I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you for joining us
as you do each and every day.
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So happy for my
co-host here, Miss Yvonne.
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Well, I'm happy to be here.
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And we have some guests
today that's not really guest,
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they're family and
they're co-workers.
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But for television sake,
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we'll say
they're our guest today.
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That means that we're gonna
be interviewing them, right?
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That's right.
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We're gonna find out
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a lot of information about them.
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But we want to thank
you first for your love
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and your prayers and
financial support of 3ABN.
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We are dedicated,
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our commission has
been to take this gospel
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of the kingdom
into all the world.
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So we've been
literally dedicating our time,
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our talents, your gifts,
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whatever you give
to 3ABN to support us
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in taking an undiluted
three angels' messages,
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one that would counteract
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the counterfeit
into all the world.
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But what I know that
people like as they like to know
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who are we supporting,
who are we working with.
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And so, while you may
know Shelley and JD Quinn
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for many years.
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This program we found out
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'cause we've done a few
of the other co-workers here.
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But we wanted to
do something personal,
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they see you preaching
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or see you on
Sabbath school programs
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and what have you.
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But sometimes
we like to get back
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and I think specially
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the women
probably more than the men,
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but they want to get
into the little details,
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how do you guys
meet and tell us,
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you know, a lot of
this personal information.
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And, so why not? Yeah.
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I think our viewers love to know
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the behind the scenes things.
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You know, so I
think it's good to,
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it's good to share that.
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You know, I just
have to tell you,
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I'm really excited
because I didn't realize,
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it's probably been ten years
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since I gave my
personal testimony,
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our testimony of
how we came to 3ABN.
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So I jotted down some
kind of, just some dates,
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the years how God developed it.
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You know that Sister White says,
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"We have nothing to
fear for the future lest
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we forget how God
has led us in the past."
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And it's just so
amazing to revisit this idea
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of how God got us here.
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Absolutely.
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And it's just that when
you put it down on paper
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and then you can see
the progression of things
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and just how God just
had His hand in everything,
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it's just amazing.
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All right.
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Well, before we go to
that we have some music today.
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And somebody that I
really enjoy her music.
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And her talents and her gifts
and wonderful Christian lady.
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I think it's
Jennifer LaMountain.
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And she's gonna be
singing, "In Your Mercy".
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In Your mercy
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You have shown me
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Your salvation
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Undeserving of your favor
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I am free
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And I'll never be the same
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All my life I will remain
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In your mercy
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Tender mercy shown
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To me
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In Your mercy
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You have promised
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To be near me
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I am resting
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In the shelter
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Of Your wings
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Every fear I leave behind
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Every confidence
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I find In Your mercy
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Tender mercy shown
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To me
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So great is Your love
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It is higher than the heavens
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Your faithfulness reaches
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The sky
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Be exalted O Lord
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Over all the earth
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Let Your glory be seen
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In my life
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In my life
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In Your mercy
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You have given
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Of Your life blood
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One last
heartbeat and redemption
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Was complete
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What a debt of love You paid
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With Your death
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My soul was saved
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In Your mercy
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Tender mercy
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Shown to me
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Amen. Beautiful.
Oh, that was lovely.
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You know, one of the things
that I feel about Jennifer
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is that she
worships when she's singing.
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And so she draws you into
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that whole experience which is,
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which is so
different from performance.
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You know, it's one
thing to perform a song,
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it's another to minister.
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Absolutely. And to
me Jennifer ministers.
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So thank you,
Jennifer. Beautiful.
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And she has for so many years.
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And just wonderful
person, wonderful Christian,
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and so we
appreciate her so much.
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Now today we have
Shelley and JD Quinn
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and so, Yvonne, you kind of...
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I'm gonna kind of let you
take some of these questions
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'cause I know you want
to get into personal thing,
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relationships and all that so.
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I do. I do.
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Well, JD and I
will probably do...
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Yeah, we'll just start.
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Let's pick a date and
what we're talking about...
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We're here anyway. Is
it, then go like that.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know,
the obvious thing to me
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is you guys have such
a wonderful relationship.
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You know,
whenever I talk to you,
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you're telling me,
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"Oh, JD and I were
praying about this."
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And it's just,
it's so beautiful.
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Have you always been a
Christian, both of you?
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Have you always been Christians?
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Go ahead. Well, we...
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I think that I grew up in a home
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that believed in Jesus Christ,
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I'm not gonna call it
a Christian home per se.
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But there was a
belief in Jesus Christ.
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I went to a New
Testament church.
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So I always loved Jesus,
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but I didn't
understand a lot of things
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because you didn't really
get into the Old Testament.
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What's a New Testament church?
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A New Testament
church is basically one
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that kind of feels
that the Old Testament
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is the old letter
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that is no longer
part or necessary.
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You know, they don't understand
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that 40% of the New Testament
comes from the Old Testament.
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Right, right, right.
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And that is the only scriptures
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that the apostles and Jesus
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when they're
talking about scripture,
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they're referring
to the Old Testament.
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Right.
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So if you don't have
that understanding of the old,
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I think the New Testament
is revealed in the Old,
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but the Old
Testament is explained
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in the New Testament.
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So without that understanding,
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I think you
kind of end up skewed
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in a certain direction.
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What about you, JD?
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Mine, I was raised an Adventist.
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In fact my grandmother,
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they were some of
the first Adventists
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who came in Central Texas.
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We have a big cemetery
outside of Central Texas
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that have all the old
pioneers in that time.
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And so, and my grandfather
like my brother and my father
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and my aunt, they both had two
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of their brother and sister
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that were buried
there, just babies, you know.
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But they started
the Adventist community.
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And there was old
place called Mage.
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And then we
settled in Central Texas,
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around Coleman, Texas.
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My grandfather loved the Lord.
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He had his ways of doing
things but he loved Jesus,
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my grandmother
was a lot quieter.
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And then my aunt,
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my brother, my father, my
aunt, my aunt was a devote.
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She was the cornerstone
of Adventism in Central Texas
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for many, many years.
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And all she prayed, she prayed.
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Like everybody named James,
you go through the Jimmy stage,
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you go through the Jim
stage and finally you grew up
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and be who you
want to be, you know.
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But she would
always call me James
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because that was, he
was a disciple James.
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And he says, you know,
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"James, the Lord loves you,
He's got His hand on your life.
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When are you gonna
turn your life around?
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James, get it together,
get it together, I mean."
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You just gave us a hint
that you were raised there
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but you didn't certainly
stayed there, you left.
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And then Florence Detamore came
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into the area, 1956.
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And my father was reconverted.
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And all of a
sudden out of nowhere,
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we then were gonna
get a Christian education,
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three of us little hungry birds,
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you know, three of us children.
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And so, then we
maintain two homes,
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we maintain one
home in Keene Texas.
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And so, yes I went
through our schools.
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And, yes, I sat on the back row.
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Yes, I did sleep
through those things.
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Back then it really wasn't
so much about relationships,
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it was about rules.
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And I don't know,
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I guess everybody has
a stubborn side to them.
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It wasn't intentional,
you know, I've probably,
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I would guess
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there's just probably
hasn't been a day in my life
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that I haven't
prayed, prayed earnestly.
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So even as the times
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that I were really wasn't
that active in the church.
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In fact I wasn't involved
in the church, for no reason,
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I don't even, I've
studied this and studied this.
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And I have no idea
how you involve in a way,
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but Satan works
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in mysterious
ways too, you know.
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And so I've always been there,
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I just didn't know
what I was there for.
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I think it's Luke 15,
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you know, the
different parables,
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and one is the lost coin.
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And we can be lost in
the house at the sermon
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that have about
being lost in the house.
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And so we can go
through the motions
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and we can think that
we are still Adventist.
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But we're lost
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because we're
not following Jesus,
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we're just
following some of the rules.
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Oh, when I first met him,
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he wasn't going to
church and I told him,
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if you, I'm not gonna date
you if you don't go to church.
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So he started
going to church with me.
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And it was a
Sunday keeping church.
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And I never knew
because when we first married,
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those first few years
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he was coming to church with me,
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I didn't know that
he felt uncomfortable
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because I didn't
know he was an Adventist.
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So you never talked about it?
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Oh, no, no 'cause
he'd been out of the church
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for a number of years.
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And I remember
one day asking him,
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what do Adventists believe.
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Well, I think I
slept through all of that.
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So we went to, it
was a school reunion.
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And this is how the devil works.
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I asked somebody
that he knew from school,
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what do Adventist believe.
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You know what answer I got,
and with this kind of force,
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we believe you must go
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to church on
Saturday, the Sabbath.
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We believe you
can't eat pork and shrimp.
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We believe in our
prophet Ellen White.
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And I said, "Oh, I
believe in the gift of prophecy.
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Does she follow the Bible?"
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You know, what he said,
"Oh, no, she's got so much
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more to say than
the Bible has to say."
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Like this, I would have nothing
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to do with Adventists.
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Oh, with that answer I can...
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But the thing
about, these are good guys.
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We just grew up in a
time you know whenever...
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It's out there.
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And I can't answer for them,
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you know, but they
are good friends of mine,
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I mean, we were
buddies, we grew up together.
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But the long and
the short of it is
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I felt Adventism was a cult.
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And so, I
remember we married in '87
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and we lived in Dallas,
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he was going to church with
me at a Sunday keeping church.
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We were going to
church, I didn't realize
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what that he was
going through this turmoil
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because it
wasn't on the Sabbath.
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And then when we
moved from Dallas to Houston
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and then we moved back
to his hometown of Coleman.
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And when we were in Coleman,
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the local Adventist
church bought the downlink.
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And you know what?
Downlink television.
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A downlink television station...
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Yeah, Trinity
Broadcasting had it.
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And so what happened
was, all of a sudden,
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now there's only two
programs on TB and that I liked.
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And that was Charles
Stanley and Jack Hayford,
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good Bible teachers.
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I didn't like the music,
00:16:02.96\00:16:04.29
I didn't like
anything else about that.
00:16:04.33\00:16:06.29
But all of a sudden
3ABN is on this network.
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And I would tell him,
"Hey, do not watch it."
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If I'd catch him, one
time he was watching Dwight.
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And I came downstairs, I
said, "You turn that off."
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Those are cults,
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those are cults,
you turn that off,
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I don't want that in my house.
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Would not watch 3ABN.
Shame on you, Shelley.
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But I was just thinking.
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And what caught my attention
00:16:32.65\00:16:34.16
was that I...
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Is there anybody
out there I knew.
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I mean, I totally missed out.
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And so...
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He was sneaking and watching it.
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Yeah, I was just trying to see
if there's anybody that I knew.
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And, of course, over
the years and everything
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so many things are going
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but didn't know anybody
that I really knew, and...
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But let me, let
me get this part in
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'cause I have to say as
I said it's been 10 years
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since I've given my testimony.
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And I actually sat down,
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I've never done this before
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'cause I thought, well I
want to remember the dates.
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And I put down the
years and how God led.
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It is so amazing
how God got us here.
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And I think you begin
to take things for granted
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when you're in a good rhythm,
you know what I'm saying.
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In 1995, I...
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Wait, wait before you,
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before you go to
how you got here,
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I'm still not, how did.
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Are you gonna,
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are you going to tell us
how you, he came back in?
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Yeah. Okay. All right, go ahead.
00:17:34.02\00:17:35.38
I'll get it
started. Let him finish it.
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But anyway, in 1995,
we were living in Houston.
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And JD sold his business
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and he went to
work with his brother.
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I mean, he went to go
help him for a couple of weeks
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and he ended up working there.
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And he called me and said,
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"Honey, we're going
to move to Coleman."
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Well, I had vertigo.
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And I mean a
bad case of vertigo.
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It was 24/7 I was
spinning like a top.
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I'd been to all the doctors
00:17:58.17\00:17:59.54
that treated the NASA astronauts
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and everything.
00:18:02.64\00:18:03.98
And the only thing
they came to the conclusion
00:18:04.01\00:18:05.75
is they would have to
clip the nerves to my ears
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and I would be deaf.
00:18:09.12\00:18:10.45
And I said, "No, I'm
not ready to go there yet."
00:18:10.49\00:18:12.75
But anyway, so I
packed up the house,
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we moved to Coleman.
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And I was ended up...
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The tornado had
just hit the farm.
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So I ended up living on
the farm with his parents.
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And to help them,
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but I thought it was
gonna be a two week stay,
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I was there year and a half
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because my mother-in-law
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was diagnosed with colon cancer.
00:18:34.21\00:18:35.98
My father-in-law was
in early Alzheimer's.
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And then we had a
15 year old niece,
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his brother's daughter
that we're also taking care of.
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And they, these guys
were traveling all the time.
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So here I've got this vertigo.
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And long, so I
can't go into that story,
00:18:48.79\00:18:51.13
it's such a fascinating story.
00:18:51.16\00:18:52.99
But God reached down to
me at eight months into this.
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And he spoke to me one day
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'cause honestly
when you're that sick,
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I wasn't praying very much,
00:19:02.00\00:19:03.41
I couldn't read,
you couldn't focus.
00:19:03.44\00:19:06.17
And it was all I could do
just to function every day
00:19:06.21\00:19:08.38
and take care of everyone.
00:19:08.41\00:19:10.05
So God impressed upon my
heart one day, My Word is...
00:19:10.08\00:19:15.45
He said, "I set
before you life and death.
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My Word is life,
do you choose life?"
00:19:17.82\00:19:19.95
And He impressed me
to get in the scriptures
00:19:19.99\00:19:22.82
and find the promises
and praying back to Him.
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I did this for two weeks.
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Healing promises, no
faith, no faith came.
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And it was like,
00:19:31.40\00:19:32.73
"Lord, do You
really tell me to do this?"
00:19:32.77\00:19:34.50
Just kind of going
through the motions.
00:19:34.54\00:19:36.94
It was just hard to
look up the scriptures.
00:19:36.97\00:19:39.24
But then the
day that I'm saying,
00:19:39.27\00:19:42.08
"Did You call me to do this?"
00:19:42.11\00:19:43.58
He led me to three
scriptures, Isaiah 55:11,
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that where he says,
00:19:47.52\00:19:48.88
"My word will not return to void
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but accomplish every
purpose for which I send it."
00:19:51.72\00:19:54.52
Jeremiah 1:12, where He says,
00:19:54.56\00:19:57.59
"You've seen correctly,
00:19:57.63\00:19:58.96
I am active and alert watching
over My Word to perform it."
00:19:58.99\00:20:02.33
And Romans 4:17, it says that,
00:20:02.36\00:20:04.60
"God is the God who
gives life to the dead
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and calls things
00:20:06.87\00:20:08.20
that are not as
though they already were."
00:20:08.24\00:20:10.27
All of a sudden faith came.
00:20:10.31\00:20:12.24
I realized by me
claiming God's promises
00:20:12.27\00:20:15.54
and praying Him back
then, speaking them over my life
00:20:15.58\00:20:18.81
that what was happening
was I was doing what God did,
00:20:18.85\00:20:23.28
calling things that were
not as though they already were.
00:20:23.32\00:20:26.12
Returning God's Word to Him
and He was going to perform it.
00:20:26.15\00:20:29.96
And four months
later, I was healed.
00:20:29.99\00:20:33.13
He healed me, I mean, and
so it was all weird though.
00:20:33.16\00:20:37.30
Then what happened is
00:20:37.33\00:20:39.63
I was so excited about
this '96 that I sat down
00:20:39.67\00:20:43.27
and I wrote this
little book called
00:20:43.30\00:20:44.67
Life
Affirmations from Scripture.
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It was just like a
chapter to introduce why
00:20:46.61\00:20:49.21
but it was mostly affirmations.
00:20:49.24\00:20:51.38
And I passed, I
printed off a couple of hundred
00:20:51.41\00:20:54.05
and I just give them
out to people, strangers.
00:20:54.08\00:20:58.09
So in '97
00:20:58.12\00:21:02.02
I was contacted by
someone in Houston,
00:21:02.06\00:21:05.13
hired as a consultant
00:21:05.16\00:21:06.49
because my
background had been in IT,
00:21:06.53\00:21:10.00
in corporate development.
00:21:10.03\00:21:13.37
And I'd had a corporate life
00:21:13.40\00:21:15.44
all those years
till we moved to Coleman.
00:21:15.47\00:21:18.94
And I was contacted,
somebody wanted me to come work
00:21:18.97\00:21:22.08
as a consultant
for a new business.
00:21:22.11\00:21:24.21
It went into a full-time job.
00:21:24.25\00:21:26.48
And when I say
full-time, I mean, full-time.
00:21:26.51\00:21:29.88
Here I spend this
year so close to the Lord.
00:21:29.92\00:21:33.49
And teaching people about,
you know, speaking His Word.
00:21:33.52\00:21:37.49
Now all of a
sudden, I'm in a job
00:21:37.53\00:21:40.50
where I am
traveling 26 to 27 days
00:21:40.53\00:21:44.27
out of the week, doing...
00:21:44.30\00:21:45.63
Month. Month.
00:21:45.67\00:21:47.27
Well, yeah, I get,
00:21:47.30\00:21:48.64
it felt like out of
the, out of the month.
00:21:48.67\00:21:50.74
And what happened was, I...
00:21:50.77\00:21:54.98
We always did these
symposiums on the weekend.
00:21:55.01\00:21:57.81
So I didn't get to go to church.
00:21:57.85\00:22:00.02
And I would wrestle with
that with God for a while.
00:22:00.05\00:22:03.52
And then I remember
one night, you know.
00:22:03.55\00:22:05.89
As though it was God's
fault, but anyway go ahead.
00:22:05.92\00:22:07.76
Yeah, it's like,
I mean, I'm saying,
00:22:07.79\00:22:10.49
"Oh, Lord, we need the money,
00:22:10.53\00:22:12.39
this is good
money, we need the money."
00:22:12.43\00:22:14.70
And it's just for a little time,
00:22:14.73\00:22:17.73
I was making...
00:22:17.77\00:22:19.10
It's amazing how we
can rationalize the things
00:22:19.13\00:22:21.34
we want to do.
00:22:21.37\00:22:23.07
You know, we can
make it seem as though.
00:22:23.10\00:22:25.54
Well, God you
know, you know my heart.
00:22:25.57\00:22:27.48
Yes, exactly. This
is a gift from you.
00:22:27.51\00:22:30.78
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:30.81\00:22:32.55
'Cause we thought
it was a gift from Him.
00:22:32.58\00:22:34.38
But in '99 this
company went kaputs,
00:22:34.42\00:22:37.82
I mean, they had a
trajectory they came out of,
00:22:37.85\00:22:40.36
we had a great
marketing campaign,
00:22:40.39\00:22:43.99
came out of the gate
just went straight up
00:22:44.03\00:22:47.43
but they made several
million in their first year
00:22:47.46\00:22:50.90
but they spent a million more.
00:22:50.93\00:22:53.74
And the same
thing the second year,
00:22:53.77\00:22:55.10
so they weren't watching things.
00:22:55.14\00:22:57.37
And they went kaput
00:22:57.41\00:22:58.74
and we've been working
with CPA's in this company.
00:22:58.77\00:23:02.08
Well, all of a sudden
we've got about 100 CPA's
00:23:02.11\00:23:06.41
around the United States
00:23:06.45\00:23:09.45
who are saying if you
will do the same business
00:23:09.48\00:23:12.95
development seminar that
you did for this company,
00:23:12.99\00:23:15.82
for our clients,
00:23:15.86\00:23:17.19
we'll guarantee you
that will have 100 clients.
00:23:17.23\00:23:21.13
I mean, if you contract to
come to our city 100 clients
00:23:21.16\00:23:24.70
you can charge them
$1,000 for two days seminar.
00:23:24.73\00:23:29.74
What's a hundred
times a thousand?
00:23:29.77\00:23:31.34
100,000.
00:23:31.37\00:23:32.71
You know, by the time
you took out everything else,
00:23:32.74\00:23:34.31
we were still looking
00:23:34.34\00:23:35.68
at maybe making
50,000 a weekend.
00:23:35.71\00:23:39.48
And we had them
lined up everywhere.
00:23:39.51\00:23:41.95
So he's working
in the panhandle.
00:23:41.98\00:23:45.19
And I am, I mean
we had incorporated,
00:23:45.22\00:23:48.62
we had bought a
full wall sized screen.
00:23:48.66\00:23:52.09
I'm working on
00:23:52.13\00:23:53.46
all of these
business development seminars.
00:23:53.50\00:23:55.96
And back then it was
all PowerPoint type stuff,
00:23:56.00\00:23:58.13
we didn't have the other.
00:23:58.17\00:24:00.00
And I am feeling lost and lonely
00:24:00.04\00:24:03.00
and needing to
get closer to God.
00:24:03.04\00:24:05.34
So I'm praying and I ask God,
00:24:05.37\00:24:07.34
you know, how is it
that I can be so close to you
00:24:07.38\00:24:09.58
that I feel Your heart breathe
00:24:09.61\00:24:11.21
and end up in this
backslidden condition.
00:24:11.25\00:24:13.85
Well, it's easy, if
you're not going to church
00:24:13.88\00:24:15.62
and you're not, you know.
00:24:15.65\00:24:17.82
And so God taught me
00:24:17.85\00:24:21.56
how to press into
His presence in prayer.
00:24:21.59\00:24:25.09
And He taught
me to seek His face
00:24:25.13\00:24:27.83
and listen for
the still small voice.
00:24:27.86\00:24:30.77
And now all of a sudden,
00:24:30.80\00:24:33.17
he's traveling and
I'm calling him and say,
00:24:33.20\00:24:36.47
"Oh, God told
me, blah, blah, blah.
00:24:36.50\00:24:38.51
God said this, God."
00:24:38.54\00:24:40.18
And one day he said to me,
00:24:40.21\00:24:42.34
"Honey, please
don't tell anybody else
00:24:42.38\00:24:45.08
you think that
God's talking to you
00:24:45.11\00:24:46.82
because they're
gonna think you're crazy."
00:24:46.85\00:24:49.88
And he said, "Why
don't I hear from God."
00:24:49.92\00:24:53.39
You know what I
asked him? Do you listen?
00:24:53.42\00:24:56.99
'Cause he prayed all the time.
00:24:57.03\00:24:58.69
Do you remember the first time
00:24:58.73\00:25:00.06
you listened
what God said to you
00:25:00.10\00:25:01.43
about the potter and the...
00:25:01.46\00:25:02.80
Tell them that
story 'cause this was...
00:25:02.83\00:25:04.17
Well, what was
important in my life
00:25:04.20\00:25:05.80
'cause I was wandering
00:25:05.83\00:25:07.34
and Shelley was
always a spiritual leader.
00:25:07.37\00:25:09.84
That's one thing
that attracted me to her.
00:25:09.87\00:25:11.97
And we really
weren't church going people.
00:25:12.01\00:25:15.31
But I knew that
there was something special
00:25:15.34\00:25:17.35
about Shelley
because she loved Jesus.
00:25:17.38\00:25:19.78
And I had evolved
so far from Jesus.
00:25:19.81\00:25:23.62
And if you're a...
00:25:23.65\00:25:27.49
Boy, this is
getting really naked now.
00:25:27.52\00:25:29.92
But if you were
raised an Adventist,
00:25:29.96\00:25:31.83
you always wonder
00:25:31.86\00:25:33.19
what's on the other
side of the mountain
00:25:33.23\00:25:34.93
because that's
where everybody is.
00:25:34.96\00:25:37.07
And so some place deep within me
00:25:37.10\00:25:39.73
and I played sports everywhere,
I was gifted as an athlete.
00:25:39.77\00:25:42.74
So I had to battle all
this stuff all the time,
00:25:42.77\00:25:45.24
juggling all these balls.
00:25:45.27\00:25:46.81
But then I met Shelley
and it was very important,
00:25:46.84\00:25:49.58
it's kind of like,
00:25:49.61\00:25:50.95
I'm JD Quinn, I'm Shelley Quinn,
00:25:50.98\00:25:52.31
if you don't go to
church, I'm not interested.
00:25:52.35\00:25:54.65
So that kind of put things
in perspective real, real,
00:25:54.68\00:25:57.55
real quick and you
had to make a decision.
00:25:57.59\00:26:00.36
Are you worth
going to church for?
00:26:00.39\00:26:03.02
And so, you know I
made a quick decision
00:26:03.06\00:26:06.16
but I think so because really
that's what I'm starving for
00:26:06.19\00:26:10.23
and I pray daily.
00:26:10.27\00:26:12.03
What did I pray
for? I have no idea.
00:26:12.07\00:26:14.40
I just knew that
there's roadblocks
00:26:14.44\00:26:17.77
all day long in
all of our lives,
00:26:17.81\00:26:19.47
and I just prayed.
00:26:19.51\00:26:20.84
And I know that He heard me,
00:26:20.88\00:26:22.68
but I'm still
trying to figure out
00:26:22.71\00:26:24.91
what's going on here.
00:26:24.95\00:26:26.28
So it became evident
00:26:26.31\00:26:27.65
that Shelley became my
hero and our spiritual leader.
00:26:27.68\00:26:31.72
Don't ever think
in any of your home
00:26:31.75\00:26:34.02
that the wife can't
be the spiritual leader.
00:26:34.06\00:26:36.46
That's all it's keeping
a lot of families together
00:26:36.49\00:26:38.63
is the wife is
the spiritual leader.
00:26:38.66\00:26:41.10
Shelly was the
spiritual leader of our church.
00:26:41.13\00:26:45.27
Then I hung on our home.
00:26:45.30\00:26:47.54
And I hung just on every word
00:26:47.57\00:26:49.64
but I've got to
do my own thing too.
00:26:49.67\00:26:52.07
So it's all very complicated.
00:26:52.11\00:26:54.74
But I wanted
00:26:54.78\00:26:57.28
what Shelly had probably
00:26:57.31\00:27:00.78
without paying my dues.
00:27:00.82\00:27:03.12
Boy, that's easy to do.
00:27:03.15\00:27:04.92
I want it, you got it,
00:27:04.95\00:27:06.29
hey, why are you
so much better than me
00:27:06.32\00:27:08.52
and He listens to you,
but He doesn't hear me.
00:27:08.56\00:27:10.83
I mean, you're
just juggling balls
00:27:10.86\00:27:12.49
all the time
00:27:12.53\00:27:13.86
but she had a relationship,
I could spell relationship
00:27:13.90\00:27:18.90
but I didn't know
whether I wanted to commit
00:27:18.93\00:27:21.20
because I think down deep inside
00:27:21.24\00:27:24.17
I was a commitment forbid
00:27:24.21\00:27:25.84
not just with relationships
but in life itself.
00:27:25.87\00:27:29.84
So you had to
break through that.
00:27:29.88\00:27:33.15
And so we did go to
church all the time.
00:27:33.18\00:27:37.99
And, oh, but wait a minute here,
00:27:38.02\00:27:42.02
even as I was sleeping in class,
00:27:42.06\00:27:45.76
Jim Gilley was in our...
00:27:45.79\00:27:47.13
And he was
couple of years older.
00:27:47.16\00:27:49.06
I mean he became pastor,
00:27:49.10\00:27:52.07
was he paying
attention I wasn't.
00:27:52.10\00:27:54.50
I mean, do you
see what I'm saying.
00:27:54.54\00:27:56.30
I mean, it's just kind of like,
it's not making sense here.
00:27:56.34\00:28:00.01
And so, anyway as I am listening
00:28:00.04\00:28:04.41
and I keep asking Shelley,
00:28:04.45\00:28:06.45
"How do I get that?"
00:28:06.48\00:28:10.42
And bless her heart,
she was just as straight
00:28:10.45\00:28:12.39
because we would
be driving places,
00:28:12.42\00:28:14.16
never think
she's gonna minister,
00:28:14.19\00:28:16.09
I'm going to carry
luggage, I'm not involved,
00:28:16.12\00:28:18.33
you know, I want to be involved.
00:28:18.36\00:28:20.33
But yet I know
that I'm not qualified.
00:28:20.36\00:28:23.63
But you had to surrender, honey.
00:28:23.67\00:28:26.57
But you just jumped
ahead just a little bit,
00:28:26.60\00:28:28.90
let me back up
00:28:28.94\00:28:30.27
because before we
started ministering
00:28:30.31\00:28:31.77
what happened is,
00:28:31.81\00:28:33.51
here we've got this
whole corporation set up.
00:28:33.54\00:28:36.85
And we're looking
at big bucks, right?
00:28:36.88\00:28:39.38
Yeah.
00:28:39.41\00:28:40.75
And I am though just
empty inside, seeking God.
00:28:40.78\00:28:46.49
And He taught me
00:28:46.52\00:28:48.72
how to present to His presence
or really seek His face.
00:28:48.76\00:28:52.29
But He taught me to listen
for the still small voice.
00:28:52.33\00:28:55.06
You know where God impresses
His thoughts upon your mind.
00:28:55.10\00:28:58.23
And by the way,
00:28:58.27\00:28:59.60
some people have
criticized me for saying that.
00:28:59.63\00:29:01.17
And Sister
White says it is well,
00:29:01.20\00:29:03.47
you know, but here's the point.
00:29:03.51\00:29:05.81
As I am now pressing
into the presence of the Lord,
00:29:05.84\00:29:09.21
it was hardly any time at
all, just within a few weeks.
00:29:09.24\00:29:13.42
I knew God was calling
me to full-time ministry.
00:29:13.45\00:29:16.52
And so he's still
working with his brother.
00:29:16.55\00:29:19.15
And it was in
the year it was '99
00:29:19.19\00:29:23.79
'cause we were
trying to get ready for Y2K.
00:29:23.83\00:29:28.23
And it was in December
and I went to visit him
00:29:28.26\00:29:31.97
the last couple of
days of December up there
00:29:32.00\00:29:34.50
where they were working.
00:29:34.54\00:29:36.07
And I just remember this,
00:29:36.10\00:29:39.74
we had to stay
at a little motel,
00:29:39.77\00:29:41.81
it was an inn run
by some Indians very...
00:29:41.84\00:29:44.61
I mean, it's the
only thing we could find.
00:29:44.65\00:29:46.51
And it was so funny
00:29:46.55\00:29:47.88
because it was just
a dinky little hotel,
00:29:47.92\00:29:53.25
had a TV up on the wall,
00:29:53.29\00:29:56.09
no remote control
00:29:56.12\00:29:57.49
or he's got the
attention of a hummingbird,
00:29:57.53\00:30:00.00
the attention
span of a hummingbird
00:30:00.03\00:30:01.36
when it comes to TV.
00:30:01.40\00:30:02.93
So here I'm thinking,
I'm all prepared for Y2K.
00:30:02.96\00:30:06.00
And we'd lay down on the
bed, be watching, he say,
00:30:06.03\00:30:08.10
"Well, honey,
change the channel,
00:30:08.14\00:30:09.47
I'm jumping to change it."
00:30:09.50\00:30:10.84
"Honey, change the channel."
00:30:10.87\00:30:12.21
So I was up and down
about 15 times in 30 minutes.
00:30:12.24\00:30:15.11
And I looked at him and I said,
00:30:15.14\00:30:17.01
"I'm not ready for Y2K
00:30:17.05\00:30:18.71
'cause I can't even
stand being without a remote."
00:30:18.75\00:30:21.58
But anyway...
00:30:21.62\00:30:22.95
But we had plenty of water
00:30:22.98\00:30:24.32
and plenty of everything
stacked up like everybody else
00:30:24.35\00:30:26.76
which you know
just in case like this.
00:30:26.79\00:30:28.46
So what happened
was when I was praying
00:30:28.49\00:30:32.79
and God was impressing me,
00:30:32.83\00:30:34.16
He was calling me
into full-time ministry.
00:30:34.20\00:30:37.27
He made it clear to me,
it had to be His decision.
00:30:37.30\00:30:40.94
That it had to be JD's decision.
00:30:40.97\00:30:43.71
I didn't think that
there was any way possible JD
00:30:43.74\00:30:46.21
was gonna let go
of this new business.
00:30:46.24\00:30:48.84
I really didn't.
'Cause you had just started.
00:30:48.88\00:30:51.85
We were just getting
ready to kick it off,
00:30:51.88\00:30:54.05
it was getting ready
to launch in January.
00:30:54.08\00:30:56.89
And we had
sacrificed a lot to get
00:30:56.92\00:30:59.02
to that
particular point, you know.
00:30:59.05\00:31:01.46
And all we could
talk about was that.
00:31:01.49\00:31:05.39
Yeah. That, that, you know.
00:31:05.43\00:31:07.36
Had nothing
about going to church,
00:31:07.40\00:31:08.73
I mean, we're
still going to church
00:31:08.76\00:31:10.10
every Sunday and
everything, you know.
00:31:10.13\00:31:11.47
I mean, being
good little Christians.
00:31:11.50\00:31:13.47
And, but still
we're focusing on that.
00:31:13.50\00:31:17.34
And so, then I began to sense
00:31:17.37\00:31:20.14
that we didn't talk
about that 24 hours a day.
00:31:20.18\00:31:24.48
We talked about that
maybe 12 hours a day.
00:31:24.51\00:31:27.05
I mean, I'm exaggerating but...
00:31:27.08\00:31:28.98
So something was happening
00:31:29.02\00:31:31.15
but I was maintaining my posture
00:31:31.19\00:31:33.62
'cause we were
really looking forward
00:31:33.66\00:31:35.36
to this new chapter in our life.
00:31:35.39\00:31:39.33
Yeah, it was December 31
00:31:39.36\00:31:42.23
and we were going down the road.
00:31:42.26\00:31:44.37
And this was 1999.
00:31:44.40\00:31:46.63
And he says to me,
00:31:46.67\00:31:48.94
"Honey, what's wrong with you?"
00:31:48.97\00:31:51.91
And I kind of answered
00:31:51.94\00:31:53.27
in that little
singsong way and I said, "Oh..."
00:31:53.31\00:31:56.28
He said, "You don't
seem as interested in this."
00:31:56.31\00:31:58.35
And I said,
00:31:58.38\00:31:59.71
"Oh, I'm still
interested, you know kind of."
00:31:59.75\00:32:01.98
And he said,
00:32:02.02\00:32:03.35
"Shelley, if you could be
doing anything in the world,
00:32:03.39\00:32:07.36
what would you
want to be doing?"
00:32:07.39\00:32:09.06
And I said, "I
wouldn't be out teaching people
00:32:09.09\00:32:10.86
how to be
successful in business.
00:32:10.89\00:32:12.39
I'd be out teaching them
00:32:12.43\00:32:13.76
how to have a
closer relationship
00:32:13.80\00:32:15.13
with the Lord."
00:32:15.16\00:32:16.50
And you know God had,
00:32:16.53\00:32:19.30
when God, I knew
God was calling me.
00:32:19.33\00:32:21.64
And he said it had
to be his decision.
00:32:21.67\00:32:23.41
I had asked for a sign.
00:32:23.44\00:32:25.11
So what happened
was I'm thinking,
00:32:25.14\00:32:27.81
well, God's opening the door.
00:32:27.84\00:32:29.21
And I'm kind of taking it
from an indirect approach.
00:32:29.24\00:32:33.42
And I said, "Honey,
maybe it doesn't mean
00:32:33.45\00:32:35.28
that we have to do away."
00:32:35.32\00:32:37.02
I said, "When He said full-time,
00:32:37.05\00:32:38.59
maybe it's not full-time now.
00:32:38.62\00:32:39.95
Maybe we can do our seminars.
00:32:39.99\00:32:41.42
And then, you know,
00:32:41.46\00:32:42.79
that will actually
support the ministry."
00:32:42.82\00:32:44.79
He looks at me as
we're going down the road,
00:32:44.83\00:32:46.73
he said, "You do
know what God is asking."
00:32:46.76\00:32:50.13
Because he had heard from God,
00:32:50.17\00:32:51.50
well, I have to
get back to that story.
00:32:51.53\00:32:53.03
But he said, "You do
know what God is asking."
00:32:53.07\00:32:55.37
And I said, "Yeah, I
feel like it's full-time now."
00:32:55.40\00:32:57.81
Never in a million
years did I think he,
00:32:57.84\00:33:00.51
'cause, you know he'd say,
"I thought he was gonna say,
00:33:00.54\00:33:02.81
'We just spent all of this money
00:33:02.84\00:33:04.48
and all this time
putting all of us together.'"
00:33:04.51\00:33:06.85
You know what he said?
00:33:06.88\00:33:08.25
"Who am I to
argue with God?" Okay.
00:33:08.28\00:33:11.32
So I told him then,
00:33:11.35\00:33:12.69
I said and I asked
for sign and God said,
00:33:12.72\00:33:15.42
"This time I'll give you one."
00:33:15.46\00:33:17.06
So He says,
00:33:17.09\00:33:18.43
"That's the problem
with you, Christians."
00:33:18.46\00:33:19.86
It's not that he
wasn't one that he said,
00:33:19.89\00:33:21.76
"That's the problem
with you, Christians,
00:33:21.80\00:33:23.30
you are always
asking for a sign."
00:33:23.33\00:33:25.43
He said, what's gonna happen
if God doesn't give you a sign.
00:33:25.47\00:33:29.34
I thought, well, so let me just,
00:33:29.37\00:33:31.34
I want to take you
00:33:31.37\00:33:32.71
'cause our time
is going so fast.
00:33:32.74\00:33:34.08
Let me just take
you through a few things
00:33:34.11\00:33:35.51
and then you can jump in too.
00:33:35.54\00:33:37.58
So what happened the next
day I drove, it was January 1.
00:33:37.61\00:33:40.72
I drove back home,
that was on a Saturday.
00:33:40.75\00:33:43.62
On Sunday I spent a
couple of hours praying
00:33:43.65\00:33:46.39
and the phone rings.
00:33:46.42\00:33:47.76
And it was a
Christian Broadcasting Network
00:33:47.79\00:33:50.19
asking me to come
meet, they had gotten
00:33:50.23\00:33:52.86
one of those little copies
of the book I had put out.
00:33:52.89\00:33:55.40
You talk about a sign,
00:33:55.43\00:33:56.80
God didn't waste any
time that was 24 hours later.
00:33:56.83\00:34:01.30
I went and then
they ended up inviting me
00:34:01.34\00:34:04.57
again and again.
00:34:04.61\00:34:05.94
They offered me, I was
there for eight months.
00:34:05.97\00:34:07.94
They offered me my own program.
00:34:07.98\00:34:10.78
And we were almost
finished taping this program
00:34:10.81\00:34:13.98
and it was going to
be on Exalting His Word.
00:34:14.02\00:34:17.92
You know what happened.
00:34:17.95\00:34:21.42
Someone called
me into the office,
00:34:21.46\00:34:22.89
they wanted me to
sign an agreement.
00:34:22.92\00:34:25.96
And this agreement was
giving them all copyright
00:34:25.99\00:34:29.16
to everything.
00:34:29.20\00:34:30.63
And I said, "Well,
I'll give you copyright
00:34:30.67\00:34:33.00
to your broadcast."
00:34:33.03\00:34:34.37
I said, "I'm not trying to..."
00:34:34.40\00:34:35.74
But I said, "I don't want
00:34:35.77\00:34:37.11
to give you
copyright to the book or copy
00:34:37.14\00:34:38.57
'cause then I
couldn't do it anywhere else."
00:34:38.61\00:34:41.41
Long story short, we
ended up parting ways,
00:34:41.44\00:34:44.15
it was very painful after being
00:34:44.18\00:34:46.41
on the network for eight months,
00:34:46.45\00:34:47.78
it was very painful.
00:34:47.82\00:34:50.05
So now I come back
00:34:50.09\00:34:52.72
and I'm doing,
God just opened up,
00:34:52.75\00:34:55.19
I was doing Bible studies,
00:34:55.22\00:34:57.19
weekly Bible studies
in five different cities.
00:34:57.23\00:34:59.49
So Monday night I'd be here,
Tuesday night I'd be there,
00:34:59.53\00:35:01.83
Wednesday night...
00:35:01.86\00:35:03.20
God is teaching me,
Danny, 'cause JD said to me,
00:35:03.23\00:35:06.63
I mean, I asked the Lord.
00:35:06.67\00:35:08.47
I said, "Father, what
do You want me to teach?
00:35:08.50\00:35:11.27
I don't want to go
out and teach what You...
00:35:11.31\00:35:13.44
What I think is important.
00:35:13.48\00:35:14.81
Show me.
00:35:14.84\00:35:16.18
And JD said to me one day,
00:35:16.21\00:35:18.35
"What are you gonna tell
my friends about the Sabbath?"
00:35:18.38\00:35:22.68
Out of nowhere because I mean,
00:35:22.72\00:35:25.25
we had been married
I don't know how long.
00:35:25.29\00:35:27.06
Yep. Ten years, twelve years.
00:35:27.09\00:35:28.86
Probably Sabbath
has never come up.
00:35:28.89\00:35:30.23
Or it may be longer
than that, about 20...
00:35:30.26\00:35:31.59
Never...
00:35:31.63\00:35:32.96
You never told
about the Sabbath.
00:35:32.99\00:35:34.33
Never. Never ever.
00:35:34.36\00:35:35.70
She's the spiritual leader.
00:35:35.73\00:35:37.07
Shelley knows the
Bible backward and forward.
00:35:37.10\00:35:39.50
I knew where Genesis was.
00:35:39.53\00:35:43.04
I mean, I'm exaggerating,
but you know what I'm saying,
00:35:43.07\00:35:45.51
she's the spiritual leader.
00:35:45.54\00:35:47.54
And I mean, and
she normally was right.
00:35:47.58\00:35:50.61
So what made you
say that this day?
00:35:50.65\00:35:52.95
Purely Holy
Spirit, out of nowhere.
00:35:52.98\00:35:56.15
How are you gonna
handle the Sabbath issue?
00:35:56.18\00:35:58.79
And Shelley, I mean,
just bless her heart.
00:35:58.82\00:36:01.26
She left there, I'd
be back in five minutes.
00:36:01.29\00:36:04.36
So guess what happens.
00:36:04.39\00:36:06.80
God started me on
study of the sanctuary
00:36:06.83\00:36:11.43
is where He had started me.
00:36:11.47\00:36:13.44
And then, when
I got to the point
00:36:13.47\00:36:15.50
where I realized
that the book of the law
00:36:15.54\00:36:18.71
which is out of Deuteronomy,
00:36:18.74\00:36:20.14
it's the old
covenant was placed on the,
00:36:20.18\00:36:23.85
in a side pocket at the ark.
00:36:23.88\00:36:26.51
But God's Ten Commandments
were placed inside the ark,
00:36:26.55\00:36:30.19
written on the stone.
00:36:30.22\00:36:32.02
Man, that jumped
off the page at me.
00:36:32.05\00:36:34.69
And I did a really deep
study on the old covenant
00:36:34.72\00:36:36.83
and the new covenant.
00:36:36.86\00:36:38.19
I learned that
the Ten Commandments
00:36:38.23\00:36:40.30
were still effective
00:36:40.33\00:36:43.60
and I came down to him one day,
00:36:43.63\00:36:45.77
he was home
00:36:45.80\00:36:47.14
'cause all this
time he's traveling.
00:36:47.17\00:36:48.74
And I praise God
00:36:48.77\00:36:50.11
because I had all
this time to study
00:36:50.14\00:36:51.71
but I told him, I said,
00:36:51.74\00:36:53.07
"Honey, I've been woefully wrong
00:36:53.11\00:36:55.11
about the Sabbath, woefully.
00:36:55.14\00:36:57.68
Well, it's
interesting he brought it up
00:36:57.71\00:37:00.58
but he wasn't ready yet,
00:37:00.62\00:37:01.95
I started celebrating
the Sabbath right away
00:37:01.98\00:37:04.65
not going to a
church but he was kind of,
00:37:04.69\00:37:07.32
he wanted to
watch a sports and...
00:37:07.36\00:37:09.46
You know. JD.
00:37:09.49\00:37:10.83
But let, I mean, to this day
00:37:10.86\00:37:13.43
I could cry like
a baby right now.
00:37:13.46\00:37:15.43
Okay.
00:37:15.46\00:37:16.80
Because let's put
this in true perspective.
00:37:16.83\00:37:21.44
My people have been
Adventists all their life,
00:37:21.47\00:37:25.84
that doesn't
mean, that just means
00:37:25.87\00:37:27.84
they had a label of
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:37:27.88\00:37:30.98
There were some very dedicated,
00:37:31.01\00:37:33.15
there were some
that were lukewarm.
00:37:33.18\00:37:35.02
And your mother
became a Methodist again
00:37:35.05\00:37:36.75
or started attending them.
00:37:36.79\00:37:38.12
And so here Shelley
comes down. And we...
00:37:38.15\00:37:42.22
Second floor she came down
from the office and she says,
00:37:42.26\00:37:44.63
"Well, have I've been wrong."
00:37:44.66\00:37:46.56
Now this is
spiritual leader talking.
00:37:46.59\00:37:49.83
And I'm... And what do you mean.
00:37:49.86\00:37:51.63
She says, "The Sabbath
00:37:51.67\00:37:54.27
is the seventh day of the week."
00:37:54.30\00:37:59.91
Wow.
00:37:59.94\00:38:01.58
What an aha-aha
moment in my life
00:38:01.61\00:38:03.98
because then all of a
sudden the spiritual leader
00:38:04.01\00:38:08.08
of our family
came down and told me
00:38:08.12\00:38:12.39
what I should have
known generations ago.
00:38:12.42\00:38:15.19
Okay. Totally missed it.
00:38:15.22\00:38:18.56
And it was kind of
like, wow, and I remember,
00:38:18.59\00:38:23.26
I was sitting in
my lazy boy chair
00:38:23.30\00:38:26.17
and just inside my heart was,
00:38:26.20\00:38:29.17
I didn't know whether to jump up
00:38:29.20\00:38:30.84
and say hurray or just cry.
00:38:30.87\00:38:35.24
Because then all of
a sudden you fool you.
00:38:35.28\00:38:40.42
Now number one, I'm
given her too much credit.
00:38:40.45\00:38:43.69
Myself not enough credit
'cause if I wasn't a fool,
00:38:43.72\00:38:47.46
I'd be studying myself.
00:38:47.49\00:38:49.79
But that really
is not who I was...
00:38:49.82\00:38:52.43
At that time.
00:38:52.46\00:38:53.80
At that time. All right.
00:38:53.83\00:38:55.16
So let me, 'cause
our time is running out.
00:38:55.20\00:38:56.90
This gets really good.
00:38:56.93\00:38:58.50
How did, I don't
know with the story,
00:38:58.53\00:39:02.07
had you let go of the corporate?
00:39:02.10\00:39:04.04
Yes.
00:39:04.07\00:39:05.41
Yes, I'm in full-time ministry
00:39:05.44\00:39:06.78
and it was really
hurting our budget.
00:39:06.81\00:39:11.18
It really was
hurting our budget.
00:39:11.21\00:39:13.15
So here I am,
00:39:13.18\00:39:14.52
this is still the year
2000 in full-time ministry.
00:39:14.55\00:39:17.69
And all of a sudden
one day as I'm praying,
00:39:17.72\00:39:19.99
guess what the
Lord impresses upon me.
00:39:20.02\00:39:22.92
I will join you to
one who is following,
00:39:22.96\00:39:28.00
running fast after me.
00:39:28.03\00:39:30.30
And you and JD will
work shoulder to shoulder,
00:39:30.33\00:39:33.77
I wasn't the least
bit excited about that.
00:39:33.80\00:39:37.97
I remember
sitting there and saying,
00:39:38.01\00:39:39.47
"Lord, I thought you
called me to full-time ministry.
00:39:39.51\00:39:41.41
You're gonna join me to
somebody else's ministry?"
00:39:41.44\00:39:44.68
It took me a little
while and I thought, okay,
00:39:44.71\00:39:46.98
if this is what the Lord
says it's gonna be what's best.
00:39:47.02\00:39:50.49
We're now in 2001.
00:39:50.52\00:39:54.22
In March, He impressed upon me,
00:39:54.26\00:39:57.53
He was gonna open
the doors for television,
00:39:57.56\00:40:00.20
radio and publishing
00:40:00.23\00:40:01.56
and I would speak
into all the world.
00:40:01.60\00:40:03.77
Now that's 2001.
00:40:03.80\00:40:05.93
Then in
September, I was out teaching
00:40:05.97\00:40:09.50
at these five
little different church,
00:40:09.54\00:40:12.47
the home churches is
what they called them.
00:40:12.51\00:40:14.41
Had you become an
Adventist by this time?
00:40:14.44\00:40:15.78
Oh, no.
00:40:15.81\00:40:17.15
No, no, no, I'm a
Sabbath celebrator though.
00:40:17.18\00:40:18.71
Sabbath keeper. Okay.
00:40:18.75\00:40:20.08
No, I'm still
thinking Adventist are a cult.
00:40:20.12\00:40:23.02
She's thinking and
she is the only one
00:40:23.05\00:40:24.72
who keeps Saturday.
00:40:24.75\00:40:26.19
She is, I mean, she is...
00:40:26.22\00:40:27.56
Well, no, and God
was teaching me the truth
00:40:27.59\00:40:29.39
about the state of the dead,
00:40:29.42\00:40:30.76
He was teaching me
the truth about hell.
00:40:30.79\00:40:32.86
And all of these
things just one on one.
00:40:32.89\00:40:35.56
And I do think
00:40:35.60\00:40:36.93
that why doesn't
anybody teach this stuff.
00:40:36.97\00:40:39.37
So here I am, in September
00:40:39.40\00:40:42.94
I was teaching,
00:40:42.97\00:40:45.74
I had been doing
a teaching on grace,
00:40:45.77\00:40:47.64
that even obedience was by grace
00:40:47.68\00:40:50.01
because it's God
who works in us to will
00:40:50.05\00:40:51.68
and to do His good pleasure.
00:40:51.71\00:40:53.42
I came home, this
is September of 2001,
00:40:53.45\00:40:57.12
I'm flipping
through the channels,
00:40:57.15\00:40:58.49
he's out of town,
00:40:58.52\00:40:59.85
it was like 11:30
at night by the time
00:40:59.89\00:41:01.22
I'd finished that and visited
with everybody and come back.
00:41:01.26\00:41:04.53
I am flipping
through the channels
00:41:04.56\00:41:06.26
and just as it hits
3ABN, Kenneth Cox says,
00:41:06.29\00:41:11.60
"I don't know what
everybody's problem
00:41:11.63\00:41:13.13
is with obedience,
it's all by faith anyway."
00:41:13.17\00:41:17.77
And it was just, I thought,
00:41:17.81\00:41:19.14
"Well, that sounds
like I'm teaching obedience
00:41:19.17\00:41:21.34
by grace through faith."
00:41:21.38\00:41:22.71
So I listened, the next
day I tuned in on purpose.
00:41:22.74\00:41:26.31
And here I had asked his
friend that was so misguided,
00:41:26.35\00:41:30.32
"What do Adventists feel
about righteousness by faith?"
00:41:30.35\00:41:32.55
And this guy was
like, "What do you mean?"
00:41:32.59\00:41:35.02
And so, I tuned
in and this preacher
00:41:35.06\00:41:38.39
I think it was
probably Doug, he used a lot of,
00:41:38.43\00:41:41.16
you know, he was talking
about righteousness by faith.
00:41:41.20\00:41:45.43
And you know what I thought,
00:41:45.47\00:41:46.90
well, it must be not
everybody on there is Adventist.
00:41:46.94\00:41:51.41
You know like TV and it
has all these different ones.
00:41:51.44\00:41:54.18
So now I start watching 3ABN.
00:41:54.21\00:41:57.91
And you know
what I'm finding out.
00:41:57.95\00:41:59.61
Everything that God teaches me
00:41:59.65\00:42:01.62
is being taught on this network.
00:42:01.65\00:42:04.22
The one thing though
that I was begging God for.
00:42:04.25\00:42:08.46
See I grew up, in
the church I grew up,
00:42:08.49\00:42:10.39
you couldn't read
Revelation, it was prohibited.
00:42:10.43\00:42:13.53
You know and I think,
I've read and that says,
00:42:13.56\00:42:15.53
it says, "Blessed if
you are if you read it."
00:42:15.56\00:42:17.50
So I'm reading this.
00:42:17.53\00:42:19.30
I am begging God to
explain Revelation to me.
00:42:19.33\00:42:23.17
How do you figure
out all of these symbols?
00:42:23.20\00:42:25.67
And I had every book
there was on prophecy.
00:42:25.71\00:42:28.68
I mean, you name the
author, I had the books.
00:42:28.71\00:42:31.18
Nobody agreed, all
these Sunday keeping people,
00:42:31.21\00:42:34.02
nobody agreed.
00:42:34.05\00:42:35.82
So I flipped it on
and it was Steve Wohlberg
00:42:35.85\00:42:39.62
was doing the
Antichrist Chronicles.
00:42:39.65\00:42:42.69
And all of a
sudden I realized, okay,
00:42:42.72\00:42:46.16
it's Daniel is the key to unlock
00:42:46.19\00:42:49.20
and everything
from the Old Testament
00:42:49.23\00:42:50.57
is what unlocks Revelation.
00:42:50.60\00:42:52.60
So now I am really excited
00:42:52.63\00:42:54.70
'cause I'm finding
out there's a church
00:42:54.74\00:42:56.50
that believes what I
believe, what God's teaching me.
00:42:56.54\00:42:59.57
But also they've got
the truth on the Sabbath.
00:42:59.61\00:43:01.88
So what did I do?
00:43:01.91\00:43:03.24
I drain my measly little
$700 out of my ministry account.
00:43:03.28\00:43:07.25
Send it to 3ABN
with a letter saying,
00:43:07.28\00:43:10.62
"Pray for me.
00:43:10.65\00:43:11.99
I think the Lord
may be leading me
00:43:12.02\00:43:13.39
to join the
Seventh-day Adventist church."
00:43:13.42\00:43:15.66
They published the letter,
00:43:15.69\00:43:17.43
you know, how you
do the big letters.
00:43:17.46\00:43:19.59
The local Adventist pastor,
00:43:19.63\00:43:21.53
well, he was 30
miles away in Brownwood.
00:43:21.56\00:43:23.73
The Adventist
pastor calls 3ABN and says,
00:43:23.77\00:43:27.77
"Hey, I need to get
00:43:27.80\00:43:29.14
this lady's contact information.
00:43:29.17\00:43:30.97
Well, you have a
pretty strict privacy policy.
00:43:31.01\00:43:33.78
He had to, he said he had
00:43:33.81\00:43:35.14
to fax his pastoral credentials,
00:43:35.18\00:43:36.88
he had to prove
who he was and say,
00:43:36.91\00:43:38.85
"Hey, she's saying
she wants to join."
00:43:38.88\00:43:41.52
So the long and the short of it,
00:43:41.55\00:43:42.88
he comes to visit me.
00:43:42.92\00:43:44.55
And when he does,
00:43:44.59\00:43:45.92
I'm
interviewing him to make sure
00:43:45.95\00:43:47.42
he talks like
you all talk, right?
00:43:47.46\00:43:50.33
And I found him,
00:43:50.36\00:43:51.69
his name was Jim,
Pastor Jim Graves,
00:43:51.73\00:43:53.23
very godly man.
00:43:53.26\00:43:54.60
So what happened
then is that I began going
00:43:54.63\00:43:58.63
to church regularly in December.
00:43:58.67\00:44:01.47
And Pastor Graves says,
00:44:01.50\00:44:03.37
"What do you want
to see for next year?
00:44:03.41\00:44:04.74
What program?"
00:44:04.77\00:44:06.11
I said, "Well, I really like
for Steve Wohlberg to come."
00:44:06.14\00:44:08.44
He calls Wohlberg
00:44:08.48\00:44:09.81
and he calls me
back and he says,
00:44:09.84\00:44:11.25
"He's booked out for a year,
00:44:11.28\00:44:12.61
no chance that he can
be here in 2002 he said."
00:44:12.65\00:44:16.48
Well, guess what?
00:44:16.52\00:44:17.85
Steve got a cancellation,
he came in February of 2002.
00:44:17.89\00:44:21.69
And so I'm just eating it up.
00:44:21.72\00:44:25.59
The pastor makes sure
that Steve and his wife
00:44:25.63\00:44:28.66
and I are sitting
at the same table.
00:44:28.70\00:44:31.20
And I didn't know
this till much later
00:44:31.23\00:44:33.44
but Steve had gone
to the pastor saying,
00:44:33.47\00:44:35.27
"You got to get this
woman in the church."
00:44:35.30\00:44:37.37
And Pastor
Graves, bless his heart,
00:44:37.41\00:44:39.41
such a godly man he said,
00:44:39.44\00:44:40.98
"Oh, no, the Lord has
already told me hands off.
00:44:41.01\00:44:44.15
He's bringing her in."
00:44:44.18\00:44:45.81
And I'm gonna
have to fast forward.
00:44:45.85\00:44:47.55
So what happens
was, this is 2002, right?
00:44:47.58\00:44:52.05
I joined on June 1 of 2002,
00:44:52.09\00:44:56.62
I'm watching 3ABN Today program.
00:44:56.66\00:44:59.69
As I am getting ready
to go teach Sabbath school
00:44:59.73\00:45:03.06
'cause we had,
would have our path,
00:45:03.10\00:45:05.30
we had it out of order
00:45:05.33\00:45:06.67
because the pastor was
going to different programs.
00:45:06.70\00:45:08.74
But he had me, I was teaching.
00:45:08.77\00:45:11.51
And as I am listening,
I prayed Friday night,
00:45:11.54\00:45:15.84
"Lord, if you want me to join
this church as many programs
00:45:15.88\00:45:20.32
as I've watched
they've not talked about
00:45:20.35\00:45:21.78
the Holy Spirit."
00:45:21.82\00:45:23.15
And I said, "I've got to know
00:45:23.18\00:45:24.65
that if You want me
to join this church,
00:45:24.69\00:45:26.76
I've got to know they
believed in the baptism
00:45:26.79\00:45:28.59
and the Holy Spirit and
being led by the spirit."
00:45:28.62\00:45:31.23
So I've got the TV on,
00:45:31.26\00:45:32.59
I'm getting ready
for Sabbath school.
00:45:32.63\00:45:35.36
Guess what?
00:45:35.40\00:45:36.73
It's Denise Smith,
you were interviewing him.
00:45:36.77\00:45:38.80
It was all on the
baptism and the Holy Spirit.
00:45:38.83\00:45:40.80
And I was just like,
00:45:40.84\00:45:42.17
"Whoo-hoo, Lord,
that's my answer."
00:45:42.20\00:45:44.91
And so June 8 of
2002, I joined the church.
00:45:44.94\00:45:48.78
Steve Wohlberg calls
me, I went to work with him
00:45:48.81\00:45:52.51
and he was up in
Dallas and I'd go up weekly
00:45:52.55\00:45:54.65
and work with his ministry.
00:45:54.68\00:45:56.48
He calls me and says,
00:45:56.52\00:45:58.32
"Will you man our booth at ASI?"
00:45:58.35\00:46:02.06
I said, "What's ASI?"
00:46:02.09\00:46:03.49
So he's telling me
August of 2002, I go to ASI,
00:46:03.53\00:46:08.16
I am manning the booth,
00:46:08.20\00:46:09.53
you and I bump into
each other in the hallway.
00:46:09.56\00:46:14.20
And I just, and I just
tell you kind of a little bit
00:46:14.24\00:46:18.04
what I've just said,
00:46:18.07\00:46:19.81
you made sure Teresa
Booth interviewed me,
00:46:19.84\00:46:21.91
but then you had
me on live that night.
00:46:21.94\00:46:25.01
You know when you
interview certain people.
00:46:25.05\00:46:27.55
And so what
happened then is that,
00:46:27.58\00:46:31.42
that is when
after that in October,
00:46:31.45\00:46:36.26
Dee Hildebrand called and said,
00:46:36.29\00:46:37.63
"Can you come do the
New Year's Eve program?"
00:46:37.66\00:46:42.13
And I said, "Sure."
00:46:42.16\00:46:43.83
So this is 2002, December 31,
00:46:43.87\00:46:47.87
we drive in and
there's snow on the ground.
00:46:47.90\00:46:50.87
And I tell to JD,
"Honey, can you believe that..."
00:46:50.91\00:46:56.61
We came in the night before.
00:46:56.64\00:46:57.98
But I said, "Do you
realize that God knew
00:46:58.01\00:47:00.75
from the
beginning of time that on."
00:47:00.78\00:47:03.32
And he had it recorded
in His heavenly record book
00:47:03.35\00:47:05.72
that we would be
here on this day.
00:47:05.75\00:47:09.62
And he just says, "Wow,
that's a happy thought."
00:47:09.66\00:47:11.79
So we did the interview.
00:47:11.83\00:47:13.86
Afterwards you all took
me back and offered me a job.
00:47:13.90\00:47:17.27
And I was scheduled
to do some Kids Time
00:47:17.30\00:47:20.30
'cause I met
Brenda at the thing too.
00:47:20.34\00:47:24.41
And so I stayed two
weeks and did the Kids Time
00:47:24.44\00:47:27.74
and I tried out
every department.
00:47:27.78\00:47:29.64
And, Danny, I'll never forget
I had such a sinking feeling,
00:47:29.68\00:47:32.35
I was supposed to meet with
you at the end of the two weeks.
00:47:32.38\00:47:35.12
And my heart was here
00:47:35.15\00:47:37.29
but I didn't feel
like God had released me
00:47:37.32\00:47:38.99
from this call to Word ministry.
00:47:39.02\00:47:41.49
So you call me into
your office and said,
00:47:41.52\00:47:44.19
"Well, what do you think?"
00:47:44.23\00:47:45.56
And I said, "Danny,
00:47:45.59\00:47:46.93
I just can't
come to a decision."
00:47:46.96\00:47:48.30
I said, before I even
got out of my struggle,
00:47:48.33\00:47:51.00
you said, "Shelley,
we all want you here."
00:47:51.03\00:47:53.44
But he said,
00:47:53.47\00:47:54.80
"You said God's
given you a special message
00:47:54.84\00:47:56.77
and He's impressed upon my heart
00:47:56.81\00:47:58.91
that I can't
interrupt His call on your life.
00:47:58.94\00:48:01.14
So I think instead of being,
00:48:01.18\00:48:02.91
joining administration
you're gonna be a programmer."
00:48:02.94\00:48:05.48
And sure enough
00:48:05.51\00:48:06.85
then that is I
did Exalting His Word.
00:48:06.88\00:48:10.62
And had 17 days
to write that book.
00:48:10.65\00:48:14.12
And then we came
into that program,
00:48:14.16\00:48:16.12
then I began volunteering here
for the next 18 months or so.
00:48:16.16\00:48:20.96
And we did Up Closes together,
I was on some Lives with you.
00:48:21.00\00:48:25.53
And then, I mean,
our hearts were here,
00:48:25.57\00:48:28.37
this is, that's
all I talked about
00:48:28.40\00:48:29.97
was 3ABN and the ministry here.
00:48:30.01\00:48:32.87
So we got the call in December
00:48:32.91\00:48:35.38
of 2004
offering us both the job.
00:48:35.41\00:48:38.91
And we came here
in January of 2005.
00:48:38.95\00:48:42.02
Praise the Lord. Wow.
00:48:42.05\00:48:43.49
Great testimony.
And JD. Yes, sir.
00:48:43.52\00:48:45.82
Came around and now,
00:48:45.85\00:48:47.49
JD Quinn is our
pastoral director
00:48:47.52\00:48:50.99
of pastoral ministry.
00:48:51.03\00:48:53.86
Yes, yes.
00:48:53.90\00:48:55.23
From all of that he missed,
look how much he's soaked in,
00:48:55.26\00:48:58.47
now, he's helping people
around the world and Shelley,
00:48:58.50\00:49:00.80
of course, is
program development
00:49:00.84\00:49:02.74
but she wears numerous hats.
00:49:02.77\00:49:04.74
So we're so
thankful that you all came.
00:49:04.77\00:49:07.78
You know, and it
just goes to prove again
00:49:07.81\00:49:09.94
that God is supernatural.
00:49:09.98\00:49:11.95
That He is the one
that's moving the parts
00:49:11.98\00:49:13.98
that it used to, it
used to really amaze me
00:49:14.02\00:49:18.09
that I would get a certain call
00:49:18.12\00:49:19.69
from a certain person
that I was supposed to,
00:49:19.72\00:49:23.39
how does God do that,
00:49:23.43\00:49:24.76
how come he didn't
get that call, he didn't.
00:49:24.79\00:49:26.73
It's because God is
in charge. That's right.
00:49:26.76\00:49:29.46
So please allow God to
be in charge of your lives,
00:49:29.50\00:49:33.44
submit to Him, you know.
00:49:33.47\00:49:35.07
I mean, I could write
the book on surrender today.
00:49:35.10\00:49:37.77
And I ask a thousand
times, "Shelley, what do I do?"
00:49:37.81\00:49:40.74
And she keeps saying,
00:49:40.78\00:49:42.11
"JD, you just
have to surrender."
00:49:42.14\00:49:44.18
Well, I confuse
surrendering with consent,
00:49:44.21\00:49:48.15
surrender to me mean give up.
00:49:48.18\00:49:50.75
And I just, that
wasn't part of who I was.
00:49:50.79\00:49:53.82
But I certainly
understand giving consent.
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You know, I
love being in harmony
00:49:57.86\00:49:59.66
with someone else.
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And let me say
something, God told me
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that He was gonna
do a quick work in JD.
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And I watched it,
before we came here,
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he really started
studying in the Word.
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But I watched him
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in those first
six months, he just...
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Because he was praying
God's Word over people,
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that's all he does now.
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He never reads anything
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but the Bible or
biblical material.
00:50:20.62\00:50:23.28
And he has, he
is such a godly man,
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I'm so blessed to be married.
00:50:26.42\00:50:28.59
And he's now
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the spiritual
leader in our home.
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Now we're thankful
that you both are here.
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And from the very first
moment I met you at ASI,
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I knew the Lord
00:50:37.80\00:50:39.13
was gonna have
you here to ministry,
00:50:39.17\00:50:41.57
didn't know how
exactly that would work.
00:50:41.60\00:50:43.71
And so, that's when
we developed relationship
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and ask you to
come and do things.
00:50:46.68\00:50:48.04
I told Dee, we need to
get this lady and see what,
00:50:48.08\00:50:51.58
you know, just
something about it,
00:50:51.61\00:50:53.68
you know, when you see it.
00:50:53.72\00:50:55.08
And I had no idea
that the Lord was saying,
00:50:55.12\00:50:56.92
you would hook up
with other ministry
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but yet in my heart
00:50:58.99\00:51:00.86
I knew that you
all would be here.
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What a blessing
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that you have
been for so many years,
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both of you.
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And only eternity
will be able to tell
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when you're in heaven,
for eternity the people
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that will come up and
say thank you, Shelley,
00:51:11.30\00:51:13.30
thank you, JD.
00:51:13.34\00:51:14.67
'Cause JD talks with people,
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prays with
people around the world.
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Yes, you two wrote a
book that has really impacted.
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It has been so
impactful. Tell us a little bit?
00:51:22.71\00:51:25.28
Ten Commandments, Twice Removed.
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You don't have it, you
will give you a copy free.
00:51:27.12\00:51:30.19
And so we did that in 2004.
00:51:30.22\00:51:33.76
And it's, I think,
00:51:33.79\00:51:35.39
11 million now has been printed.
00:51:35.42\00:51:37.76
I don't know how many,
00:51:37.79\00:51:39.13
do you get that,
it's now in Chinese.
00:51:39.16\00:51:40.83
We had that in
so many languages.
00:51:40.86\00:51:42.20
I know, and we've seen
so many, so many people
00:51:42.23\00:51:45.47
that have really joined
the church and accepted Jesus.
00:51:45.50\00:51:48.54
And joined the
church because of that book.
00:51:48.57\00:51:50.24
If you don't have
yours, just tell him,
00:51:50.27\00:51:52.61
Danny and Shelly
said, we'd give one,
00:51:52.64\00:51:54.31
you can write to or
send to 3ABN or call us.
00:51:54.34\00:51:57.15
I cannot believe that our
time is just about all gone.
00:51:57.18\00:51:59.08
What we're gonna do
00:51:59.11\00:52:00.45
is we're gonna
go to a news break
00:52:00.48\00:52:01.82
and then we're gonna come
back for a closing thought.
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