I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray.
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And allow me to
thank you once again
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for sharing just a
little of your day with us,
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so thank you as
always for your love,
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your prayers, your support
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of Three Angels
Broadcasting Network,
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as together we
lift up the mighty
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and matchless name of Jesus
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and we get the world
prepared for the greatest event
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in the history of mankind,
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that is the second coming
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of our Lord and
savior Jesus Christ.
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So you will forgive me
today because I am excited, yea,
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to get in this
because of our subject matter
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and because of the two young men
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who are my guests,
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and when I say
young comparatively,
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if you added both of their
ages you would not get mine.
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So they are young men,
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but they are young men
who are on fire for the Lord
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and the ministry is
called "Shining Light Ministry".
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We are gonna delve into that
and try to unearth what that is
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and what it does,
and what it seeks to do.
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My guests are, and I want
to get this name right, Ilcias,
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which I love, Ilcias Vargas
and Samuel's kind of easy,
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Samuel Vargas.
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Guys, good to have you here.
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We are glad to
be here too. Good.
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Let me give you the punch
line, for these are young guys
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not yet driving
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either I don't believe, not yet,
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but on fire for the Lord,
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and covering a lot of
territory for the Lord.
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And praise the Lord,
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you have good
loving parents who are...
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you have a corteg here today.
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You come all the way from...?
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Northern
Virginia. Northern Virginia.
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So about 12, 14 hours, or so?
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Yes, about 12 hours.
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Good to have you guys here.
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Before we go to our music,
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I want to get into
a couple of things,
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because obviously you
grew up in Adventist home,
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Christian home.
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Were you home schooled or
did you go to public school?
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Home schooled. Home schooled!
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Still being home
schooled, I suspect.
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Yes. Your mom
doing the teaching.
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Well, our parents... Both.
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they did administrative work
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with the aid of a
Adventist home teacher.
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Praise the Lord.
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You like being home schooled?
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Yes. It's really good. Yes.
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It's pretty much the
same as other schools
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'cause we have a schedule
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that we follow
throughout the day,
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and we have homework, I guess.
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Everything's homework as
we are doing it at our home.
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That's all, well, that is true.
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That is true.
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Let me ask you
this because, Ilcias,
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you preach and Samuel plays,
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which is a nice
combination actually
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when you think about it.
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We were talking before
about the call to ministry
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and you are
preaching in your local area,
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you are preaching around.
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When did it occur to you
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that God wanted
you to be a preacher?
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Well, from the
earliest age I can remember,
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I was fascinated with,
you know, sharing God's work.
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As a toddler
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I would, in church I would
sometimes mimic the pastor,
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or at home I
would preach to my toys,
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or draw an audience
for me to preach to.
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Anything I could do to preach.
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So it's always been there. Yes.
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And so at the age of nine,
I got my first opportunity,
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God provided the
first opportunity.
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I was member of
the Adventurer Club
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at Woodbridge
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and I shared my desire to
preach with the head elder
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and he invited me to speak
for Pathfinder Adventure Day,
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and so that was back in 2011.
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And so God has given
me many more opportunities
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and sent to speak for
Him and it's wonderful.
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Praise the Lord.
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Were you ever nervous
standing in the pulpit
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or were you pretty comfortable?
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Usually, I am nervous before.
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And then as I get
up to speak, you know,
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that's where the Lord takes over
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and, you know, it
runs smoothly from there.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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When did you
begin playing, Samuel?
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Well, we both, we
both take piano lessons.
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We both studied at the age
of seven and eight years old.
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We have been blessed
with wonderful teachers
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who helped us to
develop our talent for,
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to the glory of God.
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Praise the Lord.
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Do either of your
parents play instruments?
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No. No.
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Not really.
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But did they want you to play
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or was something you
guys desire to do on your own?
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Oh, they wanted us to play.
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They wanted you to play.
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Yeah, mother. Yes, yes.
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Our mother, you know,
she had seen her mother,
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you know, sing for my dad's,
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my grandfather's
evangelistic meetings
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and I think that my grandfather
was a pastor in Jamaica,
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Pastor W.H. Decanter.
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And my grandmother
would sing for his meetings
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and my mother would witness
the power of God through music,
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and so she always
desire that her children
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would learn to play music
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and use music to
the glory of God,
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and so she make sure
we got piano lessons.
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Let me ask you a question
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which may be a bit embarrassing.
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Because my parents
wanted me to play violin
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and I frankly hated the violin
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and I would not
practice, and so they said,
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"Well, if you are
not going to practice
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and we're not
gonna waste our money."
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Did you have to
be encouraged to play
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or to practice or
what some of your thoughts?
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Definitely, I think,
that is the thing, yes.
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That's the way it usually is.
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We are watching the
clock for half an hour...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When is practice over.
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Yeah. That's,
usually the way it is.
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It's funny
because you don't really
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respect the time
your parents put in,
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I don't want to say forcing,
encouraging you to play,
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till you get
older and look back,
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and then you
kind of glad they did.
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And now I regret it that my mom
didn't kind of push me to do so
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but she just said,
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"Well, if you
don't want to practice,
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I am not going
to waste my money."
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But as you get older
and get some perspective,
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you realize that's a
good discipline to have,
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and it really
does add to your life.
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Yes. Yeah.
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It is one thing,
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and I want to go
to music in a minute
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but I want to just
get this question out.
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It is one thing to
grow up in an Adventist home
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surrounded by
Adventist parents and siblings,
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it is another thing altogether
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to know Jesus for yourself,
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and I want you both to
sort of wrestle with this
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and answer this question for me.
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At what point in your lives
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did the idea of one-on-one
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surrender relationship
to Jesus occur to you?
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At what age, how old,
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or was it a
sudden kind of thing?
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Did it kind of ease its
way into your consciousness?
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How did that relationship
first of all occurred to you
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and then develop in your life?
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I guess, Ilcias,
we can start with you.
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All right.
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Like you mentioned it gradual,
you know, my parents, you know,
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taught me about God
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and that He had a
special plan for my life.
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But it wasn't really
till like the age of nine
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that I kind of
realized, you know,
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I can't depend on my
parents to go to heaven,
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it has to be done through Jesus
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so personal
relationship with Jesus.
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Yeah.
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And so it was at the age of nine
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really where I
committed my life to Christ
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and said, "Lord, you
have your way in my life."
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As I grow older, of course,
I began to learn more about,
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you know, developing a
relationship with Christ
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and I became more intentional
about that relationship.
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In 2015,
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I believe, I began a
Bible reading program,
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took me through an entire year.
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And I know it's
powerful because, you know,
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as I began in the
earlier on in the year,
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I'd just be reading the Bible.
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Yes.
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But then, you know,
I knew the principle
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'pray before you read',
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and so I would
pray reading the Bible
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and then as the years passed
on I would think, you know,
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"Well, I pray
before I read the Bible.
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Why not just take some time
to talk to God about the day
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and the challenges or trials
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that may be coming
up during the day."
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And so that really
established my prayer life.
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And so it's been a
wonderful experience,
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a wonderful
relationship with God
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that's grown
throughout the years.
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Samuel, same question.
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Your relationship,
kind of a sudden thing,
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something that grew on
you, about what age were you
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when you kind of
locked one-on-one with Christ?
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Like when he said,
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it was about the age
of eight or nine years old
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when I actually realized
that I can't get to heaven
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based on what my
parents have done.
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I have to make a
personal decision.
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I have to have a one-on-one
relationship with Christ.
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And since then,
it's kind of been
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a gradual growth experience.
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I have grown closer to Him.
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I have known to
depend on Him for things,
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for different things,
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and to trust Him in
challenging circumstances,
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and even in simple
things like school,
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praying before a test,
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asking Him to help me
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to remember the things I
have learned and studied.
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Praise the Lord.
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Let me congratulate
and encourage you both
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because age nine,
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that's a fairly mature
thought for a nine year old.
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I actually joined the
church at age nine too
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but I had no
Adventist in my family.
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Mine was a little more
sudden, I would go to church
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and with the
people across the street,
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and my mother let me
go, she didn't want to go
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or neither my dad but
I like to go on Sabbath.
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And one day
there's pastor's preaching,
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and he made a call and
I saw myself walking down,
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I am like, "Why
am I walking down?
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But I did.
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And, of course, I
have ever looked back.
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But the notion, the idea,
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that I'm going
to have to develop
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a relationship for myself
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and not lean on
my mom or my dad,
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it's fairly sophisticated to
thinking for a nine year old,
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but that occurred
to both of you that
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this is going to,
has to be one-on-one.
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Yes. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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At what age did you
get baptized, Ilcias?
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Let's see, it
was at the age of 11.
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Eleven. Eleven.
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2013. Samuel?
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Age of ten. We were
baptized on the same day.
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Oh! Okay. Okay.
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We studied together.
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We took Bible studies together
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and then we are
baptized together.
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Praise the Lord.
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My grandfather was
actually there at our baptism.
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That must have been nice.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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See I baptized my parents.
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I baptized my
mom, I baptized my dad,
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I baptized my sister,
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I was the only
Adventist in my family,
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so ours is a little bit reverse.
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And back then
when we were studying,
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they kept you in
baptismal class for six months.
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Wow!
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They want to make sure that
your roots went deep, you know,
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no quickie stuff,
it's six months though.
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The kept you in a long time.
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But once you made
that decision, any regrets?
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No. No regrets.
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Well said. I got you.
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Jesus says, "No regrets."
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So you haven't looked back? No.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord. I
am happy with that.
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I want to go to the
music, then I want to get back
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and talk a little bit more
about the ministry, the name,
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and what it seeks to do,
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and what you guys are
seeking to do for the Lord.
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Our music today is coming
from just a great pianist,
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a great friend of this ministry,
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one of Nashville's finest,
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we all know and love Tim Parton
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who is a favorite
friend around here,
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Emmy nominated
guy, one of the...
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considered one of the
better pianists in America.
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Just a wonderful person
but also a wonderful Christian
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who God has given a really
wonderful and special gift,
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and what he is going to
be playing for us today is
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"Wonderful Grace of Jesus".
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Well done, Tim Parton,
"Wonderful Grace of Jesus",
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great friend of this ministry
and great personal friend,
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and we love Tim around here.
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My guests are
Ilcias and Samuel Vargas,
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they of Shining Light Ministry.
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And we talked about
this before we came on air,
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where did that name came from?
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It came from the verses, well,
several verses in the Bible.
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But primarily,
Proverbs 4:18, which says,
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"The path of the
just is as a shining light
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which shines more and
more unto the perfect day."
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Talking about the
progression of truth.
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Yes.
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And then in Matthew
chapter 5, I believe verse 18,
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where Jesus says,
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"Let your light
so shine before men."
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So as one verse talks
about the truth of God
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where as the
other one talks about
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how Christians are to reflect
that truth in their lives.
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Sure. Very admirable title.
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Let me ask you this,
guys because you are young,
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young men, 15, 16, 14, 15,
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I don't
remember, 15, 16, 14, 15?
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15, 16. 15, 16.
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Okay, 15, 16.
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So young mid-teens,
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you could be out
playing basketball,
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running around doing stuff.
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Do you put in Bible
study time every day?
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Yes. It's a priority.
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It's a priority. Yes.
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So it's nothing your
parents have to force you to do.
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No. Praise the Lord.
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We make a decision
to get up every morning
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and spend some time in
the study of God's Word.
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So you do it every
morning? Every morning.
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First thing? Yes.
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Both of you? Yes.
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Praise the Lord.
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For young people,
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that's commendable
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that you are putting God first,
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because if you are seeking
to do things for the Lord,
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you need the power
of God in your life.
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So it's not something
you have to be forced to do
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like piano practice.
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This is something
you want to do, right?
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Yes, and by the
way, piano practice
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is no longer forced anymore.
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Praise the Lord.
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It's progressed. I
am so glad to hear that.
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But this is a natural
part of your daily routine.
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Yes.
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On those days when you
may get a little rushed
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and things get a little hectic,
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can you feel the
lack of Bible study
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and the affect
it has on your life?
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Definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
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So you know it's
something that you need to do
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and that's the integral part
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of your existence with the Lord.
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Yes, definitely.
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Yeah, it's like
eating is necessary for life,
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studying God's
Word and spending,
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well, not just
studying God's Word
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but also praying to Him,
it's a two way connection.
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Spending time in Bible study
and prayers is very important
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in the Christian life.
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And I believe
it's very important
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especially in our younger years
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as my brother
and I are teenagers,
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it really helps to set the
right perspective for life.
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So I suspect you
have been serving the Lord
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really since
you came out of your
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single digits
into your teen years.
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Do you guys still get tempted
or you have you pretty much
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gotten over some of
that wilderness stuff
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that kids go
through in their mid-teens?
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I would say there are
still quite a few temptations
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out there that kind of
attempt to draw us away
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but when our connection
is strong with the Lord,
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doesn't matter at all.
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Yes, that's why again back
to that connection with God,
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that will keep you.
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I think, was it David
in Psalm 119 who said,
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"How can a young
man keep his way pure
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is by taking heed
according to the word."
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You know, I
certainly wouldn't mind
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losing a few years
and be a little younger,
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but I don't know if I
want to be a teen again.
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I have such great
respect for young people
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who have locked on to the Lord
as you two appear to have done.
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It is one thing to
grow up in Adventist home,
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it is another thing even
to be part of a church family,
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but it's a
different thing to stand up
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and want to speak for the Lord
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because one, you
have the responsibility
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of being an example
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so that your words
are matched by your deeds,
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you had that pressure.
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And also the fact that
when you stand up for the Lord,
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you develop one consistent,
persistent enemy who is Satan.
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Definitely. Now Praise the Lord.
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"Greater is he that is in
you than he that is in world,"
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but as young
people you must know
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you are on the
firing line of the enemy.
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Yes.
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And that's something we
have to constantly remember.
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Yes.
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As we minister for
God, we have to realize
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we have to be
continually on our guard.
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We may be raised
in a Christian home,
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we may be surrounded
by Christian influences
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but there are still
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the attempts of the
enemy to draw us away.
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Satan try to draw us away
through pride and selfishness
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and need to be on
guard continually.
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Did the idea for
Shining Light Ministry,
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was that a corporate idea
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or did one of
you come up with it?
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How did that sort of developed?
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Well, it sort of
developed gradually.
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It was mainly his idea
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but we kind of planned together
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on how we have
to structure this,
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and even at this point
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we haven't
really gotten like big.
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Yeah, like a
structured organization.
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But it's really the
spontaneous overflow
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of our Christian experience.
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But really our involvement
in ministry for the Lord
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began before the development
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of Shining Light Media Ministry.
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I would, to put a date
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on the
beginning of the ministry,
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I would say 2012.
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But from 2011, you know,
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2011 was so when I
preached my first sermon,
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and my dad used the
video or cam recorder
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to record the sermon on video.
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And so he burned it to a
DVD, shared it with friends,
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he uploaded to the
web, shared it on the web,
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and so I like to think of that
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as a beginning of
our media ministry,
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the media
aspect of our ministry.
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But as we grew older
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and as we continue to
develop our talents for God,
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we had been invited to
ministry of different churches,
00:21:02.66\00:21:05.96
either to do special
music or to, or for me to speak,
00:21:05.99\00:21:10.23
and my dad would
record them on video
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and shared them
via DVD and the web.
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And so that gave him
our messages in music
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even greater reach than
before 'cause, you know,
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one special music or sermon
can be done in one church.
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Yes.
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But once shared on the web,
it can have a greater reach.
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Very much so.
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We talked about, if you remember
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your very first sermon,
00:21:29.95\00:21:31.92
do you remember
what kind of response
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the audience had to...
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the congregation
had to your speaking?
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They certainly said
that they were blessed.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
00:21:40.50\00:21:41.83
And especially to
see a young person
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willing to share God's Word.
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And so...
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Yeah, it was really
blessing and, you know,
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I find myself amazed every time,
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it never grows old.
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We are sharing God's Word
00:21:52.81\00:21:54.14
and the response
people afterwards,
00:21:54.18\00:21:56.18
you know, it's almost as
if there is a little voice
00:21:56.21\00:21:59.15
in the back of my mind,
"I got to do this again."
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Got to do this again.
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It's very
addictive, it really is.
00:22:02.92\00:22:04.25
Yeah, it is, it is.
00:22:04.29\00:22:05.62
Do you recall the first time,
and maybe in your first sermon,
00:22:05.65\00:22:08.96
when you had someone
respond to your appeal?
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Not necessarily my first time,
and that was more like a charge
00:22:14.23\00:22:18.03
because it was
Pathfinder Adventure day.
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But the Lord has been, you know,
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in different, in different,
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in different lines of ministry
00:22:28.28\00:22:31.31
there is
progress in development.
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Oh, yes!
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And so, you
know, as we have been,
00:22:34.22\00:22:36.48
you know, we take music lessons
00:22:36.52\00:22:37.95
and we've grown
nice skills on the piano
00:22:37.99\00:22:40.16
and so the same thing I
believe happens by preaching
00:22:40.19\00:22:42.62
because, you know,
00:22:42.66\00:22:44.53
over the past
few months and years,
00:22:44.56\00:22:46.39
God has been teaching
me how to make appeals.
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You know, for
the first few years
00:22:48.80\00:22:50.13
I kind of shied away from that,
00:22:50.17\00:22:51.50
like, I don't want to,
you know, press too far.
00:22:51.53\00:22:54.14
But especially
these past few months,
00:22:54.17\00:22:59.37
God has been
working very powerfully.
00:22:59.41\00:23:02.28
At church, we've been
starting to go through,
00:23:02.31\00:23:04.58
you know, some of the
basic Adventist doctrines.
00:23:04.61\00:23:06.82
And they preach on
Daniel 2, and made an appeal,
00:23:06.85\00:23:09.62
my brother provides
the music for the appeal,
00:23:09.65\00:23:12.19
and so it's very powerful,
00:23:12.22\00:23:14.06
that one was more
of a prayer appeal.
00:23:14.09\00:23:15.96
But it was amazing,
people said, you know,
00:23:15.99\00:23:18.83
they understood
things as never before
00:23:18.86\00:23:21.20
and understood the seriousness
of the times in which we live.
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At a different church in
Arlington a few weeks ago,
00:23:24.70\00:23:28.37
I didn't even know I
had to make an appeal,
00:23:28.40\00:23:30.31
but they asked me,
00:23:30.34\00:23:32.04
"Can you make an appeal
at the end of the message?"
00:23:32.07\00:23:34.18
And so relying
on the Lord's Spirit
00:23:34.21\00:23:35.84
and the power that he gives us,
00:23:35.88\00:23:38.51
I made the appeal,
00:23:38.55\00:23:40.12
and afterwards the
Pathfinder coordinator said,
00:23:40.15\00:23:43.18
"You know, both
members and nonmembers
00:23:43.22\00:23:46.05
responded very
positively to your speech."
00:23:46.09\00:23:47.82
Amen. Amen! So praise the Lord
00:23:47.86\00:23:49.19
for what He has
been working through me.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Have you found that
calling people to Jesus
00:23:51.96\00:23:53.90
is an addictive thing?
00:23:53.93\00:23:55.40
Yes, it is
addictive. It is addictive.
00:23:55.43\00:23:58.73
It's very addictive.
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Have you done
any evangelism yet?
00:24:00.14\00:24:01.67
Well, that kind of ties
into the reformation project
00:24:01.70\00:24:05.04
that we worked on in 2017.
00:24:05.07\00:24:08.04
In 2017, well, let
me backtrack to 2016
00:24:08.08\00:24:12.65
because in October of
that year we realized,
00:24:12.68\00:24:15.98
you know, the upcoming year,
00:24:16.02\00:24:17.85
it's the Protestant Reformation,
00:24:17.89\00:24:19.22
500 year anniversary.
00:24:19.25\00:24:22.06
But we didn't really
think about it that much until
00:24:22.09\00:24:25.19
probably the summer of 2017,
00:24:25.23\00:24:27.53
and the Lord
impressed us with the idea
00:24:27.56\00:24:29.03
that this would be
00:24:29.06\00:24:30.40
a powerful ministry opportunity.
00:24:30.43\00:24:32.33
And so we put together a
video, a ten minute video,
00:24:32.37\00:24:35.94
short documentary video
00:24:35.97\00:24:38.37
about the historical
and spiritual significance
00:24:38.41\00:24:40.54
of the Protestant Reformation,
00:24:40.58\00:24:42.54
and we shared it on YouTube,
and we used that to promote
00:24:42.58\00:24:46.61
a weekend long
series at our church
00:24:46.65\00:24:49.88
about the
Protestant Reformation series
00:24:49.92\00:24:51.65
which I preached.
00:24:51.69\00:24:53.05
And so, I like to
think of that as, you know,
00:24:53.09\00:24:55.52
one of my first experiences,
00:24:55.56\00:24:56.89
our first
experiences in evangelism,
00:24:56.93\00:24:58.99
and, you know, I
definitely want to do
00:24:59.03\00:25:00.93
evangelism in the future.
00:25:00.96\00:25:03.20
In fact, that's
the line of ministry
00:25:03.23\00:25:04.80
I believe God's
calling me into, evangelism.
00:25:04.83\00:25:07.17
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:25:07.20\00:25:09.00
Samuel, you, of course,
00:25:09.04\00:25:10.54
play for your brother
and play along with him.
00:25:10.57\00:25:13.24
The idea of preaching
never occurred to you.
00:25:13.27\00:25:17.58
Not really.
00:25:17.61\00:25:20.52
God calls His servants
00:25:20.55\00:25:22.98
to do the work in
different capacities,
00:25:23.02\00:25:25.85
and I feel that
preaching is just not my thing.
00:25:25.89\00:25:29.92
I don't feel I can get up
in front of a crowd of people
00:25:29.96\00:25:32.23
and share the Word of God.
00:25:32.26\00:25:33.83
If He tells me later on
that I'm supposed to do that,
00:25:33.86\00:25:36.67
I'll do it.
00:25:36.70\00:25:38.03
Yes.
00:25:38.07\00:25:39.40
But at this point in
my life I don't feel,
00:25:39.43\00:25:40.77
I don't feel that quite yet.
00:25:40.80\00:25:42.14
But especially during
appeals, he is very helpful
00:25:42.17\00:25:43.94
because for a pianist
00:25:43.97\00:25:46.44
to read notes from
a book is one thing...
00:25:46.47\00:25:49.21
Yes.
00:25:49.24\00:25:50.58
But at first
pianist to keep on going
00:25:50.61\00:25:52.41
and looping during the appeal
00:25:52.45\00:25:55.15
that sometimes I
go a bit longer than
00:25:55.18\00:25:56.65
he expects me to.
00:25:56.69\00:25:58.25
And sometimes I ask the
congregation to sing along
00:25:58.29\00:26:00.82
and he doesn't
expect to have to play
00:26:00.86\00:26:02.19
for the congregation, so.
00:26:02.22\00:26:03.66
He is tricky.
00:26:03.69\00:26:06.16
So you've kind of developed
a rhythm with each other
00:26:06.19\00:26:08.16
as far as knowing
what the other person wants
00:26:08.20\00:26:09.56
what the other person expects.
00:26:09.60\00:26:10.93
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
00:26:10.97\00:26:12.30
I think of it like the
Wesley brothers, you know,
00:26:12.33\00:26:13.67
there was John
Wesley, the preaching,
00:26:13.70\00:26:15.20
and Charles with the music.
00:26:15.24\00:26:17.97
That's really great.
00:26:18.01\00:26:19.34
I will tell you a
secret, I did a week of prayer
00:26:19.37\00:26:20.88
right after I
came out of college.
00:26:20.91\00:26:22.44
My mother was a Methodist
00:26:22.48\00:26:23.81
and I knew she was ready
00:26:23.85\00:26:25.18
to come to the
Lord because she...
00:26:25.21\00:26:26.82
As I would make an
appeal every night,
00:26:26.85\00:26:29.38
she would cry and kind
of rock in a pew, you know.
00:26:29.42\00:26:32.65
And I knew it was Friday night,
00:26:32.69\00:26:34.02
I was getting
down to my last night
00:26:34.06\00:26:35.72
and I was going to preach
Sabbath, it would be done.
00:26:35.76\00:26:37.49
And she was crying and
then rocking and crying,
00:26:37.53\00:26:40.33
and I took her to the cross
00:26:40.36\00:26:41.70
and I talked about
the coming of the Lord,
00:26:41.73\00:26:43.06
I talked about
burning in hell, you know,
00:26:43.10\00:26:44.63
everything and she
wouldn't get out of her seat,
00:26:44.67\00:26:46.37
I appealed almost 40 minutes.
00:26:46.40\00:26:48.47
Wow!
00:26:48.50\00:26:49.84
I said, "Lord, she's going to
get out of that seat tonight."
00:26:49.87\00:26:52.37
And the pianist
played and played and played
00:26:52.41\00:26:56.34
and after about 40
minutes up she stood, you know,
00:26:56.38\00:26:59.91
she became a
Seventh-day Adventist,
00:26:59.95\00:27:01.28
baptized her myself
00:27:01.32\00:27:02.65
and she never
regretted joining the church,
00:27:02.68\00:27:04.02
loved it to the day she
died just several years ago.
00:27:04.05\00:27:07.19
Praise the Lord.
00:27:07.22\00:27:08.56
So I know how
important is to have a pianist
00:27:08.59\00:27:10.26
who can kind of
stick with you, you know.
00:27:10.29\00:27:11.96
Yes, definitely.
00:27:11.99\00:27:14.66
Rather than doing
it just from notes
00:27:14.70\00:27:16.03
who can just
kind of play and stay
00:27:16.06\00:27:17.40
and stay and stay with you.
00:27:17.43\00:27:21.00
There are other young
people who have begun to buy
00:27:21.04\00:27:23.47
into your ministry,
you are getting some help
00:27:23.51\00:27:25.07
because you're
talking about this,
00:27:25.11\00:27:26.44
producing this documentary,
00:27:26.47\00:27:27.91
that was not done by you
per se that you were part of it,
00:27:27.94\00:27:30.71
there was some other
help that you got with that,
00:27:30.75\00:27:32.21
is that not so?
00:27:32.25\00:27:33.58
Well, with the
documentary video,
00:27:33.62\00:27:35.58
the two of us worked on that
00:27:35.62\00:27:36.95
but really with the
development of the ministry
00:27:36.99\00:27:39.15
and the web
presence that we have.
00:27:39.19\00:27:42.09
It's really, we are
indebted to wonderful family
00:27:42.12\00:27:46.66
that was attending our church
00:27:46.70\00:27:48.33
when we moved to
Northern Virginia in 2014.
00:27:48.36\00:27:52.40
We attended Leesburg
Seventh-Day Adventist Church,
00:27:52.43\00:27:54.70
and the family we met
there on the first Sabbath,
00:27:54.74\00:27:57.71
the Penaranda family.
00:27:57.74\00:27:59.81
They are five of them,
00:27:59.84\00:28:01.28
the parents and
the three children,
00:28:01.31\00:28:04.61
two boys and a girl.
00:28:04.65\00:28:06.38
And they're a very
mission minded family
00:28:06.41\00:28:10.02
and they're
really committed to God.
00:28:10.05\00:28:12.89
And in fact, the
Father, Pastor Paul Penaranda,
00:28:12.92\00:28:17.23
he was the Pathfinder leader
and lay pastor of the church.
00:28:17.26\00:28:21.70
And, in fact, the
first Sabbath we were there,
00:28:21.73\00:28:25.03
he found out that we
could play the piano,
00:28:25.07\00:28:27.24
and so he had us
play special music
00:28:27.27\00:28:28.70
the following Sabbath
00:28:28.74\00:28:30.07
and really, he
was instrumental in,
00:28:30.11\00:28:32.41
you know, the ministry we have,
00:28:32.44\00:28:34.28
the music ministry we have
at the Leesburg Church today.
00:28:34.31\00:28:37.28
But as time
progressed we formed friendships
00:28:37.31\00:28:40.18
with the children,
Joshua, and Jared, and Rachel,
00:28:40.22\00:28:44.09
and especially Joshua and Jared,
00:28:44.12\00:28:45.82
we learned that we
have a common interest
00:28:45.85\00:28:48.29
in video production
00:28:48.32\00:28:49.82
combined with a strong
desire to share the gospel,
00:28:49.86\00:28:52.79
and so we teamed up with them.
00:28:52.83\00:28:55.66
In 2015, they helped
us in creating a website
00:28:55.70\00:28:59.43
for the ministry and
they can be viewed as
00:28:59.47\00:29:01.20
at
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.org.
00:29:01.24\00:29:03.27
Okay, now say it again.
00:29:03.30\00:29:05.04
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.
00:29:05.07\00:29:06.91
One word. .org. Yes, one word.
00:29:06.94\00:29:08.94
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.org.
00:29:08.98\00:29:12.48
And I was slowing you
down because so many of times
00:29:12.51\00:29:14.62
we hear people say,
"Oh, I couldn't get it.
00:29:14.65\00:29:17.19
He went too fast"
that kind of thing.
00:29:17.22\00:29:19.05
People listen,
or they're running
00:29:19.09\00:29:20.42
to grab a pen or
something, you know,
00:29:20.46\00:29:22.32
so we like to say it once
or twice so that they get it.
00:29:22.36\00:29:25.99
So it's
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.org.
00:29:26.03\00:29:29.86
Yes. Well done. Okay.
00:29:29.90\00:29:31.87
And so they helped to
get the web presence started
00:29:31.90\00:29:34.90
as well as on YouTube,
00:29:34.94\00:29:36.91
they launched
our YouTube channel,
00:29:36.94\00:29:38.97
and so we began
uploading videos of sermons
00:29:39.01\00:29:41.18
and musical presentations.
00:29:41.21\00:29:42.78
And it's amazing, you know,
00:29:42.81\00:29:45.28
the reach we can
have through the Internet.
00:29:45.31\00:29:49.12
We've looked at
some of the analytics
00:29:49.15\00:29:52.02
and we've gotten views
00:29:52.05\00:29:53.39
from places
like India, Pakistan,
00:29:53.42\00:29:55.76
the United Arab
Emirates, Canada,
00:29:55.79\00:29:59.89
you know, South America,
00:29:59.93\00:30:01.26
and we've been amazed to see,
00:30:01.30\00:30:04.27
you know, how these,
00:30:04.30\00:30:05.63
how the Lord has
taken these messages
00:30:05.67\00:30:07.14
to even greater reach
than just in our home church.
00:30:07.17\00:30:11.47
Give me some sense,
guys, of what kind of things
00:30:11.51\00:30:14.11
you're putting
up on the internet?
00:30:14.14\00:30:17.41
Sermon titles, topics,
what kinds of things you're,
00:30:17.45\00:30:19.91
you know,
exposing your audience to?
00:30:19.95\00:30:22.08
Well, we just do the sermons
00:30:22.12\00:30:25.09
that he and Joshua would preach,
00:30:25.12\00:30:27.36
sermons mainly on
fundamental beliefs
00:30:27.39\00:30:30.99
of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:30:31.03\00:30:32.89
and then we do,
00:30:32.93\00:30:34.26
we have a wide
variety of musical selections
00:30:34.30\00:30:36.83
that we and the
Penaranda children
00:30:36.87\00:30:39.30
would play or sing.
00:30:39.33\00:30:41.74
And we would
share these on YouTube
00:30:41.77\00:30:43.81
and even our website,
00:30:43.84\00:30:47.21
and thus we would
have a greater reach
00:30:47.24\00:30:48.61
with our ministry.
00:30:48.64\00:30:50.15
Very much so.
00:30:50.18\00:30:51.51
We also run a
blog on the website
00:30:51.55\00:30:52.88
and so I'm the make
main contributor to the blog,
00:30:52.91\00:30:56.42
and the blog shares insights
00:30:56.45\00:30:58.12
on Christian
living, or Bible topics,
00:30:58.15\00:31:01.02
or even current events
00:31:01.06\00:31:02.46
as they relate to
our spiritual lives.
00:31:02.49\00:31:05.56
In these blogs, blog
entries have been shared
00:31:05.59\00:31:08.00
in my church newsletter
00:31:08.03\00:31:10.07
as well as in other web
pages, and so it's amazing,
00:31:10.10\00:31:12.93
you know, people
have responded positively
00:31:12.97\00:31:15.84
with positive feedback.
00:31:15.87\00:31:17.21
So you're reaching out
00:31:17.24\00:31:18.57
to any number of media
trying to get the message out.
00:31:18.61\00:31:21.91
Yes. Yeah.
00:31:21.94\00:31:23.28
So at this
point in your ministry
00:31:23.31\00:31:24.85
you're dealing pretty
much with doctrinal subjects,
00:31:24.88\00:31:27.45
or pastoral subjects,
00:31:27.48\00:31:29.25
or are you pretty
much trying to lay
00:31:29.28\00:31:31.55
a doctrinal
foundation for your hearers?
00:31:31.59\00:31:34.32
Well, we want to focus
more on doctrine in the future,
00:31:34.36\00:31:38.69
right now we are more generic,
00:31:38.73\00:31:40.50
you know, Christian,
Christian topics, Bible topics.
00:31:40.53\00:31:44.80
But the idea
for this coming year
00:31:44.83\00:31:48.87
and years to come,
00:31:48.90\00:31:50.81
we're trying to create
a video, series of videos,
00:31:50.84\00:31:54.34
short probably like
five to seven minutes,
00:31:54.38\00:31:59.78
targeted especially towards,
00:31:59.81\00:32:01.95
you know, our age
people, young people of our age
00:32:01.98\00:32:06.15
that cover the
basic Adventist beliefs
00:32:06.19\00:32:09.22
in light of the
great controversy.
00:32:09.26\00:32:10.59
Yes.
00:32:10.63\00:32:12.03
I believe that,
you know, God has given
00:32:12.06\00:32:14.03
the Seventh-day Adventist church
00:32:14.06\00:32:15.40
a very wonderful understanding
00:32:15.43\00:32:16.87
of the great
controversy message.
00:32:16.90\00:32:19.33
And our
doctrines are really based
00:32:19.37\00:32:21.24
on this understanding of,
00:32:21.27\00:32:22.94
first God is love and
then also the idea that
00:32:22.97\00:32:26.68
there is this great
controversy taking place.
00:32:26.71\00:32:30.08
You know in the postmodern age,
00:32:30.11\00:32:35.18
the idea is not to take
history as a meta narrative
00:32:35.22\00:32:39.75
but more to look at, you
know, different cultures,
00:32:39.79\00:32:41.59
or different events in
isolation of the others.
00:32:41.62\00:32:45.66
But as Adventist, we
understand that history
00:32:45.69\00:32:48.90
is set in the context
of the great controversy.
00:32:48.93\00:32:51.37
And so we have that
foundation of a meta narrative
00:32:51.40\00:32:53.90
that we need to
present to our viewers.
00:32:53.94\00:32:56.30
And so really the first
video is going to be on,
00:32:56.34\00:32:59.67
you know, what about
things that's happened
00:32:59.71\00:33:01.04
or what is really going on?
00:33:01.08\00:33:02.71
And it's laying the
foundation of the meta narrative
00:33:02.74\00:33:04.85
and the great controversy theme
00:33:04.88\00:33:07.12
throughout history
and throughout the Bible.
00:33:07.15\00:33:08.88
Great stuff. Great stuff.
00:33:08.92\00:33:11.35
Where is the furthest place
00:33:11.39\00:33:12.72
that you've gotten
a response to someone
00:33:12.75\00:33:15.06
who are watching your
material that you've uploaded?
00:33:15.09\00:33:17.43
The farthest response...
00:33:17.46\00:33:19.86
On planet earth.
00:33:19.89\00:33:21.23
Oh, farthest
response on planet earth.
00:33:21.26\00:33:22.96
Well...
00:33:23.00\00:33:24.33
Hopefully it
was on planet earth.
00:33:24.37\00:33:26.63
I just want to make
sure we're on planet earth.
00:33:26.67\00:33:28.24
Yeah, I don't think.
00:33:28.27\00:33:29.60
I don't think
people admires logging on
00:33:29.64\00:33:31.04
to social media...
00:33:31.07\00:33:33.04
No, but really we get responses
from all over the place.
00:33:33.07\00:33:37.18
We got a comment on our website
from Africa the other day.
00:33:37.21\00:33:43.05
We've gotten, like I
said we've gotten views
00:33:43.08\00:33:45.39
to our online content
from all over the world.
00:33:45.42\00:33:49.46
And so, you know,
people in different continents
00:33:49.49\00:33:51.56
have been sharing that
they have been blessed.
00:33:51.59\00:33:53.16
Praise the Lord.
00:33:53.19\00:33:54.53
And I asked them
because I'm impressed
00:33:54.56\00:33:55.90
by, I mean, there's
only 24 hours in a day,
00:33:55.93\00:33:58.10
you got to do school,
00:33:58.13\00:33:59.47
I mean, just
straight school, school.
00:33:59.50\00:34:01.24
Then I know what it
is to prepare sermons,
00:34:01.27\00:34:03.57
you know, that's time and work.
00:34:03.61\00:34:05.91
Then if you get
any Internet response,
00:34:05.94\00:34:09.08
you may want to answer
them with their questions,
00:34:09.11\00:34:11.65
if there is
problems, or praying with them,
00:34:11.68\00:34:13.65
so your days must be fairly full
00:34:13.68\00:34:17.05
with activity for the Lord.
00:34:17.09\00:34:18.42
Yes.
00:34:18.45\00:34:19.79
We mostly do our
work on weekends.
00:34:19.82\00:34:21.16
Yes.
00:34:21.19\00:34:22.52
But 'cause, you know, during
the week like you mentioned,
00:34:22.56\00:34:24.09
we have school and we also
00:34:24.13\00:34:26.16
are actively
involved in our church
00:34:26.19\00:34:28.03
so, you know, it's really busy
but it's a good kind of busy.
00:34:28.06\00:34:32.13
It's a good kind of busy.
00:34:32.17\00:34:33.77
You know they say that,
00:34:33.80\00:34:35.14
"Idle hands are
the devil's workshop."
00:34:35.17\00:34:36.84
Yes, indeed.
00:34:36.87\00:34:38.67
So the Lord has
kept us busy for Him.
00:34:38.71\00:34:41.68
Working on music ministry
at our church, media ministry,
00:34:41.71\00:34:45.65
you know, getting the church,
00:34:45.68\00:34:47.02
you know, we actually
run the church website
00:34:47.05\00:34:49.38
with the live
streaming and everything.
00:34:49.42\00:34:51.39
And, you know, it's really busy
00:34:51.42\00:34:56.02
but we find, we
make time to work
00:34:56.06\00:34:58.49
for the Lord
through this ministry,
00:34:58.53\00:35:00.30
Shining Light Media Ministry.
00:35:00.33\00:35:01.96
And especially with
the Penaranda family,
00:35:02.00\00:35:05.13
they've moved
to the Philippines.
00:35:05.17\00:35:06.94
They moved to the
Philippines in 2016.
00:35:06.97\00:35:10.67
And so, you know,
that's kind of changed the way
00:35:10.71\00:35:13.38
we work together
00:35:13.41\00:35:15.54
because of, you
know, the barriers in time,
00:35:15.58\00:35:17.65
and the Internet,
and distance, yes.
00:35:17.68\00:35:20.48
But the Lord is
still been blessing,
00:35:20.52\00:35:21.95
they're still working
for God where they are
00:35:21.98\00:35:23.92
and we're working
for God where we are.
00:35:23.95\00:35:26.29
You know, we do
correspondence over email
00:35:26.32\00:35:29.56
and, you know, we communicate,
and make plans, and strategies,
00:35:29.59\00:35:33.29
and when they
come to visit we work,
00:35:33.33\00:35:35.70
we spend a lot of
time to work together
00:35:35.73\00:35:37.50
on our projects, so.
00:35:37.53\00:35:38.87
Let me ask you this
00:35:38.90\00:35:40.24
because your
excitement is infectious.
00:35:40.27\00:35:44.57
Are you aware of or do
00:35:44.61\00:35:46.41
you know, excuse
me, any young people
00:35:46.44\00:35:48.74
that have maybe caught
the burden that you have,
00:35:48.78\00:35:51.55
and sort of got that flame
00:35:51.58\00:35:52.91
that you have
that is sort of driving
00:35:52.95\00:35:54.28
at this point of your life,
00:35:54.32\00:35:55.65
has it begun to
hit critical mass
00:35:55.68\00:35:57.65
and kind of spread a little bit?
00:35:57.69\00:36:00.39
Well, we are praying
that the Lord will provide
00:36:00.42\00:36:02.66
more young people to assist us
who are as committed as we are,
00:36:02.69\00:36:07.53
and even more to
assist us in this work.
00:36:07.56\00:36:11.20
We have been teaming
up with other young people
00:36:11.23\00:36:13.17
from our church to
provide music ministry.
00:36:13.20\00:36:16.64
You know, we go
to the nursing homes
00:36:16.67\00:36:18.01
and we, you know, provide
music for the residents there.
00:36:18.04\00:36:22.11
It's been a blessing.
00:36:22.14\00:36:23.48
And so what we're
really trying to do
00:36:23.51\00:36:25.01
is we are trying to train up
00:36:25.05\00:36:26.38
other young
people in our church,
00:36:26.41\00:36:29.08
you know, to see things
from God's perspective...
00:36:29.12\00:36:33.72
Yes.
00:36:33.76\00:36:35.09
And to have that commitment
to spreading God's message.
00:36:35.12\00:36:38.09
Praise the Lord.
00:36:38.13\00:36:39.46
Have you, either of you sing
00:36:39.49\00:36:41.00
or you just
piano, play the piano?
00:36:41.03\00:36:43.93
Piano for now. Piano for now.
00:36:43.97\00:36:45.57
Sometimes we
will sing another day.
00:36:45.60\00:36:46.94
I got you under the
nerve, I saw that laugh.
00:36:46.97\00:36:51.37
Sometimes if it really
comes down to it, I'll sing.
00:36:51.41\00:36:54.11
But I've been
kind of teasing him
00:36:54.14\00:36:56.61
and saying, "Hey, you
should sing sometimes."
00:36:56.64\00:36:59.08
So usually, your appeals
are, you making the appeal
00:36:59.11\00:37:01.75
and Samuel just playing for you.
00:37:01.78\00:37:03.12
Yes.
00:37:03.15\00:37:04.49
If you needed to,
00:37:04.52\00:37:05.85
you could play for
yourself though, correct?
00:37:05.89\00:37:07.22
Yes. All right.
00:37:07.26\00:37:08.59
Who is the more, and I
won't say better pianist
00:37:08.62\00:37:09.96
'cause I don't want to
get into sibling rivalry,
00:37:09.99\00:37:13.09
but who is the more
advanced pianist at this point?
00:37:13.13\00:37:17.10
Well, since we
started at the same time,
00:37:17.13\00:37:19.13
we are pretty much
at about the same level.
00:37:19.17\00:37:21.77
He says, "I am
better at composing."
00:37:21.80\00:37:23.27
I say, "He is better
at playing for church."
00:37:23.30\00:37:26.57
So, that kind of a...
00:37:26.61\00:37:27.94
Okay, so it's a love fest,
00:37:27.98\00:37:29.44
it's kind of a corporate things
so we praise the Lord for that.
00:37:29.48\00:37:31.51
I think he has,
00:37:31.55\00:37:32.88
God blessed Samuel
with a bit more creativity
00:37:32.91\00:37:34.32
when it comes to music
and the chords and everything.
00:37:34.35\00:37:37.35
I play mainly for the,
00:37:37.39\00:37:38.85
you know, congregational singing
00:37:38.89\00:37:40.22
in our service.
00:37:40.26\00:37:41.59
But Samuel's been coming up
with arrangements and things,
00:37:41.62\00:37:44.49
and one of my favorite...
00:37:44.53\00:37:46.73
among my favorite experiences
are when he plays a piano
00:37:46.76\00:37:51.07
for special
music before I preach.
00:37:51.10\00:37:53.47
You know, it really sets me
00:37:53.50\00:37:54.84
in that frame of
mind in service to God.
00:37:54.87\00:37:58.17
Do you know
00:37:58.21\00:37:59.54
what your brother sort of likes,
00:37:59.57\00:38:01.01
you have an idea
00:38:01.04\00:38:02.38
the kind of
things that he likes,
00:38:02.41\00:38:03.85
or you just kind of wink
and pray that the Lord...
00:38:03.88\00:38:07.25
You said to correct here.
00:38:07.28\00:38:09.02
I hear it a lot of
times before we go.
00:38:09.05\00:38:12.89
It doesn't happen
because, you know,
00:38:12.92\00:38:14.52
we're in the same
house so eventually,
00:38:14.56\00:38:16.49
he will hear when you practice.
00:38:16.52\00:38:18.29
Okay, so you're
not totally surprised.
00:38:18.33\00:38:20.20
Praise the
Lord. Yes, definitely.
00:38:20.23\00:38:22.43
It's great. So you try to...
00:38:22.46\00:38:23.83
You try to match your
music to what the sermon,
00:38:23.87\00:38:25.87
obviously what the
sermon is all about.
00:38:25.90\00:38:28.40
Yes. Yeah. Praise the Lord.
00:38:28.44\00:38:30.11
Praise the Lord.
00:38:30.14\00:38:31.81
Does any particular
00:38:31.84\00:38:35.18
presentation of yours
stand out in your mind
00:38:35.21\00:38:37.68
when you were
particularly used by the Lord?
00:38:37.71\00:38:39.98
Is there any sort
of particular blessing
00:38:40.02\00:38:42.95
that you can
recount or recall of a time
00:38:42.98\00:38:45.49
when you stepped in the desk
00:38:45.52\00:38:47.19
and the Lord
used in a mighty way,
00:38:47.22\00:38:48.72
or some life was changed,
00:38:48.76\00:38:50.09
or you getting
reports of anything like that?
00:38:50.13\00:38:54.40
Well, that's a
tough question to answer
00:38:54.43\00:38:56.20
because, you know,
the Lord works every time.
00:38:56.23\00:38:58.60
But, you know, I
remember a few weeks ago,
00:38:58.63\00:39:03.61
I was preaching
at my home church
00:39:03.64\00:39:04.97
like I mentioned
earlier about Daniel 2.
00:39:05.01\00:39:07.04
Our Pathfinder club is doing
the Pathfinder Bible experience
00:39:07.08\00:39:09.28
and they're going
through the Book of Daniel,
00:39:09.31\00:39:11.85
and we're helping to coach
00:39:11.88\00:39:13.31
'cause we're
Pathfinders as well.
00:39:13.35\00:39:15.78
But I was preaching on Daniel 2,
00:39:15.82\00:39:17.85
and so I was going
through the different metals
00:39:17.89\00:39:22.12
in the image and
explain different things.
00:39:22.16\00:39:24.86
My mother observed
00:39:24.89\00:39:26.23
that even, you
know, the smallest,
00:39:26.26\00:39:27.73
the youngest Pathfinders
00:39:27.76\00:39:29.10
like what,
eight, nine years old,
00:39:29.13\00:39:30.87
they were, their
attention was focused.
00:39:30.90\00:39:32.93
And so, you know,
00:39:32.97\00:39:36.07
I praise the
Lord for that ability
00:39:36.10\00:39:37.87
because, you know,
00:39:37.91\00:39:41.24
when I prepare my
sermons I try to think,
00:39:41.28\00:39:43.04
you know, is this
going to be appreciated
00:39:43.08\00:39:47.02
by the even younger
audience that will be listening.
00:39:47.05\00:39:51.22
But I'm amazed at
the way the Lord works.
00:39:51.25\00:39:55.62
Like I mentioned
00:39:55.66\00:39:56.99
the younger ones
are, were listening,
00:39:57.03\00:39:58.36
there were paying attention,
00:39:58.39\00:40:00.10
and one of the
mothers in the church shared
00:40:00.13\00:40:01.60
with me afterwards
00:40:01.63\00:40:02.96
that during the sermon,
you know, her daughter said,
00:40:03.00\00:40:06.17
"You know, I
want to go to heaven.
00:40:06.20\00:40:07.54
I want to be in God's kingdom."
00:40:07.57\00:40:09.34
And even the older
members of our church,
00:40:09.37\00:40:15.51
I remember there was this couple
00:40:15.54\00:40:16.88
that approached me
afterwards and said,
00:40:16.91\00:40:18.25
"You know, we had a Bible study
00:40:18.28\00:40:19.61
at our church a few weeks,
at our home a few weeks ago.
00:40:19.65\00:40:22.65
And Daniel 2
was being explained,
00:40:22.68\00:40:24.95
and we really didn't get it
00:40:24.99\00:40:26.96
but this sermon really
opened our minds about that."
00:40:26.99\00:40:29.59
And, you know, I was amazed,
00:40:29.62\00:40:30.96
you know, how
that the Lord will use
00:40:30.99\00:40:32.49
a 16 year old to try to explain
00:40:32.53\00:40:34.20
these things to
people of different ages,
00:40:34.23\00:40:36.77
you know, it's amazing
00:40:36.80\00:40:38.13
how the Lord works,
and it's very powerful.
00:40:38.17\00:40:40.67
I think you can pick up
00:40:40.70\00:40:42.04
the gospel to
understand gospel truths
00:40:42.07\00:40:43.64
from anyone at any
age if your mind is right.
00:40:43.67\00:40:46.51
Having said that, I do believe
00:40:46.54\00:40:48.38
that young
people hear the gospel
00:40:48.41\00:40:50.81
through young lips
in a different way.
00:40:50.85\00:40:53.72
I don't have any illusions
00:40:53.75\00:40:55.08
that a person in my age bracket
00:40:55.12\00:40:58.29
could be as effective tool,
00:40:58.32\00:40:59.72
a teenager as a
committed teenager could be.
00:40:59.75\00:41:02.92
First of all, you just,
you got shared experiences
00:41:02.96\00:41:05.49
and the gospel just
comes out a little differently,
00:41:05.53\00:41:08.13
you know, when
you're at that age,
00:41:08.16\00:41:10.83
so praise the Lord for that.
00:41:10.87\00:41:12.73
We've got some
pictures and some videos.
00:41:12.77\00:41:14.44
I want you to set up this
video that we were going to see.
00:41:14.47\00:41:17.64
Just now tell us
what we're going to see.
00:41:17.67\00:41:19.07
The video that
we're about to play
00:41:19.11\00:41:20.51
is I think a four minute segment
00:41:20.54\00:41:22.01
from the video about
the Protestant Reformation
00:41:22.04\00:41:25.68
that we shared,
you know, in 2017,
00:41:25.71\00:41:31.05
and so, I mean, so
it's about four minutes.
00:41:31.09\00:41:33.32
The video, the full video,
it's about ten minutes long,
00:41:33.36\00:41:36.12
it's on YouTube.
00:41:36.16\00:41:37.49
If you go to our website
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.org,
00:41:37.53\00:41:40.63
you can scroll
down and the videos,
00:41:40.66\00:41:42.66
you can watch a video there.
00:41:42.70\00:41:44.07
But it starts off with going
00:41:44.10\00:41:47.17
through the
life of Martin Luther
00:41:47.20\00:41:48.87
and what led him to that point
00:41:48.90\00:41:50.41
where he nailed the 95 theses
on the door of the church.
00:41:50.44\00:41:54.31
And then it
takes it a bit further
00:41:54.34\00:41:56.34
and talks about the significance
00:41:56.38\00:41:58.81
of the Reformation
in not only history
00:41:58.85\00:42:01.05
but also in our
Christian experiences.
00:42:01.08\00:42:03.02
So we'll play about
four minutes of that.
00:42:03.05\00:42:04.52
Praise the Lord.
Let's take a look.
00:42:04.55\00:42:05.92
The church was in darkness.
00:42:14.83\00:42:19.23
The Book of Truth had
been eclipsed by tradition.
00:42:19.27\00:42:23.04
It was a time when
holding a Bible meant torture,
00:42:23.07\00:42:25.97
imprisonment, or even death.
00:42:26.01\00:42:29.31
Church leaders became
only source of authority
00:42:29.34\00:42:32.75
in spiritual matters,
00:42:32.78\00:42:34.55
to seek pardon and
forgiveness a person
00:42:34.58\00:42:37.32
have to confess
his sins to the priest.
00:42:37.35\00:42:40.36
Church members sometimes
have to pay large sums of money
00:42:40.39\00:42:43.83
to ensure that they
00:42:43.86\00:42:45.19
or a loved one to go
straight to heaven at death.
00:42:45.23\00:42:48.73
Refusal to agree with
church policy resulted
00:42:48.76\00:42:51.90
in being excommunicated.
00:42:51.93\00:42:54.54
According to church teaching,
00:42:54.57\00:42:56.27
heresy was
grounds for consignment
00:42:56.30\00:42:58.41
to the flames of an
everlasting burning hell.
00:42:58.44\00:43:02.34
Month after
month, year after year,
00:43:02.38\00:43:04.85
and decade after decade passed,
00:43:04.88\00:43:07.22
the church
remaining in its cold,
00:43:07.25\00:43:09.15
dark state until one
man dare to take a stand.
00:43:09.18\00:43:13.66
In Luther's time,
00:43:17.46\00:43:18.93
a church official
named Johann Tetzel,
00:43:18.96\00:43:21.56
began selling indulgences,
00:43:21.60\00:43:23.63
special
certificates from the pope
00:43:23.67\00:43:25.73
that promised
reduction of time in purgatory,
00:43:25.77\00:43:28.80
which was a place of torture
00:43:28.84\00:43:30.27
that prepared
the cease Christians
00:43:30.31\00:43:31.94
to enter heaven.
00:43:31.97\00:43:33.98
Martin Luther
rejected this notion
00:43:34.01\00:43:35.78
that people could
buy their way into heaven
00:43:35.81\00:43:38.38
by paying certain sums of money.
00:43:38.41\00:43:40.95
In response to
Tetzel's sale of indulgences,
00:43:40.98\00:43:44.19
Luther wrote a
list of 95 debatable
00:43:44.22\00:43:46.86
these statements
that outlined the areas
00:43:46.89\00:43:50.03
in which he
disagreed with church teachings
00:43:50.06\00:43:52.03
and policy regarding salvation
and forgiveness of sins.
00:43:52.06\00:43:56.16
Then on the eve
of All Saints Day,
00:43:56.20\00:43:59.13
Martin Luther
nailed these propositions
00:43:59.17\00:44:01.77
to the door of
the All Saints Church
00:44:01.80\00:44:04.01
in Wittenberg, Germany.
00:44:04.04\00:44:06.44
These 95 theses
were quickly translated
00:44:06.47\00:44:09.44
from Latin to German
00:44:09.48\00:44:11.55
and were distributed
all throughout Germany.
00:44:11.58\00:44:15.28
News of Luther, his beliefs,
and his writings soon reached
00:44:15.32\00:44:18.95
to the ears of
leading church officials,
00:44:18.99\00:44:21.62
including the pope himself.
00:44:21.66\00:44:24.86
After three years of attempts
to root out Luther's teachings
00:44:24.89\00:44:28.80
through
intimidation, debate, and trial,
00:44:28.83\00:44:32.00
the pope issued a special order
00:44:32.03\00:44:34.17
or papal bull
that threatened Luther
00:44:34.20\00:44:37.24
with excommunication
00:44:37.27\00:44:38.97
unless he recanted
some of his teachings.
00:44:39.01\00:44:42.44
Luther responded to this act
00:44:42.48\00:44:44.21
with a public
burning of the papal bull.
00:44:44.25\00:44:47.42
In January of
the following year,
00:44:47.45\00:44:49.48
he was
excommunicated from the church.
00:44:49.52\00:44:52.22
Martin Luther's influence led
00:44:55.62\00:44:57.33
to the beginning of
the Protestant Reformation,
00:44:57.36\00:45:00.53
a movement that began
00:45:00.56\00:45:01.90
with the object
of leading Christians
00:45:01.93\00:45:04.47
back to the
truths of God's work,
00:45:04.50\00:45:06.74
which had been
obscured in the tradition
00:45:06.77\00:45:08.40
from dogmas of the
church throughout the dark ages.
00:45:08.44\00:45:12.31
Some prominent
men in this movement
00:45:12.34\00:45:14.14
who became known as Reformers
00:45:14.18\00:45:16.44
were men such as
Philip Melanchthon,
00:45:16.48\00:45:19.01
a colleague of Luther.
00:45:19.05\00:45:20.75
John Calvin
reformed the doctrines held
00:45:20.78\00:45:22.95
by the Presbyterian Church,
and John Knox among others.
00:45:22.98\00:45:27.99
Though these men
differed somewhat
00:45:28.02\00:45:29.72
in the details of
their belief systems,
00:45:29.76\00:45:32.63
they held two
important truths in common,
00:45:32.66\00:45:35.76
the authority of the
Scriptures and salvation
00:45:35.80\00:45:38.53
by faith in Jesus Christ.
00:45:38.57\00:45:41.97
These truths have been believed
00:45:42.00\00:45:43.67
and understood by men and women
earlier on in the dark ages,
00:45:43.71\00:45:48.28
such as the Waldenses,
00:45:48.31\00:45:49.84
who practice
their faith in the Alps.
00:45:49.88\00:45:52.31
And early reformer
00:45:52.35\00:45:53.68
such as John
Wycliffe and John Huss.
00:45:53.72\00:45:56.42
In the early
years of Protestantism,
00:45:56.45\00:45:59.02
Bible believing Christians
often taste severe persecution
00:45:59.05\00:46:03.49
and in the worse cases, death.
00:46:03.53\00:46:07.40
They endured, they
suffered, they gave their lives
00:46:07.43\00:46:10.53
because they would
not recant their beliefs.
00:46:10.57\00:46:13.90
They dared to take a stand,
00:46:13.94\00:46:15.74
their foundation
being the holy Word of God.
00:46:15.77\00:46:19.21
The Christian world is indebted
to these faithful men and women
00:46:19.24\00:46:23.28
who stood in defense of truth.
00:46:23.31\00:46:28.78
Well done.
00:46:28.82\00:46:30.15
Good video work and
good voiceover work.
00:46:30.19\00:46:34.72
It's collaborative effort.
00:46:34.76\00:46:36.22
Do you guys both
do a little editing
00:46:36.26\00:46:37.86
and a little video work?
00:46:37.89\00:46:39.79
Yes. Okay, even
the renaissance men.
00:46:39.83\00:46:41.60
He actually wrote
00:46:41.63\00:46:42.96
the musical score
for the video, so.
00:46:43.00\00:46:45.43
Yeah, we used
some location device
00:46:45.47\00:46:46.97
and exploited it, so we
got it all the instruments
00:46:47.00\00:46:49.47
sounding together.
00:46:49.50\00:46:50.84
Yeah, he was doing more
of the main video editing,
00:46:50.87\00:46:53.64
like the
cutting, and the splicing,
00:46:53.68\00:46:55.81
and then he did the recording.
00:46:55.84\00:46:58.55
He recorded his
voice for the video.
00:46:58.58\00:47:01.35
Excellent. Excellent.
Well done. Very well done.
00:47:01.38\00:47:04.72
I saw in the pictures
you had a chance to speak
00:47:04.75\00:47:07.42
at the General Conference.
00:47:07.46\00:47:09.26
Yes, the General
Conference invited us.
00:47:09.29\00:47:10.63
How did you get that invitation?
00:47:10.66\00:47:12.06
Well, in September of 2015,
00:47:12.09\00:47:15.20
a software developer
at the General Conference,
00:47:15.23\00:47:17.17
Brother Ean Nugent.
00:47:17.20\00:47:19.30
He visited our church and
learned about our ministry
00:47:19.33\00:47:21.24
from the Penaranda family.
00:47:21.27\00:47:22.94
And he soon extended
an invitation for Joshua,
00:47:22.97\00:47:27.74
the older son and me to
speak for a morning devotional
00:47:27.78\00:47:31.51
at the General
Conference headquarters.
00:47:31.55\00:47:32.88
Now, Joshua's is
his older son. Yes.
00:47:32.91\00:47:34.58
His older son. Okay.
00:47:34.62\00:47:37.05
And so in November of 2015,
00:47:37.09\00:47:38.89
we actually went
and gave the devotional.
00:47:38.92\00:47:41.66
And we actually had
the opportunity afterwards
00:47:41.69\00:47:44.36
to meet several wonderful
00:47:44.39\00:47:45.73
and committed
leaders of our church,
00:47:45.76\00:47:47.16
including the
late Elder C.D. Brooks.
00:47:47.20\00:47:49.53
Yes, and we've been inspired
00:47:49.56\00:47:50.90
by his example of
committed service to God.
00:47:50.93\00:47:54.04
But yes, God has been providing
many wonderful opportunities,
00:47:54.07\00:47:56.54
including this opportunity
at the General Conference.
00:47:56.57\00:47:59.01
Praise the Lord.
00:47:59.04\00:48:00.38
Now did we see
the second picture,
00:48:00.41\00:48:01.74
I don't know, I was
kind of focusing on you.
00:48:01.78\00:48:04.55
We do, we show
them both. Yes and so.
00:48:04.58\00:48:07.95
Now, who's the
young man in the glasses?
00:48:07.98\00:48:11.65
The young man in the
glasses, that's Joshua.
00:48:11.69\00:48:13.52
Oh, that's, okay.
He is a young fellow.
00:48:13.56\00:48:15.42
Yes. Yes.
00:48:15.46\00:48:16.86
We were, I think
14 and 13 at the time.
00:48:16.89\00:48:19.23
At the time.
Wow, bless his heart.
00:48:19.26\00:48:21.73
Yeah.
00:48:21.76\00:48:23.10
Did you get a lot
of good affirmation
00:48:23.13\00:48:24.47
from the brethren there?
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Yes, we did. Yeah.
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They love to
encourage young preachers.
00:48:27.24\00:48:28.57
Yes. They really,
really, really do.
00:48:28.60\00:48:32.51
The Reformation series
is on YouTube right now,
00:48:32.54\00:48:36.64
something we can see now.
00:48:36.68\00:48:38.51
Not the Reformation series,
but the Reformation video.
00:48:38.55\00:48:40.72
The Reformation video, okay.
00:48:40.75\00:48:42.08
So the Reformation series
is something that's coming up?
00:48:42.12\00:48:44.22
No, we actually did
00:48:44.25\00:48:45.59
that at our church
in November of 2017.
00:48:45.62\00:48:48.09
Oh, okay. All right.
00:48:48.12\00:48:49.59
You know, following
the release of the video,
00:48:49.62\00:48:51.83
we began promoting
this Reformation series
00:48:51.86\00:48:53.83
at our church.
00:48:53.86\00:48:55.20
Oh, I see. Okay.
00:48:55.23\00:48:56.56
And so, you
know, we had visitors
00:48:56.60\00:48:58.50
who came and
attended, and they expressed
00:48:58.53\00:49:00.57
that they were
blessed by the series.
00:49:00.60\00:49:02.40
Praise the Lord.
You did the preaching?
00:49:02.44\00:49:03.94
Yes. How long was the series?
00:49:03.97\00:49:05.44
It was a weekend, so
it was Friday, Sabbath,
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and Sunday evening.
00:49:08.98\00:49:11.21
Sometimes we joke around
00:49:11.25\00:49:13.35
or not really
joke around but we...
00:49:13.38\00:49:15.62
I like the fact
that we should have
00:49:15.65\00:49:17.32
done Sunday's meeting
00:49:17.35\00:49:18.69
on Sabbath morning
when most people were there.
00:49:18.72\00:49:22.06
You just did nightly
meetings for that time.
00:49:22.09\00:49:24.23
Well, we did Friday
night, Sabbath morning,
00:49:24.26\00:49:27.63
and Sunday evening.
00:49:27.66\00:49:29.00
And Sunday evening. Okay, okay.
00:49:29.03\00:49:30.37
So, yeah, to
accommodate schedules.
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Praise the Lord.
00:49:31.77\00:49:33.10
And so we hope to do
00:49:33.13\00:49:34.47
more public
evangelism in the future.
00:49:34.50\00:49:36.30
If invitations come,
00:49:36.34\00:49:39.57
are you able to get out
and do some preaching around?
00:49:39.61\00:49:44.08
Well, depending
on the invitations
00:49:44.11\00:49:46.41
we have to, you know, coordinate
00:49:46.45\00:49:48.02
with our schedule and say,
00:49:48.05\00:49:49.38
"Okay, you know, we
had school this week."
00:49:49.42\00:49:51.72
But, you know, we're willing
to go wherever God sends us.
00:49:51.75\00:49:56.52
Praise the Lord.
00:49:56.56\00:49:57.89
And so you can, for our
viewers you can contact us
00:49:57.93\00:50:00.86
at our website
ShiningLightMediaMinistry.org.
00:50:00.90\00:50:04.17
There is a contact
page and you can...
00:50:04.20\00:50:07.10
If you want to invite us
00:50:07.14\00:50:08.47
to come to your
church or events,
00:50:08.50\00:50:10.21
you can specify
that in a special form
00:50:10.24\00:50:13.38
that we have
included on our website.
00:50:13.41\00:50:14.74
Praise the Lord.
00:50:14.78\00:50:16.11
I'm glad you said,
"We" because at this point
00:50:16.14\00:50:18.01
since you guys
are still so young,
00:50:18.05\00:50:19.51
we means mom and
dad or at least dad.
00:50:19.55\00:50:22.98
It is truly a "we"
00:50:23.02\00:50:25.49
because somebody's
got to be the chauffeur.
00:50:25.52\00:50:27.49
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:50:27.52\00:50:28.86
Where are some of the
places, I guess mostly
00:50:28.89\00:50:30.26
the north middle Atlantic States
00:50:30.29\00:50:32.76
is kind of pretty
much where you've been,
00:50:32.79\00:50:35.36
you know, so far.
00:50:35.40\00:50:36.73
We still live in Georgia,
00:50:36.77\00:50:38.10
and so preach
at several churches
00:50:38.13\00:50:39.70
in Georgia and Chattanooga,
00:50:39.73\00:50:41.80
did a week of prayer
at a school in Georgia.
00:50:41.84\00:50:43.77
Oh, praise the Lord.
00:50:43.81\00:50:45.67
And then now that
we moved to Virginia,
00:50:45.71\00:50:47.64
we get more
invitations in Virginia,
00:50:47.68\00:50:49.78
Maryland sort of area.
00:50:49.81\00:50:51.35
One time I had the offer,
00:50:51.38\00:50:52.71
a few times I had
the opportunity to preach
00:50:52.75\00:50:54.38
with my grandfather in Jamaica,
00:50:54.42\00:50:56.62
and so, those are
wonderful experiences.
00:50:56.65\00:50:58.52
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:50:58.55\00:51:00.32
I am going to
ask you in our time
00:51:00.36\00:51:02.22
that remains before
we go to our newsbreak
00:51:02.26\00:51:04.39
and then we got a
little close out time.
00:51:04.43\00:51:07.50
Samuel in particular, what is,
and this is one of those kind
00:51:07.53\00:51:09.93
of high concept
ontological questions
00:51:09.96\00:51:11.80
we have every now and again.
00:51:11.83\00:51:13.17
The intersection for both of you
00:51:13.20\00:51:15.60
since you play of
performance and ministry,
00:51:15.64\00:51:19.94
is there room for
performance in ministry?
00:51:19.97\00:51:22.51
Is there room for
ministry in performance?
00:51:22.54\00:51:25.05
You know where I'm getting at.
00:51:25.08\00:51:26.51
Is that when you sit down
to play, is that performance,
00:51:26.55\00:51:31.19
is it ministry, is it
both, is it one or the other?
00:51:31.22\00:51:35.82
I would say it's
ministry. It's ministry.
00:51:35.86\00:51:37.53
Yeah, because you see,
00:51:37.56\00:51:39.69
through the aid
of piano teachers
00:51:39.73\00:51:42.36
and even our parents,
God shows us which songs
00:51:42.40\00:51:46.23
we have to play
for a different events
00:51:46.27\00:51:48.37
and then He kind of
blesses us with the...
00:51:48.40\00:51:53.51
Skill The skill and
then the mindset needed
00:51:53.54\00:51:56.61
for each
particular event, you see.
00:51:56.64\00:52:00.12
You see for an appeal,
00:52:00.15\00:52:02.68
let's take for
instance an appeal,
00:52:02.72\00:52:04.69
you wouldn't be playing like you
00:52:04.72\00:52:06.05
would be playing a majestic song
00:52:06.09\00:52:07.42
for special music.
00:52:07.46\00:52:08.79
So there are different mindsets
you need to have and the Spirit
00:52:08.82\00:52:13.16
blesses you with all these
00:52:13.19\00:52:15.50
different mindsets and gives you
00:52:15.53\00:52:16.93
the right
impressions that you need.
00:52:16.97\00:52:18.97
Well said.
00:52:19.00\00:52:20.34
So you need to really
lock in with the Lord,
00:52:20.37\00:52:21.94
so that you can feel
00:52:21.97\00:52:23.30
what the Spirit is
trying to tell you,
00:52:23.34\00:52:24.67
what is appropriate
for that particular time
00:52:24.71\00:52:26.68
and that particular occasion.
00:52:26.71\00:52:29.34
Yes. Yeah. Praise the Lord.
00:52:29.38\00:52:31.45
We're going to
go to our newsbreak,
00:52:31.48\00:52:33.08
and then we're
going to come back
00:52:33.11\00:52:34.45
and sort of get
a closing thought
00:52:34.48\00:52:35.82
from these two young men.
00:52:35.85\00:52:37.19
Stay with us,
we'll be right back.
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