I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome
once again to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray.
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And allow me to thank
you once again for sharing
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just a little of
your busy day with us,
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to thank you as always
for your love, your prayers,
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your support of this ministry
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as together we
seek to warn the world,
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to encourage the
world to be ready
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for the second
coming of our Lord
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and Savior Jesus Christ.
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You will forgive me
today because I'm excited,
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yay, verily for a
couple of reasons.
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One, for the
company that I am in,
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and secondly, for
the subject matter
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that is the focus
of our program today.
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So if I'm a little
giddy, forgive me if you will.
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Because I happen to
like these people a lot.
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Sometimes you meet people,
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and from the first
time you meet them,
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you kind of like them,
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and you feel
you've known them forever
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because of a number of reasons.
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First of all, these are
all good Christian people.
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They're good-looking people.
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They're doing a
great work for the Lord.
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And I consider them all friends.
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I've brought Duane McKey
over to the host chair with me
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because he
brought his gang with him,
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we don't have
room for everybody.
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I brought, okay. Good.
They came. They all came.
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He is the president
of Adventist World Radio.
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And also, what is
the official TMI title
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that you do with...
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I'm the
assistant to Elder Wilson
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for Total Member
Involvement as well.
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Okay, okay. And in
your spare time...?
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Spare time...
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Kind of put together...
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Which you have none of really.
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Yeah, that's right, right.
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Put it all together,
let me call it AWR 360.
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All right. Praise the Lord.
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Completing the circle. Yeah.
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Let me say this, years
ago, there was a commercial,
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you may recall,
that when they rolled out
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the new automobiles.
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They were trying
to give it a new image
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'cause they always thought of it
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as a kind of an
old man's kind of car.
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Yeah. Yeah. Right.
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And they said, "This is
not your father's automobile."
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I remember that.
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You know, and so I'm thinking
this is not your father's AWR.
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This is kind of a new AWR.
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You know, this is not
your grandfather's AWR.
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You've gotten some new vision
and with us, wonderful team.
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You've come up
with some new things
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we're going to talk about today.
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So it's going to be
an exciting program.
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Let me introduce, he was saying
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how wonderful a team he has,
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and that's a good thing to hear.
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They are perfect.
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The first team member
actually doubles as his wife.
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Kathy McKey,
good to have you here.
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It's great to be here.
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Just a wonderful person. Amen.
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And well you got to
say that. I don't...
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I know I do on
TV but that's okay.
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Amen.
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I think he really believes that.
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I believe it.
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You've been
married how many years?
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Almost 50. Can you imagine that?
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Almost 50. So you
got married as children?
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Oh, she was just a tiny child.
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Well said, you're
picking up points too.
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And really, relatively recent
and dear friend, Sue Hinkle.
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Sue, good to have you here.
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Thank you. It's
great to be here.
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It's a privilege.
Yeah, we sort of hung out.
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I served under her
leadership in Romania last year.
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She was the team
leader. Oh, yeah. I remember.
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I remember that
well. Amen. Praise.
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And a really wonderful person.
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But your
position here at AWR is...
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Outreach Manager. Uh-huh.
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And we'll sort of dive into that
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what that means
in just a little bit.
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And Cami Oetman,
good to have you.
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Oetman or Oatman? Oetman.
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Oetman. So I had
it right? You did.
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I had the Cami part right.
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Praise the Lord.
And your position is...?
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Vice-president for Advancement,
Adventist World Radio.
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Okay, so you got
the gang with you.
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I have them, the
best. You ought to be proud.
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Praise the Lord.
The Lord blessed us.
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Praise the Lord.
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So we're going to be talk
about Adventist World Radio,
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some of the wonderful
things that it's doing.
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We were saying just backstage
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before we came on set
that even in these last days,
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God is using
radio in a marvelous
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and marked way to
help round out the circle,
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we talked about all
the electronic media,
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everybody's got
the iPads, iPhones,
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all of these kinds of
things, but radio still has
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a very, very
important part, doesn't it?
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It does. It
does. It's all apart.
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Yeah, and we are
reaching everything,
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all digital avenues.
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That's right. AWR
is. And praise the Lord.
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And when you think
Adventist World Radio,
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it should be
Adventist World Radio...
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because radio
does a lot of things
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under that umbrella of radio.
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That's right, yeah.
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We are expanding and expanding.
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It's fun,
exciting, thrilling. Yeah.
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I'm going to try
to stay out of the way
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and let these guys run
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because they've got
a lot to talk about.
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Cami, are you going to be
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kind of railroading
this, or it's my buddy here...
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Well, sure. Both of us together.
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Yeah, we're good. Okay. Okay.
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Sure, yeah Cami's gonna
share with us this exciting...
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She and Sue
actually were in California
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flying to North
to another state.
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And they were on this airplane,
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and it kind of gives an idea,
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I think, of what the
world that we live in today.
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Yes. The times in which we live.
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Yeah. So it's about 5 am.
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And we get on a
flight, and the Lord, you know,
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He sets up divine
appointments, doesn't He?
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And I get on the flight,
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and a very
distinguished English gentleman
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is sitting next to me.
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And we exchanged, you
know, pleasantries, and he said,
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"Oh, yes.
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I'm going to one of my
homes in the Colorado Rockies."
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And I said, "Oh." I said,
"God has really blessed you."
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And 'cause we were
sharing, he looked at me,
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and his whole body
bristled, and he said,
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"Mm, the Gods have blessed me?"
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Well, right then and there,
I knew we were going to have
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a fascinating conversation.
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Indeed.
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So I prayed for
the Lord's assistance,
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"Lord give me the
words," here we go.
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So this man, he
begins to tell me
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how since at a
young age in England,
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he has been
worshipping the goddess,
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the goddess appears to him,
we've known as an apparition,
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but appears to him and
has led him through life.
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Step by step, he has a
built a company out of nothing,
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without any
training of any kind,
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other than this
goddess telling him what to do,
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has built this
multimillion dollar company,
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and it's in software.
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And the whole reason he said
is to annihilate Christians.
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That caught my
attention. Indeed.
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He dare said so? Yes, he did.
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And I said, "Really?"
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And so he says, you
know, he says, you know,
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we've been
chatting and, you know.
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And we were actually
getting along quite well,
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even though we have
obvious differences, we were,
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you know, really exchanging.
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And, keep in mind
Sue is three seats ahead,
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and she can hear all
of this, and she's praying
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because she knows there was like
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a spiritual warfare going on.
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Yes. Yes. So and
thank you for that.
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You're welcome. This is my pal.
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And so I'm talking to
him, and he says, you know,
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"Christians are the enemy.
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That means that
you are my enemy."
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And he said,
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"I am a soldier
for the goddess."
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So I turned to him and
looked him right in the eyes,
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and I said, "I am a soldier
for the one and almighty God."
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So we started
talking about this,
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and he said, you know,
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"There is an end coming soon.
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My goddess is going to
be emerging from the earth."
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That was interesting to me
from the earth, not heaven.
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"But emerging from the earth
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and going to be
taking over soon."
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And I'm thinking to myself,
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"Wow, even, you
know, pagan worshippers,
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devil worshippers, know
that the end is coming."
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Yes. Yes. And they do.
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And so we're talking,
and he says, you know,
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"What I don't understand,"
as I'm sharing with him
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the Bible and
Jesus, and he's saying,
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"What I can't understand is that
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there is a glow
exuding from you.
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There is a light.
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And there is like this
core strength or something,
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and I'm trying to
wrap my mind around it."
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And I said, "It's
simple, that's Jesus."
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I said, "You
could have Him too."
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And he said, "I
don't know, Jesus...
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See, the goddess has gotten
rid of two of the three demons
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that are chasing me for years."
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And he says, "I
need the goddess."
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I said, "Oh, no."
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I said, "You will never
get rid of that third demon,"
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I said, "unless
you fall on your knees,
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and you ask God
almighty to take him from you.
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Just give Him a try."
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And he said, you know, I said,
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"I believe that we
crossed paths for a reason."
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I said, "Remember
this day and call on Him
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because there's coming a time
when you're going to need too."
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And he said, you
know, "I just don't know
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what to do with that."
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And I said, "Well,
I'll be praying for you."
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And he just was
so shocked that we,
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you know, that we were
having this conversation.
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And he said, you
know, "Really..."
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He didn't know, I said to him,
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you know, "The
endgame really is heaven.
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That's the endgame.
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You know, our goal,
we know as Christians
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that we are going to
be in Eden restored."
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He said, "What? Really?"
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You know, and I said,
"Well, what's your end game?"
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And he said, "I don't know.
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I've never asked
the goddess that.
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I've just been
doing step by step
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of what she's asked me to do."
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And I said, "You've
got to think about that.
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You've got to..."
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So, yes, pray that he reads
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the Great
Controversy and the Ephesus
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marked in there that we
had already talked about.
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So you left a book with him?
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Actually, I know his
name as we exchanged.
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I know the name of his company.
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So I would search
that, mail him there.
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Sue, what are you
thinking, you're hearing this
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conversation
going on behind you?
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What's going on in your mind?
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Well, I couldn't hear
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all of that was
being talked about,
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but I was
getting bits and pieces.
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And so I knew this was
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a serious
spiritual conversation.
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And so I'm just thinking,
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"I need to pray her through,
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you know, for the Holy Spirit
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to give her the words
to speak to this man."
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You know, I believe He did that.
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Yeah, and I think what triggered
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it is that I was
telling about my job,
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and how, you
know, the Christianity,
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and people are falling in love
with Jesus all over this world,
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the Holy Spirit
is being poured out.
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This is how I'm
starting our conversation
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and talking with him.
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And so he's
letting me know on his end,
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"Well, we're getting ready.
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We're planning to
annihilate all of you."
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And, you know, anyway,
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so we know that there
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is a great
controversy war going on.
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We know that.
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And we all need to wake up
and get ready and tell people,
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tell the world that
Jesus is coming soon.
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That's right. Stand up for Him.
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Be ready to stand up for
Him even on a 5 am flight.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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You know, sometimes
you just get a chance
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to just sort of sow the
seed and just it let it there.
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You know, you don't get
to land that Sunday puncher,
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read him to sinner's prayer,
and go through to all thing,
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you just plant the seed,
and then the Lord will water,
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takes care of the rest.
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So praise the
Lord, that's fantastic.
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See, you know, this last fall
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we had five
areas in North America,
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had AWR rallies.
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People who know
about AWR love us,
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you know, we go to...
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We have a 1,000 radio stations,
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we go where air
goes with no walls,
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no borders, no
limits, you heard that.
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But there are a lot of people
who have never heard of us.
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And so we've gone
around to a lot of churches,
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Sue organized all that.
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And, Sue, we
really appreciate that.
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We had fantastic
experience. Oh, it was great.
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And like you were saying,
during one of these rallies,
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Duane lifted up
his hand and said,
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"What do you
like best about AWR?"
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And what did they say?
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"Everything." "Everything."
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It is so exciting to be
partners with you at 3ABN
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because we know
you do the same thing.
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We have that same passion.
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Oh, yes. Same excitement.
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We were just in Portugal,
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I know this is
on down the script.
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But we were just in
Portugal, Kathy and I,
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that's where we started,
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and we're going to come
back to that in a minute.
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We started in Portugal
in 1971, is that right?
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But we'll talk about
the Steelers in a minute.
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But Kathy and I
we're just there,
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and we're talking
to the young people
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who are running
a new radio station
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they bought a number
of years ago in Portugal.
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Yeah, yeah. In Lisbon.
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A number of years ago.
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It was
thrilling to talk to them,
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and they said,
"We have a story."
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I said, "What's that?"
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"Well, we bought
this commercial station."
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And we just thought,
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"The government
want us to only use,
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do commercial broadcasting."
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And so we got the
union the union to buy it,
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and we had some
religious things,
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we were put in here and there.
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And then they said, you know,
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"After a number of
years, we started looking at it,
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and we realized that
we had not one baptism
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after all the
funding that church
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had put into
this radio station."
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Because it was secular
music, it was commercial,
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a little bit of
religious stuff in it.
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Okay, so they tried
to do a secular station
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and just put in a
little religious content?
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Yup, yup, yup.
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Because they thought
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that's what the government
wanted their enlistment.
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And finally, they said,
"Nah, it's not going to work.
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It's not working.
We're wasting our money."
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And so they
changed the whole format.
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They came in, and they started
preaching Adventist prophecy.
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Wow. Amen.
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Adventist Bible studies,
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Adventist health
message, Christian music only.
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So they went into deep end.
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Deep end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And in Portugal, it's
tough. It's very tough.
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One baptism per pastor per year.
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Wow.
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In the last three years,
just the radio, 20 baptisms.
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Amen. Praise God.
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Praise God. Yeah.
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When you stand up for the Lord,
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He does indeed stand up for you.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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He does, He does. That's right.
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That kind of
thinking. Yeah, praise the Lord.
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And, Kathy, we
were in Chattanooga?
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And out visiting donors,
we had a wonderful donors.
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We were.
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And it was amazing,
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we drove up to
this gentleman's house.
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He's outside with his
coat on and sweatshirt.
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And Duane said,
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"I'm the president of
Adventist World Radio,
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Duane Mckey, and
this is my wife, Kathy."
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And he said, "You know what,
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I just sent you
double the amount
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that I normally send to you."
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And he said, "The Lord
and I have an agreement."
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That touched my heart so much.
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The Lord and I have
an agreement, he said...
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Now remember, he is
outside with his coat on.
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Yeah, yeah. And sweatshirt.
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And sweatshirt.
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And he said... Praise the Lord.
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And he and his house is down.
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He said, "When my
electricity and gas bill
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are down to a certain point,
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then I send AWR double
of what I normally do."
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Isn't that amazing?
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The Lord and I
have an agreement.
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Yeah. We have precious donors.
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We have so many
people sacrificing.
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And this is one thing that
we've really enjoyed also about
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doing these rallies
around North America
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is when we're there,
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we can take the time to go
on and visit some of our donors.
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And we are
hearing stories like this
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just over and over and over.
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And it's great
to get the word out
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about what AWR is doing.
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And also another way
that we are doing that
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is we have 36 field reps,
or ambassadors, we call them,
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all across North
America and also into Canada.
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And these
people, our ambassadors,
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are getting
speaking appointments
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in the local churches.
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Praise the Lord.
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And so they're sharing
all these wonderful stories
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about what God is doing,
amazing things are happening.
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And we're just
trying to get the word out
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about what God is doing.
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Now some of these ambassadors
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are retired
ministers or the guys
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who've been in the work,
who just needs something to do,
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and it sort of caught the vision
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of what you're trying to do.
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Yeah, that's right.
You know, they're bored.
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I mean they wanted to
retire, and they said,
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"This is gonna be exciting."
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And they sit there
for six months and say,
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"I can't take this."
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Right.
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Very true.
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But can I mention, if
someone, one of our listeners,
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is interested in having
one of our representatives
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or ambassadors
come to your church,
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please email me, sue@awr.org.
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And we'll line
someone up to come out
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and visit with
you at your church.
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There was that story
that you were just telling me,
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Bob Peck, Dr.
Peck told us a story
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about one ambassador is
going to a birthday party?
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Yes, just got
this in two days ago.
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So there was this woman,
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she was getting ready
to have her 90th birthday.
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And they were
planning her party,
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and they thought, you know,
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"Instead of presents,
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why don't we give all
the guests that come in
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an AWR donation envelope.
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So as they come in the door,
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all the guests,
they get an envelope.
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In lieu of presents,
give a donation to AWR."
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And the whole family
thought it was wonderful.
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And so that's the plan,
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no gifts for the
90-year-old woman.
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They'll be
giving donations to AWR.
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And what did the
90-year-old woman
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need anyway, you know?
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You know what, she's
going to have gifts in heaven.
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Because it's people
that she... That's right.
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You know. That's right.
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That's right. Yeah.
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What I found...
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And I know you're
finding this too as you travel,
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and you meet your
donors, one doesn't give to get.
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That's right. No.
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You know, you know,
that's the wrong motive,
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but the truth is
when you give, you do get
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because that's God's initiative.
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That's His promise that,
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"If you support My
work, I'll support you."
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If you lift up Christ,
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Christ will take
care of your needs.
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And so many have found that
00:17:22.44\00:17:24.07
if I sacrifice to
support a ministry of God,
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the Lord takes care
of my day-to-day stuff.
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That's right. Yeah.
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You know, it happens,
and you're finding that.
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I used to tell my church members
00:17:31.95\00:17:33.28
and panels or our
pastors, I said, you know,
00:17:33.31\00:17:35.82
"God's scoop shovel
is bigger than yours."
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Precisely.
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You can scoop it in,
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He's going to scoop it back
up with a bigger scoop shovel.
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Yes, indeed, indeed.
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So praise the Lord,
that's great, that's great.
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How do you choose
the areas where you go?
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Do you go by
invitation only, Sue?
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Or do you kind of
target areas in the country?
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Do you mean for the
rallies? For the rallies, yeah.
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We target certain
areas, we like to go,
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especially where we
have a lot of donors
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so that they can
come together and see,
00:17:59.47\00:18:02.48
we can present to them
even more what AWR is doing.
00:18:02.51\00:18:06.11
But we're looking
at different areas
00:18:06.15\00:18:07.68
across North America,
00:18:07.72\00:18:09.88
and we'll have that up on
our website hopefully soon
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where our rallies
will be this fall.
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Duane, this seems
like kind of a new record.
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I don't ever remember AWR
being this present before.
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It seems like
you're really concentrating
00:18:22.43\00:18:24.90
on casting a vision
in a more public way
00:18:24.93\00:18:28.20
than perhaps ever before.
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You know, one of our
vice-presidents, Kent Sharpe,
00:18:30.44\00:18:33.78
who's been there seven
years, he is for finances.
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Actually, he's over
the Philippines right now.
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He's teaching cell
phone evangelism, right?
00:18:38.01\00:18:39.91
We have boots on the ground,
00:18:39.95\00:18:41.28
we can't get out in the
field which is exciting for us.
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And he said, you know, he said,
00:18:44.35\00:18:46.05
we're looking all the stuff
00:18:46.09\00:18:47.42
we're talking
about that's happening.
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We're talking more
about some of that,
00:18:48.82\00:18:50.16
and the cell phone evangelism,
00:18:50.19\00:18:51.53
the center for
digital evangelism
00:18:51.56\00:18:52.89
in the Philippines, et cetera.
00:18:52.93\00:18:54.26
And he said, "AWR used to be
00:18:54.30\00:18:55.93
kind of a
little sleepy ministry,
00:18:55.96\00:18:57.93
now all of a sudden,
00:18:57.97\00:18:59.70
it's mushroomed into
something worldwide."
00:18:59.73\00:19:01.67
And we are
international, it was.
00:19:01.70\00:19:03.64
But we're talking
about more and more
00:19:03.67\00:19:05.21
and sharing for our people
00:19:05.24\00:19:06.98
how they can help
and what we can do to...
00:19:07.01\00:19:09.28
Well, the reason is simple,
same reason you guys exist.
00:19:09.31\00:19:13.25
We're sick and
tired of the ball in mud.
00:19:13.28\00:19:14.85
Precisely.
00:19:14.88\00:19:16.22
We want Jesus to come. Amen.
00:19:16.25\00:19:17.59
And as we look at
what is happening,
00:19:17.62\00:19:18.95
just like Cami's
experience with a goddess guy.
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You know, Jesus is
coming soon. That's right.
00:19:22.06\00:19:23.76
The devils know it.
Very much aware, sure.
00:19:23.79\00:19:26.73
Let's proclaim it loud and
clear all around the world.
00:19:26.76\00:19:30.13
What excites me
about what you're doing,
00:19:30.17\00:19:31.63
first of all, your smiles says
00:19:31.67\00:19:33.13
that you're
full of your subject,
00:19:33.17\00:19:34.60
but we always knew, as
you said, AWR was there,
00:19:34.64\00:19:39.14
but we didn't get reports
a lot on what was happening.
00:19:39.17\00:19:41.51
And now that you've
pivoted in this idea of going
00:19:41.54\00:19:45.01
from Broadcast to Baptism,
00:19:45.05\00:19:46.48
which I love,
which is what we do,
00:19:46.51\00:19:49.08
you know, we go
from a preach sermon,
00:19:49.12\00:19:51.82
a dollar put in, to
a splash in the pool.
00:19:51.85\00:19:55.42
And there is a
logical connection.
00:19:55.46\00:19:57.03
That's right. I love that idea.
00:19:57.06\00:19:58.49
And we're hearing more,
you're out, you're doing more,
00:19:58.53\00:20:00.06
and you're
letting the church know
00:20:00.10\00:20:01.43
this is a very vital,
00:20:01.46\00:20:02.80
vital part of
the last day message.
00:20:02.83\00:20:04.17
Amen.
00:20:04.20\00:20:05.53
I think Jesus said something
about that when He said,
00:20:05.57\00:20:06.90
"Go and preach, and teach,
00:20:06.94\00:20:08.84
and baptize in all the world."
00:20:08.87\00:20:13.07
Praise the Lord.
00:20:13.11\00:20:14.44
Cami, you got
something else for us?
00:20:14.48\00:20:15.81
Yes, actually,
00:20:15.84\00:20:17.18
we were so excited to
meet with the Steeles.
00:20:17.21\00:20:19.91
Now this is a couple that...
00:20:19.95\00:20:22.15
Was the original
couple that started with AWR,
00:20:22.18\00:20:25.12
and we have videos
00:20:25.15\00:20:26.49
so that we can
show in their own words
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what the
original vision of AWR was
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and now is again today.
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It's a beautiful
thing. All right.
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Adventist World Radio
00:20:36.56\00:20:38.10
has been
carrying the voice of hope
00:20:38.13\00:20:39.87
to the unreached
people groups of the world
00:20:39.90\00:20:42.37
in their own languages.
00:20:42.40\00:20:45.47
AWR started over
45 years ago in 1971,
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and the vision today
00:20:51.15\00:20:52.51
is just as strong
as it was back then.
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Meet the Steeles,
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the first employees
of Adventist World Radio.
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So, Allen and Andrea,
00:21:02.56\00:21:04.09
tell me a little bit
about your background.
00:21:04.13\00:21:06.33
And how did you first
become interested in radio?
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Well, for me, I
was at a university,
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I was part of the
radio station on campus,
00:21:13.60\00:21:17.17
and we had a very
special guest come to the campus
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and talk to us.
00:21:20.64\00:21:21.98
And that was H. M. S. Richards,
00:21:22.01\00:21:23.91
the real pioneer of
radio for the Adventist church.
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And he gave us a vision
that really caught with me,
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and that was we can reach
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the whole world with radio.
00:21:33.89\00:21:37.26
And he said, "You
have got to do it."
00:21:37.29\00:21:39.79
And I took it
personally, and ever after that,
00:21:39.83\00:21:43.20
that was my goal to get
into that type of ministry
00:21:43.23\00:21:46.70
for the Lord.
00:21:46.74\00:21:48.07
The general
conference decided to start
00:21:48.10\00:21:50.07
this radio project,
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and you were chosen to
be the first employees.
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Tell me a little bit about that?
00:21:55.91\00:21:58.68
That was a very
exciting time, of course.
00:21:58.71\00:22:02.68
And this was the
vision that I had had
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that we would somehow be able
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to spread God's
message around the world.
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So I offered, I said,
"Okay, send me, I'll go."
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And the first assignment
was in Lisbon, Portugal.
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And as we were
planning to go, they said,
00:22:22.97\00:22:25.64
"Now, we need to warn you
that we only have enough money
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to keep you there for a year.
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Do you mind
going just for a year?"
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I said, "Sure, we'll do that."
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Well, it turned
out that the next year,
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while we were there, they said,
"Can you stay another year?"
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We said, "Okay,
we'll stay another year."
00:22:41.82\00:22:43.93
And this
continued on for five years.
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I think that the
church leaders were delighted,
00:22:46.80\00:22:50.50
may be surprised a little bit,
00:22:50.53\00:22:52.33
when articles began
to come about the results
00:22:52.37\00:22:56.07
that we were getting
from the house broadcast.
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And we had 20 languages,
12 hours a week was all.
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And they began to
make donations for it.
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And fact is, after one article,
00:23:06.11\00:23:08.48
enough money came
in for the next year.
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And so I think that's
when the church leaders said,
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"Okay, this is important.
00:23:13.92\00:23:15.99
The church members
want it. Let's do it."
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As you're aware,
00:23:18.13\00:23:19.46
Adventist World Radio
is expanding the ministry,
00:23:19.49\00:23:22.86
and we're calling it AWR 360,
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From Broadcast to
Baptism, we're still doing
00:23:26.53\00:23:30.21
what we've done in
the past and increasing.
00:23:30.24\00:23:33.48
But now we've added
this dimension trying
00:23:33.51\00:23:36.61
to reach out to the
listeners that are listening
00:23:36.64\00:23:39.85
to the broadcast,
connecting with them,
00:23:39.88\00:23:42.85
and getting them
into a local church.
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What do you think
about this expansion
00:23:47.02\00:23:50.56
of the ministry of AWR?
00:23:50.59\00:23:52.83
This new vision of AWR
360 has just totally fulfilled
00:23:52.86\00:23:57.77
our dream of what might happen
with this special ministry.
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It's a completion of what
I call the circle of love.
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So you give the message,
and then you follow through,
00:24:07.31\00:24:11.01
and you bring
people to a family of God
00:24:11.05\00:24:15.55
that can nurture
them and help them.
00:24:15.58\00:24:18.82
It seems to me that
it's just the natural way
00:24:18.85\00:24:21.46
that things
should have developed
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and perhaps should
have been done long ago
00:24:23.83\00:24:25.89
if it were possible.
00:24:25.93\00:24:27.56
So it
completes... It's sort of...
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It's an exciting
aspect that completes
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the circle of not
only giving the message
00:24:33.67\00:24:37.41
but then
bringing the people to God
00:24:37.44\00:24:40.48
and helping them to be
part of the family of God.
00:24:40.51\00:24:46.01
And I'm sure that
all over the world
00:24:46.05\00:24:48.58
where we have radio studios,
00:24:48.62\00:24:51.25
when people write to
Adventist World Radio,
00:24:51.29\00:24:53.76
those messages are always
sent to the country of origin
00:24:53.79\00:24:57.43
as well as
being answered by AWR,
00:24:57.46\00:25:00.40
and so then they're
sent a Bible study card.
00:25:00.43\00:25:04.13
And so they're able to
sign up for Bible studies,
00:25:04.17\00:25:06.94
and then they work
with Bible study office,
00:25:06.97\00:25:09.87
right in their own country.
00:25:09.90\00:25:11.37
So this follow through
of having people actually go
00:25:11.41\00:25:15.21
and do evangelistic meetings
now in the different countries
00:25:15.24\00:25:18.68
is the connection.
00:25:18.71\00:25:20.08
It's a natural thing
for it to be happening.
00:25:20.12\00:25:22.35
And it's wonderful
that it can be happening
00:25:22.38\00:25:24.62
in so many parts of the world.
00:25:24.65\00:25:26.15
And the people in any country,
00:25:26.19\00:25:29.26
such as the US or any place,
00:25:29.29\00:25:31.09
who are excited about
Adventist World Radio,
00:25:31.13\00:25:34.46
who perhaps make contributions
to help it keep running,
00:25:34.50\00:25:36.97
that's so important,
00:25:37.00\00:25:38.33
but who might
like to be involved
00:25:38.37\00:25:40.04
can actually be involved
in some of these things,
00:25:40.07\00:25:42.50
so they can actually
meet some of the listeners,
00:25:42.54\00:25:44.64
that's one of the
most beautiful things
00:25:44.67\00:25:47.38
is to meet someone
00:25:47.41\00:25:48.91
who has had their
life turned around
00:25:48.94\00:25:51.35
because of what
they heard on radio.
00:25:51.38\00:25:53.82
And this new vision of AWR 360
00:25:53.85\00:25:57.39
has just totally
fulfilled our dream
00:25:57.42\00:26:00.82
of what might happen
with this special ministry.
00:26:00.86\00:26:03.93
Wow, I love the
logo. I love the logo.
00:26:09.73\00:26:11.10
You like that?
00:26:11.13\00:26:12.47
Ellen White, you
know, in discussing why,
00:26:12.50\00:26:14.77
I think it's the
Acts of the Apostles,
00:26:14.80\00:26:16.14
she discusses why
00:26:16.17\00:26:17.51
there is a change of
passage at different churches.
00:26:17.54\00:26:20.21
And she says, "No
one guy has everything."
00:26:20.24\00:26:22.64
So we changed
passage that the church
00:26:22.68\00:26:24.31
gets the broad
spectrum of leadership.
00:26:24.35\00:26:26.61
You are an
evangelism guy, you know,
00:26:26.65\00:26:28.95
and so you bring to the
stew your own particular flavor,
00:26:28.98\00:26:34.66
and to me, it's apropos
for this particular time.
00:26:34.69\00:26:37.33
This is what we
need at this time.
00:26:37.36\00:26:38.79
The marriage of
ministry that exists
00:26:38.83\00:26:42.00
because it's ministry,
00:26:42.03\00:26:43.37
but also with the
evangelism salt in there.
00:26:43.40\00:26:46.37
So you got a broadcast entity
00:26:46.40\00:26:48.47
which has been
going on for years,
00:26:48.50\00:26:49.87
but now you've given it
increased emphasis on let's see
00:26:49.90\00:26:53.94
some results
'cause you're there.
00:26:53.98\00:26:55.54
Let's just push
it and highlight it
00:26:55.58\00:26:57.05
because the results are there.
00:26:57.08\00:26:58.41
Absolutely. And
that's what we're about.
00:26:58.45\00:26:59.95
You know, we're not...
00:26:59.98\00:27:01.32
We're keeping what we have done,
00:27:01.35\00:27:02.78
we're adding to it, we
had more radio stations
00:27:02.82\00:27:05.22
now than ever
before this last year.
00:27:05.25\00:27:06.59
We have more shortwave
broadcasts than ever before.
00:27:06.62\00:27:09.26
So we keep pushing that,
00:27:09.29\00:27:10.63
but we just want to
complete the circle and do more.
00:27:10.66\00:27:12.29
It's like Lonny
Duncan, he is an engineer,
00:27:12.33\00:27:15.23
who met H. M. S.
Richards Sr. back in '57
00:27:15.26\00:27:18.63
I think it was and...
00:27:18.67\00:27:20.00
He sent him a
letter, and he says,
00:27:20.04\00:27:21.37
he was a young
engineer, and then he says,
00:27:21.40\00:27:22.74
"We want to
broadcast around the world,
00:27:22.77\00:27:24.11
how can you help us?"
00:27:24.14\00:27:25.47
And finally, that
developed into AWR
00:27:25.51\00:27:26.84
in 1971 in
Portugal with Elder Wilson.
00:27:26.88\00:27:29.88
But Lonny told me
when we talked about
00:27:29.91\00:27:31.85
Broadcast to Baptism, he said,
00:27:31.88\00:27:33.48
"That was the original intent
00:27:33.52\00:27:35.48
always to connect
people with Jesus."
00:27:35.52\00:27:37.35
Okay, so you just
connected the circle there,
00:27:37.39\00:27:39.32
trying to get
back to your roots.
00:27:39.35\00:27:40.69
That's right. That's
right. Back to the roots.
00:27:40.72\00:27:42.06
By the way, the shirts.
00:27:42.09\00:27:43.96
The shirts, Cami, what's that...
00:27:43.99\00:27:45.33
Kind of like our shirts show.
00:27:45.36\00:27:47.10
We lift up the trumpets
and we connect the dots.
00:27:47.13\00:27:49.56
I just... Just like
H. M. S. Richards...
00:27:49.60\00:27:52.07
Yes.
00:27:52.10\00:27:53.44
"We'll lift up the
trumpets, loud, let it ring."
00:27:53.47\00:27:55.20
And that's what
we're doing with AWR.
00:27:55.24\00:27:56.84
All around the world,
we hear that where we go,
00:27:56.87\00:27:58.21
lift up the trumpet...
00:27:58.24\00:27:59.57
That's the theme song of AWR.
00:27:59.61\00:28:00.94
Amen and amen.
00:28:00.98\00:28:02.31
Well done, well done.
00:28:02.34\00:28:03.68
People actually identify
Adventism with that song.
00:28:03.71\00:28:05.38
So they know that,
00:28:05.41\00:28:06.75
"Oh, I want to
hear that broadcast."
00:28:06.78\00:28:08.12
So yeah.
00:28:08.15\00:28:09.48
And one of the new ways
that we're branching out
00:28:09.52\00:28:12.39
is this incredible thing called
00:28:12.42\00:28:14.02
AWR 360 cell phone evangelism.
00:28:14.06\00:28:17.86
It is super special.
00:28:17.89\00:28:19.46
And the way that God brought
00:28:19.49\00:28:23.00
that these ideas all together,
00:28:23.03\00:28:24.93
and how it's meshed
00:28:24.97\00:28:26.30
is just such a
beautiful miracle.
00:28:26.33\00:28:29.04
It actually began one year ago.
00:28:29.07\00:28:31.41
And yeah, and I want
the two that were there
00:28:31.44\00:28:36.54
to explain
exactly how that happened.
00:28:36.58\00:28:39.05
When Kathy and I were in Zambia,
00:28:39.08\00:28:41.82
we're getting ready to
bring European evangelism,
00:28:41.85\00:28:44.02
100 European evangelisms.
00:28:44.05\00:28:45.49
We mentioned
this before, you know,
00:28:45.52\00:28:46.86
we're going to a 1,000 meetings
and let's talk all at one time.
00:28:46.89\00:28:49.29
We're also going
down to Livingstone
00:28:49.32\00:28:50.83
with lot of
meetings down there as well,
00:28:50.86\00:28:52.33
and we're
broadcasting the whole area,
00:28:52.36\00:28:53.80
preparing for that right now.
00:28:53.83\00:28:55.16
And so Kathy and I,
00:28:55.20\00:28:56.53
we were going to
go to Livingstone.
00:28:56.56\00:28:58.43
That's right. And we
couldn't get a hotel.
00:28:58.47\00:29:00.94
Duane checked and on
the web, and they were full.
00:29:00.97\00:29:05.87
And so, but he said,
00:29:05.91\00:29:07.28
"There is one hotel
that has some rooms,
00:29:07.31\00:29:12.61
Taita Falcon Lodge."
00:29:12.65\00:29:14.78
And so, I said, "Well,
we've never been there.
00:29:14.82\00:29:17.35
We don't know what it's
like, but we need a bed tonight,
00:29:17.39\00:29:21.16
so, I mean, we better book it.
00:29:21.19\00:29:24.33
So he did.
00:29:24.36\00:29:26.09
And when we got
down to Livingstone,
00:29:26.13\00:29:29.63
we had somebody meet us,
00:29:29.66\00:29:32.23
and we started off of
the black top onto this...
00:29:32.27\00:29:37.67
Well, honey, we
talked where we want to go
00:29:37.71\00:29:39.37
and the guy says,
"I know where that is,
00:29:39.41\00:29:41.58
but I sense that's
a long way out there.
00:29:41.61\00:29:44.41
It's an hour on
this horrible road."
00:29:44.45\00:29:46.92
Yes. Terrible.
00:29:46.95\00:29:51.35
Anyway, so we got there
and there's pitch black.
00:29:51.39\00:29:54.92
So we don't know what
we've gotten ourselves into.
00:29:54.96\00:29:58.66
But anyway, the
manager, Antoinette,
00:29:58.69\00:30:02.80
was out by the road to meet us.
00:30:02.83\00:30:07.40
And she showed us our
cabin, well, cabin is thatch.
00:30:07.44\00:30:12.44
And then she took us,
00:30:12.47\00:30:14.68
we had ordered
dinner that night.
00:30:14.71\00:30:18.88
And in the next morning,
00:30:18.91\00:30:20.92
Antoinette and her husband
took us back into Livingstone
00:30:20.95\00:30:25.12
to make plans for
next year's meeting.
00:30:25.15\00:30:28.56
They are this year's
meetings I guess I should say.
00:30:28.59\00:30:31.59
And we had great
meetings with the pastor
00:30:31.63\00:30:35.76
and the leadership there.
00:30:35.80\00:30:37.67
And made
arrangements for another hotel
00:30:37.70\00:30:41.30
for our big
groups that we're taking.
00:30:41.34\00:30:44.77
And then, the next day,
we're getting ready to leave.
00:30:44.81\00:30:50.18
Now Antoinette and her
husband are Afrikaans people,
00:30:50.21\00:30:53.11
they're Dutch people.
00:30:53.15\00:30:54.48
They go to the
Dutch reform church.
00:30:54.52\00:30:56.79
And we don't
baptize many of them,
00:30:56.82\00:30:58.15
they're tough, very, very tough.
00:30:58.19\00:30:59.59
And so they're usually
not very religious, you know,
00:30:59.62\00:31:02.22
and so, and
they're very professional.
00:31:02.26\00:31:04.23
And you never see
them managing hotels.
00:31:04.26\00:31:07.36
So this is a lot unusual for us.
00:31:07.40\00:31:09.30
That's right, and
so, the next morning,
00:31:09.33\00:31:13.00
we're getting ready to leave.
00:31:13.03\00:31:14.57
And it's just Duane, and myself,
00:31:14.60\00:31:17.77
and Bob Peck there.
00:31:17.81\00:31:19.37
The other couple
that had been there
00:31:19.41\00:31:21.48
the previous
morning for breakfast,
00:31:21.51\00:31:23.45
they had already gone.
00:31:23.48\00:31:25.15
So we have packed
our bags, and the pastor
00:31:25.18\00:31:29.08
has come to pick
us up, and I said,
00:31:29.12\00:31:32.95
"Duane, I want to go and say,
00:31:32.99\00:31:35.49
"Thank you so much
00:31:35.52\00:31:36.86
to Antoinette for
their hospitality."
00:31:36.89\00:31:39.69
And so I went there,
00:31:39.73\00:31:42.23
and Antoinette said, you know...
00:31:42.26\00:31:44.40
Was she sitting at
the bar, smoking...
00:31:44.43\00:31:47.44
And with her Bible, and
she said, "You know what,
00:31:47.47\00:31:52.27
you know, she said...
00:31:52.31\00:31:54.81
I told my husband,
00:31:54.84\00:31:58.78
we were brought up wrong."
00:31:58.81\00:32:00.85
And I thought, "Woah!"
00:32:00.88\00:32:03.18
Anyway, she started to tell me
00:32:03.22\00:32:05.72
that this person she has
been studying Revelation,
00:32:05.75\00:32:11.03
she's been studying prophecy.
00:32:11.06\00:32:13.56
And I thought,
"How did that happen?"
00:32:13.60\00:32:16.16
So she said, you know,
"Every Saturday morning,
00:32:16.20\00:32:19.20
one of my relatives
would send out texts, messages,
00:32:19.23\00:32:24.67
and I would get it, and
I start asking questions."
00:32:24.71\00:32:28.48
And this relative said,
"I'm going to put you in touch
00:32:28.51\00:32:33.05
with Neville Neveling."
00:32:33.08\00:32:35.32
And so, "Wow, Neville Neveling,"
00:32:35.35\00:32:38.15
I said, "Well, I
want that information
00:32:38.19\00:32:41.12
so that we can get in
touch with Neville Neveling."
00:32:41.16\00:32:44.33
And she goes on to
tell how she has been
00:32:44.36\00:32:47.90
doing Bible studies,
prophecy Bible studies,
00:32:47.93\00:32:51.93
through Neville Neveling.
00:32:51.97\00:32:54.27
And so she gives
us his information,
00:32:54.30\00:32:57.84
Duane calls Neville.
00:32:57.87\00:32:59.77
This is so exciting.
00:32:59.81\00:33:01.14
I called him, and
this is right after
00:33:01.18\00:33:03.35
you were in Romania. Okay.
00:33:03.38\00:33:05.15
Okay, so he had a camp meeting
for these Afrikaans people.
00:33:05.18\00:33:09.18
He's been taking the cell phone,
00:33:09.22\00:33:10.79
and he does Sabbath school
and church on the cell phone
00:33:10.82\00:33:13.66
with all these
Afrikaans Adventist farmers
00:33:13.69\00:33:15.52
all across Southern Africa.
00:33:15.56\00:33:16.89
Now Neville is a lay person?
00:33:16.93\00:33:18.26
He is a lay person. Uh-huh.
00:33:18.29\00:33:19.63
He has a lodge and stuff
and does theme park stuff.
00:33:19.66\00:33:22.46
But he is also Afrikaans,
00:33:22.50\00:33:24.20
and he does this the cell phone,
00:33:24.23\00:33:26.47
Bible studies in cell phone,
Sabbath school, and church,
00:33:26.50\00:33:29.24
switched off the cell
phone with using Whatsapp.
00:33:29.27\00:33:31.64
And he sends these
messages and people respond.
00:33:31.67\00:33:34.11
And he does
Sabbath school and church.
00:33:34.14\00:33:35.48
And so he ends up
getting invited to go
00:33:35.51\00:33:38.21
and preach in Georgia
when we're in Romania.
00:33:38.25\00:33:41.92
And he's flying
home on the airplane,
00:33:41.95\00:33:43.82
and he's looking
at his cell phone.
00:33:43.85\00:33:45.62
And he's
thinking about the sermons
00:33:45.65\00:33:46.99
he just preached, he thought,
00:33:47.02\00:33:48.36
"I can do
evangelism with a cell phone."
00:33:48.39\00:33:50.46
Amen.
00:33:50.49\00:33:51.83
And so that's
what is happening now.
00:33:51.86\00:33:53.19
He's starting to send
out with a cell phone.
00:33:53.23\00:33:55.60
He puts them in
six-minute clips,
00:33:55.63\00:33:57.47
he does the whole sermon,
he sends it to all his people,
00:33:57.50\00:33:59.93
they respond.
00:33:59.97\00:34:01.30
First, he had a hundreds,
then he had a thousand,
00:34:01.34\00:34:03.30
then he had 3,000.
00:34:03.34\00:34:05.67
When we talked to him, he
had 3,000 people everyday.
00:34:05.71\00:34:08.51
He's pulling his hair out
00:34:08.54\00:34:09.88
where he doesn't
have a whole lot left.
00:34:09.91\00:34:11.25
But he's pulling his hair
what he does tell, you know,
00:34:11.28\00:34:13.15
all these people,
and now it has developed.
00:34:13.18\00:34:15.78
He's got 14 other
people working with him.
00:34:15.82\00:34:18.15
They had 10,000 to 12,000 people
00:34:18.19\00:34:20.82
around the world
on every continent.
00:34:20.86\00:34:23.36
Wow. Well, except one.
00:34:23.39\00:34:25.06
Except one.
00:34:25.09\00:34:26.43
Antarctica, the penguins
don't have phones there.
00:34:26.46\00:34:28.53
Yeah. Yeah, what can you say.
00:34:28.56\00:34:31.20
What's amazing about this
is that anybody can do it.
00:34:31.23\00:34:34.10
I'm actually headed
there next week to...
00:34:34.14\00:34:35.77
We pour on some of the stories
and talk with these people.
00:34:35.80\00:34:38.34
For example, there
was a very introverted,
00:34:38.37\00:34:40.78
shy man in the church there.
00:34:40.81\00:34:42.81
And he, for 15 years,
he sat there on the pew
00:34:42.84\00:34:46.75
and didn't really
talk or engage in anyway.
00:34:46.78\00:34:50.45
He heard about this
cell phone evangelism,
00:34:50.49\00:34:52.52
and he's like, "I can do that."
00:34:52.55\00:34:55.82
And the pastor was like, "Huh!"
00:34:55.86\00:34:58.16
Like this man has
never spoken up ever.
00:34:58.19\00:35:01.03
And everybody
around was like, "Really?"
00:35:01.06\00:35:03.57
And he's like, "I can do that."
00:35:03.60\00:35:05.83
This man has started
00:35:05.87\00:35:07.97
cell phone
evangelism on his Whatsapp,
00:35:08.00\00:35:10.31
and he has already eight
to nine people ready to go,
00:35:10.34\00:35:13.34
and that's just
within a few months.
00:35:13.38\00:35:14.94
Wow.
00:35:14.98\00:35:16.31
For baptism, like
this is incredible.
00:35:16.34\00:35:18.78
There's also another young lady.
00:35:18.81\00:35:20.65
She was born
with a kidney defect,
00:35:20.68\00:35:23.18
and her legs
have been amputated,
00:35:23.22\00:35:25.05
and she's lost her sight.
00:35:25.09\00:35:27.56
That girl's winning
souls through her cell phone.
00:35:27.59\00:35:31.79
She can do cell
phone evangelism.
00:35:31.83\00:35:33.43
There's no excuse for
anybody else, of any age,
00:35:33.46\00:35:37.07
or of any challenges,
you can do cell phone...
00:35:37.10\00:35:39.80
And it's reaching thousands.
00:35:39.83\00:35:41.17
And we're finding new platforms
00:35:41.20\00:35:42.74
where we can
reach even more at once
00:35:42.77\00:35:45.94
when you send out
the prophecy sermons.
00:35:45.97\00:35:48.61
Sue, you played
this on your cell phone
00:35:48.64\00:35:50.85
that audio testimony
last night as we were driving,
00:35:50.88\00:35:55.55
from this guy in South Africa
00:35:55.58\00:35:56.92
who just started
using the cell phone.
00:35:56.95\00:35:58.92
And what was...
00:35:58.95\00:36:00.72
Can you tell us about the guy?
00:36:00.76\00:36:02.16
Amazing. Wasn't it on your's?
00:36:02.19\00:36:04.73
Yeah. On Cami's. Okay.
00:36:04.76\00:36:06.26
Yeah. No worries. Okay.
00:36:06.29\00:36:08.43
His name is Marius, and
he is a brother of Gideon
00:36:08.46\00:36:12.13
who is one of the main
leaders with Neville on getting
00:36:12.17\00:36:14.44
the cell phone evangelism
out there in the world
00:36:14.47\00:36:17.61
and take teaming here with AWR.
00:36:17.64\00:36:19.17
They are now
partners with us for this.
00:36:19.21\00:36:21.44
And his brother, he was
driving on down the road,
00:36:21.48\00:36:23.98
he's like, you know,
00:36:24.01\00:36:27.52
"I was born in a
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:36:27.55\00:36:29.68
I've been, you know,
00:36:29.72\00:36:31.05
even teaching Sabbath school,
00:36:31.09\00:36:32.52
you know, off and
on, here and there,
00:36:32.55\00:36:34.36
but I just really
haven't done much for the Lord.
00:36:34.39\00:36:36.69
I need to do more for the Lord."
00:36:36.73\00:36:38.76
And so he heard about
this cell phone evangelism
00:36:38.79\00:36:41.76
that his brother was doing,
00:36:41.80\00:36:44.27
starting getting the texts,
00:36:44.30\00:36:45.90
seeing, and
hearing, and listening,
00:36:45.93\00:36:47.27
and being convicted all
over again from so he says,
00:36:47.30\00:36:49.24
"You know what,
00:36:49.27\00:36:50.61
I'm feeling deeply
impressed to do this myself."
00:36:50.64\00:36:54.41
This man does this,
and in the last few months,
00:36:54.44\00:36:58.01
he has, guess how many?
00:36:58.05\00:37:00.42
Eleven hundred people now. Amen.
00:37:00.45\00:37:04.02
Learning all about
Daniel to Revelation...
00:37:04.05\00:37:07.76
I mean just... It is wonderful.
00:37:07.79\00:37:09.96
Another beautiful thing
that brought tears to my eyes
00:37:09.99\00:37:12.46
when I first heard it is that
00:37:12.49\00:37:14.16
he also added his son
to the cell phone list.
00:37:14.20\00:37:16.53
And his son had not been
in church for about a decade.
00:37:16.56\00:37:18.93
Amen. Yes.
00:37:18.97\00:37:20.44
And his son, everyday he says,
00:37:20.47\00:37:22.27
"So, son, what do you think
of, you know, such and such."
00:37:22.30\00:37:25.57
And he says, "Well, I
haven't listened to it."
00:37:25.61\00:37:26.94
"You listen to it, and
then I'm going to call you back,
00:37:26.98\00:37:28.98
and you can let me know."
00:37:29.01\00:37:30.78
And so this actually worked.
00:37:30.81\00:37:33.58
That son is now reconnected
and he has been re-baptized.
00:37:33.62\00:37:38.69
Amen. Amen.
00:37:38.72\00:37:40.06
Yes, you know, the Holy Spirit
can use any of these tools,
00:37:40.09\00:37:44.33
and He's just giving
us so many tools here
00:37:44.36\00:37:47.13
in the end time.
00:37:47.16\00:37:48.50
The Lord is just saying,
"Here, take this, take this."
00:37:48.53\00:37:51.70
And we can spread the
gospel in all these ways.
00:37:51.73\00:37:54.00
They're in
church... Praise the Lord.
00:37:54.04\00:37:55.37
Can I just say something once?
00:37:55.40\00:37:57.67
We didn't
mention that Antoinette
00:37:57.71\00:38:00.94
is getting baptized.
00:38:00.98\00:38:02.44
Yes, we're going
to go and film that.
00:38:02.48\00:38:04.71
In two weeks,
she's getting baptized.
00:38:04.75\00:38:06.28
Praise God. Yes.
00:38:06.31\00:38:07.82
You know, what is great about
this cell phone evangelism,
00:38:07.85\00:38:10.59
in particular, is so
many of our church members
00:38:10.62\00:38:14.42
want to help finish the work.
00:38:14.46\00:38:16.83
And this is just such a
simple way they can do that.
00:38:16.86\00:38:20.36
I received a call from
this gentleman in Texas.
00:38:20.40\00:38:23.16
He is 85 years old.
00:38:23.20\00:38:25.10
He heard about the
cell phone evangelism.
00:38:25.13\00:38:27.97
He just goes, "I can do that.
00:38:28.00\00:38:29.80
I want to do that." Amen.
00:38:29.84\00:38:32.14
You know what,
how do you do that?
00:38:32.17\00:38:34.28
I bet the audience
wants to know that.
00:38:34.31\00:38:35.64
You know, they
want to know how...
00:38:35.68\00:38:37.61
I would if I was watching
this, "How do you do that?"
00:38:37.65\00:38:39.38
Do we have any
training videos? We do.
00:38:39.41\00:38:41.48
We actually have an
awesome training video
00:38:41.52\00:38:45.89
by Neville himself on how
to do cell phone evangelism.
00:38:45.92\00:38:49.09
It is on awr.org as
well as we are branching out
00:38:49.12\00:38:52.49
into YouTube evangelism as well.
00:38:52.53\00:38:54.80
And our partner in this
is a guy by the name of...
00:38:54.83\00:38:59.53
Greg Sereda.
00:38:59.57\00:39:00.90
Greg and he has Bible Flock Box.
00:39:00.94\00:39:02.27
And Mark Fox. And Mark Fox.
00:39:02.30\00:39:04.27
Both of them.
00:39:04.31\00:39:05.64
And they are top
YouTube evangelists.
00:39:05.67\00:39:08.08
Well, Greg
Sereda, I think has had
00:39:08.11\00:39:10.08
53 million people
watch his YouTube.
00:39:10.11\00:39:12.71
He's in Poland.
00:39:12.75\00:39:14.08
He is the top
Adventist. Tremendous story.
00:39:14.12\00:39:15.45
I won't tell the whole
story, we don't have time.
00:39:15.48\00:39:16.95
Incredible story.
00:39:16.99\00:39:18.32
But he is partnering with us,
00:39:18.35\00:39:19.69
and he does training on
how to do YouTube evangelism.
00:39:19.72\00:39:23.73
So we're putting out
as many tools as possible
00:39:23.76\00:39:25.69
for the laymen to get involved
00:39:25.73\00:39:27.06
'cause we're told that
laymen finish the work.
00:39:27.10\00:39:28.66
But here in
Pretoria... Go ahead.
00:39:28.70\00:39:30.40
No, go ahead. No, no, no.
00:39:30.43\00:39:31.77
In Pretoria, they wanted to
do something in this one church.
00:39:31.80\00:39:34.60
There was a big
Dutch reformed church,
00:39:34.64\00:39:36.44
our church bought it.
00:39:36.47\00:39:37.81
So we hade the
whole complex there.
00:39:37.84\00:39:39.27
And so we were talking
with them about social media.
00:39:39.31\00:39:41.64
And they said,
00:39:41.68\00:39:43.01
"We wanted to be on
the social media studio."
00:39:43.04\00:39:45.11
And so we thought,
"We'll first buy one,"
00:39:45.15\00:39:46.68
and then they said,
00:39:46.72\00:39:48.05
"No, we can build a brand
new one here on our ground."
00:39:48.08\00:39:50.19
So we're partnering with him,
00:39:50.22\00:39:51.82
he says for
$200,000, we can build this.
00:39:51.85\00:39:54.52
And there's a builder
in the church, he says,
00:39:54.56\00:39:56.22
"I can fund all the rest.
00:39:56.26\00:39:57.89
I'll build this studio for you."
00:39:57.93\00:39:59.43
So that, in China for example,
in China, WeChat is everyplace.
00:39:59.46\00:40:05.03
It's an app on the phone.
00:40:05.07\00:40:06.63
When you go to the
store, you buy groceries,
00:40:06.67\00:40:08.00
you take your
phone, you use your app,
00:40:08.04\00:40:09.80
and you buy your
groceries with your app,
00:40:09.84\00:40:11.77
don't use cash.
00:40:11.81\00:40:13.14
Everybody, a
billion people have WeChat.
00:40:13.17\00:40:16.21
It's also popular
in Southern Africa.
00:40:16.24\00:40:19.25
WeChat, it's like Whatsapp.
00:40:19.28\00:40:21.05
It's just an app.
00:40:21.08\00:40:23.92
But the neat thing
about WeChat is, get this,
00:40:23.95\00:40:27.26
you can broadcast
24x7 on radio on WeChat.
00:40:27.29\00:40:32.46
So we can set up a studio,
we're going to do in China too,
00:40:32.49\00:40:35.36
but there, you
have to health messages.
00:40:35.40\00:40:37.70
We can set up a
Bible Adventist studio
00:40:37.73\00:40:40.57
in Pretoria, South Africa,
00:40:40.60\00:40:43.37
broadcast all over
China the Adventist message.
00:40:43.41\00:40:48.81
And you know what?
There's no restrictions.
00:40:48.84\00:40:52.75
Praise the Lord.
00:40:52.78\00:40:54.92
Now what do we do
with all these people
00:40:54.95\00:40:56.38
that were broadcast it
too, like cell phone evangelism.
00:40:56.42\00:40:59.25
There are so many people
that are hearing this messages,
00:40:59.29\00:41:01.26
and they have questions,
00:41:01.29\00:41:02.62
and, you know,
Neville, bless his heart,
00:41:02.66\00:41:03.99
he's been responding
00:41:04.03\00:41:05.36
to every single one of
us as much as possible.
00:41:05.39\00:41:07.23
But this has
just born a new idea
00:41:07.26\00:41:11.37
that is called AWR 360,
digital centers for evangelism.
00:41:11.40\00:41:17.04
I think the people
who try to contact you,
00:41:17.07\00:41:18.91
if you can't have
them through the internet,
00:41:18.94\00:41:21.34
through the general conference.
00:41:21.38\00:41:22.71
They go to the
general conference
00:41:22.74\00:41:24.08
and type in they
want the answers.
00:41:24.11\00:41:25.45
They want to sign
for Bible studies,
00:41:25.48\00:41:26.95
oftentimes you have something,
00:41:26.98\00:41:28.32
you ought to share about...
00:41:28.35\00:41:30.49
Yeah. About what we're...
00:41:30.52\00:41:32.09
About us. Yes.
00:41:32.12\00:41:33.92
And how that's going
to work. That's right.
00:41:33.96\00:41:35.89
So, you know, the
thing is that Adventist World
00:41:35.92\00:41:39.79
has done an
incredible job for 40 years
00:41:39.83\00:41:41.60
and broadcasting
around the world.
00:41:41.63\00:41:43.33
And during the past few months,
00:41:43.37\00:41:45.70
our focus has enlarged,
00:41:45.73\00:41:47.54
beyond broadcasting
in almost 100 languages.
00:41:47.57\00:41:50.17
And when we do this,
00:41:50.21\00:41:51.54
the problem is is
that a lot of times
00:41:51.57\00:41:54.28
there hasn't been a follow up.
00:41:54.31\00:41:55.94
You know, at
different, you know, websites,
00:41:55.98\00:41:58.28
and that's
throughout all of Adventism,
00:41:58.31\00:42:00.68
you know, in all of
the different ministries,
00:42:00.72\00:42:02.05
you know, you get
the Facebook chats,
00:42:02.08\00:42:03.52
the whatever, and
people are asking questions,
00:42:03.55\00:42:06.12
and maybe it takes a few
hours, a few days, if ever,
00:42:06.15\00:42:09.56
for a response, right?
00:42:09.59\00:42:11.16
So that is the problem.
00:42:11.19\00:42:12.76
And our
objective for these centers
00:42:12.79\00:42:14.66
for digital evangelism
00:42:14.70\00:42:17.13
is to lead every
digital relationship
00:42:17.17\00:42:19.20
to baptism and church planting.
00:42:19.23\00:42:21.47
So we've also expanded
our distribution channels
00:42:21.50\00:42:24.57
to all media platforms,
00:42:24.61\00:42:25.94
and in this partnership
with total member involvement,
00:42:25.97\00:42:28.14
we believe in
connecting the dots,
00:42:28.18\00:42:30.18
that is to say
helping the church to lead
00:42:30.21\00:42:32.05
each personal interaction
from engagement to membership.
00:42:32.08\00:42:35.58
So the problem is hopefully
going to be solved here
00:42:35.62\00:42:39.52
because with these
centers for digital evangelism,
00:42:39.55\00:42:41.92
we're going to
have about a 100, 150...
00:42:41.96\00:42:44.46
50 to 150, we'll
start off with first.
00:42:44.49\00:42:46.53
Voluntary missionaries. Yeah.
00:42:46.56\00:42:48.50
And in Manila,
it's like a call center.
00:42:48.53\00:42:51.50
That's a call center in Manila.
00:42:51.53\00:42:52.87
This is not only our problem.
00:42:52.90\00:42:54.24
It's a problem
in the world. Yes.
00:42:54.27\00:42:55.60
I got a call
here from Chris Smith.
00:42:55.64\00:42:57.37
He is the expert
00:42:57.41\00:42:58.77
on social media
advertising on Facebook.
00:42:58.81\00:43:01.11
He has a book
called the Conversion Code.
00:43:01.14\00:43:03.95
And he says,
"Leads," you know, they get,
00:43:03.98\00:43:06.55
"are meaningless as
someone does not work them
00:43:06.58\00:43:10.12
and follow up with them
to systemized, strategic,
00:43:10.15\00:43:15.22
in a repeatable way."
00:43:15.26\00:43:17.06
He says, actually, he says,
00:43:17.09\00:43:19.13
what happens is we
spend millions of dollars
00:43:19.16\00:43:21.10
to get entrants and
leads in the commercial world.
00:43:21.13\00:43:25.90
But then, he said,
00:43:25.93\00:43:27.27
"We don't spend
that amount of money
00:43:27.30\00:43:28.64
again to bring
them around, you see,
00:43:28.67\00:43:31.34
to bring them
around, to covert them,
00:43:31.37\00:43:33.94
you've lost your money."
00:43:33.98\00:43:35.31
And we did the same thing.
00:43:35.34\00:43:36.68
We got tons of
interest, but where do they go?
00:43:36.71\00:43:39.41
Where do they go?
How can we help them?
00:43:39.45\00:43:40.82
And so that's the idea to build
00:43:40.85\00:43:43.69
a digital
center of evangelism...
00:43:43.72\00:43:46.22
And Manila, if you go
by the Mall of Asia...
00:43:46.25\00:43:48.92
Oh, yes. You
know, you've been there.
00:43:48.96\00:43:50.39
Yes. It's the
largest mall in Asia.
00:43:50.43\00:43:51.89
Huge mall. Huge mall.
00:43:51.93\00:43:53.43
And if you look
and this reclaim land
00:43:53.46\00:43:55.56
next door to the Mall
Asia are these huge buildings.
00:43:55.60\00:43:58.47
Those are all call centers.
00:43:58.50\00:44:01.14
When you call up
Hilton, when you call up AT&T,
00:44:01.17\00:44:03.61
you need help, bang.
00:44:03.64\00:44:05.87
Yeah, you said,
"Hey, where you at?"
00:44:05.91\00:44:07.28
"Yeah, we're in Manila."
00:44:07.31\00:44:10.28
So we are thinking,
"Okay, we can do that too.
00:44:10.31\00:44:13.11
We can get 50, 100, and 150,
00:44:13.15\00:44:16.18
young-adults
from around the world
00:44:16.22\00:44:17.72
who speak all kinds
of different languages
00:44:17.75\00:44:19.82
who will be at our
center for digital evangelism
00:44:19.85\00:44:23.43
for Adventist World Radio.
00:44:23.46\00:44:24.83
And we can help
the whole church then,
00:44:24.86\00:44:26.80
connect, and connect
them to Bible studies,
00:44:26.83\00:44:28.73
connect them
back with the church,
00:44:28.76\00:44:30.10
and then eventually to baptism.
00:44:30.13\00:44:32.33
Powerful.
Powerful. It is powerful.
00:44:32.37\00:44:34.77
Who would have thought
that Adventist World Radio
00:44:34.80\00:44:38.64
would be involved in
this new kind of venture
00:44:38.67\00:44:41.71
and receiving
immediate results for,
00:44:41.74\00:44:46.58
you know, for your labor.
00:44:46.61\00:44:47.95
That's exciting stuff.
00:44:47.98\00:44:49.32
It is because God gave it to us.
00:44:49.35\00:44:50.69
That's right.
God lined it all up.
00:44:50.72\00:44:52.05
And these people are telling,
00:44:52.09\00:44:53.62
commercial
people are telling us,
00:44:53.66\00:44:54.99
"If you don't get back
to person within 10 minutes,
00:44:55.02\00:44:58.13
you know, they're gone."
00:44:58.16\00:44:59.49
But when you go on
the Hilton website,
00:44:59.53\00:45:01.00
or when you go on
back country website,
00:45:01.03\00:45:04.00
or, you know, you're looking
at their materials and stuff
00:45:04.03\00:45:06.17
they want to buy a safari
suit or whatever, you know,
00:45:06.20\00:45:10.11
or a jacket for the rain.
00:45:10.14\00:45:11.57
All of a sudden,
a young lady's voice
00:45:11.61\00:45:13.78
or picture pops up
00:45:13.81\00:45:15.14
or a young
man's picture pops up,
00:45:15.18\00:45:16.91
you want to chat
now, can I help you?
00:45:16.95\00:45:20.08
Really, really exciting.
00:45:20.12\00:45:21.45
That's what the
world is about. Yeah.
00:45:21.48\00:45:22.82
And so we need to get into that
00:45:22.85\00:45:24.19
so that we can connect
with these digital interest
00:45:24.22\00:45:26.15
and move them into prayer,
00:45:26.19\00:45:27.92
move them into Bible studies,
move them into relationships,
00:45:27.96\00:45:30.89
and move them
into a relationship
00:45:30.93\00:45:32.26
with the church
and then baptism.
00:45:32.29\00:45:34.20
Praise the Lord.
That's what I love about it.
00:45:34.23\00:45:35.56
Because it's not just
answering the Bible question,
00:45:35.60\00:45:38.13
it's actually
developing a relationship,
00:45:38.17\00:45:40.14
an ongoing relationship
00:45:40.17\00:45:41.80
that these
voluntary missionaries
00:45:41.84\00:45:43.24
will have for a year.
00:45:43.27\00:45:45.34
And, you know,
thinking of different ways
00:45:45.37\00:45:48.18
to like sum it up
for each missionary
00:45:48.21\00:45:51.38
at the end of each year
00:45:51.41\00:45:52.75
is potentially having photos
of each of all these people
00:45:52.78\00:45:57.09
that they have been
baptized through their work
00:45:57.12\00:45:59.15
with cell phone evangelism
and putting a book together,
00:45:59.19\00:46:01.66
and wouldn't that be
amazing to see the lives
00:46:01.69\00:46:03.83
you impacted?
00:46:03.86\00:46:05.19
Wow. Oh, incredible...
00:46:05.23\00:46:06.59
We're asking ASI to
partner with us, and actually,
00:46:06.63\00:46:08.53
they're meeting tomorrow.
00:46:08.56\00:46:09.90
They're talking
about helping us out
00:46:09.93\00:46:11.27
with one of the offerings.
00:46:11.30\00:46:12.87
And plus, we
have to ask, you know,
00:46:12.90\00:46:14.60
we need a vice president.
00:46:14.64\00:46:16.50
And so we looked around,
and we have asked, listen,
00:46:16.54\00:46:18.37
what's that guy's
name who worked at ASI?
00:46:18.41\00:46:21.14
You mean Kyle. Kyle Allen.
00:46:21.18\00:46:23.01
I forgot his name.
00:46:23.04\00:46:25.15
He's a Secretary-Treasurer
in the NAD for ASI.
00:46:25.18\00:46:28.52
NAD is going to kill
me, but we have called him.
00:46:28.55\00:46:32.75
We have called him
to be our vice-president
00:46:32.79\00:46:35.22
there at Adventist World Radio,
and he has these connections,
00:46:35.26\00:46:38.06
and he'll work with
this digital center.
00:46:38.09\00:46:40.60
He has the connections with ASI.
00:46:40.63\00:46:43.50
Another thing,
we have one problem,
00:46:43.53\00:46:45.40
not these two young ladies here,
00:46:45.43\00:46:47.07
but some of the rest
of us have a problem,
00:46:47.10\00:46:49.07
and that is we are aging.
00:46:49.10\00:46:51.57
And so we need to
get more... No, not you.
00:46:51.61\00:46:55.64
We need more
people who are younger,
00:46:55.68\00:46:58.18
the guys, to get excited,
00:46:58.21\00:47:00.05
about finishing the
work around the world
00:47:00.08\00:47:01.75
and connecting them
through Adventist World Radio.
00:47:01.78\00:47:04.52
You know, we all struggle
with that, but he is young,
00:47:04.55\00:47:07.89
like Cami and
Sue, and we have this
00:47:07.92\00:47:10.09
whole young team
that will be working.
00:47:10.13\00:47:11.79
He is also
heavily involved with GYC.
00:47:11.83\00:47:14.86
So we're very, very
excited to have Kyle with us
00:47:14.90\00:47:18.40
as our vice-president.
00:47:18.43\00:47:19.77
Absolutely. Praise the Lord.
00:47:19.80\00:47:21.40
I am so excited about this
00:47:21.44\00:47:23.61
brand new infusion
of energy and ideas,
00:47:23.64\00:47:27.48
and how they flow into
direct front line evangelism,
00:47:27.51\00:47:31.31
takes it kind off the couch,
00:47:31.35\00:47:33.11
puts it kind of
into stream of things.
00:47:33.15\00:47:34.55
And that's exciting
stuff. That really is.
00:47:34.58\00:47:37.42
We truly are boots on
the ground in ministry.
00:47:37.45\00:47:39.49
Boots on the ground.
00:47:39.52\00:47:40.86
Yeah, you know, I
just got a phone call
00:47:40.89\00:47:42.86
the other day from a...
00:47:42.89\00:47:44.79
We have several
stations run by churches
00:47:44.83\00:47:46.76
in the country of Spain.
00:47:46.80\00:47:48.86
And actually, they have a
difficult time but anyway,
00:47:48.90\00:47:52.37
they are working...
00:47:52.40\00:47:53.74
I think we have about 20 of them
00:47:53.77\00:47:55.10
in the country itself in Spain.
00:47:55.14\00:47:56.91
And they are
doing wonderful work.
00:47:56.94\00:47:58.81
They got a call,
the leader of this group
00:47:58.84\00:48:00.48
got a call from a
Pentecostal pastor.
00:48:00.51\00:48:04.28
Wow.
00:48:04.31\00:48:05.65
And he says, "I love, I
was just listening again
00:48:05.68\00:48:07.48
to your presentation
on Adventist World Radio.
00:48:07.52\00:48:10.95
I was listening to
it on the trumpets."
00:48:10.99\00:48:13.36
And then he says to
me, "All of the trumpets,
00:48:13.39\00:48:14.72
well, that's about the change
of the Sabbath and everything,
00:48:14.76\00:48:17.39
you know, this is pretty..."
00:48:17.43\00:48:18.89
And he says, "I
love it, I love it.
00:48:18.93\00:48:20.46
I'm going to preach it
to my church on Sunday."
00:48:20.50\00:48:23.63
Wow!
00:48:23.67\00:48:25.43
Then he says, "Do you know?
00:48:25.47\00:48:27.84
I'm already a
Seventh-day Adventist."
00:48:27.87\00:48:30.01
Praise the Lord. Amen.
00:48:30.04\00:48:31.37
He says, "I
haven't told my church,
00:48:31.41\00:48:33.04
but I listen to the
sermon during the week.
00:48:33.07\00:48:35.31
I make my sermon up
to preach on Sunday.
00:48:35.34\00:48:37.41
I preach the same sermon
on Sunday morning there."
00:48:37.45\00:48:40.92
He is a closet Adventist.
00:48:40.95\00:48:43.55
So praise the
Lord, that's exciting.
00:48:43.59\00:48:46.05
And then we
have also from Spain.
00:48:46.09\00:48:48.16
We have these islands
that are Spanish owned
00:48:48.19\00:48:50.93
that are next to North
Africa around the Morocco
00:48:50.96\00:48:53.40
and those
countries there, you know.
00:48:53.43\00:48:55.23
We have six radio stations,
we're broadcasting into...
00:48:55.26\00:48:59.83
And we're getting
wonderful stories back
00:48:59.87\00:49:02.40
from people who'll secretly
listen to our radio stations
00:49:02.44\00:49:05.21
in North Africa.
00:49:05.24\00:49:07.34
And it's very
difficult to reach areas.
00:49:07.38\00:49:09.78
Praise the Lord. Good stuff.
00:49:09.81\00:49:11.15
God is good. Yeah.
00:49:11.18\00:49:12.81
Then we're doing
GodPod. Do you know?
00:49:12.85\00:49:14.72
We've been doing
this for a long time.
00:49:14.75\00:49:16.62
We're increasing
that we just found out
00:49:16.65\00:49:18.45
that we've been
paying $48 to them,
00:49:18.49\00:49:20.56
we got the price down to $18.
00:49:20.59\00:49:22.36
Now we can get them
for $10, made in China.
00:49:22.39\00:49:26.33
One of the guys working in
North Africa, and the area,
00:49:26.36\00:49:31.17
he said, "I would like
to have a 100,000 of those."
00:49:31.20\00:49:34.24
Wow!
00:49:34.27\00:49:36.00
Hey, man, I got to ask you
because when last we talked,
00:49:36.04\00:49:38.41
and I don't know
it's taken place yet,
00:49:38.44\00:49:40.28
some of the
evangelism was going to be
00:49:40.31\00:49:41.64
taking place in Japan.
00:49:41.68\00:49:43.24
You were taking
some Japanese pastors
00:49:43.28\00:49:44.68
out to sort of
get their feet wet.
00:49:44.71\00:49:46.38
We took them to
Mindoro, they preached,
00:49:46.41\00:49:48.28
they got excited,
00:49:48.32\00:49:49.65
life-changing experience,
you cannot believe it.
00:49:49.68\00:49:52.35
Unbelievable, they left
with tears in their eyes.
00:49:52.39\00:49:56.56
And they have never done
that before in their lives.
00:49:56.59\00:49:58.89
They had never done an
evangelistic meeting overseas,
00:49:58.93\00:50:02.06
they had never done evangelism.
00:50:02.10\00:50:04.60
Sue, you talked to a
conference president,
00:50:04.63\00:50:06.77
and you asked him,
00:50:06.80\00:50:08.74
"Have you done
evangelism before?"
00:50:08.77\00:50:10.87
Yes, this
conference president...
00:50:10.91\00:50:12.51
From Japan, Tokyo.
00:50:12.54\00:50:13.88
Had never held an
evangelistic meeting
00:50:13.91\00:50:15.81
before ever.
00:50:15.84\00:50:17.38
And in his entire
life, he had attended one.
00:50:17.41\00:50:20.78
Oh, boy.
00:50:20.82\00:50:22.15
When he was
what? Twelve years old.
00:50:22.18\00:50:23.52
Something like
that, when he was young.
00:50:23.55\00:50:24.89
And he told me, "We just
don't do evangelism like that."
00:50:24.92\00:50:28.79
And so you asked him.
00:50:28.82\00:50:30.16
And I said, "Oh,
so what do you do?"
00:50:30.19\00:50:31.69
And he goes, "Well, we
have weekend events, you know,
00:50:31.73\00:50:34.40
on health topics or
family things, topics."
00:50:34.43\00:50:38.53
And I said, "Oh, so how
is that working out for you?"
00:50:38.57\00:50:41.97
And he said, "It isn't."
00:50:42.00\00:50:43.67
And he said, "In
all of last year,
00:50:43.71\00:50:46.31
we had 250
baptisms, 240 baptisms,
00:50:46.34\00:50:51.51
and they had 250 members
die, so actually it was..."
00:50:51.55\00:50:55.98
Oh, boy, net loss. A net loss.
00:50:56.02\00:50:58.55
And so this
really impacted them,
00:50:58.59\00:51:01.02
and even just this last
week, I received a message
00:51:01.06\00:51:05.39
via Facebook from
one of our speakers
00:51:05.43\00:51:08.26
that went from Japan to Mindoro,
00:51:08.30\00:51:11.03
and she said, "I just
want to tell you again,
00:51:11.07\00:51:13.70
this has changed my life."
00:51:13.74\00:51:15.54
Amen. Praise the Lord.
00:51:15.57\00:51:17.07
Right now, we're broadcasting
from Peter Landless,
00:51:17.11\00:51:19.87
he gave us his health message
00:51:19.91\00:51:21.24
which we're
broadcasting health messages
00:51:21.28\00:51:23.48
all across Tokyo, the
largest city in the world.
00:51:23.51\00:51:26.25
And then they'll be
driven to health seminars
00:51:26.28\00:51:28.02
to the churches, and
then they'll be invited,
00:51:28.05\00:51:29.95
then bridge seminars to
come to prophecy seminars
00:51:29.98\00:51:33.62
in the churches.
00:51:33.66\00:51:35.22
In the month of May,
00:51:35.26\00:51:36.73
there will be a
167 meetings in Japan,
00:51:36.76\00:51:43.26
the first time in the
history of that country
00:51:43.30\00:51:45.77
supported by
Adventist World Radio.
00:51:45.80\00:51:47.14
That's exciting.
Isn't that thrilling?
00:51:47.17\00:51:48.50
Praise God. That's thrilling.
00:51:48.54\00:51:49.87
That's total member
involvement in AWR to get...
00:51:49.90\00:51:51.37
You know, I knew this
was going to be happen.
00:51:51.41\00:51:52.74
We are down to the
nether end of this program
00:51:52.77\00:51:54.64
so fast somebody
here is talking a lot,
00:51:54.68\00:51:58.78
for which we praise the Lord.
00:51:58.81\00:52:00.35
But I want to get
your contact information
00:52:00.38\00:52:01.75
now before our time runs out.
00:52:01.78\00:52:03.12
Because if you want
to support their work,
00:52:03.15\00:52:05.42
if you want to know
more about their work,
00:52:05.45\00:52:07.06
if you want to
have them come in maybe
00:52:07.09\00:52:09.46
breathe some life
into your congregation,
00:52:09.49\00:52:11.86
here's the contact information
for Adventist World Radio.
00:52:11.89\00:52:16.50
If you would like
to find out more about
00:52:16.53\00:52:18.47
Adventist World Radio
or their various projects,
00:52:18.50\00:52:22.00
or if you'd like to support them
00:52:22.04\00:52:23.44
by getting involved in spreading
00:52:23.47\00:52:25.01
the gospels through radio,
00:52:25.04\00:52:26.74
please visit
their website, awr.org.
00:52:26.78\00:52:30.58
Their website again is awr.org.
00:52:30.61\00:52:34.28
You may also reach them
by email at cami@awr.org
00:52:34.32\00:52:39.29
or call them at
area code (301) 680-6304.
00:52:39.32\00:52:45.53
If you prefer, you
may write to them at AWR,
00:52:45.56\00:52:48.96
12501 Old Columbia Pike,
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904.
00:52:49.00\00:52:55.20