I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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We are so glad
that you have joined us.
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We appreciate your
faithfulness, your prayers,
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your financial support
for the ministry of 3ABN.
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And I know that today,
you're going to be inspired,
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encouraged in your
walk with Jesus Christ.
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We have an amazing testimony
today to share with you,
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and I tell you it's a blessing
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to be in the
Lord's work, isn't it?
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Because together as a team,
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we can help spread the
gospel around the world.
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And our guest today
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has gone through some
challenges in his life,
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but God has strengthened
him through it, and he has...
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I don't know if it's a
ministry be the right word,
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but written a book,
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and this is not a
book advertisement program
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today at all.
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But God has
inspired through him a tool
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that we know that
you can use as well.
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Amen.
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I'm so excited about our
guest and about this program
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because we always
want to feature ministries.
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We want to feature testimonies
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of what God is doing in
and through people's life.
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And our special guest
today is Dr. Frank Hasel,
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and you are an
associate director
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at the Biblical
Research Institute
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for the General Conference.
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And it's just a
privilege to have you here.
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It's a joy to be with you.
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Now, you're a doctor,
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I see at the end of
your name, it says PhD.
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PhD in what?
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It's a PhD in
Systematic Theology,
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what they call,
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so I ideal with
our fundamental beliefs
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and teachings of the Bible.
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And I wrote my dissertation
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on the use of
scripture in theology.
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Everybody uses the Bible
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yet come to completely
different conclusions,
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why is that?
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So I looked a
little bit into that.
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Yes, okay.
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God has led you on
an amazing journey.
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I had the privilege to
sit down with Dr. Hasel
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just before the program,
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and if you've
ever been through pain,
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and I have to say
that's probably all of us
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have experienced some
sort of pain in our lives,
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this program is for you.
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He suffered a loss in his life,
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and he's going to share
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how God brought
him through that.
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Some of the
questions that you experience
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in the middle of
that, and prayer,
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how prayer was
integral in some of his healing.
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We're going to talk about that,
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but let's just
hear where you grew up,
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and a little bit
of your early years?
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Sure.
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I was born and
raised in Germany.
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And my parents are
Seventh-day Adventists.
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My father is a
pastor, evangelist,
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worked for many
years there in Germany.
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And so I grew up in a
family that believed in God
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and raised us in a godly way.
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And then later on in life,
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I did my
theological training in Germany
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at Marienhoehe in Darmstadt,
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we have a seminary there.
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I went a year to
Newbold College in England
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and spend six years
at Andrews University
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in Michigan, Berrien Springs.
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That's wonderful.
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And then you met and married
your wife and started a family.
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I met and married my wife
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and that's a
whole different story.
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Yes, you know...
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So in a nutshell, you met where?
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Was it at a church?
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No, it was at a youth camp,
actually she sing in a choir,
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and that's
where I first met her,
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and they had some
outreach programs,
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singing songs, and
giving testimonies,
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and I got very
interested in her.
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And over the years
friendship developed
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and which
actually led to marriage.
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Were you teenagers
when you first met?
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Yes, yes.
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Okay.
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And some of his
testimony is the fact
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that several years
ago he lost his wife.
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And we are going
to... She passed way.
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Thank you.
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And we're going to talk
about some of that journey,
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but before we get to
that we have a scripture
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that we want to share.
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This is Dr. Hasel, is
this your favorite scripture
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or one of your favorite?
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One of my favorite.
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I have several, but
that's on the top list.
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Yes.
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This is
Lamentations 3:22, 23, 24,
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"Through the Lord's
mercies we are not consumed
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because His
compassions fail not.
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They are new every morning,
great is Your faithfulness.
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The Lord is my
portion, says my soul,
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'Therefore I hope in Him!'"
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Why does that
scripture mean so much to you?
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Because it really describes
my own experience with God
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in a last couple of
years after I lost my wife.
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She had cancer, breast cancer.
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And we were married for about
20, 21 years, happily married.
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And then she found out
about this terrible sickness,
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and we tried to battle
it as good as we could.
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And, you know, how it goes,
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you know, once the word spreads,
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you get calls
from all over the place
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and people have recommendations
of things and therapies
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that promise to
work miracles kind of.
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And we tried everything,
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and nothing helped.
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You know, we prayed.
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In fact, my wife
asked for an anointment
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and she had two anointments
at the beginning of her sickness
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and towards the
end of her ordeal.
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And she still didn't make it,
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you know, and she died, finally,
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not even a year after she
found out that she had cancer.
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Oh, less than one year.
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Less than one
year. Oh, that's fast.
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Wow.
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So that is a very
painful experience.
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And all of a sudden I was
faced to be a single parent
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with three children, three sons.
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How old when she passed?
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The oldest was 19, 16, and 11.
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Wow. Yeah.
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And when you have to
juggle different heads
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at the same time that
you were not used to before,
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it's quite a challenge.
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You know, you
have to work full time,
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you have to take
care of the children,
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you have to take
care of household,
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and very mundane things
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that need to be
accomplished and done.
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It's a challenge
and it's not so easy.
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But I have to say, I'm
very grateful for church.
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I worked as a
pastor for many years
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and when you're in
a leadership positions
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as a pastor and administration,
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you get to know some things
and details about the church
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that sometimes are not so nice.
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But in that
situation, I have to say,
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I really
experienced the goodness
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and the blessing you have
of being in the fellowship,
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in the church
with the people of God,
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and brothers and sisters.
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Let me just share
with you one little detail
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that was very meaningful to me
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because you have to
learn so many new things,
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one thing you have to learn,
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I have to learn
is to accept help.
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That's hard. It's
very easy to offer help.
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That's easily done.
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It's a little more challenging
to offer a helpful help,
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not every help that
is offered is helpful.
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That's true.
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And then it's even
greater challenge to accept help
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because you open up
your privacy in ways
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that you have not allowed
other people to see before.
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And you have to be
willing to accept that
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and to learn, to accept help,
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but then you can
experience tremendous things.
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And one of the challenges
I faced was that I learned
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and I read that
especially for smaller children
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if one of the parents passes,
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the most challenging
part in the remaining family
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is to give children constancy,
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consistency in
the daily routines,
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rather than being
send off to grandma
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and this
friend, and this friend,
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and so forth, and
they have changing people
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that constantly
change, you know.
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And so I thought one of
the most important things
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for me to accomplish
that is common meals, lunch,
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you know,
breakfast, lunch, dinner.
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And I'm not a
good cook, my wife was.
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And I've never
burned water, you know,
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but beyond those basic things,
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you know, that was a challenge
because if you work fulltime
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and then you have
to prepare a meal,
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a good meal, you know,
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and spend time in the kitchen,
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and it's a great
logistical challenge to do that
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if you've never
experienced that.
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So I had one person in
the church and she said,
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"Is there anything
I can help for you?"
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And I said, "Yes, I'd
like to eat with my children
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on a regular basis."
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And she said, "You know
what, I take care of that.
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I will organize in the church,
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and I will talk
to different people,
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you don't have to do a thing.
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And they will provide a
full meal for you every day.
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They come to your door,
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they place it at
the front of the door,
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you don't even
have to open the door,
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you don't even
have to talk to them."
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You know, in times like that,
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often, you don't feel
like talking, you know,
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and then people come
and they mean it well,
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but it's not so easy on you
so they left the food there.
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I had a wonderful
meal, I cleaned the dishes,
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I left the food and the
dishes in front of the door,
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they picked it up again,
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I didn't have
to travel anything.
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And they did this for
the three most crucial days
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of my work week.
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And they did this
for... Wow! Yeah, for how long?
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For several months.
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Wow! Wow!
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It's incredible dedication.
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And that really was helpful,
help for me in my situation.
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And it showed me that
there is love in the church,
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and there is something,
you know, where people cared
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and where they did something
that really was helpful for me
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in that situation
that I found myself in.
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Wow!
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Yeah, that's powerful already
that he shared, isn't it?
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I tell you, it's just amazing,
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I know that Dr. Hasel has
been through tremendous loss
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and you at home too,
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as Jill was mentioning earlier,
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many people, many of you have
experienced tremendous loss.
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So as we continue to
unpackage Dr. Hasel's testimony
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and how he found
help and healing from God.
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I can't wait to hear more.
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But we want to go to some music,
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and we have Mary
Grace with us today.
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And she's going to be playing
on the piano a beautiful song
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entitled, "Lord Be Glorified".
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Wow, thank you
so much, Mary Grace.
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I tell you, God is
using you in a powerful way.
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Thank you for
sharing your music with us,
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and what a great song,
"Lord Be Glorified in My Life".
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You know, we're all vessels
and we represent Jesus Christ
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to the world to those
we come in contact with,
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whether you know
them by name or not,
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it could be in the
grocery store and you just,
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how you react,
how you live your life
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is an example for Jesus
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so I pray that in my
life, "Lord Be Glorified."
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If you're just now joining
us, we have Dr. Hasel with us,
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and he was sharing with us
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just a very tragic event
that took place in his life.
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His wife was
diagnosed with breast cancer
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a few years ago,
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and she passed
away less than a year
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after she was diagnosed.
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You had three
teenage sons in the house.
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One pre-teen. Yeah, pre-teen.
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Yeah, 11 years
old was the youngest.
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That's right.
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And you're talking
about in your own life
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just people helping
from your local church
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and how much that meant to you.
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And so picking up with that,
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I know, Jill and I know
people that are close to us
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that have had a very tremendous
loss such as a spouse.
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And sometimes, one can
almost feel a bit uncomfortable,
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and so I want to just
touch on that because like,
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"Oh, I don't know what to say."
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I know that he's going
through tremendous grief.
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What do I do? How do I say?
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What do I tell you?
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Do I say anything
just maybe you're hurt.
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I know the feeling,
I've been there myself,
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and I felt the same insecurity,
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and not knowing what
to say and how to relate.
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But here's what
helped me in that situation.
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Sometimes you think, you know,
that if you address the issue
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or talk about the
person, it brings up the pain
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and it makes it even
harder on the person.
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No, it was not
like that with me.
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In fact, the
most comforting things
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were when people shared
memories they had with my wife.
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Things that they remember it,
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little details,
little encounters
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that they had with her.
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I found those stories
the most healing stories
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because it helped me to see
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the impact she
had on other lives,
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and how she was
remembered with other people.
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There is an Irish proverb
that goes something like this.
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It says, "Death leaves
a sorrow no one can heal,
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but love creates a
memory no one can steal."
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Oh, that's beautiful.
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That is beautiful.
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And it's those memories,
you know, that you recount,
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and that you remember
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that become very
meaningful for you
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even in dealing
with a loss like that.
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And, so I think the love
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and what love does
really is something beautiful.
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It creates memories that
stay with you and stick with you
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in life and even beyond.
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And that has been
very meaningful to me.
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You know, I want to
ask you a question here too
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'cause you had
children in the home,
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how would you deal
with the young people,
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because, okay,
let's say I've got...
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Let's say, I'm
thinking of your 11-year old,
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so your 11-year
old has a friend,
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how would young people
relate to young people?
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Did your sons talk
to you much about that?
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Do they want to
remember mom, bring up memories,
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or was it too painful for them?
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Well, every person
relates different at the end.
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All of my sons
reacted differently.
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I was the most concerned
about my youngest child,
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but he apparently did
well the best, you know.
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The oldest he had
been out of the country,
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he worked as a
student missionary
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in Guadalupe in the Caribbean,
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while my wife got sick.
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And he struggled the
strongest with her loss
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from all I could tell.
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And, so every
person is different
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and not every child is
able to express his feelings
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about a loss like that.
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I still remember
talking with my doctor
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about my
youngest son and I said,
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"Well, I tried to open up
for them an opportunity to talk
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and that he is rather quiet."
00:19:06.37\00:19:08.08
And he says, "Well, what do
you expect from an 11-year old,
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how can he voice that?"
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So I had to learn to
accept people even my children
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as they are in their walk
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and in their
dealing with suffering.
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And it takes years,
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you know, you
cannot speed it up,
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I mean, it just
takes times to go through
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different phases of
loss and coping with loss.
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Grieving too, isn't
it? Grieving, yes, exactly.
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And grieving really,
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what helped me
to understand grieve
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is because you
grieve because you love.
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If there is no love,
you don't feel grief,
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you know, you feel
stronger grief for those people
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you know whom you loved.
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So grief actually is
an expression of our love
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for the person who
is no longer there.
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And so that is an important part
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of dealing with loss like that.
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So how did this impact
your faith, your trust of God?
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We've been talking about
how it impacted your sons,
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and how the church
members came around
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and really were helpful to
you during this time of loss.
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But what happened with
your faith during this time?
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Oh, it impacted my
faith significantly
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and greatly in many respects.
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When you go through
something like that,
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you inevitably have
some difficult questions,
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tough questions,
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questions for which you
don't have easy answers.
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Now people tend...
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People have a hard time
dealing with open questions
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where they don't have an answer
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and they tend to find
solutions, connections,
00:20:49.18\00:20:53.08
why this had to
happen this way and that way
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in order to make it
easier for them to understand
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why something happened.
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But I believe there are
things in life that happened
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for which we don't
have a good answer.
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Yes.
00:21:07.33\00:21:08.66
I mean, we live in a
sinful world that is imperfect
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and we're faced with things
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for which we in this
life don't have an answer,
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not a satisfactory answer.
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So I don't know why my
wife had to die, you know?
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And then people
come, they mean it well,
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"You know, she
died so that you can,
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you know, experience
what other people feel,"
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you know, and things like that.
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Sure.
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No question about it.
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But I think God
could have taught me
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some other way as well
00:21:41.73\00:21:43.06
without the loss
of my wife as well.
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Yes.
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So I don't think
that was the reason
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why she had to die
and why she died in fact.
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So, some of the
tough questions you come,
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come across are the
so called why questions,
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why did that have to happen,
why her, why this and that.
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And, fortunately my wife and I,
00:22:02.88\00:22:05.25
we were able to talk
about things like that
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before she passed away.
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And to us it was
absolutely clear in our minds
00:22:08.99\00:22:15.10
that God is good.
00:22:15.13\00:22:19.27
We were absolutely
sure that God has the power
00:22:19.30\00:22:22.04
and the ability to
heal if He chooses to do so,
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but if chooses not to do
so, He's still good, we felt,
00:22:25.97\00:22:29.58
and we still wanted
to trust Him because...
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See, the questions we had
were a different why questions.
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The questions we raised is,
00:22:43.19\00:22:45.23
why shouldn't that happen to us?
00:22:45.26\00:22:47.96
Why should something like that
happen only to other people?
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Why shouldn't we get sick?
00:22:51.53\00:22:53.54
Why shouldn't we
die of things, you know?
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After all we
live in a sinful world
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and we are affected by
sins even though we live healthy
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and we do everything
we can to avoid sickness
00:23:02.54\00:23:06.82
and things like that,
00:23:06.85\00:23:08.95
yet we are not immune to that.
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Yes.
00:23:10.42\00:23:11.75
So I think, if
people follow God only
00:23:11.79\00:23:15.42
because they
hope not to get sick
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or hope to avoid this or that,
00:23:18.03\00:23:20.10
I think they follow
Him for the wrong reasons.
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Yes.
00:23:22.26\00:23:23.60
And we need to
learn to trust God
00:23:23.63\00:23:26.94
even though we don't have
00:23:26.97\00:23:29.90
all the answers to
our questions, you know.
00:23:29.94\00:23:32.51
Even though I
don't have the answer
00:23:32.54\00:23:34.31
to all of my questions,
00:23:34.34\00:23:35.68
I know the one who has.
00:23:35.71\00:23:38.05
And even though
He has not shared
00:23:38.08\00:23:39.41
all the answers with me yet,
00:23:39.45\00:23:41.88
I still know He is
good, He can be trusted,
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and He is faithful.
00:23:44.29\00:23:45.99
And that I think is a lesson
00:23:46.02\00:23:47.92
that I learned from
that whole experience
00:23:47.96\00:23:49.99
that became very
meaningful to me.
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Often we ask why
questions, "Why me?"
00:23:52.79\00:23:56.56
But instead, you're
saying, "Why not us?
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Why not me?"
00:23:59.87\00:24:01.20
Exactly. Yeah, it's powerful.
00:24:01.24\00:24:02.57
That's life transformation
when you think about it.
00:24:02.60\00:24:04.64
I trust God,
00:24:04.67\00:24:06.01
no matter what
happens, I still trust Him.
00:24:06.04\00:24:07.94
Yes, but many people they have
a hard time trusting God fully.
00:24:07.98\00:24:13.01
You know, when you talk to them,
00:24:13.05\00:24:14.38
"Do you think God is good?"
00:24:14.42\00:24:15.75
They'll say, "Oh, yeah,
00:24:15.78\00:24:17.12
I believe God
is good, you know."
00:24:17.15\00:24:18.49
Yeah, we hear in the
church a lot of times,
00:24:18.52\00:24:19.85
God is good all the time.
00:24:19.89\00:24:21.22
God is good all
the time, you know.
00:24:21.26\00:24:22.59
And then they would
even say, "Oh, He is good,
00:24:22.62\00:24:25.19
He is not only good,
He is very good indeed,
00:24:25.23\00:24:27.70
He is very good very
often, but not always."
00:24:27.73\00:24:32.60
See, and that is
the crucial point,
00:24:32.63\00:24:34.04
if He is very good, very often,
00:24:34.07\00:24:37.01
but not always,
how can you trust Him
00:24:37.04\00:24:39.11
in just those moments
when you really need it.
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Then you can't trust Him,
00:24:42.51\00:24:43.85
then you first need an
answer to the why question
00:24:43.88\00:24:45.71
before you can trust Him, right?
00:24:45.75\00:24:47.68
And that's the situation
00:24:47.72\00:24:49.05
that many people
are in, I feel it.
00:24:49.08\00:24:50.92
And it is so
crucial to see that the God,
00:24:50.95\00:24:57.09
the Bible describes is a
God that can be fully trusted.
00:24:57.13\00:25:00.80
I mean, He has done everything
00:25:00.83\00:25:03.26
that we have every
reason to believe He is good.
00:25:03.30\00:25:06.23
And He showed it in
His Son Jesus Christ,
00:25:06.27\00:25:08.37
you know, what better
example could you give.
00:25:08.40\00:25:11.27
He suffered, He even
died, He went through pain,
00:25:11.31\00:25:15.14
He knows how we feel.
00:25:15.18\00:25:17.58
You know, and He is a
God that can be trusted
00:25:17.61\00:25:22.32
through and through
that is my firm conviction.
00:25:22.35\00:25:25.25
How do you trust
God then when someone,
00:25:25.29\00:25:27.92
because I'm thinking somebody
at home that's right now,
00:25:27.96\00:25:29.62
there is someone right now
00:25:29.66\00:25:30.99
in the midst of a terrible
circumstance in their life,
00:25:31.03\00:25:34.46
and they're just now saying,
00:25:34.50\00:25:37.10
"I'm trying to trust, I
don't know how to trust."
00:25:37.13\00:25:39.50
What do you have to say to them?
00:25:39.53\00:25:40.87
Well, that's how
you usually feel,
00:25:40.90\00:25:43.27
you know, I'm not
the big faith hero,
00:25:43.30\00:25:46.51
I'm not the one
who has a strong faith.
00:25:46.54\00:25:49.84
You say, you know, I
believe help my unbelief.
00:25:49.88\00:25:53.85
You know, but you just
open up your heart to God.
00:25:53.88\00:25:57.45
You just be honest with Him,
00:25:57.49\00:25:58.99
don't pretend you
have everything in control,
00:25:59.02\00:26:03.12
just be honest,
tell Him what you face,
00:26:03.16\00:26:05.53
tell Him your deficiencies,
tell Him your fears,
00:26:05.56\00:26:09.53
and your insecurities.
00:26:09.56\00:26:10.90
And ask God to take care of that
00:26:10.93\00:26:14.24
and help you nevertheless
and He will not let you down.
00:26:14.27\00:26:17.54
Amen. You know, that's good.
00:26:17.57\00:26:20.34
Let me share one thing that
became very meaningful to me
00:26:20.38\00:26:23.24
in that whole thing.
00:26:23.28\00:26:24.61
If you go through an
experience like that,
00:26:24.65\00:26:26.51
your whole mindset is negative,
00:26:26.55\00:26:28.55
you know, you're
focusing on the loss,
00:26:28.58\00:26:31.09
you're focusing on things
that you can no longer enjoy,
00:26:31.12\00:26:34.19
you're focusing on things that
no longer are there, you know,
00:26:34.22\00:26:38.79
and you focus
00:26:38.83\00:26:40.50
on the
deficiencies and the negatives.
00:26:40.53\00:26:44.00
But something
helped me really to develop
00:26:44.03\00:26:46.84
an attitude of gratitude,
00:26:46.87\00:26:49.54
and I describe
that in my book...
00:26:49.57\00:26:53.54
Actually the book grew
out of that experience.
00:26:53.58\00:26:56.71
Somebody has said, you
know, good books are not written
00:26:56.75\00:26:59.31
in times of
pleasure, but under pressure.
00:26:59.35\00:27:03.15
And the pressure I was facing
helped me to write the book
00:27:03.18\00:27:08.16
Longing For God
because it expresses something
00:27:08.19\00:27:10.49
that was deep in my heart
00:27:10.53\00:27:12.29
to have that
fellowship with God.
00:27:12.33\00:27:15.50
And it leads people
00:27:15.53\00:27:16.93
into reading the
Bible for themselves.
00:27:16.97\00:27:19.80
Because I see the
book, and I have a copy here,
00:27:19.83\00:27:22.04
it says, "A prayer
and Bible journal."
00:27:22.07\00:27:25.01
So how was prayer
and study of God's Word
00:27:25.04\00:27:28.31
pivotal in your journal?
00:27:28.34\00:27:29.68
I tell you there is no
other book on this planet
00:27:29.71\00:27:31.95
like the Bible.
00:27:31.98\00:27:33.68
There is no other
book that can comfort you,
00:27:33.72\00:27:36.12
that can give you hope,
00:27:36.15\00:27:37.82
that can give
you new perspectives
00:27:37.85\00:27:39.59
when you're down.
00:27:39.62\00:27:40.96
There is no other book
00:27:40.99\00:27:42.32
that gives you the joy
of salvation, you know.
00:27:42.36\00:27:46.73
There is no equal to the Bible.
00:27:46.76\00:27:49.53
The Bible ennobles you.
00:27:49.56\00:27:51.77
It gives you an ethic
00:27:51.80\00:27:55.37
that is beyond
everything we know.
00:27:55.40\00:27:57.41
It helps you to
be a faithful person.
00:27:57.44\00:28:01.01
And the beauty of the Bible
is, it's not just information,
00:28:01.04\00:28:07.35
in the Bible you
get to know the God,
00:28:07.38\00:28:09.55
the living God who inspired
the Word of God, you know.
00:28:09.58\00:28:12.85
And that really is
what this book is all about.
00:28:12.89\00:28:18.79
I want to help people
read the Bible for themselves
00:28:18.83\00:28:21.60
in a meaningful way,
00:28:21.63\00:28:23.26
to jot down
ideas that come to you
00:28:23.30\00:28:25.93
as you read the Bible
and to pray to this God
00:28:25.97\00:28:29.57
in new and meaningful ways
00:28:29.60\00:28:31.61
that will enrich your
prayer life significantly.
00:28:31.64\00:28:34.48
It has helped me
in that situation
00:28:34.51\00:28:37.58
and far beyond.
00:28:37.61\00:28:39.48
And so this is actually
what the book is all about
00:28:39.51\00:28:42.22
and so it's not just empty pages
00:28:42.25\00:28:45.59
where you'll
write down as a journal,
00:28:45.62\00:28:47.66
but at the end of every month
12 times throughout the year
00:28:47.69\00:28:50.99
I have a short chapter on prayer
00:28:51.03\00:28:53.63
where I shared
from my own experience,
00:28:53.66\00:28:56.33
everything in the
book that I write,
00:28:56.36\00:28:58.77
I have tested and tried
in my own life and it worked.
00:28:58.80\00:29:03.30
And this one thing
at the end of February
00:29:03.34\00:29:06.11
is thanking God.
00:29:06.14\00:29:10.11
You know, how do you thank
God in a situation like that
00:29:10.15\00:29:12.85
when you
experience significant loss.
00:29:12.88\00:29:15.32
You're not even in
the mood of thanking God.
00:29:15.35\00:29:17.12
Exactly. It
doesn't even seem natural.
00:29:17.15\00:29:18.55
You don't even want
to thank Him, you know.
00:29:18.59\00:29:21.39
And so you develop an attitude
00:29:21.42\00:29:23.69
of ingratitude
of grief, of anger.
00:29:23.73\00:29:30.20
And somebody told me,
you know, start something,
00:29:30.23\00:29:33.94
it's very simple,
it's very powerful,
00:29:33.97\00:29:36.00
the only
deficiency is, it's free,
00:29:36.04\00:29:40.08
it doesn't cost you a penny,
00:29:40.11\00:29:41.44
you know, you don't
have to pay for that.
00:29:41.48\00:29:43.65
But if you can live with that
00:29:43.68\00:29:45.35
and you give it a
try, it's very simple.
00:29:45.38\00:29:48.38
Every day take a sheet of paper
00:29:48.42\00:29:51.25
and write down 10 words
00:29:51.29\00:29:55.76
for which you can
be thankful for Him.
00:29:55.79\00:29:57.73
Yes, I like that.
00:29:57.76\00:29:59.36
Now, if you're in a
situation like that,
00:29:59.39\00:30:03.16
nothing comes to your
mind for which you're thankful.
00:30:03.20\00:30:05.33
Of course.
00:30:05.37\00:30:06.87
You really have to think.
00:30:06.90\00:30:08.84
But there are some basic things
00:30:08.87\00:30:10.57
that even in the
situation like that
00:30:10.61\00:30:13.21
you can be thankful for,
00:30:13.24\00:30:14.84
you can say, "I'm
thankful for my eyes."
00:30:14.88\00:30:17.91
You know, "I'm
thankful for my hands.
00:30:17.95\00:30:21.35
I'm thankful for my bed.
00:30:21.38\00:30:23.18
I'm thankful for my toothbrush."
00:30:23.22\00:30:25.12
You know, little
things like that.
00:30:25.15\00:30:26.69
So you write down 10 words
00:30:26.72\00:30:28.86
and then it's not just
enough to write down 10 words,
00:30:28.89\00:30:33.96
you create a little
sentence from that word,
00:30:34.00\00:30:39.37
and you create a sentence
where you express the reason
00:30:39.40\00:30:42.94
why you're
thankful for your eyes.
00:30:42.97\00:30:45.87
"Lord, I'm thankful for my eyes
00:30:45.91\00:30:48.11
because with my
eyes I'm able to see,
00:30:48.14\00:30:51.41
I'm able to read,
00:30:51.45\00:30:53.11
I'm able to see the colors,
and the beauty of the life.
00:30:53.15\00:30:56.25
And thankful for my hands,
with my hands I can write,
00:30:56.28\00:31:00.79
with my hands I can
touch another person,
00:31:00.82\00:31:02.72
with my hands I can do good.
00:31:02.76\00:31:04.53
I'm thankful for my bed,
00:31:04.56\00:31:05.89
that I don't have to
sleep on the floor," you know?
00:31:05.93\00:31:09.10
So you create a short sentence
00:31:09.13\00:31:11.47
expressing the reason
why you're thankful for.
00:31:11.50\00:31:14.97
And there is a little
psychological thing to that
00:31:15.00\00:31:20.84
because the more senses
00:31:20.88\00:31:23.85
seeing, hearing,
touching are involved...
00:31:23.88\00:31:26.11
Like your five
senses. Yeah, wow!
00:31:26.15\00:31:28.45
The five senses are
involved in expressing
00:31:28.48\00:31:31.02
gratefulness and thankfulness.
00:31:31.05\00:31:32.95
The better it is, you
know, anchored in your mind.
00:31:32.99\00:31:36.89
So you would actually then
read these out loud probably.
00:31:36.93\00:31:38.96
Exactly. So
you'll hear your voice...
00:31:38.99\00:31:40.33
So you write it,
you see it, you read it,
00:31:40.36\00:31:44.43
you speak it, you hear it.
00:31:44.47\00:31:46.13
Amen. Wow.
00:31:46.17\00:31:47.64
And you have 10 reasons
to be thankful for that day.
00:31:47.67\00:31:50.61
The next day, you
take a new sheet of paper.
00:31:50.64\00:31:52.71
There have to be 10 new or
can you copy any of the old?
00:31:52.74\00:31:55.74
And you think about 10 new ones.
00:31:55.78\00:31:57.45
Oh, wow!
00:31:57.48\00:31:58.81
Ten new ones.
00:31:58.85\00:32:00.42
And you go through the
same procedure, you know,
00:32:00.45\00:32:03.79
and then the third day
you think about 10 new ones.
00:32:03.82\00:32:08.52
If you want to
intensify the experience,
00:32:08.56\00:32:11.59
you repeat the ones
from the previous days.
00:32:11.63\00:32:15.06
But even if you don't,
00:32:15.10\00:32:16.60
at the end of one
week, just one week,
00:32:16.63\00:32:19.50
you have 70 reasons why
you're thankful for Him.
00:32:19.53\00:32:24.04
Wow.
00:32:24.07\00:32:25.41
It won't take even a month
00:32:25.44\00:32:27.11
until your whole
attitude changes.
00:32:27.14\00:32:29.61
Did you do this?
00:32:29.64\00:32:30.98
I did that and I
learned it from my aunt,
00:32:31.01\00:32:34.12
she lost her husband
in a tragic car accident
00:32:34.15\00:32:37.65
a number of years ago.
00:32:37.69\00:32:39.42
And she practice that
and I admired for that
00:32:39.45\00:32:42.26
and she said,
"Frank, give it a try."
00:32:42.29\00:32:43.96
And I tried it and
really helped me to develop
00:32:43.99\00:32:47.36
an attitude of
gratitude, you know.
00:32:47.40\00:32:49.40
Gratitude expresses your
appreciation for something
00:32:49.43\00:32:53.00
that somebody has given you,
00:32:53.03\00:32:55.77
for something that
has enriched your life,
00:32:55.80\00:32:57.74
for something that you
don't deserve, you know,
00:32:57.77\00:33:00.28
and it helps you
to gain an outlook
00:33:00.31\00:33:04.08
that is more positive
00:33:04.11\00:33:05.45
rather than focusing on
things that are no longer there,
00:33:05.48\00:33:08.25
you focus on the
things that are still there,
00:33:08.28\00:33:11.15
and that give you a
reason to be thankful for it.
00:33:11.19\00:33:13.89
So that is a
powerful, powerful tool
00:33:13.92\00:33:17.09
that can help you
really change your life around
00:33:17.13\00:33:20.46
and be more positive.
00:33:20.50\00:33:23.37
You know, I was
thinking about that
00:33:23.40\00:33:24.73
even for someone that maybe
00:33:24.77\00:33:26.10
is not even going
through a loss this would be...
00:33:26.13\00:33:27.50
Absolutely. We all need this.
00:33:27.54\00:33:28.87
Yeah, absolutely. Wow.
00:33:28.90\00:33:30.24
Yeah, maybe you're
feeling little lower,
00:33:30.27\00:33:31.74
little down, or whatever.
00:33:31.77\00:33:33.44
This is just a
great daily practice
00:33:33.48\00:33:35.38
and really it's thanking God
00:33:35.41\00:33:36.75
because He is good,
and He'll take care of us.
00:33:36.78\00:33:39.21
How many days into it...
00:33:39.25\00:33:40.75
I'm sorry. Go for it.
00:33:40.78\00:33:42.12
Did you notice a change
in your own mental attitude?
00:33:42.15\00:33:46.39
Just a couple of days, I
mean, it's not something bam
00:33:46.42\00:33:49.39
and now you're
differently pulled, you know,
00:33:49.42\00:33:52.39
and you think differently,
00:33:52.43\00:33:53.76
no, but once you practice that,
00:33:53.80\00:33:55.76
you get into a habit,
00:33:55.80\00:33:58.53
you develop
something that helps you
00:33:58.57\00:34:02.67
to just think differently
00:34:02.70\00:34:04.57
and to look at life
with different eyes.
00:34:04.61\00:34:06.54
You know, I was
thinking that would probably
00:34:06.57\00:34:07.91
because it becomes
a habit so to speak,
00:34:07.94\00:34:09.38
it's just your
natural inclination
00:34:09.41\00:34:11.05
so you could even be
driving down the road
00:34:11.08\00:34:12.55
when you're not
supposed to be driving
00:34:12.58\00:34:14.15
or riding or
texting or anything.
00:34:14.18\00:34:15.88
And you can just say, "Oh,
God thank you so much for,"
00:34:15.92\00:34:18.22
whatever the scenery.
00:34:18.25\00:34:19.99
Absolutely.
00:34:20.02\00:34:21.36
Yeah, then your whole
outlook on life changes.
00:34:21.39\00:34:23.29
Yes. Well, I like that a lot.
00:34:23.32\00:34:24.66
And there is so much
beauty in life even now,
00:34:24.69\00:34:28.93
you know, even
if you experience.
00:34:28.96\00:34:31.23
You know, when you go
through pain and loss like that,
00:34:31.27\00:34:34.07
life is not
beautiful anymore, it's dull,
00:34:34.10\00:34:38.21
and you don't enjoy life,
00:34:38.24\00:34:40.38
you don't even enjoy the colors.
00:34:40.41\00:34:42.48
But through that,
you know, you develop
00:34:42.51\00:34:44.31
a new perspective on things
00:34:44.35\00:34:45.88
and it's life transforming.
00:34:45.91\00:34:48.15
One of the things, as I
was looking through the book,
00:34:48.18\00:34:49.58
that I really like is that you
incorporate the Holy Scripture
00:34:49.62\00:34:52.09
as you're talking
about the power of the Bible
00:34:52.12\00:34:53.96
in God's Word
00:34:53.99\00:34:55.32
and basically this is
actually a plan to read
00:34:55.36\00:34:57.13
the entire Bible
in one year as well.
00:34:57.16\00:34:59.63
And like you said, it's
not just empty pages in a book
00:34:59.66\00:35:02.30
where you're, okay,
here is my prayer request,
00:35:02.33\00:35:04.57
then here is, you
know, how God answer.
00:35:04.60\00:35:06.33
There is a lot more to this,
00:35:06.37\00:35:07.74
and there is
different exercises in here
00:35:07.77\00:35:09.54
on developing
relationship with God
00:35:09.57\00:35:12.84
reading through the scriptures.
00:35:12.87\00:35:14.21
I think it has Old and New
Testament I saw for each day
00:35:14.24\00:35:17.88
as you're reading from.
00:35:17.91\00:35:19.25
Yes, for every day of the year
00:35:19.28\00:35:20.62
you have a small
passage from the Old Testament
00:35:20.65\00:35:22.52
and a small passage
from the New Testament.
00:35:22.55\00:35:24.39
Yeah, I like that.
00:35:24.42\00:35:25.95
So it's a combination, you know,
00:35:25.99\00:35:29.19
and if you follow
that reading plan,
00:35:29.22\00:35:32.36
within one year,
00:35:32.39\00:35:33.73
you have read
through the entire Bible
00:35:33.76\00:35:36.06
from beginning to end.
00:35:36.10\00:35:38.00
And speaking of
reading the Bible,
00:35:38.03\00:35:39.97
I'm looking here and
this is at the end of May.
00:35:40.00\00:35:42.27
Yes.
00:35:42.30\00:35:43.64
You have a whole section
on prayers for other people.
00:35:43.67\00:35:46.14
Thirty one reasons
to pray for others,
00:35:46.17\00:35:47.94
but this is praying
scripture over people's life.
00:35:47.98\00:35:51.21
Absolutely.
00:35:51.25\00:35:52.58
Actually, in fact, this is
one of my favorite chapters
00:35:52.61\00:35:55.08
in the whole book.
00:35:55.12\00:35:56.58
And I came across that
in another book that I found
00:35:56.62\00:36:01.59
and started practicing
that with my own sons.
00:36:01.62\00:36:06.76
And just to pray with
the words of scripture
00:36:06.80\00:36:13.50
was something that I
had never practiced before.
00:36:13.54\00:36:16.10
You know, you
pray for your children,
00:36:16.14\00:36:17.77
help them in
this, help them in that,
00:36:17.81\00:36:19.51
you know, they
have an exam there,
00:36:19.54\00:36:20.88
they have a
challenge here so you pray.
00:36:20.91\00:36:23.14
But it's not
very meaningful often,
00:36:23.18\00:36:25.55
it is the same routine,
the same phrases that you use,
00:36:25.58\00:36:30.22
but if you look in the Bible
you find the Bible speaks about
00:36:30.25\00:36:34.59
many virtues
and character traits
00:36:34.62\00:36:38.09
that God is pleased in
00:36:38.13\00:36:40.10
like friendliness, or
patience, or mercy, or love,
00:36:40.13\00:36:45.63
or gladness, or kindness,
00:36:45.67\00:36:47.14
or purity, and things like that.
00:36:47.17\00:36:49.27
So I started to pray for my sons
00:36:49.30\00:36:51.24
and for my children every day
for one whole month, 31 days,
00:36:51.27\00:36:56.51
you know, a different virtue.
00:36:56.54\00:36:57.98
Today, I'd like Jonathan
to be a man who is friendly,
00:36:58.01\00:37:02.18
in his dealing
with other people.
00:37:02.22\00:37:04.35
Let Florien be a
person who is faithful today
00:37:04.39\00:37:07.49
in his dealings with
other people and with you.
00:37:07.52\00:37:09.36
Let him, Daniel be a
person who is courageous today
00:37:09.39\00:37:13.03
as he faces
challenges in his life.
00:37:13.06\00:37:14.83
And you have a Bible passage,
and with the words of scripture
00:37:14.86\00:37:18.57
you can fill in
the name of the person
00:37:18.60\00:37:21.44
and read the
promise that God has given,
00:37:21.47\00:37:24.77
and it has become
very meaningful to me,
00:37:24.81\00:37:28.14
and it anchors the words
of scripture in your mind.
00:37:28.18\00:37:32.75
And it does something
not just to the children,
00:37:32.78\00:37:37.55
it does something to me.
00:37:37.59\00:37:39.69
You know, I realized
if I pray those prayers,
00:37:39.72\00:37:44.66
if they really mean anything,
00:37:44.69\00:37:48.16
I have to practice what I pray,
00:37:48.20\00:37:50.50
I have to be the kind person,
00:37:50.53\00:37:52.43
I have to be the patient person,
00:37:52.47\00:37:54.07
I have to be the loving
person I wish others to be.
00:37:54.10\00:38:00.01
It really changed something
00:38:00.04\00:38:01.58
not just with my
relationship to my children,
00:38:01.61\00:38:04.08
it changed
something in me and with me.
00:38:04.11\00:38:06.72
And then I realized,
"Hey, this is a wonderful tool,
00:38:06.75\00:38:10.92
not just for my
sons, for my children,
00:38:10.95\00:38:13.66
I can pray the same
prayers for the children
00:38:13.69\00:38:16.46
in my children
Sabbath school that I teach,
00:38:16.49\00:38:19.56
or my students that I teach,
00:38:19.59\00:38:22.46
or the coworker, or my neighbor,
00:38:22.50\00:38:26.47
or whoever that is."
00:38:26.50\00:38:28.24
You know, and if you do that,
00:38:28.27\00:38:30.91
it gives you a
perspective of the many things
00:38:30.94\00:38:34.58
that you find in the Word of God
00:38:34.61\00:38:37.41
that are life transforming,
00:38:37.45\00:38:39.55
where God longs
to see in me, in you,
00:38:39.58\00:38:42.58
in every person to be a
person of mercy, of faith,
00:38:42.62\00:38:46.39
of perseverance,
of joy, you know.
00:38:46.42\00:38:49.16
And it really does
something to yourself
00:38:49.19\00:38:51.96
and to the
relationship with other people
00:38:51.99\00:38:54.10
and it's
something for the better.
00:38:54.13\00:38:57.97
And I like how you
also said in the book
00:38:58.00\00:39:00.34
that this is really spiritual
impulses, not being like...
00:39:00.37\00:39:04.81
I think you said a
rigid, you said, prescription.
00:39:04.84\00:39:06.68
Absolutely. And I like that.
00:39:06.71\00:39:08.68
Yes, there's some people
00:39:08.71\00:39:10.15
they'd like to
have the super formula
00:39:10.18\00:39:12.75
and say if you follow
that, and bam, bam, bam, then...
00:39:12.78\00:39:16.28
You know, this
is not how it works.
00:39:16.32\00:39:19.92
But these are 12 suggestions,
you know, give it a try,
00:39:19.95\00:39:25.69
experiment with it,
see how it works with you,
00:39:25.73\00:39:28.86
modify it if need be,
you know, and improve it.
00:39:28.90\00:39:33.57
But try out something
new and experiment with that.
00:39:33.60\00:39:37.91
I think you will
be greatly benefited.
00:39:37.94\00:39:40.11
Yes, I love
praying the scripture.
00:39:40.14\00:39:42.34
I remember in my own
life in walk with God,
00:39:42.38\00:39:45.51
I didn't even know
how to do that for years.
00:39:45.55\00:39:48.05
And prayer becomes
kind of routine or like,
00:39:48.08\00:39:50.89
"Okay, now I'm going
to pray again and I'm..."
00:39:50.92\00:39:52.85
You know, and it's
almost a boring thing,
00:39:52.89\00:39:54.66
but when you realize
00:39:54.69\00:39:56.02
we can talk to the
God of the universe,
00:39:56.06\00:39:57.59
and I can open
up the Word of God,
00:39:57.63\00:39:59.49
and God calls
those things that are not
00:39:59.53\00:40:02.23
as though they already was
00:40:02.26\00:40:04.13
so you can claim
those scriptures.
00:40:04.17\00:40:06.47
God stands back of
every promise He has made,
00:40:06.50\00:40:09.54
and He can work to develop
those 31 character qualities
00:40:09.57\00:40:14.14
in your children,
or your grandchildren,
00:40:14.18\00:40:16.08
or your coworkers,
00:40:16.11\00:40:17.68
or in your own
life that is incredible.
00:40:17.71\00:40:20.95
Why don't you
read from the beginning
00:40:20.98\00:40:22.32
'cause I think he'd
mentioned about the 12
00:40:22.35\00:40:23.79
so the different months
you have like January...
00:40:23.82\00:40:25.75
January is
prayer that pleases God.
00:40:25.79\00:40:27.82
Amen.
00:40:27.86\00:40:29.22
February, we talked about that.
00:40:29.26\00:40:30.59
Yes. Thanking God.
00:40:30.63\00:40:32.86
March is praising God.
00:40:32.89\00:40:34.26
What's the difference between
thanking God and praising God?
00:40:34.30\00:40:36.63
Well, praising
God is we usually say,
00:40:36.67\00:40:40.24
"We praise and
glorify Your name."
00:40:40.27\00:40:41.90
You know, but it's
not very meaningful
00:40:41.94\00:40:44.87
so what does it mean?
00:40:44.91\00:40:46.24
If you praise
something or someone,
00:40:46.27\00:40:48.78
you usually name a quality
00:40:48.81\00:40:53.38
or something that you see
in that person next thing,
00:40:53.42\00:40:58.05
yeah, something as praiseworthy.
00:40:58.09\00:41:00.22
Well, let's say, "You
know, I drive a nice car."
00:41:00.26\00:41:03.32
And you say,
"Well, my car, you know,
00:41:03.36\00:41:05.53
the gas mileage it gets,
00:41:05.56\00:41:06.93
you know, it's
just superb, you know,
00:41:06.96\00:41:08.53
or the handling, you know."
00:41:08.56\00:41:10.07
So I'm not just
praising the car,
00:41:10.10\00:41:12.97
you know, I'm not telling you
00:41:13.00\00:41:14.47
I praise and glorify my car.
00:41:14.50\00:41:16.81
No, no, I'm talking about
specific things that I admire
00:41:16.84\00:41:20.84
that I think are just marvelous.
00:41:20.88\00:41:23.24
And I think that's
the lesson I learnt
00:41:23.28\00:41:25.65
when I thought about God.
00:41:25.68\00:41:28.08
You know, God has
many character traits
00:41:28.12\00:41:30.89
that are praiseworthy.
00:41:30.92\00:41:32.25
Let me give you an example,
you know, He is omniscient,
00:41:32.29\00:41:35.52
that means He knows everything.
00:41:35.56\00:41:38.39
Now why is that
meaningful to me?
00:41:38.43\00:41:41.53
I praise God
that He is omniscient
00:41:41.56\00:41:43.57
that He knows everything
00:41:43.60\00:41:44.93
because it tells me there
will never ever be a situation
00:41:44.97\00:41:50.84
for which God is not prepared.
00:41:50.87\00:41:53.88
There will never
ever be a situation
00:41:53.91\00:41:55.78
where He is taken by surprise.
00:41:55.81\00:41:58.08
There will never ever
be a situation in my life
00:41:58.11\00:42:00.32
where God says, "Oops!
I didn't think of that.
00:42:00.35\00:42:04.92
Now, what do we do now?"
00:42:04.95\00:42:07.96
That's not how it is,
you know, He is omniscient,
00:42:07.99\00:42:10.13
He knows everything.
00:42:10.16\00:42:12.39
And so I praise God for that,
00:42:12.43\00:42:15.10
and I just don't say I
praise You for Your omniscience,
00:42:15.13\00:42:18.77
I express what I
appreciate about it.
00:42:18.80\00:42:24.01
I express why I marvel
at that character trait.
00:42:24.04\00:42:28.04
I express why I admire
God for being that way.
00:42:28.08\00:42:33.18
And once you do that, you
know, I think you start getting
00:42:33.21\00:42:36.99
into the mood of praising God
00:42:37.02\00:42:38.85
because you don't
just praise His name,
00:42:38.89\00:42:42.52
you're specific in
what you appreciate,
00:42:42.56\00:42:45.26
and what you like,
and what you admire,
00:42:45.29\00:42:47.53
and what you think
it's marvelous in Him.
00:42:47.56\00:42:51.00
Oh, that's powerful.
00:42:51.03\00:42:52.40
I'm so excited. Oh, yes.
00:42:52.43\00:42:54.17
Because I don't do that enough.
00:42:54.20\00:42:55.54
Yeah, I thank God, but I don't
think I do this praising so...
00:42:55.57\00:42:58.71
Specific. Yes.
00:42:58.74\00:43:00.18
I'm excited to do that.
00:43:00.21\00:43:01.61
April is the A, B,
Cs of Bible prayer,
00:43:01.64\00:43:04.01
and I think that must
be ask, believe, and claim.
00:43:04.05\00:43:06.15
That's right. All right.
00:43:06.18\00:43:07.52
May is 31 reasons to pray
for others using scripture,
00:43:07.55\00:43:11.19
we talked about that.
00:43:11.22\00:43:12.62
June is praying and fasting.
00:43:12.65\00:43:15.79
July is prayer and
are waiting for an answer.
00:43:15.82\00:43:19.33
What are we to do
when we need to wait?
00:43:19.36\00:43:21.20
Well, isn't that the
experience we all have.
00:43:21.23\00:43:23.57
We usually don't like
to talk about that much
00:43:23.60\00:43:26.84
because we're embarrassed,
00:43:26.87\00:43:29.30
but I have not come
across a single Christian
00:43:29.34\00:43:32.77
who has not had the experience
00:43:32.81\00:43:34.84
that sometimes
you pray for something
00:43:34.88\00:43:36.44
that apparently God doesn't
seem to answer that prayer.
00:43:36.48\00:43:41.95
So what happens in
a situation like that?
00:43:41.98\00:43:45.75
Well, just go back
to your wife passing,
00:43:45.79\00:43:47.22
you said that when she
was sick and diagnosed,
00:43:47.26\00:43:49.86
you prayed, I'm
sure as a family,
00:43:49.89\00:43:51.23
your sons were
there, you, and your wife,
00:43:51.26\00:43:52.93
she was anointed
you said several times,
00:43:52.96\00:43:55.06
praying for her
healing, then she passes away.
00:43:55.10\00:43:57.93
That's something to
deal with. Yeah, sure.
00:43:57.97\00:43:59.70
How do you answer that question?
00:43:59.73\00:44:01.17
Well, that's a tough one
00:44:01.20\00:44:02.54
and it cannot be
answered in a single sentence,
00:44:02.57\00:44:05.87
but I think God still
hears and He understands.
00:44:05.91\00:44:11.21
And sometimes we
wish Him to do things
00:44:11.25\00:44:17.19
that He knows better.
00:44:17.22\00:44:21.56
And He has more
information at hand
00:44:21.59\00:44:24.43
than I with my
limited perspective have.
00:44:24.46\00:44:27.80
And He knows about things
that are beyond my horizon.
00:44:27.83\00:44:33.03
So does God
delight in our health?
00:44:33.07\00:44:36.97
Yes, He does.
00:44:37.01\00:44:38.54
Does God send sickness?
00:44:38.57\00:44:39.94
No, He is not a God
00:44:39.97\00:44:41.94
who delights in
sickness and pain,
00:44:41.98\00:44:43.91
Satan does.
00:44:43.95\00:44:45.78
In sickness, and
pain, and suffering
00:44:45.81\00:44:47.68
are some of the
strongest temptations to faith.
00:44:47.72\00:44:52.49
They create the strongest doubts
00:44:52.52\00:44:54.62
and they even have the potential
00:44:54.66\00:44:56.06
to make your faith go shipwreck.
00:44:56.09\00:44:59.89
And so when my wife
and I were faced with that,
00:44:59.93\00:45:03.03
we decided, you
know, it's not God
00:45:03.06\00:45:04.90
who is sending this sickness
the cancer and all of that.
00:45:04.93\00:45:10.17
It's the devil,
he delights in that,
00:45:10.21\00:45:12.37
and he would love to
see us say goodbye to God,
00:45:12.41\00:45:16.85
you know, and forsake Him.
00:45:16.88\00:45:19.15
But we decided firmly not
to give him that pleasure.
00:45:19.18\00:45:23.05
Amen. Oh, good.
00:45:23.08\00:45:24.55
We did not want to
give him the pleasure
00:45:24.59\00:45:26.76
of seeing in our
lives that we forsake God
00:45:26.79\00:45:28.99
because God has been so faithful
00:45:29.02\00:45:31.59
and He has been so
good so many years,
00:45:31.63\00:45:34.33
why should I forsake Him now.
00:45:34.36\00:45:37.20
I don't have
any reason for that.
00:45:37.23\00:45:41.57
But still you go
through a number of emotions
00:45:41.60\00:45:45.44
and even a process
of dealing with that
00:45:45.47\00:45:49.48
and this is what I
describe in that chapter
00:45:49.51\00:45:51.88
because if you
don't understand that,
00:45:51.91\00:45:53.95
you can easily get
frustrated with yourself
00:45:53.98\00:45:56.18
and with other people.
00:45:56.22\00:45:58.19
And even start questioning
God and His goodness.
00:45:58.22\00:46:03.96
And so I try to explain
in that chapter a little bit
00:46:03.99\00:46:07.80
the different
emotions that you go through.
00:46:07.83\00:46:10.53
There's a different
steps that you experience
00:46:10.57\00:46:14.64
and that ultimately hopefully
will lead to a position
00:46:14.67\00:46:18.24
where you continue to trust God
00:46:18.27\00:46:20.88
even though you might not
have all the answers to it.
00:46:20.91\00:46:23.38
I know we're going to
read more of the months
00:46:23.41\00:46:25.75
but far as the chapter titles,
00:46:25.78\00:46:27.32
but I think what's
beautiful about this, Dr. Hasel,
00:46:27.35\00:46:29.45
is God has taken
this tremendous pain
00:46:29.48\00:46:33.25
and this your process of dealing
00:46:33.29\00:46:35.56
with this whole
loss of your wife,
00:46:35.59\00:46:37.43
you know,
questions many questions,
00:46:37.46\00:46:39.26
you know, your spiritual growth,
00:46:39.29\00:46:41.46
you're able to
put into this book
00:46:41.50\00:46:43.43
which I think is just...
00:46:43.47\00:46:45.40
I want to say just
like a slap to Satan
00:46:45.43\00:46:49.07
because Satan is here to
steal, kill, and to destroy,
00:46:49.10\00:46:51.81
but God has come to give us life
00:46:51.84\00:46:53.17
and life more abundantly.
00:46:53.21\00:46:54.74
So when you put these tools
00:46:54.78\00:46:56.21
out there for
others to be blessed by
00:46:56.24\00:46:57.91
I just praise the
Lord that God has used you
00:46:57.95\00:47:01.62
and is using you
in such a powerful way
00:47:01.65\00:47:03.82
out of such a
tremendous, tremendous loss.
00:47:03.85\00:47:06.05
See, the most important thing
is not what happens to you.
00:47:06.09\00:47:08.82
I mean, the most important thing
00:47:08.86\00:47:13.46
I think is not
what happens to you,
00:47:13.50\00:47:15.66
but everybody is
faced with challenges
00:47:15.70\00:47:18.73
far more difficult than
what I have had to face,
00:47:18.77\00:47:22.94
but the crucial question is
00:47:22.97\00:47:24.57
how do you relate to
what is happening to you.
00:47:24.61\00:47:26.91
Yes.
00:47:26.94\00:47:28.28
What is your reaction to
what is happening to you,
00:47:28.31\00:47:30.61
you know, and you
wait for an answer.
00:47:30.65\00:47:33.68
And sometimes you have to wait
for a longer period of time,
00:47:33.72\00:47:36.58
but then, you
know, it dawned on me
00:47:36.62\00:47:40.46
that in waiting
00:47:40.49\00:47:45.03
God helps you to
grow into a person
00:47:45.06\00:47:50.50
that He likes you to be
00:47:50.53\00:47:52.90
that you would never be
if you didn't have to wait.
00:47:52.93\00:47:57.14
See, sometimes we
wait for an answer
00:47:57.17\00:48:00.74
and we want to have
an answer immediately,
00:48:00.78\00:48:03.41
but we don't see and
realize the blessing of waiting
00:48:03.45\00:48:06.31
because in
waiting, you can develop...
00:48:06.35\00:48:09.52
If you're open to that,
00:48:09.55\00:48:11.15
you can develop into a
person that God wants you to be
00:48:11.19\00:48:16.02
that you would never be
00:48:16.06\00:48:17.99
if you didn't have
to have that experience.
00:48:18.03\00:48:20.36
And that also taught
me an important lesson
00:48:20.40\00:48:22.53
with the loss of
my life, you know.
00:48:22.56\00:48:24.87
This is something that
I've never dreamed of happening.
00:48:24.90\00:48:28.74
This is nothing that I desired,
that is nothing that we wished,
00:48:28.77\00:48:33.58
but it occurred to
us, it occurred to me,
00:48:33.61\00:48:36.38
and it became part of my life.
00:48:36.41\00:48:39.91
And when I realized that
I had to struggle with that
00:48:39.95\00:48:44.12
because this was not a
pleasant thought, you know,
00:48:44.15\00:48:47.06
I didn't envisioned my
future as a single parent
00:48:47.09\00:48:49.69
or without my wife.
00:48:49.72\00:48:52.86
I didn't want to live that way,
00:48:52.89\00:48:55.56
but yet, it had
become part of my life.
00:48:55.60\00:48:57.57
And once I was willing
to accept that reality...
00:48:57.60\00:49:01.30
Surrender.
00:49:01.34\00:49:02.84
It was very painful, it brought
tears to my eyes, you know,
00:49:02.87\00:49:05.77
but at the same time
it was a great relief
00:49:05.81\00:49:09.71
that I felt that
00:49:09.74\00:49:11.15
like a stone falling
off my shoulders, you know.
00:49:11.18\00:49:13.92
And I could accept that
as a reality in my life,
00:49:13.95\00:49:17.35
and I could thank God
for that because I realized.
00:49:17.39\00:49:22.22
Yes, this has become
part of my life story,
00:49:22.26\00:49:25.36
this is not your
life story and not yours,
00:49:25.39\00:49:27.76
it's part of my life.
00:49:27.80\00:49:30.03
And the important thing
is not what happened to me,
00:49:30.07\00:49:33.40
the important thing is
00:49:33.44\00:49:34.77
how I relate to
what happened to me,
00:49:34.80\00:49:37.01
and how I allow God to
work in and through that.
00:49:37.04\00:49:40.51
Yeah, amen.
00:49:40.54\00:49:42.21
I wish we had a
whole another hour to it,
00:49:42.24\00:49:44.31
this is incredible.
00:49:44.35\00:49:45.91
I want to read through
the rest of the chapters.
00:49:45.95\00:49:48.25
We have becoming
free of bitterness,
00:49:48.28\00:49:50.49
10 suggestions
for encouragement,
00:49:50.52\00:49:53.09
suggestions for
praying together,
00:49:53.12\00:49:55.06
prayers for missionaries,
00:49:55.09\00:49:56.93
and suggestions
for intercession.
00:49:56.96\00:49:59.36
The book we've
been talking about
00:49:59.39\00:50:01.23
is Longing For God
by Dr. Frank Hasel,
00:50:01.26\00:50:04.07
A Prayer And Bible Journal.
00:50:04.10\00:50:06.13
This is an incredible book,
00:50:06.17\00:50:07.80
and we would tell
you in just a moment
00:50:07.84\00:50:09.20
how you can get a copy.
00:50:09.24\00:50:10.74
But tell us how
your sons are doing now?
00:50:10.77\00:50:13.11
I know it's been several
years since your wife passed
00:50:13.14\00:50:15.18
so tell us just briefly?
00:50:15.21\00:50:17.05
My sons are doing
well from all I can tell.
00:50:17.08\00:50:20.28
My oldest son is married now,
00:50:20.32\00:50:21.82
he lives in Sothern
California, he is an architect.
00:50:21.85\00:50:25.32
The second son is a law student
00:50:25.35\00:50:26.99
at the University
of Graz in Austria.
00:50:27.02\00:50:30.36
He is interested
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00:50:30.39\00:50:32.89
and human rights issues,
00:50:32.93\00:50:34.63
and the youngest son
just finished high school
00:50:34.66\00:50:36.90
and is a freshman at Southern
Adventist University now.
00:50:36.93\00:50:40.57
So we're spread
all over the place.
00:50:40.60\00:50:42.20
I think about that
scripture, you know,
00:50:42.24\00:50:45.24
Joseph with his brothers
and what they did to him.
00:50:45.27\00:50:48.08
And he said, "Well,
Satan intended for evil,
00:50:48.11\00:50:50.91
God turned around for good."
00:50:50.95\00:50:52.95
And I think what
Satan intended for evil
00:50:52.98\00:50:55.55
and the loss of your wife.
00:50:55.58\00:50:56.92
God in the midst of
that pain brought beauty
00:50:56.95\00:51:00.19
out of those ashes.
00:51:00.22\00:51:01.56
And through your own journey
00:51:01.59\00:51:03.96
lead you to write
this incredible book.
00:51:03.99\00:51:05.99
So we hope and pray at
home that your heart in life
00:51:06.03\00:51:10.00
has been
encouraged by some thing
00:51:10.03\00:51:11.83
that Dr. Hasel has shared today.
00:51:11.87\00:51:13.77
I know, I'm
encouraged in the Lord
00:51:13.80\00:51:15.74
from what you have
shared, so thank you for that.
00:51:15.77\00:51:19.17
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00:51:28.65\00:51:31.12
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