I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my word
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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We are so thankful
that you've joined us here,
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as you do each and every day.
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Thank you for your
support of the ministry of 3ABN,
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it's neat because not only
are we a family here at 3ABN,
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you are part of our family.
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And Jesus Christ of
course is our Supreme Provider
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but it's because of your prayers
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and your financial
support to this ministry
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that we can go around the world
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reaching others
for Jesus Christ.
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How's your day going?
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I know, here at
3ABN, it's going well.
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Why?
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Because Jesus is Lord
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and we can't go wrong with that,
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so long as we serve Him
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and obey His
instructions to each one of us.
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Today, we have some family,
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there are no
strangers to us here at 3ABN.
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It's been a little while
though since they've been here
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and there's a
really special connection
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that Jill has with them,
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so I'm going to
let you introduce
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who we have here as
our family and guests.
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Thank you.
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It is a privilege to introduce
our special guests today.
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I think back...
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when I was I would say a
young person, 25 years ago,
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I was a teenager, and we were...
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I lived in
Massachusetts and my family
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had gone up to
Maine to a camp meeting.
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And at that time, I met
this precious couple there.
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At that time,
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I remember growing up as a child
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thinking that life was
about do this and don't do that,
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and that's all
Christianity was about,
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and for the very first time,
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I heard a couple who
presented the gospel message,
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practical Christianity
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that Jesus can come in and heal
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and restore and mend
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broken hearts, broken
families, broken marriages,
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and bring them
back to wholeness.
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So it's my
privilege to introduce
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Tom and Alane
Waters to you at home.
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And they're part of
Restoration International.
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Tom, you are the
president, co-founder,
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and speaker of
Restoration International.
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And I know, Alane,
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you are co-founder and speaker
of Restoration International.
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And it's a privilege
to have both of you here.
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Thank you.
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Well, thank you for
that warm introduction.
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It's great to be back at 3ABN.
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And we're looking
for good time together
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and a blessing to us
as well as the viewers.
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You know, I think it's
neat too because really, I mean,
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I know we're on a television set
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but this is supposed to
look like a living room.
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And so you may be sitting
in your living room or home
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hopefully you just feel like
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you're just joining
in on a conversation
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about what God is doing
with Restoration International.
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Now we mentioned
earlier that you're no strangers
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because you came to 3ABN
and did a wonderful series.
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Tell us a little bit about
that, a number of years ago,
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and it had to do with family.
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Yes, it was a joy
to be able to be here
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and do a special
marriage series together,
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Marriage Heart to Heart
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under your title of
Marriage in God's Hands.
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That's right.
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That again was a very
practical experience for us.
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And it really where
marriage happens day to day,
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real life, the good, the
bad, the ugly, and the beautiful
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where Christ takes our marriages
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and turns them into
something beautiful.
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We know whenever it's re-airing
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because we start getting calls
and emails into the office.
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And recently, we just
did a marriage seminar
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at church in Florida.
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And we got that invitation
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based on somebody in that church
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having viewed some of
those programmings and said,
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"Wow, we want to bring
that to our church family."
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So it is still going far
and wide even many years later.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, and I
remember that series,
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I don't remember if I actually
ran camera for that one or not,
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but I do remember that
the way you presented it
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was very
practical and very real.
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Oh, it's very real.
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You know, and I
think that's the key
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because when people are real,
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I mean, you can tell
when somebody is real or fake.
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You know, I mean, so
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when someone is
talking about real experiences
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that you have been
through, that means a lot
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because you're talking
about your testimony, you know.
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And so I think
that touches hearts,
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I believe, in a
really special way.
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So let's talk about Restoration
International for a moment.
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What was the impetus
for beginning the ministry,
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did you all have a
really solid power for marriage,
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and you said, "I want to reach
out to and help other people,"
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or tell us a little
bit about your back story.
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Great question. Yeah.
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Well, we
appreciate that question
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because we had a solid marriage
from one perspective for sure,
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and that was that we
believe marriage was for life.
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We both were raised in homes
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where our parents were
very committed to marriage
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which unfortunately
that kind of commitment
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is more rare nowadays.
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But we had some
real difficulties
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in the early part
of our marriage that...
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Well, kind of a shock
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'cause we were going to
live happily ever after, right?
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Yes. For sure.
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We came to recognize
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and it's something that we
talk about all the time now,
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especially when we
do Marriage Messages
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and that is the
idea of the ME focus,
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we come into
marriage, unfortunately,
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because we don't get a lot
of preparation for marriage,
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we don't get a lot of
education on marriage,
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and so we come in with two MEs.
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And those two MEs
really believe in ourselves,
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we believe that
the way we live life
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is the way it should be and now
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we're supposed to
become one, right?
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Yes. That's right.
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Just because the pastor says,
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"Now the two should become one,"
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and the Bible says it.
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And the Bible does too.
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But which one shall we
be or which ME shall we be?
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Because when conflict happens,
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when difficulties
come up, this ME...
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And this ME.
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And this ME have
a different focus,
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especially when
there's a difficult area
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and it comes close to us.
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And that's where the ME
focus started showing up
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for us in marriage
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and where we started really
feeling the need for a Savior.
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That's right, you
know, the true personalities
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or the true
characters revealed, right,
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in difficult times or
we were told in a crisis,
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so that's, you
know, in a marriage
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certainly hit those points.
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But God began
working in our hearts
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when we discovered
we needed something more
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than what we could just
put into having a happy home.
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You can't just check the boxes.
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And we started on a pursuit
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to get to know Christ better
individually for ourselves
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and to make Him very real.
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We were by this time
having our first little one
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and then our second
little one shortly thereafter.
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And, you know, not just our
deficiencies in the marriage
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but our deficiencies as parents
began to be quite evident.
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And so we began this search,
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this quest for
seeking God in a personal way.
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And through that process,
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which was quite a bit over time,
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God led us to leave
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our medical
careers, our professions,
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and move our family
to a more rural area
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and really invest time in them
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instead of just
adding them into our lives
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making our family and
God the focus of our life.
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Wow. And that was a real change.
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People thought we
were crazy. I'm sure.
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I mean, obviously,
that's not the theme of this.
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It's radical. Real radical.
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It was very radical,
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but I can tell you
after 37 years of marriage
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and our baby is 31
years old now, our youngest...
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Not so small anymore. No.
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That decision was
not only revolutionary
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but it was completely
God's will for our lives.
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We had no idea
that it would take us
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in the direction that it did
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when we left
our medical careers,
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but we are so thankful
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because it was there
that we started really dealing
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with the
practical of Christianity,
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I mean, really
what the differences.
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And, you know,
when we made mistakes
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in our home, in our
marriage, to our children,
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one of the things that we
did is we said, "I'm sorry."
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And we said if I
got upset at my wife
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in front of our children,
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it wasn't just
I'm sorry to my wife,
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I have my children
when they were part of that.
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I also came to them and said,
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"The way that Daddy
handled the situation
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with your mother
was not appropriate.
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I'm sorry. Please forgive me."
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And I'll tell you what,
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you know, looking
back our children,
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I just got a thing from
our children for Father's Day.
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Okay, well, as I
said our littlest,
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he's 31 years old.
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And it was beautiful.
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It was a Thomas Kinkade book
that has beautiful paintings
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dedicated to fathers
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and in between it had pages
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to write the
memories of their childhood.
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I'll tell you what
a gift and a treasure
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because those hours, those years
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that we spent in really focusing
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on the practical life
of marriage and family
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have paid off dividends
that we praise God for.
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So from that moving
to a more rural location
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came Restoration International,
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then God gave you the
idea to start this ministry.
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Well, it came from
people. People. Okay.
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I mean, people who knew
us from our past that said...
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"What's going on?"
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"Can you come back
and share with us,"
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because, you know,
obviously they want to come out
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and visit because we're living,
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you know, in a beautiful place
in Montana at that time but,
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"Can you come and
share with us in our church
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because you're very
different than when you left,
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I mean, your children
are actually obedient,
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and they're happy, and
they're contented, and..."
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So it kind of started
from people asking us to share
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and then we recognized
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that we got more
and more invitations
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so at that point...
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Yeah, and one of the
things that I want to bring out,
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and it's just a small thing,
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but I think it's a
very important point.
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And that is when we
left our suburban lifestyle,
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we were looked up to
in our church community,
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we were a "model family".
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Lord help us, we
weren't a model family.
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But my point is this
we were not hypocrites.
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But we did not understand
the real death of self.
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We did not understand
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what it really means
to be real Christians.
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We did what we had to
do to be a good family,
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to be upstanding
in our community,
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but the heart level of
Christianity was not there.
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So we want to say
to people out there,
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you can look good,
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you can have
all your t's crossed
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and your i's dotted,
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but how is it in the
heart, how is the reality.
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It's more about our
connection with Christ
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and our love for Him
and our passion for Him
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because He's the one
who makes the difference,
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it's not the do's and the don't,
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it's the relationship.
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And that's what we focused
on most, the relationship.
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And the best source books
'cause often people email us,
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you know, "What
can you recommend
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that we can read
about such and such."
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We keep sending
people back to the scriptures
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and back to the inspired
commentaries on the scriptures
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because they are so
full of powerful principles
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and inspiration and encouraging
stories of real people
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who've done it wrong,
who've God is redeemed,
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and in the process,
we can learn from that.
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What an incredible testimony
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to see what God
did in your life,
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how he took you from here
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and then how he
changed your life,
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changed your family.
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And then God took
that as a testimony
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to the world that you can
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then share that
with other people.
00:12:03.18\00:12:04.65
We're going to put a
pause on that just for a moment.
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We haven't gone
to our music yet.
00:12:06.89\00:12:08.96
We have ET Everett standing by.
00:12:08.99\00:12:11.56
And the song
she's going to minister
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is "No one ever
cared for me like Jesus."
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And the reason I love this song
in connection with this program
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is that you might be right
now sitting at home and saying,
00:12:20.70\00:12:24.31
"My life is a mess.
00:12:24.34\00:12:25.67
My marriage is a mess.
00:12:25.71\00:12:27.74
My
relationships are in turmoil."
00:12:27.78\00:12:30.01
But the Lord Jesus knows,
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He cares for
you, He understands.
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And on the other
end of this song,
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they would be
sharing practical tips
00:12:36.79\00:12:38.59
what God has
done in the ministry
00:12:38.62\00:12:40.69
and how you can get
involved in the ministry
00:12:40.72\00:12:43.22
and your life and
marriage can be changed as well.
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Thank you, ET Everett.
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Well, God has given you a gift.
00:17:03.92\00:17:05.59
And thank you for ministering
to us the beautiful song,
00:17:05.62\00:17:09.22
"No one else cared
for me like Jesus."
00:17:09.26\00:17:12.99
Praise Lord for that.
00:17:13.03\00:17:14.36
Jesus is good,
cares for us all the time.
00:17:14.40\00:17:16.23
In case, you
are just joining us,
00:17:16.26\00:17:18.63
I don't want to
say shame on you,
00:17:18.67\00:17:20.00
that doesn't sound very good,
00:17:20.04\00:17:21.70
but we have some exciting guests
00:17:21.74\00:17:23.77
that are passionate
about their ministry.
00:17:23.81\00:17:26.17
And like we mentioned earlier,
they have been on 3ABN before.
00:17:26.21\00:17:29.04
We have Tom and
Alane Waters with us.
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And they're talking
about their ministry
00:17:31.68\00:17:33.62
Restoration International
00:17:33.65\00:17:34.98
which is
dealing with the family,
00:17:35.02\00:17:36.45
so marriage, children,
00:17:36.48\00:17:39.62
and really what God
has done in their life
00:17:39.65\00:17:41.32
is what we're talking about
00:17:41.36\00:17:42.69
for the first few
minutes of this program.
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And I know we want to continue
on a little bit with that,
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but we've already been blessed,
00:17:46.63\00:17:47.96
haven't we with
what they shared?
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Amen. Amen.
00:17:49.36\00:17:50.70
And it's incredible how
God takes us on a journey.
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You know, and the
journey does not end,
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it's not like we're sitting here
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saying we have arrived
00:17:55.74\00:17:57.27
or we're in some sort
of state of perfection,
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but we are in process.
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And you see the things
God is doing in your life.
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And continues to
do. Amen. Absolutely.
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You know, as we
think about the family,
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the family is under attack,
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and so the devil is
attacking the family.
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There's a reason
why he is attacking.
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Why do you think
the Satan is out there
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to destroy the family?
00:18:17.49\00:18:18.83
Oh, there's a
very obvious reason,
00:18:18.86\00:18:21.23
not just because we're involved
in this kind of ministry,
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but it's obvious
that if he can destroy
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the individual in a marriage,
00:18:29.94\00:18:32.44
he can work on
destroying that marriage.
00:18:32.47\00:18:34.78
So he works to break
down the individual first,
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then he's always
working on all of us, okay,
00:18:37.38\00:18:40.85
to try to
breakdown our marriages.
00:18:40.88\00:18:42.45
If he can break
down our marriages,
00:18:42.48\00:18:44.02
he knows that
he will have access
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to the family, to the children.
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And when he gets
access to families,
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he gets access to the church.
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That's right. It's good.
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When he gets
access to the church,
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he gets access to the
light of the community,
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and the light of the
world begins to go dim.
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And so it's just
working at the foundations,
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you know, that's gospel order.
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It's the individual
relationship with God.
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And if that's
personal and practical,
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it affects this relationship.
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Sure it does. Oh, yeah.
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And that's the
foundation, it's gospel order.
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And if he can
interrupt the gospel order,
00:19:18.95\00:19:20.66
he breaks things
down pretty quick.
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Well, there's two
sacred institutions
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that God put at
the end of creation,
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the marriage and the Sabbath.
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And both of those
institutions are under attack,
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the counterfeit anything
to undermine those things.
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And as, you know,
Bible believing Christians,
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it is our privilege and our joy
to uphold those in the beauty
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that God intended them to have
00:19:44.91\00:19:46.98
and that it brings us into a
closer relationship with Him,
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which brings us
into closer relationships
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in all of our other
encounters with people.
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Yeah, that's a
good point for sure.
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Give us an overview of
Restoration International.
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I know we talk some
about your own journey
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and how God led
you into the ministry,
00:20:02.46\00:20:04.13
but what does a Restoration
International involve?
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Okay, well, what
we call our flagship
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is our family retreats.
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We've been doing the
longest running was in Virginia.
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It's been going on for well...
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More than 20
years. More than 20 years.
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Wow. Okay.
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Every year, you do
one there? Every year.
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So we do these retreats
where we just encourage people,
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everybody is a part of a family.
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So this doesn't mean you've
got to have a bunch of children
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to come to this, okay,
00:20:31.43\00:20:32.76
'cause we're all part
of a family so we get...
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Or they even have to be married.
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We have singles
also. Single people go?
00:20:36.80\00:20:38.47
We had a single guy that ran
00:20:38.50\00:20:40.70
our North East
Family Retreat for years.
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And it grew phenomenally
under his leadership
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'cause he had a
passion for family.
00:20:46.44\00:20:48.08
We finally told him, "Listen,
you need to be get married."
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And now he's happily married,
00:20:53.08\00:20:54.42
he's not leading out
in that retreat anymore
00:20:54.45\00:20:56.45
because we told him
00:20:56.48\00:20:57.82
you need to
retire and find a wife.
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You know, now that's
just kind of in fun, okay?
00:20:59.22\00:21:00.66
But he has...
00:21:00.69\00:21:02.02
Lord put him
together with somebody.
00:21:02.06\00:21:03.39
But they're for everybody,
and it's coming of part,
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Wednesday night
through Saturday night.
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Okay. Okay.
00:21:09.50\00:21:10.83
Coming together,
00:21:10.87\00:21:12.20
you can't tell people to
leave their cell phones behind,
00:21:12.23\00:21:14.64
but some of the retreats
where we go in the locations
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is not the best
cellular reception.
00:21:17.81\00:21:20.44
So they could just kind of
have to disconnect a little bit.
00:21:20.48\00:21:23.31
And sometimes that's
exactly what families need,
00:21:23.35\00:21:26.75
just to pull back
from the business of life.
00:21:26.78\00:21:29.62
We have messages
that are designed
00:21:29.65\00:21:32.15
for the individual walk with God
00:21:32.19\00:21:33.72
in a very practical
way, the marriage building,
00:21:33.76\00:21:37.53
the family building,
and that's what it's about.
00:21:37.56\00:21:39.79
So I know that
there's already viewers
00:21:39.83\00:21:41.53
that have been touched by
what you've shared already
00:21:41.56\00:21:43.37
and are saying, "Wow, I
probably need to attend."
00:21:43.40\00:21:45.73
Walk us through
maybe sort of past through
00:21:45.77\00:21:48.97
what a Wednesday
through Sabbath would be.
00:21:49.00\00:21:50.57
Is it seminars all day
long? What actually takes place?
00:21:50.61\00:21:53.98
And is there a place to stay
00:21:54.01\00:21:55.34
or to someone
need to find hotels,
00:21:55.38\00:21:56.81
that sort of things?
00:21:56.85\00:21:58.18
I know this
information is on your website
00:21:58.21\00:21:59.55
which we will get to
hear in just a few minutes.
00:21:59.58\00:22:01.65
But just kind of walk
us through this one here.
00:22:01.68\00:22:03.02
Well, they're all
located in a camp setting,
00:22:03.05\00:22:05.62
so there's
accommodations to all of them.
00:22:05.65\00:22:08.02
And we just say the
earlier people register,
00:22:08.06\00:22:10.23
they have the
better commendations
00:22:10.26\00:22:11.59
they may have as an option.
00:22:11.63\00:22:13.50
But there's
several meetings a day
00:22:13.53\00:22:16.67
and they're all
geared for the family,
00:22:16.70\00:22:18.93
the individual, as he said,
and then any family issues.
00:22:18.97\00:22:21.70
So we all come in
here the same thing.
00:22:21.74\00:22:23.64
So the kids aren't separate.
There kids aren't separate.
00:22:23.67\00:22:25.77
And a lot of people
had concerns about that.
00:22:25.81\00:22:28.14
But when we encourage
them to come and just try it,
00:22:28.18\00:22:30.38
we find out that the children
00:22:30.41\00:22:31.85
actually are
very good listeners.
00:22:31.88\00:22:33.92
In one meeting, I remember
this little girl comes and says,
00:22:33.95\00:22:36.85
"Mommy, I learned today
that I need to be obedient."
00:22:36.89\00:22:38.85
She's about four years old.
It was a new thought to her.
00:22:38.89\00:22:41.62
She picked up from
a Parenting Message
00:22:41.66\00:22:43.83
where you think we're
talking to the parents
00:22:43.86\00:22:45.36
but the children are listening.
00:22:45.39\00:22:46.73
So we actually have
three meetings a day
00:22:46.76\00:22:48.86
which isn't overdone.
00:22:48.90\00:22:50.80
And then we have one breakout
every day for the adults
00:22:50.83\00:22:54.34
to talk about the
more personal intimate
00:22:54.37\00:22:56.64
areas of needs in the marriage.
00:22:56.67\00:22:58.71
And during that time,
00:22:58.74\00:23:00.08
the young people are
involved in choir practice
00:23:00.11\00:23:01.98
'cause they do all
of our special music
00:23:02.01\00:23:03.48
for the Sabbath.
00:23:03.51\00:23:04.88
So there's direction for them.
00:23:04.91\00:23:06.65
And then we have
Family Recreation every day
00:23:06.68\00:23:09.48
on the Thursday and the Friday
00:23:09.52\00:23:11.09
that families come
up and play together.
00:23:11.12\00:23:12.65
And it's all organized.
00:23:12.69\00:23:14.06
And the grandmas and
grandpas can be out there,
00:23:14.09\00:23:16.16
the little ones,
it's a safe environment,
00:23:16.19\00:23:17.99
that's been a lot of fun.
00:23:18.03\00:23:19.36
So we're trying to give
enough time for the families
00:23:19.39\00:23:21.40
can connect with
themselves and other families
00:23:21.43\00:23:24.90
not just to go
from meeting to meeting,
00:23:24.93\00:23:26.27
meeting to
meeting, meeting to meeting.
00:23:26.30\00:23:27.64
Yes. Well, that's great.
00:23:27.67\00:23:29.00
One of the...
00:23:29.04\00:23:30.37
Just to give you
one of the meetings
00:23:30.41\00:23:32.17
is geared towards
parenting in the day,
00:23:32.21\00:23:34.84
one of them is geared
specifically for marriage,
00:23:34.88\00:23:36.98
one of them is geared
specially for young people,
00:23:37.01\00:23:39.55
youth and young adults.
00:23:39.58\00:23:41.28
So that's a little
of a variety of the day.
00:23:41.32\00:23:44.49
And we aren't in this alone.
00:23:44.52\00:23:45.85
We have our associates,
it's Paul and Carolyn Rayne,
00:23:45.89\00:23:48.22
the Rayne family,
00:23:48.26\00:23:49.59
the young people
Hannah and Caleb.
00:23:49.62\00:23:51.26
So they have
been... We have a picture...
00:23:51.29\00:23:52.86
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
00:23:52.89\00:23:54.26
We have a
picture I think of this.
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.03
They have been to 3ABN
00:23:56.06\00:23:57.40
and they've done series as well.
00:23:57.43\00:23:58.90
That's right. Absolutely.
00:23:58.93\00:24:00.37
So we work together as a team.
00:24:00.40\00:24:02.94
And it's been
00:24:02.97\00:24:05.41
a tremendous
blessing to be together.
00:24:05.44\00:24:07.78
Amen. So do you have breakfast?
00:24:07.81\00:24:09.34
I'm thinking of
food, I like to eat.
00:24:09.38\00:24:11.51
So is there a
breakfast or anything?
00:24:11.55\00:24:12.88
I like to eat too. All right.
00:24:12.91\00:24:14.25
That's makes me feel so bad.
00:24:14.28\00:24:16.05
Yes, there are meals provided.
00:24:16.08\00:24:17.69
People can purchase the meals
00:24:17.72\00:24:19.69
or they can bring
their own in some situations.
00:24:19.72\00:24:22.82
So it's optional.
So it's optional, yes.
00:24:22.86\00:24:24.63
And each retreat is set
up a little bit different,
00:24:24.66\00:24:27.76
generally that's the
way all the retreats run.
00:24:27.80\00:24:30.77
Now you're breaking out
00:24:30.80\00:24:32.13
'cause you've been doing
these family retreats for years,
00:24:32.17\00:24:34.54
but now you're starting
to do some Marriage Retreats
00:24:34.57\00:24:36.91
and Men's
Retreats, are those new?
00:24:36.94\00:24:38.74
This year, will
be the first time,
00:24:38.77\00:24:40.64
we're now
sponsoring a Marriage Treat.
00:24:40.68\00:24:43.11
We're really excited about it.
00:24:43.14\00:24:45.01
Alane and I will be doing
the first Marriage Retreat.
00:24:45.05\00:24:48.38
And it's going to
be in a nice location.
00:24:48.42\00:24:51.42
And we hope we can get
00:24:51.45\00:24:53.19
some of your viewing audience
to get interested in it.
00:24:53.22\00:24:56.83
So this obviously,
00:24:56.86\00:24:58.19
since it's a marriage one
00:24:58.23\00:24:59.56
then you're not
looking for singles.
00:24:59.59\00:25:02.30
Yeah, no childcare.
This is very specifically...
00:25:02.33\00:25:04.17
No childcare.
Married couples only, yes.
00:25:04.20\00:25:06.03
Yup. Actually, we can
handle 20 couples, right.
00:25:06.07\00:25:10.14
Oh, that's not many.
00:25:10.17\00:25:11.51
No, we intentionally did that
00:25:11.54\00:25:13.34
so we have time to personally
connect with each couple
00:25:13.38\00:25:16.11
and maximize the
time to meet their needs.
00:25:16.14\00:25:19.58
So that's, you know,
00:25:19.61\00:25:21.22
we have the Marriage
Retreat that's coming,
00:25:21.25\00:25:22.92
we're also adding
in a Men's Retreat
00:25:22.95\00:25:24.95
that's another area of
great need that we've seen.
00:25:24.99\00:25:28.42
Women network, women connect,
00:25:28.46\00:25:30.23
women, they have no problem
staying in communication,
00:25:30.26\00:25:32.79
they meet somebody
at a family retreat
00:25:32.83\00:25:34.60
and they could be
friends and they communicate
00:25:34.63\00:25:36.30
even though
they're two states apart.
00:25:36.33\00:25:38.23
Men aren't like that so much.
00:25:38.27\00:25:40.64
And so to build the
spiritual connection amongst,
00:25:40.67\00:25:43.54
you know, the
men, that's something
00:25:43.57\00:25:45.14
that we're excited about.
00:25:45.17\00:25:46.64
So that's brand
new. That's brand new.
00:25:46.68\00:25:49.24
And we're also going to be doing
00:25:49.28\00:25:51.91
a Family Activity Retreat
at Glacier National Park.
00:25:51.95\00:25:56.08
Oh, well, in Montana?
00:25:56.12\00:25:57.45
Which is one of our
favorite national parks
00:25:57.49\00:25:59.25
'cause we used to spend
a lot of years in Montana
00:25:59.29\00:26:01.22
as you know,
that's where we're raised.
00:26:01.26\00:26:02.66
The grains are still there.
Yeah, the grains are there.
00:26:02.69\00:26:04.59
And that's where
we raised our family.
00:26:04.63\00:26:06.46
And so that's going
to be very different
00:26:06.49\00:26:09.33
from other retreats.
00:26:09.36\00:26:10.70
It's going to be
all-activity focused.
00:26:10.73\00:26:12.97
We'll do a morning message
of encouragement to families.
00:26:13.00\00:26:16.37
It's all designed
to bond families, okay,
00:26:16.40\00:26:19.87
'cause everything
in our world today
00:26:19.91\00:26:21.38
is working towards
disconnecting families.
00:26:21.41\00:26:24.35
We're not going to get
into all the devices and stuff.
00:26:24.38\00:26:26.31
But many people who are
dealing with devices know
00:26:26.35\00:26:29.08
what we're talking about.
00:26:29.12\00:26:30.45
It can all be under the same
roof sitting at the same table,
00:26:30.49\00:26:34.16
totally
disconnected from each other
00:26:34.19\00:26:37.69
connected to other
people in cyberspace.
00:26:37.73\00:26:40.30
This Family Activity Retreat
00:26:40.33\00:26:42.73
is truly designed to
bring people together,
00:26:42.76\00:26:45.87
bind their hearts as families
00:26:45.90\00:26:47.67
and do it through
fun activities like
00:26:47.70\00:26:49.67
canoeing,
kayaking, boating, biking,
00:26:49.70\00:26:52.44
hiking mountains,
00:26:52.47\00:26:53.81
all that stuff lends
itself in a beautiful setting
00:26:53.84\00:26:57.41
to keeping the
families connected.
00:26:57.45\00:26:58.78
Amen.
00:26:58.81\00:27:00.15
You know, Jill and I
have actually set aside
00:27:00.18\00:27:01.52
a particular time each week
00:27:01.55\00:27:03.49
to actually not be
connected on our devices
00:27:03.52\00:27:06.05
'cause, you know,
it's easy to bring,
00:27:06.09\00:27:07.42
you know, we work on some work
00:27:07.46\00:27:08.79
or different things like
that because it's amazing.
00:27:08.82\00:27:10.53
When we're going
down the interstate
00:27:10.56\00:27:11.89
even there will be
cars that are past us
00:27:11.93\00:27:13.26
and it seems like everybody...
00:27:13.29\00:27:15.06
not the driver hopefully,
00:27:15.10\00:27:16.56
but everybody in the car
00:27:16.60\00:27:17.93
is either they're watching
the little DVD in the backseat,
00:27:17.97\00:27:19.83
little kit or there's
people on their phones
00:27:19.87\00:27:21.87
doing this
number or I don't know
00:27:21.90\00:27:23.24
maybe they're playing games,
texting, messaging, whatever.
00:27:23.27\00:27:25.17
It is amazing how
we can be together
00:27:25.21\00:27:26.64
in such close quarters
but yet not connected at all.
00:27:26.68\00:27:29.98
And that's sad. Yes.
00:27:30.01\00:27:31.35
Really is.
00:27:31.38\00:27:32.71
So I just want to...
00:27:32.75\00:27:34.08
Why don't you
give us your website
00:27:34.12\00:27:35.45
because I know we're going to go
00:27:35.48\00:27:36.82
to this address
roll little bit later.
00:27:36.85\00:27:38.19
But I'm just feeling right now
00:27:38.22\00:27:39.55
that we should
actually put up that website
00:27:39.59\00:27:40.92
because you've
mentioned a number of things
00:27:40.96\00:27:42.29
that I'm sure there's
people already that are saying,
00:27:42.32\00:27:44.16
"Oh, just give me
contact information right now."
00:27:44.19\00:27:46.53
So give me your website
00:27:46.56\00:27:48.06
so that they can
start looking at that.
00:27:48.10\00:27:49.43
And we'll go to
00:27:49.46\00:27:50.80
some more information
in just a little bit.
00:27:50.83\00:27:52.17
What is the website?
00:27:52.20\00:27:53.54
So it's
Restoration-International
00:27:53.57\00:27:56.44
.o-r-g.
00:27:56.47\00:27:57.81
We have it on the screen.
00:27:57.84\00:27:59.17
So
Restoration-International.org.
00:27:59.21\00:28:03.51
Yeah, and there's lots
of detailed information
00:28:03.55\00:28:05.71
there about all of
these upcoming events.
00:28:05.75\00:28:08.55
Good, because,
you know, this program
00:28:08.58\00:28:09.92
we air different times,
you know, throughout the year.
00:28:09.95\00:28:11.42
And so, you know, depending on
00:28:11.45\00:28:12.79
when these different retreats
is that what you refer to...
00:28:12.82\00:28:14.36
Yeah, everything...
00:28:14.39\00:28:15.72
Is there so they
can look at the date
00:28:15.76\00:28:17.23
that's closest to what works
for them in their schedule.
00:28:17.26\00:28:20.43
So we can talk about
retreats and you say,
00:28:20.46\00:28:22.26
"Oh, that's sounds wonderful.
00:28:22.30\00:28:23.63
And that's great," but is
it impacting people's lives?
00:28:23.67\00:28:26.90
And is it changing
00:28:26.94\00:28:28.30
someone's life
mending marriages?
00:28:28.34\00:28:30.44
So do you have any
testimonies to share?
00:28:30.47\00:28:32.07
Oh, yeah, I mean,
00:28:32.11\00:28:34.41
now you're going to
really get us fired.
00:28:34.44\00:28:36.14
All right.
00:28:36.18\00:28:37.55
We're going to run
out of time on this one.
00:28:37.58\00:28:39.41
This is our
passion but yes, you know,
00:28:39.45\00:28:41.52
when we look at the theme song
00:28:41.55\00:28:43.45
to this at the
opening of this interview
00:28:43.49\00:28:46.15
"Mending broken
hearts, broken people,"
00:28:46.19\00:28:49.32
that's what
Restoration is all about.
00:28:49.36\00:28:51.73
First the relationship with God,
00:28:51.76\00:28:53.13
and the individual, then
the marriage, the family.
00:28:53.16\00:28:55.86
And yeah, I mean we have...
00:28:55.90\00:28:59.20
We could talk
for hours on the work
00:28:59.23\00:29:01.80
that God is doing in lives.
00:29:01.84\00:29:03.17
I mean, we've been
working with a couple recently,
00:29:03.20\00:29:06.07
a devastating,
00:29:06.11\00:29:07.88
just devastating affair
with this woman's best friend.
00:29:07.91\00:29:14.05
Oh. Oh.
00:29:14.08\00:29:15.42
And her husband is in an affair,
00:29:15.45\00:29:17.32
I mean, how is that...
00:29:17.35\00:29:18.69
Not just an
affair but an affair...
00:29:18.72\00:29:20.06
It's not a common situation.
00:29:20.09\00:29:21.66
And we're finding it's
happening more and more.
00:29:21.69\00:29:24.13
But it's not just another woman,
00:29:24.16\00:29:26.33
it's his wife's best friend.
00:29:26.36\00:29:28.60
How devastating.
00:29:28.63\00:29:30.20
That couple,
we've had the privilege
00:29:30.23\00:29:32.43
by the grace of God
to do some one-on-one
00:29:32.47\00:29:34.80
and in their testimony,
00:29:34.84\00:29:38.01
in less than three
months time, the lady said,
00:29:38.04\00:29:41.81
who's the basically
the broken hearted woman.
00:29:41.84\00:29:45.28
She said, "This is no
less a miracle of Jesus Christ
00:29:45.31\00:29:49.75
than when He walked on the earth
00:29:49.78\00:29:51.12
and healed a paralytic," okay?
00:29:51.15\00:29:54.49
And her husband
sitting beside her
00:29:54.52\00:29:56.42
and he is
broken with repentance.
00:29:56.46\00:29:58.76
So here we have a couple,
00:29:58.79\00:30:00.83
just sends chills down my spine.
00:30:00.86\00:30:02.20
You've got to a couple. Me too.
00:30:02.23\00:30:03.57
I've got it in
my arms right now.
00:30:03.60\00:30:04.93
Just who are both responding
00:30:04.97\00:30:06.30
to the power of the Holy Spirit,
00:30:06.33\00:30:08.04
he's just profusely repentant.
00:30:08.07\00:30:12.07
He's broken,
"How could I do this?"
00:30:12.11\00:30:15.11
He's letting it out
repentance which is a gift.
00:30:15.14\00:30:17.51
And people
don't understand this.
00:30:17.55\00:30:18.88
We can't work up repentance.
00:30:18.91\00:30:20.42
It's not a
checklist. That's right.
00:30:20.45\00:30:22.22
She, on the other hand,
00:30:22.25\00:30:23.59
is simultaneously receiving
the forgiveness from God.
00:30:23.62\00:30:27.96
That's also a gift. It is.
00:30:27.99\00:30:29.72
In many people,
this is just a side note
00:30:29.76\00:30:31.69
but we have found
in years of counseling,
00:30:31.73\00:30:33.70
many people have
never experienced
00:30:33.73\00:30:37.10
genuine forgiveness,
00:30:37.13\00:30:39.33
never
experienced the true article.
00:30:39.37\00:30:41.44
It is a gift of
God, it is not something
00:30:41.47\00:30:43.41
where we fold our arms and say,
00:30:43.44\00:30:45.44
"Okay, buck up, Buddy, forgive."
00:30:45.47\00:30:47.38
No, we can't do
it. It's impossible.
00:30:47.41\00:30:49.78
But that's a simple example
but a very profound example
00:30:49.81\00:30:52.61
that's happened
recently in our experience
00:30:52.65\00:30:54.75
where God has
transformed this couple.
00:30:54.78\00:30:58.25
And not only that,
00:30:58.29\00:31:00.06
some people think it takes years
00:31:00.09\00:31:01.96
to heal this kind of hurt.
00:31:01.99\00:31:04.43
We just spoke to them
recently, and the wife said,
00:31:04.46\00:31:09.26
"I am loving my husband
00:31:09.30\00:31:11.80
more than I have
ever loved him before."
00:31:11.83\00:31:14.50
Isn't that
beautiful? And he her.
00:31:14.54\00:31:18.81
He's not just contented to say,
"Let's fix this broken heart,
00:31:18.84\00:31:24.11
let's fix this broken marriage."
00:31:24.15\00:31:25.98
He's saying,
"Now that you've got
00:31:26.01\00:31:27.85
my repentance in your heart,
00:31:27.88\00:31:29.82
and my
forgiveness in your heart,
00:31:29.85\00:31:31.82
and you are blending your
lives like I really intended,
00:31:31.85\00:31:34.22
let's make your marriage like
00:31:34.26\00:31:35.59
you've never
experienced it before."
00:31:35.62\00:31:37.79
And this is happening
and this is all happening
00:31:37.83\00:31:39.73
within a three to
four-month period.
00:31:39.76\00:31:41.56
Wow. Praise be to the Lord.
00:31:41.60\00:31:42.93
That's a praise be to the Lord.
00:31:42.96\00:31:44.30
That's a miracle...
Yes, it is a miracle.
00:31:44.33\00:31:46.20
To see what can do and
how He can restore that.
00:31:46.23\00:31:48.97
Yes. So you see how we
can get fired up about this.
00:31:49.00\00:31:50.57
Oh, yes.
00:31:50.61\00:31:51.94
No, it's neat,
isn't it, to be a vessel
00:31:51.97\00:31:53.58
that God can
pour through you all
00:31:53.61\00:31:55.44
in your
experience to bless others.
00:31:55.48\00:31:57.48
Well, it is a blessing. It is.
00:31:57.51\00:31:59.85
And that's all it is.
00:31:59.88\00:32:01.22
We become a
conduit if we're willing.
00:32:01.25\00:32:02.58
Yeah, conduit.
00:32:02.62\00:32:03.95
If we don't just, you
know, block it off with self.
00:32:03.99\00:32:06.79
Do you have
something else to share
00:32:06.82\00:32:08.16
'cause that is encouraging?
00:32:08.19\00:32:09.52
Do you have another...
00:32:09.56\00:32:10.89
I don't say testimony,
00:32:10.93\00:32:12.26
of some other lives
that have been changed.
00:32:12.29\00:32:13.63
Well, there's...
00:32:13.66\00:32:15.00
As he said,
there's lots of them but...
00:32:15.03\00:32:16.36
Which one to pick form.
Yeah, which one to pick from.
00:32:16.40\00:32:17.90
But, you know, sometimes
we feel intimidated as parents
00:32:17.93\00:32:22.20
to really call our
children to our hearts
00:32:22.24\00:32:26.34
and call them to their
responsibilities as children.
00:32:26.37\00:32:29.61
First, we as parents have to,
you know, have that with God.
00:32:29.64\00:32:32.68
But then, and we
think of the parents
00:32:32.71\00:32:34.92
who are afraid of
their children today.
00:32:34.95\00:32:36.99
Many parents are
afraid of their children,
00:32:37.02\00:32:39.02
afraid how
they're going to react,
00:32:39.05\00:32:40.86
what they're going to say,
00:32:40.89\00:32:42.26
that they're not
going to like them anymore.
00:32:42.29\00:32:44.19
And we just encourage parents
and we've had numerous ones
00:32:44.23\00:32:47.03
where when we've joined
hands with God and we follow
00:32:47.06\00:32:50.40
what God's asking us do
to lovingly lead our children
00:32:50.43\00:32:53.60
and to have loving kind
boundaries and expectations,
00:32:53.64\00:32:58.44
we see that those
childrens hearts turned.
00:32:58.47\00:33:01.38
I think of one family
that came to visit us,
00:33:01.41\00:33:03.98
in our home, we
had met them before,
00:33:04.01\00:33:05.71
and they've also
been to Family Retreats,
00:33:05.75\00:33:07.78
but they needed some,
00:33:07.82\00:33:09.38
you know,
encouragement along the way.
00:33:09.42\00:33:11.02
And in that process,
00:33:11.05\00:33:13.39
it was evident that
the son's almost 18,
00:33:13.42\00:33:17.03
few weeks from
his 18th birthday.
00:33:17.06\00:33:18.49
His attitude, "When
I'm 18, I'm out here."
00:33:18.53\00:33:21.50
And we have seen that
whole situation change
00:33:21.53\00:33:24.67
as mom and dad's
heart changed towards him
00:33:24.70\00:33:27.40
and then he in turn, you
know, the scripture talks about
00:33:27.44\00:33:29.84
turning the hearts
of the father first
00:33:29.87\00:33:31.41
and the children second
00:33:31.44\00:33:32.77
and the children
back to the father.
00:33:32.81\00:33:34.28
And in that situation,
00:33:34.31\00:33:35.64
we've seen more
than this instance
00:33:35.68\00:33:37.58
where that has turned around,
00:33:37.61\00:33:39.45
and now the relationship
00:33:39.48\00:33:40.82
is not only healed in the family
00:33:40.85\00:33:42.38
but all of them have
that relationship with God
00:33:42.42\00:33:44.95
which is what
made the relationship
00:33:44.99\00:33:46.86
healing the family.
00:33:46.89\00:33:48.22
And they all have
a connection with God
00:33:48.26\00:33:50.76
and are in the work
of God because of that.
00:33:50.79\00:33:53.63
And he never
left home by the way.
00:33:53.66\00:33:55.00
He never left home. I
mean, he did eventually.
00:33:55.03\00:33:57.37
But he didn't leave
home on his 18th birthday.
00:33:57.40\00:33:58.73
As soon as his dad, exactly.
00:33:58.77\00:34:00.10
Right, he didn't
leave home out of anger...
00:34:00.14\00:34:01.94
That's right, or
frustration. Right.
00:34:01.97\00:34:03.57
"I just want to leave."
00:34:03.61\00:34:04.94
So you mentioned something
about the relationship healing,
00:34:04.97\00:34:08.81
you could say
side to side, parallel,
00:34:08.84\00:34:11.01
and then it was healed with God.
00:34:11.05\00:34:13.28
Or maybe the
healing with God gets first
00:34:13.31\00:34:14.98
and then
healing with each other.
00:34:15.02\00:34:16.35
Do you think someone
could in a family situation,
00:34:16.38\00:34:18.79
could you individually
have a relationship with God
00:34:18.82\00:34:21.56
and not have a
relationship with other people,
00:34:21.59\00:34:23.96
is that possible?
00:34:23.99\00:34:25.33
I mean, I feel like
I'm having my devotions
00:34:25.36\00:34:27.76
and I'm wanting to follow
God, and my husband is too,
00:34:27.80\00:34:30.63
but yet there's
still a disconnect,
00:34:30.67\00:34:32.63
do you see that happen?
00:34:32.67\00:34:34.04
Well, yeah, it's the
keyword there's the real.
00:34:34.07\00:34:37.87
Okay. Again, this is
we're it becomes very practical.
00:34:37.91\00:34:42.84
I can go through the motions.
00:34:42.88\00:34:45.85
And in fact, we
don't have a story
00:34:45.88\00:34:48.28
for everything in our own lives
00:34:48.32\00:34:49.68
but we have
stories for a lot of it.
00:34:49.72\00:34:52.09
We know what it was like to be
00:34:52.12\00:34:54.56
going through the
motions not as hypocrites,
00:34:54.59\00:34:57.56
there's a very
important distinction here,
00:34:57.59\00:35:00.00
but as people who
are blind to self really
00:35:00.03\00:35:04.23
is deluding us, okay?
00:35:04.27\00:35:07.04
But we both went
through an experience
00:35:07.07\00:35:08.47
that God opened up to
us at nearly the same time
00:35:08.50\00:35:11.07
where I was looking
at my wife and thinking,
00:35:11.11\00:35:15.84
"Man, she's sure
got it together with God
00:35:15.88\00:35:18.28
but what's my problem?"
00:35:18.31\00:35:20.08
And
simultaneously, she's saying,
00:35:20.12\00:35:22.32
"My husband, he's so constant.
00:35:22.35\00:35:24.35
He's always there on his knees."
00:35:24.39\00:35:26.25
And I'm thinking
00:35:26.29\00:35:27.62
"Man, I'm in real
serious trouble here."
00:35:27.66\00:35:31.99
You know, we
weren't running from God.
00:35:32.03\00:35:33.76
We were being honest, okay?
00:35:33.80\00:35:37.13
But we did not have
00:35:37.17\00:35:39.63
that connected
practical experience.
00:35:39.67\00:35:42.57
That can happen
and create a situation
00:35:42.60\00:35:45.64
where self is still operating,
00:35:45.67\00:35:47.01
but we don't recognize
it for what it is, okay?
00:35:47.04\00:35:49.91
But to really
answer your question, no,
00:35:49.94\00:35:53.65
we cannot be in a
relationship with God
00:35:53.68\00:35:57.32
that is vibrant,
alive, and faith-filled,
00:35:57.35\00:36:00.49
where we are not
having a positive influence
00:36:00.52\00:36:02.62
on other people, okay?
00:36:02.66\00:36:04.53
We know a couple where the
lady went for nearly two years
00:36:04.56\00:36:09.16
just living
Christ to her husband
00:36:09.20\00:36:12.00
who was hateful,
00:36:12.03\00:36:14.10
angry for a lot of
life, not her fault.
00:36:14.14\00:36:18.41
But watched over a
period of two years,
00:36:18.44\00:36:20.28
and that woman's love
00:36:20.31\00:36:22.98
and the power of
Christ broke through to him
00:36:23.01\00:36:26.28
and he is a converted man.
00:36:26.31\00:36:28.48
And he gives glory to
God through his wife, okay?
00:36:28.52\00:36:32.09
Amen. What a testimony.
00:36:32.12\00:36:33.46
Yeah, it's a
beautiful testimony.
00:36:33.49\00:36:35.09
So someone I know at home
00:36:35.12\00:36:36.52
is thinking
about these retreats.
00:36:36.56\00:36:37.89
I'm going back to the retreats.
00:36:37.93\00:36:39.43
And they're saying, "Wow.
00:36:39.46\00:36:40.80
I really want to attend
00:36:40.83\00:36:42.53
but I don't think my spouse
00:36:42.56\00:36:43.90
would have any
interest whatsoever."
00:36:43.93\00:36:46.23
So here they are
talking about family.
00:36:46.27\00:36:48.60
I am married, I mean, I'm
talking to someone at home,
00:36:48.64\00:36:50.94
you know, you're married.
00:36:50.97\00:36:52.31
But you're still saying,
"My spouse would never go.
00:36:52.34\00:36:54.11
Am I accepted? Can I go?
00:36:54.14\00:36:55.48
Is that even a
benefit to that one individual
00:36:55.51\00:36:57.45
that goes or you have
got to drag along this person
00:36:57.48\00:36:59.71
as kicking and
screaming and says,
00:36:59.75\00:37:01.08
'No, I don't want to go.
00:37:01.12\00:37:02.45
This won't help me. I
don't want to do that.'"
00:37:02.48\00:37:03.82
What would be your
advice to them at home?
00:37:03.85\00:37:05.19
Well, first of all,
00:37:05.22\00:37:06.55
we would encourage them to come.
00:37:06.59\00:37:07.99
But time and time again,
we see over and over that many
00:37:08.02\00:37:11.36
who'd never thought
their spouse would come,
00:37:11.39\00:37:13.66
come along maybe begrudgingly,
00:37:13.70\00:37:15.60
come along,
because the children asked,
00:37:15.63\00:37:18.50
but generally once they
come, they want to come back.
00:37:18.53\00:37:22.37
And it's almost always
00:37:22.40\00:37:23.74
if the greatest
motivation in some families
00:37:23.77\00:37:26.34
who have hesitancy,
00:37:26.37\00:37:27.71
the greatest motivation
is coming from the children.
00:37:27.74\00:37:30.45
Parents think, you know,
we asked about and you said
00:37:30.48\00:37:32.38
something about not
having children meetings
00:37:32.41\00:37:34.08
how's this going to work,
00:37:34.12\00:37:35.52
people think that children
won't enjoy this, they love it.
00:37:35.55\00:37:38.49
And the children are motivators
to get mom and dad back.
00:37:38.52\00:37:41.32
Many parents will tell us that.
00:37:41.36\00:37:42.69
"Well, we were just so busy.
00:37:42.72\00:37:44.06
We don't think we had
the finances this year,
00:37:44.09\00:37:45.99
but our children
begged for us to come back."
00:37:46.03\00:37:48.40
And they're very much a part
of everything that happened.
00:37:48.43\00:37:50.63
So whatever part
of the family can come
00:37:50.67\00:37:53.23
and then go home
and live the difference,
00:37:53.27\00:37:55.04
let your spouse, or
your children, or whatever,
00:37:55.07\00:37:57.74
you know, whoever
wasn't able to attend
00:37:57.77\00:37:59.77
let them see
00:37:59.81\00:38:02.08
what God has done
for you through this time
00:38:02.11\00:38:04.31
that keeps on growing
and they will be interested.
00:38:04.35\00:38:07.75
Amen. Absolutely.
00:38:07.78\00:38:10.09
What if someone struggling
in their marriage right now,
00:38:10.12\00:38:12.15
and they're just
watching the program
00:38:12.19\00:38:13.52
and they're saying, "My
marriage is falling apart.
00:38:13.56\00:38:15.82
My marriage maybe...
00:38:15.86\00:38:17.19
My husband just had an
affair or maybe it's the wife
00:38:17.23\00:38:18.99
who had the affair,"
00:38:19.03\00:38:20.36
like that story you
share that was so powerful.
00:38:20.40\00:38:22.53
What advice would you give them?
00:38:22.56\00:38:26.13
Well, it's a big question
then giving general advice is...
00:38:26.17\00:38:29.90
I didn't mean to
put you on the spot.
00:38:29.94\00:38:31.27
No. No. That's fine.
00:38:31.31\00:38:33.44
We're never put on the spot
00:38:33.48\00:38:34.81
when we're
sensitive to the Holy Spirit.
00:38:34.84\00:38:36.18
That's true.
00:38:36.21\00:38:37.55
But that kind of situation
is happening all the time.
00:38:37.58\00:38:40.78
If only one of
them is interested
00:38:40.82\00:38:44.92
in breaking past the situation,
00:38:44.95\00:38:48.36
if it's a lady
that's watching right now
00:38:48.39\00:38:50.49
that's experience what this lady
00:38:50.53\00:38:53.46
that we referred to,
00:38:53.50\00:38:54.83
her husband's
been unfaithful to her.
00:38:54.86\00:38:57.30
If only one of them is willing
00:38:57.33\00:39:00.90
to give God access
00:39:00.94\00:39:03.20
like He hasn't had in the past,
00:39:03.24\00:39:06.47
that one person can
begin to make a difference.
00:39:06.51\00:39:09.71
If that one person, again,
00:39:09.74\00:39:11.21
if this lady that
might be watching,
00:39:11.25\00:39:14.72
if that happens
00:39:14.75\00:39:16.22
and she allows God to
make a difference in her,
00:39:16.25\00:39:20.86
which means that she
actually prays for God
00:39:20.89\00:39:24.19
to give her forgiveness,
00:39:24.23\00:39:25.56
she can't
generate it herself, okay?
00:39:25.59\00:39:28.00
That God will do.
00:39:28.03\00:39:30.10
And that the husband will see
00:39:30.13\00:39:32.23
which will allow her
to pray for her husband
00:39:32.27\00:39:34.70
in a way that she would
never be able to pray for him
00:39:34.74\00:39:36.44
for his unfaithfulness, okay?
00:39:36.47\00:39:38.74
There has to be...
00:39:38.77\00:39:40.21
All we're saying here is
there has to be one person
00:39:40.24\00:39:42.84
who is willing to let
God make the difference.
00:39:42.88\00:39:46.51
If both people, like the
couple that we shared, okay,
00:39:46.55\00:39:49.95
I talked to the
husband, she talked to the wife,
00:39:49.98\00:39:53.29
the wife said initially,
00:39:53.32\00:39:56.02
"I'll never live
with this man again.
00:39:56.06\00:39:57.46
He's destroyed me.
He's destroyed my family."
00:39:57.49\00:40:00.33
Well, we've heard
those words before
00:40:00.36\00:40:02.20
but we don't give up on him.
00:40:02.23\00:40:03.57
And God doesn't give up on him.
00:40:03.60\00:40:04.93
And both of those individuals,
husband talked to me,
00:40:04.97\00:40:08.80
you know, felt like an idiot,
00:40:08.84\00:40:10.84
he felt so
sorry, which was good.
00:40:10.87\00:40:13.51
But God brought them together.
00:40:13.54\00:40:14.91
And when two people are
brought together simultaneously,
00:40:14.94\00:40:17.71
it multiplies
how quickly it heals.
00:40:17.75\00:40:21.68
So we've seen it
with both coming together,
00:40:21.72\00:40:23.65
we've seen if it
was just one willing
00:40:23.69\00:40:25.65
where somebody just says,
00:40:25.69\00:40:27.22
"Okay, well,
I'll talk to Alane."
00:40:27.26\00:40:29.56
And so she sets
up an appointment
00:40:29.59\00:40:31.16
or the guys says,
"I'll talk to Tom."
00:40:31.19\00:40:33.23
And it's a starting place.
00:40:33.26\00:40:34.66
And we've seen God
take that starting place
00:40:34.70\00:40:37.07
and move into miracles
00:40:37.10\00:40:38.43
where both of
them come together.
00:40:38.47\00:40:40.30
I know that you
have some resources
00:40:40.34\00:40:41.67
that we want to
touch on here briefly.
00:40:41.70\00:40:43.91
But someone at the home says,
00:40:43.94\00:40:45.27
"Okay, I will never be able
to go to one of the retreats."
00:40:45.31\00:40:49.38
You were talking about
and you touched on it briefly
00:40:49.41\00:40:51.28
about the
relationship with Jesus,
00:40:51.31\00:40:52.68
that's the most important thing.
00:40:52.71\00:40:54.05
Absolutely. How do I
start? How do I start?
00:40:54.08\00:40:56.85
You know, I know we
can get the resources,
00:40:56.89\00:40:58.72
but what would be your
advice to somebody at home
00:40:58.75\00:41:01.49
that would say, "I need this.
00:41:01.52\00:41:03.49
I know I need it.
Where do I begin?"
00:41:03.53\00:41:05.79
Yeah, well, for me,
00:41:05.83\00:41:07.16
it was starting with recognizing
00:41:07.20\00:41:09.63
that I was not
who I thought I was.
00:41:09.66\00:41:12.03
So becoming real with
yourself? I was becoming honest.
00:41:12.07\00:41:16.27
And honesty is sometimes brutal.
00:41:16.30\00:41:18.61
It's hard. Oh, yeah.
00:41:18.64\00:41:19.97
But it is so satisfying
00:41:20.01\00:41:21.98
in its results
and its fruit, okay?
00:41:22.01\00:41:24.51
I was raised in a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian home,
00:41:24.55\00:41:28.38
very loving parents,
00:41:28.42\00:41:30.82
but I did not understand
00:41:30.85\00:41:32.35
the power of the
gospel of Jesus Christ
00:41:32.39\00:41:34.56
until I was in my 20s.
00:41:34.59\00:41:36.66
When I came to recognize
00:41:36.69\00:41:38.23
what myself was doing
in my relationship with God
00:41:38.26\00:41:42.56
in my marriage and other people,
00:41:42.60\00:41:45.57
it was totally
eye-opening to me.
00:41:45.60\00:41:47.24
I didn't know what
the death of self was
00:41:47.27\00:41:49.34
when I was growing up.
00:41:49.37\00:41:50.71
It's like everybody has a self.
00:41:50.74\00:41:52.21
But I would never been
able to say that to you.
00:41:52.24\00:41:54.31
I can say it now.
00:41:54.34\00:41:55.68
Every one of you out
there has a self, okay?
00:41:55.71\00:41:57.05
Yeah. That's right. We sure do.
00:41:57.08\00:41:58.41
But when I came
to recognize that,
00:41:58.45\00:42:02.18
there was some arguing,
some justifying, some fighting
00:42:02.22\00:42:06.19
like the apostle
Paul fighting, wrestling.
00:42:06.22\00:42:09.26
But when I let it go.
00:42:09.29\00:42:11.49
And I said, "God,
I can't change me.
00:42:11.53\00:42:14.63
But I want You to change me."
00:42:14.66\00:42:16.73
When we are willing to
be willing to surrender
00:42:16.77\00:42:19.23
'cause sometimes I've been
on my knees in my closet...
00:42:19.27\00:42:21.57
I don't mind admitting this
00:42:21.60\00:42:22.94
to these people 'cause I'm real.
00:42:22.97\00:42:24.64
I've been on my
knees in my closet
00:42:24.67\00:42:26.81
literally in the
dark of my closet saying,
00:42:26.84\00:42:29.18
"I don't want to
do that Lord, not now.
00:42:29.21\00:42:32.01
But I love You enough
00:42:32.05\00:42:33.62
and I know what
You've done in my life.
00:42:33.65\00:42:35.32
I'm willing to be
made willing to change me.
00:42:35.35\00:42:38.05
You can do it. I
can't change myself.
00:42:38.09\00:42:39.95
Make me willing
'cause I'm willing,"
00:42:39.99\00:42:41.72
that kind of
surrender is a life changing.
00:42:41.76\00:42:45.56
I think one of the
keys that you mentioned too
00:42:45.59\00:42:47.00
is that God is the
one that does the changing
00:42:47.03\00:42:48.56
because many times,
00:42:48.60\00:42:49.93
you know, we can beat ourselves
or walk on our hands or,
00:42:49.96\00:42:52.57
you know, all this
stuff to try and again
00:42:52.60\00:42:56.00
that it's Jesus
Christ that does the changing
00:42:56.04\00:42:57.74
but we have to be willing.
00:42:57.77\00:42:59.37
Saying that we are
willing to surrender.
00:42:59.41\00:43:00.88
You have any word or thoughts?
00:43:00.91\00:43:02.24
I think it's important
that we see His love for us.
00:43:02.28\00:43:06.51
And to me, that's
what made the difference.
00:43:06.55\00:43:08.72
It's not just what
we understand to be,
00:43:08.75\00:43:11.75
you know, our church
rules or faith rules.
00:43:11.79\00:43:15.22
But what is God? Who
is He for me personally?
00:43:15.26\00:43:18.63
And look at His life and
look at the life of Christ,
00:43:18.66\00:43:21.00
His Son and
what He went through.
00:43:21.03\00:43:22.46
And the most powerful book
00:43:22.50\00:43:23.83
I've ever read is
the book Desire of Ages.
00:43:23.87\00:43:26.50
That helped me get a picture
00:43:26.53\00:43:28.80
of who Jesus is
and who His father is.
00:43:28.84\00:43:31.47
That turned my heart to love
in response to what He has done.
00:43:31.51\00:43:36.04
When you see that His
journey through the life
00:43:36.08\00:43:38.81
here in our lives,
00:43:38.85\00:43:40.32
you know, we've all
had the ups and the downs,
00:43:40.35\00:43:42.25
we've all hit those
points of rejection or whatever.
00:43:42.28\00:43:45.85
But when we see
that He went through it
00:43:45.89\00:43:48.12
and with the Spirit in
which He went through it,
00:43:48.16\00:43:49.86
turns our hearts
and gives us that,
00:43:49.89\00:43:51.53
you know, so focus on Him.
00:43:51.56\00:43:54.20
And then it's
the motivation for us
00:43:54.23\00:43:56.70
to give our heart
turns love begets love,
00:43:56.73\00:44:00.04
love response to love.
00:44:00.07\00:44:01.54
And then that
happens in the marriage.
00:44:01.57\00:44:03.37
The more he loves me,
the more I love him back.
00:44:03.41\00:44:04.97
The more I love him,
the more he loves me.
00:44:05.01\00:44:06.34
And we say, "Can
it get any better?"
00:44:06.37\00:44:07.71
And it always
does. So we love it.
00:44:07.74\00:44:10.35
It's a great cycle.
Yes, it's a great cycle.
00:44:10.38\00:44:12.91
That is a good
cycle. Praise the Lord.
00:44:12.95\00:44:14.75
Let's talk about some of
those resources that you have.
00:44:14.78\00:44:16.85
I know we have a
graphic of some of the books
00:44:16.89\00:44:19.09
that you have in Restoration
International in the ministry.
00:44:19.12\00:44:22.06
Okay, well, we almost got off on
00:44:22.09\00:44:25.39
from malfunction to miracles.
00:44:25.43\00:44:29.03
Well, speaking of resources,
00:44:29.06\00:44:30.43
you're going to
put up the graphics,
00:44:30.47\00:44:31.80
but if they go to our website
Restoration-International.org.
00:44:31.83\00:44:35.60
All of our materials
are free to listen to.
00:44:35.64\00:44:39.01
You can download
or listen online.
00:44:39.04\00:44:40.78
And even if you cannot go
to one of the Family Retreats,
00:44:40.81\00:44:43.81
past or previous
years' family retreats
00:44:43.85\00:44:45.85
are all there that you can...
00:44:45.88\00:44:47.92
Free of charge? Free of charge.
00:44:47.95\00:44:49.28
You can be in the retreat
and never having been on site.
00:44:49.32\00:44:51.42
They'd be right
there just sitting there
00:44:51.45\00:44:52.89
in your home watching...
00:44:52.92\00:44:54.26
What a resource.
00:44:54.29\00:44:55.62
Yeah, so those are
resources out there.
00:44:55.66\00:44:56.99
And then of course,
00:44:57.03\00:44:58.36
our associates the Rayne family,
00:44:58.39\00:44:59.73
they have done the program
here at 3ABN on the family,
00:44:59.76\00:45:01.76
connected family.
00:45:01.80\00:45:03.13
And they wrote a book
that's very interactive,
00:45:03.16\00:45:05.43
very powerful for parents.
00:45:05.47\00:45:06.80
We encourage
every family to get that
00:45:06.84\00:45:08.64
who have children
00:45:08.67\00:45:10.01
because it's something that
they can do to journal along...
00:45:10.04\00:45:12.37
The connected
family. The connected family.
00:45:12.41\00:45:13.74
And the last is the
one they wrote, okay.
00:45:13.78\00:45:15.34
By Paul and Carolyn Rayne
00:45:15.38\00:45:16.75
'cause they give you things
and you go back and journal
00:45:16.78\00:45:19.05
and then you review
what you've done to see
00:45:19.08\00:45:21.08
what can you do
different to do that.
00:45:21.12\00:45:22.88
So then we have
For Better or For Best.
00:45:22.92\00:45:26.35
Yeah, I take that
worst out of the best.
00:45:26.39\00:45:29.12
We've all been on the worst part
00:45:29.16\00:45:30.49
all of that is
going to turn it around.
00:45:30.53\00:45:32.36
So what's that book about?
00:45:32.39\00:45:33.73
So that's our
marriage book that we wrote.
00:45:33.76\00:45:35.36
And actually that
book was kind of birthed
00:45:35.40\00:45:38.47
with our last visit to 3ABN
00:45:38.50\00:45:40.20
when we did the
Marriage Heart to Heart series.
00:45:40.24\00:45:42.77
And again this is
a very practical book
00:45:42.80\00:45:45.17
not because we wrote
it because it is, okay?
00:45:45.21\00:45:47.81
We both write
about the same thing,
00:45:47.84\00:45:50.05
her's in the italics,
00:45:50.08\00:45:51.41
so that you can see
the woman's perspective.
00:45:51.45\00:45:53.62
And we just give in to the
nuts and bolts of daily life
00:45:53.65\00:45:56.32
in the marriage.
00:45:56.35\00:45:57.69
And how self works
00:45:57.72\00:45:59.05
and how God wants to
work to deal with self.
00:45:59.09\00:46:01.19
So yeah, so we would
encourage all the readers
00:46:01.22\00:46:03.89
to get the book, read it.
00:46:03.93\00:46:05.59
And the next book is I
Choose, I think, His Way.
00:46:05.63\00:46:09.66
That was
written by Hannah Rayne.
00:46:09.70\00:46:11.07
Paul and Carolyn's oldest.
00:46:11.10\00:46:13.03
And she wrote it
when she was 14 years old.
00:46:13.07\00:46:15.14
We read it and we were moved.
00:46:15.17\00:46:17.27
The relationship, a young person
00:46:17.31\00:46:18.81
can have the insight
00:46:18.84\00:46:20.18
and depths of God in
a young person's life.
00:46:20.21\00:46:23.28
Very powerful, very
practical, very simple.
00:46:23.31\00:46:27.22
I was expecting a
14-year old edition.
00:46:27.25\00:46:31.89
That's not negative.
00:46:31.92\00:46:33.25
That's just reality
00:46:33.29\00:46:34.62
'cause I knew she had
an experience with God.
00:46:34.66\00:46:36.22
But when we read that
I was brought to tears.
00:46:36.26\00:46:38.49
I mean, this is,
yeah, a youth book.
00:46:38.53\00:46:42.00
But I tell you what?
It goes beyond the youth.
00:46:42.03\00:46:44.37
So it's not just for the young
people is what you're saying.
00:46:44.40\00:46:47.17
Any age could
benefit. It is for any age.
00:46:47.20\00:46:48.57
Yeah, every age.
00:46:48.60\00:46:49.94
But it definitely the
youth, in this day and age,
00:46:49.97\00:46:52.64
the youth are being
pulled on every side.
00:46:52.67\00:46:55.01
Then one more we saw
there is Home School.
00:46:55.04\00:46:56.81
Yes.
00:46:56.85\00:46:58.18
Tell us a little
bit about that resource.
00:46:58.21\00:46:59.71
Powerful potentials of
home school, that books is...
00:46:59.75\00:47:02.48
Say one more time,
00:47:02.52\00:47:03.85
powerful
potentials of Home School.
00:47:03.89\00:47:07.26
Because we believe education
00:47:07.29\00:47:09.62
is more than the
scholastic aspect.
00:47:09.66\00:47:11.93
Education is
character development.
00:47:11.96\00:47:14.10
Therefore, the
potential of the education
00:47:14.13\00:47:16.53
we give our children has
eternal benefits and results.
00:47:16.56\00:47:19.87
That's what God wants us to
put in our minds as parents,
00:47:19.90\00:47:22.50
and we believe very
strongly in Christian education.
00:47:22.54\00:47:25.31
And not every parent
or every child, you know,
00:47:25.34\00:47:27.98
has the opportunity to attend
a formal church school setting.
00:47:28.01\00:47:33.38
And so we were in that situation
00:47:33.42\00:47:35.98
and we had the
desire to homeschool anyway.
00:47:36.02\00:47:38.32
And so we wanted to do that.
00:47:38.35\00:47:41.39
God put us on a journey
00:47:41.42\00:47:42.86
and that journey is in the book.
00:47:42.89\00:47:44.73
It's very simply written.
00:47:44.76\00:47:46.73
But it covers a few areas
that have been very helpful.
00:47:46.76\00:47:50.07
And to recognize again
00:47:50.10\00:47:51.57
that we want to focus
on character development,
00:47:51.60\00:47:53.54
God uses the scholastic aspects
to develop the character.
00:47:53.57\00:47:56.87
Amen. That's fantastic.
00:47:56.91\00:47:58.24
Then I know your
family's involved with music.
00:47:58.27\00:48:00.04
And so you have some
CD's also that are available.
00:48:00.08\00:48:02.71
Tell us about
those because, you know,
00:48:02.74\00:48:04.08
as we were shown before show
the graphic, tell us quickly.
00:48:04.11\00:48:06.25
Okay, here is the
graphic. Let's look that.
00:48:06.28\00:48:07.68
So we've got several
CDs here. They have hymns.
00:48:07.72\00:48:09.62
Yeah, that's his favorite hymns.
00:48:09.65\00:48:11.35
It was a fun with
our whole family did this
00:48:11.39\00:48:13.25
with a very dear
friend of ours from Australia
00:48:13.29\00:48:15.79
who's a very beautiful pianist.
00:48:15.82\00:48:17.39
And that's another story.
00:48:17.43\00:48:18.76
But he did all the piano
accompaniment for families
00:48:18.79\00:48:22.36
that can use it
for family worship
00:48:22.40\00:48:24.20
who maybe don't
have a piano in the home.
00:48:24.23\00:48:26.50
And, you know...
00:48:26.53\00:48:27.94
So there is no vocal
on that. It is vocal.
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Our family is
singing every hymn,
00:48:31.17\00:48:32.81
all the verses in harmonies.
00:48:32.84\00:48:34.18
Our children, yeah.
00:48:34.21\00:48:35.64
Because all the
verses tell the real story.
00:48:35.68\00:48:38.18
That's how we feel
anyway. But we do love music.
00:48:38.21\00:48:41.35
And we did a
scripture song as well.
00:48:41.38\00:48:43.52
I saw that one.
00:48:43.55\00:48:44.89
And that was done when
our children quite young
00:48:44.92\00:48:46.76
just I was even
reading when we did that one.
00:48:46.79\00:48:49.42
And then...
00:48:49.46\00:48:50.79
We actually did two
scriptures only one...
00:48:50.83\00:48:52.39
One is only
available now online,
00:48:52.43\00:48:54.53
and most of those we wrote,
00:48:54.56\00:48:56.23
so you can download it that way.
00:48:56.26\00:48:58.60
So the favorite scripture songs,
00:48:58.63\00:49:01.14
and then the Rayne's
have their two Little Lessons.
00:49:01.17\00:49:06.54
Hannah and
Caleb did To Know Him.
00:49:06.57\00:49:08.41
And the One
Harmony Him was our family.
00:49:08.44\00:49:10.65
Oh, that's great. Yeah, so.
00:49:10.68\00:49:12.91
When I was getting through that
00:49:12.95\00:49:14.28
I know that you've
been on 3ABN before
00:49:14.32\00:49:15.82
and your family's been on,
00:49:15.85\00:49:17.19
tell us quickly I know
we're running out of time,
00:49:17.22\00:49:18.55
you have some grandchildren
00:49:18.59\00:49:19.92
just tell us
quickly about your family
00:49:19.95\00:49:21.29
'cause there are
some people are saying,
00:49:21.32\00:49:22.66
"We want to know how
their kids are doing?"
00:49:22.69\00:49:24.03
Well, thank you.
I always want to.
00:49:24.06\00:49:25.39
Did we talk about
the grandchildren?
00:49:25.43\00:49:27.40
You know, we're at
that age in life now
00:49:27.43\00:49:28.76
we've got five grandchildren,
00:49:28.80\00:49:30.13
all four and
under, so busy moms.
00:49:30.17\00:49:32.83
And we're loving that.
00:49:32.87\00:49:34.24
But we're also loving the fact
that we're seeing a whole new,
00:49:34.27\00:49:37.51
we call it a crop, a whole crop.
00:49:37.54\00:49:38.97
New generation.
00:49:39.01\00:49:42.11
Whole new
generation of young people
00:49:42.14\00:49:43.78
with their young children
coming back to Family Retreat.
00:49:43.81\00:49:47.28
Our children are among those.
00:49:47.32\00:49:49.38
And it is the beautiful thing
00:49:49.42\00:49:50.75
because here's
what we've noticed,
00:49:50.79\00:49:52.32
observation over the years,
00:49:52.35\00:49:53.69
is that they
have their children,
00:49:53.72\00:49:56.52
they are at family retreat,
00:49:56.56\00:49:58.19
they're busy with
the infants and all this.
00:49:58.23\00:50:00.16
And then it gets a
couple years into it.
00:50:00.20\00:50:01.93
And they say, "We need
to go to Family Retreat."
00:50:01.96\00:50:04.47
Okay, because...
That's an encouragement.
00:50:04.50\00:50:06.63
Yes. Exactly.
00:50:06.67\00:50:08.30
So, you know, that's been great.
00:50:08.34\00:50:09.84
And we're enjoying
that phase of life.
00:50:09.87\00:50:12.17
Do your children live near you
or you are distance from them?
00:50:12.21\00:50:15.01
Well, unfortunately,
they all live away
00:50:15.04\00:50:17.45
'cause they live closer
to us when we are in Montana.
00:50:17.48\00:50:20.75
But our girls and
their husbands and families
00:50:20.78\00:50:23.42
are in Washington State, okay?
00:50:23.45\00:50:25.72
It's also about
22 hours from us.
00:50:25.75\00:50:27.82
And our son is in
Irvine, California.
00:50:27.86\00:50:30.69
That's six hours.
00:50:30.73\00:50:32.26
So anyway, we're not as
close as we like them to be.
00:50:32.29\00:50:35.16
But we're so close as a family.
00:50:35.20\00:50:36.56
Oh, absolutely. That's good.
00:50:36.60\00:50:38.33
Close to the Lord
and pray for one another,
00:50:38.37\00:50:40.40
encourage one another.
00:50:40.44\00:50:41.77
That's important.
00:50:41.80\00:50:43.14
Yeah, you know, I think of the
prayers I think of my parents
00:50:43.17\00:50:45.04
that I know how they spent,
00:50:45.07\00:50:46.74
I don't even know all the hours
00:50:46.78\00:50:48.11
that they spent
in prayer for me,
00:50:48.14\00:50:50.25
and I appreciate the prayers
and their continued prayers.
00:50:50.28\00:50:52.75
And I know your children
do and your grandchildren now.
00:50:52.78\00:50:55.78
And I have to say
you all look young
00:50:55.82\00:50:57.59
because I know
about 40 years of marriage
00:50:57.62\00:51:00.89
and the ministries in
the mid to late 20s, right?
00:51:00.92\00:51:02.92
How many years of rest...
We started in '89 officially.
00:51:02.96\00:51:05.59
It's incredible.
So number of years.
00:51:05.63\00:51:08.00
And God has blessed you
both. Thank you all so much.
00:51:08.03\00:51:11.53
What we want to do right now
00:51:11.57\00:51:12.90
we want to put up
the contact information
00:51:12.93\00:51:14.90
for Restoration International.
00:51:14.94\00:51:16.67
We've put up the web
address several times.
00:51:16.71\00:51:19.31
But we want to put
the entire thing up.
00:51:19.34\00:51:21.38
I want to encourage you
00:51:21.41\00:51:22.74
if you want to go to
one of these retreats,
00:51:22.78\00:51:24.61
Family Retreat, Men's
Retreat, Marriage Retreat,
00:51:24.65\00:51:27.58
if you need
counseling, they counsel people,
00:51:27.62\00:51:30.49
you can contact of them.
00:51:30.52\00:51:32.25
If you would like to
00:51:32.29\00:51:33.62
financially
support this ministry
00:51:33.66\00:51:35.12
so that other people
can experience healing,
00:51:35.16\00:51:38.89
other people can have
restoration of their families.
00:51:38.93\00:51:41.70
If you would like
any of the resources
00:51:41.73\00:51:44.20
that we talked about here,
00:51:44.23\00:51:46.07
here is the way that you
can contact them for yourself.
00:51:46.10\00:51:51.67
Restoration
International is committed
00:51:51.71\00:51:53.74
to the fulltime ministry of
the practical power of Christ.
00:51:53.78\00:51:57.55
They do that
through church seminars,
00:51:57.58\00:51:59.65
public
conventions, family retreats,
00:51:59.68\00:52:02.32
personal counseling, and books,
and audiovisual materials.
00:52:02.35\00:52:06.42
To find out more
information about their retreats
00:52:06.45\00:52:08.79
or to invite them to speak,
00:52:08.82\00:52:10.63
visit their website
Restoration-International.org.
00:52:10.66\00:52:14.76
That's
Restoration-International.org.
00:52:14.80\00:52:18.20
You may also call
them at 928-275-2301
00:52:18.23\00:52:23.64
or write to them at
Restoration International,
00:52:23.67\00:52:26.78
PO Box 145,
Seligman, Arizona, 86337.
00:52:26.81\00:52:33.28