3ABN Today

3ABN Russia Trip

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Danny Shelton and Yvonne Lewis (Host), Tim Parton, Brad Walker, Greg and Jill Morikone, Rodney Laney

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01:06 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN today program.
01:09 Thank you for joining us.
01:10 This is gonna be a great day, Yvonne.
01:12 It is. You know, why?
01:13 We've already been having fun
01:14 and we've not even been on camera yet, right?
01:16 I know. I know.
01:17 And this is gonna be a great program.
01:19 Again, thank you for joining us.
01:21 Thank you for your love and prayers
01:22 and financial support of 3ABN,
01:25 so that we can continue to take
01:26 this great gospel of the kingdom
01:28 into all over the world.
01:29 And today, it's just, it's a thrill
01:32 for all of us here
01:33 and we'll introduce everybody here in a bit.
01:36 But to celebrate, we recently came back from Nizhny Novgorod,
01:40 Russia, where we celebrated
01:42 the 25th anniversary of 3ABN, Russia.
01:46 That's amazing.
01:47 First of all I can't imagine it's been 25 years
01:51 and it seems impossible.
01:53 Some of you know, older folk know what I'm talking about,
01:56 you look back 25 years.
01:58 But it's amazing what God has wrought in Russia,
02:01 the thousands and thousands of souls that have come to know
02:05 the Lord Jesus Christ through the ministry.
02:07 Julia Outkina and the rest of the 3ABN team there.
02:10 And so let's introduce.
02:12 Why don't we introduce our family today?
02:15 It's not guests, we're family.
02:16 Absolutely. All right.
02:17 But, you know, my brain always freezes when I do.
02:19 No, it won't with these folks.
02:21 You ever had that just brain freeze to...
02:23 Greg and Jill and Tim and...
02:24 Yeah, okay, okay, good.
02:25 Okay, so to your immediate right,
02:28 we have Greg Morikone, who is our Vice-President
02:32 and he's the Director of Programming Production.
02:35 Yeah, production, and you know we work with a wonderful team.
02:38 Yes. It's fantastic.
02:39 It really is and it's fun, we enjoy production.
02:41 And it's such a...
02:43 It's so great like,
02:45 Greg's office is right across from mine.
02:47 Well, and Jill and she's right next door
02:50 and so I get to kind of peek out
02:52 or yell out or whatever, it's great.
02:54 It's nice to know and it is need
02:56 because we're part of the family.
02:58 And, you know, people don't... I mean, they see it on set,
02:59 but we really do get along together.
03:01 Amen.
03:02 Yeah, we do, we do, for sure.
03:04 And then we have his lovely wife Jill,
03:07 who is the Corporate Secretary for 3ABN
03:10 and doing an amazing job as well.
03:12 Absolutely.
03:13 And I mean, they're, they are here like...
03:16 I came in... Round the clock almost.
03:18 This weekend, on Monday morning
03:19 and there were 50 beautiful letters written.
03:23 So when you read those letters, you know, they didn't...
03:26 I don't speak that well.
03:27 So, you know, that Jill actually wrote them
03:30 that 50 over the weekend and then taken Sabbath off.
03:33 I didn't give her much time for herself.
03:35 So you all gonna need to take a vacation
03:37 because you work too hard.
03:39 So I told them that before.
03:40 I said you work too hard.
03:42 Instead of taking 30 minutes for lunch,
03:44 I want you once in a while take 45 minutes."
03:46 Oh!
03:47 We have the best boss.
03:49 Isn't that wonderful?
03:50 I want to give you plenty of time to rest and...
03:52 Can we have that today?
03:54 Well, not today, but maybe in a month or two.
03:57 Not today, okay.
03:59 Maybe the beginning of the year,
04:00 hope you'll start that.
04:02 But that's once a week or once a month you get an extra.
04:04 So we want to make sure they're rested.
04:06 But then we have Brother Tim Parton.
04:09 And Tim, thank you for what you do for the cause of God
04:12 and General Manager of Praise Him, right?
04:15 Praise Him Channel. Yes.
04:17 Music, New Music Channel. Yes.
04:18 That's coming along, I think beautifully
04:22 and recording more and more programs.
04:24 You're trying to get a,
04:25 you know, get a bank full of them
04:27 so that we can come out with a blast.
04:29 Yes, yes. Right?
04:31 Yeah, absolutely.
04:33 And so I appreciate you.
04:35 And, of course, then we have Bradley Walker
04:38 and we have Rodney Laney.
04:39 Now, you two guys
04:41 are 99.9% always in the control rooms, right?
04:46 Directing, you know, editing, you're on the traveling
04:52 and behind the scenes.
04:53 But these guys have been here.
04:56 You joined us, about how old were you?
04:59 About what year, whichever you want to say,
05:01 did you all come to?
05:02 I started in '92.
05:04 '92? Wow!
05:05 Okay, and you can tell by his face,
05:07 he was a baby in '92.
05:09 So, and Bradley?
05:10 I started in '90.
05:12 '90?
05:13 So if you think about that,
05:14 all those years, that's amazing.
05:16 You were teenagers when you first came, right?
05:18 Both of you in here, and now they're main directors.
05:20 And without these two,
05:22 3ABN would not look what you see today.
05:24 That is correct.
05:25 They have, and I'm just gonna,
05:27 'cause, I don't know if I've told you guys recently
05:29 but I'm just gonna brag about you right now.
05:32 They have...
05:33 Well, remember not too much in my honoree.
05:35 Oh, my God. So keep it kind of...
05:37 Keep it on the professional level.
05:38 Okay, good.
05:39 So they are wonderful to work with
05:42 because they are both creative and competent.
05:46 So it's not just, you know, loose creativity
05:48 and they don't know what to do with it.
05:50 They know how to harness it by the grace of God
05:53 and then they have such an eye.
05:57 They have such high standards.
06:00 They don't just let things go.
06:01 I mean, I'm just so thankful
06:04 to have you guys here as directors
06:06 and to have worked with you.
06:08 And I need to say that publicly
06:09 because I don't know
06:10 if I've had the chance to do that
06:12 to acknowledge what you do publicly.
06:13 They do an outstanding job.
06:16 I mean, all kinds of, you know, opens and video
06:20 and then like when we did "Unclean Spirits, Unplugged,"
06:25 I mean, they were just, they were just excellent.
06:28 So I really appreciate all of you guys.
06:30 Absolutely, so it's good to get you
06:32 in front of the camera once in a while.
06:34 And then you can see how we feel
06:36 when we're in front of the camera,
06:38 the camera is looking me.
06:39 And Brad's shaking his head like.
06:42 If I can confess,
06:44 we were planning for the program, you know.
06:45 And said, oh, we all went to Russia together
06:47 so we should do this program.
06:49 And so I asked Brad and said, "How would you do the program?"
06:52 And he's like, "You know, Jill, I just never do programming
06:54 and I don't get in front of the camera,
06:56 people have tried for years."
06:57 And then Greg, all of a sudden, he talks to him
07:00 and then all of a sudden Brad's on the programming.
07:02 And I thought, now, how did that just happened?
07:05 How did he do that?
07:08 Brad said, "Well, Jill asked me and Greg told me."
07:12 Okay, that made a difference.
07:15 We're not gonna get into Rodney's deal,
07:17 but we're glad that you're here.
07:19 And it makes sense that they come back
07:21 because when we very first went to Russia in '92,
07:25 in May of 1992,
07:27 and we taped with the Carter Report.
07:29 Elder John Carter had asked us to go to Russia.
07:32 And you guys were part
07:33 of the production team back then.
07:36 So I know you were around what, 20 years old,
07:39 somewhere in that area, give or take a year or two.
07:42 But they were there.
07:43 And I hadn't realized
07:45 'cause I'd been back like 20 times over the years.
07:47 But you hadn't really been back since we first started
07:51 and you saw the beginnings.
07:53 So we want to talk a little bit about
07:55 and we're going to hear in a few moments
07:57 about your feelings of what you see now
08:01 and about the production that's going on.
08:03 And you all had time
08:05 and I don't always have that time
08:06 when you were there.
08:07 But Greg and Jill and you guys,
08:09 you were able to spend time with their production people,
08:12 you and some of their managers
08:14 and you know, traveling to
08:15 and talking to different people to get the feel of 3ABN Russia.
08:20 But we wanna... I think we should start off.
08:22 Maybe we'll have some, a little video footage
08:25 and some pictures here and there.
08:27 But, talking about your impressions,
08:29 first of all you go to...
08:31 You've never been to Moscow, Tim?
08:33 Right. And Greg and Jill?
08:34 Never been.
08:36 And you guys have been, but it had been a long time.
08:38 What was your impression when you land,
08:40 of course, it's beautiful airport now,
08:42 when you went before it wasn't,
08:44 but a beautiful airport
08:45 and then you go to Red Square.
08:47 What does that do to you?
08:50 Well, personally, I mean, there was,
08:51 you know, so much history.
08:54 But I really wish that I had seen
08:57 what you guys had seen 25 years ago.
09:00 Just to be...
09:01 for the difference to see the comparison of what the way,
09:06 because it's very modern, very, you know, the conveniences.
09:10 There's McDonald's and Cinnabar
09:11 and, you know, things that we're used to here.
09:15 But when you go to Red Square there's nothing like it?
09:18 No. Absolutely.
09:19 Of course, the architecture and the...
09:23 It was cold.
09:24 I know that, but...
09:26 It was cold. But it was...
09:27 Yeah, it was just remarkable.
09:29 And you know, places...
09:32 I've been to a lot of places
09:35 and so places don't impress me as much as the people do.
09:38 And unfortunately I don't always get
09:40 a lot of time to spend with people.
09:42 But in this case being there and that's like when we went
09:44 to London and Honduras and to Russia,
09:49 getting to be with the people, that is just...
09:52 that is what, that's what endears me to where we go.
09:56 So thank you for the opportunities,
09:58 I'll have to say that.
09:59 Right. You guys do... to Red Square.
10:01 It was amazing actually to get...
10:02 Yeah, I mean, you know, Moscow is a very modern city.
10:05 You know, and again I don't have
10:06 the comparison of 25 years ago.
10:08 But when you're there in Red Square,
10:09 it's very rich with history.
10:12 And to think about the people that has suffered too,
10:14 you know, 'cause with that history
10:16 there's a lot of suffering, a lot of that too.
10:18 And so, you know, yeah, it was just phenomenal.
10:20 And then right past
10:21 the Saint Basil's Cathedral is the bridge.
10:24 And that was amazing to me,
10:26 where Julia's brother is unfortunately assassinated.
10:30 And yeah, yeah.
10:31 Boris Nemtsov.
10:33 Yeah, it was an amazing experience to be there
10:35 and then to travel of course by bus to Nizhny Novgorod,
10:38 it's amazing to see.
10:39 For Yvonne and, and I think I can speak for both of us
10:42 from our age group.
10:44 When I first went to Russia in 92,
10:49 I had seen all my life.
10:51 I grew up during the Cold War
10:54 and I remember seeing on television,
10:56 Red Square with hundreds of tanks
10:58 and with soldiers marching
11:00 as this could be a nuclear war any time
11:03 and like it's not a place you ever dream,
11:06 you would ever set foot in.
11:08 And then even in the '80s, and then all of a sudden
11:12 between '90, '91, everything happened.
11:15 And then three years later,
11:18 you know, it wasn't only two or three years before that
11:21 when Reagan was saying, Mr. Gorbachev,
11:24 you know, tear down, you know, basically for Germany
11:30 and for the Iron Curtain, we call it,
11:33 basically saying tear that down.
11:35 And then to actually see it happen
11:37 and to be over there,
11:38 so always every time I'm there,
11:41 I'm amazed and studying with Lenin
11:43 and we didn't get to Honor Lenin's tomb this time,
11:45 but I've been down there to see it.
11:47 So the history of Russia is incredible.
11:50 But to realize 73 years of communism,
11:53 where you couldn't speak the name of Jesus,
11:55 no Bibles were allowed and people would have to write
11:58 Bibles by hand and hide
12:00 and many people were sent to Siberia
12:02 and many were executed
12:04 because they just wanted to have a Bible
12:06 or were caught printing or reading a Bible
12:09 or even those things.
12:11 So for us to go today,
12:12 now let's go forward a little bit,
12:15 we get on a bus and we go about six hours or so,
12:19 you get out in front of the 3ABN center there.
12:23 Let me hear your impressions, Brad Rodney.
12:26 Well, that was the first time we've been to that facility.
12:29 So we hadn't actually seen it in person.
12:31 So everything we had seen was video.
12:34 And you couldn't...
12:36 I don't think there's any video or any pictures
12:38 that could give you the true scale
12:41 of what this place is.
12:42 You know, I was totally blown away by the size, first off
12:46 and then just, how they utilize every single bit of space
12:50 that's in there for the community,
12:52 for conference offices for,
12:54 you know, for the production center.
12:56 But, you know, there's not one little bit of space
12:59 that's not being used for something important, you know.
13:02 Yeah, few hundred square feet that's it all lies.
13:06 And it's just unbelievable the amount.
13:08 Like, we would get lost walking through there talking...
13:11 Oh, yeah.
13:12 We turn this way, they would turn that way.
13:14 Yeah. And you all didn't even go in.
13:15 There's a full basement under, near all that too.
13:18 You really get lost down there for sure.
13:21 We did get lost one time.
13:22 We, it was late one night after the service
13:26 and we had to go pack the cameras and the computer up
13:29 and our driver was waiting on this downstairs.
13:32 So me and Rodney ran up to the office to grab our computer
13:35 and we come back, we're like left, right, which way.
13:39 So we just kind of calling Jill and Greg.
13:41 You guys were in here somewhere.
13:43 We can't get out, yeah.
13:45 You can help us, help us, find a way out.
13:47 But, Tim, your first impression.
13:49 You see the center and it was all lit up,
13:52 we were there at night.
13:53 It was so, so, such a commercial looking place.
13:57 You know, there wasn't...
13:59 And so to see it is, it's amazing,
14:03 but then to hear how it all happened
14:05 and to hear the minimal equipment that they had
14:10 and the minimal manpower,
14:14 you know, it was just the vision.
14:18 You begin to see all of it come together
14:21 and then you're looking at this and you think,
14:24 "Oh, this had to be God."
14:26 And truly, you know, without even over spiritualizing it,
14:29 it truly had to be God, it's just amazing.
14:32 And, so later I will talk more about,
14:36 you know, the vision that you, that you had in that happening.
14:40 But, you know, I want a...
14:43 I'd like to build a tiny house and I can't even picture that.
14:48 And to see this massive structure,
14:52 three storey's and...
14:54 Six storey's in the back.
14:56 Yeah. It was, it was...
14:58 I was speechless, I really was.
15:00 And then, half the time I couldn't see it
15:01 'cause I had tears in my eyes.
15:03 So it was amazing.
15:05 Yvonne, you were there five years ago,
15:07 but even what you saw now?
15:09 Yeah.
15:11 Each time, the two times that I've been,
15:14 have been just such a spiritual experience for me.
15:18 Because you see the building and the building has just been,
15:24 they've just maximized everything.
15:26 And then the people,
15:29 even though we don't speak the same language,
15:32 we do, because we have the Lord.
15:35 And so that bridge is everything
15:38 and so their kindness and their warmth
15:40 and their generosity and their hospitality,
15:42 I mean, it just makes you feel like, wow.
15:45 These are our sisters and brothers
15:47 who, even though right here,
15:48 we don't speak the same language.
15:50 We are all under the same family.
15:53 And so it was just, it was beautiful.
15:56 And we had a meeting in one of the rooms
15:59 and we got to share.
16:01 And, I mean, even though poor Julia was translating,
16:05 you know, I mean, just every second, it was just...
16:09 to me it was just such a beautiful time in the Lord
16:12 and you could just sense
16:14 the presence of God in that room.
16:15 And so that, that facility
16:18 which is the largest Protestant facility
16:21 in the X-Soviet Union.
16:23 That's what I'm told.
16:25 That is...
16:27 It's just so amazing to me that God used you to do that.
16:32 And I'm so proud that you were obedient
16:35 and you followed what God told you to do.
16:37 And that is the proof,
16:39 that is the fruit that has been born as a result of that.
16:42 Well, there was a need after we went without a Carter
16:45 that baptized 2,532 people.
16:48 And so you had,
16:50 I think 27 ministers baptizing for hours
16:53 and then in the next week, they'd be more to get through
16:56 that many people in the cold Volga River.
16:58 Oh!
16:59 You know, it's amazing 'cause it was like May,
17:01 but it was cold there in May.
17:03 And yet these people went in that cold water
17:05 but come out smiling and praising the Lord.
17:07 So then when we met with the conference leaders,
17:10 they said, "We only have one church
17:12 in this huge city of three and a half million.
17:14 It only holds 200 people.
17:16 What are we gonna do? You have to help us."
17:18 So that's when we met
17:20 with the leadership and decided.
17:22 So I said, "Let's see, if we can find some property,"
17:24 because for the first time in 70 some years,
17:27 because Julia Outkina's brother,
17:30 Boris Nemtsov was the Governor, he is very democratic young
17:34 33-year-old, 34-year-old governor,
17:36 said, "We're gonna open this up to foreign businesses."
17:39 Never that happened before.
17:40 So we actually could buy property.
17:43 So I said to him basal story,
17:46 I was the president and vice president, Alexander.
17:49 And I said, "Well, you guys, let's find something."
17:52 And we were there several days.
17:53 I said, "See if there's anything that's already built
17:55 or property or something we could purchase."
17:59 And so they came and got me and sometimes without,
18:02 if Julia wasn't there, we have a real hard time communicating,
18:05 but they wanted to show me the facility,
18:07 so we were driving.
18:08 And I hadn't realized that till this trip,
18:11 when Julie explained to me.
18:13 I thought they took me to the building,
18:14 but when we were driving along, there had been a lot of rain
18:17 and the car flooded because it literally,
18:19 the streets were overflowing and so it stopped
18:22 and we got out of the car and walked up.
18:24 And behind a lot of trees, there was some old building
18:28 that looked like, at that time, it's 20 some years ago
18:31 it had been started
18:33 but it had not been finished by a long shot,
18:35 but it was just covered by all its growth and brushes.
18:38 So we started looking around and looked in the basement
18:41 and I saw big holes,
18:42 they were pumping water out of there.
18:45 It must have had five, six feet of water in this basement
18:48 and yet, it was looked like
18:49 an abandoned bombed-out shelter.
18:52 And so that's the place we bought.
18:54 I thought they took me there to show me the place
18:56 and they told me, "No, our car stalled."
18:58 And so when we got out, we saw this place.
19:01 So we checked into that and that's what we bought.
19:04 And so I think $150,000... Phenomenal.
19:07 And we put a lot of money in it after that,
19:10 but at the time, the ruble was 7,000 rubles per dollar.
19:14 And what was it, when we were there?
19:16 58? 58.
19:17 So a lot of difference, our money went so much farther.
19:21 So thanks to our viewers and supporters of 3ABN.
19:23 Thank you for what you do for the cause of God
19:26 because without you, this couldn't have happened.
19:29 So when we go over there, it wasn't anything,
19:32 in other words we just took it one step at a time
19:35 and the Lord showed me
19:36 Julia Outkina was the person we could trust,
19:39 to put in charge, then I came home
19:41 and called John Cantor, my cousin's husband John,
19:44 I knew he was in the building business, construction.
19:48 Took some convincing, I told him.
19:50 He said, "Well, how long would you need me?"
19:52 I said, if you'd just go for three months,
19:54 that three months was four years,
19:56 so of his life,
19:57 but John passed away few years ago
20:01 and I was able to talk to him, literally,
20:03 maybe minutes or an hour before he died.
20:05 I was in Australia and he wasn't able to say much,
20:08 but his brother said, when I mentioned Russia,
20:11 he smiled, his eyes were shut.
20:13 And his wife Janice has said before and we all knew it,
20:17 he said, "This was why I was created.
20:18 This was...
20:20 In my life,
20:21 this is all the things I've done."
20:22 He was a school teacher,
20:24 church school teacher, a builder,
20:25 nothing Russia was what I was born to do
20:29 and I believe it.
20:30 So his touch is what you guys see,
20:33 all that build in second floor
20:35 'cause a lot of that was just two storey.
20:37 He built the third floors on it.
20:38 He did so much of the building in it.
20:40 He designed everything, working with local architects.
20:44 And so to see that facility, how it got done?
20:47 We just did it one bite at a time.
20:49 Viewers would send money
20:51 and we would send it every month
20:52 and somehow it all got paid for.
20:54 And it was only through you and the Lord.
20:56 So thank you so much for that.
20:59 I want to talk some about the people there.
21:03 And Tim, you want to talk some about that too.
21:06 You met the people.
21:07 I don't think any of us
21:09 were at some point were dry eyed
21:11 when we saw all the people and when we met them.
21:13 First of all when they greeted us,
21:15 tell us about, Tim, the greeting with them.
21:17 You're a musician.
21:19 Yeah, they did a traditional
21:21 Russian greeting with the salt and the bread.
21:23 And they had a little pit band over in the corner with those.
21:27 I don't even know
21:28 what the instruments they were playing
21:30 but they were, it was just they were in the costumes
21:33 and it was just...
21:36 The fact that they cared, you know, they...
21:39 It was a little dance, culture dance.
21:40 Yeah, the dance, right.
21:42 Everything was just...
21:44 It was just from the heart.
21:45 And I'm thinking,
21:47 you know, I had seen Julia
21:50 and I guess a couple of the other gentleman,
21:54 Alexi, at the camp meeting, they had been here.
21:58 And I was thinking,
21:59 "What did I do special to go out of my way
22:02 to make them feel welcome?"
22:03 Oh, wow.
22:05 And I don't remember doing anything.
22:07 I didn't even say howdy or anything like
22:10 you might say down in the South.
22:12 So my southern hospitality really got a lesson
22:15 when I went over there
22:16 just because, and everything that they did
22:18 from the night we...
22:19 You know, when we flew in,
22:21 we took the long bus ride from Moscow
22:23 and they were waiting there for us with crapes.
22:26 And, I mean, the big long table set out
22:29 and it was, it was late
22:30 and we probably all wanted to go to bed.
22:32 But the fact that
22:33 they had prepared a meal for us,
22:35 that was just over the top and that was their heart.
22:38 They were, you know...
22:39 And so I was just put to shame, really was.
22:42 You know, it's incredible.
22:44 To me, what really impressed me.
22:45 We've heard the stories for years.
22:47 You know, you've shared the stories
22:48 and it's incredible to see
22:50 what God is doing
22:51 and actually to see the miracles.
22:53 But the people, the people just,
22:56 from the moment
22:57 we came through customs at the airport there.
23:00 And Julia and the whole team were right there,
23:03 you know, just on the other side of customs.
23:05 And then she said, "Okay, welcome to Russia
23:07 and you each get someone assigned to you."
23:10 So we would never be without a translator,
23:12 we would never be without someone.
23:14 And then the whole the way through,
23:16 just their heart of service, their heart of...
23:20 Their spirit of sacrifice.
23:24 You mentioned Red Square a moment ago.
23:26 And when we were there in Red Square,
23:28 the architecture just of Red Square,
23:30 Saint Basil's Cathedral,
23:32 the Kremlin, you can kind of stand
23:34 and go 360, all the way around.
23:36 And one side is Saint Basil's
23:38 and the other side is a Kremlin,
23:40 the other side was some sort of shopping mall I think.
23:42 Yeah, it used to be a government building,
23:44 but now it's a big mall there.
23:45 And then on the other side,
23:47 I forget what that building once,
23:48 but, just the whole way around
23:49 and there was that little circular.
23:52 I'm not even sure, it had a low wall.
23:54 I don't know if you saw,
23:55 it was down toward the end by Saint Basil's Cathedral
23:57 and they said,
23:58 that's where people used to be killed,
24:00 the history of Red Square and the history that's there.
24:05 But you think about the communism
24:07 that they lived under
24:09 and the sacrifices for the Gospel.
24:11 And yet their heart and their spirit of love
24:16 and to reach out
24:17 and just that welcomed us and I was put to shame.
24:22 Absolutely.
24:24 You know, just,
24:25 and God calls us to sacrifice more
24:28 and God's calling me
24:29 to reach out and love people more.
24:31 You know, just reach out and give of yourself.
24:34 Yeah. Yeah.
24:36 Yeah, what's amazing to me was, 25 years later,
24:40 Elder Carter was back doing evangelistic series
24:43 and we'll do a program on that.
24:45 And the people came out, they'd love John Carter.
24:49 And when they, that we said,
24:52 "How many of you were here 25 years ago?"
24:54 Unbelievable.
24:55 I don't know, we'll say crowd shots,
24:57 but I'd say 80% of those people were baptized 25 years ago.
25:02 Some of those were teenagers.
25:04 In fact, that conference president
25:05 was 16, 17 years old,
25:07 who was baptized during those meetings.
25:09 I think it's a treasure, so other folks there.
25:12 But they were still there
25:14 because they found something real,
25:17 something solid, something that's kept them,
25:20 you know, connected to the Lord.
25:22 And so what Elder Carter has done
25:24 and it wouldn't be right to do this program
25:26 or I wouldn't want to forget to do it or to say,
25:29 "Thank you to the Carter Report,"
25:30 John Carter, for what, your 40 some trips to Russia
25:34 holding literally dozens and dozens
25:38 of evangelistic series'
25:41 and none of them were small, he does nothing small.
25:43 Elder Carter goes in a big way,
25:46 everywhere and because of you
25:47 and your support and thank you for that.
25:50 But untold thousands,
25:52 and yeah, I believe hundreds of thousands of people
25:54 have come to know Jesus through the ministries.
25:57 And so working together with 3ABN
26:00 and Carter Report and you at home
26:02 is a win-win for everybody.
26:04 We want to talk a little bit about
26:06 the production, the work,
26:08 the crew there and I want to get Brad,
26:10 Rodney involved in that and you, Greg...
26:12 Sure.
26:13 Because we...
26:15 Were you surprised, Rodney,
26:16 when you saw the work they do there?
26:18 Oh, absolutely.
26:19 The amount of work that they do,
26:22 it's like, with the equipment that they have
26:26 and the amount of work that they do,
26:28 it's almost embarrassing.
26:30 It is.
26:31 It's almost embarrassing
26:33 what we accomplished compared to what they do
26:35 and what they have
26:37 and the way that they put their entire heart
26:41 into everything that they do.
26:42 It's not just...
26:43 Let's get a whole bunch of programs done,
26:45 so we can get them on the air
26:46 and just move on to the next one.
26:47 You know, everyone that they do,
26:49 they put a lot of heart into it.
26:51 You know, and it might not be,
26:54 let's say the most amazing thing
26:56 that you've ever seen.
26:57 But you get more of a message
26:59 because of the heart that's put into it
27:01 and all of the effort that goes into making these programs.
27:05 You know, they're not cookie cutter,
27:06 they're not just something simple.
27:09 I mean, everything is difficult and done well, done very well.
27:13 Brad, their creativity? It's amazing.
27:16 Yeah, they...
27:17 What I just can't get over...
27:20 When I saw the kids first,
27:22 there was there our translators.
27:23 What I really was impressed the most was,
27:27 one of the girls that was there
27:29 and she was going
27:30 to the Carter Report 25 years ago,
27:32 she was one-year-old.
27:34 Oh, yeah. Mom and dad got saved.
27:36 She has been raised her whole life now
27:38 in the church working full time.
27:40 Elena. Yeah.
27:41 And I think she's dating one of the guys
27:43 that's there now.
27:44 He wasn't even born a year, an year after that.
27:47 So it's amazing that these people,
27:50 you know, have been raised in church,
27:53 you know, where would they have been that way,
27:56 you know, if there was no Carter there.
27:58 But I couldn't get over
28:00 the amount of work that they're doing.
28:03 Just amazing.
28:04 Just they've got the same 3ABN,
28:08 go get them, I guess, as we have here.
28:11 Because the guys that work in production now,
28:14 they were carrying the bricks and they were helping
28:16 put the building together before production started.
28:20 And I think that building would have existed today,
28:25 even with the hammers
28:26 and, you know, all the carpentry equipment
28:30 that they had back then.
28:32 They were gonna build that building,
28:33 you know, but they didn't have the tools needed,
28:37 you know, at that earlier stage.
28:38 And I think that's the same,
28:40 that's in the production and the guys have now.
28:42 They're doing such an amazing job with,
28:45 really what we'd call,
28:47 you know, not the best equipment that's out there
28:50 but they can produce programming and stuff.
28:54 And I think God's in,
28:55 you know, he was in the building,
28:57 making the building happening.
28:58 He's definitely in charge of getting
29:01 these productions up and on the air.
29:03 Say for 10 or 15 years, that they...
29:07 Well, when we first got there and you guys remember this.
29:10 You go into any...
29:11 There wasn't really stores per se
29:13 or any shopping centers or even grocery stores.
29:16 There was just places you get potatoes here,
29:19 somebody sitting out on the street,
29:20 maybe some, you know, cabbage here
29:23 and it took a Russian woman several hours a day to go out
29:27 and try to gather up enough food.
29:29 But when you went to pay,
29:31 you remember what you paid when they counted your...
29:34 wasn't a computer, was it?
29:35 No. No.
29:37 An abacus. It's the abacus.
29:38 Abacus.
29:39 Which was used in Bible times and like I had no idea whether,
29:43 you know, this was right or wrong.
29:44 I just paid whatever they told me
29:46 'cause they were like flipping these beads back and forth.
29:49 Oh, we had this little $99 hand computers,
29:53 they were astounded by that, that's amazing.
29:56 So when we go there and see that they had nothing
30:00 and only recently the wifi, there were no cable stations,
30:05 very little equipment, production equipment.
30:08 No one had cameras or videos.
30:11 The Russian people, they didn't have Bibles.
30:14 So this is not like
30:16 we've been developing for the last 25 years
30:19 with all the tools.
30:21 For the last first 10 or 15 years,
30:23 they still had hardly no tools to work with,
30:26 except what we took them.
30:28 And so in just the last few years
30:30 under President Putin,
30:32 Russia is thriving actually right now.
30:35 So it's amazing, but again the people, Greg,
30:38 you and Jill got to spend some time
30:40 with some of the administrators and all.
30:42 Yeah, it was fantastic and it really goes back to,
30:44 they have...
30:45 they give even if they don't have a lot
30:47 and that is what touches my heart so much.
30:49 You know, even if it's just something,
30:51 maybe just small,
30:52 they still want to give it to you.
30:53 And with such...
30:55 I guess you could say love.
30:57 I'm seeing their faces are happy
30:59 and you know they're happy there.
31:02 When we went, Jill and I had the opportunity
31:03 to go through some of the production offices.
31:06 And again, it's amazing because they don't have a lot,
31:08 but yet we didn't hear any complaining.
31:10 You know, it's just a lot of joy
31:12 in what they were doing,
31:13 with what they had and it's a rebuke,
31:17 it is, you know.
31:18 Jill and I were talking.
31:19 You know, sometimes I can complain about this
31:21 or complain about that
31:22 and really, I have no need to complain whatsoever.
31:25 You know, and really,
31:27 just need to see what God is doing through them,
31:29 it's just phenomenal and they seem
31:31 so excited about it.
31:32 You know, it is need to because they're so resourceful.
31:36 And, you know, Rodney and Brad
31:37 and I were looking at some of the stuff
31:39 that they've built.
31:40 I didn't get a chance to go in the carpenter shop
31:42 and I think they have a little machine shop.
31:43 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
31:44 And I hear it's amazing, but they do so much.
31:46 I mean, their engineer, like the jib
31:47 which is the camera with the really long arm
31:51 and it has a camera on the end.
31:52 They built their jib,
31:53 I think, basically out of metal pieces
31:55 that they manufactured
31:56 and they bought a couple of pieces.
31:58 They have built the track too for the camera.
31:59 Didn't it going back and forth?
32:00 Well, the legs that go for the track, yeah.
32:02 And they also like
32:04 some of the lighting fixtures and things.
32:05 I mean, yeah, it's all built in their machine shop.
32:08 I mean, it's phenomenal.
32:09 We're looking at this like, "Whoa, this is nice."
32:11 You take some pictures, we'll bring back home.
32:14 And, yeah, it's just, I don't know, encouraging.
32:17 It was a dream come true to go to 3ABN Russian facility
32:22 and to see what God has done it.
32:24 Like everyone is saying,
32:27 pictures don't do justice
32:29 to what God has done there and it was need too.
32:31 We did some stuff
32:33 we probably weren't supposed too,
32:34 but we climbed up on the roof.
32:35 You did too Mr. Shelton. Any questions, say that.
32:37 I led the way.
32:38 You know, I'm still glad I didn't see that.
32:41 All the way through the sixth roof...
32:42 I was at the bad end,
32:44 once we climbed on to the outside.
32:45 That old rusty ladder
32:46 that was there when we first started.
32:48 Oh, rusty, it was rusty.
32:49 Oh yeah, that ladder was there. You there too?
32:54 Great. Were you around, Jill?
32:55 Look over there, in that corner there.
32:57 Tim did it too? Yeah.
32:59 Look up here. It was raining too.
33:01 Yeah, it was raining too. Yeah.
33:03 So there was footage of that
33:04 which you're probably seeing right now.
33:05 Well, their excuse
33:07 was they were videoing us going up.
33:09 We all ended up on top. That's a long way up.
33:12 I'd say less than two.
33:14 You said what 25 years ago or somewhere back then,
33:15 you on the very peak of that?
33:17 Yes.
33:18 Maybe I should just stop right there,
33:20 but I...
33:21 Well, we're laid on that very peak
33:22 which is the highest point of that building.
33:24 We would have tried it again,
33:26 except it was wet
33:27 and we had to get across that aluminum
33:29 that was on top that we could have slipped,
33:31 'cause it's several storey's down,
33:33 you wouldn't want to do that.
33:34 But there was still one point we didn't conquer.
33:36 So we liked to get all the way to the peak
33:39 and it's a long...
33:40 It's six storey's plus this, you know, top.
33:43 But it's just such an incredible facility.
33:46 But, you know, there's great facilities
33:48 all around the world.
33:49 If you go to Moscow,
33:50 there are facilities that will put us to shame
33:52 as far as our construct,
33:54 architecture and money and all of that.
33:58 But the difference is, is what's come out,
34:00 what comes out of this.
34:02 That's right.
34:03 From this center,
34:05 programs are being produced that go to satellite,
34:08 all across the X-Soviet Union.
34:11 And literally it can be seen anywhere around the world,
34:14 about something like
34:15 150 to 200 million Russians
34:18 can now watch programming in their own language.
34:22 And so because of that, their center there,
34:25 we've seen thousands of Baptisms...
34:27 Yes. Amen.
34:29 And literally, they will be some...
34:32 There used to, when I'd go over there,
34:33 they'd show me,
34:35 they would have over a thousand Bible studies
34:36 going at a time
34:37 and just a lot of volunteers giving those...
34:39 In that facility?
34:41 In the facility, they have thousands Bible studies,
34:43 they were people writing
34:45 and then trying to back and forth,
34:47 you know, through the mail and snail mail,
34:50 didn't have the internet.
34:51 And so trying to send Bibles,
34:54 trying to keep all of this up
34:56 and then there was no cable stations back then.
34:58 Now there are cable stations, all over these cable stations
35:01 are taking us re-broadcasting 3ABN.
35:05 The rewards, you guys know more than I do,
35:07 but they've got a number to tell us
35:08 about the awards they have.
35:11 Again, I don't want to say competition
35:13 with secular television,
35:15 but they go to these shows in Moscow
35:17 and they've done well, haven't they?
35:18 Yeah, very well.
35:20 Yeah, they had a whole wall of awards.
35:21 And I think...
35:23 I don't think it's necessarily competing with,
35:25 you know, the world.
35:27 But you have to give credence to what you're saying visually.
35:31 You know, and I think that...
35:34 I think for today's society, they're looking for,
35:38 you know, something that's exciting.
35:40 And that just kind of says,
35:42 "Oh, yeah, we're...
35:43 our quality is right there."
35:45 You know, with all the big named
35:47 companies out there, our quality is right there.
35:49 You know, we just have a different message so...
35:52 And there's a lot of people that I don't know.
35:54 I mean, I'm sure that
35:56 there's a way that they would have.
35:57 But, you know, a lot of people
35:59 that who just keep flipping right on past it,
36:01 had it not had the visual appeal
36:03 that it does or, you know, the sound quality.
36:06 If it was bad,
36:07 people aren't going to watch it,
36:09 you know, unless there's other circumstances.
36:12 But, you know, for the most part,
36:14 people are going to stop and watch something
36:16 that's not interesting, you know.
36:18 And that's how they get it on
36:19 so many cable stations being Christian,
36:22 because they're still not really popular
36:24 throughout the X-Soviet Union Christianity.
36:27 But they put them on
36:28 because their quality is so good
36:30 and they get such great responses.
36:33 The television stations, let Julia and the crew know,
36:38 we get tremendous responses.
36:39 Some of those, Julia has programmed
36:42 the "Face to Face"
36:43 was the most popular for a long time,
36:45 maybe it still is,
36:47 throughout all of Nizhny Novgorod,
36:48 most popular program,
36:50 where she just interviewed people,
36:51 talked about the Lord.
36:52 And I mean, the cable companies told.
36:55 Secular cable companies told her that, you know.
36:58 And so people literally, all across the X-Soviet Union.
37:01 And again, it's thanks to you for what you do.
37:04 Without you, none of this would have happened.
37:07 And as I said, the building is great
37:09 and that's wonderful but there are great buildings,
37:10 there's bigger buildings there,
37:12 but it's what's happening within the building.
37:15 They have a...
37:16 That conference has a second floor,
37:17 they're working with.
37:19 The seminary students come there,
37:22 so you have area and people live there.
37:25 That is like, I don't know, we couldn't...
37:27 we didn't go into all of them,
37:28 but there's dozens and dozens and dozens of apartments
37:31 where people stay with their families.
37:33 You can go out there and still see
37:34 and always clothes hanging
37:36 on the line and all kinds of stuff.
37:38 They have a bookstore there. They have a health food store.
37:42 They've got a school, with 100 and some odd students.
37:45 That was fun to visit the school, wasn't it?
37:48 Saying, Jesus loves me with my kids, that was fun.
37:50 Yeah. Yeah.
37:51 All of that in this one facility.
37:54 And so...
37:56 But the vision that they have,
37:58 once they accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior,
38:01 they want to share that with those around them.
38:03 They didn't take the gospel for granted.
38:07 When people...
38:08 The Carter meetings were over, they never had a Bible.
38:11 When we handed them out, we have video of these folks,
38:15 literally grabbing the Bibles.
38:16 Some of them would lay prostate right on the ground,
38:21 some on the concrete,
38:22 some would just hold them to their chest,
38:24 others would go in the grass.
38:25 They didn't leave the Sports Center,
38:27 they were started reading right then,
38:29 tears would be flowing because all of their lives,
38:33 they nor their parents,
38:34 even their grandparents
38:36 had ever been able to own a Bible
38:38 and now they had their own in their own Russian language.
38:41 And so it's just Julia, all of you, the whole crew.
38:46 Thank you so much for what you do
38:49 for the cause of God.
38:50 We couldn't do it from here.
38:52 The other thing
38:53 that we need to acknowledge was,
38:54 when we got off the plane, Julia told us now.
38:59 "Don't worry about Angela,
39:00 she's just here on the side
39:02 and she's just going to be taking pictures
39:04 and don't worry about that."
39:06 And at the end of the trip,
39:09 to me this was one of the most touching things.
39:13 Angela gave us, all of us an individual,
39:17 a customized album.
39:19 Jill, you brought yours, tell them that.
39:21 I did, I brought mine, but...
39:23 It is beautiful.
39:24 They stayed up, I think five of them,
39:25 stayed up through the night, the night before we left.
39:29 Night, all night. Making this for each one of us.
39:33 It's an incredible photo album.
39:34 So what it is, this is customized.
39:36 And so this one has pictures of everyone,
39:39 but specifically has pictures of Greg and I,
39:41 and then you have pictures of you both.
39:44 And then Tim, yours has pictures of you
39:46 and Brad and Rodney and Reggie and Ladye
39:48 and Gene and Pat McClintock were there.
39:51 But just to think the labor of love,
39:53 to stay up all night in order to give us something.
39:58 This is one of the best gifts.
40:00 Me too.
40:02 Hands down,
40:03 I have ever received in my life, you know.
40:05 And I think the care or the dedication,
40:08 the passion for service for God
40:11 comes through in everything they do.
40:12 I was thinking when we went around
40:14 to the different offices and got to meet the workers
40:18 and share just a little bit with them.
40:21 And Olga, she's there in the call center
40:23 and she showed us.
40:25 Now these are the letters I sent out
40:26 and these are the people
40:28 who write and we're sending out,
40:30 you know, all this material.
40:32 You know, to spread the gospel.
40:34 They started, and this was exciting.
40:36 I know Julia has been behind this
40:38 with several other people.
40:39 They're doing...
40:41 You know, here at 3ABN we do Kids' Club Bible lessons
40:44 with Brenda Walsh in Kids Time.
40:46 And its Bible lessons specifically for children.
40:49 Well, they have taken them and translated them
40:52 and tweak them a bit to fit the Russian culture.
40:55 And they have 500 kids enrolled in that program right now
41:00 and that's just the last two months,
41:03 two, three months they began it.
41:05 So it's a brand new and they were showing us.
41:07 Oh, these are the puzzle pieces that they get.
41:09 Oh, this is the lessons that we send out.
41:11 And you think as we went from office to office,
41:14 each person just...
41:15 Now this is what I'm doing, I'm creating this opener.
41:18 I'm producing this program
41:19 and I'm bringing in these guests.
41:21 And just the passion for spreading the gospel,
41:25 you know, and the organization of the team.
41:27 But this gift, back to this, this gift was incredible.
41:31 It really was.
41:32 To me it was...
41:34 For me also it was one of the nicest presents
41:36 I'd ever received
41:37 because of the love that went into it.
41:40 You know, I mean, it just...
41:41 It was so personalized. Yeah.
41:43 And so it was just such an amazing blessing.
41:47 I've talked to a lot and they feel like
41:49 they're just returning while you say,
41:51 well, we didn't do too much for hospitality.
41:54 They tell us, we're returning
41:56 for what you Americans came over here
41:58 and the rest of the world as they gave,
42:00 what you did for us and to introducing us to Jesus.
42:04 Gene and Pat McClintock, they were never paid.
42:08 Yet, they have made, they've 20 some trips.
42:10 Gene has held, probably a dozen,
42:13 maybe more evangelistic series of his own,
42:16 would go over there because he works,
42:18 he was working there in the summer time,
42:20 he does insulation and all.
42:21 In the winter,
42:23 when it's brutally cold in Russia,
42:24 they would go in the winter and spend two or three months
42:27 holding evangelistic series,
42:29 getting to know people individually
42:32 and leading them to Jesus.
42:34 And this time Gene was there, they're still people,
42:37 he had to go visit some church,
42:38 he got to go visit some churches.
42:40 They actually raised the money through 3ABN new,
42:43 there's churches there,
42:45 now new churches or other churches,
42:47 even home churches that we, house,
42:49 that we built church in,
42:51 that, because of their work
42:53 and they cared enough about people.
42:55 But when I go there and I see people
42:57 like Alexander, Alexander.
42:59 She was, she was in the back.
43:01 When I went there, literally in 1992,
43:04 and then we purchased a facility,
43:06 a month or two later, I went back and there were,
43:10 they didn't have extension ladder,
43:11 so you're looking at tool...
43:13 Well, at the top of the studio
43:15 was a good two storey's high and more
43:18 and they were eight volunteers on top of the roof
43:22 and they made ladders
43:23 out of saplings and roped them together.
43:26 Oh, my goodness.
43:27 And I went up there and these ladders
43:29 would do this,
43:30 probably 25, 30 feet in the air and Alexander was one of those.
43:34 And Vera who is now passed along,
43:36 they were volunteering,
43:37 they were already Adventist
43:38 who were so happy that all these baptisms that...
43:42 Now there was going to be a facility
43:44 that would be their own for the church,
43:46 from the church that they could come to.
43:49 They were volunteering.
43:50 These women, they weren't young,
43:52 even then, were climbing up
43:55 and up their hand chiseling holes
43:57 'cause they needed some holes in a roof,
43:59 hand working day after day.
44:01 And when you see that dedication,
44:03 they literally, church members would line up.
44:05 I think we have video of that,
44:07 50, 60, 100 at a time and hand one brick at a time.
44:11 And yet, there's millions of bricks in there.
44:13 When I say millions, I'm not exaggerating
44:16 because each of the walls
44:17 that you see is not just a row here
44:19 and a row there,
44:20 sometimes there's two or three rows
44:21 in between all the way up.
44:23 So these walls are this thick.
44:25 And so there's literally millions of brick
44:28 and we didn't have the equipment to do it.
44:30 They start out, and would hand these bricks.
44:32 So they're working together, all of us, one brick at a time.
44:36 You hand it and we hand to them,
44:38 they hand us, we're doing it,
44:40 we, us together working together.
44:43 Not only the facility
44:44 but what the facility represents is that,
44:47 and I wish the Russia Christian Cultural Center there.
44:53 3ABN center could be an example to the rest of the world.
44:57 I wish we work together.
44:59 You got church, you got laity, you got the schools,
45:01 you got the, you know, the centers,
45:03 you got the conference, you got literally the studios.
45:05 Everybody working together
45:07 and believe it or not they get along.
45:09 Isn't that amazing?
45:10 Believe it or not they get along.
45:12 And, but that's God
45:14 because they see
45:16 and to the folk who didn't get to worship God,
45:20 now appreciate so much
45:22 that they have the freedom to do it.
45:24 They're going to make sure everybody
45:26 that they can contact in the world
45:29 has the opportunity to meet Jesus Christ
45:31 and accept Him as Lord and Savior of their life.
45:35 Now, the transition of time,
45:38 sometimes eight or nine hour's difference,
45:41 gets you so, we didn't get to sleep all night.
45:43 But my little room, they put...
45:45 When we started I said keep one room
45:47 so the Americans, when we come, Pat and Gene, John, and Janice,
45:51 whoever's there, they could stay in,
45:53 Elder Carter if we needed too,
45:55 but that's right next door the gymnasium.
45:57 So when it was late at night, I couldn't sleep,
46:00 I got to go over but...
46:02 She came over with a little bit,
46:04 with iPhone and took some video.
46:06 We got Gene up there, he was playing basketball,
46:09 even got her playing basket ball up there.
46:12 I didn't know she's that good.
46:14 I didn't know she's that good,
46:15 but I, she stayed in the women's...
46:16 No, that's being very kind.
46:18 You can try for the women's NBA team.
46:20 Oh!
46:22 No, I just said you could try out.
46:23 Oh, you know, what? That was a good...
46:26 That was a good choice of words.
46:27 But I'm trying to make a point that,
46:28 that we all were out there playing late at night.
46:32 And sometimes our timings off...
46:35 You know, Danny,
46:36 I don't want to miss this opportunity.
46:39 The...
46:40 As the viewers, as they're watching this,
46:42 you're hearing our excitement
46:43 and all of what we've captured while we were there.
46:46 But I think this is a huge opportunity for us
46:49 to understand that God gives these...
46:53 He gave you the vision.
46:56 And there was no way that you could have imagined
46:59 how huge it could have, this was going to turn out.
47:03 But the Bible says that,
47:05 "with men, these things are impossible
47:08 but with God, nothing is impossible."
47:09 That's right.
47:11 And so I think that as much as we've heard that there,
47:14 we are born with a God shaped hole
47:17 in our hearts where,
47:18 you know, only God will fill that.
47:19 I believe that God gives us a God shaped vision.
47:23 Each one of us have something,
47:26 you know, it doesn't have to be
47:28 as grand as Russian vision like this,
47:31 but it could be something that you can
47:33 even actually speak the language, you know.
47:35 But I believe that we need to pray
47:38 for that opportunity that God is,
47:42 just... I know my take away.
47:43 What I came home with was the fact that
47:46 I was guilty,
47:47 have been guilty the past few years
47:49 of letting my God be too small
47:53 and there's a great chorus that says,
47:57 "I have made you too small in my eyes,
47:58 so Lord forgive me.
48:00 Where I have believed in a lie
48:01 that you were unable to help me,
48:04 but now I see the error of my ways."
48:07 And then the chorus says,
48:09 "Be magnified, oh Lord, you are highly exalted."
48:12 So I want that to be my prayer, be magnified God.
48:15 And don't let me be afraid to step out in faith
48:19 because without faith it is impossible.
48:21 So, and so I just...
48:24 I want us to capture that element.
48:26 You know, it's not an...
48:28 It doesn't have a big picture of you
48:29 on the front of it, on the building,
48:31 you know, does it over there in Russia,
48:33 but it is truly because you followed God.
48:36 I mean, again I want to build a tiny house
48:40 with somebody that, you know, can speak English.
48:42 I can't imagine going over to some place that,
48:44 where I couldn't even speak the language.
48:46 And then as we're talking about the equipment
48:49 that they use to do the programming,
48:51 the tools that they used to build a building,
48:53 every odd was against you.
48:55 I mean, the odds were insurmountable,
48:58 but not with God.
49:00 And that's the God we serve.
49:01 He's the one who gives you that vision and it's...
49:05 He's able to do it.
49:06 He's just looking for somebody
49:08 who's willing to follow through with it.
49:09 So be encouraged and dream big
49:12 and don't let any anybody tell you
49:15 that it's impossible,
49:16 because with God nothing is impossible.
49:18 And if I could encourage folk, is,
49:21 because you don't have to see the end of the vision.
49:25 When you look at the end of the vision,
49:26 it will tell you don't do it.
49:28 If I could have, would have known
49:30 how much money it really was going to take
49:33 and how much time and how many years to do that,
49:36 I would have been discouraged.
49:38 But all I knew at the time, there was the building,
49:41 it opened up 150,000 and then as we said,
49:44 millions of brick, one at a time.
49:46 And so volunteers began to show up.
49:49 The Lord brought the right people
49:51 at the right time.
49:52 So I didn't really know where it was going,
49:54 but I knew that's what God said to do at that time
49:58 and same way with 3ABN in general.
50:00 If I hadn't known the responsibility
50:02 and all that would be involved,
50:04 I'm sure I would have been discouraged
50:05 and said that's impossible.
50:07 So when you have a vision...
50:08 Tim's talking about a vision,
50:10 you just take one step at a time,
50:11 the blessing of the Lord is on the go.
50:14 And so when he says, "Go, ye into all the world,"
50:16 You don't have to jump around the whole world
50:18 or fly the whole world at once,
50:20 just take a step, just take a step
50:22 and He'll lead you, He'll guide you,
50:24 He'll let you know if that's what you're supposed to do.
50:26 He will send people in your life
50:29 that will do what you couldn't do.
50:31 God surrounded us with people
50:33 there in Russia
50:35 that could do what I couldn't do.
50:36 As soon as I met Julia, I knew I could trust her.
50:39 And 25 years later, I trust her with my life.
50:43 And speaking that, before we close
50:45 we got to say hello to Julia's mother.
50:47 Yes! Yes!
50:48 And so, I mean, this is Yvonne Itchka.
50:51 Is that how you say?
50:52 That's my new nickname, Yvonne Itchka.
50:54 Yvonne Itchka.
50:55 She was... She was so precious.
50:57 She was just, I just loved meeting her.
51:00 Oh, she was just precious.
51:02 When you meet Julia's mother, she's an M.D. wonderful woman.
51:05 You see where Julia and her son Boris,
51:08 you know, really got that drive to want to be successful,
51:13 to want to do the best they could do,
51:15 whatever they were doing put all their might into it.
51:19 And so, it's so neat,
51:21 we got to go meet her
51:22 and she came downstairs and talked to us
51:24 and we got to hug
51:25 and so she called her Yvonne Itchka,
51:27 which Julia says that's a great compliment.
51:29 That was so precious. And for her.
51:31 But...
51:32 Go ahead.
51:34 I just also think that the team there
51:37 with Julia and Alexi,
51:40 you know, they just really make such a huge difference,
51:44 because they work as a family like we do.
51:46 That's right.
51:48 And then with the viewers responding to the need...
51:52 I mean, we couldn't do it
51:53 if the viewers hadn't responded to the need.
51:55 So it's such a cooperative effort.
51:58 You know, and I was just thrilled to be there
52:00 and thankful for our Russian family.
52:03 Absolutely.
52:05 We're gonna have to take a short news break
52:06 and then we'll come back.
52:08 We'll have about a minute
52:09 or so, we'll let you be thinking about it,
52:11 anybody has a closing thought.
52:12 So we're gonna go on the news break,
52:14 we'll be back in just a moment.


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