I want to spend my life 00:00:01.46\00:00:07.44 Mending broken people 00:00:07.47\00:00:12.37 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.41\00:00:18.71 Removing pain 00:00:18.75\00:00:23.62 Lord, let my word 00:00:23.65\00:00:29.89 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.92\00:00:34.40 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.43\00:00:40.14 Mending broken people 00:00:40.17\00:00:45.67 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.71\00:00:51.18 Mending broken people 00:00:51.21\00:00:55.42 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 00:01:08.06\00:01:10.03 Thank you for joining us as you do each and every day. 00:01:10.07\00:01:13.00 And as always thank you for your love, 00:01:13.03\00:01:14.87 and your prayers, and financial support of 3ABN. 00:01:14.90\00:01:18.91 I'm co-hosted today with dear sweet Yvonne, 00:01:18.94\00:01:22.58 and this is a wonderful woman who loves Jesus. 00:01:22.61\00:01:25.41 Oh! Praise the Lord. 00:01:25.45\00:01:26.78 And always has something to say when it comes time to testify 00:01:26.82\00:01:30.85 and I love that about you. 00:01:30.89\00:01:32.22 Praise the Lord. Thank you. 00:01:32.25\00:01:33.59 You give God honor, and glory, and praise. 00:01:33.62\00:01:35.26 Oh, He is worthy to be praised. 00:01:35.29\00:01:36.73 He's done great things in your life. 00:01:36.76\00:01:38.09 He has, He has for everyone. Yeah. 00:01:38.13\00:01:41.03 He's such a great God, 00:01:41.06\00:01:42.40 He does great things for everyone. 00:01:42.43\00:01:44.93 Well, our guest today, 00:01:44.97\00:01:46.30 and I hesitate to use the word guest 00:01:46.33\00:01:48.10 because we've been friends and coworkers 00:01:48.14\00:01:50.84 for 20 some odd years. 00:01:50.87\00:01:52.51 Wow! 00:01:52.54\00:01:53.88 But usually folks don't see him because he's behind the camera. 00:01:53.91\00:01:57.78 But we have convinced... 00:01:57.81\00:01:59.41 No, the Holy Spirit's convinced him 00:01:59.45\00:02:01.22 to come in front of the camera 00:02:01.25\00:02:03.08 'cause I couldn't do it all these years. 00:02:03.12\00:02:05.09 So I know it's the Lord. 00:02:05.12\00:02:06.76 And so I'd like to introduce for those who may not know, 00:02:06.79\00:02:10.36 many of you will, Bobby Davis. 00:02:10.39\00:02:12.19 Bob, it's good to have you here today. 00:02:12.23\00:02:13.56 Thank you, Danny. 00:02:13.60\00:02:14.93 And cowboy hat and all, I really, really like that. 00:02:14.96\00:02:17.77 It's kind of a new thing that he's been doing. 00:02:17.80\00:02:20.27 I think I'm partially responsible for that. 00:02:20.30\00:02:22.27 And he's got boots they may get a pretty soon... 00:02:22.30\00:02:25.34 Okay, there you go, 00:02:25.37\00:02:26.71 got some cowboy boots up there too. 00:02:26.74\00:02:28.08 All right. All right. 00:02:28.11\00:02:29.44 And so, you know, he coming from the East Coast 00:02:29.48\00:02:33.25 to Southern Illinois we're kind of 00:02:33.28\00:02:35.25 a little bit of cowboy country here, 00:02:35.28\00:02:37.05 we have horses so... 00:02:37.09\00:02:38.65 I think he looks good in it, don't you? 00:02:38.69\00:02:40.26 I like it. 00:02:40.29\00:02:41.62 And you feel comfortable, right? 00:02:41.66\00:02:42.99 Thank you. I do. Yeah, good. 00:02:43.02\00:02:44.43 It took a little getting used to in the beginning, 00:02:44.46\00:02:46.29 but I love it now. 00:02:46.33\00:02:47.70 Well, Bobby, we tell the folk at home that 00:02:47.73\00:02:50.10 the blessing of God is on the go. 00:02:50.13\00:02:51.50 Amen. 00:02:51.53\00:02:52.87 And I found out a long time ago. 00:02:52.90\00:02:55.57 And I feel blessed for this that my goal was to say 00:02:55.60\00:03:00.41 I wanna be a blessing, 00:03:00.44\00:03:01.98 Yvonne, to those I come in contact with. 00:03:02.01\00:03:04.81 So when I get a chance, I wanna give my testimony 00:03:04.85\00:03:07.88 of what God has done for me. 00:03:07.92\00:03:09.88 And maybe in my childlike faith in growing up, 00:03:09.92\00:03:13.42 I somehow thought that my testimony would help 00:03:13.46\00:03:17.63 be the salvation of someone else. 00:03:17.66\00:03:19.86 Well, in a sense that is, but I really found out 00:03:19.89\00:03:23.13 that we can't do anything. 00:03:23.16\00:03:25.30 It's the Holy Spirit that really does it. 00:03:25.33\00:03:27.54 But the reason... 00:03:27.57\00:03:28.90 So then I said, "Well, why does God tell us 00:03:28.94\00:03:30.97 to go ye into all the world?" 00:03:31.01\00:03:32.44 Well, that's for my own salvation 00:03:32.47\00:03:34.74 and your salvation because if we only think about me, 00:03:34.78\00:03:38.11 myself, and I 00:03:38.15\00:03:39.48 then how we're gonna love people around us. 00:03:39.51\00:03:41.32 So Jesus knows when He says, "Go share your testimony," 00:03:41.35\00:03:44.79 that you get to know people, and when you get to know people 00:03:44.82\00:03:47.92 you begin to love people like Jesus did, 00:03:47.96\00:03:50.26 then you become a conduit where the Lord actually 00:03:50.29\00:03:53.03 can work through us to be a blessing to someone else. 00:03:53.06\00:03:56.33 So indeed, we can help, but it's the Holy Spirit 00:03:56.36\00:03:59.50 that really does the work of salvation. 00:03:59.53\00:04:02.10 You agree with that? Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:04:02.14\00:04:04.37 Well, today we have Bobby Davis. 00:04:04.41\00:04:06.71 And, Bobby, you grew up, you're born in the States, 00:04:06.74\00:04:10.15 but your folks are missionaries where? 00:04:10.18\00:04:12.11 In Brazil. 00:04:12.15\00:04:13.48 For how many years? 00:04:13.52\00:04:14.85 The northeastern part of Brazil, 00:04:14.88\00:04:16.22 we were there for about 15.5 years. 00:04:16.25\00:04:18.99 Okay, 15.5 years then you came back to the States. 00:04:19.02\00:04:22.29 We did. 00:04:22.32\00:04:23.66 My dad studied briefly at Andrews University 00:04:23.69\00:04:26.76 getting his doctorate in theology. 00:04:26.80\00:04:28.83 And then moved out to Massachusetts. 00:04:28.86\00:04:31.47 And a few years later I followed and lived there, 00:04:31.50\00:04:35.27 finished up college there, and started working there 00:04:35.30\00:04:39.27 for quite a few years. 00:04:39.31\00:04:41.21 Oh, sorry. 00:04:41.24\00:04:42.81 We're gonna have a song in just a minute. 00:04:42.84\00:04:44.61 And go ahead with your thought. Okay. 00:04:44.65\00:04:46.01 I was just gonna ask 00:04:46.05\00:04:48.35 as the son of a missionary or missionaries, 00:04:48.38\00:04:52.75 what was your relationship with Jesus like? 00:04:52.79\00:04:55.82 Well, in the beginning it was very good. 00:04:55.86\00:04:59.93 I was baptized when I believe I was nine and a half. 00:04:59.96\00:05:03.53 And unfortunately along the way I started getting headstrong 00:05:03.57\00:05:08.44 and wanting to do my own thing. 00:05:08.47\00:05:10.34 And during my teenage years and later in my 20s, you know, 00:05:10.37\00:05:13.88 I definitely rebelled, left the church, left the Lord. 00:05:13.91\00:05:18.75 And yet, you know, I asked my father many years later 00:05:18.78\00:05:22.48 when I was re-baptized. 00:05:22.52\00:05:23.85 I said, "Dad, why did you baptize me 00:05:23.89\00:05:26.45 when I was nine and a half? 00:05:26.49\00:05:28.06 Was I too young?" And he said, "No, son." 00:05:28.09\00:05:30.46 He says, "I knew you love the Lord, 00:05:30.49\00:05:32.56 and you love Jesus, and I wanted to honor 00:05:32.59\00:05:34.90 that request to be baptized to follow Jesus." 00:05:34.93\00:05:38.40 So my story is kind of the story of the prodigal son. 00:05:38.43\00:05:41.90 And yet, you know, it's a story of redemption. 00:05:41.94\00:05:45.34 Amen. 00:05:45.37\00:05:46.71 And I'm so grateful, not only for the Lord 00:05:46.74\00:05:49.78 being patient with me, but the Holy Spirit 00:05:49.81\00:05:51.81 that never gave up. 00:05:51.85\00:05:53.35 And still pursues me to this day. 00:05:53.38\00:05:55.85 It's a great story and maybe if there were words 00:05:55.88\00:05:58.89 that could explain it, might be in a song 00:05:58.92\00:06:02.92 called "The love of God". 00:06:02.96\00:06:04.49 Amen. 00:06:04.53\00:06:05.86 Touches me here, the Brady's, you'll love this song. 00:06:05.89\00:06:07.86 Oh, yes. The love of God. 00:06:07.90\00:06:09.73 The love of God is greater far 00:06:23.65\00:06:29.98 Than tongue or pen could ever tell 00:06:30.02\00:06:35.69 It goes beyond the highest star 00:06:35.72\00:06:41.43 And reaches to the lowest hell 00:06:41.46\00:06:47.14 The guilty pair, bowed down with care 00:06:47.17\00:06:53.14 God gave His Son to win 00:06:53.17\00:06:59.95 His erring child He reconciled 00:06:59.98\00:07:05.99 And pardoned from his sin 00:07:06.02\00:07:12.96 Could we with ink the ocean fill 00:07:27.94\00:07:34.78 And were the skies of parchment made 00:07:34.82\00:07:42.12 And every stalk on earth a quill 00:07:42.16\00:07:49.20 And every man 00:07:49.23\00:07:51.90 A scribe by trade 00:07:51.93\00:07:58.34 To write the love 00:07:58.37\00:08:03.98 Of God above 00:08:04.01\00:08:06.92 Would drain the ocean dry 00:08:06.95\00:08:13.52 Nor could the scroll contain the whole 00:08:13.56\00:08:19.26 Though stretched from sky 00:08:19.29\00:08:22.63 To sky 00:08:22.66\00:08:28.37 O love of God 00:08:28.40\00:08:34.24 How rich and pure! 00:08:34.28\00:08:37.01 How measureless and strong! 00:08:37.05\00:08:44.02 It shall forevermore endure 00:08:44.05\00:08:49.99 The saints' and angels' 00:08:50.03\00:08:54.50 Song 00:08:54.53\00:08:58.77 It shall forevermore endure 00:08:58.80\00:09:06.74 The saints' and angels' 00:09:06.78\00:09:11.51 Song 00:09:11.55\00:09:15.82 How wonderful, how marvelous 00:09:15.85\00:09:21.29 This precious love 00:09:21.32\00:09:27.03 Oh God! 00:09:27.06\00:09:28.73 The precious love 00:09:28.76\00:09:32.60 Of God 00:09:32.63\00:09:38.84 Whoo! 00:09:45.31\00:09:47.05 It makes me wanna shout, 00:09:47.08\00:09:48.75 I'm trying to contain myself right now. 00:09:48.78\00:09:50.82 Wasn't that something? Oh! It's so beautiful. 00:09:50.85\00:09:53.79 What a great job by the Brady's too. 00:09:53.82\00:09:55.72 Absolutely beautiful song, Larry Gross' arrangement. 00:09:55.76\00:09:58.56 Our precious Larry. 00:09:58.59\00:10:00.03 That's the story of all of us. 00:10:00.06\00:10:01.40 We have to know that we serve a God of love 00:10:01.43\00:10:04.13 that's an endless love that He's gonna love us regardless. 00:10:04.17\00:10:07.34 Bobby, you told a little bit of your story 00:10:07.37\00:10:09.77 that when you got... 00:10:09.80\00:10:11.17 You're raised as missionaries in a missionary field 00:10:11.21\00:10:14.14 which came back to the States, ended up on the East Coast. 00:10:14.18\00:10:17.45 But as you got near late teens 00:10:17.48\00:10:18.91 and your 20s you began to rebel. 00:10:18.95\00:10:20.95 That's right. 00:10:20.98\00:10:22.32 And so God still loved you 00:10:22.35\00:10:24.49 through all your rebellion, didn't He? 00:10:24.52\00:10:25.85 Amen. But you say that you really... 00:10:25.89\00:10:28.29 I don't know if you quit loving God 00:10:28.32\00:10:29.79 or you just chose not loved yourself more, 00:10:29.82\00:10:32.46 or you just loved the world more 00:10:32.49\00:10:34.23 or if you just took a break. 00:10:34.26\00:10:35.86 I don't know how to explain that, you know, 00:10:35.90\00:10:37.63 in your own mind, and in your own life. 00:10:37.67\00:10:40.80 But what caused that? 00:10:40.84\00:10:42.17 You're raised and you're baptized 00:10:42.20\00:10:43.77 at the young age, and you have wonderful parents, 00:10:43.81\00:10:47.24 and you just wanna go out. 00:10:47.28\00:10:48.64 So you didn't just like say, 00:10:48.68\00:10:50.25 "I think I won't go to church today." 00:10:50.28\00:10:52.11 You started doing substance abuse, right? 00:10:52.15\00:10:54.78 That's right. Tell us about it? 00:10:54.82\00:10:56.22 Actually, I didn't until I was 18. 00:10:56.25\00:10:59.22 One of the things I can tell you about myself 00:10:59.25\00:11:02.66 and later on in life through my teen years 00:11:02.69\00:11:05.96 as I always felt like I didn't quite fit in. 00:11:05.99\00:11:08.36 I felt like I was on the outside 00:11:08.40\00:11:11.00 looking in most of the time. 00:11:11.03\00:11:12.80 I had lots of friends, but I could be in a room 00:11:12.83\00:11:15.57 full of my friends and feel completely alone. 00:11:15.60\00:11:18.51 Like I didn't really fit in and, of course, 00:11:18.54\00:11:21.41 being raised in mission field that was easy to not fit in 00:11:21.44\00:11:24.95 because I didn't. 00:11:24.98\00:11:26.31 I mean, I didn't look like the Brazilians, 00:11:26.35\00:11:28.15 I wasn't Brazilian, 00:11:28.18\00:11:30.59 but it wasn't so bad in the mission field. 00:11:30.62\00:11:32.69 But when I came back I was almost 16, 00:11:32.72\00:11:35.12 I didn't know a single sport that Americans play. 00:11:35.16\00:11:38.19 I didn't know a Chevy from a Ford back in the day 00:11:38.23\00:11:40.10 when you could tell the difference. 00:11:40.13\00:11:41.46 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:41.50\00:11:42.83 I didn't know anybody on TV, nobody on the radio. 00:11:42.86\00:11:44.90 I didn't know any of the popular culture. 00:11:44.93\00:11:47.60 And I felt completely out of place. 00:11:47.64\00:11:49.44 Okay. 00:11:49.47\00:11:50.81 And that just fed all of this. 00:11:50.84\00:11:52.47 And by then I had started drifting away from the Lord. 00:11:52.51\00:11:55.51 And what happened was, 00:11:55.54\00:11:58.61 I went into the dorms in a Christian university, 00:11:58.65\00:12:03.45 you know, in the dorms. 00:12:03.49\00:12:04.95 And, you know, wherever you go you will find people 00:12:04.99\00:12:08.76 that wanna do the same things you do. 00:12:08.79\00:12:10.73 And these people that seem to be having fun, 00:12:10.76\00:12:13.76 the people that seem to have it all 00:12:13.80\00:12:16.30 were the people that were partying. 00:12:16.33\00:12:18.33 And unfortunately that was the crowd that I fell in with. 00:12:18.37\00:12:23.10 Later on, I did go to a public university 00:12:23.14\00:12:28.54 actually a college in Massachusetts. 00:12:28.58\00:12:31.08 I moved back to my parents' house 00:12:31.11\00:12:33.38 and finished up a degree in television production there. 00:12:33.42\00:12:36.75 Okay. 00:12:36.79\00:12:38.42 But along the way again, I found the friends 00:12:38.45\00:12:41.49 I was looking for, they were easy to find. 00:12:41.52\00:12:43.46 And the devil makes it attractive and easy. 00:12:43.49\00:12:45.99 You know, I was having fun. I felt like I fit in. 00:12:46.03\00:12:49.53 In my particular case 00:12:49.56\00:12:51.43 I basically got into drinking so much 00:12:51.47\00:12:54.80 that I became alcoholic. 00:12:54.84\00:12:56.54 And for me alcohol doesn't make me feel better 00:12:56.57\00:12:59.24 than everybody else, it just makes me feel 00:12:59.27\00:13:01.54 equal to everybody else. 00:13:01.58\00:13:03.08 So that was all I was trying to do 00:13:03.11\00:13:04.81 was fit in and be part of what was going on. 00:13:04.85\00:13:08.88 And unfortunately there go my morals, 00:13:08.92\00:13:11.99 there goes my relationship with God. 00:13:12.02\00:13:15.66 It caused problems in my own family, 00:13:15.69\00:13:18.09 and it just made me miserable. 00:13:18.13\00:13:20.36 And the only answer I seemed to have 00:13:20.40\00:13:22.83 that would make me feel better temporarily 00:13:22.86\00:13:24.67 was to continue to drink. 00:13:24.70\00:13:26.47 And although there was some drug usage in my story 00:13:26.50\00:13:29.77 that wasn't a major part of it. 00:13:29.80\00:13:31.41 And I thank God for that because there are some 00:13:31.44\00:13:34.04 wicked drugs out there that is so much harder 00:13:34.08\00:13:36.61 to get off of it and my heart still goes out to people, 00:13:36.64\00:13:40.02 especially in today's day and age 00:13:40.05\00:13:41.85 when so much in the world is so messed up. 00:13:41.88\00:13:45.15 People look for answers, you know, 00:13:45.19\00:13:49.79 in drugs and alcohol and other things 00:13:49.82\00:13:52.36 that supposedly will calm them down 00:13:52.39\00:13:54.53 and keep them just stable when they don't realize 00:13:54.56\00:13:57.67 that it's a trap that it just draws a person 00:13:57.70\00:14:00.14 in more and more and more. 00:14:00.17\00:14:01.50 And that was my case. 00:14:01.54\00:14:02.87 Let's see it took me a while 00:14:05.67\00:14:07.44 to get through college unfortunately. 00:14:07.48\00:14:10.31 Most of it was not because I transferred 00:14:10.35\00:14:12.78 from one university to the other, most of it was 00:14:12.81\00:14:15.22 because I was too busy having fun, so to speak. 00:14:15.25\00:14:18.75 And my grades weren't that good. 00:14:18.79\00:14:20.42 And it took me five and a half years 00:14:20.46\00:14:22.16 to get a four year degree 00:14:22.19\00:14:23.63 so that should tell you something. 00:14:23.66\00:14:25.06 Partying was getting in the way of your education. 00:14:25.09\00:14:28.03 And I'm not quite sure how I graduated but I did. 00:14:28.06\00:14:31.70 And I couldn't find a job in television for a while, 00:14:31.73\00:14:34.50 for a couple of years. 00:14:34.54\00:14:35.97 So while you were doing all this partying, 00:14:36.00\00:14:38.74 that's when the alcoholism was kind of taking route? 00:14:38.77\00:14:41.98 But you were still functioning, 00:14:42.01\00:14:43.98 you were going to classes and doing your work? 00:14:44.01\00:14:47.65 Yes, I was working in the restaurant business 00:14:47.68\00:14:51.32 at the time closing down restaurants. 00:14:51.35\00:14:52.75 And anybody who's ever done that 00:14:52.79\00:14:54.12 knows that most of the crew likes to go drink after hours, 00:14:54.16\00:14:57.56 you know, and that's basically what I was doing. 00:14:57.59\00:14:59.86 Going home trying to sleep real fast and wake up smart 00:14:59.89\00:15:03.06 and, of course, try to go to school and by the end, 00:15:03.10\00:15:05.93 middle of the afternoon I was done with that 00:15:05.97\00:15:08.07 and I was on to other things. 00:15:08.10\00:15:09.97 So sadly, I'm sure I was a disappointment to my parents. 00:15:10.01\00:15:13.78 And they knew I'm sure what was going on in my life. 00:15:13.81\00:15:16.85 Did they talk to you about it? 00:15:16.88\00:15:18.48 No, I'm not quite sure why but, probably 00:15:18.51\00:15:23.59 because they sense that they were powerless 00:15:23.62\00:15:25.49 to do anything about it, you know. 00:15:25.52\00:15:27.19 What happens with alcoholism... 00:15:27.22\00:15:29.26 What I've understood of alcoholism is that 00:15:29.29\00:15:33.23 trying to reason with an alcoholic is very difficult 00:15:33.26\00:15:37.90 and really doesn't work because it's not a logical thing. 00:15:37.93\00:15:41.80 For me it was the solution to all my problems. 00:15:41.84\00:15:45.07 And if it was the answer to my problems 00:15:45.11\00:15:47.18 and you're gonna take the answer to my problems away, 00:15:47.21\00:15:49.58 I'm not even gonna go there, I'm not even gonna consider it. 00:15:49.61\00:15:52.65 And what I've understood of alcoholism is that 00:15:52.68\00:15:55.98 once I become alcoholic or cross that line 00:15:56.02\00:16:00.26 because some people seem to be able to drink for a while 00:16:00.29\00:16:02.72 and don't have a problem. 00:16:02.76\00:16:04.26 Well, for me it was an instant relief 00:16:04.29\00:16:07.23 from everything, from the fears, 00:16:07.26\00:16:09.50 from the frustration, 00:16:09.53\00:16:11.20 from the disillusionment with life that I felt. 00:16:11.23\00:16:15.04 When I took alcohol the very first time, 00:16:15.07\00:16:17.07 it was magic, it was magic. 00:16:17.11\00:16:19.74 And that's the danger of taking that first drink. 00:16:19.77\00:16:22.51 If you've never had a drink, I beg you not to start 00:16:22.54\00:16:25.71 because there's no guarantee that one drink 00:16:25.75\00:16:28.32 is gonna ruin your life. 00:16:28.35\00:16:29.78 And isn't it the same with drugs? 00:16:29.82\00:16:31.49 I've heard the same thing with people who use drugs, 00:16:31.52\00:16:34.19 that first hit that first time, 00:16:34.22\00:16:36.89 it's like it seems to be magical. 00:16:36.93\00:16:40.00 But that's just the illusion of Satan. 00:16:40.03\00:16:43.43 Really is magical, there is nothing physical 00:16:43.47\00:16:45.57 or spiritual, it's demonic. 00:16:45.60\00:16:47.04 It's demonic, right, a supernatural thing. 00:16:47.07\00:16:48.90 So magic is more considered to supernatural thing. 00:16:48.94\00:16:51.21 Now did you start smoking too? 00:16:51.24\00:16:52.97 Did like cigarettes, was that one of 00:16:53.01\00:16:54.64 the first things you did? 00:16:54.68\00:16:56.58 Well, I had my first cigarette and my first drink 00:16:56.61\00:17:00.05 on the same night so. 00:17:00.08\00:17:01.42 Okay, same night. 00:17:01.45\00:17:02.78 Yeah, I did all that for quite a while. 00:17:02.82\00:17:04.62 So you went through this, you graduated, 00:17:04.65\00:17:06.96 you are in trouble spiritually. 00:17:06.99\00:17:09.36 Yes. 00:17:09.39\00:17:10.73 But you chose this was what you wanted. 00:17:10.76\00:17:13.73 But you did get a job in television. 00:17:13.76\00:17:15.43 I did eventually. 00:17:15.46\00:17:16.80 First I moved out because I was causing 00:17:16.83\00:17:18.67 so much chaos at home. 00:17:18.70\00:17:20.04 And that's probably one of the biggest regrets 00:17:20.07\00:17:22.34 that I have in my life 00:17:22.37\00:17:25.17 is how badly I treated the people 00:17:25.21\00:17:28.34 that loved me the most. 00:17:28.38\00:17:30.05 And finally, when I did move out, 00:17:30.08\00:17:31.91 I just moved into the party scene 00:17:31.95\00:17:33.82 and that was that. 00:17:33.85\00:17:36.18 Eventually I did get a job in the television. 00:17:36.22\00:17:38.85 In fact, Moses Primo who's the chief engineer here 00:17:38.89\00:17:42.06 got me my first job in TV. 00:17:42.09\00:17:43.43 Oh! 00:17:43.46\00:17:44.79 He was working at a small television station 00:17:44.83\00:17:46.39 in the Boston market. 00:17:46.43\00:17:47.76 And he called me one day and said, 00:17:47.80\00:17:50.47 "You know, there's an opening here." 00:17:50.50\00:17:51.90 And how did he know you 'cause your parents were... 00:17:51.93\00:17:53.64 Moses is from Brazil. 00:17:53.67\00:17:55.10 From Brazil he had come to the States to study English. 00:17:55.14\00:17:58.51 And he happened to come to the college 00:17:58.54\00:18:00.44 where they were teaching. 00:18:00.48\00:18:02.28 And so, of course, Brazilians and missionaries from Brazil 00:18:02.31\00:18:05.45 are instant friends. 00:18:05.48\00:18:06.85 And Moses is really family to us. 00:18:06.88\00:18:09.18 So he did invite me to apply and I did. 00:18:09.22\00:18:13.62 And what happened was I got into the field 00:18:13.66\00:18:17.03 that I love the most, you know, I had a career counselor 00:18:17.06\00:18:20.90 in college that said, "Do what your heart wants to do 00:18:20.93\00:18:24.27 because if you do something else, 00:18:24.30\00:18:26.27 some other career, 00:18:26.30\00:18:27.97 and you really want to do this over here 00:18:28.00\00:18:29.70 you might be 40, 50 years old and trying to switch careers, 00:18:29.74\00:18:32.57 it's not going to work. 00:18:32.61\00:18:33.94 Do it now, pay your dues, 00:18:33.98\00:18:36.41 you know, just hang around whatever you can do 00:18:36.44\00:18:39.21 to get your foot in the door." 00:18:39.25\00:18:40.58 And that's what happened. 00:18:40.62\00:18:42.02 I became a video editor and eventually 00:18:42.05\00:18:45.09 a program director for that station. 00:18:45.12\00:18:47.26 But they had budget cuts back in the 1991, 00:18:47.29\00:18:52.56 I guess it was. 00:18:52.59\00:18:54.03 And for a whole 13 months, I was unemployed 00:18:54.06\00:18:58.13 and that was a difficult thing. 00:18:58.17\00:18:59.73 Now before that I have to back up a little bit, 00:18:59.77\00:19:02.64 before that I did get sober. 00:19:02.67\00:19:04.87 And part of that was connecting to God, 00:19:04.91\00:19:07.91 in fact, the biggest part of that. 00:19:07.94\00:19:09.44 The only part that matters 00:19:09.48\00:19:11.38 was I had to have a connection with God. 00:19:11.41\00:19:13.45 What led you to get sober? 00:19:13.48\00:19:15.58 Well, despair, absolute despair. 00:19:15.62\00:19:18.29 I just couldn't live one more day that way. 00:19:18.32\00:19:21.06 And I cried out to God for help. 00:19:21.09\00:19:22.52 I said, "God, help me. 00:19:22.56\00:19:23.89 Don't let me die like this." 00:19:23.93\00:19:25.66 And when I did, you know, the answer was there. 00:19:25.69\00:19:28.63 And I found that by connecting in a very simple way to God 00:19:28.66\00:19:33.67 and learning to trust Him. 00:19:33.70\00:19:35.04 And that 13-month period of no job, 00:19:35.07\00:19:37.84 really led me to trust Him in ways 00:19:37.87\00:19:39.87 that I had never trusted before. 00:19:39.91\00:19:41.24 I was about two years sober when I lost my job. 00:19:41.28\00:19:46.05 And for that whole 13 months before I came here, 00:19:46.08\00:19:49.18 it was a struggle, it was a struggle. 00:19:49.22\00:19:51.62 Financially I couldn't figure out 00:19:51.65\00:19:54.22 how in the world am I making it, 00:19:54.26\00:19:55.72 how can I even pay my rent. 00:19:55.76\00:19:58.03 And yet, the Lord kept supplying, kept supplying. 00:19:58.06\00:20:01.20 And I had good friends and mentors 00:20:01.23\00:20:03.57 that would say things like, 00:20:03.60\00:20:05.03 "Well, is that odd, or is that God?" 00:20:05.07\00:20:07.34 Is it odd, or is it God? I like it. 00:20:07.37\00:20:09.34 And I had to admit that was what it was. 00:20:09.37\00:20:12.24 Now see, I had the perfect parents 00:20:12.27\00:20:15.54 to show me the love of God and to show me 00:20:15.58\00:20:17.98 what it's all about to the altruism, 00:20:18.01\00:20:20.82 the service to others, the love of others. 00:20:20.85\00:20:23.25 But I couldn't seem to connect through their faith. 00:20:23.28\00:20:27.22 I had wonderful friends along the way, 00:20:27.26\00:20:30.46 Christian friends, 00:20:30.49\00:20:31.83 but they couldn't make that connection for me. 00:20:31.86\00:20:33.53 I had to hit bottom literally, I had to say, 00:20:33.56\00:20:36.67 "I can't figure this out, I can't figure life out, 00:20:36.70\00:20:39.70 I can't figure my way out of this drinking problem, 00:20:39.73\00:20:42.80 I've got to ask somebody for help." 00:20:42.84\00:20:44.64 And out of desperation which I think is 00:20:44.67\00:20:47.04 what all of us end up having to do in one way or another 00:20:47.08\00:20:49.94 is to cry out to God for help. 00:20:49.98\00:20:51.55 Right. And I said, "God, help me." 00:20:51.58\00:20:54.18 And He did. 00:20:54.22\00:20:55.55 How long had you lived like that, 00:20:55.58\00:20:58.05 like away from God? 00:20:58.09\00:21:00.52 Well, away from God, I'm not sure, 00:21:00.56\00:21:02.22 but I had been drinking for 11 years. 00:21:02.26\00:21:04.59 Wow. 00:21:04.63\00:21:05.96 And that's not a long time 00:21:05.99\00:21:08.63 for alcoholics, but believe me... 00:21:08.66\00:21:10.00 That's a long time. 00:21:10.03\00:21:11.37 It was long enough for me, 00:21:11.40\00:21:12.73 I just couldn't take anymore further. 00:21:12.77\00:21:14.27 And so, anyway as I've gotten sober 00:21:14.30\00:21:16.54 and I had this baby relationship with God. 00:21:16.57\00:21:20.34 And for 13 months that sustained me enough 00:21:20.38\00:21:23.85 to keep me going through that unemployment period. 00:21:23.88\00:21:27.65 And believe me I looked for a job everywhere. 00:21:27.68\00:21:29.55 And then Moses shows up again in the scene 00:21:29.58\00:21:32.42 and apparently he had a conversation with you one day 00:21:32.45\00:21:34.79 and you said, we need some more people here 00:21:34.82\00:21:37.59 3ABN was growing and that was 1992, I believe. 00:21:37.63\00:21:41.80 And he called me up and asked me to send the resume 00:21:41.83\00:21:45.73 and then he called me and said, "Don't bother." 00:21:45.77\00:21:47.27 He says, "I need you out here for an interview." 00:21:47.30\00:21:50.01 Danny says, "I don't need to see his resume. 00:21:50.04\00:21:52.21 If he's any good, get him out here for an interview." 00:21:52.24\00:21:54.24 So I flew out here for an interview 00:21:54.28\00:21:56.41 and honestly I didn't wanna come. 00:21:56.44\00:21:59.15 The Christian television, I had a bad taste in my mouth. 00:21:59.18\00:22:02.58 I had worked in commercial television 00:22:02.62\00:22:04.95 for 10 years or so. 00:22:04.99\00:22:06.65 And I had seen what Christian television was all about, 00:22:06.69\00:22:09.99 what I thought Christian television was all about. 00:22:10.03\00:22:12.59 And without naming names there had been a lot of people 00:22:12.63\00:22:15.53 who had fallen from grace in a very public way 00:22:15.56\00:22:18.50 in Christian television. 00:22:18.53\00:22:20.17 And I just had no use for that. 00:22:20.20\00:22:24.17 And, in fact, I asked Moses, I said, 00:22:24.21\00:22:26.47 "Moses, please tell me that this is different 00:22:26.51\00:22:29.31 from all these other ministries." 00:22:29.34\00:22:31.21 And he says, "Oh, yes, it's different." 00:22:31.25\00:22:33.21 And he went on to say, "You know, 00:22:33.25\00:22:34.58 we've never done a telephone, we've never begged for money, 00:22:34.62\00:22:37.05 the Lord has always supplied our needs here at 3ABN." 00:22:37.09\00:22:40.02 And I remember raising an eyebrow saying, 00:22:40.06\00:22:42.16 "Yeah, well, I don't know how that works." 00:22:42.19\00:22:43.93 Yeah. But I came out here. 00:22:43.96\00:22:45.66 And the very first day when I toured the campus 00:22:45.69\00:22:48.23 and all that, I couldn't believe 00:22:48.26\00:22:50.37 that you actually had a television station out here. 00:22:50.40\00:22:52.63 In fact, you guys had better equipment 00:22:52.67\00:22:54.34 than I was used to back in a commercial station. 00:22:54.37\00:22:57.47 And I saw God's blessing, and I saw the passion, 00:22:57.51\00:23:01.94 and the excitement that the entire team had. 00:23:01.98\00:23:04.85 You know, the fact that they... 00:23:04.88\00:23:07.55 Well, there were teenagers here directing programs 00:23:07.58\00:23:10.55 and I'm like, "How did they learn, how to do that?" 00:23:10.59\00:23:12.75 You know, I went to school 00:23:12.79\00:23:14.12 and I'm not even a good director, 00:23:14.16\00:23:15.49 but these guys were awesome. 00:23:15.52\00:23:17.43 And you had a real studio and a real transmission 00:23:17.46\00:23:21.36 setup for satellite and it just amazed me. 00:23:21.40\00:23:24.70 And I don't know I prayed and I said, 00:23:24.73\00:23:27.94 "God, if this is where you want me to be, 00:23:27.97\00:23:29.57 then you've got to let me know in a big way." 00:23:29.60\00:23:31.44 And He did. 00:23:31.47\00:23:32.81 Actually before I ever got a tour 00:23:32.84\00:23:34.51 I came here on a Friday evening 00:23:34.54\00:23:37.05 and on Sabbath morning I woke up 00:23:37.08\00:23:39.05 and I sat behind Moses' house in a swing. 00:23:39.08\00:23:42.52 And I looked out at everything and I thought 00:23:42.55\00:23:44.55 this is so beautiful. 00:23:44.59\00:23:46.35 And see, I'm used to talking to God. 00:23:46.39\00:23:47.89 Part of my recovery is having a prayer life 00:23:47.92\00:23:51.56 and meditating on God's word. 00:23:51.59\00:23:53.83 And so what I said to Him several times was 00:23:53.86\00:23:57.33 "God, this is really beautiful out here, it's so peaceful." 00:23:57.37\00:24:00.57 And suddenly I had my son 00:24:00.60\00:24:02.74 and I remember crying that morning 00:24:02.77\00:24:04.37 and just shaking my head and I thought, 00:24:04.41\00:24:06.07 "God, you are so funny. 00:24:06.11\00:24:07.51 I can't believe you do this." 00:24:07.54\00:24:09.14 You know, I got a dose of serenity 00:24:09.18\00:24:11.21 what we call serenity that peace with God 00:24:11.25\00:24:14.18 and peace with everyone around me. 00:24:14.22\00:24:16.05 It was so strong that morning, I am sure that 00:24:16.08\00:24:19.45 that was the strongest feeling of serenity 00:24:19.49\00:24:21.79 I've ever felt in my life. 00:24:21.82\00:24:23.56 And that was my unmistakable sign. 00:24:23.59\00:24:26.23 I had to quit all the other things, you know, 00:24:26.26\00:24:29.26 I've gotten sober from alcohol but I still smoked, 00:24:29.30\00:24:31.90 there were a lot of other things wrong in my life. 00:24:31.93\00:24:34.37 And that day everything changed 00:24:34.40\00:24:36.04 because I knew I was supposed to be here. 00:24:36.07\00:24:38.37 And it was a struggle for me. 00:24:38.41\00:24:39.97 At first, I was editing as you remember at night, 00:24:40.01\00:24:43.68 we had another editor in the daytime 00:24:43.71\00:24:45.41 so I got the night shift. 00:24:45.45\00:24:47.05 And it was my job to listen to sermons and cut them down. 00:24:47.08\00:24:51.29 I remember there was one, it was on the nature of Christ, 00:24:51.32\00:24:55.32 and how He was tempted in every way, 00:24:55.36\00:24:57.19 and how He had suffered all the same temptations 00:24:57.23\00:24:59.53 that we have. 00:24:59.56\00:25:00.90 And it was a good sermon, but it was 90 minutes long 00:25:00.93\00:25:04.23 and it had to be cut down to less than an hour. 00:25:04.27\00:25:06.27 And I thought, "How do you do that, 00:25:06.30\00:25:08.10 how do you cut that much out of a sermon and make sense?" 00:25:08.14\00:25:11.17 So I remember editing all of that and then covering 00:25:11.21\00:25:14.14 each one of those, you know, where the cuts were 00:25:14.18\00:25:16.75 with an audience shot. 00:25:16.78\00:25:18.31 And then I thought this thing is not gonna hold together. 00:25:18.35\00:25:22.32 So at the end of the night I rewound that tape. 00:25:22.35\00:25:25.09 And I started playing it watching for those edits, 00:25:25.12\00:25:27.46 making sure they were all right and listening for continuity. 00:25:27.49\00:25:32.26 And that's what changed my life again 00:25:32.29\00:25:34.46 because the Lord spoke to my heart. 00:25:34.50\00:25:37.33 And I ended the thing, I realized at the end 00:25:37.37\00:25:41.30 I hadn't even paid attention to edits anymore, 00:25:41.34\00:25:43.34 I was listening to the message. 00:25:43.37\00:25:45.37 And I said, "God, I can't believe 00:25:45.41\00:25:48.34 you'd be bring me all the way out here. 00:25:48.38\00:25:50.88 To make it my job and back me into a corner like this, 00:25:50.91\00:25:55.25 just to reach my heart." 00:25:55.28\00:25:57.15 And I said, out loud I said, "If you want me that bad, 00:25:57.19\00:25:59.62 you can have me." 00:25:59.65\00:26:01.22 You know. Wonderful. 00:26:01.26\00:26:02.59 And I was re-baptized and in over the years 00:26:02.62\00:26:05.63 my relationship with God has grown, 00:26:05.66\00:26:07.76 it's been a struggle sometimes, another times it's not at all. 00:26:07.80\00:26:09.63 Yeah, we've seen it, we've seen it. 00:26:09.66\00:26:11.93 Especially as far as you've been 00:26:11.97\00:26:13.37 willing to talk about it... 00:26:13.40\00:26:14.74 Sure. 00:26:14.77\00:26:16.10 You know in a more private, 00:26:16.14\00:26:17.47 even private, you're kind of a private. 00:26:17.51\00:26:19.67 I'd look at him more of a private person 00:26:19.71\00:26:21.88 until the right situation. 00:26:21.91\00:26:23.81 Bobby does not want to just insert himself 00:26:23.85\00:26:26.35 in a conversation if you were with a bunch of people. 00:26:26.38\00:26:29.02 If you ask him something, he'll say, 00:26:29.05\00:26:30.75 but a lot of times he sits and listens. 00:26:30.79\00:26:33.79 But I've noticed in the last few years 00:26:33.82\00:26:36.36 a change in you. 00:26:36.39\00:26:37.73 And you found out something very important. 00:26:37.76\00:26:40.10 And I wanna get into that a little bit. 00:26:40.13\00:26:41.46 Sure. 00:26:41.50\00:26:42.83 That help for you was helping others. 00:26:42.86\00:26:46.94 Tell me a little bit? 00:26:46.97\00:26:48.30 First of all, you found out you needed to surround yourself 00:26:48.34\00:26:52.47 around people who had, you know, 00:26:52.51\00:26:55.18 gain victory over some of the things alcohol. 00:26:55.21\00:26:58.45 So you found groups of people to help you 00:26:58.48\00:27:01.68 and then you in turn 00:27:01.72\00:27:03.39 begin to minister disciple others? 00:27:03.42\00:27:05.85 Tell us how that works? Absolutely. 00:27:05.89\00:27:07.22 Well, it's an interesting thing 00:27:07.26\00:27:10.19 that others have observed and put into words. 00:27:10.23\00:27:12.26 I'm not original about this. 00:27:12.29\00:27:14.93 But I believe that our past 00:27:14.96\00:27:17.80 especially the things we struggle with, 00:27:17.83\00:27:19.83 in fact, I'll just say our dark past, 00:27:19.87\00:27:21.90 the darkest moments of our past turn out to be... 00:27:21.94\00:27:25.24 In God's hands they turn out to be 00:27:25.27\00:27:26.71 the most precious things we have. 00:27:26.74\00:27:29.11 The experiences, the struggles, and the trials, 00:27:29.14\00:27:32.25 and the heartache that we have in life, 00:27:32.28\00:27:34.75 if we allow God to change all of that, 00:27:34.78\00:27:37.22 He will change it and make it into the biggest asset we have. 00:27:37.25\00:27:40.12 And I say that because for me the worst thing 00:27:40.16\00:27:43.66 I thought I could ever have is to have alcoholism. 00:27:43.69\00:27:48.03 And the truth is it turns out to be the best thing. 00:27:48.06\00:27:51.17 The people I always struggle to fit in with 00:27:51.20\00:27:53.77 and become friends with now 00:27:53.80\00:27:55.47 are the people that I minister to. 00:27:55.50\00:27:56.84 Okay. 00:27:56.87\00:27:58.21 And I can gain their trust very quickly 00:27:58.24\00:27:59.97 where most people cannot. 00:28:00.01\00:28:01.91 Normal people, so called normal people, 00:28:01.94\00:28:04.05 I mean, we're all normal, 00:28:04.08\00:28:05.41 but people that don't have a drinking problem 00:28:05.45\00:28:08.08 cannot even begin to help somebody 00:28:08.12\00:28:11.39 who has a drinking problem. 00:28:11.42\00:28:12.75 And it's the strangest thing, you know. 00:28:12.79\00:28:15.26 If I had a brain tumor, 00:28:15.29\00:28:18.26 I wouldn't go to a brain surgeon 00:28:18.29\00:28:20.26 that had a brain tumor, 00:28:20.30\00:28:22.13 I would go to one who doesn't have one, right? 00:28:22.16\00:28:24.90 I want one with all his brains to operate on my brain. 00:28:24.93\00:28:27.60 But the sad part is that 00:28:27.64\00:28:29.60 with alcoholism and with other addictions, 00:28:29.64\00:28:32.27 we won't listen to somebody 00:28:32.31\00:28:33.88 unless we know they've been where we are. 00:28:33.91\00:28:36.11 And God in His mercy has given me that mission 00:28:36.14\00:28:38.68 to help other alcoholics, especially other alcoholics. 00:28:38.71\00:28:41.68 That's true. 00:28:41.72\00:28:43.12 In my case, I've never drank, 00:28:43.15\00:28:45.22 I never, to just say I've never drink a beer, 00:28:45.25\00:28:47.62 I never tasted alcohol 00:28:47.66\00:28:49.12 it's just one of those things I never did. 00:28:49.16\00:28:51.23 But I've had a lot of things in my life 00:28:51.26\00:28:53.06 that I've needed help with and had to go to others 00:28:53.09\00:28:56.60 and listen to others to help me. 00:28:56.63\00:28:58.30 But in 1982 when Melody's mother Kay 00:28:58.33\00:29:01.94 was in an automobile accident, 00:29:01.97\00:29:03.67 she was killed in that accident. 00:29:03.71\00:29:05.67 I've been amazed over the years 00:29:05.71\00:29:07.21 how many people have lost a spouse 00:29:07.24\00:29:09.78 that I'm able to talk to. 00:29:09.81\00:29:11.58 And they listen to me 00:29:11.61\00:29:13.18 because they know I've been through it. 00:29:13.21\00:29:15.28 I've actually had people call me and say, 00:29:15.32\00:29:17.09 "Can you talk to me, it's been three months. 00:29:17.12\00:29:20.16 I thought it'd get better, six months better, 00:29:20.19\00:29:22.42 I feel like its worse." 00:29:22.46\00:29:23.79 And I know what they're going through that pain 00:29:23.83\00:29:26.63 so I've been able to help certain things like that. 00:29:26.66\00:29:30.07 You have been through the pain where people are today, 00:29:30.10\00:29:34.10 but it took you getting other people 00:29:34.14\00:29:36.50 to encourage you to be there to support you. 00:29:36.54\00:29:39.47 And there are groups 00:29:39.51\00:29:40.84 and we're not naming the groups necessarily, 00:29:40.88\00:29:43.31 but there are groups 00:29:43.35\00:29:44.68 and especially we encourage people to go to those 00:29:44.71\00:29:46.88 that that know there's a God 00:29:46.92\00:29:48.55 and say this is really your answer out. 00:29:48.58\00:29:51.05 But what it did for you? 00:29:51.09\00:29:53.09 Tell us about the changes in your own life 00:29:53.12\00:29:56.09 when your mission really wasn't for your own life, 00:29:56.12\00:29:59.59 but it was to help others. 00:29:59.63\00:30:01.33 Well, I can give you a good example, 00:30:01.36\00:30:03.13 a recent example. 00:30:03.16\00:30:04.50 And that's part of the reason 00:30:04.53\00:30:05.87 I guess I agreed to do this program. 00:30:05.90\00:30:08.10 Recently, I found out, actually a few months ago 00:30:08.14\00:30:11.64 I found out that I had skin cancer, 00:30:11.67\00:30:13.98 I had melanoma. 00:30:14.01\00:30:15.34 It was a spot on my back 00:30:15.38\00:30:16.71 that had been growing there for quite a few years. 00:30:16.75\00:30:19.38 And I had been concerned about it, 00:30:19.41\00:30:21.65 I had mentioned it to my doctor 00:30:21.68\00:30:23.02 he had removed the small mole there before in the scar tissue 00:30:23.05\00:30:26.42 actually is what began to change and become bigger. 00:30:26.45\00:30:30.99 And he kept checking it 00:30:31.03\00:30:32.36 and didn't think it was a big deal. 00:30:32.39\00:30:34.00 Well, the day finally came when I said, 00:30:34.03\00:30:35.83 "I'm worried about this. 00:30:35.86\00:30:37.23 I need you to do either biopsy this 00:30:37.27\00:30:38.97 or send me off to a dermatologist 00:30:39.00\00:30:40.70 or somebody." 00:30:40.74\00:30:42.07 And so they did and it took a better part of a month 00:30:42.10\00:30:46.34 to even get the results back. 00:30:46.37\00:30:47.74 In fact, sadly the pathologist couldn't figure it out 00:30:47.78\00:30:51.18 and sent it off "To Boston" somewhere. 00:30:51.21\00:30:54.65 And I had another second opinion 00:30:54.68\00:30:57.15 and sure enough it was melanoma. 00:30:57.19\00:30:59.65 Now at first they thought it was in early stages, 00:30:59.69\00:31:03.06 but there had been another spot 00:31:03.09\00:31:04.83 that had developed close to that spot. 00:31:04.86\00:31:07.30 And everybody was concerned 00:31:07.33\00:31:09.50 that it was already metastasizing 00:31:09.53\00:31:11.37 or spreading from one spot to the other on my skin. 00:31:11.40\00:31:14.27 And that usually indicates that it could be system wide. 00:31:14.30\00:31:17.67 So I could have been anywhere 00:31:17.71\00:31:19.44 all the way up through stage four cancer. 00:31:19.47\00:31:21.84 And that concerned me a lot. 00:31:21.88\00:31:24.18 Oh, yeah. 00:31:24.21\00:31:25.55 For years, I've, part of what I do for my recovery 00:31:25.58\00:31:30.85 is to take an inventory of myself from time to time 00:31:30.89\00:31:33.79 to see where I am. 00:31:33.82\00:31:35.16 One of the lists of things 00:31:35.19\00:31:36.52 that I do is inventory my fears. 00:31:36.56\00:31:39.56 Because I know that if I'm afraid 00:31:39.59\00:31:42.40 then my go to answer is the drink. 00:31:42.43\00:31:45.03 So I keep track of my fears, I keep track of my resentments, 00:31:45.07\00:31:48.70 I keep track of anything that I feel guilty or ashamed about. 00:31:48.74\00:31:52.07 And I look at those things 00:31:52.11\00:31:53.44 as part of a routine part of my life 00:31:53.48\00:31:55.94 so that I don't let those things creep up 00:31:55.98\00:31:58.18 and build up inside of me 00:31:58.21\00:31:59.91 because I know those will lead me back to a drink. 00:31:59.95\00:32:02.48 So on my fear list, many, many times 00:32:02.52\00:32:05.02 I have had that list the fear of dying 00:32:05.05\00:32:09.19 and the fear of cancer. 00:32:09.22\00:32:11.36 And now I had both, 00:32:11.39\00:32:12.73 I was facing at least cancer and maybe dying. 00:32:12.76\00:32:15.53 And I'll tell you that really threw me for a loop, 00:32:15.56\00:32:18.20 it tested my faith. 00:32:18.23\00:32:19.93 And sadly I don't know how well I'd stood up to it 00:32:19.97\00:32:22.67 because I remember finding out on a Friday, 00:32:22.70\00:32:26.01 on Sabbath I went to church and by Sabbath afternoon 00:32:26.04\00:32:28.68 I was laying in bed with the covers over my head, 00:32:28.71\00:32:31.45 trying to sleep, trying to forget. 00:32:31.48\00:32:34.25 And I couldn't and I tossed and turned and finally, 00:32:34.28\00:32:37.69 the despair just built up in me and once again, 00:32:37.72\00:32:40.32 I said those three words 00:32:40.36\00:32:41.99 that changed my life when it came to drinking. 00:32:42.02\00:32:45.59 And now I said it again, I said, "God, help me. 00:32:45.63\00:32:48.90 God, help me." 00:32:48.93\00:32:50.30 And I'll tell you, God knows me by name, 00:32:50.33\00:32:53.03 He knows all of us by name. 00:32:53.07\00:32:54.40 Amen. 00:32:54.44\00:32:55.77 And I heard His voice, 00:32:55.80\00:32:57.14 it was undeniable and so distinct, 00:32:57.17\00:33:00.54 I know I would recognize it anywhere. 00:33:00.58\00:33:02.81 I think all of us, most of us, 00:33:02.84\00:33:05.48 hopefully all of us have heard that voice 00:33:05.51\00:33:07.32 but, man, it was so loud in my head. 00:33:07.35\00:33:10.02 It might as well been in that room 00:33:10.05\00:33:11.39 because He said, "Bobby Davis, get up." 00:33:11.42\00:33:14.79 And I just sat bolt upright in bed and I thought, "Wow! 00:33:14.82\00:33:19.46 What was that?" 00:33:19.49\00:33:20.83 And the next words were, 00:33:20.86\00:33:22.53 "It's time to stop dying and time to start living." 00:33:22.56\00:33:26.53 Okay. 00:33:26.57\00:33:27.90 And I was like, "Okay, Lord." 00:33:27.94\00:33:30.64 And I remember sitting on the edge of my bed 00:33:30.67\00:33:33.11 and thinking "What do I do? 00:33:33.14\00:33:35.18 What do I do?" 00:33:35.21\00:33:36.64 And some words came to me of a man 00:33:36.68\00:33:40.72 that wrote about his experience. 00:33:40.75\00:33:42.08 And he said that 00:33:42.12\00:33:43.45 in the beginning of his sobriety 00:33:43.49\00:33:44.82 he felt like depression and fear and self pity 00:33:44.85\00:33:49.82 were just getting the best of him, 00:33:49.86\00:33:51.19 and he felt like he was going to drink. 00:33:51.23\00:33:52.99 And every time he felt that way, 00:33:53.03\00:33:55.06 he would get up and go to a hospital 00:33:55.10\00:33:56.93 and find somebody in the alcoholic ward 00:33:56.97\00:33:59.57 and try to help that person. 00:33:59.60\00:34:01.40 And when he did, he says, 00:34:01.44\00:34:02.94 "I was amazingly lifted up and placed back on my feet." 00:34:02.97\00:34:06.51 He says, "It's designed for living that really works." 00:34:06.54\00:34:08.84 Okay. 00:34:08.88\00:34:10.21 And as soon as that thought went through my mind I thought, 00:34:10.25\00:34:12.65 I need to find somebody to help. 00:34:12.68\00:34:14.72 There are two treatment centers here in Illinois close by, 00:34:14.75\00:34:17.95 neither one of them will allow somebody 00:34:17.99\00:34:19.59 to just walk in off the street to talk to their patients. 00:34:19.62\00:34:22.22 But I knew there was a place down in Paducah, Kentucky 00:34:22.26\00:34:26.09 about an hour away. 00:34:26.13\00:34:28.10 And they had meetings there 00:34:28.13\00:34:30.07 and they allow visitors to come in. 00:34:30.10\00:34:31.97 And so I thought I'll go down there and see 00:34:32.00\00:34:33.44 if I can find somebody to visit with. 00:34:33.47\00:34:35.34 And I don't know anybody in that place, 00:34:35.37\00:34:36.81 but I just walked in. 00:34:36.84\00:34:38.34 And afterwards I'm looking around to see 00:34:38.37\00:34:41.21 if I can find somebody after their meeting ended. 00:34:41.24\00:34:43.85 And they all ran for the door 00:34:43.88\00:34:45.51 and I thought forgot they all want to go out and smoke. 00:34:45.55\00:34:49.05 So I don't smoke and I'm sitting inside going, 00:34:49.08\00:34:52.15 well, I wonder how I can find somebody in here. 00:34:52.19\00:34:55.49 And they had a drinking fountain there 00:34:55.52\00:34:59.13 and I got a drink of water. 00:34:59.16\00:35:00.50 And all of the sudden, 00:35:00.53\00:35:01.86 this young man comes back through the door 00:35:01.90\00:35:04.83 and walks right over to me introduces himself to me 00:35:04.87\00:35:07.20 and asked me if this was my first time there. 00:35:07.24\00:35:10.31 And I said, "No," meaning I had visited there before. 00:35:10.34\00:35:13.78 And he says, "I said this is actually my second time." 00:35:13.81\00:35:16.75 He goes, "Oh, yeah, me too." 00:35:16.78\00:35:18.31 I really messed up the first time. 00:35:18.35\00:35:20.12 And I realized he thinks I'm a patient, but that's okay. 00:35:20.15\00:35:23.75 I didn't correct him, I just let him talk 00:35:23.79\00:35:25.92 and suddenly he's pouring his heart out to me 00:35:25.95\00:35:28.19 about everything that went wrong 00:35:28.22\00:35:30.99 so quickly in his life. 00:35:31.03\00:35:32.46 Once he had gotten the period of sobriety, 00:35:32.49\00:35:34.46 but gone back to drinking. 00:35:34.50\00:35:36.20 And I asked him a few questions, 00:35:36.23\00:35:39.03 you know, and I let him know that I understood 00:35:39.07\00:35:42.74 and finally he realize, "Oh, you're not a patient?" 00:35:42.77\00:35:44.97 I said, "No." 00:35:45.01\00:35:46.41 And that man asked me for help. 00:35:46.44\00:35:49.98 Not that first night, but the next week, 00:35:50.01\00:35:52.78 you know, I have to say, you know, after I talked to him 00:35:52.81\00:35:55.58 for about an hour I was driving home 00:35:55.62\00:35:58.22 and about halfway home I realized, 00:35:58.25\00:35:59.95 you know, I hadn't thought about cancer one single time, 00:35:59.99\00:36:03.43 whole time I was there. 00:36:03.46\00:36:05.36 In helping him or trying to help him, 00:36:05.39\00:36:08.30 I really was helping myself. 00:36:08.33\00:36:09.66 Okay. 00:36:09.70\00:36:11.03 And I remembered that, 00:36:11.07\00:36:12.40 the whole next week went by next Sabbath 00:36:12.43\00:36:14.04 guess what, I was in bed again, 00:36:14.07\00:36:16.00 struggling to get past the depression and the fear. 00:36:16.04\00:36:19.31 And suddenly it was time to go back 00:36:19.34\00:36:21.74 to the treatment center and I did. 00:36:21.78\00:36:23.28 And sure enough he was there and he was so happy to see me. 00:36:23.31\00:36:26.88 And that night he asked me to be his mentor. 00:36:26.92\00:36:30.09 Now he lives in our way 00:36:30.12\00:36:31.49 and normally I don't travel an hour every direction, 00:36:31.52\00:36:34.26 he was in there 00:36:34.29\00:36:35.62 so it's not like he could come up to see me. 00:36:35.66\00:36:37.76 And I started talking to him and I said, "Well, you know, 00:36:37.79\00:36:40.73 you're kind of a long ways away and this that and the other." 00:36:40.76\00:36:44.33 And I saw his face fall 00:36:44.37\00:36:46.43 and all of a sudden I hear that voice, 00:36:46.47\00:36:48.70 that voice, the voice of God, "Bobby Davis, really? 00:36:48.74\00:36:53.31 You asked me for help and I sent you this young man 00:36:53.34\00:36:56.14 and now you're going to tell him no?" 00:36:56.18\00:36:58.78 And I went, "You know what, I'll be happy to help you." 00:36:58.81\00:37:02.25 Amen. 00:37:02.28\00:37:03.62 And we started meeting on Saturday evenings, 00:37:03.65\00:37:06.86 and a little bit later 00:37:06.89\00:37:08.92 I decided to fly out to Massachusetts 00:37:08.96\00:37:11.43 for a second opinion on this cancer. 00:37:11.46\00:37:13.40 The doctors here wanted to do surgery on this. 00:37:13.43\00:37:16.36 And yet they weren't sure of how they wanted to proceed. 00:37:16.40\00:37:19.67 And I ended up at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute 00:37:19.70\00:37:22.24 which is one of the premier cancer institutes 00:37:22.27\00:37:24.24 in the country. 00:37:24.27\00:37:25.71 And at first their diagnosis was the same, 00:37:25.74\00:37:28.71 "We're afraid this is stage four." 00:37:28.74\00:37:30.95 And they ordered PET scans and MRIs 00:37:30.98\00:37:33.35 and all kinds of things, scheduled surgery. 00:37:33.38\00:37:36.58 But here's where I saw God leading me in that direction. 00:37:36.62\00:37:39.42 My parents live there so I could stay with them 00:37:39.45\00:37:41.56 for any kind of treatment. 00:37:41.59\00:37:42.92 But I really didn't know if I had stage four, 00:37:42.96\00:37:45.43 if I was gonna be really going through chemo 00:37:45.46\00:37:49.66 or all those kinds of things. 00:37:49.70\00:37:51.43 So the next day I had an appointment 00:37:51.47\00:37:53.90 with a dermatologist there. 00:37:53.94\00:37:55.90 As I'm sitting with this dermatologist, 00:37:55.94\00:37:57.67 he's asking questions 00:37:57.71\00:37:59.04 and I realize he knows a lot about my case. 00:37:59.07\00:38:01.21 And since I hadn't seen a dermatologist anywhere else 00:38:01.24\00:38:04.71 I said, "How do you know so much about my case?" 00:38:04.75\00:38:06.82 And he says, "Well, I'm the one they sent the biopsies to, 00:38:06.85\00:38:10.75 to find out when they couldn't figure out what it was, 00:38:10.79\00:38:13.42 in southern Illinois they sent up to me." 00:38:13.46\00:38:15.49 And I thought, what are the odds 00:38:15.52\00:38:18.23 that I would have him as my dermatologist, 00:38:18.26\00:38:20.60 he's also a pathologist. 00:38:20.63\00:38:22.36 And he was unbelievable, 00:38:22.40\00:38:25.87 he gave me his personal cell phone number 00:38:25.90\00:38:28.34 and begged me to put him on my team 00:38:28.37\00:38:31.07 so that he could follow through with this whole process. 00:38:31.11\00:38:35.68 I did see a surgeon, 00:38:35.71\00:38:37.48 the PET scan came back with no cancer 00:38:37.51\00:38:41.95 anywhere else in my body. 00:38:41.98\00:38:43.32 Praise the Lord. 00:38:43.35\00:38:44.69 But that fear did not go away for those eight days 00:38:44.72\00:38:47.42 that I had to wait for that PET scan, 00:38:47.46\00:38:48.86 until finally somebody sent me a little meditation by text. 00:38:48.89\00:38:53.29 And it said basically, our life is like a ladder 00:38:53.33\00:38:59.40 that stretches from this world into eternity 00:38:59.43\00:39:02.40 and all we're supposed to do is keep climbing that ladder. 00:39:02.44\00:39:05.94 But sometimes we get afraid 00:39:05.97\00:39:08.51 because we don't see where that ladder is placed. 00:39:08.54\00:39:12.05 And then the question to me to meditate on was, 00:39:12.08\00:39:14.82 "Would God put you on a ladder that was not secure?" 00:39:14.85\00:39:17.69 Okay. 00:39:17.72\00:39:19.35 And if He puts you on that, 00:39:19.39\00:39:20.86 you can climb each step with confidence. 00:39:20.89\00:39:22.66 Okay. 00:39:22.69\00:39:24.03 And know that he'll take care of you. 00:39:24.06\00:39:25.86 And at that point, I broke through that fear, 00:39:25.89\00:39:28.90 and I was so amazed. 00:39:28.93\00:39:31.03 You know, the treatment went well, I had a surgery, 00:39:31.07\00:39:34.90 they checked my lymph nodes, it was not spread. 00:39:34.94\00:39:38.47 It's considered stage two 00:39:38.51\00:39:39.94 because it had already started to go deeper into my skin, 00:39:39.97\00:39:43.04 but it had not gone through my body. 00:39:43.08\00:39:44.75 And I cannot tell you how grateful I am 00:39:44.78\00:39:48.35 for the team that worked with me there. 00:39:48.38\00:39:50.69 For the experience that at first seemed 00:39:50.72\00:39:54.72 so disruptive and threatened in my life, 00:39:54.76\00:39:58.96 turns out now to be one of the biggest blessings 00:39:58.99\00:40:01.26 because what I got out of that experience 00:40:01.30\00:40:04.47 were so many things. 00:40:04.50\00:40:05.83 First of all my father was diagnosed, 00:40:05.87\00:40:07.97 at the same time when I was there. 00:40:08.00\00:40:11.01 And I was able to be there for my mother 00:40:11.04\00:40:12.77 when she found out. 00:40:12.81\00:40:14.14 And to be there with her and my dad 00:40:14.18\00:40:16.48 when she told him what was going on. 00:40:16.51\00:40:19.11 Praise the God, halfway in through his chemotherapy, 00:40:19.15\00:40:21.95 he's doing well, in fact, he's, 00:40:21.98\00:40:23.72 I believe God's hand is over him 00:40:23.75\00:40:25.45 because he is yet to feel one single effect 00:40:25.49\00:40:29.22 from all that chemotherapy. 00:40:29.26\00:40:30.93 He's never been nauseous, never lost his energy, 00:40:30.96\00:40:33.40 he's a professor, he still teaches. 00:40:33.43\00:40:35.10 He's 83.5 years old 00:40:35.13\00:40:36.63 he's still teaching theology to his theology students. 00:40:36.67\00:40:40.00 And that's his passion and life is to tell 00:40:40.04\00:40:42.67 and teach other people about the Lord. 00:40:42.70\00:40:44.67 And so I was there when that happened. 00:40:44.71\00:40:47.48 You know, what kind of timing is that? 00:40:47.51\00:40:50.25 God's perfect timing. 00:40:50.28\00:40:52.01 And honestly, Danny, 00:40:52.05\00:40:53.38 the biggest thing that I've gotten 00:40:53.42\00:40:55.32 from this is an amazing... 00:40:55.35\00:40:57.39 A renewal of my faith, 00:41:00.52\00:41:02.32 but even more than that 00:41:02.36\00:41:03.76 the Lord has just lit a fire inside of me. 00:41:03.79\00:41:05.79 All right. 00:41:05.83\00:41:07.16 And I realized, you know, if I have... 00:41:07.20\00:41:09.46 I mean, before I found out 00:41:09.50\00:41:10.83 that there was no other cancer in my body. 00:41:10.87\00:41:13.30 I finally broke through that fear and I realized, 00:41:13.34\00:41:15.84 you know what? 00:41:15.87\00:41:17.37 I need to get about my father's business. 00:41:17.41\00:41:20.44 I need to do more for the Lord. 00:41:20.48\00:41:22.58 I need to do more for the people 00:41:22.61\00:41:24.51 that suffer with alcoholism. 00:41:24.55\00:41:25.91 I need to do more at work. I need to do more at church. 00:41:25.95\00:41:29.62 I need to do more everywhere in my life. 00:41:29.65\00:41:32.09 And I can't say that I'm too busy, 00:41:32.12\00:41:34.09 you know, we were talking about that earlier 00:41:34.12\00:41:35.82 about being too busy. 00:41:35.86\00:41:37.19 We all have the same 168 hours a week. 00:41:37.23\00:41:40.50 You know, what we spend it on 00:41:40.53\00:41:42.30 and what we focus on is what it's all about. 00:41:42.33\00:41:45.03 And for me that renewal inside of me 00:41:45.07\00:41:47.40 has just lit a fire inside of me. 00:41:47.44\00:41:49.60 And the only reason, I'm sitting here in this chair 00:41:49.64\00:41:52.04 is because I can't keep quiet about it. 00:41:52.07\00:41:54.78 You know, the Lord has given me a mission, you know. 00:41:54.81\00:41:58.28 And now the mission is even widened into other people 00:41:58.31\00:42:02.28 who are dealing with cancer. 00:42:02.32\00:42:04.45 Never in my life did I think I would be able to minister 00:42:04.49\00:42:07.16 and to help them through that. 00:42:07.19\00:42:08.62 But I know because of this hard experience 00:42:08.66\00:42:12.06 on the other side of it. 00:42:12.09\00:42:13.53 And it really didn't matter to me, 00:42:13.56\00:42:14.90 I don't care if I have two weeks, 00:42:14.93\00:42:16.73 two months, two years to live. 00:42:16.77\00:42:18.80 You know, I want to do all I can, 00:42:18.83\00:42:20.84 I wanna pack as much as I can into that, 00:42:20.87\00:42:23.20 I want to do everything I can. 00:42:23.24\00:42:25.57 You know, whatever talent we have and... 00:42:25.61\00:42:27.88 I think of Erma Bombeck's famous quote, 00:42:27.91\00:42:30.35 you know, the comedian from years ago. 00:42:30.38\00:42:32.75 She said, "When I stand before my creator I want to say, 00:42:32.78\00:42:35.65 be able to say to Him, 00:42:35.68\00:42:37.02 I've used every bit of talent you gave me." 00:42:37.05\00:42:40.22 You know, and it's not about me, 00:42:40.26\00:42:42.02 it's about Him. 00:42:42.06\00:42:43.39 And so I don't know, I came back just... 00:42:43.43\00:42:47.06 I don't even had energized I guess 00:42:47.10\00:42:49.33 is what I'm saying and I'm on fire. 00:42:49.36\00:42:50.90 Yeah. 00:42:50.93\00:42:52.27 He was in my office and it was just, I mean, 00:42:52.30\00:42:55.84 passionate we were talking. 00:42:55.87\00:42:58.17 And Bobby is a great writer, he does have a lots... 00:42:58.21\00:43:00.48 He doesn't only do the producing and the editing 00:43:00.51\00:43:03.35 and now his voice is on the 3ABN radio. 00:43:03.38\00:43:06.55 I'm telling you, he wears as many hats 00:43:06.58\00:43:08.38 as anybody in the ministry. 00:43:08.42\00:43:10.52 And he's good at it, he's very good. 00:43:10.55\00:43:12.19 His writing has helped me tremendously over the years. 00:43:12.22\00:43:15.52 Yes, yes. 00:43:15.56\00:43:16.89 I got ideas, but I don't know 00:43:16.93\00:43:18.43 how to put them on paper as well as he does. 00:43:18.46\00:43:20.33 So he's helped me so many times in our newsletters 00:43:20.36\00:43:24.07 and our magazines and all of that, 00:43:24.10\00:43:25.80 that's Bobby really making that polished. 00:43:25.83\00:43:28.24 We can do it, she can do it to polish, 00:43:28.27\00:43:30.67 but I'm not that polished, but Bobby does that for me 00:43:30.71\00:43:34.18 but his writing is great. 00:43:34.21\00:43:35.54 But we were talking about some things 00:43:35.58\00:43:38.05 we were doing here. 00:43:38.08\00:43:39.41 But his passion came out and I said, 00:43:39.45\00:43:41.02 "Bobby, we got to get you on TV." 00:43:41.05\00:43:43.25 But there was almost like an abrupt. 00:43:43.28\00:43:45.09 "Well, wait a minute." 00:43:45.12\00:43:46.45 So far I've been willing to do all this 00:43:46.49\00:43:48.76 and I help people that's, you know, alcoholics 00:43:48.79\00:43:51.16 and now people with cancer. 00:43:51.19\00:43:53.03 But I'm not and he says, 00:43:53.06\00:43:54.56 "I'm not in front of the camera, boss." 00:43:54.60\00:43:56.60 He says, "That's not me." 00:43:56.63\00:43:58.27 And I said, "No, that's where God." 00:43:58.30\00:44:00.24 Now he's opened up more doors with you. 00:44:00.27\00:44:02.97 Yes. 00:44:03.00\00:44:04.34 But what's a testimony without a platform 00:44:04.37\00:44:08.94 and what better platform in our life here than 3ABN? 00:44:08.98\00:44:13.15 Because, Bobby, what you're saying today 00:44:13.18\00:44:15.35 is I can promise you from doing thousands of interviews 00:44:15.38\00:44:18.85 is reaching multitudes of people 00:44:18.89\00:44:21.62 who have fears in their life. 00:44:21.66\00:44:23.76 Maybe it's not just from an alcohol or drugs, 00:44:23.79\00:44:26.96 maybe it's not from having cancer, 00:44:27.00\00:44:29.06 but other fears 00:44:29.10\00:44:30.93 because we all have these fears that come, 00:44:30.97\00:44:33.57 but you're saying that God gave you peace 00:44:33.60\00:44:37.41 in the midst of the storm. 00:44:37.44\00:44:38.91 He didn't take you out of the storm, 00:44:38.94\00:44:41.51 but He's given you peace through not a storm, 00:44:41.54\00:44:44.71 but a series of storm, a number of storms. 00:44:44.75\00:44:47.88 And with that assurance that you have, 00:44:47.92\00:44:51.22 whatever time you have left 00:44:51.25\00:44:52.69 whether it's one year or 10 years or 20 00:44:52.72\00:44:55.02 before the Lord comes, 00:44:55.06\00:44:56.86 you're gonna pack it with all you can 00:44:56.89\00:44:59.06 as well you say Erma Bombeck said 00:44:59.09\00:45:01.43 and you wanna use it in service for the Lord. 00:45:01.46\00:45:05.03 It's a great testimony, isn't it? 00:45:05.07\00:45:06.87 It really is. It really is. 00:45:06.90\00:45:08.30 You know, as I was listening, I was thinking about the plan, 00:45:08.34\00:45:13.48 God always has a plan for us. 00:45:13.51\00:45:15.98 And even in your being in Brazil, 00:45:16.01\00:45:19.71 meeting Moses Primo... 00:45:19.75\00:45:21.88 You know, after you came here. There you go. 00:45:21.92\00:45:23.65 Is that God or is that odd? 00:45:23.69\00:45:25.02 Exactly. 00:45:25.05\00:45:26.39 Is it coincidence or divine provident 00:45:26.42\00:45:28.59 so as you say. 00:45:28.62\00:45:29.96 And so, you know, again God is such an awesome God 00:45:29.99\00:45:34.40 because He knew that you were gonna spiral downward, 00:45:34.43\00:45:38.53 but He took that situation 00:45:38.57\00:45:41.27 and when you gave your heart to Him, 00:45:41.30\00:45:43.30 took that situation 00:45:43.34\00:45:44.97 and made something positive come from you. 00:45:45.01\00:45:47.68 You can help others now 00:45:47.71\00:45:49.48 who are in dire need of that kind of mentorship. 00:45:49.51\00:45:53.52 So it's just to me God is just awesome. 00:45:53.55\00:45:56.62 I wanna go back to his parents for a moment. 00:45:56.65\00:46:00.52 It might sound strange. 00:46:00.56\00:46:01.89 Some of us says, you know, when you ask him the question, 00:46:01.92\00:46:04.66 "Well, how do your parents see?" 00:46:04.69\00:46:06.03 Said, well, they didn't really say too much about it. 00:46:06.06\00:46:08.46 I think one of the things we're most guilty 00:46:08.50\00:46:10.87 about when we're disappointed in our kids is our own pride. 00:46:10.90\00:46:15.94 If you think about it, say your dad is a pastor, 00:46:15.97\00:46:19.37 he teaches theology, 00:46:19.41\00:46:21.24 and then for his son to be everything, 00:46:21.28\00:46:24.45 but what he's teaching and helping young people be. 00:46:24.48\00:46:28.02 Sometimes people is like, 00:46:28.05\00:46:30.15 "Man, that's embarrassing, that's my son." 00:46:30.19\00:46:32.05 So you come home and you're, beating you over the head 00:46:32.09\00:46:35.12 because look what this is doing. 00:46:35.16\00:46:37.23 And but your folks just loved you through it. 00:46:37.26\00:46:38.59 That's right. 00:46:38.63\00:46:39.96 And they said, 00:46:40.00\00:46:41.33 "You know what we're just gonna love him through it. 00:46:41.36\00:46:42.70 We can't beat it out of him, we can't force him to do it." 00:46:42.73\00:46:45.63 So I'm not gonna every night say, 00:46:45.67\00:46:47.50 "Bobby, you gotta stop drinking, 00:46:47.54\00:46:49.07 you shouldn't be doing this, you shouldn't be that." 00:46:49.10\00:46:51.34 But I will guarantee you, I'll almost can guarantee you, 00:46:51.37\00:46:54.68 they're about wore out the carpet off the floors. 00:46:54.71\00:46:56.34 That's what I was gonna say. 00:46:56.38\00:46:57.98 My parents, they knew there was a problem, 00:46:58.01\00:47:02.52 and they prayed for me every day. 00:47:02.55\00:47:04.12 My father and mother 00:47:04.15\00:47:05.49 are some of the most humble people I know. 00:47:05.52\00:47:06.99 In fact, I can honestly tell you I don't know anybody 00:47:07.02\00:47:08.49 that's so humble than my father. 00:47:08.52\00:47:09.86 They let me stay in their home one time, you remember? 00:47:09.89\00:47:11.99 There's, I don't remember that. They do. 00:47:12.03\00:47:13.53 But they're the sweetest people. 00:47:13.56\00:47:15.40 And mom and dad got to the point 00:47:15.43\00:47:18.23 where they realized that I was in so deep 00:47:18.27\00:47:21.07 that it would take everything that God could do for me. 00:47:21.10\00:47:24.04 And they realized that they needed to pray 00:47:24.07\00:47:26.44 for whatever it takes, Lord. 00:47:26.47\00:47:28.64 Do whatever it takes to him, but please spare his life. 00:47:28.68\00:47:31.25 And they told me that one time and I said, 00:47:31.28\00:47:33.55 "When did you start praying that?" 00:47:33.58\00:47:35.38 And when they told me, I realized that point 00:47:35.42\00:47:37.69 was where my life literally fell apart, 00:47:37.72\00:47:40.56 that is one of the bravest prayers 00:47:40.59\00:47:42.19 I think any parent can never pray. 00:47:42.22\00:47:45.49 Before I knew him actually, 00:47:45.53\00:47:47.96 I was speaking out on the East Coast 00:47:48.00\00:47:50.23 and Moses Primo told me, 00:47:50.27\00:47:52.03 we're going there, he said, "I know some folk, 00:47:52.07\00:47:54.37 and they were gone for the weekend, 00:47:54.40\00:47:56.77 but they're gonna leave the key, 00:47:56.81\00:47:58.31 and you just live in their home. 00:47:58.34\00:47:59.77 It's a real nice home." 00:47:59.81\00:48:01.14 Wow! And I'm like, "What?" 00:48:01.18\00:48:02.51 And he says, "Oh, no, you can," I said, 00:48:02.54\00:48:04.41 "I don't feel comfortable." 00:48:04.45\00:48:05.78 He said, "No, trust me. 00:48:05.81\00:48:07.15 These folk are wonderful people." 00:48:07.18\00:48:08.62 And I actually did, I rarely would do something like that, 00:48:08.65\00:48:11.19 but I thought well, how nice are these folks, 00:48:11.22\00:48:13.29 you know, to open up their house to me. 00:48:13.32\00:48:14.66 I didn't hear about it. 00:48:14.69\00:48:16.02 Yeah, and they weren't there so thank you, 00:48:16.06\00:48:18.63 you know, mom and dad, that's wonderful. 00:48:18.66\00:48:20.30 You know, what I believe is 00:48:20.33\00:48:21.66 that God doesn't waste anything. 00:48:21.70\00:48:23.03 Right. 00:48:23.06\00:48:24.40 He won't even waste our tears, our pain, our suffering, 00:48:24.43\00:48:27.00 nothing is wasted. 00:48:27.04\00:48:28.74 He has a way of turning all those things, 00:48:28.77\00:48:31.44 those disappointments, those fears, the sadness, 00:48:31.47\00:48:35.24 the agony that we go through in life, 00:48:35.28\00:48:37.18 whether it's a heartbreak or an illness or whatever 00:48:37.21\00:48:40.55 and He will turn that around. 00:48:40.58\00:48:42.45 That's who He is. 00:48:42.48\00:48:44.29 And nobody else, no other God can do that, 00:48:44.32\00:48:47.39 only the God that we know and that we worship. 00:48:47.42\00:48:49.72 And that gives me great hope 00:48:49.76\00:48:52.76 that even in the midst of all of this 00:48:52.79\00:48:54.63 I know, I know and this was one more confirmation, 00:48:54.66\00:48:58.07 I know that He will turn this around 00:48:58.10\00:48:59.80 and make good out of it. 00:48:59.83\00:49:01.40 And not only has He done that for me, He's done it for well, 00:49:01.44\00:49:05.77 anybody who surrendered their life, you know? 00:49:05.81\00:49:08.78 We all reached that point. 00:49:08.81\00:49:10.25 The next thing that I can see him doing 00:49:10.28\00:49:12.41 and he's gonna reject it at first, 00:49:12.45\00:49:15.32 I can see him up in the pulpit. 00:49:15.35\00:49:17.09 Oh, boy. 00:49:17.12\00:49:18.45 Going to churches, 00:49:18.49\00:49:19.82 giving his testimony what God has done. 00:49:19.85\00:49:21.69 Because I know that's not easy for him 00:49:21.72\00:49:24.66 or at least his comfort spot. 00:49:24.69\00:49:26.09 Now here you can see he's well prepared to do it 00:49:26.13\00:49:28.36 and can do it, 00:49:28.40\00:49:29.73 but it's just fun watching 00:49:29.76\00:49:31.33 where God's taken you in places when you always... 00:49:31.37\00:49:34.70 Bobby prefers to be in the back. 00:49:34.74\00:49:36.71 All of a sudden he's out here. 00:49:36.74\00:49:38.87 But hey, God's open up the doors 00:49:38.91\00:49:40.71 and I have a feeling that you'll be willing to do 00:49:40.74\00:49:43.18 whatever God asked you to do. 00:49:43.21\00:49:45.35 If I'm asked, I'm willing, of course. 00:49:45.38\00:49:47.58 Because I believe that, you know, 00:49:47.62\00:49:49.45 if we don't it will just shrivel up 00:49:49.48\00:49:51.55 and die inside of us. 00:49:51.59\00:49:53.05 It's like good news can't stay inside. 00:49:53.09\00:49:55.46 Right. 00:49:55.49\00:49:56.83 I sometimes say this and, I mean, 00:49:56.86\00:49:58.59 this I don't encourage anybody to play the lottery 00:49:58.63\00:50:02.73 and win billions of dollars. 00:50:02.76\00:50:04.23 But if you ever did, could you keep quiet about it? 00:50:04.27\00:50:07.77 There's no way. Absolutely. 00:50:07.80\00:50:09.14 This is way better news than any of that. 00:50:09.17\00:50:11.17 In fact, winning the lottery is bad news for most people 00:50:11.21\00:50:14.28 because they end up losing it all. 00:50:14.31\00:50:16.04 But the truth is when you are lit up 00:50:16.08\00:50:18.28 from the inside with something to share, 00:50:18.31\00:50:20.95 then there is no way to keep it inside. 00:50:20.98\00:50:22.58 Years ago, I used to ask all my guests 00:50:22.62\00:50:24.69 almost every program, 00:50:24.72\00:50:26.09 Bobby, if you had two minutes to live, 00:50:26.12\00:50:28.29 you could look into this camera 00:50:28.32\00:50:30.33 and talk to a lost and dying world, 00:50:30.36\00:50:32.26 what would you say? 00:50:32.29\00:50:34.16 Well, I would say, don't give up. 00:50:34.20\00:50:36.13 God knows where you are, 00:50:36.16\00:50:37.50 that He knows how you got there, 00:50:37.53\00:50:39.60 and He knows how to get you back on your feet, 00:50:39.63\00:50:41.77 He knows how to save us each and every one us. 00:50:41.80\00:50:44.51 There's no sin too big, there's no past too bad. 00:50:44.54\00:50:49.68 In fact, it shows His power, 00:50:49.71\00:50:52.21 the fact that we're willing to allow Him to do something. 00:50:52.25\00:50:56.18 The farther we have fallen, 00:50:56.22\00:50:57.89 the more marvelous it is in His eyes. 00:50:57.92\00:51:01.12 Now I don't believe anybody has fallen in His eyes 00:51:01.16\00:51:04.83 more than anyone else, 00:51:04.86\00:51:06.19 but certainly in the world's eyes. 00:51:06.23\00:51:07.63 And there are different stages of despair. 00:51:07.66\00:51:13.74 But the worst stage of despair is God's greatest opportunity 00:51:13.77\00:51:17.67 to show His power, 00:51:17.71\00:51:19.04 and His love, and His way of life. 00:51:19.07\00:51:20.41 And that's what I wanna show to people. 00:51:20.44\00:51:22.31 I want to be an example, 00:51:22.34\00:51:23.68 I've made myself available 00:51:23.71\00:51:25.31 to be an example to Him of His power, 00:51:25.35\00:51:28.48 and His love, and His way of life. 00:51:28.52\00:51:30.49 And never give up. Yeah. 00:51:30.52\00:51:32.15 No matter what. 00:51:32.19\00:51:33.99 Bobby is telling us no matter 00:51:34.02\00:51:35.36 where you are in your life today, 00:51:35.39\00:51:37.23 never give up 00:51:37.26\00:51:38.59 because God has a plan for your life. 00:51:38.63\00:51:40.30 And He says that in Jeremiah that you prosper 00:51:40.33\00:51:42.80 that you do well, that we be in health 00:51:42.83\00:51:44.57 all of these things... 00:51:44.60\00:51:46.30 Mostly the plan is 00:51:46.33\00:51:48.10 that we by putting on the armor of God studying, 00:51:48.14\00:51:52.24 praying, asking God to come into our lives 00:51:52.27\00:51:55.34 that it will protect us from the devil 00:51:55.38\00:51:58.25 so that we are able 00:51:58.28\00:52:00.28 when Jesus comes back we'll be able to look up 00:52:00.32\00:52:03.18 and say, "Lo, this is our God, my God, He's come to save us." 00:52:03.22\00:52:06.65 That's right. 00:52:06.69\00:52:08.02 And today that's our prayer for each and every one of you. 00:52:08.06\00:52:10.79 So, Yvonne, thank you for being here. 00:52:10.83\00:52:13.70 Oh, thank you for having me. 00:52:13.73\00:52:15.16 And being co-host with me today. 00:52:15.20\00:52:16.53 And, Bobby, thank you so much for your willingness 00:52:16.56\00:52:19.13 to give a testimony that is helping 00:52:19.17\00:52:24.37 so many people around the world. 00:52:24.41\00:52:26.84 God has done great things. 00:52:26.88\00:52:28.28 We're gonna take a break in just a moment. 00:52:28.31\00:52:30.81 We're gonna take a newsbreak, 00:52:30.85\00:52:32.68 but we'll come back for a closing thought. 00:52:32.71\00:52:34.38