I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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If you've tuned in
before, you know who I am,
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but if this is your first
time, my name is John Lomacang.
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And I'd like to encourage you
to stay tuned to this network
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which we
believe is a call of God
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to prepare hearts.
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And Jesus we
know He's coming soon.
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We thank the Lord
that He has used us
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and continues to do so as
we go and grow getting ready
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for that glorious event.
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Today's program,
let me encourage you,
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you don't want to miss
it, you want to stay tuned.
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There may be somebody watching
or listening to the program
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by radio in your car
or wherever you may be,
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or you might be
at home by yourself
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and you just sat
back and did not know
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what the Lord had to say to you.
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I believe
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that there's a special
message in this program
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that you need to receive.
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Our guest today has come
from the life of violence,
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gangs, prison,
going his own way,
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making his own choices,
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but the Lord came into his life,
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found him, transformed him,
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and now he's living for Jesus.
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And he wants to share with
you this transforming testimony.
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And I know that
something about his testimony
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is going to touch your life.
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So stay tuned,
invite your family
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and friends to watch.
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But if you're by
yourself, wonderful,
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the Lord may have
the message just for you.
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If you're in your car,
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turn the radio up
a little more now,
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because God is going
to speak to your heart.
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But on behalf of 3ABN,
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I also want to thank
you for your pledges,
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your financial
support, and your prayer
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that keeps us doing the work
that God has called us to do.
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Now as you might
know, we always had music
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before we begin our program,
before we introduce our guests.
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And the Lanny Wolfe
Trio is going to bless us
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with a song entitled,
"Jesus be the Lord of All".
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In my heart are kingdoms
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Of a world that's all my own
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Kingdoms that are only seen
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By myself and God alone
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In the past when I
tried to rule my world
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It just seemed to fall apart
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So please
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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The kingdoms of my heart
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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The kingdoms of my heart
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I guess I only fooled myself
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For I said I had yielded all
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But in a secret
corner of my heart
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Was a kingdom that did not fall
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But I surrender now
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Make my heart Your throne
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Rule its
kingdoms great and small
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For if You're not
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Lord of everything
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Then You're not Lord at all
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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Jesus be the Lord of all
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The kingdoms of my heart
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Jesus I surrender all
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Jesus I surrender all
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Jesus I surrender all
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The kingdoms of my heart
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For if You're not
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Lord of everything
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Then You're not Lord
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At all
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Thank you so much for
that ministry of music
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because if Jesus is not
the Lord of all in our lives,
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then we are not on
the path to eternal life.
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Speaking of that,
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Lotolua Ilaoa
is our guest today.
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Good to have you
here, my Brother.
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Thank you, Brother.
Yes, strong Samoan brother.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I'm just... Praise the Lord.
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I know your story
is gonna touch many
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that are watching this program
and listening to this program
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because while your
life is unique in some ways,
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there are some
may be listening now
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to the program
that could be listening
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to it from where you were.
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And we'll talk about
that in just a moment.
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But for a brief
introduction, tell us
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where you're from and
what you do right now?
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Well, I'm a
Native American Samoa,
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the island of
Tutuila that's the name
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because there's
many Samoan islands.
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But the
particular one that I'm from
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is a territory of
the United States,
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American Samoa.
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Okay, all right.
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And yes, that's where I'm from.
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And, but you live now in...
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I live now in California,
in Hollister, California.
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You know, in
California when I lived there,
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we used to say
California has four seasons
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Earthquakes, fires, floods,
and I forgot the fourth one.
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But it's a unique place,
but it's a beautiful state.
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I believe it is the
best state because the reason
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why because you can
get four seasons there.
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You want the snow, you
can go up in the Sierras.
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If you want the beaches,
where you get Santa Cruz.
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You get all the
beaches there the hot weather,
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and you got rain,
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and it's
awesome, it's wonderful.
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I remember once being in
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Southern California in December.
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And it was people
were swimming at the beach,
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and people were
skiing in the mountains
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on the same day.
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But it's good to
have you here. Thank you.
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You know, your
story fascinates me
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in the sense
that I'm a New Yorker,
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born and raised in New York.
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I know California,
there are two things
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that both of those major cities
have its gangs, its violence,
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not unusual
though in major cities.
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Miami, Detroit,
you know, Chicago,
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lot of the major
cities have vices.
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Texas, you know,
all the different gangs,
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and you find that
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it just dispersed
throughout America.
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But just start
with your transition,
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you came over to America
when you were a young boy.
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Talk about that just briefly,
how did you come to America?
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Well, I was nine years old.
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I was nine years
old when my dad passed.
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I know that my siblings probably
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gonna kind of feel
jealous, but they know.
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I have five
brothers and five sisters,
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I'm the
youngest of the brothers.
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Okay.
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And so I was the
favorite of my dad.
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And my dad, I
look up to him as God.
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He was my God at the time.
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And so, you know, when he passed
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when I was nine years
old, that's when my rebellion,
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the in me began
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because I started
hating everything.
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I hate the
world, I hate everything
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because he was taking something,
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someone that was
very special to me.
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And so from then
on I've always even
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when my dad was alive,
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I love to
fight, I like fighting.
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I was very good with my hands.
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And from that transition
that's where it began within me
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and that kind of
attitude that it leads to where,
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you know, end up in a
not very well predicament.
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Were you fighting in school?
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Well, they have a tradition
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where a little kids
where older brothers
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will put up
their little brothers
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to fight other little brothers.
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Is that the
Samoan tradition or...
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It's something that
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I think every one of
them they do in villages.
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Okay.
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And in my situation I
never lost. I always win.
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You know, and some
kids are bigger than me,
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some kids are little.
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But it was something
that was embedded in me
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and that's what
the scripture says.
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You know, the Bible
says that what you behold.
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When you're beholding,
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when you start
familiar with these things,
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it does something
to your character.
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And so at the
time I was not aware
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that this is
what was doing to me.
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It was forming in me something
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that was not the
image of Jesus Christ.
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And, but I enjoyed it.
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You know, sin can
be enjoyable. Right.
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But at the end it's very bitter.
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You know, so but anyway,
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yes, I am nine years
old and my dad passed.
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And about 11
years, about two years
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or about a year and a half
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that's when my
mother decided to bring...
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Some of my
siblings already here,
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my older siblings.
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And so my mom decided to
bring us the little ones.
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My other brother that
was a little bit older
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than I and two sisters
that was younger than I
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and to bring us
over to the States.
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Yes. And that was to California?
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And to California. Yes.
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And so you're about 11
years old at that time?
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About 11 years
old. Yeah, in 1976.
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Okay, all right.
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And so you get now
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with this
feeling of love to fight,
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you are put in school,
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how did that impact the
way you behaved in school?
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In school, you know,
the... Like the tough guy.
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Yeah, the funniest thing is that
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I love school.
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I love learning.
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It was something that I was...
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I guess it has to
do with the challenge
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because there was a challenge of
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who get the best grade.
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And it was
something that is in me
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that always delight
to challenge something.
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A competition.
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That competition
spirit which is something
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that God also
revealed to me later on
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in my walk with Him
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when He came into my life.
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That competition
spirit is not good, you know,
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but I'll go into that if I may.
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But anyway, in
school, I love school.
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I love school,
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I always wanted
to do the best grade
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because my father was a man
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that he was a
visionary, he was a man that...
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He was not a
Seventh-day Adventist.
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My parents, I don't know if I...
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They were not
Seventh-day Adventists,
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but my mother was the one
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that became a
Seventh-day Adventist
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and I would like to
meet one of these days,
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I would like to
meet the missionary guy
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that was determined, he
was not afraid of my dad
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even though my dad
was trying to shake him,
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but he kept coming.
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It was my mother
that opened the door
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for this man to come in
and give her Bible studies
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and the message of
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the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
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Okay. And she accepted it.
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She accepted that message
going against every traditions
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that Samoan culture
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as far as like the
woman must follow her husband.
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You know, must
follow her husband's...
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Lead. Lead.
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She went against that,
not only her husband's family,
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but her own family.
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And to me today I
look at my mother,
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she was very
courageous, very courageous,
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and she became...
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Now I know that she
was the prayer warrior.
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She was the prayer that kept me
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and kept our family.
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See, God was moving
the family along through
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her own personal
connection with God.
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And, you know,
there's something about,
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it become fearless when
you're in that situation.
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And so the fear of
the Lord the Bible says
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is the beginning of wisdom.
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So she feared and honored
God more than she said, okay,
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I know that your relationship
to the husband, your family,
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but my destiny is
more important to me
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than just traditions.
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But now take us to the place
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where in this childhood setting,
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you're looking at
your mother transition,
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but then how did you get
into gangs as a young boy?
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I was first
introduced into gangs
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when I was in
high school that is.
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And because it's
already natural for me
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just to like to fight,
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and so I started out in a gang
where there's a mixture of...
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It was all Asian-Pacific.
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It was Asian-Pacific
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men, young boys if I must say.
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And so there were, you
know, Filipinos, and Vietnamese,
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and Samoans this
was all Asian-Pacific
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so I was involved in that.
00:14:34.50\00:14:35.94
And I do not want to
say the name of the gang
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'cause I don't want
to glorify the same,
00:14:38.41\00:14:40.44
but I was involved in that.
00:14:40.48\00:14:42.48
And there were shootings,
and there were fightings,
00:14:42.51\00:14:44.38
there were beatings,
00:14:44.41\00:14:47.65
and I was enjoying
this kind of lifestyle.
00:14:47.68\00:14:51.52
And so that what
leads to that kind of,
00:14:51.55\00:14:54.52
you know, becoming
gangster and things like that.
00:14:54.56\00:14:56.73
And so you're
going through school,
00:14:56.76\00:14:58.66
through high school...
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Yes. You get out of high school.
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Well, here's the thing,
00:15:01.56\00:15:03.26
even when I was going
through all this and doing...
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The oldest guy
that was in my gang
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because he has a car,
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was 25 years old,
I was only 16, 17.
00:15:09.14\00:15:14.24
But when I
graduated from high school,
00:15:14.28\00:15:17.05
it was amazing, my
mother was even shocked
00:15:17.08\00:15:19.51
because I do my
homework even though, you know,
00:15:19.55\00:15:21.52
I go and do my homework
and then sneak out and go.
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And I graduated and
have a two-year scholarship
00:15:24.79\00:15:28.56
in Heald Business
College at the time
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because they didn't
have the internet back then.
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This is like in '90.
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I graduated in 1980, 81. Okay.
00:15:36.70\00:15:39.43
And what you call it,
00:15:39.47\00:15:44.37
the processes it was some...
00:15:44.41\00:15:47.24
And I was very good in typing.
00:15:47.28\00:15:48.84
I have fast hands and
so that's what leads me.
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You know, they had a competition
00:15:52.35\00:15:53.68
in high school and I won.
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I was doing like
60, 61 words per minute.
00:15:55.18\00:15:59.65
And so that I
guess it raised the flag
00:15:59.69\00:16:01.99
in one of these
colleges that are coming in.
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They gave me a
two-year scholarship,
00:16:03.76\00:16:06.19
but I turned it down
00:16:06.23\00:16:07.66
because I thought
that was a girl's thing.
00:16:07.70\00:16:10.90
I didn't want
my friends to think
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I'm girly or
something like that.
00:16:12.30\00:16:14.04
Oh, you're gangster just typing.
00:16:14.07\00:16:15.40
Well, I'm a
gangster doing typing.
00:16:15.44\00:16:17.61
So I decided after
that to join the Navy
00:16:17.64\00:16:19.64
instead of join the...
00:16:19.67\00:16:21.01
Get away from the
life that I was in.
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Wow!
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So you're going
through the Navy,
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in what branch of service?
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I was in the United States Navy.
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I served four
years as a radioman.
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I had a Top Secret clearance.
00:16:33.56\00:16:35.92
And I was always
good in things like that.
00:16:35.96\00:16:38.66
I was very methodical,
I was very, you know,
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I like to study and know things
what I'm getting myself into.
00:16:41.70\00:16:45.63
And so even the
military itself, you know,
00:16:45.67\00:16:50.44
it taught me
discipline and how to plan.
00:16:50.47\00:16:54.81
And, yeah, so all these
things, the good things.
00:16:54.84\00:16:58.88
All these things that
God was trying to embedded
00:16:58.91\00:17:01.62
in my character
so that way hopefully
00:17:01.65\00:17:04.02
I would do something right
in the prayers of my mother.
00:17:04.05\00:17:07.36
This time she was still praying.
00:17:07.39\00:17:11.53
But while I was
doing these things,
00:17:11.56\00:17:12.99
I was actually
taking things to myself,
00:17:13.03\00:17:16.50
it was for self-glory.
00:17:16.53\00:17:18.17
Okay, so these things
while you're learning them,
00:17:18.20\00:17:20.50
you're saying, "I'm really good.
00:17:20.54\00:17:22.60
It's all about me.
00:17:22.64\00:17:23.97
I'm gonna..."
00:17:24.01\00:17:25.34
So the focus was not on...
Not on God, it was about self.
00:17:25.37\00:17:27.84
Right. Yes.
00:17:27.88\00:17:29.21
You're getting good at
what you do rather than just
00:17:29.24\00:17:31.38
becoming a good
person to Christ.
00:17:31.41\00:17:33.18
But then, so how long
were you in the military?
00:17:33.21\00:17:35.88
I was in the
military for four years.
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For four years and
after four years I got out.
00:17:37.75\00:17:41.19
Okay. So did you
move back to California?
00:17:41.22\00:17:43.63
Yes, when I was
released from the military,
00:17:43.66\00:17:46.86
I went to live in California.
00:17:46.90\00:17:48.23
So with these new skills...
00:17:48.26\00:17:49.60
Still the history of
fighting, gangs as a young boy.
00:17:49.63\00:17:54.60
Tell us how you got involved
00:17:54.64\00:17:56.40
into the deeper
aspects, you know,
00:17:56.44\00:17:58.51
and I want you to
reveal what those were?
00:17:58.54\00:18:00.14
Yes, when I got out, I
went and look particular
00:18:00.18\00:18:03.45
because I always wanted to...
00:18:03.48\00:18:04.81
My dad was a police.
00:18:04.85\00:18:07.85
He was first, he
was in the military,
00:18:07.88\00:18:09.38
he was a Marine,
00:18:09.42\00:18:11.15
ex-Marine corps
fighting in the Korean War.
00:18:11.19\00:18:14.26
And after he finished with that,
00:18:14.29\00:18:15.66
he became a
police in the island.
00:18:15.69\00:18:18.26
And then after that he became
00:18:18.29\00:18:20.80
the director of the
motor pool for the island,
00:18:20.83\00:18:26.20
for the government.
00:18:26.23\00:18:27.74
And so in my
mind as his favorite,
00:18:27.77\00:18:31.31
even though he was
not alive, I wanted to do
00:18:31.34\00:18:33.34
and live up in certain things
in order to please my dad.
00:18:33.38\00:18:37.91
But you see, God's
hand was all in this.
00:18:37.95\00:18:39.91
You know, it was
all in this in a way
00:18:39.95\00:18:41.28
that I saw it.
00:18:41.32\00:18:42.68
You know, now I can understand
00:18:42.72\00:18:44.49
that God was
trying to lead me in a way
00:18:44.52\00:18:46.82
that my heart was always
trying to please my earthly dad.
00:18:46.86\00:18:50.83
But rather God was trying
to, "Okay, if I get him here,
00:18:50.86\00:18:54.06
if I get Lotolua to this
part to know me his real father,
00:18:54.10\00:18:57.87
he will also try to please me.
00:18:57.90\00:18:59.27
Right in the same way
you were trying to please
00:18:59.30\00:19:00.80
your earthly dad.
00:19:00.84\00:19:02.17
So, you know, when
I got out of the Navy,
00:19:02.20\00:19:05.04
I wanted to be a police.
00:19:05.07\00:19:06.74
So I wanted to get
involved in security.
00:19:06.78\00:19:10.48
And in the same
time I was taking classes
00:19:10.51\00:19:13.11
that are in a
way that will lead to
00:19:13.15\00:19:15.65
become a police.
00:19:15.68\00:19:17.02
Okay.
00:19:17.05\00:19:18.39
But all of that I was still
having this violent effect.
00:19:18.42\00:19:22.22
And while I was doing all this,
00:19:22.26\00:19:24.33
I got into fights
and things like that.
00:19:24.36\00:19:27.06
And I hurt somebody very
bad, hurt someone very bad,
00:19:27.10\00:19:31.23
and that puts me in the county
00:19:31.27\00:19:34.20
for about a
solid year in maximum.
00:19:34.24\00:19:36.44
Wow! Yeah.
00:19:36.47\00:19:38.17
Got out of there and
continued to doing the things,
00:19:38.21\00:19:41.28
and then I started
introducing to some friends
00:19:41.31\00:19:44.48
that would start selling drugs.
00:19:44.51\00:19:47.42
That's why I was doing security
00:19:47.45\00:19:49.22
and the same time selling drugs,
00:19:49.25\00:19:50.99
selling cocaine,
little portions of cocaine,
00:19:51.02\00:19:54.72
a little eight ball
here, little ounce here.
00:19:54.76\00:19:58.43
But later on then
00:19:58.46\00:19:59.93
I got introduced
into greater things.
00:19:59.96\00:20:03.20
And... Like what for example?
00:20:03.23\00:20:05.47
Well, I have
colleagues, friends that
00:20:05.50\00:20:08.37
because I injured
myself when I was in security.
00:20:08.40\00:20:11.71
I got into a
very bad car accident.
00:20:11.74\00:20:14.68
I had a mini truck.
00:20:14.71\00:20:16.04
And coming back
after partying overnight...
00:20:16.08\00:20:18.58
Was like a low rider? Okay. Yes.
00:20:18.61\00:20:20.25
That's back in... Which
is common for California.
00:20:20.28\00:20:22.98
Yes.
00:20:23.02\00:20:24.35
And coming back
from San Francisco
00:20:24.39\00:20:26.65
heading back to San
Jose, and I fell asleep.
00:20:26.69\00:20:30.23
It's getting my
mind. Yeah, I fell asleep.
00:20:30.26\00:20:32.16
And I flew off...
00:20:32.19\00:20:34.60
My partner that was
here with me, a friend.
00:20:34.63\00:20:37.97
I flew off the
freeway and hit a building.
00:20:38.00\00:20:41.30
What? Yeah, I fell asleep.
00:20:41.34\00:20:43.54
Now here is the
funniest thing is that
00:20:43.57\00:20:45.67
I always have
put on the seatbelt
00:20:45.71\00:20:48.24
even before they
have laws in California
00:20:48.28\00:20:50.48
requiring you to wear seatbelt.
00:20:50.51\00:20:52.88
It was always
normal, natural for me
00:20:52.91\00:20:54.65
to just put the seatbelt on.
00:20:54.68\00:20:56.58
My other friend
that was unfortunate,
00:20:56.62\00:20:59.45
he didn't wear a seat belt,
he went through the windshield,
00:20:59.49\00:21:04.39
but I was saved by the seatbelt,
00:21:04.43\00:21:07.83
I was just hanging.
00:21:07.86\00:21:09.46
So anyway, I got hurt there
00:21:09.50\00:21:11.37
and so I was
bedridden for about,
00:21:11.40\00:21:14.80
I say about good six months.
00:21:14.84\00:21:17.41
But in after that I
would start getting healed
00:21:17.44\00:21:19.71
'cause I broke the hip.
00:21:19.74\00:21:21.28
And you know,
00:21:21.31\00:21:22.64
the one of the bone
of my hip it came out,
00:21:22.68\00:21:26.48
I can see it in the x-ray.
00:21:26.51\00:21:28.88
And so it was very painful,
but anyway some friends,
00:21:28.92\00:21:33.39
some colleagues, you
know, called me and said,
00:21:33.42\00:21:36.02
"Hey, man, we'll pay your way
to come up here in Washington,
00:21:36.06\00:21:38.99
we got some actions up here.
00:21:39.03\00:21:42.30
Why don't you come up here
00:21:42.33\00:21:43.67
and we'll start
moving some drugs,
00:21:43.70\00:21:48.87
you know, and
have some fun system."
00:21:48.90\00:21:51.71
So they offered to pay my way.
00:21:51.74\00:21:53.07
I said, "No, no, I'm just
gonna come up there just to,"
00:21:53.11\00:21:55.84
you know, to get
away from California
00:21:55.88\00:21:59.01
and enjoy a different place.
00:21:59.05\00:22:01.08
I've never been
there in Washington.
00:22:01.12\00:22:04.82
Even though I was released there
00:22:04.85\00:22:06.19
when I got off
the Navy in Seattle,
00:22:06.22\00:22:07.56
I was never lived there.
00:22:07.59\00:22:10.43
So I went up
there and got in there
00:22:10.46\00:22:14.33
and they were doing
the same thing that,
00:22:14.36\00:22:19.73
you know, I was doing,
00:22:19.77\00:22:21.10
but this time it
was more big, bigger.
00:22:21.14\00:22:23.51
On a larger
scale. On a larger scale.
00:22:23.54\00:22:25.67
I mean, they were
moving much weight,
00:22:25.71\00:22:28.88
they call it the weight.
00:22:28.91\00:22:30.48
And that introduced me into it.
00:22:30.51\00:22:31.88
And I was very good
in what I was doing.
00:22:31.91\00:22:34.12
Since you're methodical already.
00:22:34.15\00:22:35.48
Oh, yes. Fearless.
00:22:35.52\00:22:36.85
And fearless.
00:22:36.89\00:22:38.22
And so I got there
the name, you know,
00:22:38.25\00:22:42.69
my name got very big there.
00:22:42.72\00:22:45.96
And, you know, the
Cubans from Florida
00:22:45.99\00:22:48.83
and were actually Bloods, Crips,
00:22:48.86\00:22:52.67
you know, from
Southern California
00:22:52.70\00:22:54.10
because that's
where it originated.
00:22:54.14\00:22:55.47
Oh, yeah. There's many today.
00:22:55.50\00:22:56.84
You know, they
say they're Bloods,
00:22:56.87\00:22:58.21
they're Crips, but they are not.
00:22:58.24\00:22:59.57
These are original,
they were moving out
00:22:59.61\00:23:00.94
because law enforcement
down in Southern California,
00:23:00.98\00:23:05.21
and in LA, in South Central
00:23:05.25\00:23:07.62
were very well cracking
down on crack and cocaine there.
00:23:07.65\00:23:11.89
So they were actually moving,
00:23:11.92\00:23:13.52
they were
moving going Northwest.
00:23:13.56\00:23:15.32
Looking for new
territory. Yeah, new territory.
00:23:15.36\00:23:17.59
And the Northwest
opened up a big market.
00:23:17.63\00:23:20.50
There was a lot of
people that were using.
00:23:20.53\00:23:23.16
So, you know, and I got there,
00:23:23.20\00:23:26.53
and it was the name was
going big in the streets,
00:23:26.57\00:23:30.24
you know,
because I was beating...
00:23:30.27\00:23:32.67
Well, my nickname that was going
00:23:32.71\00:23:34.74
by in the streets was ice.
00:23:34.78\00:23:37.18
Because I was a
cold hearted person.
00:23:37.21\00:23:40.22
I don't think
you will even like me
00:23:40.25\00:23:42.22
if you met me 20
years or 25 years ago.
00:23:42.25\00:23:44.62
I was very mean, I
was even bigger than this.
00:23:44.65\00:23:47.59
And bigger not in weight,
but I was very big, huge in
00:23:47.62\00:23:52.09
as far as muscular anyway.
00:23:52.13\00:23:54.53
But nothing to
glory about it anyway.
00:23:54.56\00:23:56.06
Right.
00:23:56.10\00:23:57.87
Which means you
had the whole persona,
00:23:57.90\00:23:59.63
the attitude, the
ego, don't mess with me,
00:23:59.67\00:24:02.94
I'm really good
at what I do. Yes.
00:24:02.97\00:24:04.37
I'm gonna handle
my business. Correct.
00:24:04.41\00:24:06.14
And your name
start to getting around
00:24:06.17\00:24:07.51
and people
started becoming aware.
00:24:07.54\00:24:09.28
"Wow! Look out for
this guy, he's serious."
00:24:09.31\00:24:10.65
Yes, yes.
00:24:10.68\00:24:12.01
And that's
usually what the persona
00:24:12.05\00:24:13.38
is when you're involved
00:24:13.42\00:24:14.75
because, you
know, as you know now.
00:24:14.78\00:24:16.72
As I know growing
up in New York City,
00:24:16.75\00:24:18.29
you either get
involved and be good at
00:24:18.32\00:24:20.29
what you do or
don't get involved
00:24:20.32\00:24:21.66
at all because life is short.
00:24:21.69\00:24:23.66
You know, if you're
not really serious about
00:24:23.69\00:24:26.23
where you're headed,
you could lose your life
00:24:26.26\00:24:27.86
just like that.
00:24:27.90\00:24:29.23
And so but here you
are, and as we unfold this,
00:24:29.26\00:24:32.93
you're talking to me
today because God had a plan
00:24:32.97\00:24:35.14
even while you
were in this dark.
00:24:35.17\00:24:37.01
Amazing! Awesome God. Yeah.
00:24:37.04\00:24:39.17
In it I thought
in the whole time,
00:24:39.21\00:24:40.64
I was all that.
00:24:40.68\00:24:42.61
You know, when you can
get away from getting shot,
00:24:42.64\00:24:47.12
getting killed,
getting stabbed, I was doing...
00:24:47.15\00:24:49.48
Otherwise it was
doing towards them,
00:24:49.52\00:24:51.15
but I always get away
from all those things.
00:24:51.19\00:24:53.42
But I thought I was bulletproof,
00:24:53.46\00:24:58.03
but I know now it wasn't
me, it was by the mercy of God
00:24:58.06\00:25:02.56
because my mother was praying.
00:25:02.60\00:25:04.93
But anyway I was
getting good at it
00:25:04.97\00:25:08.00
and the name was out
there just wanted to know that.
00:25:08.04\00:25:11.04
A lot of people don't
know what's going on today
00:25:11.07\00:25:12.87
in the drug trafficking world,
00:25:12.91\00:25:15.04
but I was
involved very deep in it.
00:25:15.08\00:25:17.81
And, you know, in
this part in California
00:25:17.85\00:25:20.55
in the area where I was at,
00:25:20.58\00:25:22.58
the line of drugs
that comes from there,
00:25:22.62\00:25:24.25
it comes straight
from through Tijuana.
00:25:24.29\00:25:27.26
And so there are
cartels, there are groups,
00:25:27.29\00:25:29.32
there are families.
00:25:29.36\00:25:31.66
These are families,
these are not just like
00:25:31.69\00:25:33.76
any individual that
wants to be a drug dealer.
00:25:33.80\00:25:36.46
These are families that are
particularly connected directly
00:25:36.50\00:25:40.04
with the source of it.
00:25:40.07\00:25:42.60
And so these families
are the ones that control
00:25:42.64\00:25:44.94
that certain area that
goes all the way from California
00:25:44.97\00:25:47.71
going up in Oregon,
00:25:47.74\00:25:50.05
Washington all
the way to Alaska.
00:25:50.08\00:25:52.28
This underworld.
Yeah, this underworld.
00:25:52.31\00:25:54.15
And these are families,
00:25:54.18\00:25:55.52
these are families
that runs the show.
00:25:55.55\00:25:57.69
So that's where, you know,
00:25:57.72\00:26:00.32
when they heard and known
00:26:00.36\00:26:01.82
because the drugs
are coming from them.
00:26:01.86\00:26:03.59
And they know that I
was moving a lot of weight
00:26:03.63\00:26:06.36
on their behalf.
00:26:06.39\00:26:09.00
So whenever there's a
conflict within their circle
00:26:09.03\00:26:13.74
because this is the
Mexican Mafia and...
00:26:13.77\00:26:18.17
So that's when they call me.
00:26:18.21\00:26:20.61
They will call
00:26:20.64\00:26:21.98
to come and take
care of that situation.
00:26:22.01\00:26:24.61
And I was very good at it.
00:26:24.65\00:26:26.82
I was very good
in what I was doing.
00:26:26.85\00:26:29.35
And so this particular...
00:26:29.38\00:26:32.49
If you want me to get into that,
00:26:32.52\00:26:34.29
I don't want to
go in details of it
00:26:34.32\00:26:36.12
because I don't want to glorify.
00:26:36.16\00:26:38.43
But I wanted to know how,
00:26:38.46\00:26:39.79
this is how God began His work
00:26:39.83\00:26:43.33
of how to reach me
00:26:43.37\00:26:44.70
because I believe God see that
00:26:44.73\00:26:47.57
I was going deeper,
and deeper, and deeper.
00:26:47.60\00:26:49.84
I was coming to the point where
00:26:49.87\00:26:52.67
that there is
no more conscience.
00:26:52.71\00:26:55.64
Life itself was
meaningless to me.
00:26:55.68\00:26:58.75
And so I was
getting to that point,
00:26:58.78\00:27:00.25
and I believed that God
was hearing the prayers.
00:27:00.28\00:27:02.78
And I'd tell you
how that happens.
00:27:02.82\00:27:08.12
So at one point I was
moving a lot of weight,
00:27:08.16\00:27:11.66
I was moving keys, we're
talking about big keys...
00:27:11.69\00:27:14.56
I have certain customers,
00:27:14.60\00:27:19.83
these main ones.
00:27:19.87\00:27:21.80
I will get these keys
and I will break them up
00:27:21.84\00:27:24.74
and give it to these...
00:27:24.77\00:27:26.74
Key is short for
kilos. For kilos.
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.44
Yeah, kilo cocaine.
00:27:28.48\00:27:30.45
Kilo at that time,
00:27:30.48\00:27:33.42
it is expensive if the
families from the cartel
00:27:33.45\00:27:37.25
will bring it up to you,
00:27:37.29\00:27:38.99
but if you go and get
it yourself, it's cheaper.
00:27:39.02\00:27:41.92
So these families
that are running over there
00:27:41.96\00:27:44.69
in Washington,
Oregon and so and forth
00:27:44.73\00:27:46.59
at this particular point here
in Washington where I was at.
00:27:46.63\00:27:51.73
These families therefore decided
00:27:51.77\00:27:53.40
that they will go
instead saving some money
00:27:53.44\00:27:56.20
and bring the load from Mexico.
00:27:56.24\00:27:59.07
Well, what happened was is that
the brothers went down there,
00:27:59.11\00:28:03.78
and this family, the family
that's running the situation up
00:28:03.81\00:28:08.12
in Washington and
they got assassinated.
00:28:08.15\00:28:11.52
The family down, they not only
took the money but killed them.
00:28:11.55\00:28:15.86
So instead of like causing a war
00:28:15.89\00:28:18.76
between them and
the family up north
00:28:18.79\00:28:20.96
so they decided,
00:28:21.00\00:28:22.33
"Okay, let's just put
our differences aside,
00:28:22.36\00:28:25.70
we will bring the load for free.
00:28:25.73\00:28:29.10
And you just have
to provide a safe house
00:28:29.14\00:28:31.41
where we can bring the load."
00:28:31.44\00:28:33.34
And it's free, you
know, the payoff deal.
00:28:33.38\00:28:37.35
Well, that's when they call me.
00:28:37.38\00:28:38.78
And they call me and
they asked me, I guess,
00:28:38.81\00:28:41.15
they have plans the
brothers that was lost.
00:28:41.18\00:28:44.65
And they set up
a place for meeting
00:28:44.69\00:28:47.19
and they asked me,
00:28:47.22\00:28:48.56
I said, "Okay, this so and so."
00:28:48.59\00:28:49.92
Then you need to do this job.
00:28:49.96\00:28:53.50
So me, I'm very methodical.
00:28:53.53\00:28:54.86
I don't just
jump because of money.
00:28:54.90\00:28:57.07
I ask him a question.
00:28:57.10\00:28:58.43
You know, I
asked him a question.
00:28:58.47\00:28:59.80
I said, "Sir."
00:28:59.83\00:29:01.17
I didn't say sir actually.
00:29:01.20\00:29:03.04
But I asked him, I said,
00:29:03.07\00:29:07.31
"Okay, why don't
you do it yourself.
00:29:07.34\00:29:10.28
I thought these
were your brothers
00:29:10.31\00:29:12.71
because you don't
want to be set up.
00:29:12.75\00:29:14.45
You know, you
want to be very clear,
00:29:14.48\00:29:15.88
you want to know,
00:29:15.92\00:29:17.25
we want to have
a plan A and Plan B
00:29:17.29\00:29:19.19
how to get there
and how to escape."
00:29:19.22\00:29:22.12
So when I got there I
asked him, and we met up,
00:29:22.16\00:29:24.19
and he came with
his two brothers.
00:29:24.23\00:29:28.40
And two brothers that met
me and I asked him, I said,
00:29:28.43\00:29:31.37
"Why don't you
want to do it yourself?
00:29:31.40\00:29:32.73
I thought that was your family.
00:29:32.77\00:29:34.10
If it was my family,
00:29:34.14\00:29:35.47
I'll handle it myself."
00:29:35.50\00:29:37.81
But he said, "No, no, no."
00:29:37.84\00:29:39.41
So that was the
first red flag for me.
00:29:39.44\00:29:42.38
And so I came up
with another scenario.
00:29:42.41\00:29:45.05
I said, "Well, okay.
00:29:45.08\00:29:46.41
That's fine, but how about this?
00:29:46.45\00:29:48.95
What if I go get them,
00:29:48.98\00:29:52.15
and then put it in front of you
00:29:52.19\00:29:54.52
and you will do the job."
00:29:54.56\00:29:55.89
So that will give
you a satisfaction
00:29:55.92\00:29:57.26
that it was your
family that was...
00:29:57.29\00:29:59.29
I just want to get
to the root of the plan,
00:29:59.33\00:30:00.86
you know, the situation.
00:30:00.90\00:30:02.53
What is the motive here?
00:30:02.56\00:30:04.70
I wanted to know
because everything I was doing
00:30:04.73\00:30:06.50
even in the wickedness
and evil that I know now,
00:30:06.53\00:30:09.00
at the time I didn't
know what was wicked.
00:30:09.04\00:30:11.31
I thought everything
I was doing was right
00:30:11.34\00:30:13.98
in my mind.
00:30:14.01\00:30:15.71
But as now knowing the
Lord, that was very terrible,
00:30:15.74\00:30:20.55
but anyway in my
mind, so I asked him,
00:30:20.58\00:30:22.25
I said, and he said, no again.
00:30:22.28\00:30:24.42
Like, you can do it yourself.
00:30:24.45\00:30:25.79
So I knew in my mind now,
00:30:25.82\00:30:28.82
"Okay, now I need to think
00:30:28.86\00:30:31.33
what am I going to be doing
00:30:31.36\00:30:32.69
because this smells
all set up right here."
00:30:32.73\00:30:36.67
So we met up.
00:30:36.70\00:30:38.03
And they wanted me to
do the job with their guns,
00:30:38.07\00:30:43.74
they're gonna
provide me the guns,
00:30:43.77\00:30:45.81
you know, the guns to do it.
00:30:45.84\00:30:48.48
And so okay, I play along,
00:30:48.51\00:30:50.35
but in the same time, you know,
00:30:50.38\00:30:52.78
I'm not gonna do it the
way they wanted to do it.
00:30:52.81\00:30:55.62
So to make a long story
00:30:55.65\00:30:56.99
I don't want to go
through the situation.
00:30:57.02\00:31:00.16
I handled situation,
00:31:00.19\00:31:01.76
it was in a way that
it will make sure that
00:31:01.79\00:31:06.19
it will send also a message.
00:31:06.23\00:31:08.53
Because that's what
you always wanted to do.
00:31:08.56\00:31:10.93
You wanted to send the
message that you know that
00:31:10.97\00:31:13.10
if anything that you
were trying to get back to me,
00:31:13.13\00:31:18.34
this is what's going to
happen to you and your family.
00:31:18.37\00:31:21.11
So that's the
kind of life I was,
00:31:21.14\00:31:22.68
you know, I was getting hold of
00:31:22.71\00:31:24.48
and all this it
begins when I was a little
00:31:24.51\00:31:26.98
that it becomes
normal and natural.
00:31:27.02\00:31:28.48
Competitive.
00:31:28.52\00:31:29.85
Yeah, competitive
and fearless I was.
00:31:29.88\00:31:34.46
Let me add some to that.
00:31:34.49\00:31:36.02
Not so much add
something to that,
00:31:36.06\00:31:37.43
but a lot of
people that are listening
00:31:37.46\00:31:38.86
and watching the program.
00:31:38.89\00:31:40.23
They're walking with you.
00:31:40.26\00:31:41.60
And I'm allowing you to do
this for a particular reason
00:31:41.63\00:31:43.97
because sometimes you would say,
00:31:44.00\00:31:46.33
"Well, that's a
television program
00:31:46.37\00:31:47.97
that doesn't really happened."
00:31:48.00\00:31:49.50
Well, that's just, you
know, this movie, that movie,
00:31:49.54\00:31:51.47
but this is a real world.
00:31:51.51\00:31:53.17
Television glorifies it. Yeah.
00:31:53.21\00:31:55.11
But there's a real
side to this drug world,
00:31:55.14\00:31:57.68
this dark world,
this gang violence,
00:31:57.71\00:32:00.02
this hit man world,
00:32:00.05\00:32:01.95
taking life, senseless violence,
00:32:01.98\00:32:04.55
there's a real side to that.
00:32:04.59\00:32:06.05
So it's not something that's
just dramatized on television,
00:32:06.09\00:32:08.72
but as Loto is telling you,
00:32:08.76\00:32:11.13
this is the kind
of life he lived.
00:32:11.16\00:32:13.03
So now tell me, how did
you get caught and sentenced?
00:32:13.06\00:32:16.93
I didn't get caught. Okay.
00:32:16.97\00:32:18.83
I didn't get caught out.
00:32:18.87\00:32:20.20
Like I said, you
know, and the same time,
00:32:20.24\00:32:22.77
I'm not going to even pride
00:32:22.80\00:32:24.14
to thinking like I was so sneaky
00:32:24.17\00:32:26.74
or anything like that,
but I was very methodical
00:32:26.78\00:32:29.01
in everything I do.
00:32:29.04\00:32:30.38
Whenever I make
a plan, I planned.
00:32:30.41\00:32:33.01
And I think God
wants us to plan.
00:32:33.05\00:32:34.95
You thought it
all the way through.
00:32:34.98\00:32:36.32
I thought it all the way through
00:32:36.35\00:32:37.69
what I need to do.
00:32:37.72\00:32:39.05
But anyway this particular deal
whenever we finished moving.
00:32:39.09\00:32:43.73
When I mean moving is
selling all the products
00:32:43.76\00:32:46.59
that we have for that moment.
00:32:46.63\00:32:49.40
Then we take a break.
00:32:49.43\00:32:51.63
You know, then I take a vacation
00:32:51.67\00:32:54.04
in order to take off because
00:32:54.07\00:32:56.04
that's what smart
people and that's why
00:32:56.07\00:32:57.51
there's a lot of
people that are now
00:32:57.54\00:32:58.87
filling up our
jails and everything else.
00:32:58.91\00:33:00.61
These are the small guys
you see in the corner selling.
00:33:00.64\00:33:03.38
And those are the ones
that continue to continue
00:33:03.41\00:33:05.11
so always their
faces are out there,
00:33:05.15\00:33:07.98
and so the
authority always find them.
00:33:08.02\00:33:12.69
But the real
guys that are the ones
00:33:12.72\00:33:14.92
that are supplying all these,
00:33:14.96\00:33:16.69
you know, illegal
drugs and everything else,
00:33:16.73\00:33:18.73
they will take vacations and go,
00:33:18.76\00:33:20.36
you know,
00:33:20.40\00:33:21.73
and have a much, much
easier life and prosper.
00:33:21.76\00:33:23.73
But they stay out of the visual.
00:33:23.77\00:33:25.93
Yes, they're not
visual to the authorities.
00:33:25.97\00:33:29.34
Anyway to make it quick.
00:33:29.37\00:33:32.97
So anyway I was...
00:33:33.01\00:33:34.34
We're taking a break
00:33:34.38\00:33:35.71
and the keys were
locked in a Corvette.
00:33:35.74\00:33:40.62
And so they all
wanted to please,
00:33:40.65\00:33:44.05
you know, they
wanted to please me
00:33:44.09\00:33:45.42
to open the door.
00:33:45.45\00:33:47.46
But I was left all by myself
in my colleague's apartment
00:33:47.49\00:33:50.33
so I was in there.
00:33:50.36\00:33:51.83
So I was taking my lines,
00:33:51.86\00:33:53.56
I have a special
vial that I'll make sure
00:33:53.60\00:33:56.56
because I don't want it
to somebody to taint with it
00:33:56.60\00:33:59.27
so I can take a little
sniff to keep me awake.
00:33:59.30\00:34:02.97
And so while I
was in the apartment,
00:34:03.00\00:34:05.24
all of a sudden,
00:34:05.27\00:34:06.98
I hear a loud
voice inside this room,
00:34:07.01\00:34:09.58
this apartment, two words,
00:34:09.61\00:34:12.91
"come home".
00:34:12.95\00:34:16.99
So remember this whole thing.
00:34:17.02\00:34:18.62
Remember, I have no experience
with spiritual things,
00:34:18.65\00:34:21.86
I never believe in angels,
I never believe in demons.
00:34:21.89\00:34:24.19
I thought people that
believe in that things,
00:34:24.23\00:34:26.29
bunch of nut cases.
00:34:26.33\00:34:28.13
You know, they always
talk about this and that,
00:34:28.16\00:34:30.47
I didn't
believe in none of that.
00:34:30.50\00:34:32.63
But this time, the first
thing that came to my mind
00:34:32.67\00:34:35.64
what was wrong with
this line that I just made,
00:34:35.67\00:34:37.81
maybe somebody
spiked that or something.
00:34:37.84\00:34:41.98
So I looked again,
00:34:42.01\00:34:45.51
and I said, there's
nothing wrong with it.
00:34:45.55\00:34:47.42
Anyway at that moment
00:34:47.45\00:34:50.52
when I was going
through this experience
00:34:50.55\00:34:55.26
I want to fast forward...
00:34:55.29\00:34:57.73
My mother was up there
in that particular time.
00:34:57.76\00:35:00.40
My mother was up with
some relatives in Washington.
00:35:00.43\00:35:03.26
And this time when I found
her, she was praying with them.
00:35:03.30\00:35:07.70
She was praying
because I remember
00:35:07.74\00:35:09.17
one of our family
together gathering.
00:35:09.20\00:35:12.17
My mother came to me
and asked me and said,
00:35:12.21\00:35:14.94
"Son, why don't you put
away or leave your sin."
00:35:14.98\00:35:18.21
I looked at my mother's
face, my beautiful mother.
00:35:18.25\00:35:21.72
And I said, "Mom, I love my sin.
00:35:21.75\00:35:25.45
I'm happy with my sin,
but I'm looking at you guys.
00:35:25.49\00:35:28.52
You guys are saying
that you're going to church,
00:35:28.56\00:35:30.03
you love the Lord
and everything else.
00:35:30.06\00:35:32.46
It seems like you
guys are not happy."
00:35:32.49\00:35:34.73
It's just like many of
you are always complaining,
00:35:34.76\00:35:36.73
you know, da-da, da-da.
00:35:36.77\00:35:38.40
This is what was
going on in my mind
00:35:38.43\00:35:39.80
'cause all I'm going by
is what I see, what I hear.
00:35:39.83\00:35:43.94
You know, see
the struggle of what
00:35:43.97\00:35:46.04
a believer goes through anyway.
00:35:46.07\00:35:49.51
So I said to my mother,
"You know, I love my sin."
00:35:49.54\00:35:51.95
So it didn't make sense to me.
00:35:51.98\00:35:54.75
So here now I am caught up
in this experience with God.
00:35:54.78\00:35:57.72
And I believe
with all my heart now
00:35:57.75\00:35:59.39
there was Jesus in that place.
00:35:59.42\00:36:03.06
So in that experience
I told everyone, I said,
00:36:03.09\00:36:08.23
"You know what, I'm leaving."
00:36:08.26\00:36:09.73
This is a lot
because at that moment,
00:36:09.76\00:36:13.70
all of a sudden, I
was like in a trance,
00:36:13.74\00:36:17.97
and when I was in a trance
even though I can see you,
00:36:18.01\00:36:21.64
but I can't see you,
00:36:21.68\00:36:23.01
there's another
picture that I'm seeing.
00:36:23.04\00:36:25.01
And what I saw when after
00:36:25.05\00:36:26.58
it says come home
and my heart was...
00:36:26.61\00:36:29.42
Now I'm going through this...
00:36:29.45\00:36:30.79
It seems like everything
else was blanked around me.
00:36:30.82\00:36:33.36
And I saw a dark
shadow from me going out.
00:36:33.39\00:36:38.73
All I see is this
dark shadow leaving me.
00:36:38.76\00:36:42.36
And I don't see you.
00:36:42.40\00:36:43.73
It's like I'm
looking at you right now.
00:36:43.77\00:36:45.10
But I don't see you,
00:36:45.13\00:36:46.47
but I see a dark
shadow leaving me.
00:36:46.50\00:36:49.34
At the time I didn't understand
00:36:49.37\00:36:50.71
what that means in that picture.
00:36:50.74\00:36:52.07
All I knew right
after that happened,
00:36:52.11\00:36:55.21
I kneeled down and start crying.
00:36:55.24\00:36:58.38
And, I mean, just
pouring and crying for nothing.
00:36:58.41\00:37:01.45
I don't know why.
00:37:01.48\00:37:02.82
Oh, you didn't know why,
00:37:02.85\00:37:04.19
but there was a
cleansing taking place.
00:37:04.22\00:37:05.55
There was a
cleansing going on right now.
00:37:05.59\00:37:08.19
But remember, I told you
that my mother was praying.
00:37:08.22\00:37:10.63
They were praying
with some of my relatives,
00:37:10.66\00:37:12.63
they are just praying,
00:37:12.66\00:37:14.00
and this is the
prayer that she prayed.
00:37:14.03\00:37:15.66
She told me later
on after I asked her.
00:37:15.70\00:37:17.37
She said she got fed up
with my lifestyle she was...
00:37:17.40\00:37:22.70
Actually she was
concerned about my lifestyle.
00:37:22.74\00:37:24.77
So she prayed
this prayer, she said,
00:37:24.81\00:37:26.81
"Father, do not let Loto,
00:37:26.84\00:37:30.65
my son enjoy the
sin that he's doing,
00:37:30.68\00:37:33.92
and make him
miserable in his sin."
00:37:33.95\00:37:38.02
This is the prayer she told me.
00:37:38.05\00:37:39.79
She told me she
prayed particular prayer,
00:37:39.82\00:37:42.62
that's the prayer I'm
praying now for my kid.
00:37:42.66\00:37:44.33
So the Lord is now
getting a hold of you.
00:37:44.36\00:37:47.60
But I want to
transition now. Right.
00:37:47.63\00:37:49.06
He's getting a hold of you,
you're praying, you're crying.
00:37:49.10\00:37:51.43
How did you end
up in Walla Walla?
00:37:51.47\00:37:53.00
Okay.
00:37:53.03\00:37:54.37
Let's get there
because our time is running,
00:37:54.40\00:37:55.74
I don't want to miss
on this. I understand.
00:37:55.77\00:37:57.11
I know it's warm.
00:37:57.14\00:37:58.47
Anyway I am...
00:37:58.51\00:37:59.94
After I gave my life,
00:37:59.97\00:38:01.98
I went home, I went to my house,
00:38:02.01\00:38:05.51
and I found out
that there was particular
00:38:05.55\00:38:09.88
they were having
evangelistic meetings.
00:38:09.92\00:38:13.62
There was a flyer
that came to my house.
00:38:13.66\00:38:18.39
And there was a flyer
that says there was a two-week,
00:38:18.43\00:38:20.86
no, it was more than that.
00:38:20.90\00:38:22.56
It was already
two weeks I missed,
00:38:22.60\00:38:27.20
but I believe was an
eight-week evangelistic meeting.
00:38:27.24\00:38:30.11
His name was Dick
Pollard from California.
00:38:30.14\00:38:33.48
I know exactly who that is.
00:38:33.51\00:38:34.84
He was doing the
evangelistic meetings.
00:38:34.88\00:38:36.95
Anyway I gave my life.
00:38:36.98\00:38:39.45
I gave my life there.
00:38:39.48\00:38:40.82
I got baptized. Amen.
00:38:40.85\00:38:42.98
And after I got
baptized, this is amazing.
00:38:43.02\00:38:45.75
This is something
even today many will not,
00:38:45.79\00:38:48.52
will never understand this,
00:38:48.56\00:38:51.33
but a voice that same
voice that says come home,
00:38:51.36\00:38:53.90
that same voice
came to me it says,
00:38:53.93\00:38:56.60
"Turn yourself in."
00:38:56.63\00:38:58.83
Yeah, turn yourself in.
00:38:58.87\00:39:00.54
Go turn yourself in.
00:39:00.57\00:39:02.64
I'm in that blank
mind in that same time.
00:39:02.67\00:39:06.57
I didn't even sink
or saying to myself,
00:39:06.61\00:39:10.05
"Well, man, that's a lot,
00:39:10.08\00:39:11.41
you know, you're
gonna get in a lot of time,
00:39:11.45\00:39:12.78
you gonna get
locked up for a long time."
00:39:12.81\00:39:15.08
But I went on with an
obedient to this voice
00:39:15.12\00:39:18.35
because I've never experienced
00:39:18.39\00:39:21.59
spiritual or
supernatural things before.
00:39:21.62\00:39:24.59
But I have learned
in evangelistic meetings
00:39:24.63\00:39:26.56
concerning who this Jesus is.
00:39:26.59\00:39:28.10
That's right.
00:39:28.13\00:39:29.46
And this Jesus
I'm willing because...
00:39:29.50\00:39:31.93
In the story of Joseph,
00:39:31.97\00:39:33.44
you know, when Joseph was taken,
00:39:33.47\00:39:36.17
you know, in captivity.
00:39:36.20\00:39:40.04
I read about it that
Joseph spent a lot of time
00:39:40.08\00:39:42.11
with his father Jacob.
00:39:42.14\00:39:43.85
And Jacob taught him and
told him about the stories
00:39:43.88\00:39:47.58
when he was
running from his brother.
00:39:47.62\00:39:50.59
And Joseph was only 17 years old
00:39:50.62\00:39:52.99
and yet he trusted the
God of his father Jacob.
00:39:53.02\00:39:58.03
And that's the
same thing with me,
00:39:58.06\00:39:59.66
I trusted my dad's God
because now I'm experienced,
00:39:59.69\00:40:03.16
I no longer trust my father,
00:40:03.20\00:40:05.17
my earthly father
because I loved him.
00:40:05.20\00:40:07.84
Now I'm trusting the
God that he told me about.
00:40:07.87\00:40:11.21
And I can trust
my God that this God
00:40:11.24\00:40:13.64
that now
supernaturally reveal Himself.
00:40:13.68\00:40:15.94
Okay, you're
speaking to me to turn myself
00:40:15.98\00:40:18.11
in just as He
spoke to me to come home.
00:40:18.15\00:40:19.85
And did you do that?
00:40:19.88\00:40:21.22
Yes, I did.
00:40:21.25\00:40:22.58
I went to turn myself in.
00:40:22.62\00:40:23.95
And they didn't believe it
00:40:23.99\00:40:25.32
because they
didn't have no witness,
00:40:25.35\00:40:26.69
you know, no
witness, nothing like that
00:40:26.72\00:40:28.52
because there's a
mark, I'm the hit man,
00:40:28.56\00:40:31.93
and then there's a clean group.
00:40:31.96\00:40:34.23
It's called a cleanup group
both cannot see each other,
00:40:34.26\00:40:38.23
all they gotta
do is do their job,
00:40:38.27\00:40:39.60
I do my job, it's done.
00:40:39.63\00:40:40.97
You don't connect. No.
00:40:41.00\00:40:42.50
Anyway, so I went
to turn myself in,
00:40:42.54\00:40:45.37
to make a short to
go forward in that.
00:40:45.41\00:40:48.84
The judge could not believe
00:40:48.88\00:40:50.21
because, I know,
the time is short.
00:40:50.25\00:40:52.35
The judge could not
believe that I will do that.
00:40:52.38\00:40:55.62
They keep on asking me...
00:40:55.65\00:40:56.99
When I got there,
when I turned myself in,
00:40:57.02\00:40:59.99
I have a lawyer, the
best lawyer in Washington.
00:41:00.02\00:41:04.23
And he was retaining.
00:41:04.26\00:41:05.59
He already met,
came down there and says,
00:41:05.63\00:41:07.63
"Loto, you know, you
don't have to do this.
00:41:07.66\00:41:10.37
You know, no
matter what you told him,
00:41:10.40\00:41:12.00
there's no...
00:41:12.03\00:41:13.57
I can get you out of it."
00:41:13.60\00:41:15.54
I said, "No, I'm
guilty. That's fine."
00:41:15.57\00:41:18.71
So over and over, you know,
00:41:18.74\00:41:20.38
in this process where you got
to go through the legal system,
00:41:20.41\00:41:22.91
where you got to
have representation
00:41:22.94\00:41:24.41
and everything else.
00:41:24.45\00:41:25.78
Maybe there was
something wrong with his head
00:41:25.81\00:41:27.72
or something like
that made me mentally ill.
00:41:27.75\00:41:30.19
All these things the courts,
00:41:30.22\00:41:31.55
the legal
system were considered.
00:41:31.59\00:41:33.09
Everything and he flipped out.
00:41:33.12\00:41:34.46
Correct.
00:41:34.49\00:41:35.96
But in my mind I'm in this zone
00:41:35.99\00:41:38.03
with the Holy Spirit.
00:41:38.06\00:41:39.56
The Holy Spirit
tell me, it says,
00:41:39.59\00:41:40.93
"Okay, Loto, turn yourself in."
00:41:40.96\00:41:43.47
And now I
understood why to turn myself
00:41:43.50\00:41:46.00
because God has to take
me away from all my family,
00:41:46.03\00:41:49.54
all my familiar friends
00:41:49.57\00:41:51.27
because they will be the
worst teacher's influence to me
00:41:51.31\00:41:55.88
in what God is
trying to teach me.
00:41:55.91\00:41:58.11
And the only way that
God can teach me His way
00:41:58.15\00:42:01.02
is for me to be alone in prison.
00:42:01.05\00:42:04.12
Kind of like Joseph. Yes.
00:42:04.15\00:42:05.75
And I tell you now,
00:42:05.79\00:42:07.12
you know, Pastor Lomacang,
00:42:07.16\00:42:08.49
you know, Brother Lomacang,
00:42:08.52\00:42:09.86
it was the most
happiest time of my life.
00:42:09.89\00:42:11.76
In prison? In prison.
00:42:11.79\00:42:13.96
In prison where I
learned about Him,
00:42:14.00\00:42:16.00
I learned about His word.
00:42:16.03\00:42:17.50
I was pacing about my
this cell on my knees,
00:42:17.53\00:42:22.44
you know, in prayer
and reading the Word.
00:42:22.47\00:42:24.34
I started learning about
God and I fell in love with Him.
00:42:24.37\00:42:27.98
I fell in love with this God
00:42:28.01\00:42:29.34
and in my heart
also in the same time
00:42:29.38\00:42:31.18
where God will
share with my earthly dad.
00:42:31.21\00:42:34.82
Then I said to myself,
00:42:34.85\00:42:36.18
"This is what my
dad was telling me."
00:42:36.22\00:42:38.42
In those short nine
years that I have with him,
00:42:38.45\00:42:40.89
this is what he has
experienced in his life.
00:42:40.92\00:42:43.89
Now I'm experiencing it.
00:42:43.93\00:42:45.39
So here you are in
prison reflecting back
00:42:45.43\00:42:48.20
on what your dad
had been showing you.
00:42:48.23\00:42:50.63
What he had been teaching
you and your dedication to him,
00:42:50.67\00:42:54.14
your earthly father
00:42:54.17\00:42:55.50
now became your dedication
to your heavenly Father.
00:42:55.54\00:42:58.07
How much time did they give you?
00:42:58.11\00:42:59.84
That's a good thing.
00:42:59.87\00:43:01.21
Now the judge was to see the
first-degree murder two counts,
00:43:01.24\00:43:07.18
they only charged me one count.
00:43:07.22\00:43:08.68
That's another miracle.
00:43:08.72\00:43:10.12
'Cause if there's two
counts it would be much,
00:43:10.15\00:43:13.36
much more to the death penalty,
00:43:13.39\00:43:15.79
life without, but
they gave me first-degree.
00:43:15.82\00:43:19.63
And the way that scale was
00:43:19.66\00:43:21.80
is first-degree is 27 years,
00:43:21.83\00:43:27.14
between 27 years,
00:43:27.17\00:43:29.54
and the least one
is 20 in the lower end.
00:43:29.57\00:43:32.14
The high end is
27, the low end is 20.
00:43:32.17\00:43:35.11
The judge said to me
these are his very words.
00:43:35.14\00:43:38.58
He says, "Mr. Ilaoa,
00:43:38.61\00:43:40.48
if I have power to change,
00:43:40.52\00:43:44.29
I will make it
less than 20 years."
00:43:44.32\00:43:47.42
But because the prosecuting
office recommend the 20 years.
00:43:47.46\00:43:51.56
That's awesome.
00:43:51.59\00:43:52.93
I mean who will
ever think of that,
00:43:52.96\00:43:54.93
I mean, you can
think about today
00:43:54.96\00:43:56.30
and that kind of
crime, it will never be.
00:43:56.33\00:43:58.83
It can never be
they will give you
00:43:58.87\00:44:00.94
the highest or even
more an exceptional sentence
00:44:00.97\00:44:03.20
it's off the scale.
00:44:03.24\00:44:04.84
At the time they
will give you more.
00:44:04.87\00:44:07.24
But God saw just like
with Jacob 20 years...
00:44:07.28\00:44:09.64
I compared to like Jacob's life.
00:44:09.68\00:44:11.45
Twenty years, he
ran from his brother.
00:44:11.48\00:44:12.85
That's right.
00:44:12.88\00:44:14.22
God gave me 20
years of education,
00:44:14.25\00:44:16.65
20 years to learn about Him.
00:44:16.69\00:44:18.02
So I served 20 years, but
not all 20 years in there.
00:44:18.05\00:44:22.72
It was God released early
00:44:22.76\00:44:24.59
and yet be on probation
for I got out in 17.5 years.
00:44:24.63\00:44:30.87
And then you can say
00:44:30.90\00:44:32.57
because I was on probation
for two years when I got out.
00:44:32.60\00:44:36.10
The amazing thing
about being in Walla Walla,
00:44:36.14\00:44:37.71
and you're learning about God,
00:44:37.74\00:44:39.07
but then that's
where you heard about 3ABN.
00:44:39.11\00:44:41.61
Yes. Tell me about that?
00:44:41.64\00:44:43.58
3ABN was my...
Actually was the...
00:44:43.61\00:44:46.61
Shall I say the source,
00:44:46.65\00:44:47.98
the venue that
God uses to teach me,
00:44:48.02\00:44:51.65
to teach me about
truth, about the sanctuary,
00:44:51.69\00:44:54.72
about sanctification,
00:44:54.76\00:44:57.33
glorification,
about justification,
00:44:57.36\00:44:59.46
all these things
that I needed to learn,
00:44:59.49\00:45:02.43
to be nourished of
00:45:02.46\00:45:03.87
because I know the
enemy is gonna come
00:45:03.90\00:45:05.43
to trying to
discourage or trying to draw me
00:45:05.47\00:45:07.24
back to the world.
00:45:07.27\00:45:08.90
I just want to give a
note, you know, when I got...
00:45:08.94\00:45:11.11
I'm not gonna say the
name, but when I got baptized,
00:45:11.14\00:45:13.98
Satan's first thing
was trying to get me
00:45:14.01\00:45:15.98
to discourage of my calling
when God calls me to come home.
00:45:16.01\00:45:20.62
I sadly, very regretfully,
00:45:20.65\00:45:22.58
but the pastor that not pastor,
00:45:22.62\00:45:25.45
you know,
evangelist Dick Pollard.
00:45:25.49\00:45:27.66
But the very
pastor that baptized me
00:45:27.69\00:45:30.49
committed adultery,
00:45:30.53\00:45:31.93
you know, the pastor.
00:45:31.96\00:45:33.43
So Satan was trying to
use that to discourage me,
00:45:33.46\00:45:35.23
"See, your beliefs,
your calling is a lie."
00:45:35.26\00:45:39.57
It's a fake. It's a fake.
00:45:39.60\00:45:40.94
So, you know, trying to
get me to go back to the world,
00:45:40.97\00:45:43.41
but no this
experience I have with God
00:45:43.44\00:45:45.71
that's just my
challenge to everyone.
00:45:45.74\00:45:49.48
I don't care if
whatever you're going through,
00:45:49.51\00:45:51.35
whatever it is,
00:45:51.38\00:45:53.42
ask the Lord to give
you a personal encounter.
00:45:53.45\00:45:57.05
Once that encounter I
believe with all the prophets
00:45:57.09\00:45:59.45
that I read in the Bible.
00:45:59.49\00:46:00.82
Right.
00:46:00.86\00:46:02.19
I believe that, yes, we
are weak, we are sinners,
00:46:02.22\00:46:05.06
and we fail,
we'll fall, you know,
00:46:05.09\00:46:07.80
in many occasions and God
wants you to come back up.
00:46:07.83\00:46:12.10
But I believe that
many just like David,
00:46:12.13\00:46:14.07
just like Moses and everyone
is that personal encounter.
00:46:14.10\00:46:17.91
That personal encounter
will never depart from you
00:46:17.94\00:46:20.54
to trust and love the one
00:46:20.58\00:46:22.04
who called you, Jesus Christ.
00:46:22.08\00:46:23.91
And that's what kept me.
00:46:23.95\00:46:25.41
Even though Satan
trying to make me doubt?
00:46:25.45\00:46:26.78
No.
00:46:26.82\00:46:28.15
I was one of those people that
00:46:28.18\00:46:30.35
I don't just
believe in something
00:46:30.39\00:46:31.85
that you will tell me.
00:46:31.89\00:46:33.22
Right, because you can see that
pattern in your life though,
00:46:33.25\00:46:34.86
everything you did,
you did it all the way.
00:46:34.89\00:46:37.36
And that also spilled over into
your spiritual walk with God.
00:46:37.39\00:46:40.66
If you're gonna do something,
00:46:40.70\00:46:42.03
do it all the
way, don't go halfway.
00:46:42.06\00:46:43.40
Methodical. Yes.
00:46:43.43\00:46:44.77
Look at your
growth, look at your life.
00:46:44.80\00:46:46.27
Yeah.
00:46:46.30\00:46:47.64
Then you did your time,
00:46:47.67\00:46:49.20
the Lord blessed you by
allowing you to come out early.
00:46:49.24\00:46:53.01
Correct.
00:46:53.04\00:46:54.64
How did you
connect to a local church?
00:46:54.68\00:46:56.01
Did you go back to the church
that you were baptized or...?
00:46:56.04\00:46:58.15
No, as a matter of
fact God calls me to come...
00:46:58.18\00:47:00.52
At this time my
wife that is now.
00:47:00.55\00:47:03.05
We were not married.
00:47:03.08\00:47:04.42
We met in 1984
when I was in the Navy.
00:47:04.45\00:47:07.79
And she's an awesome woman
the best woman I've ever...
00:47:07.82\00:47:10.19
I thank God for her.
00:47:10.23\00:47:11.59
But at this time
she is a devout Catholic
00:47:11.63\00:47:14.46
as you know all
many Spanish Latinos,
00:47:14.50\00:47:17.27
most of them are Catholics.
00:47:17.30\00:47:20.74
But, you know, the Catholics
are losing the hold on that.
00:47:20.77\00:47:22.87
Many of them are now coming
00:47:22.90\00:47:24.24
to the
Protestant movement anyway.
00:47:24.27\00:47:26.27
But my wife was a very devout,
raised our son as a Catholic.
00:47:26.31\00:47:31.05
God says, "Loto, I want
you to go to California."
00:47:31.08\00:47:35.15
Because we're not
married at the time,
00:47:35.18\00:47:36.52
we've been together since 1984,
00:47:36.55\00:47:38.95
but we always
connected because of our son.
00:47:38.99\00:47:42.32
And I'm so glad,
and I thankful to God
00:47:42.36\00:47:44.16
that she was not involved
in the kind of thing I knew
00:47:44.19\00:47:47.83
that I was doing
00:47:47.86\00:47:49.20
because I could
have been something
00:47:49.23\00:47:51.13
that would
drastically changed her.
00:47:51.17\00:47:53.64
And so called me
to go to California,
00:47:53.67\00:47:56.14
it was very
impossible, but it was a miracle
00:47:56.17\00:47:58.01
that God has another
thing the story of itself
00:47:58.04\00:48:00.88
of our God on a probation office
00:48:00.91\00:48:03.51
because
California system was filled,
00:48:03.55\00:48:05.51
the poena was filled,
00:48:05.55\00:48:06.88
there's no way they
can transfer an inmate
00:48:06.92\00:48:08.95
from Washington to California.
00:48:08.98\00:48:11.65
But this probation officer
awesome, thank God for him.
00:48:11.69\00:48:15.36
His name was
Strahov, awesome guy.
00:48:15.39\00:48:18.03
And after we
finished my probation,
00:48:18.06\00:48:20.00
I can't find
him wherever he his.
00:48:20.03\00:48:22.13
He opened my folder and
said to make it very quickly.
00:48:22.16\00:48:25.93
He opened a folder and then saw
00:48:25.97\00:48:27.30
this whole
record this bad person.
00:48:27.34\00:48:29.27
And he says, you know what,
00:48:29.30\00:48:31.57
"I'll watch him."
00:48:31.61\00:48:33.38
He opened the door for me
to transfer from Washington.
00:48:33.41\00:48:37.78
To California? To
come to California.
00:48:37.81\00:48:40.28
And it's amazing
because he was very respectful.
00:48:40.32\00:48:43.05
And I witnessed to him.
00:48:43.08\00:48:44.92
I gave him a copy of
The Great Controversy,
00:48:44.95\00:48:46.89
we pray together, you know,
00:48:46.92\00:48:49.39
many probation officers
would just come into your house.
00:48:49.42\00:48:52.19
You know, to come to your house,
00:48:52.23\00:48:53.56
they don't have to
call you or anything.
00:48:53.60\00:48:55.76
They can... Surprise visits?
00:48:55.80\00:48:57.37
Not him, he will
call me and says,
00:48:57.40\00:49:00.04
"Loto, can I come over and see?"
00:49:00.07\00:49:03.04
I want you to know also
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I hope I'm not
gonna get him in trouble,
00:49:04.64\00:49:06.64
but he trusted me.
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I don't know how.
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The Lord gave him...
Gave him that kind of...
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A kindred spirit...
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Correct. Of respect.
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I remember, you
cannot leave your...
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Domain.
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When I got out, we go
00:49:18.29\00:49:20.02
everywhere out of
state, everywhere.
00:49:20.06\00:49:22.06
But he says, "As long
as you report, on Monday,
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report when you
get in, call me."
00:49:25.16\00:49:27.60
As I'm listening to your story.
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I'm listening to
a sincere part of it
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where not only did
the Lord convict you
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to turn yourself in.
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Because, I mean,
00:49:37.94\00:49:39.27
what people want
is not to be caught.
00:49:39.31\00:49:41.48
So here all of a
sudden, all this crime,
00:49:41.51\00:49:43.58
you came out of that and you're
standing before the judge.
00:49:43.61\00:49:45.48
And you're saying,
00:49:45.51\00:49:47.15
"Your Honor, I know,
00:49:47.18\00:49:48.58
there's no
record, there's no trace,
00:49:48.62\00:49:49.95
but I'm guilty
of all these things
00:49:49.98\00:49:51.32
and let me tell
you what I've done."
00:49:51.35\00:49:52.95
That is an amazing
thing. Let me tell you why.
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The person that doesn't
confess what they've done
00:49:55.79\00:49:57.99
will repeat it.
00:49:58.03\00:49:59.83
The person that doesn't own
up to what they are guilty of,
00:49:59.86\00:50:03.70
the Bible says,
00:50:03.73\00:50:05.07
"He who covers his
sin will not prosper.
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But he who confesses and
forsakes will have mercy."
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And so I'm seeing the scripture
00:50:12.44\00:50:13.78
that very scripture in the Bible
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coming pass in your life.
00:50:15.18\00:50:16.51
Praise the Lord.
00:50:16.54\00:50:17.88
You confessed it, you
forsook it, you left it,
00:50:17.91\00:50:19.91
and the Lord gave you
mercy not having to do 20 to 27,
00:50:19.95\00:50:23.32
but letting you out earlier
00:50:23.35\00:50:24.69
and giving you a
probation officer
00:50:24.72\00:50:26.05
that was a part of
your spiritual growth.
00:50:26.09\00:50:28.72
But now tell me,
where you are now.
00:50:28.76\00:50:31.63
Well, God is amazing,
00:50:31.66\00:50:33.36
well, I made a
covenant with Him like,
00:50:33.40\00:50:34.96
"Okay, I'm gonna turn myself in
00:50:35.00\00:50:36.63
and if you will
supply all my needs,
00:50:36.67\00:50:39.97
I promise I will give you 10%."
00:50:40.00\00:50:42.37
When I was in
there, I was making,
00:50:42.40\00:50:43.74
I start out with $25 a month,
00:50:43.77\00:50:45.67
you know, scrubbing
toilets and everything else.
00:50:45.71\00:50:47.98
But today, God
has opened the door
00:50:48.01\00:50:49.94
and give me a job
that I make 1,100 a week
00:50:49.98\00:50:53.35
and so He supplied.
00:50:53.38\00:50:54.72
And God has given me,
00:50:54.75\00:50:56.08
bought our new home, you know.
00:50:56.12\00:50:58.12
Everything, I mean, who cannot,
00:50:58.15\00:50:59.49
who can see that
only the hand of God
00:50:59.52\00:51:02.02
will do that for such a
person that's doing 20 years,
00:51:02.06\00:51:05.93
and with a felony record,
00:51:05.96\00:51:09.30
and yet God opened
abundantly in everything.
00:51:09.33\00:51:12.10
I don't know what
He has in store ahead,
00:51:12.13\00:51:14.50
but I know that this is
just the beginning of the work
00:51:14.54\00:51:17.11
that He's doing in me
00:51:17.14\00:51:18.74
and hopefully that
I'll share with others.
00:51:18.77\00:51:21.01
And I know there's much,
much, much more to share.
00:51:21.04\00:51:25.01
I want to make sure that
00:51:25.05\00:51:26.75
there's a point we
asked, a question I asked you.
00:51:26.78\00:51:28.95
Yes. And I like this.
00:51:28.98\00:51:30.85
You want to
challenge people by saying
00:51:30.89\00:51:33.25
God is looking for
you to encounter Him,
00:51:33.29\00:51:36.12
to have an experience with Him.
00:51:36.16\00:51:37.59
Yes. Fifteen, twenty seconds.
00:51:37.63\00:51:39.93
Well, I believe
with all my heart
00:51:39.96\00:51:42.06
there are many, many
men in prisons and women.
00:51:42.10\00:51:47.57
And maybe even out here,
00:51:47.60\00:51:49.97
there many of
them are struggling
00:51:50.01\00:51:52.07
about this God
that they hear so much
00:51:52.11\00:51:54.54
about that will
solve their problems.
00:51:54.58\00:51:57.28
But I want you to
know that God is a God
00:51:57.31\00:51:59.05
that looks in the heart.
00:51:59.08\00:52:00.75
It is the heart
that God is looking for,
00:52:00.78\00:52:03.42
and when you do something,
00:52:03.45\00:52:04.82
give it all to Him even
though you may look like
00:52:04.85\00:52:07.06
it seems like it
doesn't go anywhere.
00:52:07.09\00:52:09.39
God is willing to
give you that experience
00:52:09.42\00:52:11.89
and that encounter that will...
00:52:11.93\00:52:15.60
Change your life.
That will change your life.
00:52:15.63\00:52:17.00
Well, I tell you,
I want to make sure
00:52:17.03\00:52:18.37
that those who are
watching the program
00:52:18.40\00:52:19.73
will get the
information they need
00:52:19.77\00:52:21.10
because I know that somebody
00:52:21.14\00:52:22.47
would want to
invite you to come.
00:52:22.50\00:52:24.47
And we're gonna come
back after the news break,
00:52:24.51\00:52:26.47
but I'm gonna make sure
that they get the information.
00:52:26.51\00:52:28.84
The information you need
to contact Loto is right here.
00:52:28.88\00:52:33.25
And after the news break
00:52:33.28\00:52:34.62
we'll be back for a
few closing thoughts.
00:52:34.65\00:52:36.75