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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:08 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:11 My name is CA Murray. 01:12 And thank you once again for sharing 01:14 just a little of your day with us. 01:16 We thank you as always for your love, your prayers, 01:18 your support of Three Angels Broadcasting Network, 01:21 as together we seek to lift up the mighty 01:24 and matchless name of Jesus. 01:26 Got a fun program today, 01:27 and I'm really excited to get into it. 01:29 First of all, I'm happy because of the subject. 01:32 And I pray that 01:33 if you're watching this program, 01:34 you've already eaten 01:36 because we don't want your mouth watering 01:38 for the next hour 01:41 as we talk about some of the things 01:42 that we're gonna discuss today. 01:44 We have Heidi Tompkins and Ivan Raj, 01:46 you've seen them before, 01:48 they're both of Heidi's Kitchen. 01:49 And I don't know if you guys have a title or not. 01:51 You're just as Heidi's Kitchen 01:54 but somebody does something and somebody does something. 01:57 And you've been together so long, 01:59 we kind of think of you in the same breath 02:01 but Heidi's Kitchen is operating in 02:02 and around New York City. 02:04 Yes, Heidi's Health Kitchen. Heidi's Health Kitchen. 02:06 The health message is in there. Yes. 02:08 Heidi's Health Kitchen, and let's get that right. 02:10 I'm so... I'm excited about the food and desserts. 02:12 I even have my own little sample of stuff here. 02:14 This is gonna be a great show, we're gonna eat, 02:16 we're gonna talk, we're gonna laugh, 02:18 really, really a good time. 02:19 These are really neat people. 02:20 Heidi is from Connecticut 02:22 and Ivan is from a little bit further away. 02:25 But first I need to find out how you guys got together, 02:28 and then I want to walk through this ministry 02:29 and go right to the video because it says so much. 02:32 So, Heidi, Connecticut girl? Sure. 02:34 Adventist home? Yes. 02:36 Yup, Adventist family, Adventist parents, 02:39 grew up in an Adventist home. 02:41 Well, did you always want to get involved 02:43 in cooking and health? 02:44 Is that always a kind of a thing for you? 02:46 I did, I did from a small child even, 02:49 you know, eight years old. 02:50 If you ask me, 02:51 "What do you want to do when you grow up?" 02:53 My answer was, I wanted to have vegetarian restaurant. 02:54 Is that so? Yes. 02:56 You had that vision that early on in life. 02:58 And so when you went to school, 02:59 did you pursue those kinds of things in school or... 03:02 I didn't. I didn't. 03:05 I mostly just cooked at home, 03:07 which I think my mom was grateful 03:09 that I helped her with those responsibilities. 03:12 And really just developed a love for it then 03:16 and continued to cook throughout my life. 03:18 So you're kind of going and learning as you go. 03:21 So it's just... Yeah, evolving kind of thing, yeah. 03:22 Yes. We're learning in the kitchen of Christ. 03:26 Well, well said. 03:27 Ivan, from India obviously. From India, yes. 03:30 What part? From a city called Chennai. 03:32 I was born and raised in Chennai. 03:34 Walk us quickly through your journey 03:36 from India to the United States. 03:37 Sure. 03:39 I was born and raised in a Christian family, 03:41 a non-Adventist family. 03:42 We were looking for the truth, 03:44 many churches, many denominations, 03:45 and then we, 03:47 our God lead us into the Adventist Church 03:49 in 1992 or 1993, on that time. 03:52 And since then we've been Adventists 03:53 and God actually called me to come to New York 03:56 about five and half 03:58 or six years ago, approximately. 03:59 And since then 04:03 God has been leading me in many ways 04:05 and one thing was to start a business 04:08 and a ministry hybrid model. 04:12 So how did you two come together? 04:14 So we met in 2013 04:17 when the whole New York 13 thing was going on. 04:19 I was a full time Bible worker 04:20 and Ivan was a member of the church 04:23 where the Revelation of Hope took place. 04:26 And he joined a class that I took... 04:29 that I offered later to train church members 04:32 to become Lay Bible workers 04:34 and so Ivan became a Lay Bible worker. 04:36 And after New York 13 was over, 04:40 we were still continuing to do Bible work. 04:42 And, you know, we're praying about a way 04:44 that God's work would be supported 04:45 because in this period of prophesy 04:47 it says that in the large cities, 04:49 this is how the work will finish up, 04:51 through Bible work and medical missionary work. 04:53 And so we prayed and asked God 04:56 "how does this work gets supported?" 04:58 And God impressed us to start a health food ministry 05:01 and He even gave the name Heidi's Health Kitchen. 05:04 You say impressed us. 05:05 So by then you had already have the idea, 05:07 you're gonna be working together. 05:08 Yes. Yeah. 05:10 We were... Right. 05:11 'Cause we were doing the same things 05:12 and so we were just asking God, 05:14 you know, how does this work get supported? 05:16 And so we were both praying, asking God 05:19 and we felt impressed together 05:20 to start this Health Food Ministry. 05:22 Wow! Bless your heart. 05:24 And so you started in 2013-14? Yes. 05:27 So you're still relatively new. Yes. 05:29 Yeah, yeah, but you come a long way kind of fast. 05:31 Yes. Praise God. Praise the Lord. 05:35 If someone were to ask you, what is you're goal? 05:37 What is you're the end game for you? 05:40 What are you working towards? 05:41 How would you answer that question? 05:43 I would say that our goal 05:44 is to reach as many people in large cities 05:48 as possible through the restaurant work 05:51 and the health food ministry work. 05:53 We, you know, we hope, 05:54 we operate a pop-up restaurant now 05:56 which we'll talk about later. 05:57 But, you know, we hope to have... 05:59 Well, I'll give you the vision at the end. 06:01 But we hope to have our own place, one location, 06:04 where we can do the manufacturing of carubies, 06:08 where we can have a small café(C) or restaurant 06:11 and where we can do the food production 06:13 for some food trucks 06:15 and other things around the city. 06:16 Bless your heart. 06:17 Now you just threw out a word 06:19 and if, unless you're familiar with it, 06:21 we have to come back to it carubies, 06:22 we need to come back to that. 06:23 Let's hold that for now. 06:25 But it's in the air, 06:26 it's the elephant in the room carubies. 06:28 Because carubies underscores 06:30 a lot of other things that would... 06:31 Yes. Yeah. 06:32 And then there's another term 06:34 we want to come back to a little bit, 06:35 pop-up restaurant. 06:37 Because, for a lot of people I know that's an alien term. 06:38 I want to go to this video now 06:40 because it kind of gives you a context 06:41 for what they're doing 06:42 and how the Lord is blessing this ministry, 06:44 then we'll come back and we'll talk about, 06:46 sort of un package a lot of this stuff. 06:48 But look at this video. 06:50 This is a very informative and very inspirational. 07:29 In June of 2014, 07:31 right here in this upper room is where God impressed upon me 07:34 with name, the logo, 07:36 and the business and ministry model 07:37 for Heidi's Health Kitchen. 07:50 Heidi's Health Kitchen was started in 2014 07:53 with one objective, 07:54 to reach souls of Christ 07:56 through delicious foods for the wise. 08:34 We give cooking classes, health lectures, Bible studies 08:37 and operate a restaurant on a pop-up basis. 08:40 And to support all of this, God has given us carubies. 08:44 Carob truffles, 08:45 that we manufacture in eight different flavors, 08:48 they're gluten free, dairy free and delicious. 08:51 You have to try them. 08:53 Every purchase of carubies supports Heidi's Health Kitchen 08:57 and all of the work 08:58 that we're doing here in New York city. 09:00 We're having catering 09:02 and also have been operating as a pop-up restaurant 09:03 since last year right here in New York City. 09:06 Thank you so much, I thoroughly, 09:08 I was thoroughly surprised and thoroughly enjoyed it. 09:11 The pop-up restaurant was very good. 09:13 The ambiance is very nice and the food was excellent, 09:17 you know, full, full to the brim. 09:20 And everything was absolutely delicious. 09:23 We had such a wonderful experience. 09:25 Heidi's Health Kitchen. 09:27 And it was absolutely fresh and delicious 09:30 and we would totally come here again. 09:45 Hi, my name is Sooji, living in South Korea. 09:49 I'm doing Bible study with Heidi once a week 09:52 and I'm getting to know God. 09:54 Thanks to her. 09:58 We've been married together for like ten years now. 10:01 We've, as a couple 10:04 we've been trying to get a lot of answers. 10:08 I think he had over about a 100-200 questions. 10:11 Thank you for explaining each one of them 10:13 and logically explaining 10:15 and appealing to his logical senses. 10:19 Hello, hi, I am Sai Kiran Krishna 10:21 from Bangalore, India. 10:23 I was tired of life, the way things were going, 10:26 there was no change in my life. 10:28 And I even started Bible studies with me. 10:32 I want to praise God and thank God 10:34 that He and Heidi did not give up on me 10:36 even though I avoided them initially. 10:39 And I was introduced to Sister Ellen White books. 10:41 I want to say that I am head over heels 10:44 and love with Sister Ellen White books. 10:47 I invited Christ into my life many years ago, 10:50 but He was not alive. 10:52 I used to always hit a road block, 10:53 I used to always hit a wall, I used to wonder, why? 10:56 I was doing everything right. 10:58 But why is it not fruitful? 11:00 A friend of mine introduced me to Ivan. 11:03 Ivan has been counseling me to the ways of life 11:07 through the Bible, 11:08 I'm also being doing Bible studies with him. 11:11 Now and I love God to take control of my life. 11:15 He's leading me 11:17 to a totally different dimension of life. 11:23 I have been doing Bible study and counseling with Ivan 11:26 and I must say he is such a blessing. 11:31 And he came at like the worst point in my life 11:35 and his testimony, his Bible study, 11:39 just the conversations we have, 11:41 really have changed my life. 11:45 I met Ivan at the Seventh-day Adventist Church 11:49 at 11th street in New York and I also met Heidi there. 11:54 She approached me to do Bible studies 11:56 and we began Bible studies, I subsequently got baptized. 12:03 I've had a burden for souls for a very long time. 12:05 I just don't know how to reach people effectively. 12:08 Then I watched a sermon with my Pastor Alden Ho 12:10 on livestream and he was talking about a man 12:14 that was reaching people across the globe. 12:16 I connected with this man. 12:18 He was Ivan Raj from Heidi's Health Kitchen. 12:21 Ivan helped and supported me. 12:23 And as a matter of fact he jumpstarted my ministry 12:25 and together with my horses 12:28 we are reaching people for Christ. 12:34 Hi, I became an SDA in 2007 and I left the church 12:40 and God led me back and I'm blessed 12:44 with Bible studies with Mr. Ivan. 12:47 I'll always be grateful to 3ABN and 3ABN Radio 12:52 for the blessing that they have been to me. 12:55 Angela Lomacang interviewing brother Ivan Raj 12:58 and it's been such a blessing to be in touch 13:02 with Heidi's Health Kitchen. 13:04 We ask you to pray for Heidi's Health Kitchen. 13:06 Ask God how He would have you to support us 13:09 and to be a part of this mission. 13:11 We appreciate your prayers and your support. 13:14 May God bless you. 13:36 Amen and amen. 13:38 We got a lot to talk about 13:40 because you got this 13:41 whole other aspect of this international Bible school 13:44 that you guys are running, 13:46 along with your basic Heidi's Health Kitchen. 13:48 Okay, so let's start with Heidi's Health Kitchen first. 13:51 Okay. 13:53 A term we heard there, pop-up kitchen. 13:56 What is a pop-up kitchen? 13:57 Sure, so pop-up restaurant. 13:59 So Ivan actually had it researched this whole concept 14:02 before he even shared it with me. 14:04 And if he probably told me in the beginning, 14:07 I would have thought, oh, my goodness, 14:09 "how are we gonna do that?" 14:10 But he really, he found the place and everything. 14:12 So why don't you talk about that? 14:14 Definitely. 14:15 The pop-up restaurant, of course I should mention. 14:17 I did a lot of research. 14:19 I believe God showed it to me 14:20 when I was searching for something else, 14:23 because I'm always looking at innovative ways 14:25 to reach people. 14:27 And we actually contacted 14:30 a couple who owned a restaurant, 14:32 who're renting it on a pop-up basis, 14:33 which is to operate as a restaurant 14:36 once a month or once a week or of a different restaurant 14:41 when they are closed. 14:44 That's a... It's an idea. 14:46 So we don't have to buy any equipment, nothing, 14:48 just pay the rent, of course 14:50 and then spend few hours in the restaurant 14:53 and operate as a restaurant, as Heidi's Health Kitchen. 14:56 And this couple initially were excited 14:59 but they said... 15:01 They came to one of our pop-up restaurants 15:02 just to see what we are doing in Manhattan 15:04 because we already have 15:06 started our pop-up restaurant in Manhattan by then 15:07 and this couple were from Long Island. 15:10 But they rejected. 15:12 For some reason they said, 15:13 "No I don't think you guys are good fit for us." 15:15 I was very disappointed, very discouraged. 15:17 Like, I was asking God, "what did I do wrong? 15:19 Why this happened? 15:20 Because we really wanted to have something 15:22 going on in Long Island as a pop-up restaurant. 15:25 And God spoke to me in my dream and said, 15:29 "Go and speak to such and such a owner 15:31 and tell them about your pop-up restaurant." 15:33 And that venue, it's... 15:35 We over out of place called a Jack Jack's coffee House, 15:38 it's in Babylon, Long Island. 15:40 And that's our Long Island location. 15:42 Long Island location. 15:44 So I just went and said, 15:45 "Hey, we are Seventh-day Adventists, 15:47 we promote health messages. "Oh!" 15:48 And then the couple got very excited. 15:50 This is another couple. 15:51 They got very excited and they owned that café(C) 15:53 or the coffee house and they said 15:55 "We love what you guys are doing. 15:57 As long as you don't have stand up comedy 15:58 with filthy language and no liquor, you're good." 16:02 We said, "Absolutely." 16:04 That's easy stuff. Yeah, that's easy. 16:06 And I ask my question, Ivan and Heidi. 16:08 A pop-up restaurant, 16:09 okay, one day you go and the restaurant's open. 16:11 How does your clientele know, when, where, how, 16:14 how do you get people? 16:15 Most of that is done on social media 16:17 and Ivan handles all that. 16:18 We do advertising through Google and Facebook 16:21 and other social media, 16:23 you know, opportunities and it's on our website. 16:27 People actually book their seating 16:29 in advance on our website. 16:31 So they see all the dates, so they see the choices, 16:33 they choose their menu and they book their seating 16:35 on our website. 16:37 And so for us it's really, it really helps us 16:40 to manage our time, our resources, 16:42 our limited space 16:44 and our ingredients and all of that. 16:47 It's really a blessing. 16:48 Yeah, and cool, I just... 16:50 The idea of a pop-up restaurant totally blows my mind. 16:52 I just, who thought, who would think? 16:55 Of course it's a testament to the power of social media. 16:58 But the fact... 16:59 and also a testament to the fact that 17:00 if you make a product that people like, 17:03 people will follow you to go get it, 17:05 you know, that kind of thing. 17:06 So a pop-up restaurant, then who knew? 17:08 You know that? 17:10 So they close as their entity and we, you know, 17:13 change the environment a little bit 17:15 and we open up for dinner as Heidi's Health Kitchen. 17:17 We actually have a picture of our pop-up restaurant 17:19 with all the people seated and, you know, picture... 17:24 Oh, that's one of... So that's it? 17:26 Yup, that's it, that's our Babylon location. 17:28 That's a fairly... I mean, it's full. 17:30 Yeah. Yeah. 17:31 That is outrageous. 17:33 And so one of the things that we do 17:34 to bring people into God's presence, 17:37 you know, who are living in a world of sin and darkness, 17:40 we play, either instrumental music, 17:44 we've played Jill's piano CD before. 17:47 We've played "Moments of Peace" 17:49 and so people are hearing heavenly music. 17:53 There are health tracks on the table. 17:55 There's information and literature 17:56 available for them. 17:58 We encourage them to take it with them. 17:59 We give them the amazing health facts... 18:01 Amazing Facts Health magazine, when they leave 18:04 and we just love them as much as we possibly can. 18:08 So your clientele is already... You know who's coming. 18:11 You know when they are coming. 18:12 All that's done by the time you open. 18:13 You know what you got. Yes. 18:15 We generally try to accommodate up to ten walk-in's 18:18 because of course we want to do that 18:20 and we feed our staff. 18:22 And so we know exactly how much we have to prepare, 18:24 what we have to bring and it works very smoothly. 18:25 Now do you come back to the same place periodically 18:27 or do you really pop around a little bit? 18:29 Well, we've got that one location in Long Island. 18:32 We have a location that we're using in Manhattan. 18:34 We're looking for a Brooklyn and a Queen's, 18:36 pop-up locations, so that we'll be 18:37 in all five burrows. 18:39 Now how often do you pop-up in Babylon? 18:41 Both locations is once a month. 18:43 Once a month? Currently. 18:44 And, you know, if we, if we were just doing that, 18:47 of course we could do it more than once a month. 18:49 But we're both Bible workers and, you know, 18:51 we have food production, 18:52 we've so many things going on as we mentioned to talk about. 18:55 That, currently it's once a month. 18:58 Now I must admit, 18:59 I did not know about this concept at all. 19:01 This is something that possibly 19:03 can be replicated in other areas. 19:06 The idea of a pop-up 19:07 and the fact that you can pre... 19:09 I don't know what to say preordained 19:10 but predestined your clientele. 19:12 You know who's coming, 19:13 because they have already signed up. 19:14 You know what you've got. 19:16 So when you go in and set up, 19:17 you know what you're gonna get that night. 19:19 Correct. That's really, really cool. 19:20 So it's not left to chance. Correct. 19:21 And if extra people come, well praise the Lord. 19:23 Yes. Yeah. 19:24 Yeah, that's, that's fabulous. 19:26 In addition to that 19:27 social media and all those advertisements, 19:28 we also sample our foods outside the venue. 19:31 Correct. 19:33 A couple of times, so people see us, 19:34 people try our foods as well. 19:37 So we put a lot of hard work 19:40 in promoting what we have to offer. 19:44 And that Babylon location has been such a blessing. 19:46 I just have to say, it was really a blessing 19:48 when God closed the door 19:49 for the other Long Island location, 19:51 because it was all the way out east, 19:53 an hour and a half 19:55 from where we rent a commercial kitchen, 19:57 you know, near Babylon. 19:59 And of course we're already going an hour and a half 20:01 into the city 20:02 and then to be going an hour and a half 20:04 the other direction 20:05 and God gave us place right in Babylon. 20:06 It was really an answer to a prayer. 20:08 It's actually a two minutes drive from our house. 20:10 Praise the Lord. 20:11 So some people are coming out of Babylon and God sent you... 20:14 God sent you into Babylon. Praise the Lord. 20:16 And Babylon as I know South Shore of Long Island, 20:19 it's not a big, big town. It's not. 20:21 Yeah, it's a sea side of town. It's a quaint town. 20:23 It's a quaint type of little village. 20:24 There's a whole bunch of them along the South Shore there. 20:26 But people like good food and they look for it. 20:29 And when they know where to go to get it... 20:31 Particular in New York, they will go, 20:32 they will travel to get it. 20:33 Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Excellent. 20:35 We've got a church in Babylon. 20:36 Yes, we do. Now you're, so you're... 20:38 The place where you do your cooking is in 20:40 that Suffolk County? 20:41 Yes. 20:43 Yes, we rent a commercial kitchen in Amityville 20:45 for all our food production 20:47 and then we mentioned that we do cooking classes as well. 20:52 So right now we've got a few different locations going on. 20:56 We've got the commercial commit kitchen 20:57 that we rent in Amityville for our food production. 21:00 We also once a month 21:01 on the second Sunday of the month 21:02 give a free cooking demonstration 21:04 at the Crossroads Adventist church in Manhattan, 21:07 on West 45th street in Times Square. 21:09 Oh, yes. 21:10 And then two blocks away from that on 47th street, 21:14 we rent a Gourmet commercial kitchen 21:16 for our hands-on cooking program, 21:19 which is a three hour class, it's called "Cook with US." 21:22 So if you know anybody who lives in Manhattan, 21:24 who would like to learn how to cook 21:26 and join a hands-on cooking class, 21:28 we cook an entire five course meal 21:31 with our students 21:32 and they get to home everything they make. 21:34 It's called "Cook with US." 21:36 We have all the equipment for them. 21:37 We give them Heidi's Health Kitchen apron 21:39 and they cook an entire meal. 21:42 Unreal. You guys are all over the place. 21:45 And you're fulltime Bible workers. 21:46 Yes. 21:48 And that's why we are looking for that one location 21:50 that we'd be able to do everything out of, 21:52 because right now we are... 21:54 Popping up. 21:55 You know, we're trying to do the best we can 21:57 with what God has given us 21:58 but it's, it's right now in many different locations. 22:01 Yeah. 22:02 And a one hour a day that you do get some sleep, 22:03 I hope you sleep well. Yes. 22:06 Because and then you're carrying a full load 22:07 as Bible instructors for the conference. 22:11 Let's talk about your signature recipe 22:15 and the thing that sort of undergoes all of that. 22:17 Sure. Yes. It's carubies. 22:18 That's made in your, your Long Island kitchen? 22:20 In the commercial kitchen in Long Island. 22:22 In Long Island. Yes. 22:23 Okay, I passed in the Amityville, so I know, 22:25 I know that town pretty well. 22:27 Another seaside community, ocean side community, 22:30 really, yeah, yeah. 22:33 What is Carubies? What are Carubies? 22:35 What is a Carubie? How did it get started? 22:37 And I know they come in eight. 22:40 And these are Carubies here? Yes. 22:41 Yes and you got to try some. 22:43 Okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna hold the Carubie 22:44 close to me as we talk about, as we talk about Carubies. 22:47 So Carubies are Carob truffles 22:49 and we make them in eight different flavors 22:52 and they are all different and unique. 22:53 Each flavor is different shape and God gave us Carubies 22:57 in the very beginning when we started 22:59 Heidi's Health Kitchen as a health food ministry. 23:02 And really from the beginning, we were entirely supported 23:05 on the sale of Carubies. 23:07 We actually are not employed by the conference 23:09 since New York 13. 23:11 At the end of New York 13, the conference said, 23:13 "You know, we appreciate all your help 23:14 but we no longer have a budget for Bible workers." 23:17 And so, so that's why we were asking God, 23:19 how does this work get supported? 23:21 And so God gave us Carubies. 23:23 It started with one flavor 23:25 that was inspired by a friend of mine. 23:29 And so I prayed and I asked God to give me more recipes 23:36 and He did. 23:37 I'd wake up in the morning and say, 23:39 "Okay, this is our next flavor, this is our next flavor." 23:42 And by God's grace it's really a miracle. 23:45 Every single time, it just took one try, 23:48 there was no experimenting. 23:49 So you kind of the right brain 23:51 and Ivan is kind of the left brain. 23:53 Exactly. Now the situation... 23:57 You're the artist and he is the kind of... 24:01 He's the visionary and, and managing the business side 24:04 and that advertising and marketing and all that. 24:06 Why you need that? 24:07 Because as a rule, most, 24:08 most artist people aren't really down 24:10 with the whole business crunching number kind of thing. 24:13 I'm creating, you take care of the other kind of stuff. 24:15 Having said that, all this Bible work 24:19 that you're doing is on your dime, that's not... 24:21 Yeah. Well, praise the Lord. 24:23 Walk me through how this international thing got started 24:26 because you got Bible students all over creation, you know, 24:29 that's a really a great, great thing 24:31 and I'm trying to hold off here and I will for... 24:35 I'll put this down for a while and I'll be good. 24:37 Tell me about... 24:39 Tell me about the International Bible School 24:41 that you've started. 24:42 Well, Ivan share more about that, 24:43 but it really started... 24:45 I noticed that he was communicating 24:46 with these people all around the world. 24:48 Now it's like "how are you finding these people?" 24:50 And so on Facebook 24:51 and some other social media platforms, 24:53 he goes into these chat rooms and he looks for people 24:56 who are, may be mentioning something about Christ 24:58 or Christianity, who... 25:00 because he's from that culture and that part of the world, 25:03 he can tell by their name, kind of where there're from, 25:06 may be if they are from a Hindu background 25:08 or a Muslim background 25:10 and he looks for ways to connect with people, 25:11 it's really amazing. 25:13 Yeah, yeah. Okay, so the first... 25:16 This is how it all began. 25:19 I was very upset when I watched a YouTube video 25:22 where a Christian lady went to a Muslim lecture 25:27 and she rejected Christ divinity 25:31 and she embraced Islam. 25:33 Islam, yeah. 25:34 I was very hurt, I cried on that day. 25:36 How can you do this? 25:37 How can you reject Christ divinity? 25:40 So I asked God, 25:41 I want ways to reach out people. 25:43 Train me, so I can teach people to prove to the world 25:48 that you are indeed God, from the word of God. 25:51 So God actually pointed me to different people, 25:54 different resources, so I started putting together 25:56 some Bible studies. 25:58 And then I came across this young girl named 26:02 Sai Kiran Krishna on a Facebook page 26:06 where she posted Praise the Lord 26:07 with a Hindu name. 26:09 So I contacted her. 26:10 I asked her, "Are you Hindu or a Christian?" 26:11 She said, "I am a Christian." 26:13 I was so excited because 26:15 that's great to see a Hindu person praising Jesus. 26:19 So I contacted her and then we connected after... 26:21 But she initially avoided because by the time 26:23 she was attending some church and the pastors told her 26:27 that Adventists are cult, they worship Ellen, 26:30 and all those things. 26:31 So she actually avoided me. 26:33 I also introduced her to Heidi, she avoided Heidi also. 26:36 But she had a lot of questions 26:38 and then I introduced her 26:39 to pastor Doug Batchelor sermons, 26:41 pastor Ivor Myers sermons, 26:42 she learnt a lot, she was seeking the truth. 26:46 When she found answers through the Adventist pastors 26:50 and their sermons, she began to open up to us 26:54 and she agreed to do Bible studies. 26:57 Now she comes from a very devout Hindu family. 27:00 I have two pictures of her. 27:03 She was actually raised in a school. 27:06 This is a God man. 27:08 People still worship him in India. 27:10 This one in the front. Yeah, with orange shirt. 27:13 So this is from a school and the girl is highlighted, 27:16 so she used to admire him. 27:18 Oh, that's her to the right... To the right, yes. 27:21 She and her entire family, they admire him. 27:23 They worship him. So he is their God. 27:25 Okay. Okay. 27:27 She comes from that background. 27:28 There's also one more picture of her, 27:30 you know, just smiling. 27:34 And in fact this God man named her after his own name. 27:40 He named her personally. Your name is Sai Kiran Krishna. 27:44 His name is Sai Baba. 27:46 So that, that kind of devotion 27:48 she and her family showed once upon a time. 27:51 But she and her family did not have peace of mind. 27:55 She was the very aggressive, rude girl. 27:59 Now when she became a Christian... 28:01 That type of personality. This is getting good. 28:03 Yeah, when she became a Christian, 28:06 she was taught that you get baptized, 28:09 you're saved, that's it. 28:11 So that's it. 28:13 So she got baptized 28:14 and after then she got baptized, 28:15 she started drinking, clubbing, partying, 28:18 staying out late at nights. 28:20 And the parents said, 28:22 "What kind of a God is your Jesus? 28:25 Look how you've become. 28:27 Look what kind of a character you're displaying." 28:29 And that's sort of the doctrine leads to, because I'm in, 28:31 so I can do anything I want. 28:32 That once saved is precise saved. 28:34 And the people in their Sunday church 28:35 were doing all these things and she thought 28:37 well, I could just do it right along with them 28:39 and it just brought such turmoil to the home. 28:41 Yeah. 28:42 I mean the parents got so frustrated 28:44 that her mom said, 28:45 "It is good that Jesus got crucified. 28:48 He deserves to be crucified." 28:50 Wow. Wow. 28:51 So they were very angry 28:53 and there was a lot of issues in the family, 28:56 a lot of issues with their friend. 28:57 And that's when God connected us with her 29:00 and I to be honest with you, 29:03 I wanted to give up on her many times. 29:05 I said I can't do this, 29:06 I can't deal with such a rude person, 29:09 I can't deal, but God said, "No." 29:12 God impressed me, of course. 29:13 No, press, press forward, press forward. 29:15 This is a long distance kind of communication. 29:17 We've never met her till now. We've never met her. 29:19 We've never met her till now. 29:20 So because God impressed I had to, 29:23 as we say die do self and do it for God 29:27 and her life transformed. 29:30 She called up every single friend whom she hurt 29:32 and said "I'm sorry, I apologize." 29:34 So when her character changed into a soft person, 29:38 forgiving and cheerful and happy person. 29:41 Her friends started asking her, "How did you become this? 29:44 What happened?" 29:45 And she said, "No, I'm going through 29:46 Bible studies over the phone." 29:48 So they said, "Oh, we also want to have a better life, 29:50 we also want to be happy." 29:52 So she connected us with more than 50 individuals 29:54 for Bible studies, from one girl. 29:56 How cool is that? Praise God. 29:57 So we call Kiran our Evangelist in India. 30:01 See actually... It's an amazing story. 30:02 We won't take too much time. 30:03 But she actually... 30:05 She was a banker and she left the bank. 30:07 She left... She was, I think a branch manager. 30:10 She left the banking industry 30:13 to work fulltime for the Lord, for the Sabbath. 30:15 What? Praise the Lord. 30:16 And so she's very artistic, 30:18 she makes greeting cards and she uses quotes 30:21 from The Spirit of Prophesy and from the Bible. 30:23 She stands on the street, CA, 30:24 and she sells these cards 30:27 and she leads people to Christ. 30:29 My soul. That is amazing. That is amazing. 30:33 She introduces us to all kinds of people who are, 30:36 you know, wanting prayer 30:38 or who are willing to have prayer 30:40 and wanting Bible studies. 30:42 Now this is not the one, the lady we saw on the video. 30:44 Same lady. Is that the same one? 30:45 Well, she doesn't seem mean or aggressive at all. 30:47 At all, right? Yeah. 30:49 So what a total transformation? Yeah. 30:51 And that must make you feel so feel good. 30:53 Because two things happen, when you work for others, 30:55 you're also working for yourself. 30:56 And as others grow, it does something for you. 30:59 So to have this 31:01 and I'll use this term advisory trophy 31:04 so early in your ministry, must really have spurred 31:07 your believe that God is in this thing 31:09 and let's go on with it. 31:10 And you brings out that, yeah. 31:12 It's still a blessing because we have now a whole small group 31:13 going in Bangalore, in India. 31:16 And there, it's going to be 31:17 starting a new church, pretty much. 31:18 Wow! Praise the Lord. 31:20 So we have connected her 31:21 with the local Adventist pastor in Bangalore. 31:23 And of course she's now a baptized 31:25 Seventh-day Adventist Christian. 31:27 She introduced us to many people as I mentioned. 31:30 I just want to share two testimonies more. 31:33 One was, she introduced us to a Muslim girl 31:37 from the Middle East but she lives in India. 31:40 And she was looking for Christ 31:43 because Christ came in her dream 31:45 and she was looking for the truth 31:47 to learn more about Him. 31:49 So we started offering her Bible studies over the phone 31:52 and she had a problem before she got baptized. 31:55 The problem was, 31:57 "I left Islam 31:59 because I didn't like the teachings of the prophet, 32:02 it's the prophet. 32:03 You are saying, you have a prophet too 32:05 and that too a woman. 32:07 I never heard of a woman prophet before." 32:09 Woman prophet. Yes, yes. 32:11 So she asked me, 32:12 "How can you differentiate 32:14 between the Islamic Prophet and Ellen White?" 32:17 So I did a study on that research 32:19 and differentiated and showed, 32:21 this is what the Islam Prophet says, 32:22 Prophet of Islam says, 32:24 this is what God's last day Prophet says. 32:26 And one thing she liked was, 32:30 we don't follow Ellen White, we follow Christ. 32:32 Precisely. 32:33 But, and Ellen White has never claimed 32:35 to be the perfect woman or the perfect example at all. 32:38 But, and the Prophet of Islam has claimed that. 32:41 So that she liked 32:42 and then she also did her own research 32:44 and then she is now a baptized Seventh-day Adventist. 32:47 Amen. Amen. How exciting. 32:50 So you've got this International Bible School 32:52 that's going on. 32:55 Ballpark, how many students in how many countries? 32:57 Oh, probably about eight countries approximately, 33:01 eight countries. 33:03 And how many students? 33:04 Probably about, 33:05 right now we have about 12 to 13 people, 33:07 we talk over the phone. 33:09 In fact, right now we have a new Bible student. 33:13 She is not allowed to... 33:14 Her husband does not allow her to do any Bible studies 33:16 because he's a Hindu, she's a very new Christian, 33:18 like just one year old Christian. 33:19 And I speak to her on the phone and she doesn't respond to me, 33:24 she just types her response. 33:26 So it's that secretive but she is doing Bible studies. 33:28 Okay, wow. 33:30 How do you now allocate your time, 33:33 you've got active Bible studies in the States, 33:36 you've got Bible studies international, 33:37 you've got pop-up kitchens, 33:39 you've got two kitchens that you are cooking stuff in. 33:43 Yeah. 33:44 You're at 3ABN now 33:46 and doing 3ABN camp meeting in 2017 33:50 as far as cooking, 33:52 you're kind of strung out all over the place. 33:54 How has God given you the word of thought 33:56 to do all this things and obviously do them. 33:58 Well, there's joy and you're also having fun 34:00 doing the work of the Lord. 34:02 But walk me through how you, 34:03 how are you organizing all this stuff? 34:04 So our kitchen time is early in the mornings, 34:07 6 am to 10 am, 34:08 is our commercial kitchen time, 34:10 where we manufacture our Carubies and our foods. 34:13 And because of the time difference, 34:15 you know, in some of these international countries, 34:18 Ivan's often on the phone in the evening, 34:21 sometimes if we don't have kitchen work that day, 34:24 we'll wake up early in the morning. 34:26 So we kind of have to work 34:27 with the time differences as well. 34:29 And, and then office work is kind of done, 34:32 like in the middle of the day. 34:35 Unusually probably to business, 34:36 we generally take Monday's off 34:38 because we have events every Sunday, we're booked. 34:40 I'm sure, yeah. 34:42 Every Sunday for quite a distance out. 34:45 And so by God's grace we're able to manage it. 34:50 You... 34:52 How are your, your Carubies, 34:54 how are these sold, online? 34:56 Obviously. Yes. 34:58 Is there any other way that they are marketed? 34:59 So we sell them online on our website. 35:02 They are sold also on the website 35:04 for Amazing Health and Amazing Discoveries. 35:07 And so they're available in the US and Canada there. 35:09 And we also have some local vendors 35:12 who sell them by the piece. 35:15 Some little cafes and bakeries and restaurants, 35:18 they sell them by the piece. 35:20 We had a... 35:21 There's a pizza place in Little Italy and Manhattan. 35:25 And we also make vegan ice creams. 35:27 So for example, 35:29 we make a pistachio carubie and a pistachio ice cream. 35:32 So they would plate the pistachio ice cream 35:35 with the pistachio carubies around it 35:36 and serve that as one of the dessert options 35:38 in their restaurant. 35:40 Excellent, excellent, excellent. 35:41 And so, we're actually working with a company 35:43 that does a lot of the food packaging 35:45 for a lot of Adventist foods 35:47 to actually repackage Carubies, 35:49 so that they will be more friendly 35:52 for wholesaling to retailers. 35:55 And once we have all the funds together 35:57 to get that taken care of, 35:59 then we'll be in stores as well. 36:01 Have you ever thought of pitching 36:02 like to a whole foods or a, or a... 36:04 Yeah. We have, we have. 36:06 We really need the upgrade of the packaging 36:08 first to be able to do so, 36:10 because, you know, everyone loves the boxes. 36:12 It's pretty, it's gifty, it's nice 36:13 but if you don't know what a carubie is, 36:16 you don't know what's inside. 36:17 And it also says, carob truffle 36:19 but some people don't even know what carob is. 36:21 See, now that's where I'm going with this. 36:23 Walk me through the advantages of carob over chocolate. 36:28 Sure. 36:29 So the dangers of chocolate are that they contain 36:32 caffeine and theobromine, 36:34 which both are highly irritative 36:38 to our digestive system 36:40 as well as to our nervous system 36:41 and our brain. 36:43 And you might not think that chocolate is affecting you 36:46 but you might have headaches some times and wonder why. 36:49 You might have digestive disturbances and wonder why. 36:52 Chocolate can be the source of those things. 36:55 Were as, on the other hand, oppositely, 36:57 Carob is excellent for digestion, 37:00 it's been proven in studies, it's excellent for digestion. 37:03 It actually helps to balance blood sugar as well. 37:06 So our products are safe for diabetics. 37:08 I did not know that. 37:09 Yeah and so there's such a host of health benefits 37:12 that come with carob. 37:14 Of course people say, well, chocolate has anti oxidants 37:16 but carob has a whole host load of minerals and vitamins 37:20 that our bodies need just as well. 37:25 The classic rub against carob has always been, 37:28 it has this bitter taste that you can not get rid of. 37:31 Yeah. Yeah. 37:32 You have overcome that. 37:33 And I am not, we are not diverging trade secrets here. 37:37 But you've been able to overcome that, 37:39 so that is very edible. 37:41 In fact, it is so edible that I'm tired of resisting. 37:45 Go right ahead. 37:46 I have got three different kinds here, 37:48 if they can kind of bring the camera in. 37:49 You got this heart shaped little deal in the middle. 37:51 That's our black forest, it's our top seller, 37:53 we flavor with sweet almond oil and there's an organic cherry, 37:57 dried cherry in the center. 37:58 There's a cherry in there. Yes. 38:01 I wonder were that cherry is. 38:03 It's inside. It's inside. 38:05 You've got to take a bite. 38:06 To get to that cherry, I've got to... 38:08 Wow. Okay. 38:10 I don't know... We're not supposed to... 38:12 This is my first time eating on 3ABN turf. 38:13 Really? 38:16 I found the cherry. 38:17 We call it as "John the Baptist Food." 38:20 John the Baptist? 38:22 Yeah, it's there in the Bible. 38:24 Locust is Carob. 38:25 Locust bean and he had honey. The Locust tree. 38:28 So it has locust bean and honey 38:30 and of course that's the base recipe. 38:33 Some people think that 38:34 if it was like a survivor show, right? 38:35 That he was eating insects, locust and honey, 38:38 but he wasn't, he was eating carob and honey. 38:41 Now these two little mound ones here are what? 38:44 That's our original and that's our base recipe, 38:48 no nuts, no flavoring. 38:51 This is, this is actually very, very good. 38:53 A lot of people think the original tastes 38:54 like a peanut butter cup. 38:56 It has a totally different taste. 38:57 You want to try that one too. 38:59 Well, you're nuts of temptation. 39:06 Yeah, it does. 39:08 This is very good. This is really good. 39:12 So there's 16 truffles in the box, 39:14 for about a tablespoon in size each 39:16 and they are a wonderful gift, 39:18 healthy snack for your family, Sabbath treat. 39:23 And it tastes very good. 39:25 Yes. It really, really does. 39:26 Really well done. Thank you. 39:28 So you do your... 39:31 Forgive me. 39:35 Sorry about that. You do... That was really bad. 39:40 I'm gonna have to... I'm gonna need a napkin. 39:44 Oh, boy, this is really good. 39:46 This is a great show. 39:50 So you do your... 39:52 Thank you so much, Jeremy. 39:56 Really, that is generally good. Thank you. 40:00 So these are selling well I suspect. 40:02 Yes, they're really, 40:03 they are really more of gourmet product. 40:04 Lot of people don't know that they're not chocolate. 40:07 If they don't know what carob is 40:08 or if they are not told. 40:12 It's really a blessing from God. 40:13 Yeah, and you can get these, get these online and, 40:17 at Heidi's Health Kitchen. 40:19 I want to go back more back to for just a second, 40:22 this idea of a pop-up kitchen. 40:25 Do you have any connections from your pop-up kitchen 40:29 to Bible studies or to entrances in the church, 40:32 is that, is there a track 40:33 that leads from that pop-up kitchen 40:35 to some one coming to the Lord. 40:37 Yes, so we have tracks on each table, 40:42 pretty much we have just followed the blue print 40:45 that we inspired of prophesy, 40:47 every single aspect of it. 40:49 So we have tracks and on the back, 40:51 we have the address to contact, 40:53 if they are interested in Bible studies. 40:55 So that way we connect with them 40:58 and also through our cooking classes 41:00 and cooking demonstrations, 41:02 we hand them a survey, 41:05 the attendees will get a survey, 41:06 where we ask them, "Are you... stop smoking 41:09 and alcohol addiction to be out of it." 41:12 And then towards the end, 41:13 "Are you interested in Bible studies, yes or no?" 41:15 "If yes, can we contact?" 41:17 So anything we do, 41:18 we make sure that we introduce Bible studies. 41:21 So we have gotten Bible study interest and contacts 41:24 from our cooking demonstrations, 41:26 the free cooking demonstration at Crossroads, 41:28 the hands-on cooking class in, in Midtown, 41:32 and from our pop-up restaurant. 41:34 And what we've seen... 41:35 What, what just really thrills me is, 41:37 we've seen God bringing people to our pop-up restaurant 41:41 who have left Adventism many, many years ago, 41:44 with one woman come. 41:46 She was... 41:47 We've had such an amazing support 41:48 from church members and Bible students. 41:50 They'll bring guests, they'll bring their friends. 41:53 And so we had a woman that came 41:55 and she was a friend of a friend 41:58 who was brought by our Bible student. 42:00 So our Bible student came and brought a friend, 42:02 that friend fell in love with our food 42:03 and continued to come and brought another friend 42:06 and that friend was so impressed 42:09 with the food and she said... 42:11 Ivan was talking to her and she made a statement, 42:14 "I haven't had such good vegetarian and vegan food 42:18 since I was in the Adventist Church 42:19 many years ago." 42:20 It turns out she left the church in her teens, 42:23 she herself choose an alternative lifestyle, 42:27 but it was that brief moment, 42:30 you know, an hour, when she was dining with us, 42:32 we're able to be with in contact with her 42:35 and by the end of that time, 42:36 we were able to pray with her, by the end of that time, 42:39 "She said I'm so glad 42:41 that Adventists are finally doing this work." 42:42 Praise the Lord. 42:44 That's why I had to ask the question as I did. 42:45 When you bring a person to a cooking school 42:47 or cooking class, you have more time 42:49 to sort of massage the situation. 42:50 You would almost expect to get contacts. 42:53 But a restaurant is more of 42:55 a business client kind of thing. 42:57 I came to eat, I didn't come to be evangelized, 43:00 I didn't come to... 43:01 I came because I like this food, 43:03 I like this cuisine. 43:04 So it's a little tougher to add the God content there. 43:09 So if your pop-up situation is doing that, 43:12 then it is truly blessed by the Lord, 43:13 because that's not the primary goal of that. 43:16 The primary goal is just to expose them 43:17 to healthy eating and it's an eating experience. 43:20 But if you're getting people come into the Lord, 43:22 well, then praise God. Amen. 43:23 Yeah, that's a, that's a God thing. 43:25 That is really, really great. 43:28 There is so much to talk about. 43:31 One of the things I want to do, 43:34 fairly early on is get ready to do 43:37 some contact information for you. 43:39 Sure. Because what I see is this. 43:41 Your, your... 43:42 The carubies are funding everything 43:44 but you're, you're spending online time, 43:47 you're spending internet time, 43:48 you're making phone calls, none of that is free. 43:51 So there are other kinds of upkeep kinds of things 43:54 that out go, you know, 43:56 and all of this is being funded by this. 43:58 This is one of those ministries. 43:59 First of all, it's new, it's cutting edge, 44:02 it's exciting, it's getting results, 44:04 and it's a kind of thing that, 44:07 that you can put into the heart of a big city 44:10 and do something really concrete for the Lord. 44:14 If like big cities, small town, you can do this anywhere 44:16 as long as you've got a location to do some stuff. 44:18 So I want to go now to the contact information, 44:21 then we'll come back, and then I'm gonna actually hit it again 44:23 because I really feel that, that Ivan and Heidi 44:27 need your prayers and, 44:29 and can certainly use your financial support. 44:32 We talked about at the very beginning, 44:34 the end game which is to have a, 44:36 you want a full sit on restaurant 44:38 which can be your center, 44:39 you need a pretty decent sized building. 44:41 Because you want to, 44:42 you want to multipurpose and multitask, 44:44 a lot of stuff coming out of that building. 44:45 And, you know, in New York City, 44:46 you know, Brooklyn and Queens 44:48 often the kitchen's are so small, 44:50 it's hard to do more out of it. 44:51 So we're really asking God for the place that we need, 44:56 because we need a kitchen that's large enough 44:58 to handle the current manufacturing 45:00 that's being done in another kitchen. 45:02 It needs to be large enough to handle 45:03 the output of that location, 45:05 whether it will be a café or a small restaurant. 45:07 And then of course as I mentioned, 45:10 our dream is also to have a few food trucks 45:13 around the city as well. 45:14 They would kind of service 45:15 just small little satellite locations 45:17 on a day to day basis 45:18 where we can reach people in other areas of the city 45:21 and all of that production would have to happen there. 45:24 And so we're asking the Lord for that. 45:27 We absolutely need His blessing 45:30 and financial support for that to happen. 45:32 We know at the right time and right place 45:34 He will open that up for us. 45:36 But it is expensive 45:38 but God owns all the money in the world, 45:39 so we don't have to really too worry about it. 45:41 But anyway that, any of the viewers 45:44 wanted to be a part of this mission and this ministry 45:47 we would absolutely be grateful. 45:50 And as you mentioned food trucks, 45:51 I go all the way back to Willie Cushman, 45:53 and the New York van ministry. 45:55 So there's a history of this being successful 45:57 and making contacts in a big city like that. 45:59 The fact that you have one location 46:00 but you have these, 46:02 these tentacles going out of around the city, 46:03 that is a great thing. 46:05 So if you, if you get in a same bus that I am, 46:08 if you're excited about this because, 46:10 first of all it's a new ministry, 46:12 it's a cutting edge ministry, it's one that uses internet 46:14 and uses brick and mortar along with internet, 46:18 with Bible study. 46:21 There's so many aspects. 46:23 I don't know how you get the time to do all the stuff... 46:25 You guys really look good for the, 46:26 for the little bit of sleep that you're getting. 46:30 I want to go to that contact information. 46:32 Would you like to support this ministry, 46:33 you can contact them, you can speak with them, 46:36 you can ask them for information 46:38 so that you can replicate this is in your own town, 46:40 but most importantly you can give them 46:42 the kind of financial support they are gonna need. 46:44 We're praying for a big building 46:47 and out here in Thompsonville, West Frankford, 46:52 you can get a big building. 46:53 In New York City, you can get a big building 46:55 but you got to dig deep in your pocket to get it. 46:58 Whether be in Long Island, whether be in Queens, 47:00 whether be in Brooklyn, heaven forbid, 47:03 heaven praise Manhattan, 47:06 you know, where, 47:08 where small condos gonna cost you a million dollars. 47:11 So they're gonna need some financial support, 47:13 but God is able through you and to your support. 47:15 Should you like to support Heidi's Health Kitchen 47:18 financially with your prayers, 47:20 here's the information that you're gonna need. 47:24 To find out more about Heidi's Health Kitchen 47:27 or where there next pop-up restaurant, 47:29 cooking class, or seminar will be held, 47:31 be sure to visit their website. 47:33 HeidisHealthKitchen.com. 47:35 There you will find information on all their services 47:38 including catering and other products 47:40 that are healthy, delicious, plant based, and gluten free. 47:44 There website again is HeidisHealthKitchen.com. 47:48 If you'd like to contact them, their number is 631-663-3128. 47:54 And their address is Heidi's Health Kitchen, 47:56 Post Office Box 232, 47:59 Babylon, New York, 11702. 48:08 You guys are involved in so much stuff. 48:11 Yes. Yeah, praise God. 48:12 And all of it lifts up the name of Jesus 48:15 and this is why Jesus is gonna bless you 48:18 and this is why 48:19 God's gonna give you that building. 48:20 I don't know how. 48:22 I just feel to say somehow you're gonna get 48:23 and it's got to be a good sized building, 48:25 may be an old warehouse or something as you meant to do 48:28 like we did in Russia, 48:29 start from scratch and build it, but, 48:30 but I think the Lord wants us to build and it flourish. 48:33 I really, really do. 48:34 Now I need to ask just a couple of more things. 48:35 One, you've been working together 48:38 how long, how many years? 48:40 Almost three and a half years. Three and a half years. 48:41 Okay, this is a business partnership. 48:42 There's nothing I need to know about, okay. 48:44 Okay, just get the elephant out of the room. 48:46 Okay, this is the business... 48:47 Yes, we're business and ministry partners. 48:50 Okay, praise the Lord. I mean... 48:52 And not that be anything of there was, 48:54 I just need to deal with that. 48:55 Sure. Okay, praise the Lord. 48:56 Because every time I see you, I see you both. 48:58 But, because you are ministry together. 49:00 Let's just praise the Lord. 49:01 Okay, so we got that, we got that out of the way. 49:05 Your, your home church is what? 49:08 Well, my membership is at Babylon in Long Island. 49:11 And Ivan's is at Crossroads. Crossroads. 49:13 At Crossroads and next to the city. 49:15 At Milton, Manhattan. Yup, Times Square. 49:16 Okay, bless your heart. 49:17 But you live fairly close together? 49:19 Yes. Yes, 15 minutes away actually. 49:22 And given the kind of stuff you do, 49:23 you have to because your day starts 49:25 fairly early and, and goes on. 49:29 As you look back at the 2013 experience 49:32 and that's really what, 49:33 what sort of gave you your short 49:35 and I'm gonna get started. 49:39 You know, let me do this. 49:41 Let me hold on that question. 49:42 What I want to do, let me go to my newsbreak, 49:44 we'll do that newsbreak, 49:45 we'll come back and then we'll wrap this up 49:47 and I wanted to sort of go into this question real quick. 49:49 Let's go on our newsbreak now, then we'll come back 49:51 and we'll put a bow on this and we'll tie this up. |
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