I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to 3ABN.
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We are so glad
you're joining us today
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and I think we're going to
have an exciting interview,
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one that will
inspire you to believe in God
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as the one, not
only who created us
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but who will recreate
us in the image of Jesus.
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Before I introduce our guests,
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I would like to
read a scripture to you
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but before that
I even need to say,
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thank you so
much for your prayers
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and your
financial support of 3ABN
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because this is a team effort.
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But let me read a scripture
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that to me is
something that tells us
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about the state of all mankind
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and it will ring true with you.
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If you didn't grow
up knowing the Lord,
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this will ring so true with you
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that you will say amen and amen.
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And it's Ecclesiastes 3:11,"
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He, speaking of God,
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has made everything
beautiful in its time.
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Also He has put
eternity in their hearts,
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in the hearts of
his created beings,
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he has put eternity,
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except that no one
can find out the work
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that God does
from beginning to end."
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We'll never
quite understand God,
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His ways are
higher than our ways,
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His thoughts are
higher than our thoughts,
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but if you are
one of those people
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who has tried everything
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to fill the hole in your heart,
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who feels like what's going on,
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Lord, I'm never satisfied
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or you don't
know the Lord maybe.
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Maybe you've just tuned in,
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and this is the first
Christian broadcast you've seen.
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But, you know, that there's
something missing in your life,
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it's because God put
eternity in your heart.
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There is as people say,
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"A God shaped hole in our hearts
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that only God
can fill the void."
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Well, let me introduce
our special guests to you,
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and I'm very excited to have
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these two
distinguished gentlemen with us.
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First, we have Dr. Tim Standish.
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And, Dr. Standish,
may I call you Tim?
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You may as everybody else does.
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Okay.
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What is your PhD in?
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My PhD is in biology.
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Actually, I have a PhD
in environmental biology
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and public policy.
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So I'm interested in the way
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biology works
with other disciplines.
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How do we interface with things?
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How do we use this information?
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Amen. Amen. That's great.
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So you were with the
Geoscience Research Institute
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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and we're going to
learn a little more
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about this wonderful Institute
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that really
studies creation science
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with the
disciplines of biology, geology,
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paleontology and etcetera.
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So this is one smart man,
I'll just put it that way.
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Now, we have another
smart man on the set with us.
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What did you say?
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Be a smart alec. A smart alec.
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And that is Pastor
and Dr. John Kurlinski,
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and you're with the
Bremerton, Washington...
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Seventh-day Adventist Church,
currently as a pastor there.
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I've been there for
almost eight and a half years.
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Wonderful. Tell us
where that's located?
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That's located, if you take
a ferry right out of Seattle
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and you cross the Puget Sound
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then as you look back at Seattle
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and look ahead to
the Olympic Mountains,
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it's just one of the most
gorgeous times you can spend.
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And we're on Bremerton's
Naval Shipyards there
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where a lot of
carriers and subs get serviced
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and we have a church
there with lots of engineers
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and real brainy scientific type
people all around all the time.
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So you're used
to all of that, huh?
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Yeah.
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Let me ask this one question
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with all the fires in
Washington, are you...
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Is anything close to your area?
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Are you seeing
smoke? What's going on?
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We got some smoke
coming in now and then
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but that should
last rain or two,
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we've just
received our first rains
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of the end of the summer season.
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You get a
hundred days of sunshine
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and then the rains come
back and they seem to...
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When people
think of rainy Seattle,
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they think of
this time of the year
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that began just last week.
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But they cleared out the smoke
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but there are some
fires just across the cascades
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and just south of
the Seattle area ways,
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there were some fires
in the mountains there.
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And it did sock in the valley
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and there's
some up in Canada too
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that was coming down as well,
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so it was interesting.
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There is so much
going on in the world,
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it's just amazing to me that...
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I think of Luke
21:25-28 that says,
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"Men's hearts
will be failing them
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when as they see
these seas roaring,
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but it's time to look up,
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for our redemption draweth nigh.
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Well, before we get
into our conversation
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with these two
wonderful gentlemen,
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we are going to have some music
because we know you love music.
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And today we
have Johan, or Johan
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I should probably
say, Johan Sentana
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and he is going to play for us,
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"This Is My Father's World".
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Thank you, Johan,
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for that
beautiful, beautiful, number.
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We do believe this
is our father's world
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and we're here today to
talk about creation science.
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We're here today to
talk about creation Sabbath,
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and I'm going to just turn
it over to you, Tim, to start.
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Actually before we do
that, tell me a little bit
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about the
Geoscience Research Institute,
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when was it formed?
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And what is your main purpose?
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The Geoscience
Research Institute
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was formed in the 1950s,
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and at that particular time
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the Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and we were not alone in this.
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We were seeing these challenges
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to the history
that's recorded in scripture
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that were coming
from various sources
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but primarily
presenting themselves
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as scientific challenges
to the veracity of Scripture.
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Certainly.
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And so the Seventh-day
Adventist Church decided
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we need to have a
collection of scholars
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who really are thinking very
carefully about these things.
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We're no more
interested in being wrong
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than anybody else.
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So we want to examine
the, what are purporting
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at least to be scientific
claims that run counter
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to what's revealed
and recorded in Scripture.
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Primary among those challenges
was radiometric dating.
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Yes.
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And the idea then that
life particularly on earth
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is many hundreds of
millions of years old,
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billions of years of course
is what people believe now.
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And so this
collection of scholars
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was brought
together by the church.
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It's really an
investment by the church
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in making sure
that we are informed
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that we
understand the challenges
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and we understand the strengths
of the biblical position,
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which of course is
what we embrace completely.
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Amen, you know,
something that I've noticed
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is that like in archaeology
or any of the sciences,
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things that have been
purported in archaeology,
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and they have said that
certain things did not exist
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that the Bible has to be wrong
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and for centuries
people believe that.
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And then suddenly there will be
a new archaeological discovery
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and all of a
sudden, it's like, mm-hmm.
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The Bible said this
all along and it's true.
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So I don't think that
science proves the Bible,
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I think the
Bible proves science,
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and one thing about science
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is they change their mind
quite frequently, don't they?
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Well, I would agree with you.
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Scientific claims
are always tentative.
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It has to do with the nature
of the scientific process.
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If somebody says to you,
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such and such a thing has
been scientifically proven,
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there are only really
two possibilities there,
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the ignorance
of what science is,
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or they're trying to fool you.
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Those are the two
possibilities, now...
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Science is
theoretical in other words.
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Well, yes, but...
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you know, I
don't want to degrade
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the authority of science.
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Science is a method
for discovering things
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about the natural world,
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but nobody comes
to looking at nature,
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in a completely open minded
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and, you know, without
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a philosophical framework
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for doing that.
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In fact, this is one of things
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that John is quite expert
in the idea of a world view.
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So if you come in with
a materialistic worldview,
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one that denies the
possibility of anything
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other than the material world,
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you will explain
everything that you observe
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within the context
of that world view.
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When it comes to
materialism, Darwinism,
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the Darwinian sort of
story of common ancestry
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and change over time
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producing me and you,
and frogs, and oak trees,
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and everything else,
all other living things,
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that's the story
that you must get,
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no matter what
the fossils tell you,
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no matter what
the data tell you.
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The beautiful thing
about biblical Christianity
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is that it liberates
you to evaluate things
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really in a much less
biased way in my opinion.
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You can look at a rock
or pick on this one here.
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we're going to get to this later
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but it doesn't matter.
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I could look at a rock
like this particular one
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and I could say, well,
I mean, that's not a rock
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that was made in some very
specific way by a human being,
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you know, or a
designer going in there.
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And I'm free too to say
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that, that's just a
normal naturally produced rock.
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On the other hand, when I
look at this trilobite fossil
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that happens to be
attached to the rock.
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I'm also free...
What is a trilobite?
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A trilobite is,
it's a kind of...
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You can think of it as
being almost insect like.
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It's an extinct kind of creature
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that you find in
the fossil record,
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they're not living today.
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But it's like a
shrimp or a lobster
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or something in that
general group of organisms.
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And I can't study them today,
but I can look at the fossils,
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and as a Christian I can make
a judgment about these fossils.
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I can say, "Well, if it
looks like it's designed.
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I'm free to say, it
looks like it's designed."
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It looks like a created thing.
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If it doesn't, like the rock
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that it happens
to be attached to,
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I'm not forced to
say it's designed either,
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I have that freedom
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that I'm not
forced by my world view
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into coming to one
conclusion or another about it.
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It's one of the beautiful things
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about biblical Christianity,
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and in fact
believing in the creation.
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It doesn't restrict you
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and put binders on
you intellectually.
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It liberates you
to look at nature
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and make an evaluation about it.
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Obviously, we come in
with our own baggage out,
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we've got to understand that.
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But as long as we understand it,
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that's the best
we can possibly do.
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And I did not
mean to demean science,
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but I know recently I've
read, written, not written,
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I have read an article
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of an IT
scientist who has, he's a...
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I think he had a degree
in biology and IT, science
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and he was saying that,
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when you look at the
complexity of the cell
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that the human cell,
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that the information exchanged
just within a single cell
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is mind blowing.
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I mean, it's
millions of different signals
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that are being sent
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and he said, if that is
in the single cell organism,
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then you consider
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what it is to
look at a human being
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and all of the
information exchanged
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from cell to cell
and organ to organ.
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And he was saying that
there are many scientists
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who say there has to be a God.
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There's people
with the latest science
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that are disproving
Darwin's theory of evolution.
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So to me, that's
fascinating, I'm interested.
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Let me just ask you
a quick question, John.
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You have a doctorate in DMin.
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A Doctor of Ministry, correct.
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What was your dissertation
on how did you get this,
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you said you were a
world view expert, how did...?
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A little story,
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before I was raised in
a nominal Catholic home.
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By the time we got
into junior high school,
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went to public school.
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My dad died when I was 16.
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So I went into better living
through chemistry was our,
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with our, self-anesthetizing
the pain of life.
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But in the process I
was able to go to college
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on disability, social security,
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and I ended up
becoming a history major
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and so I studied history.
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To know what I wanted to
do maybe law something else
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or going in the Peace Corps,
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but over the course of events
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I began to look at life through
a history lens and sources.
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To me source
material was always important
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where things came
from and why it was,
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and to say should
be like your text said
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in Ecclesiastes
3:11, I had that hunger,
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that search for
something bigger, broader,
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more meaningful purpose
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and that's where the idea
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that everybody has these things.
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When I actually do
studies and seminars,
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I begin with Genesis
3:11, I mean, Ecclesiastes 3:11.
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Really. That's
the take home text.
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In honors class, I had
the privilege of writing
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for freshmen Bible,
00:19:22.62\00:19:25.53
basically begins with
this passage, you know.
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So we're searching for
greater realities in ourselves.
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My dissertation then
was the one area of history
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I never studied
and that was origins.
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They didn't offer
origins class in the seminary
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when I went
through the seminary,
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when I became a Christian,
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and so I linked
up with a gentleman
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Dr. Randy Younker
who was an archaeologist,
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who Tim actually has on
one of the Geoscience videos
00:19:50.02\00:19:54.66
that they offer there.
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And I was able to research
the area of my ignorance.
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I don't like
being ignorant, okay.
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But I do like to have
good reasons for what I believe
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that I can't
always sincerely prove
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but I can, that make more sense
00:20:08.90\00:20:11.77
in a world of nonsense.
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In the world
that you look around,
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you began the program,
00:20:14.91\00:20:16.24
you asked me about the
fires, or the earthquakes,
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the hurricanes,
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and people are searching
for trying to put all this data
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into some sort of
meaningful reality
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to fit their world view,
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and certain things don't
fit in this idea of God is good,
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how come this or how come that.
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And so that's
where the quest began.
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So my dissertation was
based on the idea of science
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began in a Christian world view.
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Most of your early scientists
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were Christian in
their faith world view.
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And why did they divorce
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and separate
from that world view
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as history went on.
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What caused the
scientists to flee
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and become
agnostic and atheistic,
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actually antichristian
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many of them in their
way of looking at reality?
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And I was
interested in that change
00:21:05.73\00:21:07.83
and what causes a change.
00:21:07.86\00:21:09.93
To make it to Doctor of Ministry
00:21:09.96\00:21:11.30
I have to think pragmatic
and practical like a seminar.
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So the
evolution, creation seminar
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was the natural venue,
00:21:17.17\00:21:19.47
and so Dr.
Younker worked with me
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on the philosophical
and historical elements.
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He was helping direct
myself to the research
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and the sources that
would help me find my answers,
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and then I would
develop the seminar
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on evolution and creation
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based on some of those answers
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and other areas of interest,
00:21:36.12\00:21:37.66
and that's where I came from
00:21:37.69\00:21:39.03
and how I
developed this deep interest.
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And I teamed up with a friend
00:21:41.20\00:21:42.66
who's also been seen
on 3ABN, Dr. Stan Hudson.
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And Stan and I
developed this seminar
00:21:46.47\00:21:48.80
that Stan has
developed even beyond anything
00:21:48.84\00:21:51.37
that was originally
my dissertation seminar
00:21:51.41\00:21:54.04
which developed into his
in the beginning seminar,
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and we've been both
doing these seminars
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for quite some time.
00:21:58.45\00:21:59.78
And then I expanded
more into world view
00:21:59.81\00:22:02.28
as I went into
teaching in college.
00:22:02.32\00:22:04.62
Actually I shouldn't say
this, I admit this on camera
00:22:04.65\00:22:08.42
but I envy the
opportunity you've had to study
00:22:08.46\00:22:13.13
because I know even
in just preparing for
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when I go out to do
an evangelistic series,
00:22:16.46\00:22:20.87
in preparing and looking at,
00:22:20.90\00:22:23.61
you know, the little
research that I've done.
00:22:23.64\00:22:26.81
I have seen so many times
00:22:26.84\00:22:29.14
that where the
sciences like archaeology
00:22:29.18\00:22:33.62
have been disproven,
00:22:33.65\00:22:34.98
and I think you
actually had an example of that
00:22:35.02\00:22:37.12
when I mentioned that
earlier in the green room
00:22:37.15\00:22:39.95
with the camels.
00:22:39.99\00:22:41.32
Yeah, that's ready under
my dissertation doctorate
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is a colleague, in a
sense, in this greater,
00:22:45.66\00:22:48.63
he teaches at the
Andrews Theological Seminary
00:22:48.66\00:22:51.20
and he teaches the class.
00:22:51.23\00:22:52.57
Tell us that story real quickly?
00:22:52.60\00:22:53.94
But tell that story.
00:22:53.97\00:22:55.30
Dr. Younker is the director
00:22:55.34\00:22:56.67
of the Horn
Archaeological Museum
00:22:56.71\00:22:58.04
in Michigan,
00:22:58.07\00:23:00.04
and I actually
produced a film about it,
00:23:00.08\00:23:05.95
it was fabulously fun to film.
00:23:05.98\00:23:07.78
We filmed in Jordan
and we were in Petra,
00:23:07.82\00:23:11.59
I actually got
into Petra when I was...
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I believe the only, at
least the only visitor there.
00:23:15.29\00:23:18.23
There may have been some
better one around or something
00:23:18.26\00:23:20.40
but I was the only...
00:23:20.43\00:23:21.76
It was
wonderful to do this thing
00:23:21.80\00:23:23.23
and out in Wadi Rum there.
00:23:23.26\00:23:25.40
And so but the
question that we were looking at
00:23:25.43\00:23:27.90
was this claim that
the Bible must not be true
00:23:27.94\00:23:32.87
because it talks
about Abraham having camels
00:23:32.91\00:23:38.61
and the people at
that time having camels.
00:23:38.65\00:23:41.18
The idea is or was
among archeologists,
00:23:41.22\00:23:46.15
that camels
were not domesticated
00:23:46.19\00:23:49.02
at that
particular point in history.
00:23:49.06\00:23:51.09
So therefore, Abraham
could not have had them,
00:23:51.13\00:23:54.56
and therefore
the Bible isn't true.
00:23:54.60\00:23:57.60
These are stories
that were perhaps modified
00:23:57.63\00:24:00.20
passed on over the eons
00:24:00.24\00:24:02.04
and maybe they were
written down some time
00:24:02.07\00:24:03.84
not that long
before the time of Christ.
00:24:03.87\00:24:06.47
So that's, that was
the challenge there.
00:24:06.51\00:24:11.15
Dr. Younker found what
is considered to be the...
00:24:11.18\00:24:15.88
I mean, at least I
would consider it to be
00:24:15.92\00:24:17.65
the gold standard when
it comes to archeology.
00:24:17.69\00:24:21.86
A whole set of data
00:24:21.89\00:24:24.13
that all point toward
the domestication of camels,
00:24:24.16\00:24:27.96
and specifically what he found
00:24:28.00\00:24:30.57
on the Sinai Peninsula
00:24:30.60\00:24:35.07
there, out in the
desert were petroglyphs,
00:24:35.10\00:24:38.24
petroglyphs of these images
00:24:38.27\00:24:39.87
that people were
putting into rocks at the time.
00:24:39.91\00:24:42.04
So petroglyph showing an
individual leading camels,
00:24:42.08\00:24:47.05
so there's a man
leading a camel train
00:24:47.08\00:24:50.15
and right there
associated with the petroglyph
00:24:50.19\00:24:53.92
is the name of a pharaoh,
00:24:53.96\00:24:56.93
like the pharaoh's signature
you can almost think of.
00:24:56.96\00:25:00.10
The name of the pharaoh
00:25:00.13\00:25:01.56
and we know exactly
when that pharaoh lived.
00:25:01.60\00:25:05.23
It happens to have been
around the time of Abraham.
00:25:05.27\00:25:08.00
So there's a man leading camels
00:25:08.04\00:25:10.11
associated with
this very datable thing,
00:25:10.14\00:25:12.91
but in addition to that,
00:25:12.94\00:25:14.44
this is in an
archaeological context
00:25:14.48\00:25:17.61
to do with mining in that area,
00:25:17.65\00:25:20.65
that is all consistent
with the time of Abraham.
00:25:20.68\00:25:24.85
And then you can
look at other things
00:25:24.89\00:25:26.49
like the patina
on these petroglyphs.
00:25:26.52\00:25:30.99
It's the same on
the pharaoh's name
00:25:31.03\00:25:34.43
as it is on the camels
00:25:34.46\00:25:39.27
and the man leading the camels.
00:25:39.30\00:25:41.14
It's all the
same, it all matches up
00:25:41.17\00:25:43.04
and it all points
towards domesticated camels
00:25:43.07\00:25:46.88
at the time of Abraham.
00:25:46.91\00:25:49.64
And of course, being a
professional archaeologist
00:25:49.68\00:25:52.85
Dr. Younker has published
this in the professional
00:25:52.88\00:25:56.55
peer reviewed
archeological literature
00:25:56.58\00:26:00.86
demonstrating that at
least that particular challenge
00:26:00.89\00:26:04.89
to the history
that's recorded in Scripture
00:26:04.93\00:26:07.96
and that is what Scripture is.
00:26:08.00\00:26:09.40
At least in one
sense, a record of history
00:26:09.43\00:26:13.40
that has proven to be
extraordinarily accurate.
00:26:13.44\00:26:17.01
Yeah, I know we need
to get on to our topic
00:26:17.04\00:26:19.34
but I just think of how long,
00:26:19.37\00:26:21.64
how many hundreds of years
00:26:21.68\00:26:23.21
archaeologists were
saying David didn't exist.
00:26:23.24\00:26:26.41
And, you know, just
recently when was that,
00:26:26.45\00:26:28.78
12 years ago or
not even that long ago?
00:26:28.82\00:26:31.35
But just recently they
have found proof of David
00:26:31.39\00:26:36.52
and so it's something...
00:26:36.56\00:26:37.99
I've actually seen that.
00:26:38.03\00:26:39.56
It's so real, it's
so exciting to see.
00:26:39.59\00:26:42.66
I've been to the place
00:26:42.70\00:26:44.03
where they
discovered it there in Israel,
00:26:44.07\00:26:45.53
what an incredible thing, yeah.
00:26:45.57\00:26:47.50
Yeah. It's extremely exciting.
00:26:47.54\00:26:50.17
It goes into the idea of
we all are looking at life
00:26:50.21\00:26:54.18
and trying to make sense of it
00:26:54.21\00:26:55.54
and support our world view,
00:26:55.58\00:26:57.11
and this is
saying you know what?
00:26:57.15\00:26:58.48
We're not crazy if we believe
this Bible says these things
00:26:58.51\00:27:01.48
it happened when they
did, with who they did.
00:27:01.52\00:27:03.62
We're finding
more and more evidence
00:27:03.65\00:27:05.09
to make our faith reasonable.
00:27:05.12\00:27:07.29
Absolutely.
00:27:07.32\00:27:08.66
And gives us more
assurance in our walk,
00:27:08.69\00:27:10.19
in our orientation of who we are
00:27:10.23\00:27:12.59
and why we exist
in the first place,
00:27:12.63\00:27:14.56
which gets back to
creation or our creator.
00:27:14.60\00:27:17.50
That's one of the
things that excites me
00:27:17.53\00:27:19.53
about Christianity in general.
00:27:19.57\00:27:21.80
Christianity isn't some sort of
00:27:21.84\00:27:23.81
theoretical airy
fairy myth based religion.
00:27:23.84\00:27:28.54
Christianity is
about real things
00:27:28.58\00:27:32.01
that really happened
over the course of history,
00:27:32.05\00:27:35.75
real things that
will happen in the future.
00:27:35.78\00:27:39.29
It's not a sort of
philosophical construct
00:27:39.32\00:27:43.32
about the way things
should be or shouldn't be or...
00:27:43.36\00:27:46.63
it's real, it's tangible.
00:27:46.66\00:27:49.30
It's about stuff that
you can touch and feel
00:27:49.33\00:27:51.73
and maybe because I'm a
scientist that excites me.
00:27:51.77\00:27:56.10
Personally, I think
that should excite everybody
00:27:56.14\00:27:58.84
because there's
one thing to have
00:27:58.87\00:28:01.18
a philosophy or a theory,
00:28:01.21\00:28:03.85
but when you have
real proof of the truth
00:28:03.88\00:28:09.28
as you said the
veracity of the Scripture.
00:28:09.32\00:28:11.52
And when we see all of
these prophetic timelines
00:28:11.55\00:28:15.16
and the different prophecies
that have been fulfilled,
00:28:15.19\00:28:19.96
it gives us such great hope,
00:28:20.00\00:28:23.03
and I don't mean hope
like, oh, wishy-washy hope.
00:28:23.06\00:28:25.97
I mean it gives us
an eager expectation
00:28:26.00\00:28:29.77
that God's word
is going to happen
00:28:29.80\00:28:32.84
just as he has said it happen.
00:28:32.87\00:28:35.11
He is the God who sees
the end from the beginning,
00:28:35.14\00:28:37.78
He is the creator of
all things and, you know...
00:28:37.81\00:28:41.15
He's the rock of our salvation.
00:28:41.18\00:28:42.72
The rock of our salvation.
00:28:42.75\00:28:44.32
I love it. It's so solid. Amen.
00:28:44.35\00:28:47.06
It's so solid.
00:28:47.09\00:28:48.42
Jesus Christ is our Creator.
00:28:48.46\00:28:50.79
He really did create us.
00:28:50.83\00:28:54.06
And, you know, when
you look back at the sin
00:28:54.10\00:28:57.83
and then the fall of Satan,
00:28:57.87\00:29:00.04
you think about the
question that Satan raised
00:29:00.07\00:29:04.54
was does God
really have the authority
00:29:04.57\00:29:11.38
to rule over His created beings?
00:29:11.41\00:29:14.05
I mean, I have no doubt
00:29:14.08\00:29:15.42
that Satan
believes in God as creator,
00:29:15.45\00:29:17.09
but he
challenged God's authority.
00:29:17.12\00:29:19.32
Now as Seventh-day Adventists,
00:29:19.35\00:29:21.39
we believe in
the authority of God.
00:29:21.42\00:29:24.19
We find it, we want to
get to the Ten Commandments.
00:29:24.23\00:29:27.23
We find this scripture,
00:29:27.26\00:29:30.00
the fourth
commandment in Exodus 20,
00:29:30.03\00:29:33.60
we find the very imprint
of God in this scripture.
00:29:33.64\00:29:37.57
I'm going to let
you, Tim, read that for us
00:29:37.61\00:29:41.41
because we are a
commandment keeping people
00:29:41.44\00:29:45.75
because we do believe in God.
00:29:45.78\00:29:48.05
And not only is He our creator,
00:29:48.08\00:29:51.85
but He's the
one who recreates us
00:29:51.89\00:29:53.66
in the image of Jesus.
00:29:53.69\00:29:55.39
Yeah.
00:29:55.42\00:29:56.76
I know that you
shouldn't have favorites
00:29:56.79\00:29:58.13
when it comes to
the commandments,
00:29:58.16\00:29:59.49
but the fourth commandment
is such a beautiful thing.
00:29:59.53\00:30:03.77
I'll read it from
the King James Version
00:30:03.80\00:30:05.33
because it's the most
beautiful English translation
00:30:05.37\00:30:08.70
but it says here, "Remember,
00:30:08.74\00:30:12.04
remember the Sabbath
day, to keep it holy.
00:30:12.07\00:30:15.08
Six days shalt thou
labor, and do all thy work:
00:30:15.11\00:30:18.98
But the seventh day
00:30:19.01\00:30:20.55
is the Sabbath
of the Lord thy God:
00:30:20.58\00:30:23.18
in it thou
shalt not do any work,
00:30:23.22\00:30:26.05
thou, nor thy
son, nor thy daughter,
00:30:26.09\00:30:29.22
thy manservant,
nor thy maidservant,
00:30:29.26\00:30:31.56
nor thy cattle."
00:30:31.59\00:30:33.63
Not even animals to work.
00:30:33.66\00:30:36.03
God gives rest to everybody,
the creator brings us rest.
00:30:36.06\00:30:41.80
"Nor the stranger that
is within thy gates for."
00:30:41.84\00:30:45.61
And it explains why,
00:30:45.64\00:30:47.08
"For in six days the
Lord made heaven and earth,
00:30:47.11\00:30:51.48
the sea, and all that is in them
00:30:51.51\00:30:54.75
and rested on the seventh day:
00:30:54.78\00:30:58.15
wherefore, the Lord
blessed the Sabbath day,
00:30:58.19\00:30:59.82
and hallowed it."
00:30:59.85\00:31:01.36
What I really
appreciate about it,
00:31:01.39\00:31:02.72
it goes not only into
his power and authority
00:31:02.76\00:31:06.49
by just the sheer right
of what he has able to do.
00:31:06.53\00:31:10.87
It says he keeps it,
00:31:10.90\00:31:12.47
He invites us to keep it with...
00:31:12.50\00:31:14.54
it also there is in
this commandment is also
00:31:14.57\00:31:19.37
a hinting toward the character
of the one who can do this.
00:31:19.41\00:31:23.51
And He invites us
into sharing time with Him
00:31:23.55\00:31:27.58
that He is set apart.
00:31:27.62\00:31:28.95
And He says,
"Keep the date with Me.
00:31:28.98\00:31:31.32
I want to enter more
fully with you on this day.
00:31:31.35\00:31:34.36
I'm going to meet you.
00:31:34.39\00:31:35.72
I'm going to
spend time with you.
00:31:35.76\00:31:37.23
We're going to relish
life together that I made."
00:31:37.26\00:31:41.53
And this is the
day that He promises
00:31:41.56\00:31:43.73
rest from the ordinary,
00:31:43.77\00:31:46.84
from the life that as
usual to bring it up a notch,
00:31:46.87\00:31:50.84
so to speak rhythmically.
00:31:50.87\00:31:52.71
This is the kind of God He is,
00:31:52.74\00:31:54.74
it speaks not
only to His ability
00:31:54.78\00:31:56.14
but to His character.
00:31:56.18\00:31:57.51
He invites us all
to just enter into it,
00:31:57.55\00:32:00.08
and then you go into the
Deuteronomy version of it
00:32:00.12\00:32:02.65
and it tells us,
not only can I...
00:32:02.68\00:32:05.49
I want you to keep
it, I'm your keeper
00:32:05.52\00:32:07.82
who sustains you and cares
about a world that is fallen.
00:32:07.86\00:32:12.69
Amen. I'm going to redeem it.
00:32:12.73\00:32:14.90
I'm going to deliver you,
and so it talks of deliverance,
00:32:14.93\00:32:18.00
and He's the
savior of this world
00:32:18.03\00:32:20.04
He already has made.
00:32:20.07\00:32:22.60
And so God
doesn't look at this world
00:32:22.64\00:32:25.17
that is suffering through
like we began the program
00:32:25.21\00:32:28.38
with the
hurricanes and the disasters,
00:32:28.41\00:32:31.21
and looks kind
of absent mindedly
00:32:31.25\00:32:33.35
sitting back one so day a week.
00:32:33.38\00:32:35.32
He is actively
according to Jesus' own
00:32:35.35\00:32:38.95
illustrations
of Sabbath keeping,
00:32:38.99\00:32:40.76
trying to redeem, and heal,
and restore the brokenness.
00:32:40.79\00:32:44.83
Even now, He wants to make sure
00:32:44.86\00:32:47.10
that He's not indifferent
to the suffering of this world.
00:32:47.13\00:32:50.50
He is its keeper and its maker,
00:32:50.53\00:32:52.60
that's the kind of
being we worship as a creator.
00:32:52.63\00:32:55.77
You know, I think of 1 John 4:16
00:32:55.80\00:32:57.61
where John wrote,
00:32:57.64\00:32:58.97
"We have come
to believe and know
00:32:59.01\00:33:02.04
that God loves us."
00:33:02.08\00:33:03.45
You know, for God is love.
00:33:03.48\00:33:05.01
We know this love
that God has for us,
00:33:05.05\00:33:07.58
God is love and
those who abide in love,
00:33:07.62\00:33:10.15
abide in Him, and He in them.
00:33:10.19\00:33:12.85
I grew up having a love
affair with Jesus Christ
00:33:12.89\00:33:16.06
because I knew He died for me,
00:33:16.09\00:33:17.59
but I was "I grew
up in a denomination
00:33:17.63\00:33:20.40
that was considered a
New Testament church."
00:33:20.43\00:33:22.93
So my view of the Father
was that He was ready to just,
00:33:22.96\00:33:29.10
you know, He
was just watching me
00:33:29.14\00:33:30.84
ready to zap me
when I made a mistake.
00:33:30.87\00:33:33.34
And it was the
Sabbath that changed that
00:33:33.38\00:33:37.08
because one of my
favorite scriptures
00:33:37.11\00:33:39.81
on the Sabbath is
Exodus 31:13 where he says,
00:33:39.85\00:33:43.65
"The Sabbath is a
sign that I am the God
00:33:43.69\00:33:47.02
who sanctifies you."
00:33:47.06\00:33:48.79
In other words,
00:33:48.82\00:33:50.16
it's all by
grace even obedience,
00:33:50.19\00:33:51.89
God is going to work in us
00:33:51.93\00:33:53.46
to will and to do
His good pleasure,
00:33:53.50\00:33:55.70
and He doesn't ask us
to earn our salvation.
00:33:55.73\00:33:58.87
So if you are watching
this program and you think,
00:33:58.90\00:34:01.60
how can those people be
talking about the Sabbath
00:34:01.64\00:34:03.87
because that's legalism.
00:34:03.91\00:34:05.77
No, that's total freedom
in Christ and we've got...
00:34:05.81\00:34:10.08
It's all about relationship.
00:34:10.11\00:34:12.11
And we're going to talk about
celebrating a creation Sabbath.
00:34:12.15\00:34:16.28
That's right.
00:34:16.32\00:34:18.72
In the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:34:18.75\00:34:20.66
obviously, every
Sabbath we are remembering
00:34:20.69\00:34:26.90
the God is our
creator and our redeemer.
00:34:26.93\00:34:30.07
I mean, if He
wasn't our creator,
00:34:30.10\00:34:32.27
how could He redeem us?
00:34:32.30\00:34:33.64
How could He
promise us a new creation?
00:34:33.67\00:34:36.64
How could He promise
to make us new creatures,
00:34:36.67\00:34:39.61
if He didn't do it
in the first place?
00:34:39.64\00:34:41.94
That's right.
00:34:41.98\00:34:43.71
But it does turn out
00:34:43.75\00:34:45.08
that we actually
in our church calendar
00:34:45.11\00:34:48.48
have a special creation Sabbath,
00:34:48.52\00:34:51.55
it's at the end of
October every year.
00:34:51.59\00:34:54.92
And it's not just for us,
00:34:54.96\00:34:56.52
anybody can celebrate
this beautiful thing with us,
00:34:56.56\00:35:01.00
any Seventh-day
Adventist church could do.
00:35:01.03\00:35:02.60
Hey, you know what?
00:35:02.63\00:35:03.97
Any other denomination,
00:35:04.00\00:35:05.33
any church is more than welcome
00:35:05.37\00:35:07.94
to celebrate this
absolutely wonderful thing.
00:35:07.97\00:35:12.81
And, you know,
this business of the,
00:35:12.84\00:35:17.41
you know,
somehow out of the law,
00:35:17.45\00:35:20.12
the Ten Commandments
00:35:20.15\00:35:21.82
being done away
with at the cross
00:35:21.85\00:35:24.35
it's such an unfortunate thing.
00:35:24.39\00:35:26.15
One of the things
you mentioned Exodus 31,
00:35:26.19\00:35:29.26
and what jumped
to mind there for me
00:35:29.29\00:35:31.23
was that actually
the fourth commandment
00:35:31.26\00:35:32.96
is repeated there.
00:35:32.99\00:35:34.96
And I want to draw
your attention to verse...
00:35:35.00\00:35:38.47
to verse 17...
00:35:38.50\00:35:42.20
no, verse 16.
00:35:42.24\00:35:43.81
We'll start there
at Exodus 31, it says,
00:35:43.84\00:35:46.78
"Wherefore the
children of Israel
00:35:46.81\00:35:48.94
shall keep the Sabbath,
00:35:48.98\00:35:50.31
to observe the Sabbath
throughout their generations,
00:35:50.35\00:35:54.08
for a perpetual covenant."
00:35:54.12\00:35:58.05
A perpetual
covenant, forever, forever,
00:35:58.09\00:36:02.09
that's what perpetual means.
00:36:02.12\00:36:04.06
Jesus Christ dying on the cross
00:36:04.09\00:36:07.03
made us all
children of Abraham and...
00:36:07.06\00:36:11.53
Absolutely.
00:36:11.57\00:36:12.90
You know, sons of the promise.
00:36:12.93\00:36:15.00
And this is the
covenant, this is it,
00:36:15.04\00:36:18.04
what kind of
God is this any way?
00:36:18.07\00:36:20.44
This is a God who gives us...
00:36:20.48\00:36:22.71
Who says,
"Worship Me by resting."
00:36:22.74\00:36:26.51
Amen. What kind of God is that?
00:36:26.55\00:36:28.08
Other gods don't do that.
00:36:28.12\00:36:29.45
They demand things,
00:36:29.48\00:36:30.82
they want your
stuff, they want your...
00:36:30.85\00:36:32.69
You have to earn your way too.
00:36:32.72\00:36:34.62
You got to make him happy.
00:36:34.66\00:36:36.09
It's grace in the most,
00:36:36.12\00:36:39.23
it just, it leaves you
breathless, doesn't it?
00:36:39.26\00:36:41.30
It does. It's a beautiful thing.
00:36:41.33\00:36:42.86
So I am proud to be
part of a denomination
00:36:42.90\00:36:46.07
that sets aside
00:36:46.10\00:36:47.80
creation Sabbath every year
00:36:47.84\00:36:50.17
to absolutely refocus,
00:36:50.21\00:36:53.14
remind ourselves
that God is our creator,
00:36:53.17\00:36:59.38
God is our redeemer,
00:36:59.41\00:37:02.02
God is beyond our imagination,
00:37:02.05\00:37:07.09
we can never plum the
depths of what's there,
00:37:07.12\00:37:09.69
that was what
was going on there.
00:37:09.72\00:37:11.86
I love
Ecclesiastes 3:11 as well,
00:37:11.89\00:37:17.00
and my favorite bit is the bit
at the end there were it says,
00:37:17.03\00:37:20.27
"It is forever."
We'll never know everything.
00:37:20.30\00:37:24.51
The depts. Yeah.
00:37:24.54\00:37:26.24
There's always going to
be something new to find out,
00:37:26.27\00:37:28.58
something fascinating,
00:37:28.61\00:37:29.98
something
beautiful that's there for us
00:37:30.01\00:37:33.31
that God's been
there, He's infinite,
00:37:33.35\00:37:36.32
He's ahead of us with this.
00:37:36.35\00:37:38.09
And always will be. Yes.
00:37:38.12\00:37:40.29
It's just the
most wonderful thing.
00:37:40.32\00:37:42.49
And sometimes you meet people
00:37:42.52\00:37:43.89
who believe they
know everything already,
00:37:43.93\00:37:45.99
what a terrible
state to be here,
00:37:46.03\00:37:47.76
and how horrible to be
stuck in a room with them.
00:37:47.80\00:37:52.77
How wonderful Christianity
is with Jesus Christ
00:37:52.80\00:37:56.14
our creator and
redeemer at the center,
00:37:56.17\00:37:59.14
and that is where
creation Sabbath comes from.
00:37:59.17\00:38:03.68
This desire to worship
00:38:03.71\00:38:08.55
and just re-embrace,
00:38:08.58\00:38:10.99
re-remind
ourselves once again at this
00:38:11.02\00:38:13.82
profound
beautiful liberating truth.
00:38:13.86\00:38:17.69
And now you have
created a resource
00:38:17.73\00:38:21.90
that we want to make
sure we have time to show you.
00:38:21.93\00:38:24.50
Our time is flying,
00:38:24.53\00:38:26.00
but tell us about this
resource and what is it titled?
00:38:26.03\00:38:31.11
It's entitled "The Hole",
00:38:31.14\00:38:33.41
and I think it doesn't really
take a lot of explanation,
00:38:33.44\00:38:36.95
it's for anybody
who wants to share
00:38:36.98\00:38:39.48
about creation Sabbath
or the creation in general,
00:38:39.51\00:38:42.48
anybody is welcome
to use this resource.
00:38:42.52\00:38:47.09
You can share it on Facebook,
00:38:47.12\00:38:48.49
you can point to
your friends to it.
00:38:48.52\00:38:50.89
Social media is a
great way of sharing it.
00:38:50.93\00:38:52.99
It's short, it's
only five minutes,
00:38:53.03\00:38:55.16
and it is
centered on the gospel.
00:38:55.20\00:38:57.93
Let's look at
it. Amen. Let's do.
00:38:57.97\00:39:00.14
There is a hole in the universe
00:39:08.24\00:39:10.65
and it threatens each of
us with its destructive power.
00:39:10.68\00:39:14.25
I'm not talking about
00:39:21.09\00:39:22.42
the mysterious black hole
in the center of our galaxy
00:39:22.46\00:39:25.06
that devours
everything around it
00:39:25.09\00:39:26.96
in the whirlpool of gravity.
00:39:27.00\00:39:30.73
Or the supervoid, a
cold barren cavern in space,
00:39:30.77\00:39:34.77
so massive it drains energy
00:39:34.80\00:39:37.11
from any light
that passes through.
00:39:37.14\00:39:40.94
No, this hole so
potentially dangerous
00:39:40.98\00:39:44.28
is located much closer to home.
00:39:44.31\00:39:47.98
For deep within
every human heart,
00:39:48.02\00:39:50.79
there is a spiritual
void and a haunting emptiness
00:39:50.82\00:39:54.29
that breeds anxiety,
discouragement, fear,
00:39:54.32\00:39:58.26
and an unquenched longing
for true happiness and purpose.
00:39:58.29\00:40:04.37
The philosopher Pascal
called it the infinite abyss,
00:40:04.40\00:40:09.20
and it's a vacuum we try to fill
00:40:09.24\00:40:11.54
in a thousand different ways.
00:40:11.57\00:40:13.48
We race through
life in frantic pursuit
00:40:20.12\00:40:22.65
of material
possessions, financial security,
00:40:22.68\00:40:25.75
meaningful jobs, entertainment,
personal recognition,
00:40:25.79\00:40:29.79
and escape from the pain
and struggles of everyday life.
00:40:29.82\00:40:34.56
But each of these attempts
is at best a temporary fix,
00:40:34.60\00:40:39.13
for the hole in our hearts
00:40:39.17\00:40:40.64
can never be
permanently satisfied
00:40:40.67\00:40:43.04
by any created thing.
00:40:43.07\00:40:44.97
Two thousand years ago,
00:40:49.88\00:40:51.51
God entered the world
to fill the hole forever.
00:40:51.55\00:40:56.65
His solution, a
death and resurrection
00:40:56.69\00:40:59.89
with the power to
transform our lives.
00:40:59.92\00:41:04.06
Now that's a
difficult concept to grasp,
00:41:04.09\00:41:06.73
but maybe this will help.
00:41:06.76\00:41:09.86
In the original
Greek of the New Testament,
00:41:09.90\00:41:12.43
the word for
transformation is metamorphose.
00:41:12.47\00:41:17.77
It is the root
of the English word
00:41:17.81\00:41:19.71
metamorphosis,
00:41:19.74\00:41:21.34
the term used for
an extraordinary event
00:41:21.38\00:41:23.68
that occurs in nature.
00:41:23.71\00:41:25.28
A caterpillar
earthbound, painfully slow,
00:41:29.85\00:41:33.22
and virtually blind
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.39
inches its way through
life for a few short weeks
00:41:35.42\00:41:39.19
then encases
itself within a chrysalis.
00:41:39.23\00:41:43.77
Here inside a paper thin shell
00:41:43.80\00:41:46.10
the caterpillar's body
is broken down cell by cell.
00:41:46.13\00:41:50.71
This is no death wish,
00:41:50.74\00:41:52.97
instead, the
insects deconstruction
00:41:53.01\00:41:55.91
is the gateway to an
entirely new way of living.
00:41:55.94\00:41:59.35
In a matter of days,
00:42:05.29\00:42:06.69
the biological
structure of the caterpillar
00:42:06.72\00:42:08.92
is completely rearranged
00:42:08.96\00:42:11.33
and the results
are breathtaking.
00:42:11.36\00:42:13.46
This incredible
change is a metaphor
00:42:23.91\00:42:26.81
for an even
greater transformation
00:42:26.84\00:42:29.04
God can perform in each of us,
00:42:29.08\00:42:32.11
the metamorphosis of
our heart, mind, and spirit.
00:42:32.15\00:42:37.22
Just consider His
promises to anyone
00:42:37.25\00:42:40.06
who turns from sin
00:42:40.09\00:42:41.49
and accepts His
gift of salvation.
00:42:41.52\00:42:43.59
And the Lord said,
00:42:47.00\00:42:48.33
"Look, I am
making everything new.
00:42:48.36\00:42:52.40
I will replace
your heart of stone
00:42:52.43\00:42:54.47
with a heart that
is sensitive to me.
00:42:54.50\00:42:57.61
I will renew your mind
00:42:57.64\00:42:59.31
and give you a
future filled with hope.
00:42:59.34\00:43:02.81
Come, you who are
weary and I will give rest.
00:43:02.84\00:43:08.08
For I know your hardships
and care about your sufferings.
00:43:08.12\00:43:13.79
I will be your safe
place in times of trial.
00:43:13.82\00:43:18.49
I will forgive your sins
and remember them no more.
00:43:18.53\00:43:23.90
In this world,
00:43:23.93\00:43:25.27
you will have
trouble but take heart.
00:43:25.30\00:43:29.34
I have overcome the world."
00:43:29.37\00:43:31.47
You know, now
that was advertising
00:43:59.97\00:44:02.14
at the end next year,
00:44:02.17\00:44:03.81
but this year
it's October the...
00:44:03.84\00:44:05.87
October 28th this year
in 2017 is Creation Sabbath
00:44:05.91\00:44:10.78
and there will be
churches around the world.
00:44:10.81\00:44:14.18
Pretty much anywhere,
anybody is watching this,
00:44:14.22\00:44:16.08
if you can find a
Seventh-day Adventist church,
00:44:16.12\00:44:18.69
you should find
people celebrating creation.
00:44:18.72\00:44:21.39
Give a call and ask
them what they're doing.
00:44:21.42\00:44:24.39
And, you know, if
maybe you live in an area
00:44:24.43\00:44:26.76
and you're
saying, you may even be
00:44:26.80\00:44:28.26
a Seventh-day Adventist and say,
00:44:28.30\00:44:29.63
I haven't heard of this,
00:44:29.66\00:44:31.00
they've been doing
that since what, 2009?
00:44:31.03\00:44:32.67
2009, yes.
00:44:32.70\00:44:34.50
If your church hasn't
yet participated in this,
00:44:34.54\00:44:38.57
then this is
something that first it.
00:44:38.61\00:44:40.28
That's an incredible
resource that we just saw,
00:44:40.31\00:44:42.94
what a beautiful
and inspiring film.
00:44:42.98\00:44:45.88
And you can get
this, you can download it,
00:44:45.91\00:44:49.25
you can post it to
the web, and you do...
00:44:49.28\00:44:52.32
How do we... The
easiest way to get this?
00:44:52.35\00:44:54.42
I think the easiest way
00:44:54.46\00:44:55.79
is probably to go
to creationsabbath.net.
00:44:55.82\00:44:59.76
No spaces or anything,
just creationsabbath.net
00:44:59.79\00:45:03.63
and it will be there
readily available for you
00:45:03.67\00:45:07.37
to use in any
way that you see fit.
00:45:07.40\00:45:10.57
So I want to encourage
you to get this resource
00:45:10.61\00:45:14.51
and start using it.
00:45:14.54\00:45:16.88
We want to get it
out before October 28th.
00:45:16.91\00:45:19.75
So start using this, put
it on your Facebook page.
00:45:19.78\00:45:25.05
You can talk about it on Twitter
00:45:25.09\00:45:26.55
and send people
somewhere to see it.
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Get it up on your YouTube,
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whatever, get
this resource out there
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because this is a message.
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Even if somebody isn't coming
to church for Creation Sabbath,
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it's a message that
makes people realize,
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"Yes, there is a
hole in my heart.
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Yes, this is the infinite abyss
00:45:42.70\00:45:44.94
that I can't find
anything to fill."
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And it points them
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in the
direction of Jesus Christ.
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So I really want
to encourage you.
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Now I know that you
worked on this project,
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but who was it that put together
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such a beautiful pics for you?
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I want to give huge credit
to Lad Allen and Jerry Harnad.
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These guys are the, I believe
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the most fabulous Christian
filmmakers living today.
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They're incredible.
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And I'll just give this
particular example here.
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This is a film
called metamorphosis.
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If you, if
anybody who's interested
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in design and beauty in nature
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can purchase this film.
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It's available on Amazon.com
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or you can go to
illustramedia.com
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and get it there.
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It's readily available.
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And it is beautiful
talking about the design
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and the miracle that goes
on during that metamorphosis.
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It's gorgeous.
00:46:42.10\00:46:45.10
And it's filmed in
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lots of
interesting different places,
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it talks about more of that,
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this incredible
migration that these...
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And this metamorphosis
when we think of Romans 12:2
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where God talks
about the transformation,
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how He's going to renew
our mind and transform us.
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This is the word
metamorphose in the Greek
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and this is all about
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the caterpillar to the
butterfly stage, right?
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Yes. It's gorgeous.
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So you have several
here, you've got Metamorphose,
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Living Waters and then
One on Flight with Jesus.
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In that particular big one
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we've got the more
collected together,
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we call them the
design of life collection.
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And that's illustra,
i-l-l-u-s-t-r-a media.
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Yes. Okay.
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We have just a
few short minutes.
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You've got something else
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that you are working on a
new film, tell us about it?
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Oh, yeah, there's always
something new in the works.
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Before Creation Sabbath,
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this year we're
going to be releasing one
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in this series we
call Seeking Understanding.
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And I should tell
you, any of these ones
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like the one
that we talked about
00:47:53.57\00:47:54.90
earlier about Dr. Randy Younker,
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these are all available
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at the Geoscience
Research Institute website.
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It's just grisda.org.
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Anyone can go there
and watch these for free.
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The new one that
we're going to release
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is about a scientist
named Isabel de Moraes,
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wonderful, amazing woman
of incredible personal story.
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She studies the
molecular make up of proteins
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that are found in cell surfaces.
00:48:26.84\00:48:29.80
It's breathtaking.
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As a scientist, when I
looked at what she was doing,
00:48:31.31\00:48:34.08
when I initially
I heard about it,
00:48:34.11\00:48:35.74
my first thought was,
"No, that's impossible."
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It's amazing, she
does this work inside
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a gigantic synchrotron
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just outside of
Oxford in Britain.
00:48:45.05\00:48:47.22
Her personal story
growing up in a family
00:48:47.26\00:48:50.03
where Christ was not honored
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and her experience being
00:48:52.59\00:48:57.17
physically handicapped as well,
00:48:57.20\00:49:00.00
and the way that God used her.
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Here she is one of the
leading scientists in the world,
00:49:02.77\00:49:06.07
she looks at these
proteins and sees creation.
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But this is done in such a way
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that not only would it
appeal to a scientific mind,
00:49:12.38\00:49:15.22
but it is going to
appeal to the average person.
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These videos that
have been produced,
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you know, when we
talk, I want to encourage
00:49:22.06\00:49:23.53
all the pastors
Adventist pastors
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who may not have
given this creation Sabbath
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enough impetus.
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I want them to think
about planning the entire,
00:49:29.93\00:49:32.30
not just a day
but the whole Sabbath.
00:49:32.33\00:49:34.37
Start on a Friday
night, show these videos,
00:49:34.40\00:49:38.34
have a place where you can
sit and show Living Waters,
00:49:38.37\00:49:41.84
and Metamorphosis,
00:49:41.88\00:49:43.21
and then and
have discussions about
00:49:43.24\00:49:44.85
why people are where they are
00:49:44.88\00:49:46.61
and what they're
going to do with their life.
00:49:46.65\00:49:50.02
What else do you
want to talk about,
00:49:50.05\00:49:51.59
you know, it becomes
a relationship starter
00:49:51.62\00:49:54.09
because in the end
00:49:54.12\00:49:55.46
God is all about
those relationships
00:49:55.49\00:49:56.89
and He wants us to
be able to find safe,
00:49:56.93\00:50:00.53
wonderful venues to
contemplate grand realities.
00:50:00.56\00:50:03.43
And I think our churches
can be the natural venue
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to show these
kinds of productions.
00:50:06.97\00:50:09.47
You can go on the
website and download them,
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it's very accessible,
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and I just want
to encourage people
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to really engage in
these kinds of ministries
00:50:14.44\00:50:18.65
and apply it to their
life in this day and age
00:50:18.68\00:50:21.32
which is crying out for it.
00:50:21.35\00:50:22.98
Amen, and, John, I
know you personally,
00:50:23.02\00:50:24.95
you told me earlier
00:50:24.99\00:50:26.32
that you use these
frequently in your church.
00:50:26.35\00:50:28.96
And they have
been very successful.
00:50:28.99\00:50:30.59
Well, we, kind of, just
rush by that address while ago,
00:50:30.63\00:50:35.26
the internet for the geo...
00:50:35.30\00:50:38.33
Geoscience
Research Institute. Yes.
00:50:38.37\00:50:41.20
But what we want to do
now is put it up for you,
00:50:41.24\00:50:44.61
so that you can
see how to get online
00:50:44.64\00:50:48.51
and get the information.
00:50:48.54\00:50:50.61
Or perhaps you
have other reasons
00:50:50.65\00:50:53.68
that you might
like to contact them.
00:50:53.72\00:50:56.38
Here's how you can
get in touch with them.
00:50:56.42\00:51:00.42
If you'd like
to learn more about
00:51:00.46\00:51:01.79
the Geoscience
Research Institute,
00:51:01.82\00:51:04.43
you can visit them
online at grisda.org.
00:51:04.46\00:51:10.93
That's grisda.org.
00:51:10.97\00:51:14.80
You can also give them a
call at area 909-558-4548.
00:51:14.84\00:51:20.21
That's 909-558-4548.
00:51:20.24\00:51:25.01
Or you can write to
them at 11060 Campus Street,
00:51:25.05\00:51:29.85
Loma Linda, California 92350.
00:51:29.88\00:51:33.12
That's 11060 Campus Street,
00:51:33.15\00:51:36.16
Loma Linda, California 92350.
00:51:36.19\00:51:40.83
Not only can you
go to their website
00:51:47.77\00:51:50.44
and look at these,
00:51:50.47\00:51:51.81
you can get some questions
answered on their website,
00:51:51.84\00:51:53.91
they've got an
excellent website but you can...
00:51:53.94\00:51:56.54
You're also welcome to call
00:51:56.58\00:51:58.01
and Tim said he will give
you his cell phone, maybe not.
00:51:58.05\00:52:02.32
But if you want to have someone
come out to your church perhaps
00:52:02.35\00:52:07.92
and talk on Creation Science,
00:52:07.96\00:52:09.99
just take advantage
00:52:10.03\00:52:12.49
of the Geoscience
Research Institute.
00:52:12.53\00:52:15.46
Well, right now, we've
got to do with news break,
00:52:15.50\00:52:17.17
and then we'll come
back for a closing thought.
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