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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017078A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:19 Removing pain 00:24 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:35 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:46 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Well, hello and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:10 It is always such a joy to have you join us. 01:13 Every day you allow us to bring our guests 01:16 right into your living room or into your car. 01:20 You know, we've got viewers and we've got listeners 01:22 all over this world that today are going to learn 01:26 some good information that will have... 01:29 We've got a good program today. 01:31 But before I introduce you to our guest, 01:33 I want to share a scripture with you. 01:35 And the scripture 01:37 I'm going to share is from Matthew 11:28. 01:42 And the scripture says, "Come to me, 01:45 all you who labor and are heavy laden, 01:48 and I will give you rest. 01:50 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, 01:53 for I am gentle and lowly in heart: 01:56 and you will find rest for your souls. 01:59 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." 02:02 Well, the guest that we have for us today, 02:05 they have lifestyle center. 02:07 A place where so many people need to go 02:12 when they are burdened, 02:14 when they are under heavy labor, 02:16 and when there is sickness in their lives, 02:22 where there are areas in their lives 02:24 that need to be ministered to and need to be touched. 02:27 So if you find yourself in this situation 02:30 or you know someone who is, 02:32 call them right now and tell them 02:34 to watch this program. 02:35 They're going to find good information 02:37 to help their load be lightened. 02:40 Well, allow me now to introduce you to my guest. 02:43 First we have with us Lisa Brown. 02:46 Lisa, it is so good to have you here today. 02:50 And then Brown, her husband. 02:52 And they are the founders and directors 02:55 of the Eden's Pathway Lifestyle Center. 02:58 And, Ben, 03:00 where is Eden's Pathway Lifestyle Center? 03:03 Where is it located? 03:05 We're located in East Tennessee in a place called Sweetwater, 03:08 Tennessee, 03:10 about halfway somewhat between Knoxville 03:12 and Collegedale, Tennessee. 03:14 Well, we want to learn so much about this lifestyle center. 03:19 And, Lisa, I understand that you are working 03:23 on almost half your doctorate and naturopath. 03:27 Yes. Did I say that word correctly? 03:29 Yes, ma'am, you did. 03:30 Well, we want to learn a lot about that as well. 03:34 But before we have Lisa and Ben 03:38 tell us all about this incredible work 03:40 that there are in. 03:42 We've got someone here 03:43 that's going to sing a beautiful song for you. 03:46 His name is Danny Shelton. 03:47 I think we all know. 03:49 Love and appreciate Danny Shelton, 03:51 "Turn your eyes upon Jesus". 03:54 Amen. 04:05 O soul 04:08 Are you weary and troubled? 04:15 No light in the darkness 04:19 You see? 04:24 There's light 04:26 For a look at the Savior 04:33 And life so abundant 04:39 And free! 04:43 Turn your eyes 04:47 Upon Jesus 04:52 Look full in 04:54 His wonderful face 05:01 And the things of earth 05:06 Will grow strangely dim 05:11 In the light of His glory and grace 05:25 His Word will not fail you 05:30 He's promised 05:34 Believe Him 05:36 and all will be well 05:43 Then go 05:45 To a world that is dying 05:52 His perfect salvation 05:57 To tell! 06:02 Turn your eyes 06:05 Upon Jesus 06:10 Look full in 06:13 His wonderful face 06:19 And the things of earth 06:23 Will grow strangely dim 06:29 In the light of His glory 06:34 And grace 06:42 In the light of His glory 06:48 And grace 07:02 Thank you, Danny. 07:04 You know something that Lisa 07:06 kind of leaned over and said to me 07:08 when Danny first started singing was, 07:10 you know, he usually brings tears to my eyes. 07:12 And it's the anointing of God that's on the man's life. 07:17 And he just sings so beautifully. 07:19 It's so easy for him, it seems like. 07:22 Well, Lisa and Ben. 07:24 Ben, first I want to ask you, 07:27 you're the founder and director, 07:29 I think you did this together. 07:30 Yes. 07:32 What was the motivation 07:34 behind you starting a lifestyle center? 07:38 Well, really it was my wife's motivation, 07:41 it was due to some little small health issues 07:44 that she was kind of having. 07:46 And through some friends that we knew had told us 07:49 about these programs that, 07:50 you know, being able to detox and cleanse. 07:53 And so she with the help of her friend 07:55 went to another friend's house in Spring City, Tennessee. 08:00 She explains the 10-day program, 08:02 and at the cleansing at the time 08:04 she actually had a health food store 08:05 'cause we thought that was, 08:07 you know, way of doing medical missionary work. 08:09 And, but when she came back from this 10-day program 08:11 she said, "Honey, this is it, the health food store is nice, 08:15 but this is really." 08:17 And she was able to experience the cleansing, detoxing, 08:21 her headaches had gone away, she'd lost some weight, 08:23 and just felt invigorated. 08:25 And that's kind of where it stimulate 08:27 from her own personal experience. 08:30 From there then the first guinea pig 08:32 was her dad. 08:34 And we tried it on him and he did wonderful. 08:37 And then from there it just kind of sprung 08:39 and it was just more word of mouth. 08:42 And then it just kind of has grown from that, 08:45 from then people know 08:46 what we're doing every month so. 08:48 Sounds like what your heart's desire 08:50 and it's to help people, 08:52 they'd find themselves in a position along the lines 08:55 of what you were in, where you needed 08:58 just help from someone that is a professional. 09:03 And now, Lisa, I understand 09:05 that you almost have your doctorate... 09:08 Maybe you like your dissertation? 09:09 Yes, Ma'am. 09:10 To have your doctorate in naturopathic medicine. 09:14 And I want you to tell us what that means? 09:18 What does a doctor in naturopathic medicine? 09:21 What are the prerequisites to get your doctorate? 09:24 And what will it mean once you have your doctorate? 09:28 Well, it took me about four and a half years, 09:32 like I said I'm finishing my doctorate. 09:35 It's a little different. 09:37 We focus more on helping the body 09:41 to heal itself naturally. 09:47 However we work with doctors as well 09:50 'cause we have a lot of doctors that recommend people to us. 09:52 And they say, 09:53 "We know the program that you're doing this is what, 09:56 you know, these people need." 09:59 So there's a difference between the medical and the naturopath. 10:03 Naturopath obviously 10:04 is you're going to try to do things 10:06 as much naturally as possible 10:09 by letting the body have the ability 10:11 to heal itself naturally. 10:13 And so we don't diagnose or, you know, cure, 10:18 we don't claim that we cure anything like that. 10:20 We basically believe that Christ 10:22 is the great physician, 10:24 and we know that He's the great physician. 10:26 And when we do our part, He always does His. 10:29 You know Christ is the healer. 10:30 I had someone tell me once 10:33 and I think you've probably all heard this 10:35 that time is a great healer. 10:37 And I tell them no, time's a revealer, 10:41 what the healer is the Lord Jesus Christ. 10:44 And so I appreciate so very much 10:47 the fact that you're depending on Christ 10:50 for the healing virtue 10:51 that God placed within our bodies 10:53 to start with. 10:54 But I know in getting your doctorate 10:57 there are a lot of courses that you have to take. 11:00 Yes, Ma'am. 11:01 It required for me to have my A and P, 11:04 anatomy and physiology, 11:06 pharmacology, nutrition, enzymes. 11:11 I even had to take a course on law. 11:15 And I took a course in psychology as well. 11:18 And that pretty much was the core of it. 11:23 And then now it's just finishing off 11:24 with the dissertation. 11:25 So it sounds like the courses that you take or the courses 11:28 that any physician would have to take to get a doctorate. 11:33 So I'm very encouraged to know that with this lifestyle center 11:38 comes a very high level of excellence in education 11:42 as well as the heart's desire to help people. 11:46 So, Ben, how long have 11:48 you been working in this ministry? 11:52 Eden's Pathway, 11:53 we've been around for little over 17 years. 11:57 And so we've been able to work with, 12:00 you know, I guess several hundred 12:02 to maybe a couple thousand people, 12:03 I'm not sure. 12:04 And especially when we go, and speak, 12:06 and being able to train others as well, 12:08 and to doing really door-to-door evangelism, 12:11 taking this message to them. 12:13 And that's what, 12:15 you know, we have been commissioned to do so. 12:19 So I think there's been a little transition 12:21 in the actual lifestyle center itself. 12:23 What is the direction that you feel like 12:26 the Lord is leading you in now. 12:28 I believe that the Lord still warning us, 12:31 we were on a larger piece of property, 12:34 larger scale about over a year ago. 12:36 But it's started in our home 12:39 and that's what we're trying to do 12:41 is go back to our home. 12:42 And it's not, 12:44 it's just being able to work it really with, 12:45 you know, three to four guests 12:47 every month one on one 12:49 so they can see what an Adventist, 12:50 how Adventist we live, it's our lifestyle. 12:53 But also the focus 12:54 is actually traveling to churches 12:55 and to any type of venues to be able to go to train them, 12:59 encourage them to hopefully 13:01 that somebody there will be inspired 13:03 to open up their home. 13:05 And as we've been giving direction by inspiration 13:08 is to have a home like sanitariums in pleasant places. 13:12 And we're seeing that spring up, 13:13 there's been more especially this past year more calls of, 13:17 you know, for us to travel to training, 13:18 and to teach and all. 13:20 So in traveling, and training, and teaching, 13:22 you're teaching others to duplicate what you're doing. 13:26 Exactly. 13:27 And so what we normally do is when we do that, 13:31 then it also allows us to meet new people. 13:33 And then we try to have maybe once a year 13:35 when we get together all the different centers 13:38 or medical missionaries 13:40 or even vendors to come in and share information 13:42 so we can all benefit from our learning experiences. 13:45 So you have an organization, Ben, that you're a part of... 13:50 Yes. 13:51 Yeah, it's called Lifestyle Centers International. 13:54 And normally in the fall in November 13:56 we have our meetings were 13:59 that's generally kind of little bit, 14:01 it slows down for most of us a little bit. 14:04 And so we're able to come 14:05 and we invite individuals to come and learn. 14:08 We have different speakers from each of the centers 14:11 to be able to present on diabetes, 14:13 to cancers, to drug addictions, or whatever might be. 14:16 And then we had vendors 14:18 to talk about like hyperbarics or tomography 14:22 or whatever it might be 14:23 that's out there that can be available to us. 14:27 So we can all help one another, 14:29 and refer guest to each other as well and work together. 14:32 So you're keeping your learning abilities 14:36 on the cutting edge 14:38 so that you'll know what the success is that 14:42 others are having so you can learn from them. 14:45 I know that you have some pictures 14:48 that you brought along with you. 14:50 And I thought that we would go to a picture now. 14:52 Okay. 14:53 Let's see about this ministry. 14:55 This is our little small home like sanitarium 14:59 where a lot of guests come. 15:00 They stay with us and it is an in home 15:03 and live in center 15:06 where they can actually see 15:07 how we live as Seventh-day Adventist. 15:10 This is one of our guest rooms. 15:11 This usually is where the couples 15:13 they will stay in, it's called our love room. 15:16 And then this is the other guest room, 15:18 it's called our joy room. 15:21 And we can take up to four people 15:24 or two individuals at a time and where we're at currently. 15:28 Well, that's a very beautiful home. 15:30 Who do we have here? 15:31 This is a mother and daughter 15:33 that came to us from the Bahamas. 15:35 What was kind of interesting about them was 15:38 in talking to them 15:39 'cause normally, 15:40 you know, we're doing our lectures 15:42 doing the different therapies and stuff like that, 15:43 come to find out that they actually growing up, 15:48 they used to listen to 3ABN on the local TV, 15:52 I think a radio, 15:53 and she knew a lot about Adventism and stuff. 15:56 And so her daughter, 15:57 she came with her daughter 15:59 because her daughter wasn't able to... 16:00 All the way from Bahamas? 16:01 All the way from Bahamas. Yeah. 16:03 And one thing she said, 16:04 "You'll never guess what type of work I do." 16:06 I said, "Well, what is it?" 16:07 She said, "Well, my husband started 16:10 a liquor store right next 16:12 to the hotel Atlantis and stuff." 16:15 And I said, "I would never guess that." 16:17 And so that was just kind of an interesting story 16:19 of how that they knew a lot about Adventist 16:22 because of the local TV, and radio, and all that. 16:25 And how were they introduced to your ministry? 16:28 They had found out about us through another mutual friend 16:33 that knew about our ministry 16:34 and that's how they contacted us last year 16:38 and just made arrangements for them to come 16:40 right before her daughter 16:41 was going back to college in Florida. 16:44 And so they came together and we were able to help. 16:47 I think that the daughter had problems with lupus. 16:50 And so we were able to help them get them 16:51 on the right path. 16:53 Okay. 16:54 So you got them on the right path. 16:55 You know, the home was a lovely home 16:57 and obviously it's in a country setting. 17:00 Tell us a little about the acreage 17:03 and what you have 17:04 that your house is sitting on there? 17:06 Basically it's just a simple home. 17:09 Behind us the neighbor 17:11 actually has about 2500 acres of property, 17:15 farmland cattle, and stuff like that. 17:17 And it's very peaceful conducive 17:20 to where we're living 17:22 because there's not a lot of neighbors, 17:24 you know, as we're told can look in 17:27 and pry in and whatever. 17:28 But the neighbors there are 17:30 there are very nice and very helpful, 17:33 you know, in what we're doing as well so. 17:35 You know, in comparing stories before the program began 17:38 we found that we've got basically 17:41 the same heritage show 17:42 or from Tennessee here in these United States. 17:46 And I'm from Alabama where Tennessee sits right 17:49 on top of Alabama. 17:50 And I'm from North Alabama as a matter of fact. 17:52 And so that is beautiful country, 17:55 that's not way overpopulated, 17:57 and it's just got that good warm weather 18:02 in the summertime, 18:03 and it's not brutally cold in the wintertime. 18:06 So it's a lovely place to have a lifestyle center. 18:09 And so the mother and the daughter 18:11 were helped by being there with you 18:13 in the lifestyle center. 18:15 Yes, and we were blessed by them 18:16 being there with us as well. 18:17 Okay. 18:19 And let's go on to the next picture. 18:21 Okay. 18:22 This, here was another interesting story, 18:26 it's a father here, 18:28 he was suffering with some cancer. 18:30 And the father and the mother came, 18:32 and this is a daughter. 18:33 But the other daughter had actually contacted us. 18:36 And one of the things and when she contacted us, 18:40 she knew we were Christian center. 18:43 And she said, 18:44 "Well, you know, 18:45 I'm not a Christian 18:49 and I can't remember what religion is 18:50 but didn't believe in God." 18:51 And it was really challenging for me to think well 18:55 and I told my wife and said, 18:57 "You know we pray a lot with our guests. 18:59 And she's, you know, 19:00 she doesn't believe in God or anything. 19:02 She believes in some foreign mystic religion." 19:06 And so a week prior to them coming the daughter 19:10 from California says, "I can't come. 19:11 But my sister from Connecticut is coming." 19:15 So when they all came together, 19:17 and we picked them up in Chattanooga, 19:20 and they got into the house, 19:21 we got to talk to the daughter and said, 19:24 "You know we're a Christian organization." 19:27 And I said, "My wife and I pray a lot." 19:28 And she said, 19:30 "Well, that's not going to be a problem. 19:31 I'm a Christian too." Praise God. 19:33 And I said, "Well, good." 19:34 I said, "I was just kind of worried 19:35 but I don't want to offend you. 19:37 I know your father is here for help." 19:38 And that was one part of it. 19:40 The bigger part was that the daughter 19:44 as you saw in the picture there with her father 19:47 there was a little strange 19:49 'cause her mother had her and her brother 19:53 before she got married to this gentleman 19:55 that was just pictured. 19:56 And so they ended up having a couple, 19:59 another daughter and son together. 20:03 And she kind of felt estranged from her father. 20:05 And the father finally kind of broke down 20:10 and was able to be loving and caring 20:13 to his adopted daughter, 20:16 and they had never really hugged. 20:18 And so this was the night before the daughter had left, 20:21 the older daughter left to go back home 20:23 before her parents left. 20:25 And the Holy Spirit really broke his heart. 20:28 Actually my wife could probably share more 20:31 one of the experiences while he was with us. 20:34 And so, Lisa, 20:36 do you mind sharing about what happened. 20:37 Sure. Sure. 20:40 The daughter was feeling a little uncomfortable 20:42 like my husband said, 20:43 she was from a previous marriage. 20:46 And she says, I don't know how it is 20:48 that I ended up being the daughter 20:50 that came to be here with my mom and dad. 20:52 She says but obviously God has a plan. 20:54 And I looked at her and I said, 20:55 "Well, you know sister, God always has a plan. 20:57 Sometimes we may not see it, 20:59 we may not understand it but he does. 21:01 He always has a plan." 21:03 And so what happened was she was dealing 21:07 with some health issues as well. 21:09 And a lot of it 21:12 was where her childhood growing up 21:14 where she felt rejected. 21:16 And the unfortunate thing is we see a lot of people 21:20 who come like we try to focus 21:22 mentally, physically, and spiritually 21:24 because I think a lot of people 21:28 all of us at some point have been hurt, 21:30 and we don't know how to express that pain, 21:32 and that grief and anger. 21:35 And so she was sharing with me and she says, 21:38 "I just don't know why they sent me?" 21:41 She said, "But I'm okay with it." 21:43 She said just don't ask me to do anything 21:44 with my father. 21:45 I said, "Well, that's okay. We won't do that." 21:48 And one time we had heard that, 21:51 you know, some lifestyle centers, 21:53 you know, they don't like to as Adventist sometimes 21:58 we like to do just share or over share 22:00 because these were not Adventists 22:01 who were coming. 22:03 And they say, 22:05 we tell our guests or we tell our staff, 22:07 you know, we don't want to go around 22:09 and start praying 22:10 with these individuals right away. 22:11 We don't want to basically scare them off, you know. 22:14 We want to for the first three days everybody 22:17 just kind of lay low 22:18 and don't just give them time to get settled in before 22:21 we start sharing, you know, Jesus. 22:25 And so I thought about 22:27 that in this situation I thought, 22:28 "Well, if I would have waited 22:30 who knows where the Lord would have led with that situation," 22:32 because when these people come into our home, 22:35 we only have them for 10 days, 22:37 not that we want to throw everything at them 22:39 because we don't do that. 22:41 We believe in... 22:42 I've had people look at me and say, 22:43 "Well, I just want you to give me my room, 22:45 give me my phone, 22:46 and I don't want you praying with me." 22:48 And I said, "Well, that's fine but just to let you know, 22:51 we do have to pray 22:53 'cause we can't do this without praying, 22:55 we have to be able to pray in." 22:58 So this particular family, 23:00 this is the mindset of the father, 23:02 he didn't want us to pray with him. 23:04 He's like, "I know there's a being, 23:06 I know there's a higher power but just don't pray with me." 23:09 So now he has cancer. 23:11 And he's there to get help. 23:13 But he didn't want you to pray with him. 23:15 He does not want us to pray with him. 23:16 Okay. That's correct. 23:17 And so I said, "Well, Brother, you know, that's okay. 23:20 I don't have to pray with you, but I will be praying for you." 23:23 And so the daughter, she told me, she said, 23:28 "Lisa, don't let it, you know, bother you". 23:30 I said, "Oh, it's okay." 23:31 I said, "We're good." 23:33 And so we would go to have the meal. 23:35 I would fix the meal, and she would say, 23:36 "Dad, we're going to have prayer first." 23:38 And he's like. 23:40 You know, like he didn't really want to. 23:42 And so I fixed the meal, and she started to have prayer. 23:46 And I said, "Well, wait a minute, Brother." 23:48 I said, "Why don't you have prayer for us?" 23:50 And he says, "No. 23:51 No, I'm good." 23:53 I said, "Okay." 23:55 So I let it go. 23:56 And so in the afternoons 23:59 what we do after we have devotion 24:00 which we have devotion morning and evening. 24:03 And our guests are welcome to come to the devotion, 24:06 but it's not required, they don't have to. 24:09 But we'd like to start the day with Christ. 24:11 And we like to finish it with the Lord. 24:13 And so I had devotion that evening, 24:16 and we go and we tell them good night, 24:18 you know, and see if they need anything. 24:20 Sometimes they may need a little bit of a massage. 24:22 You know, we'll give them a massage 24:24 or something help them rest better 24:27 or fix them a hot tea. 24:28 And so we would go and tell them good night. 24:32 And so one night I went in 24:33 and I purposely wasn't going to have prayer 24:36 that particular night after I went in 24:37 'cause I would have prayer with them, 24:39 tell them good night. 24:40 Lord willing will see you in the morning, 24:42 if you need anything, let us know, we're right here. 24:44 And so I started to leave to walk out of the room 24:48 and he says, "Didn't you forget something?" 24:52 And I said, "No. 24:54 I haven't forgotten anything." 24:56 So I start to walk out. He says, "No. 24:58 You forgot something." 25:00 And I said, "Well, I don't think I did. 25:04 I picked up your teacup, everything. 25:06 I don't think I did." 25:08 He said, "Oh yes, you did. 25:09 You forgot to have prayer with us." 25:10 Oh, praise God. Amen. 25:13 And so I turned around and I said, 25:15 "You know what, Brother, you're exactly right. 25:17 I did forget to have prayer with you." 25:19 And so I went over and I said, "Well, you know what?" 25:23 I said, "Better, yeah." 25:24 I said, "Why don't you have a prayer?" 25:26 And he says, "Oh no." 25:29 He says, "I can't pray." 25:31 I said, "Oh, yeah, Brother, you can pray." 25:33 He says, "No." 25:34 He said, "Trust me, God wouldn't hear my prayers." 25:39 He says, "He couldn't hear a sinner like me." 25:42 I said, "Brother, if He can't hear your prayers, 25:44 then He certainly can't hear mine." 25:47 I said, "You know what?" 25:48 I said, "He is there just waiting for you. 25:51 I said, 25:52 "So I think you can have prayer." 25:56 And the day before we were at the dinner table 26:00 when we were asking to have prayer over the dinner, 26:03 he didn't want to do it then either. 26:05 And I didn't force. 26:06 I just, you know, I said, 26:08 "Well, you can have prayer if you like." 26:09 And he didn't want to. 26:11 And I leaned over and I said, "You know what, Brother?" 26:14 I said, "You may think that God doesn't hear you." 26:17 I said, "But just to let you know 26:18 He never leaves us nor forsakes us." 26:21 I said, "You may deny Him, 26:22 but He will never deny you, Brother." 26:24 I said, "So He's just waiting for you 26:26 when you're ready." 26:28 And I said, "And by the way whenever you are ready, 26:31 you'll get the true healing that we all need." 26:34 I said, "'Cause, Brother, we all mentally, physically, 26:36 and spiritually need Him." 26:38 That next night was the night that he said, 26:41 "Oh, I can't pray." 26:43 I said, "Oh, yeah, you can." 26:45 And so he had the most precious prayer. 26:50 He closed his eyes and he said, 26:51 "Lord, I don't know if you're there, 26:54 but something in my heart tells me you are." 26:57 And he says, "If you can hear this prayer, 27:00 this sinful person, if you can hear my prayer, 27:04 I want to pray and let you know 27:06 that I'm ready to give everything up, 27:08 surrender all to you." 27:10 I'm sorry. 27:11 I just... 27:12 If you don't start crying and I will. 27:14 I just... 27:15 It was, I tell you, it was a blessing. 27:18 And when he got done, 27:20 he grabbed my hand and he started singing. 27:23 Yes, Jesus loves me 27:26 And he was what, 97? 27:28 He was 84 years old. Oh, 84. I'm sorry, 84. 27:31 Sorry. Yeah, he was 84 years old. 27:32 What was interesting to is that 27:34 the day we took him back to the airport, 27:37 and I didn't realize that you could get a pass 27:41 'cause I needed to help them 'cause in their wheelchair. 27:44 And the guy at there said, 27:46 "Oh, we can give you temporary go through TSS." 27:48 "Oh, really" I said, "That will be good 27:50 'cause that way I can wheel them in. 27:52 So I took them to the terminal. 27:53 And I said, "Can I have a prayer 27:54 with both of you?" 27:56 And he said, "Sure." 27:57 And so I prayed for them and prayed 27:59 that God would bless them in all their stuff. 28:01 And then I said, "Amen." 28:02 And then he immediately started praying, 28:05 "Dear Lord, I just ask 28:06 that You'll be with this precious family. 28:09 Pray that we can see them again." 28:10 And I just started crying. 28:12 I'm like can you believe this 28:13 that the Lord really broke his heart. 28:16 So you were mentioning earlier mentally, 28:18 physically and emotionally. 28:20 So this couple wasn't just or this gentleman. 28:23 And this family wasn't just ministered to physically 28:27 which is what they came for. 28:28 But mentally and emotionally 28:30 as well healing and restoration. 28:33 And from what you're saying this man gave his life 28:36 to the Lord Jesus Christ, was truly born again. 28:39 Thank You, Lord, at 87, I believe. 28:41 Eighty four. Eighty four. 28:42 At 84, he gave his life to the Lord. 28:45 You know, I think 28:46 that the statistics on people of that age 28:48 actually having a conversion experience 28:51 that statistics are very low. 28:53 So thank You, Lord. 28:54 So it's a lifestyle center not just for help 28:57 which is the main purpose of course, 28:59 but for every area and aspect of your life. 29:03 Now I know we've got more pictures, 29:04 let's look at more pictures. 29:06 Okay. 29:07 This one, this lady she was an ICU nurse 29:10 or is an ICU nurse in Columbia, Kentucky. 29:13 She was referred to as actually by our mutual friend 29:15 that was also a nurse. 29:17 And this lady, she told me here in one of the lecture here 29:21 she said that her friend Debbie 29:24 kept hearing her complain about her health issues. 29:26 And finally she said, 29:27 "Are you really ready to do something about it?" 29:29 She said, "What are you talking about?" 29:30 "Well, you need to call, 29:31 you know, I've been with Lisa at Eden's Pathway. 29:33 So she came, 29:34 and as we were sitting there talking, 29:36 I said, "So, you know, what are you suffering with?" 29:37 She told me. 29:38 And I said, "What are you doing?" 29:40 She said, "I have no clue about the health message." 29:42 And I said, "Oh, this is great." 29:44 And so we were able to share everything with her. 29:47 When the guests leave 29:49 that is the time where we're like, 29:51 "Dear God, I pray that 29:53 they will keep with their new lifestyle, 29:55 with their new lifestyle 29:57 what they've learned, that they don't go back." 29:59 You know, Christ told us, 30:00 you know, in the Bible "Go and sin no more, 30:02 lest a worst thing come upon you." 30:04 Well, she, about a week or so after she left, 30:08 she sent me a friend request on Facebook, 30:10 and so I accepted it. 30:11 And I've been watching her. 30:12 Well, what was interesting about her posting 30:15 on the pictures on Facebook was that 30:17 she was actually staying with her lifestyle, 30:20 she was actually promoting a plant-based diet of juicings 30:25 and stuff like that. 30:26 And on the way up here 30:27 she actually sent an invitation for presentation 30:30 on plant-based diet and all that. 30:32 And I had to decline it 30:34 but it was so exciting and someone not an Adventist 30:38 but a Christian 30:39 she was sticking with this lifestyle. 30:41 And that was so encouraging. 30:42 And that not only that, 30:44 but she was also promoting them 30:45 and trying to encourage other people. 30:46 So not only do you take them through your program, 30:49 your 10-day program. 30:50 But then there is follow up to help them 30:54 continue on the right path. 30:56 Yes. Okay. 30:57 And that's the whole objective, 30:58 it's trying to praying that all of our churches, 31:00 our people when the guests come especially 31:04 if they refer them, 31:05 that they are willing to take that opportunity 31:08 to say well, when they come back say, 31:10 "Well, great you've experienced this, 31:12 let me continue helping you on," 31:14 because it's not going to only benefit the person 31:16 that needed the help 31:17 but it also is going to help you. 31:19 One thing that I read in the Spirit of Prophecy 31:23 that actually our salvation is dependent upon 31:25 how we help others 31:26 because actually 31:27 we're working out our salvation as well. 31:29 Yeah, I love that. Next picture, please. 31:33 This was one of the... 31:34 As we talked about, this is in Windsor, 31:37 Virginia Church there, 31:39 they asked me 31:40 just recently to go up there and do some training. 31:42 And I was there the full weekends 31:44 and they've asked again for us to come back. 31:47 And this is just simply teaching 31:50 the simple health laws. 31:52 And they advertised 31:53 and tried to get the community to come out. 31:56 Actually what was nice about it is 31:58 one of our former guest drove two and a half hours 32:01 just to come to the lecture. 32:03 And it was nice to see her again. 32:04 It's been about three or four years 32:06 since we saw her. 32:07 But she's trying her best to stick with her lifestyle, 32:10 with the plant-based diet and all that 32:12 and that was very encouraging. 32:14 And so if any of our viewers, 32:16 you know, they're interested in us coming, 32:17 we'd love to come and share. 32:20 And it's not just sharing we do, 32:22 you know, PowerPoint presentations hands on. 32:25 But also like leaving people with literature. 32:30 So we print out a lot of literature 32:32 so that they can actually have it 32:34 and take home with them. 32:35 And it's not just listening to something 32:37 but they actually, 32:38 you know, they have something that they can take home. 32:40 Have something in their hand. Yes, Ma'am. 32:41 Well, now that we've presented that, 32:46 that you do go to different churches and speak 32:49 and that's part of what your ministry is. 32:52 I just want you to know 32:54 that we're going to give you address, 32:56 contact information here in just a few minutes. 32:59 So get you a pen and paper 33:01 so that you'll be able to get the address 33:03 so that you can contact them. 33:05 But now I know we've got more pictures, 33:07 I love these pictures. 33:08 Yes. 33:09 This is our last trip in the Cayman Islands. 33:14 This was a new church there 33:15 in the Cayman Islands back in 2012. 33:17 We were there, it's called the Kings Church. 33:20 And normally on Fridays and Sabbath nights 33:22 sometimes they have a joint service. 33:24 There's currently about 15 animist churches. 33:26 And then using 33:27 when they have a guest speakers, 33:29 they have them all come together. 33:30 And this is at the end of a lecture, 33:32 you can see I'm little worn out, 33:34 this is at the end of two weeks there. 33:36 But, you know, 33:37 and if you want to roll to the next one as well. 33:40 This is in Ellijay. 33:43 The Ellijay Adventist Church asked us to do a 10-day 33:46 what I call the Daniel Light program. 33:48 It's taken our program on the road, 33:50 and these are the students that actually graduated. 33:53 We actually started with I think about 15 33:57 that signed up initially 33:59 but by the end the program we had 29. 34:01 And it went to about 65% non-Adventist. 34:04 And so this is the graduating class there. 34:08 They would come in the morning, 34:09 and we give them their protocol, 34:11 and also their diet, 34:12 and then they come back at 5 o'clock that afternoon. 34:14 My wife had a light supper for them prepared in as well. 34:18 And then we do lectures in the evenings. 34:20 And so we were blessed by it, 34:23 by especially getting to meet these individuals. 34:26 And so we were able to take the program to them 34:28 not the full program 34:30 when the people come into our home, 34:32 but it was something that 34:33 they could benefit to reversing, 34:35 starting reverse diabetes, reversing high blood pressures, 34:39 and things of that nature so. 34:40 You know, something I wanted us 34:42 to look at were some of the different ailments, 34:46 I'll use that word that you address. 34:49 I know you have mentioned lupus, 34:51 and then the gentleman with cancer. 34:53 So I know these maladies that you address. 34:59 And what would be your basic treatment 35:03 when you began with someone 35:04 with something like lupus or with cancer? 35:08 You mean as far as going through 35:09 what they would go through. 35:11 On kind of a typical day is 35:14 we start them in cleaning the colon 35:17 because we know that 90% of the diseases 35:20 come from the colon. 35:22 So we clean the colon out, so we clean all the organs, 35:24 the blood system. 35:26 And so we do that through different juices, 35:28 and different supplements, teas and things of that nature, 35:31 different therapies it could be, you know, 35:34 hyperbaric, it could be Russians steam baths, 35:38 or Far Infrareds, some things of that nature 35:41 just to kind of just name a couple of things. 35:44 We normally suggest that people have to go 35:47 and get their blood worked done to at least have an idea 35:51 that the doctor can tell him, you know, 35:53 this is what your current hemoglobin, 35:55 your blood, blood cell counts, you know, 35:58 white or red blood cell and your platelets, 36:00 and things of that nature. 36:02 And so that's kind of a typical day 36:05 that they're there. 36:06 We do juicing with them because we want their body 36:10 to be able to have the highest potential 36:12 of healing itself. 36:13 And so we encourage a higher percentage preferably. 36:18 You know, 60% raw diets 36:21 or more depending on their case. 36:24 And then we normally typically suggest, you know, 36:26 looking 3 months, 6 months, sometimes 12 months out 36:30 and staying with that protocol. 36:33 I know some centers have 30-day programs, 36:37 or 21, or 18 days. 36:38 And we used to do that when we first started. 36:40 But we found out that a lot of times the people 36:44 that left they wouldn't stick with it. 36:46 So what we've recommend is they come to us for 10 days. 36:51 And then depending on the severity 36:53 and the advancement of whatever they're dealing with 36:56 either coming back in 30 days, sometimes 90 days out. 36:59 And a lot, because when they first come, 37:02 there's a lot of apprehension, they don't know 37:03 what they're dealing with plus, you know, 37:05 they've been diagnosed with cancer. 37:06 So that they're dealing with all that 37:08 or they have diabetes or whatever. 37:10 And so but when they come back the second time 37:13 that allows him to say, "Well, you know, 37:14 I've already experienced this, so I kind of know 37:16 what I'm doing getting into again. 37:18 But it allows them to actually ask more questions 37:20 the second time. 37:22 And it increases the probability of them 37:24 sticking with what they've learned 37:27 because sometimes they lose that encouragement support so. 37:30 Okay, Lisa, you like you have something you wanted to add. 37:33 Yes. 37:34 I would like to add that we try to focus on 37:38 break down, rebuild and restore. 37:40 And then like I said mentally, physically, and spiritually. 37:43 So when they come, we send them 37:45 through a cleansing detox program. 37:49 And that way the body usually knows what to do 37:56 if it's given the resources, it just knows 37:58 that's how God fearfully and wonderfully created us. 38:01 And so once we start cleaning out 38:04 and getting the toxins and poisons out of the system, 38:07 then the body knows pretty much what to do. 38:10 And so we are there to help assist. 38:13 And it's... 38:15 We've been doing this like we said for 17 years. 38:18 And we have the health lectures. 38:22 We do show them how to do juicing. 38:25 We used to have cooking classes 38:27 but we really don't do that as much anymore 38:30 because they come into the kitchen 38:32 and they're watching me 38:33 as I'm already doing all of this anyway. 38:35 So it's pretty much a cooking class 38:36 but it's not like a real lay everything out cooking class 38:40 'cause there's just the two of us 38:41 we work as a team. 38:44 And so the Lord has really blessed. 38:47 So you give them the tools that they need 38:50 to go back home and then continue. 38:51 Yes, Ma'am. 38:52 They go home educated 38:54 and most everyone that comes there 38:56 have pretty much never done this before. 38:59 So this is all new to them. 39:01 So we try to get them educated so that when they do go home. 39:06 But we try not to overwhelm them 39:08 because this is a whole lifestyle change. 39:10 It's not something you're just going to be over in two days. 39:14 I mean, it takes some time. 39:16 And, you know, we're told that the body takes time to heal 39:21 when you're trying to do things naturally. 39:23 It takes a process. 39:25 And so we try to encourage them that, you know, 39:30 your body can respond, 39:31 it's just going to take some time. 39:34 And as we do our part, the beautiful thing is 39:36 God always does His part. 39:38 He never misses a beat. 39:41 That's something we can all praise God for. 39:44 He never ceases to amaze me at how He works. 39:48 And we try to encourage them too is, you know, 39:50 happiness, you know, Psalms 150. 39:52 "You know, everything that has breath, 39:54 praise the Lord." 39:56 Happiness is being happy and being surrounded by people 39:58 that are happy. 40:00 It's very effective to healing the body. 40:03 The other thing is being patient, you know, 40:05 we quote, you know, Revelation 14:12, 40:08 "Here is the patience of saints." 40:09 You've got to be patient because like my wife just said 40:11 it takes time. 40:12 And then the other thing is it is time. 40:15 Time we don't know 40:16 when it's between one the guest leave, 40:19 it's between them and God as to, 40:21 are you going to continue this. 40:22 And then just wait upon the Lord. 40:25 So mentally, physically, and emotionally, spiritually. 40:29 I know that we've got more pictures. 40:32 So let's look at them. 40:34 This one is the another picture in Cayman Islands. 40:38 So this is South sound community center. 40:42 This was right on the beaches were a beautiful place. 40:45 And people were just coming and it was pretty packed there 40:47 as you see the meetings there. 40:50 Again this is lectures and training, 40:51 trying to train the individuals. 40:53 And what was kind of interesting there was 40:55 one lady, her sister was a naturopath. 40:58 And I had the book "Minister of Healing" 41:00 and I was showing it. 41:02 And I said, "You know, the referring it to, 41:03 I said, this is a fabulous book." 41:05 And well, one lady said, "Can I have it?" 41:08 And I said, 41:10 "Yeah, we'll try to see if we can find you." 41:11 She said, "No, I want your book." 41:13 And I said, "You want my book?" And she said, "Yes." 41:16 Well, but mines all marked in. 41:17 The pages were turned on the corners, you know, 41:19 where I like certain quotes and stuff." 41:21 And she said, "Well, that's why I want it. 41:23 I want your book." 41:25 I said, "Okay." So I gave her the book. 41:27 Well, the next night I was talking about 41:28 the ministry of healing again quoting, 41:30 she raised her hand again. 41:31 I said, "Yes." 41:33 She said, "You know, I was reading that book. 41:36 I was reading that book until 3 o'clock in the morning. 41:39 I couldn't put it down 41:40 and I realized what time it was. 41:42 I've got to get up in two hours to get ready to go to work." 41:44 And I said, "You did what?" 41:46 She said, "That is such a fabulous book." 41:48 And I said, "Praise God." 41:49 You know, so that was the experience 41:52 when we were down there so. 41:53 All right. 41:55 Well, I know that we've talked about 41:57 the maladies, lupus, diabetes, cancers, diseases. 42:03 But I know 42:05 that you also minister to addictions. 42:09 So would you like to address that? 42:11 Yes. 42:13 I think we may have mentioned earlier, 42:15 we've taken the individuals 42:17 that either have a drinking problem. 42:21 That have and that's been on drugs. 42:27 And normally those do take a little bit longer. 42:29 Sometimes 10 days, 42:30 sometimes longer depending on what type of drugs 42:33 that they've been on and all that. 42:35 And so those are kind of, 42:38 I guess encompassing of all of them 42:40 that had those type of addictions 42:43 that they can come, 42:45 we can clean them out, also pray with them, 42:46 and try to encourage them to get on the right path 42:50 and the right process as well. 42:52 And so but, you know, while they're with us 42:58 we always are trying to find some support group 43:01 because they can relapse. 43:03 And so if they are in 43:05 with someone that can encourage them 43:06 and that they are held accountable to that, 43:09 you know, that they respect his will, 43:11 then they will not concuss. 43:12 We had one gentleman that actually came back, 43:14 he came to us, had a drinking problem. 43:16 And I said, "You need to get back to the Adventist church." 43:18 And he said, "I'm going to." And he was in Arizona. 43:21 And so otherwise you're going to come back. 43:23 Well, a year later he came back. 43:25 And I said, "You know, I told you, 43:27 you know I'm trying to encourage you 43:29 so I'm going to move in 43:30 with my parents and stuff like that." 43:31 And so there was always constant challenge 43:34 and that's why it's imperative that regardless 43:36 if you have addictions or, you know, or health problems, 43:39 you need that support. 43:40 You need a support. Yes, that's so true. 43:42 Let's see the next picture. 43:45 This is again in the Cayman Islands. 43:48 I love this opportunity 43:50 because the gentleman that invited us to come down, 43:53 he actually used to be in the music industry. 43:57 And he gave up 43:58 millions of dollars of equipment, 44:00 it was kind of like, you know, 44:02 big music company here in America. 44:06 And he told me, 44:08 so I'm going have you speak in this in Georgetown. 44:11 And it was the ghetto, the worst part of town. 44:14 And I said, "Okay." 44:16 And I thought, you know, I was just going to speak 44:17 for a couple of minutes or whatever. 44:19 When we pulled in 44:20 there was some gentlemen over there 44:22 that were had their boom box just blaring. 44:24 And one of the gentlemen that was with us 44:26 went over and said, 44:28 "Hey, we're going to these meetings and stuff. 44:30 And can you turn it down." And he said, "Sure." 44:33 And so I was talking to Daryl, and Daryl's like, 44:37 "You have an hour and a half." And I'm like "I do what?" 44:39 Hour and half. "Hour and half to present." 44:41 I'm like "I do what?" 44:42 So I'm here trying to get my computer 44:44 'cause he said, 44:45 "well, there's a truck coming with a projector, 44:46 with a sound system, with chairs, and everything, 44:49 whole production pretty much." 44:51 And so I was trying to work on that. 44:53 And then as the meeting started 44:55 then people, you know, drug dealers... 44:57 Off the streets. 44:58 They were coming off the streets and just coming. 45:01 The drug dealers 45:02 because you were in the worst part of the town. 45:04 Worst part of the town. 45:05 Also you had a ready made audience. 45:06 Yes. 45:08 And, but that was the best experience 45:09 I've ever had because these people they were, 45:12 you know, I would hear them saying, "Praise God." 45:15 My wife Lisa was taking the pictures. 45:17 And she was crying. 45:18 And she said those that are were all there. 45:21 And it was just people need the Lord, 45:24 they're looking for the Lord. 45:26 So and that we were able to reach them 45:29 where they were at. 45:30 Okay, so, Lisa, you were right in the middle of this. 45:35 What did you think of all these that was going on? 45:39 Well, it was, again it was such a blessing 45:41 because it just goes to show that, 45:44 you know, the gospel is going to go to all the world. 45:47 And the Lord is just waiting for those 45:50 that are willing to go and share. 45:52 And I do get emotional. 45:55 So I was right there crying because I saw these people, 45:59 they were just coming from off the streets. 46:01 And one came up 46:02 and he actually had alcohol in his hand. 46:06 And he looks at me and he says, "Am I supposed to be here?" 46:08 I said, "Oh, certainly you can be here." 46:10 You know, so it's such a blessing. 46:12 And the thing that I always trying to remember is 46:16 when we started this ministry years ago, 46:18 I said, "Father, please help us to always be humble. 46:22 Help us to remember that this is about You. 46:24 This is not about me, 46:25 it's not about my husband, it's not... 46:28 We're just willing to be used 46:29 wherever You see fit to use us." 46:31 And He has in many ways, He has blessed. 46:36 And we literally have seen miracles. 46:39 I mean, we really have. 46:40 And it wasn't these big huge miracles. 46:44 I mean, miracles as in we see something 46:48 where we're doing therapy with an individual. 46:50 And I'm there and I'm saying, "Father, I've done everything. 46:53 I've done everything I know to do. 46:55 I don't have any other resources." 46:58 And He's like, "Oh yes, you do." 46:59 And I'm like, 47:00 "Father, I don't have any other resources. 47:02 I've done the hydrotherapy. I've done the massage. 47:04 I've done the cleansing that, 47:06 you know, I don't know what else to do." 47:08 And He's like, "Well, why don't you just ask Me." 47:12 And I'm like, "Father, you know what? 47:14 That's what I need to do. I need to just ask You." 47:16 And He never ceases to amaze me at what He does 47:20 because whatever situation we're in, 47:23 I can just call upon Him. 47:24 I remember one time, 47:25 I remember crying out my soul to Him. 47:27 I was like, "Father, I'm not the great physician here. 47:30 I've done everything I know to do. 47:32 Please do not leave us now." 47:35 And immediately, I mean, immediately 47:38 that person just started changing the whole demeanor, 47:41 everything about the person that we were doing therapy with 47:43 'cause we were doing a particular therapy. 47:45 And I said, "Father, we need You here." 47:48 And it's just the little things that He encourages. 47:50 It's not the big, 47:51 it's the little stuff that He reminds us 47:53 that He's still in charge. 47:55 He's right there with you. Yes. 47:56 And truly as you mentioned earlier 47:58 to the gentleman with cancer 48:00 "He never leaves us and He never forsakes us. 48:02 You know, I've known people that smoke, 48:04 people that were addicted to drugs or alcohol. 48:08 And not one if you ask them they would say, 48:10 "I wish I had never smoked the first cigarette, 48:12 I wish I'd never taken the first drugs, 48:15 I wish I'd never taken that first drink." 48:18 So we see these people and we think, 48:20 "Oh, they are, 48:22 you know, in such terrible shape, 48:23 shame on them." 48:25 Each one of them if you were to get to their heart 48:27 would give anything 48:30 if they could be set free of this bondage 48:33 that they find themselves in. 48:34 Well, I know that also you work with marriage counseling. 48:38 And I need more, 48:40 the time is rapidly getting away from us. 48:41 I didn't want us to overlook this. 48:44 Tell us about the marriage... 48:45 I know so many marriages that need help. 48:48 Do the husband and wife come? 48:50 How does this work? Yes. 48:52 We have a course that is basically 48:56 it's geared from John Regier. 48:59 He has it's Caring From The Heart. 49:02 And we had someone years ago that came to us and said, 49:06 "You know, this man is not an Adventist, 49:08 but he has a lot of good resources. 49:11 And you guys being in ministry, 49:13 you might want to consider this." 49:15 And so everything he has is biblical based. 49:19 And so we tried to go from that 49:20 and along with Spirit of Prophecy. 49:23 And we have been able to work with several couples. 49:27 And the Lord has blessed in that area as well. 49:30 We're finding that especially a lot of individuals 49:34 that are missionaries that, 49:37 you know, they are divorcing, or going through divorce. 49:39 And so and we as a church, as a body 49:42 we need to really pray and encourage 49:44 and give wisdom to these individuals. 49:46 And lot of it deals with finances, 49:48 that's the core of it. 49:50 And so I mean, I know there's other issues 49:51 but the ones that we work 49:53 with seems like it's the financial part of it. 49:55 And so, you know, 49:56 we are trying to work with missionaries. 49:59 And, you know, we do a little soliciting for them 50:02 then they come to us. 50:03 And so we even in our lifestyle program, 50:06 we've counseled with a lot of marriages over the years, 50:10 then again it was not our goal, our focus. 50:14 Just like, you know, we talk about diabetics 50:16 and people that have cancer. 50:17 When we first started this, that was never our intention. 50:20 It's just when God leads, you've got to follow. 50:24 And it's the same thing with the marriage 50:25 or the drug addictions or whatever, 50:28 this is not our intention. 50:30 And so I want to make sure that our viewers know that 50:33 this is not something we intended to do, 50:35 it's just God says, "No, I'm sending you these people." 50:38 And therefore we had to be prepared 50:40 to be able to help them. 50:42 Yes, we want to, 50:44 it's more of a marriage enrichment. 50:48 And the same way with the help that's more of just educating, 50:51 it's a lifestyle. 50:55 And we want to help wherever we can. 50:58 And we're just grateful that the Lord has allowed us 51:01 to continue to bless others. 51:05 I just want to see souls in heaven. 51:08 That's beautiful. 51:09 I have been so encouraged today. 51:11 And I'm sure you have as well. 51:13 If you would like to get in contact with Ben and Lisa, 51:17 and have them come to your church, 51:19 or come to your area, 51:20 we have that contact information 51:22 for you now. 51:25 Eden's Pathway Lifestyle Center 51:28 gives you a unique setting 51:30 to learn simple yet powerful health practices 51:33 that can apply to your life, 51:35 while their staff will help you feel rejuvenated 51:38 in the peaceful scenes of nature. 51:41 To learn more about their lifestyle programs, 51:43 you may call them at (423) 371-2032. 51:49 That's (423) 371-2032. 51:54 You may also write them at Eden's Pathway Lifestyle Center 51:58 411 Robbins Street, 52:01 Sweetwater, Tennessee 37874. |
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