I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome
again to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray.
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And allow me once again
to thank you for sharing
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just a little of
your day with us.
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Again today, we open
up the ASI portfolio.
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At our recent ASI meetings,
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we had a chance to go
around to the various booths.
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We did things a
little differently this time
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rather than bringing
them to the 3ABN booth,
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we took our
cameras and microphones
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to the various booths to
interview these ministries
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in their home booth setting.
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And I think you'll
find this a refreshing way
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to take a look at some of
these wonderful ministries
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that are doing such a
great work for the Lord.
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We've got three up in
this very first section.
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Our interviewer is our
president Danny Shelton.
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He's gonna be looking
at People of Peru Project.
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This ministry
started some 17 years ago
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and you will hear more about
the People of Peru Project.
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Then we take our
cameras to By Grace Charity.
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This is a wonderful new ministry
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from Wally and
Christine Amundson,
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great friends of
ours for many years.
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Wally Amundson
was the ADRA director
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for the inter-America division.
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And this is a new ministry
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that he started in
his quote "retirement"
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that you will find
very, very exciting.
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And then finally
Child Impact International.
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Danny had a chance
to talk with Lia Edwin,
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India sponsorship
manager and Jim Rennie CEO.
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Child Impact International
is a new name for a ministry
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that you've heard for years
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and when you
hear this interview,
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you'll make the connection.
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I won't tell you what it is.
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You'll have a chance to hear
it in this wonderful interview.
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So Danny Shelton with these
three very fine ministries,
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you'll be blessed.
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Well, we're
having fun here at ASI
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going to the different booths
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and enjoying the
ministries of so many people
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to see what they're
doing around the world.
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I'm standing here with
Paul. Paul, how are you doing?
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I'm doing better than I deserve.
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Good.
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I look behind this and I
see People of Peru Project.
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Take a few minutes
and tell our folks at home
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about the
People of Peru Project?
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People of Peru project
came about 17 years ago
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when I made my first trip
down to Peru with my daughter
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who is going on a
school sponsored trip
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and when I was there,
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I saw a tremendous
need suffering of children,
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old people, sick people,
people that just needed help
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and Lord put the
burden on my heart
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and I tell you, it's just
been an amazing ride ever since.
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Long story short, we
started going back and forth
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helping people the
best we could by myself.
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Finding people that had
serious medical and dental needs
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and so just take them
to a private hospital,
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paying for those services
and just seeing something
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accomplished in
a very short time.
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And it evolved into meeting
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some local people
that needed some help
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and they started
helping me help other people.
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Ultimately I found two
little girls on the streets
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that had been abandoned
by the death of their mom
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and so we
ultimately, long story short
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there we adopted
them and raised them
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and now they are living
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in the streets
of the United States
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with our grandkids.
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Not really the streets but...
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Yeah. So that happened.
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We wanted to build
a facility for kids
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just like the
daughters that we adopted.
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So now we've got a crisis center
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for abandoned and
abused girls and their babies.
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We developed a medical program
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and over 60,000
people now have been given
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free medical and dental services
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because of that initial group
that drove me along to Quito.
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Since been a real blessing.
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Tell me a little
bit about the support.
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We know all this is not free.
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How do people like
our viewers at home,
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they are looking at projects,
the Lord is impressing them.
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What can we do to
support your work?
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Well, of course, we need
donations like everybody else.
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But we also need the passion
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and the
expertise of the volunteers
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and we love volunteer groups,
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and if somebody wants to come
and do a children's ministry
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or evangelistic meetings
or medical or dental work
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or construction,
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there are so much work to do
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and if we, if you
have the heart for service,
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and if you want to
experience a part of the world
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maybe you've never seen before,
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then the Lord has
plenty of divine appointments
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waiting for us if
somebody just wants to come.
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Absolutely.
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Do you have a website
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or something people could go to?
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We do.
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It's peopleofperu.org and
there is a place on there.
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Well, no surprise if
there is a donation button
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right there on that page.
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Okay, peopleofperu.org.
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So if the Holy
Spirit is impressing
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and you would like to support,
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you may do so at
peopleofperu.org.
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Right?
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Well, thank you so
much for what you're doing
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to help the less
fortunate around the world.
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Well, it's been a blessing
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and we've had
over 5,000 volunteers
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in the last 14 years
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and I can tell you,
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the volunteers are the
lifeblood of what we do
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because God utilizes
their talents, their passion,
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their resources and their energy
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and it's all for
the glory of God.
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It's been a real blessing.
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All right. Thank you so much.
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Thank you. Okay.
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We've stopped by
another booth here
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and I'm talking to
Wally and Christine Amundson,
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and how you all doing?
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Fine, thank you, Danny.
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Very good, thank you.
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Well, we are here.
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Your, name of your
ministry By Grace Charity.
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So that's your
ministry that is we stopped by,
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we saw a chicken, it
says, ask us about the chicken.
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Tell us a little
bit about your ministry
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and how does the chicken fit in?
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Well, okay, thank you Danny.
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It's a real pleasure
to be here with everybody
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that's so focused on
helping carry on God's work.
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This chicken actually
took a Seventh-day Adventist
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that was in poverty
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and transformed him into
a donor within two months.
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Okay, well, I
want to hear it. Okay.
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So what we did was
we contacted the people
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in different fields around
inter-America and other places
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and we asked them
if you had $1500 cash,
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would you be able to help
some of our members in poverty
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and they said of course.
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And we said, would you
help the rest of the community
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at the same
time not be exclusive
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and they said yes,
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and then we
added another question.
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We said, would
you involve the pastor
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and they said yes.
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And then we said one more thing,
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would you ask the receiving
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and the people that
receive the gift, free gift,
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if they'll turn around
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and make a gift to someone else
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as soon as they have extra?
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Okay.
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And it's a unanimous yes.
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All right.
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So for $1500, these families,
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about ten families
are grouped together.
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The pastor figures out
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how they can start a
little micro industry,
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chickens or fish
or goats or tomatoes
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and when they can
add to their income
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and then they
have a little extra,
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they are willing to
help their neighbor.
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Oh, I got it.
Okay, that's a good idea.
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So the chicken could be
a fish or something else.
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Right. But it's industry.
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So it's a way you don't
just give somebody fish,
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you teach them how to fish.
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Correct.
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It's kind of what
you're doing, right?
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Now, what we're really hoping
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because we know that
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when somebody is
really destitute,
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they have sympathy for others.
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And so we're really hoping
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that these people
will really band together
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and the pastor can use that
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as a vehicle for
spreading the gospel.
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Okay.
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We only have a
minute or so left.
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Tell us at folks at home
who are impressed to support you
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or they want to find
out information about you,
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Christine, how would
they get a hold of you?
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Well, we have a website
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and so that will be
very easy to get into it.
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It's just the
name By Grace Charity.
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And then... Dot com, dot org?
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Dot com, and then
there will be a newsletter
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and we'll keep them informed
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about what is
happening in the field
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and how much resulted
from all of these gift
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and how many
people have been blessed.
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Okay, wonderful.
Thank you so much.
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Some of the people
stopping by wanted us to explain
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where the funds come from?
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All right, we got 30 seconds.
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Okay.
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Christine and I decide to save
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our first year
of retirement checks
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from the
Inter-American division.
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And we made it a
firstfruits offering to the Lord
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and that is what is
funding this charity.
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All right.
Well, praise the Lord.
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Thank you so much
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for what you're
doing for the cause of God.
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Hi, I'm privileged to
be talking to Jim Rennie.
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Jim, how are you doing?
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Danny, good to see you.
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Good, good and Lia, Lia Edwin.
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How are you Lia? I'm good.
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Oh, wonderful.
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Jim, tell us a little bit
about Child Impact ministry,
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and I know
you've had a name change
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and tell us about it?
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Well, many of the viewers
will know us as Asian Aid USA
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and we took a big step this week
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and we changed our name to
Child Impact International.
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We think it far
better reflects what we do,
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avoids a lot of
confusion on Asia.
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So we are Child
Impact International.
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Nothing has changed.
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We do exactly the same
thing with the same organization
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but we've changed our name.
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Okay, good.
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Lia tell us what
you do at Child Impact?
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I work for the
sponsorship department.
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I head the department
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and we have around
seven field officers.
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Seven, okay. Yeah.
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Who go to our
schools and do the checking.
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Okay. And...
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And you're checking,
you're checking on the children?
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Yes.
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You have any idea how
many children you check on?
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We have around 3,500 children.
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Oh, wow, that's wonderful.
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What she didn't say,
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she is in
Bangalore, India office.
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She's in the
Bangalore, India office.
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So you're the local
representative there,
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so that way you can
keep an eye on everything.
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And tell us how as this ministry
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impacted your life?
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What's it do for you
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knowing that you're
helping so many children?
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I mean, it's a blessing to
help so many children and...
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Yeah, so, before
you were in ministry,
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what did you do?
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I was working for
the church actually.
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So now you still work for
the church in a different way?
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In a different way.
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Because you're
still ministering to those
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that Jesus says, you know,
suffer not the little children
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that come unto me.
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So what a blessing to have you
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and I'm sure you're a
great asset to Child Impact.
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So Jim, once
again, Child Impact.
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You're still
doing the work you do.
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For those that don't know,
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tell us just a
little bit what do you do?
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What does Child Impact
do for young people there?
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We're a fully supportive
ministry of the church
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and our key activity
is child sponsorship.
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We take a child based on need
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and put them on an
Adventist mission school.
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So all our children
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are in
Adventist mission schools.
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So that's our key activity.
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We also help
fund for orphanages,
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school for the blind and
school for the deaf in India.
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And in recent times,
we've expanded into Myanmar
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which puts us
into six countries.
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Now, I can tell by
being in business myself
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that doesn't come cheap.
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It takes a lot of finances.
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How do people support,
where do your finances come from
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and how can our viewers help?
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Well, our finances
come purely from donations,
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and there is two ways you
can be involved or three ways.
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You can sponsor a child
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and that ranges
from $28 to $38 a month.
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You can contribute
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to the
unsponsored children fund,
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and we also have
projects like orphanages
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that you can contribute to.
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Wonderful.
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Do you have an address,
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maybe a website
people could go to?
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Well, I think the
simplest way at the moment
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is childimpact.org.
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So childimpact, one word, .org.
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Okay.
00:13:17.36\00:13:18.69
Jim, thank you so
much for what you've done
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for the cause of
God for so many years
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around the world.
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With Asian Aid now Child Impact
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and, Lia, thank you so
much for what you're doing
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for the cause of God.
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As a dear friend
of mine used to say,
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did you get it
or did you miss it?
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The ministry that is now called
Child Impact International
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used to be called Asian Aid USA.
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Same ministry just some
different people at the head.
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Jim Rennie is
still very much on board
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and it's still a
wonderful ministry
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doing a great, great
work in India and Bangladesh
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and the Southern Asia
part of our world field
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and doing a great work
00:14:01.27\00:14:02.60
and they certainly
deserve your support.
00:14:02.64\00:14:04.21
They've been
working for many, many years
00:14:04.24\00:14:06.11
under the
leadership of Helen Hager,
00:14:06.14\00:14:07.68
you will recall,
00:14:07.71\00:14:09.04
but still doing a
great work for the Lord.
00:14:09.08\00:14:10.81
Now, in this section,
00:14:10.85\00:14:12.28
Danny Shelton
interviews Kibidula Farms.
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Kibidula Farms and Kibidula
Farms is located in Tanzania.
00:14:16.25\00:14:22.76
So we're gonna hear
about the great work
00:14:22.79\00:14:24.59
that they are doing
00:14:24.63\00:14:26.29
with 140
students in primary school
00:14:26.33\00:14:29.06
and 65 lay
evangelism projects going on.
00:14:29.10\00:14:33.94
You hear about Kibidula Farms,
Jason Fournier is director
00:14:33.97\00:14:37.27
and Antionette
Fournier is a volunteer
00:14:37.31\00:14:40.38
and they will be
talking about that great work.
00:14:40.41\00:14:42.68
That will be
followed by Amazing Facts.
00:14:42.71\00:14:44.85
You know that name.
00:14:44.88\00:14:46.21
You know the speaker/director
is Doug Batchelor,
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Danny and Doug get a chance
00:14:48.28\00:14:49.62
to talk about some of the things
00:14:49.65\00:14:51.09
that Amazing Facts is and will
be doing very, very shortly.
00:14:51.12\00:14:55.16
And finally in this section,
Danny talks with Mark Finley,
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international evangelist,
someone we know very well.
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Some time ago he began a
Living Hope School of Evangelism
00:15:03.16\00:15:07.80
there in Virginia
00:15:07.84\00:15:09.57
doing a very, very
fine job up and running,
00:15:09.60\00:15:12.27
and we want to hear about
00:15:12.31\00:15:13.64
what Mark is doing to
carry on the legacy of the work
00:15:13.68\00:15:16.91
that he's done for
so many, many years.
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These three, very exciting,
very diverse ministries,
00:15:20.78\00:15:23.89
all doing a great
work for the Lord.
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Let's take a look.
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I'm standing here and talking
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to Jason and Antionette Fournier
00:15:30.73\00:15:33.90
and you all are
doing mission work,
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great mission work
00:15:36.20\00:15:37.77
in another part of the world
rather than here in America.
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Tell us where you're working,
and what it is that you do?
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Okay. I live in a place
called Kibidula in Tanzania.
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It's East Africa
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and we run a mission station
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where we have a
school of agriculture.
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We educate young people,
mostly high school dropouts
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and even
primary school dropouts.
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Give them life
skills, how to live
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and be successful not
just in life but as Christians,
00:16:02.69\00:16:07.30
and we run a printing press
00:16:07.33\00:16:09.56
where we print literature,
mostly texts and Bible studies.
00:16:09.60\00:16:14.00
We publish books for sale
into the colporteur system
00:16:14.04\00:16:18.71
and we have a primary school.
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We have 140 kids
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that are, yeah, just
at our place learning.
00:16:23.28\00:16:26.35
And we have a lay
missionary training center
00:16:26.38\00:16:28.88
where we train about 65
lay evangelists every year.
00:16:28.92\00:16:31.99
These are people who
come from churches in Tanzania
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for five months at a time
00:16:34.69\00:16:36.06
to learn how to be more
effective in soul winning.
00:16:36.09\00:16:38.63
And then what we
do is every year,
00:16:38.66\00:16:40.06
we choose some of the
best of these lay missionaries
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to go out to
unreached parts in Tanzania
00:16:42.96\00:16:45.97
to work as Bible workers,
raising up new companies.
00:16:46.00\00:16:48.67
And as a result of this program,
00:16:48.70\00:16:50.64
the need for
churches has been huge
00:16:50.67\00:16:52.47
because the very poor
people in the community,
00:16:52.51\00:16:54.64
they can't afford a roof.
00:16:54.68\00:16:56.64
So they're not
gonna have a church.
00:16:56.68\00:16:58.11
So the one day church program
00:16:58.15\00:16:59.48
has been a huge
blessing to this program.
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So by God's grace we
have been able to build
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over 500 of these churches.
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Five hundred? Yeah.
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In Tanzania.
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Now, I know this takes a
tremendous amount of money.
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Where do you come
up with this money?
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Is there something
that our folk at home
00:17:12.43\00:17:14.73
that our viewers
because 3ABN viewers,
00:17:14.76\00:17:16.90
they are the greatest,
greatest viewers in the world
00:17:16.93\00:17:19.20
because they are
not just viewers,
00:17:19.23\00:17:20.57
they are supporters too.
00:17:20.60\00:17:22.00
So tell us a little bit
what you would like for us to do
00:17:22.04\00:17:25.81
to help continue
this great ministry?
00:17:25.84\00:17:28.14
Well, first of all,
I would like to say,
00:17:28.18\00:17:29.98
we covet your prayers.
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I mean, if everyone
00:17:31.38\00:17:33.01
who is hearing
this, pray for us.
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I believe the Lord
would bless even more.
00:17:34.42\00:17:36.55
But the one day church program
00:17:36.58\00:17:38.45
has been a
tremendous blessing in Tanzania,
00:17:38.49\00:17:41.99
housing tens of thousands,
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I mean, many, many
people in a church home.
00:17:44.49\00:17:49.06
There is an aspect of
the one day church program
00:17:49.10\00:17:51.07
that viewers don't realize
00:17:51.10\00:17:52.93
and that is that every
church comes with a budget,
00:17:52.97\00:17:56.00
and every penny that we
save in building the churches
00:17:56.04\00:17:59.27
goes to support the mission.
00:17:59.31\00:18:00.64
So my husband and his team
would go out and build churches
00:18:00.68\00:18:03.35
and he would sleep on
the ground with the guys,
00:18:03.38\00:18:05.25
you know, trying to save money
00:18:05.28\00:18:06.85
because every
penny that remains over
00:18:06.88\00:18:08.82
goes to support the mission.
00:18:08.85\00:18:10.19
So it's more than
just building churches.
00:18:10.22\00:18:12.09
It's really supporting
missions in a broader way.
00:18:12.12\00:18:14.46
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:18:14.49\00:18:15.82
How can we? Do you
have a website we can go to?
00:18:15.86\00:18:18.79
www.kibidula.org.
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K-I-B-I-D-U-L-A.
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Okay.
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We want to thank you
so much for what you do.
00:18:25.37\00:18:26.74
We know, it's not easy,
00:18:26.77\00:18:28.70
especially when you're doing
things in different countries,
00:18:28.74\00:18:31.24
foreign
countries around the world.
00:18:31.27\00:18:33.07
But your
commitment is wonderful.
00:18:33.11\00:18:35.38
I know that God
will continue to lead,
00:18:35.41\00:18:37.58
guide and direct
and bless you abundantly
00:18:37.61\00:18:39.98
more than you all
could ever ask or think.
00:18:40.02\00:18:41.78
I can say one
more thing is just,
00:18:41.82\00:18:43.18
if people can support ASI
00:18:43.22\00:18:44.75
because it's here at ASI
where people come together
00:18:44.79\00:18:48.19
and literally just brainstorm
00:18:48.22\00:18:50.43
and so many new
mission projects are born here
00:18:50.46\00:18:53.46
just half an hour ago,
00:18:53.50\00:18:55.20
we were thinking
this, this is amazing.
00:18:55.23\00:18:57.73
We can add this to our program
00:18:57.77\00:18:59.10
just someone
sharing what they're doing
00:18:59.13\00:19:00.64
in the business world
00:19:00.67\00:19:02.00
and so ASI has just been super,
super good in helping missions
00:19:02.04\00:19:06.01
to grow their infrastructure
and their programs
00:19:06.04\00:19:08.14
and if the
people can support ASI,
00:19:08.18\00:19:09.61
they are
supporting the missions.
00:19:09.64\00:19:10.98
All right, great plug for ASI.
00:19:11.01\00:19:13.25
Those of you at
home, you heard it.
00:19:13.28\00:19:14.88
ASI is a great organization.
00:19:14.92\00:19:16.65
This is my 32nd ASI to come to
00:19:16.69\00:19:19.89
and it's been wonderful to
work with people like you all
00:19:19.92\00:19:22.52
and the folks here
00:19:22.56\00:19:23.89
that are committed to sharing
Jesus in the marketplace.
00:19:23.93\00:19:26.46
Thank you. Thank you.
00:19:26.49\00:19:27.83
Thank you, Danny.
00:19:27.86\00:19:29.20
I'm standing here
with Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:19:29.23\00:19:30.73
Hey, Doug. Hello, Danny.
00:19:30.77\00:19:32.10
How are you doing?
00:19:32.13\00:19:33.47
Well, I'm always doing good
00:19:33.50\00:19:35.24
but today I'm
doing a little better.
00:19:35.27\00:19:36.87
I want to share with
you about a little miracle
00:19:36.91\00:19:39.01
that happened last night
00:19:39.04\00:19:40.44
and the Lord used
you as part of it.
00:19:40.48\00:19:43.11
Now this is totally unrehearsed.
00:19:43.14\00:19:44.81
He doesn't know, right?
You have no idea what I'm...
00:19:44.85\00:19:46.18
I don't know
what you're gonna say.
00:19:46.21\00:19:47.55
You don't know
what I'm gonna say.
00:19:47.58\00:19:48.92
I really don't
know what you gonna say.
00:19:48.95\00:19:50.29
All right.
00:19:50.32\00:19:51.65
Well, last
evening, I got a phone call
00:19:51.69\00:19:53.29
about probably quarter
to nine in the evening,
00:19:53.32\00:19:55.82
meetings were just about over
00:19:55.86\00:19:57.63
and my sister all of a sudden,
00:19:57.66\00:19:59.66
your brother Kenny had
to go to the emergency room.
00:19:59.69\00:20:02.56
He'd had open heart
surgery some months ago
00:20:02.60\00:20:04.67
and still really
has a lot of issues
00:20:04.70\00:20:06.87
that he's been fighting.
00:20:06.90\00:20:08.24
So he was in AFib
and his pulse is racing.
00:20:08.27\00:20:11.34
It goes up to as
high as 175 beats a minute
00:20:11.37\00:20:14.98
and so here we are at ASI
00:20:15.01\00:20:17.68
and so we start to leave
and Yvonne's going with me
00:20:17.71\00:20:19.78
but we are meeting people
00:20:19.81\00:20:22.38
and they want to talk
and I said, I'm sorry.
00:20:22.42\00:20:24.22
So she says, let's
just go up the escalator
00:20:24.25\00:20:26.86
and to the second
foyer we can get across
00:20:26.89\00:20:29.76
and get to the hospital.
00:20:29.79\00:20:31.63
As we go up to the second floor,
00:20:31.66\00:20:33.60
right behind us on an escalator
was Doug Batchelor by himself
00:20:33.63\00:20:37.30
which, you don't
catch Doug at these meetings
00:20:37.33\00:20:39.33
by himself very often.
00:20:39.37\00:20:41.17
I told you what was happening
and you said, let's do what?
00:20:41.20\00:20:44.04
Let's pray. Let's pray.
00:20:44.07\00:20:45.57
And we said our
prayer, by that time
00:20:45.61\00:20:47.08
it's probably five to
nine something like this.
00:20:47.11\00:20:49.98
We said a prayer
for Kenny, right?
00:20:50.01\00:20:51.35
Right.
00:20:51.38\00:20:52.71
So Yvonne and I
went to the hospital.
00:20:52.75\00:20:54.75
It took us a while to get there,
00:20:54.78\00:20:56.48
probably 20
minutes to get a taxi,
00:20:56.52\00:20:58.55
we were anxious to get there
00:20:58.59\00:21:00.16
and then
another 20 minute drive.
00:21:00.19\00:21:01.96
So I get to the
hospital, I go in.
00:21:01.99\00:21:04.59
I go in Kenny's room,
00:21:04.63\00:21:05.96
they say, oh, he's in bed 11
00:21:05.99\00:21:08.43
and he's setting
up, he's smiling.
00:21:08.46\00:21:10.47
He looks fine.
00:21:10.50\00:21:11.83
His pulse is normal.
00:21:11.87\00:21:13.20
I look at his blood pressure.
00:21:13.23\00:21:14.57
I look at all of his
vitals and they look good,
00:21:14.60\00:21:17.91
and I said, "How are you doing?"
00:21:17.94\00:21:19.27
He said, "I'm fine."
00:21:19.31\00:21:21.11
I said, "What happened?"
00:21:21.14\00:21:22.91
And the doctor came in and said,
00:21:22.94\00:21:24.58
"We just did all your tests,
00:21:24.61\00:21:26.48
everything is back to
normal, is totally normal."
00:21:26.51\00:21:29.48
They don't know why
but they are normal.
00:21:29.52\00:21:31.55
Kenny said, "I can
tell you what happened
00:21:31.59\00:21:34.12
and he looked over to me
00:21:34.16\00:21:35.49
and he said, you
guys were praying."
00:21:35.52\00:21:37.63
He said it a
little bit before nine,
00:21:37.66\00:21:39.86
right before 9
o'clock everything stopped.
00:21:39.89\00:21:42.86
My heart was out of rhythm,
00:21:42.90\00:21:44.33
all of a sudden
this peace came over.
00:21:44.37\00:21:46.33
I totally feel normal
00:21:46.37\00:21:48.37
and God touched
me and healed me,
00:21:48.40\00:21:50.74
right then I feel, feel,
00:21:50.77\00:21:53.27
he said, "I just felt so normal"
00:21:53.31\00:21:54.71
and his color was back,
00:21:54.74\00:21:56.28
everything looked
so great nice and well.
00:21:56.31\00:21:58.78
Kenny, exactly that time
00:21:58.81\00:22:00.48
Yvonne and Pastor Doug
and I were praying for you.
00:22:00.52\00:22:03.52
So he said, "Tell Pastor Doug,
thank you that God used you
00:22:03.55\00:22:07.62
to give him back to
normal, for healing.
00:22:07.66\00:22:11.13
Praise the Lord.
00:22:11.16\00:22:12.49
We just need to thank the
Lord, that's wonderful news.
00:22:12.53\00:22:14.46
I praise the Lord,
00:22:14.50\00:22:15.83
tell Kenny, that we are
just so excited for him.
00:22:15.86\00:22:17.33
Well, here is the
other thing that happened.
00:22:17.37\00:22:19.43
As I was leaving his room,
00:22:19.47\00:22:20.94
someone down in
the emergency room
00:22:20.97\00:22:23.87
started saying, hey
come here, come here.
00:22:23.91\00:22:26.47
I don't know who is there.
00:22:26.51\00:22:27.84
I'm not the doctor
so I just kept walking.
00:22:27.88\00:22:31.05
My sister and
all came and got me.
00:22:31.08\00:22:32.55
She said, 'There is a
man that has to see you.
00:22:32.58\00:22:35.38
He's been
watching 3ABN for 20 years.
00:22:35.42\00:22:38.05
He started in Las Vegas
00:22:38.09\00:22:39.89
but he wants to you to
come and pray with him."
00:22:39.92\00:22:42.99
So I went, his name is Warren,
Warren, if you're watching.
00:22:43.02\00:22:46.26
So we prayed for Warren
and it gave Warren assurance.
00:22:46.29\00:22:48.83
He was having the
defibrillator put in
00:22:48.86\00:22:51.93
and I said, God
had Kenny's back,
00:22:51.97\00:22:54.00
He's got your back and
so we are able to pray,
00:22:54.04\00:22:55.90
so you're praying
00:22:55.94\00:22:57.27
and all of that
was a great blessing.
00:22:57.31\00:22:58.84
You know, praise the Lord.
Thank you so much for that.
00:22:58.87\00:23:00.48
Well, that's God's
providence. We just praise God.
00:23:00.51\00:23:02.64
And we thank Him
right now. Absolutely.
00:23:02.68\00:23:04.68
What I want to do is
00:23:04.71\00:23:06.05
take another
couple of minutes or so.
00:23:06.08\00:23:07.42
Tell us about Amazing Facts
and what's your new projects,
00:23:07.45\00:23:10.09
what you're working on?
00:23:10.12\00:23:11.45
Well, we are very excited
about something coming up.
00:23:11.49\00:23:13.32
We're doing again in
partnership with 3ABN
00:23:13.36\00:23:16.62
where we're gonna be
broadcasting a program
00:23:16.66\00:23:18.39
from the general
conference headquarters
00:23:18.43\00:23:20.76
called "Foundation of Faith"
00:23:20.80\00:23:22.50
and it will be on
3ABN, Hope channel, AFTV.
00:23:22.53\00:23:25.67
Gonna be a special revival
00:23:25.70\00:23:27.87
immediately
after the anniversary
00:23:27.90\00:23:30.54
of the 500 year
anniversary of the signing of...
00:23:30.57\00:23:34.08
I shouldn't say signing,
00:23:34.11\00:23:35.44
the posting of the
95 thesis by Luther
00:23:35.48\00:23:39.15
and a lot of
things are happening
00:23:39.18\00:23:40.52
in the church, in the world.
00:23:40.55\00:23:42.08
And when I say, church, I
mean Christian church at large
00:23:42.12\00:23:44.29
and so, I think it's
gonna be a really important time
00:23:44.32\00:23:46.55
for us to resonate
00:23:46.59\00:23:48.42
what the continuation
00:23:48.46\00:23:50.19
of the
reaffirmation will look like.
00:23:50.23\00:23:51.93
All right. So we're doing that.
00:23:51.96\00:23:53.60
Doing the New Prophecy series
00:23:53.63\00:23:55.36
on 40 prophecies that
prove the Bible is true.
00:23:55.40\00:23:58.43
We're involved in building
an evangelism training center.
00:23:58.47\00:24:00.84
There is a lot going on
with Amazing Facts right now.
00:24:00.87\00:24:03.27
So you're not in
a shut down mode,
00:24:03.30\00:24:05.04
or rest, or relax mode at all?
00:24:05.07\00:24:06.68
You're going forward.
00:24:06.71\00:24:08.04
No, the world's ending
00:24:08.08\00:24:09.41
so we need to
get the message out.
00:24:09.44\00:24:10.78
We're doing everything we can.
00:24:10.81\00:24:12.15
The blessing of
God is on the go.
00:24:12.18\00:24:13.52
We don't have a
chance to do this too often
00:24:13.55\00:24:14.88
but for the folks at
home, our 3ABN viewers
00:24:14.92\00:24:17.42
are some of the greatest
supporters in the world.
00:24:17.45\00:24:19.19
They don't just
pray a lot of them,
00:24:19.22\00:24:20.76
they're able to pray
and financially support.
00:24:20.79\00:24:23.22
Do you have a website or
something that folks at home
00:24:23.26\00:24:26.03
and they're praying
and say, what should I do,
00:24:26.06\00:24:28.16
the Lord's blessed
me with extra finances
00:24:28.20\00:24:31.20
or maybe they're just saying,
00:24:31.23\00:24:32.57
I want to give somewhere
00:24:32.60\00:24:34.04
and not sure what to do
00:24:34.07\00:24:35.40
and the Holy
Spirit says Amazing Facts.
00:24:35.44\00:24:37.37
How can we support
00:24:37.41\00:24:38.74
Doug Batchelor
and Amazing Facts?
00:24:38.77\00:24:40.98
Bless your heart.
00:24:41.01\00:24:42.34
Simply go to the
Amazing Facts website.
00:24:42.38\00:24:44.58
It's just amazingfacts.org
00:24:44.61\00:24:47.48
and there will be a place there,
00:24:47.52\00:24:48.88
it says contribute, or
donate, or support the ministry
00:24:48.92\00:24:51.79
and you can see all
the different projects
00:24:51.82\00:24:53.66
and we really appreciate that.
00:24:53.69\00:24:55.02
I've said this before publicly
00:24:55.06\00:24:56.76
and nearly 30
years you've been on 3ABN
00:24:56.79\00:25:00.50
that we've had and still have
00:25:00.53\00:25:02.76
tremendous
amounts of ministries,
00:25:02.80\00:25:04.97
but I don't know of any
that we've got more responses
00:25:05.00\00:25:07.90
from over a period
of decades of saying,
00:25:07.94\00:25:11.14
thank you 3ABN for what you do
and for having Doug Batchelor.
00:25:11.17\00:25:15.64
Of course, we get
a lot of others too
00:25:15.68\00:25:17.25
but your name comes up
constantly probably everyday.
00:25:17.28\00:25:20.68
Thank you for
having Doug Batchelor
00:25:20.72\00:25:22.28
and Amazing Facts
00:25:22.32\00:25:23.65
because of that
we came to Jesus,
00:25:23.69\00:25:25.95
and many times
00:25:25.99\00:25:27.72
and are now joined the
Seventh-day Adventist church.
00:25:27.76\00:25:29.59
So, Doug, your
impact around the world,
00:25:29.62\00:25:32.23
you'll never know
until you get to heaven
00:25:32.26\00:25:34.16
and so you're gonna
have many, many stars.
00:25:34.20\00:25:36.10
Likewise.
00:25:36.13\00:25:37.47
You're gonna have,
you're gonna have to somebody
00:25:37.50\00:25:38.83
carry your crown around
00:25:38.87\00:25:40.20
'cause you won't be
able to carry it all
00:25:40.24\00:25:41.57
with so many stars.
00:25:41.60\00:25:42.94
I just want to be there.
00:25:42.97\00:25:44.31
I don't care how
big the crown is.
00:25:44.34\00:25:45.67
I just want to be there.
00:25:45.71\00:25:47.04
That's the important
part of just being there.
00:25:47.08\00:25:48.41
So once again,
thank you so much.
00:25:48.44\00:25:49.78
Thank you, Danny.
00:25:49.81\00:25:51.15
Praise Lord for Kenny
00:25:51.18\00:25:52.51
and for the miracle in his life.
00:25:52.55\00:25:53.88
Yeah. It's good news.
00:25:53.92\00:25:55.25
I knew you'd be
interested in hearing that.
00:25:55.28\00:25:56.62
I am, right.
00:25:56.65\00:25:57.99
I'm standing here
with pastor, evangelist
00:25:58.02\00:25:59.35
and author Mark Finley.
00:25:59.39\00:26:00.72
Brother Mark, how
are you doing today?
00:26:00.76\00:26:02.09
I'm doing really well.
00:26:02.12\00:26:03.46
Oh, wow, it's
great to see you here
00:26:03.49\00:26:04.83
and of course ASI has
been a big part of your life
00:26:04.86\00:26:07.06
for so many
years as well as mine.
00:26:07.10\00:26:08.66
How many years
you've been coming to ASI?
00:26:08.70\00:26:10.17
I think I've been
coming for almost 30 years.
00:26:10.20\00:26:12.67
Missed a few years
00:26:12.70\00:26:14.04
but I've been here
mostly all the time.
00:26:14.07\00:26:15.50
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:15.54\00:26:16.87
We always enjoy
running into Pastor Mark
00:26:16.91\00:26:18.61
because he has,
always has incredible stories
00:26:18.64\00:26:21.88
about what God is
doing around the world.
00:26:21.91\00:26:24.15
And the reason I say
that is I always say,
00:26:24.18\00:26:26.41
Mark, the blessing
of God is on the go.
00:26:26.45\00:26:28.68
So if there is anybody
that goes around the world,
00:26:28.72\00:26:32.45
it's this man.
00:26:32.49\00:26:33.82
I travel a lot but he travels
a whole lot more than I do.
00:26:33.86\00:26:36.52
In fact, while
we are on that note,
00:26:36.56\00:26:38.26
tell us a little bit about some
of your international travels
00:26:38.29\00:26:40.80
and how God is blessing?
00:26:40.83\00:26:42.43
Not long ago,
we were in Bulgaria
00:26:42.46\00:26:44.20
and I am so thrilled with what
God's doing around the world.
00:26:44.23\00:26:46.97
You know, when you see
the moving of the Holy Spirit,
00:26:47.00\00:26:49.77
it is remarkable.
00:26:49.80\00:26:51.17
A little funny story
about television, you'll enjoy.
00:26:51.21\00:26:53.48
We were
streaming our programs live
00:26:53.51\00:26:56.11
and I got a little
note from two young men,
00:26:56.14\00:26:58.58
maybe 11 or 12 years old.
00:26:58.61\00:27:00.42
They said, Pastor Mark,
00:27:00.45\00:27:02.25
we are sitting on the couch
00:27:02.28\00:27:04.12
eating popcorn
watching your programs,
00:27:04.15\00:27:07.12
but we made a
decision for Christ
00:27:07.16\00:27:09.46
and put the popcorn aside
00:27:09.49\00:27:10.99
and knelled down and
made a decision for baptism.
00:27:11.03\00:27:13.06
Amen.
00:27:13.09\00:27:14.43
So, you see, you never
know what's gonna happen.
00:27:14.46\00:27:16.67
One night, I came into
our meetings at about 5:30
00:27:16.70\00:27:20.37
in the auditorium that we
were in Plovdiv, Bulgaria.
00:27:20.40\00:27:23.84
And as I came in, I
noticed on the left hand side
00:27:23.87\00:27:27.38
a group of people sitting
00:27:27.41\00:27:29.24
and it was before the meeting
00:27:29.28\00:27:30.61
maybe an hour or hour
and a half before the meeting
00:27:30.65\00:27:32.45
and there were hundred people
sitting on the left hand side.
00:27:32.48\00:27:34.45
I said, this is strange.
00:27:34.48\00:27:36.28
Usually, at hour and a
half before the meeting,
00:27:36.32\00:27:38.55
the auditorium is fairly empty,
maybe a few scattered people
00:27:38.59\00:27:41.19
but a hundred
people standing there
00:27:41.22\00:27:43.26
and sitting there.
00:27:43.29\00:27:44.63
And I looked at them, they
were not ethnic Bulgarians,
00:27:44.66\00:27:47.10
they were gypsies.
00:27:47.13\00:27:48.76
And I went over and
began to talk to them.
00:27:48.80\00:27:50.20
They said, Pastor Mark, we
have watched you in our church
00:27:50.23\00:27:53.87
on streaming video.
00:27:53.90\00:27:55.24
Wow.
00:27:55.27\00:27:56.60
Your messages
came into our village
00:27:56.64\00:28:00.01
and we decided that we had
to start keeping the Sabbath.
00:28:00.04\00:28:03.88
That whole group
began keeping the Sabbath
00:28:03.91\00:28:06.08
and now they were coming
to our evangelistic meeting
00:28:06.11\00:28:09.38
looking forward
00:28:09.42\00:28:10.79
to an evangelistic
meeting in their own village.
00:28:10.82\00:28:13.05
So God has amazing
ways of reaching people.
00:28:13.09\00:28:15.09
Isn't that amazing?
00:28:15.12\00:28:16.46
Absolutely incredible.
00:28:16.49\00:28:17.83
Tell us, I know we
only have a short time,
00:28:17.86\00:28:19.89
or you have a short time
00:28:19.93\00:28:21.26
and tell us a little
bit about your school.
00:28:21.30\00:28:23.16
We are now running what we call
00:28:23.20\00:28:26.07
the Living Hope
School of Evangelism.
00:28:26.10\00:28:28.90
It's for pastors and lay people.
00:28:28.94\00:28:30.91
This year, we've
had over 200 pastors
00:28:30.94\00:28:33.71
and lay people come.
00:28:33.74\00:28:35.21
There are three
types of courses.
00:28:35.24\00:28:37.25
One, you can come for a Sunday
00:28:37.28\00:28:40.02
and like on a
Sunday, we might do
00:28:40.05\00:28:42.98
how to give Bible studies.
00:28:43.02\00:28:44.35
Another Sunday, how
to do health programs.
00:28:44.39\00:28:46.05
Another Sunday, how to
reach former Adventists.
00:28:46.09\00:28:48.06
Another Sunday,
maybe lay preaching.
00:28:48.09\00:28:50.16
Have a complete
schedule on our website,
00:28:50.19\00:28:52.43
and then in addition to that
00:28:52.46\00:28:53.83
we have five to
seven day courses.
00:28:53.86\00:28:56.60
These are not to help you
00:28:56.63\00:28:57.97
be a paid Bible
instructor or a paid pastor
00:28:58.00\00:29:00.80
but for pastors
already practicing,
00:29:00.84\00:29:02.64
Bible instructors or lay people
00:29:02.67\00:29:04.67
that want to learn
how to do Bible studies.
00:29:04.71\00:29:07.04
So we have a
courses in growing a church.
00:29:07.08\00:29:09.91
We have courses
in public evangelism,
00:29:09.94\00:29:12.75
and then lastly we
do run in the summertime
00:29:12.78\00:29:15.58
in harmony with
Southern Adventist University,
00:29:15.62\00:29:18.12
we run a course on how
to do better evangelism,
00:29:18.15\00:29:24.66
and it's a course for graduate
or undergraduate students,
00:29:24.69\00:29:27.76
so people actually get
academic credit for it.
00:29:27.80\00:29:29.93
So we are really
excited about our school.
00:29:29.96\00:29:31.83
Our church is reaching
out into the community.
00:29:31.87\00:29:34.20
We've had 42
different programs this year.
00:29:34.24\00:29:37.67
Every Monday night, I
have a Bible study at my house.
00:29:37.71\00:29:40.08
Wow.
00:29:40.11\00:29:41.44
Last Monday
night, 47 people came.
00:29:41.48\00:29:43.41
I didn't know where to put them.
00:29:43.45\00:29:45.81
Praise the Lord.
00:29:45.85\00:29:47.18
It's been a while
since I've been out there
00:29:47.22\00:29:48.55
to see the building
and what you're doing
00:29:48.58\00:29:51.19
and so I'd like
to come out again
00:29:51.22\00:29:52.55
to see the finished product.
00:29:52.59\00:29:53.92
So I'm sure, it's
a wonderful facility.
00:29:53.96\00:29:56.26
We should do a update for folks.
00:29:56.29\00:29:58.19
We would love to have you there
and welcome any of our viewers
00:29:58.23\00:30:01.60
to come out to the
Living Hope Center of Evangelism
00:30:01.63\00:30:05.70
and Church.
00:30:05.73\00:30:07.07
It is in Haymarket, Virginia
5235, Merchants View Square.
00:30:07.10\00:30:13.34
That's about an
hour from Washington DC.
00:30:13.38\00:30:16.11
If on the Sabbath
you're in the area,
00:30:16.14\00:30:18.51
come out to our church.
00:30:18.55\00:30:19.88
I'm there about 35% of my time.
00:30:19.91\00:30:22.78
But you can come out
to any of our classes.
00:30:22.82\00:30:26.55
You can come out to
any of our programs.
00:30:26.59\00:30:28.56
You're certainly welcome.
00:30:28.59\00:30:29.92
All right. Thank you so much.
00:30:29.96\00:30:31.36
You heard that Haymarket.
00:30:31.39\00:30:32.73
That sounds like a little town
00:30:32.76\00:30:34.10
in Southern
Illinois or somewhere
00:30:34.13\00:30:35.53
but that's in Virginia, right?
00:30:35.56\00:30:36.90
It sure is. All right.
00:30:36.93\00:30:38.27
Anything else before we close,
00:30:38.30\00:30:39.63
you want to share with our folk?
00:30:39.67\00:30:41.00
Well, we are looking
forward to a new series
00:30:41.04\00:30:42.90
that we are going to produce
for Three Angels Broadcasting.
00:30:42.94\00:30:46.17
About 20 programs, production
will be this coming November.
00:30:46.21\00:30:51.61
The programs will be
released in February or March,
00:30:51.65\00:30:55.42
a new series on prophecy.
00:30:55.45\00:30:58.19
Where this world is heading?
00:30:58.22\00:31:00.16
People are concerned.
00:31:00.19\00:31:01.52
They look at the world.
00:31:01.56\00:31:02.89
They see the
environmental problems,
00:31:02.92\00:31:04.49
the political problems.
00:31:04.53\00:31:06.16
They see the
problems with war, conflict,
00:31:06.19\00:31:09.33
the economic
problems in the world
00:31:09.36\00:31:11.60
and they are wondering
where can we find the answers.
00:31:11.63\00:31:14.44
Jesus says through the
prophet Isaiah chapter...
00:31:14.47\00:31:17.51
Rather the
Prophet Amos 3, he says,
00:31:17.54\00:31:20.24
"Surely the Lord God will
do nothing but He reveal His
00:31:20.28\00:31:22.74
secrets unto His
servants the prophets."
00:31:22.78\00:31:25.98
If there is ever a time
00:31:26.01\00:31:27.35
that we need to
understand prophecy,
00:31:27.38\00:31:28.82
the prophecies of Daniel
and Revelation, it's today.
00:31:28.85\00:31:32.39
And we're gonna do
a new series, Danny,
00:31:32.42\00:31:33.82
and I'm so
excited about it on 3ABN.
00:31:33.86\00:31:35.79
Absolutely.
00:31:35.82\00:31:37.16
Thank you so much, Pastor Mark,
00:31:37.19\00:31:38.53
for what you do
for the cause of God.
00:31:38.56\00:31:40.16
What you continue to do
and we too look forward,
00:31:40.20\00:31:42.70
and I know our viewers
00:31:42.73\00:31:44.07
will look forward
to this new series.
00:31:44.10\00:31:45.80
Thank you so much and God bless.
00:31:45.83\00:31:47.17
Thanks.
00:31:47.20\00:31:48.54
When I was a child,
00:31:48.57\00:31:49.90
we were always
very, very excited
00:31:49.94\00:31:51.27
to have the
missionaries come home
00:31:51.31\00:31:52.64
and give us some of
the wonderful stories
00:31:52.67\00:31:54.91
of the things
that were happening
00:31:54.94\00:31:56.28
in different parts of the world
00:31:56.31\00:31:57.65
and hopefully you're
getting that same excitement
00:31:57.68\00:31:59.25
as you hear what these
various ministries are doing
00:31:59.28\00:32:02.72
for the cause of Christ.
00:32:02.75\00:32:04.09
In our last section, we go
back to Pastor John Lomacang
00:32:04.12\00:32:08.56
as our interviewer
00:32:08.59\00:32:10.36
and the ministries that
he's going to be interviewing
00:32:10.39\00:32:13.23
are Adventist Child India.
00:32:13.26\00:32:16.63
William Mack is the director
00:32:16.67\00:32:18.63
and we hear about so
much work being done in India
00:32:18.67\00:32:20.94
but it's such a large country,
00:32:20.97\00:32:22.70
such a great country
with such a great work to do.
00:32:22.74\00:32:25.97
This ministry began in 2005,
00:32:26.01\00:32:28.08
40 boarding schools in India
helping to educate children.
00:32:28.11\00:32:32.05
Followed by a personal testimony
00:32:32.08\00:32:34.48
from someone we've
come to know and love
00:32:34.52\00:32:36.08
Dr. Verlyn Benson.
00:32:36.12\00:32:39.32
A wonderful man of God
00:32:39.35\00:32:40.79
who was healed from a
very, very rare form of cancer,
00:32:40.82\00:32:46.59
only give him six months to live
00:32:46.63\00:32:48.00
but now he's doing a great
missionary work for the Lord.
00:32:48.03\00:32:51.63
Number three is Christalis,
00:32:51.67\00:32:56.07
Shalini David is the
president and founder,
00:32:56.10\00:33:00.08
wonderful work
doing things for children.
00:33:00.11\00:33:03.28
And last but not least,
00:33:03.31\00:33:04.68
the Adventist
University of Central Africa.
00:33:04.71\00:33:07.25
We bring back Dr. Verlyn Benson.
00:33:07.28\00:33:09.62
He is the
president of that university
00:33:09.65\00:33:11.99
and has been given
a very specific task
00:33:12.02\00:33:14.76
that he knows
the Lord as part of
00:33:14.79\00:33:16.89
because God saved
him from a rare cancer
00:33:16.93\00:33:20.26
and now he's giving
back to the cause of God
00:33:20.30\00:33:22.46
and to the people of Africa.
00:33:22.50\00:33:24.20
You'll love this.
This is good stuff.
00:33:24.23\00:33:28.07
As we continue here
at ASI in Houston, Texas,
00:33:28.10\00:33:30.51
I'm here with William
Mack of Adventist Child India.
00:33:30.54\00:33:34.21
So good to be with you today.
00:33:34.24\00:33:35.58
Thank you, I
appreciate the opportunity.
00:33:35.61\00:33:37.15
Tell us what is
Adventist Child India?
00:33:37.18\00:33:39.11
Okay, Adventist Child
India is a sponsorship program
00:33:39.15\00:33:41.72
that helps
close to 2000 children
00:33:41.75\00:33:44.05
of the poorest
Adventist children in India
00:33:44.09\00:33:46.45
that come from the villages
00:33:46.49\00:33:47.82
that run around maybe barefooted
00:33:47.86\00:33:49.19
as they're growing up.
00:33:49.22\00:33:50.56
And those are the
ones we are able to help
00:33:50.59\00:33:51.93
through kindergarten through 12
00:33:51.96\00:33:53.29
and even in the
college level now.
00:33:53.33\00:33:55.03
And how did this
vision get started,
00:33:55.06\00:33:56.97
I mean, what's the
longevity behind it?
00:33:57.00\00:33:58.73
Okay.
00:33:58.77\00:34:00.10
Dorothy Watts who was
a missionary in India,
00:34:00.14\00:34:01.50
who had a real
interest in children,
00:34:01.54\00:34:02.87
who saw the need.
00:34:02.90\00:34:04.24
It started in 2005
00:34:04.27\00:34:05.84
and it was for the newly
00:34:05.87\00:34:07.21
baptized
Adventist families in India.
00:34:07.24\00:34:09.31
There were a lot
of them at that time.
00:34:09.34\00:34:10.85
And these poorest families
would never be able to get,
00:34:10.88\00:34:14.05
you know, educate
their children in India
00:34:14.08\00:34:15.75
without help
00:34:15.78\00:34:17.12
because it does cost
money just like here in the US,
00:34:17.15\00:34:19.45
you know, to go to a
private Adventist school there.
00:34:19.49\00:34:21.62
So that's the reason for it.
00:34:21.66\00:34:23.86
And so the best thing about it
00:34:23.89\00:34:26.96
is that now
starting about two years ago,
00:34:27.00\00:34:28.80
we are even in
the college level.
00:34:28.83\00:34:30.33
So those children
00:34:30.37\00:34:31.70
who want to work for
the church afterwards,
00:34:31.73\00:34:33.07
there is a huge
need for teachers
00:34:33.10\00:34:34.74
in the Adventist system.
00:34:34.77\00:34:36.10
There is a lack of
Adventist teachers.
00:34:36.14\00:34:37.47
They could be even
theology majors, do counseling,
00:34:37.51\00:34:40.88
nursing and also some
in the business department.
00:34:40.91\00:34:43.48
Those children will be
able to help right now also.
00:34:43.51\00:34:46.11
So we are really
happy about that.
00:34:46.15\00:34:47.85
Do you have your own facilities
or do you just sponsor children
00:34:47.88\00:34:50.55
to go to facilities
already in existence?
00:34:50.59\00:34:51.92
Okay.
00:34:51.95\00:34:53.29
We work with the
Southern Asia division.
00:34:53.32\00:34:54.66
So our offices are
at Hosur in Tamil Nadu,
00:34:54.69\00:34:57.66
in the state of Tamil Nadu
and there're offices there.
00:34:57.69\00:34:59.86
So we get some help from them
00:34:59.89\00:35:01.50
and we have four people
00:35:01.53\00:35:03.03
besides Nancy, my wife and
I that run the whole program
00:35:03.06\00:35:06.30
and so we
literally cover all of India.
00:35:06.33\00:35:09.50
We have 40 boarding schools
that we are associated with.
00:35:09.54\00:35:12.47
All together there is
about 280 schools in India.
00:35:12.51\00:35:15.21
Most of them are day schools.
00:35:15.24\00:35:16.81
But we only work
with the boarding schools
00:35:16.85\00:35:18.45
because the newly Adventist
kids getting in could have,
00:35:18.48\00:35:22.05
you know,
participation in the worships,
00:35:22.08\00:35:24.39
morning and evening and
Sabbath school and church.
00:35:24.42\00:35:26.72
If they went to a day school,
00:35:26.76\00:35:28.09
they wouldn't
be able to do that.
00:35:28.12\00:35:29.46
So but only six of us,
00:35:29.49\00:35:31.53
you know, do this
00:35:31.56\00:35:32.89
and the best thing is that
when someone were to donate,
00:35:32.93\00:35:35.53
94% of the money that
comes in through the donations
00:35:35.56\00:35:39.40
goes to children.
00:35:39.43\00:35:40.87
Only 6% is kept
by the organization.
00:35:40.90\00:35:42.77
We just don't
have a big overhead.
00:35:42.80\00:35:44.51
Now what are the
ages that are covered
00:35:44.54\00:35:45.87
by the ministry
of Adventist Child?
00:35:45.91\00:35:47.91
Okay, some children
00:35:47.94\00:35:49.38
are as little as
five or six years old
00:35:49.41\00:35:51.01
that start in
LKG, lower kindergarten
00:35:51.05\00:35:53.92
and so not a lot
00:35:53.95\00:35:55.45
but some of them are that young
00:35:55.48\00:35:56.82
going to a boarding school then,
00:35:56.85\00:35:58.19
up to 12th grade.
00:35:58.22\00:35:59.55
So that's usually around 18, 19
00:35:59.59\00:36:01.32
and then again those children
that are giving you commitment
00:36:01.36\00:36:04.89
to work for the
church afterwards,
00:36:04.93\00:36:06.26
we are helping them to college.
00:36:06.29\00:36:07.83
And after this program is done,
00:36:07.86\00:36:09.26
you mentioned briefly
00:36:09.30\00:36:10.63
that some of them go
on to work for the church.
00:36:10.67\00:36:12.53
What about the
impact to their families
00:36:12.57\00:36:14.14
like the moms and dads,
00:36:14.17\00:36:15.50
is there something also
that reaches out to them?
00:36:15.54\00:36:16.91
Okay.
00:36:16.94\00:36:18.27
Yes, I know that
education is really the only way
00:36:18.31\00:36:21.41
to get out of the poverty level
00:36:21.44\00:36:22.98
that a lot of families are in.
00:36:23.01\00:36:25.01
So, yes, they can give
back to their families,
00:36:25.05\00:36:27.88
their community and
their church afterwards.
00:36:27.92\00:36:30.09
Yeah, they can at
least get the education,
00:36:30.12\00:36:32.42
at least till
the 12th grade level
00:36:32.45\00:36:34.42
and it really makes that
big of a difference to them.
00:36:34.46\00:36:36.69
Let's talk about sponsorship.
00:36:36.73\00:36:38.06
How is this afforded and
what are some of the crisis
00:36:38.09\00:36:40.10
and how a person
can get involved?
00:36:40.13\00:36:41.53
Okay. Good question then.
00:36:41.56\00:36:43.97
We have sponsors a program
00:36:44.00\00:36:45.83
that only is $35 a
month, $420 a year.
00:36:45.87\00:36:49.34
You don't have to
pay at all in one time
00:36:49.37\00:36:51.21
but if you want to
pay monthly, that's fine.
00:36:51.24\00:36:52.77
It actually extends
with the general conference
00:36:52.81\00:36:54.71
and the money is then
routed to us in India then.
00:36:54.74\00:36:57.38
So that's all it costs
to really make a big impact,
00:36:57.41\00:37:00.38
the difference
on the child's life
00:37:00.42\00:37:02.08
and what was the other question?
00:37:02.12\00:37:04.55
And how is the money funded?
00:37:04.59\00:37:06.02
In other words, do
you have a website?
00:37:06.05\00:37:07.39
Okay, we do have a website,
00:37:07.42\00:37:08.86
www, of course,
adventistchildindia.org, ORG.
00:37:08.89\00:37:13.66
So it definitely
explains things there,
00:37:13.70\00:37:15.63
and you know, you can see
00:37:15.66\00:37:17.50
definitely how the
program works then.
00:37:17.53\00:37:19.83
Well, Bill, thank you so much
00:37:19.87\00:37:21.20
for giving us the
information we need
00:37:21.24\00:37:22.77
and you know, we know
that lives are gonna be changed
00:37:22.80\00:37:25.17
not only for time
but also for eternity.
00:37:25.21\00:37:27.54
May the Lord bless you.
00:37:27.58\00:37:28.91
We'll continue here at ASI
with other amazing stories.
00:37:28.94\00:37:31.38
This is John Lomacang for 3ABN.
00:37:31.41\00:37:34.55
I have the continued privilege
of talking to Dr. Verlyn Benson
00:37:34.58\00:37:37.79
who is the president
00:37:37.82\00:37:39.15
of the Adventist
University in Central Africa.
00:37:39.19\00:37:41.69
But this is not about education
00:37:41.72\00:37:43.19
but a different
kind of education.
00:37:43.22\00:37:45.03
What we learnt in the
difficult places of life
00:37:45.06\00:37:48.13
where we
sometimes find ourselves.
00:37:48.16\00:37:50.20
Dr. Benson,
you've had experiences
00:37:50.23\00:37:52.87
we become
familiar with the young man
00:37:52.90\00:37:54.80
by the name of Micah Batchelor,
00:37:54.84\00:37:56.54
Pastor Batchelor's
who passed away years ago.
00:37:56.57\00:37:58.84
You spoke to
him about 30 minutes
00:37:58.87\00:38:00.21
before his tragic accident
00:38:00.24\00:38:01.78
and we know the
end of the story.
00:38:01.81\00:38:03.35
But the Lord has allowed you
00:38:03.38\00:38:04.71
to go through
some similar valleys
00:38:04.75\00:38:06.78
where many people don't survive.
00:38:06.82\00:38:08.32
Walk us through
your story today?
00:38:08.35\00:38:11.09
In 2013, I went to for
my annual medical exam.
00:38:11.12\00:38:16.52
My doctor said of all
patients in your age bracket,
00:38:16.56\00:38:20.46
you're the most healthy.
00:38:20.50\00:38:23.16
That made me feel
pretty good that I'm healthy.
00:38:23.20\00:38:26.10
Yet one week later,
00:38:26.13\00:38:27.47
I had a very
severe pain in my abdomen
00:38:27.50\00:38:31.21
and it prompted me
to go back to the doctor
00:38:31.24\00:38:34.38
and he said, wow, I
don't understand this.
00:38:34.41\00:38:37.25
So he did a test,
CT test and biopsy
00:38:37.28\00:38:43.18
and I was diagnosed
with incurable liver cancer.
00:38:43.22\00:38:47.26
I went to the Mayo Clinic
00:38:47.29\00:38:49.19
and I was given one chance
out of a hundred to survive.
00:38:49.22\00:38:54.26
In other words,
the chances of survival
00:38:54.30\00:38:56.46
were just not there.
00:38:56.50\00:38:58.93
Three to six months
to live, the maximum.
00:38:58.97\00:39:01.87
So this is not
really a story about me
00:39:01.90\00:39:05.24
so much is a story of God.
00:39:05.27\00:39:08.58
I had a Russian
secretary for a number of years.
00:39:08.61\00:39:13.11
She was learning to
speak English better.
00:39:13.15\00:39:16.08
We shared 1 Corinthians 13
00:39:16.12\00:39:18.65
and she said, you
know, the final verse
00:39:18.69\00:39:20.66
is not the way
you Americans read it.
00:39:20.69\00:39:23.19
In Russia, we add a
little bit more to it.
00:39:23.22\00:39:26.29
I said, you
can't add to the Bible.
00:39:26.33\00:39:29.36
Well, it says, and the
greatest of these is love.
00:39:29.40\00:39:33.44
That's right.
00:39:33.47\00:39:34.80
However, I said, no the Bible
is however, hope dies last.
00:39:34.84\00:39:40.94
You know, God put
someone in my life
00:39:40.98\00:39:42.51
years before I needed it
00:39:42.54\00:39:44.41
and that ray of
hope changed my approach
00:39:44.45\00:39:47.88
to the
possibility of facing death.
00:39:47.92\00:39:51.29
So the first thing I did
is called my family together
00:39:51.32\00:39:54.59
and asked for a dedication
and anointing at the church.
00:39:54.62\00:39:58.39
I dedicated everyone to the Lord
00:39:58.43\00:40:00.06
and said, if I have
just a few months to live,
00:40:00.10\00:40:02.96
then my family is yours God.
00:40:03.00\00:40:04.80
You take care of
them. I won't be here.
00:40:04.83\00:40:07.34
But now with that said and done,
00:40:07.37\00:40:09.00
I'm gonna claim you
as the God of creation,
00:40:09.04\00:40:11.51
the God of healing
in the 21st century
00:40:11.54\00:40:13.98
and I'm gonna do
everything I can to live
00:40:14.01\00:40:16.08
until you close the door
00:40:16.11\00:40:17.71
because there is
still hope, there is hope.
00:40:17.75\00:40:21.08
And so the journey
was a very difficult one.
00:40:21.12\00:40:25.05
Months of chemotherapy,
00:40:25.09\00:40:27.19
the prospects of
looking at surgery,
00:40:27.22\00:40:29.52
post surgery chemo.
00:40:29.56\00:40:31.79
My wife is a surgical nurse
00:40:31.83\00:40:33.93
and there is
another miracle of God
00:40:33.96\00:40:36.10
because we need to know
00:40:36.13\00:40:39.53
that God draws us
together for a purpose.
00:40:39.57\00:40:41.00
That's right.
00:40:41.04\00:40:42.37
The wife, I have, I'm not
sure there is many other wives
00:40:42.40\00:40:45.81
that would have
helped me survive.
00:40:45.84\00:40:47.94
She put her whole
effort into studying
00:40:47.98\00:40:50.75
and figuring out
as a surgical nurse
00:40:50.78\00:40:52.51
what could she do to
help my chances of survival.
00:40:52.55\00:40:56.08
And one of the first
things she said is okay,
00:40:56.12\00:40:58.52
the eight natural remedies.
00:40:58.55\00:40:59.89
We have a health message.
00:40:59.92\00:41:01.26
Let's make it real in your life.
00:41:01.29\00:41:02.92
She did additional
studying and she said, wow,
00:41:02.96\00:41:05.86
there is a
connection with sugar.
00:41:05.89\00:41:07.70
Are you willing to eliminate?
00:41:07.73\00:41:09.06
Absolutely, I want
to live. That's right.
00:41:09.10\00:41:10.77
I'll throw out
all the refined sugar
00:41:10.80\00:41:13.03
and I had lots of fruit,
that's the natural sugar,
00:41:13.07\00:41:17.41
the antioxidants kill the cancer
00:41:17.44\00:41:18.97
but the refined sugar doesn't.
00:41:19.01\00:41:21.21
So I went
through months of chemo.
00:41:21.24\00:41:24.05
One day the...
00:41:24.08\00:41:26.11
My oncologist
came to me and said,
00:41:26.15\00:41:28.38
I don't know why I do what I do.
00:41:28.42\00:41:30.59
All day, I've
given patients bad news,
00:41:30.62\00:41:33.05
the cancer is growing.
00:41:33.09\00:41:34.42
I was in a
special study with 14.
00:41:34.46\00:41:36.42
All had the same kind.
00:41:36.46\00:41:38.39
One by one they were dying.
00:41:38.43\00:41:40.60
And the doctor said everyone,
today, I had to give bad news.
00:41:40.63\00:41:44.10
You're my last patient.
00:41:44.13\00:41:45.57
But I don't know
what's happening with you.
00:41:45.60\00:41:47.97
Your tumor is
actually shrinking.
00:41:48.00\00:41:50.31
It is smaller.
00:41:50.34\00:41:52.37
And so all of the extra
juicing that my wife was doing,
00:41:52.41\00:41:56.91
the belief in
God, the confidence
00:41:56.95\00:41:59.45
that I have
entrusted my life to God.
00:41:59.48\00:42:01.68
Amen. I am
trusting Him for healing.
00:42:01.72\00:42:04.65
This was the power
that God, so finally,
00:42:04.69\00:42:07.92
after Christmas I went
back to my appointment,
00:42:07.96\00:42:10.66
the doctor just
stared at me in disbelief.
00:42:10.69\00:42:12.93
We don't believe you're alive.
00:42:12.96\00:42:14.30
Wow.
00:42:14.33\00:42:15.66
And so it went to surgery.
00:42:15.70\00:42:17.43
The surgery was supposed to be
an hour to two hours in length.
00:42:17.47\00:42:21.34
It ended up being
seven and a half hours.
00:42:21.37\00:42:23.71
Very, very complex
surgery as they got in
00:42:23.74\00:42:26.11
and realized the cancer was,
00:42:26.14\00:42:29.31
they removed
two-thirds of my liver,
00:42:29.34\00:42:30.68
my gallbladder,
14 lymph nodes etc.
00:42:30.71\00:42:34.58
And afterwards,
very difficult recovery.
00:42:34.62\00:42:38.89
I can remember one
night I was in such agony.
00:42:38.92\00:42:42.32
I have been in pain for so long
00:42:42.36\00:42:46.26
but God has
preserved me thus far.
00:42:46.29\00:42:48.40
But after so much
pain there comes to a point
00:42:48.43\00:42:50.57
where you can't take it.
00:42:50.60\00:42:52.20
It's about 2
o'clock in the morning
00:42:52.23\00:42:54.10
and I called the
nurse and I said,
00:42:54.14\00:42:57.04
I can't tolerate
the pain any longer.
00:42:57.07\00:42:59.87
She said, "But
you're already maxed up.
00:42:59.91\00:43:01.44
I can't give you any
more pain medication."
00:43:01.48\00:43:04.18
And she left.
00:43:04.21\00:43:05.55
I knew without a doubt,
00:43:05.58\00:43:07.52
all I need to
do is close my eyes
00:43:07.55\00:43:09.48
and relax and I'd
never see another dawn.
00:43:09.52\00:43:12.59
I would never see another day.
00:43:12.62\00:43:14.16
Wow, you thought that was it...
00:43:14.19\00:43:15.52
I knew.
00:43:15.56\00:43:17.06
I knew without a question
00:43:17.09\00:43:18.99
but you know right then I
also knew there are people
00:43:19.03\00:43:23.00
around the
world praying for you.
00:43:23.03\00:43:25.53
And right there, I
said, I will not give in.
00:43:25.57\00:43:28.50
I will not allow
myself to just die like that.
00:43:28.54\00:43:32.07
Within 20 minutes, I passed
into the most peaceful sleep.
00:43:32.11\00:43:36.85
This testimony that I
want to encourage others
00:43:36.88\00:43:40.72
is that there is
a God that is real.
00:43:40.75\00:43:44.42
He may have a short path for you
00:43:44.45\00:43:46.19
but He may have a long path.
00:43:46.22\00:43:47.62
That's right.
00:43:47.66\00:43:48.99
You can't go to just
the doctor and say heal me.
00:43:49.02\00:43:51.66
There is a part you have to do.
00:43:51.69\00:43:53.03
There is a part your
family can help you do.
00:43:53.06\00:43:54.96
It's not just a great physician
00:43:55.00\00:43:56.33
but it's a great responsibility.
00:43:56.36\00:43:57.70
There is a great responsibility,
00:43:57.73\00:43:59.07
but then there is
a great physician.
00:43:59.10\00:44:00.44
That's right.
00:44:00.47\00:44:01.80
There is the physician
and this is so wonderful.
00:44:01.84\00:44:04.77
I'm here for the medical school.
00:44:04.81\00:44:06.57
That's right.
00:44:06.61\00:44:07.94
Because I have a
testimony to give every doctor
00:44:07.98\00:44:10.18
and nurse
00:44:10.21\00:44:11.55
we are teaching that
there is a God of healing
00:44:11.58\00:44:14.22
that is alive
in the 21st century
00:44:14.25\00:44:16.08
and God called me to this world.
00:44:16.12\00:44:18.15
Well, Dr. Benson, I
mean, I'll tell you,
00:44:18.19\00:44:20.06
we'd love to give
more of the details.
00:44:20.09\00:44:21.42
I think that somebody
hearing this testimony
00:44:21.46\00:44:23.09
might want to
invite Dr. Benson to come
00:44:23.12\00:44:25.19
and share the extended version
00:44:25.23\00:44:27.30
but God does not open doors
00:44:27.33\00:44:29.03
that He cannot
carry you through.
00:44:29.06\00:44:30.67
And we've discovered as
the other unfortunately,
00:44:30.70\00:44:33.03
the others didn't survive
00:44:33.07\00:44:34.40
but God have a
larger plan for you,
00:44:34.44\00:44:35.77
and here you are now in
the capacity of president
00:44:35.80\00:44:39.31
sharing the testimony,
00:44:39.34\00:44:40.78
making difference in
other people's lives.
00:44:40.81\00:44:42.54
God bless you.
Thank you very much.
00:44:42.58\00:44:43.91
I'll tell you,
miracles still do happen
00:44:43.95\00:44:45.75
and as we have
found out with God,
00:44:45.78\00:44:47.88
there is nothing
that's impossible.
00:44:47.92\00:44:49.28
This is John
coming to you from ASI
00:44:49.32\00:44:51.75
and also on behalf of 3ABN.
00:44:51.79\00:44:53.96
This is John
Lomacang and we continue here
00:44:53.99\00:44:55.92
at ASI 2017 in Houston, Texas
00:44:55.96\00:44:58.09
and I'm with Shalini
David of Christalis ministries.
00:44:58.13\00:45:01.43
Shalini, it's so good
to have you here today.
00:45:01.46\00:45:03.10
Thank you for having me.
00:45:03.13\00:45:04.47
Tell us what
Christalis is by the way.
00:45:04.50\00:45:07.50
Christalis is an organization
00:45:07.54\00:45:10.17
that I started
with my mom and aunt,
00:45:10.21\00:45:12.34
and our mission
is to give children
00:45:12.37\00:45:15.11
that Christian family atmosphere
00:45:15.14\00:45:17.01
that I had growing up.
00:45:17.05\00:45:18.48
When I used to go home on
family vacations to India,
00:45:18.51\00:45:20.72
I would see children in slums,
00:45:20.75\00:45:22.42
and I was small and
all I wanted to do was
00:45:22.45\00:45:24.39
take them home and put
them in my little apartment.
00:45:24.42\00:45:27.36
And as I grew I realized
00:45:27.39\00:45:28.72
it wasn't just
my toys or my food
00:45:28.76\00:45:30.09
I wanted to give them
00:45:30.13\00:45:31.46
but I wanted to
give them the love,
00:45:31.49\00:45:32.86
the affection, the security
and just that Christian home.
00:45:32.89\00:45:37.43
So that's what we aimed to do.
00:45:37.47\00:45:39.07
We take children from
the streets or orphaned,
00:45:39.10\00:45:41.44
abandoned and we give them
that Adventist Christian home.
00:45:41.47\00:45:44.57
We have morning
and evening worship.
00:45:44.61\00:45:46.47
We put them in school,
put them in pathfinders
00:45:46.51\00:45:49.31
and teach them
things about Jesus
00:45:49.34\00:45:51.38
and get them healthcare
and try to motivate them
00:45:51.41\00:45:55.28
to accomplish
their God given dream.
00:45:55.32\00:45:57.32
We have them do vision boards
00:45:57.35\00:45:58.69
and we pray over those
vision boards for them.
00:45:58.72\00:46:00.76
Teach them about positivity,
00:46:00.79\00:46:02.72
and we also try to help
the children in the community
00:46:02.76\00:46:05.19
because many times people
feel they have to lie about
00:46:05.23\00:46:07.86
their children's
situations to get help.
00:46:07.90\00:46:09.80
So to keep them in their homes,
00:46:09.83\00:46:11.40
we started an
assistance program.
00:46:11.43\00:46:13.34
So we help them with
education and healthcare
00:46:13.37\00:46:16.87
if we have the funds.
00:46:16.91\00:46:18.44
And some basic needs, usually,
00:46:18.47\00:46:20.21
they don't have
mattresses or clothing
00:46:20.24\00:46:22.64
and we have about 275
children in the community
00:46:22.68\00:46:25.65
and in our home
we have about 32.
00:46:25.68\00:46:27.98
And...
00:46:28.02\00:46:29.35
So when you say in your home,
00:46:29.38\00:46:30.72
do you have a physical facility
where the children are aided?
00:46:30.75\00:46:32.95
Yes.
00:46:32.99\00:46:34.32
We have a home that
actually Walla Walla University
00:46:34.36\00:46:36.83
helped us build a few years ago.
00:46:36.86\00:46:38.49
It's a miracle of God.
00:46:38.53\00:46:40.16
We had been trying
to raise money for ever
00:46:40.20\00:46:42.20
and then they
came in and helped us.
00:46:42.23\00:46:44.90
There we have a
girl side and a boy side
00:46:44.93\00:46:46.57
and then our common area
00:46:46.60\00:46:47.94
where family can
do stuff together.
00:46:47.97\00:46:50.31
Now, where are the locations
that the ministry has impacted?
00:46:50.34\00:46:54.28
Is it in one part of the world
00:46:54.31\00:46:56.11
or just talk about
the different locations?
00:46:56.14\00:46:57.68
Sure, right now,
we're just in Uganda
00:46:57.71\00:46:59.88
and 'cause I say
Uganda and that's,
00:46:59.91\00:47:01.45
I'm really on because of funds,
00:47:01.48\00:47:02.82
we're trying to also have
started some projects in India
00:47:02.85\00:47:06.12
and then
wherever the Lord leads.
00:47:06.15\00:47:07.62
Our prayer is always that
God takes us to the children
00:47:07.66\00:47:10.33
who are crying out for help
00:47:10.36\00:47:12.06
and there is no other
organization helping them.
00:47:12.09\00:47:14.96
Just whoever, you know,
00:47:15.00\00:47:16.33
there are so many
children suffering,
00:47:16.36\00:47:17.83
there is child
brothels, trafficking,
00:47:17.87\00:47:21.14
child pornography
wherever they are,
00:47:21.17\00:47:23.41
we just want to be
able to go help them.
00:47:23.44\00:47:25.44
What are some of the ways
00:47:25.47\00:47:26.81
that people can get
involved financially,
00:47:26.84\00:47:28.38
sponsorship and what is
the general cost of that?
00:47:28.41\00:47:30.75
Sure.
00:47:30.78\00:47:32.11
We have different
levels of sponsorship.
00:47:32.15\00:47:33.48
If it's in the orphanage,
it's about $120 per month
00:47:33.52\00:47:35.58
but you can split
it with other sponsors
00:47:35.62\00:47:37.82
to $80, 60, 40
whatever you can do.
00:47:37.85\00:47:40.32
And in the
community for elementary,
00:47:40.36\00:47:42.09
it's $20 per month and then
high school is $40 per month
00:47:42.12\00:47:45.33
and then it goes a little higher
00:47:45.36\00:47:46.80
as the education
level goes higher.
00:47:46.83\00:47:49.20
And then we also have
opportunities for volunteers.
00:47:49.23\00:47:51.43
Yeah.
00:47:51.47\00:47:52.80
So in our home especially
we're looking right now
00:47:52.83\00:47:54.70
for a nurse and
maybe a baby caretaker.
00:47:54.74\00:47:57.71
We have three babies. We
got one at eight hours old.
00:47:57.74\00:48:00.91
Right now, there are
six months and a year
00:48:00.94\00:48:03.11
and we are looking
for someone to help us
00:48:03.14\00:48:04.81
with babies and also teachers.
00:48:04.85\00:48:07.02
Because tutoring our kids like
00:48:07.05\00:48:08.42
when we get the
children off the street
00:48:08.45\00:48:10.02
they are 12, 13 and they
are just learning their ABCs.
00:48:10.05\00:48:13.29
So tutoring our kids,
00:48:13.32\00:48:15.32
and just having
educational activities for them.
00:48:15.36\00:48:18.06
We're also
looking for a minister
00:48:18.09\00:48:19.49
who might want to come volunteer
00:48:19.53\00:48:21.06
because our small local church
there doesn't have a pastor
00:48:21.10\00:48:24.13
and our kids don't
get the best experience.
00:48:24.17\00:48:25.87
Wow.
00:48:25.90\00:48:27.24
And for those who
might want to volunteer
00:48:27.27\00:48:29.27
or be a part of the
ministry financially,
00:48:29.30\00:48:31.44
what's the
website they can go to,
00:48:31.47\00:48:32.97
to connect with you?
00:48:33.01\00:48:34.44
Christalis.org.
00:48:34.48\00:48:35.81
CHRISTALIS.org.
00:48:35.84\00:48:39.75
Well, Shalini, thank
you so much, appreciate it,
00:48:39.78\00:48:41.65
and may the Lord bless you
with Christalis ministries,
00:48:41.68\00:48:43.89
12 years now and
continue to grow.
00:48:43.92\00:48:46.45
Right now just in Uganda
00:48:46.49\00:48:47.82
but we know that God has
many, many doors open for you.
00:48:47.86\00:48:49.66
Thank you so much.
00:48:49.69\00:48:51.03
Thank you, thank
you for having me.
00:48:51.06\00:48:52.39
I'll tell you, our
stories continue here at ASI
00:48:52.43\00:48:54.20
and we'd like to
inform you just stay with us.
00:48:54.23\00:48:56.43
There are more
incredible stories to come.
00:48:56.46\00:48:58.57
This is John Lomacang with 3ABN.
00:48:58.60\00:49:01.37
Hello, we are continuing here
at ASI in Houston, Texas 2017,
00:49:01.40\00:49:05.47
and I'm with the president
of the Adventist University
00:49:05.51\00:49:07.58
of Central
Africa, Verlyn Benson.
00:49:07.61\00:49:09.88
So good to have you here today.
00:49:09.91\00:49:11.25
Thank you very much.
00:49:11.28\00:49:12.61
You know, the ministries
of the Adventist church
00:49:12.65\00:49:14.05
are broad and
wide and so many places
00:49:14.08\00:49:16.22
are contributing
in different ways.
00:49:16.25\00:49:17.95
Tell us about the
university and its history
00:49:17.99\00:49:20.86
and how its touching
lives in Central Africa?
00:49:20.89\00:49:24.69
The Adventist
University of Central Africa
00:49:24.73\00:49:27.50
was the first
non-government university
00:49:27.53\00:49:30.20
to be established.
00:49:30.23\00:49:31.60
It was
established many years ago
00:49:31.63\00:49:32.97
in a place called Mudende,
00:49:33.00\00:49:34.67
but after the genocide, it
moved to the city of Kigali,
00:49:34.70\00:49:38.27
and that's where
we are located today.
00:49:38.31\00:49:40.71
We have a wonderful opportunity
to be a very special testimony
00:49:40.74\00:49:44.65
to the world.
00:49:44.68\00:49:46.01
We currently have 3,000 students
00:49:46.05\00:49:48.72
in business, in IT,
in education, theology.
00:49:48.75\00:49:54.76
But we are
adding a medical school.
00:49:54.79\00:49:57.53
The reason for
the medical school
00:49:57.56\00:49:58.96
is the president of
Rwanda came to the Adventist
00:49:58.99\00:50:02.06
and said so many are failing,
00:50:02.10\00:50:04.80
we are not having
enough doctors to serve Rwanda.
00:50:04.83\00:50:08.77
Would you consider
making a medical school here?
00:50:08.80\00:50:11.87
So we have a special request
00:50:11.91\00:50:13.31
from the
president of the country.
00:50:13.34\00:50:15.24
And this is sponsored by ECAD,
East Central Africa Division.
00:50:15.28\00:50:19.01
Yes.
00:50:19.05\00:50:20.38
And it will serve all of
the surrounding countries
00:50:20.42\00:50:24.32
and be a medical
school for Central Africa.
00:50:24.35\00:50:27.32
Okay.
00:50:27.36\00:50:28.69
And university,
you talked about,
00:50:28.72\00:50:31.26
is this a new building?
00:50:31.29\00:50:33.56
Has this been
recently established
00:50:33.60\00:50:35.16
or is this
coming out of the fact
00:50:35.20\00:50:36.73
that the genocide
caused people to move?
00:50:36.77\00:50:39.63
Give me some
clarification on that?
00:50:39.67\00:50:41.60
Yeah, the original campus
00:50:41.64\00:50:43.57
was located in northwest Rwanda.
00:50:43.61\00:50:46.17
Okay. It was isolated.
00:50:46.21\00:50:48.01
So there was a
desire to have a university
00:50:48.04\00:50:51.45
more accessible to the students,
00:50:51.48\00:50:53.21
the population in the city.
00:50:53.25\00:50:55.88
There is a huge
population in Kigali.
00:50:55.92\00:50:59.75
So we are very
close. We have two campuses.
00:50:59.79\00:51:02.32
One close to the downtown
which is a brand-new campus,
00:51:02.36\00:51:06.03
science and technology building.
00:51:06.06\00:51:07.40
If you go to our website,
you see a beautiful building.
00:51:07.43\00:51:11.23
And then we have
about three and a half miles
00:51:11.27\00:51:14.80
farther from the city
00:51:14.84\00:51:16.17
and that's actually very close
to the international airport,
00:51:16.20\00:51:18.64
we have a main campus.
00:51:18.67\00:51:20.01
That's where the
medical school is being built.
00:51:20.04\00:51:21.38
Okay.
00:51:21.41\00:51:22.74
And what are
some of the curriculum
00:51:22.78\00:51:24.11
that's a part of this?
00:51:24.15\00:51:25.48
I mean, do you have a theology
curriculum included there?
00:51:25.51\00:51:26.85
We do, we do.
00:51:26.88\00:51:28.22
We have
theology, we have the IT.
00:51:28.25\00:51:31.42
We have
business, we have education
00:51:31.45\00:51:33.76
and we have 3,000
students currently.
00:51:33.79\00:51:37.03
We are now build, in
the process of building
00:51:37.06\00:51:39.09
new dormitory for
women, new dormitory for men
00:51:39.13\00:51:42.43
that will give us
500 students more.
00:51:42.46\00:51:45.97
And a new cafeteria
00:51:46.00\00:51:47.34
for feeding up
to a thousand people
00:51:47.37\00:51:49.30
at a time and a
guesthouse, 21 unit guest home
00:51:49.34\00:51:53.74
to serve
visiting faculty to come.
00:51:53.78\00:51:56.78
We think the medical school,
00:51:56.81\00:51:58.41
we are
collaborating with Loma Linda.
00:51:58.45\00:52:01.05
It will be state of the
art and a model for Africa.
00:52:01.08\00:52:04.52
So it's maintaining
accreditation across the board
00:52:04.55\00:52:07.06
whether you go to school
there in Rwanda or in America.
00:52:07.09\00:52:10.29
How does that fit into the
qualification of education?
00:52:10.33\00:52:14.13
The education is
based on the European model.
00:52:14.16\00:52:16.83
So students out of high school
00:52:16.87\00:52:18.30
will go directly
into the medical school.
00:52:18.33\00:52:20.64
So it means there is a
big demand on sciences.
00:52:20.67\00:52:23.51
So we are trying to increase
the level of the sciences.
00:52:23.54\00:52:27.28
But it will serve
the surrounding countries
00:52:27.31\00:52:30.51
and allow students to come.
00:52:30.55\00:52:34.12
One interesting
facet as we start up,
00:52:34.15\00:52:37.52
we are not gonna be able to fill
00:52:37.55\00:52:38.89
the medical school immediately.
00:52:38.92\00:52:40.66
There is a golden
opportunity for US students
00:52:40.69\00:52:44.69
to come and experience
international education.
00:52:44.73\00:52:47.43
I was gonna ask that.
00:52:47.46\00:52:48.80
Because right now we
are serving in North America
00:52:48.83\00:52:52.90
less than 25% of
Adventist young people.
00:52:52.93\00:52:55.30
The cost of education
is just simply too high.
00:52:55.34\00:52:58.07
But going to Africa, you
can study the entire year,
00:52:58.11\00:53:01.91
the tuition is less
than a thousand dollars.
00:53:01.94\00:53:03.71
Okay.
00:53:03.75\00:53:05.08
Now, that's amazing
because we talk about
00:53:05.11\00:53:06.45
cost of tuition and
that's cost prohibitive
00:53:06.48\00:53:08.68
in America is
getting more and difficult.
00:53:08.72\00:53:10.39
So students going there
00:53:10.42\00:53:12.09
can also benefit
from the education
00:53:12.12\00:53:14.29
that will give them
qualification around the world.
00:53:14.32\00:53:16.83
How can somebody
find out more about it?
00:53:16.86\00:53:18.36
Is there a
website? Yes, there is.
00:53:18.39\00:53:19.96
There is a website.
00:53:20.00\00:53:21.33
If you...
00:53:21.36\00:53:22.70
It's actually quite simple.
00:53:22.73\00:53:24.07
If you go to Google maps. Okay.
00:53:24.10\00:53:25.83
You can actually just type in,
00:53:25.87\00:53:27.57
Adventist University of
Central Africa on Google Maps
00:53:27.60\00:53:32.77
and that will take
you right to our campus,
00:53:32.81\00:53:34.98
our main campus,
very close to the airport.
00:53:35.01\00:53:37.68
And if you look at the
website, you just Google
00:53:37.71\00:53:40.52
for Adventist
University of Central Africa,
00:53:40.55\00:53:42.95
there is a website,
there is lots of photos.
00:53:42.98\00:53:45.22
There is lots of
information. Wow.
00:53:45.25\00:53:47.22
Well, thank you so
much president Benson.
00:53:47.26\00:53:49.02
We appreciate it so much
00:53:49.06\00:53:50.39
and we know that
whatever the Lord does,
00:53:50.43\00:53:51.76
He does best
00:53:51.79\00:53:53.13
and your presence there
will be a blessing to others.
00:53:53.16\00:53:55.03
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
00:53:55.06\00:53:56.50
One of the great
pleasures that we at 3ABN have
00:53:56.53\00:53:58.83
is going to ASI
00:53:58.87\00:54:00.34
and highlighting
these wonderful ministries
00:54:00.37\00:54:02.84
that are doing such a great work
00:54:02.87\00:54:04.61
for the Lord around the world.
00:54:04.64\00:54:07.04
They deserve your prayers
and your financial support
00:54:07.08\00:54:10.08
and your love.
00:54:10.11\00:54:11.45
Well, our time is
fast slipped into eternity.
00:54:11.48\00:54:13.45
Allow me now in closing to
wish you both grace and peace
00:54:13.48\00:54:16.69
through our Lord
and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:54:16.72\00:54:18.39
We'll see you again
soon. Bye-bye and God bless.
00:54:18.42\00:54:21.02