I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray,
and allow me once again
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to thank you
for joining us today
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and for sharing a
little of your day with us
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to thank you as always
for your love, your prayers,
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your support of Three
Angels Broadcasting Network.
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I'm very, very excited
about our program today
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and my guest.
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There are times
when a person is given
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what would say a
bad break in life
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but through dedication,
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through a positive spirit,
through the love of Christ
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and through dedicating
your time and talents,
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the Lord can take
what is a challenge
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and turn it into a triumph.
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And that's what we're
going to talk about today.
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It is a personal testimony,
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but what a
personal testimony this is.
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This is
something really fabulous.
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And I will admit too,
I have on the other side
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of these cards not
a lot of information
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because we didn't sit down
and write out bullet points
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to talk about.
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We just began to talk.
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And then, my
guest unfolded for me
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a really remarkable
story that is still ongoing.
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This is just a
great, great story
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that I think
will warm your heart.
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So may I encourage
you to disabuse yourself
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or whatever you're doing
for the next 50 minutes or so
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because we got a lot
to talk to you about.
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And you're going to meet someone
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that I've come to like really
a lot in just a few minutes
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that we've talked
before this program began,
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and that is Carlot Dorve.
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Carlot, good to meet you.
Good to have you here, man.
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Thank you. Good to be here too.
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This, first of
all, is a neat guy.
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He's still a relatively young.
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I'm not going
to ask you how old.
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I'd say somewhere between
20 and 30, I would suspect.
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But a lot has
happened in those years.
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And God has taken you to
and through a lot of stuff,
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a lot of stuff.
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Amen. Yeah.
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You are a native,
I can say, of Haiti?
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Yes.
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And where in
Haiti were you born?
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I was in born in Petit-Goave
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which is the soft part of Haiti.
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But I grew up in Port-au-Prince.
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You left the island just
before that big earthquake
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that we...
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That dominated the news
so much so many years ago,
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but you got out just what?
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A week before, two weeks before?
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A week actually.
That was exactly one week.
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I came on
Tuesday in United States.
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Tuesday, January 5, 2012,
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and on Tuesday,
January 12, 2010,
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that was the earthquake.
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So basically,
exactly one week. Wow!
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Praise the Lord that you got out
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and you got out safe.
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In the chair next
to you is a trumpet.
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And on the floor, in
the front of that trumpet
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is a flugelhorn.
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Yes.
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So you play them both?
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Yes. Yes, yes.
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Now let's deal with
the elephant in the room
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just now because
we've got to work our way
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through this burden of chance.
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Carlot has one hour,
and you would not think that
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a person could be
so proficient on these
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two particular instruments
not having two arms to play.
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But he does play them,
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and he plays
them exceedingly well.
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And we're going
to talk about that.
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But I want to go back,
man, to your growing up days
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and kind of walk
through this whole experience.
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Talk to me about
your home growing up,
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brothers and sisters.
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Yes, I do have
brothers and sisters.
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I have five siblings.
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I have three
brothers and two sisters.
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Wow.
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But of course, growing up,
I have a stepfather as well.
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I had a stepfather.
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Because growing up, my mother
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and my father were not married.
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But my mum...
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My mother realized
that my father has a wife.
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So that led to this
connection between those two.
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And later on
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during this Christmas vacation,
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I keep asking my mother
to take me to my grandmother,
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to spend the vacation.
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Because I think, at
that point, probably kids,
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love to spend
vacation with their grandma
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because grandma spoils kids.
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But at this point,
I need to stop you...
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This was not an
Adventist home just yet?
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No, that was not
an Adventist home yet.
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Okay.
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And at that
point, when I get there,
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and then that's how also
I lost my arm because I fell
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and I broke my arm...
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Basically, it was my wrist.
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At your grandma's? At grandma.
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But my grandmother,
at that point thought
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if my mother knew that
my mother will be stressed,
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so she's trying to avoid
all the stress on my mother
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and decided to
hide it from my mother
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and then tried to see
if my arm could be healed
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without letting my mother know.
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And she took me
to a leaves doctor...
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Leaves doctor, who will...
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I mean, that thing
in United States will
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basically say
it's an herbal doctor.
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People who use
leaves and natural medicine.
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Now although some of
them may have some connection
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with may probably voodoo.
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And after 14 days,
when the leaves doctor
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or herbal doctor put some
stuff on my arm, after 14 days,
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my uncle realized that
my arm started to smell.
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And they decided right away,
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they have to take
me to the emergency.
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Now you were how
old about this time?
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I was four years and a half.
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Do you remember
any of this? Or this...
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You're recalling this
as it was told to you?
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I remember some
of the stuff because
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I can remember before I fell...
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My cousin was on a
horse, and basically,
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me and my cousin were
playing horsey basically.
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Playing horse
and then use a stick,
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that was probably a
corn stick, and then run,
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and then of course, we
could not catch my cousin.
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And there was a tree
that looked like a horse.
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And then basically we jump on it
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and try to play horse.
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And she said, "Let's go."
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And I said,
"What? Let's play more."
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And there was a plantain tree
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and I jumped on
the plantain tree
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and then she pulled my hand.
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And of course, that
planted tree is slippery.
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And I fell and I broke my wrist.
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So that's how
you broke your wrist.
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Yes. Okay. All right.
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But after 14 days,
things that they put in my arm
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probably was a circulation issue
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or maybe it's because
things that they put in my arm
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got infected.
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I don't really know.
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But what happened after 14 days,
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they realized that my arm
got gangrened, became darker,
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and then started to smell.
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So by the time, we
got to the hospital,
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the doctor said two things.
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Of course, they
called my mother,
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and the doctor said two things,
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"We have to amputate
the arm or he will die."
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So my mother at that point
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was in a very
difficult situation.
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Whether she should decide
for my life or for the society
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because the society sees
you in the different eyes.
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Then your
parents of course will.
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So the idea of saving
the arm was no longer issue.
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Arm had to go?
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Yes. Okay.
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So her choice is to maim you
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for the rest of your life
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which is going to cause
some rejection in the society
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because they don't
look at whole children
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like they look at
children who are challenged.
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There's going to be
some discrimination.
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That's going to last a lifetime.
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Or keep the arm and you die.
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Which is a rough choice.
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Of course, you
always choose life,
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and your mom chose...
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Life. She chose life.
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Okay, given the
understanding that you're going
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to be challenged for
the rest of your life.
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On the heels of that
decision, as you got older,
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was that
prediction did that come to
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as far as being
sort of looked down on
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because you
didn't have two arms.
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You weren't like everybody else,
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was that kind of rough?
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It was very rough.
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In fact, the first thing
that was pretty rough on me
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that was the
decision of my father
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because of the reaction because
my father told my mother,
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"I did not have a
child with one arm,
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therefore, he is not my child.
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This is your child."
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And at that point,
you can understand,
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my mother tried to
protect me and not letting me
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know those things.
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But she did some amazing things
that I understood later on.
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She never
considered me as someone
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with a physical disability.
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Never.
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In fact, when she
leaves the house every day,
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if she gives
chores in the house,
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she will ask me to do
anything as she will ask
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my older brother
to do certain things.
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For example,
she might have said,
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"Well, you do the
bed, or you wash dishes."
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She will make no difference.
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She will just ask
me to do something.
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But never question
how I am going to do it.
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She let me figure it out.
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And all those things
make me feel confident
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that I can
accomplish things on my own.
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On your own, yeah.
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So your mom didn't
coddle you in any sense
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or leave you lot
of time for self-pity.
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She had you and nurtured
you just like anybody else.
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In fact, if
neighbors try to complain,
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she basically goes after them.
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She goes after
them, and then say,
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"Well, this is my son.
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I have to deal with
him the way I want."
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Yes.
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So she had a lot of
intestinal fortitude.
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I mean, she is
really a strong woman.
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So your dad
sort of disowned you?
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Yes.
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And left the family? Mm-hm.
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So your mom remarried?
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Well, that's a good question too
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because my
stepfather, as I mentioned
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at the very beginning,
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my father never
get me with my mother.
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Right.
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However, they would
still have communication.
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And I was still young
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but my mum trying to
run away from my father
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because she found out
that my father has a wife.
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Has a wife, married, yes.
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And my mum was with my
father and then that happened
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because they were dating.
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It was a little bit
bad because my father
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basically used my mum
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and then my mum got
pregnant with that one.
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And so she felt
like she has to stay
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in that relationship
after being used by my father,
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and also a child came,
then I came on in the scene.
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And when she found out
that my father has a wife,
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she basically deserted
herself from my father.
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But since me
and my older brother
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were still
connected with my father,
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she will take us see my father
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even when I was
four, five, even three.
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But the thing I've never seen
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my father under the
same roof with my mother,
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not even one day.
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Yup. I see.
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So once he sort of
out of the picture,
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your stepfather comes in.
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And then there are
four children by him.
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Right. Yes.
Okay. So six in total.
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Yes. Six in total.
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How was your
relationship with your stepdad?
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It wasn't...
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At first, it was good,
at first, but later on,
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it was not that
good because of the way
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he started acting with my mom.
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And in fact, he
started to cheat on my mom
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and lead my mom
to have some issues
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with some other women.
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And my mum, even
actually when she was pregnant,
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has even got to jail
because she was fighting
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with another
woman that my father
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had some involvement with.
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And that was not
really a good picture
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because there was a lot
of tension at that point.
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And it was not that good for
us but I usually stayed calm,
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never get
involve in those things,
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but even later on, my
older brother got involved
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because my stepfather would try
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to hit my mom one time.
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And my older brother stepped in.
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And so your stepfather is away.
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How did, Carlot,
how did Adventism
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come into the picture?
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In my life,
especially that was...
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When I was around
six or seven years old
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when my stepfather got
married with my mother,
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and we started going to
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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but before that, my
mom will make us memorize
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Bible verses.
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She was a single mom
because she was the one
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who tried to feed
us every day therefore,
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she has to go on
the street and sell
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so that she can take care of us.
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But we rarely go
to church on Sunday.
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So with my stepfather came in,
we go to church every Sabbath.
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And we started
to know a little bit
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about devotion in the morning.
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But because of
difficulties of life,
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I had to go live
with my aunt. Oh, boy.
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And I started
living with my aunt,
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I got confused at that point.
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I was around 13.
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And because I remember one
day, I went to a Bible study
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because I love God, I
wanted to do what is right.
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And that was
Free Methodist Church.
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And I remember in the
Bible study, they say,
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"Well, you don't
have to keep the law
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because Moses broke them."
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That was a very
hard situation for me.
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And I was confused, and
I started praying about it.
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And later on, the same month,
I believe and I felt convinced
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to leave my aunt
and then go downtown.
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And there was like
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an Evangelist Seventh-day
Adventist Church, I heard it.
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And I came in,
and I felt so moved.
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I said, "Man,
this is my church."
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From that point,
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I tried to not miss
any of those nights.
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Now my aunt was
not too happy with it.
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Yes.
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And after a few
days, I told my aunt,
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"I'm going to get baptized."
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My aunt said, "Which church?"
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I said,
"Seventh-day Adventist Church."
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She says, "That's
not going to happen."
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And I said, "Well,
I understand, Aunt,
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I want to get baptized."
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So now before I get
baptized, it was very difficult
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because the Pastor
refused me because I was 13.
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Actually, at that
point, later on, actually...
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It is that after,
later on, that was at 16.
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Okay. I should
make sure I explain.
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I was 16 at that
time, and I told my aunt
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that I'm going to get baptized.
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Now for most
guys, 16 is old enough.
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I was baptized
younger than 16. Yes.
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I've been baptized, I
think, to a low of 9 or 10.
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But they were
pretty selfish children
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and knew what they were
getting into for the most part.
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But 16, that's well I suppose.
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When I say 16 and I want
to get baptized, my aunt said,
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"That's not going to happen."
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And the Pastor and
the people in the church
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wanted to visit with my parents
before they even choose me.
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And they call
everybody, and then
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I remember they didn't call me.
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I went back and I talked
to the Pastor, I said, "Well,
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I don't hear my
name, and I sign up."
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And they said, "Well, we have
to talk to your parents first."
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I said, "Well, you know
what, let me tell you exactly
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what it is.
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I talked to my aunt about
it because I'm with my aunt.
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My mom is a
Seventh-day Adventist,
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but my aunt said no.
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But please don't reject me
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because I don't
want to leave here
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without getting baptized."
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And the Pastors
think about it, say, "Well,
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we cannot refuse him."
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All right. "So we
have to let him in."
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And after he baptized, he said,
"I'm going to pray for you."
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And from that point,
when I got back home,
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and I told my aunt,
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"I have to let you
know that I got baptized."
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And now she started a new
way to persecute me in a way.
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She used to sell
stuff in the street,
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and she used to send
me buy stuff for her.
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And on the Sabbath
morning, she told me,
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"I want you to deliver
this merchandise for me
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at that place."
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And I said, "I am sorry.
I will not be able to do it.
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And, you know,
today is my church
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and it's a Sabbath.
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I will not be able to
do it." She said, "What?
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If you don't do it
today, you leave the house."
00:17:42.72\00:17:44.23
I said, "Well, you don't
have to even repeat it again.
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I'm going to leave today.
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You will not see
me after the church."
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Wow. So I left.
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Wow. Wow.
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I left. I went to my mum.
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And my mum was happy as well.
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"You know, you're
never too much for me."
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Wow.
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All right, I want
to move from that point
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to when you began
to pick up an interest
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in musical instruments.
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One would not think,
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particularly this
challenging an instrument
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that would be something
that you'd gravitate to.
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When did that
interest in music start?
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That interest started
when I was around seven.
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I remember I was
walking in the street,
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that was a Flag
Day, probably May 18th
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because that's when we
have the Flag Day in Haiti.
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And in the street,
I saw a lot of kids,
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even young adults,
playing in the band.
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It's like a
marching band. And I...
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The first thing that
came to mind I said, "Man,
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I wish I could
play like those people."
00:18:41.55\00:18:45.05
But the second
thought that came was,
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"It's impossible because
your mom will not be able
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to afford it."
00:18:49.79\00:18:51.56
So I keep it and I never
said anything to my mother.
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But I was in the
school, they call St. Vincent's.
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It's a school for people
with children with disability.
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But also in that school
00:19:03.47\00:19:07.74
when you get to
a certain grades,
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they start you with music.
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And when I get to that
grade, I was very excited.
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And I said, "Man,
that's going to be it.
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This is it." And very excited.
00:19:15.22\00:19:18.22
So the idea that
"I cannot do this"
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was never entered your mind?
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I eliminated that I
could not do anything.
00:19:22.59\00:19:24.73
In fact, when someone tells
me that I cannot do something
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I start to question why.
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They say that I
cannot do certain things...
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I mean, I believe also
it's because of the way
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my mum raised me.
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Yes.
00:19:36.34\00:19:37.81
So to finish, at that
point, when I get to the class
00:19:37.84\00:19:42.91
and they took everybody and then
00:19:42.94\00:19:44.78
I was left in the class.
00:19:44.81\00:19:46.65
And I start to ask the teacher,
I said, "So why I'm not in?"
00:19:46.72\00:19:50.49
She said, "Oh,
no. You have one arm.
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You cannot play."
00:19:51.89\00:19:53.86
And I keep asking, and
each time they tell that
00:19:53.89\00:19:56.96
I could not, that
lead to me question why
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and then find a way
to prove them wrong.
00:20:01.83\00:20:04.77
So I asked them
for over three years,
00:20:04.80\00:20:08.14
keep asking them.
00:20:08.17\00:20:09.50
And then one day
because of my persistence,
00:20:09.54\00:20:11.84
and then
someone heard me asking,
00:20:11.87\00:20:13.78
that was another teacher,
he said, "Man, you know,
00:20:13.84\00:20:15.64
I think he can play the trumpet.
00:20:15.68\00:20:17.21
Let him try."
00:20:17.25\00:20:19.35
But they give me a trumpet.
00:20:19.38\00:20:20.72
Of course, that
trumpet was not a good one
00:20:20.78\00:20:22.28
because it was the
one that no one used.
00:20:22.32\00:20:25.35
But in my brain, I
said, "Well, this is it.
00:20:25.39\00:20:28.66
You cannot leave
that opportunity go.
00:20:28.69\00:20:31.43
You have to do your best to
make sure that you make it."
00:20:31.46\00:20:36.40
So when they
gave me the trumpet,
00:20:36.43\00:20:37.77
I showed them I could play.
00:20:37.80\00:20:39.13
I said, "Well, I'm
going to use my thumb,
00:20:39.17\00:20:40.50
and my baby finger to play it,
00:20:40.57\00:20:42.54
and then use my middle fingers."
00:20:42.57\00:20:44.57
But it was still
a challenge. Yes.
00:20:44.61\00:20:46.44
Because that fourth
finger and that fifth,
00:20:46.47\00:20:49.14
they kind of connected to each.
00:20:49.18\00:20:51.25
When you move one, the
other one tend to move.
00:20:51.28\00:20:53.18
They want to.
00:20:53.21\00:20:54.55
So what I did, I
basically tried to stretch
00:20:54.58\00:20:57.65
these two everyday to make
sure I have like a big wrench
00:20:57.69\00:21:02.29
to make them
independent a little bit.
00:21:02.32\00:21:04.43
So when I get to that
point, they let me try.
00:21:04.46\00:21:07.23
But I did have to make
a commitment to myself.
00:21:07.30\00:21:09.80
I said, "Well, now
this is a first step.
00:21:09.83\00:21:12.50
I better practice
more than the other kids."
00:21:12.53\00:21:15.44
Sometimes I will
hide myself to practice.
00:21:15.47\00:21:18.21
That's kind of funny
because when you think about it,
00:21:18.24\00:21:21.31
I would hide myself.
00:21:21.34\00:21:23.01
I basically, watch every
kid, if they practice one hour,
00:21:23.04\00:21:25.58
I will try to practice two.
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Ah, I see.
00:21:27.02\00:21:28.35
Even if that
required me to miss a meal,
00:21:28.38\00:21:31.02
I will try to practice two.
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And I made a lot of
progress very quick to the point
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they even had me to
help my fellow classmates.
00:21:36.93\00:21:41.86
I see.
00:21:41.90\00:21:43.70
So you caught up
pretty fast. Oh, yeah.
00:21:43.73\00:21:47.20
And of the two instruments,
did you have a favorite?
00:21:47.27\00:21:49.60
The flugelhorn or the trumpet?
00:21:49.64\00:21:51.37
Oh, the flugelhorn was
not in the picture at all.
00:21:51.41\00:21:53.21
Okay, so just
trumpet at that point.
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It was trumpet.
00:21:54.98\00:21:57.98
But I got the flugelhorn,
00:21:58.01\00:21:59.35
actually just got
flugelhorn recently.
00:21:59.38\00:22:02.68
And because when
I got Penn State,
00:22:02.72\00:22:04.09
there are certain
things that you have to play,
00:22:04.12\00:22:05.45
as a graduate assistant,
you have to do certain things,
00:22:05.49\00:22:07.89
so I got in the picture.
00:22:07.92\00:22:09.39
The trumpet was the
instrument that I started.
00:22:09.42\00:22:12.56
Now I've got to ask this because
00:22:12.59\00:22:14.56
given the
earthquake which was 2010,
00:22:14.56\00:22:20.00
were you making plans
to come to the States?
00:22:20.04\00:22:22.10
Did you realize that you
needed some stateside training
00:22:22.14\00:22:24.67
to improve your
craft, to improve
00:22:24.71\00:22:26.24
what you have selected to do?
00:22:26.27\00:22:27.61
There I believe
this is a miracle.
00:22:27.64\00:22:28.98
I'm going to explain why.
00:22:29.01\00:22:32.41
At that point, January
2010, there was a program,
00:22:32.45\00:22:34.95
I knew about the program.
00:22:34.98\00:22:36.38
And I was in the school.
00:22:36.42\00:22:38.29
They did not want
me to leave really.
00:22:38.32\00:22:40.92
But I was supposed to be
in Scotland for the festival.
00:22:40.96\00:22:45.46
So my preparation...
00:22:45.49\00:22:46.96
I was supposed to
prepare to go to that festival
00:22:47.00\00:22:49.76
for the school that I was at.
00:22:49.80\00:22:52.20
But in
November, out of the blue,
00:22:52.23\00:22:55.17
and I received that
call that said, "Well,
00:22:55.20\00:22:57.34
we're chosen to
be in United States
00:22:57.37\00:23:00.91
in the cultural exchange."
00:23:00.98\00:23:02.91
I said, "Well, I'm going."
00:23:02.94\00:23:05.51
So when I got here,
the earthquake happened.
00:23:05.55\00:23:09.92
And believe me or not, I
do believe if I was in Haiti,
00:23:09.95\00:23:12.42
there was 90% chance,
00:23:12.45\00:23:13.86
if it was not by
God's grace, I'll die.
00:23:13.89\00:23:16.49
Because the building that
I know for sure at that time
00:23:16.52\00:23:19.36
that I will be is
completely destroyed.
00:23:19.39\00:23:22.00
And a lot of people were killed,
00:23:22.03\00:23:23.37
people that I know died.
00:23:23.43\00:23:26.70
I need to ask you, were
you in proficient in trumpet
00:23:26.74\00:23:30.31
before you came to the
States or did you sort of
00:23:30.37\00:23:32.77
pick up your craft and
improved your craft here?
00:23:32.81\00:23:35.68
Now when I was back
home, I used to practice a lot.
00:23:35.71\00:23:38.75
The reason why I wanted to...
00:23:38.78\00:23:41.05
Because I know it
was very difficult
00:23:41.08\00:23:42.58
people will look at the way
you are, physical disability,
00:23:42.62\00:23:45.25
but I wanted to
play in the level
00:23:45.29\00:23:47.66
that people will
not see me as if someone
00:23:47.69\00:23:50.49
with a physical disability
but for what I can do.
00:23:50.53\00:23:53.16
Therefore, that
requirement to practice more.
00:23:53.19\00:23:55.73
So this is a funny
story because I remember
00:23:55.76\00:24:01.00
some people used to compare
at the end of the trumpet play
00:24:01.04\00:24:03.94
in that school.
00:24:04.01\00:24:06.17
And I felt so bad
because I said, "Man,
00:24:06.21\00:24:07.94
if they start
comparing me with someone else,
00:24:07.98\00:24:09.71
that's mean if
there's an opportunity
00:24:09.74\00:24:11.81
that person will have it,"
00:24:11.85\00:24:13.18
because one thing
I have to remember,
00:24:13.21\00:24:14.55
I was very poor.
00:24:14.58\00:24:16.22
I was very, very poor.
00:24:16.25\00:24:18.22
There's no way I can
make it in the State.
00:24:18.25\00:24:20.96
And they won't...
00:24:20.99\00:24:22.32
If I apply for the
visa, they will just deny me.
00:24:22.36\00:24:24.26
So where did you get
your initial instruments from?
00:24:24.33\00:24:27.40
Well, this is a good question.
00:24:27.50\00:24:29.13
My initial
instruments, what I did...
00:24:29.16\00:24:31.33
There's this
professor, he was an American.
00:24:31.37\00:24:34.47
And I saved my pocket
money, and then pay him
00:24:34.50\00:24:39.57
like every month,
give him little by little,
00:24:39.61\00:24:42.38
little by little until
I get my first instrument.
00:24:42.41\00:24:45.38
And after a time, I
get my own instruments.
00:24:45.41\00:24:48.52
And I was able to own my own.
00:24:48.55\00:24:53.72
I did those things in two ways.
00:24:53.76\00:24:56.56
I used my pocket money
to pay for my instrument.
00:24:56.59\00:24:58.83
I also used my pocket instrument
00:24:58.86\00:25:01.06
to just look our
in the street to find
00:25:01.10\00:25:03.10
CDs and DVDs to learn and
to watch other people play.
00:25:03.13\00:25:09.87
Excellent. So you
came to the States.
00:25:09.90\00:25:13.31
Did you have
relatives here in the States?
00:25:13.38\00:25:14.88
Or this is sort of a leap
in the dark or leap of faith?
00:25:14.91\00:25:16.64
I didn't have anyone here.
00:25:16.68\00:25:18.15
Actually, when I came
here, I came here in the winter.
00:25:18.18\00:25:20.82
Ooh! In Michigan
00:25:20.85\00:25:24.22
And in Michigan, double ooh.
00:25:24.29\00:25:27.06
And I didn't have a coat.
00:25:27.09\00:25:28.42
When I got here, it
was January 5, 2010,
00:25:28.46\00:25:30.93
it was very cold
without the coat.
00:25:30.96\00:25:32.33
Bless your heart.
00:25:32.36\00:25:33.70
And having no
one, but, you know,
00:25:33.73\00:25:37.43
I had to believe
God has a plan for me
00:25:37.47\00:25:38.83
at that point too
because when I got here,
00:25:38.87\00:25:40.74
and I know the
earthquake happened,
00:25:40.80\00:25:43.51
it was very hard for me to bear.
00:25:43.57\00:25:46.47
But yeah, God was so faithful
to me, took me step by step.
00:25:46.51\00:25:52.35
Did you have an
acceptance to school?
00:25:52.38\00:25:54.18
Or you, 'cause I'm trying
to... To come from Haiti...
00:25:54.22\00:25:57.49
Uh-huh.
00:25:57.55\00:25:58.89
With not a lot of
resources. Uh-huh.
00:25:58.92\00:26:00.32
On the way to Michigan,
that takes major faith,
00:26:00.36\00:26:02.49
you know, even if you
got some place to land
00:26:02.52\00:26:04.89
when you leap, still
that's a major cultural-shift,
00:26:04.93\00:26:11.10
language-shift,
weather-shift, you know,
00:26:11.13\00:26:16.44
there's no
linkages that would say
00:26:16.47\00:26:19.01
a move from Haiti to Michigan
would be a comfortable thing.
00:26:19.04\00:26:22.64
And that you were
willing to do that.
00:26:22.68\00:26:24.38
Well, I wanted to do it because
00:26:24.41\00:26:26.11
it was a
cultural exchange program
00:26:26.15\00:26:27.85
that I had to participate
in for the four months.
00:26:27.88\00:26:31.02
So I came in January,
00:26:31.05\00:26:32.39
I was supposed
to leave in May 4th,
00:26:32.42\00:26:33.86
I think, it was.
00:26:33.89\00:26:37.33
But because of the
earthquake, things changed.
00:26:37.36\00:26:41.50
Amen.
00:26:41.53\00:26:42.86
Because the government
allowed me to stay longer,
00:26:42.90\00:26:45.10
and then gave me an
employment authorization card.
00:26:45.13\00:26:47.20
Although, at that point... Yeah.
00:26:47.24\00:26:50.41
I don't even have
any of the benefits
00:26:50.47\00:26:53.27
as people will
have because, you know,
00:26:53.34\00:26:54.68
consider someone has nothing...
00:26:54.71\00:26:56.91
How are you
going to make it still.
00:26:56.95\00:26:58.28
Right.
00:26:58.31\00:26:59.78
Now are you
done with high school
00:26:59.81\00:27:01.22
or you still in high school?
00:27:01.25\00:27:02.58
I was done with high
school at that point.
00:27:02.62\00:27:04.32
Okay. So you're
looking to get into college?
00:27:04.35\00:27:06.42
Yes. Yeah.
00:27:06.45\00:27:07.89
And that's also,
at that point, I...
00:27:07.92\00:27:12.93
Someone heard me
play in the church.
00:27:12.96\00:27:14.73
And this person was an alumni
from Michigan State University.
00:27:14.73\00:27:18.70
And that lady said,
"You are very talented,
00:27:18.73\00:27:21.80
why don't you go
audition at Michigan State?"
00:27:21.84\00:27:24.57
In my brain, I said,
"Well, how could that be?
00:27:24.61\00:27:26.44
I mean, I just got here.
I don't even have anything.
00:27:26.47\00:27:29.21
How am I going to make it?"
00:27:29.24\00:27:30.58
In the following week,
she called me, she said,
00:27:30.65\00:27:33.45
"I talked to the
trumpet professor
00:27:33.52\00:27:35.12
and told him about you.
00:27:35.15\00:27:36.89
He is very
interested to hear you play."
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.65
Ooh. Wow!
00:27:38.69\00:27:40.59
So they
scheduled an appointment,
00:27:40.66\00:27:42.09
I go and play for him.
00:27:42.12\00:27:43.96
And after I play
for him, and I remember
00:27:44.03\00:27:45.73
I play concerto like
Arutiunian trumpet concerto.
00:27:45.76\00:27:50.23
And he said, "You
did a pretty good job,
00:27:50.27\00:27:53.80
but I don't know your goal.
00:27:53.84\00:27:55.90
If you're interested,
I think if you audition,
00:27:55.94\00:28:00.41
the faculty will definitely
give you a full scholarship."
00:28:00.44\00:28:02.91
Wow.
00:28:02.94\00:28:04.28
And I said, "Why not?"
00:28:04.31\00:28:05.75
You get off the plane
from Haiti with no prospects,
00:28:05.78\00:28:10.55
nothing sort of in your pocket,
00:28:10.62\00:28:12.49
and the Lord begins
to look out for you.
00:28:12.52\00:28:14.46
Amen.
00:28:14.49\00:28:15.82
So obviously, you
got into Michigan State?
00:28:15.86\00:28:17.76
Yes.
00:28:17.79\00:28:19.13
Yeah, and you
majored in and took?
00:28:19.16\00:28:20.96
In music performance.
Music performance, okay.
00:28:20.96\00:28:24.77
You finished the program?
00:28:24.80\00:28:26.13
Yes, I did. Uh-huh.
00:28:26.17\00:28:27.97
While you were there,
while you were in school,
00:28:28.00\00:28:30.21
a number of things happened
that allowed you to witness,
00:28:30.24\00:28:32.87
and I don't want the
time to get away from us
00:28:32.91\00:28:34.28
before we tap on
some of that stuff.
00:28:34.31\00:28:36.68
Because all along the
line, it occurs to me,
00:28:36.75\00:28:39.21
in hearing your story
that God was allowing you...
00:28:39.25\00:28:42.28
He was blessing you. Amen.
00:28:42.32\00:28:43.69
But He's also
giving you opportunities
00:28:43.72\00:28:45.42
to witness and to
spread your faith.
00:28:45.45\00:28:47.19
Talk to me about
some of that stuff.
00:28:47.26\00:28:49.06
When I get to,
accepted to Michigan State,
00:28:49.09\00:28:51.49
for me, it was a miracle.
00:28:51.53\00:28:52.96
And as that to
think about those things,
00:28:52.99\00:28:55.80
and I said, "Why me?"
00:28:55.83\00:28:58.20
And in my eyes, I
started seeing other students
00:28:58.23\00:29:01.94
who started quitting school
because they cannot afford it
00:29:01.97\00:29:04.64
in the music program.
00:29:04.67\00:29:06.57
And I said, "Well, why me?"
00:29:06.61\00:29:08.94
God probably has a
reason why he put me there,
00:29:08.98\00:29:11.18
and he blessed me
so much in that school,
00:29:11.21\00:29:13.98
and I need to
find out what it is.
00:29:14.05\00:29:16.82
And I remember asking Him
one night in prayer, I said,
00:29:16.85\00:29:19.62
I asked God to show me
what he was meant to do.
00:29:19.65\00:29:23.86
And then later on, I
started to have that burden,
00:29:23.89\00:29:27.30
share your faith.
00:29:27.36\00:29:28.66
Share your faith, yeah.
00:29:28.70\00:29:30.03
And I said, "Well,
that's a pretty good thing,
00:29:30.07\00:29:31.40
but, you know, I
may need more training."
00:29:31.43\00:29:34.04
And I decided to go
to Emmanuel Institute
00:29:34.07\00:29:38.74
for Evangelism.
00:29:38.77\00:29:40.71
And when the church
heard that I wanted to do that,
00:29:40.78\00:29:43.45
the church, my
church sponsored me to go.
00:29:43.48\00:29:46.25
And I said, "Well, I'm going
to take advantage of this."
00:29:46.28\00:29:48.62
I went there, I
was like very excited
00:29:48.65\00:29:51.95
with the Pastor Mark or the way
he was teaching those things.
00:29:51.99\00:29:55.69
And then he
basically injected passion,
00:29:55.72\00:29:59.69
it's that happy to have
passion to share your faith.
00:29:59.73\00:30:02.06
Yes.
00:30:02.10\00:30:03.43
So when I got
back, he said, "Well,
00:30:03.47\00:30:06.80
I need to find any occasion
that I can find to witness."
00:30:06.84\00:30:10.57
So now I started thinking,
"I have a full meal plan,
00:30:10.61\00:30:15.41
so I can go to
the cafe any time."
00:30:15.44\00:30:17.85
So I would go to the
cafeteria, and then sit,
00:30:17.88\00:30:20.92
and then listen
to the conversation
00:30:20.95\00:30:22.28
of the other students.
00:30:22.32\00:30:23.65
And then sometimes,
join the conversation
00:30:23.69\00:30:25.22
and then bring
God into conversation.
00:30:25.25\00:30:29.69
And sometimes,
there are some people
00:30:29.72\00:30:31.36
who are
atheists, I bring prophecy.
00:30:31.39\00:30:34.73
And later on...
00:30:34.73\00:30:36.36
There is one guy who remember
I had a conversation, I said,
00:30:36.40\00:30:39.90
"Man, have you
ever asked yourself
00:30:39.97\00:30:41.70
why people believe the Bible?
00:30:41.74\00:30:43.64
And why the Bible
is the Word of God?"
00:30:43.67\00:30:46.81
And I started
sharing a little bit
00:30:46.84\00:30:49.18
and then this guy
said, "Man, that's amazing."
00:30:49.21\00:30:51.08
I said, "Well, you know
what, we can get together
00:30:51.11\00:30:53.95
and then study more about this,
I mean, I can share with you."
00:30:53.98\00:30:56.45
And we...
00:30:56.48\00:30:57.82
I started a group
Bible study at that point.
00:30:57.85\00:30:59.82
And that's also
where I have some friends
00:30:59.85\00:31:02.86
who became an Adventists,
and among that group,
00:31:02.89\00:31:05.59
one girl who used
to be a jazz guitar.
00:31:05.63\00:31:11.60
And she used to play
a lot of rock, metal,
00:31:11.63\00:31:14.30
heavy metal stuff.
00:31:14.34\00:31:15.67
Yeah.
00:31:15.70\00:31:17.07
And we started the
Bible study, and later on,
00:31:17.11\00:31:19.97
she got baptized
and became an Adventist.
00:31:20.04\00:31:21.38
Praise the Lord.
00:31:21.41\00:31:22.74
Actually, she just got married
with one of our new pastors
00:31:22.78\00:31:24.95
in Michigan.
00:31:24.98\00:31:26.51
And at the same time, I
said, "Man, Lord is blessing me.
00:31:26.55\00:31:32.49
Maybe there's another
reason that I should probably
00:31:32.52\00:31:34.22
keep sharing more."
00:31:34.26\00:31:35.59
Now I want to recount
because you came to school,
00:31:35.62\00:31:37.73
you came to States with nothing,
00:31:37.76\00:31:39.26
somebody picks up your...
00:31:39.29\00:31:41.93
Is it tuition?
Is it a full ride?
00:31:41.96\00:31:45.03
Someone's paying for everything?
00:31:45.07\00:31:48.67
Someone's paying
for my room and board.
00:31:48.70\00:31:50.04
Okay.
00:31:50.07\00:31:51.41
And when I auditioned
00:31:51.44\00:31:52.97
I have a full ride
scholarship by the school.
00:31:53.01\00:31:55.18
Oh, okay.
00:31:55.21\00:31:56.54
The school decided
to give me a full ride.
00:31:56.58\00:31:58.18
In fact, it's interesting
00:31:58.21\00:32:00.95
because I don't want
to talk too much about...
00:32:00.98\00:32:03.22
too much detail, but
these particular things
00:32:03.25\00:32:06.15
for me was amazing
how God worked things out.
00:32:06.19\00:32:09.16
The university has done things
for me they have never done
00:32:09.19\00:32:12.06
for any student
in the entire history
00:32:12.09\00:32:14.56
of the university.
00:32:14.60\00:32:16.06
Allowed me to...
00:32:16.10\00:32:17.43
Without English, you know,
00:32:17.47\00:32:18.80
English is not
my first language.
00:32:18.83\00:32:20.20
I started without
even passing a TOEFL test.
00:32:20.24\00:32:23.97
And the school, the
music, the college department
00:32:24.01\00:32:26.74
paid a semester
of English for me
00:32:26.78\00:32:30.15
to have me at the university.
00:32:30.21\00:32:31.58
Wow!
00:32:31.61\00:32:32.95
That is a blessing of
the Lord. That's a blessing.
00:32:32.98\00:32:34.45
It is a major
blessing of the Lord.
00:32:34.48\00:32:35.85
Amen.
00:32:35.88\00:32:37.25
So all your
potential financial worries
00:32:37.29\00:32:39.55
are pretty much being
solved one by one by one?
00:32:39.59\00:32:41.99
By one. Tuition,
room and board...
00:32:42.02\00:32:44.89
Room and board was
by Wynton Marsalis.
00:32:44.93\00:32:47.03
That was by Wynton Marsalis.
00:32:47.10\00:32:48.40
Now tell me about the
Wynton Marsalis thing.
00:32:48.43\00:32:49.76
That's a very famous name.
00:32:49.80\00:32:51.83
Anybody who knows jazz, anybody
who knows trumpet playing,
00:32:51.87\00:32:54.37
knows Wynton Marsalis.
00:32:54.40\00:32:55.74
And Wynton
Marsalis is paying now
00:32:55.77\00:32:57.57
for your education.
00:32:57.61\00:32:58.94
Yes. Walk us through that.
00:32:58.97\00:33:01.84
I had a few videos online,
and one of the trumpet player
00:33:01.88\00:33:07.78
who was a good
friend of Wynton Marsalis,
00:33:07.82\00:33:10.12
he heard that I
was coming to New York,
00:33:10.19\00:33:11.52
he said, "Well,
connect Carlot with me."
00:33:11.55\00:33:14.19
And I called him,
the next day he said,
00:33:14.26\00:33:16.32
"Man, you know, I'm going to see
00:33:16.36\00:33:17.69
Wynton Marsalis tomorrow,
would you like to join me?"
00:33:17.73\00:33:20.10
I said, "Sure."
00:33:20.13\00:33:21.76
And when I see Wynton Marsalis,
and Wynton Marsalis told him,
00:33:21.80\00:33:24.97
"See, I just got new
trumpet, that new trumpet.
00:33:25.00\00:33:27.30
Would you like to try to it?"
00:33:27.34\00:33:28.67
And he gave it to my
friend, my friend said, "No.
00:33:28.70\00:33:30.37
Carlot, you try it."
00:33:30.41\00:33:32.67
And I took his
trumpet, and I was trying it,
00:33:32.71\00:33:34.98
and Wynton Marsalis turned,
00:33:35.01\00:33:36.34
he said, "Man, I like this guy."
00:33:36.38\00:33:40.22
And then at that point,
we connected a little bit.
00:33:40.28\00:33:43.65
He even promised me, he
said, he promised to teach me,
00:33:43.69\00:33:47.62
but connect with
him through email,
00:33:47.66\00:33:49.89
he is a very busy man.
00:33:49.92\00:33:51.53
That could not work.
00:33:51.56\00:33:53.29
But at that point too,
since I was at his rehearsal,
00:33:53.36\00:33:56.10
I met a lot of other musicians.
00:33:56.13\00:33:57.50
Yes, yes, yes.
00:33:57.53\00:33:58.87
And the following year...
00:33:58.90\00:34:00.30
The same year, I was
playing for the ITG which is
00:34:00.34\00:34:02.87
International
Trumpet Guild Conference.
00:34:02.90\00:34:05.94
And I met I see
one of his friends,
00:34:05.97\00:34:09.34
and then this friend,
later on, texts me, said,
00:34:09.38\00:34:11.55
"Man, we're going
to be in Michigan.
00:34:11.58\00:34:13.01
Make sure that
you come backstage,
00:34:13.05\00:34:16.18
and then see us."
00:34:16.22\00:34:17.85
And when I came,
and I didn't know why,
00:34:17.89\00:34:20.49
and at that
point, I needed a support
00:34:20.56\00:34:22.96
for room and board.
00:34:22.99\00:34:24.33
Okay. Yeah.
00:34:24.36\00:34:25.86
And before that I
pray, I say, "Lord,
00:34:25.89\00:34:27.60
I'm not going to worry about it.
00:34:27.66\00:34:28.96
I let it in your hand."
00:34:29.00\00:34:31.13
And when I got to backstage,
and then Wynton Marsalis saw me
00:34:31.17\00:34:34.44
and said, "Man, I remember
you, I saw you last year.
00:34:34.47\00:34:36.97
Make sure you play
for me after the concert."
00:34:37.01\00:34:38.74
Wow!
00:34:38.77\00:34:40.14
And he had me
have lunch with him.
00:34:40.18\00:34:42.31
And after the
concert, he asked me to wait.
00:34:42.34\00:34:44.91
And after I wait for
him and played for him,
00:34:44.95\00:34:48.15
he asked me a
specific question, he said,
00:34:48.18\00:34:52.12
"If I would like to help
you, how can I help you?"
00:34:52.15\00:34:55.66
And I start thinking, I
said, "Well, what should I ask."
00:34:55.69\00:34:58.43
And I said,
"Well, maybe with my...
00:34:58.46\00:35:01.90
Have lesson with
you because I think
00:35:01.93\00:35:03.26
this is very important,
you are a very famous guy.
00:35:03.30\00:35:04.93
You're a very
good in the trumpet."
00:35:04.97\00:35:07.24
And I said, "Well, but
again, you're in Manhattan,
00:35:07.27\00:35:09.44
and I'm in Michigan."
00:35:09.47\00:35:11.34
He said, "Yeah, that's
true. Is there anything else?"
00:35:11.37\00:35:15.78
And then that
clicks in my brain, I said,
00:35:15.81\00:35:17.75
"Maybe with my room and board."
00:35:17.78\00:35:19.61
He said "Oh, sure.
00:35:19.65\00:35:21.35
How much is it?" And
I said, "I'm not sure.
00:35:21.38\00:35:23.18
I think it's probably
around $10,000-13,000 a year."
00:35:23.22\00:35:26.35
He said, "Give me your address,
I'll send you the check."
00:35:26.39\00:35:29.82
And he was so serious about it,
00:35:29.86\00:35:31.19
then I tried to
write my address,
00:35:31.23\00:35:32.56
he said, "You
know, I'm in a tour.
00:35:32.59\00:35:33.93
Take my cell phone number.
00:35:34.00\00:35:35.30
If you don't hear from me
in four days, give me a call."
00:35:35.33\00:35:37.57
All right, so he
was that impressed
00:35:37.60\00:35:39.47
after basically two
meetings and hearing you play...
00:35:39.50\00:35:41.44
Yes. That he
wanted to sponsor you.
00:35:41.47\00:35:43.47
Yeah, he wanted to
sponsor me, and he made sure
00:35:43.51\00:35:45.67
he paid for that four years.
00:35:45.71\00:35:47.84
In fact, we always stay in touch
00:35:47.88\00:35:49.21
from time to time.
00:35:49.24\00:35:50.71
When I text him, he always say,
"Make sure you keep me updated
00:35:50.75\00:35:53.58
from time to time."
00:35:53.62\00:35:55.38
And actually,
recently I texted him
00:35:55.42\00:35:57.79
that was last week.
00:35:57.82\00:35:59.15
So he paid for
your full undergrad?
00:35:59.19\00:36:01.12
Undergrad, room and board.
00:36:01.16\00:36:02.49
And then since I
haven't a citizenship,
00:36:02.52\00:36:04.26
I feel like I need
to give him a break
00:36:04.29\00:36:06.83
although he always wants
to know what's going with me.
00:36:06.86\00:36:09.70
And I was talking to
him because his mother
00:36:09.73\00:36:11.87
just passed away.
00:36:11.90\00:36:13.54
And I said,
00:36:13.57\00:36:16.40
"Well, I think I'm going to
come to visit you sometime."
00:36:16.44\00:36:19.31
He said, "Well,
just come whenever.
00:36:19.34\00:36:20.88
You're free,
make sure you come."
00:36:20.91\00:36:22.44
Amen. Yeah.
00:36:22.48\00:36:23.95
So God really, and...
00:36:23.98\00:36:25.31
During this time, you
never sacrificed your faith,
00:36:25.35\00:36:28.98
you witnessed for
Christ wherever you could,
00:36:29.02\00:36:31.82
you didn't hide that
you're Seventh-day Adventist,
00:36:31.85\00:36:33.22
you lifted up the
energy, and then God blessed you
00:36:33.25\00:36:35.99
with this train of
very wonderful things.
00:36:36.02\00:36:37.89
In fact, this is wonderful
too because one thing I realized
00:36:37.93\00:36:41.53
while I was in Michigan
State is God puts some issues
00:36:41.56\00:36:46.33
in front of you, for example,
so that I could witness.
00:36:46.37\00:36:48.40
For example,
challenge I should say,
00:36:48.44\00:36:52.61
the Sabbath
issues come, and for me,
00:36:52.64\00:36:55.01
because I was supposed
to play for the orchestra
00:36:55.04\00:36:57.65
at Michigan State.
00:36:57.68\00:36:59.01
And when I
realized that performances,
00:36:59.05\00:37:00.88
some of the performances
are going to be in Sabbath,
00:37:00.95\00:37:03.42
I told the conductors,
"I'm not going to be able
00:37:03.45\00:37:05.19
to make this performance."
00:37:05.22\00:37:06.99
And he was shocked, they said,
"What are you talking about?"
00:37:07.02\00:37:09.46
I said, "Yes, I will
not be able to do that
00:37:09.49\00:37:10.99
because I'm a
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:37:11.03\00:37:12.69
I keep the Sabbath."
00:37:12.73\00:37:14.03
He said, "Well, in this
case, you cannot be here
00:37:14.10\00:37:15.43
in the orchestra."
00:37:15.46\00:37:16.80
I said, "Well, I
understand this."
00:37:16.83\00:37:18.93
But I thought he
was going to be...
00:37:18.97\00:37:20.34
It was done, but
all the faculties
00:37:20.37\00:37:22.54
started talking to each
other that I have a new faith.
00:37:22.57\00:37:26.21
Yes.
00:37:26.24\00:37:27.58
And then one of
them come to me and said,
00:37:27.61\00:37:28.94
"Well, Carlot, I heard
you have a new religion."
00:37:28.98\00:37:31.31
I said, "Well, I
don't have a new religion.
00:37:31.35\00:37:32.98
I'm a Seventh-day Adventist.
00:37:33.01\00:37:34.68
Have you ever heard of
Seventh-day Adventist?"
00:37:34.72\00:37:36.79
They say, "Oh, yeah.
00:37:36.82\00:37:38.15
I heard of
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:37:38.19\00:37:39.52
Those are people
who keep the Sabbath."
00:37:39.55\00:37:40.89
But he said, "I
can challenge you that
00:37:40.96\00:37:42.29
you don't have to
keep the Sabbath."
00:37:42.32\00:37:44.13
And I said, "Professor,
that would be great because,
00:37:44.16\00:37:45.83
you know, I love the truth.
00:37:45.86\00:37:47.30
If you don't mind meeting
with me that would be great."
00:37:47.40\00:37:50.33
He said, "Okay, let's meet.
00:37:50.37\00:37:51.70
Send me an email and
we can meet about this."
00:37:51.73\00:37:53.70
And we met, and we
talked about the Sabbath.
00:37:53.74\00:37:56.67
After that I said,
"Professor, this is this paper,"
00:37:56.71\00:38:00.91
there is one
pamphlet that has 100 facts
00:38:00.94\00:38:03.71
about the Sabbath.
00:38:03.78\00:38:05.11
And the root of Sunday worship
and Sabbath, I gave it to him,
00:38:05.15\00:38:08.35
and I said, "Maybe
after you read them,
00:38:08.38\00:38:10.82
we can have a
second conversation."
00:38:10.85\00:38:12.79
He never got back
with me, but I knew why.
00:38:12.82\00:38:14.82
Yeah, 'cause he
read it. He read it.
00:38:14.86\00:38:17.89
He was convicted.
00:38:17.93\00:38:19.26
He was convicted. Sure he was.
00:38:19.29\00:38:20.63
But that same time,
my trumpet professor
00:38:20.66\00:38:24.00
almost cried because he said,
00:38:24.07\00:38:25.40
"Man, I talked to
all the trumpet players
00:38:25.43\00:38:27.54
that I know, they
said there's no way
00:38:27.57\00:38:29.37
you're going to make it."
00:38:29.40\00:38:30.94
And he said, "Well,
can I talk to your pastor?
00:38:30.97\00:38:34.31
Maybe you need
an advisor." Yeah.
00:38:34.34\00:38:37.05
I said, "Well, Professor,
that doesn't work that way.
00:38:37.08\00:38:39.75
It would be hard for me
to know in my conscience
00:38:39.78\00:38:41.95
this is the
truth and then deny it
00:38:41.98\00:38:44.19
just because I
want to please myself,
00:38:44.22\00:38:45.69
and please this professor,
or please this school."
00:38:45.72\00:38:49.69
And at that same
time, I was supposed
00:38:49.72\00:38:51.16
to play in Carnegie Hall.
00:38:51.19\00:38:52.66
Oh, wow.
00:38:52.69\00:38:54.00
And they said, "Well,
I know you cannot come
00:38:54.10\00:38:56.93
play in Sabbath on Saturday,
but in about Carnegie Hall
00:38:56.97\00:39:01.30
is going to be
on Saturday night,
00:39:01.34\00:39:03.30
but except you have to do a
rehearsal on Saturday at 3."
00:39:03.34\00:39:06.91
And I said, "Well,
that's going to be an issue.
00:39:06.94\00:39:09.54
I'm not going to be able
to do that because of this."
00:39:09.58\00:39:12.68
And actually, one of
the professors even said,
00:39:12.71\00:39:16.32
"You know, there was one guy,
00:39:16.35\00:39:17.69
he used to be the same
religion as you, he did it.
00:39:17.72\00:39:20.29
Why can't you do it?"
00:39:20.32\00:39:21.66
I said, "Well, I
understand, Professor,
00:39:21.69\00:39:23.02
but I believe in the Bible,
I believe in what is truth.
00:39:23.06\00:39:26.26
This is what I
believe in the Bible is true.
00:39:26.29\00:39:27.96
I believe the Sabbath.
00:39:28.00\00:39:29.33
There are things
you should not be doing
00:39:29.36\00:39:30.70
in the Sabbath.
00:39:30.77\00:39:32.10
You cannot do any work."
00:39:32.13\00:39:33.47
And he said, "Man, I'm
really sorry for that."
00:39:33.50\00:39:35.54
I said, "Well, don't be
sorry for me, Professor,
00:39:35.57\00:39:37.11
I believe this is
the right thing to do."
00:39:37.14\00:39:40.08
And he said, "Well, it's
only one hour of your life.
00:39:40.11\00:39:44.75
What if...
00:39:44.78\00:39:46.11
You may never have an
opportunity to be in that."
00:39:46.15\00:39:48.05
To do in the Carnegie
Hall. Yeah. Carnegie Hall.
00:39:48.08\00:39:50.59
And I said,
"Professor, I understand,
00:39:50.62\00:39:52.49
but think about this.
00:39:52.52\00:39:54.89
Do you know how
long it took Adam and Eve
00:39:54.92\00:39:56.62
to sin to bring this
world into this mess?"
00:39:56.66\00:40:00.03
And then he looked at
me, he shook his head,
00:40:00.10\00:40:01.40
he said, "Well,
I'm really sorry.
00:40:01.43\00:40:04.30
But there's nothing we can do.
00:40:04.33\00:40:05.67
I'm really sorry for you." Yeah.
00:40:05.70\00:40:07.04
And I said,
"Professor, that's really fine."
00:40:07.10\00:40:09.40
It doesn't stop this way.
00:40:09.44\00:40:10.77
Actually, even in Penn
State I had the same issue.
00:40:10.81\00:40:13.01
Now I want to stop you
there and we'll kind of leave it
00:40:13.04\00:40:15.28
on the cliff if you ever got
to play at Carnegie Hall or not
00:40:15.31\00:40:18.01
because we need
to hear you play,
00:40:18.05\00:40:20.78
and we want to go some muse
just now so that we can hear,
00:40:20.82\00:40:25.72
you know, this gift
that God has given you.
00:40:25.75\00:40:27.79
I think the song is
Tis So Sweet Medley.
00:40:27.82\00:40:30.69
Anything you want
to say to set this up?
00:40:30.73\00:40:32.59
Well, this song,
that's a song that
00:40:32.63\00:40:33.96
we basically just
arranged for studio
00:40:34.00\00:40:36.70
because I just was in
a studio to record a CD.
00:40:36.73\00:40:39.47
This is one of the CDs.
00:40:39.50\00:40:41.60
It's on the CD, so I wanted
to play something on that.
00:40:41.64\00:40:45.24
So this is on the CD
which will be coming out soon.
00:40:45.27\00:40:47.98
All right, Tis So Sweet Medley.
00:40:48.01\00:40:50.71
Well done, very well done.
00:44:52.85\00:44:54.66
And that was a flugelhorn. Yes.
00:44:54.69\00:44:56.06
Little mellower
sound than a trumpet.
00:44:56.09\00:44:57.76
Amen. And beautifully done.
00:44:57.79\00:44:59.13
Now we got to
hurry, man, because
00:44:59.16\00:45:00.83
our time is going
to get away from us.
00:45:00.86\00:45:02.16
You got three testimonies.
00:45:02.20\00:45:03.67
I want you to start with
00:45:03.70\00:45:05.03
the third generation Baptist
Pastor's son who is now...
00:45:05.07\00:45:09.47
Well, I don't want
to get the first line.
00:45:09.50\00:45:10.84
Tell us about
that and how that went.
00:45:10.91\00:45:12.71
We studied...
00:45:12.74\00:45:14.08
I met him on
campus, and I asked him
00:45:14.11\00:45:15.44
for Bible study, although
he kept rescheduling me,
00:45:15.48\00:45:17.98
but the first
time that we studied,
00:45:18.01\00:45:19.68
he thought that I
was a Bible scholar
00:45:19.71\00:45:21.45
because he never found
someone with that truth.
00:45:21.48\00:45:23.99
Later on, he told
me that he met people
00:45:24.02\00:45:26.52
who preached on
the Book of Daniel
00:45:26.55\00:45:28.86
but never 2, never 7, never 11.
00:45:28.89\00:45:32.53
And later on, when he
learned about the Sabbath,
00:45:32.56\00:45:36.43
he challenged his
dad about the Sabbath.
00:45:36.46\00:45:38.70
And that led
him to make decision
00:45:38.73\00:45:40.90
to become a
Seventh-day Adventist
00:45:40.94\00:45:42.27
after probably four months.
00:45:42.30\00:45:44.07
We studied in
April and in August,
00:45:44.11\00:45:46.37
he became a
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:45:46.41\00:45:47.74
Wow.
00:45:47.78\00:45:49.11
And he went to Emmanuel tried
to do Bible study on campus.
00:45:49.14\00:45:51.61
And now he's studying at
Southern to be a minister.
00:45:51.65\00:45:55.62
I think he is a
junior right now.
00:45:55.65\00:45:57.55
Ok. All right.
Studying theology.
00:45:57.59\00:45:59.15
He left a full ride scholarship
00:45:59.19\00:46:01.09
as a jazz major
at Michigan State.
00:46:01.12\00:46:02.92
Wow. A full free
education? Full education.
00:46:02.96\00:46:06.09
Third generation Baptist Pastor,
00:46:06.13\00:46:08.10
now he's studying at
Southern Adventists University
00:46:08.13\00:46:10.50
to be a
Seventh-day Adventist Pastor.
00:46:10.57\00:46:12.17
So you didn't
get to Carnegie Hall,
00:46:12.20\00:46:13.57
but you got one
more in the kingdom.
00:46:13.64\00:46:14.97
Amen. Praise the Lord.
00:46:15.00\00:46:17.61
Now I know you got
another Chinese student.
00:46:17.64\00:46:19.67
Okay, the Chinese
student was a visiting scholar.
00:46:19.71\00:46:25.55
Yes. And I met
her at a bus station.
00:46:25.58\00:46:28.78
I saw her with a
Catechism in her hand.
00:46:28.82\00:46:31.92
And I said, "Oh, man,
she's going to get trapped."
00:46:31.95\00:46:36.36
And I said,
well, let me calm down
00:46:36.39\00:46:38.13
and talk to her.
00:46:38.16\00:46:39.49
And I said, "Wow, it
seems like you love the Bible."
00:46:39.53\00:46:41.56
And she said, "No, no.
00:46:41.60\00:46:42.93
One of my friends tried to
help me to become Catholic."
00:46:42.96\00:46:45.50
And I said,
"Well, by the way..."
00:46:45.53\00:46:47.10
And I have a card that
said free Bible study one on one
00:46:47.14\00:46:52.64
or through Skype or in group.
00:46:52.67\00:46:55.84
And so the most
difficult question,
00:46:55.88\00:46:58.31
and I give it to her.
00:46:58.35\00:47:00.15
And after I give it to
her, when she took her bus,
00:47:00.18\00:47:03.35
and I make that
prayer, I said, "Lord,
00:47:03.42\00:47:04.75
if you want her
to know the truth,
00:47:04.79\00:47:06.79
let her do call me."
00:47:06.82\00:47:08.26
And she emailed me
the next day saying,
00:47:08.29\00:47:10.76
"That's pretty bold to say
00:47:10.79\00:47:12.33
and so the most
difficult question."
00:47:12.36\00:47:14.36
And later on, I
said, "Well, I believe that
00:47:14.36\00:47:17.17
the Bible had the answers."
00:47:17.20\00:47:18.93
And we have lunch, and
we have the Bible study
00:47:18.97\00:47:20.67
after seven
months, she became...
00:47:20.74\00:47:23.64
She was a dead atheist.
00:47:23.71\00:47:25.51
She struggled with it,
but after seven months,
00:47:25.54\00:47:28.38
she decided to make the
step, and crying with her
00:47:28.41\00:47:30.98
an amazing testimony
and became an Adventist.
00:47:31.01\00:47:33.28
Now she is in China
witnessing to other Chinese,
00:47:33.31\00:47:36.99
trying to help
other Chinese to become
00:47:37.02\00:47:38.55
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:47:38.59\00:47:40.79
And of course, the third
story is that the jazz musician
00:47:40.86\00:47:43.83
who ended up marrying a
Seventh-day Adventist Pastor,
00:47:43.86\00:47:46.70
and that is really fabulous.
00:47:46.73\00:47:48.03
And I'm hurrying you
along 'cause I want to get
00:47:48.06\00:47:49.60
to this song, and
the next song is...
00:47:49.63\00:47:52.90
There is a Quiet
Place. There is a Quiet Place.
00:47:52.93\00:47:55.60
This is a beautiful
piece. There is a Quiet Place.
00:47:55.64\00:47:58.77