Participants: CA Murray (Host), Jeff Tatarchuk, Michael Moss II, Seth Hill, Taylor Paris
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017059A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:09 My name is CA Murray, 01:11 and allow me once again to thank you for sharing 01:13 just a little of your no doubt busy day with us. 01:16 To thank you for your love, your prayers, 01:18 your support of Three Angels Broadcasting Network 01:20 because we realize we could not do 01:22 what we're called to do without you support, 01:24 without your prayers, and without your partnership. 01:26 So when we say that, 01:27 it's not just something that comes from our mouth, 01:29 it comes from our hearts. 01:30 We do thank you for partnering with us. 01:32 I'm excited today 01:34 because I'm in the presence of four pretty cool guys. 01:38 And I'm also a little overdressed. 01:41 But these are really, really neat guys. 01:42 And the ministry we're gonna talk about today, 01:44 and it is a ministry is something that is unique. 01:48 I would say it is a niche ministry. 01:50 It is something whose time has come. 01:52 It is something that can be a benefit 01:53 to the persons involved, 01:55 and to the community at large, and to the church, 01:58 and to the cause of Christ. 02:00 So we've got a really, really good program. 02:02 I want you to draw close and listen good, 02:04 because you're gonna hear some stuff today 02:06 that may help you, 02:07 and that may dare I say affect 02:10 the rest of your life here on earth 02:12 and help towards the coming of the Lord 02:15 and Savior Jesus Christ. 02:17 This is really neat stuff. 02:18 I am a wash entitles here, 02:20 I got CEOs to the left and CEOs to the right. 02:23 We got founders. We got ministries. 02:25 Let's start with Jeff Tatarchuk. 02:26 Jeff, good to have you here, man. 02:27 It is pleasure. Thank you for having me. 02:29 Jeff is the co-founder of Fruition Lab, 02:31 even the name is cool. 02:33 And we're gonna talk about that what that is, 02:35 what it seeks to do, what it is doing, 02:37 and what the Lord is blessing it to do. 02:40 Close on his heels, co-founder Taylor Paris. 02:42 Taylor, good to have you here, man. 02:43 Thank you. 02:44 He is the co-founder of Fruition Lab. 02:46 Then we've got some mentees. Can I say mentees? 02:50 If you guys are the mentors, then these are the mentees. 02:53 This looking like little kid here 02:56 is not a little kid. 02:57 This is Seth Hill. 02:59 Seth is the founder and CEO, 03:01 that young kid and the title CEO 03:03 of SWAYY, S.W.A.Y.Y. 03:07 We need to find out what SWAYY is all about. 03:08 And last but not least, Mr. Michael Moss, 03:11 founder of Pain4Purpose. 03:14 Absolutely. 03:15 And we got to know what that's all about? 03:17 It's coming soon. 03:20 You'll find these guys are pretty sharp too. 03:21 I found it about all four of them. 03:23 They're pretty sharp. 03:24 They are not slack in any good thing. 03:26 And I really want you to pay attention 03:29 to this particular program 03:30 because we're gonna talk about entrepreneurship. 03:33 And they're part in this. This is really good stuff. 03:39 But I want to get some before we go to our music, 03:41 I want to get some history on all of you. 03:44 Jeff, where are you from? 03:45 Originally from San Bernardino, California. 03:48 Grow up in Adventist home? I did. 03:49 Good Christian home, great parents. 03:52 Now you're beginning. 03:54 When you started it out, it was to go into ministry. 03:56 And you actually did evangelism for a while. 03:58 Yep. 03:59 I was a convert evangelist for many years, 04:00 went to Amazing Facts back in 2004, did Bible work, 04:04 and yeah, decided I wanted to use enterprise 04:08 as my means of reaching the world. 04:10 And got as far as the seminary and the Lord said, 04:13 I got something else for you to do 04:14 which is in its own way ministry, 04:16 just didn't want you in a pulpit. 04:17 That's right. 04:19 Yeah, got something else to do. Yeah. 04:20 Meanwhile you picked up a friend. 04:22 Taylor, you guys met undergrad, correct? 04:24 Yeah, we met at a Southern. Yeah. 04:26 I keep saying this guy's got my voice, you know. 04:28 I should pray for that voice. I wanted that voice. 04:31 Give me that voice. Love that voice. 04:34 Where are you from, Taylor? I live in Orlando, Florida. 04:37 Born in Orlando? 04:38 No, I grew up in Tennessee in Nashville area. 04:42 Adventist home? Yes, yeah. 04:43 Brothers and sisters? 04:45 Yeah, one brother and one sister 04:46 right in the middle. 04:48 Okay, you went to Southern, you didn't go too far a field. 04:50 You kind of stayed, kind of close to home, 04:51 yeah, yeah, praise the Lord. 04:53 Praise the Lord. 04:54 Seth. Yes, sir. 04:55 Where are you from? 04:57 I'm from Chattanooga, Tennessee, 04:58 grown up in Asheville, North Carolina. 05:00 That's what I hear. Okay. 05:01 That Asheville North Carolina thing 05:03 is kind of slipping out on you. 05:04 Did you go to Southern also? 05:06 I did actually just graduate not a long ago. 05:08 Okay, now I feel better. Yeah. 05:09 Okay, I thought that this guy 05:11 is drinking or eating something, 05:12 really he must be a vegetarian or something 05:13 because he's looking really young. 05:15 That's right. 05:16 But you just got out of school, so that's quite all right, 05:18 Adventist home? Yes, I did. 05:21 And Michael Moss, where are you from? 05:23 Well, I'm about staying guy, 05:24 I heard the West Coast in the south 05:26 represented very heavily 05:27 from the great city of Kansas City, 05:29 Missouri in the Midwest so we balanced... 05:32 All right, about six hours east to here, west of here rather, 05:34 yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 05:35 Adventist home growing up? 05:37 Actually I just trusted you. I apologize. 05:38 I don't know if it's east or west 05:40 but I know, Kansas City in the middle of the map. 05:42 Okay. 05:45 Trust me on this one. Absolutely. 05:47 I know we're close. Yeah. 05:49 I need to ask all of you, 05:51 good looking intelligent smart guys. 05:55 And I'll start with you Jeff, 05:56 when did the whole Jesus one on one relation do you think 06:00 'cause you could be born into an Adventist home, 06:01 doesn't make an Adventist, doesn't make you a Christian. 06:03 Right. 06:04 When did that occur to you 06:06 as far as one on one relationship is concerned? 06:07 Yeah, I actually went to a... 06:09 I was raised in Loma Linda around Adventism 06:12 and I had rejected it. 06:13 And I became an atheist as a matter of fact. 06:15 And my parents during about the eighth grade 06:17 send me off to a school called the Advent home, 06:19 a group home. 06:21 I know. 06:22 A faith based group home 06:23 that really transformed my life. 06:25 And somebody had asked me a question 06:27 to come to a Bible study. 06:28 And I was able to, I said, 06:30 "No, I don't actually believe in the Bible." 06:31 And he asked, he said, 06:33 "Why don't you believe in the Bible?" 06:34 And I remember thinking to myself, 06:35 I don't really know why I don't believe in the Bible. 06:37 But it was that seed of doubt that caused me to, 06:40 you know, go into the word and learn more about Jesus. 06:42 I read a book by Max Lucado called He Chose Nails 06:45 that rocked my world about the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. 06:47 Yes. 06:49 And broke my heart, man, 06:50 and ever since then I just want to share 06:52 the hope of Jesus with the world. 06:53 Praise the Lord. 06:54 Advent home, I know that ministry very, very well. 06:56 They've been here some time in the past. 06:58 Yeah. That's like boot camp. 07:00 Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Adventist boot camp. 07:04 But it changed my life, man. Yeah, yeah. 07:06 Taylor, same question for you? 07:08 Yeah, so I grew up in a good Christian home, 07:11 Adventist home and amazing family. 07:15 But for me it wasn't a real experience 07:18 until high school. 07:19 So I knew the stories, 07:21 I knew all of the different lessons and values 07:25 but didn't become real 07:26 until I started seeing it in action. 07:29 So doing evangelism 07:32 actually is what brought it to life for me, 07:33 so going out and doing Bible studies with people, 07:37 going door to door selling books, Christian books. 07:40 Oh, okay. 07:41 And it started to come alive 07:43 where you saw the gospel not only in my life 07:46 but in the lives of the people that we're reaching out to. 07:49 And that's where it really started to hit. 07:51 And it went from a fairy tale to a personal history 07:57 that now impacting, still impacting me so. 08:00 Praise the Lord. 08:01 Seth, from Asheville, North Carolina, 08:03 Adventist home? 08:05 Yeah, Adventist home. 08:06 From young age, thought my life was pretty normal 08:08 until about the age of 16. 08:10 And then tragedy struck my family, 08:13 my father took his life. 08:15 And I just didn't know where to turn. 08:16 So I started going to school 08:19 at Southern Adventist University, 08:20 this is number years after that happened. 08:22 It was actually in 2008 and by this time 08:24 I was just really questioning, 08:26 you know, okay, I believe in God, 08:27 I know He's there 08:29 but what part does He have to play in my life? 08:30 So I started to dabble into all kinds of things. 08:33 I did some drugs, 08:35 I did some of the witchcraft stuff, 08:36 nothing too deep and dark 08:38 but even when you touch this kind of things, 08:40 it tends to mar your character to a great extent. 08:43 So long story short 08:44 after a number of years at Southern, 08:46 I decided that God wanted me to go 08:48 be a student missionary through some miraculous events. 08:52 So I went overseas to live in the Philippines for a year 08:54 and in living there 08:56 I found out something very important, 08:57 you can't run from your sins, 08:59 let alone your addictions 09:00 'cause they followed me 09:02 6,000 plus miles across the world 09:03 and I realized well, I really have no where to go. 09:05 And I found myself in some pretty dark 09:07 and disgusting situations 09:09 with just feeding on my addictions 09:12 and in hiding to such a point 09:13 to where I took a step back one day 09:15 and looked at myself and realized. 09:18 If I keep doing this, I'm gonna die, 09:19 like it's killing me every way that I know. 09:22 So after spending more time in the Philippines, 09:25 I got on my knees and I prayed "Lord, 09:27 if you want to change my life, I give it to you now. 09:29 I can't change anything but I need you." 09:31 So that kind of put forward the first steps 09:35 to God really becoming my own personal Savior 09:39 after talking with Him, you know, actually getting to. 09:42 Get on my knees and pray 09:43 and feel like I was having a conversation 09:45 rather than just rattling off a list of God, 09:47 here's your to do list for the next month. 09:48 Yeah. So yeah. 09:51 Well said. 09:53 You look at the first good looking young guy 09:54 never know what was behind all that stuff. 09:57 Glad you are where you are man. 09:58 We'll be gonna talking talk about in a little bit. 10:00 Michael, give me some history man. 10:01 When did this thing become real for you? 10:03 Oh, well, first of, wow, 10:06 that's awesome, Seth. 10:09 Thanks for allowing me to go behind that. 10:13 It's not a contest. 10:14 It's not a contest at all, 10:15 but honestly Adventism in my Christian walk, 10:20 I feel like it's always been, 10:22 it's always been real from just acknowledge 10:25 and just how hard I've seen my parents go, 10:28 they weren't born into the Adventist faith. 10:29 So their convictions are that they're very strong about it, 10:32 seeing different preachers or pastors 10:34 that I grew up and understand their relationship, 10:37 I was very impressed in. 10:38 But it didn't become personal for me 10:40 until probably about 2009. 10:42 I think when I first actually started learning, 10:46 maybe a little bit earlier than that when I started learning 10:48 about the sanctuary message. 10:49 We were talking about this on the right over here. 10:52 And when you just get into the details of seeing 10:54 how specific the guy was in terms of everything 10:57 he wanted to go through 10:59 in order to sacrifice his life for me. 11:01 It wasn't just even just a sacrifice 11:03 which was enough. 11:05 It was a fact everything was planned out to a tee 11:07 to do it for somebody, someone deserving as myself. 11:11 A lot of things that I feel like I compromise 11:13 or want to argue whether or not it's worth given up 11:16 or if I should hold on to. 11:18 It's just not worth it at that point. 11:19 Once you realize how much someone means to you 11:22 or you mean to someone, 11:23 you want to go ahead and reciprocate that. 11:25 So for me, it became real at that point. 11:28 And then I was like, if God had given this up of me, 11:31 just living for you really makes you happy then. 11:34 You know what, is you worth it. 11:36 You know saying not whether it's worth it but you are, 11:38 you know, so I'll drop the things 11:41 that seem to appear to be meaningful here 11:46 if it's in comparison to you. 11:48 And so I think that's when it became real for myself 11:51 and ever since then, I'm excited about it. 11:53 Good, good. Well said. 11:55 Everybody's got to ask the question 11:57 and answer the question at some point 11:59 in the Christian walk, how much is Christ worth to me. 12:02 He's answered a question, you are worth His life. 12:05 Now you got to reciprocate how much He's worth to me? 12:07 And once you answer that question, 12:08 you're free to advance. 12:10 But as long as you put that answer off, 12:12 you never will grow. 12:13 You got to ask if He's worth all, 12:14 then you give Him all. 12:16 Now before we go to our music, 12:17 I got to find out who's married? 12:18 I know, Jeff you are. 12:20 Taylor, no. No. 12:21 Seth, no. Yeah, I'm married. 12:23 Oh, you're married. I'm married. 12:25 That's ridiculous. 12:27 It's only been a month and half. 12:28 Oh, okay, newly married guy. 12:30 Oh, friends. And Michael, no. 12:32 Absolutely no. So two yes, two nos. 12:33 We got two guys, where's my camera. 12:35 We got two guys 12:38 that we need to get married off. 12:39 These are entrepreneurial guys and they are spiritual guys. 12:42 I like these guys. 12:43 So we'll give you 12:44 some contact information a little bit later. 12:46 But praise the Lord. 12:47 I'm having a little fun too 12:49 because I like what you're doing, 12:50 you know, you're, this is a good ministry, 12:51 we're gonna get into this. 12:53 Want to go to our music just now, 12:54 then we're gonna really mine this ministry 12:55 and talk about some of the things 12:57 that are happening. 12:58 Our music is coming from the Burchfield Brothers. 13:00 This is Jon and Benji, two consummate musicians. 13:04 And they're gonna be playing "There is a Quiet Place". 15:44 Well done, the Burchfield Brothers. 15:45 I am in the company of Jeff Tatarchuk. 15:49 Nailed it. Praise the Lord. 15:52 Taylor Paris, fairly easy. Seth Hill, real easy. 15:55 Michael Moss, very easy. Okay. 15:57 Once you get past Tatarchuk, it's like a roller... 16:01 Let's talk about this because you guys met undergrad 16:04 and then I'll come to Seth and Mike a little bit later. 16:07 But Fruition, where the name come from 16:10 and what do you seek to do, 16:11 let's kind of, let's lay it out there. 16:12 Well, Fruition was born out of a desire to help. 16:16 You know, I took theology in undergrad. 16:19 And but even while we were undergrad 16:21 we were starting little businesses, 16:23 we had started a couple of ministries 16:25 while we were there. 16:26 And I like the idea of making ideas a reality. 16:30 And so that stayed with me all the way through 16:32 and I got to the seminary and I started a thrift shop, 16:37 you know, there was one thrift shop in town, 16:38 it was only open two days a week, 16:40 I said, I'm gonna open one that's gonna open five days 16:42 and see what happens. And did that, 16:44 I had a seminary friend of mine come to me and ask, 16:46 "Hey, can you help me start a business, 16:47 I want to start a wedding company." 16:49 I said, "Sure." 16:50 And within a few hours we had his business up online 16:52 and by the end of the week he was getting calls 16:54 and by the end of the month, 16:55 he was getting deposits for his business 16:57 before he had any equipment, before he had anything. 16:59 And he said, "Man, I'd love to give you a percentage 17:03 of the profits of my business 17:04 'cause you helped me get over that first hurdle." 17:06 And I said, "Listen, I know how hard it is 17:08 to start a business. 17:09 You keep your money 17:11 and I will find more joy in seeing you succeed 17:14 than any money you can give me." 17:16 And I remember thinking of myself going back, 17:17 you know, living on a, 17:19 you know, a seminary stipend at the time, 17:21 thinking to myself like, 17:23 "Man, I just gave up on some potential money, 17:24 I don't know if he's gonna succeed or not 17:26 but I gave up, why did I do it." 17:27 And the word fruition is the word that came to mind. 17:29 When I googled it, 17:31 happened to have my laptop in front of me 17:32 and the first thing means 17:34 to bring something to completion 17:35 but the secondary term mean the sense of enjoyment. 17:37 And, you know, you press more on the bottom and it expanded, 17:41 and it went into, 17:42 the Latin of the word literally means to enjoy. 17:44 And so I think there is a beauty 17:47 in the process of seeing a thought, 17:50 immaterial thought become a sustainable reality. 17:53 And I think that's something that God wants all of us 17:57 to experience is to experience thoughts becoming a reality. 18:00 And so I found joy in helping walking people 18:03 through that process. 18:04 And so, I said, "Hey, I know there's other people out there 18:07 that have great ideas, 18:09 let's grab all of the other entrepreneurs together 18:10 that I could think of 18:12 and let's make great things happen." 18:14 And so that's kind of how Fruition Lab came together. 18:16 Taylor and I had worked on some stuff in undergrad. 18:18 And we said, "Man, let's rally the troops." 18:22 Now tell were you at Andrews at the time or you just, 18:23 this is kind of like a phone, email kind of thing. 18:25 Yeah, just phone, email. 18:29 And I was in Orlando, Florida. 18:31 So we decided, you know something 18:33 we wanted to connect on, so we started doing it. 18:35 Now what were you doing once you left school? 18:36 So once I left, I spent some time in Ethiopia 18:41 at a hospital there working and then I came back 18:45 and worked in health care finance 18:47 in Florida for a Florida hospital. 18:50 Florida hospital, yeah. 18:51 Your undergrad degree is in? Accounting. 18:53 In accounting. Good guy to have around. 18:59 So obviously you were so invested in this thought 19:01 that you left your track 19:04 as far as pulpit evangelism is concerned 19:07 and really devoted your full time... 19:08 Well, I stayed in seminary, 19:10 I stayed in seminary with the hope that, 19:11 hey, let's re-stoke the flame of entrepreneurship 19:14 again in this church. 19:16 You know, I feel like God 19:17 being the very first entrepreneur 19:18 who took the thought of, 19:20 you know, you know taking the world 19:21 that was without form and void and bringing form out of chaos, 19:25 which is what an entrepreneur does, 19:26 they see a problem 19:28 and they bring something out of it, 19:29 bring something good out of it, which is what God did. 19:31 And then he had another thought, 19:32 He said, "Man, I want to make man in our image." 19:34 And He took that thought, 19:36 literally came down and took the resources 19:37 that He already had created and spoke into existence, 19:40 He took those resources that he had at his disposal, 19:42 fashion man 19:43 and then breathed His life into that thing 19:45 which is the definition of an entrepreneur, man. 19:48 And yes not only did He give that ability 19:52 but not only did He create 19:54 but He created us with the ability to create. 19:56 Yeah. 19:57 And that's something that I wanted to continue 19:59 to re-inspire. 20:00 So I stayed in seminary. 20:02 You know, I consider myself an entrepreneurial evangelist 20:03 like I would always be an evangelist. 20:07 I will always be an evangelist but through enterprise I found, 20:09 I was able to make a greater impact 20:11 outside the walls of the four church. 20:13 Praise the Lord. 20:15 First of all I think that's a unique way 20:16 to look at it, 20:18 but also that you invest so much 20:19 in because ministry is where you find, 20:21 there's pulpit ministry 20:23 but there's many other ways to minister. 20:25 And when you have a business as is the motto of ASI, 20:30 it does give you a platform from which to minister, 20:33 you know. 20:34 So if we were to say in a word Fruition Ministries 20:39 is a ministry that mentors... 20:42 Yeah, connects, educates and inspires, 20:45 impact driven entrepreneurs. 20:46 Entrepreneurs, okay. 20:48 So you're looking to help young people 20:51 that have an idea 20:54 and want to put some legs on that an idea, see, 20:55 and get up, and walk. 20:57 That's right. Okay. 20:58 Now you've tested this out, 20:59 you field tested this because you went to 21:02 and I've been to Berrien Springs, 21:03 I've been to Berrien Springs, 21:04 it's not that much there besides Apple Valley market 21:07 and Andrews University. 21:09 So you started a thrift store, something needed, 21:14 was it a success? 21:16 It was. 21:17 But my business partner had a brain aneurism 21:18 about a year or two, 21:20 we weren't able to keep it open. 21:21 Shut down, I felt like a failure. 21:22 Gave a lot of weight, needed to do something 21:24 and my friend introduced me to the burpee 21:27 which is the fitness term 21:28 for falling down and getting back up again. 21:31 And so we were... 21:32 Come on, Jeff. 21:34 You let us speak that thing. 21:35 So we were able to literally take this fitness opportunity 21:40 and turn our thrift store 21:41 which I still had a lease for the next two years, 21:44 from a thrift store 21:45 into what was then a crossway gym 21:47 which we've been able to grow and expand. 21:48 Same facility? Same facility. 21:50 Just changed it? Just changed it. 21:51 Really the pivot, man. 21:53 It's been impacting the community, 21:54 there's no gym within 10 miles of the area, 21:56 other than what's at the school itself. 21:58 And we were, we were sustainable 21:59 the very first day we opened which rocks my world, man, 22:02 it was exciting to see and be a part of that. 22:03 Yeah. 22:05 You know, the idea 22:06 and when we were talking off camera, 22:08 the same thing you see a niche and you feel it, 22:12 and there is certainly the foundation for success. 22:16 You've got a community of health conscious people, 22:18 you know, when you say Adventist you think health, 22:21 people running on the street doing all the kind of things, 22:22 no gym. 22:23 That's right. 22:25 Could there be a better fit for that community, 22:26 for any Adventist community than a gym, 22:28 so you fulfilled that need. 22:29 And there's not a lot to do 22:30 in the winter in Berrien Springs. 22:32 We needed a warm place to stay active. 22:33 Precisely. 22:35 So the gym worked out great. 'Cause winter is winter. 22:37 It ain't going anywhere, any time. 22:39 No joke, no sir. 22:40 It is... 22:42 So that was successful. Yeah. 22:43 We've been doing it 22:44 for the last four years and have, 22:46 you know, we were able to buy our building, 22:48 grow, triple our size. 22:50 And it's been a huge blessing to myself 22:53 and my wife as well who joined the team. 22:55 In the meanwhile you sold that and you're on to something, 22:58 on to the next challenge. 22:59 On to the next one, man. Bless your heart. 23:01 Now here's what I like, 23:02 and I wanted to move to Seth and Michael. 23:08 You have this idea now, 23:10 you know, it works 23:11 because you seen it work in several places 23:14 and worked well and worked quickly. 23:16 So now you want to turn this into a ministry 23:18 where you can begin to mentor other young people 23:20 and stoke their entrepreneurial fires. 23:24 How do you go from, 23:25 I've seen it work with my friend group 23:27 around me at Andrews 23:28 to making it more of a national thing 23:30 and getting guys like Seth and Michael on board? 23:32 Yeah. 23:34 So you know one thing that we were really, 23:36 really blessed to do is we had a conference, 23:38 an annual conference every year. 23:40 So building a network of people 23:42 because it really is in the network of people 23:44 that are out there 23:46 they can help each other, you know. 23:47 And one thing that we're really passionate 23:49 about is what can you give, not what can you get. 23:53 So there's so many people that have experiences 23:55 they want to give back. 23:56 And so we're providing a platform 23:58 for people to do that. 24:00 In addition you know, 24:01 we're working to develop an online resource 24:04 where people can go and develop ideas 24:08 and be able to connect and learn and grow, 24:11 so they can take their idea from, 24:13 just an idea where they can actually launch it 24:16 and do something meaningful. 24:18 So you're reaching out 24:20 in training and mentoring other people 24:22 who want to do that. 24:23 And one of the things we found 24:24 is that an entrepreneur is a problem solver 24:26 and at any stage of the entrepreneurial journey, 24:28 it doesn't matter if you're just starting out, 24:30 you just have an idea 24:31 you're curious about entrepreneurship 24:33 or you had an acquisition, 24:34 you sold your business and you're in retirement. 24:36 Everybody is faced with an obstacle. 24:38 And we at Fruition want to help people overcome 24:40 those obstacles to achieve a greater success 24:44 in their life business and ministry. 24:46 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 24:47 And kind of add to that 24:49 the opportunity is really on the impact side, you know. 24:52 So we, Jeff's talking about creativity 24:54 and how God implanted creativity inside all of us. 24:57 But also you know we have a desire 25:00 as Christians to give and be an impact in society. 25:03 You look at history with Waldenses 25:05 where they said, 25:07 you know, they would have spurned as missionaries 25:09 but welcomed as merchants. 25:11 And the opportunity as Christians 25:14 to use enterprise to impact society is right now 25:18 one of the largest opportunities available. 25:21 And at the point we're at, 25:22 the opportunity to be involved in enterprise 25:25 and impact society is a place 25:27 where it hasn't been before so to be able to do 25:30 that we feel is just a sublime opportunity. 25:33 Very, very cool. 25:34 Yeah, that's pretty right brain stuff 25:35 coming from the accountant. 25:37 Well said. I appreciate that. 25:38 Now Seth and Mike, you actually do get to talk. 25:42 And I want to move to you guys 25:45 because obviously you connected, 25:48 how did you find out about Fruition, Seth? 25:51 I found out about Fruition 25:53 actually through one of my kind of side 25:55 contracting jobs through the Adventist Review. 25:57 I was working and doing some advertising stuff, 25:58 and Jared Thurman 26:00 who is a big marketing liaison and the guy there. 26:04 Yeah, he told me about Jeff 26:06 and that they were having an event for entrepreneurs, 26:09 specifically Adventist to kind of bring them in, 26:11 so that we could you know network 26:13 then they can inspire 26:14 so we can learn how to take our idea 26:16 and make it into something. 26:17 So that's how I heard about it and I talked to Jeff and Taylor 26:20 and they told me about a picture at the end 26:22 that they were going to be having 26:23 where essentially you bring your business idea 26:25 to some panelists 26:26 and there's investors on that panel 26:28 and they may or may not just invest in you. 26:30 Oh, kind of a shark tank. Yeah. 26:32 So it's essentially, exactly. For better. 26:36 Yeah, for better. 26:41 And again you're mentoring or you're networking people 26:45 with money with people with ideas. 26:47 And of course that confluence, then you've got, 26:49 you've got something to work. 26:51 So that's how you kind of got started. 26:52 Yeah. Okay. 26:54 And your idea was for SWAYY, 26:55 did you present SWAYY to them at that time? 26:57 I did. I presented SWAYY. 26:58 So, yeah, we do insulated hammocks, 27:00 that's what that is. 27:02 Insulated hammocks. 27:03 Fully insulated, 27:05 just like a sleeping bag between two trees. 27:06 Oh-oh. Whoa. 27:08 Game changer. 27:13 Insulated hammocks. Yeah. 27:14 So it's a fully insulated hammocks. 27:15 So the idea actually came... 27:18 That's about SWAYY. Yeah. 27:20 It's an action word, you know, sway. 27:23 So the first, the actual idea, what is SWAYY? 27:26 So I found out that you know while going camping 27:29 with a regular hammock, 27:30 thinking outside even during the summer months 27:33 because of the wind going underneath you, 27:36 and over top of you, you have that bridge, 27:37 ices before the road effect where you get really cold. 27:40 So I had that idea and I went to the Philippines with it. 27:42 And then after being in the Philippines for a year 27:44 I had my why, 27:45 and that was my buddy 27:47 and I starting a nonprofit organization 27:49 for doing work in the Philippines. 27:51 And then I realized, okay, now I have a what, 27:52 I have enterprise and I have the why, 27:54 and then when I heard about Fruition, 27:55 I was like, oh, 27:57 that's the perfect place to go 27:58 because I can connect with like minded people. 28:00 They can be inspired by what I'm doing 28:01 and I can be inspired by what they're doing there. 28:04 And just kind of the networking and building it from there. 28:06 Wow. Interesting. Very, very good. 28:09 So was your idea accepted? 28:11 It was really accepted, 28:12 I got really good encouragement. 28:14 I actually got my first initial set of preorders, 28:17 Taylor being the number one person for preorder. 28:20 So that you know that gave me a lot of confidence 28:22 because it was at that point 28:24 that it wasn't just the product people 28:25 believed in but I realized that they believe in the story. 28:29 And that's what I think 28:30 it's so great about Fruition Lab 28:31 is that they bring you to space 28:33 where you're able to really connect your why 28:35 with your what, your story with the idea, 28:37 your purpose with the business plan. 28:39 And then kind of move it forward from there. 28:40 And that was how long ago? 28:42 Fruition or... 28:43 When you made that connection with Fruition? 28:45 Yeah, that was just almost a year ago. 28:47 Okay, so this is happening in real time kind of rapidly. 28:50 Oh, yeah, yeah, very busy every day. 28:52 Good deal. Good deal. 28:54 So things are going good, you're moving forward? 28:56 They are going really well, 28:57 we just completed our first business acquisition, 28:59 in the middle of it 29:00 I'll finish it tomorrow actually 29:02 with another guy 29:03 who's been in the industry for a while, 29:05 Steven Webb, awesome guy. 29:07 And yeah, so it's going well, we've got a preorders, 29:10 we're started taking more orders, 29:11 we're making our first batch of 60 hammocks. 29:14 And I'm planning to keep moving forward. 29:16 They must be proud of you. 29:17 You are sovereign enough to take 29:19 on to yourself a wife so... 29:22 Didn't someone just order one for you 29:25 and you have found out that it was sold out from him, 29:29 you encouraged him to grab one, he was like, oh, brought, 29:32 think it was sold out, he was like, it is. 29:34 Yeah, I had to check that out. We found that out together. 29:36 So it's moving a lot more rapidly then as well. 29:38 Yeah, yeah. 29:40 Coming to you Michael, Jeff, 29:42 it must be fairly satisfying 29:44 and make you feel good to know that the principles 29:46 that you and Taylor put together 29:48 are actually beginning to give birth now. 29:50 You're beginning to see a down, 29:52 a downstream to what you started. 29:53 Absolutely. 29:54 That's why even the thought of, 29:56 you know, we don't consider them our mentees, 29:57 entrepreneurs we're all in this thing together. 30:01 There's no process, 30:03 there's nobody above anybody else, 30:04 but we get each other, 30:05 we know that there are certain things 30:07 that have to take place 30:08 in order to make something successful. 30:09 I think being around like minded people 30:11 gives you the confidence and the encouragement 30:13 to push through any obstacles that you're going to face. 30:15 And so, yeah, it's absolutely rewarding. 30:18 Good deal. Good deal. Good deal. 30:19 Michael, Pain4purpose? Absolutely. 30:23 First, how did you get connected with Fruition? 30:28 So starting out with Fruition, word of mouth, 30:31 family loyalty is big to me and Taylor is best friends 30:35 with my youngest brother, Marshall. 30:38 And Marshall spoke his name, 30:41 he's like Taylor's coming up with something, 30:43 he's really big. 30:44 We need you to put the word of mouth behind him. 30:47 He knows I'm a very passionate person. 30:49 He knows if I put something out 30:53 individuals are gonna want to know 30:55 what I'm talking about. 30:56 I'm very passionate, I'm very, very... 31:01 What's the word 31:02 when you're energetic and things of something? 31:07 Okay. How about energetic? 31:10 Okay. Energetic works. 31:11 Okay. All of the above. 31:15 People know if I'm excited about something, 31:18 it's for a reason. 31:19 So when Marshall told me about this 31:21 out of loyalty alone, I was like, 31:23 okay, well, we'll give it a shot. 31:25 I had no idea what I was walking into. 31:27 But I felt like it deserved an opportunity 31:29 simply of the fact 31:31 that it meant something to someone that I cared about. 31:33 And so as a result of coming to it 31:36 and this is where my excitement grows 31:38 is because I'm walking into this blind 31:40 with no expectations. 31:41 You know, I took a week off for work 31:44 and I flew out there to just check it out and see, 31:47 just to let him know I believe in you 31:50 and I'm here for you, just to be a part. 31:52 Now what was this, 31:53 where was this, you say flew out there, 31:55 where did you go? 31:56 I went out to Arizona, was it Scottsdale? 31:57 Phoenix. Phoenix. It was Phoenix. 31:59 So we flew out to Phoenix and I'm telling you, 32:03 I went out there expecting to be a blessing 32:06 like I wanted to be of service to Taylor, 32:09 had no idea 32:11 that this would be so life changing for me. 32:13 And this is when everything clicked. 32:16 Walk me through what happened at the meeting? 32:17 So I walk into first of all, 32:20 instantly the energy when you first get there. 32:22 For me being motivational speaker, 32:27 my personality instantly is all about energy. 32:29 So when I come up, 32:31 I can have a good time with individuals 32:32 who don't have the same energy as me 32:35 but I'll have to do more work. 32:36 You see what I'm saying. 32:38 When people match that and when they introduced that, 32:40 it sets a standard for what to expect. 32:42 And it's going to feed off itself too. 32:43 And before we could even walk into the building 32:47 there were people outside looking for us 32:48 to greet us with excitement. 32:50 I'm not talking about the opening day 32:51 when we started. 32:53 They were just looking for us to let us know 32:54 where everything was going, where we'll be going. 32:56 But when you have 32:57 that type of excitement starting now, 32:59 your attitude starts to change and the way 33:01 that you look at you, 33:03 what am I walking into, what am I about to experience, 33:05 why is everyone else excited? 33:07 Should I be excited already? 33:09 What am I about to... 33:10 What I'm about to encounter? 33:12 And that, in that moment 33:14 is when I start preparing myself subliminally 33:16 for what I didn't even realize was going to happen. 33:19 And so once we finally went in there besides the fact 33:22 that my father was able to come, 33:24 one of my best friends James Brandon 33:26 was able to join us, 33:28 my little brother Marshall was there, 33:29 I had so many familiar faces 33:31 that I was able to partake 33:33 in this life changing experience with me. 33:36 It blew my mind. 33:37 Now let me walk you through, 33:39 what about this was life changing? 33:44 Which part? Okay. We'll start somewhere. 33:46 So walking in, 33:51 seeing individuals that I admired, 33:54 seeing individuals passionately talk 33:56 about what they were gifted at that spoke to my passion 33:59 and my purpose and my dream. 34:01 Seeing them speak on things 34:03 and having such an opportunity to be in association with them, 34:09 without someone standing there, 34:11 "Oh, hey, I know Michael, 34:13 you can have a conversation with him 34:15 because you know me type of thing like." 34:16 Just the fact 34:18 that we were at Fruition gave me a platform 34:20 to be able to speak to them, 34:21 without me having to feel 34:23 or explain myself of why I deserved a conversation 34:26 or why I was backing for a moment 34:28 of their time type of thing. 34:29 And it's amazing thing 34:32 just like he shunned away the mentee type thing, 34:35 he said, we're all on the same level. 34:36 I'm privileged to be a mentee 34:38 if that's what you want to call me 34:40 to this because I learned so much from these individuals. 34:42 So there's a synergy going on. 34:43 I got to leave you on 34:45 because I want to get to this Pain4purpose, 34:48 what is it? 34:49 Where did that title come from? And what are you seeking to do? 34:51 Pain4purpose is my life. 34:53 Number one, 34:54 it's my motivation in encouraging individuals 34:59 I never understood. 35:01 Me even choosing to do motivational speaking 35:03 being passionate about this is not because I thought 35:06 that this was a great profession is because 35:08 I never understood how many individuals 35:10 don't see the good that I see in them. 35:13 I see so much in individuals and it excites me 35:15 for them to see it 35:16 just kind of I guess like Fruition. 35:18 And what happens is that when I tell them about it, 35:22 I never realize the surprise it takes on individuals. 35:25 And I'm like why is this new to you, 35:27 do you not know, what you're capable of? 35:29 And what I see in you. 35:31 And once I realize 35:32 how many individuals out there didn't see it. 35:35 It became a passion thing for me. 35:37 So Pain4purpose for me originated probably in college, 35:41 you know, I really struggled with school, very hard. 35:45 And for me a lot of things naturally came easy for me. 35:47 And people gravitated to my personality 35:49 which was something 35:50 that was extremely normal for me, 35:52 but a lot of people enjoy hearing someone 35:54 who can I guess rock the crowd 35:55 or I have individuals laughing at the tip of a word 36:00 or a comment or statement. 36:02 And for me it was normal 36:04 so I would do that in a group of two or three people, 36:06 but when the big crowds do it 36:08 they think that it's something special with you 36:09 but it was something normal. 36:10 So I started, 36:12 I started accepting what people consider great 36:15 that was extremely average for myself. 36:17 And so I never had anyone set a higher standard for me 36:20 because everybody accepted my good is great, you know. 36:24 And so what was ordinary for me was, 36:26 it was extraordinary 36:27 to other individuals, they celebrate... 36:28 So you say you had a gift for this? 36:30 God had given you a special gift. 36:32 I had a gift that. All right. 36:33 And so what happens 36:35 that when I finally faced something 36:36 that was out of my comfort zone 36:37 which was naturally maybe school 36:39 or I didn't realize 36:41 how to go about searching for answers or for help. 36:44 And so instead of, 36:46 instead of seeking help out my discomfort 36:50 made me feel like internalize that I had already failed 36:53 even before I naturally failed. 36:55 And so what I would do instead of felling it 36:57 and seeing myself fail, I would drop out, 37:00 I would, I would quit, 37:01 I would pay all this money 37:02 and I would do it before I would drop the class, 37:04 I would drop the class, drop the class. 37:05 And to the point to where I could feel 37:07 that I was behind in school 37:08 but I didn't even want to log and check it out. 37:11 You know, I didn't want to see how far behind I was. 37:13 So four years turned to six years, 37:14 six years turned to seven years and I'm still like, "Okay, 37:17 this is getting expensive. 37:19 You know, this is an expensive mistake." 37:20 You come home, you come home every year, everybody is like, 37:22 "Hey, Mike, you got a brother. 37:23 He was behind you 37:25 but I think he's graduating this year. 37:26 What are you doing?" 37:28 And I'm just like, 37:29 "I'm going back, that's what I'm doing. 37:30 I'm going back." 37:32 And what my mom always instilled in me, 37:33 she was like, 37:34 "Don't you ever give up, don't you ever stop trying." 37:37 And it meant a lot to me 37:38 because one thing I realized is that individuals are like, 37:42 what are you gonna do go back to school and do?" 37:44 I say, "I'm going back to school and try, you know. 37:45 I'm gonna go back to school and try." 37:47 What happens if I give up after this, 37:49 after this mark, what do I have to show for? 37:51 All I have is that quick, 37:53 if I keep going eventually 37:54 even as crazy as it may look to you, 37:56 eventually I'm gonna find a way to finish 37:58 because I never gave up. 38:00 And that pain which was uncomfortable for me, 38:03 I knew it could be worked toward the ultimate purpose. 38:05 And so the relation that it has to everyone else 38:07 is that no matter 38:09 what walk of life that you come from, 38:10 no matter where you 38:11 are everybody goes through some, 38:13 something that's uncomfortable. 38:15 And if you can take that in everybody in life, 38:18 pain is the one thing that's inevitable. 38:20 We all have to go through that. 38:21 Not everybody can choose to be happy in life but they, 38:24 everybody has to go to pain. 38:26 Even Christ's journey was Pain4purpose, you know. 38:28 And He did it intentionally, 38:30 He accepted pain to go for ultimate purpose 38:34 which is salvation, you know. 38:35 So for me instead of just being knocked over by the pain, 38:40 I heard a quote to say that everybody in life 38:42 is either walking into a storm, 38:45 in the midst of a storm or coming out of one. 38:46 So that's pain, you know. 38:48 Storm is pain 38:49 and if we can start to brace ourselves 38:51 for the pain that will come 38:53 and get excited about the process 38:55 that it can transform us into that we can use 38:57 that pain ultimately for a purpose. 38:59 So there is a purpose in all pain. 39:00 There is always a purpose for pain. 39:02 And once you get out of it 39:03 is how you address it and redress it. 39:06 You know I tell people and I want to come back to you, 39:08 Jeff and Taylor in just a moment. 39:09 You know, people are impressive people 39:11 with doctor's degrees. 39:13 You don't really have to be that smart to get a PhD, 39:16 you do have to be focus, you just got to stay with it, 39:18 if you give enough money 39:20 to stay with long enough, they will give you a degree, 39:21 'cause they don't want people in queue, 39:23 you know, they want you through the system 39:25 'cause we've got all these doctors too, 39:26 we can't graduate with them, some wrong with that. 39:28 So if you just stick with it, give enough cash, 39:30 they'll give you your degrees. 39:32 So you don't have to be a genius 39:33 but you do have to be focused. 39:35 And stay with it and I think 39:37 that is a recipe for success in life. 39:40 You don't necessarily have to be a genius 39:42 but you do have to be focused, 39:44 you got to kind of see your goal, 39:45 see your purpose. 39:47 Stay focus on your purpose and you get what you want. 39:49 Tell me about these conferences that you have. 39:52 Are they in, and thank you, Michael before that. 39:54 Absolutely. 39:55 Are they in cooperation with ASI 39:58 'cause I know you're recognized by ASI? 40:00 Do you have it around ASI, 40:01 it's time you walk me through that? 40:03 Well, we really support appreciate the work 40:05 that they've done 40:06 to rally together Adventist business leaders. 40:09 You know, ever since EA Sutherland 40:10 bringing this together. 40:11 And so we want to continue to provide support to that 40:15 and them to us as well. 40:16 So, yeah, 40:18 we're working in conjunction with them for this year. 40:20 And we're excited about being able to grow 40:23 and expand this thing all over the world. 40:27 You brought a couple trophies with you. 40:31 And forgive me, gentlemen, 40:32 for referring you to as trophies. 40:36 Said not need it. Thank you. 40:37 Just polish the trophy. Oh, yeah. 40:41 Embrace your trophies. 40:45 Tell me the kind of response 40:46 you're getting across the board? 40:47 Well, I mean since the first one, 40:49 we had no idea what to expect 40:50 because this is the first of its kind, 40:52 it never happened within the Adventist context, 40:53 at least from the start up perspective. 40:55 And it exceeded our expectations, 40:57 we didn't know what was gonna happen 40:59 but from the speakers 41:00 who were there, to the attendees, 41:01 to the people who were part of it. 41:03 Yeah, it was really exciting, we had the universities around, 41:05 we did some follow up one days at Andrews, 41:09 we did one at Pacific Union College. 41:11 And we have some coming up at other universities 41:13 that people just want to see this thing happen all over. 41:17 And then we have guys in Ghana, India, 41:20 Australia all over the world 41:21 who want to see this thing continue to grow 41:22 because it doesn't matter who you are, 41:24 what your background is, 41:25 where you're from, your religion, 41:28 you can be a problem solver, you can be an entrepreneur. 41:31 And we want to rally together to help people 41:34 make those great ideas a reality. 41:35 You know, when I see Seth and Mike, 41:38 you know, you might see SWAYY hammocks, 41:39 you might see Pain4purpose 41:41 but these are the people behind the products, 41:43 even you think of this chair in front of me 41:45 like there's a person 41:46 behind making this chair a reality. 41:48 When you think of 3ABN, 41:50 there's a person behind that and what we want to do 41:52 is continue to support the people 41:53 who are making those products 41:55 and making the change in the world a reality. 41:58 So we're excited to continue to grow the network to expand, 42:03 to bring everybody into this thing. 42:04 It's an inclusive conversation from the whole specter 42:08 of those who are curious about entrepreneurship, 42:09 those are that on the thick of it, 42:11 and those who what we say "you made it." 42:12 Yeah. Yeah. 42:14 But everybody can be a part of that conversation. 42:15 That's what we're excited about. 42:17 Two things come to mind to question you on. 42:20 Are your meetings held in conjunction 42:21 with ASI meetings? 42:23 Are they separate? 42:24 Are they at a given time during the year? 42:26 I'm a person sitting at home watching, 42:29 I've got some ideas in my mind, 42:32 how do I connect 42:33 and when would I have an opportunity to do 42:36 what Seth and Michael have been doing? 42:37 Yeah, well, the best way to do it 42:38 is to go to our website FruitionLab.org 42:41 and give us your information and we'll keep you in the loop 42:44 as to the events that are going on. 42:46 Yes, we're doing this one with ASI this year 42:47 but we're going even beyond ASI 42:51 with our current vision 42:52 for where we want to see Fruition go. 42:54 Excellent. Excellent. 42:55 Now you did mention you're doing 42:56 the college campus circuit? 42:58 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is fabulous. 43:01 And one of the things we found is that students 43:04 that are at school, 43:05 very few people are like Seth 43:07 who are in the midst of school and able to create a product 43:09 while they're in school very few, handful. 43:13 There, you know, most students that are in school, 43:14 they're in the thick of it. 43:16 They have classes, five or six classes. 43:18 They're stacking up with student debt. 43:19 I call them the new zombies. 43:21 They're in the zombie mode 43:22 from with the freshmen year until whenever they graduate. 43:24 Yeah. That's true. Yeah, we expect, yeah. 43:26 But we found that the most receptive 43:28 are actually high school and academy students, 43:31 they're the most creative, 43:32 they're the most in tune with the market, 43:34 and they have the least amount to lose. 43:35 That's true. 43:36 And so we've done some stuff at academies and high schools, 43:39 and just getting students fired up there. 43:40 They're ready to do it there. 43:42 So they're getting in at that age? 43:43 And so get it before them, give them exposure to it, 43:44 the marketing, the business strategy, 43:46 the team-building opportunities, 43:48 get it early on and then afterwards 43:50 those that graduated with a degree 43:51 like, "Man, this wasn't what 43:53 I was thinking it was gonna be." 43:54 And have an idea that they want to start. 43:57 And I mean, it's the whole gamut, 43:58 but it's kind of where we're currently at with it. 44:01 Seth, actually what your undergrad degree was? 44:03 So I did my associates in construction management, 44:05 and my bachelor's in business management entrepreneurship. 44:08 And I did the sap program. Oh, okay. 44:10 Which is, yeah, 44:11 has written the school evangelism. 44:13 So the time in the Philippines was submission of time 44:14 that you took off. 44:16 Yeah, that was I did three, 44:18 I took 12 credit hours while I was over 44:19 there to keep my loans in check. 44:22 Oh, yeah. But yeah. Let me tell you. 44:25 He's the thinking guy, you know, you know. 44:28 So yeah, then that was my, 44:32 that would've been my junior year 44:33 so it was two years at Southern, one year overseas, 44:36 and then three years back and now I'm done. 44:39 Now you are. 44:40 Where is your product actually made? 44:43 So I'm making it with myself and Steven Webb 44:46 who is our manufacturing specialist 44:49 and design specialist. 44:51 So we're being made in the United States right now. 44:53 We're working with plans 44:54 to have them made overseas as well. 44:56 I have a Chinese investor 44:58 who's giving me plans to do that, 44:59 we're in the middle 45:00 of international patent process. 45:03 So we'll see where the Lord leads, 45:05 I mean, the scope of ideas goes even wider than that, 45:08 I have contacts that are in Malawi right now 45:10 who are looking at the market to see 45:11 what kind of products 45:13 that we could possibly make there for a trade school. 45:15 I forget the name of the specific trade school, 45:18 but they want to open up a stunning establishment. 45:20 And it would be a great way if they could make some 45:22 just more basic forms of hammocks as a way 45:25 to help the students pay for their schooling 45:28 and also people eat that up 45:30 and you bring it back to the States 45:32 because you're helping somebody else. 45:34 So we have connections there and all over. 45:36 Yeah, Michael, coming to you as a motivational speaker, 45:39 our most folk buying 45:40 into the understanding that pain 45:43 may not be something to be shunned 45:45 but something to use as a foundation 45:46 for your own growth 45:48 and your own self sort of actualization? 45:50 I would say yes, 45:51 but also it needs to be reminded daily. 45:55 You know, like, Les Brown said, he's like, he recommends, 45:58 he recommends showering daily. 46:00 You know, it definitely cleans you 46:02 but you don't get clean one time for everything. 46:04 Right. Yeah. 46:06 Yes, it's the same process and actually the humbling think 46:08 about it is that I use the same thing with myself. 46:10 Pain4purpose was actually intended for me. 46:13 From my life to help me push through difficulties 46:15 that I was having and realized 46:17 that in encouraging myself publicly 46:20 and being vulnerable and transparent 46:22 that it was encouraging someone else. 46:24 So in doing that I just keep speaking to myself 46:27 and I'm like, every day, Mike, you got this and God got you. 46:31 So in the process of doing that, 46:33 someone else is blessed by that. 46:34 And I'm like, God, 46:36 you're awesome 46:37 because this wasn't even for them, 46:38 so the fact that they're excited about this. 46:41 I'm just excited for me to have a chance. 46:43 It been closer to my purpose 46:46 and for somebody else to get something from that, 46:48 it reminds me that God's plan is perfect so. 46:52 Yeah. Powerful, powerful, powerful. 46:55 I'm just very impressed 46:56 that somebody is taking this on. 46:59 As if we were to align you up with ASI, 47:02 the difference between what ASI does 47:04 because ASI is an association, 47:06 a group of people 47:08 who ascribe to a certain way of prosecuting their business, 47:13 their marketplace? 47:14 What is the basic difference 47:15 between what you're seeking to do 47:17 and a more established group like ASI? 47:19 Yeah, we see ASI 47:20 is like you said established business leaders 47:23 that are looking to number one, 47:25 be a Christ in the marketplace, 47:27 show Christ in the marketplace 47:29 with where they're currently working 47:30 and to pour back into ministries and nonprofits 47:34 that are being supported all around the world. 47:37 With Fruition, we see Fruition 47:39 as pouring into the start-up community entrepreneurs 47:43 for-profit, nonprofit, product, 47:44 it doesn't matter 47:46 who you are in the entrepreneurial journey 47:48 that's our specific contribution 47:51 that we feel like that differentiates us 47:53 but we also find there's a lot of room 47:55 for collaboration as well in support. 47:58 To the person that's out there 48:00 who is thinking turning things over their mind, 48:01 but they're just, they're paralyzed, 48:04 they've got this, you know, by fear. 48:06 What is the biggest myth dare I say 48:12 about starting up a business 48:15 that you'd like to bust just now 48:16 as far as difficulty or even getting 48:18 your feet on the ground? 48:20 The biggest myth that I think is that conjunction I can't. 48:24 I think a lot of people, 48:25 you know, they see too many obstacles, 48:27 and they don't think it's possible 48:29 to make their idea a reality. 48:30 And I think that's the greatest myth. 48:32 I think, it's easier now 48:34 to make your idea reality than it's ever been. 48:36 Get access to resources, to people. 48:38 YouTube videos teaching you how to do stuff for free. 48:41 Education isn't an obstacle anymore. 48:44 Access to finances with Kickstarter 48:46 being able to fundraise your business 48:48 to get to where you want to be, and do what you want to do, 48:50 and live the dream that God has put on your heart. 48:52 It's easier to do now that it's ever been. 48:54 But that word I can't is anathema like, 48:57 if you believe that you won't. 49:00 But I think, you know, 49:03 but being around a group of people 49:04 who are dreamers, doers, believers, activators, 49:08 impactors is something 49:09 that helps you see something in yourself 49:12 that you don't currently see. 49:14 And it helps you push the ball forward. 49:16 So yeah, I don't believe that lie that you can't do. 49:21 You might fail along the way but fail forward. 49:24 Yeah. And learn through the process. 49:26 And I mean, only successful... 49:28 Hey, Jeff. Yeah. 49:30 I want to piggyback on what you just said and I know, 49:32 I'm just a trophy but I do want to. 49:37 I do want to piggyback on what you said 49:39 because one of the biggest myths 49:40 that I found even with speaking on the way down here 49:43 is that it takes one person. 49:45 You know that you can do this alone. 49:46 And one of the reasons 49:48 why it's taken a lot of individuals 49:49 a long time to start off and even me, 49:51 personally I feel like I haven't got us moving, is be, 49:54 got moving us quickly is I felt like I should have initially 49:58 is because I looked at people that I admired, 50:00 and I thought 50:01 that they were doing it by themselves. 50:03 And so I always thought to myself was like 50:05 I can't do all this by myself. 50:06 And I was overwhelmingly continue to give up 50:09 or put it aside, 50:10 thinking that I was, it was just me. 50:12 You know, and it wasn't until speaking 50:15 with Jeff a few times. 50:16 And I realized 50:18 that it's never just you 50:20 and anyone in and matter of fact any, 50:22 any well, 50:23 any intelligent married man will let you know that. 50:26 Oh, yeah. 50:27 Who's approached that, it's not, it's not just me. 50:29 You know, what I'm saying, 50:31 a lot of things behind you 50:32 what they say a great man has an even greater woman, 50:34 you know what I'm saying, a better woman. 50:35 But even with the business, 50:36 you have, I was just telling one of the ladies in the back. 50:40 I was like, 50:41 I found that some of the most remarkable people 50:43 that I've ever met. 50:45 No matter how much applause I get 50:47 or how much a celebration people 50:48 give me for things 50:50 that I may say in front of the camera. 50:51 Most incredible people I've ever met are people 50:53 that never step in front of the camera. 50:54 They're most talented people, 50:56 most beautifully minded individuals 50:58 are outside of that. 51:00 And it's the collaboration 51:01 of individuals putting together an idea 51:03 and we may be the face of it. 51:04 But it's so many different individuals. 51:06 So if somebody out there that wants to brew something 51:07 or put something in into Fruition, 51:10 you need a group of individuals 51:13 to help that as well, it is never just one. 51:14 Well said. Well said. 51:15 Taylor, I wanna come to you. Let me ask you a question. 51:17 Which is the better teacher, success or failure? 51:21 Failure probably, 51:22 but success is more fun to have. 51:25 I would say... 51:26 Yeah. 51:28 You know going back to kind of the accountant 51:29 before is that 51:31 the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago and today. 51:35 So you know, 51:36 ideally you would have started something 51:38 20 years ago, 51:39 but don't be afraid of that, start it today, you know. 51:40 Yeah. 51:42 Yeah, and not afraid of failure. 51:44 Again a marvelous ministry 51:46 one that deserves your prayers and support. 51:49 We want to go to our address roll, 51:51 should you want to make contact with Fruition 51:55 and hear what they have to say, 51:57 maybe invite them or to learn from them. 52:01 Here is how you can do precisely that. 52:07 If you're a Christian entrepreneur 52:09 who longs to hear 52:10 from other experienced entrepreneurs, 52:12 then Fruition Lab is for you. 52:15 To find out more visit their website FruitionLab.org. 52:20 There you will find excellent articles, 52:22 amazing video clips of some of their speakers, 52:25 and more information about their next global conference. 52:29 That website again is FruitionLab.org. 52:33 You may also write to them at 111 East Winter Park Street, 52:38 Orlando, Florida 32804. |
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