I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray,
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and allow me once again
to thank you for sharing
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just a little of your
no doubt busy day with us.
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To thank you for
your love, your prayers,
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your support of Three
Angels Broadcasting Network
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because we
realize we could not do
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what we're called to
do without you support,
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without your prayers,
and without your partnership.
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So when we say that,
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it's not just something
that comes from our mouth,
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it comes from our hearts.
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We do thank you
for partnering with us.
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I'm excited today
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because I'm in the presence
of four pretty cool guys.
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And I'm also a
little overdressed.
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But these are
really, really neat guys.
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And the ministry we're
gonna talk about today,
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and it is a ministry is
something that is unique.
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I would say it
is a niche ministry.
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It is something
whose time has come.
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It is something
that can be a benefit
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to the persons involved,
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and to the community at
large, and to the church,
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and to the cause of Christ.
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So we've got a
really, really good program.
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I want you to draw
close and listen good,
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because you're gonna
hear some stuff today
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that may help you,
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and that may dare I say affect
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the rest of your
life here on earth
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and help towards
the coming of the Lord
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and Savior Jesus Christ.
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This is really neat stuff.
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I am a wash entitles here,
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I got CEOs to the
left and CEOs to the right.
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We got founders.
We got ministries.
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Let's start with Jeff Tatarchuk.
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Jeff, good to
have you here, man.
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It is pleasure.
Thank you for having me.
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Jeff is the
co-founder of Fruition Lab,
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even the name is cool.
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And we're gonna talk
about that what that is,
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what it seeks to
do, what it is doing,
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and what the Lord
is blessing it to do.
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Close on his heels,
co-founder Taylor Paris.
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Taylor, good to
have you here, man.
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Thank you.
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He is the
co-founder of Fruition Lab.
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Then we've got some
mentees. Can I say mentees?
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If you guys are the mentors,
then these are the mentees.
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This looking
like little kid here
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is not a little kid.
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This is Seth Hill.
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Seth is the founder and CEO,
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that young kid and the title CEO
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of SWAYY, S.W.A.Y.Y.
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We need to find out
what SWAYY is all about.
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And last but not
least, Mr. Michael Moss,
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founder of Pain4Purpose.
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Absolutely.
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And we got to know
what that's all about?
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It's coming soon.
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You'll find these
guys are pretty sharp too.
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I found it about
all four of them.
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They're pretty sharp.
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They are not
slack in any good thing.
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And I really want
you to pay attention
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to this particular program
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because we're gonna
talk about entrepreneurship.
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And they're part in this.
This is really good stuff.
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But I want to get some
before we go to our music,
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I want to get some
history on all of you.
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Jeff, where are you from?
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Originally from San
Bernardino, California.
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Grow up in
Adventist home? I did.
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Good Christian
home, great parents.
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Now you're beginning.
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When you started it out,
it was to go into ministry.
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And you actually did
evangelism for a while.
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Yep.
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I was a convert
evangelist for many years,
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went to Amazing Facts
back in 2004, did Bible work,
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and yeah, decided I
wanted to use enterprise
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as my means of
reaching the world.
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And got as far as the
seminary and the Lord said,
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I got something
else for you to do
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which is in its
own way ministry,
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just didn't
want you in a pulpit.
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That's right.
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Yeah, got
something else to do. Yeah.
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Meanwhile you
picked up a friend.
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Taylor, you guys
met undergrad, correct?
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Yeah, we met at
a Southern. Yeah.
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I keep saying this
guy's got my voice, you know.
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I should pray for that
voice. I wanted that voice.
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Give me that
voice. Love that voice.
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Where are you from, Taylor?
I live in Orlando, Florida.
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Born in Orlando?
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No, I grew up in
Tennessee in Nashville area.
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Adventist home? Yes, yeah.
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Brothers and sisters?
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Yeah, one brother and one sister
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right in the middle.
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Okay, you went to Southern,
you didn't go too far a field.
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You kind of stayed,
kind of close to home,
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yeah, yeah, praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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Seth. Yes, sir.
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Where are you from?
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I'm from Chattanooga, Tennessee,
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grown up in
Asheville, North Carolina.
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That's what I hear. Okay.
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That Asheville
North Carolina thing
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is kind of slipping out on you.
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Did you go to Southern also?
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I did actually just
graduate not a long ago.
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Okay, now I feel better. Yeah.
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Okay, I thought that this guy
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is drinking or eating something,
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really he must be a
vegetarian or something
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because he's
looking really young.
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That's right.
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But you just got out of school,
so that's quite all right,
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Adventist home? Yes, I did.
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And Michael Moss,
where are you from?
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Well, I'm about staying guy,
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I heard the West
Coast in the south
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represented very heavily
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from the great
city of Kansas City,
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Missouri in the
Midwest so we balanced...
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All right, about six hours east
to here, west of here rather,
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yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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Adventist home growing up?
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Actually I just
trusted you. I apologize.
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I don't know if
it's east or west
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but I know, Kansas City
in the middle of the map.
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Okay.
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Trust me on
this one. Absolutely.
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I know we're close. Yeah.
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I need to ask all of you,
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good looking
intelligent smart guys.
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And I'll start with you Jeff,
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when did the whole Jesus
one on one relation do you think
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'cause you could be
born into an Adventist home,
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doesn't make an Adventist,
doesn't make you a Christian.
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Right.
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When did that occur to you
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as far as one on one
relationship is concerned?
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Yeah, I actually went to a...
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I was raised in Loma
Linda around Adventism
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and I had rejected it.
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And I became an
atheist as a matter of fact.
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And my parents during
about the eighth grade
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send me off to a
school called the Advent home,
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a group home.
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I know.
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A faith based group home
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that really transformed my life.
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And somebody had
asked me a question
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to come to a Bible study.
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And I was able to, I said,
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"No, I don't actually
believe in the Bible."
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And he asked, he said,
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"Why don't you
believe in the Bible?"
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And I remember
thinking to myself,
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I don't really know why I
don't believe in the Bible.
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But it was that seed of
doubt that caused me to,
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you know, go into the word
and learn more about Jesus.
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I read a book by Max
Lucado called He Chose Nails
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that rocked my world about
the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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Yes.
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And broke my heart, man,
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and ever since then
I just want to share
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the hope of
Jesus with the world.
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Praise the Lord.
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Advent home, I know that
ministry very, very well.
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They've been here
some time in the past.
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Yeah. That's like boot camp.
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Yes, it is. Yes, it
is. Adventist boot camp.
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But it changed my
life, man. Yeah, yeah.
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Taylor, same question for you?
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Yeah, so I grew up in
a good Christian home,
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Adventist home
and amazing family.
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But for me it
wasn't a real experience
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until high school.
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So I knew the stories,
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I knew all of the
different lessons and values
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but didn't become real
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until I started
seeing it in action.
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So doing evangelism
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actually is what
brought it to life for me,
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so going out and doing
Bible studies with people,
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going door to door
selling books, Christian books.
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Oh, okay.
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And it started to come alive
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where you saw the
gospel not only in my life
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but in the lives of the people
that we're reaching out to.
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And that's where it
really started to hit.
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And it went from a fairy
tale to a personal history
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that now impacting,
still impacting me so.
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Praise the Lord.
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Seth, from
Asheville, North Carolina,
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Adventist home?
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Yeah, Adventist home.
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From young age, thought
my life was pretty normal
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until about the age of 16.
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And then tragedy
struck my family,
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my father took his life.
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And I just didn't
know where to turn.
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So I started going to school
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at Southern
Adventist University,
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this is number
years after that happened.
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It was actually in
2008 and by this time
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I was just really questioning,
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you know, okay,
I believe in God,
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I know He's there
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but what part does He
have to play in my life?
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So I started to dabble
into all kinds of things.
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I did some drugs,
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I did some of
the witchcraft stuff,
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nothing too deep and dark
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but even when you
touch this kind of things,
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it tends to mar your
character to a great extent.
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So long story short
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after a number of
years at Southern,
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I decided that
God wanted me to go
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be a student missionary
through some miraculous events.
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So I went overseas to live
in the Philippines for a year
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and in living there
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I found out
something very important,
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you can't run from your sins,
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let alone your addictions
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'cause they followed me
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6,000 plus
miles across the world
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and I realized well, I
really have no where to go.
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And I found myself
in some pretty dark
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and disgusting situations
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with just
feeding on my addictions
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and in hiding to such a point
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to where I took
a step back one day
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and looked at
myself and realized.
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If I keep doing
this, I'm gonna die,
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like it's killing me
every way that I know.
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So after spending more
time in the Philippines,
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I got on my knees
and I prayed "Lord,
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if you want to change my
life, I give it to you now.
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I can't change
anything but I need you."
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So that kind of put
forward the first steps
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to God really
becoming my own personal Savior
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after talking with Him,
you know, actually getting to.
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Get on my knees and pray
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and feel like I was
having a conversation
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rather than just
rattling off a list of God,
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here's your to do
list for the next month.
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Yeah. So yeah.
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Well said.
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You look at the first
good looking young guy
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never know what was
behind all that stuff.
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Glad you are where you are man.
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We'll be gonna talking
talk about in a little bit.
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Michael, give me
some history man.
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When did this thing
become real for you?
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Oh, well, first of, wow,
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that's awesome, Seth.
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Thanks for allowing
me to go behind that.
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It's not a contest.
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It's not a contest at all,
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but honestly
Adventism in my Christian walk,
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I feel like it's always been,
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it's always been
real from just acknowledge
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and just how hard
I've seen my parents go,
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they weren't born
into the Adventist faith.
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So their convictions are that
they're very strong about it,
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seeing different
preachers or pastors
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that I grew up and
understand their relationship,
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I was very impressed in.
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But it didn't
become personal for me
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until probably about 2009.
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I think when I first
actually started learning,
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maybe a little bit earlier than
that when I started learning
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about the sanctuary message.
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We were talking about
this on the right over here.
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And when you just get
into the details of seeing
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how specific the guy
was in terms of everything
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he wanted to go through
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in order to
sacrifice his life for me.
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It wasn't just
even just a sacrifice
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which was enough.
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It was a fact everything
was planned out to a tee
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to do it for somebody,
someone deserving as myself.
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A lot of things that
I feel like I compromise
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or want to argue whether
or not it's worth given up
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or if I should hold on to.
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It's just not
worth it at that point.
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Once you realize how
much someone means to you
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or you mean to someone,
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you want to go ahead
and reciprocate that.
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So for me, it
became real at that point.
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And then I was like, if
God had given this up of me,
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just living for you
really makes you happy then.
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You know what, is you worth it.
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You know saying not whether
it's worth it but you are,
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you know, so
I'll drop the things
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that seem to appear
to be meaningful here
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if it's in comparison to you.
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And so I think that's
when it became real for myself
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and ever since then,
I'm excited about it.
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Good, good. Well said.
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Everybody's got
to ask the question
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and answer the
question at some point
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in the Christian walk, how
much is Christ worth to me.
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He's answered a question,
you are worth His life.
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Now you got to reciprocate
how much He's worth to me?
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And once you
answer that question,
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you're free to advance.
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But as long as you
put that answer off,
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you never will grow.
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You got to ask
if He's worth all,
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then you give Him all.
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Now before we go to our music,
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I got to find out who's married?
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I know, Jeff you are.
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Taylor, no. No.
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Seth, no. Yeah, I'm married.
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Oh, you're married. I'm married.
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That's ridiculous.
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It's only been a month and half.
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Oh, okay, newly married guy.
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Oh, friends. And Michael, no.
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Absolutely no.
So two yes, two nos.
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We got two guys,
where's my camera.
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We got two guys
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that we need to get married off.
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These are entrepreneurial guys
and they are spiritual guys.
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I like these guys.
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So we'll give you
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some contact
information a little bit later.
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But praise the Lord.
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I'm having a little fun too
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because I like
what you're doing,
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you know, you're,
this is a good ministry,
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we're gonna get into this.
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Want to go to
our music just now,
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then we're gonna
really mine this ministry
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and talk about
some of the things
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that are happening.
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Our music is coming
from the Burchfield Brothers.
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This is Jon and Benji,
two consummate musicians.
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And they're gonna be playing
"There is a Quiet Place".
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Well done, the
Burchfield Brothers.
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I am in the
company of Jeff Tatarchuk.
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Nailed it. Praise the Lord.
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Taylor Paris, fairly
easy. Seth Hill, real easy.
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Michael Moss, very easy. Okay.
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Once you get past
Tatarchuk, it's like a roller...
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Let's talk about this
because you guys met undergrad
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and then I'll come to Seth
and Mike a little bit later.
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But Fruition,
where the name come from
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and what do you seek to do,
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let's kind of,
let's lay it out there.
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Well, Fruition was born
out of a desire to help.
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You know, I took
theology in undergrad.
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And but even
while we were undergrad
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we were starting
little businesses,
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we had started a
couple of ministries
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while we were there.
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And I like the idea of
making ideas a reality.
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And so that stayed
with me all the way through
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and I got to the seminary
and I started a thrift shop,
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you know, there was
one thrift shop in town,
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it was only
open two days a week,
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I said, I'm gonna open one
that's gonna open five days
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and see what
happens. And did that,
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I had a seminary friend
of mine come to me and ask,
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"Hey, can you help
me start a business,
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I want to start
a wedding company."
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I said, "Sure."
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And within a few hours we
had his business up online
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and by the end of the
week he was getting calls
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and by the end of the month,
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he was getting
deposits for his business
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before he had any equipment,
before he had anything.
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And he said, "Man, I'd
love to give you a percentage
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of the profits of my business
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'cause you helped me
get over that first hurdle."
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And I said, "Listen,
I know how hard it is
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to start a business.
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You keep your money
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and I will find more
joy in seeing you succeed
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than any money you can give me."
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And I remember
thinking of myself going back,
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you know, living on a,
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you know, a
seminary stipend at the time,
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thinking to myself like,
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"Man, I just gave up
on some potential money,
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I don't know if
he's gonna succeed or not
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but I gave up, why did I do it."
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And the word fruition is
the word that came to mind.
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When I googled it,
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happened to have my
laptop in front of me
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and the first thing means
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to bring something to completion
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but the secondary term
mean the sense of enjoyment.
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And, you know, you press more
on the bottom and it expanded,
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and it went into,
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the Latin of the word
literally means to enjoy.
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And so I think there is a beauty
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in the process
of seeing a thought,
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immaterial thought
become a sustainable reality.
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And I think that's something
that God wants all of us
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to experience is to experience
thoughts becoming a reality.
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And so I found joy in
helping walking people
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through that process.
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And so, I said, "Hey, I know
there's other people out there
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that have great ideas,
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let's grab all of the
other entrepreneurs together
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that I could think of
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and let's make
great things happen."
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And so that's kind of how
Fruition Lab came together.
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Taylor and I had worked
on some stuff in undergrad.
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And we said, "Man,
let's rally the troops."
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Now tell were you at
Andrews at the time or you just,
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this is kind of like a
phone, email kind of thing.
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Yeah, just phone, email.
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And I was in Orlando, Florida.
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So we decided,
you know something
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we wanted to connect
on, so we started doing it.
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Now what were you
doing once you left school?
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So once I left, I
spent some time in Ethiopia
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at a hospital there
working and then I came back
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and worked in
health care finance
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in Florida for a
Florida hospital.
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Florida hospital, yeah.
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Your undergrad
degree is in? Accounting.
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In accounting.
Good guy to have around.
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So obviously you were
so invested in this thought
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that you left your track
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as far as pulpit
evangelism is concerned
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and really
devoted your full time...
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Well, I stayed in seminary,
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I stayed in
seminary with the hope that,
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hey, let's re-stoke the
flame of entrepreneurship
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again in this church.
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You know, I feel like God
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being the very
first entrepreneur
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who took the thought of,
00:19:18.92\00:19:20.26
you know, you
know taking the world
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that was without form and void
and bringing form out of chaos,
00:19:21.66\00:19:25.39
which is what an
entrepreneur does,
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they see a problem
00:19:26.80\00:19:28.13
and they bring
something out of it,
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bring something good out
of it, which is what God did.
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And then he had another thought,
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He said, "Man, I want
to make man in our image."
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And He took that thought,
00:19:34.77\00:19:36.10
literally came down
and took the resources
00:19:36.14\00:19:37.57
that He already had created
and spoke into existence,
00:19:37.61\00:19:39.97
He took those resources
that he had at his disposal,
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fashion man
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and then breathed
His life into that thing
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which is the definition
of an entrepreneur, man.
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And yes not only
did He give that ability
00:19:48.68\00:19:52.75
but not only did He create
00:19:52.79\00:19:54.12
but He created us
with the ability to create.
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Yeah.
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And that's something
that I wanted to continue
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to re-inspire.
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So I stayed in seminary.
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You know, I consider myself
an entrepreneurial evangelist
00:20:02.10\00:20:03.73
like I would
always be an evangelist.
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I will always be an evangelist
but through enterprise I found,
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I was able to
make a greater impact
00:20:09.94\00:20:11.27
outside the walls
of the four church.
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Praise the Lord.
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First of all I
think that's a unique way
00:20:15.21\00:20:16.95
to look at it,
00:20:16.98\00:20:18.31
but also that you invest so much
00:20:18.35\00:20:19.95
in because
ministry is where you find,
00:20:19.98\00:20:21.78
there's pulpit ministry
00:20:21.82\00:20:23.15
but there's many
other ways to minister.
00:20:23.18\00:20:25.32
And when you have a
business as is the motto of ASI,
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it does give you a
platform from which to minister,
00:20:30.39\00:20:33.56
you know.
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So if we were to say in
a word Fruition Ministries
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is a ministry that mentors...
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Yeah, connects,
educates and inspires,
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impact driven entrepreneurs.
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Entrepreneurs, okay.
00:20:46.71\00:20:48.04
So you're looking
to help young people
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that have an idea
00:20:51.08\00:20:54.15
and want to put some
legs on that an idea, see,
00:20:54.18\00:20:55.78
and get up, and walk.
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That's right. Okay.
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Now you've tested this out,
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you field tested
this because you went to
00:20:59.92\00:21:02.22
and I've been
to Berrien Springs,
00:21:02.26\00:21:03.59
I've been to Berrien Springs,
00:21:03.63\00:21:04.96
it's not that much there
besides Apple Valley market
00:21:04.99\00:21:07.80
and Andrews University.
00:21:07.83\00:21:09.40
So you started a thrift
store, something needed,
00:21:09.43\00:21:14.70
was it a success?
00:21:14.74\00:21:16.07
It was.
00:21:16.10\00:21:17.44
But my business
partner had a brain aneurism
00:21:17.47\00:21:18.81
about a year or two,
00:21:18.84\00:21:20.18
we weren't able to keep it open.
00:21:20.21\00:21:21.54
Shut down, I
felt like a failure.
00:21:21.58\00:21:22.91
Gave a lot of weight,
needed to do something
00:21:22.94\00:21:24.85
and my friend
introduced me to the burpee
00:21:24.88\00:21:27.42
which is the fitness term
00:21:27.45\00:21:28.78
for falling down and
getting back up again.
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And so we were...
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Come on, Jeff.
00:21:32.45\00:21:34.52
You let us speak that thing.
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So we were able to literally
take this fitness opportunity
00:21:35.92\00:21:40.56
and turn our thrift store
00:21:40.60\00:21:41.93
which I still had a
lease for the next two years,
00:21:41.96\00:21:43.97
from a thrift store
00:21:44.00\00:21:45.33
into what was
then a crossway gym
00:21:45.37\00:21:47.04
which we've been
able to grow and expand.
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Same facility? Same facility.
00:21:48.94\00:21:50.27
Just changed
it? Just changed it.
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Really the pivot, man.
00:21:51.67\00:21:53.01
It's been
impacting the community,
00:21:53.04\00:21:54.38
there's no gym
within 10 miles of the area,
00:21:54.41\00:21:56.01
other than what's
at the school itself.
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And we were, we were sustainable
00:21:58.11\00:21:59.45
the very first day we opened
which rocks my world, man,
00:21:59.48\00:22:02.32
it was exciting to
see and be a part of that.
00:22:02.35\00:22:03.82
Yeah.
00:22:03.85\00:22:05.19
You know, the idea
00:22:05.22\00:22:06.55
and when we were
talking off camera,
00:22:06.59\00:22:08.52
the same thing you see
a niche and you feel it,
00:22:08.56\00:22:12.09
and there is certainly
the foundation for success.
00:22:12.13\00:22:16.70
You've got a community
of health conscious people,
00:22:16.73\00:22:18.83
you know, when you say
Adventist you think health,
00:22:18.87\00:22:20.97
people running on the street
doing all the kind of things,
00:22:21.00\00:22:22.34
no gym.
00:22:22.37\00:22:23.71
That's right.
00:22:23.74\00:22:25.07
Could there be a
better fit for that community,
00:22:25.11\00:22:26.44
for any Adventist
community than a gym,
00:22:26.47\00:22:28.01
so you fulfilled that need.
00:22:28.04\00:22:29.38
And there's not a lot to do
00:22:29.41\00:22:30.75
in the winter
in Berrien Springs.
00:22:30.78\00:22:32.25
We needed a warm
place to stay active.
00:22:32.28\00:22:33.62
Precisely.
00:22:33.65\00:22:34.98
So the gym worked out
great. 'Cause winter is winter.
00:22:35.02\00:22:37.85
It ain't going
anywhere, any time.
00:22:37.89\00:22:39.25
No joke, no sir.
00:22:39.29\00:22:40.62
It is...
00:22:40.66\00:22:41.99
So that was successful. Yeah.
00:22:42.02\00:22:43.46
We've been doing it
00:22:43.49\00:22:44.83
for the last
four years and have,
00:22:44.86\00:22:46.66
you know, we were
able to buy our building,
00:22:46.70\00:22:48.26
grow, triple our size.
00:22:48.30\00:22:50.00
And it's been a
huge blessing to myself
00:22:50.03\00:22:53.37
and my wife as well
who joined the team.
00:22:53.40\00:22:55.74
In the meanwhile you sold
that and you're on to something,
00:22:55.77\00:22:58.14
on to the next challenge.
00:22:58.17\00:22:59.51
On to the next one,
man. Bless your heart.
00:22:59.54\00:23:01.21
Now here's what I like,
00:23:01.24\00:23:02.58
and I wanted to
move to Seth and Michael.
00:23:02.61\00:23:08.75
You have this idea now,
00:23:08.78\00:23:10.12
you know, it works
00:23:10.15\00:23:11.49
because you seen it
work in several places
00:23:11.52\00:23:14.09
and worked well
and worked quickly.
00:23:14.12\00:23:16.52
So now you want to
turn this into a ministry
00:23:16.56\00:23:18.36
where you can begin to
mentor other young people
00:23:18.39\00:23:20.80
and stoke their
entrepreneurial fires.
00:23:20.83\00:23:24.27
How do you go from,
00:23:24.30\00:23:25.70
I've seen it work
with my friend group
00:23:25.73\00:23:27.40
around me at Andrews
00:23:27.44\00:23:28.77
to making it more
of a national thing
00:23:28.80\00:23:30.41
and getting guys like
Seth and Michael on board?
00:23:30.44\00:23:32.74
Yeah.
00:23:32.77\00:23:34.11
So you know one
thing that we were really,
00:23:34.14\00:23:36.21
really blessed to do
is we had a conference,
00:23:36.24\00:23:38.85
an annual conference every year.
00:23:38.88\00:23:40.95
So building a network of people
00:23:40.98\00:23:42.88
because it really is
in the network of people
00:23:42.92\00:23:44.72
that are out there
00:23:44.75\00:23:46.09
they can help
each other, you know.
00:23:46.12\00:23:47.56
And one thing that
we're really passionate
00:23:47.59\00:23:49.72
about is what can you
give, not what can you get.
00:23:49.76\00:23:53.03
So there's so many
people that have experiences
00:23:53.06\00:23:55.36
they want to give back.
00:23:55.40\00:23:56.73
And so we're
providing a platform
00:23:56.77\00:23:58.53
for people to do that.
00:23:58.57\00:24:00.44
In addition you know,
00:24:00.47\00:24:01.80
we're working to
develop an online resource
00:24:01.84\00:24:04.51
where people can
go and develop ideas
00:24:04.54\00:24:08.54
and be able to
connect and learn and grow,
00:24:08.58\00:24:11.38
so they can
take their idea from,
00:24:11.41\00:24:13.25
just an idea where
they can actually launch it
00:24:13.28\00:24:16.32
and do something meaningful.
00:24:16.35\00:24:18.95
So you're reaching out
00:24:18.99\00:24:20.32
in training and
mentoring other people
00:24:20.36\00:24:22.02
who want to do that.
00:24:22.06\00:24:23.39
And one of the things we found
00:24:23.43\00:24:24.76
is that an
entrepreneur is a problem solver
00:24:24.79\00:24:26.39
and at any stage of the
entrepreneurial journey,
00:24:26.43\00:24:28.86
it doesn't matter if
you're just starting out,
00:24:28.90\00:24:30.23
you just have an idea
00:24:30.27\00:24:31.60
you're curious
about entrepreneurship
00:24:31.63\00:24:32.97
or you had an acquisition,
00:24:33.00\00:24:34.40
you sold your business
and you're in retirement.
00:24:34.44\00:24:36.27
Everybody is
faced with an obstacle.
00:24:36.30\00:24:38.11
And we at Fruition
want to help people overcome
00:24:38.14\00:24:40.61
those obstacles to
achieve a greater success
00:24:40.64\00:24:44.81
in their life
business and ministry.
00:24:44.85\00:24:46.45
Praise the Lord. Yeah.
00:24:46.48\00:24:47.82
And kind of add to that
00:24:47.85\00:24:49.18
the opportunity is really
on the impact side, you know.
00:24:49.22\00:24:52.69
So we, Jeff's
talking about creativity
00:24:52.72\00:24:54.72
and how God implanted
creativity inside all of us.
00:24:54.76\00:24:57.59
But also you
know we have a desire
00:24:57.63\00:25:00.06
as Christians to give
and be an impact in society.
00:25:00.10\00:25:03.23
You look at
history with Waldenses
00:25:03.26\00:25:05.77
where they said,
00:25:05.80\00:25:07.60
you know, they would
have spurned as missionaries
00:25:07.64\00:25:09.94
but welcomed as merchants.
00:25:09.97\00:25:11.61
And the
opportunity as Christians
00:25:11.64\00:25:14.48
to use enterprise to
impact society is right now
00:25:14.51\00:25:18.38
one of the largest
opportunities available.
00:25:18.41\00:25:21.15
And at the point we're at,
00:25:21.18\00:25:22.82
the opportunity to be
involved in enterprise
00:25:22.85\00:25:25.12
and impact society is a place
00:25:25.15\00:25:27.19
where it hasn't been
before so to be able to do
00:25:27.22\00:25:30.03
that we feel is just
a sublime opportunity.
00:25:30.06\00:25:33.09
Very, very cool.
00:25:33.13\00:25:34.46
Yeah, that's
pretty right brain stuff
00:25:34.50\00:25:35.83
coming from the accountant.
00:25:35.86\00:25:37.20
Well said. I appreciate that.
00:25:37.23\00:25:38.67
Now Seth and Mike, you
actually do get to talk.
00:25:38.70\00:25:42.60
And I want to move to you guys
00:25:42.64\00:25:45.74
because obviously you connected,
00:25:45.77\00:25:48.34
how did you find out
about Fruition, Seth?
00:25:48.38\00:25:51.85
I found out about Fruition
00:25:51.88\00:25:53.21
actually through
one of my kind of side
00:25:53.25\00:25:55.15
contracting jobs
through the Adventist Review.
00:25:55.18\00:25:57.55
I was working and
doing some advertising stuff,
00:25:57.59\00:25:58.92
and Jared Thurman
00:25:58.95\00:26:00.29
who is a big marketing
liaison and the guy there.
00:26:00.32\00:26:04.09
Yeah, he told me about Jeff
00:26:04.13\00:26:06.70
and that they were having
an event for entrepreneurs,
00:26:06.73\00:26:09.83
specifically Adventist
to kind of bring them in,
00:26:09.86\00:26:11.63
so that we
could you know network
00:26:11.67\00:26:13.23
then they can inspire
00:26:13.27\00:26:14.60
so we can learn
how to take our idea
00:26:14.64\00:26:16.34
and make it into something.
00:26:16.37\00:26:17.71
So that's how I heard about it
and I talked to Jeff and Taylor
00:26:17.74\00:26:20.64
and they told me
about a picture at the end
00:26:20.68\00:26:22.01
that they were
going to be having
00:26:22.04\00:26:23.38
where essentially you
bring your business idea
00:26:23.41\00:26:24.98
to some panelists
00:26:25.01\00:26:26.51
and there's
investors on that panel
00:26:26.55\00:26:28.02
and they may or may
not just invest in you.
00:26:28.05\00:26:30.95
Oh, kind of a shark tank. Yeah.
00:26:30.99\00:26:32.45
So it's essentially,
exactly. For better.
00:26:32.49\00:26:36.62
Yeah, for better.
00:26:36.66\00:26:41.20
And again you're mentoring
or you're networking people
00:26:41.23\00:26:45.67
with money with
people with ideas.
00:26:45.70\00:26:47.70
And of course that
confluence, then you've got,
00:26:47.74\00:26:49.94
you've got something to work.
00:26:49.97\00:26:51.31
So that's how you
kind of got started.
00:26:51.34\00:26:52.67
Yeah. Okay.
00:26:52.71\00:26:54.04
And your idea was for SWAYY,
00:26:54.08\00:26:55.48
did you present
SWAYY to them at that time?
00:26:55.51\00:26:57.45
I did. I presented SWAYY.
00:26:57.48\00:26:58.88
So, yeah, we do
insulated hammocks,
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.92
that's what that is.
00:27:00.95\00:27:02.28
Insulated hammocks.
00:27:02.32\00:27:03.65
Fully insulated,
00:27:03.69\00:27:05.02
just like a sleeping
bag between two trees.
00:27:05.05\00:27:06.59
Oh-oh. Whoa.
00:27:06.62\00:27:08.72
Game changer.
00:27:08.76\00:27:10.09
Insulated hammocks. Yeah.
00:27:13.19\00:27:14.53
So it's a fully
insulated hammocks.
00:27:14.56\00:27:15.90
So the idea actually came...
00:27:15.93\00:27:18.73
That's about SWAYY. Yeah.
00:27:18.77\00:27:20.27
It's an action
word, you know, sway.
00:27:20.30\00:27:23.10
So the first, the
actual idea, what is SWAYY?
00:27:23.14\00:27:26.17
So I found out that you
know while going camping
00:27:26.21\00:27:29.54
with a regular hammock,
00:27:29.58\00:27:30.95
thinking outside even
during the summer months
00:27:30.98\00:27:33.15
because of the wind
going underneath you,
00:27:33.18\00:27:36.02
and over top of you,
you have that bridge,
00:27:36.05\00:27:37.65
ices before the road effect
where you get really cold.
00:27:37.69\00:27:40.19
So I had that idea and I
went to the Philippines with it.
00:27:40.22\00:27:42.79
And then after being in
the Philippines for a year
00:27:42.82\00:27:44.56
I had my why,
00:27:44.59\00:27:45.93
and that was my buddy
00:27:45.96\00:27:47.36
and I starting a
nonprofit organization
00:27:47.40\00:27:49.23
for doing work
in the Philippines.
00:27:49.26\00:27:51.23
And then I realized,
okay, now I have a what,
00:27:51.27\00:27:52.87
I have enterprise
and I have the why,
00:27:52.90\00:27:54.30
and then when I
heard about Fruition,
00:27:54.34\00:27:55.67
I was like, oh,
00:27:55.70\00:27:57.04
that's the perfect place to go
00:27:57.07\00:27:58.41
because I can connect
with like minded people.
00:27:58.44\00:28:00.18
They can be
inspired by what I'm doing
00:28:00.21\00:28:01.71
and I can be inspired by
what they're doing there.
00:28:01.74\00:28:04.11
And just kind of the networking
and building it from there.
00:28:04.15\00:28:06.21
Wow.
Interesting. Very, very good.
00:28:06.25\00:28:09.12
So was your idea accepted?
00:28:09.15\00:28:11.42
It was really accepted,
00:28:11.45\00:28:12.79
I got really good encouragement.
00:28:12.82\00:28:14.59
I actually got my first
initial set of preorders,
00:28:14.62\00:28:17.66
Taylor being the number
one person for preorder.
00:28:17.69\00:28:20.86
So that you know that
gave me a lot of confidence
00:28:20.90\00:28:22.63
because it was at that point
00:28:22.66\00:28:24.03
that it wasn't
just the product people
00:28:24.07\00:28:25.73
believed in but I realized
that they believe in the story.
00:28:25.77\00:28:29.17
And that's what I think
00:28:29.20\00:28:30.54
it's so great about Fruition Lab
00:28:30.57\00:28:31.91
is that they bring you to space
00:28:31.94\00:28:33.27
where you're able to
really connect your why
00:28:33.31\00:28:35.24
with your what,
your story with the idea,
00:28:35.28\00:28:37.15
your purpose with
the business plan.
00:28:37.18\00:28:39.31
And then kind of move
it forward from there.
00:28:39.35\00:28:40.68
And that was how long ago?
00:28:40.72\00:28:42.05
Fruition or...
00:28:42.08\00:28:43.65
When you made that
connection with Fruition?
00:28:43.69\00:28:45.55
Yeah, that was
just almost a year ago.
00:28:45.59\00:28:47.92
Okay, so this is happening
in real time kind of rapidly.
00:28:47.96\00:28:49.99
Oh, yeah, yeah,
very busy every day.
00:28:50.03\00:28:52.63
Good deal. Good deal.
00:28:52.66\00:28:54.10
So things are going
good, you're moving forward?
00:28:54.13\00:28:56.30
They are going really well,
00:28:56.33\00:28:57.67
we just completed our
first business acquisition,
00:28:57.70\00:28:59.50
in the middle of it
00:28:59.53\00:29:00.87
I'll finish it tomorrow actually
00:29:00.90\00:29:02.50
with another guy
00:29:02.54\00:29:03.87
who's been in the
industry for a while,
00:29:03.91\00:29:05.24
Steven Webb, awesome guy.
00:29:05.27\00:29:07.68
And yeah, so it's going
well, we've got a preorders,
00:29:07.71\00:29:10.08
we're started
taking more orders,
00:29:10.11\00:29:11.45
we're making our
first batch of 60 hammocks.
00:29:11.48\00:29:14.78
And I'm planning to
keep moving forward.
00:29:14.82\00:29:16.38
They must be proud of you.
00:29:16.42\00:29:17.75
You are sovereign enough to take
00:29:17.79\00:29:19.59
on to yourself a wife so...
00:29:19.62\00:29:22.82
Didn't someone
just order one for you
00:29:22.86\00:29:25.79
and you have found out
that it was sold out from him,
00:29:25.83\00:29:29.40
you encouraged him to grab
one, he was like, oh, brought,
00:29:29.43\00:29:32.30
think it was sold
out, he was like, it is.
00:29:32.33\00:29:34.60
Yeah, I had to check that
out. We found that out together.
00:29:34.64\00:29:36.77
So it's moving a lot
more rapidly then as well.
00:29:36.81\00:29:38.87
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:38.91\00:29:40.41
Coming to you Michael, Jeff,
00:29:40.44\00:29:42.31
it must be fairly satisfying
00:29:42.34\00:29:44.21
and make you feel good
to know that the principles
00:29:44.25\00:29:46.48
that you and Taylor put together
00:29:46.51\00:29:48.18
are actually
beginning to give birth now.
00:29:48.22\00:29:50.52
You're beginning to see a down,
00:29:50.55\00:29:52.09
a downstream to
what you started.
00:29:52.12\00:29:53.46
Absolutely.
00:29:53.49\00:29:54.82
That's why even the thought of,
00:29:54.86\00:29:56.19
you know, we don't
consider them our mentees,
00:29:56.22\00:29:57.96
entrepreneurs we're
all in this thing together.
00:29:57.99\00:30:01.66
There's no process,
00:30:01.70\00:30:03.03
there's nobody
above anybody else,
00:30:03.06\00:30:04.40
but we get each other,
00:30:04.43\00:30:05.77
we know that
there are certain things
00:30:05.80\00:30:07.14
that have to take place
00:30:07.17\00:30:08.50
in order to make
something successful.
00:30:08.54\00:30:09.87
I think being
around like minded people
00:30:09.90\00:30:11.57
gives you the
confidence and the encouragement
00:30:11.61\00:30:13.68
to push through any obstacles
that you're going to face.
00:30:13.71\00:30:15.94
And so, yeah, it's
absolutely rewarding.
00:30:15.98\00:30:18.01
Good deal. Good deal. Good deal.
00:30:18.05\00:30:19.81
Michael,
Pain4purpose? Absolutely.
00:30:19.85\00:30:23.39
First, how did you get
connected with Fruition?
00:30:23.42\00:30:28.26
So starting out with
Fruition, word of mouth,
00:30:28.29\00:30:31.63
family loyalty is big to
me and Taylor is best friends
00:30:31.66\00:30:35.60
with my youngest
brother, Marshall.
00:30:35.63\00:30:38.73
And Marshall spoke his name,
00:30:38.77\00:30:41.14
he's like Taylor's
coming up with something,
00:30:41.17\00:30:43.00
he's really big.
00:30:43.04\00:30:44.37
We need you to put the
word of mouth behind him.
00:30:44.41\00:30:47.88
He knows I'm a
very passionate person.
00:30:47.91\00:30:49.84
He knows if I put something out
00:30:49.88\00:30:53.65
individuals are
gonna want to know
00:30:53.68\00:30:55.02
what I'm talking about.
00:30:55.05\00:30:56.38
I'm very
passionate, I'm very, very...
00:30:56.42\00:31:01.06
What's the word
00:31:01.09\00:31:02.42
when you're energetic
and things of something?
00:31:02.46\00:31:07.03
Okay. How about energetic?
00:31:07.06\00:31:10.17
Okay. Energetic works.
00:31:10.20\00:31:11.63
Okay. All of the above.
00:31:11.67\00:31:15.27
People know if I'm
excited about something,
00:31:15.30\00:31:18.37
it's for a reason.
00:31:18.41\00:31:19.74
So when Marshall
told me about this
00:31:19.77\00:31:21.84
out of loyalty
alone, I was like,
00:31:21.88\00:31:23.58
okay, well,
we'll give it a shot.
00:31:23.61\00:31:24.98
I had no idea what
I was walking into.
00:31:25.01\00:31:27.25
But I felt like it
deserved an opportunity
00:31:27.28\00:31:29.92
simply of the fact
00:31:29.95\00:31:31.29
that it meant something to
someone that I cared about.
00:31:31.32\00:31:33.82
And so as a
result of coming to it
00:31:33.86\00:31:36.39
and this is where
my excitement grows
00:31:36.42\00:31:37.99
is because I'm
walking into this blind
00:31:38.03\00:31:40.00
with no expectations.
00:31:40.03\00:31:41.36
You know, I took
a week off for work
00:31:41.40\00:31:44.37
and I flew out there to
just check it out and see,
00:31:44.40\00:31:47.20
just to let him
know I believe in you
00:31:47.24\00:31:50.34
and I'm here for
you, just to be a part.
00:31:50.37\00:31:52.34
Now what was this,
00:31:52.37\00:31:53.71
where was this,
you say flew out there,
00:31:53.74\00:31:55.08
where did you go?
00:31:55.11\00:31:56.44
I went out to
Arizona, was it Scottsdale?
00:31:56.48\00:31:57.81
Phoenix.
Phoenix. It was Phoenix.
00:31:57.85\00:31:59.18
So we flew out to
Phoenix and I'm telling you,
00:31:59.21\00:32:03.42
I went out there
expecting to be a blessing
00:32:03.45\00:32:06.79
like I wanted to be
of service to Taylor,
00:32:06.82\00:32:09.66
had no idea
00:32:09.69\00:32:11.16
that this would be
so life changing for me.
00:32:11.19\00:32:13.26
And this is when
everything clicked.
00:32:13.29\00:32:16.10
Walk me through what
happened at the meeting?
00:32:16.13\00:32:17.70
So I walk into first of all,
00:32:17.73\00:32:20.47
instantly the energy
when you first get there.
00:32:20.50\00:32:22.94
For me being
motivational speaker,
00:32:22.97\00:32:27.14
my personality
instantly is all about energy.
00:32:27.18\00:32:29.91
So when I come up,
00:32:29.94\00:32:31.28
I can have a good
time with individuals
00:32:31.31\00:32:32.91
who don't have
the same energy as me
00:32:32.95\00:32:35.35
but I'll have to do more work.
00:32:35.38\00:32:36.72
You see what I'm saying.
00:32:36.75\00:32:38.09
When people match that
and when they introduced that,
00:32:38.12\00:32:40.42
it sets a standard
for what to expect.
00:32:40.46\00:32:42.42
And it's going to
feed off itself too.
00:32:42.46\00:32:43.79
And before we could
even walk into the building
00:32:43.83\00:32:47.10
there were people
outside looking for us
00:32:47.13\00:32:48.83
to greet us with excitement.
00:32:48.86\00:32:50.53
I'm not talking
about the opening day
00:32:50.57\00:32:51.90
when we started.
00:32:51.93\00:32:53.27
They were just
looking for us to let us know
00:32:53.30\00:32:54.64
where everything was
going, where we'll be going.
00:32:54.67\00:32:56.00
But when you have
00:32:56.04\00:32:57.37
that type of
excitement starting now,
00:32:57.41\00:32:59.31
your attitude starts
to change and the way
00:32:59.34\00:33:01.88
that you look at you,
00:33:01.91\00:33:03.24
what am I walking into,
what am I about to experience,
00:33:03.28\00:33:05.88
why is everyone else excited?
00:33:05.91\00:33:07.52
Should I be excited already?
00:33:07.55\00:33:09.08
What am I about to...
00:33:09.12\00:33:10.45
What I'm about to encounter?
00:33:10.49\00:33:12.75
And that, in that moment
00:33:12.79\00:33:14.29
is when I start
preparing myself subliminally
00:33:14.32\00:33:16.56
for what I didn't even
realize was going to happen.
00:33:16.59\00:33:19.03
And so once we finally
went in there besides the fact
00:33:19.06\00:33:22.40
that my father was able to come,
00:33:22.43\00:33:24.07
one of my best
friends James Brandon
00:33:24.10\00:33:26.40
was able to join us,
00:33:26.43\00:33:28.30
my little brother
Marshall was there,
00:33:28.34\00:33:29.74
I had so many familiar faces
00:33:29.77\00:33:31.71
that I was able to partake
00:33:31.74\00:33:33.11
in this life
changing experience with me.
00:33:33.14\00:33:35.98
It blew my mind.
00:33:36.01\00:33:37.88
Now let me walk you through,
00:33:37.91\00:33:39.25
what about this
was life changing?
00:33:39.28\00:33:44.15
Which part? Okay.
We'll start somewhere.
00:33:44.19\00:33:46.79
So walking in,
00:33:46.82\00:33:51.03
seeing
individuals that I admired,
00:33:51.06\00:33:54.36
seeing
individuals passionately talk
00:33:54.40\00:33:56.30
about what they were gifted
at that spoke to my passion
00:33:56.33\00:33:59.10
and my purpose and my dream.
00:33:59.13\00:34:01.60
Seeing them speak on things
00:34:01.64\00:34:03.87
and having such an opportunity
to be in association with them,
00:34:03.91\00:34:09.14
without someone standing there,
00:34:09.18\00:34:11.75
"Oh, hey, I know Michael,
00:34:11.78\00:34:13.58
you can have a
conversation with him
00:34:13.62\00:34:15.18
because you know me
type of thing like."
00:34:15.22\00:34:16.62
Just the fact
00:34:16.65\00:34:17.99
that we were at
Fruition gave me a platform
00:34:18.02\00:34:20.19
to be able to speak to them,
00:34:20.22\00:34:21.96
without me having to feel
00:34:21.99\00:34:23.53
or explain myself of why
I deserved a conversation
00:34:23.56\00:34:26.66
or why I was
backing for a moment
00:34:26.70\00:34:28.20
of their time type of thing.
00:34:28.23\00:34:29.86
And it's amazing thing
00:34:29.90\00:34:32.13
just like he shunned
away the mentee type thing,
00:34:32.17\00:34:35.00
he said, we're
all on the same level.
00:34:35.04\00:34:36.71
I'm privileged to be a mentee
00:34:36.74\00:34:38.27
if that's what
you want to call me
00:34:38.31\00:34:39.97
to this because I learned
so much from these individuals.
00:34:40.01\00:34:42.41
So there's a synergy going on.
00:34:42.44\00:34:43.78
I got to leave you on
00:34:43.81\00:34:45.15
because I want to
get to this Pain4purpose,
00:34:45.18\00:34:48.55
what is it?
00:34:48.58\00:34:49.92
Where did that title come from?
And what are you seeking to do?
00:34:49.95\00:34:51.89
Pain4purpose is my life.
00:34:51.92\00:34:53.46
Number one,
00:34:53.49\00:34:54.92
it's my motivation in
encouraging individuals
00:34:54.96\00:34:58.99
I never understood.
00:34:59.03\00:35:01.06
Me even choosing to
do motivational speaking
00:35:01.10\00:35:03.40
being passionate about
this is not because I thought
00:35:03.43\00:35:06.00
that this was a
great profession is because
00:35:06.03\00:35:08.24
I never understood
how many individuals
00:35:08.27\00:35:10.24
don't see the good
that I see in them.
00:35:10.27\00:35:13.07
I see so much in
individuals and it excites me
00:35:13.11\00:35:15.38
for them to see it
00:35:15.41\00:35:16.75
just kind of I
guess like Fruition.
00:35:16.78\00:35:18.45
And what happens is that
when I tell them about it,
00:35:18.48\00:35:22.35
I never realize the surprise
it takes on individuals.
00:35:22.38\00:35:25.55
And I'm like why
is this new to you,
00:35:25.59\00:35:27.32
do you not know,
what you're capable of?
00:35:27.36\00:35:29.66
And what I see in you.
00:35:29.69\00:35:31.19
And once I realize
00:35:31.23\00:35:32.56
how many individuals
out there didn't see it.
00:35:32.59\00:35:35.10
It became a
passion thing for me.
00:35:35.13\00:35:37.33
So Pain4purpose for me
originated probably in college,
00:35:37.37\00:35:41.47
you know, I really struggled
with school, very hard.
00:35:41.50\00:35:45.37
And for me a lot of things
naturally came easy for me.
00:35:45.41\00:35:47.68
And people
gravitated to my personality
00:35:47.71\00:35:49.38
which was something
00:35:49.41\00:35:50.75
that was
extremely normal for me,
00:35:50.78\00:35:52.25
but a lot of people
enjoy hearing someone
00:35:52.28\00:35:54.18
who can I guess rock the crowd
00:35:54.22\00:35:55.95
or I have individuals
laughing at the tip of a word
00:35:55.98\00:36:00.96
or a comment or statement.
00:36:00.99\00:36:02.92
And for me it was normal
00:36:02.96\00:36:04.29
so I would do that in a
group of two or three people,
00:36:04.33\00:36:06.56
but when the big crowds do it
00:36:06.59\00:36:07.96
they think that it's
something special with you
00:36:08.00\00:36:09.56
but it was something normal.
00:36:09.60\00:36:10.93
So I started,
00:36:10.97\00:36:12.30
I started accepting
what people consider great
00:36:12.33\00:36:15.57
that was extremely
average for myself.
00:36:15.60\00:36:17.57
And so I never had anyone
set a higher standard for me
00:36:17.61\00:36:20.58
because everybody accepted
my good is great, you know.
00:36:20.61\00:36:24.15
And so what was
ordinary for me was,
00:36:24.18\00:36:26.21
it was extraordinary
00:36:26.25\00:36:27.58
to other
individuals, they celebrate...
00:36:27.62\00:36:28.95
So you say you
had a gift for this?
00:36:28.98\00:36:30.89
God had given
you a special gift.
00:36:30.92\00:36:32.25
I had a gift that. All right.
00:36:32.29\00:36:33.62
And so what happens
00:36:33.66\00:36:34.99
that when I
finally faced something
00:36:35.02\00:36:36.36
that was out of my comfort zone
00:36:36.39\00:36:37.93
which was naturally maybe school
00:36:37.96\00:36:39.79
or I didn't realize
00:36:39.83\00:36:41.16
how to go about searching
for answers or for help.
00:36:41.20\00:36:44.37
And so instead of,
00:36:44.40\00:36:46.27
instead of seeking
help out my discomfort
00:36:46.30\00:36:50.94
made me feel like internalize
that I had already failed
00:36:50.97\00:36:53.88
even before I naturally failed.
00:36:53.91\00:36:55.44
And so what I would
do instead of felling it
00:36:55.48\00:36:57.35
and seeing myself
fail, I would drop out,
00:36:57.38\00:37:00.05
I would, I would quit,
00:37:00.08\00:37:01.42
I would pay all this money
00:37:01.45\00:37:02.78
and I would do it
before I would drop the class,
00:37:02.82\00:37:04.15
I would drop the
class, drop the class.
00:37:04.19\00:37:05.52
And to the point
to where I could feel
00:37:05.55\00:37:07.19
that I was behind in school
00:37:07.22\00:37:08.56
but I didn't even want
to log and check it out.
00:37:08.59\00:37:11.03
You know, I didn't want
to see how far behind I was.
00:37:11.06\00:37:13.06
So four years
turned to six years,
00:37:13.09\00:37:14.90
six years turned to seven
years and I'm still like, "Okay,
00:37:14.93\00:37:17.70
this is getting expensive.
00:37:17.73\00:37:19.07
You know, this is
an expensive mistake."
00:37:19.10\00:37:20.44
You come home, you come home
every year, everybody is like,
00:37:20.47\00:37:22.57
"Hey, Mike, you got a brother.
00:37:22.60\00:37:23.94
He was behind you
00:37:23.97\00:37:25.31
but I think he's
graduating this year.
00:37:25.34\00:37:26.68
What are you doing?"
00:37:26.71\00:37:28.04
And I'm just like,
00:37:28.08\00:37:29.41
"I'm going back,
that's what I'm doing.
00:37:29.44\00:37:30.78
I'm going back."
00:37:30.81\00:37:32.15
And what my mom
always instilled in me,
00:37:32.18\00:37:33.52
she was like,
00:37:33.55\00:37:34.88
"Don't you ever give up,
don't you ever stop trying."
00:37:34.92\00:37:37.25
And it meant a lot to me
00:37:37.29\00:37:38.89
because one thing I realized
is that individuals are like,
00:37:38.92\00:37:42.72
what are you gonna do
go back to school and do?"
00:37:42.76\00:37:44.09
I say, "I'm going back
to school and try, you know.
00:37:44.13\00:37:45.86
I'm gonna go back
to school and try."
00:37:45.89\00:37:47.23
What happens if I
give up after this,
00:37:47.26\00:37:49.60
after this mark, what
do I have to show for?
00:37:49.63\00:37:51.57
All I have is that quick,
00:37:51.60\00:37:53.34
if I keep going eventually
00:37:53.37\00:37:54.94
even as crazy as
it may look to you,
00:37:54.97\00:37:56.87
eventually I'm
gonna find a way to finish
00:37:56.91\00:37:58.74
because I never gave up.
00:37:58.77\00:38:00.14
And that pain which
was uncomfortable for me,
00:38:00.18\00:38:03.55
I knew it could be worked
toward the ultimate purpose.
00:38:03.58\00:38:05.61
And so the relation
that it has to everyone else
00:38:05.65\00:38:07.85
is that no matter
00:38:07.88\00:38:09.22
what walk of life
that you come from,
00:38:09.25\00:38:10.59
no matter where you
00:38:10.62\00:38:11.95
are everybody goes through some,
00:38:11.99\00:38:13.66
something that's uncomfortable.
00:38:13.69\00:38:15.09
And if you can take
that in everybody in life,
00:38:15.12\00:38:18.53
pain is the one
thing that's inevitable.
00:38:18.56\00:38:20.36
We all have to go through that.
00:38:20.40\00:38:21.73
Not everybody can choose
to be happy in life but they,
00:38:21.76\00:38:24.43
everybody has to go to pain.
00:38:24.47\00:38:26.03
Even Christ's journey
was Pain4purpose, you know.
00:38:26.07\00:38:28.80
And He did it intentionally,
00:38:28.84\00:38:30.44
He accepted pain to
go for ultimate purpose
00:38:30.47\00:38:33.98
which is salvation, you know.
00:38:34.01\00:38:35.34
So for me instead of just
being knocked over by the pain,
00:38:35.38\00:38:40.78
I heard a quote to
say that everybody in life
00:38:40.82\00:38:42.85
is either walking into a storm,
00:38:42.88\00:38:44.99
in the midst of a
storm or coming out of one.
00:38:45.02\00:38:46.92
So that's pain, you know.
00:38:46.96\00:38:48.36
Storm is pain
00:38:48.39\00:38:49.72
and if we can
start to brace ourselves
00:38:49.76\00:38:51.56
for the pain that will come
00:38:51.59\00:38:53.16
and get excited
about the process
00:38:53.19\00:38:55.06
that it can transform
us into that we can use
00:38:55.10\00:38:57.67
that pain
ultimately for a purpose.
00:38:57.70\00:38:59.07
So there is a
purpose in all pain.
00:38:59.10\00:39:00.44
There is always
a purpose for pain.
00:39:00.47\00:39:02.54
And once you get out of it
00:39:02.57\00:39:03.91
is how you
address it and redress it.
00:39:03.94\00:39:05.97
You know I tell people and
I want to come back to you,
00:39:06.01\00:39:08.04
Jeff and Taylor
in just a moment.
00:39:08.08\00:39:09.84
You know, people
are impressive people
00:39:09.88\00:39:11.61
with doctor's degrees.
00:39:11.65\00:39:13.15
You don't really have to
be that smart to get a PhD,
00:39:13.18\00:39:16.48
you do have to be focus,
you just got to stay with it,
00:39:16.52\00:39:18.82
if you give enough money
00:39:18.85\00:39:20.26
to stay with long enough,
they will give you a degree,
00:39:20.29\00:39:21.76
'cause they don't
want people in queue,
00:39:21.79\00:39:23.32
you know, they want
you through the system
00:39:23.36\00:39:25.23
'cause we've got
all these doctors too,
00:39:25.26\00:39:26.70
we can't graduate with
them, some wrong with that.
00:39:26.73\00:39:28.56
So if you just stick
with it, give enough cash,
00:39:28.60\00:39:30.77
they'll give you your degrees.
00:39:30.80\00:39:32.13
So you don't have to be a genius
00:39:32.17\00:39:33.50
but you do have to be focused.
00:39:33.54\00:39:35.27
And stay with it and I think
00:39:35.30\00:39:37.81
that is a recipe
for success in life.
00:39:37.84\00:39:40.08
You don't
necessarily have to be a genius
00:39:40.11\00:39:42.74
but you do have to be focused,
00:39:42.78\00:39:44.11
you got to kind
of see your goal,
00:39:44.15\00:39:45.95
see your purpose.
00:39:45.98\00:39:47.32
Stay focus on your purpose
and you get what you want.
00:39:47.35\00:39:49.28
Tell me about these
conferences that you have.
00:39:49.32\00:39:52.72
Are they in, and thank
you, Michael before that.
00:39:52.75\00:39:54.49
Absolutely.
00:39:54.52\00:39:55.86
Are they in cooperation with ASI
00:39:55.89\00:39:58.86
'cause I know
you're recognized by ASI?
00:39:58.89\00:40:00.46
Do you have it around ASI,
00:40:00.50\00:40:01.83
it's time you
walk me through that?
00:40:01.86\00:40:03.20
Well, we really
support appreciate the work
00:40:03.23\00:40:05.33
that they've done
00:40:05.37\00:40:06.70
to rally together
Adventist business leaders.
00:40:06.74\00:40:09.00
You know, ever
since EA Sutherland
00:40:09.04\00:40:10.54
bringing this together.
00:40:10.57\00:40:11.91
And so we want to continue
to provide support to that
00:40:11.94\00:40:15.44
and them to us as well.
00:40:15.48\00:40:16.81
So, yeah,
00:40:16.85\00:40:18.18
we're working in conjunction
with them for this year.
00:40:18.21\00:40:20.68
And we're excited
about being able to grow
00:40:20.72\00:40:23.05
and expand this
thing all over the world.
00:40:23.08\00:40:27.29
You brought a
couple trophies with you.
00:40:27.32\00:40:31.43
And forgive me, gentlemen,
00:40:31.46\00:40:32.79
for referring
you to as trophies.
00:40:32.83\00:40:35.96
Said not need it. Thank you.
00:40:36.00\00:40:37.93
Just polish the
trophy. Oh, yeah.
00:40:37.97\00:40:41.14
Embrace your trophies.
00:40:41.17\00:40:45.14
Tell me the kind of response
00:40:45.17\00:40:46.51
you're getting across the board?
00:40:46.54\00:40:47.88
Well, I mean
since the first one,
00:40:47.91\00:40:49.38
we had no idea what to expect
00:40:49.41\00:40:50.78
because this is
the first of its kind,
00:40:50.81\00:40:52.15
it never happened
within the Adventist context,
00:40:52.18\00:40:53.92
at least from the
start up perspective.
00:40:53.95\00:40:55.85
And it exceeded
our expectations,
00:40:55.88\00:40:57.62
we didn't know
what was gonna happen
00:40:57.65\00:40:58.99
but from the speakers
00:40:59.02\00:41:00.36
who were there,
to the attendees,
00:41:00.39\00:41:01.72
to the people
who were part of it.
00:41:01.76\00:41:03.43
Yeah, it was really exciting,
we had the universities around,
00:41:03.46\00:41:05.93
we did some follow
up one days at Andrews,
00:41:05.96\00:41:09.63
we did one at
Pacific Union College.
00:41:09.66\00:41:11.87
And we have some coming
up at other universities
00:41:11.90\00:41:13.87
that people just want to
see this thing happen all over.
00:41:13.90\00:41:17.11
And then we have
guys in Ghana, India,
00:41:17.14\00:41:20.01
Australia all over the world
00:41:20.04\00:41:21.38
who want to see this
thing continue to grow
00:41:21.41\00:41:22.81
because it doesn't
matter who you are,
00:41:22.84\00:41:24.35
what your background is,
00:41:24.38\00:41:25.88
where you're
from, your religion,
00:41:25.91\00:41:27.98
you can be a problem solver,
you can be an entrepreneur.
00:41:28.02\00:41:31.02
And we want to rally
together to help people
00:41:31.05\00:41:34.06
make those
great ideas a reality.
00:41:34.09\00:41:35.86
You know, when I
see Seth and Mike,
00:41:35.89\00:41:38.09
you know, you
might see SWAYY hammocks,
00:41:38.13\00:41:39.83
you might see Pain4purpose
00:41:39.86\00:41:41.20
but these are the
people behind the products,
00:41:41.23\00:41:43.16
even you think of
this chair in front of me
00:41:43.20\00:41:45.00
like there's a person
00:41:45.03\00:41:46.37
behind making
this chair a reality.
00:41:46.40\00:41:48.37
When you think of 3ABN,
00:41:48.40\00:41:49.97
there's a person behind
that and what we want to do
00:41:50.01\00:41:52.01
is continue to
support the people
00:41:52.04\00:41:53.91
who are making those products
00:41:53.94\00:41:55.41
and making the change
in the world a reality.
00:41:55.44\00:41:58.31
So we're excited to continue
to grow the network to expand,
00:41:58.35\00:42:03.42
to bring
everybody into this thing.
00:42:03.45\00:42:04.79
It's an inclusive conversation
from the whole specter
00:42:04.82\00:42:08.02
of those who are
curious about entrepreneurship,
00:42:08.06\00:42:09.82
those are that
on the thick of it,
00:42:09.86\00:42:11.19
and those who what
we say "you made it."
00:42:11.23\00:42:12.93
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:12.96\00:42:14.30
But everybody can be a
part of that conversation.
00:42:14.33\00:42:15.93
That's what we're excited about.
00:42:15.96\00:42:17.30
Two things come to
mind to question you on.
00:42:17.33\00:42:20.24
Are your meetings
held in conjunction
00:42:20.27\00:42:21.80
with ASI meetings?
00:42:21.84\00:42:23.17
Are they separate?
00:42:23.20\00:42:24.54
Are they at a given
time during the year?
00:42:24.57\00:42:26.68
I'm a person
sitting at home watching,
00:42:26.71\00:42:29.64
I've got some ideas in my mind,
00:42:29.68\00:42:32.38
how do I connect
00:42:32.41\00:42:33.78
and when would I
have an opportunity to do
00:42:33.82\00:42:36.18
what Seth and
Michael have been doing?
00:42:36.22\00:42:37.59
Yeah, well, the
best way to do it
00:42:37.62\00:42:38.95
is to go to our
website FruitionLab.org
00:42:38.99\00:42:41.46
and give us your information
and we'll keep you in the loop
00:42:41.49\00:42:44.93
as to the events
that are going on.
00:42:44.96\00:42:46.29
Yes, we're doing this
one with ASI this year
00:42:46.33\00:42:47.66
but we're going even beyond ASI
00:42:47.70\00:42:50.97
with our current vision
00:42:51.00\00:42:52.37
for where we want
to see Fruition go.
00:42:52.40\00:42:54.00
Excellent. Excellent.
00:42:54.04\00:42:55.37
Now you did mention you're doing
00:42:55.40\00:42:56.74
the college campus circuit?
00:42:56.77\00:42:58.34
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That is fabulous.
00:42:58.37\00:43:01.71
And one of the things
we found is that students
00:43:01.74\00:43:04.38
that are at school,
00:43:04.41\00:43:05.75
very few people are like Seth
00:43:05.78\00:43:07.68
who are in the midst of school
and able to create a product
00:43:07.72\00:43:09.82
while they're in
school very few, handful.
00:43:09.85\00:43:13.25
There, you know, most
students that are in school,
00:43:13.29\00:43:14.96
they're in the thick of it.
00:43:14.99\00:43:16.32
They have classes,
five or six classes.
00:43:16.36\00:43:18.13
They're stacking
up with student debt.
00:43:18.16\00:43:19.86
I call them the new zombies.
00:43:19.89\00:43:21.23
They're in the zombie mode
00:43:21.26\00:43:22.60
from with the freshmen year
until whenever they graduate.
00:43:22.63\00:43:24.33
Yeah. That's true.
Yeah, we expect, yeah.
00:43:24.37\00:43:26.30
But we found that
the most receptive
00:43:26.33\00:43:28.44
are actually high
school and academy students,
00:43:28.47\00:43:31.07
they're the most creative,
00:43:31.11\00:43:32.57
they're the most in
tune with the market,
00:43:32.61\00:43:33.98
and they have the
least amount to lose.
00:43:34.01\00:43:35.34
That's true.
00:43:35.38\00:43:36.71
And so we've done some stuff
at academies and high schools,
00:43:36.75\00:43:39.11
and just getting
students fired up there.
00:43:39.15\00:43:40.62
They're ready to do it there.
00:43:40.65\00:43:41.98
So they're
getting in at that age?
00:43:42.02\00:43:43.35
And so get it before
them, give them exposure to it,
00:43:43.39\00:43:44.95
the marketing,
the business strategy,
00:43:44.99\00:43:46.45
the team-building opportunities,
00:43:46.49\00:43:48.96
get it early on
and then afterwards
00:43:48.99\00:43:50.33
those that
graduated with a degree
00:43:50.36\00:43:51.73
like, "Man, this wasn't what
00:43:51.76\00:43:53.09
I was thinking it was gonna be."
00:43:53.13\00:43:54.46
And have an idea
that they want to start.
00:43:54.50\00:43:57.17
And I mean,
it's the whole gamut,
00:43:57.20\00:43:58.57
but it's kind of where
we're currently at with it.
00:43:58.60\00:44:01.34
Seth, actually what
your undergrad degree was?
00:44:01.37\00:44:03.71
So I did my associates
in construction management,
00:44:03.74\00:44:05.71
and my bachelor's in business
management entrepreneurship.
00:44:05.74\00:44:08.31
And I did the sap
program. Oh, okay.
00:44:08.34\00:44:10.35
Which is, yeah,
00:44:10.38\00:44:11.71
has written the
school evangelism.
00:44:11.75\00:44:13.08
So the time in the Philippines
was submission of time
00:44:13.11\00:44:14.88
that you took off.
00:44:14.92\00:44:16.25
Yeah, that was I did three,
00:44:16.28\00:44:18.29
I took 12 credit
hours while I was over
00:44:18.32\00:44:19.95
there to keep my loans in check.
00:44:19.99\00:44:22.62
Oh, yeah. But
yeah. Let me tell you.
00:44:22.66\00:44:25.49
He's the thinking
guy, you know, you know.
00:44:25.53\00:44:28.20
So yeah, then that was my,
00:44:28.23\00:44:32.23
that would've
been my junior year
00:44:32.27\00:44:33.60
so it was two years at
Southern, one year overseas,
00:44:33.64\00:44:36.00
and then three years
back and now I'm done.
00:44:36.04\00:44:39.27
Now you are.
00:44:39.31\00:44:40.64
Where is your
product actually made?
00:44:40.68\00:44:43.51
So I'm making it with
myself and Steven Webb
00:44:43.55\00:44:46.92
who is our
manufacturing specialist
00:44:46.95\00:44:49.38
and design specialist.
00:44:49.42\00:44:51.22
So we're being made in
the United States right now.
00:44:51.25\00:44:53.09
We're working with plans
00:44:53.12\00:44:54.46
to have them
made overseas as well.
00:44:54.49\00:44:56.62
I have a Chinese investor
00:44:56.66\00:44:57.99
who's giving me
plans to do that,
00:44:58.03\00:44:59.49
we're in the middle
00:44:59.53\00:45:00.86
of international patent process.
00:45:00.90\00:45:03.03
So we'll see
where the Lord leads,
00:45:03.06\00:45:05.07
I mean, the scope of
ideas goes even wider than that,
00:45:05.10\00:45:08.07
I have contacts that
are in Malawi right now
00:45:08.10\00:45:10.31
who are looking
at the market to see
00:45:10.34\00:45:11.67
what kind of products
00:45:11.71\00:45:13.34
that we could possibly
make there for a trade school.
00:45:13.38\00:45:15.81
I forget the name of
the specific trade school,
00:45:15.84\00:45:18.68
but they want to open up
a stunning establishment.
00:45:18.71\00:45:20.82
And it would be a great
way if they could make some
00:45:20.85\00:45:22.82
just more basic
forms of hammocks as a way
00:45:22.85\00:45:25.59
to help the students
pay for their schooling
00:45:25.62\00:45:28.92
and also people eat that up
00:45:28.96\00:45:30.66
and you bring it
back to the States
00:45:30.69\00:45:32.03
because you're
helping somebody else.
00:45:32.06\00:45:34.03
So we have
connections there and all over.
00:45:34.06\00:45:36.63
Yeah, Michael, coming to
you as a motivational speaker,
00:45:36.67\00:45:39.20
our most folk buying
00:45:39.23\00:45:40.84
into the understanding that pain
00:45:40.87\00:45:43.14
may not be
something to be shunned
00:45:43.17\00:45:45.07
but something to
use as a foundation
00:45:45.11\00:45:46.71
for your own growth
00:45:46.74\00:45:48.08
and your own self
sort of actualization?
00:45:48.11\00:45:50.08
I would say yes,
00:45:50.11\00:45:51.45
but also it needs
to be reminded daily.
00:45:51.48\00:45:55.05
You know, like, Les Brown
said, he's like, he recommends,
00:45:55.08\00:45:58.82
he recommends showering daily.
00:45:58.85\00:46:00.76
You know, it
definitely cleans you
00:46:00.79\00:46:02.96
but you don't get clean
one time for everything.
00:46:02.99\00:46:04.73
Right. Yeah.
00:46:04.76\00:46:06.09
Yes, it's the same process
and actually the humbling think
00:46:06.13\00:46:08.30
about it is that I use
the same thing with myself.
00:46:08.33\00:46:10.67
Pain4purpose was
actually intended for me.
00:46:10.70\00:46:13.67
From my life to help me
push through difficulties
00:46:13.70\00:46:15.90
that I was having and realized
00:46:15.94\00:46:17.67
that in
encouraging myself publicly
00:46:17.71\00:46:20.61
and being
vulnerable and transparent
00:46:20.64\00:46:22.61
that it was
encouraging someone else.
00:46:22.64\00:46:24.11
So in doing that I
just keep speaking to myself
00:46:24.15\00:46:27.48
and I'm like, every day, Mike,
you got this and God got you.
00:46:27.52\00:46:31.12
So in the process of doing that,
00:46:31.15\00:46:33.36
someone else is blessed by that.
00:46:33.39\00:46:34.72
And I'm like, God,
00:46:34.76\00:46:36.09
you're awesome
00:46:36.12\00:46:37.46
because this
wasn't even for them,
00:46:37.49\00:46:38.83
so the fact that
they're excited about this.
00:46:38.86\00:46:41.06
I'm just excited
for me to have a chance.
00:46:41.10\00:46:43.90
It been closer to my purpose
00:46:43.93\00:46:46.13
and for somebody else
to get something from that,
00:46:46.17\00:46:48.20
it reminds me that
God's plan is perfect so.
00:46:48.24\00:46:52.44
Yeah. Powerful,
powerful, powerful.
00:46:52.47\00:46:55.24
I'm just very impressed
00:46:55.28\00:46:56.61
that somebody is taking this on.
00:46:56.64\00:46:59.01
As if we were to
align you up with ASI,
00:46:59.05\00:47:02.28
the difference
between what ASI does
00:47:02.32\00:47:04.29
because ASI is an association,
00:47:04.32\00:47:06.39
a group of people
00:47:06.42\00:47:07.99
who ascribe to a certain way
of prosecuting their business,
00:47:08.02\00:47:13.09
their marketplace?
00:47:13.13\00:47:14.46
What is the basic difference
00:47:14.50\00:47:15.83
between what
you're seeking to do
00:47:15.86\00:47:17.20
and a more
established group like ASI?
00:47:17.23\00:47:19.03
Yeah, we see ASI
00:47:19.07\00:47:20.70
is like you said
established business leaders
00:47:20.74\00:47:22.97
that are looking to number one,
00:47:23.00\00:47:25.51
be a Christ in the marketplace,
00:47:25.54\00:47:27.78
show Christ in the marketplace
00:47:27.81\00:47:29.14
with where
they're currently working
00:47:29.18\00:47:30.68
and to pour back into
ministries and nonprofits
00:47:30.71\00:47:34.52
that are being
supported all around the world.
00:47:34.55\00:47:37.89
With Fruition, we see Fruition
00:47:37.92\00:47:39.72
as pouring into the
start-up community entrepreneurs
00:47:39.75\00:47:43.26
for-profit, nonprofit, product,
00:47:43.29\00:47:44.63
it doesn't matter
00:47:44.66\00:47:45.99
who you are in the
entrepreneurial journey
00:47:46.03\00:47:48.46
that's our specific contribution
00:47:48.50\00:47:51.00
that we feel like
that differentiates us
00:47:51.03\00:47:53.64
but we also find
there's a lot of room
00:47:53.67\00:47:55.00
for collaboration
as well in support.
00:47:55.04\00:47:58.64
To the person that's out there
00:47:58.67\00:48:00.01
who is thinking
turning things over their mind,
00:48:00.04\00:48:01.81
but they're just,
they're paralyzed,
00:48:01.84\00:48:04.08
they've got this,
you know, by fear.
00:48:04.11\00:48:06.48
What is the
biggest myth dare I say
00:48:06.51\00:48:12.29
about starting up a business
00:48:12.32\00:48:15.06
that you'd like to bust just now
00:48:15.09\00:48:16.93
as far as
difficulty or even getting
00:48:16.96\00:48:18.59
your feet on the ground?
00:48:18.63\00:48:19.96
The biggest myth that I think
is that conjunction I can't.
00:48:20.00\00:48:24.10
I think a lot of people,
00:48:24.13\00:48:25.47
you know, they see
too many obstacles,
00:48:25.50\00:48:27.37
and they don't
think it's possible
00:48:27.40\00:48:29.37
to make their idea a reality.
00:48:29.40\00:48:30.87
And I think
that's the greatest myth.
00:48:30.91\00:48:32.61
I think, it's easier now
00:48:32.64\00:48:33.98
to make your idea
reality than it's ever been.
00:48:34.01\00:48:36.71
Get access to
resources, to people.
00:48:36.75\00:48:38.88
YouTube videos teaching
you how to do stuff for free.
00:48:38.91\00:48:41.08
Education isn't
an obstacle anymore.
00:48:41.12\00:48:44.25
Access to
finances with Kickstarter
00:48:44.29\00:48:46.02
being able to
fundraise your business
00:48:46.05\00:48:48.19
to get to where you want to
be, and do what you want to do,
00:48:48.22\00:48:50.63
and live the dream that
God has put on your heart.
00:48:50.66\00:48:52.76
It's easier to do
now that it's ever been.
00:48:52.79\00:48:54.80
But that word I
can't is anathema like,
00:48:54.83\00:48:57.77
if you believe that you won't.
00:48:57.80\00:49:00.94
But I think, you know,
00:49:00.97\00:49:03.04
but being around
a group of people
00:49:03.07\00:49:04.41
who are dreamers,
doers, believers, activators,
00:49:04.44\00:49:08.18
impactors is something
00:49:08.21\00:49:09.94
that helps you see
something in yourself
00:49:09.98\00:49:12.41
that you don't currently see.
00:49:12.45\00:49:14.05
And it helps you
push the ball forward.
00:49:14.08\00:49:16.38
So yeah, I don't believe
that lie that you can't do.
00:49:16.42\00:49:21.82
You might fail along
the way but fail forward.
00:49:21.86\00:49:24.26
Yeah. And learn
through the process.
00:49:24.29\00:49:26.19
And I mean, only successful...
00:49:26.23\00:49:28.70
Hey, Jeff. Yeah.
00:49:28.73\00:49:30.07
I want to piggyback on
what you just said and I know,
00:49:30.10\00:49:32.60
I'm just a
trophy but I do want to.
00:49:32.63\00:49:37.17
I do want to
piggyback on what you said
00:49:37.21\00:49:39.07
because one of the biggest myths
00:49:39.11\00:49:40.68
that I found even with
speaking on the way down here
00:49:40.71\00:49:43.18
is that it takes one person.
00:49:43.21\00:49:45.31
You know that you
can do this alone.
00:49:45.35\00:49:46.72
And one of the reasons
00:49:46.75\00:49:48.08
why it's taken a
lot of individuals
00:49:48.12\00:49:49.88
a long time to
start off and even me,
00:49:49.92\00:49:51.35
personally I feel like I
haven't got us moving, is be,
00:49:51.39\00:49:54.49
got moving us quickly is I felt
like I should have initially
00:49:54.52\00:49:58.16
is because I looked
at people that I admired,
00:49:58.19\00:50:00.10
and I thought
00:50:00.13\00:50:01.46
that they were
doing it by themselves.
00:50:01.50\00:50:03.53
And so I always
thought to myself was like
00:50:03.57\00:50:05.13
I can't do all this by myself.
00:50:05.17\00:50:06.74
And I was overwhelmingly
continue to give up
00:50:06.77\00:50:09.30
or put it aside,
00:50:09.34\00:50:10.67
thinking that I
was, it was just me.
00:50:10.71\00:50:12.54
You know, and it
wasn't until speaking
00:50:12.57\00:50:15.58
with Jeff a few times.
00:50:15.61\00:50:16.95
And I realized
00:50:16.98\00:50:18.31
that it's never just you
00:50:18.35\00:50:20.05
and anyone in and
matter of fact any,
00:50:20.08\00:50:22.28
any well,
00:50:22.32\00:50:23.72
any intelligent married
man will let you know that.
00:50:23.75\00:50:26.22
Oh, yeah.
00:50:26.25\00:50:27.59
Who's approached that,
it's not, it's not just me.
00:50:27.62\00:50:29.62
You know, what I'm saying,
00:50:29.66\00:50:30.99
a lot of things behind you
00:50:31.03\00:50:32.36
what they say a great man
has an even greater woman,
00:50:32.39\00:50:34.16
you know what I'm
saying, a better woman.
00:50:34.20\00:50:35.53
But even with the business,
00:50:35.56\00:50:36.90
you have, I was just telling
one of the ladies in the back.
00:50:36.93\00:50:40.07
I was like,
00:50:40.10\00:50:41.44
I found that some of
the most remarkable people
00:50:41.47\00:50:43.07
that I've ever met.
00:50:43.10\00:50:45.01
No matter how
much applause I get
00:50:45.04\00:50:47.31
or how much a celebration people
00:50:47.34\00:50:48.68
give me for things
00:50:48.71\00:50:50.05
that I may say in
front of the camera.
00:50:50.08\00:50:51.48
Most incredible people
I've ever met are people
00:50:51.51\00:50:53.11
that never step in
front of the camera.
00:50:53.15\00:50:54.68
They're most talented people,
00:50:54.72\00:50:56.05
most beautifully
minded individuals
00:50:56.08\00:50:58.55
are outside of that.
00:50:58.59\00:51:00.06
And it's the collaboration
00:51:00.09\00:51:01.42
of individuals
putting together an idea
00:51:01.46\00:51:03.19
and we may be the face of it.
00:51:03.22\00:51:04.76
But it's so many
different individuals.
00:51:04.79\00:51:06.13
So if somebody out there
that wants to brew something
00:51:06.16\00:51:07.70
or put something
in into Fruition,
00:51:07.73\00:51:10.93
you need a group of individuals
00:51:10.97\00:51:12.97
to help that as
well, it is never just one.
00:51:13.00\00:51:14.34
Well said. Well said.
00:51:14.37\00:51:15.70
Taylor, I wanna come to
you. Let me ask you a question.
00:51:15.74\00:51:17.21
Which is the better
teacher, success or failure?
00:51:17.24\00:51:21.08
Failure probably,
00:51:21.11\00:51:22.51
but success is more fun to have.
00:51:22.54\00:51:25.31
I would say...
00:51:25.35\00:51:26.68
Yeah.
00:51:26.72\00:51:28.05
You know going back
to kind of the accountant
00:51:28.08\00:51:29.42
before is that
00:51:29.45\00:51:31.25
the best time to plant a
tree is 20 years ago and today.
00:51:31.29\00:51:35.46
So you know,
00:51:35.49\00:51:36.83
ideally you would
have started something
00:51:36.86\00:51:38.19
20 years ago,
00:51:38.23\00:51:39.56
but don't be afraid of
that, start it today, you know.
00:51:39.59\00:51:40.93
Yeah.
00:51:40.96\00:51:42.30
Yeah, and not afraid of failure.
00:51:42.33\00:51:44.20
Again a marvelous ministry
00:51:44.23\00:51:46.07
one that deserves
your prayers and support.
00:51:46.10\00:51:49.20
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00:51:51.17\00:51:55.44
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00:51:55.48\00:51:57.95
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00:51:57.98\00:52:01.42
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00:52:07.32\00:52:09.19
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00:52:09.22\00:52:10.56
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00:52:10.59\00:52:12.63
then Fruition Lab is for you.
00:52:12.66\00:52:15.43
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00:52:15.46\00:52:20.04
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00:52:20.07\00:52:22.70
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00:52:22.74\00:52:25.51
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00:52:25.54\00:52:29.34
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00:52:29.38\00:52:33.48
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