Participants: Greg and Jill Morikone (Host), Mark Sandoval, M.D., David Livermore, Duthier Jean-Pierre
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017055A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:11 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:10 We are so thankful that you joined us 01:13 as you do each and every day 01:14 and, you know, we really appreciate your support, 01:17 your financial support, 01:18 your prayers for the ministry of 3ABN, 01:21 because it's definitely a team effort. 01:23 Then of course, the Lord Jesus Christ 01:25 supplies all of our needs, 01:26 but we appreciate you 01:28 and it's always a blessing 01:29 when we get to meet you in person 01:31 because I mean, 01:32 what we're doing right now, we're looking at you 01:34 through the television screen, through this camera, 01:36 but we're basically looking at a piece of glass. 01:37 So it's always nice when we get to meet you in person, 01:40 but if we're all faithful to the calling 01:42 that Jesus Christ has put on each one of our lives, 01:45 someday if we don't meet on this earth, 01:47 we'll get to meet in heaven, 01:48 what a glorious day that will be, won't it? 01:50 You know, I don't know 01:51 if you paid attention to that song, 01:53 I love that song as the open plays, 01:54 I want to spend my life mending broken people, 01:59 so that mending can be what, emotional, spiritual, physical, 02:05 like your health 02:06 and we're going to be talking about 02:07 some health today, aren't we? 02:09 Good segues really, I like that. 02:10 Did you like that? 02:12 So that's right, God wants us to be in health. 02:14 That's right. 02:15 Even as our soul prospers, 02:17 He cares about us spiritually and emotionally, 02:18 but physically as well 02:20 and our special guest today, 02:22 the ministry is no stranger to you at 3ABN, 02:25 but some of the faces here 02:27 associated with this ministry might be new 02:29 and it's our privilege to introduce you 02:31 at home to our special friends here. 02:34 We have Uchee Pines Institute with us here today 02:37 and we're gonna be talking about health. 02:38 We have Dr. Mark Sandoval 02:40 and you are the president of Uchee Pines Institute. 02:43 Correct. 02:44 And thank you so much for being here. 02:45 It's a privilege to have you. 02:47 How long have you been president 02:48 or how long have you been at Uchee Pines? 02:50 I have been at Uchee Pines for five years now 02:52 and I've been president for the last two years. 02:55 Okay, nice. 02:56 And sitting next to you is, Elder David, 02:59 or Elder Dave Livermore, 03:01 you are the president of the Gulf States Conference 03:04 and it's a privilege and joy to have you here as well. 03:06 Thank you, it's great to be with you. 03:08 So somebody at home may be saying, 03:09 "Oh, so he's president of Gulf States," 03:11 so how does that tie in with Uchee Pines, 03:13 we're going to get to a really neat story here, yeah, 03:16 so it's a great testimony for sure. 03:18 And sitting next to you is Brother Duthier Jean-Pierre 03:22 and I said I'd only say his name once. 03:23 Excellent! Good job. 03:25 I'm probably going to mess it up after that 03:26 and, Brother Duthier, we're so glad you're here. 03:29 Thank you, thank you, it's a privilege. 03:30 And what is your role at Uchee Pines? 03:32 I'm the assistant education director 03:34 at Uchee Pines currently. 03:36 Okay, that's wonderful. 03:37 Yeah, fantastic, you know, so before we get to the music, 03:40 we should probably find out what Uchee Pines is, you know, 03:42 because Uchee Pines is kind of is unique name, 03:44 Uchee, Uchee Pines, obviously pine trees, 03:46 but tell us where Uchee Pines is 03:48 and a little bit about what Uchee Pines is? 03:50 Well, Uchee Pines is right on the border 03:52 of Alabama and Georgia, 03:54 we're about two hours from Atlanta. 03:57 And we are a missionary institution 04:01 that trains medical missionaries 04:04 and we also have a lifestyle center 04:05 where individuals come to us from all over the world 04:07 to learn how to live, reverse their diseases. 04:10 We have a country life restaurant and store seminars, 04:14 health education and so on and so forth 04:16 and it is named after 04:18 a local Indian tribe in the area 04:20 called Uchee Indians 04:22 and we actually have a Uchee Indian 04:23 who is working for us. 04:25 Oh, that's neat. Wow. 04:28 Yeah, because you mentioned then 04:29 that people come from all over the world 04:31 to attend. Correct. 04:32 Yeah, that's phenomenal. 04:34 My family and I were there, 04:36 my dad took one of the little courses back 04:37 I think in the mid '80s, 1986, '85 somewhere in there, 04:42 and I remember as a little boy I was, I think, 04:43 I'll be about 10 or 11 years of age at that point. 04:47 And I remember 04:48 that I don't know if the roads are paved, 04:51 but at that point there were, kind of a red dirt road 04:55 and they would give what we call washboard 04:57 where it's just like that. 05:00 And I remember I don't know how many years, that's been 05:01 quite a few years ago, 05:03 but I remember I enjoyed my time there 05:04 though as a little kid spending the six months, 05:06 there is a training course I think at that time 05:08 for a six month training course with my dad and my mom 05:11 and my sister, we were all there, 05:13 but it was... We had a great time there, 05:14 beautiful part of the country there for sure. 05:16 And the roads are paved now. 05:18 Okay, they are. So no more washboards. 05:20 We've had progress in a few years. 05:22 And it seems as though you guys had a really nice farm, 05:25 or I remember as a little boy there were blueberry bushes, 05:27 I don't know if they're no longer... 05:29 We still have the blueberries, 05:30 we have several blueberry patches. 05:31 We do have the farm in the center of campus. 05:33 Beautiful. 05:35 Yeah, it's a joy and we can go and pick up the produce 05:38 in the lifestyle center, 05:39 you know, we use the produce at the lifestyle center 05:41 and even at our country life restaurant 05:43 in Columbus, Georgia. 05:44 Yeah! Amen. Amen. 05:46 And there's a little chapel, is the chapel still there, 05:48 a little church that's on campus? 05:49 The chapel is still there, it has been enlarged. 05:52 So it's not as little as it was in... 05:53 In the '80s. '80s. 05:55 And so it can handle a little bit larger capacity, 05:58 and in fact the conference church 06:00 was on the campus 06:03 is in a building project currently 06:06 and they're going to be groundbreaking 06:07 I think in October. 06:09 Well, fantastic. 06:10 So I know that the founders of Uchee Pines, 06:13 tell us about them because they are not strangers to you, 06:16 those long time viewers of 3ABN, 06:18 so tell us the founders? 06:20 The founders of Uchee Pines, 06:22 the two most prominent founders that individuals recognize 06:25 are Dr. S. Calvin and Agatha Thrash. 06:28 First, Dr. Agatha had many programs on 3ABN. 06:31 She did, she did a great job. Yeah. 06:33 And they were very popular too. 06:34 Yup. 06:36 And he was an internist, she was a pathologist, 06:38 both of them working in Columbus, Georgia 06:40 and Dr. Agatha was the first one to be caught up 06:45 with the Adventist health message. 06:47 Dr. Calvin kind of dragged his feet a little bit 06:49 for a while 06:51 as I'm told by Cal, their son 06:52 and she was very interested in the message, 06:57 but recognized that 06:59 it would require a lot of sacrifice. 07:01 And they ended up doing a lot of sacrifice, 07:04 a lot of their social ties and so on and so forth 07:07 what should I say, were severed in the process. 07:10 They bought a 200 farm... 07:11 a 200 acre farm 07:13 where Uchee Pines currently is located. 07:15 They started a little health food store 07:16 in the basement of their home 07:18 and that later became... 07:20 transferred over to country life restaurant 07:22 and health food store 07:23 where we currently have it in Columbus, Georgia, 07:25 the only vegan restaurant in Columbus. 07:27 Oh, wow. Incredible. 07:29 And the work has just grown hundreds and hundreds of people 07:31 that have been trained through the years 07:33 and we have missionaries that are all over the world 07:37 and that are conducting medical missionary work, 07:40 that are training individuals, that have started institutions 07:44 and it's been an inspiring work. 07:48 Amen. 07:49 You know, a lot of sacrifice, you know, you think about it, 07:51 yeah, but what a powerful work, 07:53 the medical missionary work is. 07:54 Well, Jill, we're getting into this already 07:56 aren't we? 07:57 We should go to some music, who is our music... 07:58 We should. 08:00 Oh, you have some scripture too, don't you? 08:01 I am gonna read the scripture first, okay. 08:02 The scripture here is from Psalm 103:2. 08:07 The Bible says, "Bless the Lord, O my soul 08:09 and forget not all his benefits, 08:12 who forgives all your iniquities, 08:15 who heals all your diseases." Amen. 08:18 And I want to read verse 4, 08:19 "Who redeems your life from destruction, 08:21 who crowns you 08:23 with loving kindness and tender mercies." 08:25 What a wonderful merciful God we serve. 08:27 And I think about the sacrifice and dedication 08:30 as you were mentioning Dr. Mark 08:32 of Dr. Agatha and Dr. Calvin Thrash. 08:35 And how God gave them a vision and a dream 08:37 and how that has been walked out in reality 08:41 and the hundreds and hundreds of people's lives 08:44 probably thousands, 08:45 who have been impacted and blessed for eternity, 08:48 so praise the lord for that. 08:49 We have some music right now we want to go to 08:51 and then we'll go to the rest of our interview here. 08:54 Gerry Lynn Mendenhall is here with us 08:57 and she would be doing a song, Amazing Grace. 09:00 Amen. 09:17 Amazing Grace 09:21 How sweet the sound 09:25 That saved a wretch like me 09:33 I once was lost 09:37 But now am found 09:40 'Twas blind but now I see 09:48 'Twas grace that taught 09:52 My heart to fear 09:56 And grace, my fears 10:00 Relieved 10:04 How precious did 10:08 That grace appear 10:11 The hour I first believed 10:18 My chains are gone 10:22 I've been set free 10:26 My God, my Savior 10:30 Has ransomed me 10:34 And like a flood 10:38 His mercy reigns 10:42 Unending love 10:46 Amazing grace 10:58 The Lord has promised 11:03 Good to me 11:06 His word my hope 11:10 Secures 11:14 He will my shield 11:18 And portion be 11:21 As long as life endures 11:28 My chains are gone 11:32 I've been set free 11:36 My God, my Savior 11:40 Has ransomed me 11:43 And like a flood 11:47 His mercy reigns 11:51 Unending love 11:55 Amazing grace 11:59 My chains are gone 12:03 I've been set free 12:06 My God, my Savior 12:10 Has ransomed me 12:14 And like a flood 12:18 His mercy reigns 12:22 Unending love 12:25 Amazing grace 12:30 The earth shall soon 12:34 Dissolve like snow 12:38 The sun forbear 12:42 To shine 12:46 But God 12:48 Who called me here below 12:53 Will be 12:56 Forever mine 13:01 Will be 13:03 Forever mine 13:09 You are 13:11 Forever 13:16 Mine. 13:28 Amen, what a powerful song, Amazing Grace, 13:31 we appreciate God's amazing grace, don't we? 13:33 It's a blessing. 13:34 What a wonderful gift salvation is too. 13:36 Amen. 13:37 Thank you, Gerry Lynn and CD... 13:39 C.W. Garrett, and ET too, 13:41 we appreciate the musical talents 13:43 and using them for the Lord Jesus Christ. 13:44 What a blessing that is. 13:46 And in case you're just joining us, 13:47 we have Uchee Pines with us today 13:50 and we appreciate you being here, Dr. Mark, 13:53 Elder Livermore 13:55 and make sure I get the Duthier Jean-Pierre, 14:00 did I get that right? 14:01 Close? 14:02 Okay, but again we appreciate you all being here 14:04 and tell us, 14:06 why the health message is important? 14:08 Because we all want to feel good, 14:09 I mean, that's obvious. 14:10 I mean, all of us want to feel good, 14:12 be in good health, 14:13 but there's a spiritual connection as well. 14:14 So just tell us why it's important? 14:16 Well, you can't have a healthy mind 14:18 if you don't have a healthy body. 14:20 And you need a healthy mind 14:22 in order to be able to understand the word 14:25 and to be able to listen to the Holy Spirit 14:27 and so physical health 14:29 is very intrinsically tied up with spiritual health. 14:33 If you don't have the physical health 14:34 and then the spiritual health is lacking to a great degree. 14:39 And so, and for many individuals 14:42 if they may not be open to the spiritual aspects, 14:48 but when you touch them and their lives are changed 14:50 and their physical healing comes about 14:53 and they see that you care them... 14:54 care for them and you love them 14:56 and you're concerned about their best good 14:58 from a physical standpoint 15:00 then they're open to then what you have to say 15:03 from a spiritual standpoint as well. 15:06 So it's a great entering wedge into individual's hearts, 15:11 that's part of the importance. 15:13 Yeah, and you are the president of Uchee Pines Institute 15:16 and you've been there 15:18 for a couple of years you said, five. 15:19 Been a president for two years 15:21 and I've been at Uchee Pines for five years. 15:22 So I know you have a family, 15:24 because they are not here on the set with us, 15:25 so tell us quickly about your family? 15:26 I have a wife, and four daughters, and one son 15:29 and we have one child on the way 15:31 and we don't know whether it's a daughter or a son. 15:34 You have a busy household. Yes, we do. 15:36 That's great, well, praise the Lord. 15:39 So Elder Livermore, 15:40 I know that you are the president 15:41 of the Gulf States Conference. 15:44 And so you don't work at Uchee Pines, 15:46 but somehow you're tied in here with Uchee Pines, 15:48 so tell us a little bit about your story? 15:50 Well, Uchee Pines is actually in our conference, 15:52 so one of our pastors over there is the pastor. 15:57 But at the end of the... 15:58 So there is a connection that way. 15:59 There is a connection. That's true. 16:01 It's a good point. 16:02 But there, maybe in December, 16:05 we got talking about a ministry to retreat 16:08 and we need to go somewhere in January. 16:11 I'll tell you, 16:12 December was pretty tough on me. 16:14 I was getting pains around my heart 16:18 just any quick movement at all. 16:21 I also was really being exhausted. 16:24 I mean, I'm a pretty hyper, high energy guy, 16:27 always been 16:29 and I came out of the car from my driveway, 16:33 walked into the house and I could barely make it 16:36 and I just worked an eight hour day 16:38 and my wife looked at me, she said, "What's wrong?" 16:40 I said, "I'm just exhausted." 16:43 So, even walking from the car to the house was exhaustive. 16:46 I was just so tired, yeah, just tired, 16:48 and went right to bed. Well, that's not me at all. 16:52 So my wife said, 16:53 "I'm kind of worried about you," 16:55 you know, I said, "I'm okay, I'm okay." 16:56 And I'm the kind of guy, just I like my work, 17:00 I wasn't taking care of myself and it caught up to me. 17:04 So on this ministry of retreat, 17:07 we got talking and the treasurer said, 17:10 let's go to Uchee Pines. 17:12 For your ministry of retreat? 17:13 Yeah, and I said, "Uchee Pines? 17:17 Why would we go there?" 17:20 And the treasurer just never reneged on it 17:23 just kind of kept, 17:24 this is where we need to go 17:26 and the vice president of administration said, 17:28 "I think we should go, Dave." 17:31 So I was the last one and I was pretty like, 17:34 I don't really care to go there, you know. 17:37 But we went, 17:38 I was the last one to arrive on Sunday night, 17:44 you know, Monday they drew blood and everything 17:46 and they put you on a diet, 17:48 it's a pretty wild place, you know, 17:49 there's some, contrast showers, there's things that happened. 17:54 So, what is a contrast shower? 17:56 Someone may say, well, what's that? 17:57 Oh, I would love to show you what it is, 17:58 just tell you about it. 18:01 So contrast, obviously, there's something, 18:02 they're opposite. 18:03 Yes, it's a true contrast between hot and cold. 18:05 Okay, hot and cold water. 18:07 They put you on a chair and there's jets everywhere, 18:11 they hit you from right at your lower ankles 18:14 to your head. 18:15 So in other words you can't avoid it, the water. 18:16 Oh, no, you have your swimming suit on, 18:18 you're in a chair 18:19 and they just heat it up 18:21 and they heat it as hot as they can get it 18:23 till you say, "Okay that's good, that's good." 18:25 And then they run that for like three minutes 18:27 and then they just hit it cold for 30 seconds. 18:31 They give you a warning? 18:32 Yeah, they kind, they count it down for you, 18:34 but it's common, 18:35 let me tell you. 18:37 And, man, the first... 18:39 oh, the first one is just like what in the world... 18:43 Kind of makes you holler a little bit. 18:45 Oh yeah, yeah. 18:47 But, you know, then they, 18:48 I did a Russian sauna and, you know, 18:50 but, you know, as funny as it may sound to us, 18:56 there was an effect on me. 18:58 In like, when you're done out of that contrast shower, 19:01 the Russian sauna, 19:03 they take you back to your room and you lay down on your bed, 19:07 they wrap you up in a... 19:09 They have a plastic sheet, wrap you up in a blanket 19:12 and you rest for 30 minutes. 19:14 I was so tired when I came back to my room, 19:17 I lay down and just exhausted. 19:21 I slept, and I woke up, 19:22 and I went, "You know, I feel better, I feel better." 19:27 Was this the first day? 19:29 It was during the five days. 19:31 Okay, okay. Yeah. 19:33 So if I can interrupt for one moment, Dr. Mark, 19:35 so what would be the purpose of doing a contrast shower 19:38 or the steam bath, the Russian sauna? 19:40 How does that help your body physiologically? 19:43 Well, the hydrotherapy treatments were 19:45 like the contrast showers we're talking about 19:47 with the heat and the cold, 19:49 it helps to change or manipulate circulation, 19:51 with the heat it causes the blood vessels to dilate, 19:54 with the cold it causes them to constrict. 19:56 We know that contrast treatments like that 19:59 helped increase the circulation of white blood cells, 20:02 it helps with immune system's function. 20:05 And I have used it on a number of occasions 20:08 when I have been... 20:10 When I know that I'm starting to come down with a cold, 20:13 you get that scratchy throat, 20:14 or you're feeling that kind of achy feeling 20:17 and you know you're right on the verge. 20:19 You jump in and get into contrast shower 20:21 in about five exchanges back and forth. 20:24 And on cold, get up, wrap up in bed 20:27 and it really helps 20:29 and there's been a number of times 20:31 when I've been able to avoid an illness 20:33 from that standpoint. That's great. 20:35 And it really helps invigorate 20:36 and individuals that have like, anxiety, depression 20:39 other things like that 20:41 it also helps in that situation as well. 20:43 Okay, okay, I'm sorry, Pastor Dave. 20:45 Oh, no problem. 20:47 So those treatments are going on, 20:50 a drastic change in diet, you know, when we got there 20:53 and, you know, I put in there for weight loss 20:58 that they want a reason why you're there. 20:59 So I wrote on the application for weight loss 21:03 and I weighed 266 pounds when I got there. 21:07 Oh, wow. 21:08 And so when I'm eating, 21:11 there you are assigned like a counselor, 21:13 a private counselor. Oh, that's nice. 21:15 Very kind, 21:17 very, just couldn't have been better for me, 21:19 prayed for me so many times. 21:21 So when I'm get to eat breakfast and lunch, 21:26 he would say to me, 21:27 "Now remember why you're here, you know, 21:30 so just don't load up, just whatever food is there, 21:34 you know, be careful." 21:35 So moderation. 21:37 Yes. 21:38 And, but then no supper, no snacks, just water or tea. 21:44 So pretty drastic for me. 21:46 Was it hard? 21:49 Very hard. Yeah, very hard, 21:52 maybe not the five days I was there, 21:54 but when I left, very hard adjustment. 21:59 I'd really let myself go, 22:01 but I want to get back to the blood work 22:03 because when Dr. Sandoval sat down with me on Thursday, 22:07 I had the blood work on Monday, 22:08 he sat down with me on Thursday. 22:11 You know, I just, you know, you kind of just, 22:14 you know, I'm 66 years old, 22:16 I'm been a hard worker all my life, 22:20 you know, I'm always healthy, 22:22 I'm always kind of good frame of mind. 22:24 Yeah, you look good. Yeah. 22:25 Good now. Absolutely! 22:27 Yeah, you know, and I guess you just work hard and... 22:29 Of course. 22:31 So, I wasn't as careful 22:32 with what I was eating or exercise. 22:35 So when Dr. Sandoval sat down with me 22:38 and said, "You've got diabetes, 22:41 you've got heart trouble, 22:45 you've got kidneys that aren't working right." 22:50 Did you know that? It was a shock. 22:52 You didn't know that. Oh, no, no idea. 22:53 No clue. 22:54 So you put down weight loss originally. 22:56 Right. 22:57 And now you got diabetes. 23:00 Kidney problems, heart issues, and then there's... 23:03 And Dr. Sandoval can explain as better than I can, 23:06 but all that is terrible, 23:09 but the one that really rocked me 23:11 was a susceptibility towards Alzheimer's 23:15 and my grandmother had it and it just rubbed, 23:19 you know, didn't know any of us, 23:20 didn't know my mom or anything at the end. 23:22 And that's always been in the back of my mind, 23:24 you know, and I had read 23:26 that Alzheimer's can skip a generation 23:30 and then come back. 23:31 So we've talked this, three boys, 23:33 we've talked that, you know, mom didn't get it, you know, 23:36 so when he showed me that, 23:39 I'll tell you, it just took my breath away. 23:42 Oh yeah. Of course. 23:44 Because I've spent, you know, my life trying to learn, 23:45 you know, I don't want to lose what I've learned, 23:49 so I had to leave after five days. 23:53 Dr. Sandoval tried to talk me in this thing longer. 23:56 I wished I could have, I just couldn't, 23:59 so I called my wife on the way home 24:01 and I just said, 24:03 "I've got lots to talk to you about, 24:04 but let's wait and talk face to face." 24:07 So 90 miles I drove, didn't get on the phone, 24:11 I just really prayed 24:13 and thought about what am I gonna do. 24:16 Yeah, that's heavy news. Yes, it is. 24:18 Very heavy, 24:19 but the one thing there was hope in it 24:21 because everything I had could be reversed. 24:23 What? Everything. 24:25 Someone at home is saying, "There is no way." Wow! 24:28 I'll tell you, I'm a living proof 24:29 and you can reverse it fast. 24:31 So you're talking diabetes, heart issues, kidney issues, 24:35 susceptibility towards the Alzheimer's. 24:36 Yeah, yeah. It's incredible. 24:38 You said all can be reversed. Right. 24:40 And so, you know, 24:43 the blood work and the exam that gave me 24:46 was very thorough, very good. 24:49 So I came home with the idea 24:50 that I'll do whatever Dr. Sandoval asked me to do. 24:53 I'm gonna do it all. 24:55 I'm not gonna, 24:56 "Oh, I wish I could have this, I wish I could..." 24:57 I'm not going to do that, 24:59 I'm going to do what he told me to do. 25:00 So, I took out all my, 25:02 you know, they give you a cookbook 25:03 and they really help you, 25:04 you have everything there to be successful. 25:06 So I took out all that, gave it to my wife 25:09 and I stayed out of the kitchen for three months. 25:11 Oh, wow. 25:12 I never walked to the kitchen, 25:13 three months. 25:15 Because, what's the... 25:16 I just was afraid, I would grab something, 25:17 you know, I was kind of a grazer, you know, 25:19 open the refrigerator graze in there 25:22 whatever is there, you know, just going down, 25:24 you know, so... 25:27 And then I did 25:28 and this is a very critical part 25:30 and the Uchee Pines emphasize this is 25:33 along with a good diet you have to exercise. 25:35 So I started walking, you know, half a mile, 25:39 got up to a mile, got up to two miles. 25:42 Wow. 25:43 Got up to three, 25:45 I walk about between three and four miles every day now. 25:48 That's great. 25:50 I missed this morning, but I'll catch it tonight, 25:51 I'll do tonight. 25:53 And I just feel the difference. 25:55 Right now I weigh, the last time I was on a scale, 25:58 I was 213 from 266. 26:01 Oh, praise the Lord. 26:02 And that's from January 8th till today. 26:05 Wow, oh, that's just a few months. 26:07 Yeah, yeah just a few months, 26:08 and I will tell you, you know, you asked me if it was hard. 26:14 Very hard in the beginning because the adjustment, 26:16 you know, you have to be like you can get full so easy, 26:19 you're just eating something 26:21 and you go, "I didn't want to eat that, you know." 26:22 So I was really careful, 26:25 but now it's more manageable hunger, 26:28 where that ravaging hunger is just, you know, 26:31 it's just crazy, I got to be so careful. 26:33 But now it's more managed, 26:35 sure I get hungry, I mean, I'm human, 26:36 you know, I get hungry, but it isn't... 26:38 I don't want to, 26:39 I'm not going to blow what I'm doing, you know, 26:42 because I want to go out and eat Thanksgiving dinner 26:44 or something, you know what I mean, 26:46 I want to be careful. 26:47 So it's been pretty good. 26:50 Yeah. Amen. 26:51 So have you had some blood work follow up, 26:53 have you checked on that diabetes 26:55 and the kidney issue and the heart and all of that? 26:57 Great question, I have a doctor in Montgomery, 27:00 that is my regular doctor that I go, 27:02 I get a couple prescriptions from him a year and stuff. 27:05 And I just saw him, 27:07 and I sent Dr. Sandoval 27:09 the blood work that he did for me. 27:13 Here's what that doctor said to me in Montgomery. 27:16 He said, "Mr. Livermore, I want to congratulate you." 27:22 And I kind of looked at him like, you know what I mean. 27:23 and he goes, 27:25 I don't have many people walk in here 27:26 and have lost 50 pounds since I seen him last. 27:29 And he says, "You're doing terrific." 27:31 Praise God. 27:32 Yeah, very, very good 27:33 and I sent the blood work to Dr. Sandoval 27:37 and he said, 27:39 "Boy, everything looks good," you know. 27:40 Really? 27:41 Yeah, on the blood work there's no evidence of diabetes 27:45 and some of the heart, 27:48 you know, markers with cholesterol levels 27:50 and that kind of stuff are looking very good. 27:51 And so it's, yeah, that's definitely a blessing 27:55 and your fasting blood sugars, 27:57 you had several that were in the 80s, 28:00 last time we had talked 28:01 and so it's looking really good. 28:03 Amen. Amen. 28:04 It's neat, isn't it 28:05 how the body actually, 28:07 you know, because sometimes I think 28:08 in the society we tend to think, 28:09 "Oh, boy here we go," 28:11 so then you start taking a lot of different medicines 28:12 which I know medicine has its place 28:14 for certain things. 28:15 But still, you know, we just start 28:16 and then we need to take medicines 28:18 to counteract the effects of that medicine 28:19 and then it becomes, 28:20 let's see all the different types of pill bottles. 28:22 And there are some people that I know that, 28:23 I think they take maybe like 28:25 15 to 18 different pills every morning 28:27 that are counteracting different things. 28:29 So it's encouraging to know 28:31 that a lot of this stuff can be reversed, 28:33 and it's interesting 28:34 because Duthier, right? Got that, pronounced right. 28:36 You know, we're talking, 28:38 you're part of the educational part 28:39 of Uchee Pines, 28:40 but what I'm noticing here 28:42 is that it's just not something that's just like, 28:43 okay, a crash thing for five days and phew! 28:46 I can go back to eating candy bars 28:47 and it's a lifestyle. 28:49 Yes, the goal is 28:51 we are seeking to educate people 28:53 on how they can live a healthier lifestyle, 28:55 so that when you leave, 28:56 you have the tools that you can use, 28:58 that you can live that lifestyle continuously. 29:00 See, and that's the key, it's a lifestyle, 29:02 because sometimes it's like, 29:03 I'm just on this one month diet or I'm on a three month diet 29:06 and then phew, you know, I do whatever 29:08 and then I'm back to my old ways, 29:10 it's the key is the lifestyle. 29:13 We have some pictures, don't we? 29:14 Oh, yeah we do. So, okay. 29:16 So let's take a look, 29:17 I think we have some before and after pictures. 29:19 I think so. Okay. 29:20 So this is you six months ago? Wow! 29:23 Yeah, this would have been... Let's see probably in December. 29:30 Just before you went to Uchee Pines. 29:31 Yes. 29:32 Okay, all right. 29:34 And this is you. 29:36 Yeah, that's actually in December, I'm going... 29:38 I'm in the airport, 29:40 I'm going to Cuba on a mission trip. 29:42 I can see you've lost a lot of weight. 29:43 Yeah. Absolutely. 29:44 There till now. 29:46 And this is still before you met Dr. Sandoval. 29:47 That's my favorite position at home. 29:49 It looks like an easy chair. 29:51 Yeah. It is. 29:52 Here I'm with one of my evangelism friends 29:54 and you can see I was getting pretty big. 29:56 Wow! Yeah. Oh, yeah. 29:57 I can see that. 29:59 There, I'm in Cuba with a couple of speakers. 30:04 Okay. 30:05 Nice. 30:07 Wow! There you're with Dr. Sandoval. 30:09 You know, look at that, you know, you look at that. 30:11 Isn't that amazing? 30:12 When you look at that, it's just like 30:14 it's almost probably hard to believe, isn't it? 30:15 That's me. 30:16 It is and, you know, 30:18 I had no idea of the impact 30:21 that I could have on the conference, 30:24 on the office. 30:25 We've sent several now to Uchee Pines. 30:27 Everybody's been helped tremendously. 30:30 I have a dream of sending every one of our pastors there, 30:33 I like us to go together and have a real retreat. 30:35 Oh! That's great. 30:37 And I think it could benefit us all so much, so. 30:39 Amen. 30:41 So the ripple effect, you know, I just want to commend you 30:43 because it takes a lot of courage as a leader, 30:46 as a conference president to be able to say, 30:48 "Hey, I'm struggling here and I have an issue here. 30:51 And this is where God has helped me 30:53 and what God has done in my life." 30:55 So praise the Lord, 30:56 and thank you for being willing to share. 30:58 You know what God's done in your life 31:00 because there's no powerful, more powerful witness 31:03 than your own personal testimony 31:04 of what God has done. Yeah. 31:06 And I think what your testimony does too is 31:07 it gives a lot of hope. Yes. 31:09 Because you're not the only one, you know, 31:11 there're many that are sitting right now at home, 31:14 you know, thinking, "Man, I've got a terrible report 31:16 from the doctor. 31:17 I can barely make it from my car 31:19 to my living room couch 31:21 without feeling out of breath or so tired." 31:23 And here you were there just a few months ago, 31:26 and now you said how many miles are you walking? 31:28 Three or four? 31:29 Well, I was just in Europe, 31:30 and I walked in nine days, I walked 80.7 miles. 31:35 Say that again, how many? 31:36 It's true. It's true. 31:38 I got that on my phone, I can prove it. 31:39 Okay, okay. How many miles? 31:41 In nine days, I walked 80.7 miles. 31:43 Yeah, it's incredible. 31:44 And really my legs came back so fast. 31:47 This is a good point for us to cover. 31:49 You're never too old to start a plant based diet. 31:53 You know, I eat 70% raw, 31:54 you know, so I'm careful in the morning, 31:56 have good steel cut oat meal in the morning 31:59 along with my Granny Smith apples 32:01 that I was recommended to have, 32:03 a tablespoon of peanut butter with it, 32:05 some raspberries, black berries, blueberries. 32:07 Nice. 32:09 And then in the afternoon, 32:10 I have my vegetables, I always eat them first. 32:14 The raw is so good as, try to get 70%, 30% raw, 32:19 and then have an entrée of some sort, 32:21 but no milk, no cheese, no eggs, 32:23 nothing like that, haven't touched it. 32:25 And my body went on tilt. 32:27 I mean, when I started this, you know. 32:28 I was a big egg eater and cheese 32:30 and kind of replace the meat. 32:33 So, but oh, I feel so much better, 32:36 I can't tell you. 32:38 Wow! You look good. 32:39 You know, you have a sparkle in your eye, good color. 32:42 Thank you. You just got a lot of energy. 32:44 Amen, it's neat to see what God has done. 32:46 I love the Lord and I love this work, 32:49 and I want to be as healthy as I can to do it well. 32:50 Amen. Amen. 32:52 So Dr. Sandoval, I'm thinking here too 32:53 because I know you're gonna have some people 32:55 because you're a doctor and know, 32:56 so you want to be careful 32:57 because you could have someone at home say, 32:59 "Okay, I'm not going to go to any institute. 33:00 I'm just going to get rid of all my medicines. 33:02 I'm going to jump on a contrast shower." 33:04 And then you don't want someone to just have a heart attack, 33:06 you know, because so tell us a little recommendation 33:09 along those lines what someone should do. 33:10 Well, if somebody is taking medication, 33:13 then obviously work with your physician 33:14 or the provider who prescribed the medication 33:17 before you make any drastic changes. 33:20 Amen. 33:21 One of the things that we do 33:23 frequently at the center is fasting. 33:27 So we'll have individuals fast for a day to maybe three days. 33:30 You were only there for five days 33:31 so we didn't have you go through 33:33 the full three days, but... 33:34 The benefit of fasting? The benefit of fasting is vast. 33:37 There's a lot of research coming out with fasting 33:39 and showing that it has effects on the immune system, 33:42 72 hours fast, looking at, helping to reset 33:44 some of the stem cells in the immune system. 33:47 So potential implications with cancer autoimmune diseases 33:50 and so on and so forth. 33:52 Even as little as 12 hours fasting, 33:55 there's benefits that 33:56 the research shows from that standpoint. 33:58 And so there are some good benefits with that, 34:03 but you know, with a fast, it's, 34:07 it can be a little bit trial some, right? 34:10 But there are good benefits, 34:12 you know, benefits associated with it. 34:15 And at the center with the program 34:22 just to change direction just slightly, 34:25 when we have individuals 34:26 coming into the center, there's a lot of... 34:28 The lifestyle center? 34:30 Yeah, the lifestyle center, 34:31 there's a lot of things to be overcome. 34:33 You know, there's a lot of patterns 34:35 that individuals have been having 34:37 as far as their lack of exercise, 34:39 and you know, dietary patterns and so on and so forth. 34:41 And so what we seek to do is to educate individuals 34:45 how to live 34:46 and how to live the healthiest way possible 34:47 within the context of the disease that they have. 34:50 And in doing that then it devolves 34:54 upon the individuals when they go home to... 34:57 Yes, to follow through. Yeah, to follow through... 34:59 And to continue what they've learned. 35:01 And the individuals that do that 35:03 most consistently are the ones that we see 35:05 such miraculous changes in their life 35:07 and, you know, and the healing processes 35:10 that come about from that standpoint, 35:12 whether it's heart disease, whether it's diabetes, cancer, 35:17 autoimmune conditions, pain syndromes, obesity, 35:22 you know, overweight and that kind of stuff. 35:24 And it's truly a blessing to be there, 35:26 but the key component 35:27 that everybody must have, Jesus. 35:30 Amen. That's right. 35:32 Amen. 35:33 Just got to hinge upon Jesus because only He can give 35:35 the strength to individuals to have the consistency 35:39 that they need in their life 35:41 in order to maintain that new, not diet, the lifestyle. 35:45 Yes. 35:47 So I know we need to go to Duthier, 35:48 and we need to talk about the educational system, 35:50 but before we do that, 35:51 you were talking about the fast. 35:53 Can you tell our friends at home, 35:54 what a fast would entail? 35:55 Does that mean, absolutely no food? 35:57 No water, no food. What does that mean? 36:00 How much food? How little? 36:01 A fast is... 36:03 It can be done in number of different ways. 36:06 Most of the research is looking at individuals drinking water, 36:10 but they are not eating any calorie containing foods 36:13 at the same time. 36:15 So you might be able to use some, 36:16 you know, herbal teas without sugar 36:18 and other types of things included in it, 36:20 but pretty much water that an individual is drinking 36:24 and the benefits associated with that. 36:26 But if you go on a fast, 36:27 and getting back to the point from earlier, 36:30 if you're on medication 36:31 and you're on diabetes medication 36:33 and you try to fast at home without... 36:35 That's danger. 36:36 Right, you could kill yourself... 36:38 Because the medication could cause your blood sugar levels 36:40 to go too low and you could actually die. 36:42 So you want to work with your physician, 36:43 you got to work with your provider. 36:45 Come to Uchee Pines. Well, yes. 36:47 Go to the lifestyle center. 36:48 We have health care professionals 36:50 who're working with, you know, with individuals. 36:51 And so if we're gonna be taking people off with medication. 36:55 Well, then we know what the medications are, 36:57 how they respond, and so on and so forth. 36:59 And then we have a controlled environment, 37:01 and we're monitoring their vital signs 37:02 and so on and so forth along the way. 37:05 But if you're doing it at home, again work with your provider, 37:08 and if you make any significant changes, 37:10 let them know what you're doing 37:11 because they might need to modify the medications. 37:14 If you're not on any medications, 37:15 well, you can make some pretty significant changes 37:18 without a lot of worry. 37:19 But if you're on them, work with a provider. 37:22 Amen. 37:23 Well, that's great to get that good balance there, yeah. 37:25 Because again the body goes through 37:26 traumatic changes in that time. 37:29 We need to get to Duthier. 37:30 Yeah, and tell us about the educational part 37:32 because you have the lifestyle center, 37:34 then you have some sessions, 37:36 correct, of actual training people. 37:38 Yes, we do. 37:39 We currently have two courses, our Lifestyle Educator course, 37:43 and our Lifestyle Counselor course. 37:45 What's the difference between them? 37:47 Now a Lifestyle Educator of course, 37:48 what we seek to is teach our trainees 37:50 how they can be educators. 37:52 Throughout their course they're learning 37:54 how to give presentations. 37:56 They're learning the ins and outs 37:57 of anatomy and physiology, 37:59 things that will help them to be efficient 38:01 in giving these presentations. 38:03 So you would, you're talking like 38:04 someone from the church could say, 38:06 "Hey, I want to be an educator in my church." 38:07 True, yes. Okay. 38:08 So they can come and get some training. 38:10 True, and what we're trying to do is, 38:11 as many trainees as we can get trained, 38:13 they can go back to their churches 38:15 and help their churches to be training centers... 38:17 Educating their members, helping them 38:19 to have the same understanding that they do, 38:21 so that we all can get this work done 38:23 because this is only an ends to a means 38:25 is presenting the gospel. 38:27 Yes. 38:28 And then we have our Lifestyle Counselor course 38:30 in which our trainees are working, 38:33 learning to work more one on one with persons, 38:35 for example, like Brother Livermore. 38:37 And they're learning to explain to them their diet plan, 38:39 explaining to them their Ts, explaining to them 38:42 why they're living, 38:43 how, why are they eating the way they're eating, 38:45 and how is it gonna help them with their lifestyle. 38:48 And we are also having stress management classes with them, 38:51 hands on nutrition classes with them. 38:54 As Dr. Mark, we have medical professionals there 38:56 who are giving medical lectures, 38:58 all that's encompassed in the program. 39:00 So like we said, they can have tools that they can use, 39:03 so that they can live a healthier lifestyle 39:05 to God's glory and honor. 39:07 So again, just really briefly that explain you have twos, 39:09 because some have may have just said, 39:10 "Okay, I didn't quite catch what he says." 39:11 So you have two, you have the counselor. 39:13 Yes. Which is the one year? 39:14 The Lifestyle Educator is going to be our one year course. 39:17 And then Lifestyle Educator will be our two year course... 39:20 Oh, Lifestyle Counselor, excuse me. 39:22 The Counselor's, okay. 39:23 Is the two year? Yes. 39:24 Okay. 39:26 And you would do classes like A&P. 39:27 You do A&P and nutrition. 39:29 Nutrition and we also go through... 39:30 Hydrotherapy? Hydrotherapy. 39:33 We also try and incorporate the chapel classes also 39:37 which go through some sanctuary, Daniel, Revelation 39:41 because we want them to be spiritually strong 39:43 as well as health, 39:44 they have that health strength also, 39:46 so that they have the balance in both areas. 39:48 Okay. 39:49 Now, it's all encompassed in this acronym called 39:53 "Masters Program" 39:55 which stands for medical missionary, 39:57 agriculture, self-supporting, true education, 40:00 revival and spiritual reformation. 40:02 We see that all these components are essential, 40:05 so that trainees can be effective 40:07 wherever they go, whether it be 40:08 the mission field, whether the workforce, 40:10 we just want them to be adequately trained 40:12 so that they can be as effective 40:15 as they can be to God's glory and honor. 40:16 Amen. Dr. Mark? 40:18 And another key component 40:20 that we're looking at with the new program, 40:22 the master's program that is, "Trades Training". 40:26 So not just training the... 40:29 Having the trainees learning about medical missionary work, 40:32 also we're gonna be doing canvassing 40:34 that'll be a part of the program as well, 40:36 but also giving them a trades experience 40:40 so that they can like Paul, have a tent making. 40:44 That's great. It's important. 40:45 Yeah, capacity to be able to support themselves 40:48 and be self-supporting missionaries 40:49 wherever they go and whether that's from, 40:52 you know, something from a, 40:54 you know, from the print shop and design, 40:56 whether it's from housekeeping as an industry, 41:00 whether it's looking at agriculture 41:05 or whether it's in retail management. 41:09 We have a number of different industries 41:11 that are available for students 41:14 and as we get more industries directors 41:17 for other different industries 41:18 and they can expand from that standpoint. 41:20 So that the students have 41:22 not just the medical missionary training 41:23 and the spiritual training, but they also have a trade 41:26 that they're trained for as well 41:28 to help them with self support. 41:29 Yeah, for as to fund themselves so they can live, yeah, to... 41:33 So I know that you said there's a one year, 41:36 and the two years. 41:38 So you obviously have dormitories there. 41:39 True. Yes. 41:40 And I know that there's somebody at home 41:42 that's saying, "Hey, I think I want to do that." 41:43 So we're gonna go to an address break here in about 41:45 over five to seven minutes. 41:47 You can get their contact information 41:48 because on the website, 41:49 I'm sure is where you would get the most information as cost. 41:52 Yes. Right, and all the details. 41:54 Yes, also and they can find their cost, 41:58 they can find the information 42:00 if they're struggling to pay the... 42:02 We also have a work study program 42:03 which enables our students to go 42:05 and work for a portion of their tuition 42:08 and at the same time 42:09 they can receive a skill that they can use. 42:11 For me personally, I was able to, 42:13 you know, being a young bachelor, 42:14 I didn't really know how to cook. 42:16 So when I came to Uchee Pines, I had the blessing opportunity 42:19 to work in our country life restaurant. 42:22 Then which I learned how to cook, 42:23 it's kind of like, you know... 42:25 So you get the opportunity to work 42:26 in the one in Columbus? 42:27 Yeah. That's great. 42:29 So I started with soups. Sure. 42:31 It's pretty easy, right? 42:32 And then from soups, you know, 42:34 we've worked our way up to entrees 42:35 and from there onward it kind of helped 42:37 in making more comfortable in cooking. 42:39 So that was added blessing 42:41 and it could be an added blessing 42:42 to whoever it may be, whether they're one, 42:44 it's two in one, two for one, we could say. 42:47 They learn, they got to pay for a portion of their tuition 42:50 and at the same time get a skill 42:51 that they can use it also. 42:52 Yeah, you have to ask Duthier about his bread. 42:55 So you're a baker now. 42:57 Well, being at Uchee Pines, 42:59 God has given me the desire to make bread 43:04 and, you know, through trial and error 43:07 as I always tell people, me and my fellow housemate, 43:10 we went through a lot of bad loafs of bread 43:13 before we got the good one. 43:16 Some of them didn't taste so good. 43:18 Oh, were they hard, did they fall? 43:19 You know, you have varying issues, you know. 43:22 Some are missing some spaces, 43:24 some are little moisture than others, 43:26 but you finally get that loaf that's just right, 43:29 has the proper flavor and texture 43:31 just massages the palate, yeah. 43:33 Amen. That sounds good. 43:34 You can come and cook for us at 3ABN, 43:36 we need to eat that bread. 43:38 That's wonderful. 43:39 So you also have a five day, like a short seminar, right? 43:42 Yes, we have seminars, 43:45 we offer three seminars during the year. 43:47 Currently, we have in the last full week of March, 43:51 we have the preventive medicine and natural remedies seminar 43:55 and that one we have a lot of health lecturers, 43:57 we have hands on tracks in the afternoons 44:01 whether it's agriculture or vegan cooking 44:04 or hydrotherapy, massage, whatever it might be. 44:08 We have those hands on classes, it runs from a Sunday evening 44:12 through Thursday evening. 44:14 That way you can, 44:16 it doesn't take up a full weekend 44:18 and a lot of information in a very short period of time, 44:21 a great spiritual atmosphere as well. 44:23 We always have somebody in doing spiritual talks 44:25 in the mornings and in the evenings. 44:27 And it's just been a blessing and a tradition at Uchee Pines 44:31 for the last 40 years. 44:32 Wow! 44:34 And we're going to have a prophecy 44:37 in medical missionary, camp meeting 44:40 which will run through Sunday evening through Sabbath. 44:42 That's in the fall? 44:43 That will be in the fall, it'll be in September 44:45 and typically the last full week in September, 44:48 but check the website to see, 44:50 sometimes it varies by a week or so. 44:52 And, you know, having speakers coming in 44:55 and looking at where we're in prophetic time, 44:58 looking at medical missionary work 45:00 in context with prophecy... 45:03 Looking at helping to encourage the medical missionaries 45:07 and just having a time where we can come together 45:10 and correspond with each other. 45:14 And then we will also have a true education seminar 45:18 which usually is in the later fall, 45:21 early winter. 45:23 Wow. Yeah, that's fantastic. 45:24 You keep busy. Yes. 45:26 That's for sure, yeah. 45:27 So tell me about the lifestyle then, the center, 45:30 I know it's relatively new and you're in a... 45:33 Elder Livermore, you're in a five day program, right? 45:36 But there are different length programs, correct? 45:39 Because they want you to stay longer. 45:40 Right. Yeah. 45:42 We have, we typically have a 17 day program. 45:44 So every three weeks, we have a new session 45:46 that's beginning throughout the year. 45:47 And we generally have individuals 45:49 coming for the 17 days, 45:51 but sometimes they can't come for that long 45:52 so they come for 10 days, 11 days, 5 days 45:55 or so, like Dave did. 45:57 And so, we have that program, 46:01 we have the new lifestyle center. 46:03 It was dedicated in 2010, you know, beautiful place 46:09 and surroundings and settings, individuals come in, 46:12 we have a welcome meeting on Sunday evening, 46:14 Monday morning, you're getting blood work done. 46:17 And meeting with the providers, we put together 46:21 an individualized plan for individuals 46:24 and it includes, of course, diet and exercise, 46:26 hydrotherapy, other natural remedies 46:29 and, you know, sunshine, fresh air, 46:31 and so on and so forth, positive thinking, 46:35 and then you have medical lectures, 46:37 you've got cooking classes, 46:39 you've even got bread making class. 46:41 Yeah. That's exciting. I'm excited about that. 46:44 And then you've got treatments, 46:47 the program, the schedule's pretty full. 46:48 I think you'd agree, David, but the schedule's pretty full. 46:52 And lots of education that happens, 46:56 you meet with the providers twice a week 46:59 Mondays and Thursdays. 47:01 And we review the blood work, we make changes to, 47:06 you know, what's going on, 47:07 and responding to individuals needs 47:10 and how they're responding to the program as well. 47:12 And we have, again people coming from all over the place 47:15 as far as Japan and there's a lot of, 47:18 there's some people that come from Europe 47:19 and we have a lot that come from the Caribbean 47:21 and then from the States, of course, as well. 47:23 And it's just a tremendous blessing. 47:27 One of the testimonies that people give, 47:30 one of the most frequent testimonies 47:32 that people give is that this is a place on earth 47:36 where it feels like you're amongst angels 47:38 and it's kind of like a piece of heaven. 47:41 Now of course, all of us working 47:43 there know that we're real people. 47:45 You know, real people have real problems, okay. 47:47 Absolutely. 47:48 And so we kind of look at each other, 47:49 and scratch our heads, and we go, "Praise the Lord," 47:51 because Lord you have to be the one that's, 47:53 you know, that's doing that and making it happen, 47:55 but it's truly, truly a blessing 47:58 to be able to pray with individuals 48:01 and we begin everything with prayer. 48:03 I mean you began an interview and you pray with them, 48:06 and you end an interview and you pray with them, 48:07 you begin a treatment you pray with them, 48:10 you know, you end the treatment you pray with them. 48:11 And the Lord has taught me and has taught us 48:17 so much over these last few years about 48:19 how to reach individuals from the heart. 48:21 That's right. 48:22 Because that's really, really the important part. 48:25 Yes, you can change the diet and lifestyle. 48:27 Yes, you can make at least temporary changes, 48:31 but if the heart's not captured and if it's not changed, 48:34 then you haven't reached anything of real lasting work. 48:38 That's right. 48:39 Right, you can have, you know, centers 48:41 that last a few more years 48:43 and then die and are lost forever. 48:45 We're not interested in that. Yeah. 48:46 What we're interested in individuals 48:48 who are coming to healing physically, 48:50 but healing spiritually as well. 48:52 Their lives may be transformed 48:55 and might be lived to the glory and honor of God. 48:57 Amen. And it's just a joy, really. 49:00 It's just a joy to be able to work with the people 49:04 and the individuals and see the transformation 49:07 that the Lord brings about... 49:08 Isn't that neat? Consistently, you know. 49:09 You know, it's neat too because I think, 49:11 you know, Uchee Pines do, 49:12 you know, you have the lifestyle center, 49:14 but then you're also, Duthier, training others to go out 49:17 and affect others positively too in health. 49:19 And that's great because sometimes it could be like, 49:21 "Okay, now we don't want to train anybody else 49:22 because we want everybody to come to, 49:24 you know, Uchee Pines." 49:25 But, you know, you can't take care of everybody. 49:27 So I like that ripple effect. 49:29 It just grows and grows and grows. 49:30 Absolutely. 49:32 So Elder Livermore, I'm thinking there's someone 49:33 I know we're getting ready to go to the address break, 49:34 but there's somebody at home 49:36 that is where you were a number of months ago, 49:39 they're discouraged. 49:40 What would you tell to that individual right now? 49:43 What would you do to give them some hope? 49:46 You know, I would tell them 49:47 that you're never too old to begin 49:51 and to go to Uchee Pines if you can. 49:54 You know, there're other institutes 49:55 throughout the country if you can't come over to our 49:58 where we're in the south, but give yourself a chance. 50:01 Amen. 50:03 I think we beat ourselves up, we all work hard, 50:05 you know, we're not as careful, we, you know, 50:08 we don't have time to eat. 50:09 So we went through a drive through that kind of thing, 50:11 but it does get away from us. 50:13 Yeah. 50:14 And the blessing that I have is that it was reversible. 50:18 So, you know, I'm getting up there in age, 50:23 if I didn't do it at this time, what would have happened? 50:27 And, you know, I lose 10-15 years of my life 50:29 that I can spend loving my wife, my kids, 50:32 and, you know, enjoy retirement, be healthy, 50:35 but it's just like, it's a lifestyle, 50:37 it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. 50:38 Amen. Amen. 50:40 So try it. 50:41 And he doesn't look it, does he? 50:43 But he has actually grandchildren, 50:46 and he also has great grandchildren, 50:48 looks good, doesn't he? 50:49 Praise the Lord, for what he has done 50:51 in your life in a short period of time 50:53 and before, you know, a young person, 50:55 you know, like myself, you know, you can, 50:58 you know, you can get busy. 50:59 You know, the stresses and different things. 51:01 And I might not necessarily be overweight, 51:03 but, you know, there's different stresses 51:04 and it's really, you mention the connection 51:06 with the Lord Jesus Christ is first and foremost, 51:08 but then it's just taking care of our day to day life. 51:11 Amen. That's right. 51:12 Well, what we wanted to do right now 51:13 is going to the address roll for Uchee Pines. 51:16 We thank you all for being here, 51:17 and we'll come back at the end 51:18 with a closing thought from them, 51:20 but I've just been so blessed, 51:21 so blessed hearing what God is doing in 51:23 and through this ministry. 51:25 And we want to encourage you, 51:26 if you're struggling with your health, 51:28 if you need to go to a lifestyle, 51:29 here's the way that you can contact Uchee Pines, 51:32 if you want to go to the lifestyle center, 51:33 if you want them to come speak at your church 51:36 or in your community, if you want to go to school... 51:39 For the one year, the two year, the five day seminar, 51:42 if you're interested in the camp meeting, 51:44 any of those things that they have to offer. 51:46 If you would like to financially support, 51:48 here is how you can do just that. 51:52 Millions in the western world suffer and die 51:54 from lifestyle illnesses every year. 51:57 But Uchee Pine's Lifestyle Center 51:59 is helping their patients to improve their health 52:01 one choice at a time. 52:04 If you would like to find out 52:05 more about their lifestyle program, 52:07 visit their website, UcheePines.org. 52:11 That's UcheePines.org, or give them a call 52:16 at area code 334-855-3374. 52:22 That's area code 334-855-3374, 52:27 or write them at 30 Uchee Pines Road, 52:30 Seale, Alabama 36875. |
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