I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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We are so
thankful that you joined us
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as you do each and every day
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and, you know, we
really appreciate your support,
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your financial support,
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your prayers for
the ministry of 3ABN,
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because it's
definitely a team effort.
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Then of course,
the Lord Jesus Christ
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supplies all of our needs,
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but we appreciate you
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and it's always a blessing
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when we get to
meet you in person
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because I mean,
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what we're doing right
now, we're looking at you
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through the television
screen, through this camera,
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but we're basically
looking at a piece of glass.
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So it's always nice when
we get to meet you in person,
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but if we're all
faithful to the calling
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that Jesus Christ has
put on each one of our lives,
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someday if we
don't meet on this earth,
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we'll get to meet in heaven,
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what a glorious day
that will be, won't it?
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You know, I don't know
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if you paid
attention to that song,
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I love that song
as the open plays,
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I want to spend my
life mending broken people,
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so that mending can be what,
emotional, spiritual, physical,
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like your health
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and we're going
to be talking about
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some health today, aren't we?
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Good segues really, I like that.
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Did you like that?
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So that's right, God
wants us to be in health.
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That's right.
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Even as our soul prospers,
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He cares about us
spiritually and emotionally,
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but physically as well
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and our special guest today,
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the ministry is no
stranger to you at 3ABN,
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but some of the faces here
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associated with this
ministry might be new
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and it's our
privilege to introduce you
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at home to our
special friends here.
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We have Uchee Pines
Institute with us here today
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and we're gonna be
talking about health.
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We have Dr. Mark Sandoval
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and you are the president
of Uchee Pines Institute.
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Correct.
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And thank you so
much for being here.
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It's a privilege to have you.
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How long have you been president
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or how long have
you been at Uchee Pines?
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I have been at Uchee
Pines for five years now
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and I've been president
for the last two years.
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Okay, nice.
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And sitting next to
you is, Elder David,
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or Elder Dave Livermore,
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you are the president of
the Gulf States Conference
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and it's a privilege and
joy to have you here as well.
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Thank you, it's
great to be with you.
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So somebody at
home may be saying,
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"Oh, so he's
president of Gulf States,"
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so how does that
tie in with Uchee Pines,
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we're going to get to a
really neat story here, yeah,
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so it's a great
testimony for sure.
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And sitting next to you is
Brother Duthier Jean-Pierre
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and I said I'd
only say his name once.
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Excellent! Good job.
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I'm probably going
to mess it up after that
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and, Brother Duthier,
we're so glad you're here.
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Thank you, thank
you, it's a privilege.
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And what is your
role at Uchee Pines?
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I'm the assistant
education director
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at Uchee Pines currently.
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Okay, that's wonderful.
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Yeah, fantastic, you know,
so before we get to the music,
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we should probably find out
what Uchee Pines is, you know,
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because Uchee Pines is
kind of is unique name,
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Uchee, Uchee Pines,
obviously pine trees,
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but tell us where Uchee Pines is
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and a little bit
about what Uchee Pines is?
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Well, Uchee Pines
is right on the border
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of Alabama and Georgia,
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we're about two
hours from Atlanta.
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And we are a
missionary institution
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that trains medical missionaries
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and we also have
a lifestyle center
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where individuals come to
us from all over the world
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to learn how to live,
reverse their diseases.
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We have a country life
restaurant and store seminars,
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health education
and so on and so forth
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and it is named after
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a local Indian tribe in the area
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called Uchee Indians
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and we actually
have a Uchee Indian
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who is working for us.
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Oh, that's neat. Wow.
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Yeah, because you mentioned then
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that people come
from all over the world
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to attend. Correct.
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Yeah, that's phenomenal.
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My family and I were there,
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my dad took one of
the little courses back
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I think in the mid '80s,
1986, '85 somewhere in there,
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and I remember as a
little boy I was, I think,
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I'll be about 10 or 11
years of age at that point.
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And I remember
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that I don't know
if the roads are paved,
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but at that point there
were, kind of a red dirt road
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and they would give
what we call washboard
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where it's just like that.
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And I remember I don't
know how many years, that's been
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quite a few years ago,
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but I remember I
enjoyed my time there
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though as a little kid
spending the six months,
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there is a training
course I think at that time
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for a six month training
course with my dad and my mom
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and my sister,
we were all there,
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but it was... We
had a great time there,
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beautiful part of the
country there for sure.
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And the roads are paved now.
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Okay, they are. So
no more washboards.
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We've had
progress in a few years.
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And it seems as though you
guys had a really nice farm,
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or I remember as a little
boy there were blueberry bushes,
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I don't know if
they're no longer...
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We still have the blueberries,
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we have several
blueberry patches.
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We do have the farm
in the center of campus.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah, it's a joy and we
can go and pick up the produce
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in the lifestyle center,
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you know, we use the
produce at the lifestyle center
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and even at our
country life restaurant
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in Columbus, Georgia.
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Yeah! Amen. Amen.
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And there's a little chapel,
is the chapel still there,
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a little church
that's on campus?
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The chapel is still
there, it has been enlarged.
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So it's not as
little as it was in...
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In the '80s. '80s.
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And so it can handle a
little bit larger capacity,
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and in fact the
conference church
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was on the campus
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is in a building
project currently
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and they're going
to be groundbreaking
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I think in October.
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Well, fantastic.
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So I know that the
founders of Uchee Pines,
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tell us about them because
they are not strangers to you,
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those long time viewers of 3ABN,
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so tell us the founders?
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The founders of Uchee Pines,
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the two most prominent founders
that individuals recognize
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are Dr. S. Calvin
and Agatha Thrash.
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First, Dr. Agatha had
many programs on 3ABN.
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She did, she did
a great job. Yeah.
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And they were very popular too.
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Yup.
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And he was an internist,
she was a pathologist,
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both of them
working in Columbus, Georgia
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and Dr. Agatha was the
first one to be caught up
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with the
Adventist health message.
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Dr. Calvin kind of
dragged his feet a little bit
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for a while
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as I'm told by Cal, their son
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and she was very
interested in the message,
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but recognized that
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it would require
a lot of sacrifice.
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And they ended up
doing a lot of sacrifice,
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a lot of their social
ties and so on and so forth
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what should I say,
were severed in the process.
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They bought a 200 farm...
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a 200 acre farm
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where Uchee Pines
currently is located.
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They started a
little health food store
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in the basement of their home
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and that later became...
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transferred over to
country life restaurant
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and health food store
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where we currently have
it in Columbus, Georgia,
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the only vegan
restaurant in Columbus.
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Oh, wow. Incredible.
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And the work has just grown
hundreds and hundreds of people
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that have been
trained through the years
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and we have missionaries
that are all over the world
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and that are conducting
medical missionary work,
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that are training individuals,
that have started institutions
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and it's been an inspiring work.
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Amen.
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You know, a lot of sacrifice,
you know, you think about it,
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yeah, but what a powerful work,
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the medical missionary work is.
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Well, Jill, we're
getting into this already
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aren't we?
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We should go to some
music, who is our music...
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We should.
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Oh, you have some
scripture too, don't you?
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I am gonna read the
scripture first, okay.
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The scripture here
is from Psalm 103:2.
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The Bible says,
"Bless the Lord, O my soul
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and forget not all his benefits,
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who forgives
all your iniquities,
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who heals all
your diseases." Amen.
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And I want to read verse 4,
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"Who redeems your
life from destruction,
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who crowns you
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with loving
kindness and tender mercies."
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What a wonderful
merciful God we serve.
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And I think about the
sacrifice and dedication
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as you were mentioning Dr. Mark
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of Dr. Agatha and
Dr. Calvin Thrash.
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And how God gave
them a vision and a dream
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and how that has
been walked out in reality
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and the hundreds and
hundreds of people's lives
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probably thousands,
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who have been impacted
and blessed for eternity,
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so praise the lord for that.
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We have some music
right now we want to go to
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and then we'll go to the
rest of our interview here.
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Gerry Lynn
Mendenhall is here with us
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and she would be
doing a song, Amazing Grace.
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Amen.
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Amazing Grace
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How sweet the sound
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That saved a wretch like me
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I once was lost
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But now am found
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'Twas blind but now I see
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'Twas grace that taught
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My heart to fear
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And grace, my fears
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Relieved
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How precious did
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That grace appear
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The hour I first believed
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My chains are gone
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I've been set free
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My God, my Savior
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Has ransomed me
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And like a flood
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His mercy reigns
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Unending love
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Amazing grace
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The Lord has promised
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Good to me
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His word my hope
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Secures
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He will my shield
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And portion be
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As long as life endures
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My chains are gone
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I've been set free
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My God, my Savior
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Has ransomed me
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And like a flood
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His mercy reigns
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Unending love
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Amazing grace
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My chains are gone
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I've been set free
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My God, my Savior
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Has ransomed me
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And like a flood
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His mercy reigns
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Unending love
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Amazing grace
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The earth shall soon
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Dissolve like snow
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The sun forbear
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To shine
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But God
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Who called me here below
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Will be
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Forever mine
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Will be
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Forever mine
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You are
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Forever
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Mine.
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Amen, what a
powerful song, Amazing Grace,
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we appreciate God's
amazing grace, don't we?
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It's a blessing.
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What a wonderful
gift salvation is too.
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Amen.
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Thank you, Gerry Lynn and CD...
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C.W. Garrett, and ET too,
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we appreciate
the musical talents
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and using them for
the Lord Jesus Christ.
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What a blessing that is.
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And in case
you're just joining us,
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we have Uchee
Pines with us today
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and we appreciate
you being here, Dr. Mark,
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Elder Livermore
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and make sure I get
the Duthier Jean-Pierre,
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did I get that right?
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Close?
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Okay, but again we
appreciate you all being here
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and tell us,
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why the health
message is important?
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Because we all
want to feel good,
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I mean, that's obvious.
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I mean, all of us
want to feel good,
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be in good health,
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but there's a
spiritual connection as well.
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So just tell us
why it's important?
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Well, you can't
have a healthy mind
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if you don't
have a healthy body.
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And you need a healthy mind
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in order to be able
to understand the word
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and to be able to
listen to the Holy Spirit
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and so physical health
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is very intrinsically
tied up with spiritual health.
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If you don't have
the physical health
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and then the spiritual health
is lacking to a great degree.
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And so, and for many individuals
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if they may not be open
to the spiritual aspects,
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but when you touch them
and their lives are changed
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and their physical
healing comes about
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and they see
that you care them...
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care for them and you love them
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and you're concerned
about their best good
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from a physical standpoint
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then they're open to
then what you have to say
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from a spiritual
standpoint as well.
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So it's a great entering
wedge into individual's hearts,
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that's part of the importance.
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Yeah, and you are the president
of Uchee Pines Institute
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and you've been there
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for a couple of
years you said, five.
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Been a president for two years
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and I've been at
Uchee Pines for five years.
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So I know you have a family,
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because they are not
here on the set with us,
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so tell us
quickly about your family?
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I have a wife, and
four daughters, and one son
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and we have one child on the way
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and we don't know whether
it's a daughter or a son.
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You have a busy
household. Yes, we do.
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That's great,
well, praise the Lord.
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So Elder Livermore,
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I know that you
are the president
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of the Gulf States Conference.
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And so you don't
work at Uchee Pines,
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but somehow you're tied
in here with Uchee Pines,
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so tell us a little
bit about your story?
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Well, Uchee Pines is
actually in our conference,
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so one of our pastors
over there is the pastor.
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But at the end of the...
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So there is a
connection that way.
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There is a
connection. That's true.
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It's a good point.
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But there, maybe in December,
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we got talking about
a ministry to retreat
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and we need to go
somewhere in January.
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I'll tell you,
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December was pretty tough on me.
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I was getting
pains around my heart
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just any quick movement at all.
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I also was
really being exhausted.
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I mean, I'm a pretty
hyper, high energy guy,
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always been
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and I came out of
the car from my driveway,
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walked into the house
and I could barely make it
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and I just
worked an eight hour day
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and my wife looked at
me, she said, "What's wrong?"
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I said, "I'm just exhausted."
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So, even walking from the
car to the house was exhaustive.
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I was just so
tired, yeah, just tired,
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and went right to bed.
Well, that's not me at all.
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So my wife said,
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"I'm kind of worried about you,"
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you know, I said,
"I'm okay, I'm okay."
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And I'm the kind of
guy, just I like my work,
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I wasn't taking care of
myself and it caught up to me.
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So on this ministry of retreat,
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we got talking and
the treasurer said,
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let's go to Uchee Pines.
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For your ministry of retreat?
00:17:12.03\00:17:13.36
Yeah, and I said, "Uchee Pines?
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Why would we go there?"
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And the treasurer
just never reneged on it
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just kind of kept,
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this is where we need to go
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and the vice president
of administration said,
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"I think we should go, Dave."
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So I was the last one
and I was pretty like,
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I don't really care
to go there, you know.
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But we went,
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I was the last one to
arrive on Sunday night,
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you know, Monday they
drew blood and everything
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and they put you on a diet,
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it's a pretty
wild place, you know,
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there's some, contrast showers,
there's things that happened.
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So, what is a contrast shower?
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Someone may say,
well, what's that?
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Oh, I would love to
show you what it is,
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just tell you about it.
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So contrast,
obviously, there's something,
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they're opposite.
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Yes, it's a true
contrast between hot and cold.
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Okay, hot and cold water.
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They put you on a chair
and there's jets everywhere,
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they hit you from
right at your lower ankles
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to your head.
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So in other words you
can't avoid it, the water.
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Oh, no, you have
your swimming suit on,
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you're in a chair
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and they just heat it up
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and they heat it as
hot as they can get it
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till you say, "Okay
that's good, that's good."
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And then they run
that for like three minutes
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and then they just hit
it cold for 30 seconds.
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They give you a warning?
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Yeah, they kind, they
count it down for you,
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but it's common,
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let me tell you.
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And, man, the first...
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oh, the first one is
just like what in the world...
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Kind of makes you
holler a little bit.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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But, you know, then they,
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I did a Russian
sauna and, you know,
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but, you know, as
funny as it may sound to us,
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there was an effect on me.
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In like, when you're done
out of that contrast shower,
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the Russian sauna,
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they take you back to your room
and you lay down on your bed,
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they wrap you up in a...
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They have a plastic
sheet, wrap you up in a blanket
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and you rest for 30 minutes.
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I was so tired when
I came back to my room,
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I lay down and just exhausted.
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I slept, and I woke up,
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and I went, "You know, I
feel better, I feel better."
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Was this the first day?
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It was during the five days.
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Okay, okay. Yeah.
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So if I can interrupt
for one moment, Dr. Mark,
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so what would be the purpose
of doing a contrast shower
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or the steam
bath, the Russian sauna?
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How does that help
your body physiologically?
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Well, the
hydrotherapy treatments were
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like the contrast
showers we're talking about
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with the heat and the cold,
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it helps to change or
manipulate circulation,
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with the heat it causes
the blood vessels to dilate,
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with the cold it
causes them to constrict.
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We know that
contrast treatments like that
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helped increase the circulation
of white blood cells,
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it helps with
immune system's function.
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And I have used it
on a number of occasions
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when I have been...
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When I know that I'm starting
to come down with a cold,
00:20:10.91\00:20:13.21
you get that scratchy throat,
00:20:13.24\00:20:14.58
or you're feeling
that kind of achy feeling
00:20:14.61\00:20:17.61
and you know
you're right on the verge.
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You jump in and get
into contrast shower
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in about five
exchanges back and forth.
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And on cold, get
up, wrap up in bed
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and it really helps
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and there's been
a number of times
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when I've been
able to avoid an illness
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from that
standpoint. That's great.
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And it really helps invigorate
00:20:35.50\00:20:36.83
and individuals that
have like, anxiety, depression
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other things like that
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it also helps in
that situation as well.
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Okay, okay, I'm
sorry, Pastor Dave.
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Oh, no problem.
00:20:45.67\00:20:47.64
So those
treatments are going on,
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a drastic change in diet,
you know, when we got there
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and, you know, I put
in there for weight loss
00:20:53.85\00:20:58.02
that they want a
reason why you're there.
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So I wrote on the
application for weight loss
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and I weighed 266
pounds when I got there.
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Oh, wow.
00:21:07.60\00:21:08.93
And so when I'm eating,
00:21:08.96\00:21:11.10
there you are
assigned like a counselor,
00:21:11.13\00:21:13.54
a private
counselor. Oh, that's nice.
00:21:13.57\00:21:15.67
Very kind,
00:21:15.70\00:21:17.04
very, just couldn't
have been better for me,
00:21:17.07\00:21:19.54
prayed for me so many times.
00:21:19.57\00:21:21.21
So when I'm get to
eat breakfast and lunch,
00:21:21.24\00:21:26.08
he would say to me,
00:21:26.11\00:21:27.45
"Now remember why
you're here, you know,
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so just don't load up,
just whatever food is there,
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you know, be careful."
00:21:34.36\00:21:35.69
So moderation.
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Yes.
00:21:37.09\00:21:38.43
And, but then no supper,
no snacks, just water or tea.
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So pretty drastic for me.
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Was it hard?
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Very hard. Yeah, very hard,
00:21:49.84\00:21:52.54
maybe not the
five days I was there,
00:21:52.57\00:21:54.81
but when I left,
very hard adjustment.
00:21:54.84\00:21:59.01
I'd really let myself go,
00:21:59.05\00:22:01.35
but I want to get
back to the blood work
00:22:01.38\00:22:03.79
because when Dr. Sandoval
sat down with me on Thursday,
00:22:03.82\00:22:07.36
I had the blood work on Monday,
00:22:07.39\00:22:08.72
he sat down with me on Thursday.
00:22:08.76\00:22:11.66
You know, I just, you
know, you kind of just,
00:22:11.69\00:22:14.76
you know, I'm 66 years old,
00:22:14.80\00:22:16.93
I'm been a hard
worker all my life,
00:22:16.97\00:22:20.37
you know, I'm always healthy,
00:22:20.40\00:22:22.64
I'm always kind of
good frame of mind.
00:22:22.67\00:22:24.37
Yeah, you look good. Yeah.
00:22:24.41\00:22:25.74
Good now. Absolutely!
00:22:25.77\00:22:27.11
Yeah, you know, and I
guess you just work hard and...
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Of course.
00:22:29.71\00:22:31.05
So, I wasn't as careful
00:22:31.08\00:22:32.41
with what I was
eating or exercise.
00:22:32.45\00:22:35.38
So when Dr.
Sandoval sat down with me
00:22:35.42\00:22:38.75
and said, "You've got diabetes,
00:22:38.79\00:22:41.96
you've got heart trouble,
00:22:41.99\00:22:45.89
you've got kidneys
that aren't working right."
00:22:45.93\00:22:48.06
Did you know
that? It was a shock.
00:22:50.70\00:22:52.03
You didn't know
that. Oh, no, no idea.
00:22:52.07\00:22:53.40
No clue.
00:22:53.44\00:22:54.77
So you put down
weight loss originally.
00:22:54.80\00:22:56.50
Right.
00:22:56.54\00:22:57.87
And now you got diabetes.
00:22:57.91\00:23:00.14
Kidney problems, heart
issues, and then there's...
00:23:00.18\00:23:03.45
And Dr. Sandoval can
explain as better than I can,
00:23:03.48\00:23:06.18
but all that is terrible,
00:23:06.21\00:23:09.08
but the one
that really rocked me
00:23:09.12\00:23:11.95
was a susceptibility
towards Alzheimer's
00:23:11.99\00:23:15.82
and my grandmother
had it and it just rubbed,
00:23:15.86\00:23:19.03
you know, didn't know any of us,
00:23:19.06\00:23:20.40
didn't know my mom
or anything at the end.
00:23:20.43\00:23:22.93
And that's always been
in the back of my mind,
00:23:22.96\00:23:24.90
you know, and I had read
00:23:24.93\00:23:26.30
that Alzheimer's
can skip a generation
00:23:26.33\00:23:30.17
and then come back.
00:23:30.21\00:23:31.54
So we've talked
this, three boys,
00:23:31.57\00:23:33.27
we've talked that, you know,
mom didn't get it, you know,
00:23:33.31\00:23:36.28
so when he showed me that,
00:23:36.31\00:23:39.88
I'll tell you, it
just took my breath away.
00:23:39.91\00:23:42.68
Oh yeah. Of course.
00:23:42.72\00:23:44.05
Because I've spent, you
know, my life trying to learn,
00:23:44.09\00:23:45.89
you know, I don't want
to lose what I've learned,
00:23:45.92\00:23:48.99
so I had to
leave after five days.
00:23:49.02\00:23:53.29
Dr. Sandoval tried to
talk me in this thing longer.
00:23:53.33\00:23:56.33
I wished I could
have, I just couldn't,
00:23:56.36\00:23:59.50
so I called my
wife on the way home
00:23:59.53\00:24:01.54
and I just said,
00:24:01.57\00:24:03.00
"I've got lots to
talk to you about,
00:24:03.04\00:24:04.77
but let's wait and
talk face to face."
00:24:04.81\00:24:07.78
So 90 miles I drove,
didn't get on the phone,
00:24:07.81\00:24:11.88
I just really prayed
00:24:11.91\00:24:13.35
and thought about
what am I gonna do.
00:24:13.38\00:24:16.18
Yeah, that's
heavy news. Yes, it is.
00:24:16.22\00:24:17.99
Very heavy,
00:24:18.02\00:24:19.35
but the one thing
there was hope in it
00:24:19.39\00:24:21.19
because everything I
had could be reversed.
00:24:21.22\00:24:23.93
What? Everything.
00:24:23.96\00:24:25.36
Someone at home is
saying, "There is no way." Wow!
00:24:25.39\00:24:28.13
I'll tell you,
I'm a living proof
00:24:28.16\00:24:29.56
and you can reverse it fast.
00:24:29.60\00:24:31.13
So you're talking diabetes,
heart issues, kidney issues,
00:24:31.17\00:24:35.17
susceptibility
towards the Alzheimer's.
00:24:35.20\00:24:36.91
Yeah, yeah. It's incredible.
00:24:36.94\00:24:38.37
You said all can
be reversed. Right.
00:24:38.41\00:24:39.97
And so, you know,
00:24:40.01\00:24:43.81
the blood work and
the exam that gave me
00:24:43.85\00:24:46.72
was very thorough, very good.
00:24:46.75\00:24:49.18
So I came home with the idea
00:24:49.22\00:24:50.72
that I'll do whatever
Dr. Sandoval asked me to do.
00:24:50.75\00:24:53.62
I'm gonna do it all.
00:24:53.66\00:24:55.06
I'm not gonna,
00:24:55.09\00:24:56.42
"Oh, I wish I could
have this, I wish I could..."
00:24:56.46\00:24:57.79
I'm not going to do that,
00:24:57.83\00:24:59.16
I'm going to do
what he told me to do.
00:24:59.19\00:25:00.56
So, I took out all my,
00:25:00.60\00:25:02.03
you know, they
give you a cookbook
00:25:02.06\00:25:03.40
and they really help you,
00:25:03.43\00:25:04.77
you have everything
there to be successful.
00:25:04.80\00:25:06.20
So I took out all
that, gave it to my wife
00:25:06.23\00:25:09.04
and I stayed out of the
kitchen for three months.
00:25:09.07\00:25:11.07
Oh, wow.
00:25:11.11\00:25:12.44
I never walked to the kitchen,
00:25:12.47\00:25:13.81
three months.
00:25:13.84\00:25:15.18
Because, what's the...
00:25:15.21\00:25:16.54
I just was afraid, I
would grab something,
00:25:16.58\00:25:17.91
you know, I was kind
of a grazer, you know,
00:25:17.95\00:25:19.91
open the
refrigerator graze in there
00:25:19.95\00:25:22.28
whatever is there,
you know, just going down,
00:25:22.32\00:25:24.55
you know, so...
00:25:24.59\00:25:27.36
And then I did
00:25:27.39\00:25:28.72
and this is a very critical part
00:25:28.76\00:25:30.46
and the Uchee
Pines emphasize this is
00:25:30.49\00:25:33.19
along with a good
diet you have to exercise.
00:25:33.23\00:25:35.76
So I started walking,
you know, half a mile,
00:25:35.80\00:25:39.43
got up to a mile,
got up to two miles.
00:25:39.47\00:25:42.50
Wow.
00:25:42.54\00:25:43.87
Got up to three,
00:25:43.91\00:25:45.74
I walk about between three
and four miles every day now.
00:25:45.77\00:25:48.64
That's great.
00:25:48.68\00:25:50.01
I missed this morning,
but I'll catch it tonight,
00:25:50.05\00:25:51.81
I'll do tonight.
00:25:51.85\00:25:53.45
And I just feel the difference.
00:25:53.48\00:25:55.95
Right now I weigh, the
last time I was on a scale,
00:25:55.98\00:25:58.75
I was 213 from 266.
00:25:58.79\00:26:01.16
Oh, praise the Lord.
00:26:01.19\00:26:02.69
And that's from
January 8th till today.
00:26:02.72\00:26:05.36
Wow, oh, that's
just a few months.
00:26:05.39\00:26:07.30
Yeah, yeah just a few months,
00:26:07.33\00:26:08.93
and I will tell you, you know,
you asked me if it was hard.
00:26:08.96\00:26:14.17
Very hard in the beginning
because the adjustment,
00:26:14.20\00:26:16.20
you know, you have to be
like you can get full so easy,
00:26:16.24\00:26:19.84
you're just eating something
00:26:19.87\00:26:21.21
and you go, "I didn't
want to eat that, you know."
00:26:21.24\00:26:22.74
So I was really careful,
00:26:22.78\00:26:25.11
but now it's more
manageable hunger,
00:26:25.15\00:26:28.92
where that ravaging
hunger is just, you know,
00:26:28.95\00:26:31.25
it's just crazy, I
got to be so careful.
00:26:31.29\00:26:33.66
But now it's more managed,
00:26:33.69\00:26:35.02
sure I get
hungry, I mean, I'm human,
00:26:35.06\00:26:36.39
you know, I get
hungry, but it isn't...
00:26:36.42\00:26:38.49
I don't want to,
00:26:38.53\00:26:39.86
I'm not going to blow
what I'm doing, you know,
00:26:39.89\00:26:42.06
because I want to go out
and eat Thanksgiving dinner
00:26:42.10\00:26:44.87
or something,
you know what I mean,
00:26:44.90\00:26:46.23
I want to be careful.
00:26:46.27\00:26:47.60
So it's been pretty good.
00:26:47.64\00:26:50.11
Yeah. Amen.
00:26:50.14\00:26:51.47
So have you had some
blood work follow up,
00:26:51.51\00:26:53.34
have you
checked on that diabetes
00:26:53.38\00:26:55.04
and the kidney issue and
the heart and all of that?
00:26:55.08\00:26:57.18
Great question, I have
a doctor in Montgomery,
00:26:57.21\00:27:00.42
that is my
regular doctor that I go,
00:27:00.45\00:27:02.18
I get a couple prescriptions
from him a year and stuff.
00:27:02.22\00:27:05.45
And I just saw him,
00:27:05.49\00:27:07.52
and I sent Dr. Sandoval
00:27:07.56\00:27:09.62
the blood work
that he did for me.
00:27:09.66\00:27:13.16
Here's what that doctor
said to me in Montgomery.
00:27:13.19\00:27:16.03
He said, "Mr. Livermore,
I want to congratulate you."
00:27:16.06\00:27:22.00
And I kind of looked at
him like, you know what I mean.
00:27:22.04\00:27:23.77
and he goes,
00:27:23.81\00:27:25.14
I don't have many
people walk in here
00:27:25.17\00:27:26.51
and have lost 50
pounds since I seen him last.
00:27:26.54\00:27:29.74
And he says,
"You're doing terrific."
00:27:29.78\00:27:31.15
Praise God.
00:27:31.18\00:27:32.51
Yeah, very, very good
00:27:32.55\00:27:33.92
and I sent the
blood work to Dr. Sandoval
00:27:33.95\00:27:37.62
and he said,
00:27:37.65\00:27:38.99
"Boy, everything
looks good," you know.
00:27:39.02\00:27:40.42
Really?
00:27:40.46\00:27:41.79
Yeah, on the blood work
there's no evidence of diabetes
00:27:41.82\00:27:44.99
and some of the heart,
00:27:45.03\00:27:48.10
you know, markers
with cholesterol levels
00:27:48.13\00:27:50.23
and that kind of
stuff are looking very good.
00:27:50.27\00:27:51.87
And so it's, yeah,
that's definitely a blessing
00:27:51.90\00:27:55.60
and your fasting blood sugars,
00:27:55.64\00:27:56.97
you had several
that were in the 80s,
00:27:57.01\00:28:00.01
last time we had talked
00:28:00.04\00:28:01.44
and so it's looking really good.
00:28:01.48\00:28:03.08
Amen. Amen.
00:28:03.11\00:28:04.45
It's neat, isn't it
00:28:04.48\00:28:05.81
how the body actually,
00:28:05.85\00:28:07.18
you know,
because sometimes I think
00:28:07.22\00:28:08.55
in the society we tend to think,
00:28:08.58\00:28:09.92
"Oh, boy here we go,"
00:28:09.95\00:28:11.29
so then you start taking
a lot of different medicines
00:28:11.32\00:28:12.65
which I know
medicine has its place
00:28:12.69\00:28:14.02
for certain things.
00:28:14.06\00:28:15.39
But still, you
know, we just start
00:28:15.42\00:28:16.76
and then we need
to take medicines
00:28:16.79\00:28:18.13
to counteract the
effects of that medicine
00:28:18.16\00:28:19.49
and then it becomes,
00:28:19.53\00:28:20.86
let's see all the
different types of pill bottles.
00:28:20.90\00:28:22.23
And there are some
people that I know that,
00:28:22.26\00:28:23.60
I think they take maybe like
00:28:23.63\00:28:24.97
15 to 18 different
pills every morning
00:28:25.00\00:28:27.64
that are
counteracting different things.
00:28:27.67\00:28:29.24
So it's encouraging to know
00:28:29.27\00:28:31.17
that a lot of this
stuff can be reversed,
00:28:31.21\00:28:33.01
and it's interesting
00:28:33.04\00:28:34.38
because Duthier, right?
Got that, pronounced right.
00:28:34.41\00:28:36.78
You know, we're talking,
00:28:36.81\00:28:38.15
you're part of
the educational part
00:28:38.18\00:28:39.51
of Uchee Pines,
00:28:39.55\00:28:40.88
but what I'm noticing here
00:28:40.92\00:28:42.25
is that it's just not
something that's just like,
00:28:42.28\00:28:43.69
okay, a crash thing
for five days and phew!
00:28:43.72\00:28:46.25
I can go back to
eating candy bars
00:28:46.29\00:28:47.72
and it's a lifestyle.
00:28:47.76\00:28:49.92
Yes, the goal is
00:28:49.96\00:28:51.59
we are seeking to educate people
00:28:51.63\00:28:53.36
on how they can live
a healthier lifestyle,
00:28:53.40\00:28:55.56
so that when you leave,
00:28:55.60\00:28:56.93
you have the
tools that you can use,
00:28:56.97\00:28:58.53
that you can live that
lifestyle continuously.
00:28:58.57\00:29:00.74
See, and that's the
key, it's a lifestyle,
00:29:00.77\00:29:02.10
because sometimes it's like,
00:29:02.14\00:29:03.47
I'm just on this one month diet
or I'm on a three month diet
00:29:03.51\00:29:06.47
and then phew, you
know, I do whatever
00:29:06.51\00:29:08.24
and then I'm
back to my old ways,
00:29:08.28\00:29:10.75
it's the key is the lifestyle.
00:29:10.78\00:29:12.98
We have some pictures, don't we?
00:29:13.01\00:29:14.58
Oh, yeah we do. So, okay.
00:29:14.62\00:29:16.12
So let's take a look,
00:29:16.15\00:29:17.49
I think we have some
before and after pictures.
00:29:17.52\00:29:19.25
I think so. Okay.
00:29:19.29\00:29:20.66
So this is you
six months ago? Wow!
00:29:20.69\00:29:23.63
Yeah, this would have been...
Let's see probably in December.
00:29:23.66\00:29:30.07
Just before you
went to Uchee Pines.
00:29:30.10\00:29:31.47
Yes.
00:29:31.50\00:29:32.83
Okay, all right.
00:29:32.87\00:29:34.74
And this is you.
00:29:34.77\00:29:36.37
Yeah, that's actually
in December, I'm going...
00:29:36.40\00:29:38.61
I'm in the airport,
00:29:38.64\00:29:39.97
I'm going to Cuba
on a mission trip.
00:29:40.01\00:29:41.98
I can see you've
lost a lot of weight.
00:29:42.01\00:29:43.35
Yeah. Absolutely.
00:29:43.38\00:29:44.71
There till now.
00:29:44.75\00:29:46.08
And this is still
before you met Dr. Sandoval.
00:29:46.11\00:29:47.45
That's my
favorite position at home.
00:29:47.48\00:29:49.78
It looks like an easy chair.
00:29:49.82\00:29:51.15
Yeah. It is.
00:29:51.19\00:29:52.75
Here I'm with one of
my evangelism friends
00:29:52.79\00:29:54.56
and you can see I
was getting pretty big.
00:29:54.59\00:29:56.32
Wow! Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:29:56.36\00:29:57.69
I can see that.
00:29:57.73\00:29:59.39
There, I'm in Cuba
with a couple of speakers.
00:29:59.43\00:30:04.43
Okay.
00:30:04.47\00:30:05.80
Nice.
00:30:05.83\00:30:07.17
Wow! There you're
with Dr. Sandoval.
00:30:07.20\00:30:09.74
You know, look at that,
you know, you look at that.
00:30:09.77\00:30:11.37
Isn't that amazing?
00:30:11.41\00:30:12.74
When you look at
that, it's just like
00:30:12.77\00:30:14.11
it's almost probably
hard to believe, isn't it?
00:30:14.14\00:30:15.48
That's me.
00:30:15.51\00:30:16.85
It is and, you know,
00:30:16.88\00:30:18.95
I had no idea of the impact
00:30:18.98\00:30:21.65
that I could have
on the conference,
00:30:21.68\00:30:24.19
on the office.
00:30:24.22\00:30:25.55
We've sent several
now to Uchee Pines.
00:30:25.59\00:30:27.69
Everybody's been
helped tremendously.
00:30:27.72\00:30:30.46
I have a dream of sending
every one of our pastors there,
00:30:30.49\00:30:33.19
I like us to go together
and have a real retreat.
00:30:33.23\00:30:35.70
Oh! That's great.
00:30:35.73\00:30:37.07
And I think it could
benefit us all so much, so.
00:30:37.10\00:30:39.73
Amen.
00:30:39.77\00:30:41.10
So the ripple effect, you
know, I just want to commend you
00:30:41.14\00:30:43.37
because it takes a lot
of courage as a leader,
00:30:43.41\00:30:46.04
as a conference
president to be able to say,
00:30:46.07\00:30:48.51
"Hey, I'm struggling
here and I have an issue here.
00:30:48.54\00:30:51.51
And this is
where God has helped me
00:30:51.55\00:30:53.75
and what God has
done in my life."
00:30:53.78\00:30:55.22
So praise the Lord,
00:30:55.25\00:30:56.58
and thank you for
being willing to share.
00:30:56.62\00:30:58.69
You know what
God's done in your life
00:30:58.72\00:31:00.42
because there's no
powerful, more powerful witness
00:31:00.46\00:31:03.16
than your own personal testimony
00:31:03.19\00:31:04.53
of what God has done. Yeah.
00:31:04.56\00:31:06.16
And I think what
your testimony does too is
00:31:06.19\00:31:07.86
it gives a lot of hope. Yes.
00:31:07.90\00:31:09.30
Because you're not
the only one, you know,
00:31:09.33\00:31:11.37
there're many that are
sitting right now at home,
00:31:11.40\00:31:14.17
you know, thinking, "Man,
I've got a terrible report
00:31:14.20\00:31:16.30
from the doctor.
00:31:16.34\00:31:17.67
I can barely make it from my car
00:31:17.71\00:31:19.31
to my living room couch
00:31:19.34\00:31:21.21
without feeling out
of breath or so tired."
00:31:21.24\00:31:23.45
And here you were
there just a few months ago,
00:31:23.48\00:31:26.61
and now you said how
many miles are you walking?
00:31:26.65\00:31:28.08
Three or four?
00:31:28.12\00:31:29.45
Well, I was just in Europe,
00:31:29.48\00:31:30.85
and I walked in nine
days, I walked 80.7 miles.
00:31:30.89\00:31:35.06
Say that again, how many?
00:31:35.09\00:31:36.93
It's true. It's true.
00:31:36.96\00:31:38.29
I got that on my
phone, I can prove it.
00:31:38.33\00:31:39.66
Okay, okay. How many miles?
00:31:39.69\00:31:41.03
In nine days, I
walked 80.7 miles.
00:31:41.06\00:31:43.00
Yeah, it's incredible.
00:31:43.03\00:31:44.63
And really my
legs came back so fast.
00:31:44.67\00:31:47.74
This is a good
point for us to cover.
00:31:47.77\00:31:49.70
You're never too old to
start a plant based diet.
00:31:49.74\00:31:52.97
You know, I eat 70% raw,
00:31:53.01\00:31:54.94
you know, so I'm
careful in the morning,
00:31:54.98\00:31:56.71
have good steel cut
oat meal in the morning
00:31:56.75\00:31:59.48
along with my
Granny Smith apples
00:31:59.51\00:32:01.68
that I was recommended to have,
00:32:01.72\00:32:03.75
a tablespoon of
peanut butter with it,
00:32:03.79\00:32:05.62
some raspberries,
black berries, blueberries.
00:32:05.65\00:32:07.66
Nice.
00:32:07.69\00:32:09.02
And then in the afternoon,
00:32:09.06\00:32:10.39
I have my vegetables,
I always eat them first.
00:32:10.43\00:32:14.06
The raw is so good as,
try to get 70%, 30% raw,
00:32:14.10\00:32:19.07
and then have an
entrée of some sort,
00:32:19.10\00:32:21.14
but no milk, no cheese, no eggs,
00:32:21.17\00:32:23.00
nothing like that,
haven't touched it.
00:32:23.04\00:32:25.61
And my body went on tilt.
00:32:25.64\00:32:27.01
I mean, when I
started this, you know.
00:32:27.04\00:32:28.38
I was a big egg eater and cheese
00:32:28.41\00:32:30.91
and kind of replace the meat.
00:32:30.95\00:32:33.31
So, but oh, I
feel so much better,
00:32:33.35\00:32:36.79
I can't tell you.
00:32:36.82\00:32:38.19
Wow! You look good.
00:32:38.22\00:32:39.89
You know, you have a
sparkle in your eye, good color.
00:32:39.92\00:32:42.82
Thank you. You just
got a lot of energy.
00:32:42.86\00:32:44.53
Amen, it's neat to
see what God has done.
00:32:44.56\00:32:46.06
I love the Lord
and I love this work,
00:32:46.09\00:32:48.96
and I want to be as
healthy as I can to do it well.
00:32:49.00\00:32:50.93
Amen. Amen.
00:32:50.97\00:32:52.30
So Dr. Sandoval,
I'm thinking here too
00:32:52.33\00:32:53.67
because I know you're
gonna have some people
00:32:53.70\00:32:55.20
because you're
a doctor and know,
00:32:55.24\00:32:56.57
so you want to be careful
00:32:56.60\00:32:57.94
because you could
have someone at home say,
00:32:57.97\00:32:59.31
"Okay, I'm not going
to go to any institute.
00:32:59.34\00:33:00.68
I'm just going to get
rid of all my medicines.
00:33:00.71\00:33:02.34
I'm going to jump
on a contrast shower."
00:33:02.38\00:33:04.41
And then you don't want someone
to just have a heart attack,
00:33:04.45\00:33:06.75
you know, because so tell
us a little recommendation
00:33:06.78\00:33:09.28
along those lines
what someone should do.
00:33:09.32\00:33:10.65
Well, if somebody
is taking medication,
00:33:10.69\00:33:13.09
then obviously
work with your physician
00:33:13.12\00:33:14.92
or the provider who
prescribed the medication
00:33:14.96\00:33:17.96
before you make
any drastic changes.
00:33:17.99\00:33:20.00
Amen.
00:33:20.03\00:33:21.53
One of the things that we do
00:33:21.56\00:33:23.20
frequently at the
center is fasting.
00:33:23.23\00:33:27.17
So we'll have individuals fast
for a day to maybe three days.
00:33:27.20\00:33:30.24
You were only
there for five days
00:33:30.27\00:33:31.61
so we didn't have you go through
00:33:31.64\00:33:32.97
the full three days, but...
00:33:33.01\00:33:34.34
The benefit of fasting?
The benefit of fasting is vast.
00:33:34.38\00:33:37.25
There's a lot of
research coming out with fasting
00:33:37.28\00:33:39.18
and showing that it has
effects on the immune system,
00:33:39.21\00:33:41.98
72 hours fast,
looking at, helping to reset
00:33:42.02\00:33:44.82
some of the stem
cells in the immune system.
00:33:44.85\00:33:47.06
So potential implications
with cancer autoimmune diseases
00:33:47.09\00:33:50.63
and so on and so forth.
00:33:50.66\00:33:52.59
Even as little
as 12 hours fasting,
00:33:52.63\00:33:55.36
there's benefits that
00:33:55.40\00:33:56.93
the research shows
from that standpoint.
00:33:56.97\00:33:58.67
And so there are some
good benefits with that,
00:33:58.70\00:34:03.74
but you know, with a fast, it's,
00:34:03.77\00:34:07.28
it can be a little
bit trial some, right?
00:34:07.31\00:34:10.95
But there are good benefits,
00:34:10.98\00:34:12.71
you know, benefits
associated with it.
00:34:12.75\00:34:15.28
And at the
center with the program
00:34:15.32\00:34:22.26
just to change
direction just slightly,
00:34:22.29\00:34:25.46
when we have individuals
00:34:25.49\00:34:26.83
coming into the
center, there's a lot of...
00:34:26.86\00:34:28.66
The lifestyle center?
00:34:28.70\00:34:30.03
Yeah, the lifestyle center,
00:34:30.07\00:34:31.40
there's a lot of
things to be overcome.
00:34:31.43\00:34:33.34
You know,
there's a lot of patterns
00:34:33.37\00:34:35.30
that
individuals have been having
00:34:35.34\00:34:37.31
as far as their
lack of exercise,
00:34:37.34\00:34:39.27
and you know, dietary
patterns and so on and so forth.
00:34:39.31\00:34:41.61
And so what we seek to
do is to educate individuals
00:34:41.64\00:34:45.15
how to live
00:34:45.18\00:34:46.51
and how to live the
healthiest way possible
00:34:46.55\00:34:47.88
within the context of
the disease that they have.
00:34:47.92\00:34:50.42
And in doing
that then it devolves
00:34:50.45\00:34:54.69
upon the individuals
when they go home to...
00:34:54.72\00:34:57.33
Yes, to follow through.
Yeah, to follow through...
00:34:57.36\00:34:59.39
And to continue
what they've learned.
00:34:59.43\00:35:01.23
And the individuals that do that
00:35:01.26\00:35:03.30
most consistently
are the ones that we see
00:35:03.33\00:35:05.43
such miraculous
changes in their life
00:35:05.47\00:35:07.94
and, you know, and
the healing processes
00:35:07.97\00:35:10.07
that come about
from that standpoint,
00:35:10.11\00:35:12.34
whether it's heart disease,
whether it's diabetes, cancer,
00:35:12.37\00:35:17.21
autoimmune conditions,
pain syndromes, obesity,
00:35:17.25\00:35:22.02
you know, overweight
and that kind of stuff.
00:35:22.05\00:35:24.39
And it's truly a
blessing to be there,
00:35:24.42\00:35:26.05
but the key component
00:35:26.09\00:35:27.62
that everybody must have, Jesus.
00:35:27.66\00:35:30.89
Amen. That's right.
00:35:30.93\00:35:32.26
Amen.
00:35:32.29\00:35:33.63
Just got to hinge upon
Jesus because only He can give
00:35:33.66\00:35:35.60
the strength to individuals
to have the consistency
00:35:35.63\00:35:39.40
that they need in their life
00:35:39.43\00:35:41.40
in order to maintain that
new, not diet, the lifestyle.
00:35:41.44\00:35:45.61
Yes.
00:35:45.64\00:35:46.98
So I know we
need to go to Duthier,
00:35:47.01\00:35:48.34
and we need to talk
about the educational system,
00:35:48.38\00:35:50.35
but before we do that,
00:35:50.38\00:35:51.71
you were talking about the fast.
00:35:51.75\00:35:53.08
Can you tell
our friends at home,
00:35:53.11\00:35:54.45
what a fast would entail?
00:35:54.48\00:35:55.82
Does that mean,
absolutely no food?
00:35:55.85\00:35:57.19
No water, no food.
What does that mean?
00:35:57.22\00:36:00.02
How much food? How little?
00:36:00.06\00:36:01.69
A fast is...
00:36:01.72\00:36:03.86
It can be done in
number of different ways.
00:36:03.89\00:36:06.13
Most of the research is looking
at individuals drinking water,
00:36:06.16\00:36:10.33
but they are not eating
any calorie containing foods
00:36:10.37\00:36:13.80
at the same time.
00:36:13.84\00:36:15.17
So you might be
able to use some,
00:36:15.20\00:36:16.64
you know, herbal
teas without sugar
00:36:16.67\00:36:18.54
and other types of
things included in it,
00:36:18.57\00:36:20.74
but pretty much water
that an individual is drinking
00:36:20.78\00:36:24.01
and the benefits
associated with that.
00:36:24.05\00:36:26.05
But if you go on a fast,
00:36:26.08\00:36:27.62
and getting back to
the point from earlier,
00:36:27.65\00:36:30.09
if you're on medication
00:36:30.12\00:36:31.65
and you're on
diabetes medication
00:36:31.69\00:36:33.42
and you try to
fast at home without...
00:36:33.46\00:36:35.26
That's danger.
00:36:35.29\00:36:36.62
Right, you
could kill yourself...
00:36:36.66\00:36:37.99
Because the medication could
cause your blood sugar levels
00:36:38.03\00:36:39.96
to go too low and
you could actually die.
00:36:40.00\00:36:42.00
So you want to work
with your physician,
00:36:42.03\00:36:43.57
you got to work
with your provider.
00:36:43.60\00:36:45.70
Come to Uchee Pines. Well, yes.
00:36:45.73\00:36:47.44
Go to the lifestyle center.
00:36:47.47\00:36:48.80
We have health
care professionals
00:36:48.84\00:36:50.17
who're working with,
you know, with individuals.
00:36:50.21\00:36:51.87
And so if we're gonna be taking
people off with medication.
00:36:51.91\00:36:55.04
Well, then we know
what the medications are,
00:36:55.08\00:36:57.18
how they respond,
and so on and so forth.
00:36:57.21\00:36:59.41
And then we have a
controlled environment,
00:36:59.45\00:37:01.15
and we're
monitoring their vital signs
00:37:01.18\00:37:02.85
and so on and so
forth along the way.
00:37:02.88\00:37:05.05
But if you're doing it at home,
again work with your provider,
00:37:05.09\00:37:08.16
and if you make any
significant changes,
00:37:08.19\00:37:10.29
let them know what you're doing
00:37:10.33\00:37:11.66
because they might need
to modify the medications.
00:37:11.69\00:37:14.10
If you're not
on any medications,
00:37:14.13\00:37:15.66
well, you can make some
pretty significant changes
00:37:15.70\00:37:18.23
without a lot of worry.
00:37:18.27\00:37:19.60
But if you're on
them, work with a provider.
00:37:19.63\00:37:21.97
Amen.
00:37:22.00\00:37:23.34
Well, that's great to get
that good balance there, yeah.
00:37:23.37\00:37:25.37
Because again
the body goes through
00:37:25.41\00:37:26.74
traumatic changes in that time.
00:37:26.78\00:37:29.04
We need to get to Duthier.
00:37:29.08\00:37:30.68
Yeah, and tell us
about the educational part
00:37:30.71\00:37:32.25
because you have
the lifestyle center,
00:37:32.28\00:37:34.22
then you have some sessions,
00:37:34.25\00:37:36.08
correct, of
actual training people.
00:37:36.12\00:37:38.35
Yes, we do.
00:37:38.39\00:37:39.72
We currently have two courses,
our Lifestyle Educator course,
00:37:39.75\00:37:43.09
and our
Lifestyle Counselor course.
00:37:43.12\00:37:45.73
What's the
difference between them?
00:37:45.76\00:37:47.10
Now a Lifestyle
Educator of course,
00:37:47.13\00:37:48.50
what we seek to
is teach our trainees
00:37:48.53\00:37:50.30
how they can be educators.
00:37:50.33\00:37:52.47
Throughout their
course they're learning
00:37:52.50\00:37:54.14
how to give presentations.
00:37:54.17\00:37:56.10
They're
learning the ins and outs
00:37:56.14\00:37:57.51
of anatomy and physiology,
00:37:57.54\00:37:59.11
things that will
help them to be efficient
00:37:59.14\00:38:01.54
in giving these presentations.
00:38:01.58\00:38:03.45
So you would,
you're talking like
00:38:03.48\00:38:04.81
someone from the
church could say,
00:38:04.85\00:38:06.18
"Hey, I want to be an
educator in my church."
00:38:06.21\00:38:07.55
True, yes. Okay.
00:38:07.58\00:38:08.92
So they can come
and get some training.
00:38:08.95\00:38:10.29
True, and what
we're trying to do is,
00:38:10.32\00:38:11.65
as many trainees
as we can get trained,
00:38:11.69\00:38:13.22
they can go back
to their churches
00:38:13.25\00:38:15.22
and help their churches
to be training centers...
00:38:15.26\00:38:17.43
Educating their
members, helping them
00:38:17.46\00:38:19.03
to have the same
understanding that they do,
00:38:19.06\00:38:21.13
so that we all
can get this work done
00:38:21.16\00:38:23.47
because this is
only an ends to a means
00:38:23.50\00:38:25.30
is presenting the gospel.
00:38:25.33\00:38:27.24
Yes.
00:38:27.27\00:38:28.60
And then we have our
Lifestyle Counselor course
00:38:28.64\00:38:30.94
in which our
trainees are working,
00:38:30.97\00:38:33.01
learning to work more
one on one with persons,
00:38:33.04\00:38:35.34
for example, like
Brother Livermore.
00:38:35.38\00:38:37.35
And they're learning to
explain to them their diet plan,
00:38:37.38\00:38:39.91
explaining to them
their Ts, explaining to them
00:38:39.95\00:38:42.08
why they're living,
00:38:42.12\00:38:43.82
how, why are they
eating the way they're eating,
00:38:43.85\00:38:45.69
and how is it gonna help
them with their lifestyle.
00:38:45.72\00:38:48.52
And we are also having stress
management classes with them,
00:38:48.56\00:38:51.59
hands on
nutrition classes with them.
00:38:51.63\00:38:54.66
As Dr. Mark, we have
medical professionals there
00:38:54.70\00:38:56.83
who are giving medical lectures,
00:38:56.87\00:38:58.47
all that's
encompassed in the program.
00:38:58.50\00:39:00.34
So like we said, they can
have tools that they can use,
00:39:00.37\00:39:03.71
so that they can
live a healthier lifestyle
00:39:03.74\00:39:05.44
to God's glory and honor.
00:39:05.47\00:39:06.98
So again, just really briefly
that explain you have twos,
00:39:07.01\00:39:09.08
because some have
may have just said,
00:39:09.11\00:39:10.45
"Okay, I didn't
quite catch what he says."
00:39:10.48\00:39:11.81
So you have two,
you have the counselor.
00:39:11.85\00:39:13.18
Yes. Which is the one year?
00:39:13.21\00:39:14.55
The Lifestyle Educator is
going to be our one year course.
00:39:14.58\00:39:17.65
And then Lifestyle Educator
will be our two year course...
00:39:17.69\00:39:20.62
Oh, Lifestyle
Counselor, excuse me.
00:39:20.66\00:39:21.99
The Counselor's, okay.
00:39:22.02\00:39:23.36
Is the two year? Yes.
00:39:23.39\00:39:24.73
Okay.
00:39:24.76\00:39:26.09
And you would do
classes like A&P.
00:39:26.13\00:39:27.46
You do A&P and nutrition.
00:39:27.50\00:39:29.10
Nutrition and we
also go through...
00:39:29.13\00:39:30.87
Hydrotherapy? Hydrotherapy.
00:39:30.90\00:39:33.13
We also try and incorporate
the chapel classes also
00:39:33.17\00:39:37.41
which go through some
sanctuary, Daniel, Revelation
00:39:37.44\00:39:41.28
because we want them
to be spiritually strong
00:39:41.31\00:39:43.41
as well as health,
00:39:43.45\00:39:44.78
they have that
health strength also,
00:39:44.81\00:39:46.31
so that they have the
balance in both areas.
00:39:46.35\00:39:48.22
Okay.
00:39:48.25\00:39:49.65
Now, it's all encompassed
in this acronym called
00:39:49.68\00:39:53.39
"Masters Program"
00:39:53.42\00:39:55.36
which stands for
medical missionary,
00:39:55.39\00:39:57.46
agriculture,
self-supporting, true education,
00:39:57.49\00:40:00.83
revival and
spiritual reformation.
00:40:00.86\00:40:02.90
We see that all these
components are essential,
00:40:02.93\00:40:05.20
so that
trainees can be effective
00:40:05.23\00:40:07.57
wherever they go, whether it be
00:40:07.60\00:40:08.94
the mission field,
whether the workforce,
00:40:08.97\00:40:10.77
we just want them to
be adequately trained
00:40:10.81\00:40:12.74
so that they can be as effective
00:40:12.77\00:40:15.08
as they can be to
God's glory and honor.
00:40:15.11\00:40:16.88
Amen. Dr. Mark?
00:40:16.91\00:40:18.78
And another key component
00:40:18.81\00:40:20.38
that we're looking
at with the new program,
00:40:20.42\00:40:22.72
the master's program
that is, "Trades Training".
00:40:22.75\00:40:26.25
So not just training the...
00:40:26.29\00:40:29.56
Having the trainees learning
about medical missionary work,
00:40:29.59\00:40:32.13
also we're gonna
be doing canvassing
00:40:32.16\00:40:34.50
that'll be a part
of the program as well,
00:40:34.53\00:40:36.63
but also giving
them a trades experience
00:40:36.67\00:40:40.70
so that they can like
Paul, have a tent making.
00:40:40.74\00:40:44.14
That's great. It's important.
00:40:44.17\00:40:45.57
Yeah, capacity to be
able to support themselves
00:40:45.61\00:40:48.44
and be
self-supporting missionaries
00:40:48.48\00:40:49.81
wherever they go
and whether that's from,
00:40:49.84\00:40:52.48
you know, something from a,
00:40:52.51\00:40:54.18
you know, from the
print shop and design,
00:40:54.22\00:40:56.65
whether it's from
housekeeping as an industry,
00:40:56.69\00:41:00.92
whether it's
looking at agriculture
00:41:00.96\00:41:05.73
or whether it's
in retail management.
00:41:05.76\00:41:09.56
We have a number of
different industries
00:41:09.60\00:41:11.53
that are available for students
00:41:11.57\00:41:14.07
and as we get more
industries directors
00:41:14.10\00:41:17.21
for other different industries
00:41:17.24\00:41:18.74
and they can expand
from that standpoint.
00:41:18.77\00:41:20.44
So that the students have
00:41:20.48\00:41:22.18
not just the
medical missionary training
00:41:22.21\00:41:23.68
and the spiritual training,
but they also have a trade
00:41:23.71\00:41:26.21
that they're trained for as well
00:41:26.25\00:41:28.25
to help them with self support.
00:41:28.28\00:41:29.62
Yeah, for as to fund themselves
so they can live, yeah, to...
00:41:29.65\00:41:33.36
So I know that you
said there's a one year,
00:41:33.39\00:41:36.66
and the two years.
00:41:36.69\00:41:38.03
So you obviously
have dormitories there.
00:41:38.06\00:41:39.39
True. Yes.
00:41:39.43\00:41:40.76
And I know that
there's somebody at home
00:41:40.80\00:41:42.13
that's saying, "Hey, I
think I want to do that."
00:41:42.16\00:41:43.50
So we're gonna go to an
address break here in about
00:41:43.53\00:41:45.60
over five to seven minutes.
00:41:45.63\00:41:47.00
You can get their
contact information
00:41:47.04\00:41:48.37
because on the website,
00:41:48.40\00:41:49.74
I'm sure is where you would get
the most information as cost.
00:41:49.77\00:41:52.94
Yes. Right, and all the details.
00:41:52.97\00:41:54.84
Yes, also and they
can find their cost,
00:41:54.88\00:41:58.11
they can find the information
00:41:58.15\00:41:59.98
if they're
struggling to pay the...
00:42:00.02\00:42:02.02
We also have a
work study program
00:42:02.05\00:42:03.65
which enables our students to go
00:42:03.69\00:42:05.62
and work for a
portion of their tuition
00:42:05.65\00:42:08.42
and at the same time
00:42:08.46\00:42:09.79
they can receive a
skill that they can use.
00:42:09.82\00:42:11.43
For me
personally, I was able to,
00:42:11.46\00:42:13.29
you know, being
a young bachelor,
00:42:13.33\00:42:14.66
I didn't really
know how to cook.
00:42:14.70\00:42:16.06
So when I came to Uchee Pines,
I had the blessing opportunity
00:42:16.10\00:42:19.90
to work in our
country life restaurant.
00:42:19.93\00:42:22.34
Then which I
learned how to cook,
00:42:22.37\00:42:23.71
it's kind of like, you know...
00:42:23.74\00:42:25.17
So you get the
opportunity to work
00:42:25.21\00:42:26.54
in the one in Columbus?
00:42:26.57\00:42:27.91
Yeah. That's great.
00:42:27.94\00:42:29.28
So I started with soups. Sure.
00:42:29.31\00:42:30.98
It's pretty easy, right?
00:42:31.01\00:42:32.88
And then from soups, you know,
00:42:32.91\00:42:34.25
we've worked our
way up to entrees
00:42:34.28\00:42:35.62
and from there
onward it kind of helped
00:42:35.65\00:42:37.35
in making more
comfortable in cooking.
00:42:37.39\00:42:39.72
So that was added blessing
00:42:39.75\00:42:41.56
and it could be
an added blessing
00:42:41.59\00:42:42.92
to whoever it may
be, whether they're one,
00:42:42.96\00:42:44.59
it's two in one, two
for one, we could say.
00:42:44.63\00:42:47.06
They learn, they got to pay
for a portion of their tuition
00:42:47.10\00:42:49.96
and at the same time get a skill
00:42:50.00\00:42:51.53
that they can use it also.
00:42:51.57\00:42:52.93
Yeah, you have to ask
Duthier about his bread.
00:42:52.97\00:42:55.94
So you're a baker now.
00:42:55.97\00:42:57.71
Well, being at Uchee Pines,
00:42:57.74\00:42:59.47
God has given me
the desire to make bread
00:42:59.51\00:43:04.31
and, you know,
through trial and error
00:43:04.35\00:43:07.68
as I always tell people,
me and my fellow housemate,
00:43:07.72\00:43:10.75
we went through a
lot of bad loafs of bread
00:43:10.79\00:43:13.09
before we got the good one.
00:43:13.12\00:43:16.12
Some of them
didn't taste so good.
00:43:16.16\00:43:17.99
Oh, were they
hard, did they fall?
00:43:18.03\00:43:19.69
You know, you have
varying issues, you know.
00:43:19.73\00:43:22.43
Some are missing some spaces,
00:43:22.46\00:43:24.63
some are little
moisture than others,
00:43:24.67\00:43:26.80
but you finally get
that loaf that's just right,
00:43:26.84\00:43:29.80
has the proper
flavor and texture
00:43:29.84\00:43:31.54
just massages the palate, yeah.
00:43:31.57\00:43:33.17
Amen. That sounds good.
00:43:33.21\00:43:34.54
You can come and
cook for us at 3ABN,
00:43:34.58\00:43:36.44
we need to eat that bread.
00:43:36.48\00:43:38.25
That's wonderful.
00:43:38.28\00:43:39.61
So you also have a five day,
like a short seminar, right?
00:43:39.65\00:43:42.92
Yes, we have seminars,
00:43:42.95\00:43:45.59
we offer three
seminars during the year.
00:43:45.62\00:43:47.66
Currently, we have in
the last full week of March,
00:43:47.69\00:43:51.46
we have the preventive medicine
and natural remedies seminar
00:43:51.49\00:43:55.00
and that one we have a
lot of health lecturers,
00:43:55.03\00:43:57.53
we have hands on
tracks in the afternoons
00:43:57.57\00:44:01.70
whether it's
agriculture or vegan cooking
00:44:01.74\00:44:04.24
or hydrotherapy,
massage, whatever it might be.
00:44:04.27\00:44:08.28
We have those hands on classes,
it runs from a Sunday evening
00:44:08.31\00:44:12.91
through Thursday evening.
00:44:12.95\00:44:14.85
That way you can,
00:44:14.88\00:44:16.22
it doesn't take
up a full weekend
00:44:16.25\00:44:18.59
and a lot of information in
a very short period of time,
00:44:18.62\00:44:21.66
a great spiritual
atmosphere as well.
00:44:21.69\00:44:23.43
We always have somebody
in doing spiritual talks
00:44:23.46\00:44:25.96
in the mornings
and in the evenings.
00:44:25.99\00:44:27.83
And it's just been a blessing
and a tradition at Uchee Pines
00:44:27.86\00:44:31.30
for the last 40 years.
00:44:31.33\00:44:32.67
Wow!
00:44:32.70\00:44:34.04
And we're going
to have a prophecy
00:44:34.07\00:44:37.21
in medical
missionary, camp meeting
00:44:37.24\00:44:39.97
which will run through
Sunday evening through Sabbath.
00:44:40.01\00:44:42.34
That's in the fall?
00:44:42.38\00:44:43.71
That will be in the
fall, it'll be in September
00:44:43.75\00:44:45.28
and typically the last
full week in September,
00:44:45.31\00:44:48.32
but check the website to see,
00:44:48.35\00:44:50.62
sometimes it
varies by a week or so.
00:44:50.65\00:44:52.85
And, you know,
having speakers coming in
00:44:52.89\00:44:55.72
and looking at where
we're in prophetic time,
00:44:55.76\00:44:58.76
looking at
medical missionary work
00:44:58.79\00:45:00.33
in context with prophecy...
00:45:00.36\00:45:03.16
Looking at helping to encourage
the medical missionaries
00:45:03.20\00:45:07.57
and just having a time
where we can come together
00:45:07.60\00:45:10.64
and correspond with each other.
00:45:10.67\00:45:14.14
And then we will also
have a true education seminar
00:45:14.18\00:45:18.88
which usually is
in the later fall,
00:45:18.91\00:45:21.65
early winter.
00:45:21.68\00:45:23.52
Wow. Yeah, that's fantastic.
00:45:23.55\00:45:24.92
You keep busy. Yes.
00:45:24.95\00:45:26.29
That's for sure, yeah.
00:45:26.32\00:45:27.66
So tell me about the
lifestyle then, the center,
00:45:27.69\00:45:30.23
I know it's relatively
new and you're in a...
00:45:30.26\00:45:33.80
Elder Livermore, you're
in a five day program, right?
00:45:33.83\00:45:36.73
But there are different
length programs, correct?
00:45:36.77\00:45:39.50
Because they want
you to stay longer.
00:45:39.53\00:45:40.87
Right. Yeah.
00:45:40.90\00:45:42.24
We have, we typically
have a 17 day program.
00:45:42.27\00:45:44.34
So every three
weeks, we have a new session
00:45:44.37\00:45:46.04
that's beginning
throughout the year.
00:45:46.07\00:45:47.81
And we
generally have individuals
00:45:47.84\00:45:49.94
coming for the 17 days,
00:45:49.98\00:45:51.31
but sometimes they
can't come for that long
00:45:51.35\00:45:52.95
so they come for 10
days, 11 days, 5 days
00:45:52.98\00:45:55.62
or so, like Dave did.
00:45:55.65\00:45:57.92
And so, we have that program,
00:45:57.95\00:46:01.49
we have the new
lifestyle center.
00:46:01.52\00:46:03.09
It was dedicated in
2010, you know, beautiful place
00:46:03.12\00:46:09.06
and surroundings and
settings, individuals come in,
00:46:09.10\00:46:12.37
we have a welcome
meeting on Sunday evening,
00:46:12.40\00:46:14.64
Monday morning, you're
getting blood work done.
00:46:14.67\00:46:16.97
And meeting with the
providers, we put together
00:46:17.01\00:46:21.14
an individualized
plan for individuals
00:46:21.18\00:46:24.05
and it includes, of
course, diet and exercise,
00:46:24.08\00:46:26.45
hydrotherapy,
other natural remedies
00:46:26.48\00:46:29.75
and, you know,
sunshine, fresh air,
00:46:29.78\00:46:31.49
and so on and so
forth, positive thinking,
00:46:31.52\00:46:35.12
and then you
have medical lectures,
00:46:35.16\00:46:37.49
you've got cooking classes,
00:46:37.53\00:46:39.53
you've even got
bread making class.
00:46:39.56\00:46:41.26
Yeah. That's exciting.
I'm excited about that.
00:46:41.30\00:46:44.10
And then you've got treatments,
00:46:44.13\00:46:47.14
the program, the
schedule's pretty full.
00:46:47.17\00:46:48.74
I think you'd agree, David,
but the schedule's pretty full.
00:46:48.77\00:46:52.81
And lots of
education that happens,
00:46:52.84\00:46:56.85
you meet with the
providers twice a week
00:46:56.88\00:46:59.48
Mondays and Thursdays.
00:46:59.51\00:47:00.98
And we review the blood
work, we make changes to,
00:47:01.02\00:47:06.25
you know, what's going on,
00:47:06.29\00:47:07.82
and responding
to individuals needs
00:47:07.86\00:47:10.03
and how they're responding
to the program as well.
00:47:10.06\00:47:12.59
And we have, again people
coming from all over the place
00:47:12.63\00:47:15.16
as far as Japan
and there's a lot of,
00:47:15.20\00:47:18.00
there's some people
that come from Europe
00:47:18.03\00:47:19.53
and we have a lot that
come from the Caribbean
00:47:19.57\00:47:21.40
and then from the
States, of course, as well.
00:47:21.44\00:47:23.44
And it's just a
tremendous blessing.
00:47:23.47\00:47:27.18
One of the
testimonies that people give,
00:47:27.21\00:47:30.35
one of the most
frequent testimonies
00:47:30.38\00:47:32.28
that people give is
that this is a place on earth
00:47:32.31\00:47:36.38
where it feels like
you're amongst angels
00:47:36.42\00:47:38.82
and it's kind of
like a piece of heaven.
00:47:38.85\00:47:41.66
Now of course, all of us working
00:47:41.69\00:47:43.56
there know that
we're real people.
00:47:43.59\00:47:45.06
You know, real people
have real problems, okay.
00:47:45.09\00:47:47.16
Absolutely.
00:47:47.20\00:47:48.53
And so we kind of
look at each other,
00:47:48.56\00:47:49.90
and scratch our heads,
and we go, "Praise the Lord,"
00:47:49.93\00:47:51.73
because Lord you
have to be the one that's,
00:47:51.77\00:47:53.94
you know, that's doing
that and making it happen,
00:47:53.97\00:47:55.80
but it's truly, truly a blessing
00:47:55.84\00:47:58.77
to be able to
pray with individuals
00:47:58.81\00:48:01.54
and we begin
everything with prayer.
00:48:01.58\00:48:03.14
I mean you began an interview
and you pray with them,
00:48:03.18\00:48:06.05
and you end an interview
and you pray with them,
00:48:06.08\00:48:07.68
you begin a
treatment you pray with them,
00:48:07.72\00:48:09.98
you know, you end the
treatment you pray with them.
00:48:10.02\00:48:11.85
And the Lord has
taught me and has taught us
00:48:11.89\00:48:17.53
so much over these
last few years about
00:48:17.56\00:48:19.59
how to reach
individuals from the heart.
00:48:19.63\00:48:21.26
That's right.
00:48:21.30\00:48:22.63
Because that's really,
really the important part.
00:48:22.66\00:48:25.60
Yes, you can change
the diet and lifestyle.
00:48:25.63\00:48:27.74
Yes, you can make at
least temporary changes,
00:48:27.77\00:48:30.97
but if the heart's not captured
and if it's not changed,
00:48:31.01\00:48:34.88
then you haven't reached
anything of real lasting work.
00:48:34.91\00:48:38.38
That's right.
00:48:38.41\00:48:39.75
Right, you can
have, you know, centers
00:48:39.78\00:48:41.45
that last a few more years
00:48:41.48\00:48:43.08
and then die and
are lost forever.
00:48:43.12\00:48:45.05
We're not
interested in that. Yeah.
00:48:45.09\00:48:46.65
What we're
interested in individuals
00:48:46.69\00:48:48.19
who are coming to
healing physically,
00:48:48.22\00:48:50.16
but healing spiritually as well.
00:48:50.19\00:48:52.19
Their lives may be transformed
00:48:52.23\00:48:55.10
and might be lived to
the glory and honor of God.
00:48:55.13\00:48:57.27
Amen. And it's
just a joy, really.
00:48:57.30\00:49:00.87
It's just a joy to be
able to work with the people
00:49:00.90\00:49:04.01
and the individuals
and see the transformation
00:49:04.04\00:49:07.08
that the Lord brings about...
00:49:07.11\00:49:08.44
Isn't that neat?
Consistently, you know.
00:49:08.48\00:49:09.94
You know, it's neat
too because I think,
00:49:09.98\00:49:11.31
you know, Uchee Pines do,
00:49:11.35\00:49:12.68
you know, you have
the lifestyle center,
00:49:12.71\00:49:14.05
but then you're also, Duthier,
training others to go out
00:49:14.08\00:49:17.29
and affect others
positively too in health.
00:49:17.32\00:49:19.85
And that's great because
sometimes it could be like,
00:49:19.89\00:49:21.46
"Okay, now we don't
want to train anybody else
00:49:21.49\00:49:22.86
because we want
everybody to come to,
00:49:22.89\00:49:24.46
you know, Uchee Pines."
00:49:24.49\00:49:25.83
But, you know, you
can't take care of everybody.
00:49:25.86\00:49:27.56
So I like that ripple effect.
00:49:27.60\00:49:29.33
It just grows
and grows and grows.
00:49:29.36\00:49:30.70
Absolutely.
00:49:30.73\00:49:32.07
So Elder Livermore, I'm
thinking there's someone
00:49:32.10\00:49:33.44
I know we're getting ready
to go to the address break,
00:49:33.47\00:49:34.80
but there's somebody at home
00:49:34.84\00:49:36.17
that is where you were
a number of months ago,
00:49:36.20\00:49:39.17
they're discouraged.
00:49:39.21\00:49:40.54
What would you tell to
that individual right now?
00:49:40.58\00:49:43.35
What would you do
to give them some hope?
00:49:43.38\00:49:46.25
You know, I would tell them
00:49:46.28\00:49:47.62
that you're
never too old to begin
00:49:47.65\00:49:51.65
and to go to
Uchee Pines if you can.
00:49:51.69\00:49:53.99
You know,
there're other institutes
00:49:54.02\00:49:55.36
throughout the country if
you can't come over to our
00:49:55.39\00:49:58.19
where we're in the south,
but give yourself a chance.
00:49:58.23\00:50:01.90
Amen.
00:50:01.93\00:50:03.26
I think we beat
ourselves up, we all work hard,
00:50:03.30\00:50:05.70
you know, we're not
as careful, we, you know,
00:50:05.73\00:50:08.17
we don't have time to eat.
00:50:08.20\00:50:09.54
So we went through a drive
through that kind of thing,
00:50:09.57\00:50:11.74
but it does get away from us.
00:50:11.77\00:50:13.27
Yeah.
00:50:13.31\00:50:14.64
And the blessing that I
have is that it was reversible.
00:50:14.68\00:50:18.88
So, you know, I'm
getting up there in age,
00:50:18.91\00:50:23.02
if I didn't do it at this
time, what would have happened?
00:50:23.05\00:50:27.22
And, you know, I lose
10-15 years of my life
00:50:27.26\00:50:29.76
that I can spend
loving my wife, my kids,
00:50:29.79\00:50:32.33
and, you know, enjoy
retirement, be healthy,
00:50:32.36\00:50:35.73
but it's just
like, it's a lifestyle,
00:50:35.76\00:50:37.10
it's not a diet,
it's a lifestyle.
00:50:37.13\00:50:38.80
Amen. Amen.
00:50:38.83\00:50:40.17
So try it.
00:50:40.20\00:50:41.54
And he doesn't look it, does he?
00:50:41.57\00:50:43.17
But he has
actually grandchildren,
00:50:43.20\00:50:46.27
and he also has
great grandchildren,
00:50:46.31\00:50:48.48
looks good, doesn't he?
00:50:48.51\00:50:49.84
Praise the Lord,
for what he has done
00:50:49.88\00:50:51.78
in your life in a
short period of time
00:50:51.81\00:50:53.28
and before, you
know, a young person,
00:50:53.31\00:50:55.65
you know, like
myself, you know, you can,
00:50:55.68\00:50:58.25
you know, you can get busy.
00:50:58.29\00:50:59.82
You know, the
stresses and different things.
00:50:59.85\00:51:01.79
And I might not
necessarily be overweight,
00:51:01.82\00:51:03.46
but, you know,
there's different stresses
00:51:03.49\00:51:04.83
and it's really, you
mention the connection
00:51:04.86\00:51:06.19
with the Lord Jesus
Christ is first and foremost,
00:51:06.23\00:51:08.93
but then it's just taking
care of our day to day life.
00:51:08.96\00:51:11.17
Amen. That's right.
00:51:11.20\00:51:12.53
Well, what we
wanted to do right now
00:51:12.57\00:51:13.90
is going to the
address roll for Uchee Pines.
00:51:13.94\00:51:15.97
We thank you all for being here,
00:51:16.00\00:51:17.34
and we'll come back at the end
00:51:17.37\00:51:18.71
with a closing
thought from them,
00:51:18.74\00:51:20.08
but I've just been so blessed,
00:51:20.11\00:51:21.51
so blessed hearing
what God is doing in
00:51:21.54\00:51:23.91
and through this ministry.
00:51:23.95\00:51:25.28
And we want to encourage you,
00:51:25.31\00:51:26.65
if you're
struggling with your health,
00:51:26.68\00:51:28.02
if you need to
go to a lifestyle,
00:51:28.05\00:51:29.88
here's the way that you
can contact Uchee Pines,
00:51:29.92\00:51:32.22
if you want to go to
the lifestyle center,
00:51:32.25\00:51:33.69
if you want them to
come speak at your church
00:51:33.72\00:51:36.26
or in your community, if
you want to go to school...
00:51:36.29\00:51:39.06
For the one year, the two
year, the five day seminar,
00:51:39.09\00:51:42.43
if you're
interested in the camp meeting,
00:51:42.46\00:51:44.13
any of those things
that they have to offer.
00:51:44.17\00:51:46.30
If you would like
to financially support,
00:51:46.33\00:51:48.30
here is how you
can do just that.
00:51:48.34\00:51:52.11
Millions in the
western world suffer and die
00:51:52.14\00:51:54.74
from lifestyle
illnesses every year.
00:51:54.78\00:51:57.38
But Uchee
Pine's Lifestyle Center
00:51:57.41\00:51:59.68
is helping their
patients to improve their health
00:51:59.71\00:52:01.88
one choice at a time.
00:52:01.92\00:52:04.22
If you would like to find out
00:52:04.25\00:52:05.59
more about their
lifestyle program,
00:52:05.62\00:52:07.66
visit their
website, UcheePines.org.
00:52:07.69\00:52:11.39
That's UcheePines.org,
or give them a call
00:52:11.43\00:52:16.56
at area code 334-855-3374.
00:52:16.60\00:52:22.24
That's area code 334-855-3374,
00:52:22.27\00:52:27.91
or write them at
30 Uchee Pines Road,
00:52:27.94\00:52:30.55
Seale, Alabama 36875.
00:52:30.58\00:52:34.38