Participants: Greg and Jill Morikone (Host), Ettienne McClintock, John Malkiewycz
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017051A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my word 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:09 We are so glad 01:10 that you have joined us again today. 01:12 Maybe you're listening on 3ABN Radio, watching online, 01:15 of course through television 01:16 but we appreciate you at home 01:19 or wherever you are being part of 3ABN's family 01:22 because it's definitely a team, isn't it? 01:24 Some of you, I know, have stood with 3ABN 01:27 since before 3ABN 01:28 probably really wasn't in existence. 01:30 You've been there with Danny Shelton 01:31 as God was leading him and building this station. 01:33 Thank you for your prayers and financial support 01:35 through all the years 01:36 and some of you maybe have just started. 01:38 Thank you because 01:40 you are making a difference in somebody's life today 01:43 and that's the beautiful thing of 3ABN. 01:45 It's 24 hours a day 01:47 spreading the gospel around the entire world 01:50 and it's neat because even when we're sleeping, 01:53 hopefully you sleep, you should sleep. 01:54 Let's hope so. It's good for you. 01:56 The message is going and that's just, 01:58 it's just powerful 01:59 because here at the office at 3ABN, 02:01 we get letters on a daily basis, 02:04 emails coming of how people 02:06 are accepting the Lord Jesus Christ, 02:07 so it's a blessing. 02:08 So thank you again. 02:10 Now today we have a neat interview. 02:12 It's actually... 02:14 Well, should we tell people who we have here with us? 02:17 We should absolutely because I'm excited about this. 02:21 We have part of the 3ABN team with us here. 02:23 We sure do. 02:24 And you might say, 02:26 "Well I don't see these people all the time 02:28 but that's because they are from down under. 02:31 Down under? Down under. 02:33 Wow. Down under. 02:34 We have part of our 3ABN Australia team here 02:38 and we're focusing specifically 02:39 during this interview about 3ABN Australia Radio 02:42 so I'm excited about what God's doing. 02:45 To find out more about it, 02:47 we have Ettienne McClintock with us 02:48 and you are really in-charge of 3ABN Australia Radio. 02:52 You're producer and host? And host, that's correct, yes. 02:56 It's lovely to be here and finally be on the studio. 02:59 I've seen this so many times over so many years 03:01 and finally to be sitting here and enjoying the studio setup, 03:04 it's magnificent. 03:06 We're very glad that you could actually join us, 03:07 you know, because you're part of the team 03:09 and we'll get a little bit of your story 03:10 and how God has led you to 3ABN Australia Radio 03:14 and it's neat to see how God uses all of us, 03:15 isn't it, to help spread his word. 03:17 Amen. Yeah. 03:18 We have someone sitting next to you 03:20 that is not a stranger to 3ABN. 03:22 It's Mr. John Malkiewycz, you and your wife, 03:24 we appreciate your dedication 03:26 to the Lord's work at 3ABN Australia Radio, television, 03:30 and all that it encompasses, 03:32 you know, to put a lot of time into that. 03:34 It's really a pleasure to be here with the family 03:37 because I see 3ABN as a family, 03:39 and I'm sure you folk out there enjoy 3ABN, 03:42 and we want to be part of finishing the work 03:44 before Jesus comes. 03:46 Amen. Amen. 03:47 I remember years ago, I was at the call center, 03:51 where we were working on some printings, printing, 03:53 I think it was a flier or a magazine 03:55 or something where I saw 03:56 you and your wife's picture years ago. 03:58 You look the same. I like that. 04:00 You're my friend. We're doing well. 04:02 And there was in the picture, 04:04 there was this couple, it was you, you and your wife, 04:06 and I think there were some satellite dishes 04:07 on top of was it a Toyota Land Cruiser? 04:11 It was a shortwave baseline cruiser 04:12 and it hopped like this all across Australia. 04:15 Yes, and I remember the article. 04:17 It was... 04:18 Well, we didn't know who... 04:20 I didn't know really who you were, 04:21 but the work that you were doing was really going around 04:22 all of Australia which is a huge country. 04:25 It's about 20,000 miles that we did 04:27 to circumnavigate the whole of Australia. 04:29 Twenty thousand miles? Yes. 04:31 Wow. 04:32 Setting up satellite dishes for people. 04:34 Yeah. That's right. 04:35 Back then, it wasn't one of those little ones, 04:36 they were eight feet... 04:39 Oh, the big ones. Eight feet in diameter. 04:41 So that little Land Cruiser was so laden, 04:44 it was unbelievable that we did what we did, 04:47 but you know, God had a purpose and he got us around. 04:50 And that was really the beginning of 3ABN Australia 04:52 and it's neat to see what God has done. 04:54 Now to God be the glory, great things he has done. 04:56 That's very exciting. 04:58 We're glad to have both of you here. 04:59 Thank you. 05:01 Yes, we're excited to find out 05:02 more especially about 3ABN Australia Radio 05:04 and what God's doing through the airwaves, 05:06 through the radio. 05:07 Before we go to our music, 05:09 we always want to read a scripture 05:10 and I ask Ettienne, if there is a certain scripture 05:12 that you like with 3ABN Australia Radio 05:15 and this is from Revelation 12:11. 05:19 The Bible says, "And they will proclaim Him 05:21 by the blood of the Lamb 05:23 and by the word of their testimony, 05:26 and they did not love their lives to the death." 05:28 So Ettienne, why does this specific verse, 05:31 why does this verse specifically speak to you 05:33 with 3ABN Australia Radio? 05:35 Look, one of the programs 05:36 we developed at 3ABN Australia Radio is testimonies, 05:39 people sharing their testimonies. 05:41 It's very powerful to see 05:42 how God has intervened in people's lives 05:45 where they've made an absolute U-turn. 05:47 They were walking away from the Lord, 05:48 you know, they were living according to their sensuality, 05:51 you know, all the senses were controlling the mind 05:53 and then seeing God transform and change people's lives. 05:56 That's something 05:57 that somebody can't argue against, 05:58 you know, it changes life as a great witness. 06:01 And here it talks about that it overcame by the blood 06:02 of the Lamb 06:04 because obviously that's Christ 06:05 who justifies us and saves us and makes us holy 06:07 and then the testimonies are another part of it. 06:10 So I believe it's very important 06:11 and, of course, ultimately if they do get tested 06:13 and their faith gets tested, 06:15 they will be prepared to lay down their life, 06:17 because they've already died in Christ. 06:18 Amen. 06:19 So it's a beautiful text and one of our programs 06:22 is actually based on this called 06:24 By the Word of Their Testimony 06:25 where people come and share their testimony 06:26 how God has transformed and changed their lives, 06:29 taken them from being 06:30 miserable people at times to now 06:32 transforming their lives and give them love, joy, 06:34 and peace and purpose in their lives. 06:36 And, you know, and actually 06:38 a little bit later on in the program 06:39 we're going to have a few snippets, 06:40 if that might be a word we could use, 06:42 of some of the programming 06:43 that you are doing and getting ready 06:45 to start airing soon. 06:46 So that's something to look forward here too 06:47 in this program. 06:49 But before we get into 3ABN Australia Radio, 06:51 a little of your testimony, 06:52 we want to go to some music, don't we? 06:54 And we have Steve Darmody with us today. 06:56 And he is going to do the song The Time That Remains. 07:18 I know my days were numbered 07:23 Before I drew my first breath 07:27 And I have no way of knowing 07:30 When I'll close my eyes in death 07:35 I only have this moment 07:39 And before it slips away 07:42 I want to make a difference 07:46 While it's still called 07:49 Today 07:53 In the time that remains 07:58 I will lift high the cross 08:02 And in Jesus' name be a light 08:08 For the lost 08:10 I pray I won't live 08:14 One moment in vain 08:19 For all that I have 08:22 Is the time that remains 08:40 The grains of sand are slipping 08:44 Through the hourglass of time 08:48 As I sift through all the memories 08:52 Of the life I've left behind 08:57 All of my accomplishments 09:00 Will vanish in the wind 09:04 But only what I've done for Christ 09:08 Will matter in the end 09:11 In the time that remains 09:16 I will lift high the cross 09:20 And in Jesus' name be a light 09:26 For the lost 09:28 I pray I won't live 09:32 One moment in vain 09:36 For all that I have is the time 09:42 That remains 09:47 Every minute 09:49 Every hour of every day 09:55 With all my heart and soul 09:58 I know I'll find a way 10:04 In the time that remains 10:08 I will lift high the cross 10:12 And in Jesus' name be a light 10:17 For the lost 10:20 I pray I won't live 10:24 One moment in vain 10:28 For all that I have 10:32 Is the time 10:34 That remains 10:40 For all 10:41 That I have 10:47 Is the time 10:51 That remains 11:19 Amen. Thank you, Steve Darmody. 11:21 We could actually say Pastor Steve Darmody 11:23 because not only does he minister in music 11:25 but he is also a pastor 11:26 in a Seventh-day Adventist Church, 11:27 so it's a blessing. 11:29 Thank you, again for sharing the music with us today. 11:31 You know, time is something we cannot get back, 11:34 you think about that, 11:35 you know, every moment of every day, 11:36 we want to be spending that doing something 11:39 for the Lord Jesus Christ, that's for sure. 11:40 And again if you're joining us, I shouldn't say, 11:43 shame on you but anyway if you've just joined us, 11:45 thank you. 11:46 We are delighted. We are. 11:47 Yeah, that you joined us again today. 11:49 We have Ettienne Mcclintock with us 11:51 and you're head of 3ABN Australia Radio 11:55 and we have John Malkiewycz and you're the general manager. 11:59 He is the head of the head basically. 12:02 There you go. 12:03 Well said of 3ABN Australia, you and your wife, 12:05 and so we appreciate the work that you guys have done for, 12:08 is it 14, 15 years? 12:09 Yes, it is. 12:10 Fourteen years since I've been in Australia. 12:12 It's incredible what God has done for sure. 12:15 Now you've just been put in this position recently. 12:17 You've just joined the staff 12:19 at 3ABN Australia in the last few months. 12:20 That's right. You and your wife. 12:22 Correct. 12:23 You know, before we actually get into the testimony, 12:25 I'm just thinking about radio. 12:26 And so a question that comes to my mind. 12:28 Is radio actually still relevant? 12:30 When you think about technology and how things are going, 12:33 when I think of radio, I think of, 12:35 you know, a little box with, 12:37 you know, an antenna that you pull out 12:38 and they still sell those and you think of long ago 12:41 some people can think of that. 12:43 So someone may say, "Radio? 12:45 Why are we even thinking about radio? 12:48 You know, we're way past that. 12:49 We've got cell phones and all the TV and stuff." 12:52 Look, contrary to the popular opinion 12:55 back in the 80s video didn't kill the radio star. 12:58 Radio is still very important. They're so versatile. 13:01 If you're going to sit in front of a television, 13:02 what you've going to do? 13:03 Sit down and plan the time, you can't really do much. 13:05 A lot of people are now-a-days are on their phone, 13:07 you know, they're sort of multitasking in a way, 13:09 they're watching Facebook, watching a bit of television, 13:12 but with radio, you can work, you can be driving, 13:14 you can be doing other things 13:16 and now you're not supposed to watch television 13:17 while you're driving, That's good. 13:19 So that is a much safer option. Oh, yeah. 13:22 People listen to music, 13:24 they will now stream through Spotify, 13:27 or Stitcher, or Pandora one of those, 13:30 so people... TuneIn. 13:31 TuneIn, yeah, listen to news, music, 13:35 current programs 13:36 that could be to do with talkback radio 13:38 because quite often people are little bit lonely, 13:40 you see and radio can be very, very good company for them. 13:43 For example, we had a lady contact us 13:46 not too long ago saying 13:47 that she used to suffer from nightmares. 13:49 For years, she had problem with nightmares 13:51 and she would be scared to go to sleep 13:53 but she obviously has to sleep, you can't avoid sleeping, 13:56 and every time she sleeps 13:58 she would have these terrible nightmares. 13:59 So then she came across our radio signal 14:02 and started listening to 3ABN Radio 14:05 and she just let that play quietly at night 14:07 while she was sleeping and from then onwards, 14:09 according to her testimony, 14:10 she has had a beautiful night's sleep ever since. 14:12 It's likely that she is inviting 14:14 the presence of the Lord into her home and into her room 14:16 and she just has a great peaceful sleep, 14:18 so even when people are sleeping 14:19 you can't do that, boy, 14:21 I guess, you could do that with a television, 14:22 but the light might keep you awake. 14:24 Right. 14:25 Radio, you can listen to in the dark. 14:26 Very versatile, and we, of course, 14:28 create a lot of programs. 14:29 It could be testimonies, 14:30 it could be even be talkback 14:32 because we do broadcast Bible answers live with Pastor Doug, 14:34 we get it from over here as well, 14:36 so that is a talkback in the sense 14:37 that people ring up and ask questions. 14:39 We also have faith programs, 14:42 you know, just some regards to people's salvation, 14:44 teaching the scriptures, we have science programs, 14:47 we talk about faith and science, 14:48 we talk about evolution and creation, 14:50 and why there is so much evidence 14:52 and belief in creation 14:53 and we also talk about faith and finance, 14:56 and what good stewardship looks like. 14:57 So there's a number of programs that we actually run 15:00 and people are getting good education 15:01 while they're driving around in their cars, 15:03 while they're working in the garden, very versatile. 15:06 Always slightly biased, but still radio, 15:08 radio is number one in my books. 15:10 Yeah, now of course we have 3ABN radio 15:13 as well and so we see definitely, 15:16 I mean, the lord reaches people in many different aspects 15:18 in 3ABN radio and 3ABN... 15:20 Well, we have 3ABN radio Latino and we have Australia as well 15:24 and it definitely has its place in the Lord. 15:26 Well, there's some amazing stories actually. 15:28 I know you're going to share some more with us. 15:30 But let's go back then to a little bit of your story 15:32 so people get to know 15:33 who you are and how the Lord has worked in your life. 15:36 So maybe start out as a young child. 15:38 As a young child? 15:39 Okay, I was born in South Africa 15:40 in Cape Town, beautiful place, 15:42 that's still probably my favorite place 15:43 in the world, maybe slightly biased, 15:45 but it is just a magnificent place. 15:46 Cape Town city is right just off the water 15:49 and then you have this mountain jutting behind it. 15:51 It goes about a mild high. 15:53 And if you go around the coastline 15:55 to the other side from the Bloubergstr 15:56 and, you look across, 15:57 it's flat, flat, flat at the top of the mountain. 16:00 And quite often, you know, 16:01 you have a bit of a cloud cover over it 16:02 so they say the table has been decorated, 16:05 you know, tablecloth on it. 16:07 Beautiful part of the world. 16:08 So I was born there, raised in a Christian home. 16:11 My mum was a fourth generation Sabbath keeper, 16:14 now I don't say Seventh-day Adventist 16:16 because her great grandfather was a Bible student 16:19 and just used to go to church on Sunday. 16:21 And by reading through the Bible a number of times, 16:24 he came to the realization he never saw a change 16:26 from Saturday to Sunday or vice versa, 16:29 all he reads about is the Sabbath 16:31 even in the New Testament. 16:33 So after reading that, 16:34 him and his family started keeping the Sabbath. 16:36 And they didn't even know about Seventh-day Adventist, 16:39 so it was not until a few years later 16:40 that they came across the Adventist faith 16:42 and then joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 16:44 So that's on my mum side and I praise God for that. 16:46 On my dad's side, we were probably, 16:49 how can I put it? 16:50 Yes, we had a heathen background. 16:54 My grandparents never went to church. 16:56 However, in South Africa, 16:57 you know, Bible and school was an important aspect 17:00 even in the government schools. 17:03 They used to have worship in the morning 17:04 so what happens is to be with your friends, 17:05 you would go to church, 17:07 so they'll send them off with five or ten cents 17:08 to put in the offering plate 17:10 and my dad would put in ten cents 17:11 and grab twenty cents change 17:12 because he was quite devious when he was younger. 17:14 What was that, Ettienne? 17:16 He put five cents and take ten cents, right? 17:18 That's right. 17:19 You could take change when you need it. 17:21 He was kind of stealing from the plate as he went by. 17:22 Well, that's right. Yeah, yeah. 17:24 That was a blessing 17:25 but obviously not the one that the Lord had given. 17:28 We definitely don't encourage that. 17:29 We do not encourage that. 17:31 And my grandmother, 17:33 she was actually someone who could tell fortune, 17:35 so she could tell the future. 17:36 She'd read tea leaves and so on. 17:38 And then my Aunts, so... 17:39 Into the occult a bit here. 17:41 Yes, yes, yes, could see spirits, 17:44 they call them ghosts and so, 17:46 but I have full understanding of the occult 17:47 and what evil spirits do and masquerade and so on. 17:50 And then my aunt as well, she got involved. 17:53 She had a familiar spirit with her 17:55 who would go around and even when they moved, 17:57 this being would find her and be with her. 18:00 So what happened was when she finally became 18:02 a Seventh-day Adventist, 18:04 she had a hard time getting out of that 18:05 but God protected and brought her through. 18:07 Praise the Lord. So that was the background. 18:08 My dad saw it, but he finally then became a person 18:11 that went on to study theology and became a pastor 18:14 for 45 years in Australia, New Zealand, 18:16 and in South Africa. 18:17 So I'm a PK. Okay, a preacher's kid. 18:20 That's right. It's neat, isn't it? 18:22 When you look back at how 18:23 God plucks people out of when you say, 18:27 bondage to a Satan and how he is using you now, 18:31 so how did you... 18:32 I mean, I know that we can fast forward, 18:34 but to where you're now at 3ABN Australia Radio, 18:37 how did God bring you to 3ABN Australia? 18:39 Well, actually it goes back a few years 18:41 I think when John and Rosemary started 3ABN, 18:43 it would have been in the early years anyway, 18:45 we had a friend 18:48 who was a pastor and John and Rosemary 18:49 traveled around Australia promoting 3ABN, 18:51 putting in satellite dishes and so on. 18:53 Then we went across to New Zealand. 18:55 We were living... Sorry, I missed that part. 18:56 We lived in New Zealand at that time. 18:57 You were working in New Zealand? 18:59 Yes. 19:00 And you obviously didn't drive your little... 19:01 No. 19:03 We didn't have a propeller on it. 19:05 So you went there to install satellite dishes. 19:07 Yes, we did. And you met Ettienne? 19:08 That's where I met John. 19:10 Now, Rosemary had met my wife prior to that. 19:13 They went to the same church 19:15 in Perth on the western side of Australia, 19:16 WA and so she was happy to catch up 19:19 with Michelle when she heard the name. 19:21 So we met them, they were there for three or four days 19:24 and when we moved to Australia, about four years ago now, 19:27 that's when we caught up with John and Rosemary 19:29 going to same church that we attended. 19:31 And then subsequent to that after John 19:33 got to know me a little better, 19:35 and we took a few Sabbath school lessons 19:36 backwards and forward. 19:37 He probably felt confident enough to ask me 19:39 to become part of the committee or the board. 19:40 The board. 19:42 So I've been in the board for almost, 19:43 it would be close to two years no, John? 19:44 Getting close. Yeah. 19:46 And subsequent to that, 19:47 I left my work with Sanitarium Health and Wellbeing 19:49 which is part 19:50 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church's health work 19:53 and then John said, 19:54 "Look, we may have an opportunity for you on radio 19:56 if you consider that." 19:57 And one thing led to another and a few months ago, 20:00 I started with radio. 20:01 Amen. 20:03 I wonder before we get into the radio aspect 20:04 I just want to take you back for one more moment. 20:06 So you were raised as a pastor's kid, right? 20:09 From the age of 10. 20:11 My dad went to study as an adult student, 20:13 went to study the Bible when I was about six years old 20:15 at Helderberg College, 20:17 the Seventh-day Adventist College 20:18 down the bottom of South Africa, yeah. 20:20 So then did you remain a Seventh-day Adventist? 20:23 Were you committed? 20:24 Did you fall in love with Jesus 20:26 and remained a Seventh-day Adventist 20:27 through those years or was there some time 20:29 when you had a little wandering experience? 20:31 I had a few wandering experiences, 20:33 come to the lord, wander, and come and so on. 20:35 But what happened is at the age of 15, 20:36 I actually got baptized, 20:38 and I was very sincere at that time 20:40 but I didn't understand the gospel. 20:41 Now I was even saved 20:43 because my dad's the person who baptized me. 20:44 I was his first baptismal candidate. 20:46 The second person he baptized was 82 years old 20:48 but I was the first one. 20:49 Wow, that's sweet. 20:51 Yes, 15 to 82 is quite a spread. 20:53 And I was about 8 to 10 when I was baptized that day. 20:55 And I said to my dad, 20:56 "Look, why do I need to get baptized? 20:58 I've been brought up 20:59 in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, 21:00 I mean, I'm here, I've arrived. 21:02 Why do I need to get baptized? 21:03 I understand if people come from, 21:05 you know, from secularism or they come from, 21:07 you know, some funny beliefs 21:09 or they come from other Christian denominations." 21:11 I understand why they needed 21:12 that rite of passage into the church 21:14 but I'm here, I was born there, 21:15 my mother was born in the church, 21:17 her father was born in the church. 21:18 I didn't understand that, 21:20 but I knew there was a rite of passage 21:21 and that's how you get your membership, 21:22 so many got baptized. 21:24 And I understood, you know, 21:25 some of the fundamental beliefs, 21:26 I understood Daniel and the Revelation, 21:28 the typical programs that we would go through, 21:30 but I didn't understand the significance of baptism, 21:33 that baptism actually means 21:35 that you baptize into the death of Christ 21:37 and then when you raise your body, 21:38 you rise to a new life and a new life in Christ 21:40 that buried with Him 21:42 and raised as it says in Romans 6. 21:44 And I spoke to my dad about it, 21:45 funny enough only a number of months ago, 21:47 and he said, "Funny, we spoke about being born again 21:49 but we didn't really understand 21:51 when we were preaching at that time." 21:53 So I actually got re-baptized probably around 21:55 about the age of 30-ish... 21:58 Mm-hm. 21:59 Yeah because I had some wanderings. 22:00 At the age of 21, for example, 22:02 I started getting into some evolutionary, 22:05 not evolutionary but atheistic beliefs. 22:07 I had never adopted evolution as such because 22:10 I didn't have enough faith for evolution. 22:12 Right. No, that makes sense. 22:14 But in regards to is there a God, 22:16 I couldn't explain our existence, 22:17 how we got to be here because I had some friends 22:19 who were at the university and I had some influences. 22:22 And then at the age of 21, still going to church, 22:25 but at the age of 21, 22:26 we had an evangelist come to our town in New Zealand, 22:28 I was living in Christchurch at the time, 22:30 his name is Pastor Jeff Youlden, 22:31 he does some work with 3ABN. 22:33 He does. 22:34 And anyway so I went to go and support the programs 22:36 and help out with some assuring and that sort of thing, 22:38 you know, and I'm listening 22:39 to all these testimonies regarding prophesy, 22:43 so he is doing Daniel and Revelation 22:44 but he got into Ezekiel and Jeremiah 22:46 and he is talking about what happened to Tyre 22:49 and some of these other places in Babylon 22:50 and I'm just blown away. 22:52 I'm convinced. 22:53 For some reason, I haven't seen this before to their clarity 22:56 but God, there is a God 22:58 that knows the end from the beginning. 22:59 That's right. 23:00 You can actually test that there is a God 23:02 and Christianity is the only religion 23:04 that you can actually test through prophesy. 23:06 And I was just blown, 23:07 I was convinced, there is a God. 23:09 And from then onwards, 23:10 you know, I started just getting 23:12 into a deep relationship with the Lord, 23:13 sometimes wandered away, come back, 23:14 deeper relationship with the Lord, 23:16 get distracted again, 23:18 and then come back deeper relationship 23:19 with the Lord. 23:21 So it's probably about three waves 23:22 that I can mention where I've walked away 23:25 but, you know, there is a text that says in Proverbs 24:16 23:27 that the righteous man falls seven times, 23:30 but he doesn't only get up six times, 23:32 he gets up the seventh time as well. 23:34 So I praise God, you know, 23:35 that his grace is sufficient for us 23:37 even though sometimes we do wander away, 23:38 when we walk away, 23:40 when we don't appreciate how much he means to us 23:42 that in him we live and move and have our being, 23:46 you know, I've come to appreciate 23:47 that so much and love that so much 23:49 and just to have the opportunity 23:50 and I'm very grateful to John to have the opportunity 23:52 to share that across the airwaves, 23:54 what a blessing, you know, 23:56 I'm one of the least that should be in that position 23:58 but by the grace of God as Paul says, 24:00 "We are what we are and God uses us." 24:02 He can even speak through a donkey 24:03 sometimes when he is a rebellious prophet 24:05 so why can't God speak to us. 24:07 Well, I think the key to it is when God calls you, 24:09 you know, He is going to equip you. 24:10 That's right. Amen. 24:11 If you feel, you know, that you don't have the skills 24:13 which God has given you skills obviously, 24:14 I can see that but, you know, 24:16 He is equipping you so and your wife, 24:18 I know you're married. 24:19 I think we have a picture of you and your wife 24:21 so that you guys have been married now, is it 20... 24:24 We're hitting quarter of a century, yeah. 24:26 Aw, how precious. What's her name? 24:30 Her name is Michelle, Michelle Joy. 24:32 And she is the joy of my name. It's her middle name. 24:35 I think every husband could say that or should say that. 24:38 Amen. 24:39 And I would second, third, and fourth that. 24:41 For sure. 24:42 And I've got good taste, So I'm sure be heard. 24:45 And then I think we also have a picture of you behind the... 24:49 The microphone. The FM Radio. 24:51 Oh, yes. That's in the studio, yes. 24:52 This is in the studio there. 24:54 So this is when I do some half hour program 24:55 so I just sit behind the program, studio then, 24:58 I can do, well, the management of the sound. 25:00 But when we do interviews and so forth, 25:01 we use the studio next door. 25:03 There's little glass panel just behind the mic 25:04 that you can just make it out. 25:06 And we can have five people 25:07 in there and do a good program. 25:09 So a question for you, John, I'm thinking back to you know, 25:12 the television, you and your wife 25:13 have been doing this for a while 25:15 but to head into radio, 25:16 where did you start getting that impression of the Lord 25:19 to actually start going 25:20 in this direction several years ago. 25:22 You know, when we traveled around Australia, 25:24 we came across a lot of towns way out in the outback 25:30 and out in the remote areas 25:32 and they have a little church 25:34 and I began to think when I discovered, 25:36 I discovered we knew about TV when we discovered radio, 25:39 I began to think, Lord, 25:41 you know, there is a huge potential in radio. 25:44 Absolutely huge because I thought here we're are, 25:46 we're in a community, there is a church, 25:49 there is only a handful of church members. 25:52 If we could get a license to put an antenna and transmit 25:56 from that church in that community, 25:58 I began to think the people would get to another pastor, 26:02 the people would get to know 26:03 what the Seventh-day Adventist people 26:06 are doing in that community 26:07 and I thought this is just unbelievable. 26:10 So in our first trip we told the pastors, 26:13 you need to get a license, you can have 3ABN Radio. 26:16 Now, at that time it was 3ABN USA feed, okay, 26:21 coming through the satellite. 26:22 And I said to them, 26:24 "Look you only need to do one hour a week, 26:26 just one hour a week. 26:27 Put your Sabbath sermon on 26:29 and then you've got 3ABN programming 26:31 for the rest 24x7. 26:34 And so we started to tell pastors. 26:36 Some were interested. 26:38 We started off the 3ABN dish initiative 26:41 for people to get television but also to get radio 26:44 so they could listen and see 3ABN programming. 26:48 It was really exciting, you know, to... 26:51 But we went and we went from one place to the other. 26:54 The Lord led us and, you know, 26:56 it's been over the years 26:58 we've slowly built up a number of affiliates 27:01 and when we built our studio, 27:03 but in there in the initial planning 27:06 I said, "Lord, we got to have a radio studio." 27:08 So by faith. By faith. 27:10 We didn't have money to equip it. 27:11 There is our ability up the top 27:14 and about the middle at the back 27:15 there is a radio studio 27:17 and it's fitted out wonderfully. 27:20 Now, let me tell you it sat there empty 27:22 for the first few months 27:24 and someone coming along 27:26 who is now one of our affiliates 27:27 has a number of stations 27:29 that he transmits around Australia 27:31 and he said, "John, I've got some money. 27:33 I want to give you some money." 27:35 He came in and saw the place was empty, 27:38 you know, and he is a wonderful man. 27:39 So he was like we need to fill this with equipment. 27:42 So he gave us the money and it's amazing. 27:45 Someone came in to look at our studios 27:48 and he didn't say anything, we showed him the radio, 27:50 this is where we're going to have radio. 27:52 And, you know, a few weeks later he rang up. 27:55 He says, I'm retiring, 27:56 I feel God is leading me to come and be involved. 28:01 And so I said okay. He came in as a volunteer then? 28:04 He wanted to come as a volunteer 28:06 and so we went out in faith, bought the equipment, 28:09 he came down and radio commenced 28:12 and it has just grown and grown and grown. 28:15 What year was that? 28:16 That was back four years ago... 28:18 Sorry two and a half years ago. 28:20 Okay. Yeah. 28:21 So it's grown. 28:22 He stayed for a period of time 28:24 and then we had another young man come. 28:27 He got married only a couple of months ago, 28:30 so when you get married your life changes. 28:32 And they are called by the Lord. 28:34 They are called by the Lord. 28:35 And Pokar Chansky was his name. 28:38 Australian people who listen to radio 28:39 would know his name. 28:40 He married a lovely young lady, Cali, 28:43 and they're going to go into another direction of work 28:45 and so Ettienne came on the scene, and I thought, 28:48 "Well, this man has a good grasp of scripture," 28:52 and so we've gone down that road. 28:55 And he has been part of your board or committee 28:57 as you call the 3ABN Australia board 28:59 for a number of years and has a good understanding 29:01 of the ministry there and that's important. 29:02 Amen, that is. 29:04 You know, I want to tell you 29:05 a little bit about LPON licenses. 29:06 They're only one watt. Is it LPON? 29:11 LPON, yeah. LPON, okay. 29:13 Low power open narrowcasting services. 29:16 So this would be like a church would have one of these? 29:18 You could have one on a church but there is a problem 29:21 because our Regulatory Authority, 29:23 the ACMA, the Australian Communications 29:25 and Media Authority, they regulate very closely. 29:29 You can't just get a license 29:32 and put up a transmitter and transmit. 29:34 It's all controlled by the other one 29:36 watt stations around you. 29:38 Where ATN comes from New Zealand, 29:39 you don't need a license for one watt, 29:42 so you're able to transmit. 29:43 Anybody could then just... 29:45 Yeah, yeah. 29:46 Just got to make sure your feed doesn't infringes somebody else 29:48 is currently broadcasting. 29:50 You drive around your car, have a listen, 29:51 if you find an open frequency 29:54 you can just start broadcasting. 29:56 But Australia is not like that. 29:57 No, Australia is very regulated. 29:59 So 3ABN Australia has one... 30:02 We have two IAM licenses and they're on the west coast, 30:06 they're 400 watts IAM licenses 30:09 and one of those has been going now, 30:11 it's seven years and people really enjoy 30:16 so much so we got emails coming from South Africa, 30:20 from Denmark It reaches South Africa. 30:21 It reaches there. 30:23 They say, we're listening to your station. 30:24 Incredible. 30:26 And generally that would travel 30, 20 miles 30:30 but in the evenings it goes wherever God wants it to go. 30:32 I was going to say, "God has taken that signal 30:34 and just bouncing along to whoever needs it. 30:36 Three hundred miles away they can be listening to it 30:38 in the evenings so it's pretty exciting. 30:40 So with an affiliate, 30:41 you were talking about affiliates, 30:43 how many affiliates do you have now for 3ABN Australia Radio? 30:45 We have probably around about 40 30:47 and it's about 85 stations 30:49 that we currently have registered on our website. 30:51 Amen. 30:53 So those are LPON stations or... 30:54 They are LPON except for one station 30:56 out of Bundaberg, 30:57 that is a commercial station 30:59 and we have an agreement with them 31:01 from Sunday night 8 pm till 6 am in Bundaberg. 31:05 We actually broadcast on this station 31:07 and that's a high powered station 31:09 and that's Sunday to Thursdays. 31:10 So what Ettienne was saying, 31:12 there are 85 transmitters out there re-broadcasting 3ABN 31:16 and actually there is more 31:18 because some we're working on 31:19 and that number has grown from a small number, 31:22 now it will be close to 100. 31:24 Yeah, probably around the 100 mark, yeah. 31:26 And I just want to say 31:27 that when 3ABN Radio came into Australia, 31:31 I met a young pastor name Pastor Christian Capacheno 31:35 and he was in Victoria 31:36 and he invite us over to share about 3ABN. 31:39 So I got him interested in radio 31:41 because he wanted to get TV going in his area, 31:44 but we said you can't 31:45 because the regulations are so strict. 31:48 So I remember driving to a radio station 31:50 and said this is what you can do. 31:52 And you know what? 31:53 We told him as much as we could, 31:55 he got a Faith FM, 31:57 they call it Faith FM going and he bought 10 licenses 32:02 and then he got more licenses, 32:04 he got 100 licenses 32:06 and he was broadcasting 3ABN USA. 32:10 They still do. Yeah. 32:12 They were doing about 80%. 32:14 It's now owned 32:15 by the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 32:17 They bought it from him 32:19 and they're now running in parallel with us 32:24 3ABN Australia and Faith FM. 32:28 They use... 32:30 Now it's getting lower, 32:31 they're starting to make more their own progress 32:33 but they still use 60 to 70% of 3ABN USA radio programming 32:38 and it's reaching across Australia. 32:39 So we've got a broad net 32:41 with 3ABN programming around Australia. 32:44 We often get phone calls from people 32:46 who are confused between Faith FM 32:47 because they hear 3ABN USA all the time 32:49 and then we ask, what was that program, 32:51 and then we have to go and figure out, 32:52 oh, no, that was Faith FM 32:54 but it's great that in Australia 32:55 which is quite a secular country 32:56 that you have a couple of options proclaiming 32:59 the three angels' messages there, 33:00 the everlasting gospel and they have a reach in place 33:03 where we don't have a reach quite often. 33:05 That's right. It's wonderful. 33:06 It's a real blessing. 33:07 So tell me some of the pros and cons 33:09 of the LPON you call it? 33:10 LPON. 33:12 So tell me the pros and cons of that, 33:13 and then if someone can't get that, 33:15 then how else will they be able to listen 33:17 to 3ABN Australia Radio. 33:19 Well, look LPON is great for smaller towns 33:21 or if you have a little community church 33:22 and we want to broadcast from it. 33:24 It's one watt. 33:25 What's the footprint real quick. 33:27 How far does that go? 33:28 Well, it's legally 33:29 it has complete open audibility, 33:33 sorry, for about two miles. 33:36 Okay, so very small. It's very small. 33:38 But the higher you go, 33:39 the further they will reach the footprint. 33:41 Height is might. Yeah. 33:42 Okay. 33:43 So you have that so if you're in a small town, 33:45 you can drive around, 33:46 you can be in your home and you can listen to it, 33:47 but if you get into bigger places, 33:49 you know, people travel a little bit further typically 33:51 so they will only have coverage for a small area 33:53 and then it will drop out. 33:54 So what we recommend 33:56 is they either download the 3ABN app, 33:59 now they can get television and radio on this 34:01 so they can stream all our radio stations 34:04 including 3ABN Australia and 3ABN USA. 34:06 The other option is you can go 34:08 to what they call TuneIn Radio app, 34:10 a lot of people have TuneIn. 34:12 We have it. Yeah, I use it all the time. 34:14 I'll just have some easy access buttons on my phone 34:16 on the front screen 34:18 and then I can just tune into that 34:19 or even Faith FM sometimes or 3ABN USA, 34:22 so that's a great way, 34:24 and the other option is you can actually 34:25 just go online with the URL 34:27 and I think we'll post that on the screen very shortly 34:30 and you can actually then just listen 34:32 and stream the program on that. 34:34 So what we actually do is, I've got a little... 34:36 So why don't we read that off 34:38 so we can see on the lower third here. 34:39 So we have 3ABNAustralia.org.au/radio/list 34:46 That's correct. Yes. 34:47 And I actually have a little app on my phone here 34:49 that I can go just online and check 34:50 and see how many people are online at times, 34:52 you know, so it's great to see. 34:54 So anybody listening through the internet 34:56 whether it be on L app or on TuneIn app 34:59 or just via internet browser, 35:02 we can see how many people 35:03 are on at the same time, that's fantastic. 35:05 Amen. 35:06 You know, and that is a neat thing of radio 35:07 because we're talking again about the relevancy of radio, 35:09 you know, you think of the... 35:11 I'm just, call me old timer radio, 35:12 I still have one, so I guess I'm grading myself, 35:15 but really radio can be listened to now 35:17 on our mobile devices which is really neat 35:19 because again for those 35:21 that may have data restrictions, 35:22 I don't know if you do in Australia 35:23 on the mobile devices 35:25 you know, radio requires a lot less data to stream 35:28 than if you're trying to watch television, 35:29 so there is a lot of accessibility 35:32 via mobile device as well. 35:33 Yes, you want to say something? 35:35 Yeah, I want to say something 35:36 because we have an app too on our phone 35:38 when we travel, 35:39 Australia is a lot of miles and you're away 35:42 but when we go to the app, 35:44 we put on the 3ABN music channel. 35:45 Now that's just come on and folks 35:47 that is absolutely fantastic. 35:49 Especially when you're driving, 35:50 if you just wanna listen 35:52 to some good music that's uplifting, 35:55 go on there and listen to it. 35:58 Yeah, for sure. 35:59 So talk to us about the intent and the content 36:02 because what you put as far as content 36:05 on 3ABN Australia Radio is so vital. 36:07 I know we faced 36:08 that with television and radio here. 36:10 You want to be careful what content you're giving. 36:13 So talk to us about that. 36:14 Look, I don't think our vision has changed much 36:16 from Danny Shelton 36:17 who started 3ABN television many, many years ago, 36:20 so 32 years or whatever it is now. 36:23 So he had this dream 36:24 about counteracting the counterfeit. 36:26 I think it's our responsibility to give the message 36:28 that God has given us for this planet at this time. 36:33 And I actually just wanted to differentiate 36:34 that because quite often people think, 36:36 "Well the gospel is the gospel, 36:37 it's been the gospel since the reformation 36:38 since the 16th century," 36:40 but it has got a different emphasis. 36:42 And people say listen, 36:44 I preach the gospel of the reformers 36:45 and I preach the gospel 36:46 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, 36:48 it's one and the same thing. 36:49 There is a difference. 36:51 And the difference is basically 36:52 that we believe the three angels' messages 36:53 which is in your name 3ABN Australia 3ABN Radio, 36:58 in that name God gave a message with three angels. 37:01 There is a first angel, a second angel, 37:02 and the third angel but the first angel... 37:04 Maybe we can go to the scriptures 37:05 and let's have a look at that. 37:07 The first angel actually brings the everlasting gospel 37:10 but it gives a timeframe or framework for it. 37:15 We're in Revelation 14? We're in Revelation 14, yes. 37:18 You've been there before obviously. 37:20 Now the three angels' messages 37:22 actually start in Revelation 14:6-12 37:26 but it actually doesn't end there 37:27 because what happens 37:29 is the harvest follows subsequent 37:31 to the messages so the messages 37:32 are to prepare people for the coming of Christ. 37:34 Now if you want to know when the harvest is, 37:37 Jesus said that the harvest is the end of the world 37:40 and we can get that in Matthew 13:39 37:42 where Jesus makes that distinction very clearly 37:44 when He speaks of the harvest. 37:46 And the harvest is mentioned from about verse 14 onwards. 37:48 But just reading from Revelation 14:6, it says, 37:52 "Then I saw another angel flying 37:54 in the midst of heaven having the everlasting gospel." 37:57 So it's the gospel, 37:59 the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. 38:00 The word gospel obviously means good news. 38:02 It's good news for everybody 38:04 that Christ has come to redeem and save us, 38:06 and then it says 38:07 "To preach to those who dwell on the earth 38:09 and then it says that without exclusion 38:11 to every nation, tribe, tongue, 38:12 and people saying with a loud voice," 38:14 so this is not a squeak, it's not a whisper... 38:16 It's not quiet. It's not quiet. 38:17 It's quite loud, 38:19 and it says then fear God and give glory to Him, 38:22 and then the next one is I want to bring our attention to. 38:25 It says, "For the hour of His Judgment has come." 38:29 So what we're doing or what we're seeing here 38:31 is the message proclaimed during a judgment hour setting. 38:35 Now the judgment hour precedes the harvest. 38:38 So if you give the same message as the reformers gave us, 38:40 not the same message as ours 38:42 because the emphasis is different. 38:43 Now, there is a thing in the Bible known... 38:45 There's a concept known as present truth. 38:48 Now, we don't preach the message of Noah. 38:49 He was a preacher of righteousness 38:51 and so are we. 38:52 But his message was, "If you want to be saved, 38:53 get into the ark." 38:55 We don't say get into the ark now although 38:56 we can use it in a symbolic way. 38:58 So that was a truth for their time. 39:00 In Jesus' day, of course it was, 39:02 He is the Messiah and they look at Him and go, 39:04 well, He's just an ordinary peasant looking man, 39:06 how can He be the Messiah, 39:07 'cause they were expecting someone with kingly authority 39:10 that will conquer the Romans and they misunderstood Him, 39:13 but yet that was where they had their vote, 39:15 whether they will accept the Messiah or not. 39:17 Now in our time we're to prepare 39:18 for the second coming of Christ 39:20 but it says that the harvest won't come 39:22 until this maturity. 39:24 Now, the reformers actually had a message 39:26 where they preached to prepare people to be... 39:31 How can I put it? 39:32 They die in Christ 39:33 and they get ready for the resurrection. 39:35 They basically were preparing for the underground to heaven 39:37 so to speak, six foot under. 39:38 That makes sense. Yeah. 39:40 But we're actually to prepare for translation. 39:42 Now, the word Seventh-day Adventist, 39:44 obviously seventh day talks about 39:45 the emphasis of the Sabbath, 39:46 that's a symbol that we're not saved by works 39:48 that we rest in Christ because it's a day of rest, 39:51 but it's also a sign that God is the one who sanctifies 39:55 and makes us holy, as also sign of creation, 39:57 a sign that He recreates us. 39:59 So when it comes to the second part of that, 40:02 so we have the Sabbath 40:03 but we also have the Adventist's path. 40:05 Adventist's path is for people 40:06 who believe in the imminent return of Jesus Christ. 40:08 That's right. Correct. 40:10 We're not preparing for death. 40:12 We believe that we should be in the generation 40:13 who are preparing for translation. 40:15 So the emphasis of the gospel is very different. 40:19 You know, and I think it's very important for us 40:21 as Seventh-day Adventist, 40:23 if we are to present the message 40:24 that we understand our own identity as a people, 40:28 we understand our mission, and also our message. 40:32 Now we believe our message is the everlasting gospel 40:34 in the judgment hour setting, that is our message. 40:37 If you want to know our identity, 40:39 we just go a few verses back in Revelation 10. 40:42 Now Revelation 10 40:44 actually talks about this mighty angel 40:46 that comes down from heaven. 40:48 It's interesting whenever you read in Revelation 40:49 when the mighty angel comes down from heaven, 40:51 it's got a very, very important message to bring. 40:53 We see it in Revelation 18 as well. 40:55 And if you study it with attention, 40:57 it repeats the three angels' messages 40:59 but under great authority and great power 41:02 and this angel is even louder than the first angel. 41:05 So this angel comes down from heaven 41:07 and it says that he is clothed with the cloud, 41:09 he's got a rainbow around his head, 41:11 and then it says in verse 2 there 41:13 that he had a little book open in his hand 41:15 and then he set his right foot on the sea, 41:16 his left foot on the land, 41:18 and he cry out with a loud voice. 41:20 Now when he cried with a loud voice, 41:22 there was another emphasis, another voice that came. 41:25 It says seven thunders uttered their voice. 41:28 Now, what happens as John the Revelator 41:29 is about to write down what the seven thunders said 41:31 and it said now seal it up, you can't... 41:33 Don't write that, seal it up. 41:35 We believe that's events 41:37 that took place under the first and second angel's message. 41:39 But the sealing up should remind us of something 41:42 because there was another book 41:44 that was sealed up in the Bible as well 41:45 which was to be unsealed at the end of time. 41:48 So the sealing up first gets our mind 41:49 or our attention to that 41:51 and then we read in verse 5 41:52 which says the angel whom I saw standing on the sea 41:55 and on the land raised up his hand to heaven 41:57 and swore by him who lives forever. 41:59 So we have a sealing up, 42:00 we have an angel that raises his hand, 42:03 and then swears by Him who lives forever. 42:05 Now, that's supposed to take our mind back 42:07 to the Book of Daniel. 42:08 It was in Daniel 12 we also have this man, 42:11 the man there is actually the angel Gabriel 42:13 who then lifts up both his hands and sways. 42:16 But this angel can only lift the one hand 42:18 because there is now a book that was closed 42:19 that's now open in his hand, 42:21 that is referring to the sealing, 42:23 it's unsealed and he swears by Him 42:25 who lives for ever and ever. 42:27 Now, the angel who swore with both hands in Daniel 12 42:33 said that there will be time, times, and half a time, 42:35 so it is a prophetic time period. 42:38 Sure is. 42:40 This angel here if we read with attention in verse 7, 42:44 it says... 42:45 Sorry 9:6 it says, 42:47 "And he swore by Him who lives for ever and ever, 42:49 who created the heavens and the things 42:51 that are in it, in the earth and the things that are in it, 42:54 and the sea and the things that are in it, 42:56 that there should be delay no longer," 42:58 or if you look at the King James says, 42:59 "Should be time no longer." 43:01 Now, the angel is swearing, 43:03 he has got this book open in his hand, 43:04 one hand to heaven and it's now that time period 43:08 that unlocks the book 43:10 and the time should be no longer... 43:11 This is now happening at the end of that time period, 43:13 that prophetic time period. 43:15 So what happens is then the John the Revelator is told, 43:18 take that little book out of the angel's hand and eat it. 43:20 And as he takes it from the angel, the angel says, 43:22 "Listen, when you're going to eat it, 43:24 it will be bitter in your stomach 43:26 but it will be sweet as honey in your mouth." 43:27 So he eats it and he gets exactly that experience 43:30 whereby eating the Book of Daniel 43:32 which is a prophetic book, 43:34 there is somehow a sweet experience 43:36 when they eat it and they study the book 43:38 but they experience something very bitter, 43:40 they call the bitter disappointment. 43:41 That's right. 43:43 You know, and then the Bible 43:44 from time to time God's followers, 43:46 God's people have had times 43:47 when they had bitter experiences. 43:49 For example, we know that in Jesus' day 43:51 they thought He would be the one 43:52 that would conquer the Romans 43:54 and on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24, 43:57 the disciples are walking and they said, 44:00 we thought He would be the one 44:01 that will set us free and would redeem us. 44:03 So really the intent for 3ABN, I mean all the 3ABN as a whole, 44:08 the whole family of networks 44:09 but specifically radio today is to spread 44:11 the three angels' message, right? 44:14 And we're in time unheralded before, 44:17 I mean we're in unprecedented time, 44:19 that's what I'm thinking of 44:21 where I think we only have 44:22 a small window of opportunity left 44:24 where we can continue to spread this gospel 44:26 and that's what you guys are doing and it 44:27 is just fantastic. 44:29 And, of course, the mission is we got to prophesy again 44:31 which is the last finishing chapter, 44:32 chapter 10 there. 44:33 Because we wanted to get to some of the content. 44:35 Go ahead, John, 'cause I have a couple of clips 44:36 that we want to get you and that's some of the content 44:39 so maybe set that up for us a little bit 44:40 where we're getting ready to listen to. 44:43 Now, it's interesting on television 44:44 we're actually just going to go to graphic here, 44:46 but you actually get to listen to 44:47 some clips of 3ABN Australia Radio program 44:50 and that's coming up. 44:51 That's right. 44:53 So we're obviously making programs 44:54 and we're trying to reach people in a variety of ways. 44:55 This one is a young lady who actually quite often gets 44:58 in front of young people in schools 44:59 and she presents a first person narrative of Bible stories 45:03 and she has gleaned the information from the Bible 45:04 and the Spirit of Prophecy, 45:06 so we had some recordings with them before, 45:07 how can we just help full brain interaction? 45:11 Now, left brain, right brain, 45:12 so we've added a little bit of sound effects 45:14 and a little bit of music to it. 45:15 Good. So we just have a clip now. 45:17 What's the name of the program? 45:18 The program is Family Story Time. 45:19 Nice. Okay? 45:21 Yeah. Well let's go to that now. 45:22 Okay. 45:26 Welcome to Family Story Time with Karlie Fraser. 45:29 Join us as we step back in time to hear about Pilate's wife. 45:35 Hi, I'm Pontius Pilate's wife 45:38 and I would like to invite you on a journey with me 45:40 back to the Passover weekend 45:42 to maybe share a bit of a different perspective with you. 45:45 Come join me. 45:51 Take it straight to him. It's critical. 45:55 We must have nothing to do with this man. 46:01 Have you ever had a dream about someone 46:03 and as a result felt a certain way towards them 46:07 when you wake up? 46:08 Sent to this earth to save humanity, 46:11 I saw him standing on trial in the judgment hall 46:15 with His hands bound behind Him like a criminal. 46:19 I saw Him amidst to Herod 46:21 and his henchmen being beaten and mocked. 46:25 I can still hear the echo of accusations 46:29 by the priests and Jewish leaders. 46:31 We have a law and by our law, 46:36 He ought to die. 46:39 I saw my husband after declaring, 46:42 he found no fault in Jesus. 46:45 Order him to be flogged with a lead-tipped whip. 46:50 Jesus stood there back covered in lacerations 46:55 and face shining with an incomprehensible peace. 47:01 And Pilate sat there in the judgment seat 47:05 and sentenced an innocent man to death. 47:11 Nice. That's beautiful. That's an incredible program. 47:14 Yes, so that's the first part of the program. 47:15 Now, she had these programs pre-prepared 47:20 so some of them run 18 minutes, some of them run 10 minutes 47:22 depending on this little sermonette 47:23 on how long time she has available, 47:25 so what we did, we tried to create a half hour program 47:28 so our intent was how do we expand these 47:31 and I met a couple of lovely guys 47:32 who've got a podcast on 47:34 which they call after the sermon podcast 47:36 so I ask these guys the first year 47:39 theology students at Avondale College, 47:41 I said would you guys mind to come 47:43 and do a Bible study on each of the topics 47:44 that she presented 47:45 so with the second clip is actually these guys 47:47 just doing a little bit of introduction, 47:48 we've added a little bit of sound effects 47:50 to that as well so you'll hear. 47:51 And this would fill for your half hour slot. 47:53 That takes us to full half hour. 47:54 Sometimes a five minute study, sometimes a 12 minute study. 47:56 That's a great idea, I like it. 47:58 Okay, let's go to that clip now. 48:00 Let's join Christopher and Jessie 48:01 as they open the Bible to discuss today's story. 48:05 Thank you Karlie for that inspirational story 48:08 about Pilate's wife. 48:09 Now let's delve into the Bible 48:11 to learn more about Jesus Christ the Messiah. 48:14 Hey, Chris, when you imagine a king, 48:16 what image do you first see in your mind? 48:19 Well, I see a king sitting on a throne 48:22 wearing a royal crown. 48:24 His shoulders are probably back. 48:26 His chest is out, chin up, 48:28 and he holds a royal sceptre in his hand. 48:31 Now with that sceptre he's probably controlling 48:33 an enormous army riding into battle, 48:35 a magnificent white horse. 48:40 Well, that idea is very similar 48:42 to how the Jews thought the Messiah would be. 48:44 They thought he would be a king and ride into Jerusalem 48:47 as a conqueror saving them from the Romans 48:50 and establishing a new kingdom that would last forever. 48:55 Okay, that sounds really good but who was this Messiah? 48:59 Well, the first time we ever hear about the Messiah 49:01 is way back in Genesis 3 49:03 right after Adam and Eve have eaten the forbidden fruit 49:06 and sin has entered the world. 49:09 Well, that's incredible. Good job. 49:10 And this is done in your studio, right? 49:13 That's right. Fantastic. 49:14 So just quickly here, I know, boy, 49:16 our time has just gone by quickly. 49:17 We're getting ready to go to an address roll, 49:18 we'll tell you about that in a moment 49:20 but the percentage of the programming 49:22 that you produce 49:24 or that you air is produced out of your studio 49:26 where we are on that? 49:27 Okay, so we're still developing some programs 49:29 that being one of them. 49:30 We've probably got about 25% content which is local. 49:32 We still rely very much on the great content 49:34 out of the USA for the rest of it. 49:37 Now, we want to go, we want to expand, 49:39 but we not only want to expand, 49:40 we want to share with the USA 49:42 and that's part of what we do with 3ABN TV. 49:45 We are adding to your library. 49:47 And I think that's fantastic 49:48 because really that's what it's all about. 49:50 You know, we're working together as a team. 49:52 You down under... 49:53 I don't know what we're called, are we up? 49:55 You're up over. Up over? 49:58 But yeah, it's about sharing back and forth, 50:00 so we appreciate it in the work that you're doing 50:01 and it's exciting what's going on there, 50:03 and I know that you are going to continue 50:05 to produce more and more programming. 50:07 Tell us about some of your needs. 50:09 I know we just have a moment left, 50:10 so tell us about some of your most urgent needs right now. 50:13 So we're looking at expanding our footprint in FM 50:15 because it's all low power. 50:17 You know, there is a text in Ecclesiastes 226 50:20 where the Lord says, 50:21 he gives to other people together 50:23 and then he gives back to his own people. 50:25 So there is a lot of people 50:26 with a lot of licenses out there. 50:27 We're praying that God will work on their hearts 50:29 so we can get some of those licenses back, expand, 50:31 and then ultimately we want people 50:32 to be aware of the availability online, 50:35 but we also need some good pastors 50:36 who know our message, the three angels' messages, 50:38 who can present the messages, who can record the sermons, 50:40 send it through to us 50:41 so we can broadcast those programs as well. 50:43 You know, Greg Grossman and I said 50:44 we encourage people to get licenses 50:46 so we did that in the last two years, 50:48 we bought two licenses in Canberra 50:50 which is the capital of Australia. 50:51 We're the only ones there 50:53 and then we have one out on Norfolk Island 50:56 and that's exciting, and we see what God is doing, 50:58 and I would encourage anyone out there 51:01 go and get a license and be a blessing. 51:04 Amen. 51:05 I can't believe our time has gone so quickly here, 51:08 it's such a blessing. 51:09 We will come back at the end 51:10 with some closing thoughts from you 51:12 but I can see how God is blessing. 51:14 God is blessing the ministry of 3ABN Australia, 51:16 3ABN Australia Radio 51:18 and thank you both 51:19 for your work and for your leadership there, 51:21 and I can see how you know the Bible, 51:23 Etteinne, too and that is such a blessing. 51:25 It's so important and vital 51:26 as you prepare the content for 3ABN Australia Radio. 51:30 What we want to do right now is 51:32 put up the contact information for them. 51:34 If you have an interest in radio or script writing 51:37 or you're a pastor, or you have questions, 51:40 or you would like to financially support, 51:42 here's how you can do just that. 51:46 3ABN Australia 51:48 is the official regional branch of 3ABN 51:50 for Australia and New Zealand. 51:53 If you would like to learn more about them 51:55 or if you would like to support their ministry, 51:57 please contact them at 3ABN Australia, 52:01 PO Box 752, Morisset, 52:04 New South Wales 2264, Australia. 52:08 You may reach them directly by telephone 52:11 by dialing (02) 4973-3456. 52:17 You may also listen to them online 52:19 at 3ABNAustralia.org.au /radio/listen. |
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