I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hi, I'm C.A. Murray.
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And let me once again
welcome you to 3ABN Today.
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And I thank you for
the wonderful partnership
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that we have enjoyed together
these past 30 plus years
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as together we
lift up the mighty
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and matchless name of Jesus.
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And I must admit to
being very, very excited today.
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One, because of
the subject matter
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and two, because of our guest.
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We don't often get to see him,
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but we are pleased that
whenever he is in the States,
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he makes time to come by,
spend a little time with us
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and this is up
I've gotta get it right
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because you're
not Robert Folkenberg,
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you're not Rob
Folkenberg, you're Bob.
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Bob Folkenberg will
work. Robert will work too.
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Yeah. But I go by Bob.
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Good to have you here,
man. So good to be back here.
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And good to see you
whenever you come in from Asia,
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from Hong Kong, it's
good to have you here
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because you always
bring us good stuff.
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Well, thank you.
It's good to be here.
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Yeah, we left you a chair open
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because we thought
Audrey is gonna be here.
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But she said, no, it ought
to be just kind of like guys'
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night out.
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Yeah, it's guy's
night out. Exactly.
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Tonight is just,
is just me and you.
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Just me and you.
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So she's here in
spirit as she also in person
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because she's in a control room.
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Yeah, that's right.
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But she decided to let you
kind of wagging solo today.
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That's right,
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I'm a little nervous about that.
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Good to have you
here, man. Thanks.
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Since last you're here,
of course, we lost your dad.
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Yes.
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And our condolences
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because he was a
great leader of the church
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and someone we all loved.
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Yeah, I miss my
dad very much. Yeah.
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But you know, we press on hoping
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that everything that
we do both here at 3ABN,
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and what we're doing in Asia
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will hasten the
day of his coming,
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that's our hope
and that's our desire.
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Yeah, and the beat goes on
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because your son
is now pastoring?
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Yeah, that's right.
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I have two of my
three children are pastors.
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My two boys are pastoring now.
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Rob and...
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Randy. Yep. And Randy.
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Okay, you did
broke it up a little bit.
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Yes, we did break
it up a little bit.
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Yes, that's right.
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Couldn't have taken two
more Robs or Bobs and Roberts.
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But, Robert,
where are they serving?
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Well, Rob is a pastor in
the British Columbia Conference
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in Kelowna.
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And my son, Randy is
pastoring in Salem, Oregon.
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And my youngest girl Katie,
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she is a junior now
at Walla Walla University
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doing social work,
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still meeting
the needs of people.
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I'm very, and I'm happy.
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Well, time gets
away from you, man.
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It does, where does
it go, where does it go?
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You've been over in
Hong Kong how long now?
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Well, now in total,
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my family and I have
been there for 14 years
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working in the
Greater China region.
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That's where God has sent us.
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And the second time around,
we're going on five years.
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We were there nine years
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and then came
back for a few years.
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And now we're back
for five years serving
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as the union president
there at the Chinese Union.
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At the Chinese Union.
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I remember you telling a story
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the one you used to say,
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have to take the kids
over and bring them back
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and get them
acclimate for school.
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That's all done
now. It's all done.
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And I'm happy about that,
but of course we miss them.
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It's a little bit of a
distance between Hong Kong
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and Canada or United States.
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How often is it
that you do get back?
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Well, I have usually
meetings a couple times a year.
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You know, at the
General Conference
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or other events like right now
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I'm actually
preaching at a camp meeting
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doing a series.
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So that gives us a
chance to connect either in
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or heading back.
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Yeah. Sure, sure.
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Now I need to ask the
all important question,
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has anybody made
you a granddad yet?
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You know what?
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I am so thankful
that you have asked this
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because somewhere along the
way I would have to bring it up.
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My oldest son
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and his wonderful wife
Bethany have had a baby girl.
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And I am now a grandfather
with little Eliza Joyce,
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just three months old.
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We just
dedicated her last Sabbath.
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All right.
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It is... We're
very, very excited.
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Good stuff, good stuff.
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Now that we got
into the family stuff,
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I don't know,
Audrey is very happy
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and very pleased also.
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We do want to get
to your mission work
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because this is some
exciting things are happening
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and having been there 14 years,
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I know you've seen some
growths and some changes.
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And this particular program
is gonna kind be a prayer walk
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through some of the
needs, some of the trials,
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some of the triumphs of
this part of the vineyard
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where you've been for
14 years, it's amazing.
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Yeah.
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That it's been
that length of time.
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Yeah, never would have thought,
we would be there that long.
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But you know what? You
serve where God plants you.
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Amen. Amen.
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And you've seen some
great things happening.
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Yes, wonderful. Exciting things.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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Yeah. We want to dive into that.
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Gonna go to our music just now.
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Johann Sentana,
wonderful young man, pianist.
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We'll hear from him
and then we'll come back
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and we'll kind of
turn you all to loosen,
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talk about some of
the wonderful things
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that are happening.
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He's going to be playing,
"Let all things now living".
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Amen.
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Well done, Johann
Sentana, beautifully played.
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A young man with a great
talent and a very great spirit.
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We were just taking a
little walk down memory lane
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because when you
think Folkenberg,
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that name is in
exuberantly linked to ShareHim,
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your dad and you
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and then the
ShareHim video magazine
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that you and Audrey did
for so many, many years.
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Just I say few years
ago, time gets away from you.
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But it was a few
years ago indeed.
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Well, those are great
programs and a great time.
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Yeah, it was a
wonderful opportunity for me
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to work with my
dad for four years.
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And see so many lay people,
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you know, get involved
in frontline evangelism.
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I see how it changed their lives
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and including my own
kids, my own, two, my own kids,
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my oldest, the
first one did it at 13.
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Wow. And the other one was 12.
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And then my daughter
did it when she was 15.
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So all of them participated
and grew because of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And to see the light
come on in people's eyes
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once they get their sermons
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and they get their
computer again and say,
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"You know, I can do this."
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Yes. Yeah.
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And to see the joy come over.
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I'll never
forget my 12 year old.
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After he did the
first altar call,
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which was on the presentation
of the wonderful gospel
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that we have.
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And he came bounding
into the hotel that night,
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12 years old, remember.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And he said, "Dad,
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I made the call for
people to accept Jesus."
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And of course,
I'm holding my breath
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hoping that it was a positive.
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And he said,
"Daddy, I started to call
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and nobody came up."
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And my heart inside
sank and I'm like, "Oh."
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And he said,
"But guess what daddy,
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I was talking
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and at the same
time I was praying.
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And I kept making appeal
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and, you know, dad,
six people came up,"
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and he was beaming.
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He was beaming.
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And at the end of the series,
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I think he had
13 or 12 baptisms.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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So he was just
on call that night.
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Yeah, so that kind of
gets the bit in the mouth.
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You better believe it.
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You know, and of
course, it's addictive
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and of course,
now he's in ministry.
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Yes, he is.
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And the neat thing
about it is they see that
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it's what a
difference the joy of the gospel
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makes in other people's lives.
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And when you get
them in evangelism
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at such a young age,
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every time they preach,
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they're fortifying
their own relationship.
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That's... Oh, yes.
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Yeah, yeah. So true.
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So praise the Lord.
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Now we can stand
this for a long time.
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Yeah, we really
could, we really could.
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Lot of great things and memories
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and God is still using
ShareHim in a tremendous way,
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hundreds of campaigns
every year by young people.
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Praise the Lord,
and praise the Lord.
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This brochure Fan the Flame,
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Pray for China is going
to serve as our syllabus
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for what we're going to do
for the next several months.
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We'll kind of walk
through this together
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because this
highlights a lot of the things
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that are going on in this field
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and a lot of what
we need to pray for.
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So this is going to be
shining the light on needs,
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but also we're
going to take time to pray
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for some of these things,
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because this is a part
of the world that really...
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First of all it's such a
crowded part of the world,
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there's so many people there.
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That's right.
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And so many challenges and yet,
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I think you'd be
the first to say,
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God is doing
some wonderful things.
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Yes, He's
working miracles there.
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I just want to say
to the viewers that
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and as we talked
about this brochure
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will be available for
download from our KGrowth.org,
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a website which I think
we'll be showing on the screen.
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And so you can download
it and then in the future
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as you pray for
China, you can then rehearse,
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remember these
specific prayer needs
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that we have in China.
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So you can download it,
you can see it yourself,
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and follow along,
and pray for China.
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But you're right,
it is a crowded area.
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It's the largest country
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in terms of population
in the world, 1.4 billion...
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I'm looking at numbers
1.4 billion and growing.
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And growing, and growing,
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there are 23 provinces
with 56 different ethnic groups.
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And it's the largest unreached
people group in the world
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that the Chinese
are in terms of numbers,
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greater than even the Muslims
because the numbers are bigger,
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the Chinese group.
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And this thing is that
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they are becoming
more and more saturated
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with materialism, secularism.
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Now when you travel to
China, you don't see, you know,
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the oxen plowing
through the rice paddies,
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what you see now are high rises.
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And you see, you go
to the big cities there
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you might as well be
in any large megalopolis
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around the world.
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But with that
comes this materialism
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and secularism.
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And of course, as an undertone,
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the largest concentration
of atheists in the world,
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63 percent of the population
of China are atheists.
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I didn't know that.
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I thought they're
all of some religion,
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but most are nothing.
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Atheists, because
it's a communist country
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which espouses atheism,
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but 60 some, I think
63 percent are atheists,
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the largest
concentration of atheism
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in the world is there.
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And if you don't have atheism,
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then you have
that background noise
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or that background
culture of Buddhism
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or Taoism or Confucianism.
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So Christianity is not...
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It's not an easy
place for it to grow.
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But one author has pointed out
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the work of the Holy
Spirit in that country.
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Since the early church,
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it's probably the
greatest church growth
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that has ever happened,
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I'm talking about in
Christianity as a whole.
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Yes.
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At the time of the revolution,
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the communist
revolution in 1949,
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there were an
estimated two million Christians
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in China.
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And right now,
there's an estimated
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80 million Christians.
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Now you think
about that in 60 years...
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Yes, yes, yes.
00:14:20.72\00:14:22.06
In 60 years. Yeah.
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And the same is with our church,
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God has done miraculous things
at the time of the cultural...
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Not the Cultural Revolution,
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at the time of the
Communist Revolution
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in 1949, we had
around 20,000 members
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and now we have 450,000 members.
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Praise God. Praise God.
And it is growing daily.
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And yet, those are
impressive numbers.
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When you look at
one, it's still a drop
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in a very large bucket.
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Oh, and I tell you.
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Yeah.
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Every time I go walk
out my door in Hong Kong
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or I travel in China
which I travel all over,
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it is constantly hitting me.
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But I remember that verse
tucked away in 1 Samuel 14,
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where Jonathan
and his armor-bearer
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facing the incredible
out numbers of Philistines,
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it says, that there were
men as the sand of the sea.
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Yeah.
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And these two
guys... I know the text.
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You know? Know it well.
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Jonathan says to his young...
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He says, "Nothing
was strange to Lord
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to work through many or few."
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Or few, yes, sir.
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And I keep saying God is
not concerned about numbers,
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He can do it, He's
looking for obedience
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and submission to His will.
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Yeah, and you
know, what is staggering
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and it jumps out from here,
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you talk about
the ethnic, you know,
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you're not
talking about a monolithic
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as far as
languages and cultures,
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you've got a lot of
subtext going on, 56.
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Now, are those 56
different language groups
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or they all kind of
speak in the same...
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They're all
different language groups,
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but actually there
are more than 56 languages
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because amongst the Han Chinese
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which is 90 some
percent of the population
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is Chinese group, we
call them Han Chinese.
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Every region has
its own language.
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So for example,
in the south where...
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Near Hong Kong,
it's called Cantonese,
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not Mandarin.
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And that's
different in Mandarin.
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I speak Mandarin.
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But when I'm around in
shops, in Guangdong Province,
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they're speaking Cantonese.
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I don't understand anything.
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So you cannot understand. No.
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They don't
understand each other.
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No, if I open my mouth and
I talk to them in Mandarin,
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they will
respond because Mandarin
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is the general
language everybody learns.
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Oh, okay, okay.
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The news, the schools,
everything are in Mandarin
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but they also have
a secondary language.
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Like kind of
regional kind of thing
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that's spoken a lot.
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Yeah, that is
different in every place.
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Shanghainese, Chengdu hua,
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Sichuan hua, Chongqing hua,
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you know, Wenzhou hua,
I could just go on and on,
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all these different languages.
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But praise the Lord,
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the Lord knows
every single one of those.
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Amen, amen.
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And He's working in them.
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He's working in them already.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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But as you said
nothing will change the Lord,
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it would be an impossible
task, were it not for the Lord?
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Exactly. Yeah.
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And what I take
courage in is that
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while I am lying in bed at night
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or while I am,
you know, dealing with
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whatever small problem I
think is a large problem,
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His spirit is working
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in the hearts of
millions of people
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all across China.
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And He's just calling us to
be His servants to intersect
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and bring the gospel to be that
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those ministers
of reconciliation
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with the word of
reconciliation to them.
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So God is working,
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now we have over
4,500 churches in China.
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Yeah.
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Over the last three
years, we praise the Lord,
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we've been able to start
over 50 centers of influence.
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Wow.
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We call them service centers
00:17:31.41\00:17:32.75
because of it's just
a little more sensitive
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to the political situation
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and over 500 baptisms had
come through those centers.
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And those centers are
selling health food stores,
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doing health
ministry, doing massage therapy,
00:17:42.36\00:17:45.29
doing
kindergarten, doing tutoring,
00:17:45.33\00:17:48.36
doing music
schools, doing play groups
00:17:48.40\00:17:51.37
whatever it takes to
connect, to create a platform,
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to connect with all
those millions of atheists
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and non-Christians.
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And that was going
to be my next question
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because the centers
of influence are doing
00:18:02.18\00:18:04.55
kind of rubber meets
the road kind of stuff.
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That's very close to
the people think that
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that's very
user-friendly for them.
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That's right.
That's exactly right.
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Yeah.
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And one of the things
that we've done is that,
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every single center of influence
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in order to receive help,
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okay, of whatever
kind it is from us,
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they have to have
an embedded full-time
00:18:21.76\00:18:25.23
global mission
pioneer team working in it.
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So it's not just a "Business",
00:18:28.00\00:18:31.57
we have
evangelists that are there,
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and all they're thinking
about is connecting with people.
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You know,
developing relationships
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that then can build
trust and create a platform
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for sharing the message.
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Yeah, now
obviously you're not going in
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with your guns blazing
like the gospel wild west,
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you can't do that.
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But given the idea
of centers of influence
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and the kinds of
friendship kind of things
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you're trying to do,
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preparatory to any
exponential of the gospel.
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That's right.
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Is there
resistance? Is that working?
00:19:01.20\00:19:02.54
It's not fast like
pitching on big tent
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and going to all
the things you've done.
00:19:04.47\00:19:06.11
So obviously you're working
in a different kind of way,
00:19:06.14\00:19:08.81
but given that modification
in your gospel presentation,
00:19:08.84\00:19:12.85
are we getting
results, are we seeing...
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Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
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I just got a story from
one of our pioneer teams
00:19:16.45\00:19:18.82
embedded in a
center of influence.
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And what they have
done is they realize that
00:19:21.52\00:19:23.86
even down to the young adults
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now people are
concerned about health,
00:19:25.49\00:19:27.13
especially in China.
00:19:27.16\00:19:28.60
They're concerned
about food safety.
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They're
concerned about pollution.
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They're concerned about
00:19:32.27\00:19:33.60
just the rising
incidence of cancer in China.
00:19:33.64\00:19:36.91
And they're very
interested in health.
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So they're coming to
our center of influence.
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But the story that
they shared with me
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was opposite.
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The people, the pioneers,
00:19:44.71\00:19:46.51
and the workers in
the center of influence
00:19:46.55\00:19:48.18
don't just wait
for them to come there.
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They take their
health expo material
00:19:50.29\00:19:54.06
that we have received
from Health Expo International,
00:19:54.09\00:19:58.09
we partnered with them,
00:19:58.13\00:19:59.46
their blood pressure
cuffs, their body mass index,
00:19:59.49\00:20:03.87
and they go out on the
street and they meet people.
00:20:03.90\00:20:06.67
Oh, wow.
00:20:06.70\00:20:08.04
And then they say,
"Come to my store."
00:20:08.07\00:20:09.70
And we can...
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And you know what,
00:20:11.11\00:20:12.44
they were telling a
story of one of these people
00:20:12.47\00:20:13.81
that came in and was
buying health food store,
00:20:13.84\00:20:15.18
health food material
00:20:15.21\00:20:16.54
and they started
delivering it to them.
00:20:16.58\00:20:19.55
And they found
out, "Wait a minute,
00:20:19.58\00:20:20.92
you're Christian,
00:20:20.95\00:20:22.28
" Bible studies
ensued, and of course,
00:20:22.32\00:20:23.89
most of these centers of
influence become churches.
00:20:23.92\00:20:26.45
We're trying to plant churches
00:20:26.49\00:20:27.82
on the second
floor meeting room.
00:20:27.86\00:20:29.72
And they invite them
there to have worship
00:20:29.76\00:20:32.56
and begin to
grow in Jesus Christ.
00:20:32.59\00:20:33.93
Praise the Lord.
00:20:33.96\00:20:35.30
So like I said in the
last three years alone,
00:20:35.33\00:20:36.87
we've had over 500 baptisms
00:20:36.90\00:20:38.97
just from these
centers of influence.
00:20:39.00\00:20:41.14
And some of these have only been
00:20:41.17\00:20:42.50
or at least 20 of them have
only been started a year ago.
00:20:42.54\00:20:44.67
So we're going to
see this number grow.
00:20:44.71\00:20:46.88
Yeah, quick testimony, I
won't take too much time.
00:20:46.91\00:20:49.04
I was in the
Philippines this past year.
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And they'd just
opened a center of influence,
00:20:53.75\00:20:55.45
a health food
store, restaurant actually.
00:20:55.48\00:20:57.89
Oh.
00:20:57.92\00:20:59.25
The best vegetarian food
I think I've had in my life.
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Is that right?
00:21:03.89\00:21:05.23
Really, really well done.
00:21:05.26\00:21:06.59
And then on the second
floor, there's a meeting place
00:21:06.63\00:21:08.53
where they're doing studies.
00:21:08.56\00:21:09.90
And they were telling me,
they had only been opened maybe
00:21:09.93\00:21:11.87
two or three months,
00:21:11.90\00:21:13.23
and that second floor was packed
00:21:13.27\00:21:14.60
three nights a week already,
00:21:14.64\00:21:16.64
and most of it was
feeding from the restaurant.
00:21:16.67\00:21:18.47
From that restaurant.
00:21:18.51\00:21:19.84
From that
restaurant downstairs, yeah.
00:21:19.87\00:21:21.21
That's just fantastic.
00:21:21.24\00:21:22.58
Yeah, so that
idea really works...
00:21:22.61\00:21:23.95
Yes, it does. And
produces great result.
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It really does. We have not...
00:21:25.35\00:21:26.68
All of our
centers have a principle
00:21:26.72\00:21:28.45
of not having high overhead.
00:21:28.48\00:21:30.32
We have not started restaurants
00:21:30.35\00:21:32.15
but many of our
"Health Centers"...
00:21:32.19\00:21:33.72
Yes.
00:21:33.76\00:21:35.09
What I mean by
that is you walk in
00:21:35.12\00:21:36.79
and they're selling soymilk,
00:21:36.83\00:21:39.66
they're selling
bulk whole grains,
00:21:39.69\00:21:42.53
and brown rice, and
many things of that nature.
00:21:42.56\00:21:45.97
But, you know, what
they do in the morning
00:21:46.00\00:21:47.34
because the Chinese
love their glass of soymilk
00:21:47.37\00:21:49.67
in the morning, hot soymilk,
00:21:49.70\00:21:52.41
and they love their baozis.
00:21:52.44\00:21:54.24
Baozis are steamed bread
00:21:54.28\00:21:56.54
and they often have
vegetarian things inside.
00:21:56.58\00:21:59.28
In many of our
centers of influence
00:21:59.31\00:22:01.52
that are doing health ministry
will go out in early morning,
00:22:01.55\00:22:05.22
six in the morning,
00:22:05.25\00:22:06.59
set up their baozi,
their steamed bread,
00:22:06.62\00:22:09.02
and their soymilk stand
00:22:09.06\00:22:11.19
and people come by
00:22:11.23\00:22:12.56
and pick up
their "breakfast" there
00:22:12.59\00:22:14.36
and connect with
our center that way.
00:22:14.40\00:22:15.73
Excellent, excellent.
00:22:15.76\00:22:17.10
Yeah, if you open
your eyes and kind of see
00:22:17.13\00:22:18.73
what's going on,
00:22:18.77\00:22:20.10
the people will tell
you how to serve them.
00:22:20.14\00:22:21.47
That's right.
00:22:21.50\00:22:22.84
And if you aware yourself that
you can make some good friends
00:22:22.87\00:22:24.21
and good contacts.
00:22:24.24\00:22:25.57
So one of the things
that is working a lot
00:22:25.61\00:22:27.58
and working very well in China
00:22:27.61\00:22:29.11
and I think in my humble opinion
00:22:29.14\00:22:31.68
and as somebody
that's been involved
00:22:31.71\00:22:33.05
with church
growth for many years,
00:22:33.08\00:22:34.55
church planting is one of
the best church growth methods
00:22:34.58\00:22:37.35
we have.
00:22:37.39\00:22:38.72
And right now in China, we have,
00:22:38.75\00:22:40.66
not counting those
56 centers of influence,
00:22:40.69\00:22:43.59
we have also many, many
church plants going with
00:22:43.63\00:22:47.70
Global Mission
pioneers in an unentered areas
00:22:47.73\00:22:49.66
around the world.
00:22:49.70\00:22:51.03
Excellent, excellent.
00:22:51.07\00:22:52.40
And that is something
we need to pray about.
00:22:52.43\00:22:54.54
That is such a fabulous idea.
00:22:54.57\00:22:57.54
The idea that you can
meet people where they are,
00:22:57.57\00:23:01.68
and in meeting
them where they are,
00:23:01.71\00:23:04.61
you can make
friends, and in a place
00:23:04.65\00:23:07.02
where you cannot
just live with the gospel,
00:23:07.05\00:23:09.98
you live with a cup of
water or a cup of hot soymilk
00:23:10.02\00:23:14.32
or baozi...
00:23:14.36\00:23:16.16
Baus? Baozi.
00:23:16.19\00:23:18.33
Baozi. Baozi.
00:23:18.36\00:23:20.80
And you make friends
from that and churches grow.
00:23:20.83\00:23:24.30
And in a part of the
world where you've got
00:23:24.33\00:23:26.07
a totally
different cultural milieu,
00:23:26.10\00:23:27.84
this is the kind of
way I think to do it.
00:23:27.87\00:23:29.40
Yeah, and as you see
here on this brochure,
00:23:29.44\00:23:33.74
and those who are
watching later can download,
00:23:33.78\00:23:36.95
we have to use
every method available.
00:23:36.98\00:23:40.85
We cannot just come to
this challenge of China
00:23:40.88\00:23:43.89
with one way, okay?
00:23:43.92\00:23:45.45
Yes, yes.
00:23:45.49\00:23:46.82
Every Sabbath
the doors are open,
00:23:46.86\00:23:48.46
and over 4,500 churches.
00:23:48.49\00:23:50.53
Every Sabbath,
every church I go to,
00:23:50.56\00:23:52.99
C.A., there's a call given.
00:23:53.03\00:23:55.20
Amen.
00:23:55.23\00:23:56.56
And people come forward
00:23:56.60\00:23:58.33
and they are then
taken to Bible study groups.
00:23:58.37\00:24:01.47
So that method is working.
00:24:01.50\00:24:03.81
We are also
doing church planting.
00:24:03.84\00:24:05.34
We also have these
platforms for health
00:24:05.37\00:24:08.34
and centers of influence.
00:24:08.38\00:24:10.55
We have many, many
different health centers
00:24:10.58\00:24:13.62
that are like Newstart centers
00:24:13.65\00:24:15.55
that are run by local
churches across China,
00:24:15.58\00:24:17.49
some of them are small,
00:24:17.52\00:24:19.32
some of them you
wouldn't believe,
00:24:19.35\00:24:20.69
they have 40, 50
rooms multistory.
00:24:20.72\00:24:22.06
Wow.
00:24:22.09\00:24:23.43
And they have
hundreds of people coming,
00:24:23.46\00:24:25.09
government officials coming.
00:24:25.13\00:24:27.03
And they openly pray,
openly have devotions,
00:24:27.06\00:24:30.40
and they see
differences in their lives.
00:24:30.43\00:24:33.44
But besides that we
are also using technology.
00:24:33.47\00:24:37.01
You know, the internet,
00:24:37.04\00:24:39.77
and we are broadcasting our AWR
Adventist World Radio programs
00:24:39.81\00:24:47.25
all across China from Guam.
00:24:47.28\00:24:49.28
But besides that we
take those programs,
00:24:49.32\00:24:51.89
AWR does and puts
some on a podcast platform.
00:24:51.92\00:24:54.99
Oh, yes.
00:24:55.02\00:24:56.36
Because I don't
know if you realize this,
00:24:56.39\00:24:58.56
but there are more
internet users in China
00:24:58.59\00:25:01.16
than all of the United States,
and all of Europe combined.
00:25:01.20\00:25:04.40
The reason I know is
because Moses, kind of,
00:25:04.43\00:25:07.74
shine the light on
that just a few weeks ago
00:25:07.77\00:25:09.47
on a broadcast that we have,
we're sitting to talk with him,
00:25:09.50\00:25:11.87
but you would not know
00:25:11.91\00:25:13.24
that you got such a
saturation in China,
00:25:13.27\00:25:16.11
those folks are internet savvy,
00:25:16.14\00:25:17.88
and get lot of the information
through the internet.
00:25:17.91\00:25:20.68
And most of it is
from their hand phone.
00:25:20.72\00:25:22.85
You know, the smart phones. Yes.
00:25:22.88\00:25:24.62
Everybody I see has
a smart phone in China.
00:25:24.65\00:25:27.36
And so what we've done is taken
that podcast and every day,
00:25:27.39\00:25:31.43
C.A., we have 11
million downloads
00:25:31.46\00:25:34.90
of the podcast.
00:25:34.93\00:25:36.36
Wow, praise God.
00:25:36.40\00:25:37.87
Eleven million
people are downloading
00:25:37.90\00:25:40.04
our AWR programming in China.
00:25:40.07\00:25:42.40
Yeah, that's
download. Download, download.
00:25:42.44\00:25:43.77
That's a
download. That's a download.
00:25:43.81\00:25:45.97
That's incredible.
00:25:46.01\00:25:47.34
Plus, we have multiple platforms
00:25:47.38\00:25:49.71
for distributing different
kinds of internet programming.
00:25:49.74\00:25:52.25
And but, what I'm
trying to say is that,
00:25:52.28\00:25:55.48
you know, we
are living in a time
00:25:55.52\00:25:57.09
that I think God
has created different
00:25:57.12\00:26:00.16
or given us different
methods and tools to use.
00:26:00.19\00:26:03.32
Unfortunately, the
devil uses those same tools.
00:26:03.36\00:26:05.19
Very true.
00:26:05.23\00:26:06.56
But we can use them also
00:26:06.59\00:26:08.10
and we need to
be wise and use them
00:26:08.13\00:26:10.30
and where you have all of
these tech users there in China,
00:26:10.33\00:26:14.10
we need to
provide that information.
00:26:14.14\00:26:15.84
Praise the Lord.
00:26:15.87\00:26:17.21
We need to
provide those platforms.
00:26:17.24\00:26:18.57
Yeah, that's why it's
so cool when you come, man.
00:26:18.61\00:26:20.44
Because we
wouldn't get all this stuff,
00:26:20.48\00:26:22.11
there are lot
of things happening
00:26:22.14\00:26:23.48
in this part of the world
that don't always leak out.
00:26:23.51\00:26:25.81
And let me ask you this
because I have heard a rumor
00:26:25.85\00:26:27.75
that one of our largest
church is actually is in China.
00:26:27.78\00:26:31.25
It is.
00:26:31.29\00:26:32.62
In the thousands of
members, is that so?
00:26:32.65\00:26:34.72
That's very true.
00:26:34.76\00:26:36.09
In fact, as far as I know
the largest physical building,
00:26:36.12\00:26:39.79
Adventist building
we have is in China,
00:26:39.83\00:26:42.13
it will seat 3,500
that is the building itself.
00:26:42.16\00:26:46.07
And their
membership in this case,
00:26:46.10\00:26:49.67
it's you have that church
00:26:49.70\00:26:51.04
which I think has a
membership of like 2,500.
00:26:51.07\00:26:54.18
And but that church
started with 14 with a family.
00:26:54.21\00:27:01.62
And this lady
started this church of 14,
00:27:01.65\00:27:06.39
and it is now grown
to that church of 2,500.
00:27:06.42\00:27:09.52
But not just that,
they have 120 other churches
00:27:09.56\00:27:12.93
that have been
started from that one church.
00:27:12.96\00:27:15.66
And so in essence,
00:27:15.70\00:27:17.03
they now have a whole
conference of churches
00:27:17.07\00:27:19.20
with thousands to over 10,000,
00:27:19.23\00:27:21.27
I think it's like 12,000 members
00:27:21.30\00:27:22.84
in all these churches combined,
00:27:22.87\00:27:25.07
started with 14 people
with a sister and a brother
00:27:25.11\00:27:29.78
and another sister and...
00:27:29.81\00:27:31.15
It's amazing what God is
doing through these people.
00:27:31.18\00:27:34.28
Do we have a length
of time from that 14
00:27:34.32\00:27:36.25
to what we've got now 10, 12...
00:27:36.28\00:27:37.62
Yes, I can tell you.
That started in the mid '80s.
00:27:37.65\00:27:41.06
In the mid '80s
to the late '80s.
00:27:41.09\00:27:42.72
I visited them in the early...
00:27:42.76\00:27:45.73
in about 2002
00:27:45.76\00:27:47.80
and they had already
taken over on Sabbath,
00:27:47.83\00:27:50.67
the "Three Self
Government Church"
00:27:50.70\00:27:52.60
that seated the 1000.
00:27:52.63\00:27:54.30
And I was taken
there in the morning
00:27:54.34\00:27:56.27
because I was visiting
different places in China
00:27:56.30\00:27:58.34
and we left the hotel
00:27:58.37\00:28:01.24
where we were staying at
8 o'clock in the morning,
00:28:01.28\00:28:02.84
we got there,
00:28:02.88\00:28:04.55
there was not a seat to
be had, every seat was taken.
00:28:04.58\00:28:07.88
And there were at
least 100 people outside
00:28:07.92\00:28:11.92
with the windows open
outside sitting on buckets.
00:28:11.95\00:28:14.96
And I had this etched in my mind
00:28:14.99\00:28:16.83
with their
Bibles on their knees.
00:28:16.86\00:28:18.19
Wow.
00:28:18.23\00:28:19.56
But let me just
add the final context.
00:28:19.59\00:28:21.26
It was January
00:28:21.30\00:28:22.83
as if we were in
Northern Minnesota.
00:28:22.86\00:28:25.03
Oh, oh. It was below freezing.
00:28:25.07\00:28:27.97
They were bundled
up, there was no heat
00:28:28.00\00:28:30.21
but they were there all
day eating the Word of God,
00:28:30.24\00:28:34.61
fellowshipping with each other.
00:28:34.64\00:28:37.05
And I remember getting
there at 8:30 in the morning,
00:28:37.08\00:28:38.65
by the time we
got there it was 8:30.
00:28:38.68\00:28:40.02
There was no seat.
00:28:40.05\00:28:41.38
Now they knew I was coming,
and they knew we were coming
00:28:41.42\00:28:43.32
so they had saved
us a few seats inside
00:28:43.35\00:28:45.92
where there's no
heat by the way either.
00:28:45.95\00:28:47.56
But at least you were inside
00:28:47.59\00:28:49.06
where some body heat
happening all around you.
00:28:49.09\00:28:50.49
Sure, sure.
00:28:50.53\00:28:51.86
And from there that afternoon,
the pastor, the lady pastor,
00:28:51.89\00:28:56.46
her name is Hao Ya Jie,
00:28:56.50\00:28:57.83
took us to see the ten churches
that have been planted then.
00:28:57.87\00:29:00.80
So let's do the calculation,
that was about 2002,
00:29:00.84\00:29:03.51
so 15 years later there
are another 110 churches.
00:29:03.54\00:29:06.78
Unreal. Praise
God. And God is working.
00:29:06.81\00:29:09.31
And not too far from
there in another city,
00:29:09.34\00:29:11.48
we have one mother church
00:29:11.51\00:29:12.88
that has over 300
churches associated with it.
00:29:12.91\00:29:16.25
You know, it's funny
because when I think China,
00:29:16.28\00:29:20.76
I have in my mind this
00:29:20.79\00:29:22.12
constantly hot
place all the time,
00:29:22.16\00:29:24.63
but Audrey was
saying in the control room
00:29:24.66\00:29:26.43
that Beijing is up
about latitude Washington DC,
00:29:26.46\00:29:29.16
that's chilly, man.
00:29:29.20\00:29:30.53
That's not...
No, no, it is cold.
00:29:30.57\00:29:31.90
A lot of China is very cold.
00:29:31.93\00:29:34.40
I don't know if
you've ever heard of a city
00:29:34.44\00:29:36.17
called Harbin where they
have this famous ice festival,
00:29:36.20\00:29:38.57
they build an
entire city out of ice.
00:29:38.61\00:29:40.71
Yeah, I have heard about
that. And it's beautiful.
00:29:40.74\00:29:43.71
It stays cold
enough to stay all winter.
00:29:43.75\00:29:45.58
All winter, yeah.
00:29:45.61\00:29:46.95
No, no, it's very,
very cold in the north.
00:29:46.98\00:29:48.32
Wow, what a blessing.
00:29:48.35\00:29:49.68
And it's so neat to go
to some of these churches
00:29:49.72\00:29:52.52
in the countryside in the north
00:29:52.55\00:29:54.62
where they stack
up during the summer,
00:29:54.66\00:29:57.16
huge stacks of corn
stock and used up corn cobs.
00:29:57.19\00:30:02.80
Because they heat their church
with a big potbelly stove,
00:30:02.83\00:30:06.47
right in the
middle of the church,
00:30:06.50\00:30:08.74
with a pipe going
across the church out
00:30:08.77\00:30:12.71
and they just feed
those corn stocks into there
00:30:12.74\00:30:15.24
all winter long though
to warm their congregation.
00:30:15.28\00:30:19.51
Anyway, God is
doing a neat thing.
00:30:19.55\00:30:21.25
He is. Now we've got
something for us to pray.
00:30:21.28\00:30:22.85
But let me ask you this.
00:30:22.88\00:30:24.22
Is your movement in
00:30:24.25\00:30:25.95
and around
China hindered at all,
00:30:25.99\00:30:28.36
they would have
access to move pretty freely
00:30:28.39\00:30:29.89
as you go from place to place.
00:30:29.92\00:30:31.26
You know what, I can tell you is
00:30:31.29\00:30:32.63
God has done
wonderful things in China.
00:30:32.66\00:30:34.36
The government has created
an incredible environment
00:30:34.40\00:30:38.47
for economic growth.
00:30:38.50\00:30:41.84
According to one
statistic I read,
00:30:41.87\00:30:44.34
the most people ever
in the history of mankind
00:30:44.37\00:30:46.81
have been raised out of poverty
00:30:46.84\00:30:49.61
because of this
governmental system
00:30:49.64\00:30:52.08
that they have since,
since about '76 to now
00:30:52.11\00:30:55.95
you have got close
to 400 million people,
00:30:55.98\00:30:58.62
500 million people that
have come out of poverty.
00:30:58.65\00:31:01.16
So there's a lot
of economic freedom,
00:31:01.19\00:31:03.89
there's a lot of
openness that the government,
00:31:03.93\00:31:06.49
in the Constitution
has freedom of religion.
00:31:06.53\00:31:08.60
So the churches,
they try to register,
00:31:08.63\00:31:11.33
many of them are
given registration.
00:31:11.37\00:31:13.07
They go to the... So
there's a lot of freedom.
00:31:13.10\00:31:14.60
Yeah.
00:31:14.64\00:31:15.97
It's much
different than it was before.
00:31:16.00\00:31:17.51
And even myself, I travel,
I work with the government.
00:31:17.54\00:31:21.64
I work with the local people
to tell me what I should do
00:31:21.68\00:31:24.38
and what I shouldn't do.
00:31:24.41\00:31:25.75
We want to respect the
laws and so I've followed them.
00:31:25.78\00:31:28.68
And I meet regularly with
different government officials,
00:31:28.72\00:31:30.92
we have a very
cordial relationship.
00:31:30.95\00:31:32.52
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
00:31:32.55\00:31:33.89
I suspect though
00:31:33.92\00:31:35.26
because I've seen some
national geographic stuff.
00:31:35.29\00:31:37.59
And it talks about the
influx of Mercedes and BMW
00:31:37.63\00:31:40.40
that people are getting.
00:31:40.43\00:31:41.76
Oh, unbelievable.
00:31:41.80\00:31:43.13
Of course, so that means
00:31:43.16\00:31:44.50
that your big battle
is secularism, right?
00:31:44.53\00:31:45.87
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
00:31:45.90\00:31:47.24
Because as they're
moving up to economic ladder,
00:31:47.27\00:31:49.27
different kinds of
gods are taking place.
00:31:49.30\00:31:51.14
You are so right. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:51.17\00:31:52.71
This is our greatest challenge.
00:31:52.74\00:31:54.38
And as it is
here in United States
00:31:54.41\00:31:56.58
or Canada or
Europe and in other,
00:31:56.61\00:31:59.61
you know, developed economies,
00:31:59.65\00:32:02.22
you're finding
that in the big cities
00:32:02.25\00:32:05.29
where money is the
central theme in God,
00:32:05.32\00:32:08.86
our membership...
00:32:08.89\00:32:10.23
And actually the active
Christian membership is lower,
00:32:10.26\00:32:13.40
our membership is
less in the big cities
00:32:13.43\00:32:15.33
than if you just go
out into the suburbs
00:32:15.36\00:32:16.97
and into the countryside.
00:32:17.00\00:32:18.70
But we can't do that.
00:32:18.73\00:32:20.67
We are trying to
target our cities.
00:32:20.70\00:32:23.07
We're trying to start
churches in our cities
00:32:23.10\00:32:24.91
because that's
where the people are.
00:32:24.94\00:32:27.24
More than 50 percent of
the population of China are
00:32:27.28\00:32:28.91
in these mega cities.
00:32:28.94\00:32:30.28
In these mega cities, and
they're mega, mega cities.
00:32:30.31\00:32:31.88
Listen, there is one,
00:32:31.91\00:32:33.25
the largest city
has more population
00:32:33.28\00:32:35.62
than 49 of the
states of the United States.
00:32:35.65\00:32:38.65
Isn't that
something? Yeah. One city.
00:32:38.69\00:32:40.36
Only California has more
people than that one city
00:32:40.39\00:32:43.09
and that's the
largest city in China
00:32:43.12\00:32:45.49
and that's how in
the West called Chongqing
00:32:45.53\00:32:48.00
and we only have about 200
members on Sabbath there...
00:32:48.03\00:32:50.30
Wow, wow. Out of
30 million people.
00:32:50.33\00:32:52.70
A lot of work to be
done, 30 million people.
00:32:52.73\00:32:55.67
But God is not
restrained by many or by few.
00:32:55.70\00:32:59.37
Or few. He will get it done.
00:32:59.41\00:33:01.84
Well said. Well
said, and that is true.
00:33:01.88\00:33:04.88
So as we look at our list
of what we're praying for.
00:33:04.91\00:33:07.58
We're praying for the lost
in China and there are many
00:33:07.62\00:33:09.95
because we want them
to come and to know Jesus.
00:33:09.98\00:33:11.42
That's right.
Revival in the church.
00:33:11.45\00:33:14.52
Do you see is there a
Laodiceanism slipping in
00:33:14.56\00:33:19.93
or the people
pretty much still on fire?
00:33:19.96\00:33:22.00
You know what, I will be honest
00:33:22.03\00:33:23.53
and say that we
see it's slipping in
00:33:23.57\00:33:26.43
especially in our
large economic centers.
00:33:26.47\00:33:29.50
You know, we're rich
and increased with good.
00:33:29.54\00:33:31.07
Yes.
00:33:31.11\00:33:32.44
And of course we
have need of nothing.
00:33:32.47\00:33:34.34
That means that
we just don't have
00:33:34.38\00:33:35.98
that hungering and thirsting
after the things of God
00:33:36.01\00:33:38.81
and we find
compromise setting in.
00:33:38.85\00:33:40.95
And we need revival.
00:33:40.98\00:33:43.99
Of course, there
are still many areas
00:33:44.02\00:33:46.22
where people are just willing
to do anything for the Lord.
00:33:46.25\00:33:49.39
And, but we need
to pray for revival.
00:33:49.42\00:33:51.13
Please, pray for revival.
00:33:51.16\00:33:53.63
Pray that God will
pour out His Holy Spirit
00:33:53.66\00:33:56.33
in latter day power.
00:33:56.36\00:33:59.13
So that the light, the fire
00:33:59.17\00:34:02.00
that's burning will
become a forest fire
00:34:02.04\00:34:03.37
and take over all things...
00:34:03.41\00:34:04.74
Praise the Lord.
00:34:04.77\00:34:06.11
We're going to add one more then
00:34:06.14\00:34:07.48
maybe we'll take a starter
and have a word of prayer.
00:34:07.51\00:34:08.84
Unity in the church, is that
a particular problem in China?
00:34:08.88\00:34:11.15
It is a particular problem,
00:34:11.18\00:34:12.81
but we see
tremendous strides forward
00:34:12.85\00:34:15.42
because China is a unique church
00:34:15.45\00:34:18.32
and that it is not
organized traditionally like
00:34:18.35\00:34:20.69
we have here.
00:34:20.72\00:34:22.06
And so therefore,
it is kind of fractured
00:34:22.09\00:34:24.19
under different
leaders and different and...
00:34:24.23\00:34:26.43
But we see the Lord
bringing the people together,
00:34:26.46\00:34:29.46
focusing on our mission.
00:34:29.50\00:34:30.93
But we do need the Holy Spirit
00:34:30.97\00:34:32.73
to bring greater unity in China.
00:34:32.77\00:34:37.34
Give me the noblest...
00:34:37.37\00:34:38.71
Add just one more. Sure.
00:34:38.74\00:34:40.08
The church in China,
is it a young church,
00:34:40.11\00:34:41.91
is it a older church,
00:34:41.94\00:34:43.28
give me some sense
of the age demographic?
00:34:43.31\00:34:45.71
You know, it's an
interesting question.
00:34:45.75\00:34:48.05
It depends on where you go.
00:34:48.08\00:34:49.92
If you go into the countryside,
00:34:49.95\00:34:53.25
you will find it's
mostly an elderly church
00:34:53.29\00:34:55.59
because all the youth
have come to the cities
00:34:55.62\00:34:57.53
to look for
work, the young adult.
00:34:57.56\00:34:59.49
You'll see elderly
people and children
00:34:59.53\00:35:01.66
because the
children are left there
00:35:01.70\00:35:03.16
with their
grandparents while they go,
00:35:03.20\00:35:05.10
mom and dad go look for jobs.
00:35:05.13\00:35:06.84
But then when you
come to the cities
00:35:06.87\00:35:08.44
in the largest
churches or in the city churches
00:35:08.47\00:35:10.34
you'll see a mix,
you'll see a mix there.
00:35:10.37\00:35:13.11
And so, but we see
this challenge everywhere,
00:35:13.14\00:35:16.38
young people
sometimes are distracted
00:35:16.41\00:35:19.35
with the things of this world.
00:35:19.38\00:35:21.08
And all if they
could just recognize
00:35:21.12\00:35:23.55
the joy of finding Jesus
in the days of their youth,
00:35:23.59\00:35:27.22
they would avoid
so many pitfalls,
00:35:27.26\00:35:29.12
but we need to
pray for our youth
00:35:29.16\00:35:30.49
and our
children, and our children.
00:35:30.53\00:35:32.66
Yes, yes.
00:35:32.69\00:35:34.10
Well, let's stop just now
and offer a word of prayer.
00:35:34.13\00:35:36.26
And as Bob has
mentioned, you can download this
00:35:36.30\00:35:40.47
so you can have this
for your own prayer time,
00:35:40.50\00:35:42.80
you can make a prayer list.
00:35:42.84\00:35:44.17
You can sort of bring this
00:35:44.21\00:35:45.54
to the Lord
periodically doing your prayers.
00:35:45.57\00:35:47.04
We're going to
pray just now. Amen.
00:35:47.08\00:35:48.41
Father God, we do
praise You and thank You
00:35:48.44\00:35:50.18
that Your eye is on China
00:35:50.21\00:35:52.35
that You care so very much
about this part of the world.
00:35:52.38\00:35:56.32
There are challenges there,
unity, and the young people,
00:35:56.35\00:35:59.29
and secularism, and
these kinds of things
00:35:59.32\00:36:02.22
that go with affluence
00:36:02.26\00:36:03.66
and with coming
up out of poverty,
00:36:03.69\00:36:06.90
there is this
trusting sometimes in things
00:36:06.93\00:36:09.36
and not in the Lord.
00:36:09.40\00:36:10.73
And so far we pray,
in a very special way
00:36:10.77\00:36:12.77
that you would tear
down these strongholds
00:36:12.80\00:36:15.00
that would insert
yourself and the Holy Spirit
00:36:15.04\00:36:17.47
into the lives of those
00:36:17.51\00:36:18.84
who may be growing cold
or who may be going weak
00:36:18.87\00:36:21.04
or the society that is want to
follow the things of the world
00:36:21.08\00:36:25.91
and not care so
much about Christ.
00:36:25.95\00:36:27.62
Father, override these things
00:36:27.65\00:36:29.25
with the power
of your Holy Spirit,
00:36:29.28\00:36:31.52
we commend these to you
00:36:31.55\00:36:33.46
knowing that the God of
all the earth will do just
00:36:33.49\00:36:35.86
and do right for them
and by them, call them Lord
00:36:35.89\00:36:38.99
and lead them safely in journey,
00:36:39.03\00:36:40.63
we do pray and
thank You in Jesus' name.
00:36:40.66\00:36:42.96
Amen. Amen.
00:36:43.00\00:36:44.33
Amen. Thank you so much, CA.
00:36:44.37\00:36:47.07
All right, growing
Sabbath schools in China
00:36:47.10\00:36:49.77
and I suspect
that is a growth area?
00:36:49.80\00:36:51.41
Yeah.
00:36:51.44\00:36:52.77
And as you look here
the next one is small group
00:36:52.81\00:36:54.88
all across China.
00:36:54.91\00:36:56.28
There are lot of
different small group ministries
00:36:56.31\00:36:58.01
taking place.
00:36:58.05\00:36:59.38
For example, on
Sabbath afternoon many churches
00:36:59.41\00:37:01.05
divide into
different area groups,
00:37:01.08\00:37:03.25
for example
families, children, youth,
00:37:03.28\00:37:05.92
the culture in China,
the Adventist culture is that
00:37:05.95\00:37:09.19
when you are an Adventist,
00:37:09.22\00:37:10.56
you go to church
from morning till sundown.
00:37:10.59\00:37:13.70
They're there all
day, they eat together
00:37:13.73\00:37:15.83
and then they do
training in the afternoon,
00:37:15.86\00:37:17.70
you have the baptismal
classes in the afternoons,
00:37:17.73\00:37:19.97
so there're lot
of small groups going
00:37:20.00\00:37:21.40
and Sabbath schools,
that's a whole another,
00:37:21.44\00:37:23.14
that's a whole another story.
00:37:23.17\00:37:25.07
We have been
working very closely
00:37:25.11\00:37:26.91
with leaders in China
00:37:26.94\00:37:28.91
to develop the
process and the habit of using
00:37:28.94\00:37:33.31
or unifying wonderful
Sabbath School quarterlies.
00:37:33.35\00:37:36.28
So now we are
translating those regularly.
00:37:36.32\00:37:38.92
And many of
them are distributed,
00:37:38.95\00:37:41.02
of course, through the internet.
00:37:41.06\00:37:42.72
They download them
and they print them
00:37:42.76\00:37:44.36
for their local congregations
00:37:44.39\00:37:45.73
or their group of
hundred congregations.
00:37:45.76\00:37:48.86
Other ones, we have printed
very nicely and distributed.
00:37:48.90\00:37:52.00
And so but what we want to
see that take hold even more.
00:37:52.03\00:37:54.37
Right now we're
printing 60-70,000 a quarter.
00:37:54.40\00:37:57.21
We would like to
print 100,000, 200,000.
00:37:57.24\00:37:59.77
So let's pray for
our Sabbath Schools.
00:37:59.81\00:38:02.74
And you see the next one
here, C.A., was church planting.
00:38:02.78\00:38:06.28
Church planting.
00:38:06.31\00:38:07.65
You know, I'm a big believer
00:38:07.68\00:38:09.55
and the data on church
growth points this out.
00:38:09.58\00:38:15.02
You know, you think about it.
00:38:15.06\00:38:16.59
If the early church were
not a church planting church
00:38:16.62\00:38:19.23
and it just decided to hang
out in Turkey and in Asia Minor,
00:38:19.26\00:38:22.43
what would happen?
00:38:22.46\00:38:23.80
We'd still be in Turkey
and Asia Minor, I think.
00:38:23.83\00:38:25.17
You know, yeah, and if
you go to Turkey right now,
00:38:25.20\00:38:26.90
there's hardly any churches.
00:38:26.94\00:38:28.27
Yes, yes.
00:38:28.30\00:38:29.64
You see God
knows what He's doing
00:38:29.67\00:38:31.01
with His church planting.
00:38:31.04\00:38:32.37
It's good for the church. Yes.
00:38:32.41\00:38:33.74
And so we are very
involved in church planting.
00:38:33.78\00:38:36.28
We encourage our churches.
00:38:36.31\00:38:37.85
And right now as I've mentioned
to you earlier we have,
00:38:37.88\00:38:40.92
you know, dozens
and dozens of teams
00:38:40.95\00:38:44.42
all across China
00:38:44.45\00:38:46.02
in unentered area
planting churches.
00:38:46.05\00:38:47.86
And if you don't mind
can I just share with you...
00:38:47.89\00:38:49.46
Oh, please do, please do.
00:38:49.49\00:38:50.83
Just a neat story from,
00:38:50.86\00:38:52.19
I just got it from
one of our pioneer teams.
00:38:52.23\00:38:56.56
They sent in
their quarterly report
00:38:56.60\00:38:58.70
and they said
that, "This last quarter,
00:38:58.73\00:39:00.47
they had the joy of
making two new friends."
00:39:00.50\00:39:03.00
Actually they're
giving I think 23 Bible study,
00:39:03.04\00:39:06.27
so they have many
friends that they're connecting.
00:39:06.31\00:39:07.84
But these are two new ones.
00:39:07.88\00:39:09.44
One was a
gentleman by the name of Tin,
00:39:09.48\00:39:11.75
it's not really his
name, but they called him Tin.
00:39:11.78\00:39:14.65
And Tin, they met him
00:39:14.68\00:39:17.12
at a time of crisis in his life,
00:39:17.15\00:39:20.52
his son had an
accident, had a major surgery
00:39:20.56\00:39:23.79
and the doctor said,
"He would not walk again."
00:39:23.83\00:39:25.29
Oh, wow.
00:39:25.33\00:39:26.66
And so they came
around and supported him
00:39:26.70\00:39:29.56
and provided friendship and love
00:39:29.60\00:39:32.47
and began to
introduce him to Jesus,
00:39:32.50\00:39:35.07
the one that
gives eternal comfort.
00:39:35.10\00:39:37.81
And before long,
00:39:37.84\00:39:39.31
he had accepted
Jesus his personal savior
00:39:39.34\00:39:41.34
and then before long he's like,
00:39:41.38\00:39:42.84
"Well, please come to my
house and have Bible studies."
00:39:42.88\00:39:45.85
So now they're
visiting their son
00:39:45.88\00:39:47.92
who is still in the hospital.
00:39:47.95\00:39:49.88
They're having Bible
studies with Tin and his family,
00:39:49.92\00:39:52.75
and that's exciting to them.
00:39:52.79\00:39:55.46
And he is opening his home for
Bible studies in the community.
00:39:55.49\00:39:58.39
Praise the Lord.
00:39:58.43\00:39:59.76
Then the second one is
a lady who is paralyzed.
00:39:59.79\00:40:03.57
It sounds like it's because
of a stroke or something,
00:40:03.60\00:40:05.40
she's paralyzed in the home.
00:40:05.43\00:40:06.90
So they have
started visiting her,
00:40:06.94\00:40:09.54
tending to her
needs, loving her.
00:40:09.57\00:40:12.67
And you know what?
00:40:12.71\00:40:14.04
She says, "This kind of
love is blowing me away.
00:40:14.08\00:40:18.25
Tell me why you love me so."
00:40:18.28\00:40:20.25
And I'm just
paraphrasing their report,
00:40:20.28\00:40:22.78
they said, they said,
"It's because of Jesus."
00:40:22.82\00:40:27.52
And they said,
"When we come to meet you,
00:40:27.56\00:40:30.09
it's Jesus coming to meet you."
00:40:30.13\00:40:31.93
And they gave her a
Bible study on the gospel,
00:40:31.96\00:40:33.50
she accepted Jesus Christ.
00:40:33.53\00:40:34.86
Praise the Lord.
00:40:34.90\00:40:36.23
And now she says, now listen,
00:40:36.26\00:40:37.60
"I need you to come
and give a Bible study
00:40:37.63\00:40:38.97
to my whole family."
00:40:39.00\00:40:40.34
And they sent pictures of
the pioneers sitting there
00:40:40.37\00:40:44.44
with the whole
family giving Bible studies
00:40:44.47\00:40:46.37
and at the end
of the report, C.A.,
00:40:46.41\00:40:49.11
they said, "We are so excited,
00:40:49.14\00:40:51.98
right before we
wrote this report,
00:40:52.01\00:40:55.35
this sister
invited us into her home
00:40:55.38\00:40:58.22
to destroy the two family altars
00:40:58.25\00:41:01.12
that they have, their idols,
00:41:01.16\00:41:03.26
and take them
out and burn them."
00:41:03.29\00:41:04.99
Amen. Amen.
00:41:05.03\00:41:06.96
That is good news.
00:41:07.00\00:41:08.33
This is all
because of church planting.
00:41:08.36\00:41:09.70
Yeah.
00:41:09.73\00:41:11.07
And we need to pray
for these church planters
00:41:11.10\00:41:12.87
who are facing difficult times,
00:41:12.90\00:41:14.87
some times of facing
political challenges,
00:41:14.90\00:41:18.77
we just need to pray for them.
00:41:18.81\00:41:22.11
That's the thing. In
fact, let's pray right now.
00:41:22.14\00:41:24.18
Sure.
00:41:24.21\00:41:25.55
Gracious Father,
we come to You again.
00:41:25.58\00:41:27.22
We know the challenges
that the church planters face,
00:41:27.25\00:41:30.89
the challenges that
come to all those involved
00:41:30.92\00:41:33.29
in frontline evangelism.
00:41:33.32\00:41:34.66
They are the specific
00:41:34.69\00:41:36.39
and special objects of
Satan's hatred and attack.
00:41:36.42\00:41:39.73
But we know that
00:41:39.76\00:41:41.10
they can be more than conquerors
00:41:41.13\00:41:42.46
through Jesus Christ.
00:41:42.50\00:41:43.83
And that greater
is he that is in them
00:41:43.87\00:41:45.20
then he that is in the world.
00:41:45.23\00:41:46.57
That's for sure.
00:41:46.60\00:41:47.94
And so Father, we
commend them to You
00:41:47.97\00:41:49.30
and ask You to surround them.
00:41:49.34\00:41:50.67
Keep them safe in
their comings, their goings.
00:41:50.71\00:41:52.77
Bless the work of their hands
00:41:52.81\00:41:54.28
and may they be
crowned with success, Father.
00:41:54.31\00:41:58.01
So that the work can go
forward and we thank You Father,
00:41:58.05\00:42:00.78
and praise You in
Jesus' name, amen.
00:42:00.82\00:42:02.28
Amen. Amen. Amen.
00:42:02.32\00:42:05.32
I love it all.
00:42:05.35\00:42:06.69
I just want to
encourage the viewers, please,
00:42:06.72\00:42:09.29
download this and
pray for China daily.
00:42:09.32\00:42:12.43
There is power in prayer.
00:42:12.46\00:42:14.56
There is a quote that we
have on this booklet here
00:42:14.60\00:42:16.63
regarding prayer, C.A.,
that I really, really like,
00:42:16.67\00:42:19.50
it says, "A chain of
earnest praying believers
00:42:19.53\00:42:23.44
should encircle the world.
00:42:23.47\00:42:25.61
Let all pray in humility.
00:42:25.64\00:42:28.01
Let those who cannot leave home,
00:42:28.04\00:42:29.78
gather and their
children and unite in learning
00:42:29.81\00:42:32.78
to pray together in response
00:42:32.81\00:42:34.62
to the prayers of God's people
00:42:34.65\00:42:36.12
angels are sent
with heavenly blessings."
00:42:36.15\00:42:39.15
This is in Ellen White's Book,
Reflecting Christ, page 121.
00:42:39.19\00:42:42.49
Amen.
00:42:42.52\00:42:43.86
So prayer is real, I believe it.
00:42:43.89\00:42:46.96
"Anybody that has
gone out knows that
00:42:47.00\00:42:49.70
there is power in prayer."
00:42:49.73\00:42:51.23
Now, your next one is
"Pray for Public Evangelism."
00:42:51.27\00:42:55.60
Is there a measure
of public evangelism
00:42:55.64\00:42:57.07
that you can do?
00:42:57.11\00:42:58.44
I know you can't do
whole scale big city wise,
00:42:58.47\00:43:00.71
kind of things that we're
accustomed to in the west,
00:43:00.74\00:43:02.38
but you can do
something like that?
00:43:02.41\00:43:03.78
Let me just tell you, my friend.
00:43:03.81\00:43:05.55
God is doing amazing things.
00:43:05.58\00:43:07.72
There is not a
culture of public evangelism
00:43:07.75\00:43:09.88
because it was
impossible for 40, 50 years.
00:43:09.92\00:43:13.99
But now that
many of our churches
00:43:14.02\00:43:15.79
owned their own
apartment church,
00:43:15.82\00:43:17.53
their house church,
or their own building,
00:43:17.56\00:43:19.46
they can do so.
00:43:19.49\00:43:21.36
And so we have brought
over, the last couple of years
00:43:21.40\00:43:24.47
we brought
evangelists, Doug Batchelor came
00:43:24.50\00:43:27.00
and held meeting in
Wuxi, 200 were baptized.
00:43:27.04\00:43:29.24
Praise God.
00:43:29.27\00:43:30.61
Mark Finley came
last October and many...
00:43:30.64\00:43:34.04
I think it was close
to 180 some were baptized.
00:43:34.08\00:43:37.45
We're modeling it,
okay? We're modeling it.
00:43:37.48\00:43:41.02
And so what has
happened now is that
00:43:41.05\00:43:43.18
our own people are
going out and preaching now.
00:43:43.22\00:43:46.62
I'm plugging in ShareHim here.
00:43:46.65\00:43:49.09
ShareHim has
developed materials in Chinese.
00:43:49.12\00:43:51.49
Oh, wow.
00:43:51.53\00:43:52.86
For the Chinese with
an Asian view in mind.
00:43:52.89\00:43:55.73
And we have distributed these.
00:43:55.76\00:43:57.83
New Beginnings has
done the same thing
00:43:57.87\00:43:59.20
all across China.
00:43:59.23\00:44:00.57
So we are distributing material.
00:44:00.60\00:44:02.47
Our goal this year,
00:44:02.50\00:44:03.84
and I'm a little bit nervous
to say this over the air,
00:44:03.87\00:44:06.84
but I need your prayers.
00:44:06.88\00:44:08.48
Let me just say that
00:44:08.51\00:44:09.84
we are planning
hundreds of campaigns this year
00:44:09.88\00:44:13.72
across China.
00:44:13.75\00:44:15.58
One such example took place
by one of our union leaders
00:44:15.62\00:44:19.89
went to a Chinese Church,
00:44:19.92\00:44:21.79
held Chinese
evangelist meetings,
00:44:21.82\00:44:24.76
no foreign, this is all
local bread, everything.
00:44:24.79\00:44:28.36
And 63 people gave
their life to the Lord
00:44:28.40\00:44:31.20
including 100 year old lady
00:44:31.23\00:44:34.10
who also insisted
on going to the seaside
00:44:34.14\00:44:37.47
and being baptized in the
sea with the other 62 people.
00:44:37.51\00:44:39.51
Bless her heart.
00:44:39.54\00:44:40.88
So what I'm trying to say
is that God is going to work.
00:44:40.91\00:44:43.75
We have seen the
numbers of baptism
00:44:43.78\00:44:45.81
increasing year after year.
00:44:45.85\00:44:48.68
This last year, we had
over 16,000 baptisms in China.
00:44:48.72\00:44:50.99
Amen.
00:44:51.02\00:44:52.35
We hope to see that
exponentially increase
00:44:52.39\00:44:54.99
as we start doing
public evangelism.
00:44:55.02\00:44:57.36
So praying for public evangelism
00:44:57.39\00:45:00.03
is a real need.
00:45:00.06\00:45:01.40
Please, join us in
praying for public evangelism
00:45:01.43\00:45:05.43
all across China.
00:45:05.47\00:45:08.64
That's what we need desperately.
00:45:08.67\00:45:10.11
That is fabulous, fabulous.
00:45:10.14\00:45:13.17
Is there an ongoing threat, Bob,
00:45:13.21\00:45:16.48
to religious freedom even now?
00:45:16.51\00:45:17.88
You know, I believe that
God is opening those doors
00:45:17.91\00:45:20.32
and He is.
00:45:20.35\00:45:21.68
We see it.
00:45:21.72\00:45:23.05
How we can openly have
evangelism in our churches.
00:45:23.08\00:45:25.82
We can have
pastors who are trained.
00:45:25.85\00:45:29.29
God is doing wonderful things.
00:45:29.32\00:45:30.66
But we like in any place
even in our own country here,
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we need to continue to
pray for religious freedom.
00:45:33.70\00:45:35.70
And we also need to pray
00:45:35.73\00:45:37.20
that God continues to
bless the religious education
00:45:37.23\00:45:40.27
and theological
education that is happening
00:45:40.30\00:45:42.94
in various modalities in China
00:45:42.97\00:45:45.77
so that the church can be
strengthened theologically
00:45:45.81\00:45:49.24
to rebuff all these
strange winds of doctrine
00:45:49.28\00:45:52.95
that can come.
00:45:52.98\00:45:54.32
And you know, if that
happens around the world,
00:45:54.35\00:45:56.69
the devil doesn't
matter how he gets us,
00:45:56.72\00:45:58.59
he loves getting us from within.
00:45:58.62\00:46:00.29
Right, right, right.
00:46:00.32\00:46:01.66
And so, we need to pray
00:46:01.69\00:46:03.02
for our religious
education as well.
00:46:03.06\00:46:06.03
And so do you mind, let me pray
for these three last things...
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Please do. If you don't mind.
00:46:09.93\00:46:11.27
Father in heaven,
00:46:11.30\00:46:12.63
we've been talking
about public evangelism
00:46:12.67\00:46:14.24
and, Father, you
know, the plans that we have
00:46:14.27\00:46:17.91
but, dear God, please guide us.
00:46:17.94\00:46:21.44
May they be Your plans
blessed by Your Holy Spirit
00:46:21.48\00:46:25.31
as we preach this
Three Angels' Message
00:46:25.35\00:46:28.25
to the people all across China.
00:46:28.28\00:46:30.72
Lord, this work
cannot be finished
00:46:30.75\00:46:32.52
until it is finished everywhere,
00:46:32.55\00:46:35.16
be it in China or be
it in Cicero, Indiana.
00:46:35.19\00:46:38.33
Amen. Or be it in Chicago.
00:46:38.36\00:46:40.50
Lord, it's got to be done.
00:46:40.53\00:46:42.53
And I pray, dear God,
00:46:42.56\00:46:43.90
that You will use Your
faithful members in China
00:46:43.93\00:46:45.93
to proclaim this message,
00:46:45.97\00:46:48.60
this end time message
to the people of China
00:46:48.64\00:46:51.31
who are hungering for it.
00:46:51.34\00:46:53.04
Protect the meetings,
00:46:53.07\00:46:54.68
bring the people who are hungry,
00:46:54.71\00:46:56.71
who you've been working
with to these public meetings
00:46:56.75\00:46:58.81
and may they be sensitive
00:46:58.85\00:47:00.42
to the promptings
of your Holy Spirit.
00:47:00.45\00:47:02.25
We pray for the continued
work of education, theological,
00:47:02.28\00:47:07.19
and religious
education across China.
00:47:07.22\00:47:09.56
Continue to keep the doors open
00:47:09.59\00:47:11.39
for the
proclamation of Your message,
00:47:11.43\00:47:13.06
we pray in the
powerful name of Jesus, amen.
00:47:13.09\00:47:16.87
Amen. Amen.
00:47:16.90\00:47:20.77
Religious freedom is...
00:47:20.80\00:47:22.80
The hands are
kind of off for now...
00:47:22.84\00:47:24.61
The Lord is working. We
still have lots of ability.
00:47:24.64\00:47:28.14
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:47:28.18\00:47:29.78
Praise the Lord
00:47:29.81\00:47:33.31
Theological education,
00:47:33.35\00:47:35.78
our guys that are working there,
00:47:35.82\00:47:37.15
they're the
frontline mission people,
00:47:37.19\00:47:38.52
the global mission people,
the mission pioneer people,
00:47:38.55\00:47:40.96
they're getting
the training outside
00:47:40.99\00:47:42.32
and coming in?
00:47:42.36\00:47:43.69
Well, no, we're doing
all the training inside.
00:47:43.73\00:47:46.13
And we do training inside,
we have different modalities,
00:47:46.16\00:47:48.70
of course,
local church seminars,
00:47:48.73\00:47:50.53
our union is very involved
00:47:50.57\00:47:52.27
and going all over
doing training and seminars.
00:47:52.30\00:47:54.97
We use the internet
platforms to deliver classes.
00:47:55.00\00:48:00.21
We have an entire
distance education school
00:48:00.24\00:48:04.31
called Chinese
Adventist Seminary
00:48:04.35\00:48:05.81
with over 1,000 students
getting a one year degree
00:48:05.85\00:48:09.02
in pastoral ministry,
00:48:09.05\00:48:10.39
two year degree
in pastoral ministry,
00:48:10.42\00:48:11.75
four year accredited
degree in pastoral ministry,
00:48:11.79\00:48:14.09
all delivered
through the internet,
00:48:14.12\00:48:17.03
different modalities,
face to face classes.
00:48:17.06\00:48:18.96
Okay.
00:48:18.99\00:48:20.33
So we need to keep
praying for that as well.
00:48:20.36\00:48:21.86
And if you don't mind
00:48:21.90\00:48:23.83
just write down
there little further,
00:48:23.87\00:48:25.20
it says media and
internet ministries...
00:48:25.23\00:48:26.57
I'm looking out.
00:48:26.60\00:48:27.94
These are connected, you
know, these are connected.
00:48:27.97\00:48:29.74
We need to pray for that.
00:48:29.77\00:48:32.21
You know, we
have a Chinese Hope TV
00:48:32.24\00:48:36.01
that goes 24/7 in
the Chinese language
00:48:36.04\00:48:39.45
that is used
broadcast through the cell phone
00:48:39.48\00:48:41.72
and through the internet,
and through the satellite.
00:48:41.75\00:48:45.62
Anyway, what I'm trying to say
is we need to use every method
00:48:45.65\00:48:48.32
and we pray that
God will bring people
00:48:48.36\00:48:50.53
to listen that
are seeking truth.
00:48:50.56\00:48:55.20
Let me ask you,
00:48:55.23\00:48:56.56
I'm looking at pray
for family ministries,
00:48:56.60\00:48:58.03
give me some sense,
Bob, and our time looking
00:48:58.07\00:49:00.47
at the clock is
not our friend here,
00:49:00.50\00:49:02.20
of the stability or instability
of the average Chinese home?
00:49:02.24\00:49:06.04
You know,
comparatively speaking,
00:49:06.07\00:49:08.21
it's very stable compared
to the west and other places
00:49:08.24\00:49:12.35
but that is changing because
of secularism, materialism,
00:49:12.38\00:49:17.59
the demands of the workforce,
and the desire for more,
00:49:17.62\00:49:21.29
we're seeing
more and more problems
00:49:21.32\00:49:23.32
in the family.
00:49:23.36\00:49:24.69
And so we're praying for family.
00:49:24.73\00:49:26.06
We have family
ministry leadership,
00:49:26.09\00:49:27.70
training going on, counseling.
00:49:27.73\00:49:29.73
We need to pray
for our families.
00:49:29.76\00:49:31.17
The devil knows, C.A.,
that if he can get a family,
00:49:31.20\00:49:34.47
he's silenced the witness.
00:49:34.50\00:49:36.20
Very true, very
true. Very, very true.
00:49:36.24\00:49:39.84
It's good to know that
there are so many friends
00:49:39.87\00:49:42.48
at the Adventist Church
00:49:42.51\00:49:43.85
can be of value to this
part of the world field.
00:49:43.88\00:49:49.85
We're praying for protection
and the presence of His angels.
00:49:49.88\00:49:52.45
Amen and amen. Amen.
00:49:52.49\00:49:54.42
And for a latter rain outpouring
00:49:54.46\00:49:57.13
of the Holy Spirit...
00:49:57.16\00:49:58.49
Amen to that too. Yeah.
00:49:58.53\00:50:00.33
Yes. And governmental leaders.
00:50:00.36\00:50:02.23
We need to pray for
our government leaders,
00:50:02.26\00:50:03.87
and they're God's children too.
00:50:03.90\00:50:05.53
And we want them to
come to know Jesus Christ.
00:50:05.57\00:50:07.74
Let me ask this,
Bob, do you get a chance
00:50:07.77\00:50:09.57
to interface much with,
certainly not country leaders,
00:50:09.60\00:50:13.48
but local
leaders, police, mayors,
00:50:13.51\00:50:15.54
those kind of town's
people who kind of...
00:50:15.58\00:50:17.01
Oftentimes, political leaders
00:50:17.05\00:50:18.88
I don't get to
interface with as much
00:50:18.91\00:50:20.92
but I do get with
religious leaders.
00:50:20.95\00:50:23.08
In other words religious bureau
00:50:23.12\00:50:24.45
which are secular
that oversee religion,
00:50:24.49\00:50:26.59
I interface with them.
00:50:26.62\00:50:28.36
And just a reminder,
all of this again, C.A.,
00:50:28.39\00:50:31.39
all of this list
that we've been praying
00:50:31.43\00:50:32.86
including governmental
leaders can be found
00:50:32.89\00:50:34.96
on our website at KGrowth.org.
00:50:35.00\00:50:37.57
They can download this pamphlet.
00:50:37.60\00:50:39.33
And it becomes a
way for our people
00:50:39.37\00:50:42.07
that are watching, your viewers,
00:50:42.10\00:50:43.81
to pray for China.
00:50:43.84\00:50:45.17
We covet your prayers,
00:50:45.21\00:50:49.01
we just covet your
support in every which way.
00:50:49.04\00:50:51.15
Fabulous.
00:50:51.18\00:50:52.51
Pray...
00:50:52.55\00:50:53.88
I like this idea because this
gives you really a prayer list.
00:50:53.92\00:50:57.42
And this is something...
00:50:57.45\00:50:58.79
If you have a color print,
it's really, really pretty.
00:50:58.82\00:51:00.86
And if you don't, well,
you can still pray for it.
00:51:00.89\00:51:03.43
Yeah, but you can see it
online in color for sure.
00:51:03.46\00:51:05.96
And it tells you
what to pray for.
00:51:05.99\00:51:07.33
And it also shows you
some of the areas of ministry
00:51:07.36\00:51:09.86
that might could use some
financial support as well.
00:51:09.90\00:51:12.83
Yeah, we've talked
about the necessity of prayer
00:51:12.87\00:51:16.64
and, of course, that
is very, very important.
00:51:16.67\00:51:18.54
But we should not forget
00:51:18.57\00:51:19.91
that this work
does take your finances.
00:51:19.94\00:51:23.11
And one of the
reasons that they come is that
00:51:23.14\00:51:24.65
we can expose you
to the kinds of things
00:51:24.68\00:51:26.95
that are being done
00:51:26.98\00:51:28.32
and obviously
great work is being done,
00:51:28.35\00:51:29.88
but it's going to
take money to help
00:51:29.92\00:51:31.25
because this is an area,
00:51:31.29\00:51:32.62
we talk about the 10/40 window
and other kinds of things,
00:51:32.65\00:51:34.59
but here is an area that
really needs your prayers
00:51:34.62\00:51:37.39
and your financial support.
00:51:37.43\00:51:38.76
And giving can be given
through KGrowth.org as well.
00:51:38.79\00:51:41.40
Amen, amen. Thank you.
00:51:41.43\00:51:42.76
We want to go to an
address roll just now.
00:51:42.80\00:51:44.47
Should you want to
make contact for support
00:51:44.50\00:51:47.70
to get little more
information here how, here is
00:51:47.74\00:51:50.31
how you can do precisely that.
00:51:50.34\00:51:54.98
If you would like to
know more about this ministry
00:51:55.01\00:51:56.85
or how you can support it.
00:51:56.88\00:51:58.35
You can do so by writing
00:51:58.38\00:51:59.81
to Chinese Union C/O
Outpost Centers International,
00:51:59.85\00:52:04.89
5132 Layton Lane,
Apison, Tennessee 37302.
00:52:04.92\00:52:10.69
That's Chinese Union C/O
Outpost Centers International,
00:52:10.73\00:52:15.56
5132 Layton
Lane, Apison, TN 37302.
00:52:15.60\00:52:21.80
You can also visit
them online at KGrowth.org,
00:52:21.84\00:52:26.84
that's the letter
K then growth.org.
00:52:26.88\00:52:31.48
Contact them today.
They'd love to hear from you.
00:52:31.51\00:52:34.32