Participants: Greg and Jill Morikone (Host), James Hartley
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017048A
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00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people. 01:07 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:10 Thank you for joining us as you do each and every day, 01:14 you know, we really appreciate your support. 01:17 You know, we say some of these phrases 01:18 that may seem all the time and it just becomes, 01:20 I don't want to say wrote but we truly mean it. 01:22 We appreciate your prayers, your financial support 01:25 of the ministry of 3ABN because without you, 01:29 3ABN wouldn't be where it is. 01:31 And of course we give all glory to the Lord Jesus Christ 01:34 because it's He that has sustained this ministry 01:36 with your help through all of these years. 01:39 But, you know what neat, because we're a team. 01:40 It's that neat, you think about the impact that you were making 01:44 when you pray for this ministry or when you donate a dollar, 01:47 $100, or $,1000, $10,000 whatever that figure is, 01:51 you're putting your finances into the work of the Lord 01:55 and souls are being won for His kingdom. 01:57 That's exciting, isn't it? 01:59 I tell you it's always a blessing 02:00 to be a part of the Lord's work. 02:02 But again we thank you for joining us, 02:03 and even on radio we don't want to forget radio 02:06 and on the internet, it's interesting 02:07 we're actually finding now that more and more people, 02:09 you know use the technology and how the times are changing. 02:13 But we're able to track now, people are viewing us 02:16 more and more and more online, on the mobile devices. 02:19 I don't have mine with me, it's off to the side here, 02:22 but people are viewing 3ABN and it's neat because we know 02:26 that it's changing lives for eternity. 02:28 How much better can it get? It can't. 02:31 We have a special guest with us, don't we today? 02:33 We do, absolutely. 02:34 I'm excited about this. I am too. 02:36 We're excited about what God is doing through this ministry 02:39 that we're featuring today. 02:40 You know on the 3ABN Today programs 02:42 we always bring you different ministries 02:45 and what they're doing to spread the gospel 02:47 and this ministry is the health training evangelism ministry. 02:50 That's right. 02:52 So we have with us the president of LIGHT Ministry 02:54 James Hartley and, James, it's just a privilege and joy 02:57 to walk in you to our 3ABN Today program. 02:59 Thank you for having me. I am glad to be here. 03:01 You know it's neat because he's president of LIGHT. 03:03 And when you see light, you know, 03:04 you think president of light, L-I-G-H-T, 03:08 it's not an electrical company or a light bulb company 03:10 I guarantee you that, like Jill said 03:12 it has to do with health ministries 03:14 which is so important in spreading the gospel. 03:16 And when you think about what Jesus did 03:18 here on this earth, 03:20 He went around meeting people's needs. 03:21 Many of them the physical, yeah, 03:24 medical issues that they had. 03:25 So it's a powerful ministry 03:26 that is having an impact on the world today. 03:28 Amen, and I know we want to unpackage your story 03:30 after the music, but tell us what does LIGHT stand for. 03:32 Well, LIGHT stands for 03:34 the Lay Institute for Global Health Training, 03:36 so it is a health oriented ministry. 03:37 It's a global ministry and global missions project. 03:40 And so we do get confused sometimes 03:42 by electrical companies online, also Light Bearers, 03:46 but LIGHT is a short name and we think it works well 03:50 with our theme of spreading the gospel to the whole world. 03:52 The light from Revelation 18 that would, 03:55 angel that would lighten the earth, 03:56 arise shine for thy light is come and so forth, 04:00 so we really like that we think 04:02 that God really gave us that name. 04:03 Amen. 04:05 And I'm looking forward to unpackaging your story, 04:07 how you got involved with the ministry. 04:09 Before we do that though 04:11 I just want to read a scripture. 04:12 And this is another one along with you mentioned Isaiah 04:15 and you mentioned some of those others, 04:16 but this one is Matthew 5:16. 04:19 The Bible says, Jesus says, 04:21 part of the Sermon on the Mount. 04:22 Let your light so shine before men 04:26 that they may see your good works 04:27 and glorify your Father who is in heaven. 04:32 Right now we want to go to our special music, 04:34 that's brought to us by Pastor John Lomacang 04:37 and he will be doing a song called 04:39 "A chasing of the wind". 05:03 Every heart is filled with longing 05:11 To be free from all life's pain 05:18 Yet the search 05:22 Through earthly pleasures 05:26 Always ends in vain 05:33 Only God 05:37 Who made the heavens 05:41 Can satisfy your souls 05:48 Apart from Him 05:52 And all His meaning 05:57 All things fail 06:00 As they begin 06:04 And hearts deceived 06:08 Can only know 06:13 A chasing of the wind 06:25 All achievements 06:29 All possessions 06:33 All with time 06:36 Return to dust 06:40 But only God 06:44 Can be our reason 06:49 For deep and quiet trust 06:56 He will guard us 07:00 From the dangers 07:05 That gladly make men fools 07:13 Apart from Him 07:17 And all His meaning 07:21 All things fail 07:25 as they begin 07:29 And hearts deceived 07:32 Can only know 07:38 A chasing 07:41 Of the wind 07:46 A chasing 07:51 Of the wind 07:59 Why do we live 08:03 Without Jesus? 08:08 Why do we waste 08:11 Another day? 08:17 He is the life 08:20 That sustains us 08:25 The only hope 08:27 For us today 08:31 So tell me, 08:33 Why do we live 08:38 Why do we live 08:41 Without Him? 09:07 Amen. Thank you, Pastor John. 09:09 I tell you, it's a great song, isn't it? 09:10 Amen. 09:12 You know, why do we live without Jesus? 09:13 We shouldn't live without Jesus. 09:14 We want to make Jesus 09:16 the ruler of our lives, don't we? 09:17 I'll tell you, you know, it's... 09:19 I was just reading my Bible study actually, 09:21 you know, this morning we don't have, 09:23 tomorrow is not guaranteed, 09:25 even the next moment, what we have is today. 09:27 So I tell you we want to take advantage, don't we 09:29 of every moment that we have in our lives 09:32 to spread the word that Jesus has given to us 09:35 through the Bible to others 09:38 because it can make a difference in their lives. 09:40 Again, in case you are just joining us, 09:42 we have a special guest with us. 09:45 His name is James Hartley. Again, welcome to 3ABN. 09:48 Thank you so very much for coming here, 09:50 and he is president of a ministry called LIGHT. 09:54 And again we talked about, it's not an electrical company 09:56 or anything like that. 09:57 It has to do with medical missionary work, 09:59 medical evangelism. 10:01 And before we actually get into what LIGHT is. 10:04 Tell us again what... 10:06 Actually redefine to us what medical missionary work is 10:10 and then we want to go back 10:11 because it made an impact in your life 10:13 and how you got to know the Lord Jesus Christ. 10:15 So just tell us why medical missionary work 10:17 is important, 10:18 and then gives a little bit of your background? 10:20 Thanks for asking the question, Greg, 10:21 because I think there's a lot of confusion often 10:23 about the term medical missionary 10:25 because of the word medical, 10:26 it seems like it would be medical professionals, 10:28 physicians would it and definitely is. 10:30 But the way Ellen White talked about it, 10:31 she used it in a more broad sense, 10:33 you know, one place she said everyone should take hold 10:36 of medical missionary work, right, every church member. 10:40 So, you know, in that sense medical missionary work. 10:43 That's why we use the term actually more health evangelism 10:45 because it's little bit more easily understood. 10:48 It is. 10:49 Even in our overseas work, there's even more confusion 10:51 about the word medical missionary 10:52 because in Spanish and Portuguese, 10:54 the translation for medical is physician. 10:57 So when you say medical missionary, 10:58 you say physician missionary. 11:00 So everywhere in Latin America and in Brazil 11:03 and Portuguese speaking countries, 11:05 they see medical mission work as just a physician's work. 11:08 But this really is not the intention of it. 11:10 It's a work that we're to work like Jesus worked, 11:13 ministering to the sick, not that we're pretending 11:15 to be doctors and so forth but we're reaching out, 11:18 you know, we're showing sympathy, 11:20 we're showing care. 11:21 You know, Christ method alone will bring true success 11:23 in reaching souls. 11:25 He showed sympathy, interest, He ministered to the needs 11:28 and this is medical missionary work. 11:30 So, you know, to cut the confusion 11:32 we usually use health evangelism. 11:33 Our training courses are called 11:35 Health Evangelism training courses. 11:37 So it's reaching souls through health. 11:40 Simple health education and community work 11:42 that any layperson can do. 11:44 You know, our mission is really, 11:46 we do train medical professionals 11:48 as well in how to use their practice more 11:50 in evangelistic ways. 11:51 We teach pastors as well how to use health 11:53 as an entering wedge, but we teach all laypeople, 11:55 you know, how can they be involved 11:57 for their personal health, for their families 12:00 and for reaching others. 12:03 You know, I got into this where I wasn't 12:05 always interested in this sort of thing. 12:06 I was raised a Roman Catholic from Wisconsin. 12:09 My father in fact was a butcher, 12:11 and so I grew up working in the butcher shop 12:14 as a teenager, I was a sausage maker, 12:15 you might not have known that. 12:17 Oh, wow, no, I didn't know that. 12:18 I was a sausage maker. You did history. 12:19 I made thousands of pounds of sausage and, you know, 12:22 working around pigs and cattle and everything. 12:24 My dad had a farm and he owned the shop. 12:27 But, you know, I went through a conversion experience. 12:29 A friend of mine was traveling around Europe 12:31 and he went to a vegetarian restaurant 12:33 called Country Life in Basel, Switzerland. 12:35 It was an OCI ministry and an ASI project. 12:37 So is your friend an Adventist? 12:39 He was not, you know, he was a long haired hippie. 12:41 I was hanging out with hippie crowds 12:42 and he was just checking around following bands 12:44 around Europe and went to this restaurant 12:46 and he was witnessed to by the people there 12:49 and had long conversations 12:51 about country living organic agriculture 12:53 and natural lifestyle and so forth, 12:55 and also Christianity, you know, 12:59 and they invited my friend to a farm in Italy 13:01 and he spent there three months, 13:03 and he came back and told me all about it, 13:05 and I ended up going back there with him 13:07 and I spent three months also, 13:08 so the first Seventh-day Adventist I met 13:09 were in Italy on a farm, the Olovichi family Alberto 13:12 and Vittorio Olovichi in a little farm 13:14 called Cuddo Santo. 13:16 I spent three months there and God really changed my life. 13:18 It was just amazing changing the way I eat, 13:21 changed the way I lived. 13:22 Working on the farm, eating right, 13:24 hanging out with godly people, learning about 13:27 the life of Christ from a totally different angle 13:30 and I gave my life to the Lord. 13:31 Me and my friend were both baptized 13:34 the following year in near Wildwood Lifestyle Center. 13:38 It's interesting how it all worked out, 13:40 to make a long story short, the cook from Switzerland 13:43 ended up coming near Wildwood to run an organic farm 13:46 and he invited us to come on and work with him. 13:48 And so I worked one year on this farm and got, you know, 13:52 learn more about the Adventist. 13:54 At first I thought it was an Italian church, 13:55 the Seventh-day Adventist church, 13:57 I didn't know it was even in the US. 13:58 Because you have never heard of an Adventist church 13:59 in United States. 14:01 Never heard of it from anyone in my time in Wisconsin. 14:02 But anyway God really touched my heart 14:05 and I was baptized in late 1999 and soon after in 2000 move 14:10 to Wildwood Lifestyle Center, I was trained there. 14:12 I got involved in ministry there 14:14 for about seven years, 14:15 I was director for their school, 14:16 of the College of Health Evangelism. 14:20 We've changed it now to Center of Health Evangelism now. 14:22 And so I got interested in LIGHT 14:24 because I saw a huge need 14:26 along with several other ministry leaders 14:28 Charles Cleveland and others who was the president 14:30 for health education resources, and several of us at Wildwood, 14:34 we saw a huge need in the world field 14:36 for mission courses because, you know, 14:40 we did a survey of all, there is 112 unions 14:42 in the world field and we found that 14:44 there was only about 20 out of 112 14:46 that even had lay training 14:49 for health ministries, health evangelism. 14:50 This is for the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 14:52 That's right. That's what, yeah. 14:53 And so, you know, to us you know this was sad 14:56 because if every member of the church 14:58 should take hold of medical missionary work, 15:00 well, how are they going to take hold of 15:01 if they don't even know what it is. 15:03 You know, I want to just go back 15:04 just because you were, was it early 20s or late teens 15:06 that you went over to Italy. 15:08 I was 21. 15:09 So did you come from then the butcher shop 15:11 there in Wisconsin still working? 15:12 Basically. Okay. 15:14 So what made you interested, you know, 15:15 because here you're processing, you know, 15:16 a lot of different foods, you know, 15:18 maybe not the best health for somebody. 15:20 So what was intriguing about health? 15:22 Were you sick or what made you interested then 15:26 and changing your lifestyle because something 15:27 had to have piqued your interest? 15:29 These people that you went to see, 15:31 you have to see a difference because otherwise, 15:33 if I see something I'm like, you know, okay, that's nice. 15:35 That's nice. 15:36 What's the reason of changing if I'm comfortable here, 15:38 there's nothing really better here, 15:40 something with these people or something with the lifestyle 15:42 had to have piqued your interest. 15:43 Well, it's interesting. 15:45 Honestly I wasn't all that interested in health. 15:46 Good thing was my friend that first went to Europe 15:48 because I would have never gone to a vegetarian restaurant. 15:51 But he was already kind of more interested than me. 15:53 I went more for the country living experience 15:56 and for simplistic living I was... 15:57 So living off the land. Yeah, living off the land. 15:59 I was reading a lot of, you know, 16:00 books on eastern religions and simplistic living 16:04 and so forth and simple diets. 16:06 I was interested, it was my first experiment. 16:08 But I'll tell you the food was fantastic. 16:10 I mean, it was almost all made from scratch. 16:12 The mother there was making handmade pasta, 16:16 all sauces and herbs from the farm, 16:18 they grew their own wheat. 16:19 I think we're ready to go. 16:20 They had their own olive trees. 16:22 They pressed their own olives for olive oil, 16:24 it was just really an amazing introduction 16:26 to vegetarian living so yeah. 16:29 So did you start feeling better or you didn't notice? 16:31 I did. You didn't? 16:32 Within, no, I did, within two weeks I noticed 16:35 my energy levels. 16:36 Of course, I was into some drug usage and so forth 16:40 but I had stopped all that on this farm 16:41 and within two weeks of, you know, 16:43 stopping to smoke pot and so forth and eating good 16:46 and exercising on the farm my whole body just became, 16:50 you know, way more, I had way more energy. 16:52 I thought my mind was much clearer. 16:54 So when I was hearing the life of Christ taught, 16:57 every morning we had a little devotion 16:59 and they would talk about the life of Christ. 17:01 It really struck me in a way it never did before. 17:03 And I've noticed that in my life times 17:05 that I was taking care more of my health. 17:07 I tend to hear more the voice of God. 17:09 I would agree with that. 17:10 And this is what we've seen 17:12 and why we think it's so important. 17:13 And I think that's what's really neat 17:14 because I know we're going to touch on this 17:16 a little bit more but you know that 17:17 your own personal testimony 17:19 about what if we call the health message 17:21 or health evangelism in our own lives, 17:23 then we can speak that to somebody else. 17:25 So it makes a tremendous impact that way. 17:27 Absolutely, and that's how we want to empower people 17:29 to take better care of themselves, 17:31 educate them on the health message, 17:34 show them how to eat better, how to cook, 17:37 understand about nutrition and disease, 17:39 and then when they're benefited, 17:40 they'll have something to share with others. 17:42 And we see this is how Jesus worked, 17:43 He worked healing. 17:45 In fact if you look through the gospels you see 17:47 He spent more of His time healing the sick 17:49 than just preaching and teaching 17:51 even though He was the best preacher 17:52 and the best teacher obviously the world has ever had 17:54 but His job wasn't just to heal people 17:57 and He didn't heal people by the masses. 17:59 He healed them one by one. 18:01 He'd spend time individually with them 18:03 because He wanted to show 18:05 the character of God's love to them, 18:07 not just be a talker, right, not just tell them 18:10 that God is a God of love, 18:11 He showed them that God was the God of love, 18:13 and when you're involved helping people 18:15 in practical ways, they see the gospel. 18:17 Ellen White says that the health message 18:20 is the right arm of the gospel. 18:21 It's the pioneer work of the gospel. 18:24 She says, it is the gospel practiced. 18:26 And so, this is a new way we want to show people 18:30 of spreading the gospel through helping people 18:33 and letting our light shine like the scripture 18:35 that we read, you know. 18:36 You know, the way He said, 18:37 your light shines is through your good works, 18:39 right, people see, they won't see your faith 18:41 unless they see it active in helping them so. 18:44 So you came into the church really 18:46 through the health message. 18:48 Health message was the first thing 18:49 that brought you in and your mind was open 18:51 and clear and receptive 18:53 to the truth in the Word of God, 18:54 then you were baptized here in the States, 18:57 you spent those seven years at Wildwood 18:59 and then now the Lord is putting on your heart, 19:02 and you said Cleveland, 19:03 Charles Cleveland's heart to begin LIGHT. 19:06 So tell us about the origin of that 19:07 and the beginning of LIGHT? 19:09 So we started with a couple of pilot projects. 19:11 One was a mission school because to train... 19:13 Our idea was that people need to have availability 19:17 for training in their country and in their language. 19:19 And so we started saying, 19:21 by thinking we need to deploy teams 19:22 to different countries and run field courses 19:24 in their country 19:26 because you can't expect people to fly, 19:28 you know, across the world to places 19:30 like Wildwood for training, they need to be, 19:33 we can train them by the thousands in their country. 19:34 Yes. 19:36 We should probably explain because some people 19:37 don't even know what Wildwood is. 19:38 It's not like a piece of wood as wildwood, 19:40 all kinds of any wood. 19:42 Yeah, it's actually not so wild, 19:43 but Wildwood Lifestyle Center is a 600 acre property 19:47 outside of Chattanooga, Tennessee. 19:48 It's one of the longest running supporting ministries 19:50 in the Adventist denomination. 19:52 We just celebrated our 75th year. 19:53 Is it really 75 years? 75 years, that's incredible. 19:56 And so it's a thriving ministry, 19:58 it's an outpost to Chattanooga. 20:00 We have a health food store. 20:02 We have an organic farm, an active lifestyle center 20:05 with a waiting list for guests to come in there. 20:08 And you have a training school. 20:09 And there we have a training school. 20:10 The Center of Health Evangelism 20:12 and LIGHT really was birthed out of that school, okay. 20:15 You know, we can't just have the school here, 20:17 we need the health school start around the world. 20:19 So we built another office right next door. 20:21 I've got a picture of it here. 20:22 Okay. Maybe we could show. 20:24 So this is our LIGHT office, our global headquarters 20:27 and just want to also point out my wife first of all, Dannie, 20:31 she is such a huge blessed to me 20:32 and our little daughter Laila. 20:34 She is cute. That's our first family. 20:36 There you are with elder Ted Wilson. 20:37 Yeah, Elder Ted and his wife Nancy visited us this year 20:41 and it was a huge encouragement to us. 20:43 Elder Mark Finley dedicated our office 20:45 when we first began in 2008 20:48 and now to have Ted Wilson come in and inspire us. 20:49 And he is the General Conference president 20:51 of Seventh-day Adventist. 20:53 Yes, he's a huge support. 20:54 He made a promotional video for us. 20:56 The whole health department from the General Conference 20:57 has been supportive of our project 20:59 and by God's blessing, well, what we've compiled, 21:03 what our idea was 21:05 to spread training around the world. 21:07 We thought we need to make training 21:08 a little bit more concise and simple, 21:10 not just a long six month course. 21:13 So we started with a couple of field courses 21:15 in the beginning project courses 21:16 that were six months long and that worked, 21:18 but it's a little long and it's hard 21:21 to get the ball rolling doing this. 21:23 So we decided to make a one month course 21:25 as an introductory course. 21:26 And so it took us several years, 21:28 but I've got a copy of our manual here. 21:30 This is a 350 page manual 21:33 called the Essentials of Health Evangelism. 21:35 And so in here you're gonna study 21:37 the eight laws of health, natural remedies, 21:40 nutrition, lifestyle diseases, 21:42 how to prevent disease with right lifestyle, 21:45 hydrotherapy, massage and also a lot of Bible classes 21:48 because we want to train missionaries 21:51 that are able to help people physically and spiritually. 21:54 So we have classes on soul winning, evangelism, 21:56 or how to have a successful Christian life, 21:58 we teach the Three Angles' Message 22:00 and the prophecies of Daniel to give a sense of the times 22:04 that we're living in and the work 22:05 that needs to be done now. 22:07 So this manual we have trained in a... 22:10 We teach it in a 125 hour intensive course. 22:13 We can do this in one month. 22:15 All right. It's pretty intense. 22:16 Can I take a look? Yeah, yeah sure. 22:18 So this is what's used for your one month course? 22:21 Yes, yes. Okay. 22:22 And since 2008 we've trained over 20, 000 pastors 22:26 and church members with this training 22:27 in 85 different countries. 22:28 20,000? Over 20,000. 22:30 Well, say that again because that was quick, 22:31 so, okay, since 2008... 22:33 Since 2008, so in 10 years of period 22:35 we've trained over 20,000 pastors 22:37 and church members in 85 different countries. 22:41 And this has just been, it's not all have been us 22:43 or office staff, it's only about seven 22:45 that we have at our headquarters, 22:46 but we're supporting financially 50 missionaries 22:50 that are full time overseas actively doing courses. 22:53 Even today there are several courses going on 22:55 as we speak in Brazil, in Barbados, in Nigeria. 22:59 In Barbados we have 100 church members 23:01 currently studying this curriculum. 23:03 Right now? Wow. 23:04 And so it's hard for me to even keep up 23:07 with how much it's grown. 23:08 Once we develop this curriculum, 23:10 we have it translated in 12 different languages. 23:13 We have it in Chinese, Mandarin, we have in Korean, 23:15 Spanish, Portuguese, French, Russian, Swahili, 23:20 Tamil from India. 23:22 And so people we want them to be taught in their language. 23:25 The materials need to be in their language for them 23:28 to really do something with it 23:29 and something they can walk away with. 23:31 And you used local people 23:33 as far as your missionaries to teach? 23:35 Yeah, so, you know, if we want to impact a country 23:38 first we send a team in to do short trainings, 23:41 these short essential trainings and then we're looking 23:44 to develop a team and because we want to really 23:47 start a six month training school, 23:49 and the six month courses then train leaders to go out 23:51 and teach more one month courses 23:53 and to spread around. 23:55 And so let me also add, you know, 23:58 when we work overseas, we work hand in hand 24:01 with Seventh-day Adventist church leadership 24:03 and we found that to be a very important aspect 24:05 of our mission. 24:07 To receive their support? 24:08 Yeah, to receive their support, 24:10 we've just found greater blessings 24:12 when we're working hand in hand together. 24:14 There's a statement from Ellen White 24:16 in the ninth volume of the Testimony. 24:18 She says, God's work on earth can never be finished 24:22 until the men and women 24:24 comprising our church membership rally 24:26 to the work and unite their efforts 24:27 with those of ministers and church leaders. 24:30 We take that to heart, we want to finish 24:32 the work of God on this earth. 24:33 We don't want to work in an independent way, 24:35 we don't want to work isolate and, 24:37 or teach people to work in an isolative way 24:40 whether every man's doing his own thing. 24:42 We have to work together. 24:44 We need more unity, so we only work 24:46 when we have a letter of invitation 24:47 from the local leadership. 24:49 And so that is actually the fact 24:51 that we've done that way as a lay ministry, 24:53 it has helped develop confidence, 24:55 where unions, they see our track record. 24:58 They can get reference from us from the General Conference 25:00 or from their own division. 25:02 We've worked with over 200 25:04 Seventh-day Adventist conferences and unions 25:05 where they invite us to come in and give support 25:08 to their health ministries department 25:10 which often is it's a little undermanned 25:14 and under funded often. 25:15 There's just one person sometimes for a whole union, 25:18 they don't have much of a budget. 25:20 So we're there to support these unions to come in 25:23 and do field courses with churches, 25:26 we teach churches how to get involved 25:28 in their communities actively 25:30 spreading the gospel through health. 25:32 Okay, so then we're gonna put your contact information 25:35 up here toward the end of the program. 25:37 But if someone's watching at home 25:39 and they say, boy, that's great. 25:40 I want to be involved. 25:41 I want to get this training. 25:43 Just explain to me again step by step 25:44 how we become involved so I'm a member of a church 25:46 and I say, boy, I think my church wants to be involved, 25:48 let's start with the local church. 25:50 I'm gonna contact you, then what happens next? 25:52 So I contact you and say 25:54 our church wants to be involved, 25:55 then what happens? 25:56 From our website you can request a team 25:58 to come to your church and do a short training. 25:59 So a team from LIGHT will come to my church. 26:02 Yes. 26:03 Like a weekend training is that what you mentor. 26:04 Yeah, we do weekend 26:06 and we do one week trainings in the US. 26:07 We also do one month courses at 26:10 one of our affiliate schools, Eden Valley. 26:12 Oh, yes. 26:14 And then, oh, you know, they could if they wanted 26:16 to come to a place like Wildwood 26:17 and get a six month training, 26:19 that's where our headquarters is 26:20 and if they want to get more involved 26:22 but in their local church they could invite us, right. 26:24 Or they could also take our training online. 26:26 We have video recorded the entire 125 hour training. 26:31 Okay, that's incredible. 26:32 The hydrotherapy classes, multiple camera angles, 26:35 there's cooking classes, it's very, you know, 26:37 it's very interactive. 26:38 Do you have a lot of people do it online? 26:39 Yeah, we have 700 students currently online. 26:43 And we also recorded the whole thing in Spanish 26:46 and in Korean and we're working on Chinese right now. 26:51 And we're halfway finished with Portuguese and Russian, 26:54 and so French is our next one that we'll be doing. 26:57 So we found this to be very effective, 26:59 so people can get an online training. 27:00 And then sometimes our teams will come in and follow up 27:03 with a group that's been studying online 27:05 and give more of the hands on training 27:07 and experience and so. 27:09 Yeah, people can invite us to their church, 27:11 or they could get training online, 27:12 or they could come to one of our affiliate schools 27:14 for training. 27:15 Now where are your affiliate schools overseas? 27:17 Because we have a global audience 27:18 not just here in the United States. 27:20 So what are some of the schools overseas? 27:22 Our website shows 50 projects that we're affiliated 27:25 with around the world. 27:26 So every continent we have, 27:28 we have schools in the Philippines 27:30 and Indonesia. 27:31 We have a new school starting now in Kazakhstan. 27:34 For those listening from Kazakhstan, 27:36 Bulgaria, Austria, Norway, Portugal, Brazil, 27:41 Chile, Bolivia, Honduras, Dominican Republic Colombia, 27:49 Mexico, and in the US it's Wildwood, 27:52 Uchee Pines and Eden Valley. 27:54 In Australia's it's Eastward College. 27:56 In Africa we have a project in Nigeria and Kenya 27:59 and in South Africa and so, you know, 28:02 it's just some of those projects 28:04 already were existing that we affiliated with. 28:07 And we have a team that develop curriculum 28:09 because we want our curriculum to be up-to-date medically, 28:11 we wanted to be very accurate and progressive 28:14 and grow and improving 28:15 but when you're running a school I've run, 28:17 I've run one of this mission schools, 28:18 I know it's hard to find time to do that sort of thing. 28:20 So we have a whole team that develops this material 28:23 and lets our other schools use it freely. 28:25 There's no cost of being an affiliate school with LIGHT. 28:28 But it keeps us networked together sharing, 28:30 and when the school in Honduras has a need for a teacher, 28:34 we can put out a request to our schools in Columbia 28:37 and in Dominican Republic and Mexico 28:39 and they fill those needs. 28:40 And graduates are constantly coming out of these schools 28:43 and there's opportunities everywhere. 28:45 When our students at Wildwood are finished 28:46 with their training, they know exactly 28:47 what opportunities that they have. 28:49 They've been hearing about LIGHT the whole six months 28:51 and all these opportunities that they hear about Indonesia, 28:54 they hear about the work 28:55 in that's going on now in Malawi, 28:57 in Brazil and we have... 28:59 Now there's too many opportunities for them. 29:01 We need more missionaries, so we're just trying 29:03 to train more people because there're so much need. 29:06 And so... 29:08 I'm sure you have some amazing stories too 29:10 because you know these people 29:12 now are going out and starting to, 29:13 I mean make obviously huge impacts 29:16 in the world as a whole. 29:18 Do you have something you want to share 29:19 from an experience from somebody or yourself? 29:22 Yeah, well let me just share a couple stories right now 29:25 from the Middle East because we tend to think 29:26 that you know the Muslim world is unreachable 29:29 or we're intimidated, you know, on how to how to approach them. 29:33 But I want to share a picture here 29:35 from a school training that we did in Northern Africa. 29:38 It's kind of a more of a private thing 29:40 but I can show a picture. 29:41 This is a health expo in Tunisia, 29:43 our graduates went and, you know, 29:45 as long as it's health based you can work. 29:48 Our school in Portugal moves down into Morocco 29:51 and does medical work, okay. 29:53 Now in Tunisia we've done these health expos 29:55 and now an exciting thing that's so happening right now 29:59 is in Bulgaria, it's because we couldn't figure 30:01 a place within the Middle East 30:03 to actually have a school building 30:05 and everything is so complicated with property 30:07 so just across the Turkey border in Bulgaria 30:10 the Lord gave us a property. 30:11 We have a new school building there 30:13 and we're training people in cooperation with Mena, 30:15 Mena is the Middle East North Africa Union. 30:19 We're training people in Bulgaria and deploying them 30:21 throughout the Middle East 30:23 to work as medical missionaries. 30:25 And so we just had our first six month graduation 30:28 at that school in Bulgaria and all of our graduates 30:31 are committed to working in the Middle East. 30:33 And so we just finished our last month, 30:36 our first health expo in Turkey. 30:38 And several lay students will be staying in Turkey 30:41 throughout the year. 30:42 And so this is a picture of a health expo in Turkey. 30:47 And in fact this is the Tunisia picture, 30:50 the very next one we can just go. 30:52 And what's taking place here in Tunisia? 30:54 Tunisia, this is a health expo. Okay. 30:55 And then we follow it with a stop... 30:57 Open to the public? 30:58 Open to the public, 31:00 we follow it with a stop smoking seminar. 31:01 We had several Bible interest by Muslim people 31:03 by just seeing the kind of work 31:05 that we were doing they were very impressed. 31:06 This is a picture from Turkey. 31:08 We had 200 people come to this park. 31:10 That looks outside, yeah. 31:11 Yeah, because we didn't, we wanted to, 31:14 we don't want to limit with a building. 31:15 We didn't know how many would come. 31:17 But over 200 people come, they were extremely interested. 31:20 Never saw anything like this before. 31:22 How did you advertise? 31:23 Just by flyer... Word of mouth. 31:25 Yeah, word of mouth. 31:26 Yeah, because it's a health thing 31:28 you can advertise. 31:29 Right. Okay. 31:30 We're not preaching the gospel, you know, 31:32 outwardly it's preaching through our actions. 31:34 And it's powerful. 31:35 See that's the entering wedge 31:36 that you were talking about earlier. 31:38 So we teach the church to make their reputation 31:42 through health ministries. 31:44 People should view Adventist life. 31:46 I mean they're so active with health, right. 31:49 They're great people 31:50 even if they may not agree necessarily 31:52 with all of our doctrines, if they could at least say, 31:55 they are the most loving, 31:56 lovable people that are so helpful 31:58 and have so many community works that's going on. 32:00 I mean, they're not going to want to push us away. 32:03 So in Turkey we really hope that we have good enrolls, 32:05 pray for the work in Turkey this year. 32:07 That's something really exciting 32:08 and new that we hope will launch 32:11 into a larger initiative for reaching the Muslim world 32:14 through the health message. 32:15 Yeah, that's a positive response. 32:16 Two hundred, you said is that correct, 32:18 came to this park? 32:19 From the beginning. 32:20 Did you get Bible study interest from that? 32:22 Yes, absolutely. 32:23 So, you know, there when you're counseling 32:24 and talking with people you can say that sort of thing, 32:26 you know, as you find openings, the Holy Spirit leads you. 32:29 In Tunisia, you know, we could see that these men 32:31 that were trying to stop smoking, 32:33 they started to ask more and more questions. 32:34 You know who are you guys 32:36 and they found out we're Christians, like oh, wow. 32:37 So this is what it is to be a Christian, right. 32:39 This is their viewpoint of a Christian 32:41 that a Christian is someone that helps them that has, 32:43 shows interest that is full of love 32:44 and compassion and so they want to know more. 32:47 So they ask, you know, 32:49 how can I learn more about this, 32:50 so, you know, we study with individuals. 32:52 I was in West Africa in Guinea and we did a health expo 32:56 as well for a Muslim group 32:58 and a man asked for Bible studies right there. 33:00 I mean, he was just and so he came every evening 33:03 while we were there studying the Bible. 33:04 We were ministering to him 33:05 helping him stop smoking as well. 33:07 And he ended up getting baptized 33:09 after the one month that we were there. 33:11 In fact that was one of the most amazing 33:13 one month schools I've ever been a part of. 33:14 We had seven baptisms at the end of that 33:17 Guinea West Africa, yeah, 33:19 and three of them were Muslim people 33:22 and the rest were Christians from other denominations 33:24 getting baptized into the Adventist faith. 33:26 So that's really interestingly, you said not everyone 33:29 who attends the one month training school 33:31 is even a Seventh-day Adventist. 33:33 That's right. 33:34 So you could be any denomination 33:36 or not even Christian, you can be Muslim 33:38 and still want to come in... 33:39 We're not going to turn anybody away. 33:41 Lord brings people to us. 33:42 In Brazil we just finished a course in Sao Paolo 33:45 and another three ladies came 33:47 that were not Seventh-day Adventists, 33:48 they were of other faiths and but so impressed 33:51 during the month learning about the gospel 33:54 and the health message and the Three Angels' message. 33:57 So impressed we gave additional studies to them 33:59 for the whole month. 34:01 And one of those ladies was already baptized 34:02 and there was two that are being worked on, 34:05 so it's really, it's really exciting. 34:07 The work in Brazil is growing so fast. 34:10 You know, there's more Seventh-day Adventists 34:12 in Brazil than any other country, 34:13 I thought I'll plug Brazil because my wife is Brazilian. 34:15 All right, very good. That's a good plug. 34:16 I met my wife at Wildwood in 2006. 34:19 She came as a student 34:21 and in 2008 she went back to Brazil. 34:23 I followed her there. 34:24 We did a lot of LIGHT work in 2008 in Brazil 34:28 and we started courtship and worked together 34:31 for two years and we were married in 2010. 34:34 So Brazil, yeah, I just love being married to someone 34:38 equally dedicated to missionary work. 34:40 And she's a great teacher. 34:41 So we've gone, she teaches more of the health classes, 34:43 I teach more of the Bible classes 34:45 and evangelism, and it's just great to work as a family. 34:48 So, and I'm thinking about the flyers that you put up, 34:50 to say in Turkey or you're mentioning, 34:52 was it East Africa or was it West Africa? 34:55 Sorry, so you put up a flyer, how would you, 34:57 because this would be just for the public, right? 34:59 So what would you put on it? 35:00 What would peak the interest, you'd say what? 35:02 Stop smoking seminar or what would you put on there? 35:04 Well, we show what services we're going to be providing. 35:06 Okay, which would be...? 35:07 We show and we have blood pressure checks, 35:09 we have lung capacity checks. 35:12 Free of charge? Yeah, it's all free. 35:14 You know, we offer body fat analysis, 35:16 nutritional counseling. 35:18 We offer free massage. 35:20 Sometimes we're giving away food samples 35:22 and how to eat better. 35:23 But usually we're using the help expos 35:24 to follow into other programs. 35:26 And so you don't, it's not just a one time event. 35:28 We say if you want to, you know, 35:30 really turn your life around health wise, you know, 35:33 nutrition is a big part of it. 35:34 So we show them, we promote then our cooking classes, okay. 35:39 So when you take a one month course, 35:41 you're learning how to do these things. 35:42 You're learning how to run a health expo 35:43 and how to have follow-up programs ready, 35:45 cooking classes and health seminars. 35:48 And another thing that we teach our students 35:50 how to set up a health club. 35:51 A health club is a local community club. 35:54 It's usually, we shouldn't, I don't think in most cases 35:57 not you shouldn't run out of your church 35:59 because you want to, 36:00 you want to break down prejudice, 36:02 so we have a neutral location 36:03 and it meets regularly once a month. 36:06 We're teaching health classes, and healthy recipes, 36:09 and eating together, and socializing together, 36:11 making friends. 36:13 This has been very, very effective. 36:15 In Indonesia, a place we've done a lot of training. 36:17 Our graduates have worked together. 36:20 And one lady that we connected with 36:23 an Adventist business lady, 36:24 she bought a health food store 36:26 to promote the health club item. 36:27 We had this health food store. 36:29 This is in Jakarta and the health club 36:31 was on the second level. 36:33 So all the customers would get advert, 36:36 they learn about the health club 36:37 from shopping there, and then on the weekends 36:39 we'd have health club on the second level 36:40 and our graduates would be up there teaching classes 36:42 and cooking classes and things. 36:43 We had 80 people coming every single weekend, 36:46 every weekend on that one. 36:47 It worked so well that this lady felt impressed 36:50 to buy the third level. 36:53 And so the third level is a church now. 36:55 So you have the health food store 36:56 on the first level, then you have 36:58 the health club on the second, 36:59 and then you have church on the third level, 37:01 so it's step one, two, three, that's just amazing 37:04 and it works so well that this Adventist business lady 37:08 bought a second one and a third one 37:10 and now a fourth one, so there's four locations 37:13 in Jakarta four health food stores, 37:15 four health clubs, four new churches. 37:16 New four churches. Yeah. 37:18 That's incredible. 37:19 So, yeah, you have to have manpower 37:21 to do this sort of thing, right. 37:22 People have to be trained so we offer training. 37:24 We give the counsel, the ideas, you know, 37:27 materials they can use 37:28 for their health club and so forth. 37:30 So we have a lot of individuals obviously that are watching, 37:33 you know, 3ABN they may, 37:34 you know, have a very small church. 37:35 Okay, so you have one person and so now they're saying, 37:38 oh, boy, lot of manpower needed, 37:40 I am just one I might as well not even try it 37:43 because I can attend the training course 37:44 but then what happens? 37:46 So can you, what about me. 37:47 Okay, I'm here in an isolated area. 37:49 I say I want to take a training course online, 37:51 and I may not have a lot of manpower, 37:53 is there still something that I can do 37:55 to be involved somehow? 37:56 Well, you know, it's important to get your church inspired. 37:59 And so I would try to invite one of our teams 38:01 to your local church... 38:03 To get the church inspired? 38:04 Yeah, let's have a health emphasis Sabbath, right. 38:05 Someone to speak about the importance of it. 38:07 I've always seen that to generate interest. 38:10 People just need to be taught. 38:11 You know it needs to be spoken about. 38:13 Often it's not, it's just not dealt with so much, okay. 38:17 So if we can come in and you just even 38:19 spend a week in there to give that person a little support. 38:22 In St. Louis I did a training. 38:24 The health and temperance leader 38:26 at the Central St. Louis Church, 38:28 she invited us, she said, you know, 38:30 "I just need some support. 38:31 Can you come and do a program?" 38:33 So we came and we did a program 38:34 and I promoted our online school, 38:36 you know, ideal for the church to sign up as a group 38:39 and they signed up 15 people. 38:40 All 15 went through the whole training 38:42 and then they got the light. 38:43 You know the lights turned on 38:45 and they just started doing all sorts of things. 38:46 Boy, I never thought about that this was the name. 38:48 That's very good, then they got the light. 38:49 Yes, that's excellent. 38:50 They were doing health expos, and outreach, 38:52 and cooking classes in the church, 38:54 it's really improved the outreach of that church. 38:56 So yeah, you know, 38:58 pastors also need to get inspired and so... 39:00 Yeah, because they inspire their congregation. 39:03 In Rio de Janeiro, the union, the president there realized 39:07 he wants every single pastor to get this training, 39:10 not the whole one month but a short one week training. 39:13 So we're doing that now because when the pastors 39:15 are inspired about it, it really filters back 39:18 to the church members. 39:20 And so, yeah, I just want to share a testimony 39:22 from Brazil because I've made quite a few visits down there 39:28 with my wife and we've made such a good relationship 39:31 with this Rio de Janeiro Union, 39:32 it's called the Southeast Union, 39:33 it's Rio de Janeiro and two other states. 39:35 It's one of the biggest unions in the world. 39:38 Membership wise or land wise? Yeah, membership wise. 39:41 A quarter of million people just in that one union. 39:45 And so the union health director invited us down, 39:48 we did a training, he got inspired, 39:49 and now we had a massive meeting, 39:51 I've got a picture here from one of our schools, 39:54 we have a six month school and lifestyle center. 39:56 This is a picture from our lifestyle center. 39:58 Oh, that's beautiful. It is. 40:00 Not too far from Rio de Janeiro in a state called Minas Gerais. 40:04 So these are all health directors, 40:06 one of them is the union health director 40:08 and the nine other ones are the nine health directors 40:12 from each conference within the union. 40:14 And so we have a strategy now, we've already implemented, 40:16 we've done several trainings, we're doing a training 40:19 in every conference and then we're sending people 40:22 to our headquarters which is at 40:23 that lifestyle center called Serra do Cipó. 40:27 It's a great project. It's only two years old. 40:29 They already have a full life style program. 40:31 They've got a six month training course. 40:33 They're doing one month courses and they've already started 40:35 two other ministries out from it. 40:37 So the churches are just getting on fire there. 40:39 That union did 300 health expos last year. 40:42 Three hundred? Three hundred, yeah. 40:44 That's a lot. 40:46 They're really taking hold of it 40:47 so I'll be down there next month as well 40:48 to do a major training. 40:50 There's 11 new ministries starting in that, 40:52 just in that union alone. 40:54 So the church member... 40:56 It's exploding there as it grows. 40:57 It is. It is. Wow. 40:58 And this is what we need, 41:00 we need total member involvement. 41:01 I love this initiative from the North American Division, 41:03 TMI, total member involvement. 41:04 So this is what LIGHT is all about. 41:06 We're training church members so that they can get involved 41:09 and there're so many different ways 41:10 that they can get involved so, 41:12 if they just open themselves to get some training 41:15 and then get involved. 41:16 If you've taken one of our courses somewhere, 41:18 you know, we have plenty of opportunities for you 41:20 in the mission field. 41:23 So maybe those that are at home that are listening, 41:25 if they took the online course or if they went 41:27 to one of our places and took training. 41:29 We have opportunities, there are so many needs. 41:31 I'm turning down opportunities every week unfortunately 41:35 because I don't have the manpower. 41:36 Yeah, we don't have the manpower. 41:38 There is, suddenly health is, there's an awakening of health, 41:41 I don't know if you've noticed this. 41:43 Yes, we have. 41:44 In recent years there's such a huge awakening. 41:45 Sadly, you know, some of our areas in the world 41:48 we're a little bit behind on it, okay. 41:50 So there's a lot of catch up work to do and... 41:53 Some exciting things I think 41:55 are taking place in Asia, is that right? 41:56 Yes. Well. 41:57 Yeah, absolutely. Tell us about Asia? 41:59 So in Korea we have very little manpower in Korea. 42:03 We don't have an actual school there, 42:06 but we were doing short trainings 42:07 as we saw a need for something more. 42:09 So we decided to record our entire curriculum 42:12 with Chinese speakers, 42:13 so we flew different Chinese teachers, physicians, 42:16 pastors to teach all of these classes, 42:18 put it into our online school. 42:21 Where did they record that? 42:23 We recorded it almost all of it at Wildwood. 42:24 Okay. 42:25 And so there's a lot of Koreans in Atlanta as well 42:27 that helped us out. 42:29 But some of them traveled from quite a distance 42:32 and now we're working 42:33 with the Northern Asia Pacific division president. 42:36 And he has in fact given a promo video for us 42:39 and we are signing up now 3000 Korean Adventists 42:43 through our LIGHT training. 42:44 It's a newly... Three thousand? 42:46 Three thousand, currently we already have 42:47 450 students registered and so now we're just, 42:50 just last month started this initiative 42:52 so they're just gonna be now bringing in men more. 42:55 By the end of next year we'll have 3000. 42:57 That's the goal to train. Are they doing it online? 43:00 It's all online. Yeah. 43:01 And then we have somebody one person in the country 43:03 that follows up and travels around 43:05 to the different churches to speak 43:06 and kind of get them refocused 43:08 on how they can use this training. 43:10 And so, yeah, it's really, 43:12 there's a picture actually of the president... 43:14 This is the president 43:16 of the North Asia Pacific Division. 43:17 So the initiative is called Tell the world his hands. 43:20 His hands just speaks to the active involvement, right. 43:23 Many Christ hands. Yeah, that's exactly. 43:25 We are Christ's hands, right. 43:27 We should let our light shine so it's working cooperation 43:29 with Wildwood and LIGHT. 43:31 And so that's exciting and in China as well, 43:34 same division where we just finished 43:36 our Mandarin curriculum translation, 43:39 and we're in the midst of recording 43:40 our online school in Chinese which is even to me 43:43 more important in a sense because it's harder to get 43:46 into China to do the course that we're doing 43:48 because it's religious in nature 43:51 and mainland China is not that open. 43:54 So with online through the internet ways, right, 43:57 we can train Adventists into as missionaries, 44:02 you know, without having to be physically there. 44:05 So we have different ways that we're going to be doing that 44:07 and different websites that we're going to be using 44:09 and shifting around to try to stay out of any trouble there. 44:12 And we're also gonna be doing one 44:16 with just health classes that we're going to promote 44:18 to the public at large and a marketing company 44:21 that has agreed to promote 44:23 to 80 million people for us for free. 44:24 This is in China. In China, yeah. 44:26 Eighty million? Eighty million. 44:28 That he has access to so it's gonna be blast, 44:30 email blasting and so forth. 44:32 So we want to use that also as an entering wedge 44:34 to train so they get kind of interest 44:35 and we've got different ways 44:37 that they'll be able to find out who we are 44:38 and where to find more information. 44:40 So in the next year our plans are to start a mission school 44:43 that's kind of will be, kind of a covert mission school 44:46 in southern China along with our lifestyle center, 44:49 and we'll have the online training 44:50 and just see where the Lord takes it from there 44:52 but we can't, yeah, we can't forget the Chinese. 44:54 No. You know, it's amazing. 44:56 I think of Jesus' commission, you know, in Matthew 28. 44:58 Go ye into the world and make disciples, 45:01 and teaching, and preaching, and baptizing. 45:03 And you think about the church in Acts 45:05 and how it exploded, from the 120 believers 45:09 in that upper room and then Peter had that sermon, 45:12 and then you think 3000, 45:14 and then if you read as you go through Acts, 45:16 the growth is exponential. 45:18 Yes. It just continues to explode. 45:21 And I'm so excited just hearing what God is doing 45:25 through the ministry of LIGHT and the explosion of growth, 45:28 the explosion of people, coming to be trained 45:31 and then going out. 45:32 I mean 20,000 people who have been trained 45:35 and you have these missionaries all over the world 45:37 and what God is doing. 45:39 Praise the Lord for that. That is incredible. 45:41 It's exciting to see what they, you throw it out there 45:44 and you teach them how to fish 45:45 and you just see what they do with it. 45:47 So I've just been amazed to see testimony after testimony, 45:49 get emails regularly sharing and all of the impact 45:52 that's made in people's lives. 45:53 Well, I'm excited too because you don't have 45:55 to be a doctor like a physician. 45:57 You're training physicians, you know, 45:58 with some of this evangelism aspect 46:00 but you know I'm not a physician 46:02 but it's something that I could actually do. 46:04 You know, I could do the almost say the basics. 46:06 But you don't have to know how to what, 46:08 we don't have to be a medical doctor or surgeon. 46:10 We're not diagnosing people. We're not diagnosing disease. 46:13 We're teaching, it's mainly health education. 46:14 It is. 46:16 It's nothing, there is nothing dangerous 46:17 about teaching someone about drinking water 46:19 and exercising, you know, 46:20 really that if every Seventh-day Adventist 46:22 knew the simple eight laws of health, 46:24 apply them to their lives... 46:26 I was just gonna say that. 46:27 There would be such a bigger light in the world 46:29 because just sharing. 46:31 You know, Ellen White even talks about it, 46:32 if we were to just bring people to a country, relaxing setting, 46:36 eating nutritious food, exercising, 46:38 following the eight laws of health. 46:40 So nine cases out of ten 46:41 people could recover from their health. 46:43 Many of the diseases that we have, 46:45 we bring upon ourselves by poor lifestyle choices. 46:48 And so, you know, we just have, 46:50 I just hope that more will take interest in it. 46:53 And it's not so hard and it's, you know, if we come off with, 46:57 if we come across in a loving way like 47:00 with the love of Jesus in our hearts, 47:02 right, not condemning people, 47:04 not in a fanatical way, not in an extreme way, 47:06 leading people step by step. 47:08 It is just, I have found it to be the most powerful way 47:12 to reach someone, and to see it in our lifestyle center, 47:14 people giving their hearts to God 47:16 as their bodies become healed 47:18 and they're surrounded by Christian people. 47:20 It just really melts them and revives them. 47:23 Amen. 47:24 You know, it's neat to me too because I think about, 47:26 you know, your story, you know, because, you know, 47:29 you think about where God 47:30 puts you back in your late teens, 47:32 early 20s and the impact that you were making 47:36 because if you reaching out you and Mr... 47:38 Cleveland. 47:39 Cleveland, you know, number of years ago, 47:42 and now the impact the 20,000 and then that 20,000 who knows 47:46 who they all have reached 47:47 and then those people reach even more. 47:49 I mean what a amazing ripple effect, 47:52 and it's neat how you have let God use you 47:56 and that you are a vessel that God is pouring 47:58 through to others. 48:00 You probably had no idea 48:02 when you were there in the butcher shop. 48:04 Yeah. 48:05 You know, how God would be using you 48:07 in such a powerful way. 48:08 It's encouraging, isn't it? Well, it's... 48:10 You know, it's to God be the glory. 48:12 I just wanted to stay faithful and, you know, 48:14 He gave His life for me, what can I do for Him? 48:17 So when I was baptized, 48:19 I committed the rest of my life to be a missionary. 48:21 And I didn't know it would be so much in health ministries. 48:25 You know, I'm not, it was never like my main interest of life 48:27 but He directed me to and that just give me 48:29 such a burden for and a passion for it so, you know. 48:32 And I just want to say, ask people at home 48:35 that are listening to this 48:36 that they might pray for our workers 48:37 that are in the field right now. 48:39 Some of them are, they meet tremendous challenges. 48:42 We have 50 people that we're supporting. 48:44 If you couldn't yourself get involved, 48:46 I'll say that's most important if everyone could get, 48:48 you know, and engage themselves in this, 48:51 more workers are needed. 48:52 But we are supporting over 50 missionaries currently 48:55 and that can grow. 48:57 And so there is some financial support if, 48:59 but God has been good to provide for us. 49:01 When we started, you know, we ran out of money. 49:04 I remember the first year that we started, 49:05 we ran out of money seven times. 49:07 And so every time we ran out, I would send out an email 49:10 and said okay, I'm out again. 49:12 You know I had the attitude, you know, 49:14 I'm not gonna just try to hold the little that I have. 49:17 You know, use it for God's glory, 49:19 send it out to the missionaries and spend it all 49:22 in a conservative way, in a very careful way 49:24 the best that we can and then just pray that God would supply 49:27 and He has all these years. 49:28 And since then we've never, we have not, 49:32 no one has gone hungry 49:33 and we have some great fantastic directors. 49:37 You know, the way we structured, 49:38 we have divisional directors over each field, 49:40 and then we have country directors as well. 49:42 And then we have project directors, 49:44 so there is different levels of our administration. 49:47 We have a strong communication base. 49:50 We want all of our course to be very consistent. 49:52 When someone takes a LIGHT course, 49:54 we want it to be the same. 49:56 So anywhere in the world, it would always be the same 49:59 that you'd have the same manual, 50:00 the same training, the same education? 50:02 And then, you know, it's amazing 50:03 because when we needed to help 50:05 revive a project in Dominican Republic, 50:07 we took someone from Germany 50:09 and we took someone from Alabama 50:11 and we took someone from Honduras 50:12 and they had never met each other 50:14 and we put them together 50:15 and we sent them off to this country 50:18 and they were on the same page 50:19 because they had all had the same training, 50:21 and they were able to revive that project 50:24 and start a new school there. 50:26 So... Amen. 50:28 And we're gonna go to your address in just a moment. 50:30 Can you give me 20, 30 seconds, 50:32 what are some of your goals for the future? 50:34 I know you've talked to some about China 50:37 and your goals in China, but some of the other countries, 50:38 what are some of your goals? 50:40 Specifically we have a goal to see a mission school 50:42 in each of the 112 unions worldwide. 50:45 So one by one we're just going through them, 50:48 talking to church leaders. 50:49 And, you know, it's great to see when the church itself 50:54 is even helping to find properties. 50:56 Sometimes churches... 50:57 The church leaders are giving us schools 50:59 that are not being used. 51:01 In Indonesia we're using an elementary school 51:02 that was run down, we went in and fixed it all up 51:05 and turned it into a school. 51:06 Every single union we think needs a mission school, 51:08 this is a big project, right. 51:10 So it doesn't, it hasn't happened overnight 51:14 but we've already from 20 unions, 51:16 now we're already up over 50 unions 51:18 that currently have a mission school, 51:20 so it's more than doubled. 51:21 Amen. Amen. 51:22 The Lord's doing mighty things. We want to see more languages. 51:24 Amen. 51:25 More languages, more missionaries 51:27 and spread the message so that... 51:29 you know, so Jesus can come home shortly. 51:30 That's wonderful. Amen, praise the Lord. 51:32 What we want to do right now is put up 51:33 the contact information for LIGHT. 51:35 If you want to get involved, if you want to be trained, 51:38 if you want to be involved in the online school, 51:40 have the LIGHT team come to your church 51:43 or your community 51:44 and get involved in this if you want to support. 51:46 Here is how you can do just that. 51:51 If you would like to learn more about 51:52 the Lay Institute for Global Health training 51:55 or would like to support their ministry, 51:57 you can do so by writing to LIGHT, 52:00 PO Box 58, Wildwood, Georgia 30757. 52:07 That's LIGHT, PO Box 58, 52:11 Wildwood, Georgia 30757. 52:15 You may call them at area code 706-820-9804. 52:21 Or visit them online at LightingTheWorld.org. 52:24 That's LightingTheWorld.org. |
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