Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people.
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you for joining us
as you do each and every day,
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you know, we really
appreciate your support.
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You know, we say
some of these phrases
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that may seem all the
time and it just becomes,
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I don't want to say
wrote but we truly mean it.
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We appreciate your
prayers, your financial support
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of the ministry of
3ABN because without you,
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3ABN wouldn't be where it is.
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And of course we give all
glory to the Lord Jesus Christ
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because it's He that
has sustained this ministry
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with your help
through all of these years.
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But, you know what
neat, because we're a team.
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It's that neat, you think about
the impact that you were making
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when you pray for this ministry
or when you donate a dollar,
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$100, or $,1000,
$10,000 whatever that figure is,
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you're putting your finances
into the work of the Lord
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and souls are being
won for His kingdom.
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That's exciting, isn't it?
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I tell you it's
always a blessing
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to be a part of the Lord's work.
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But again we thank
you for joining us,
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and even on radio we
don't want to forget radio
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and on the
internet, it's interesting
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we're actually finding
now that more and more people,
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you know use the technology
and how the times are changing.
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But we're able to track
now, people are viewing us
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more and more and more
online, on the mobile devices.
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I don't have mine with
me, it's off to the side here,
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but people are viewing 3ABN
and it's neat because we know
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that it's changing
lives for eternity.
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How much better
can it get? It can't.
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We have a special guest
with us, don't we today?
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We do, absolutely.
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I'm excited
about this. I am too.
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We're excited about what God
is doing through this ministry
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that we're featuring today.
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You know on the
3ABN Today programs
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we always bring you
different ministries
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and what they're
doing to spread the gospel
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and this ministry is the health
training evangelism ministry.
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That's right.
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So we have with us the
president of LIGHT Ministry
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James Hartley and, James,
it's just a privilege and joy
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to walk in you to
our 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you for having
me. I am glad to be here.
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You know it's neat
because he's president of LIGHT.
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And when you
see light, you know,
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you think president
of light, L-I-G-H-T,
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it's not an electrical
company or a light bulb company
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I guarantee you
that, like Jill said
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it has to do
with health ministries
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which is so important
in spreading the gospel.
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And when you think
about what Jesus did
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here on this earth,
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He went around
meeting people's needs.
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Many of them the physical, yeah,
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medical issues that they had.
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So it's a powerful ministry
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that is having an
impact on the world today.
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Amen, and I know we
want to unpackage your story
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after the music, but tell
us what does LIGHT stand for.
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Well, LIGHT stands for
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the Lay Institute for
Global Health Training,
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so it is a health
oriented ministry.
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It's a global ministry
and global missions project.
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And so we do get
confused sometimes
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by electrical companies
online, also Light Bearers,
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but LIGHT is a short name
and we think it works well
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with our theme of spreading
the gospel to the whole world.
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The light from
Revelation 18 that would,
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angel that would
lighten the earth,
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arise shine for thy
light is come and so forth,
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so we really like that we think
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that God really
gave us that name.
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Amen.
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And I'm looking forward
to unpackaging your story,
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how you got
involved with the ministry.
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Before we do that though
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I just want to read a scripture.
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And this is another one
along with you mentioned Isaiah
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and you mentioned
some of those others,
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but this one is Matthew 5:16.
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The Bible says, Jesus says,
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part of the Sermon on the Mount.
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Let your light
so shine before men
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that they may
see your good works
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and glorify your
Father who is in heaven.
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Right now we want to
go to our special music,
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that's brought to us
by Pastor John Lomacang
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and he will be
doing a song called
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"A chasing of the wind".
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Every heart is
filled with longing
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To be free from all life's pain
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Yet the search
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Through earthly pleasures
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Always ends in vain
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Only God
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Who made the heavens
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Can satisfy your souls
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Apart from Him
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And all His meaning
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All things fail
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As they begin
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And hearts deceived
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Can only know
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A chasing of the wind
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All achievements
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All possessions
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All with time
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Return to dust
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But only God
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Can be our reason
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For deep and quiet trust
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He will guard us
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From the dangers
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That gladly make men fools
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Apart from Him
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And all His meaning
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All things fail
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as they begin
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And hearts deceived
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Can only know
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A chasing
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Of the wind
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A chasing
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Of the wind
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Why do we live
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Without Jesus?
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Why do we waste
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Another day?
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He is the life
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That sustains us
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The only hope
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For us today
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So tell me,
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Why do we live
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Why do we live
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Without Him?
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Amen. Thank you, Pastor John.
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I tell you, it's a
great song, isn't it?
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Amen.
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You know, why do
we live without Jesus?
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We shouldn't live without Jesus.
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We want to make Jesus
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the ruler of
our lives, don't we?
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I'll tell you, you know, it's...
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I was just reading
my Bible study actually,
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you know, this
morning we don't have,
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tomorrow is not guaranteed,
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even the next moment,
what we have is today.
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So I tell you we want
to take advantage, don't we
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of every moment
that we have in our lives
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to spread the word
that Jesus has given to us
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through the Bible to others
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because it can make a
difference in their lives.
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Again, in case you
are just joining us,
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we have a special guest with us.
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His name is James
Hartley. Again, welcome to 3ABN.
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Thank you so very
much for coming here,
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and he is president of
a ministry called LIGHT.
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And again we talked about,
it's not an electrical company
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or anything like that.
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It has to do with
medical missionary work,
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medical evangelism.
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And before we actually
get into what LIGHT is.
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Tell us again what...
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Actually redefine to us
what medical missionary work is
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and then we want to go back
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because it made an
impact in your life
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and how you got to
know the Lord Jesus Christ.
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So just tell us why
medical missionary work
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is important,
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and then gives a
little bit of your background?
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Thanks for asking
the question, Greg,
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because I think there's
a lot of confusion often
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about the term
medical missionary
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because of the word medical,
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it seems like it would
be medical professionals,
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physicians would
it and definitely is.
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But the way Ellen
White talked about it,
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she used it in a
more broad sense,
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you know, one place she
said everyone should take hold
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of medical missionary work,
right, every church member.
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So, you know, in that
sense medical missionary work.
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That's why we use the term
actually more health evangelism
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because it's little
bit more easily understood.
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It is.
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Even in our overseas work,
there's even more confusion
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about the word
medical missionary
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because in
Spanish and Portuguese,
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the translation for
medical is physician.
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So when you say
medical missionary,
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you say physician missionary.
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So everywhere in
Latin America and in Brazil
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and Portuguese
speaking countries,
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they see medical mission
work as just a physician's work.
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But this really is
not the intention of it.
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It's a work that we're
to work like Jesus worked,
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ministering to the sick,
not that we're pretending
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to be doctors and so
forth but we're reaching out,
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you know, we're
showing sympathy,
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we're showing care.
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You know, Christ method
alone will bring true success
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in reaching souls.
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He showed sympathy, interest,
He ministered to the needs
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and this is
medical missionary work.
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So, you know, to
cut the confusion
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we usually use
health evangelism.
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Our training courses are called
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Health
Evangelism training courses.
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So it's reaching
souls through health.
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Simple health
education and community work
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that any layperson can do.
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You know, our mission is really,
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we do train
medical professionals
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as well in how to
use their practice more
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in evangelistic ways.
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We teach pastors as
well how to use health
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as an entering wedge,
but we teach all laypeople,
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you know, how
can they be involved
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for their personal
health, for their families
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and for reaching others.
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You know, I got
into this where I wasn't
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always interested
in this sort of thing.
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I was raised a Roman
Catholic from Wisconsin.
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My father in fact was a butcher,
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and so I grew up
working in the butcher shop
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as a teenager, I
was a sausage maker,
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you might not have known that.
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Oh, wow, no, I didn't know that.
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I was a sausage
maker. You did history.
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I made thousands of
pounds of sausage and, you know,
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working around pigs
and cattle and everything.
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My dad had a farm
and he owned the shop.
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But, you know, I went
through a conversion experience.
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A friend of mine was
traveling around Europe
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and he went to a
vegetarian restaurant
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called Country Life
in Basel, Switzerland.
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It was an OCI
ministry and an ASI project.
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So is your friend an Adventist?
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He was not, you know, he
was a long haired hippie.
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I was hanging out
with hippie crowds
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and he was just
checking around following bands
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around Europe and
went to this restaurant
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and he was witnessed
to by the people there
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and had long conversations
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about country
living organic agriculture
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and natural
lifestyle and so forth,
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and also Christianity, you know,
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and they invited my
friend to a farm in Italy
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and he spent there three months,
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and he came back and
told me all about it,
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and I ended up
going back there with him
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and I spent three months also,
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so the first
Seventh-day Adventist I met
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were in Italy on a farm,
the Olovichi family Alberto
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and Vittorio
Olovichi in a little farm
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called Cuddo Santo.
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I spent three months there
and God really changed my life.
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It was just amazing
changing the way I eat,
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changed the way I lived.
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Working on the
farm, eating right,
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hanging out with
godly people, learning about
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the life of Christ from
a totally different angle
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and I gave my life to the Lord.
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Me and my friend
were both baptized
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the following year in
near Wildwood Lifestyle Center.
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It's interesting
how it all worked out,
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to make a long story
short, the cook from Switzerland
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ended up coming near
Wildwood to run an organic farm
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and he invited us to
come on and work with him.
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And so I worked one year on
this farm and got, you know,
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learn more about the Adventist.
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At first I thought it
was an Italian church,
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the Seventh-day
Adventist church,
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I didn't know it
was even in the US.
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Because you have never
heard of an Adventist church
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in United States.
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Never heard of it from
anyone in my time in Wisconsin.
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But anyway God
really touched my heart
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and I was baptized in late
1999 and soon after in 2000 move
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to Wildwood Lifestyle
Center, I was trained there.
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I got involved in ministry there
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for about seven years,
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I was director for their school,
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of the College of
Health Evangelism.
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We've changed it now to
Center of Health Evangelism now.
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And so I got interested in LIGHT
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because I saw a huge need
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along with several
other ministry leaders
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Charles Cleveland and
others who was the president
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for health education resources,
and several of us at Wildwood,
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we saw a huge
need in the world field
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for mission
courses because, you know,
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we did a survey of
all, there is 112 unions
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in the world
field and we found that
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there was only
about 20 out of 112
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that even had lay training
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for health
ministries, health evangelism.
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This is for the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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That's right. That's what, yeah.
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And so, you know, to
us you know this was sad
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because if every
member of the church
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should take hold of
medical missionary work,
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well, how are they
going to take hold of
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if they don't
even know what it is.
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You know, I want to just go back
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just because you were,
was it early 20s or late teens
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that you went over to Italy.
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I was 21.
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So did you come from
then the butcher shop
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there in
Wisconsin still working?
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Basically. Okay.
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So what made you
interested, you know,
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because here you're
processing, you know,
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a lot of
different foods, you know,
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maybe not the best
health for somebody.
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So what was
intriguing about health?
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Were you sick or what
made you interested then
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and changing your
lifestyle because something
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had to have
piqued your interest?
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These people
that you went to see,
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you have to see a
difference because otherwise,
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if I see something I'm like,
you know, okay, that's nice.
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That's nice.
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What's the reason of changing
if I'm comfortable here,
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there's nothing
really better here,
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something with these people
or something with the lifestyle
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had to have
piqued your interest.
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Well, it's interesting.
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Honestly I wasn't all
that interested in health.
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Good thing was my friend
that first went to Europe
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because I would have never
gone to a vegetarian restaurant.
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But he was already kind
of more interested than me.
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I went more for the
country living experience
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and for
simplistic living I was...
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So living off the land.
Yeah, living off the land.
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I was reading a
lot of, you know,
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books on eastern
religions and simplistic living
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and so forth and simple diets.
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I was interested, it
was my first experiment.
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But I'll tell you
the food was fantastic.
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I mean, it was almost
all made from scratch.
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The mother there was
making handmade pasta,
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all sauces and
herbs from the farm,
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they grew their own wheat.
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I think we're ready to go.
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They had their own olive trees.
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They pressed their
own olives for olive oil,
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it was just really
an amazing introduction
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to vegetarian living so yeah.
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So did you start feeling
better or you didn't notice?
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I did. You didn't?
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Within, no, I did,
within two weeks I noticed
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my energy levels.
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Of course, I was into
some drug usage and so forth
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but I had stopped
all that on this farm
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and within two
weeks of, you know,
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stopping to smoke pot
and so forth and eating good
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and exercising on the
farm my whole body just became,
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you know, way more,
I had way more energy.
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I thought my
mind was much clearer.
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So when I was hearing
the life of Christ taught,
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every morning we
had a little devotion
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and they would talk
about the life of Christ.
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It really struck me in
a way it never did before.
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And I've noticed
that in my life times
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that I was taking
care more of my health.
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I tend to hear
more the voice of God.
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I would agree with that.
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And this is what we've seen
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and why we think
it's so important.
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And I think
that's what's really neat
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because I know we're
going to touch on this
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a little bit
more but you know that
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your own personal testimony
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about what if we
call the health message
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or health
evangelism in our own lives,
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then we can speak
that to somebody else.
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So it makes a
tremendous impact that way.
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Absolutely, and that's
how we want to empower people
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to take better
care of themselves,
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educate them on
the health message,
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show them how to
eat better, how to cook,
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understand about
nutrition and disease,
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and then when they're benefited,
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they'll have
something to share with others.
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And we see this
is how Jesus worked,
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He worked healing.
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In fact if you look
through the gospels you see
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He spent more of His
time healing the sick
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than just preaching and teaching
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even though He
was the best preacher
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and the best teacher
obviously the world has ever had
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but His job wasn't
just to heal people
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and He didn't heal
people by the masses.
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He healed them one by one.
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He'd spend time
individually with them
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because He wanted to show
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the character of
God's love to them,
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not just be a talker,
right, not just tell them
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that God is a God of love,
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He showed them that
God was the God of love,
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and when you're
involved helping people
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in practical ways,
they see the gospel.
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Ellen White says
that the health message
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is the right arm of the gospel.
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It's the pioneer
work of the gospel.
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She says, it is
the gospel practiced.
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And so, this is a new
way we want to show people
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of spreading the
gospel through helping people
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and letting our light
shine like the scripture
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that we read, you know.
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You know, the way He said,
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your light shines is
through your good works,
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right, people see,
they won't see your faith
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unless they see it
active in helping them so.
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So you came into
the church really
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through the health message.
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Health message
was the first thing
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that brought you in
and your mind was open
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and clear and receptive
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to the truth in the Word of God,
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then you were
baptized here in the States,
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you spent those
seven years at Wildwood
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and then now the Lord
is putting on your heart,
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and you said Cleveland,
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Charles Cleveland's
heart to begin LIGHT.
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So tell us about
the origin of that
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and the beginning of LIGHT?
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So we started with a
couple of pilot projects.
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One was a mission
school because to train...
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Our idea was that people
need to have availability
00:19:13.82\00:19:17.02
for training in their
country and in their language.
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And so we started saying,
00:19:19.59\00:19:21.19
by thinking we
need to deploy teams
00:19:21.22\00:19:22.76
to different
countries and run field courses
00:19:22.79\00:19:24.89
in their country
00:19:24.93\00:19:26.26
because you can't
expect people to fly,
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you know, across
the world to places
00:19:28.06\00:19:30.63
like Wildwood for
training, they need to be,
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we can train them by the
thousands in their country.
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Yes.
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We should probably
explain because some people
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don't even know
what Wildwood is.
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It's not like a
piece of wood as wildwood,
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all kinds of any wood.
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Yeah, it's actually not so wild,
00:19:42.34\00:19:43.68
but Wildwood Lifestyle
Center is a 600 acre property
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outside of
Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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It's one of the longest
running supporting ministries
00:19:48.92\00:19:50.85
in the Adventist denomination.
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We just
celebrated our 75th year.
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Is it really 75 years?
75 years, that's incredible.
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And so it's a thriving ministry,
00:19:56.99\00:19:58.59
it's an outpost to Chattanooga.
00:19:58.63\00:20:00.90
We have a health food store.
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We have an organic farm,
an active lifestyle center
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with a waiting list for
guests to come in there.
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And you have a training school.
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And there we have
a training school.
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The Center of Health Evangelism
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and LIGHT really was birthed
out of that school, okay.
00:20:12.21\00:20:15.91
You know, we can't
just have the school here,
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we need the health
school start around the world.
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So we built another
office right next door.
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I've got a picture of it here.
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Okay. Maybe we could show.
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So this is our LIGHT
office, our global headquarters
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and just want to also point out
my wife first of all, Dannie,
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she is such a huge blessed to me
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and our little daughter Laila.
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She is cute.
That's our first family.
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There you are
with elder Ted Wilson.
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Yeah, Elder Ted and his
wife Nancy visited us this year
00:20:37.73\00:20:41.44
and it was a huge
encouragement to us.
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Elder Mark Finley
dedicated our office
00:20:43.37\00:20:45.61
when we first began in 2008
00:20:45.64\00:20:48.24
and now to have Ted
Wilson come in and inspire us.
00:20:48.28\00:20:49.84
And he is the
General Conference president
00:20:49.88\00:20:51.78
of Seventh-day Adventist.
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Yes, he's a huge support.
00:20:53.18\00:20:54.52
He made a
promotional video for us.
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The whole health department
from the General Conference
00:20:56.12\00:20:57.82
has been
supportive of our project
00:20:57.85\00:20:59.85
and by God's blessing,
well, what we've compiled,
00:20:59.89\00:21:03.02
what our idea was
00:21:03.06\00:21:04.99
to spread
training around the world.
00:21:05.03\00:21:07.16
We thought we
need to make training
00:21:07.20\00:21:08.53
a little bit more
concise and simple,
00:21:08.56\00:21:10.40
not just a long
six month course.
00:21:10.43\00:21:13.17
So we started with a
couple of field courses
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in the beginning project courses
00:21:15.40\00:21:16.74
that were six months
long and that worked,
00:21:16.77\00:21:18.94
but it's a little
long and it's hard
00:21:18.97\00:21:20.98
to get the ball
rolling doing this.
00:21:21.01\00:21:23.11
So we decided to
make a one month course
00:21:23.14\00:21:24.98
as an introductory course.
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And so it took us several years,
00:21:26.78\00:21:28.55
but I've got a
copy of our manual here.
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This is a 350 page manual
00:21:30.89\00:21:33.39
called the
Essentials of Health Evangelism.
00:21:33.42\00:21:35.86
And so in here
you're gonna study
00:21:35.89\00:21:37.43
the eight laws of
health, natural remedies,
00:21:37.46\00:21:40.60
nutrition, lifestyle diseases,
00:21:40.63\00:21:42.83
how to prevent
disease with right lifestyle,
00:21:42.86\00:21:45.47
hydrotherapy, massage and
also a lot of Bible classes
00:21:45.50\00:21:48.60
because we want
to train missionaries
00:21:48.64\00:21:51.11
that are able to help people
physically and spiritually.
00:21:51.14\00:21:54.28
So we have classes on
soul winning, evangelism,
00:21:54.31\00:21:56.95
or how to have a
successful Christian life,
00:21:56.98\00:21:58.65
we teach the
Three Angles' Message
00:21:58.68\00:22:00.38
and the prophecies of Daniel
to give a sense of the times
00:22:00.42\00:22:03.99
that we're
living in and the work
00:22:04.02\00:22:05.42
that needs to be done now.
00:22:05.45\00:22:06.99
So this manual we
have trained in a...
00:22:07.02\00:22:10.29
We teach it in a 125
hour intensive course.
00:22:10.33\00:22:13.56
We can do this in one month.
00:22:13.60\00:22:15.33
All right. It's pretty intense.
00:22:15.36\00:22:16.70
Can I take a
look? Yeah, yeah sure.
00:22:16.73\00:22:18.57
So this is what's used
for your one month course?
00:22:18.60\00:22:21.10
Yes, yes. Okay.
00:22:21.14\00:22:22.47
And since 2008 we've
trained over 20, 000 pastors
00:22:22.50\00:22:26.11
and church
members with this training
00:22:26.14\00:22:27.48
in 85 different countries.
00:22:27.51\00:22:28.84
20,000? Over 20,000.
00:22:28.88\00:22:30.21
Well, say that again
because that was quick,
00:22:30.25\00:22:31.58
so, okay, since 2008...
00:22:31.61\00:22:33.18
Since 2008, so in
10 years of period
00:22:33.21\00:22:35.08
we've trained
over 20,000 pastors
00:22:35.12\00:22:37.25
and church members in
85 different countries.
00:22:37.29\00:22:41.02
And this has just been,
it's not all have been us
00:22:41.06\00:22:43.43
or office staff,
it's only about seven
00:22:43.46\00:22:45.29
that we have at
our headquarters,
00:22:45.33\00:22:46.66
but we're supporting
financially 50 missionaries
00:22:46.70\00:22:50.17
that are full time
overseas actively doing courses.
00:22:50.20\00:22:52.97
Even today there are
several courses going on
00:22:53.00\00:22:55.50
as we speak in Brazil,
in Barbados, in Nigeria.
00:22:55.54\00:22:59.47
In Barbados we
have 100 church members
00:22:59.51\00:23:01.84
currently
studying this curriculum.
00:23:01.88\00:23:03.21
Right now? Wow.
00:23:03.24\00:23:04.58
And so it's hard
for me to even keep up
00:23:04.61\00:23:07.18
with how much it's grown.
00:23:07.22\00:23:08.75
Once we develop this curriculum,
00:23:08.78\00:23:10.32
we have it translated
in 12 different languages.
00:23:10.35\00:23:13.19
We have it in Chinese,
Mandarin, we have in Korean,
00:23:13.22\00:23:15.59
Spanish, Portuguese,
French, Russian, Swahili,
00:23:15.62\00:23:20.30
Tamil from India.
00:23:20.33\00:23:22.80
And so people we want them
to be taught in their language.
00:23:22.83\00:23:25.77
The materials need to be
in their language for them
00:23:25.80\00:23:27.97
to really do something with it
00:23:28.00\00:23:29.77
and something they
can walk away with.
00:23:29.80\00:23:31.84
And you used local people
00:23:31.87\00:23:33.71
as far as your
missionaries to teach?
00:23:33.74\00:23:35.41
Yeah, so, you know, if
we want to impact a country
00:23:35.44\00:23:38.45
first we send a team
in to do short trainings,
00:23:38.48\00:23:41.58
these short essential
trainings and then we're looking
00:23:41.62\00:23:44.59
to develop a team and
because we want to really
00:23:44.62\00:23:47.29
start a six
month training school,
00:23:47.32\00:23:49.42
and the six month courses
then train leaders to go out
00:23:49.46\00:23:51.86
and teach more one month courses
00:23:51.89\00:23:53.73
and to spread around.
00:23:53.76\00:23:55.60
And so let me
also add, you know,
00:23:55.63\00:23:58.90
when we work
overseas, we work hand in hand
00:23:58.93\00:24:01.64
with Seventh-day
Adventist church leadership
00:24:01.67\00:24:03.07
and we found that to
be a very important aspect
00:24:03.10\00:24:05.67
of our mission.
00:24:05.71\00:24:07.21
To receive their support?
00:24:07.24\00:24:08.71
Yeah, to receive their support,
00:24:08.74\00:24:10.21
we've just found
greater blessings
00:24:10.25\00:24:12.68
when we're working
hand in hand together.
00:24:12.71\00:24:14.52
There's a
statement from Ellen White
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.89
in the ninth
volume of the Testimony.
00:24:16.92\00:24:18.35
She says, God's work on
earth can never be finished
00:24:18.39\00:24:22.66
until the men and women
00:24:22.69\00:24:24.03
comprising our
church membership rally
00:24:24.06\00:24:26.23
to the work and
unite their efforts
00:24:26.26\00:24:27.93
with those of
ministers and church leaders.
00:24:27.96\00:24:30.83
We take that to
heart, we want to finish
00:24:30.87\00:24:32.53
the work of God on this earth.
00:24:32.57\00:24:33.90
We don't want to work
in an independent way,
00:24:33.94\00:24:35.44
we don't want to
work isolate and,
00:24:35.47\00:24:37.81
or teach people to
work in an isolative way
00:24:37.84\00:24:40.68
whether every man's
doing his own thing.
00:24:40.71\00:24:42.64
We have to work together.
00:24:42.68\00:24:44.01
We need more
unity, so we only work
00:24:44.05\00:24:46.11
when we have a
letter of invitation
00:24:46.15\00:24:47.58
from the local leadership.
00:24:47.62\00:24:49.28
And so that is actually the fact
00:24:49.32\00:24:51.42
that we've done that
way as a lay ministry,
00:24:51.45\00:24:53.02
it has helped
develop confidence,
00:24:53.05\00:24:55.16
where unions, they
see our track record.
00:24:55.19\00:24:58.03
They can get reference from
us from the General Conference
00:24:58.06\00:25:00.83
or from their own division.
00:25:00.86\00:25:02.60
We've worked with over 200
00:25:02.63\00:25:04.03
Seventh-day Adventist
conferences and unions
00:25:04.07\00:25:05.93
where they invite us to
come in and give support
00:25:05.97\00:25:08.50
to their health
ministries department
00:25:08.54\00:25:10.51
which often is it's
a little undermanned
00:25:10.54\00:25:14.04
and under funded often.
00:25:14.08\00:25:15.84
There's just one person
sometimes for a whole union,
00:25:15.88\00:25:18.78
they don't have
much of a budget.
00:25:18.81\00:25:20.52
So we're there to
support these unions to come in
00:25:20.55\00:25:23.12
and do field
courses with churches,
00:25:23.15\00:25:26.62
we teach churches
how to get involved
00:25:26.65\00:25:28.29
in their communities actively
00:25:28.32\00:25:30.36
spreading the
gospel through health.
00:25:30.39\00:25:32.23
Okay, so then we're gonna
put your contact information
00:25:32.26\00:25:35.63
up here toward the
end of the program.
00:25:35.66\00:25:37.70
But if
someone's watching at home
00:25:37.73\00:25:39.13
and they say, boy, that's great.
00:25:39.17\00:25:40.50
I want to be involved.
00:25:40.54\00:25:41.87
I want to get this training.
00:25:41.90\00:25:43.24
Just explain to
me again step by step
00:25:43.27\00:25:44.61
how we become involved
so I'm a member of a church
00:25:44.64\00:25:46.51
and I say, boy, I think my
church wants to be involved,
00:25:46.54\00:25:48.51
let's start with
the local church.
00:25:48.54\00:25:50.55
I'm gonna contact you,
then what happens next?
00:25:50.58\00:25:52.78
So I contact you and say
00:25:52.81\00:25:54.15
our church wants to be involved,
00:25:54.18\00:25:55.52
then what happens?
00:25:55.55\00:25:56.89
From our website
you can request a team
00:25:56.92\00:25:58.25
to come to your church
and do a short training.
00:25:58.29\00:25:59.62
So a team from LIGHT
will come to my church.
00:25:59.65\00:26:02.06
Yes.
00:26:02.09\00:26:03.43
Like a weekend training
is that what you mentor.
00:26:03.46\00:26:04.79
Yeah, we do weekend
00:26:04.83\00:26:06.16
and we do one week
trainings in the US.
00:26:06.19\00:26:07.86
We also do one month courses at
00:26:07.90\00:26:10.30
one of our affiliate
schools, Eden Valley.
00:26:10.33\00:26:12.33
Oh, yes.
00:26:12.37\00:26:14.00
And then, oh, you know,
they could if they wanted
00:26:14.04\00:26:16.50
to come to a place like Wildwood
00:26:16.54\00:26:17.87
and get a six month training,
00:26:17.91\00:26:19.24
that's where our headquarters is
00:26:19.27\00:26:20.61
and if they want
to get more involved
00:26:20.64\00:26:21.98
but in their local church
they could invite us, right.
00:26:22.01\00:26:24.38
Or they could also
take our training online.
00:26:24.41\00:26:26.78
We have video recorded
the entire 125 hour training.
00:26:26.82\00:26:30.99
Okay, that's incredible.
00:26:31.02\00:26:32.39
The hydrotherapy
classes, multiple camera angles,
00:26:32.42\00:26:34.99
there's cooking
classes, it's very, you know,
00:26:35.02\00:26:37.16
it's very interactive.
00:26:37.19\00:26:38.53
Do you have a lot
of people do it online?
00:26:38.56\00:26:39.89
Yeah, we have 700
students currently online.
00:26:39.93\00:26:43.40
And we also recorded
the whole thing in Spanish
00:26:43.43\00:26:46.33
and in Korean and we're
working on Chinese right now.
00:26:46.37\00:26:51.37
And we're halfway finished
with Portuguese and Russian,
00:26:51.41\00:26:54.71
and so French is our
next one that we'll be doing.
00:26:54.74\00:26:57.38
So we found this
to be very effective,
00:26:57.41\00:26:59.01
so people can get
an online training.
00:26:59.05\00:27:00.75
And then sometimes our
teams will come in and follow up
00:27:00.78\00:27:03.18
with a group that's
been studying online
00:27:03.22\00:27:05.49
and give more of
the hands on training
00:27:05.52\00:27:07.56
and experience and so.
00:27:07.59\00:27:09.26
Yeah, people can
invite us to their church,
00:27:09.29\00:27:11.26
or they could
get training online,
00:27:11.29\00:27:12.89
or they could come to
one of our affiliate schools
00:27:12.93\00:27:14.36
for training.
00:27:14.40\00:27:15.73
Now where are your
affiliate schools overseas?
00:27:15.76\00:27:17.30
Because we have
a global audience
00:27:17.33\00:27:18.83
not just here in
the United States.
00:27:18.87\00:27:20.44
So what are some of
the schools overseas?
00:27:20.47\00:27:22.04
Our website shows 50
projects that we're affiliated
00:27:22.07\00:27:25.34
with around the world.
00:27:25.37\00:27:26.71
So every continent we have,
00:27:26.74\00:27:28.68
we have schools
in the Philippines
00:27:28.71\00:27:30.28
and Indonesia.
00:27:30.31\00:27:31.65
We have a new school
starting now in Kazakhstan.
00:27:31.68\00:27:34.05
For those
listening from Kazakhstan,
00:27:34.08\00:27:36.82
Bulgaria, Austria,
Norway, Portugal, Brazil,
00:27:36.85\00:27:41.36
Chile, Bolivia, Honduras,
Dominican Republic Colombia,
00:27:41.39\00:27:49.36
Mexico, and in
the US it's Wildwood,
00:27:49.40\00:27:52.03
Uchee Pines and Eden Valley.
00:27:52.07\00:27:54.74
In Australia's
it's Eastward College.
00:27:54.77\00:27:56.77
In Africa we have a
project in Nigeria and Kenya
00:27:56.81\00:27:59.67
and in South
Africa and so, you know,
00:27:59.71\00:28:02.84
it's just some of those projects
00:28:02.88\00:28:04.25
already were existing
that we affiliated with.
00:28:04.28\00:28:07.75
And we have a team
that develop curriculum
00:28:07.78\00:28:09.32
because we want our curriculum
to be up-to-date medically,
00:28:09.35\00:28:11.89
we wanted to be very
accurate and progressive
00:28:11.92\00:28:14.12
and grow and improving
00:28:14.16\00:28:15.92
but when you're
running a school I've run,
00:28:15.96\00:28:17.33
I've run one of
this mission schools,
00:28:17.36\00:28:18.69
I know it's hard to find
time to do that sort of thing.
00:28:18.73\00:28:20.73
So we have a whole team
that develops this material
00:28:20.76\00:28:23.47
and lets our other
schools use it freely.
00:28:23.50\00:28:25.23
There's no cost of being an
affiliate school with LIGHT.
00:28:25.27\00:28:28.30
But it keeps us
networked together sharing,
00:28:28.34\00:28:30.87
and when the school in Honduras
has a need for a teacher,
00:28:30.91\00:28:34.28
we can put out a request
to our schools in Columbia
00:28:34.31\00:28:37.65
and in Dominican
Republic and Mexico
00:28:37.68\00:28:39.35
and they fill those needs.
00:28:39.38\00:28:40.85
And graduates are constantly
coming out of these schools
00:28:40.88\00:28:42.98
and there's
opportunities everywhere.
00:28:43.02\00:28:44.99
When our students at
Wildwood are finished
00:28:45.02\00:28:46.52
with their
training, they know exactly
00:28:46.55\00:28:47.89
what
opportunities that they have.
00:28:47.92\00:28:49.46
They've been hearing
about LIGHT the whole six months
00:28:49.49\00:28:51.26
and all these opportunities
that they hear about Indonesia,
00:28:51.29\00:28:54.10
they hear about the work
00:28:54.13\00:28:55.46
in that's going
on now in Malawi,
00:28:55.50\00:28:57.20
in Brazil and we have...
00:28:57.23\00:28:59.47
Now there's too many
opportunities for them.
00:28:59.50\00:29:01.17
We need more missionaries,
so we're just trying
00:29:01.20\00:29:03.61
to train more people
because there're so much need.
00:29:03.64\00:29:06.47
And so...
00:29:06.51\00:29:08.68
I'm sure you have
some amazing stories too
00:29:08.71\00:29:10.91
because you know these people
00:29:10.95\00:29:12.28
now are going
out and starting to,
00:29:12.31\00:29:13.82
I mean make
obviously huge impacts
00:29:13.85\00:29:16.08
in the world as a whole.
00:29:16.12\00:29:18.29
Do you have
something you want to share
00:29:18.32\00:29:19.65
from an experience
from somebody or yourself?
00:29:19.69\00:29:22.12
Yeah, well let me just
share a couple stories right now
00:29:22.16\00:29:24.99
from the Middle East
because we tend to think
00:29:25.03\00:29:26.66
that you know the
Muslim world is unreachable
00:29:26.70\00:29:29.20
or we're intimidated, you know,
on how to how to approach them.
00:29:29.23\00:29:33.23
But I want to
share a picture here
00:29:33.27\00:29:35.04
from a school training
that we did in Northern Africa.
00:29:35.07\00:29:38.64
It's kind of a
more of a private thing
00:29:38.67\00:29:40.24
but I can show a picture.
00:29:40.28\00:29:41.61
This is a
health expo in Tunisia,
00:29:41.64\00:29:43.14
our graduates
went and, you know,
00:29:43.18\00:29:45.45
as long as it's
health based you can work.
00:29:45.48\00:29:48.45
Our school in Portugal
moves down into Morocco
00:29:48.48\00:29:51.19
and does medical work, okay.
00:29:51.22\00:29:52.99
Now in Tunisia we've
done these health expos
00:29:53.02\00:29:55.92
and now an exciting thing
that's so happening right now
00:29:55.96\00:29:59.23
is in Bulgaria, it's
because we couldn't figure
00:29:59.26\00:30:01.83
a place within the Middle East
00:30:01.86\00:30:03.83
to actually have
a school building
00:30:03.87\00:30:05.37
and everything is so
complicated with property
00:30:05.40\00:30:07.04
so just across the
Turkey border in Bulgaria
00:30:07.07\00:30:10.41
the Lord gave us a property.
00:30:10.44\00:30:11.77
We have a new
school building there
00:30:11.81\00:30:13.14
and we're training
people in cooperation with Mena,
00:30:13.17\00:30:15.68
Mena is the Middle
East North Africa Union.
00:30:15.71\00:30:19.15
We're training people in
Bulgaria and deploying them
00:30:19.18\00:30:21.72
throughout the Middle East
00:30:21.75\00:30:23.08
to work as medical missionaries.
00:30:23.12\00:30:24.99
And so we just had our
first six month graduation
00:30:25.02\00:30:28.46
at that school in Bulgaria
and all of our graduates
00:30:28.49\00:30:31.06
are committed to
working in the Middle East.
00:30:31.09\00:30:33.90
And so we just
finished our last month,
00:30:33.93\00:30:36.46
our first health expo in Turkey.
00:30:36.50\00:30:38.93
And several lay students
will be staying in Turkey
00:30:38.97\00:30:41.30
throughout the year.
00:30:41.34\00:30:42.67
And so this is a picture
of a health expo in Turkey.
00:30:42.70\00:30:47.68
And in fact this is
the Tunisia picture,
00:30:47.71\00:30:50.25
the very next
one we can just go.
00:30:50.28\00:30:52.51
And what's taking
place here in Tunisia?
00:30:52.55\00:30:54.25
Tunisia, this is
a health expo. Okay.
00:30:54.28\00:30:55.95
And then we
follow it with a stop...
00:30:55.98\00:30:57.32
Open to the public?
00:30:57.35\00:30:58.69
Open to the public,
00:30:58.72\00:31:00.06
we follow it with a
stop smoking seminar.
00:31:00.09\00:31:01.42
We had several Bible
interest by Muslim people
00:31:01.46\00:31:03.66
by just seeing the kind of work
00:31:03.69\00:31:05.03
that we were doing
they were very impressed.
00:31:05.06\00:31:06.56
This is a picture from Turkey.
00:31:06.59\00:31:08.50
We had 200 people
come to this park.
00:31:08.53\00:31:10.57
That looks outside, yeah.
00:31:10.60\00:31:11.93
Yeah, because we
didn't, we wanted to,
00:31:11.97\00:31:14.37
we don't want to
limit with a building.
00:31:14.40\00:31:15.87
We didn't know
how many would come.
00:31:15.90\00:31:17.24
But over 200 people come,
they were extremely interested.
00:31:17.27\00:31:20.18
Never saw
anything like this before.
00:31:20.21\00:31:22.14
How did you advertise?
00:31:22.18\00:31:23.88
Just by flyer... Word of mouth.
00:31:23.91\00:31:25.48
Yeah, word of mouth.
00:31:25.51\00:31:26.85
Yeah, because
it's a health thing
00:31:26.88\00:31:28.22
you can advertise.
00:31:28.25\00:31:29.58
Right. Okay.
00:31:29.62\00:31:30.95
We're not preaching
the gospel, you know,
00:31:30.99\00:31:32.32
outwardly it's
preaching through our actions.
00:31:32.35\00:31:34.19
And it's powerful.
00:31:34.22\00:31:35.56
See that's the entering wedge
00:31:35.59\00:31:36.93
that you were
talking about earlier.
00:31:36.96\00:31:38.39
So we teach the church
to make their reputation
00:31:38.43\00:31:42.70
through health ministries.
00:31:42.73\00:31:44.60
People should
view Adventist life.
00:31:44.63\00:31:46.87
I mean they're so
active with health, right.
00:31:46.90\00:31:48.97
They're great people
00:31:49.00\00:31:50.34
even if they may
not agree necessarily
00:31:50.37\00:31:52.41
with all of our doctrines,
if they could at least say,
00:31:52.44\00:31:55.18
they are the most loving,
00:31:55.21\00:31:56.54
lovable people
that are so helpful
00:31:56.58\00:31:58.41
and have so many
community works that's going on.
00:31:58.45\00:32:00.58
I mean, they're not
going to want to push us away.
00:32:00.62\00:32:03.52
So in Turkey we really
hope that we have good enrolls,
00:32:03.55\00:32:05.89
pray for the work
in Turkey this year.
00:32:05.92\00:32:07.26
That's something really exciting
00:32:07.29\00:32:08.62
and new that we hope will launch
00:32:08.66\00:32:11.26
into a larger initiative
for reaching the Muslim world
00:32:11.29\00:32:13.96
through the health message.
00:32:14.00\00:32:15.36
Yeah, that's a
positive response.
00:32:15.40\00:32:16.73
Two hundred, you
said is that correct,
00:32:16.77\00:32:18.10
came to this park?
00:32:18.13\00:32:19.47
From the beginning.
00:32:19.50\00:32:20.84
Did you get Bible
study interest from that?
00:32:20.87\00:32:22.20
Yes, absolutely.
00:32:22.24\00:32:23.57
So, you know, there
when you're counseling
00:32:23.61\00:32:24.94
and talking with people
you can say that sort of thing,
00:32:24.97\00:32:26.64
you know, as you find openings,
the Holy Spirit leads you.
00:32:26.68\00:32:29.44
In Tunisia, you know,
we could see that these men
00:32:29.48\00:32:31.55
that were
trying to stop smoking,
00:32:31.58\00:32:33.18
they started to ask
more and more questions.
00:32:33.21\00:32:34.92
You know who are you guys
00:32:34.95\00:32:36.28
and they found out we're
Christians, like oh, wow.
00:32:36.32\00:32:37.95
So this is what it is
to be a Christian, right.
00:32:37.99\00:32:39.72
This is their
viewpoint of a Christian
00:32:39.75\00:32:41.49
that a Christian is someone
that helps them that has,
00:32:41.52\00:32:43.53
shows interest
that is full of love
00:32:43.56\00:32:44.89
and compassion and so
they want to know more.
00:32:44.93\00:32:47.70
So they ask, you know,
00:32:47.73\00:32:49.20
how can I learn more about this,
00:32:49.23\00:32:50.57
so, you know, we
study with individuals.
00:32:50.60\00:32:52.53
I was in West Africa in
Guinea and we did a health expo
00:32:52.57\00:32:56.60
as well for a Muslim group
00:32:56.64\00:32:58.31
and a man asked for
Bible studies right there.
00:32:58.34\00:33:00.44
I mean, he was just and
so he came every evening
00:33:00.48\00:33:03.11
while we were
there studying the Bible.
00:33:03.14\00:33:04.48
We were ministering to him
00:33:04.51\00:33:05.85
helping him
stop smoking as well.
00:33:05.88\00:33:07.52
And he ended up getting baptized
00:33:07.55\00:33:09.12
after the one
month that we were there.
00:33:09.15\00:33:11.35
In fact that was
one of the most amazing
00:33:11.39\00:33:13.52
one month schools
I've ever been a part of.
00:33:13.56\00:33:14.96
We had seven
baptisms at the end of that
00:33:14.99\00:33:17.96
Guinea West Africa, yeah,
00:33:17.99\00:33:19.76
and three of them
were Muslim people
00:33:19.79\00:33:22.16
and the rest were Christians
from other denominations
00:33:22.20\00:33:24.70
getting baptized
into the Adventist faith.
00:33:24.73\00:33:26.74
So that's really interestingly,
you said not everyone
00:33:26.77\00:33:29.57
who attends the one
month training school
00:33:29.60\00:33:31.91
is even a Seventh-day Adventist.
00:33:31.94\00:33:33.27
That's right.
00:33:33.31\00:33:34.64
So you could be any denomination
00:33:34.68\00:33:36.01
or not even
Christian, you can be Muslim
00:33:36.04\00:33:38.21
and still want to come in...
00:33:38.25\00:33:39.58
We're not going
to turn anybody away.
00:33:39.61\00:33:41.28
Lord brings people to us.
00:33:41.32\00:33:42.65
In Brazil we just
finished a course in Sao Paolo
00:33:42.68\00:33:45.15
and another three ladies came
00:33:45.19\00:33:47.02
that were not
Seventh-day Adventists,
00:33:47.06\00:33:48.52
they were of other
faiths and but so impressed
00:33:48.56\00:33:51.26
during the month
learning about the gospel
00:33:51.29\00:33:54.36
and the health message
and the Three Angels' message.
00:33:54.40\00:33:57.27
So impressed we gave
additional studies to them
00:33:57.30\00:33:59.60
for the whole month.
00:33:59.63\00:34:00.97
And one of those
ladies was already baptized
00:34:01.00\00:34:02.54
and there was two
that are being worked on,
00:34:02.57\00:34:05.07
so it's really,
it's really exciting.
00:34:05.11\00:34:07.84
The work in Brazil
is growing so fast.
00:34:07.88\00:34:10.71
You know, there's
more Seventh-day Adventists
00:34:10.75\00:34:12.08
in Brazil than
any other country,
00:34:12.11\00:34:13.45
I thought I'll plug Brazil
because my wife is Brazilian.
00:34:13.48\00:34:15.35
All right, very
good. That's a good plug.
00:34:15.38\00:34:16.72
I met my wife at
Wildwood in 2006.
00:34:16.75\00:34:19.65
She came as a student
00:34:19.69\00:34:21.66
and in 2008 she
went back to Brazil.
00:34:21.69\00:34:23.06
I followed her there.
00:34:23.09\00:34:24.43
We did a lot of LIGHT
work in 2008 in Brazil
00:34:24.46\00:34:28.40
and we started
courtship and worked together
00:34:28.43\00:34:31.07
for two years and we
were married in 2010.
00:34:31.10\00:34:34.17
So Brazil, yeah, I just
love being married to someone
00:34:34.20\00:34:38.07
equally dedicated
to missionary work.
00:34:38.11\00:34:40.24
And she's a great teacher.
00:34:40.28\00:34:41.61
So we've gone, she teaches
more of the health classes,
00:34:41.64\00:34:43.45
I teach more of
the Bible classes
00:34:43.48\00:34:45.11
and evangelism, and it's
just great to work as a family.
00:34:45.15\00:34:48.18
So, and I'm thinking about
the flyers that you put up,
00:34:48.22\00:34:50.49
to say in Turkey
or you're mentioning,
00:34:50.52\00:34:52.05
was it East Africa
or was it West Africa?
00:34:52.09\00:34:55.12
Sorry, so you put up
a flyer, how would you,
00:34:55.16\00:34:57.59
because this would be
just for the public, right?
00:34:57.63\00:34:59.39
So what would you put on it?
00:34:59.43\00:35:00.76
What would peak the
interest, you'd say what?
00:35:00.80\00:35:02.13
Stop smoking seminar or
what would you put on there?
00:35:02.16\00:35:04.63
Well, we show what services
we're going to be providing.
00:35:04.67\00:35:06.27
Okay, which would be...?
00:35:06.30\00:35:07.64
We show and we have
blood pressure checks,
00:35:07.67\00:35:09.47
we have lung capacity checks.
00:35:09.50\00:35:12.34
Free of charge?
Yeah, it's all free.
00:35:12.37\00:35:14.01
You know, we
offer body fat analysis,
00:35:14.04\00:35:16.78
nutritional counseling.
00:35:16.81\00:35:18.45
We offer free massage.
00:35:18.48\00:35:20.32
Sometimes we're
giving away food samples
00:35:20.35\00:35:22.05
and how to eat better.
00:35:22.08\00:35:23.42
But usually we're
using the help expos
00:35:23.45\00:35:24.79
to follow into other programs.
00:35:24.82\00:35:26.35
And so you don't, it's
not just a one time event.
00:35:26.39\00:35:28.49
We say if you want to, you know,
00:35:28.52\00:35:30.19
really turn your life
around health wise, you know,
00:35:30.23\00:35:33.43
nutrition is a big part of it.
00:35:33.46\00:35:34.80
So we show them, we promote
then our cooking classes, okay.
00:35:34.83\00:35:39.73
So when you take
a one month course,
00:35:39.77\00:35:41.14
you're learning
how to do these things.
00:35:41.17\00:35:42.50
You're learning how
to run a health expo
00:35:42.54\00:35:43.87
and how to have
follow-up programs ready,
00:35:43.91\00:35:45.67
cooking classes
and health seminars.
00:35:45.71\00:35:48.01
And another thing
that we teach our students
00:35:48.04\00:35:50.21
how to set up a health club.
00:35:50.25\00:35:51.78
A health club is a
local community club.
00:35:51.81\00:35:54.82
It's usually, we shouldn't,
I don't think in most cases
00:35:54.85\00:35:57.72
not you shouldn't
run out of your church
00:35:57.75\00:35:59.55
because you want to,
00:35:59.59\00:36:00.92
you want to
break down prejudice,
00:36:00.96\00:36:02.29
so we have a neutral location
00:36:02.32\00:36:03.83
and it meets
regularly once a month.
00:36:03.86\00:36:06.76
We're teaching health
classes, and healthy recipes,
00:36:06.80\00:36:09.83
and eating together,
and socializing together,
00:36:09.86\00:36:11.77
making friends.
00:36:11.80\00:36:13.13
This has been
very, very effective.
00:36:13.17\00:36:15.30
In Indonesia, a place
we've done a lot of training.
00:36:15.34\00:36:17.71
Our graduates
have worked together.
00:36:17.74\00:36:20.08
And one lady
that we connected with
00:36:20.11\00:36:23.24
an Adventist business lady,
00:36:23.28\00:36:24.61
she bought a health food store
00:36:24.65\00:36:25.98
to promote the health club item.
00:36:26.01\00:36:27.78
We had this health food store.
00:36:27.82\00:36:29.75
This is in Jakarta
and the health club
00:36:29.78\00:36:31.89
was on the second level.
00:36:31.92\00:36:33.25
So all the
customers would get advert,
00:36:33.29\00:36:35.99
they learn about the health club
00:36:36.02\00:36:37.36
from shopping there,
and then on the weekends
00:36:37.39\00:36:39.03
we'd have health
club on the second level
00:36:39.06\00:36:40.60
and our graduates would
be up there teaching classes
00:36:40.63\00:36:42.23
and cooking classes and things.
00:36:42.26\00:36:43.60
We had 80 people
coming every single weekend,
00:36:43.63\00:36:46.17
every weekend on that one.
00:36:46.20\00:36:47.87
It worked so well that
this lady felt impressed
00:36:47.90\00:36:50.91
to buy the third level.
00:36:50.94\00:36:53.01
And so the third
level is a church now.
00:36:53.04\00:36:55.21
So you have the
health food store
00:36:55.24\00:36:56.58
on the first
level, then you have
00:36:56.61\00:36:58.21
the health club on the second,
00:36:58.25\00:36:59.61
and then you have
church on the third level,
00:36:59.65\00:37:00.98
so it's step one, two,
three, that's just amazing
00:37:01.02\00:37:04.05
and it works so well that
this Adventist business lady
00:37:04.09\00:37:08.16
bought a second
one and a third one
00:37:08.19\00:37:10.83
and now a fourth one,
so there's four locations
00:37:10.86\00:37:13.03
in Jakarta four
health food stores,
00:37:13.06\00:37:15.30
four health
clubs, four new churches.
00:37:15.33\00:37:16.67
New four churches. Yeah.
00:37:16.70\00:37:18.40
That's incredible.
00:37:18.43\00:37:19.77
So, yeah, you
have to have manpower
00:37:19.80\00:37:21.14
to do this sort of thing, right.
00:37:21.17\00:37:22.74
People have to be
trained so we offer training.
00:37:22.77\00:37:24.94
We give the
counsel, the ideas, you know,
00:37:24.97\00:37:27.08
materials they can use
00:37:27.11\00:37:28.44
for their health
club and so forth.
00:37:28.48\00:37:30.15
So we have a lot of individuals
obviously that are watching,
00:37:30.18\00:37:33.21
you know, 3ABN they may,
00:37:33.25\00:37:34.58
you know, have a
very small church.
00:37:34.62\00:37:35.95
Okay, so you have one person
and so now they're saying,
00:37:35.98\00:37:38.02
oh, boy, lot of manpower needed,
00:37:38.05\00:37:40.59
I am just one I might
as well not even try it
00:37:40.62\00:37:43.26
because I can
attend the training course
00:37:43.29\00:37:44.63
but then what happens?
00:37:44.66\00:37:45.99
So can you, what about me.
00:37:46.03\00:37:47.36
Okay, I'm here
in an isolated area.
00:37:47.40\00:37:49.10
I say I want to take a
training course online,
00:37:49.13\00:37:51.80
and I may not
have a lot of manpower,
00:37:51.83\00:37:53.74
is there still
something that I can do
00:37:53.77\00:37:55.10
to be involved somehow?
00:37:55.14\00:37:56.47
Well, you know, it's important
to get your church inspired.
00:37:56.50\00:37:59.37
And so I would try to
invite one of our teams
00:37:59.41\00:38:01.84
to your local church...
00:38:01.88\00:38:03.21
To get the church inspired?
00:38:03.24\00:38:04.58
Yeah, let's have a
health emphasis Sabbath, right.
00:38:04.61\00:38:05.95
Someone to speak
about the importance of it.
00:38:05.98\00:38:07.62
I've always seen
that to generate interest.
00:38:07.65\00:38:09.98
People just need to be taught.
00:38:10.02\00:38:11.62
You know it needs
to be spoken about.
00:38:11.65\00:38:13.29
Often it's not, it's just
not dealt with so much, okay.
00:38:13.32\00:38:17.53
So if we can come
in and you just even
00:38:17.56\00:38:19.13
spend a week in there to give
that person a little support.
00:38:19.16\00:38:22.16
In St. Louis I did a training.
00:38:22.20\00:38:24.87
The health and temperance leader
00:38:24.90\00:38:26.23
at the Central St. Louis Church,
00:38:26.27\00:38:28.54
she invited us,
she said, you know,
00:38:28.57\00:38:30.47
"I just need some support.
00:38:30.51\00:38:31.84
Can you come and do a program?"
00:38:31.87\00:38:33.21
So we came and we did a program
00:38:33.24\00:38:34.58
and I promoted
our online school,
00:38:34.61\00:38:36.51
you know, ideal for the
church to sign up as a group
00:38:36.54\00:38:39.01
and they signed up 15 people.
00:38:39.05\00:38:40.88
All 15 went
through the whole training
00:38:40.92\00:38:42.52
and then they got the light.
00:38:42.55\00:38:43.89
You know the lights turned on
00:38:43.92\00:38:45.25
and they just started
doing all sorts of things.
00:38:45.29\00:38:46.62
Boy, I never thought
about that this was the name.
00:38:46.65\00:38:47.99
That's very good,
then they got the light.
00:38:48.02\00:38:49.36
Yes, that's excellent.
00:38:49.39\00:38:50.73
They were doing
health expos, and outreach,
00:38:50.76\00:38:52.43
and cooking
classes in the church,
00:38:52.46\00:38:54.36
it's really improved
the outreach of that church.
00:38:54.40\00:38:56.77
So yeah, you know,
00:38:56.80\00:38:58.53
pastors also need to
get inspired and so...
00:38:58.57\00:39:00.40
Yeah, because they
inspire their congregation.
00:39:00.44\00:39:03.71
In Rio de Janeiro, the union,
the president there realized
00:39:03.74\00:39:07.94
he wants every single
pastor to get this training,
00:39:07.98\00:39:10.91
not the whole one month
but a short one week training.
00:39:10.95\00:39:13.25
So we're doing that now
because when the pastors
00:39:13.28\00:39:15.82
are inspired about
it, it really filters back
00:39:15.85\00:39:18.95
to the church members.
00:39:18.99\00:39:20.42
And so, yeah, I just
want to share a testimony
00:39:20.46\00:39:22.29
from Brazil because I've made
quite a few visits down there
00:39:22.32\00:39:28.36
with my wife and we've
made such a good relationship
00:39:28.40\00:39:31.13
with this Rio de Janeiro Union,
00:39:31.17\00:39:32.50
it's called the Southeast Union,
00:39:32.53\00:39:33.87
it's Rio de Janeiro
and two other states.
00:39:33.90\00:39:35.70
It's one of the
biggest unions in the world.
00:39:35.74\00:39:38.21
Membership wise or land
wise? Yeah, membership wise.
00:39:38.24\00:39:41.04
A quarter of million
people just in that one union.
00:39:41.08\00:39:45.05
And so the union health
director invited us down,
00:39:45.08\00:39:48.05
we did a
training, he got inspired,
00:39:48.08\00:39:49.85
and now we had
a massive meeting,
00:39:49.88\00:39:51.79
I've got a picture here
from one of our schools,
00:39:51.82\00:39:54.89
we have a six month
school and lifestyle center.
00:39:54.92\00:39:56.93
This is a picture
from our lifestyle center.
00:39:56.96\00:39:58.53
Oh, that's beautiful. It is.
00:39:58.56\00:40:00.36
Not too far from Rio de Janeiro
in a state called Minas Gerais.
00:40:00.40\00:40:04.67
So these are all
health directors,
00:40:04.70\00:40:06.43
one of them is the
union health director
00:40:06.47\00:40:08.37
and the nine other ones
are the nine health directors
00:40:08.40\00:40:12.61
from each
conference within the union.
00:40:12.64\00:40:14.84
And so we have a strategy
now, we've already implemented,
00:40:14.88\00:40:16.95
we've done several trainings,
we're doing a training
00:40:16.98\00:40:19.05
in every conference and
then we're sending people
00:40:19.08\00:40:22.12
to our headquarters which is at
00:40:22.15\00:40:23.95
that lifestyle
center called Serra do Cipó.
00:40:23.99\00:40:27.29
It's a great project.
It's only two years old.
00:40:27.32\00:40:29.49
They already have a
full life style program.
00:40:29.52\00:40:31.39
They've got a six
month training course.
00:40:31.43\00:40:33.16
They're doing one month courses
and they've already started
00:40:33.19\00:40:35.56
two other
ministries out from it.
00:40:35.60\00:40:37.67
So the churches are
just getting on fire there.
00:40:37.70\00:40:39.93
That union did 300
health expos last year.
00:40:39.97\00:40:42.47
Three hundred?
Three hundred, yeah.
00:40:42.50\00:40:44.64
That's a lot.
00:40:44.67\00:40:46.01
They're really taking hold of it
00:40:46.04\00:40:47.38
so I'll be down
there next month as well
00:40:47.41\00:40:48.74
to do a major training.
00:40:48.78\00:40:50.71
There's 11 new
ministries starting in that,
00:40:50.75\00:40:52.88
just in that union alone.
00:40:52.91\00:40:54.72
So the church member...
00:40:54.75\00:40:56.08
It's exploding
there as it grows.
00:40:56.12\00:40:57.45
It is. It is. Wow.
00:40:57.49\00:40:58.82
And this is what we need,
00:40:58.85\00:41:00.19
we need total
member involvement.
00:41:00.22\00:41:01.56
I love this initiative from
the North American Division,
00:41:01.59\00:41:03.12
TMI, total member involvement.
00:41:03.16\00:41:04.79
So this is what
LIGHT is all about.
00:41:04.83\00:41:06.33
We're training church members
so that they can get involved
00:41:06.36\00:41:09.46
and there're so
many different ways
00:41:09.50\00:41:10.83
that they can get involved so,
00:41:10.87\00:41:12.37
if they just open
themselves to get some training
00:41:12.40\00:41:15.37
and then get involved.
00:41:15.40\00:41:16.74
If you've taken one
of our courses somewhere,
00:41:16.77\00:41:18.57
you know, we have
plenty of opportunities for you
00:41:18.61\00:41:20.84
in the mission field.
00:41:20.88\00:41:23.14
So maybe those that are
at home that are listening,
00:41:23.18\00:41:25.31
if they took the
online course or if they went
00:41:25.35\00:41:27.45
to one of our
places and took training.
00:41:27.48\00:41:29.35
We have opportunities,
there are so many needs.
00:41:29.38\00:41:31.82
I'm turning down opportunities
every week unfortunately
00:41:31.85\00:41:35.59
because I don't
have the manpower.
00:41:35.62\00:41:36.96
Yeah, we don't
have the manpower.
00:41:36.99\00:41:38.49
There is, suddenly health is,
there's an awakening of health,
00:41:38.53\00:41:41.63
I don't know if
you've noticed this.
00:41:41.66\00:41:43.00
Yes, we have.
00:41:43.03\00:41:44.37
In recent years
there's such a huge awakening.
00:41:44.40\00:41:45.73
Sadly, you know, some
of our areas in the world
00:41:45.77\00:41:48.50
we're a little bit
behind on it, okay.
00:41:48.54\00:41:50.64
So there's a lot of
catch up work to do and...
00:41:50.67\00:41:53.68
Some exciting things I think
00:41:53.71\00:41:55.04
are taking place in
Asia, is that right?
00:41:55.08\00:41:56.41
Yes. Well.
00:41:56.44\00:41:57.78
Yeah, absolutely.
Tell us about Asia?
00:41:57.81\00:41:59.15
So in Korea we have very
little manpower in Korea.
00:41:59.18\00:42:02.98
We don't have an
actual school there,
00:42:03.02\00:42:06.05
but we were
doing short trainings
00:42:06.09\00:42:07.42
as we saw a need
for something more.
00:42:07.46\00:42:09.12
So we decided to
record our entire curriculum
00:42:09.16\00:42:12.43
with Chinese speakers,
00:42:12.46\00:42:13.80
so we flew different
Chinese teachers, physicians,
00:42:13.83\00:42:16.40
pastors to teach
all of these classes,
00:42:16.43\00:42:18.63
put it into our online school.
00:42:18.67\00:42:21.60
Where did they record that?
00:42:21.64\00:42:22.97
We recorded it almost
all of it at Wildwood.
00:42:23.00\00:42:24.34
Okay.
00:42:24.37\00:42:25.71
And so there's a lot of
Koreans in Atlanta as well
00:42:25.74\00:42:27.88
that helped us out.
00:42:27.91\00:42:29.38
But some of them
traveled from quite a distance
00:42:29.41\00:42:32.01
and now we're working
00:42:32.05\00:42:33.38
with the Northern Asia
Pacific division president.
00:42:33.42\00:42:36.32
And he has in fact
given a promo video for us
00:42:36.35\00:42:39.35
and we are signing up
now 3000 Korean Adventists
00:42:39.39\00:42:43.46
through our LIGHT training.
00:42:43.49\00:42:44.83
It's a newly... Three thousand?
00:42:44.86\00:42:46.19
Three thousand,
currently we already have
00:42:46.23\00:42:47.56
450 students registered
and so now we're just,
00:42:47.60\00:42:50.83
just last month
started this initiative
00:42:50.87\00:42:52.83
so they're just gonna be
now bringing in men more.
00:42:52.87\00:42:55.67
By the end of next
year we'll have 3000.
00:42:55.70\00:42:57.34
That's the goal to
train. Are they doing it online?
00:42:57.37\00:42:59.97
It's all online. Yeah.
00:43:00.01\00:43:01.34
And then we have somebody
one person in the country
00:43:01.38\00:43:03.61
that follows up
and travels around
00:43:03.65\00:43:04.98
to the different
churches to speak
00:43:05.01\00:43:06.61
and kind of get them refocused
00:43:06.65\00:43:08.08
on how they can
use this training.
00:43:08.12\00:43:09.98
And so, yeah, it's really,
00:43:10.02\00:43:12.09
there's a picture
actually of the president...
00:43:12.12\00:43:14.89
This is the president
00:43:14.92\00:43:16.26
of the North
Asia Pacific Division.
00:43:16.29\00:43:17.76
So the initiative is
called Tell the world his hands.
00:43:17.79\00:43:20.60
His hands just speaks to
the active involvement, right.
00:43:20.63\00:43:23.20
Many Christ hands.
Yeah, that's exactly.
00:43:23.23\00:43:25.23
We are Christ's hands, right.
00:43:25.27\00:43:27.10
We should let our light shine
so it's working cooperation
00:43:27.14\00:43:29.60
with Wildwood and LIGHT.
00:43:29.64\00:43:31.74
And so that's
exciting and in China as well,
00:43:31.77\00:43:34.21
same division
where we just finished
00:43:34.24\00:43:36.34
our Mandarin
curriculum translation,
00:43:36.38\00:43:39.31
and we're in the
midst of recording
00:43:39.35\00:43:40.72
our online school in
Chinese which is even to me
00:43:40.75\00:43:43.18
more important in a sense
because it's harder to get
00:43:43.22\00:43:46.65
into China to do the
course that we're doing
00:43:46.69\00:43:48.66
because it's religious in nature
00:43:48.69\00:43:51.19
and mainland
China is not that open.
00:43:51.23\00:43:54.30
So with online through
the internet ways, right,
00:43:54.33\00:43:57.60
we can train
Adventists into as missionaries,
00:43:57.63\00:44:02.24
you know, without
having to be physically there.
00:44:02.27\00:44:05.01
So we have different ways that
we're going to be doing that
00:44:05.04\00:44:07.18
and different websites
that we're going to be using
00:44:07.21\00:44:09.58
and shifting around to try to
stay out of any trouble there.
00:44:09.61\00:44:12.88
And we're also
gonna be doing one
00:44:12.91\00:44:16.38
with just health classes
that we're going to promote
00:44:16.42\00:44:18.92
to the public at large
and a marketing company
00:44:18.95\00:44:21.72
that has agreed to promote
00:44:21.76\00:44:23.09
to 80 million
people for us for free.
00:44:23.12\00:44:24.89
This is in
China. In China, yeah.
00:44:24.93\00:44:26.70
Eighty million? Eighty million.
00:44:26.73\00:44:28.10
That he has access to
so it's gonna be blast,
00:44:28.13\00:44:30.00
email blasting and so forth.
00:44:30.03\00:44:32.17
So we want to use that
also as an entering wedge
00:44:32.20\00:44:34.40
to train so they
get kind of interest
00:44:34.44\00:44:35.84
and we've got different ways
00:44:35.87\00:44:37.21
that they'll be able
to find out who we are
00:44:37.24\00:44:38.57
and where to
find more information.
00:44:38.61\00:44:40.08
So in the next year our plans
are to start a mission school
00:44:40.11\00:44:43.68
that's kind of will be,
kind of a covert mission school
00:44:43.71\00:44:46.21
in southern China along
with our lifestyle center,
00:44:46.25\00:44:48.98
and we'll have
the online training
00:44:49.02\00:44:50.55
and just see where the
Lord takes it from there
00:44:50.59\00:44:52.39
but we can't, yeah, we
can't forget the Chinese.
00:44:52.42\00:44:54.19
No. You know, it's amazing.
00:44:54.22\00:44:56.12
I think of Jesus' commission,
you know, in Matthew 28.
00:44:56.16\00:44:58.59
Go ye into the
world and make disciples,
00:44:58.63\00:45:01.66
and teaching, and
preaching, and baptizing.
00:45:01.70\00:45:03.73
And you think
about the church in Acts
00:45:03.77\00:45:05.80
and how it exploded,
from the 120 believers
00:45:05.83\00:45:09.64
in that upper room and
then Peter had that sermon,
00:45:09.67\00:45:12.77
and then you think 3000,
00:45:12.81\00:45:14.41
and then if you read
as you go through Acts,
00:45:14.44\00:45:16.91
the growth is exponential.
00:45:16.95\00:45:18.61
Yes. It just
continues to explode.
00:45:18.65\00:45:21.08
And I'm so excited just
hearing what God is doing
00:45:21.12\00:45:25.32
through the ministry of LIGHT
and the explosion of growth,
00:45:25.35\00:45:28.49
the explosion of
people, coming to be trained
00:45:28.52\00:45:31.59
and then going out.
00:45:31.63\00:45:32.96
I mean 20,000 people
who have been trained
00:45:32.99\00:45:35.06
and you have these
missionaries all over the world
00:45:35.10\00:45:37.67
and what God is doing.
00:45:37.70\00:45:39.03
Praise the Lord for
that. That is incredible.
00:45:39.07\00:45:41.77
It's exciting to see what
they, you throw it out there
00:45:41.80\00:45:44.01
and you teach them how to fish
00:45:44.04\00:45:45.37
and you just see
what they do with it.
00:45:45.41\00:45:47.18
So I've just been amazed to
see testimony after testimony,
00:45:47.21\00:45:49.84
get emails regularly
sharing and all of the impact
00:45:49.88\00:45:52.41
that's made in people's lives.
00:45:52.45\00:45:53.78
Well, I'm excited too
because you don't have
00:45:53.82\00:45:55.15
to be a doctor like a physician.
00:45:55.18\00:45:57.19
You're training
physicians, you know,
00:45:57.22\00:45:58.65
with some of
this evangelism aspect
00:45:58.69\00:46:00.79
but you know I'm not a physician
00:46:00.82\00:46:02.56
but it's something
that I could actually do.
00:46:02.59\00:46:04.19
You know, I could do
the almost say the basics.
00:46:04.23\00:46:06.26
But you don't have
to know how to what,
00:46:06.29\00:46:08.80
we don't have to be a
medical doctor or surgeon.
00:46:08.83\00:46:10.23
We're not diagnosing people.
We're not diagnosing disease.
00:46:10.27\00:46:13.23
We're teaching, it's
mainly health education.
00:46:13.27\00:46:14.77
It is.
00:46:14.80\00:46:16.14
It's nothing, there
is nothing dangerous
00:46:16.17\00:46:17.54
about teaching
someone about drinking water
00:46:17.57\00:46:19.41
and exercising, you know,
00:46:19.44\00:46:20.78
really that if every
Seventh-day Adventist
00:46:20.81\00:46:22.91
knew the simple
eight laws of health,
00:46:22.94\00:46:24.68
apply them to their lives...
00:46:24.71\00:46:26.15
I was just gonna say that.
00:46:26.18\00:46:27.52
There would be such a
bigger light in the world
00:46:27.55\00:46:29.68
because just sharing.
00:46:29.72\00:46:31.05
You know, Ellen
White even talks about it,
00:46:31.09\00:46:32.42
if we were to just bring people
to a country, relaxing setting,
00:46:32.45\00:46:36.06
eating
nutritious food, exercising,
00:46:36.09\00:46:38.59
following the
eight laws of health.
00:46:38.63\00:46:40.10
So nine cases out of ten
00:46:40.13\00:46:41.66
people could
recover from their health.
00:46:41.70\00:46:43.60
Many of the
diseases that we have,
00:46:43.63\00:46:44.97
we bring upon ourselves
by poor lifestyle choices.
00:46:45.00\00:46:48.47
And so, you know, we just have,
00:46:48.50\00:46:50.84
I just hope that more
will take interest in it.
00:46:50.87\00:46:53.38
And it's not so hard and it's,
you know, if we come off with,
00:46:53.41\00:46:57.55
if we come across
in a loving way like
00:46:57.58\00:47:00.75
with the love of
Jesus in our hearts,
00:47:00.78\00:47:02.72
right, not condemning people,
00:47:02.75\00:47:04.09
not in a fanatical
way, not in an extreme way,
00:47:04.12\00:47:06.65
leading people step by step.
00:47:06.69\00:47:08.59
It is just, I have found
it to be the most powerful way
00:47:08.62\00:47:11.99
to reach someone, and to
see it in our lifestyle center,
00:47:12.03\00:47:14.76
people giving
their hearts to God
00:47:14.80\00:47:16.87
as their bodies become healed
00:47:16.90\00:47:18.70
and they're
surrounded by Christian people.
00:47:18.73\00:47:20.74
It just really melts
them and revives them.
00:47:20.77\00:47:23.41
Amen.
00:47:23.44\00:47:24.77
You know, it's neat to me
too because I think about,
00:47:24.81\00:47:26.27
you know, your story,
you know, because, you know,
00:47:26.31\00:47:29.08
you think about where God
00:47:29.11\00:47:30.58
puts you back
in your late teens,
00:47:30.61\00:47:32.21
early 20s and the
impact that you were making
00:47:32.25\00:47:36.08
because if you
reaching out you and Mr...
00:47:36.12\00:47:38.35
Cleveland.
00:47:38.39\00:47:39.72
Cleveland, you
know, number of years ago,
00:47:39.75\00:47:42.06
and now the impact the 20,000
and then that 20,000 who knows
00:47:42.09\00:47:46.39
who they all have reached
00:47:46.43\00:47:47.76
and then those
people reach even more.
00:47:47.80\00:47:49.56
I mean what a
amazing ripple effect,
00:47:49.60\00:47:52.20
and it's neat how
you have let God use you
00:47:52.23\00:47:56.10
and that you are a
vessel that God is pouring
00:47:56.14\00:47:58.87
through to others.
00:47:58.91\00:48:00.81
You probably had no idea
00:48:00.84\00:48:02.88
when you were there
in the butcher shop.
00:48:02.91\00:48:04.25
Yeah.
00:48:04.28\00:48:05.61
You know, how God
would be using you
00:48:05.65\00:48:06.98
in such a powerful way.
00:48:07.02\00:48:08.82
It's encouraging,
isn't it? Well, it's...
00:48:08.85\00:48:10.29
You know, it's
to God be the glory.
00:48:10.32\00:48:12.02
I just wanted to stay
faithful and, you know,
00:48:12.05\00:48:14.72
He gave His life for
me, what can I do for Him?
00:48:14.76\00:48:17.73
So when I was baptized,
00:48:17.76\00:48:19.33
I committed the rest of
my life to be a missionary.
00:48:19.36\00:48:21.56
And I didn't know it would
be so much in health ministries.
00:48:21.60\00:48:25.10
You know, I'm not, it was never
like my main interest of life
00:48:25.13\00:48:27.80
but He directed me
to and that just give me
00:48:27.84\00:48:29.57
such a burden for and a
passion for it so, you know.
00:48:29.60\00:48:32.77
And I just want to
say, ask people at home
00:48:32.81\00:48:34.98
that are listening to this
00:48:35.01\00:48:36.34
that they might
pray for our workers
00:48:36.38\00:48:37.75
that are in the field right now.
00:48:37.78\00:48:39.11
Some of them are, they
meet tremendous challenges.
00:48:39.15\00:48:42.62
We have 50 people
that we're supporting.
00:48:42.65\00:48:44.42
If you couldn't
yourself get involved,
00:48:44.45\00:48:46.25
I'll say that's most
important if everyone could get,
00:48:46.29\00:48:48.86
you know, and
engage themselves in this,
00:48:48.89\00:48:51.16
more workers are needed.
00:48:51.19\00:48:52.63
But we are supporting
over 50 missionaries currently
00:48:52.66\00:48:55.70
and that can grow.
00:48:55.73\00:48:57.30
And so there is some
financial support if,
00:48:57.33\00:48:59.53
but God has been
good to provide for us.
00:48:59.57\00:49:01.84
When we started, you
know, we ran out of money.
00:49:01.87\00:49:04.07
I remember the first
year that we started,
00:49:04.11\00:49:05.44
we ran out of money seven times.
00:49:05.47\00:49:07.31
And so every time we ran
out, I would send out an email
00:49:07.34\00:49:10.71
and said okay, I'm out again.
00:49:10.75\00:49:12.21
You know I had the
attitude, you know,
00:49:12.25\00:49:14.15
I'm not gonna just try to
hold the little that I have.
00:49:14.18\00:49:17.55
You know, use
it for God's glory,
00:49:17.59\00:49:19.12
send it out to the
missionaries and spend it all
00:49:19.15\00:49:22.09
in a conservative
way, in a very careful way
00:49:22.12\00:49:24.23
the best that we can and then
just pray that God would supply
00:49:24.26\00:49:27.23
and He has all these years.
00:49:27.26\00:49:28.90
And since then
we've never, we have not,
00:49:28.93\00:49:32.13
no one has gone hungry
00:49:32.17\00:49:33.57
and we have some
great fantastic directors.
00:49:33.60\00:49:37.14
You know, the way we structured,
00:49:37.17\00:49:38.51
we have divisional
directors over each field,
00:49:38.54\00:49:40.58
and then we have
country directors as well.
00:49:40.61\00:49:42.68
And then we have
project directors,
00:49:42.71\00:49:44.41
so there is different
levels of our administration.
00:49:44.45\00:49:47.55
We have a strong
communication base.
00:49:47.58\00:49:50.65
We want all of our
course to be very consistent.
00:49:50.69\00:49:52.85
When someone
takes a LIGHT course,
00:49:52.89\00:49:54.22
we want it to be the same.
00:49:54.26\00:49:56.73
So anywhere in the world,
it would always be the same
00:49:56.76\00:49:59.06
that you'd have the same manual,
00:49:59.09\00:50:00.43
the same training,
the same education?
00:50:00.46\00:50:02.23
And then, you know, it's amazing
00:50:02.26\00:50:03.80
because when we needed to help
00:50:03.83\00:50:05.70
revive a project
in Dominican Republic,
00:50:05.73\00:50:07.47
we took someone from Germany
00:50:07.50\00:50:09.64
and we took someone from Alabama
00:50:09.67\00:50:11.41
and we took
someone from Honduras
00:50:11.44\00:50:12.91
and they had
never met each other
00:50:12.94\00:50:14.41
and we put them together
00:50:14.44\00:50:15.94
and we sent them
off to this country
00:50:15.98\00:50:18.51
and they were on the same page
00:50:18.55\00:50:19.88
because they had all
had the same training,
00:50:19.91\00:50:21.75
and they were able
to revive that project
00:50:21.78\00:50:24.65
and start a new school there.
00:50:24.69\00:50:26.29
So... Amen.
00:50:26.32\00:50:28.19
And we're gonna go to
your address in just a moment.
00:50:28.22\00:50:30.19
Can you give me 20, 30 seconds,
00:50:30.23\00:50:32.53
what are some of
your goals for the future?
00:50:32.56\00:50:34.83
I know you've
talked to some about China
00:50:34.86\00:50:36.97
and your goals in China,
but some of the other countries,
00:50:37.00\00:50:38.93
what are some of your goals?
00:50:38.97\00:50:40.30
Specifically we have a
goal to see a mission school
00:50:40.34\00:50:42.50
in each of the
112 unions worldwide.
00:50:42.54\00:50:45.57
So one by one we're
just going through them,
00:50:45.61\00:50:48.04
talking to church leaders.
00:50:48.08\00:50:49.41
And, you know, it's great
to see when the church itself
00:50:49.44\00:50:54.15
is even helping
to find properties.
00:50:54.18\00:50:56.05
Sometimes churches...
00:50:56.08\00:50:57.55
The church leaders
are giving us schools
00:50:57.59\00:50:59.85
that are not being used.
00:50:59.89\00:51:01.22
In Indonesia we're
using an elementary school
00:51:01.26\00:51:02.96
that was run down, we
went in and fixed it all up
00:51:02.99\00:51:04.99
and turned it into a school.
00:51:05.03\00:51:06.43
Every single union we
think needs a mission school,
00:51:06.46\00:51:08.80
this is a big project, right.
00:51:08.83\00:51:10.93
So it doesn't, it
hasn't happened overnight
00:51:10.97\00:51:14.17
but we've
already from 20 unions,
00:51:14.20\00:51:16.17
now we're
already up over 50 unions
00:51:16.20\00:51:18.44
that currently
have a mission school,
00:51:18.47\00:51:19.97
so it's more than doubled.
00:51:20.01\00:51:21.34
Amen. Amen.
00:51:21.38\00:51:22.71
The Lord's doing mighty things.
We want to see more languages.
00:51:22.74\00:51:24.38
Amen.
00:51:24.41\00:51:25.75
More languages,
more missionaries
00:51:25.78\00:51:27.12
and spread the
message so that...
00:51:27.15\00:51:29.48
you know, so Jesus
can come home shortly.
00:51:29.52\00:51:30.85
That's wonderful.
Amen, praise the Lord.
00:51:30.89\00:51:32.22
What we want to do
right now is put up
00:51:32.25\00:51:33.59
the contact
information for LIGHT.
00:51:33.62\00:51:35.56
If you want to get involved,
if you want to be trained,
00:51:35.59\00:51:38.46
if you want to be
involved in the online school,
00:51:38.49\00:51:40.93
have the LIGHT
team come to your church
00:51:40.96\00:51:43.26
or your community
00:51:43.30\00:51:44.73
and get involved in
this if you want to support.
00:51:44.77\00:51:46.94
Here is how you
can do just that.
00:51:46.97\00:51:51.11
If you would like
to learn more about
00:51:51.14\00:51:52.87
the Lay Institute for
Global Health training
00:51:52.91\00:51:55.68
or would like to
support their ministry,
00:51:55.71\00:51:57.91
you can do so by
writing to LIGHT,
00:51:57.95\00:52:00.62
PO Box 58,
Wildwood, Georgia 30757.
00:52:00.65\00:52:07.29
That's LIGHT, PO Box 58,
00:52:07.32\00:52:11.43
Wildwood, Georgia 30757.
00:52:11.46\00:52:15.40
You may call them at
area code 706-820-9804.
00:52:15.43\00:52:21.00
Or visit them online
at LightingTheWorld.org.
00:52:21.04\00:52:24.87
That's LightingTheWorld.org.
00:52:24.91\00:52:27.98