Participants: CA Murray (Host), James Reynolds, Donald Lorenson
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017045A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my word 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:09 My name is C.A. Murray, 01:10 and allow me once again to thank you 01:11 for sharing just a little of your day with us, 01:13 to thank you for your love, your prayers, and your support 01:16 of Three Angels Broadcasting Network. 01:18 We thank you for being with us these 32 plus years 01:22 and for the work that God has called us to do together 01:25 as we lift up the mighty and matchless name of Jesus. 01:28 I'm excited today because of our program 01:30 and because of the ministry 01:32 that we have a chance to talk about 01:34 and to highlight. 01:35 I like, what I would call, I guess, a niche ministry. 01:39 This is a ministry that fulfills 01:41 a specific purpose in the world of ministries 01:45 and we got two really great guys here 01:46 to tell us about the ministry 01:48 which is called Ultimate Mission. 01:50 James Reynolds 01:52 who's the President of Ultimate Mission, 01:54 and just a little further way, Board Chairman, 01:56 Donald Lorenson, Lawrenson? 01:58 Lorenson. Lorenson. 01:59 Okay, very good. 02:01 Who is the Board Chairman of Ultimate Mission 02:04 and they are headquartered in Gladstone, Oregon. 02:08 Yes. Gladstone, is near where? 02:10 Portland. Portland, okay. 02:12 Yes, a bedroom city, 02:13 a bedroom community for Portland, okay. 02:14 So in the Portland metro area, very good. 02:16 You both are Northwest guys? Yes. 02:20 From the Oregon area? Right now. 02:26 That could be anything. 02:27 I wanna get, before we talk about the mission 02:29 and go to our music, 02:30 I want to get a little history on both of you. 02:31 And I think I'll start with you, James, 02:33 'cause you got a pretty interesting background, 02:35 born in Adventist home and grew up Adventist? 02:37 Yes. 02:38 Yeah, grew up in Adventist, great Adventist mother, 02:40 and about high school, after high school, 02:43 or during high school I left the church for about 26 years. 02:46 So some wilderness time there. 02:48 Some wilderness time. Yeah. 02:49 It's a pretty heavy wilderness time. 02:51 And so, but, after 26 years there were few things 02:55 that happened in my life that brought me to my knees 02:57 and brought me back to God. 02:59 On your way out, was it kind of a sudden thing, 03:02 did you kind of just drift away, 03:03 did you not have a chance to sort of 03:05 lock on to Christ for yourself, how do you describe that time? 03:08 It was step-by-step, I mean, Satan takes you piece-by-piece. 03:12 Yeah. 03:13 You know, one compromise then another compromise, 03:15 and pretty much, and after a while 03:17 those compromises don't seem like compromises 03:19 and you're just walking down the wrong road. 03:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 03:22 And so that's, you know, that's pretty much what took me 03:24 in the wrong direction, 03:25 it's just doing this, doing that, 03:27 I knew that was wrong, but hey, it's, I feel it's okay now. 03:30 Right, right. 03:31 Right, in case, you kind of desensitize 03:33 to the voice of Holy Spirit. 03:34 Yes. So walk me through the return? 03:38 Well, on the return, I had felt God calling 03:42 in my life several times throughout my life 03:44 because I had that solid Christian foundation 03:46 which is so important to children, 03:48 the Adventist schools 03:50 or just was really what helped me 03:51 have that solid foundation. 03:53 What brought me back was watching my son 03:56 who I hadn't given that foundation to. 03:59 And I watched him start going downhill, 04:02 I used to watch him start to experiment with drugs, 04:04 with alcohol, and get to a point 04:09 where at 15 years old, 04:11 he was leaving the house, he wasn't coming back at night, 04:15 and me and my wife would look at each other and say, 04:17 "You know, did Jimmy make it home last night." 04:20 And then finally, one point, he came into the house 04:25 and his eyes were all big, being high on coke or something 04:29 and he walked in his room and he slammed the door, 04:31 and I said, "This is it, I can't take this anymore." 04:33 And I go in there, 04:34 and I grabbed him by the collar, 04:36 and I put him against the wall, I said, 04:37 "You can't do this anymore." 04:39 And he looked at me and he started hitting 04:41 his own head against the wall saying, 04:44 "You can't hurt me, you can't hurt me." 04:46 At that point, I mean, I just let him down 04:50 and little bit later I went into the bedroom 04:54 and I fell on my knees and I said, 04:56 "God, if You help me save my son, 04:58 I will do anything, I would go anywhere, 05:00 I would do anything you'd like me to do." 05:02 And when you tell God that C.A... 05:05 Yeah, yeah. 05:06 You better have your work boots handy. 05:07 Yeah, very true. 05:09 'Cause, I tell you what, when I told God, 05:10 I would do anything, boy, oh, boy, 05:13 did God really start working in my life. 05:15 And it was shortly after that, that I was baptized 05:18 and God just set it up for me to get involved in one ministry 05:21 after another until finally I got involved in this ministry 05:25 and helped another gentleman to start Ultimate Mission. 05:28 And it has gone from there. 05:31 Praise God. Praise God. 05:33 And God is really, really opened a lot of doors for us. 05:36 Now this is post your motorcycle accident. 05:39 No, my motorcycle accident was when I was 21 years old. 05:42 Oh, okay. 05:43 Yeah, I was 21, I had already left the church, 05:45 I was doing some things, I knew I shouldn't have been doing, 05:49 and I had that motorcycle accident. 05:51 And unfortunately, well, at the time I lost my leg 05:55 above the knee, I broke my femur, 05:57 I had 13 metal plates in my face, 05:59 my jaw had, they had my jaw wired up, 06:01 my nose is completely rebuilt. 06:02 And it scares me looking back at that, C.A., 06:07 because if I would have died that day 06:09 in that motorcycle accident with where I was at with God... 06:12 Yeah, yeah. 06:13 I would've woken up looking at the outside of the walls 06:16 of the New Jerusalem. 06:17 I'm hearing you, yeah. 06:18 And so I look back on that, God saved my life for a reason. 06:22 And but, you know, I was so stubborn, 06:24 I remember laying there at the hospital, 06:26 thinking to myself, you know, 06:27 this is a good time to turn over new leaf. 06:29 This would be a good time to go back to my Adventist route 06:32 but then I thought, you know, what would my friends think? 06:35 What would my friends think? 06:36 What is and I was too stubborn, and I felt like 06:40 I was strong enough to take care of myself. 06:42 Yeah. Yeah. 06:43 And I felt I had to change and become perfect 06:46 before I can come back to church and come back to God. 06:48 I didn't realize I could come back to Him as I was. 06:50 Yes, sir. 06:51 And so it took me until, you know, 06:54 until that happened to my son and the funny part about, 06:57 you know, he was 11 and he was sitting there 07:00 at the fireplace and he said, he told me, he said, 07:02 "Dad, we need to start going to church." 07:05 And I looked at him and I said, "Yeah, I know we should." 07:09 But I didn't. Yeah. 07:10 And it was only four years after that 07:11 that he got into drugs and alcohol. 07:13 So I tell you there is enough guilt. 07:16 Yeah. Yeah. 07:19 But yeah, I had a great experience with God 07:24 that He brought me to my knees and brought me to the point 07:27 where I am, and it is just, I can't, I just can't think 07:32 how it could have gone better once I got. 07:34 Once I finally surrendered, once I gave it up. 07:37 Praise the God, that's the secret, surrender. 07:38 Yeah. 07:40 Donald, your history is little different, 07:42 missionary parents. 07:43 Yeah. 07:45 So you grew up with the accoutrements of Adventism? 07:46 Yeah. Yeah. 07:48 Talk to me a little bit about growing up? 07:49 So, that's a funny story when I was probably a teenager, 07:57 we were at one of my aunt's church, 08:01 I call her my aunt, was actually my dad's aunt. 08:03 And she had written a poem that she was reciting 08:07 in front of the church. 08:09 She was kind of the youngest of and kind of the favorite aunt 08:13 who took care of them when they were kids, 08:15 and she was the one who always said these prayers 08:16 when he went to bed. 08:18 He was a farm boy, grew up in Alberta 08:20 and she read this poem, 08:22 and every day when he would go to bed he would say, 08:25 "Lord, please make me a missionary." 08:27 And so that's what happened, 08:29 he went to Canadian Union College, 08:30 he went to Walla Walla, 08:32 he got a physical therapy degree, 08:35 went to Loma Linda, he got his masters 08:36 in health science, and went over to India. 08:41 Well, he tried to go to India, on the way to the boat, 08:44 a dual wheel came off of the semi trailer 08:48 and hit their car. 08:49 My oldest brother was about a year or so old at that time, 08:54 maybe a year and a half and the car rolled 08:56 and so they had to wait to get to India, 09:00 fractured my brother's head, 09:01 both directions and he was in the coma 09:04 for about nine days. 09:05 Wow. 09:06 My mom broke her back and was in a back brace 09:08 for quite a while and once they recovered from that, 09:11 they went over to India. 09:13 They were there for about three years 09:14 working at different memorial and Newsvine 09:16 and he would go all over India, 09:18 and he would do health programs and he would teach 09:20 physical therapy at the nursing school 09:22 and those kind of things. 09:25 After India, they moved to Jordan 09:29 and they got evacuated out of Jordan 09:32 at the start of the Six-Day War. 09:34 And they were back in the States 09:36 for a short period of time and they went over 09:39 to Heri Mission Hospital in Tanzania. 09:42 Your folk did not take the easy route. 09:44 I know. 09:47 Some tough assignments. 09:49 In Heri, he was working 09:52 on a village health worker training program. 09:54 So they would take people and train them to go out 09:56 in the villages and combat disease in the villages. 09:58 Sure. 10:00 They got a call back from Heri when my mom's father died 10:05 after about three years or so and then went back, I was, 10:10 so I got born there at Heri Mission Hospital 10:13 and we left not too long after I was born, 10:15 we were in Canada for a couple of years 10:17 while he was working up in the Indian reservations 10:19 in the far north. 10:21 And then we went back to Tanzania 10:23 for about four or five years, about maybe four and a half, 10:27 and they were combining a theological seminary 10:32 at Arusha with the village health worker training program. 10:35 So the pastors would go out 10:37 train to do both health ministries 10:39 and regular pastoral work when they went back 10:41 to their villages. 10:43 So they did that for about four years and so I grew up, 10:47 my early time there and when I was a little older, 10:49 he moved back to Loma Linda, he was working on a PhD, 10:53 before he went to Weimar to teach there 10:55 at the health centre at Weimar 10:57 and run the outpatient Newstart program. 11:00 And from there, I kind of went on to college 11:03 and I went nursing directions. 11:07 It is one thing to be born of missionary parents 11:10 and you get, you're born in Tanzania? 11:13 Yeah. 11:15 It's another thing to know the Lord for yourself. 11:18 When did the Lord start to put His hand into your life, 11:20 for you? 11:22 Yeah, you know, it's, I don't have 11:25 one of those experiences where I can say, 11:26 okay, well, on this day this happened. 11:30 It's more kind of an ebb and flow. 11:35 You kind of know the things what the Adventist church 11:38 teaches you to make your life better 11:40 and sometimes you kind of grab, 11:43 hold of those with both hands for a while and then 11:45 you get kind of distracted and then you kind of drift off 11:48 towards into something else and then you say, "Oh, yeah!" 11:51 I should be concentrating on this. 11:53 And so you kind of move back to that, so. 11:57 You know, I can't put my hand on any specific time and say, 12:00 "Okay, this is when I figured out 12:02 what it was all about." 12:03 You know, in some ways I can say, 12:05 I was probably more of a Christian 12:06 as a child than I am now, and in some ways 12:10 I am more of a Christian now than I was then, so... 12:13 Yeah. 12:15 Sometimes when you're doing the work of the Lord, 12:17 it's hard to sit back and be clinical 12:20 in evaluating your own life. 12:22 You know, I know this is right, I am settled in this, 12:24 this is what I do, this is what I am. 12:26 I've no questions about this, 12:28 I'm in, you know, I'm a lifer, I'm in. 12:30 Yeah. 12:32 I'm into Jesus and I'm into His work. 12:34 We want to move into how you guys got together 12:39 and this wonderful ministry that has come out of that. 12:41 I think we'll go to our music just now 12:43 which is coming to us from the Breath of Life Quartet, 12:46 they will be singing "Have Thine Own Way, Lord", 12:48 then we'll come back 12:50 and we'll unpackage this ministry 12:52 and talk about some of the wonderful things 12:54 that they are doing, and that God is doing through them. 13:32 Have Thine own way 13:36 Lord 13:40 Have Thine own way 13:50 Thou art the potter 13:57 I am the clay 14:04 Mold me 14:06 And make me 14:12 After Thy will 14:19 While I am waiting 14:27 Yielded and still 14:35 Have Thine own way 14:40 Lord 14:44 Have Thine own way 14:54 Hold over my being 15:01 Absolute sway 15:08 Filled with 15:09 Thy spirit 15:17 Till all shall see 15:23 Christ only always 15:31 Living in me 15:55 Living 16:03 In me 16:16 Breath of Life Quartet, Have Thine Own Way, 16:18 Lord, well done. 16:19 My guests are James Reynolds and Donald Lawrenson? 16:22 Lorenson? Yeah. 16:24 I like Lawrenson. You can go either way. 16:29 They both have Ultimate Mission. 16:30 And we wanna talk about, we've gotten little history 16:33 on them as individuals. 16:35 I need to ask how you guys met. 16:36 How did you guys come together? 16:38 James knocked on my door. Okay. 16:43 Donald kinda started coming to our church and I'd seen him 16:48 but I hadn't really talked to him. 16:49 But we had to hire a Bible worker 16:51 at the Gladstone Park Church. 16:52 And so I was going door to door with him 16:54 doing Bible worker type stuff 16:56 and I ended up knocking on Donald's door 16:58 and he recognized me from church 16:59 and he invited us in. 17:01 And then I had seen a stethoscope 17:03 hanging there on his bag. 17:05 And I was as running the Healthy Heart program, 17:08 I'm always looking for nurses, 17:09 I'm always looking for medical people, 17:11 and the light went off. 17:13 That's like, oh, okay, and then from then Donald 17:15 and I'd been working very closely together ever since. 17:18 Yeah. 17:19 I mean, he is my main advisor for the Health Program 17:22 since he actually know something about it. 17:25 Yeah. 17:26 You know, I will say this, it seems like 17:29 when you came back to Lord, 17:30 you sort of jumped in with both feet. 17:32 You went into deep and you didn't kind of come in 17:34 to be a couch potato or sort of watch other people, 17:36 you got involved which is the way to do it. 17:38 Yeah, yeah, it is the way to do it because I believe 17:42 if I didn't get involved, I would get bored. 17:44 If I was just sitting in the pews, 17:46 if I was just listening the sermon on Sabbath 17:48 and going home the rest of the week, 17:50 that wouldn't have kept the fire. 17:52 Yeah, yeah. 17:53 And every time I see the Holy Spirit work 17:55 in somebody's life, 17:56 every time I see somebody give their heart to God, 17:59 I mean, that just gives me that energy and that fire 18:01 that I need to keep my Christian faith, 18:03 and my experience working. 18:05 And I want to say one more thing 18:06 on that last we talked about my son. 18:08 My son now is doing fantastic. 18:10 Excellent. So yes, yeah. 18:12 Yeah, that is great. That's good to hear. 18:14 That's fitting. 18:15 So God answered my prayer. Amen. 18:17 Yes, we made a deal and He stuck to His side of it. 18:21 And you're holding up your end of the bargain, 18:22 so it seems at least, yeah, 18:24 and we praise the Lord for that. 18:25 So you met, he's in your house, how did you move into 18:29 because you're doing heart stuff already. 18:30 You are already doing that when you met Donald. 18:33 Yeah, we're working in big stores, 18:37 doing blood pressure checks and health risk assessments. 18:41 But so I asked Donald to help us do that 18:43 and then we started moving into India. 18:47 And so that was the story, I was working with Asian Aid, 18:50 and I had been to India with Asian Aid, 18:52 and I was working trying to get 18:54 some of their children sponsored. 18:55 And Asian Aid is a great organization. 18:57 Oh, yes. 18:58 And Jim Rennie was going to sponsor me 19:01 to go over to India to do an evangelism program. 19:05 And so I had written all the sermons, 19:06 I'd gotten everything done for the evangelism program, 19:09 I was starting to look at it, renting the lorries, 19:12 and building or the tents, and everything you need to do. 19:14 Sure. 19:16 And Jim called me and he says, 19:17 "Well, the government's tightening up over there 19:19 and we feel that we cannot do an evangelism series 19:23 without jeopardizing our orphanages 19:25 and everything else we have going on over there. 19:26 And I thought about it and I thought, 19:28 "Well, Jim, what if we do a health series?" 19:31 Jim thought about it for a second, he says, 19:33 "That would work." 19:34 And so I immediately go to Don. 19:36 It just happened, I find out later 19:38 that Don's dad had worked in India 19:40 doing the same type of stuff 19:42 that we were talking about doing and Don's dad was 19:45 a, had a PhD in Public Health. 19:47 Right. 19:48 And then Don is a Public Health nurse 19:50 and it just, I mean, it just... 19:51 You tell him, a match made in heaven. 19:52 Yeah, you just watch. 19:54 When you see Don... 19:55 It's kind of pre-scripted, yeah. 19:59 Excellent. 20:00 You don't really have to do much 20:02 when God wants to do something done, 20:04 except do what He tells you to do. 20:07 I mean it. 20:08 And it's not like 20:09 I went looking to do anything in India. 20:12 Yeah. 20:13 You know, it's just God says, "Hey, we're gonna do this now." 20:16 And okay, we're doing this. Yeah, yeah. 20:18 He's got the missionary credentials 20:20 from missionary families, kind of in the DNA. 20:22 So it's a perfect, I guess it wasn't too hard of a sale 20:25 to kind of bring you on board. 20:27 No, you know, India was in my dad's career 20:31 it was prior to me being born, 20:33 and so I was kind of curious to see India, 20:35 I've never been there. 20:37 I thought dad might like to go back 20:38 and so I called him up, and said, 20:40 "Hey, Dad, so this is what the deal is, 20:42 you wanna go to India?" 20:44 And he said, "Yeah, sure." 20:47 There's the hard sale, yeah. 20:50 Now had this ministry, Ultimate Mission, 20:52 been form yet or it's kind of in the future? 20:56 Ultimate Mission had been formed before that. 20:58 Okay, okay. Yeah. 21:00 We were formed in 2009. 21:01 I think the trip we took was in 2013. 21:03 Okay. 21:05 I'd been to India twice before I went over 21:07 with Dillon Barney Orchard who are now 21:09 with Gospel Outreach. 21:10 And Dillon Barney Orchard had built 21:12 73 churches in India... 21:14 Wow. 21:15 With their own, you know, money, 21:16 and time, and everything. 21:18 And so I went over with them the first time 21:19 and I got a really good tour of India, 21:21 getting a look at all these little villages and everything. 21:23 And then I went over the next year with Jim Rennie 21:26 and Asian Aid to look at their schools. 21:28 And all this time, I'm scouting, 21:30 I'm trying to figure out, "Okay, what can I do? 21:33 What is the ministry or the mission 21:35 that I can have here? 21:37 How can I have an impact here?" 21:38 So you had it in your heart to really start something 21:41 that you could, sort of, kind of, 21:42 get your hands dirty in and work with. 21:45 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. 21:48 All right, 21:49 so the Ultimate Mission is begun. 21:53 Let's walk through what it is and what it seeks to do? 21:56 Okay, Ultimate Mission is 21:59 an Adventist supporting ministry. 22:01 And the reason we began is we wanted to help 22:05 other Adventists find their mission, 22:07 find their ministry. 22:08 The first thing we did was work with the Oregon Conference 22:10 to do run a lay Bible worker training program. 22:14 And that went really well and then we went on 22:16 to some other projects, I went to India, 22:19 those two trips I told you about, 22:21 and then we got with the Healthy Heart program. 22:24 So it started in 2009, it started to develop, I mean, 22:28 the Healthy Heart program, you had Molly Geddes 22:30 on the show a couple of years ago, 22:32 but she developed cancer and she is the one 22:34 who started the Healthy Heart program. 22:36 She was a nurse, she developed cancer, 22:38 and she conjouled me in taking that ministry overnight, 22:42 didn't want to at first because already had this thing 22:45 with Ultimate Mission, and I was thinking, 22:47 well, I can't do a health ministry 22:48 and this outreach ministry at the same time. 22:50 Yeah. 22:51 But then when they came together, 22:52 I started to realize, you know, what? 22:54 This is the same thing, 22:55 and so we married the programs together. 22:57 So now that is why Ultimate Mission primarily 23:00 right now does health outreach. 23:03 And so then that worked into 23:06 what we're doing in India right now. 23:08 Now you say health outreach, 23:09 so there is a stateside component 23:12 and there is an overseas component. 23:13 Yeah. 23:14 Let's mine the stateside component 23:16 for just a moment. 23:18 You have volunteers that go out and do things, 23:19 walk me through what that part of the ministry is? 23:22 Yeah, so right now one of the biggest health problems 23:28 in US is hypertension. 23:30 If you were to go out any place in America, 23:34 one-third of the people there are pre-hypertensive 23:38 and are gonna have high blood pressure 23:40 in a couple of years. 23:41 One third of the people there already have hypertension 23:44 and they are at increased risk 23:45 for heart attack and an early death. 23:47 Wow. 23:48 So two-thirds of your population 23:50 is affected by hypertension. 23:52 So what we're doing with Healthy Heart 23:55 is we're taking nurses 23:57 who have a real calling to do something, 24:01 that's mostly how nurses are, 24:03 they really want to help people. 24:05 And they are looking around at their community, 24:07 and some of them are getting older and retired, 24:09 they still want to have a hand in helping people out. 24:11 And some of them just feel a need to help 24:13 a little bit more than they are currently doing 24:15 in their lives, 24:17 and so what we do is we set up health assessment screenings. 24:20 We have an agreement with Kroger Foods, 24:22 we can go into Fred Meyer Stores, 24:25 and we just come in with a couple of nurses, 24:27 and a couple of greeters, 24:29 lay people who just want to help people, 24:31 and we'll just ask people if they want to have 24:33 their blood pressure check 24:34 and we'll check their blood pressures 24:36 and we'll talk to them 24:37 about ways to prevent hypertension 24:38 and ways to use just general lifestyle changes 24:42 to manage their hypertension. 24:45 And then we just kind of use that as a bridge program, 24:47 if people are interested in more information, 24:49 they can come to the local church, 24:50 they can get more classes on health. 24:52 We offer programs like Dinner with the Doctor 24:54 where we'll have a doctor come in, 24:57 he'll answer questions, 24:58 he'll maybe give a talk and you can get 25:00 a healthy meal there and get recipes on the food 25:02 that was served. 25:03 Nice. 25:04 And other health programs, you know, 25:07 one of them is we did a lot of our planning 25:08 for Ultimate Mission was we had a mall walking program. 25:11 People get together and then go walk around the mall 25:14 and that's where Jim and I did a lot of our planning 25:16 on what we're gonna do. 25:21 And so we have several churches that are involved, we, 25:24 you know, we'll help with some of the materials they can use, 25:27 with getting them to some of the computerized 25:29 self assessment tools. 25:31 There's a company called Wellsource run by Dr. Don Hall, 25:36 who's invented some great health assessment tools 25:39 to really help people figure out 25:41 what their risk factors are for disease 25:43 and how to manage those. 25:45 So the screenings that you do in the various malls 25:49 and supermarket things, is that done periodically 25:52 on a regular basis? 25:53 How does that function? 25:55 Yeah, most of our churches will run one Sunday a month. 25:57 Okay. 25:58 That's kind of the average 26:00 and they may take it in the couple shifts. 26:01 So people are working, you know, 26:03 two to four hours one Sunday a month, 26:05 that's pretty average. 26:06 Some of our churches might be doing more 26:08 but I think that's about the average 26:10 for the actual screening programs. 26:12 And then, you know, through the regular health ministries 26:15 of the church they'll put on, you know, health programs, 26:18 you know, like... 26:19 So your medical personnel, your nurses, 26:21 they're volunteering their time and the services? 26:23 Yeah, yeah. That is great. 26:25 That is great. 26:26 Do you find or have you found any connection 26:29 as far as the entering wedge of health 26:31 and actually folk ending up coming to the churches? 26:34 Have you seen any pattern 26:35 that this is having that kind of effect? 26:39 You know, one of the difficult things, 26:42 and Jim can talk better than this, 26:43 I've done just a little bit of colporteur work in my life, 26:47 not much but if I'm going door-to-door 26:51 and I'm trying to establish a connection with you, 26:55 that's really, really tough. 26:58 If I meet you in a Fred Meyer Store 27:00 and you sit down in the seat in front of me, 27:02 and I lean forward and I put a blood pressure cuff 27:04 around your arm, and we start talking about 27:07 how you're feeling, I'm right here... 27:09 Yeah. We'll talk about anything. 27:11 Yeah, yeah. 27:13 Sometimes I'm sitting there in a Fred Meyer Store, 27:15 I'm having a conversation for a good half hour 27:17 with somebody I never met. 27:19 You know, 'cause they just open up. 27:21 Yeah, yeah, the other is more of a cold contact 27:24 and one who has tried colporteuring 27:27 or literature evangelism and failed abysmally, 27:31 it's hard. 27:33 First I have a low rejection quotient. 27:36 I don't like having doors slammed on my face. 27:38 But this, they're coming to you and there's a commonality 27:41 because you've gotta service that they want. 27:43 Yeah. 27:44 Well, that in the health risk assessments, 27:46 you're asking 15 different questions 27:48 and we work like, he said, closely with Don Hall, 27:51 Dr. Hall helps us out with this. 27:52 And you're asking 15 questions, now I may have a woman 27:56 in front of me and she is going to tell me 27:59 how much she weighs... 28:00 Yeah. How old she is. 28:02 And if she goes to church, if she visits her kids, 28:06 if she has a husband, 28:07 I'm gonna get some very personal questions. 28:09 Yeah. 28:10 And so with the blood pressure, you walk pass that 28:12 personal space bubble that we all have. 28:15 Agreed, yeah. 28:16 We walk right through that 28:17 and then with the health risk assessment, 28:19 you walk right through that mental bubble. 28:21 Just right now, you're telling me things 28:22 you wouldn't tell your own husband. 28:24 Precisely, yeah. You wouldn't tell him. 28:26 So yeah, the whole thing with health ministry, 28:29 it's not a reaping, it's sowing, 28:34 we're sowing seeds, we're building bonds. 28:37 And that's what Ultimate Mission is about 28:39 is making connections. 28:41 We're making connections with people 28:43 so that eventually we can introduce them 28:46 to the great healer 28:48 'cause that is our ultimate goal. 28:50 Yeah, so obviously 28:51 you're keeping track of the contacts, 28:52 you got names, you got information to kind of, 28:54 to kind of follow up? 28:56 Yeah, when we do health risk assessment, 28:58 we ask them if they like to be on our list of people 29:00 'cause we send out monthly, 29:02 we'll send out newsletter about health, 29:04 and we have health classes and this and that, 29:06 so we put them on our email list. 29:08 And so, yeah, we have contact of anybody 29:11 that would like to be on it. 29:13 Yeah. 29:14 We're not, you know, we're in secular stores 29:15 and stuff so we can't be out really, 29:18 you know, evangelizing and proselytizing 29:21 but we're just, we're helping people 29:23 because we love them. 29:24 And I find that when you just help people 29:27 for the sake of helping people, that's when you become clear. 29:31 People can see through you. 29:33 When people can see through you, 29:35 if you're not there for purpose, 29:36 if you're not there trying to stuff the Bible 29:39 down their throat, 29:40 they can just see you're there because you love them. 29:42 Yeah. 29:43 Then they can see through you, 29:44 that's when they see Jesus Christ. 29:46 Right, and there's time for that, 29:47 I mean, that's gonna come. Yes, absolutely. 29:48 Yeah, but right now, 29:50 you just wanna help for help sake. 29:51 Yes. 29:53 Because that's what good people do. 29:54 Yes. Yeah. 29:55 And we've had a pastor from a nondenominational church 29:57 that started coming and working with the Healthy Heart program, 30:01 and ended up being an Adventist pastor. 30:03 Oh, praise the Lord. 30:04 Praise God. Praise God. 30:06 In the health mission, the health, kind of, 30:09 gospel health is probably the best way to describe it. 30:15 The thing about it is if everybody who is alive 30:18 was in an Adventist church, then you could do 30:22 all your health work there at the Adventist church. 30:25 But as long as there's people 30:27 who are not in an Adventist church, 30:30 you can't afford to have everybody who knows 30:32 about health being in an Adventist church. 30:34 It's okay if you meet some of them in a Fred Meyer 30:37 and they go to another church, take it with them, you know. 30:40 And I think, you know, whether you're talking 30:43 about gospel health, Bible gospel, 30:46 whatever, you know, 30:48 we can do everything with the impetus 30:52 that everyone we touch is gotta come to our church 30:54 and that's fine. 30:56 You know, I've been an Adventist all my life 30:57 'cause it makes my life better. 30:59 Yeah. 31:00 You know, but as long as there's people 31:01 who are out there, I don't so much care 31:04 if they're coming to my church right now, 31:06 they'll come later when they are ready. 31:07 Sure, yeah. 31:09 I'd rather have them out there at their church 31:10 telling people things that I can't tell them 31:12 'cause I'm not there. 31:14 Honestly true. 31:16 Now you said Fred Meyer, I know Kroger, 31:17 Kroger's Midwest and I think west, I'm an east coast guy. 31:20 Yeah. 31:22 All my ministry in New York City, 31:23 we don't have Kroger, and we sure 31:24 don't have Fred Meyer, 31:26 that's the supermarket chain I suspect. 31:27 Right, it's northwest. Yes. 31:29 Well, it's more than supermarket, it, 31:30 what is it you'll find it at Fred Meyer, I mean, 31:33 it's a one stop shopping place. 31:34 Oh, I've been to. 31:36 Yeah, yeah, there they have clothing 31:37 and then they got kind of like, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. 31:39 It's kind of like Walmart's but different. 31:43 Yeah, so you're able to contact them 31:45 and they allow you to come and do this? 31:47 Molly Geddes did this 31:48 and that was a miracle in itself 31:50 because since then I've tried to contact Walmart to see 31:53 if we'd come in through there, and I'm telling you, 31:55 the firewall for you getting into 31:57 some of these places is thick. 31:59 Yeah. 32:00 And so just being able to be in these places 32:04 where we can reach the general public, 32:05 I mean, we'll reach 50 depend on the hours we work, 32:09 we reached 50 to 100 people a day 32:11 that we would personally touch and talk to them. 32:13 And so it's just an amazing way to reaching your community... 32:16 Sure. 32:18 And let your community care, know that you love them. 32:20 I mean, there's a question, 32:21 I can't remember who asked this question 32:23 but if the Adventist church, 32:25 if your church was no longer is, 32:27 if the wind came and blew it away, okay, 32:29 your church is no longer there, would anybody notice? 32:31 Yeah, you know who asked that question? 32:33 I did. That's my question. Was that your question? 32:34 That's my question. Well, praise God. 32:37 That was a great question. That's my question. 32:38 I'm cool, well, then I'm sorry, 32:39 I didn't even know it. Thank you for asking that. 32:42 If the church was no longer there, 32:44 would anybody notice? 32:45 Would anybody care? Right. 32:47 Yeah. 32:48 In Gladstone, people would know. 32:49 We get people come back to us almost every week 32:52 the time we're at Fred Meyer. 32:53 We got people come back to us and say, "You know, what? 32:55 My doctor wanted me to tell you, thank you. 32:58 Great. You probably saved my life. 32:59 Yeah, yeah. 33:01 And people come back almost every time we're there 33:02 and tell us how thankful they are 33:04 that we helped them up because 30% of the people 33:07 we checkup high blood pressure and don't know it. 33:10 I mean, even if you think nowadays 33:11 you can buy the blood pressure checks for 40 bucks. 33:14 Yeah, yeah. But they don't know it. 33:17 Yeah, praise the Lord. 33:18 And well, there was the guy last week, 160 over 110? 33:22 That's up there. Yeah. 33:23 Yeah, that is up there. 33:25 That, first of all must be rewarding 33:27 and even if the fact that every contact 33:31 does not lead to a splash in a baptismal pool. 33:34 The fact that you've sown seeds 33:36 and you've put out goodness out there, 33:38 and when you put goodness out, 33:39 it's gonna come back. 33:41 Somewhere somehow it's gonna come back. 33:42 And the fact that you're able 33:43 to get into a large chain like that 33:46 'cause I know that, particularly in the east coast 33:48 stores are very leery about partnering 33:50 even with something as good as yours, 33:53 if it comes through a religious kind of funnel... 33:55 Right. 33:57 They don't want to commit themselves. 33:59 So the fact that you've gotten 34:00 into two fairly good sized chains 34:02 is a good thing. 34:04 Yeah. 34:05 And, you know, we're straight up with them. 34:06 They know we are Adventist, but we don't proselytize there. 34:09 And we're there because we love people, 34:12 we're there because we want to help people 34:13 and they know that. 34:15 We've been going, you know, here's another miracle, 34:16 we've been doing this since 2007 34:19 in Fred Meyer stores. 34:20 Praise the Lord. 34:21 And we have not had one compliant. 34:23 Amen. 34:24 And there's nothing you can do since 2007 34:27 and not get one complaint. 34:29 There's nothing I could do in a week 34:31 and not get one complaint. 34:33 And so that's a miracle in itself because just, 34:36 you know, militant atheist, the first militant atheist 34:40 that goes to the Fred Meyer management were cut out. 34:42 Yeah. We're done. 34:44 Sure, yeah. 34:45 And so it just to me God has opened this door up 34:48 for us to reach into the communities 34:51 and to talk to people and to help people and just, 34:55 like I say, show them we love them. 34:56 Yeah, yeah. That's the key. 34:58 Yeah, it's a simple and powerful thing. 34:59 Let me ask how big is your stable of practitioners 35:02 that you sort of work with, your nurses and the people 35:05 that go out with you? 35:06 Boy, I don't know, we probably have about 14 churches 35:08 but how many volunteers, I don't know. 35:12 It would be better than a hundred, you know, 35:15 I've never really counted because every church 35:17 had run its own program, and they have 35:21 a stable of volunteers in that program. 35:23 You know, just in our program alone, 35:25 I looked at the nametags the other day of all the people 35:28 that have been and helped us out. 35:29 We probably have 30, 40 nametags for our program. 35:34 So if you wanna multiply that by 13, 14 churches, yeah, 35:40 we're well almost to 200. 35:41 Yeah. 35:43 I mean, you can talk about the success of the program 35:46 in relation to how many people didn't know 35:48 they have hypertension 35:50 and then we're able to do something about it. 35:51 But there's another component, I mean, 35:54 if you're an introvert like me, your favorite thing to do 35:57 is not to walk up to a stranger and say, 35:59 "Hi, would you like your blood pressure checked?" 36:03 And it's sometimes difficult for people 36:06 to get past their own personal bubble 36:09 of being able to talk to somebody else. 36:10 Yeah. 36:12 And I'll tell you after you've been standing 36:13 in Fred Meyer every Sunday for a few months 36:16 and everyone who goes by, you ask him, 36:19 "Hi, you want your blood pressure checked?" 36:21 It goes a long way to helping you overcome 36:23 that reluctance to talk to other people. 36:27 It had not only benefits for your own personal ministry 36:32 with people but sure, it helped me on my career. 36:37 Well, amen. 36:39 And then too you've got a commodity, 36:40 you've got a service that people want, 36:42 so there's area of commonalities, 36:44 it's not like you're trying to sell them something 36:45 or even give them something. 36:47 They are coming to you because you've got something 36:48 that they need and that they want, yeah. 36:52 The amazing part is a lot of people do think that, 36:54 I mean, people are so skeptical 36:56 that they always think there's a hook. 36:58 What's the hook? What are you selling? 37:00 What are you trying to do? 37:01 What are you trying to get me into? 37:02 There's no hook. Yeah, yeah. 37:04 There's no hook. 37:05 We're doing this because we love you. 37:06 There's no hook. 37:08 Yeah, yeah and that's disarming, you know, 37:09 we just care. 37:11 Now you say you got 14 churches, 37:12 I want to kind of walk through this 37:13 because a church comes to you and says, 37:16 we want to be part of your program 37:18 under your umbrella. 37:19 Yeah. 37:21 What do you provide for that church? 37:22 Coordination, how do you work with, 37:24 you've got 14 churches in your group now, 37:26 what do you provide for them? 37:27 So we will, Don and I will go speak at their church, 37:30 we'll help them get the volunteers, 37:32 we will give them the... 37:34 We'll do a training for them, as many trainings as they need. 37:37 We have a startup packet that includes the handouts 37:41 that Dr. Don Hall has written. 37:42 Okay. 37:44 It includes where you can get the programs for the computer, 37:47 for the health risk assessment. 37:49 It includes a list of materials that you need for the program. 37:52 It includes if you're gonna go into Fred Meyer, 37:53 and we're into few different types of stores, 37:55 but if you're gonna go into Fred Meyer's, 37:56 I've gotta go through corporate to get that setup. 37:59 So I get that setup, we're working with GC 38:03 and GC has given us an umbrella insurance policy. 38:08 Okay. So we have insurance. 38:10 So we have a packet that we have put together 38:14 that the people have insurance, they have the material, 38:16 they have the understanding of how they do it. 38:18 And then Don and I will give them the training, 38:21 mostly Don but yeah, we will give them the training 38:23 of what it takes to run this program. 38:26 Well, he's the brain and you're the mouthpiece. 38:27 You know, that kind of thing. 38:29 In fact you should have done it that way. 38:32 He's the motivation, you're the mind, 38:33 somebody's gotta be the PR guy. 38:35 Yeah, yeah... 38:36 'Cause somebody got to do the job, yeah... 38:37 And then we had to decide if we're not successful 38:39 'cause we didn't talk well or we didn't think well. 38:42 And you have set me up for hearing that 38:44 over and over again, I'm sure... 38:47 I don't want to come between a happy unit. 38:49 I apologize. 38:50 But I like the concept. 38:52 Luckily for us, we've got a board 38:53 of about 10 people so... 38:56 Very good. 38:58 For a church, okay, we've got a church, 39:01 we've heard this, we kind of like this idea, 39:03 what am I looking at for a financial outlay, 39:06 is there a large financial outlay 39:07 for the local church? 39:10 Six hundred dollars. 39:12 Okay, so it's not a budget busting kind of thing? 39:14 No, $600 and 300 of that is the computer... 39:18 Well, if you have your own computer and stuff, 39:21 you know, buying computers 39:22 but mostly everybody has a laptop. 39:24 Yeah, yeah. 39:25 But yeah, about $600 39:27 will set you up with everything. 39:28 And that's kind of if you want the deluxe program. 39:31 You know, we've had churches that started out 39:33 with nothing else but a couple of nurses 39:34 with blood pressure cuffs. 39:37 Now are you centered in the northwest per se? 39:41 Are you looking to expand? 39:43 Can you handle expansion 39:44 because the world is gonna hear this program. 39:46 Yeah. 39:48 So you may get a call from Tim Buck Yadda Yadda, 39:50 we want to be part of this. 39:51 Well, you know, we'd have to think about 39:53 flying out to say, you know, 39:55 Texas to do a training program there 39:57 and what would happen there 'cause it hasn't come up yet. 39:59 But the materials are easily sent all over the shoot, 40:02 we have seven, seven, right in Honduras? 40:05 Yeah. 40:07 We have seven churches in Honduras 40:08 that are running basically the same program. 40:09 Wow. 40:11 And I haven't been down to Honduras yet. 40:12 So the package can be easily, you know, 40:15 given to a church that wants to run with it. 40:17 Yeah. 40:18 To go out and do a training program, 40:19 well, you know, the thing about ministry is that 40:25 if you're working for God, 40:26 you don't have to do it all yourself. 40:28 So I'm certain that God has other people 40:30 that can probably walk Into a place 40:31 and do the training program other than us. 40:33 Yeah. 40:35 Having said that though, you are up and running... 40:36 Yeah. 40:37 And you've got a successful track record. 40:39 And I'm sure church who wants to do 40:41 this kind of thing would not be averse 40:43 to sending you a plane ticket because it's worth it, 40:45 you know, to come and do this kind of thing. 40:47 And what I like about this guy is it's user-friendly 40:50 and it doesn't seem to be 40:51 very difficult to start up this. 40:52 It's not like the steep learning curve. 40:54 It's kind of, you know... 40:56 No, it's a simple program. Yeah. 40:57 A simple program 40:58 that has great community results. 41:00 And we're basically just teaching 41:02 the Adventist health message. 41:03 Yeah, yeah. 41:05 The eight laws of health, I mean, 41:06 we are not prescribing medications, 41:08 we are not making diagnosis. 41:09 And matter of fact we can't, we shouldn't. 41:11 Right. 41:13 But what we're doing is just talking about 41:14 healthy lifestyles, so... 41:16 Oh, you know, our crack team here 41:20 has reminded, we got two video rolls. 41:22 And one of them kind of sets up what this program is. 41:25 Let's go to that one just now. 41:27 And thanks, guys, you're making me look good. 41:30 Praise the Lord. 41:31 Let's go to that first roll, 'cause this kind of gives us 41:33 an overview of what you are doing. 41:36 We'll look at that just now. 41:54 Hello, my name is James Reynolds 41:56 and I am the President of Ultimate Mission 41:59 which is the manager for Healthy Heart India, 42:02 and Healthy Heart USA, and Healthy Heart Honduras. 42:09 As I was going through India, 42:10 I was kind of scouting things out. 42:12 And I was looking at how can we do the most 42:15 with what we have. 42:16 With the few people that we've got 42:18 with the small amount of funds that we have, 42:20 how can we make the most happen in this country 42:23 of 1.2 billion people in it. 42:25 God dropped this idea in our lap, 42:28 this idea to hire pastors' wives to become 42:31 and teach them to be medical missionaries 42:33 so that they can help the children 42:35 and the children can then grow up knowing 42:36 how to wash your hands, drink clean water, 42:39 and possibly change the way the whole country is living. 42:44 All right, we're getting ready to go to a village, 42:46 we're gonna do some outreach show. 42:57 And so it's now had come to this, 42:59 we're on our third year, 43:00 we have 70 women that we just trained. 43:02 These women, they're getting a stipend, 43:04 they're getting some education, and they're helping people out, 43:08 and it's just empowering these women. 43:11 A women will do six to eight visits a day, 43:14 five days a week. 43:16 Right now, we are on track this year 43:18 to do over 100, 000 health visits. 43:21 We were told that 43:23 this is the right arm of the ministry 43:24 where no other ministry work, 43:26 where no other type of evangelism will work, 43:29 the health message will work, 43:31 and right now that is being proven true, 43:33 truer than you can ever imagine. 43:41 All right, really good. 43:43 We kind of got stuck stateside 43:46 and then get a chance to talk about 43:47 what you're doing overseas which is a great work. 43:49 Let's walk through that, this idea of training, 43:52 is it pastor's wives or walk me through that, 43:54 that whole thing? 43:56 Well, in India, Bible workers are called, 43:59 well, I call them pastors 44:00 'cause they pastor five churches. 44:02 So to me, although the Indians may call them Bible workers, 44:04 I call them pastors, 44:06 they're pastoring five churches. 44:07 And so we started, we went over there 44:10 and we trained gospel outreach workers at first. 44:13 And these men would go out and do health missionary work 44:18 along with their other stuff that they did. 44:21 But we started to realize after a story 44:23 where a guy trained his wife and he trained her 44:26 out of the book we gave them called, 44:27 "Where There is No Doctor". 44:29 And he trained his wife the same things 44:31 we had trained him. 44:32 She read this book and one day they're coming home 44:35 and they see a group of people on the side of the road 44:37 and they pull over to see what's going on 44:38 with this group of people and there's a lady 44:40 in the middle of the group of people, 44:42 that's in labor having a baby. 44:43 Well, this woman after reading this book went 44:47 and delivered that baby right there in the mud, 44:49 and the dirt, and the rain on the side of the road. 44:51 And Don and I were talking about this 44:53 and some of the other stories coming back, we're thinking, 44:56 we're training the wrong people. 44:57 We need to be training the women, not the men. 45:00 Yeah, yeah. 45:01 And, you know, one of the other problem 45:03 is the gospel outreach workers, 45:04 they don't make a whole lot of money. 45:06 And so it's hard to keep them in churches 45:09 'cause they have to go do other jobs 45:10 in order to keep their family alive. 45:12 Sure. 45:14 So we were trying to figure out, 45:15 well, how do we help that? 45:16 And so when we hired their wives 45:18 to be medical missionaries, 45:19 we pay them 2,000 rupees a month. 45:22 We basically doubled the wage of that pastoral family 45:26 which helps keep the churches open, 45:28 which gives this pastoral family 45:31 food and everything. 45:33 I mean, we get a lot of letters from these ladies telling us 45:35 how this is really helping their family to survive 45:38 which is really touching. 45:40 But so we started training the women and the neat thing, 45:43 the women carry the food, they carry the water. 45:46 The women fix the food, 45:47 the women take care of the children. 45:49 And if the children can learn to wash their hands, 45:52 drink clean water when they're young, 45:54 they can grow up and you can start helping 45:59 that whole society to become cleaner, 46:02 better, healthier. 46:03 Although, it's a wonderful society, 46:04 I don't want to say that wrong but it just, 46:07 The World Health Organization said 46:09 that if you could teach children 46:11 to wash your hands and drink clean water, 46:13 you could save half the children 46:15 that die every day in India. 46:17 Around 4,000 children die under the age of five 46:20 every day in India. 46:21 Wow. 46:23 If you can teach them to wash their hands 46:24 and drink clean water, you could... 46:25 From preventable stuff and then yeah... 46:27 Easy preventable stuff, yes. Yeah, yeah, that's powerful. 46:29 Don, you have some little toys there 46:31 that we want to talk about it 46:33 'cause this works into that idea 46:35 that Jim is talking about. 46:36 Yeah, I don't know 46:38 how all this will show up on TV, it's kind of small. 46:40 This is called a WAPI, 46:42 that's short for Water Pasteurization Indicator. 46:46 So normally, when you're talking about 46:48 purifying water... 46:49 Hold it still and see if they can find it, 46:50 there you go. 46:53 What you do is you boil the water. 46:56 But water is actually safe to drink when it's pasteurized. 47:00 So water will boil somewhere around 200 degrees, 47:03 it'll get pasteurized a little bit over 140. 47:06 And what this is, this little wax here 47:10 is engineered to melt at just a little bit 47:13 over the temperature at which water pasteurizes 47:15 and it's safe to drink. 47:17 So when you're living hand to mouth, 47:19 and you have no real budget, buying gas 47:22 or collecting wood to heat water is a big deal. 47:25 And the less fuel you can use to heat water 47:27 to make it safe to drink the better. 47:30 The other thing that happens is that when you boil water, 47:33 you kind of boil some of the oxygen down a bit 47:35 and it loses some of its flavor. 47:37 So it tastes a lot better to drink 47:39 when it's pasteurized 47:40 and the lot of reason why we do the things 47:42 we do 'cause things tastes good. 47:43 You know, none of us goes to the store 47:46 and eats the chocolate cake 'cause it's good for us. 47:50 And, so people are more likely to drink water 47:52 if it tastes better and they're more likely 47:54 to heat water and make it safe to drink 47:56 if they can spend less money on fuel doing it. 47:59 So this is made of a bullet proof glass, 48:01 this has a lifetime of probably several generations, 48:04 very, very simple. 48:05 That'll be around for a while. Yeah, very, very simple. 48:08 Very cheap. 48:09 This is one of the tools that we use over there quite a bit, 48:13 teach people this one. 48:15 This one is pretty new. 48:16 I'm gonna let Jim talk about this one 48:18 'cause he's really the one who kind of pioneered, 48:20 this is more arsenal. 48:21 You kinda hold it up so they can find it. 48:23 There you go. 48:24 So this is a MadiDrop, it's six ounce ceramic tablet. 48:27 And this six ounce ceramic tablet is infused 48:29 with silver, silver ions. 48:32 So what you do is you put 48:33 two and half gallons of water in a pail, 48:36 in a container of some sort, 48:37 and you drop this in and in 12 to 24 hours 48:40 depending on the contamination of the water, 48:42 the water's safe to drink. 48:43 Wow. 48:44 So one of the things that we find hard is, you know, 48:47 sometimes in India, they don't put 48:49 two and two together as far as the water 48:50 is what's making me sick. 48:52 So they don't put a lot of effort 48:53 into getting clean water. 48:54 What this does is it makes clean water 48:57 without a whole lot of effort. 48:58 Yeah, yeah. 49:00 And it works for six months. Oh, wow. 49:01 It basically can make five gallons of water a day 49:04 for six months, if the water isn't too contaminated, 49:06 if it's really contaminated, these be in 24 hours. 49:09 But, I mean and you can put it on your shelf 49:12 and it will last for a lifetime. 49:14 I mean, this will last for 100 years. 49:15 So this will do it for you. 49:17 Say, okay, we have a bucket of water, 49:20 we put that in today, we drink that water, 49:22 we put that on a shelf, 49:23 can I put it in another bucket of water 49:24 and it will work just as well? 49:26 Yes. For how long? 49:27 Six months. Okay. 49:29 For six months. Yeah. 49:30 Is that an expensive thing? No, it's not that expensive. 49:33 Matter of fact, we get it at a reduced rate 49:37 because we buy them in bulk. 49:38 And we've just been okay to sell them 49:40 to the general public which is great 49:41 because all the money goes 49:43 towards sponsoring our ministry. 49:44 Okay. 49:46 About 14.95, and you can have one those 49:48 and it's insurance policy that if something happened 49:51 and you needed fresh water out of that slew down there, 49:54 you could get the water out of the slew and... 49:57 Work it. Use the MadiDrop. 49:58 Excellent. 50:00 Let's go to the video that talks about this 50:01 'cause our time is getting away from us, 50:02 I know there's couple things more 50:04 I want to touch on. 50:05 So let's take that video just now. 50:31 You got to hold them up. 50:41 Smile. Oh, that's really cool. 50:42 Hello. Hi. 50:45 Hello. Hi. 51:07 Thank you. Thank you. 51:10 Thank you for clean water. 51:12 Thank you! 51:58 That is so neat, that is really, really cool. 52:01 I want to go right now to the address roll. 52:04 Should you want to make contact with Ultimate Mission, 52:07 support that ministry and this is a ministry 52:10 that is very much worth of your support, 52:12 your time, your efforts, your prayers. 52:14 Here's how you can make contact with Ultimate Mission. 52:17 Ultimate Mission is a lay ministry, 52:19 training in project management group. 52:21 Its goal is to help train, organize, reenergize, 52:25 and empower Christians to finish the work 52:27 of spreading the gospel to the world. 52:29 If you would like to find out more 52:30 about Ultimate Mission, 52:32 you can do so by writing to Ultimate Mission, 52:35 19135 Addie Street, Gladstone, Oregon 97027. 52:40 That's Ultimate Mission 52:42 19135 Addie Street, Gladstone, Oregon 97027. 52:48 You can call (503) 891-6040. 52:52 That's (503) 891-6040. 52:55 You can also visit them online at ultimatemission.net. 52:59 That's ultimatemission.net. |
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