3ABN Today

Ouachita Hills College

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Participants: Greg and Jill Morikone (Host), Chris Miller, Jordan Moore, Magda Rodriguez, Sharon Farias

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Program Code: TDY017044A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:29 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people
01:08 Hello, welcome to 3ABN Today. My name is CA Murray.
01:11 And allow me to welcome you
01:13 to a very special 3ABN Today program
01:17 as we talk about some of the work
01:21 that is being done
01:23 at some of our supporting institutions.
01:25 This in particular highlights Ouachita Hills Academy
01:29 and College they are there
01:31 on the same campus in Amity, Arkansas.
01:34 And as I look
01:36 at some of the great work being done
01:37 by our supporting institutions,
01:39 particularly as we respect the training
01:42 and nurture of young people
01:43 Ouachita Hills sort of stands out.
01:46 We have had several young people
01:47 pass through our doors
01:49 that are graduates of Ouachita Hills
01:52 and we found them to be,
01:53 first of all, godly,
01:55 secondly, hard working, dedicated,
01:57 consequated young people.
01:59 So we're very, very pleased that the work
02:01 that this particular institution is doing.
02:04 I was at in ASI Southern Union just some weeks ago
02:08 and a number of the supporting academies
02:10 and colleges were represented there.
02:13 And I listened with interest to some of the work
02:16 that Ouachita Hills were doing, mission trips,
02:20 places that they were sending the young people
02:22 to and the kinds of things that they were doing.
02:25 And I guess one of the reasons why I'm so very, very pleased
02:29 and excited about this particular school
02:32 is because it's my understanding
02:33 that all of their young people at some time
02:36 during their matriculation at the school,
02:38 either high school or in college,
02:42 have to do some literature evangelism work.
02:45 Now when I was in college we had to do same thing.
02:47 And I found out
02:48 that literature evangelistic work
02:49 was not my calling.
02:51 Tried it but I've got two weaknesses,
02:54 one if you give me a story and want to give you the book
02:57 and, of course, if you give a book away
02:58 you got to pay for that book.
03:00 And I guess my rejection tolerance
03:04 is just a little low,
03:05 so I'm not and have never been a good literature evangelist
03:10 or colportor we used to call them,
03:12 we tried it, I tried it several times
03:15 but I guess I would starve to death
03:17 if I had to make my living doing early work.
03:19 Though, I know of people who have put their family
03:21 through school, kids through college,
03:23 all selling books,
03:25 in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
03:26 And my understanding
03:28 is that all of the Ouachita hills students
03:29 have to do that
03:30 so they stand high in my estimation
03:33 because of their ability to go out
03:35 and sell literature for the Lord.
03:38 On today's program we're gonna hear testimonies
03:41 from the young people.
03:43 We got a heads up from Garwin McNeilus
03:44 some time ago that some great things were being done
03:47 on this campus
03:48 and so we sent Jill and Greg Morikone
03:50 out to interview some of the students
03:52 to meet with the principal Magda Rodriguez,
03:55 and to just talk about some of the things
03:57 that they are doing at Ouachita Hills.
04:01 They have on campus a one-day warehouse,
04:03 we're so excited to talk about it
04:05 and to see the work that this one-day
04:07 structure, structures have been doing.
04:10 You got one-day schools, one-day class rooms,
04:12 one-day churches, that building can be adapted
04:15 to any number of uses around the world
04:18 it has been and it's really a godsend
04:21 to have the one-day structure.
04:23 Well, on the campus of Ouachita there is a one-day warehouse
04:27 and it is being used to do some great work for the Lord.
04:30 You're gonna hear some testimonies,
04:32 you're gonna hear some personal testimonies
04:33 from the young people.
04:34 And I'm always thrilled to know
04:36 that our young people are being enthused,
04:38 and dedicated, and consecrated to the work of God.
04:42 They are forming their life habits early on,
04:46 and these life habits will follow them
04:48 throughout their adulthood.
04:50 So Greg and Jill had a chance to talk with young people,
04:53 young students,
04:54 there at Ouachita Hills College.
04:57 And our roll today
05:00 deals specifically with some of the great things
05:02 that they are doing at Ouachita,
05:04 and it is our privilege and pleasure
05:06 to bring this to you at this time.
05:09 Thank you, Pastor CA.
05:11 We are here on the beautiful campus
05:13 of Ouachita Academy and College.
05:16 And if you have never been here to Central Arkansas,
05:20 wow, it's beautiful.
05:21 Especially this time of the year
05:23 the drive to this campus is absolutely gorgeous.
05:26 We're outside as you can tell, you can probably hear the birds
05:29 and maybe even hear a little construction going on
05:30 because we are here to report
05:32 the blessings of what God is doing here
05:35 at the campus of Ouachita Hills Academy
05:38 and especially the college we're focusing on today.
05:40 That's right
05:41 we are and it's such a blessing to be here.
05:42 We have with us,
05:44 we're standing outside the administrative building
05:45 and we have with us Magda Rodriguez
05:47 and you are the president of Ouachita Hills College.
05:51 Yes, it's a pleasure to have both of you here.
05:53 It's a blessing to be here.
05:54 I know Greg and I came to Ouachita hills...
05:58 About 15 years ago maybe.
05:59 At least.
06:01 A lot of changes...
06:02 But it has changed a lot.
06:03 Changed, yes, yes. In a good way.
06:05 Yeah, yes, yes.
06:06 We have grown and,
06:07 you know, the development that is happening,
06:09 it's such a blessing to us.
06:10 It is.
06:12 It's neat to see how God is truly working here,
06:13 you know, and you can
06:14 and we've already had a chance to meet
06:16 some of the students and we got a chance to meet
06:17 some here coming up.
06:18 Yeah.
06:20 But the students are just on fire
06:21 for the Lord Jesus Christ.
06:23 Amen. Amen. And it's about evangelism.
06:24 Amen. Amen.
06:25 And that's really what keeps them here.
06:27 You've just seen how our students
06:28 are turned force by the grace of Good.
06:29 Amen. That's right.
06:31 So tell us about Ouachita Hills College,
06:32 when did it first began
06:33 and what was the impetus for it at the beginning?
06:35 Yes.
06:36 So Ouachita Hills College started in 2003
06:38 and since then we've been growing
06:41 in terms of programs,
06:43 and we have academic programs in theology,
06:45 religion, business and we also have...
06:48 Education.
06:50 ..education programs.
06:51 And what we are looking to do
06:54 is actually following God's models in education.
06:56 So we want our students to develop
06:58 not only intellectually
07:00 but also we want them to develop vocational skills
07:03 and above all we want them to grow spiritually,
07:07 and that they can be actually witness for God
07:09 when they finish their education.
07:11 But they don't only have to wait
07:12 until they finish their education
07:14 while they are students they are involved
07:15 in evangelism constantly.
07:17 So they understand that whatever you do
07:20 at any age in your life, you are here to serve the Lord
07:24 and to share the good news of salvation.
07:26 That's the purpose of education...
07:27 That's the purpose of education.
07:29 To train us not only intellectually
07:30 and academically...
07:31 Very true. Exactly.
07:33 But spiritually in for service in this life
07:34 and in the life to come.
07:35 So let's take a little tour. Yes.
07:37 Yeah, this is gonna be fun because we're gonna be walking
07:38 toward a really new project here
07:41 at Ouachita Hills.
07:42 So when was this building
07:44 put in, we're here in front of the administrative building?
07:45 Actually this building was finished in 2008.
07:50 Okay. Wow.
07:51 Around 2008, and we have been
07:53 just we actually have been working here,
07:56 teaching that's really where the class rooms are.
07:58 Okay. The academy in the college?
08:00 We have also the academy and the college.
08:01 What we do is, during the mornings,
08:03 the academy take classes
08:04 and the college work in vocational skills.
08:06 Okay.
08:08 So they actually work in the ground construction,
08:10 electrical work, auto mechanic.
08:12 Oh, wow.
08:14 And then in the afternoon they just switch so we,
08:16 the college comes and takes the classes
08:18 and use the classrooms,
08:20 and then the academy works
08:21 in the different vocational areas.
08:23 And you have a really nice chapel in here
08:25 'cause we're here earlier this morning
08:26 they were having their chapel program.
08:29 And we also have a recording studio...
08:32 Yes, we saw that.
08:33 That we actually for the use of 3ABN Sabbath school Latino.
08:36 Latino. That's right.
08:37 For 3ABN Latino.
08:39 And we're so blessed
08:40 to partner with you for that, for 3ABN Latino.
08:42 And it helps the students as part of their development.
08:45 The students are the one leading
08:46 that project, no staff is involved.
08:48 Wow.
08:49 So spiritually they have to study the lesson
08:51 and have to prepare for that.
08:53 Do you do media here as well? Do you train them in media?
08:56 We don't have a degree,
08:57 we just have all the vocational,
08:59 we see media as a vocational skill.
09:01 So they learn how to do the recording,
09:04 and also editing,
09:05 and do all the type of work that you guys do in 3ABN.
09:09 And we sent small programs to different organizations
09:11 according to their need.
09:13 Amen.
09:14 You know, one thing I noticed here
09:15 is that this campus is absolutely beautiful.
09:17 You have by God's grace some beautiful buildings.
09:20 We're coming upon one section here
09:21 that's just being constructed,
09:23 on the inside we were in earlier
09:26 there was drywall and saw dust still on the floor.
09:29 What is this that we're just now standing
09:30 in front of?
09:32 Well, you know, we have been growing
09:33 and we need more space for our auditorium
09:37 when we have special events
09:38 and we have during the week we meet for prayer meeting
09:41 and vespers we did not have enough space
09:44 in our current auditorium.
09:45 So God has blessed us with this extension
09:49 to the administration building.
09:51 So the graduation be held here too for...?
09:53 Yeah, in the future.
09:54 In the future, not now? Not now.
09:57 As soon as we finish that's gonna be the place.
09:59 Yes, yes. Okay, okay.
10:01 And looking across the way over here we have,
10:02 this is the academy dorm across the parking lot.
10:04 The academy dorm, yes, yes, we have that.
10:06 The academy has developing this side of the campus
10:09 and then we are heading into this section
10:11 where the college is developing right now.
10:13 Yeah 'cause this concrete that we're walking
10:14 on this beautiful sidewalk is brand new too.
10:16 It's brand new, yes.
10:18 So with this, this stuff doesn't just come free,
10:21 it cost money and so I'll just,
10:24 maybe this is personal
10:25 but I don't think you owe on any of this.
10:27 No, no, we don't.
10:29 That's one of our philosophies that...
10:30 That's tremendous.
10:31 we don't want to get into debt but that doesn't come for free
10:34 but always there's somebody behind it
10:36 and above all is God.
10:38 I know that, I know that the Lord has been blessing us.
10:41 But I know ASI has been a major contributor
10:43 to the expansions
10:45 and we really can see the hand of God
10:48 because this was the time that we needed expansion,
10:50 we needed infrastructure,
10:52 and we didn't know where to start.
10:54 And as I said I see it as a miracle
10:56 how the God has provided for us at this time.
10:59 Amen.
11:00 And I can...
11:02 I don't know what is gonna be our role
11:03 in the future
11:04 but I can see the Lord kind of leading us
11:06 into playing a major role
11:07 in this closing events of not only equipping people
11:10 but be prepared to share the good news.
11:13 And we will be talking about the canvassing program.
11:15 Oh, I know, that's so exciting
11:16 and hearing some of the student's testimonies.
11:18 Exactly, exactly. Oh, yes.
11:19 So that will be excellent.
11:21 So this sidewalk then it's taken us
11:22 to another brand new building.
11:24 Yes, it's taking us to what we call the warehouse.
11:27 And one of the key components
11:32 that we have is the canvassing program
11:34 and canvassing needs literature evangelism
11:36 where the students go during the semester
11:39 and they actually work
11:42 as canvasser selling the books.
11:44 Yeah.
11:45 Religious books...
11:47 Door to door...
11:48 Door to door...
11:49 So that'll be like what, Great Controversy?
11:51 Great Controversy, Desire of Ages,
11:52 and then Christ Object Lessons,
11:54 Steps to Christ and...
11:56 Health books? The health books.
11:58 But their main objective,
12:00 this is something that the students
12:01 take ownership of this.
12:03 They want the Great Controversy be the main book
12:06 and make sure
12:07 that it's out there in every single house
12:09 that they go to.
12:10 And one of the thing is that this canvassing program,
12:14 it helps the student to stay here
12:17 and study here
12:18 and actually graduating with no debt
12:20 or very little then, and that is something
12:23 that at this stage or at this time is something
12:26 that I think all these students are looking for.
12:29 Wow.
12:31 So how does that work then, quickly?
12:32 Well, it works very simple.
12:34 During the summer our students they go canvassing
12:38 and the money that they make in canvassing,
12:40 they bring it to the school and we match
12:43 what they make dollar to dollar up to a $1,000.
12:46 And since our...
12:47 So this is the college?
12:49 So you got the matching or matching claims...
12:50 There's matching claimed for them...
12:51 It's amazing.
12:53 So since the semester basically it's around $5,000.
12:57 So they usually, many of them make more than that
13:02 but some of them may not make it,
13:05 but they always get other type of help.
13:07 But at this point we actually help
13:10 our students to study and teach them
13:12 not to get into debt at the same time.
13:13 Amen. That's great.
13:14 Same philosophy the school...
13:16 I'm sorry for interrupting. For individual.
13:17 The same philosophy the school has
13:19 and you're trying to translate
13:20 that to the individuals and say, okay,
13:22 not to get into debt and try to make it
13:24 through school without debt.
13:25 Yes, exactly.
13:27 Because we believe
13:28 that they should be free to serve the Lord
13:30 wherever the God is calling even if the salary
13:33 or where they're gonna receive as a leader,
13:36 that should be really your guidance,
13:38 you should be where God wants you
13:39 not because you have to work
13:40 and earn a lot of money to pay your debts.
13:42 So that's got to give the students freedom
13:45 and that's the heart, in my opinion,
13:47 that is the heart of,
13:48 you know, our program is that the students
13:50 are able not only to grow spiritually
13:52 but financially they are able to get an education
13:55 without getting into debt.
13:56 So, when, when, when situation
13:58 because the students are blessed,
14:00 because they can provide for the tuition.
14:01 Exactly.
14:03 The school is blessed
14:04 and they are blessed spiritually
14:06 and reaching out and...
14:07 Exactly.
14:08 Impacting their lives and selling
14:10 these religious books,
14:11 and then the people at home who receive the books...
14:13 That's what I'm excited about too.
14:14 They are blessed and ministered too as well.
14:16 Yeah, and one thing that I found it
14:19 as the blessing also is seen
14:21 how they mature emotionally and spiritually
14:24 while they are going to, doing the canvassing work.
14:27 'Cause the canvassing work
14:28 is something that dealing with rejection,
14:31 not everybody wants the book in their house.
14:33 That's right.
14:34 So sometimes you can be in very difficult situations
14:37 and, you know, dogs just, you know, following you
14:40 and things like that, so it's not...
14:42 It makes your faith grow.
14:44 But this is the thing, the relationship with God,
14:47 why are they going door to door?
14:49 It grows because there's only God
14:51 who give them the strength to keep going
14:53 and meets all the rejection and difficulties.
14:56 But then He translates that into their own daily life
14:59 because as you can see their character growing
15:01 in that aspect so.
15:02 Yeah, fantastic.
15:04 So now we're continuing on toward the warehouse,
15:05 which is we're really excited about.
15:07 Yeah. Yes, I'm excited about it.
15:08 So right off to my...
15:09 This would be my left I see some grapes.
15:11 Some gapes, yes.
15:12 So is this part of the agricultural program
15:13 of the school?
15:15 Yes, we do have an agricultural program
15:16 where our students work
15:18 that's part of their vocational training.
15:19 And many of the...
15:21 Most of the food that we eat at the cafeteria
15:23 is actually from our gardens.
15:24 Grown here. Okay. It's grown here.
15:26 We have...
15:27 Do you grow organic? We do grow the organic.
15:28 Oh, wow.
15:30 That's beautiful. There are green houses.
15:31 We have green houses.
15:32 So that in the winter we just plant over there
15:34 and then during the summer we just go out to the garden.
15:36 Wow.
15:37 So right now everybody is really busy.
15:39 Oh, yeah. It's spring time.
15:40 Planting during the spring time.
15:42 So that's really...
15:43 For sure.
15:45 That is something that many of our students...
15:46 We look forward to come here
15:48 to learn more about agriculture.
15:50 Now as far as that the agriculture you have
15:53 but as well as that you have academics.
15:54 Yes.
15:55 And so if someone were to come and they say,
15:57 "Hey, I want to be involved in education,
15:59 or I want to be involved in theology,
16:01 would they be able to go out and further their education?
16:04 Would they able to get jobs?
16:06 And tell me how that works?
16:07 Well, I will share a testimony,
16:09 the reality is we have 17 graduates this May.
16:14 And actually of the 17, only two
16:17 do not have a job already.
16:18 It's just...
16:20 Wow. Wow.
16:21 And they haven't graduated yet.
16:22 They haven't graduated.
16:24 That's amazing. That's a good track record.
16:25 We do have making.
16:26 We have a lot of people calling for our students
16:28 and we just wish we had more students
16:30 that we can just, you know, refer to them but...
16:34 We do have for those that really are looking for a degree
16:38 like a more and more professional medical degree
16:41 and, you know, physical therapy or anything like that.
16:45 We do have an articulation agreement
16:47 with Andrews University
16:49 and we also have an articulation agreement
16:51 with Southwestern.
16:53 And what that give them is that they can come here,
16:56 they can study for two years, and then they can transfer
16:59 and they don't lose the credits.
17:01 They can transfer to those.
17:02 Okay to Andrews or to Southwestern University.
17:03 So in that way they have at least two years
17:05 that they can benefit with an environment like this.
17:09 And then they can just go and finish their education.
17:11 Wow.
17:13 And one things that I forgot to mention in terms of health,
17:16 health based on the council,
17:17 we see health should be part of our educational system.
17:20 I agree.
17:21 And we have been blessed
17:22 because we just finished building a health center.
17:26 I didn't know that.
17:27 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Wow. That's brand new.
17:28 I forgot about it. We didn't know.
17:30 The doctors they moved there a week and a half ago.
17:36 God will allow us is to actually help our students
17:39 to have a lot of experience
17:41 with medical missionary training.
17:43 And that is something that many of our students
17:46 that come here really want.
17:48 And we can teach...
17:50 And we're teaching them hydrotherapy massage,
17:52 all the basic medical missionary skills,
17:56 regardless of what you're studying.
17:58 Wow. So that's excellent in spiritual.
18:00 So every student in the college would have access to learning
18:03 how to do this medical mission training.
18:04 Yes. Wow. Fantastic.
18:05 We actually are requiring them
18:07 because we believe that whoever,
18:09 you know, a teacher, or a pastor
18:10 they all should know about our medical missionary.
18:14 The health message is the right arm of a gospel.
18:15 Arm of the gospel. Arm of the gospel.
18:17 That's right. Exactly.
18:18 It's the opening way as it work
18:20 to open people's hearts and lives more to the gospel.
18:21 Exactly. Exactly.
18:23 So it's...
18:24 And you may hear in the audio a little bit of pounding
18:26 and banging while we're getting closer to this...
18:27 Construction.
18:29 It really can...
18:30 Yeah, new construction of the warehouse.
18:31 Before we go there,
18:33 how many years have you been here
18:34 at Ouachita Hills, you and your husband?
18:35 Yeah. My husband and I, we've been here for 11 years.
18:38 Eleven years. Yes.
18:39 That has been an amazing blessing.
18:41 I was gonna say no regrets. No regrets.
18:43 Many times we just stand outside our house
18:45 and thinking this is so unconventional.
18:48 You know, people out there they will never think
18:50 about doing something like this
18:52 but these have been the best decision
18:54 that we ever made in our lives.
18:55 Amen. Amen.
18:56 Unless the Lord wants out of here,
18:58 He will need to speak very loud to my ears
19:00 because I'm not moving out of here.
19:01 Amen.
19:02 So I can see why do you want to work somewhere else
19:06 when you have the opportunity here to see students coming,
19:09 seen them struggling, see how you can help them,
19:12 and then you can see them graduate
19:14 being so strong spiritually, academically,
19:17 and just being of service for God.
19:19 Why do you want anything else? That's right.
19:20 You know, money will not pay anything for that so.
19:23 The impact that you have made
19:25 and continue to make on young people's lives
19:26 and then those people make impact on other people...
19:28 Exactly.
19:29 And the ripple gets bigger and bigger
19:31 like you can see this pond over here.
19:32 Yes, yes.
19:33 I can see some ripples
19:35 from probably some fish or some frogs.
19:36 That's exactly. Yes, yes.
19:38 But, anyway, yeah, let's head to the warehouse.
19:39 Yeah, warehouse. Yes, okay.
19:40 All right. Let's go.
19:42 Now we're coming up to the warehouse
19:43 and this is the one-day warehouse.
19:45 Yes. It's a one-day warehouse.
19:47 And, you know, we're so thankful at 3ABN
19:50 and I know Ouachita Hills
19:51 and so many other organizations Mr. Garwin McNeilus...
19:54 Oh, what a blessing.
19:55 He and his precious wife Marilee
19:57 I think of the one-day a church.
19:59 Church.
20:00 The one-day school...
20:01 School.
20:03 How many people all over the world have been blessed!
20:04 Amen, amen.
20:05 Have a place to worship, have a place to go to school.
20:08 And now, this is the very first,
20:09 I believe it's the first...
20:10 One-day warehouse. One-day warehouse.
20:12 So we just wanna give a special thanks
20:14 to the McNeilus family.
20:15 Amen, amen. Oh, amen.
20:17 It's such a blessing that you are,
20:18 and I know it's gonna impact so many lives
20:20 here in the community.
20:21 And then, that ripple effect
20:22 as we talked about all over the world.
20:24 All over the world, yes.
20:25 And I know that... And that... Go ahead.
20:26 I know that they are looking to do more of this,
20:28 so some other countries all over the world.
20:30 And that's a neat thing too,
20:32 this warehouse is not just a warehouse
20:33 to just store anything, this is precious book,
20:36 the literature evangelism books.
20:38 So let's go inside. Yeah, excellent.
20:39 And then we'll have some testimonies from the students.
20:41 Yes, excellent. Yeah, let's go in.
20:44 Wow!
20:49 We're now inside of the one-day warehouse
20:52 here at Ouachita Hills College and Academy.
20:55 And this is a beautiful facility.
20:56 Yes, and we have an opportunity to speak with Chris Miller.
21:00 He's our canvassing director.
21:04 Come on over, Chris. Come on over.
21:05 I know you're busy here in the warehouse.
21:07 This is a great facility and it's neat to see
21:11 how God is using this building for His honor,
21:13 and for His glory.
21:14 Amen. So tell us what you do here.
21:15 I know that Miss Magda said what your title is.
21:19 Well, I direct the canvassing programs.
21:21 We organize the programs for the students to go out.
21:23 We set them up, load them up with the books,
21:24 and get a church for them to stay at and work at
21:27 for the next few weeks
21:28 or however long they're staying.
21:29 Now, I know that's what you do currently
21:31 but if we take you back just a little bit,
21:33 you were student here initially, right?
21:35 I was. And what did you take? I studied business.
21:37 So I was student here for about four and half years.
21:40 I studied business and afterwards
21:41 they asked me to stay on.
21:43 I saw God leading and so I decided to stay on.
21:45 Amen, that's wonderful.
21:46 So we're walking up to this building.
21:48 We heard some construction,
21:49 I heard some saws and some banging going on in,
21:51 we're inside the warehouse and it looks finished.
21:53 But I know that they're still doing some finishing touches.
21:55 So tell us what else we have going on here?
21:57 Well, they're working on the dock.
21:58 We have a dock for trucks to come in and unload books.
22:01 You mean, like 18 wheelers or box trucks?
22:03 Exactly.
22:04 We get a lot of book, so we need big trucks.
22:06 Absolutely. So you're still finishing that?
22:08 That's right.
22:09 And I know there's some pretty neat climate control
22:10 in here too.
22:12 Yes, we are in the process of installing
22:13 the climate control system as well.
22:15 Because we are in mid Arkansas. Yes, lot of humidity.
22:17 Central Arkansas and it gets humid.
22:19 We can feel the humidity too.
22:21 So we're standing here by some books,
22:23 the Great Controversy, I see.
22:25 I know we have one here.
22:26 This is a Great Controversy you're talking about.
22:28 One of the books that is done with the Mega Book programs,
22:32 you call it? Mega Book program. Yes.
22:33 And that's one that the students love to promote
22:36 and that's what they set goals to distribute
22:39 as many Great Controversies as possible.
22:42 That's great.
22:43 Tell me how was the construction
22:44 of the warehouse?
22:46 Did the students get involved or what happened?
22:48 Oh, yeah.
22:49 The students got involved we had everybody come out,
22:51 we had t-shirts
22:52 they had the name of the warehouse on it,
22:54 and everybody helped to set it up
22:55 and I think it really made everyone feel connected
22:57 with what we were doing here
22:59 and the work that we're doing in canvassing.
23:01 You know, I have a question
23:02 because we have a warehouse here, why a warehouse?
23:05 I mean, what would be the reason for a warehouse?
23:07 Just I know you can store a lot of books
23:09 but what's the benefit of that?
23:10 And I think we did an estimate I think depending on
23:13 how many books were in a box it can, this one,
23:15 this warehouse will hold maybe well over 150,000 books,
23:17 right, Chris?
23:18 Oh, yeah.
23:20 What would be the reason for warehouse, Chris?
23:21 So the purpose of having so many books
23:23 is to be able to share.
23:25 That's great.
23:26 And so we have all these books
23:28 so that we're able to allow other ministries and people
23:30 that wouldn't be able to get into this kind of work
23:33 because of the pricing
23:34 we're able to give the books to them
23:36 at a much lower cost
23:37 so they're able to get into the work of canvassing
23:39 and follow the model that we have here.
23:41 Exactly. Amen.
23:42 And then, you know, early we talk about the model
23:45 of how the students can, you know,
23:47 get finance their education and the bit.
23:49 Yeah. It's incredible.
23:50 So here what we're looking is to have this warehouse
23:53 is actually one of the tools that we wanna give to churches
23:57 and other educational institutions,
23:59 that they can implement the same model.
24:02 So our vision is not only to distribute books,
24:05 it's really that's one part,
24:07 is also training churches and training schools,
24:11 and how to really function
24:12 with the literature ministry program.
24:15 So this is like a model that you could say
24:18 could be spread abroad for churches,
24:19 and schools and institutions across the country
24:22 and you could save the world, right?
24:24 Exactly, exactly. Amen.
24:25 And that was actually the vision of the warehouse
24:28 because it's more than distribution,
24:30 you know, more reasonable pricing for books.
24:34 It's actually just building the model
24:36 that other institutions can use
24:39 and they can function without getting into debt
24:42 and at the same time they can also be a blessing,
24:44 distributing the gospel message to the world.
24:47 Amen. Wow, praise the Lord.
24:49 So that's one of the reasons that 3ABN came down
24:52 to Ouachita Hills College to do this interview
24:54 because we wanna show you at home what's going on here.
24:58 It's an incredible ministry.
25:00 Magda Rodriguez, you do a wonderful job
25:02 and we so appreciate your leadership of the college here
25:05 and you too as well, Chris.
25:07 But we wanna encourage you to get involved
25:10 and we will put thorough contact information...
25:11 That's right.
25:12 At the end of this program
25:14 because we want you to get involved,
25:15 maybe you want wisdom.
25:16 Exactly.
25:18 Maybe you want to get involved in this literature ministry
25:21 and reaching out to a lost and dying world.
25:23 And we will have also a...
25:26 We have online store,
25:28 where people can actually buy the books online
25:32 and the different ministries
25:33 so you may want to talk a little bit about
25:34 the website.
25:36 In fact, quite a few people ordering online
25:37 there was just the other day we had some people from Canada
25:39 getting books.
25:40 And so it really expands our ability
25:42 to meet the needs of people
25:43 that aren't in our geographical location
25:46 so they can order online at store.ouachitahills.org.
25:50 You can choose where you are
25:51 and we'll ship the books right to you.
25:53 So make sure I understand this correctly,
25:54 so the reason for the warehouse or one of the reasons
25:56 is you can get these books at a big discount
25:59 because there's the volume that you're ordering.
26:01 But then you have let's say another school or church
26:05 that wouldn't order to say 50,000 books or something,
26:07 they may only want 5,000.
26:09 Exactly.
26:10 So you can then extend the discount to them
26:12 is that what you're saying instead of going to the store?
26:13 Exactly. God, that's nice. That's a beautiful plan.
26:16 So they can actually implement the same model
26:19 and this is something that is just very difficult
26:21 for small institutions
26:23 to actually get a pricing like that
26:25 so it makes it difficult for them
26:26 to implement their canvassing program.
26:29 So God has blessed you and then you're turning
26:32 that blessing around to other people.
26:33 Exactly.
26:35 And that's how we see it, this blessing,
26:36 is really we are instruments
26:38 that we have been receiving this blessing
26:40 so we can bless other ministries,
26:42 and other churches, and institutions,
26:43 or individuals.
26:45 There's some families that will like to do canvassing
26:48 during the summer as a family.
26:50 They can order the books here
26:52 and then they can go as a family in canvassing.
26:53 And you give the same discount to a family.
26:55 Yes, yes, yes.
26:56 Like Greg and I were to say,
26:58 we're gonna go out and go canvassing.
26:59 You can get exactly the same.
27:00 We could call you, or go to the website,
27:02 and the store and we could order.
27:03 In store you can order. Exactly.
27:04 So I know we're gonna put up that lower third
27:06 but what is it again
27:07 that gives the address as Ouachita...
27:08 store.ouachitahills.org.
27:11 Okay. Fantastic.
27:12 So I know the amount of years that you spent here, Chris,
27:15 it has to be a tremendous blessing.
27:17 And I know working with the students
27:18 'cause you're in charge of the whole program,
27:20 is that correct?
27:22 Yes. That's right. Yeah.
27:23 Tell me the impact
27:25 that it has made in your life personally.
27:26 Maybe spiritually or something tell us,
27:28 how it has impacted you?
27:29 So I started out as a student here
27:31 and I was a canvasser,
27:32 then I became a leader of the canvassing programs,
27:34 and then director.
27:35 And I think at each stage
27:37 God has been teaching me different things.
27:39 As a canvasser I learned how to meet people
27:40 where they were,
27:42 I learned how to interact
27:43 with a lot of different types of personalities.
27:45 I wasn't a very good people-person,
27:47 I was very, very shy, didn't like to talk,
27:49 didn't like to meet a lot of people.
27:50 It's amazing, I wouldn't guess that now.
27:52 God changes us.
27:54 And especially in the work of canvassing,
27:55 He develops that in us
27:56 because the gospels are social gospel.
27:58 So you need to learn how to talk to people.
27:59 That's true.
28:01 And so He taught me how to meet people
28:02 where they were on
28:03 as I've been able to lead canvassing programs,
28:05 I've seen people grow spiritually,
28:07 I've learned that God is in the habit of doing this work
28:09 just for the people but also for us
28:12 because there's a lot that He can teach us
28:13 when we're able to work with Him.
28:15 Amen. Fantastic.
28:16 What a testimony, it's neat to see
28:18 how God is using you and He's continuing to use you.
28:20 Isn't that encouraging?
28:21 You know, we're talking about that earlier about the students
28:23 and you see the impact they make and the impact...
28:25 And that's what keeps us going here,
28:27 really just seeing how the students are now
28:29 seeing him being a blessing for us as an organization.
28:33 He's is just incredible.
28:35 And, Chris, we wanna say thank you.
28:36 Thank you for taking the time,
28:37 we know you have a busy schedule
28:39 but the Lord continued to bless you.
28:40 I know we have some students
28:42 we want to talk with some testimonies.
28:43 Yes, we do have some students
28:45 that you can see their experiences as well.
28:46 Okay. Let's go see them.
28:47 I think they're doing some packing, aren't they?
28:49 Yes. They are. They are packing. Thank you.
28:50 Okay. Let's go. Thank you, Chris. All right.
28:52 Thank you, Chris.
28:53 Let's go. We're gonna see the students.
28:58 So we said we're gonna look for some students
29:01 and we come around the corner here.
29:02 And we found some.
29:03 Hi. Hello. Yes.
29:05 And we have Sharon and Jordan here,
29:07 working in a packaging area.
29:09 And, you know, we have been talking about the impact,
29:11 the spiritual impact,
29:13 that has canvassing has on the students.
29:15 So now we can hear from them not only from me.
29:18 So here we have Sharon. That's wonderful.
29:20 So, Sharon, tell us how long you have been here
29:22 at Ouachita Hills College?
29:24 This is my fifth year on campus,
29:26 I did two years in academy,
29:27 and then God led me to the college too,
29:29 so third year in college.
29:30 Where are you from?
29:31 Originally from Argentina but I grew up Louisiana,
29:34 just different parts.
29:35 And what are you taking?
29:37 I'm taking education here with minors in chemistry,
29:41 general science for pre-med.
29:43 You offer pre-med here?
29:45 Well, we offer all the classes that are needed, the sciences,
29:48 that are needed.
29:49 To prepare for the AMCAT.
29:51 It's wonderful.
29:52 So you've been involved in the literature evangelism,
29:54 the colporteur ministry,
29:55 since you were in the high school,
29:56 or not till college?
29:58 I started...
29:59 Did a week of canvassing in my senior year
30:01 and I decided it was not for me.
30:02 I'm just gonna ask you, how did you like that?
30:04 Yeah.
30:06 It was quite the shocker
30:07 and then I went to canvassing hits
30:08 the first week of college I was like,
30:10 "Lord, I need some help
30:12 'cause I obviously had a bad experience
30:14 the first time.
30:15 But God has completely transformed now
30:17 that I love the work.
30:19 So what was pivotal in that transformation?
30:22 I mean, what made the difference between
30:23 one day saying, "I hate this, I don't like this",
30:26 and the next day saying,
30:27 "Oh, I want to do this and I like it"
30:29 what made the difference?
30:31 Canvassing may seem like
30:32 a lot of like walking door-to-door physical work,
30:35 but it's a lot of mind work.
30:37 And so mentality has a lot to do with it.
30:41 It's whether you want to have like a bad day on the field,
30:45 or whether you want to put your trust completely in Jesus
30:47 that He's gonna provide for all your needs
30:49 and lead you to the people who need the books.
30:52 That's incredible I know when we were in college
30:55 I served one summer canvassing.
30:56 Yeah. I did the same.
30:57 Wow. And it was an incredible experience.
31:01 You know, just going door-to-door
31:02 but I do resonate with that.
31:04 Yes. Yeah.
31:05 Because there's those times thinking,
31:07 "I'm not sure, oh,
31:08 I'm not prayed up enough or I'm not enough..."
31:11 You got to stay in the word and surrendered
31:13 in that faith walk.
31:14 Exactly. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yeah.
31:16 I know it has its challenges
31:17 because I know in my own experience too,
31:19 you know, it is.
31:20 It requires a lot of faith in the Lord
31:21 because there is rejection.
31:23 Yeah.
31:24 You know, you get doors, maybe slammed in your face,
31:25 dogs chase you, you know, it just kind of...
31:27 Sometimes it can be taken as negative
31:29 but I think it's those growing experiences
31:30 and it's neat to see how the Lord has changed that.
31:33 And now, man, you think of the literature
31:36 and I see you have some DVDs, is that right here as well?
31:38 It's right.
31:39 But you're putting those in the hands of someone
31:41 that you may never ever meet again.
31:42 Exactly.
31:43 But in heaven I believe the full impact
31:45 of the whole work here, yeah,
31:46 will be fully realizing your work.
31:48 Amen.
31:49 So I know you have some experiences or...
31:51 Yeah, the testimony. Sure.
31:52 So we do businesses and homes
31:53 and on this particular day I was on a business trip.
31:56 And I usually love businesses
31:57 but I saw up ahead a certain business
31:59 that I didn't know.
32:00 I usually have bad experiences with.
32:02 Okay.
32:03 And so I was having problems that morning,
32:06 I was only have a couple of books out,
32:08 it's going really slow.
32:09 So at the moment I was like thinking
32:11 it's very hard to not think,
32:14 or just it's gonna be like a normal day,
32:15 just like struggling and nothing to show for it.
32:19 And so I looked at the time on my phone
32:21 and on my home screen
32:22 I always put a Bible verse for that day
32:25 and that day was Joshua 1:5.
32:27 That's a great idea. Absolutely. Yes.
32:29 Every time you look at the time,
32:30 it always reminds it.
32:32 And it says, "As I was with Moses,
32:33 so I will be with you.
32:35 I will not leave you nor forsake you."
32:37 And I was like, "Lord,
32:38 this is not going to how I wanted to go this morning
32:41 but I know that there are people out there
32:42 who need these books.
32:43 And as I go into this business
32:45 that I usually don't have good experiences with.
32:47 I want you to know that I want to trust in you,
32:48 help me to trust you more".
32:50 So you're doing all of this
32:51 as you're heading to this business
32:52 and see the storefront?
32:54 Yes, yes. Exactly. Okay.
32:55 So I walk in
32:56 and I immediately pointed to the manager,
32:58 which is usually what happens.
32:59 And I show her the books and she's like,
33:01 "Wow, health books, Bible books, this is amazing.
33:02 Over the past years I've lost 200 pounds,
33:06 my baby is, she was just born prematurely,
33:08 and she's in the hospital.
33:09 So we're needing this as a family
33:10 we're always praying together."
33:12 And I was just listening to her
33:14 and I was like expecting her to get like
33:15 two, three books, you know, whatever.
33:16 And she's like, "Okay, I'll get these nine."
33:19 And I looked at her, I was like,
33:21 "You're serious, ma'am?"
33:22 And she's like, "Yes, I'll choose this."
33:24 And so she writes me out a check
33:25 and I'm just sitting there
33:27 and like there's like customers waiting
33:28 but she doesn't care.
33:29 And she ends up getting that big set
33:31 and I'm just like floored by Jesus
33:34 because He has provided for me once again
33:37 especially after I had made that decision to trust Him
33:39 whether I got a lot of books that day or none.
33:42 So it's a beautiful experience for me to learn trusting God
33:46 and to continue with a positive mindset.
33:48 Amen.
33:49 What a beautiful faith building experience...
33:51 Amen. Mm-hmm.
33:52 Because you claimed the promise from His word
33:54 and then you went forward my faith
33:56 and look at how God opened up the door
33:57 and how you were a blessing to the person there as well.
33:59 Possibly.
34:00 And they bless me more than they
34:02 thought that I was a blessing to them.
34:03 Mm-hmm.
34:05 One of the things that I wanted to share
34:07 is the fact that, you know,
34:08 you get so excited by their experiences.
34:13 Oh, no. It's very interesting.
34:14 But one of the thing is I never canvassed before
34:16 never, never, and ever.
34:18 Oh, really.
34:19 And one of the things that I decided to do,
34:20 because when you listen to those experience
34:22 I wanna have the same experience.
34:23 Oh, yeah.
34:25 So in the past
34:26 I have just chosen to go on canvas with them.
34:29 And even though for me it's there
34:31 because it's difficult for an adult
34:33 to just opening the door and sell goods
34:36 that's just little more difficult.
34:38 But young people can really have more,
34:40 not only ability but the people are more open to
34:43 and willing to open their doors to young people.
34:45 Sure.
34:46 So I go with them and I pray with them
34:48 and I had exactly the same experience
34:50 the rejections and everything.
34:52 And I think it's very important that even though, you know,
34:55 people that really want to do this work
34:58 if they have families or friends
35:00 that wanna go, just join them.
35:02 And if you're an adult, join them
35:03 because this experience, her experience,
35:05 can become also your experience.
35:07 Amen.
35:08 Even though, you are not really the one canvassing.
35:11 So my job, when I go with them, is to pray, that's all,
35:13 and keep my mouth shut.
35:16 And that is very important to pray, you know,
35:18 because we believe in the power of prayer.
35:19 Exactly.
35:21 Because this is a spiritual experience,
35:22 it's not really a financial experience,
35:24 so it is really a spiritual experience.
35:25 It is because the literature is being put out
35:27 there is also spiritual too, so it's blessing others.
35:29 Amen. Wow. I know that's great.
35:31 I see we have some books here before we get to Jordan.
35:33 I was just looking at the books,
35:35 what types of books do you have?
35:36 I'm pulling this out "Habits That Heal."
35:38 Now we didn't sell this
35:39 when we went canvassing all those years ago.
35:42 Yeah.
35:43 See you can breakdown the sets that we have into a health set,
35:46 children set, prophecy set, and...
35:50 Kids set. Kids set.
35:52 Conglomeration you can make your own set, family set.
35:53 So how many books?
35:55 There's about 14 in total?
35:57 Wow. Twelve, fourteen.
35:58 So "Peace Above the Storm," this one is "Steps to Christ"
36:02 and "Habits that heal," takes excerpts
36:03 from Ministry of Healing and brings in science,
36:06 infographics,
36:07 that they can see how it's proved in science.
36:10 And we also have...
36:12 We talked about the Great Controversy
36:13 when we talked to Chris.
36:14 That's our bestseller, it's our favorite one.
36:16 Yeah. Is it your bestseller?
36:17 Mm-hmm. Wow.
36:18 Yeah. Fantastic.
36:20 Amen. And what a message too.
36:21 Absolutely. Especially for these times.
36:23 I know, it's very pertinent.
36:24 "Prince of peace," goes to the story of Jesus
36:27 from the Christmas story to the Easter story
36:28 and shows how He wants to be children's best friend.
36:31 Amen. Okay.
36:34 So when you go door-to-door to these businesses
36:37 are you carrying around the bag like a...
36:40 Or would you just carry all these books in your hand?
36:42 You have a little...
36:43 See, we normally carry about four to five in our hand
36:45 and we have a bag with us to have the rest of books.
36:47 So I know I shouldn't try
36:48 to do this, I'm gonna runoff here set a quick.
36:50 I saw this bag.
36:53 Now I, you know, this has it has, it says,
36:55 Ouachita Ministries Incorporated on it
36:57 but this brings back so many memories because...
36:59 Really? Yeah.
37:00 Well, I did literature evangelism
37:02 like 20 years ago,
37:03 you know, with like the mega books.
37:06 And we had a bag like this it was green.
37:08 And when I saw this here in your warehouse
37:10 I just had to grab it
37:11 because it brings back so many good memories.
37:13 But when you go around door-to-door
37:15 or to the businesses you have some in your hand
37:17 like you said, Jordan.
37:18 But then you have this with extra in it,
37:19 in case you get someone who says,
37:21 "Hey, I want everything."
37:22 Yeah. It's like, "Hey, I got to watch.
37:24 And you have to be ready.
37:25 That's right. Yeah.
37:26 So anyway it's just...
37:28 Yeah. It's great.
37:29 It's wonderful the ministry and the work
37:30 that you're doing for the Lord.
37:32 Amen. Amen. Amen.
37:33 And, Jordan, what about you?
37:34 What you are you?
37:36 And how long you've been here?
37:37 So this is my second year at Ouachita Hills,
37:39 I'm studying theology.
37:40 And I wanna share testimony with you, guys,
37:41 about how this works, in particular reaches people
37:45 that would not be reached otherwise,
37:47 if we were not going out and doing this work.
37:50 This was recently over the spring break canvassing.
37:53 I was canvassing businesses
37:54 and I came up to this tattoo parlor.
37:56 Now normally when you think of a tattoo parlor,
37:58 you don't think, you know,
38:00 people are gonna be totally in the spiritual things.
38:02 And I see a man
38:04 who's standing outside smoking a cigarette,
38:05 he has tattoos everywhere.
38:08 I mean, all over his arms, all over his face,
38:10 he's got the big gages in his ears, piercing,
38:12 I mean, everywhere.
38:13 And so as I'm walking up to him, I'm thinking.
38:17 The natural was to think to think
38:19 he's not gonna be interested.
38:21 I'll just go to another business, you know.
38:25 But then, you know, Holy Spirit spoke to me said,
38:27 "You don't know his heart."
38:29 We don't know hearts, we can't read hearts.
38:31 So I went up to him
38:32 and I started showing him some of the books that we had.
38:35 I showed him the "Habits that Heal,"
38:39 and he was looking at the book.
38:41 And I asked him if he had a spiritual background at all.
38:43 And he said, "No, I'm an atheist."
38:45 But the way he said it was really cool,
38:46 very open to talk to him.
38:48 Okay. I said, "Okay, no problem."
38:49 It so wasn't like get away from me.
38:51 No, no. Not that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's good.
38:52 He wasn't like that.
38:53 He was very open to talk with me
38:55 and so I showed him the Great Controversy next and I...
38:57 I told him how this book helps put intelligence
39:00 behind blind faith.
39:02 You know, a lot people they go to church,
39:03 it helps put intelligence behind blind faith.
39:06 So what was his response to that?
39:07 Did he said...?
39:08 So he's looking, he's flipping the pages,
39:11 he's looking, he's nodding his head.
39:12 Yeah. Okay, okay.
39:14 And I got to share with him little bit of my testimony,
39:15 how this book helped me see that...
39:17 We can actually trust in God and believe in the Bible,
39:19 you know.
39:20 And I closed him on the books, I told him what we're doing,
39:22 and he's looking at the books...
39:24 He's got both of those books in his hands,
39:26 got the Great Controversy, and the Habits that Heal.
39:28 And he's like, "Oh, man."
39:29 He's like... It was like...
39:31 This was on a Wednesday,
39:32 he's like, "I get paid Friday, man.
39:33 If you can come back Friday, I'll get both of these books."
39:36 Wow.
39:38 That the Lord impressed me, you know,
39:39 because this work is not about money.
39:40 That's right. It's about reaching people.
39:42 And when you're willing to give,
39:43 God will always bless.
39:44 Like the testimony I have God has always provided.
39:48 So I said, "Which one most interested you
39:49 out of those two?
39:51 If you can just choose one, which one?
39:53 And then he's looking at them and said, "Well,
39:54 I really like the Great Controversy
39:56 because I like knowledge.
39:57 You know, I like to learn and..."
39:59 He said, "I sold up things but..."
40:00 He said, "I need this health book too because..."
40:03 He said, "I'm borderline diabetic."
40:05 And I was like, "Really?
40:06 Okay and..."
40:08 And so the Lord impressed me
40:09 to just leave the both books with him.
40:10 He needs both of these books. Wow.
40:12 And I asked... His name is Kevin.
40:13 I said, "Kevin, if I give you these books,
40:15 do you think you actually read them?
40:17 He said, "Man, I definitely will,
40:18 I'm gonna start reading right now."
40:19 Thank you, Jesus.
40:21 And I was like, "I wanna be give you it as a gift."
40:23 And he's like, "Look, if you can come back Friday,
40:25 I promise."
40:26 He's like, "You can leave the books over here
40:27 but if you come back Friday, I will you give you the money."
40:29 And on normally we don't get a chance
40:32 to come back to the same area that we did
40:33 because, you know, we have canvassed that area
40:35 but I got the opportunity to go back Friday.
40:39 And soon as I walked in he's like,
40:40 "Man, I'm glad that you came back."
40:42 And he got out the money, and came out
40:43 and talked to me some more,
40:44 and he just told me I have been reading that health book.
40:47 And he's like, "You know, I'm so glad that you came by."
40:51 You know, he's like...
40:52 And I see this was guy
40:54 that would never step inside a church,
40:57 would never come to an evangelistic series,
40:59 or anything like that.
41:01 The only way that he was gonna be reached
41:02 is if the gospel was brought to him.
41:04 And that's what we're doing, we're fulfilling Matthew 25,
41:07 when Jesus said, "You know, you came to me
41:08 when I was hungry.
41:10 You came to where I was that you visited me."
41:13 And the fulfillment that we received
41:15 in doing this work, man, nothing can beat it.
41:16 Amen. Mm-hmm.
41:17 Amen.
41:19 You know...
41:20 That's incredible. Oh, it is.
41:21 Oh, tell me,
41:23 you're a theology student, right?
41:24 So how do you feel the canvassing work
41:26 is preparing you for the calling God has in you?
41:32 Man, I cannot express to you what you just said it.
41:36 It prepares you in so many facets like,
41:41 I can't even name them all.
41:42 If you were to ask me to write them all down,
41:45 you couldn't even do it.
41:47 But it helps you be it for what...
41:49 I'll give you one specific way
41:50 that I see how it's gonna be helping me
41:51 and the ministry that I'm doing.
41:53 It helps you be able to reach
41:55 all different types of people and classes.
41:56 Mm-hmm.
41:58 Because, you know, everyone's minds are so different,
41:59 everyone has a different background,
42:01 different where they come from.
42:02 And as you go door-to-door you meet...
42:03 I mean, you meet people from all around the world,
42:05 you meet people who are atheists,
42:07 who are Christian, who are Buddhist, a Muslim,
42:08 and you meet every type of person.
42:10 And it really teaches you how to be able to reach them
42:13 on their level where they're at and be able to speak to people,
42:15 you know.
42:16 And so that's one way to tell you.
42:19 You know, I was thinking too, you know, both of you really...
42:21 And, Sharon, you mentioned to far as with the business,
42:23 you know, so easy we can judge
42:25 the situation we can judge people,
42:28 we can judge like a certain business,
42:30 like you were saying.
42:31 You know, to just say, "Okay.
42:33 I know there's nothing here.
42:34 Let me just, you know, let me just walk on."
42:36 So I think also it's a great lesson
42:38 even it reminds me again,
42:40 don't judge the Lord knows the heart.
42:43 And we just our responsibility is to what, just spread.
42:46 Yeah, to just...
42:48 Amen. Yeah.
42:49 Put it out there and let God do the work.
42:51 Absolutely.
42:52 And one of the things that we mentioned before is that,
42:54 you know, you are really fulfilling
42:56 the gospel commission
42:57 but also it's helping the students financially
42:59 so they can probably share some
43:01 of how this is helping them also to get an education.
43:04 I know for myself and thinking about coming to college
43:08 that was one of my main worries that I had in my mind like
43:11 I don't have means to be able to provide for college.
43:14 I don't want to get debt by any means, you know.
43:17 And so this canvassing work
43:18 I've been here for two years now
43:21 and the Lord has provided all of my needs
43:23 through the canvassing work.
43:25 Wow. All of your needs.
43:26 All of my needs.
43:28 That's the praise be to the Lord, isn't it?
43:29 Amen.
43:31 It's only Him because it's as we go out,
43:34 you know, some days, you know, you used to be struggling,
43:36 you know, wondering, "Lord, you know my needs,
43:40 you know, but again it goes back to the purpose
43:43 of why you're doing work."
43:44 If you're out there to really bless people
43:46 and bring Jesus to them.
43:48 The Lord is like, "I got you."
43:49 Just trust God to take care all of your needs.
43:51 That's right.
43:52 I think about promise my God shall supply all my needs...
43:54 All my needs.
43:55 According to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus.
43:58 Amen. That's incredible.
44:00 And we wanna encourage you at home
44:01 to get involved in literature ministry.
44:04 Get involved in outreach.
44:05 What if someone's wondering
44:08 maybe someone's watching this interview in their home
44:10 and they're saying,
44:12 "I'm afraid, I'm kind of a shy person,
44:16 I'm afraid of rejection,
44:17 I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with the door."
44:20 What would you tell them?
44:22 It's not always wise to start something called Turkey.
44:26 So there's many different ways we can share Jesus,
44:29 it's not just I have to be at a door,
44:32 but if God is calling you to be at a door
44:34 then you have to start somewhere, right?
44:36 So that's why we've been provided with glow tracts
44:39 or even making bookmarks to share with people
44:41 at your work.
44:42 Just many different ways and ask Jesus
44:44 because Jesus has a special job for each one of us.
44:48 And so we have to ask Him,
44:49 "Lord, how do you want me to share you?"
44:52 Because with our personalities we can reach certain people
44:55 in this and that.
44:56 And so it's important to ask Him
44:58 how He wants us to share
44:59 and then be open to follow His word
45:01 and hear what He'll say.
45:02 Now that's... Yeah.
45:04 Well said because sometimes
45:05 people may be a little intimidated to go to door
45:07 and ask for donation for a book.
45:08 But the glow tracts are just little pamphlets.
45:09 Yes.
45:11 Like some people may not know what a glow tract is
45:12 but it's just a small little tract
45:13 that's free, right?
45:15 You can be where?
45:17 Anywhere. Anywhere.
45:18 Leave them on bathrooms, anywhere.
45:19 Exactly.
45:21 So you don't have to talk to someone face to face,
45:23 if you're too afraid to begin with to talk to someone,
45:25 you can just leave it somewhere
45:26 and who knows who'll pick it up.
45:28 Amen. That's great.
45:29 I'm sure that everyone
45:31 who has canvassed can express this.
45:34 I gonna myself like I'm not a very outgoing person,
45:38 I was very nervous when I first learned
45:39 that I was doing canvassing.
45:41 Oh, yes.
45:42 You know, everyone has those nervous
45:44 so it's normal to be nervous.
45:46 That's right. Yeah.
45:47 That's what I'd tell, because I'm one of the leaders
45:48 I lead the canvassing teams.
45:50 And so I always tell my students
45:52 especially the new ones,
45:53 "Don't be nervous about being nervous."
45:56 Oh, don't be nervous about being nervous.
45:58 Yeah.
45:59 It's a natural thing to be nervous
46:01 when you first start,
46:02 you know, but the beauty of it is as you start doing,
46:04 as you get out there, and those self maybe like,
46:07 "I don't wanna do this."
46:08 If you would just step out in faith,
46:10 God will start giving you love and it will become natural,
46:12 you actually like going to doors, you know,
46:14 He really will change you.
46:16 That's true.
46:17 And you can see the students
46:19 when it's just about the time to go canvassing
46:20 they get all excited.
46:22 And then but a few days before the program,
46:25 they start kind of getting sick,
46:26 and they're nervous, and things like that.
46:28 But, you know, then you start working with them
46:30 and building out their faith that where,
46:32 because I know that they're afraid.
46:35 And that is normal, that is really normal so I'm...
46:37 And, you know, I think Satan knows the impact,
46:40 the canvassing work has
46:41 so he says, I'm gonna do everything I can
46:43 to prevent this from taking place.
46:44 Exactly.
46:46 But God is stronger.
46:47 Amen, amen.
46:48 And with the incredible results
46:50 the people coming to know Jesus.
46:51 And that's what I think that this work has thought me
46:53 just the unseen powers around us
46:55 and how God is asking us to be on His side.
46:58 Canvassing has open to me,
47:01 opened my eyes how we can see the great controversy
47:04 right on the field.
47:06 And one thing that, I think it's very important
47:08 is that people remember
47:10 that we should not act based on feelings, you know.
47:12 Exactly.
47:13 Because feelings is something that change
47:15 so it is based on principle as Sharon mentioned,
47:18 if you see the Lord leading you to go canvassing
47:21 and do canvassing work,
47:22 go regardless of how you're feeling.
47:24 Exactly.
47:25 Just because God is calling, God will enable,
47:27 and that will be a wonderful experience
47:29 for them too...
47:30 Amen. Amen.
47:32 Well, thank you, very much
47:33 Jordan and Sharon for joining us.
47:35 That's neat to see how God is working in your lives,
47:37 you know, and the impact you've already made
47:40 on who knows countless people already
47:42 that you've reached through
47:43 literature evangelism work and other areas
47:45 as well, and I know you're a blessing to this school here.
47:48 That's right. Yes, they are.
47:50 And it's neat to see
47:51 how God is using this school here
47:53 to bless people from around the world.
47:56 And I'm hoping that this can be multiply
47:58 to all other institutions as well.
48:00 Yeah.
48:01 That's one of the key things too
48:03 because we wanna go to the address roll here
48:05 just shortly that will give the information
48:07 'cause we talked about ways
48:11 that people can get books in at a discounted rate
48:13 and even for families.
48:15 Yes. You don't have to be a school.
48:16 Or institution. Institution.
48:18 No, no.
48:19 Even our students when they are going traveling
48:22 or something like that and they wanna, you know,
48:24 they need to some funds,
48:25 they actually get boxes of books with them,
48:28 they take that for their families.
48:30 And so there are many different ways
48:32 that they can call us and contact us
48:34 to get there our books.
48:36 Some people will actually come
48:38 to avoid the shipping charges.
48:40 So they come here and pick up. And they pick it up.
48:41 They come here and pick them up. Yeah.
48:42 That will be another way
48:44 so if you wanna come and visit Ouachita Hills,
48:46 you can come and load your van with books.
48:48 Amen.
48:49 And it is a beautiful drive.
48:50 I'll tell you that, you're off the interstate ways
48:52 about 30, 40 minutes
48:54 and it's just a beautiful drive coming here to Ouachita Hills.
48:57 Yeah. We'll love it here, so, yeah.
48:59 We've been working here for 11 year and I'll tell you,
49:02 I think I will just die here.
49:06 Or if Jesus is coming before that.
49:08 Jesus coming before that day.
49:09 So before we go to the address break
49:10 and then picture back to the studio
49:12 there is anything in closing that you would like to share.
49:14 I know that there are so many things
49:15 I'm sure your mind is just full of all the blessings
49:18 what God has done.
49:19 Anything in closing in last couple of minutes.
49:21 Well, I want to share with everybody the fact that,
49:25 you know, when God is calling not only to canvassing
49:28 but any type of ministry, you know, step out in faith.
49:33 Ouachita Hills has been blessed by many.
49:37 Our job has been to focus on what God called us to do,
49:40 that is to train young people.
49:42 And in that way God has provided
49:44 also for our financial needs doing His work.
49:47 So I wanna make, you know, we would like to talk to people
49:49 that are thinking about in the ministry perspective,
49:53 creating a new ministry
49:54 that there are ways that they can finance their ministry
49:57 by doing God's work.
49:59 And I am praying that
50:01 what we have could be a blessing to them.
50:03 Amen.
50:04 Thank you for letting us come to Ouachita Hill College.
50:06 It's a pleasure to have both of you.
50:07 3ABN today on location,
50:10 we don't get to do this too often
50:11 so it's a lot of fun.
50:13 Yes, yes, yes. Thank you for the hospitality.
50:14 It's been great. Yeah. Thank you so much. Okay.
50:16 It's such a blessing, it's such a blessing
50:18 and for you to join us here our location
50:20 at Ouachita Hills College.
50:22 And we're just so thankful for the work in ministry
50:24 that has been done here
50:26 through the leadership of Magda Rodriguez
50:28 as well as her entire team and most importantly
50:31 what the Lord Jesus...
50:33 That's right.
50:34 Is doing in and through, the staff and the students
50:37 and what takes place here.
50:39 We wanna encourage you to pray for Ouachita Hills College,
50:42 to pray for the evangelism that's going on.
50:45 We wanna encourage you to contact them
50:47 if you want to get possibly the books.
50:51 If you're saying, "I want to get involved,
50:52 I need advice,
50:54 I want to come and pick up some of those books,
50:56 I want them shipped to me."
50:57 Maybe this model can be duplicated
51:00 around the country and around the world.
51:02 If you would like to financially support
51:05 the ministry here and what God is doing here.
51:08 Even if you wanna be part of Ouachita Hills College.
51:10 Oh, it's a good point.
51:11 We have always openings and opportunities for people
51:14 that are willing to come and join our ministry
51:16 so they can just give us a call.
51:17 Amen. Amen. Oh, that's great.
51:19 It's a wonderful school. Oh, it is.
51:20 I know Greg and I'd been here before.
51:22 And we just wanna encourage you
51:23 if you would like to financially support
51:25 the ministry here at Ouachita Hills College.
51:28 And we wanna put up their contact information.
51:30 And I think the most important thing is prayer.
51:33 Amen.
51:34 Prayer for this ministry
51:36 and prayer for what is God doing
51:37 in and through them.
51:38 So right now we're gonna go to their contact information.
51:43 If you would like to find out more
51:45 about Ouachita Hills College
51:46 or if you would like to apply to study there,
51:49 you may contact them in a variety of ways.
51:51 You can write to them at Ouachita Hills College,
51:54 PO Box 170, Amity, Arkansas 71921.
51:59 That's Ouachita Hills College, PO Box 170, Amity,
52:04 Arkansas 71921.
52:07 You can call them at 870-342-6210.
52:11 That's 870-342-6210.
52:15 You can also visit their website at ohc.org.
52:20 That's ohc.org.


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