I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my word
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray,
and allow me once again
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to thank you for sharing
just a little of your no doubt
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busy day with us.
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Thank you for sharing
your love, your prayers,
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your support of this ministry.
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We realize that we could not do,
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what we are called to
do without your partnership
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and your prayers
and your support.
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So when we say thank
you, it's not something
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that just comes from the
lips, it comes from the heart.
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And we do thank
you for your presence,
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your support of Three
Angels Broadcasting Network.
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I'm excited today,
I'm excited yea verily.
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I'm excited
because of the topic,
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I'm excited
because of my guests.
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And sometimes you meet people,
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and you feel that
you've known them a long time,
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even though you
haven't known them a long time.
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Duane McKey, President
of Adventist World Radio,
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and so many other
hats, I'm gonna come into
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the rest of you
in just a moment.
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But we met only a few years ago
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but it seems like
I've known you forever.
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So I don't want
to say old friends
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because when we get to our age,
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you don't want
to say old friends.
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We will say dear
friends. Be careful, yeah.
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We don't want to say old friend.
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You wear so many
hats and first of all,
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good to have you here.
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Very thanks, CA,
great to be here with you.
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Yeah.
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You're here today in wearing
your Adventist World Radio hat.
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And also your
TMI hat a little bit.
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Yeah, both.
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You can't get it over from here.
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Yeah, it all goes together.
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Yeah, yeah, we're going
to explain what that is.
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Kathy McKey, how
are you my, lady?
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I'm very well, thank
you. Indeed, you are.
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Let me get your title right
because it's an impressive one.
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It's Social Media
and Outreach Coordinator
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out of the President's
office or Presidential.
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Yes.
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And that's President
of the General Conference?
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That's right.
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So you work
closely with Elder Wilson
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and do I think the
secretary of Priers Marilyn.
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Marilyn Priers.
Yeah. Very, very good.
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And the new face, Cami
Oetman, Outman, Oetman?
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Oetman, yes. Oetman.
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And you are vice president
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for Advancement
Adventist World Radio?
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Yes, I am.
Fairly recent position?
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It is. You're settling well?
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So excited. Yes, wow.
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Very, very good.
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Good to have all you three here,
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we're going to talk
about a lot of things.
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Obviously, Adventist World Radio
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is under new leadership.
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Now as I recall,
Duane, I need to ask you
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because when you were first
elected at General Conference,
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it was so
something totally different.
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Yeah, that's right.
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You got up
there and the brethren
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kind of changed, he
put the goal post on you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You started out
in Sabbath school...
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Sabbath school, and
I'm also a tour member
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of Elder Wilson's office
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as his special
assistant for TMI.
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And as often happens, you
are such a gifted person...
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Oh, you are very kind.
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And what they do to give
to say you, you're doing good,
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give you more work.
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That's right.
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So they took Sabbath
school, now it's AWR?
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Yeah, that's right.
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Define what AWR is for
those who may not know?
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Right, Adventist World Radio.
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We have 800
stations around the world,
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our big one is of course
Guam when we have the shortwave.
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But we're also venturing
into a lot of other areas
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to communicate
the gospel to people
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because we believe
Jesus is coming soon.
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Amen. Amen, amen.
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Now very quickly for
those, who may not know
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because for a
while I did not know.
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The difference
between what AWR does
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and say a regular FM
station or even AM station
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as far as coverage is concerned.
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Yes, yes.
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We work in different
countries with FM stations
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and we do coverage in
that area like in Romania.
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We had coverage
all across the country
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with lots of FM stations
that will pick the signal up
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and rebroadcast it.
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And we're doing it
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and the
wonderful example we have,
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you know, we just had
them in one of our meetings
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that we'll mention
over in Rwanda last year
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where 100,000
people were baptized
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and now they're looking
at baptizing another 100,000.
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Cami preached there...
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Yes. Had a wonderful time.
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Amen. Life changing.
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Absolutely.
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Not only for me but the
other team members as well.
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We just, when you're preaching
you give yourself to Lord
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to be used, you
just, you get changed.
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The exciting thing
about Rwanda is now AWR.
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We are putting three new
towers across the country
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in strategic locations, so that
we can reach Burundi part of it
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and Rwanda, we can
reach Goma and Zaire,
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the Congo and also
that part of Rwanda,
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and in up north to Uganda,
and in that part of Rwanda.
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So perhaps 200,000 new members
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because you're doing
another series right now
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with Total Member Involvement.
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They need a lot of information
and lot of encouragement
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from the union and
pastoral leadership
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and so they can
use a radio to do that.
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We've got so many titles
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that are
initials that are letters.
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You got AWR, TMI, LMNOPQRS,
you know, you got so many,
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well, we need to walk
through all of this stuff,
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because it's all
very, very important.
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And you are certainly
involved in all of this.
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Let's go back...
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Okay.
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And sort of
flesh out what TMI is
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and what your role is there?
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Okay.
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I'm Elder
Wilson's special assistant
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for a Total
Member Involvement, TMI.
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You know, some people say,
"Well, I know what TMI means.
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That means too many
people in Indianapolis."
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But you know there's something
called a sticky principle
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and so people remember
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because they associate
TMI with something else.
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Yes.
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And then they
remember it and then we bring
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in the
definition from the church
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and apply to that.
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And so they remember
what it means to the church,
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Total Member Involvement.
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And actually, we're told that
the work will not be finished
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until men and women
join together working.
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We talked about that
before, working together,
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joining hands together with...
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As the statement says
with the church elders
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and the pastors, we
have to work together,
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men and women working
together to finish work.
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We've seen this
and these big projects
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like Rwanda and
Harare where we were
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and the Philippines,
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and all these huge
projects we've done.
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When we work
together like, for example,
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we will go to
Zambia in a few minutes
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and talk about
Lusaka, the pastors,
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they're saying, they've told me,
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"We can do a
thousand evangelistic meetings
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all at the same
time in one city."
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Wow! That's impressive. Awesome.
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Now there are two
facets to TMI as I understand
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because there's
the big meetings.
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Right.
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But there's also an initiative
to get every member doing
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what they can where they
can in their own local area.
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Yeah.
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And we'll move to
that in a few minutes
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when we get to the slides.
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But Elder Wilson
likes this statement a lot,
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connecting the dots.
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Connecting the dots.
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You know, we can do
a series of meetings
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all by itself and we'll fail.
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We can do a cooking school.
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Actually, a friend of
mine who just told me,
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he said that they have
lots of money in their church,
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and he said, "For last 30 years,
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we had had the best
cooking schools in the world."
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And he said, "You know
what, we haven't baptized one."
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And I said, the problem is
you haven't connected the dots.
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So that got to be
connected together so,
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we can do lots
of different things,
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we should in our communities,
everybody can do something
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for Jesus as TMI,
Total Member Involvement.
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But it's got to be connected,
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it's got to be
planned and worked...
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Yes.
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As focused, you're gonna
go in some place with it.
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And of course, AWR
has a big part of that.
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Yeah.
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As we broadcast, we
call it the New AWR.
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Yeah. We've got so
much to talk about.
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I'm trying to
sequences in my brain there
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because there are so
many areas that hit us.
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I'm gonna jump down to
Cami for just a little bit.
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Because you're sort of
the new girl on the block.
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Yeah.
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You were working
in business before.
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Walk us through
how your sort of call.
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I know through
whom the call came.
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But give me just a
little history of your life
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before you came to AWR?
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Well, sure.
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I actually, I have my masters
in Social Work and I worked
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with the hospice
population for quite a few years
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and then became a
director of a small facility,
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medical
facility in Palm Springs.
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And then I decided,
you know, I'm gonna venture
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and try my own business.
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So from an idea I
created first a boutique
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and then an
ecommerce of over 20,000 skews
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or products online
and built it into...
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You know, life was
pretty good, you know.
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But honestly, it
was feeling empty
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like I had everything
but I was just missing,
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I was missing purpose
beyond self and beyond,
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you know, building
my little mini-empire.
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And so I just started
going back to the Bible,
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started, I love
prophecy as a child.
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I remember, my Dad
preaching prophecy.
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And so I went back to that
and it just started inside me
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growing this desire to
know more and more, more.
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So I was asked to actually
preach an evangelistic series
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and that in the last three
and half years turned into,
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I believe something
like 280 presentations
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in the last
three and half years.
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And I was somebody who
wasn't going to get upfront
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or to pray out loud but
God does miracles today.
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Amen.
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And He has just
changed everything
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and I have been so honored
and blessed to be a part of
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what God is doing
right now across the world.
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I mean, not only in
our own homes and families,
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but to be a part of
this massive project
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here with AWR and
TMI, it's just incredible.
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And so I met these
wonderful people at,
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in San Antonio at the GC.
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And little did I know that
God would intertwine our lives.
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So that they asked me
to go to Rwanda with TMI
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and so I went to Rwanda.
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And just an
incredible experience
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to have a thousand
people come on a hillside
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and gather before you, to
hear about Bible prophecy,
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and what Jesus is wanting to do
in their lives blows you away.
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How can I be here right now?
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But God uses
everyone that's willing.
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And so after that
experience, then I was asked
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to be team leader in Romania.
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And so I was up in
Northeastern Romania
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near Moldova, city called Ia i.
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And I preached
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two evangelistic
series there actually
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and it was a blessing.
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I mean, even my translators,
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one came forward
and was baptized.
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Praise the Lord.
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Yeah, it just
was, it's incredible.
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So then the
call came to join AWR
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and I am so thrilled.
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Okay, so you kind of
got the bit in your mouth
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as far as being
hooked. Oh, my...
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Oh, I'm hooked.
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I'm in all the way
however God can use me.
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Praise the Lord.
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As you look back at because...
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You're Pastor's
daughter? I am, yes.
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As you look back
at what you were doing
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before to sort of, as you
said, "Build your own kingdom."
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Then now you sort
of self actualize,
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now you're doing something
for the world, for the Lord.
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Yes. Compare that
time to this time?
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Oh, complete difference.
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I mean, this is so fulfilling,
there is purpose everyday and,
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you know, when you pray, Lord,
cross my path with anybody,
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somebody today to
make a difference,
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to change, to share you.
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He does everyday.
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I don't care if it's
at the grocery store,
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it's the taxi
driver, it's the whoever,
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even somebody on the airplane.
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God will put people
in your lives to impact
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and shine through you.
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Amen.
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And that's what's
happening and that is...
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And we got to
have, once you have that
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on a daily basis,
you got to have it.
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Yes. Praise the Lord. Well said.
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Wonderful. Sharp left turn.
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I will say what
she should not say,
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what Duane would not say,
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Kathy would not say,
well, I say she's single,
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she's attractive, she's special.
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Oh, my...
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And if you need any
references, call me.
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Oh, no. Praise the Lord.
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Okay, commercial
gone, let's get back.
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Now we get back to business now.
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TMI... Yeah.
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Do you wanna go to
AWR? Yeah, let's go to AWR.
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AWR first because you,
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sort of, you've got a new focus.
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Right, together. And together.
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You've got a new focus
and walk me through AWR 360?
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Okay.
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Let's see the
pictures, we may look at that.
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Yes.
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And the first one we'll come up
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and we'll just
kind of go through it.
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AWR 360 is we want
to complete the circle.
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You know, then that's
again connecting the dots,
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so that we are
not just broadcast.
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I think the next
picture is very good at that.
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We not only
broadcast, but we also...
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There it is, you see.
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We want to broadcast, so
it's broadcast to Baptism.
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And that's what the focus is
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broadcast right
there to baptism.
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From broadcast to baptism.
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Amen. Amen.
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So when I became
President of AWR,
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they tell me all these hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds
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and thousands of people
that are watching the podcast
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and everything around the world.
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Very, very impressing
numbers, enormous numbers.
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Yeah.
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I'm saying to
myself, who are they?
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Well said. Where does that go?
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Are they really listening?
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You know, what's
happening in their lives?
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So we got to somehow
connect them to local churches
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and that gets the job done.
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Like a friend of
mine said, he is a big,
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he is a businessman,
you know, who he is.
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And he said to me, he said,
"You know, and in business,
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the deal is not done
until the contract is signed."
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Yes, sir. Close the deal. Yeah.
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Close the deal. Close the deal.
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And he said, "In your
work, the deal is not done,
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it's not finished until people
are in the water or baptized."
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And so that's my
goal, you know, yes,
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every means possible
to communicate the gospel
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through television,
through radio, through podcast,
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everything that we do.
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Yeah.
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But then somehow we got to
connect them with local church.
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Yeah. Plans.
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Yeah.
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You know, it occurs to
me, I think there are those
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who may think of
that as rather mercenary,
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but it is not,
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it's actually the
actual goal of evangelism.
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That's right.
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You don't just throw the hook
in the water and let it just
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kind of float, you want to
get the fish down in that line,
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you know.
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And once you do you want
to reel them in, you know,
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you want to bring
people to the truth.
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And Jesus said, "Follow me,
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and I will make
you fishers of men."
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Precisely, yeah.
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Well, and from the
listener's perspective,
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if they want more information
what a wonderful thing
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to be able to
follow up with them
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and connect them with people
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who can show them in
the Bible more information.
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Yeah.
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You know, in addition to
what they're hearing online
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or on radio, which
I mean is incredible.
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Yeah, so your ultimate
goal is to connect them
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with the local fellowships so...
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Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now Jesus said, "Go
into all the world and preach
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and teach and baptize."
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We have a
commission by our Lord.
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It's from the Bible.
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Yeah. And so...
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So the new focus if we
were to put it in a centre
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is to follow through.
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Yeah.
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It is to take it from what
they hear sitting in their homes
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how are they
connecting to connection
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with the local fellowship.
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And that's how TMI fits
into that very, very well.
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Excellent, excellent.
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Do you have more
pictures? Yeah, we do.
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Let's go to couple
more pictures here.
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This is, you are
familiar with that,
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you were with us
over in Eastern Europe.
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It was
thrilling, we have a video,
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we'll show you
that just a minute.
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Let's go to another picture.
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This is all the
countries in Eastern Europe.
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This is the Doma people,
Kathy and I were just there
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a few weeks ago.
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This is a
thrilling story about how TMI
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and actually the local
people there in Harare,
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Zimbabwe, in Africa.
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You know, we were
there in Harare together.
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And just up north,
there is Doma people.
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These people live like
that. You saw the picture.
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Yeah, yeah. It's amazing.
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They live in a little village.
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They're like the
pygmies in the Congo,
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we used to live there,
we were there for 10 years.
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And it's like the
Bushmen in the Kalahari.
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They live on
little roots and animals.
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And so now ADRA has
come in and worked within,
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that's part of the TMI.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then ASI has gone
in and then we build up
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a beautiful
school, thanks to Garwin,
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the one day church project
that we put that in there.
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We drilled some wells from
Southwestern Union and ADRA.
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And so they've
settled down, they're working
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and it's just a miracle
how this has all come about.
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But two years ago,
we gave them 200...
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Godpods.
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Oh, wow. Yeah.
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And the Godpods have
100 hours on them of Bible,
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health
presentations, Bible studies.
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And believe it or not, exercise.
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It's healthy
actually, stretching exercises.
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I said, exercise,
these people need exercise.
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With the Godpods there's
no radio connection there.
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We're going to do that though,
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we're going to put
the station near them.
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Oh, praise the Lord. But
right now, there is none.
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And so they have these
Godpods and they listen to them
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and now we have
300 new members there.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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And these are solar
powered? Yeah. Solar powered.
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Yes, on the site. Yes.
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Yeah.
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But the problem is
we only have 15 left.
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Oh, wow. Yeah.
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Because they're
crossing the river,
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they would drop
them in the water,
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out of their clothes
or out in their field,
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they'd drop them in the mud.
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Somebody steals them or
they break, mostly break.
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So we have 15 left
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and we still
need over another 200.
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Praise God.
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And to get there is I
mean, it's quite a trek.
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I mean, from
Harare to the Doma people,
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you go over
these incredible roads
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and then you cross a stream.
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Eight hours.
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And then you walk,
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we walked an hour
and we weren't there yet.
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I mean, we were
at some other places,
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but to get to the school,
and where the wells are was,
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yeah, it was quite a trek.
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And by the way, ASI would
be very happy, I told Garwin,
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the school is now
running, it wasn't running,
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but it was a miracle.
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Absolutely, we
wouldn't tell all the details.
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We were supposed
to go to Lubumbashi.
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Yes, and we didn't realize
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that it took so
much time to get a visa.
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We used to live there,
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we want to go back and
preach a health series there.
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Yes, yes.
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And so I said to
Kathy, "Well, we can't go
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to Lubumbashi,
let's go to Harare
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and up to the Doma people.
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And so I called..."
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Jonathan Musvosvi.
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Jonathan and Judith Musvosvi,
she's the ADRA director,
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and I said we want to
come and visit the Doma people.
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Can we rent a car and do
that? Can you go with us?
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She said, "You
know, I don't go there.
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The road is so terrible."
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And this had
been an ADRA project,
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they have workers there.
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And she said, "I don't go there.
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It's just
terrible." But she said, okay.
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She said, "Actually, I
have to go the day before
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you're coming because we
have a donor coming from Europe,
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and they want to go
and look at the project."
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So I had to take this lady
up there from ADRA, Europe.
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Austria, wasn't it? Yes.
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Yeah.
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And so she got there and
the school wasn't running.
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It's sitting there for
over a year not running.
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The government doesn't
want to open it for some reason.
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So she gets there and she says,
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you know, talks to all
the government officials,
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got them all together.
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And she said, "You
know, the people responsible
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for raising the
money are coming tomorrow
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and they're going
to be really unhappy
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if the school is not opened.
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And it's going
to hurt donations."
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Yes, yes.
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Donations to
Zimbabwe from overseas.
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And so the next day I
talked to the person in charge,
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the government official,
they are at the school,
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on the hill by the Doma people,
they're on the mountains,
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overlooking
Zambia and Mozambique
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and the whole area.
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So we're talking and I
asked him about the school.
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He said, "It'll be
opened in two weeks."
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Yes. Amen.
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So we're
thinking it's running now.
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Yes.
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We're thinking it's running now.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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You know, I noticed something
in spending time with you.
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Kathy is, works out of
the president's office,
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but she's your
personal logician statistician.
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That's right.
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And without Kathy's input,
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I think you'd be
hurting up, I guess.
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I would.
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But not really. Now we have two.
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And now you
guys, praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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All right, did we
exhaust our pictures
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or we got some more?
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No, we got more. Quite few more.
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Yeah, quite a few more. Okay.
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So...
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This is a picture
of Zambia, Lusaka.
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Lusaka. Wow.
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That's our pastors that
are working for us there.
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Amen.
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And here we want to
take our European pastors
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and lay people to Zambia.
00:20:01.40\00:20:02.76
Many of them are
little nervous with evangelism
00:20:02.80\00:20:06.07
and so we like for them to
have a really good experience.
00:20:06.10\00:20:08.27
So they're actually
going to do meetings?
00:20:08.30\00:20:09.64
Yeah. Excellent.
00:20:09.67\00:20:11.01
Just like we do. Yeah.
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Excellent, excellent.
00:20:12.41\00:20:13.74
But to prepare for
that, we're going to broadcast
00:20:13.78\00:20:15.11
all over Lusaka,
the whole area in south,
00:20:15.14\00:20:18.15
so we have radio
programs, daily radio programs
00:20:18.18\00:20:21.28
twice a day broadcasting
the Adventist message...
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Yeah.
00:20:23.59\00:20:24.92
Preparing for these meetings
that'll happen in the year.
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So I'm talking to the pastors,
okay, in Lusaka, all of them.
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We have 300
churches there. We have...
00:20:31.49\00:20:33.46
200,000
meetings. I mean, members.
00:20:33.50\00:20:35.36
Members. Yeah.
00:20:35.40\00:20:36.73
200,000 members.
00:20:36.77\00:20:38.10
And a count of...
00:20:38.13\00:20:39.87
Two million. Two million.
00:20:39.90\00:20:41.30
Yeah, Lusaka.
00:20:41.34\00:20:42.67
It's big city. Yeah.
00:20:42.70\00:20:44.04
This is exciting stuff.
00:20:44.07\00:20:45.41
You're going to take
European pastors to Africa...
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Yeah. To preach meetings?
00:20:48.58\00:20:49.91
Yeah. First of
all, I love that idea.
00:20:49.94\00:20:53.21
That is beyond exciting.
But pastors and lay people.
00:20:53.25\00:20:55.12
Yeah. Great, great.
00:20:55.15\00:20:56.48
From Europe.
00:20:56.52\00:20:57.85
First of all, it'll give them
a chance to see people respond
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to the meetings... That's right.
00:21:00.56\00:21:01.89
Because having worked in Europe
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and, you know, it
is tough, you know.
00:21:03.29\00:21:04.96
So they're going
to get large crowds.
00:21:04.99\00:21:06.33
Yeah.
00:21:06.36\00:21:07.70
That'll be a rush,
and that's brilliant.
00:21:07.73\00:21:09.06
That is just brilliant.
I'm really excited about that.
00:21:09.10\00:21:10.80
And that's going
to take place when?
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A year from this
coming June, so 2018 in June?
00:21:12.60\00:21:16.37
June 8.
00:21:16.40\00:21:17.74
June 8. Okay.
00:21:17.77\00:21:19.11
We'll be there. See I
told you, indecipherable.
00:21:19.14\00:21:20.48
Yeah, she is.
00:21:20.51\00:21:22.78
So will they go over
before to have any pre-meetings
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or anything to sort
of get them warmed up?
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Yes, the radio is
going to do all of that.
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Okay.
00:21:28.22\00:21:29.55
We're working with
churches and the lay people.
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See, it's actually we
just come and help at the end
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because they
will do all the work.
00:21:33.09\00:21:34.49
There are these small groups,
there'll be Bible studies,
00:21:34.52\00:21:36.12
community
outreach, ADRA project,
00:21:36.16\00:21:38.13
all kinds of
things, prayer meetings.
00:21:38.16\00:21:40.50
And they'll continue
doing all these different events
00:21:40.53\00:21:43.67
preparing for our
meetings when we come there.
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So that's what the Total Member
Involvement side is, you see.
00:21:45.57\00:21:48.57
And so I'm talking to
the pastors and I said,
00:21:48.60\00:21:51.07
"You know, you
have 300 churches here
00:21:51.11\00:21:53.21
and I have 100 pastors
00:21:53.24\00:21:54.98
and lay people
coming from Europe.
00:21:55.01\00:21:56.34
Can you do 100
meetings next year?"
00:21:56.38\00:21:58.55
And they said,
"Yeah, we can do 100."
00:21:58.58\00:22:01.08
I said, "Could you do 300
because you have 300 churches,
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one at each church?"
00:22:03.99\00:22:05.32
And they looked at
each other and they said,
00:22:05.35\00:22:06.69
"We could do 450."
00:22:06.72\00:22:08.06
And I said, "What
about 500? Could you do 500?"
00:22:08.09\00:22:11.76
And they said...
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And the Union
President stands up and he says,
00:22:13.16\00:22:14.50
"That's what I was
thinking, we can do 500."
00:22:14.53\00:22:16.23
Amen and amen.
00:22:16.26\00:22:17.60
And then he
leaves and he's outside.
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Now this is one
city, just one city.
00:22:19.93\00:22:22.44
Yeah.
00:22:22.47\00:22:23.81
Seriously we're not
talking about the country,
00:22:23.84\00:22:25.17
we're talking of
one city. No, one city.
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Just the city of
Lusaka, just Lusaka.
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And so the pastors begin
to talk amongst themselves
00:22:28.41\00:22:31.11
and they said,
"Tell the Union President
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we can do a 1000."
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Wow.
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For the first time ever
1000 evangelistic meetings
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all at the same time.
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In one city. That's right.
00:22:39.85\00:22:41.72
And there we're
going to be teaching them
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to do different kinds of things
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like Facebook Live,
how you can do that?
00:22:45.96\00:22:47.76
Yes.
00:22:47.80\00:22:49.13
Facebook Live and set it up
00:22:49.16\00:22:50.50
so that everyone can be involved
00:22:50.53\00:22:51.87
and people that can't
maybe attend the actual meeting,
00:22:51.90\00:22:53.64
they can attend,
you know, in their home,
00:22:53.67\00:22:57.21
or you can forward it
and invite other friends
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or family that
don't live in the area
00:22:59.47\00:23:00.81
and it just
spreads like wildfire.
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Seriously.
00:23:02.21\00:23:03.55
And we're going to
be really developing
00:23:03.58\00:23:04.91
AWR's social media platform
00:23:04.95\00:23:06.98
and so we're
looking for that online.
00:23:07.02\00:23:09.35
You know, posting a variety
of events and different things
00:23:09.38\00:23:13.02
where we're
traveling and different stories
00:23:13.05\00:23:14.96
that we are going
to be reporting on.
00:23:14.99\00:23:16.73
I'm heading to Katmandu
here in a couple of weeks
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and so, yeah, I'll
be looking for that,
00:23:18.73\00:23:21.23
and join us on Facebook.
00:23:21.26\00:23:22.60
I'm sorry, it is no
accident or coincidence
00:23:22.63\00:23:24.17
that you are TMI
and AWR at the same time
00:23:24.20\00:23:27.80
because they work
hand-in-hand so well.
00:23:27.84\00:23:29.37
It's a natural fit. It is.
00:23:29.40\00:23:30.74
It is natural. Yeah.
00:23:30.77\00:23:32.11
Yeah, absolutely.
00:23:32.14\00:23:33.48
We'll also teach them
to do YouTube evangelism.
00:23:33.51\00:23:36.38
We have a friend over in Europe.
00:23:36.41\00:23:37.75
He is in Poland.
00:23:37.78\00:23:39.11
He's got a long story about...
00:23:39.15\00:23:40.75
Greg is his name and he is
going to come and teach them
00:23:40.78\00:23:43.05
to do Facebook evangelism.
00:23:43.08\00:23:44.52
He's learned this himself,
00:23:44.55\00:23:46.35
so that he
pushed together programs
00:23:46.39\00:23:47.89
and does it on YouTube.
00:23:47.92\00:23:49.89
This last month, he
had 800,000 people watch.
00:23:49.92\00:23:53.83
Wow. Awesome.
00:23:53.86\00:23:55.20
So he's going to
become a part of AWR.
00:23:55.23\00:23:56.56
I love the idea of aggressively
using what's out there.
00:23:56.60\00:24:00.47
You know, lots of them
and most, what's in your hand?
00:24:00.50\00:24:02.20
Facebook.
00:24:02.24\00:24:05.31
Well, and cell
phones. And YouTube, yeah.
00:24:05.34\00:24:07.61
Cell phones. Yes.
00:24:07.64\00:24:09.24
Cell phone evangelism.
00:24:09.28\00:24:10.61
We're going to do...
00:24:10.65\00:24:11.98
You never heard of
this before, I had neither.
00:24:12.01\00:24:13.35
It's awesome.
Cell phone evangelism.
00:24:13.38\00:24:16.55
There is this guy, he started
cell phone church in Namibia,
00:24:16.58\00:24:21.02
he's Afrikaans,
sorry, in Afrikaans.
00:24:21.06\00:24:23.93
And there are Afrikaans people
in Europe, all over the US,
00:24:23.96\00:24:26.19
and mainly in South Africa
on farms or the Dutch people.
00:24:26.23\00:24:30.57
And so he started doing church.
00:24:30.60\00:24:32.60
Sabbath school,
lesson study, church,
00:24:32.63\00:24:35.34
everything on Sabbath
mornings with the cell phone.
00:24:35.37\00:24:39.17
Whatsapp. Whatsapp, yeah.
00:24:39.21\00:24:42.54
And then...
00:24:42.58\00:24:44.15
Oh, this is an incredible story.
00:24:44.18\00:24:46.58
I mean, it's
amazing how God works.
00:24:46.61\00:24:50.59
So we're in
Lusaka and we've just had
00:24:50.62\00:24:53.89
this big meeting with
the pastors and leadership
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.49
and they've said we are
going to do 1000 meetings.
00:24:56.52\00:24:59.33
And it's
evening and the next day
00:24:59.36\00:25:01.36
we're going to Livingstone,
00:25:01.40\00:25:02.73
but we don't have a
hotel reserved there.
00:25:02.76\00:25:05.60
And so I said to Duane,
00:25:05.63\00:25:06.97
"Oh, we better,
you know, get a hotel."
00:25:07.00\00:25:09.70
So he goes on
Expedia and we always stay
00:25:09.74\00:25:12.54
at this one hotel, Protea.
00:25:12.57\00:25:15.24
You know, we just show up
and we've always had a room.
00:25:15.28\00:25:20.12
But this time, he's on
Expedia and there is no room.
00:25:20.15\00:25:23.62
And I said, "Just call them."
00:25:23.65\00:25:24.99
I was looking all
the hotels on Expedia
00:25:25.02\00:25:26.99
and the rooms are
going, bang, bang, bang.
00:25:27.02\00:25:28.82
"Just call them."
00:25:28.86\00:25:30.83
And there wasn't a room.
00:25:30.86\00:25:32.89
And so it comes along
to this name of a place,
00:25:32.93\00:25:36.80
Taita Falcon Lodge.
00:25:36.83\00:25:38.77
We found it one
room. That's about.
00:25:38.80\00:25:40.74
Way just out of town.
00:25:40.77\00:25:43.77
I mean, you cannot believe
what it's like to get there.
00:25:43.81\00:25:46.84
It's a nice place.
00:25:46.88\00:25:48.51
But here you're on
this road for an hour
00:25:48.54\00:25:51.48
and it's just terrible potholes
and bounces and up and down
00:25:51.51\00:25:54.98
and you're
saying, there's a song
00:25:55.02\00:25:57.22
some of the
Christians in South Africa sing,
00:25:57.25\00:26:00.06
wai, wai, wai,
wai, wai, wai, wai...
00:26:00.09\00:26:03.29
And so, I don't wanna hear.
00:26:03.32\00:26:06.39
And I have to put on my
seatbelt to stay in place.
00:26:06.43\00:26:09.86
I mean, you're
bouncing here and there.
00:26:09.90\00:26:12.13
It was, it was amazing.
00:26:12.17\00:26:14.44
So we get there and these people
00:26:14.47\00:26:17.41
from South Africa
are running this hotel.
00:26:17.44\00:26:19.91
And then the next morning,
they're very nice to us,
00:26:19.94\00:26:21.94
they take us in the town.
00:26:21.98\00:26:23.31
We'll stay all day, we
don't want to go back and forth.
00:26:23.35\00:26:27.92
And we meet with the pastors,
00:26:27.95\00:26:29.28
we're organizing
the meetings also
00:26:29.32\00:26:30.65
in Livingstone that's where,
00:26:30.69\00:26:32.02
you and Irma are coming in 2018,
00:26:32.05\00:26:34.06
there in Livingstone in June.
00:26:34.09\00:26:36.93
Then ride in that back.
00:26:36.96\00:26:40.40
And so we're talking
with him organizing this,
00:26:40.43\00:26:43.16
then we go back over
the rough road again.
00:26:43.20\00:26:45.27
The next morning we're leaving.
00:26:45.30\00:26:46.63
And so, Kathy,
you're talking to...
00:26:46.67\00:26:48.47
I talked to Antoinette,
00:26:48.50\00:26:50.74
the female part
of the management,
00:26:50.77\00:26:54.31
she and her husband run it.
00:26:54.34\00:26:55.94
And I'm talking to
Antoinette, and Antoinette says,
00:26:55.98\00:26:58.78
"How did your
meeting go with your pastors
00:26:58.81\00:27:01.02
and leadership last night?"
00:27:01.05\00:27:02.48
Nice, you know, I
didn't remember us
00:27:02.52\00:27:04.42
even mentioning that.
00:27:04.45\00:27:06.35
And she said, "Oh."
00:27:06.39\00:27:07.72
I said, "Oh, it
was great, great."
00:27:07.76\00:27:10.23
And she said, "You know what,
00:27:10.26\00:27:12.29
I've been studying
Daniel and Revelation."
00:27:12.33\00:27:15.26
My soul.
00:27:15.30\00:27:16.67
And I said, "Really?"
00:27:16.70\00:27:18.53
Here she is
sitting there, you know,
00:27:18.57\00:27:19.90
with not looking, yeah, anyway.
00:27:19.93\00:27:23.91
And she said, "Yes."
00:27:23.94\00:27:26.14
And I was telling
my husband, you know,
00:27:26.17\00:27:27.98
we were brought up all
wrong, Saturday is the Sabbath.
00:27:28.01\00:27:31.55
And he says, "I know."
00:27:31.58\00:27:33.48
And she's like she is
so shocked to hear that.
00:27:33.52\00:27:38.02
And so then the pastor
comes to pick us up and he says,
00:27:38.05\00:27:42.32
"You need to have
an evangelistic meeting
00:27:42.36\00:27:44.66
in the nearby village."
00:27:44.69\00:27:46.19
And Antoinette says,
"That would be wonderful,
00:27:46.23\00:27:49.66
just wonderful."
00:27:49.70\00:27:51.03
And when we come. Yeah.
00:27:51.07\00:27:52.90
And so I get the
contact information
00:27:52.93\00:27:58.51
from her about the
person that's giving here
00:27:58.54\00:28:01.18
these lessons on a Whatsapp.
00:28:01.21\00:28:03.08
On the cell
phone. On the cell phone.
00:28:03.11\00:28:05.55
And how can he
do, how can he have...
00:28:05.58\00:28:08.98
It's phenomenal, his
name is Neville Nevilson.
00:28:09.02\00:28:12.62
And so we go back
home to the States.
00:28:12.65\00:28:16.22
And I call him,
I get on the phone
00:28:16.26\00:28:17.59
and I'm talking
to him in Namibia.
00:28:17.63\00:28:18.96
He's going to be...
00:28:18.99\00:28:20.33
We just have worked it
out with some equipment.
00:28:20.36\00:28:21.73
He's going to be
Adventist World Radio programmer
00:28:21.76\00:28:26.74
and he will have a new program,
00:28:26.77\00:28:28.40
a new ministry on
cell phone evangelism.
00:28:28.44\00:28:31.37
Amen.
00:28:31.41\00:28:32.74
But get this, he
signed up to be a preacher
00:28:32.77\00:28:37.51
in Eastern Europe in Georgia.
00:28:37.55\00:28:38.88
When we're in Romania...
00:28:38.91\00:28:40.32
Somehow, he heard about it
and so he ends up in Georgia.
00:28:40.35\00:28:43.45
He preaches his first meeting
before he's just doing church.
00:28:43.49\00:28:46.59
So he goes back home, he says,
00:28:46.62\00:28:48.32
"I'm going to do
evangelism on the cell phone."
00:28:48.36\00:28:51.23
He's doing cell
phone evangelism now.
00:28:51.26\00:28:53.73
Had his first
meeting, had 150 decisions
00:28:53.76\00:28:56.60
for baptism in South Africa.
00:28:56.63\00:28:57.97
Amen.
00:28:58.00\00:28:59.33
And that's how
Antoinette is learning about
00:28:59.37\00:29:02.67
Daniel and Revelation
because her Aunt and Uncle
00:29:02.70\00:29:05.87
are Seventh-Day Adventists.
00:29:05.91\00:29:07.24
Every Sabbath morning, her
uncle sends up this message
00:29:07.28\00:29:11.91
something about the Bible,
00:29:11.95\00:29:13.58
and she starts asking questions.
00:29:13.62\00:29:16.28
And he said, "Oh, I
need to put you in contact
00:29:16.32\00:29:19.22
with Neville Nevilson."
00:29:19.25\00:29:22.12
Isn't God amazing?
00:29:22.16\00:29:23.49
I mean, the chances...
00:29:23.53\00:29:24.86
He's connecting all
of us. That's right.
00:29:24.89\00:29:26.53
Yeah, yes, around the world.
00:29:26.56\00:29:27.90
In a whole new way. Oh, yeah.
00:29:27.93\00:29:29.26
He's using every
which way possible.
00:29:29.30\00:29:30.67
So we can use cell
phone, just a cell phone.
00:29:30.70\00:29:33.20
Who would ever think it? Yeah.
00:29:33.23\00:29:35.50
You cannot be
around this bunch along
00:29:35.54\00:29:38.94
without getting affected.
00:29:38.97\00:29:40.31
You just...
00:29:40.34\00:29:42.84
Unless your skin is just
hard, it's going to get through
00:29:42.88\00:29:45.71
because first of all, the
Lord is doing so many things
00:29:45.75\00:29:48.65
and it must be so nice to be you
00:29:48.68\00:29:50.79
because you are
on a cutting ends
00:29:50.82\00:29:52.15
of lot of this stuff.
00:29:52.19\00:29:53.52
And you're seeing a lot of this,
00:29:53.56\00:29:54.89
TMI is a God
breathing whose time has come.
00:29:54.92\00:29:56.26
Amen. It is. It is.
00:29:56.29\00:29:57.63
And as I said a moment
ago, the fusion of TMI and AWR
00:29:57.66\00:30:02.96
in you as a
person is a natural fit
00:30:03.00\00:30:05.63
because you get to into weave
00:30:05.67\00:30:07.30
a lot of this
stuff and get to see it.
00:30:07.34\00:30:09.60
And then you've
added Lady Cami here.
00:30:09.64\00:30:12.64
So it's a nice team
00:30:12.67\00:30:14.28
and you're doing
some wonderful things
00:30:14.31\00:30:15.64
and seeing some
wonderful things.
00:30:15.68\00:30:17.98
Do we need to go back to Romania
00:30:18.01\00:30:19.38
little before our
time gets away from us?
00:30:19.41\00:30:20.75
Right, let's go to Romania.
00:30:20.78\00:30:22.12
Maybe we got to
look at that video first.
00:30:22.15\00:30:23.49
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:23.52\00:30:24.85
This is the Romania video.
00:30:24.89\00:30:26.22
And this is just
a wonderful time.
00:30:26.25\00:30:27.59
We'll talk about it on
the other side of the video.
00:30:27.62\00:30:29.02
Okay.
00:30:29.06\00:30:30.39
It all started one day at work.
00:30:56.38\00:30:58.72
As I was switching
lines at the train yard,
00:30:58.75\00:31:01.16
I saw a co-worker listening
to the radio on his cell phone.
00:31:01.19\00:31:04.99
I reached from my phone
and began searching too.
00:31:05.03\00:31:08.13
That was when I
found Adventist World Radio
00:31:08.16\00:31:10.70
and became a faithful listener.
00:31:10.73\00:31:12.40
I heard
preaching from the Bible,
00:31:15.57\00:31:17.61
learned about the Sabbath
and many other new things.
00:31:17.64\00:31:20.78
A strong desire for
truth from God's Word was born
00:31:20.81\00:31:23.65
in my soul and my prayer became.
00:31:23.68\00:31:25.88
I want to know more God.
00:31:25.91\00:31:28.42
Peace began to fill my heart
but my home was in turmoil.
00:31:28.45\00:31:34.66
My wife and two
daughters were confused
00:31:34.69\00:31:36.99
since I had taught my
family to Pentecostal faith
00:31:37.03\00:31:40.00
that was now bringing home
new and contradicting truths.
00:31:40.03\00:31:43.43
My wife refused to even
visiting Adventist church
00:31:43.47\00:31:46.10
with me.
00:31:46.13\00:31:47.47
So I went alone
that first Sabbath.
00:31:47.50\00:31:50.11
I was welcomed so warmly
and felt genuine Christian love
00:31:50.14\00:31:53.68
unlike I had ever
experienced before.
00:31:53.71\00:31:56.78
Eventually, my family
agreed to let the pastor visit
00:31:56.81\00:31:59.68
and help me
answer their questions.
00:31:59.71\00:32:02.08
As soon as he arrived,
the questions began to flow.
00:32:02.12\00:32:05.92
Before long our whole
family began baptismal classes
00:32:05.95\00:32:09.69
and in May of
2015, my wife and I
00:32:09.72\00:32:12.63
along with our oldest
daughter were baptized
00:32:12.66\00:32:14.90
into the
Seventh-day Adventist church.
00:32:14.93\00:32:17.00
A few days ago,
our younger daughter
00:32:17.03\00:32:18.83
was finally baptized.
00:32:18.87\00:32:20.37
We are praising God.
00:32:20.40\00:32:21.74
Since being baptized,
I had become very active
00:32:24.94\00:32:27.74
in our local church
even preaching occasionally.
00:32:27.78\00:32:31.31
I continue to spread the Word
about Adventist World Radio.
00:32:31.35\00:32:35.12
My wife says I
can't keep quiet about it
00:32:35.15\00:32:37.49
and it's probably true.
00:32:37.52\00:32:39.62
Thanks to the work of AWR.
00:32:39.65\00:32:41.42
We are now a united family
waiting for the soon return
00:32:41.46\00:32:44.66
of Christ, our Lord.
00:32:44.69\00:32:46.09
What a great personal testimony.
00:32:49.53\00:32:51.13
Wow, imagine
listening to the radio.
00:32:51.17\00:32:53.64
In Romania it's really exciting
00:32:53.67\00:32:55.74
because you can
take your cell phone
00:32:55.77\00:32:57.54
and listen to the radio.
00:32:57.57\00:32:59.17
And you listen
and listen and listen,
00:32:59.21\00:33:00.78
actually coming out of
communism, Eli or Elijah,
00:33:00.81\00:33:04.98
he decided, he want
to become a Christian.
00:33:05.01\00:33:07.42
So he went, he found
an evangelical church.
00:33:07.45\00:33:09.28
He went there, he
read the Bible and he read
00:33:09.32\00:33:11.25
where Jesus was
baptized in the River Jordan.
00:33:11.29\00:33:13.59
And he said to the people,
00:33:13.62\00:33:14.96
I want to be
baptized like Jesus.
00:33:14.99\00:33:16.32
They said, "We don't do that."
00:33:16.36\00:33:17.79
So he went to
Pentecostal Church,
00:33:17.83\00:33:19.49
they baptized him,
00:33:19.53\00:33:20.86
he actually kind of
raised up the church.
00:33:20.90\00:33:23.23
And it was really exciting
and then he started listening
00:33:23.26\00:33:25.63
to his radio at work.
00:33:25.67\00:33:27.00
Wow.
00:33:27.04\00:33:28.37
On his cell phone because
he was a switcher, you know,
00:33:28.40\00:33:30.24
as the trains
came in so at times.
00:33:30.27\00:33:31.71
So at times.
00:33:31.74\00:33:33.07
Yeah, so he
listened, listened, listened
00:33:33.11\00:33:34.44
and then he got excited
about the Sabbath and prophecy.
00:33:34.48\00:33:37.95
Wow.
00:33:37.98\00:33:39.31
Gave his heart to Jesus,
showed up at church one day
00:33:39.35\00:33:41.05
and want to be baptized.
00:33:41.08\00:33:42.42
And the pastor says,
"I can't baptize you."
00:33:42.45\00:33:44.82
Why?
00:33:44.85\00:33:46.19
"Because you had
to be studied a bit,
00:33:46.22\00:33:47.92
you had to learn
what we believe."
00:33:47.96\00:33:49.29
He said, "Ask me."
00:33:49.32\00:33:52.86
Awesome.
00:33:52.89\00:33:54.66
We get some of that at 3ABN too,
00:33:54.70\00:33:56.03
people walk in our
church and they said...
00:33:56.06\00:33:57.40
Yes, yes. Oh, yeah.
00:33:57.43\00:33:58.77
I'm ready to run in water.
00:33:58.80\00:34:00.14
And I said, "Well,
you got to know first."
00:34:00.17\00:34:01.50
Believe me, I know.
00:34:01.54\00:34:03.27
That's right. Yeah.
00:34:03.30\00:34:04.64
I've baptized some
of the people from 3ABN.
00:34:04.67\00:34:06.04
Yeah, that's
powerful. That is powerful.
00:34:06.07\00:34:07.68
That happened in Arizona.
00:34:07.71\00:34:09.08
Actually, there
was a couple there
00:34:09.11\00:34:11.25
that learned
about Sabbath on 3ABN.
00:34:11.28\00:34:13.05
Yeah, that happened
a lot. Praise the Lord.
00:34:13.08\00:34:14.98
That's so thrilling.
00:34:15.02\00:34:16.65
I want to go to the other video
00:34:16.69\00:34:18.05
before our time
move away for us.
00:34:18.09\00:34:19.42
'Cause this is the one
actually does of Romania per se.
00:34:19.45\00:34:20.79
Right. Okay,
let's go to that one.
00:34:20.82\00:34:22.16
Let's run that video just now.
00:34:22.19\00:34:23.53
This is an orthodox stronghold
00:34:33.94\00:34:35.90
from what people are telling me.
00:34:35.94\00:34:38.77
Pastors had said to us
before, "It won't work here.
00:34:38.81\00:34:42.31
It worked back in the '90s,
00:34:42.34\00:34:44.08
right after the
fall of communism
00:34:44.11\00:34:46.41
but it won't work here.
00:34:46.45\00:34:48.38
People will not come."
00:34:48.42\00:34:50.89
What does really work
in a place like Romania?
00:34:50.92\00:34:56.02
This is really
putting TMI to the test.
00:34:56.06\00:34:59.49
People say, "Oh,
evangelism doesn't work,
00:34:59.53\00:35:01.66
it's not going to work here."
00:35:01.70\00:35:03.13
Well, it's working here.
00:35:08.30\00:35:10.67
We're having a
revival in Romania.
00:35:10.71\00:35:12.97
No one ever thought
this would happen here.
00:35:13.01\00:35:14.74
Visitors coming every night,
00:35:14.78\00:35:16.75
more and more
people handed bills
00:35:16.78\00:35:18.28
throughout the week.
00:35:18.31\00:35:19.65
It shows that there
are secrets of truth
00:35:19.68\00:35:21.58
even here in Eastern Europe.
00:35:21.62\00:35:24.72
It's so exciting the way
people are gathering together
00:35:24.75\00:35:28.46
in over 4,000
sites in 6 countries
00:35:28.49\00:35:32.33
presenting the
precious Advent message.
00:35:32.36\00:35:37.30
Visitors are
hearing about the meetings
00:35:37.33\00:35:39.00
through many different ways.
00:35:39.03\00:35:40.37
People see it on
TV, they hear on a radio
00:35:40.40\00:35:42.57
when they're
driving in their cars,
00:35:42.60\00:35:44.17
when they are on the buses,
when they are in the taxis.
00:35:44.21\00:35:47.01
People have just
supported in a marvelous way
00:35:47.04\00:35:50.08
and visitors
have come in droves.
00:35:50.11\00:35:53.95
We are seeing such a
revival with these meetings,
00:35:53.98\00:35:56.25
it's unbelievable.
00:35:56.28\00:35:57.92
A revival of not
only the church members,
00:35:57.95\00:36:00.16
but the pastors and the elders.
00:36:00.19\00:36:02.02
They want to become
more involved in evangelism.
00:36:02.06\00:36:04.79
So many of our lay people
are involved in presenting
00:36:04.83\00:36:09.20
in homes, and
storefronts, and churches.
00:36:09.23\00:36:12.93
They have even built
houses through ADRA projects.
00:36:12.97\00:36:15.90
They've had all
night prayer meetings,
00:36:15.94\00:36:17.41
people are praying
every night in the churches
00:36:17.44\00:36:19.27
since we have the meetings.
00:36:19.31\00:36:21.44
God is working in amazing ways.
00:36:21.48\00:36:23.98
And, you know, it's not
just changing people's lives,
00:36:24.01\00:36:27.08
it's changing our lives.
00:36:27.12\00:36:29.28
Jesus worked within my heart.
00:36:29.32\00:36:30.75
I'm just in so much of a
closer relationship with God
00:36:30.79\00:36:34.22
just through these messages.
00:36:34.26\00:36:35.72
When I see people raising
their hands for the appealings,
00:36:35.76\00:36:39.66
when I see people
smiling, and when I see people
00:36:39.69\00:36:43.77
impressed by the
truth by the Word of God,
00:36:43.80\00:36:47.27
that really
changed my own life too.
00:36:47.30\00:36:49.54
And every night when I preach,
this truth come into my mind
00:36:49.57\00:36:53.58
and it reassured my
hope of Jesus' second coming.
00:36:53.61\00:36:57.85
I've had an
experience here in Bucharest
00:37:05.22\00:37:08.12
and I've done many
evangelistic campaigns before.
00:37:08.16\00:37:10.76
In Europe, this is different.
00:37:10.79\00:37:13.16
There is something about
the whole territory uniting
00:37:13.19\00:37:17.27
at the same moment.
00:37:17.30\00:37:18.63
It's as if the forces
of darkness have less power
00:37:18.67\00:37:21.60
during this time
and God can just step in
00:37:21.64\00:37:24.87
and inspired people.
00:37:24.91\00:37:26.68
Every activity, every
act of compassion matters.
00:37:30.35\00:37:33.68
Every leaflet given,
every refuge that is helped,
00:37:33.72\00:37:37.99
all of this is
Total Member Involvement.
00:37:38.02\00:37:41.39
I believe that the
latter rain of the Holy Spirit
00:37:41.42\00:37:44.03
is going to fall very soon.
00:37:44.06\00:37:49.06
The world is
ready to hear the truth.
00:37:49.10\00:37:50.90
Are we ready to speak it?
00:37:50.93\00:37:52.37
Are we ready to
proclaim it, to be proud of it?
00:37:52.40\00:37:55.10
To speak it like we
believe it because we should.
00:37:55.14\00:37:58.84
If you make yourself available,
God will work for, with to,
00:37:58.87\00:38:02.94
and through you to do things
that you could not imagine.
00:38:02.98\00:38:07.18
I hope each one of
you will be involved
00:38:07.22\00:38:10.09
with God's last day outreach
00:38:10.12\00:38:12.25
so that Jesus can
return in the very near future.
00:38:12.29\00:38:15.56
Powerful.
00:38:23.40\00:38:24.73
Kathy, I want to go
to you first I think
00:38:24.77\00:38:26.10
and then to Cami, and
then we'll come back to you,
00:38:26.13\00:38:27.47
to his lordship here.
00:38:27.50\00:38:28.84
But you were so much
involved in the calls,
00:38:28.87\00:38:31.37
and the
computers, and the fixing,
00:38:31.41\00:38:32.74
and the logistics,
00:38:32.77\00:38:34.11
your impression of
a meeting like Romania
00:38:34.14\00:38:35.81
because that was
a singular event.
00:38:35.84\00:38:38.65
You have to do so
much of the leg work
00:38:38.68\00:38:41.18
and the groundwork.
00:38:41.22\00:38:42.55
Do you get a
chance to get the feel of
00:38:42.58\00:38:43.95
what's going on and,
00:38:43.99\00:38:45.35
you know, that joy
of being part of TMI?
00:38:45.39\00:38:47.06
Absolutely.
00:38:47.09\00:38:48.72
So many times I get phone calls.
00:38:48.76\00:38:50.99
So I can talk to the
people, I don't know them
00:38:51.03\00:38:54.10
but to the people
that have signed up
00:38:54.13\00:38:56.26
to go and preach.
00:38:56.30\00:38:57.77
And so when we had
a group orientation
00:38:57.80\00:39:02.00
in Bucharest, at the Rin hotel,
00:39:02.04\00:39:05.01
we were all
together over 200 of us,
00:39:05.04\00:39:07.78
it was so phenomenal.
00:39:07.81\00:39:09.74
And so you get to see people
that you've been talking to
00:39:09.78\00:39:14.58
but face to face.
00:39:14.62\00:39:16.48
And then we go out and
go to the different sites,
00:39:16.52\00:39:21.09
and hear the people
preach and it is so exciting.
00:39:21.12\00:39:25.09
I mean, I love
that I have this work.
00:39:25.13\00:39:29.50
I mean, if you can call it work.
00:39:29.53\00:39:32.70
It's fun. No, it's work.
00:39:32.73\00:39:34.07
It's rewarding but it is work.
00:39:34.10\00:39:36.84
And, Cami, of course,
you were a group leader.
00:39:36.87\00:39:38.77
Yes. And you also preach.
00:39:38.81\00:39:40.18
I did.
00:39:40.21\00:39:41.54
Yeah, just the flavor,
the stories in your heart.
00:39:41.58\00:39:43.78
I've got to share a
story about Stephanie.
00:39:43.81\00:39:46.08
Yeah. That's a good stuff.
00:39:46.11\00:39:47.45
That's in the
last picture I think.
00:39:47.48\00:39:48.82
Yeah.
00:39:48.85\00:39:50.19
Okay, let's rewind
a little bit to 2013.
00:39:50.22\00:39:54.09
I'm preaching in Sedalia,
Missouri in evangelistic...
00:39:54.12\00:39:56.89
Yes, there is Stephanie.
00:39:56.93\00:39:58.39
And I'm preaching
evangelistic series
00:39:58.43\00:40:00.06
in Sedalia, Missouri.
00:40:00.10\00:40:01.80
And, you know, I'm
pretty new at this myself
00:40:01.83\00:40:03.67
and I'm so eager and
excited to see anybody coming in
00:40:03.70\00:40:07.17
and I noticed this
young woman come in.
00:40:07.20\00:40:09.90
And she sits down
and she immediately
00:40:09.94\00:40:11.67
starts taking
just notes so furiously
00:40:11.71\00:40:14.08
like everything off the
screen and what I'm saying.
00:40:14.11\00:40:16.81
And I could tell she had
a genuine sincere interest
00:40:16.85\00:40:19.18
in the Word of God.
00:40:19.21\00:40:20.72
And come to find
out she had been...
00:40:20.75\00:40:22.88
she came into the meeting
off of a flyer she found.
00:40:22.92\00:40:25.79
Okay, so the Holy Spirit
just works through everything.
00:40:25.82\00:40:27.92
Amen.
00:40:27.96\00:40:29.29
And yeah, and so she came
in and she had been researching
00:40:29.32\00:40:32.19
different denominations
and truly trying to find,
00:40:32.23\00:40:34.90
you know, what she
could really believe in.
00:40:34.93\00:40:37.83
And so after that series,
00:40:37.87\00:40:41.17
she was
baptized, beautiful thing.
00:40:41.20\00:40:43.17
I was able to witness that.
00:40:43.20\00:40:44.61
And there's a lot of
details within there.
00:40:44.64\00:40:46.84
But what's exciting
that I want to get to is that
00:40:46.88\00:40:49.14
when I got back
from Rwanda with TMI,
00:40:49.18\00:40:52.05
I shared with
Stephanie 'cause I stay in touch
00:40:52.08\00:40:54.42
with a lot of the people
that have attended my series.
00:40:54.45\00:40:57.32
And I shared with
her all about Rwanda
00:40:57.35\00:40:59.09
and how amazing it was
00:40:59.12\00:41:00.49
and I showed her some
video clips I'd taken.
00:41:00.52\00:41:02.96
And she's, "You
know what, Cami..."
00:41:02.99\00:41:04.39
And she goes, "I
don't know if I could do it.
00:41:04.43\00:41:06.33
I really don't
know if I could do it.
00:41:06.36\00:41:08.16
But I want to, I
want to be used by God.
00:41:08.20\00:41:10.37
I want to
preach just like that."
00:41:10.40\00:41:13.50
And I said, "You know what,
Stephanie, God can use you.
00:41:13.54\00:41:16.34
You can do this."
00:41:16.37\00:41:17.71
And I said,
"Just pray about it."
00:41:17.74\00:41:19.37
And she did and
she raised some funds
00:41:19.41\00:41:23.24
and at the last moment,
00:41:23.28\00:41:24.61
God brought in a huge
donor to donate funds for her
00:41:24.65\00:41:27.98
to be able to go
which was amazing.
00:41:28.02\00:41:31.05
And so she preached up
in Northeastern Romania
00:41:31.09\00:41:34.76
and to witness somebody
00:41:34.79\00:41:36.52
because I
stepped out of my shell.
00:41:36.56\00:41:38.26
Yes. Preached in
Sedalia, Missouri.
00:41:38.29\00:41:41.30
She came, she is now
preaching in, you know,
00:41:41.33\00:41:44.53
Northeastern Romania to
an obvious church of people
00:41:44.57\00:41:47.87
that she's
getting baptisms from.
00:41:47.90\00:41:49.67
And, you know, God
just connects us all.
00:41:49.70\00:41:52.01
It's connecting
the dots. Oh, yes.
00:41:52.04\00:41:53.38
But what's really
amazing is that when we got home
00:41:53.41\00:41:57.61
she told me, she
said, "Cami, I don't know
00:41:57.65\00:42:00.25
if I can go back to
my job, my desk job,
00:42:00.28\00:42:02.58
I really want to
do the Lord's work
00:42:02.62\00:42:04.42
in a bigger way.
00:42:04.45\00:42:05.79
I want Him to use me."
00:42:05.82\00:42:07.16
She caught the
evangelistic bug, you know.
00:42:07.19\00:42:10.09
And she said, "I'm going
to pray about it, you know,
00:42:10.13\00:42:12.29
if my husband..."
00:42:12.33\00:42:13.66
Now she's the only Seventh-day
Adventist within her household
00:42:13.70\00:42:15.40
or family at this point.
00:42:15.43\00:42:16.77
Oh, wow. At this point.
00:42:16.80\00:42:18.40
And so she's been
praying and, you know,
00:42:18.43\00:42:22.90
with her
permission posted on Facebook
00:42:22.94\00:42:24.77
the story of Stephanie of how,
00:42:24.81\00:42:26.41
you know, she
came to my meetings
00:42:26.44\00:42:27.78
and then now she's
preaching in Romania.
00:42:27.81\00:42:29.44
Well, I'm not
kidding, within a few minutes,
00:42:29.48\00:42:32.21
I get a call from Elder Roguery
00:42:32.25\00:42:34.98
out of Iowa Missouri Conference.
00:42:35.02\00:42:36.58
And he says, "I just saw
that posting on Facebook,
00:42:36.62\00:42:40.06
is Stephanie, like, would
she be ready for Bible work?"
00:42:40.09\00:42:42.99
I said, "Yes!
00:42:43.02\00:42:44.79
Oh, yes!"
00:42:44.83\00:42:46.53
And he goes, "Well,
how can I get hold of her?"
00:42:46.56\00:42:47.90
And I said, "Let me
take care of that right now."
00:42:47.93\00:42:50.37
So I text Stephanie and I
said, "Stephanie, are you up?"
00:42:50.40\00:42:53.23
And she wrote back, "Yes, I am."
00:42:53.27\00:42:54.80
I said, "I'm calling you."
00:42:54.84\00:42:56.17
So I give her a quick
call and she answers the phone,
00:42:56.20\00:42:58.07
she says, "Oh, wait,
before you say anything
00:42:58.11\00:42:59.44
I got to tell you,
00:42:59.47\00:43:00.81
I just had a
beautiful prayer time,
00:43:00.84\00:43:02.38
me and my husband,
we're on our knees,
00:43:02.41\00:43:04.35
and we just decided,
"Lord, I want to do your work.
00:43:04.38\00:43:07.62
I'm going to put in my notice
at my job and give you 30 days
00:43:07.65\00:43:10.85
to find me some kind of
way I could do your work.'"
00:43:10.89\00:43:14.16
Not necessary. I said, Steph...
00:43:14.19\00:43:15.52
One day. I said...
00:43:15.56\00:43:18.23
"Before they
call I will answer."
00:43:18.26\00:43:19.59
Yes.
00:43:19.63\00:43:20.96
Before you've even turned in...
00:43:21.00\00:43:22.33
Yes, the Lord has
answered your prayer.
00:43:22.36\00:43:23.70
And do you know that
she is doing Bible work
00:43:23.73\00:43:25.47
prepping all of Kansas City
00:43:25.50\00:43:26.84
for John
Bradshaw's meetings next year.
00:43:26.87\00:43:28.20
Next year.
00:43:28.24\00:43:29.57
Amen. Yeah.
00:43:29.60\00:43:30.94
It's incredible how God is
connecting every one and He,
00:43:30.97\00:43:32.81
you know, is using...
00:43:32.84\00:43:34.18
Can we bring that
picture of that guy
00:43:34.21\00:43:35.54
so I just want to see
that face again, yeah.
00:43:35.58\00:43:36.91
Yeah, this is
Stephanie. That's her.
00:43:36.95\00:43:38.41
Yeah. Bless her heart.
00:43:38.45\00:43:39.78
Precious, precious soul.
00:43:39.81\00:43:41.15
I should just... Praise God.
00:43:41.18\00:43:42.52
What a great testimony.
She is doing mighty work.
00:43:42.55\00:43:43.89
Yes. Is it wonderful?
00:43:43.92\00:43:45.25
Yes. Praise God.
00:43:45.29\00:43:46.62
Great story.
00:43:46.65\00:43:47.99
Duane, I want
to come back to you
00:43:48.02\00:43:49.36
because again
you're on the cutting edge,
00:43:49.39\00:43:50.73
you get to see so much of
this, so much is going on.
00:43:50.76\00:43:53.13
You are, if I let
the cat out of the bag
00:43:53.16\00:43:54.80
heading back to Romania
00:43:54.83\00:43:56.16
because something
big is about to happen.
00:43:56.20\00:43:57.87
Big baptisms
happened in Romania.
00:43:57.90\00:43:59.23
In couple of weeks.
Yeah, talk to us about that?
00:43:59.27\00:44:00.60
Yeah, we're excited
about that because in Romania
00:44:00.64\00:44:02.40
they don't baptize
people immediately,
00:44:02.44\00:44:03.77
they want to study with them in
00:44:03.81\00:44:05.14
the church,
it's norm, it's fine.
00:44:05.17\00:44:06.51
And so we had a
big baptism in Romania.
00:44:06.54\00:44:08.34
Wow. We don't know for sure.
00:44:08.38\00:44:10.01
Maybe close to 3000
people will be baptized.
00:44:10.05\00:44:12.21
Praise God. Awesome.
00:44:12.25\00:44:13.58
And I guess it's the 5th, is it?
00:44:13.62\00:44:14.95
June 3. June 3.
00:44:14.98\00:44:16.32
Yeah. We'll be back there.
00:44:16.35\00:44:17.69
For that country... Yeah.
00:44:17.72\00:44:19.05
That locked down and
the kind of opposition
00:44:19.09\00:44:20.96
that you know we got,
00:44:20.99\00:44:22.42
even while the
meetings are going on,
00:44:22.46\00:44:23.83
there was active
opposition to the meeting.
00:44:23.86\00:44:25.19
That's right. Oh, yeah.
00:44:25.23\00:44:26.63
You know, one of the
successes in Romania is
00:44:26.66\00:44:29.00
because of the wonderful,
wonderful TV and radio works.
00:44:29.03\00:44:32.63
You can drive across the country
00:44:32.67\00:44:35.60
and listen to our
stations all along
00:44:35.64\00:44:37.61
and they will never miss
a beat on the FM stations.
00:44:37.64\00:44:40.14
You can get on a
bus in Bucharest,
00:44:40.18\00:44:42.84
the bus driver will have
00:44:42.88\00:44:44.28
most likely AWR
on the bus listening.
00:44:44.31\00:44:47.38
So people are
hearing, hearing, hearing.
00:44:47.42\00:44:48.88
The taxi driver
does the same thing,
00:44:48.92\00:44:50.85
the cafe and the
restaurant does the same thing.
00:44:50.89\00:44:53.72
Just Sunday, yeah, Sunday,
Southeast England Conference
00:44:53.76\00:44:59.43
just voted to work with AWR,
we've helped them financially.
00:44:59.46\00:45:04.47
You know, London is a huge city.
00:45:04.50\00:45:06.74
Oh, yes. And
people are very secular.
00:45:06.77\00:45:09.97
And that's a whole
new frontier for us.
00:45:10.01\00:45:12.11
Yes. To reach the secular mind.
00:45:12.14\00:45:15.51
Sometimes we had thought that
what we should is go very easy,
00:45:15.54\00:45:19.78
soft, and build relationships.
00:45:19.81\00:45:22.72
Sam Nevis, you saw his picture,
00:45:22.75\00:45:24.19
we're talking to
him on the video.
00:45:24.22\00:45:25.62
Sam Nevis, communication,
00:45:25.65\00:45:26.99
associate communication director
00:45:27.02\00:45:28.46
of the general conference,
00:45:28.49\00:45:29.86
pastored there for 10 years.
00:45:29.89\00:45:31.39
And he was trying this
very soft, gentle approach.
00:45:31.43\00:45:34.20
His mommy would call
him every year in January,
00:45:34.23\00:45:36.93
"Sammy, did you
baptize anybody last year?"
00:45:36.97\00:45:40.47
"Mommy, you don't
understand, mommy."
00:45:40.50\00:45:42.27
He's telling...
Oh, yes, she does.
00:45:42.30\00:45:46.44
You better watch out
for those mommies as well.
00:45:46.47\00:45:49.54
This went on for 10
years and he said he was ready
00:45:49.58\00:45:52.08
to leave the
ministry, nothing happened.
00:45:52.11\00:45:55.38
And then he said,
I'm just going to preach,
00:45:55.42\00:45:59.35
he took the
Bible, started preaching
00:45:59.39\00:46:01.19
the prophetic Adventist message.
00:46:01.22\00:46:02.56
First year 17 were baptized.
Next year 20 were baptized.
00:46:02.59\00:46:05.29
Amen.
00:46:05.33\00:46:06.66
And he and Willy,
they both said to me,
00:46:06.70\00:46:08.50
if we can do this
radio station, make it,
00:46:08.53\00:46:10.80
this is unusual, make it a
prophetic Adventist station,
00:46:10.83\00:46:14.90
prophetic Adventist messages.
00:46:14.94\00:46:16.27
Oh, that is unusual. Yes.
00:46:16.30\00:46:17.67
We'll have health messages,
00:46:17.71\00:46:20.08
and we'll have
prophecy, prophecy.
00:46:20.11\00:46:21.44
Yeah.
00:46:21.48\00:46:22.81
They said to me, people
in their cars, you know,
00:46:22.84\00:46:25.85
it's incredible but
90% of the people in London
00:46:25.88\00:46:29.48
listen to the
radio 20 hours a week.
00:46:29.52\00:46:32.52
Wow, primetime.
00:46:32.55\00:46:33.89
That's a lot of
time listening to radio.
00:46:33.92\00:46:35.26
Yeah, so in their
cars they want to know
00:46:35.29\00:46:36.62
what's going to happen.
00:46:36.66\00:46:37.99
What is happening?
00:46:38.03\00:46:39.36
And so they are listening
and so we want to give them
00:46:39.39\00:46:41.26
an Adventist message,
00:46:41.30\00:46:42.63
and then invite
them, connect the dots.
00:46:42.66\00:46:44.00
Yeah.
00:46:44.03\00:46:45.37
Invite them to the
church for prophecy seminars,
00:46:45.40\00:46:46.74
invite them to
church for health seminars,
00:46:46.77\00:46:48.74
invite them to the churches.
00:46:48.77\00:46:50.11
And then they'll gently
study with us in the churches.
00:46:50.14\00:46:54.71
And then they will come
to evangelistic meetings
00:46:54.74\00:46:57.71
and be baptized.
00:46:57.75\00:46:59.08
We want to do
the same thing, CA,
00:46:59.11\00:47:00.75
we want to do the same thing
in a largest city on earth.
00:47:00.78\00:47:04.69
We're working right
now, and getting our license
00:47:04.72\00:47:06.55
and working on
radio program in Tokyo,
00:47:06.59\00:47:10.23
38 million people
there who don't know Jesus.
00:47:10.26\00:47:12.89
Don't know Jesus.
00:47:12.93\00:47:14.26
And so we're going to
do the health message.
00:47:14.30\00:47:15.63
Yup.
00:47:15.66\00:47:17.00
Health message for six months,
00:47:17.03\00:47:18.37
after that then we'll
invite the doctor will say,
00:47:18.40\00:47:21.70
"You know, " on the radio
00:47:21.74\00:47:24.01
"I've been telling
you how to stop smoking."
00:47:24.04\00:47:25.44
Smoking's a problem there.
00:47:25.47\00:47:26.98
I'm going to be at
such and such a location
00:47:27.01\00:47:28.61
in one of our churches in
Tokyo here tomorrow night.
00:47:28.64\00:47:30.91
I want you to come,
I want to help you."
00:47:30.95\00:47:32.81
Then they'll come to these
health seminars, nutrition,
00:47:32.85\00:47:35.98
cooking and health seminars,
depression and recovery.
00:47:36.02\00:47:38.75
They'll come to
these health seminars.
00:47:38.79\00:47:41.02
Then until for
several, several weeks,
00:47:41.06\00:47:42.89
and then they'll ask a question,
00:47:42.92\00:47:45.13
"Are there any of
these health principles
00:47:45.16\00:47:48.80
in the holy writings?"
00:47:48.83\00:47:50.47
Oh, yeah, you
know, the Quran has some,
00:47:50.50\00:47:52.63
Bible has lots and
Buddhists writings have some,
00:47:52.67\00:47:54.97
you look at some of those.
00:47:55.00\00:47:56.34
And they asked a
question, crazy things happening
00:47:56.37\00:47:59.27
in the world,
anything about prophecy,
00:47:59.31\00:48:02.08
end time events
in the holy writings.
00:48:02.11\00:48:04.81
Zero in every holy
writing except the Bible.
00:48:04.85\00:48:08.52
Except the Bible.
00:48:08.55\00:48:09.88
2000 prophecies. Yes.
00:48:09.92\00:48:11.25
"Well, let's look at
some of these prophecies
00:48:11.29\00:48:12.62
and see what's happening."
00:48:12.65\00:48:13.99
And then you lead them
into prophecies and then
00:48:14.02\00:48:15.69
year and year and a half,
well, just a year, I guess.
00:48:15.72\00:48:18.59
Yeah.
00:48:18.63\00:48:19.96
A year from right
now we'll be in Tokyo
00:48:20.00\00:48:21.33
for 130 evangelistic meetings.
00:48:21.36\00:48:23.06
We're prepared for
by all these outreach
00:48:23.10\00:48:25.63
with Adventist World Radio
in the largest city on earth.
00:48:25.67\00:48:28.44
I absolutely love it.
And then there's North Korea.
00:48:28.47\00:48:31.37
We're there too,
we're going to do that.
00:48:31.41\00:48:34.58
That's what AWR
360 is all about.
00:48:34.61\00:48:36.38
Yeah.
00:48:36.41\00:48:37.75
It's really connecting
everyone together, yeah.
00:48:37.78\00:48:40.08
It makes me think of a verse.
00:48:40.12\00:48:41.78
Habakkuk 1:5, "Look
at the nations and watch
00:48:41.82\00:48:46.96
and be utterly amazed.
00:48:46.99\00:48:49.22
For I am going to do
something in your days,
00:48:49.26\00:48:51.39
that you would not
believe, even if you were told."
00:48:51.43\00:48:54.10
"Even if you are told." Yeah.
00:48:54.13\00:48:55.46
And we are
seeing that right now.
00:48:55.50\00:48:56.83
Amen.
00:48:56.87\00:48:58.20
How the Lord is working in
all these different nations and,
00:48:58.23\00:49:00.44
you know, making so
many things available to us
00:49:00.47\00:49:02.74
to use to spread the gospel.
00:49:02.77\00:49:04.11
Indeed.
00:49:04.14\00:49:05.47
So we're going to connect
all those dots and, yeah.
00:49:05.51\00:49:07.18
How incredible is that.
00:49:07.21\00:49:08.54
I'm glad that you're working
00:49:08.58\00:49:09.91
with the South
England Conference.
00:49:09.94\00:49:11.28
We did in September of 2016,
00:49:11.31\00:49:12.95
when we ran the
meetings over there.
00:49:12.98\00:49:14.45
And they've got 80,000
00:49:14.48\00:49:15.82
registered
butchers in that city.
00:49:15.85\00:49:17.19
Wow, 80,000.
00:49:17.22\00:49:18.55
You talk about
thousands in town.
00:49:18.59\00:49:19.92
Really? Wow.
00:49:19.95\00:49:21.29
But you can almost feel
it that the Lord is ready
00:49:21.32\00:49:24.73
to sort of break that town apart
00:49:24.76\00:49:27.16
so that's wonderful.
00:49:27.20\00:49:28.53
That is a great,
great, great thing.
00:49:28.56\00:49:30.20
It's a lot of vision
on the brethren there.
00:49:30.23\00:49:31.97
And they're
working strongly with us
00:49:32.00\00:49:34.10
because they want to
reach people for Jesus.
00:49:34.14\00:49:36.97
We're focused on that.
00:49:37.01\00:49:38.34
You know, like
one of the pastors
00:49:38.37\00:49:39.71
said to me couple of
days ago, "We don't have time,
00:49:39.74\00:49:42.08
time is running out.
00:49:42.11\00:49:43.45
We got to do it
now." That's right.
00:49:43.48\00:49:44.91
"You know, Lord
wants us to do it."
00:49:44.95\00:49:46.55
Yeah, and I don't think we
can be too overly concerned
00:49:46.58\00:49:49.08
about offending people,
we don't want to offend them,
00:49:49.12\00:49:51.32
non-offend them to hell.
00:49:51.35\00:49:52.92
We want them to know, you
know, I would rather offend them
00:49:52.95\00:49:55.26
and let them hear about
the gospel than having say,
00:49:55.29\00:49:57.36
or you never said anything
trying not to offend me,
00:49:57.39\00:50:00.10
now I don't make it to eternity.
00:50:00.13\00:50:01.46
Yeah. Why didn't you tell
me? No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:01.50\00:50:03.00
We got it down.
00:50:03.03\00:50:04.37
So we got and 'cause our
time is going away from us
00:50:04.40\00:50:06.63
before we go to our news break.
00:50:06.67\00:50:08.00
We've got Europe
coming to Africa,
00:50:08.04\00:50:12.27
we're getting ready for Japan.
00:50:12.31\00:50:13.64
Give me the sort
of the long range,
00:50:13.68\00:50:15.84
binocular kind of
look at what TMI and AWR...
00:50:15.88\00:50:19.85
Right, we're
focused on this year,
00:50:19.88\00:50:22.78
right now we're bringing
00:50:22.82\00:50:24.15
Japanese pastors
to the Philippines.
00:50:24.19\00:50:25.65
Yes. Okay.
00:50:25.69\00:50:27.02
And they're going
to preach their first
00:50:27.06\00:50:28.39
evangelistic meetings
ever in the Island of Mindoro,
00:50:28.42\00:50:30.29
we have seven radio
stations broadcasting,
00:50:30.33\00:50:32.49
preparing for that.
00:50:32.53\00:50:33.86
One village chief
just called us up,
00:50:33.90\00:50:35.36
last week and he said,
00:50:35.40\00:50:37.03
"You know, we
have two villages here,
00:50:37.07\00:50:38.97
you don't have an
Adventist church here."
00:50:39.00\00:50:40.74
If we don't, we could
never reach them before.
00:50:40.77\00:50:42.50
And he said, "We all want to
become Seventh-day Adventists."
00:50:42.54\00:50:44.64
Amen.
00:50:44.67\00:50:46.01
In Mindoro and then
00:50:46.04\00:50:47.38
they'll get
excited about evangelism.
00:50:47.41\00:50:48.98
These Japanese
pastors who have never done
00:50:49.01\00:50:50.78
these kind of evangelism before,
00:50:50.81\00:50:52.51
they'll go back home to Japan
00:50:52.55\00:50:53.95
and then prepare
for their church,
00:50:53.98\00:50:55.82
and their
churches for the meetings
00:50:55.85\00:50:57.19
that will take
place in the year.
00:50:57.22\00:50:58.55
So that is so thrilling.
00:50:58.59\00:51:00.19
I think that is
just a brilliant mindset
00:51:00.22\00:51:02.22
to take pastors who are
working in places where you just
00:51:02.26\00:51:04.79
don't get enough, you just don't
00:51:04.83\00:51:06.36
and that can be discouraging.
00:51:06.39\00:51:07.73
Yeah.
00:51:07.76\00:51:09.10
Throw them into water to
deep end and let them see
00:51:09.13\00:51:10.47
how what it is to preach to
a thousand people every night
00:51:10.50\00:51:13.37
and they'll go back on fire.
00:51:13.40\00:51:15.37
That's a wonderful idea.
00:51:15.40\00:51:16.87
Then we broadcast these
for the next couple years
00:51:16.91\00:51:19.41
in the Tokyo,
largest, 38 million people.
00:51:19.44\00:51:21.91
Yes.
00:51:21.94\00:51:23.28
And then with the health message
00:51:23.31\00:51:24.65
and getting
them to the seminars,
00:51:24.68\00:51:26.01
do the same thing in Calcutta,
00:51:26.05\00:51:27.38
we're going to do the
same thing in Hong Kong.
00:51:27.42\00:51:28.75
And then we're going to
broadcast into North Korea.
00:51:28.78\00:51:31.49
Can you imagine
North Korea? Yeah.
00:51:31.52\00:51:33.15
I want to stand there...
00:51:33.19\00:51:35.76
That is just a juicy, juicy.
00:51:35.79\00:51:37.83
I want to stand on the DMC...
00:51:37.86\00:51:39.96
Yeah. And we want...
00:51:40.00\00:51:41.66
I want to talk about
reaching, broadcasting.
00:51:41.70\00:51:43.57
Yeah.
00:51:43.60\00:51:44.93
Let the brethren in
North Korea hear the gospel.
00:51:44.97\00:51:46.53
Praise the Lord.
Adventist World Radio.
00:51:46.57\00:51:48.60
Very good.
00:51:48.64\00:51:49.97
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You may also call them
at area code (301) 680-6304.
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Or contact Cami
Oetman at Cami@AWR.org.
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That's Cami@AWR.org.
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