Participants: John Lomacang (Host), Marcia Harycki, Michelle Larson, Orv Gauger
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017041A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my word 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN. 01:09 My name is John Lomacang but if you've returned, 01:11 if you've been a part of our family, 01:13 you already know that. 01:14 But if you're tuning in for the first time, 01:16 welcome to the station that we believe the Lord chose 01:19 and anointed to carry an undiluted 01:21 Three Angels' Messages, 01:22 one that will counteract the counterfeit 01:24 in the quote of our Founder and President Danny Shelton. 01:28 We want to thank you for your prayers 01:29 and your financial support of this network 01:31 which continues to go and grow preparing a world 01:34 for the soon coming of our blessed savior, 01:36 Jesus Christ. 01:38 And today is a program that's going to encourage you 01:41 on how you can get involved to get this program out. 01:45 You know, the Lord doesn't call just pastors and elders 01:47 and teachers and "professionals" as it were 01:50 but He calls the laity to carry the gospel to the world 01:54 and to the community in which you live, 01:55 you can make a significant impact. 01:58 And our guests today are going to share 01:59 on how the Lord has chosen them 02:02 and what He has done through them. 02:04 You know, the Bible says, 02:05 "For it is God who works in us 02:07 both to will and to do of His good pleasure." 02:10 So do stay tuned, we know that it is going to be 02:13 inspiring for you and maybe put a seed of hope 02:16 or activity in your life, 02:18 how you can get involved and getting others ready 02:21 for the coming of our Lord. 02:23 But before we do that, we have some music, 02:25 Tammy Chance, one of our very own 02:27 is going to sing a song entitled, 02:29 "Because of Who You Are". 02:40 You spoke the words 02:42 And all the worlds came into order 02:47 You raised your hands 02:48 And planets filled the empty skies 02:54 You placed the woman and the man 02:57 Inside the garden 03:01 And though they fell 03:03 They found compassion in your eyes 03:08 Oh, Lord, I stand amazed 03:12 At the wonder of it all 03:15 Yet a greater wonder brings me to my knees 03:22 Lord, I praise you because of who you are 03:29 Not for all the mighty deeds that you have done 03:36 Lord, I worship you because of who you are 03:42 You're all the reason that I need to voice my praise 03:48 Because of who you are 03:57 One holy night you sent your promise 04:01 From a virgin 04:04 And promise grew till he revealed to us 04:08 Your heart 04:11 Enduring love displayed throughout your crucifixion 04:18 And through your death you told the darken grave upon 04:25 Oh, Lord, I stand amazed 04:29 At the wonder of it all 04:32 Yet a greater wonder brings me to my knees 04:39 Lord, I praise you because of who you are 04:46 Not for all the mighty deeds that you have done 04:52 Lord, I worship you because of who you are 04:59 You're all the reason that I need to voice my praise 05:06 Lord, I praise you because of who you are 05:13 Not for all the mighty deeds that you have done 05:20 Lord, I worship you because of who you are 05:27 You're all the reason that I need to voice my praise 05:33 Because of who you are 05:39 Because of who you are 05:47 Because of who you are 06:05 Thank you so much, Tammy, what a wonderful song 06:08 "Because of Who You Are", because of who God is, 06:11 because of who Christ is, 06:13 we can be who he's called us to be 06:16 and thank you so much for that message. 06:19 Now let's meet our guests today, 06:20 we have next to me Marcia Harycki. 06:23 Good to have you here, Marcia. Thank you. 06:26 And then Orv, say that last name. 06:29 Gauger. Gauger. 06:31 And then we have Michelle Larson. 06:33 Good to see over there, Michelle. 06:34 Hi. 06:35 And each of you is from the Chippewa Valley 06:38 Seventh-day Adventist Church 06:39 but just kind of tell us in a nutshell, 06:42 what you do and kind of give us 06:44 a little bit of background about yourself? 06:45 Okay, for like right now at church... 06:47 Sure. I'm a member. 06:49 That's it? A working member. 06:51 Yes, sir. 06:52 Okay, that's a lot, that's a lot to say 06:53 because many people are members but not working members. 06:56 Yes, sir. And Orv? 06:58 My name is Orv Gauger and I'm from the same church, 07:03 Chippewa Valley, 07:04 and we are a working team together. 07:06 Amen. 07:07 Okay, husband and wife to be exact. 07:08 Yep. Forty years. 07:10 Forty years. Thirty nine years ago. 07:11 Wow, wonderful. And, Michelle? 07:15 I'm currently serving as a community services director 07:17 for the Chippewa Valley Seventh-day Adventist Church. 07:20 Okay. 07:21 And the Lord inspired each of you to do something 07:23 that has now become a significant part 07:26 of the outreach of your church. 07:28 Let's talk about that, 07:29 you were watching a program on 3ABN 07:32 and just begin with that, 07:33 what the Lord did when he inspired you 07:36 to do something about what you saw on 3ABN. 07:40 We want to thank 3ABN because it's been a source 07:44 of real blessings and our own personal lives 07:47 and in the church lives. 07:49 And a few months ago, we saw a program 07:53 with Remnant Publications, 07:54 Amazing Facts, and 3ABN together, 07:58 which partnered in writing, 08:01 producing and advertising the book on the movie 08:04 that had come out a couple months ago, 08:06 Hacksaw Ridge. 08:07 Yes. 08:08 And when we turned off the TV 08:10 we realized it was just too good 08:12 an opportunity to pass by. 08:14 And so we just kind of like took it and ran with it, 08:19 and in the end God turned it into something greater 08:22 than we ever thought would happen. 08:24 Wow. 08:25 Well, tell us how you ran with it, 08:27 any one of you could input in that story, 08:28 how did you run with it and what did you actually do, 08:30 to just say we have to do something 08:31 and what actually, 08:33 how did you follow through on that? 08:35 Well, the first thing we did is, 08:36 we needed to get somebody else on board, 08:38 which is our good friends Kayla and Tim Hayes. 08:40 Okay. 08:41 And once we decided that 08:43 it was just something we needed to do, 08:45 I think we put in the order to run the publications 08:48 for couple of cases first. 08:50 And then we went to the local church and said, 08:53 maybe you're doing something here 08:54 and we should coordinate 08:56 between ourselves and the local church, 08:58 and they were just totally 100% on board, 09:01 the elders and pastor were just fabulous. 09:04 And in the meantime, 09:06 our friend Kayla had an acquaintance 09:09 with the owners of a local theatre. 09:13 And she set up an appointment 09:15 for Orv and I to go and meet them 09:16 and they just welcomed us with open arms. 09:18 Just loving people. 09:20 And so it just developed into a project that it went on 09:23 for almost three months between their venue in one town 09:26 and then the neighboring town which Michelle took care of. 09:28 Okay. 09:30 So that's it in a nutshell and I can give you 09:31 a lot more wonderful details here too. 09:33 Sure, let me let Michelle go ahead 09:34 and chiming on that. 09:36 Tell us about your involvement in that? 09:37 Well, I got involved after they presented it 09:39 to the church and I asked for involvement and I just, 09:42 I loved the idea because 09:44 they were tying into something current 09:46 and that people in the community 09:48 because I think sometimes 09:49 we're too isolated within the church. 09:51 And so I signed up to help pass out books 09:55 for a couple of different nights. 09:56 And then when it came to the second venue, 09:59 which happened to be a half a mile from my house, 10:02 then I took charge of the second venue. 10:04 Now do they let you set up inside the theater, 10:07 outside the theatre or just pass out books 10:09 when people went in or came out? 10:10 Would you like to look at the pictures now 10:12 and you prefer to see that? 10:13 Oh, sure, let's look at that. 10:14 Well, the first picture... Some Hacksaw Ridge. 10:16 Yeah, the first picture that we have is, 10:18 there is our friend Kayla Hayes on the left, 10:20 and Kayla was the other person that actually spearheaded this, 10:24 and that was a picture of how they set up at one point 10:28 in the theater itself. 10:32 The owners were just absolutely, 10:34 they were wonderful, they are just so sweet. 10:38 They had like about 10:39 eight little different movie theaters in there, 10:42 you know, so like we set the table upright 10:44 where the people exited the movie, Hacksaw Ridge. 10:47 Okay. 10:49 And so like as they came out the movie that's what they saw, 10:52 they saw a display of books. 10:53 And I'll show you the second picture now. 10:55 The second picture is where we moved our table to 10:57 and those are a couple of folks that handed out the books. 11:02 And then let's show the third picture now. 11:05 And okay, there's Orv and myself 11:09 and it was the holiday season for part of the program. 11:12 Okay, I see that. 11:14 And you can see the holiday decor there 11:16 and if you can look up, you know, 11:18 on the posters there we actually, 11:21 this actually turned into a fundraising. 11:23 Yeah. 11:25 But that was the idea of the owners, the owners said, 11:29 "Well, you know, sure you can give off the books 11:32 and you can..." 11:33 they thought we were going to sell them. 11:35 And their suggestion is, 11:36 "Well, let's maybe give a dollar of each book 11:38 and we'll give it to a charity." 11:40 And we said... 11:41 No, no, it doesn't manner, we're gonna give them away. 11:43 Yeah, we're gonna give them away 11:45 and then we selected a charity 11:47 and the charity was selected was... 11:50 The homeless veterans fund, 11:51 which is a facility they have in Chippewa Falls. 11:54 Okay. 11:55 And lots of people don't know about that. 11:57 So the owner decided to, hey, just why don't you 11:59 make this a bigger project than you've anticipated. 12:02 More than we imagined. 12:03 Yeah, she is very, very community orientated. 12:06 Yes. 12:08 And we wanted to be part of that, 12:09 we just kind of surprise that she says, 12:10 "Would you like to raise, you know, some money." 12:13 And we kind of like, "Oh, yeah, it's a good idea. 12:16 Let's do that." How much did we raise? 12:18 Thirty seven hundred dollars. 12:19 Thirty seven hundred dollars? Yeah. 12:21 Praise the Lord. You took the checks out there. 12:24 And I took the check out there and I met that man 12:27 who runs the homeless shelter. 12:30 And he was really happy and he said, 12:33 "I hope we'll see you soon." 12:34 Yes. 12:36 So we've been back since. Okay. 12:39 And, Michelle, talk about your involvement 12:41 because this kind of open the door for you 12:42 to just kind of expand your involvement 12:45 in the church and in the community, 12:46 talk about that? 12:48 Well, I think it was again a good tie in 12:50 with the veteran shelter and the movie where, you know, 12:52 it was such a good connection between the two. 12:55 And in handing out the books it was... 12:59 I'm not a person who can evangelize, I can't, 13:02 I'm not really good at public speaking. 13:04 But, and I think that was for 13:06 some of the other volunteers as well 13:08 because you just had to give somebody something 13:10 and then, you know, we were taking donations 13:13 and that's a lot easier than... 13:15 Preaching a sermon. 13:16 Right, you know, and then... Exactly. 13:18 And so even the first night that I went to hand out a book. 13:24 The first person to come out of theater 13:25 that I was able to give a book to was a colleague 13:28 that I had worked with many years before 13:30 and he used to make comments about Bible thumpers. 13:33 And he was the first person I was able to hand the book to. 13:35 So... Was he surprised? 13:37 Yeah, he was very surprised. 13:39 He said, Michelle, what are you doing? 13:40 He took, you know, and he took the book. 13:42 And, you know, so it was those kind of things 13:44 and when we were 13:46 at the Chippewa location every night that I was there, 13:49 I saw somebody I knew that I can hand a book too. 13:52 So it was really kind of incredible. 13:55 So it's building bridges to the community. 13:57 A lot of times, we try to do what we can to get people 13:59 to come to our church but, you know, 14:01 you've mentioned something 14:02 which has become a part of 3ABN's mission, 14:05 the blessing is on the... 14:06 The go. On the go. 14:07 Go and get to work. Exactly. 14:09 Yes. 14:10 And that has been a tremendous blessing 14:12 to the ministry of 3ABN, 14:13 and if you've been a part of that, 14:15 you know, that the blessings on the go, 14:17 go evangelism 'cause it's not come evangelism 14:20 but a go evangelism. 14:21 Come to the foot of the cross as Danny would say... 14:23 Amen. And to go and share the gospel. 14:26 And it's not that difficult. 14:27 I mean, the book that we're talking about here 14:29 is the Hacksaw Ridge book which many of you 14:32 may have seen through the programs done 14:33 here on 3ABN, there's a copy of it. 14:35 Wonderful. 14:36 And the postscript is written by Pastor Doug Batchelor, 14:41 which a lot of people don't realize 14:43 just through this book, 14:45 it not only tells a story of Desmond Doss 14:49 but it also exposes people to the God he served 14:54 to the church he was a member of. 14:56 And then it just opens doors for people 14:58 to understand a message 14:59 that they would not otherwise even entertain. 15:01 I mean, how many evangelistic series 15:03 have been held in the movie theater? 15:05 None. 15:08 But this allowed you to do that. 15:09 It was incredible. 15:11 Can you imagine, I'm not a big movie gore 15:14 and but yet, you would walk in there 15:18 and you'd see people walking around 15:20 inside a movie theater, coming out of movies 15:22 and they were holding evangelistic literature 15:26 in their hand and it was like, 15:27 it was just such a strange sight. 15:29 It was beautiful. 15:31 We gave out 1,381 books at both venues. 15:34 Yeah. Wow. 15:35 We were there for 55 nights total. 15:38 And we had 36 men, women, and children participate 15:42 and there were kids there. 15:43 Yep, there were kids. 15:45 And these are people that won't necessarily 15:47 have wanted to do something except it was so easy, 15:50 we made it so easy. 15:52 Who is not going to resist saying, like, 15:53 "Here we have, we have a free book about 15:56 the hero of Hacksaw Ridge," 15:57 and by the way if you'd like to donate 15:58 to the Chippewa Falls homeless veteran shelter you can. 16:01 We got people in the movie theater 16:03 put in $100 bills, $50 bills, $20 bills. 16:06 Yeah. 16:07 It was just, it was such a, it was so wonderful 16:11 to give people the opportunity to show their appreciation. 16:17 They came out of the movie, 16:19 there is a certain set of thoughts on their mind 16:22 and they were able to respond to it 16:24 by donating to homeless veterans. 16:26 They even gave out these little pins here, see that. 16:28 Yes, yes, I like that as well. 16:30 They were actually sent from the... 16:31 Thank you for supporting. 16:32 Says thank you for supporting film 16:34 and celebrating Veterans Day. 16:35 Yeah. This is really, really nice. 16:37 Yeah. 16:38 Limited edition pin of Hacksaw Ridge. 16:40 There it is. That's for you. 16:42 Thank you. 16:43 Hey, I have my first flag to salute here. 16:47 But I tell you, the life of Desmond Doss 16:50 has been such an inspiration. 16:51 Isn't it amazing. 16:53 It reminds me of the text in Revelation 14:13, 16:55 "You know blessed are the dead who die in the Lord 16:57 that they may rest from their labors 16:59 and their works to follow them." 17:01 And even in the silence, 17:03 Desmond Doss continues to speak of the God he served, 17:06 and the countless lives 17:07 through the project of Hacksaw Ridge books. 17:10 And thank you for Remnant Publications, 17:12 and for Pastor Batchelor who contributed to that 17:15 and also the beauty of the message 17:16 that's included there. 17:18 Amen. 17:19 Now you showed me three pictures 17:20 about Hacksaw Ridge, is there another one? 17:22 Oh, this one is really fun. Oh, yes. 17:23 This is the best one. 17:24 Okay. Okay. 17:26 Now this one has quite a story to it 17:27 because there's, how many cases did we have? 17:30 I can't remember... Fourteen. 17:31 Fourteen cases of books. 17:33 They kept the boxes because it was just 17:35 so impressive seeing them outside our door. 17:37 And then we'd have another box of books come in we think, 17:40 "Oh, where now we're gonna get these all." 17:41 I love this picture. 17:43 And so those are the folks. 17:45 We told everybody to get in the picture 17:47 if they passed out books, 17:49 wanted to passed out books, pray for us... 17:51 Pray for the Lord. 17:52 Or we're happy we passed out books. 17:54 So pastor had us take, Pastor Predeve Vince in there. 17:56 Okay. 17:57 He had us take a picture at the end of the church. 18:00 And, you know, this is really interesting, 18:02 Pastor Lomacang, 18:03 because if you look at that picture again, 18:05 look at those big signs, okay. 18:08 Okay, let's see that one more time. 18:09 Okay, it says, 3181 raised to that point, 18:11 did run up as Michelle took it to the next venue. 18:14 And it was only 1,162 books and then it went up 18:18 as Michelle worked on it. 18:20 And, you know, I just, I thought, 18:21 want to be fun to make a little sign like that. 18:24 And so you have a concept in your mind and you think, 18:27 I was thinking a little sheet about so big, you know, 18:30 how they do on Facebook, "Can I get an amen?" 18:32 And so I said, "Kayla, could you do that?" 18:36 And Kayla made these absolutely gorgeous signs 18:39 that she painted. 18:40 She was the other person 18:41 that really worked on this with, 18:43 you know, to get the things going and organized. 18:45 And it's just a thought in my mind that, like, 18:48 you know, you have an idea in your mind 18:49 but you pass it on to somebody else. 18:52 And, you know, because of them and their talents 18:55 and their attitude and their vision, 18:58 it turns into something much better 18:59 than you ever could have imagined yourself. 19:01 Yeah. 19:02 And I think that's the wonderful part 19:04 of getting a church to work together 19:07 because you don't know the talent, and the skills, 19:11 and the ideas that they have and that the Holy Spirit 19:14 just gonna give them until you see it. 19:15 And I looked at those signs and I went, "Those are wow. 19:18 Those are really nice." 19:19 My favorite sign is, "Can we get an amen?" 19:21 Yeah, amen. 19:23 Pastors love that, "Can I get an amen?" 19:24 Yeah. 19:25 But that was amazing but you said 19:28 it number of times, Michelle took it to next level. 19:31 Talk about that? Yes, yes. 19:32 Well, I don't know, 19:35 the theater owners have two theaters, 19:37 one in Chippewa Falls and one in Eau Claire. 19:39 And so when it came time to come in it, 19:42 the one in Eau Claire's like 19:44 the second run theater that it comes to. 19:45 So when it finished and again it was half a mile 19:48 from my house, so I figured, you know, 19:50 I might as well take it from these guys, 19:53 so they didn't have to run all the way down there. 19:55 And so I spent a lot of nights down there 19:58 with some of our church members as well 20:01 and some of the nights I was down there alone. 20:03 And just reaching out to people at the second run theater 20:07 and we had a really good response. 20:10 There were a couple of times a person would take the book, 20:14 you know, if they got there early, 20:16 maybe get their popcorn, they take the book 20:18 and go into the theater and they'd come back 20:20 five or ten minutes later and say, 20:22 "Why are you doing this?" 20:24 And, you know, so I was able to explain to them 20:26 the story of Desmond Doss 20:27 and his affiliation with our church 20:30 and we just thought it was a good story 20:31 to share with people. 20:33 So, you know, it was really a good experience. 20:38 What about the transformation that you experienced, 20:42 because as you mentioned, you don't strike me 20:44 as a type A stand on top of the box preacher... 20:48 No, not really. 20:50 Repent, the world is coming to an end. 20:51 You know, you don't strike to me 20:53 as that kind of an individual 20:54 but I could see the transformation, 20:56 not know you before I could see 20:57 that this really did impact you in a beautiful way. 20:59 It really did. 21:00 You know, my primary focus is community service where, 21:03 you know, we're simply serving people without, 21:06 you know, evangelizing or, you know, 21:08 which I think are both very important 21:10 but they have separate roles. 21:12 And so service has always been kind of my focus, 21:15 but again the way this project tied the two together 21:18 and it wasn't really threatening 21:21 even for someone like me 21:23 who tends to be a little more introverted to go in 21:26 and just say, "Hey, we've got this book 21:28 and that's a great story." 21:30 And so it really was, yeah, it was transforming 21:33 I think for a few other people within the church as well, 21:35 who stepped up to hand out the books 21:37 and maybe thought 21:38 that they couldn't do something like this 21:40 but we're really good at it. 21:41 You know, you meet people at an intersection of the life. 21:43 Amen. 21:44 Coming and going and you never know 21:46 if you're gonna see them again, but at least you've increased 21:48 the possibilities of seeing them again, 21:50 because you can't just read the book 21:52 without going to the end and talk about the faith 21:57 that shaped the man, I love that. 21:59 There's a section called prepare to meet your maker 22:02 and it talks about the ultimate sacrifice, 22:06 wonderful Bible studies in the section, 22:08 the faith that shaped the man. 22:10 And significant studies are included in there 22:13 to help people understand, 22:14 why Desmond Doss was so passionately convinced that, 22:20 I am not going to carry a weapon, 22:22 I am not gonna carry a weapon, 22:24 I don't believe I need to carry one, 22:25 I don't want to take lives, I want to preserve the lives, 22:28 I want to spear lives. 22:30 But you've been the quiet man out today, 22:32 tell us about your involvement in this, Orv? 22:35 What really was exciting was when people would come back 22:41 the second time, third time 22:43 and see us and thank us for doing this. 22:46 Yeah. Wow. 22:47 What a blessing! 22:49 And come and ask for more books. 22:50 Then come and ask for more books, yeah. 22:51 Right. And give more money. 22:53 Yes. 22:54 I got to the point where you didn't have to really ask, 22:57 they see, they've seen the... 22:59 There is a big purple donation box 23:03 and they would just reach out and they used to put it in 23:06 like Marcia was saying, 23:07 we got people give $100 bill, $50 bill. 23:10 Yeah. 23:11 And when people would come back... 23:15 I know to come back and... 23:17 And thank us for doing this. Yes. 23:19 And come over to our house and get more books. 23:21 Like get more books, yeah. Get people come to your house. 23:24 Or call us up, call us up. 23:25 Anyway, one man calls up and he said, 23:28 he hadn't seen the movie but he would like the book. 23:29 Yeah. 23:31 You know, and he wanted two of them. 23:35 I can't remember which one it was 23:36 but one night we had just one person come. 23:39 Yes, yes. 23:40 One person but they brought their whole family. 23:42 Wow. 23:43 And it looked like they were homeschoolers. 23:45 Yes. 23:46 And this is now just one book all we need. 23:48 Yes. 23:49 And that's all we give away that night. 23:50 Wow. 23:52 And the reason there is only one, 23:53 there is a very low attendances 23:55 because it was probably during like 23:56 about ten degrees above snowstorm. 23:59 Yeah, it's cold there. And I got to thank my... 24:01 That will explain something. 24:02 I have to thank my husband because, you know, 24:04 it's like, we had a lot of people work 24:07 but as the weather got colder and the snow, you know, 24:11 the weather changed, you know, the season's changed. 24:15 And because of that, you know, 24:19 it was a lot easier for us to go over to the theater 24:21 'cause we were very close, 24:23 whereas other people had to drive maybe 15, 20 miles. 24:26 And so we just kept going back and back and back 24:31 and at the point, one point I just said, 24:33 I just I'm tired of going back 24:34 because we'd have to go late at night 24:36 because where there were only, 24:37 they were down to like one showing a day. 24:40 Okay. 24:41 You know, as the movie progressed through 24:43 its run and it would be a late showing. 24:45 So at 8:15 at night in the cold, dark weather. 24:48 I would say, "Honey, come on, let's go." 24:49 Yes, I would say, "I don't want to go." 24:51 And he said, "Let's do it." 24:52 And we went and we come back just absolutely heaven above 24:55 because we were so happy that we did it. 24:56 I mean Wisconsin in the wintertime, really. 24:58 It's winter. I know 10 above. 25:00 Yes. 25:01 It just reminded me of the thrill, 25:03 the thrill of the chill. 25:05 Yeah, so you can check it out there. 25:08 But it did make an impact on you 25:11 because and the thing about it is 25:13 as you've seen there are, there are points in life 25:17 where the Lord gives us the privilege as a people 25:21 to just be a part of something great. 25:22 Amen. 25:24 And something transformative which was the case here, 25:28 we had thousands of books given out here, 25:30 I'm sure the people in Florida probably were out 25:32 and maybe a large numbers, 25:33 you don't have to worry about weather. 25:35 Yeah. 25:36 And the different parts of the nation 25:37 that were involved in this and this was a nation, 25:39 this is a coast to coast involvement. 25:42 When Remnant talked about the number of books 25:44 that were produced and the people 25:46 that called in for books. 25:49 And these are lives, just to put this, 25:51 there are people you met that when you get to the kingdom, 25:56 they might say, remember me, it was like only ten above 26:00 and our whole family was there... 26:01 Yes. 26:03 Would that be, would that be an occasion to just praise God. 26:06 Well worth it. Well worth it. 26:08 So the blessing is on...? 26:09 The go. Blessing is on the go. 26:10 Go and get to work. Go and get to work. 26:14 And 3ABN is also... 26:15 I'm gonna go back to your story in just a moment 26:16 because you took this to another level 26:18 and you got involved, 26:20 you brought some pictures to talk about 26:21 some other community outreach is that were inspiring to you. 26:25 Yeah. 26:26 I'm gonna give you the time to talk about that. 26:28 I was asked to be community services director last year 26:31 and I had done it many years ago 26:32 and kind of backed out of it 26:35 for a while, for a lot of reasons. 26:37 But I just came into it with a different focus 26:40 and I think being more in the community kind of thing, 26:45 and I'm looking for ways 26:47 that we can both help church members be inspired 26:52 and also to help actually 26:54 provide something that's needed. 26:56 And I think another turning point for me 26:58 was last year at Wisconsin camp meeting. 27:00 I went to see a community services presentation 27:03 and he talked about meeting, 27:05 finding a need in your community 27:06 and meeting that need, 27:08 rather than thinking of whatever idea 27:10 that you might have and think, 27:12 I wanna do this program without maybe seeing 27:14 if your community really needs that program. 27:17 That's right. 27:18 So that really kind of resonated with me 27:20 which is why I thought the Hacksaw Ridge thing 27:22 was such a good tying 27:23 with the homeless veteran shelter. 27:25 So I started looking at some things we have going on 27:28 and I have to say I have an advantage 27:30 because whatever I do professionally, 27:32 I've been a social worker for a number of years, 27:34 so I kind of have a leg up on people in finding the need 27:38 but anybody can do it. 27:41 You really don't have to look very far, you know, 27:44 you can do a Google search, a newspaper search, 27:46 you can talk to your human services agency 27:48 in your county and find out what do you have locally 27:51 that might be a project in need. 27:54 And our area has a pretty high suicide rate. 27:58 And we also have a large methamphetamine problem, 28:03 and a lot of children being put into foster care 28:05 in the surrounding counties. 28:07 So some of the first things that we did is 28:09 we brought in training for the church members first, 28:13 it's a program called Question Persuade and Refer 28:15 and it's a suicide prevention program. 28:18 So it's to teach everyday people, 28:20 laypeople how to talk to somebody 28:22 if you think that they may be in danger of suicide. 28:26 So we brought that into the church 28:28 and did some training and we're planning on 28:29 another one probably later this year. 28:32 And one day I saw a news story locally 28:37 and this was the first big project I came with. 28:40 And it talked about the needs 28:42 for the drug endangered children program, 28:45 you know, when kids are removed a lot of their belongings 28:48 and everything are contaminated, 28:51 because of the drug use in the home. 28:53 So they wanted law enforcement and the social workers 28:56 to have backpacks 28:57 with necessary items for these kids. 29:00 So we did a very large donation drive with the church. 29:02 I think we were collecting for 29:04 four to six weeks off of the list. 29:08 And we donated that out to the Oakland county 29:10 drug endangered children program 29:11 and our local law enforcement actually then assembled 29:14 the backpacks for the kids. 29:16 Wow. 29:17 And it came to me later through another avenue 29:18 that the Altoona police chief 29:21 was actually aware of our church 29:23 through doing that because his, 29:25 some of his staff had helped assemble the backpacks 29:28 and they were told that, you know, 29:30 the Adventist church in your community 29:32 donated these items. 29:33 Look at that. 29:35 So put your name in a positive light. 29:36 Right. Well, okay. 29:38 And that's kind of my goal is to be out there 29:41 and for people to know who we are 29:43 and we're talking about this last night actually. 29:45 You know, I want some of the agencies to think, 29:48 "You know, we've got this need, 29:51 the Adventist Church has helped us with this before. 29:54 Let's give them a call." 29:55 That's right. That's my goal. 29:57 That's a very good mindset to come to the program with 30:01 because when your name becomes synonymous with, 30:05 we've been seeing these people a lot, 30:06 they were at the movie theater, now they're doing a fundraiser 30:09 and raising for people that have other needs 30:11 and other community necessities. 30:14 Wow, they're pretty active and connect to church. 30:17 Let's find out what drives them and I like the fact that, 30:20 I think one of you asked the question 30:22 or mention the question somebody ask you why, 30:24 why are you doing this? 30:26 When you begin with the why? 30:28 Then you can go to the how and then the what you do. 30:31 Why you do it is the most important thing, 30:34 but sometimes we often start with the what we believe 30:37 and how we worship rather than beginning with the why. 30:41 If you start with the why, 30:42 then it motivates why do we do this? 30:44 Because we love people, because we want to make 30:45 a difference in our community, 30:47 because we want to lead people to Christ, 30:48 but instead of doing it the way that is uncomfortable for them, 30:53 you meet them where they are. 30:54 Amen. And you brought some pictures. 30:56 Yeah, we did and this was from another outreach 31:00 that we did over Christmas. 31:01 And we have an organization called the Wellness Check 31:04 in Eau Claire and it's a peer run center 31:08 for persons with mental illness. 31:10 Is this a quilt? What are they doing? 31:11 We are making Thai blankets in there 31:14 and that's our head deacon in center 31:15 and her granddaughter. 31:17 Okay. 31:18 Making these so we decided to do Christmas gifts 31:23 for the consumers at the Wellness Check. 31:25 We wanted to look out and find somebody 31:28 who may be forgotten 'cause, you know, 31:30 there's lots of, you know, 31:32 toy programs for kids at Christmas. 31:34 And so a lot of the consumers there have mental illness 31:38 and substance abuse problems, maybe homeless 31:41 and quite really forgotten people. 31:43 So we did, we had a total of 40 Thai blankets 31:48 and then we made 40 gift bags 31:51 and I think those are shown in another picture, 31:53 where we put together some basic necessities 31:56 and we got the list of what would be needed 31:58 from the director at the Wellness Check. 31:59 Definitely gloves when you add that 32:01 to go with it. 32:02 So we put these together in little Thai backpacks 32:04 and we had those down there 32:05 for their Christmas party in December. 32:07 Look at that, look at that. 32:09 And was there one more picture? 32:13 There are a couple more, this is an ongoing ministry 32:16 we've had for a long time and this is serving meals 32:17 at the community table. 32:19 Okay. 32:20 Which serves meals every day, seven days a week 32:22 and it's all volunteer organizations 32:24 that come in and prepare and serve the meals. 32:26 So we have a couple pictures here 32:28 of our church members, 32:30 down there serving at the community table. 32:32 That's called the community table. 32:33 That's something that people are familiar 32:36 with the point of touch... Yes. 32:37 Where people come and get their needs, their needs. 32:39 Yeah, that they have meals every day. 32:41 But I think I'm kind of most excited about 32:45 at this point as we have, 32:47 we're in the very beginning stages 32:49 of forming a partnership 32:51 with an organization called Fierce Freedom 32:53 and they are local actually... 32:55 Could you say what's the name of the organization? 32:57 Fierce Freedom. Fierce Freedom, okay. 32:59 And they are a local, literally down street 33:02 from our church and I'm not even sure 33:04 how I stumbles, I just think, you know, God led me there. 33:06 The God led you. That's right. You know. 33:08 And they are an anti-human trafficking organization 33:13 and they do a lot of stuff locally. 33:15 And we brought them in and they did a presentation 33:20 for our church to talk about human trafficking 33:22 and what we can do 33:25 and we have a lot of church members 33:27 who are really excited about doing some type of work 33:31 with this organization. 33:32 So the church has become a sponsor 33:37 for they have a justice run in July, 33:40 and it's on the Wednesday evening 33:42 and it's a fundraiser. 33:44 So the church has become a sponsor 33:45 for their justice run. 33:46 We'll have our logo on their T-shirts 33:50 and we also will be able to have a table at the event. 33:54 And we may put items in their goodie bags 33:58 for the runners, 34:00 so they're gonna have 500 goodie bags 34:01 and we have a board meeting next week actually, 34:03 so I'm gonna be talking to the board about 34:05 what we might be able to put 34:06 in the goodie bag for the runners. 34:08 Wonderful. 34:09 I mean, that's so this starting with the blessings on the go, 34:13 the Hacksaw Ridge project, meeting people and then, 34:17 Michelle, the Lord inspires her, 34:19 "Hey, this is just the beginning." 34:22 And so the Chippewa Valley Seventh-day Adventist Church 34:25 is known as, they are people that reach out, 34:28 not just say come in but they come out 34:31 and they come out to make a difference in our community. 34:34 But I can't ignore these shirts that are sticking here. 34:37 Do you like them? 34:38 I can't ignore them, they're about radio 34:39 and I want to have. 34:41 Orv, tell us about another inspirational touch point 34:43 of that 3ABN impact... 34:45 Before I started talking with radio station 34:46 and it's like to really emphasize, 34:49 you may not have any talents. 34:53 I mean, I have a project but if you get inspiration 34:57 'cause this how the Hacksaw Ridge started 34:59 Marcia and I, after we heard the program 35:00 we said, we're gonna do this, it was like that. 35:03 That's right. 35:04 And people will just need to do that, you know. 35:08 And maybe it will be just, we weren't sure who, 35:10 who was involved, how many people 35:12 but look what happened with just two couples. 35:15 I mean, almost 40 people. Yeah. 35:18 That's a dream come true. Amen. 35:21 And so I would just encourage, we get old here 35:24 and I'm gonna be, I'm 75 plus. 35:25 Are you really? 35:27 If I can, well, I'll be 76 in September. 35:28 So anyway, if I can do it, anybody can do it 35:32 but here's the key. 35:34 The key is that, you have a thought 35:37 and you have the thought over how many times, 35:40 and sooner or later that thought is gonna go away 35:42 because you kind of seared the thought 35:45 and you get the thought act on it. 35:47 It's very good point. 35:48 And you may just be, you may just like, 35:49 like listening into the radio station, like, 35:52 what happened with the radio station someone says 35:54 where would you have little time 35:56 to maybe help get this live, get this station on the online? 36:00 Well, that was October 31st, 36:03 the station's license run out December 31st. 36:08 The station was put up without land, without money, 36:12 without anything and the guy who had no experience. 36:16 But in 40 days money was there, the land was there, 36:20 the permits all got, put through the system 36:23 like they have to be 36:24 and sometimes permits are hard to get. 36:25 Yeah. 36:27 You do some good honor and you get a permit. 36:28 Anyway, within 40 days the station went from nothing 36:31 to an on the air station. 36:32 Praise the Lord. 36:34 What a blessing, I'm just happy to be part of it. 36:37 And I will hold this proudly, 36:39 so that people that are driving through your area, 36:41 you could tune into 103.5FM, your total lifestyle network. 36:47 Pastor Lomacang, that's actually one of three stations. 36:49 Yes. Oh, wow. 36:51 That's from the station over in Menominee 36:53 that Orv managed for seven years. 36:55 And where is that again? And... 36:57 Menominee down the road, 36:58 there's three stations within the triangle of about 37:00 30 miles from each other. 37:01 Look at that. 37:03 There's also a station 37:04 at the actual church sight itself, 96.9. 37:08 Okay. 37:09 And then there's also the one that was built in 40 days 37:13 on a piece of land that was donated 37:15 by a Jew lady Helen Pack. 37:17 And her son Ashwell Pack got together a crew 37:20 to put in the tower, put in the building, 37:23 do the construction, 37:25 lend fast up on the Rice Lake Church, 37:27 put the equipment together and Orv project manager to it. 37:31 And that's the one that went up in 40 days. 37:33 Yeah. 37:34 Almost in the middle of the winter too. 37:36 I guess, we must like doing projects 37:38 in the winter in Wisconsin. 37:39 Yeah, you know, whatever, whatever you start 37:41 will be frozen into place. 37:43 Yes, right. 37:44 They will be preserved through wintertime. 37:45 To show you how God works, 37:47 when the tower was to be put up... 37:49 Yes. 37:50 It was, the ground wasn't frozen yet. 37:52 Yes. 37:53 And this truck came in, it was a, 37:54 I mean, like, a cement truck... 37:56 It's a crane. 37:57 A crane, this cement truck, yeah. 37:59 Anyway to get that in there 38:00 the land had to be frozen and guess what? 38:02 God froze the land. The night before. 38:04 Night before. Look at that. 38:06 Isn't that great? What a blessing. 38:08 That could only happen in Wisconsin in the wintertime. 38:11 So we don't have T-shirts from all three stations 38:14 but I think we're gonna make some more designed pretty soon. 38:17 We're actually going to the fair this summer. 38:21 North Wisconsin concerts. 38:23 There's some rather would large countywide, 38:25 many county fair. 38:27 And so people at the fair will probably see T-shirts 38:32 with the other radio stations listed, 38:34 they'll probably see more Hacksaw Ridge books 38:37 and they will most likely 38:38 God willing remember seeing us someplace else 38:42 and we'll still be there friends again. 38:44 That's right. 38:45 And who knows what projects will come up with that, 38:47 Michelle, as we talk to people. 38:49 And then we're also going to be promoting 38:52 Family Home Christian books, 38:54 which is another project we heard on 3ABN. 38:57 Look at that. 38:58 And so and it's just another, 39:02 another outreach that we'll be doing. 39:05 3ABN has become your one stop shopping inspirational network. 39:08 For the total, lifestyle network. 39:09 Amen, amen. 39:11 And, you know, what's wonderful about that 39:12 for those of you who know 3ABN has also radio. 39:15 My wife works for 3ABN radio. 39:17 And sometimes it's more convenient 39:19 because she could, you're driving 39:20 depending on going through communities, 39:23 here we have a Du Quoin is the radio station 39:26 we have here 95.9 on the FM dial. 39:30 And when people are driving through here, 39:32 they listen to 3ABN radio and my wife, 39:34 praise the Lord is doing something 39:36 she never thought she would ever do. 39:37 No. 39:39 Producing and editing programs on 3ABN radio. 39:42 But now talk about some of the need that you have 39:44 because there are future projects 39:46 that the Chippewa Valley Seventh-day Adventist Church 39:49 want to be involved and you just alluded 39:50 to some of those tables when it comes to, 39:53 is that a county fair is that what I'm... 39:55 It's a large many county fair, it's a district... 39:58 It's called North, North Wisconsin State Fair. 40:00 Yeah. 40:01 It's next to Marquette State Fair, 40:04 well, Chippewa Falls has, kind of adapted or whatever 40:08 to the Northern Wisconsin State Fair. 40:12 So talk about some of the needs that you foresee being there, 40:16 so that we could challenge our viewers and listeners 40:19 to participate in that because, 40:21 "Hey, the need for funds to get some all of these books, 40:26 continue to inspire the production 40:28 of more T-shirts get out of the community. 40:30 I mean, we people like to get involve in that. 40:33 I guess, I would just like to, 40:36 there's a couple other ministries 40:38 that are being done that I'd just like 40:40 to touch on really quickly. 40:42 Sure. 40:43 One is our home and school coordinator 40:44 Darcy Peterson has been coordinating a 5K 40:47 for the last couple of years, 40:48 and all the proceeds from that 5K 40:50 go to the city of Altoona for parks equipment. 40:53 So that's kind of put us on the map 40:55 in terms of that locally. 40:57 And pastor, wonderfully, 41:01 we have a wonderful musically talented pastor 41:04 who has done a really wonderful Easter program 41:06 with the entire church the last two years. 41:08 I mean, everybody gets involved, 41:10 the kids and I wish I had thought 41:11 to put bring pictures of that. 41:13 And this year when we did the Easter program, 41:15 pastor suggested that we take a free will donation 41:19 in the two evenings of the show 41:21 and one night we donated it to Fierce Freedom. 41:24 And the second night we donated to an organization 41:28 called the Chippewa Valley Street ministry, 41:29 which is another one, 41:31 I'm looking at potentially doing some more work with. 41:35 And they literally work, they call it a ministry 41:38 but it's really a service organization 41:41 where they hand out clothing, shoes, gloves to people 41:46 who are homeless in the community 41:47 and they're out two nights a week. 41:48 And what we're looking at possibly is developing 41:52 a Saturday afternoon or Saturday evening team 41:54 from our church but that's always, 41:56 you know, in kind of stay tuned to see where that goes. 42:00 I like that. 42:02 But that's some other things that have been involved. 42:03 So we have an incredibly supportive 42:06 and involved church 42:07 and we have a wonderful group of people 42:09 that show up whenever we say, 42:10 we need volunteers to serve a meal, 42:12 we need volunteers to hand out books, 42:14 there are people there. 42:15 Wow. 42:17 I like the fact that you talked about that 42:18 just getting involved in the community, you know, 42:20 there's a principle, there's a... 42:24 I call it a reciprocal principle, 42:26 "Give and it shall be given to you." 42:29 Absolutely. You know. 42:30 Amen. 42:31 Press down, shaken together and running over, 42:33 and so as your church gets involved 42:35 in giving to the community. 42:37 It's amazing 'cause a lot of churches get involved 42:40 and how much money can we raise coming into our coffers. 42:44 But I'm listening carefully and what church is doing 42:48 as you're raising money to make a difference in this area, 42:52 that area in different parts of the community. 42:55 And the Lord is blessing your bottom line 42:58 in your own church 42:59 because the membership is saying, 43:01 we exist, we have a purpose. 43:04 Right. 43:05 And God is inspiring us to do other things. 43:08 Anything else, anybody else you want to add to the story 43:10 because I know that you showed a large contingency of people 43:13 that were on that screen. 43:15 And praise the Lord that your pastor 43:16 is a significant part of the inspiration 43:18 that makes the difference. 43:19 But what are some of the things that you see 43:23 being a part of the future outreach 43:25 of your church, Marcia? 43:28 I would just carry on 43:29 and if God gives us another idea 43:31 we would be, you know, blessed to follow it. 43:34 I mean, one of the things 43:36 we were sincerely thinking of doing 43:38 and it's still going round and round in the brain 43:41 is that our church has the distinctive doctrine 43:46 of the sanctuary. 43:48 And we were really considering trying to do 43:53 a little bit of an outreach at the fair 43:55 just showing the sanctuary model. 43:58 Basically asking, where is Jesus now 44:00 and what is He doing, 44:02 and then tying that enlist you can hear more 44:04 on the radio station, you could read more 44:06 in the family home Christian book sanctuary, 44:09 childrens classics. 44:10 They are trying to wrap it all up into one. 44:14 So that's a project still in the works. 44:18 I guess, if I would say anything to anybody, 44:23 God is speaking to our hearts all the time. 44:26 And, you know, sometimes we take an idea 44:29 and we just let it pass through like Orv said. 44:33 But if you keep swinging it back, 44:36 I think it's really best to listen. 44:38 That's right. 44:39 And as we listen, you know, to just trust 44:41 that He'll bring us the people to do 44:44 what we're supposed to do and to just go forward. 44:47 And I especially enjoy getting to understand 44:52 Michelle's approach to community service better too 44:55 because I can see how the chance 44:59 to form partnerships all in the community 45:01 serves a dual purpose of getting our name out 45:05 just here we are basis as well in giving people 45:10 the opportunity to serve, 45:12 as well as actually performing the service. 45:15 And so I really like that approach 45:17 to community service. 45:18 Orv and I did not grow up Adventist 45:20 and Michelle didn't it either. 45:22 We're actually, Orv and I 45:24 are the product of evangelism campaign, 45:27 where Dan Bensinger came by and... 45:30 1994. 45:31 January, no, December 10th, 1994 we were baptized. 45:35 Amen. 45:36 Yeah, he was actually a spiritualist minister 45:39 and we met at a seance a long time ago 45:42 so God has done a tremendous work on us, 45:44 He had a lot of cleaning up to do on us... 45:46 No. Did a really good job. 45:48 And I found out that Michelle and I were both raised 45:50 in the same faith in the past. 45:53 And you actually were introduced 45:56 to the faith at evangelism seminar. 45:59 Yep, I, my sister married an Adventist 46:01 and I was 16 or 17 46:04 and she took me to an evangelism series 46:06 and it took me a few years, I think about 17 46:09 but before I actually set foot in the church. 46:11 Wow. 46:13 What a transformation to come out from a seance. 46:15 Yeah. 46:16 I mean that's the Lord, the Holy Spirit broken 46:19 and that's a beautiful thing about it, 46:21 there are spirits out there which you all know now 46:23 when you talk about that. 46:25 All too well and forth. 46:26 That's another program on another day. 46:28 But how God, how God finds us... 46:32 Amen. And gives us a purpose? 46:34 Yes, yes. 46:35 And now you're unashamed of the gospel, you know, 46:36 sharing that in the beautiful way, you know, 46:38 I want to give the opportunity to those who are watching 46:41 the program to get the address. 46:43 And we're gonna come back with a song 46:45 and then we're gonna go to a news break 46:47 and then give you an opportunity to wrap it up 46:49 on the other side of our news break. 46:51 But here is the information that you need to be able 46:54 to participate whether prayerfully or financially 46:57 in the outreach of the Chippewa Valley 46:59 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 47:04 If you would like to contact this church, 47:06 then you can do so by writing 47:07 to Chippewa Valley Seventh-day Adventist Church, 47:10 919 10th Street West, Altoona, Wisconsin 54720. 47:16 That's, Chippewa Valley Seventh-day Adventist Church, 47:19 919 10th Street West, Altoona, Wisconsin 54720. 47:25 You can call (715) 834-1782. 47:29 That's (715) 834-1782. 47:33 Or visit them online at CVAdventist.LakeUnion.org. 47:39 That's CVAdventist.LakeUnion.org. 47:49 Chippewa Valley, tell me about that area, is it mountainous? 47:54 Is it just 'cause Wisconsin, Chippewa, 47:57 I think of Native Americans. 47:59 You know, a lot of people that, 48:01 you talked about some of the challenges 48:03 in the community, you mentioned drug, 48:05 and they're veterans and they're homeless. 48:08 So you see a church reaching out 48:11 and making a difference in those areas. 48:12 Tell me, give me some of that insight 48:15 of how your church not only through these programs 48:18 but how you see a church fitting in to continue 48:22 to be a lighthouse in that area. 48:26 Well, our church is growing. 48:28 In fact, we're starting to look at a new building 48:31 or possibly building, 48:32 so that's a benefit of our church outreach. 48:36 Okay. Yeah. 48:38 And so you just put in God's hands 48:44 through prayer and He'll lead you. 48:47 That's right. 48:48 But it takes a lot of work, I mean, it's, I mean, 48:49 let's face it, you have to get up 48:51 and you have to do things. 48:52 That's right. You know, and so. 48:54 Well, as you begin I also see the only place 48:56 that success comes before work is in the dictionary. 49:00 I'm sure, you've heard that before. 49:02 And Michelle, Michelle has a newfound drive 49:05 and passion to get out in the community, 49:07 social work was one way 49:09 but now the Lord has bent your tree 49:11 a different direction. 49:12 I think so, absolutely 49:13 and I've been in magistrate position 49:15 for the last few years, 49:16 and so I don't get as much of direct care that I think. 49:20 I need, I think I was born a social worker. 49:22 And but, you know, again 49:24 I just want people to understand 49:26 that you don't have to be a social worker 49:27 to be able to do this, 49:29 you just have to fit, finely ask some questions 49:31 and get out in your community. 49:32 And you can find where those needs are 49:34 and you can meet them you don't, 49:35 you don't have to have the same background, 49:36 they have an advantage but anybody can do it. 49:39 That's right. 49:41 And we've seen the same thing in Marcia's life 49:43 and both of you together are serving the Lord, 49:45 where He took you from and where He has planted you. 49:49 Right. Ain't that wonderful? 49:50 It's wonderful. 49:52 And, you know, and the context of this next song 49:54 before we go to our news break, 49:56 I could see this is so true in the lives of a Michelle, 50:00 Marcia and Orv, 50:01 "I've Never Loved Him Better Than Today." 50:04 Amen. 50:18 Since Jesus came and found me 50:21 And He put His arms around me 50:24 And no my binding fetters took away 50:30 Although I loved Him dearly 50:33 And trusted Him sincerely 50:36 I've never loved Him better than today 50:42 I've never loved Him better than today 50:48 I've never felt Him closer along the way 50:54 And though has sweet the feeling 50:57 when in His presence kneeling 51:00 I've never loved Him better than today 51:09 Oh, blessed friend supernal, 51:12 My hope and joy eternal 51:15 Keep now my soul 'til shadows flee away 51:21 Anoint me I would pray, Lord 51:24 Till ends this pilgrims way, Lord 51:27 I've never loved Him better than today 51:33 I've never loved Him better than today 51:39 I've never felt Him closer along the way 51:45 And though has sweet the feeling 51:48 When in His presence kneeling 51:51 I've never loved Him better than today 51:57 I've never loved Him better 52:00 No, I've never loved Him better 52:03 No, I've never loved Him better than today |
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