I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you again for joining
us as you do each and every day.
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And you know again,
we can't thank you enough
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for your prayers
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and your financial
support of the ministry of 3ABN
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because if it weren't for
you and the Lord Jesus Christ,
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3ABN wouldn't be able to spread
the gospel around the world.
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And it's a blessing to
be able to join with you
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as team members.
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You know, you have
the people here at 3ABN
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that work behind the scenes,
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maybe in front
of the camera, some,
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but also you at home
are very, very important,
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especially for your prayers,
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and again, your
financial support.
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Thank you for standing with us,
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some of you for
many, many years.
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Now I love that song,
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you know, you
just watch the open
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and it's talking
about mending broken people.
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And today, we'll just hear
a testimony of the ministry.
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We're actually gonna
be talking about a school,
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the Holbrook Indian School
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is really talking about
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really, you can say
mending broken people.
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And all of us,
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you know, God can
use us in multiple ways.
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So all of us have a ministry.
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We're talking about this
school in particular today.
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And, boy, some
amazing testimonies
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of how God has
worked in people's lives,
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how God is using the school.
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So make sure you don't
turn the television off,
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or turn the radio off,
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or if you're watching
online, turn you computer off.
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You want to stay tuned
and see how God is working.
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But, you know,
we're talking about
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how God can use all of us.
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It's easy sometimes
to say, "Oh, that's them.
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I don't know what
God's given me to do."
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But, you know, God has a purpose
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for each one of us.
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So we want to encourage you
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to whatever
talent God has given you
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to use it for Him.
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And you can't
go wrong with that.
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But anyway, I don't
want to talk too much
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so, sweetie, tell us
who we have here today.
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We are excited about
our special program today.
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We do have Holbrook
Indian School with us.
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And as you
mentioned, sweetheart,
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each one of us are
broken in some way,
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but the Lord,
Jesus Christ came that
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He would bring
deliverance to the captives,
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to set at liberty
those who are abound
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and to pour in the
oil of His Holy Spirit,
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to bring comfort,
peace, and healing.
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And so in a special way,
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this school ministers to
those who are broken or alone,
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and brings healing and hope.
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And we are so
excited to have them here.
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We have some testimonies,
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testimonies right here
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on the set of what God
is doing in their lives.
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So we want to introduce
them to you at this time.
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Sitting right here on my right
is Jovannah Poor Bear-Adams,
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did I get that name?
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Perfect.
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And we welcome you.
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And tell us, what is
your role with Holbrook?
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Well, right now, I'm
the dean of Student Services
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and Programming.
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And what that means is,
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I just developed
different programming
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to encompass and
connect bridges at our school,
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and developed a dorm curriculum
through this school year
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'cause we get a
wide range of students,
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1st through 12th grade.
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And there's a lot of
stuff we cover, hygiene,
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and how to brush your
teeth with some of them,
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all the way up into
coping skills and study skills.
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So there's a
wide range of things
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that our kids need in the dorm
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and that's one of the
things that I do there.
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Amen.
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Now you have an...
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Jovannah has an
amazing testimony.
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And we want to
unpackage your testimony
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during the interview here.
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You went to Holbrook
and how God used the school
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and other methods to
bring healing to your life.
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And now you're giving back,
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so we're excited to
hear your testimony.
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And sitting next to
you is Adrienna Billy.
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And, Adrienna, you're
currently a student there,
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is that correct?
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Yes.
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And tell us what your
role is, what your grade is.
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And you actually have a
student office there too.
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So tell us about it?
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Well, I am a Student Association
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Religious Vice President.
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And my role there
is to help the students
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become more closer to God
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because lots of kids
who're in a reservation,
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they really grow
up knowing about God,
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and so they grew
apparently traditional.
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So most of them may not like it
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when, like, I go
out or doing activity
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that has to do
something with God.
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But I respect that, so
I really don't push them.
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But then, still lots of
people like most set of students
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there at the
school, they know a lot now.
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And so it's kind of like my job
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to really get them closer to God
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and to let them know
that God is there with them.
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Amen.
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Well, that's wonderful
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and we want to
hear your testimony too.
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And sitting at the
far end is Loren Fish.
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And you and your
wife moved to Holbrook
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just a couple of years ago.
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And what is your role there?
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Yes, thanks for having us.
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I'm a clinical counselor
there at Holbrook Indian School.
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And it's an honor to be
able to work with the students
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and have a counseling
center right there on campus.
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It's much more convenient,
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provides Christian
counseling for the students.
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Amen.
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It's a blessing, isn't it,
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to be able to work
for the Lord, isn't it?
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Got to see lives being changed,
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you're building the
relationship with God,
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isn't that neat?
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It's so exciting.
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And you're talking about too,
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Adrienna, far as,
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you know, building
the relationship, right?
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You're talking
to other students,
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your fellow
students that you're with.
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That is just great
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You can't go
wrong with that. Amen.
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Well, we're
excited about the program
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and to hear the testimonies
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and stories of what
God's doing in the school,
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the Holbrook Indian School.
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But before we do that,
we have music, sweetheart.
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And you have a
scripture as well, don't you?
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Yeah, you know, that's right.
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Yes, we have Philippians 1:6.
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And this is what
Loren especially liked.
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Yeah, there's, yes. Oh, yeah.
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Do you have that
one actually, Loren?
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You want to read that actually
for us to change it up here?
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I do. I do.
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Philippians 1:6,
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"Being confident
of this very thing,
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that he who has
begun a good work in you
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will complete it until
the day of Jesus Christ."
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And why is that important?
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Why is that one your favorite?
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I know there's
many in the Bible.
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As a clinical counselor there
at Holbrook SDA Indian school,
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I don't always
get to see the result
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of my work with the students.
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I don't always
get to see the fruits
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of even the spiritual
seeds they're planted.
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And so for me, it
gives me confidence
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that God's in
charge of these changes
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that are going on and not me.
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And so this is a
promise that I hold dear to,
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I have it on the
wall in my office.
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You know, that's great.
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I think, one of the word,
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keyword you
mentioned there is promise.
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You know, and God has a promise.
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He is committed
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that, yeah, He'll
complete it and finish it.
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Amen, that's a great text.
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We do want to go to
music like we mentioned.
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Then we'll get
into a full story here.
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And we have Natalia
Nesteruk here with us today.
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And she's gonna be
singing a beautiful song,
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"Prayer for a Friend".
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Lord, I lift my friend to You
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I've done all that I know to do
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I lift my friend to You
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Complicated circumstances
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Have clouded his view
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Lord, I lift my friend up to You
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I fear that I
won't have the words
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That he needs to hear
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I pray for Your wisdom, oh God
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And a heart that's sincere
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Lord, I lift my friend up to You
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Lord, I lift my friend to You
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My best friend
in the world I know
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He means much more to You
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I want so much to help him
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But this is
something he has to do
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And Lord, I lift
my friend up to You
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'Cause there's a way
that seems so right to him
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But You know where that leads
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He's becoming a
puppet of the world
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Too blind to see the strings
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Lord, I lift my friend up to You
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My friend up to You
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Lord, I lift my friend to You
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I've done all that I know to do
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I lift my friend to You
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Amen.
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What a powerful song,
"Lift my fried up to you".
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You know, isn't that
great? All of us can pray.
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We're talking
about the ministry.
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And thank you for praying
for the ministry of 3ABN.
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All these other ministries like
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the Holbrook Indian
Seventh-day Adventist School.
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I tell you, ministry is around
the world and also our friends.
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It could be...
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This is the
powerful thing of prayer
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is that you can be
going down the street.
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Sometimes, Jill and
I will be doing this.
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And then, ambulance will
go by, just sirens blaring.
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We have no clue who
is in the ambulance,
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what emergency they're going to,
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but the power of prayer!
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And then we always say,
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"Let's stop and pray
right now," as we're driving.
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You can pray and say,
"Lord, be with that person
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whatever the
emergency situation is."
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So, wow, what a powerful song!
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Thank you, Natalia.
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Amen.
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If you're just joining us,
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we have Holbrook
Indian School with us.
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And we have
Jovannah Poor Bear-Adams,
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and Adrienna
Billy, and Loren Fish.
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And we want to
unpackage your story
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and hear more about
the Holbrook Indian School.
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But before we go to that,
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we wanted to go
to a special roll.
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Terry Benedict was at the school
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some time ago,
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and produced this short
film, short documentary.
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It features some of
your story, Jovannah,
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and then some other statistics.
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And we want to use it
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as our
springboard for discussion.
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So let's go to
that roll at this time.
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Just tell it like it is.
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Well, let me try in and do that.
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When the
Christian boarding school
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first came into
existence here in America,
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the motto and the
driving force behind it
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was to "kill the
Indian and save the man".
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And that is the
part of the stigma
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that a lot of tribes, a
lot of native Americans,
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especially
traditional native Americans
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carry against schools like us.
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Our school is not
about killing the Indian.
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It's not about killing
what is native in the kids.
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It is about healing them.
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It is about
claiming their identity,
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their culture, their
faith, their, themselves.
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I was molested by
one of my step dads
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for a year and a half,
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maybe two years
before I even knew anything,
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even before I was...
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I was afraid that my
mom was gonna be mad at me
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that it was my fault
for not saying anything
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or my fault for pretending
I was sleeping every time.
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You know, I was
raped by my older cousin.
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And I remember telling
him that he was hurting me.
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And he said I was getting...
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he was getting me
ready to be an adult.
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And so what that told
me was being an adult hurts
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and it's something that
you just have to deal with it.
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It's something
that just happens,
00:14:22.36\00:14:23.69
it's gonna happen
all through your life.
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You're going to hurt.
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People are going to hurt you.
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They're going to use
your body for themselves
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for the rest of your life.
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And that was my reality.
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Jovannah, what are
you feeling right now?
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I feel sick.
00:15:12.31\00:15:13.64
I feel like people
shouldn't have to go
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through this.
00:15:28.72\00:15:30.06
I know that these kids
live in this right now.
00:15:34.60\00:15:38.97
I know that when
I go into the dorm
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and I talk to those girls,
00:15:41.57\00:15:42.90
and I tell them about who
I am and where I came from,
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I can see it on their faces
that they're in it right now.
00:15:47.08\00:15:51.35
And when we call CPS
00:15:51.38\00:15:52.88
because somebody's step
dad is sexually abusing them,
00:15:52.91\00:15:55.65
and CPS does nothing about it,
00:15:55.68\00:15:57.85
or the tribe
does nothing about it.
00:15:57.89\00:15:59.49
And they still
have to go home to that
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and they have to
stay with their mom
00:16:01.76\00:16:03.56
who blames them for
their step dad having to leave
00:16:03.59\00:16:06.49
or having to go to jail.
00:16:06.53\00:16:08.53
It makes me sick.
00:16:08.56\00:16:11.73
They shouldn't
have to go through this.
00:16:11.77\00:16:15.30
And if they do,
00:16:15.34\00:16:16.67
if they have to go through this,
00:16:16.71\00:16:18.04
it shouldn't be normal.
00:16:18.07\00:16:19.47
They shouldn't feel like
this is just the way it is
00:16:19.51\00:16:22.74
and this is the way
it's always gonna be,
00:16:22.78\00:16:24.41
and that's what you
just have to accept.
00:16:24.45\00:16:26.41
I don't want to
be stuck on the edge,
00:16:42.66\00:16:44.93
because once you're on the edge,
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you stay on the edge.
00:16:46.67\00:16:48.54
And I want to
start something new.
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The one thing my
grandpa taught me
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is that God's there for you.
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You just keep looking
forward, don't look backward.
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That's why I came to Holbrook.
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And Holbrook's been my home.
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When I'm riding horses,
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it does feels amazing
00:17:16.20\00:17:17.80
because it's
silent, it's peaceful.
00:17:17.83\00:17:21.44
The only thing you can
hear is just the birds chirping
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and the breeze under leaves.
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I feel more myself
00:17:29.24\00:17:33.21
when I conquered my fears
and riding horses and stuff.
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And I have no reason to
be scared of it, the horse,
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because they're just horses.
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When I run, it just,
it feels like home to me.
00:18:02.14\00:18:05.55
I just like the
smell of the trees
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and, you know, I can just...
00:18:07.62\00:18:09.38
I like the feeling of the dirt.
00:18:09.42\00:18:12.65
My brothers, they
drink and they smoke.
00:18:12.69\00:18:17.93
I don't like that.
00:18:17.96\00:18:19.56
So I tried to get
away from it as possible.
00:18:19.59\00:18:23.93
I decided I wanted
to come to Holbrook.
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And when I got there, I
noticed it was different.
00:18:26.67\00:18:31.97
I noticed the kids there
were a lot more different.
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They weren't so
mean or so irritating.
00:18:35.38\00:18:39.25
The teachers too,
they were really different.
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They didn't seem so mean
00:18:41.68\00:18:43.08
or they just seem calm and nice.
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They really helped
you with all your stuff,
00:18:47.29\00:18:48.86
your education.
00:18:48.89\00:18:51.96
I believe that
this school provided
00:18:51.99\00:18:53.60
more that just a 100 percent
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and I like that
and it's awesome.
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I've seen kids coming
here and trust no one.
00:19:02.14\00:19:08.44
I've seen them
coming here addicted
00:19:08.48\00:19:13.08
to anything that
you can be addicted to,
00:19:13.11\00:19:15.15
anything they can
get their hands on,
00:19:15.18\00:19:17.59
anything that numbs.
00:19:17.62\00:19:20.79
I've seen them
coming here homeless.
00:19:20.82\00:19:22.39
We've had kids coming
here and stay in the dorms
00:19:22.42\00:19:25.79
because they're
too afraid to go home.
00:19:25.83\00:19:29.66
And I've seen
them change from that.
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There are people who
may want to see numbers.
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They want to see how many
people were baptized that year.
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But there is more
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when a kid learns
to trust somebody,
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or when they're
being abused at home,
00:19:47.55\00:19:50.69
or someone's
yelling and they can call.
00:19:50.72\00:19:53.12
They can call me, or
they can call the pastor,
00:19:53.15\00:19:55.02
or they can call the teacher.
00:19:55.06\00:19:56.39
And they can say,
"Come, pick me up. I'm scared."
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That's worth it,
00:20:00.20\00:20:03.57
because they have
nobody before that.
00:20:03.60\00:20:07.20
When I look back at my life,
00:20:07.24\00:20:09.54
I love, I love
my experience here.
00:20:09.57\00:20:11.91
And it's where I changed
00:20:11.94\00:20:14.38
and then I
changed more in college.
00:20:14.41\00:20:17.05
And then I changed more
00:20:17.08\00:20:18.78
when I came back to school here.
00:20:18.81\00:20:20.62
And I can tell you I
am still living my dream.
00:20:20.65\00:20:24.12
I'm living it.
00:20:30.36\00:20:31.69
Thank you so much Terry Benedict
00:22:03.65\00:22:05.59
for putting that together.
00:22:05.62\00:22:06.96
I understand he
volunteered his time,
00:22:06.99\00:22:09.16
is that correct,
00:22:09.19\00:22:10.53
to put this together and
he did an incredible job.
00:22:10.56\00:22:13.13
Absolutely, he did.
00:22:13.16\00:22:14.96
Heavy duty statistics. It is.
00:22:15.00\00:22:16.90
Yeah, and what
amazing testimony.
00:22:16.93\00:22:18.80
And as I sat and watched that,
00:22:18.83\00:22:21.07
I had the opportunity to see it
right before the program here.
00:22:21.10\00:22:26.07
And I just sat
and cried a minute.
00:22:26.11\00:22:28.51
It's heavy topic,
00:22:28.54\00:22:31.41
difficult thing, Jovannah,
that you've had to deal with.
00:22:31.45\00:22:36.99
Is that, I know you said
00:22:37.02\00:22:38.35
it was normal in
your home growing up,
00:22:38.39\00:22:40.56
but is that
normal, would you say,
00:22:40.59\00:22:42.39
across the board
for many growing up?
00:22:42.42\00:22:46.09
One of things that as
you cross reservations
00:22:46.13\00:22:49.40
all across the United States,
00:22:49.43\00:22:50.77
and actually, that's
more than 500 registered
00:22:50.80\00:22:54.80
native American
tribes in the United States.
00:22:54.84\00:22:57.91
But overwhelmingly
as you learn about them,
00:22:57.94\00:23:01.14
there is high
alcohol, high diabetes,
00:23:01.18\00:23:05.91
high abuse rates
across the board.
00:23:05.95\00:23:09.98
There are people who
manage and they work very hard
00:23:10.02\00:23:14.42
to create healthy
environments for their families
00:23:14.46\00:23:16.76
but it's few and far between.
00:23:16.79\00:23:18.89
And there are reservations,
00:23:18.93\00:23:20.26
as a whole that are
doing very, very well.
00:23:20.30\00:23:22.53
But again, that's
few and far between,
00:23:22.56\00:23:25.53
across the 500
plus that there are.
00:23:25.57\00:23:28.40
Would say this is
generational like,
00:23:28.44\00:23:30.61
this is how I was raised
00:23:30.64\00:23:31.97
and then you pass
it down to your kids,
00:23:32.01\00:23:33.74
like that cycle of dysfunction,
that cycle of abuse?
00:23:33.78\00:23:36.98
Would you say that
continues generationally?
00:23:37.01\00:23:39.45
Definitely. Okay.
00:23:39.48\00:23:40.82
One of the places
that it started again
00:23:40.85\00:23:42.78
as the United
States was being colonized,
00:23:42.82\00:23:46.22
it was a
breaking down of a people.
00:23:46.25\00:23:49.69
First by completely
trying to eliminate them.
00:23:49.72\00:23:54.10
And then breaking them down
00:23:54.13\00:23:56.70
like the video had
said to kill the Indian
00:23:56.73\00:23:58.57
and save the man,
00:23:58.60\00:23:59.93
to break down
what's native in them.
00:23:59.97\00:24:01.30
Their identity as native people,
00:24:01.34\00:24:03.37
to break that down.
00:24:03.41\00:24:04.74
And that is what
started this cycle of abuse,
00:24:04.77\00:24:07.41
broken people,
raising broken people
00:24:07.44\00:24:11.35
and it continuing down the line.
00:24:11.38\00:24:13.85
And that's what
we're dealing with today
00:24:13.88\00:24:15.42
is that long history
of abuse and brokenness.
00:24:15.45\00:24:19.72
Yes.
00:24:19.75\00:24:21.09
So how did you, I just
want to know some of your story.
00:24:21.12\00:24:23.69
How did you first
hear about Holbrook?
00:24:23.73\00:24:25.83
And first of all, tell
us what tribe you're from?
00:24:25.86\00:24:28.63
I'm in Oglala Lakota Sioux.
00:24:28.66\00:24:30.17
I'm from the Pine Ridge Indian
Reservation in South Dakota.
00:24:30.20\00:24:33.70
And if you're not
familiar with that,
00:24:33.74\00:24:35.97
it is the tribe of Crazy Horse.
00:24:36.00\00:24:37.91
Okay, we know about him, so.
Was actually from that tribe.
00:24:37.94\00:24:39.94
Yeah.
00:24:39.97\00:24:41.31
Good.
00:24:41.34\00:24:42.68
A big, amazing
monument, Crazy Horse.
00:24:42.71\00:24:44.51
Yes.
00:24:44.55\00:24:45.88
Right next to Mountain Rushmore.
00:24:45.91\00:24:47.25
Yeah, right next to it.
00:24:47.28\00:24:49.62
In, on our
reservation specifically,
00:24:49.65\00:24:53.29
it's much smaller.
00:24:53.32\00:24:54.66
Again, it's one
of the larger ones,
00:24:54.69\00:24:56.02
but the Navajo reservation
00:24:56.06\00:24:57.39
is the largest in
the United States.
00:24:57.43\00:24:59.03
And that's where our
school is just off of.
00:24:59.06\00:25:02.43
But on our reservation I
grew up on and off of it.
00:25:02.46\00:25:07.04
It's a, like the
properties around it
00:25:07.07\00:25:11.17
are like farmers and ranchers.
00:25:11.21\00:25:14.48
And I had
experienced like the video said
00:25:14.51\00:25:18.78
being sexually
abused, being raped.
00:25:18.81\00:25:21.52
My mom had been
married four times
00:25:21.55\00:25:23.95
and divorced four times
00:25:23.99\00:25:25.32
by the time that
I was 16 years old.
00:25:25.35\00:25:27.62
Wow.
00:25:27.66\00:25:29.32
And...
00:25:29.36\00:25:30.69
Did you tell anyone?
00:25:30.73\00:25:32.06
Did you try to reached
out to your mom and say,
00:25:32.09\00:25:34.03
"Hey, this is
what's going on to me,"
00:25:34.06\00:25:35.56
or were you too
ashamed to say anything or...?
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.93
I was very scared.
00:25:37.97\00:25:39.30
One of the thing is
00:25:39.33\00:25:40.67
I knew that it was
supposed to be a secret.
00:25:40.70\00:25:43.61
And I was afraid, I
was afraid of my step dad,
00:25:43.64\00:25:47.04
I was afraid that
if I did tell somebody
00:25:47.08\00:25:49.94
that they would blame it on me.
00:25:49.98\00:25:52.68
And the truth is
00:25:52.71\00:25:54.52
when I told my
mom, she stood by me.
00:25:54.55\00:25:56.48
Oh, did she? She did.
00:25:56.52\00:25:57.85
She divorced
him, we went to court,
00:25:57.89\00:26:00.76
the court didn't
necessarily stand by us.
00:26:00.79\00:26:03.96
We got a restraining
order and that's a...
00:26:03.99\00:26:07.10
like the extent of that.
00:26:07.13\00:26:09.86
But a lot of our
students and a lot of people,
00:26:09.90\00:26:12.17
they either don't
report it or when they do
00:26:12.20\00:26:14.17
or they tell their parents
00:26:14.20\00:26:16.74
they might get
it blamed on them.
00:26:16.77\00:26:18.44
We've had students
who have come forward
00:26:18.47\00:26:21.28
and the parents say,
00:26:21.31\00:26:23.01
"Oh, I don't understand,
00:26:23.04\00:26:24.38
this is, this
happened to me and I'm fine.
00:26:24.41\00:26:26.28
I don't know why she is making
such a big deal about this."
00:26:26.31\00:26:28.52
Wow.
00:26:28.55\00:26:29.88
And so...
00:26:29.92\00:26:31.25
So it becomes normal. Yeah.
00:26:31.29\00:26:32.65
And it's painfully
so or a painful secret.
00:26:32.69\00:26:39.43
And so that's
something at our school
00:26:39.46\00:26:40.83
that we try to work on.
00:26:40.86\00:26:42.20
This is not pain that
you should have to carry,
00:26:42.23\00:26:44.70
and this isn't
something that you should
00:26:44.73\00:26:47.24
have to hide within yourself.
00:26:47.27\00:26:48.70
It's a,
something you can heal from
00:26:48.74\00:26:50.21
and you should work for that.
00:26:50.24\00:26:53.24
So, I know we're in
the middle of your story
00:26:53.27\00:26:55.54
but it just
made me think, Loren,
00:26:55.58\00:26:57.71
you work is
specifically with counseling,
00:26:57.75\00:26:59.85
so what are some
of the things that you
00:26:59.88\00:27:02.38
and I think you have a
female counselor there too.
00:27:02.42\00:27:04.65
So what are some of the
things that you all work
00:27:04.69\00:27:06.82
with the students who come in
00:27:06.86\00:27:08.19
'cause they would come in
with this background of neglect
00:27:08.22\00:27:10.83
or abuse or trauma,
00:27:10.86\00:27:12.49
obviously not all of them
00:27:12.53\00:27:13.86
but some of them
coming with that?
00:27:13.90\00:27:15.66
I would say about 75 percent
have PTSD symptoms of some kind
00:27:15.70\00:27:20.10
and that's from
various forms of abuse.
00:27:20.14\00:27:23.41
We do have a female counselor,
00:27:23.44\00:27:25.61
she's actually
in her last semester
00:27:25.64\00:27:28.34
of getting her
masters in counseling.
00:27:28.38\00:27:29.74
Wow.
00:27:29.78\00:27:31.11
And, so she is a case
manager right now Giselle Ortiz,
00:27:31.15\00:27:34.68
but she does a
really awesome job
00:27:34.72\00:27:36.05
especially with the girls.
00:27:36.08\00:27:37.42
She does things,
00:27:37.45\00:27:38.79
she works with them
in ways that I can't.
00:27:38.82\00:27:40.16
Of course, She has girls groups
00:27:40.19\00:27:42.59
with the different age levels,
00:27:42.62\00:27:45.49
elementary, middle
school and high school.
00:27:45.53\00:27:47.70
In fact, Adrienna is the member
00:27:47.73\00:27:49.10
of her high
school girls group, so...
00:27:49.13\00:27:50.50
Wow. Oh, that's great.
00:27:50.53\00:27:51.87
And she works with
them on things like trust
00:27:51.90\00:27:56.14
and especially
finding their worth in Christ.
00:27:56.17\00:28:01.58
Because that's,
a lot of them come,
00:28:01.61\00:28:04.68
when you have abuse of any kind,
00:28:04.71\00:28:06.38
you get negative
beliefs about yourself
00:28:06.41\00:28:09.15
that are produced in
those negative events.
00:28:09.18\00:28:11.72
And so, if my
negative belief about myself
00:28:11.75\00:28:13.82
is that I'm not good
enough or I'm not worthy
00:28:13.86\00:28:15.52
or I'm not lovable,
00:28:15.56\00:28:16.89
then you can say God loves you,
00:28:16.93\00:28:18.99
but if you don't
believe that you're lovable,
00:28:19.03\00:28:21.06
then you're not gonna buy it.
00:28:21.10\00:28:22.50
So a lot of times it's helping
them see themselves differently
00:28:22.53\00:28:25.50
so that they can
allow that perception
00:28:25.53\00:28:29.00
that God does care
for you and loves you.
00:28:29.04\00:28:31.24
Yeah. Wow.
00:28:31.27\00:28:33.54
Yeah, I know that's
powerful, it really is.
00:28:33.58\00:28:35.61
And I'm thinking that
'cause it's just amazing to me
00:28:35.64\00:28:37.61
how, you know, God,
you know, just horrible,
00:28:37.65\00:28:40.72
you know, background, you know,
00:28:40.75\00:28:42.08
as far as, you
know, all the pain
00:28:42.12\00:28:43.45
and abuse in your life
00:28:43.49\00:28:44.82
to how God is using you...
00:28:44.85\00:28:46.59
Now at Holbrook
to work as a vessel
00:28:46.62\00:28:50.16
that God can pour
through to others,
00:28:50.19\00:28:52.23
to help them in their terrible
situations that they are in.
00:28:52.26\00:28:55.56
So I'm just curious
that how did you go,
00:28:55.60\00:28:57.23
I know you went to school,
00:28:57.27\00:28:58.60
but how did you end up
going to Holbrook Indian School?
00:28:58.63\00:29:02.57
Something that...
00:29:02.60\00:29:05.61
On our reservation something
that I had decided for myself
00:29:05.64\00:29:09.41
in being with my mom
00:29:09.44\00:29:12.21
is that I would
not be stuck there.
00:29:12.25\00:29:14.58
I would not continue there
00:29:14.62\00:29:16.58
and, I
wouldn't, I wouldn't drink
00:29:16.62\00:29:19.62
because something that,
00:29:19.65\00:29:22.32
after my mom decided that
she wasn't going to drink,
00:29:22.36\00:29:24.76
well, we started
going to AA meetings
00:29:24.79\00:29:26.56
and sobriety events
and we went with her.
00:29:26.59\00:29:29.53
I went with her to those things
00:29:29.56\00:29:31.03
and so it was ingrained in me
00:29:31.07\00:29:32.67
that this is not the
way that it should be,
00:29:32.70\00:29:35.00
this is not
something that should continue.
00:29:35.04\00:29:38.11
And after my mom had
taken my step dad to court
00:29:38.14\00:29:42.84
and divorced him
00:29:42.88\00:29:44.21
and it crashed on
her and it crashed on us.
00:29:44.25\00:29:47.58
She left us and she
left us with my grandma
00:29:47.62\00:29:51.05
and she lived two
hours away from us.
00:29:51.09\00:29:54.06
So your mom was
broken because of that...
00:29:54.09\00:29:55.96
Yeah. Okay.
00:29:55.99\00:29:57.33
Look, she's
definitely experienced
00:29:57.36\00:29:58.93
her own trauma,
severe trauma and I believe
00:29:58.96\00:30:02.03
that this triggered in
her that and so she left.
00:30:02.06\00:30:06.20
And we lived on the reservation
on Treaty Land with my grandma.
00:30:06.23\00:30:10.37
And it was there
on the reservation
00:30:10.41\00:30:13.51
that I experienced hunger,
like I had never in my life
00:30:13.54\00:30:16.68
and never since then.
00:30:16.71\00:30:19.18
There were times
00:30:19.21\00:30:20.92
that my grandma would
get her meals on wheels,
00:30:20.95\00:30:26.22
lunch thing and we
would all crowd around her
00:30:26.25\00:30:29.59
and she would open it
up and choose the one thing
00:30:29.62\00:30:33.19
that she was
going to eat out of it
00:30:33.23\00:30:34.96
and then pass it
to the rest of us.
00:30:35.00\00:30:36.50
And we'd be standing around her
00:30:36.53\00:30:37.87
and we take, to get to choose
our one thing out of her meal.
00:30:37.90\00:30:42.74
There was another
time I sat out on the lawn
00:30:42.77\00:30:45.27
and I started eating a weed
that was growing in the lawn
00:30:45.31\00:30:48.24
because I was hungry...
00:30:48.28\00:30:49.61
So hungry.
00:30:49.64\00:30:50.98
And I start eating...
00:30:51.01\00:30:52.35
Final one,
there was another time
00:30:52.38\00:30:54.15
my stomach was so tight
00:30:54.18\00:30:55.75
and there was such
a pain in my stomach
00:30:55.78\00:30:57.55
and I was so young that I
just, I was so smart I knew
00:30:57.59\00:31:01.36
that if I started
swallowing the air
00:31:01.39\00:31:03.06
and I just expanded my
stomach, it would stop hurting.
00:31:03.09\00:31:06.06
And so I just
started taking big copes
00:31:06.09\00:31:08.06
to make the pain
stop in my stomach.
00:31:08.10\00:31:11.47
And just...
00:31:11.50\00:31:12.83
I'm sorry.
00:31:12.87\00:31:14.20
You know, I mean, I'm sorry
for what you've experienced.
00:31:14.24\00:31:16.67
That's a lot of pain.
00:31:16.71\00:31:18.17
I sincerely believe that
this whole process, this,
00:31:18.21\00:31:23.91
the life that I
grew up in the way
00:31:23.95\00:31:25.95
that I grew up
prepared me for the work
00:31:25.98\00:31:28.08
that I'm in right now.
00:31:28.12\00:31:29.45
And it's one of the
reasons that I work so hard
00:31:29.48\00:31:31.79
at what I'm doing.
00:31:31.82\00:31:33.15
The reason we try and
my families where we are,
00:31:33.19\00:31:36.52
it's because God was
preparing me for this work,
00:31:36.56\00:31:40.23
to work with native people.
00:31:40.26\00:31:41.90
Yes. Yes.
00:31:41.93\00:31:43.26
When I was in the eighth
grade, I had started drinking,
00:31:43.30\00:31:47.90
I started getting
high and going out.
00:31:47.94\00:31:51.57
And it wasn't until my
little sister had told me
00:31:51.61\00:31:53.88
that she hated me
00:31:53.91\00:31:56.68
that I realized I had
become what I had feared.
00:31:56.71\00:31:59.81
Yeah.
00:31:59.85\00:32:01.18
What you had seen growing
up, you're turning into that.
00:32:01.22\00:32:03.49
Yes, I was just
continuing that process.
00:32:03.52\00:32:07.36
And a friend of mine,
her uncle had actually gone
00:32:07.39\00:32:10.33
to Holbrook Indian School
00:32:10.36\00:32:12.29
and he was Seventh-day Adventist
00:32:12.33\00:32:13.66
and which I had
not even heard about.
00:32:13.70\00:32:15.46
I didn't know that
he was even Christian
00:32:15.50\00:32:18.47
because there's not
very many Christians
00:32:18.50\00:32:20.47
on the reservation.
00:32:20.50\00:32:23.51
Adrienna is very fortunate
00:32:23.54\00:32:25.07
to come from a Christian family.
00:32:25.11\00:32:27.14
Her mom has
taken them to church,
00:32:27.18\00:32:30.38
and taken them and
taught her family about God,
00:32:30.41\00:32:34.25
but that's not very
common on the reservation.
00:32:34.28\00:32:37.29
What would be the
religion of most of the Indians
00:32:37.32\00:32:40.16
on the reservation?
00:32:40.19\00:32:42.16
Most of our students, well,
00:32:42.19\00:32:44.13
a lot of them come
from traditional beliefs.
00:32:44.16\00:32:46.39
Maybe not practicing very much,
00:32:46.43\00:32:49.20
but they come from a
traditional understanding.
00:32:49.23\00:32:52.33
And a lot of people don't think,
00:32:52.37\00:32:55.94
the nicest way to say,
00:32:55.97\00:32:57.31
very fondly of
Christians or Christianity.
00:32:57.34\00:33:00.04
When I had actually
become Seventh-day Adventist
00:33:00.08\00:33:03.01
and I was baptized,
I had told my mother
00:33:03.04\00:33:05.51
that I could no
longer do ceremonies,
00:33:05.55\00:33:07.92
I couldn't
participate in the ceremonies.
00:33:07.95\00:33:12.15
And what she had told me
00:33:12.19\00:33:13.52
was that I had
turned my back on my family,
00:33:13.56\00:33:16.42
and on my people, and on her.
00:33:16.46\00:33:19.29
And she had told me
that she loved me so much,
00:33:19.33\00:33:24.17
past tense that she
had loved me so much
00:33:24.20\00:33:27.37
and that
everything that I was to her.
00:33:27.40\00:33:29.24
Everything I was gonna do
for my people and my family
00:33:29.27\00:33:31.97
that my younger
sister would take that.
00:33:32.01\00:33:34.14
That was her place now.
00:33:34.18\00:33:35.81
Wow. Oh, boy.
00:33:35.84\00:33:39.28
That's
difficult, I mean, that's,
00:33:39.31\00:33:40.82
did your mom ever
changed or is it still that way?
00:33:40.85\00:33:44.32
My mom is actually, probably
she's grown so much then
00:33:44.35\00:33:47.42
and we have grown together.
00:33:47.46\00:33:49.52
We didn't talk about
it for probably two years.
00:33:49.56\00:33:52.29
Wow.
00:33:52.33\00:33:53.86
And I would go
home and be made fun of
00:33:53.90\00:33:56.87
and sometimes we
still do, we still do.
00:33:56.90\00:34:01.10
But when I
graduated high school,
00:34:01.14\00:34:03.91
in our culture you get
a new traditional outfit.
00:34:03.94\00:34:08.04
And so she had made me
a new traditional outfit,
00:34:08.08\00:34:10.75
new bead work everything.
00:34:10.78\00:34:12.55
And so when I
graduated from Holbrook,
00:34:12.58\00:34:15.02
I wore a new outfit and
she showed me the moccasins
00:34:15.05\00:34:18.55
and on the back of the leggings
was a cross beaded into it.
00:34:18.59\00:34:22.96
And it...
00:34:22.99\00:34:24.39
she did never
said anything about it
00:34:24.43\00:34:26.29
but what it was a
huge identity thing for me.
00:34:26.33\00:34:31.37
It was my traditional moccasins,
00:34:31.40\00:34:34.00
my bead work with
a Christian symbol,
00:34:34.04\00:34:37.01
a symbol of
Christianity in there.
00:34:37.04\00:34:38.87
And so it ties in who I am,
00:34:38.91\00:34:41.68
I'm Native
American and I'm Christian.
00:34:41.71\00:34:43.91
Amen. Amen.
00:34:43.95\00:34:45.28
I love that. So you
went in eighth grade...?
00:34:45.31\00:34:48.38
Ninth grade. Ninth grade.
00:34:48.42\00:34:49.78
You went to Holbrook
00:34:49.82\00:34:51.15
and then you were
there all four years...?
00:34:51.19\00:34:52.52
Yes.
00:34:52.55\00:34:53.89
And where in that process,
what year were you baptized?
00:34:53.92\00:34:56.49
It was during
that or was it after?
00:34:56.52\00:34:58.03
I was baptized
when I was 16 years old
00:34:58.06\00:34:59.89
so I was a sophomore in school.
00:34:59.93\00:35:02.26
And I actually
went to the school
00:35:02.30\00:35:04.73
not wanting to be Christian.
00:35:04.77\00:35:06.47
My mom had said before I left
that she didn't want me to go,
00:35:06.50\00:35:09.94
but that if I was going go then,
00:35:09.97\00:35:12.57
if it's what you have to
do, then go but know this,
00:35:12.61\00:35:16.08
that school, it's
a Christian school
00:35:16.11\00:35:18.01
and they will lie to you.
00:35:18.05\00:35:20.15
They will tell you
anything that they have to,
00:35:20.18\00:35:22.82
to get you to
believe the way that they do.
00:35:22.85\00:35:25.05
And so when I went to
the school I fought it.
00:35:25.09\00:35:27.69
And I tried hard in
everything that I could,
00:35:27.72\00:35:30.73
but I also tried
hard not to be Christian.
00:35:30.76\00:35:33.70
And I had A's that first quarter
00:35:33.73\00:35:36.26
in all of my
classes except for Bible.
00:35:36.30\00:35:40.30
Except for Bible.
00:35:40.34\00:35:41.67
And I was determined,
00:35:41.70\00:35:44.61
I was gonna have perfect grades,
00:35:44.64\00:35:46.07
so I needed to
take a Bible study
00:35:46.11\00:35:47.88
so that I can learn
how pretend to be Christian
00:35:47.91\00:35:51.41
and get an A in this class too.
00:35:51.45\00:35:53.45
And when that Bible study
was finished, I want it more,
00:35:53.48\00:35:56.52
and so I went to
another Bible study with just me
00:35:56.55\00:36:00.66
and a friend of mine
with the some of the staff,
00:36:00.69\00:36:03.43
a husband and a wife.
00:36:03.46\00:36:04.79
And after that Bible study
I had to be a part of this,
00:36:04.83\00:36:09.10
I had to be a
part of the church.
00:36:09.13\00:36:11.93
And I wanted more
of Christ in my life.
00:36:11.97\00:36:14.64
Amen.
00:36:14.67\00:36:16.34
So... Go ahead.
00:36:16.37\00:36:17.71
I was just thinking, So, Loren,
00:36:17.74\00:36:19.07
so then just
describe what Holbrook is
00:36:19.11\00:36:21.34
because, you know, it's actually
00:36:21.38\00:36:23.35
where you would learn
reading, writing and arithmetic,
00:36:23.38\00:36:26.08
so they say it's not
just as like a center for,
00:36:26.11\00:36:30.49
I mean, there' healing
there obviously, you know,
00:36:30.52\00:36:32.19
all the emotional
and all that healing.
00:36:32.22\00:36:33.86
But this is
actually an academic school
00:36:33.89\00:36:35.49
plus you add in all this,
00:36:35.52\00:36:37.86
I guess the
counseling would be a good...
00:36:37.89\00:36:39.49
Yeah.
00:36:39.53\00:36:40.86
Way of describing it.
00:36:40.90\00:36:42.23
We have a
holistic approach there
00:36:42.26\00:36:44.30
at Holbrook SDA Indian School.
00:36:44.33\00:36:47.77
The new U program,
nutrition, exercise and wellness
00:36:47.80\00:36:52.37
that really kind of undermine,
00:36:52.41\00:36:55.14
undergirds a lot
of what we do there.
00:36:55.18\00:36:57.38
We have a horse
program as you saw on the video
00:36:57.41\00:37:00.95
and that can be very
healing for students.
00:37:00.98\00:37:04.09
And we have a garden
program, a garden to play
00:37:04.12\00:37:06.92
where the students can
actually work in the garden,
00:37:06.96\00:37:09.09
get their hands dirty
00:37:09.12\00:37:10.46
and then they get to eat
the product in the cafeteria
00:37:10.49\00:37:12.19
afterwards so...
00:37:12.23\00:37:13.56
Well, that's fun.
00:37:13.60\00:37:14.93
It's very, very, yeah,
very rewarding for them.
00:37:14.96\00:37:17.00
And the counseling
department is just a small part
00:37:17.03\00:37:19.23
of that holistic approach
00:37:19.27\00:37:20.97
where we try to help
them to learn to trust
00:37:21.00\00:37:23.84
not only the staff
there but also God as well.
00:37:23.87\00:37:27.74
And I would think
trust would be a big deal,
00:37:27.78\00:37:29.91
because really
when think about home
00:37:29.94\00:37:31.81
and we think of
home as the place
00:37:31.85\00:37:33.68
where you have the
highest trust for your family.
00:37:33.72\00:37:35.98
And here that's been, I mean,
00:37:36.02\00:37:37.82
totally just
ripped out from under you.
00:37:37.85\00:37:40.56
And so how do you deal with that
00:37:40.59\00:37:42.12
as far as the whole trusting
00:37:42.16\00:37:43.49
because here they
are coming to school,
00:37:43.53\00:37:44.86
they probably
don't know the staff,
00:37:44.89\00:37:46.23
they're trying to know,
00:37:46.26\00:37:47.60
learn some of
the students maybe...
00:37:47.63\00:37:48.96
How do you deal with that?
00:37:49.00\00:37:50.33
It's very interesting,
actually my wife tells a story
00:37:50.37\00:37:53.80
that we'd been
there a few months
00:37:53.84\00:37:55.54
and a student came
up to her and said,
00:37:55.57\00:37:58.14
"So when you guys are leaving?"
00:37:58.17\00:38:00.48
And so there is, there is...
00:38:00.51\00:38:02.18
Oh, what a question.
00:38:02.21\00:38:03.55
"So when are you leaving?" Yeah.
00:38:03.58\00:38:04.91
And there was a staff
just recently came too
00:38:04.95\00:38:07.22
and they were
asked the same thing,
00:38:07.25\00:38:08.58
"When are you leaving?"
00:38:08.62\00:38:09.95
So there is a level of
trust that needs to be build.
00:38:09.98\00:38:13.92
It was very
fortunate for me as a counselor
00:38:13.96\00:38:16.02
that we had the case manager,
Miss Ortiz already there
00:38:16.06\00:38:19.46
because she was able
to establish that trust
00:38:19.49\00:38:21.66
and then sort of hand
some of the students to me
00:38:21.70\00:38:24.07
and say he can help you,
and so that was a huge help.
00:38:24.10\00:38:29.50
But it takes time,
literally it takes time
00:38:29.54\00:38:32.47
and so we have
to be very patient
00:38:32.51\00:38:34.31
and sometimes the
students come there
00:38:34.34\00:38:36.08
and then their
parents take them away
00:38:36.11\00:38:37.65
and then
sometimes they come back.
00:38:37.68\00:38:39.98
But one of the things I like is
that we work with the students
00:38:40.02\00:38:43.79
just because they mess up,
00:38:43.82\00:38:45.15
we're not like,
"Okay, you're out of here..."
00:38:45.19\00:38:46.52
That's good.
00:38:46.55\00:38:47.89
We really take the time to
work with them individually.
00:38:47.92\00:38:50.49
We have individual
plans for each student
00:38:50.53\00:38:52.99
that gets in trouble.
00:38:53.03\00:38:54.36
We say this is
the best way for you
00:38:54.40\00:38:55.73
to get to where you
wanna be 'cause a lot of times,
00:38:55.76\00:38:59.33
I mean even when I was
in a Adventist academy,
00:38:59.37\00:39:02.97
when I was in
high school, you know,
00:39:03.00\00:39:05.27
we'd send the
kids, we're bad apples,
00:39:05.31\00:39:07.84
we'd send them away.
00:39:07.88\00:39:09.21
Yes.
00:39:09.24\00:39:10.58
And to me even as a sophomore
in high school, I said,
00:39:10.61\00:39:13.05
"Man, I said, when I grow
up, I want to be a counselor,
00:39:13.08\00:39:16.35
and I want to live right
near an Adventist academy,
00:39:16.38\00:39:18.75
and I want to work with
those kids to help them.
00:39:18.79\00:39:21.12
And so it's really awesome
00:39:21.16\00:39:22.62
that God is kind of fulfilled
the desires of my heart
00:39:22.66\00:39:25.89
to be in this
role where I'm at now,
00:39:25.93\00:39:27.83
and I know that I'm exactly
where God wants me to be.
00:39:27.86\00:39:30.50
Amen.
00:39:30.53\00:39:31.87
God put that in your
heart, I mean, that's incredible
00:39:31.90\00:39:34.30
and then God fulfilled
the desire of your heart.
00:39:34.34\00:39:36.20
Yeah. And that's beautiful.
00:39:36.24\00:39:37.57
Yeah, He's awesome, isn't He?
00:39:37.61\00:39:38.94
You were gonna say
something, Jovannah.
00:39:38.97\00:39:40.31
Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:39:40.34\00:39:41.68
The family is so huge,
00:39:41.71\00:39:43.48
it's such a huge part
of Native American culture
00:39:43.51\00:39:46.55
and a lot of cultures,
00:39:46.58\00:39:49.48
so tight and so much love like,
00:39:49.52\00:39:54.22
and
responsibility to each other.
00:39:54.26\00:39:57.99
And so when the trust is broken
00:39:58.03\00:40:01.53
and when the hurt and
the pain comes from family,
00:40:01.56\00:40:06.57
it's so severely internalized
00:40:06.60\00:40:09.67
and like what you're
talking about a break of trust,
00:40:09.70\00:40:13.07
it's like a break of
human, like, of self.
00:40:13.11\00:40:17.08
And so one of the ways
and one of the biggest ways
00:40:17.11\00:40:20.38
that our students are
able to learn to trust us
00:40:20.42\00:40:23.95
is we try to
become family to them.
00:40:23.99\00:40:26.12
Oh, that's great.
00:40:26.15\00:40:27.59
And it's a small
community, I mean,
00:40:27.62\00:40:31.73
our student body
is about 70 students
00:40:31.76\00:40:34.60
on our campus and
then may be 15 to 20
00:40:34.63\00:40:36.80
in our Chinle School
00:40:36.83\00:40:38.73
that's actually
on the reservation,
00:40:38.77\00:40:41.40
but we have faculty families.
00:40:41.44\00:40:43.84
So in my family I
have about five students
00:40:43.87\00:40:47.88
that come into my home
and we spend time with them.
00:40:47.91\00:40:50.71
And we pray
together and we eat together
00:40:50.75\00:40:54.25
and we spend the
Sabbath together.
00:40:54.28\00:40:57.35
So each staff is
assigned as you could say
00:40:57.39\00:40:59.52
certain students
to become a family.
00:40:59.55\00:41:01.26
Yeah. I love that.
00:41:01.29\00:41:02.62
And that's a part of
what builds trust in them.
00:41:02.66\00:41:06.23
As we become closer to them
00:41:06.26\00:41:08.10
and we allow them
to become closer to us.
00:41:08.13\00:41:11.90
Our ministry means more.
00:41:11.93\00:41:13.84
We show them the kind of
love and the kind of connections
00:41:13.87\00:41:18.04
that you can have with God.
00:41:18.07\00:41:19.51
Yes.
00:41:19.54\00:41:20.88
So, Adrienna, you came
from a different background
00:41:20.91\00:41:25.91
than Jovannah, is that correct?
00:41:25.95\00:41:27.58
You came from, you had
food when you're growing up
00:41:27.62\00:41:30.35
and you came from a stable home
00:41:30.39\00:41:31.75
or what was your
home life growing up?
00:41:31.79\00:41:35.16
My home was kind of
like comfortable a lot,
00:41:35.19\00:41:40.30
and I will come
home after school
00:41:40.33\00:41:42.26
like wanting to be home
00:41:42.30\00:41:43.63
but wanting to play
outside with my friends.
00:41:43.67\00:41:46.00
And so my mom,
00:41:46.03\00:41:48.04
my parents were really nice too,
00:41:48.07\00:41:50.74
they will provide me the things
00:41:50.77\00:41:52.97
that I need and
all that, and so, yeah.
00:41:53.01\00:41:57.11
So Holbrook is a
boarding school, correct?
00:41:57.15\00:41:59.68
But you also have day students
00:41:59.71\00:42:01.05
that come or it's only boarding?
00:42:01.08\00:42:02.82
It's actually only
boarding. Only boarding.
00:42:02.85\00:42:04.52
So yeah, you're
boarding there then,
00:42:04.55\00:42:05.89
you're staying there?
00:42:05.92\00:42:07.26
How long have you
been at the school?
00:42:07.29\00:42:09.22
I've been there for
like about three years,
00:42:09.26\00:42:11.06
this is my fourth year, so.
00:42:11.09\00:42:12.49
Okay.
00:42:12.53\00:42:13.86
So you came in elementary school
00:42:13.90\00:42:15.23
then if you're...
00:42:15.26\00:42:16.67
No, I came as a
seventh grader in junior high.
00:42:16.70\00:42:20.04
Junior high, okay, perfect.
00:42:20.07\00:42:21.60
So what would a day in
the life of a student be like?
00:42:21.64\00:42:24.44
If you were to walk us through
what a normal day looks like,
00:42:24.47\00:42:28.14
what would that be like?
00:42:28.18\00:42:29.51
Like what time do you get
up and get ready for school?
00:42:29.54\00:42:32.51
You know, it would kind like be,
00:42:32.55\00:42:33.88
like be pretty normal
again at the same time
00:42:33.92\00:42:36.58
as I do that every time a lot
00:42:36.62\00:42:39.59
and I think like there's really
nothing different about it
00:42:39.62\00:42:43.16
'cause that's
what I've been doing
00:42:43.19\00:42:45.26
like most of my whole life.
00:42:45.29\00:42:47.53
So really then you
probably have there's a...
00:42:47.56\00:42:49.43
do you have a chapel time
or devotional time as a group
00:42:49.46\00:42:51.43
as a whole student...?
00:42:51.47\00:42:52.80
Or do you meet with
your individual families
00:42:52.83\00:42:54.47
for year for
that or how is that?
00:42:54.50\00:42:56.27
No, what we do is
like we have worship
00:42:56.30\00:42:59.34
in the chapel in our own dorms,
00:42:59.37\00:43:00.71
so all the girls in the dorm
00:43:00.74\00:43:02.71
would all go to
the chapel together
00:43:02.74\00:43:04.58
and all the boys
in the boys' chapel
00:43:04.61\00:43:06.65
all together.
00:43:06.68\00:43:08.02
That's great.
00:43:08.05\00:43:09.38
And then do you do, is
it a work study program,
00:43:09.42\00:43:11.49
Loren, or is it just...
00:43:11.52\00:43:12.99
Because you're talking
about like the garden and...
00:43:13.02\00:43:14.72
Do you do some of that?
00:43:14.76\00:43:16.09
The garden is
and the horsemanship
00:43:16.12\00:43:17.46
are classes that
the students take,
00:43:17.49\00:43:19.39
so it's more considered classes.
00:43:19.43\00:43:21.26
We do have some students
working in the cafeteria
00:43:21.30\00:43:24.17
and in this ration building
and stuff like that but...
00:43:24.20\00:43:27.60
Is that you? I
said, if you like that.
00:43:27.64\00:43:31.14
Adrienna says, "That's me."
00:43:31.17\00:43:32.51
Well, just, you know,
when I was going to school
00:43:32.54\00:43:34.24
I worked in the
cafeteria too so...
00:43:34.28\00:43:36.85
I enjoyed that. It was fun.
00:43:36.88\00:43:39.71
I'm sorry, go ahead, you're...
00:43:39.75\00:43:41.42
Describing the work study in...
00:43:41.45\00:43:43.65
Yeah. It's more
classes. More classes.
00:43:43.69\00:43:46.09
We also have wielding
which is very important...
00:43:46.12\00:43:51.69
It's a good trade,
isn't it? Class, yeah, yeah.
00:43:51.73\00:43:54.36
Some of the students
go on to trade school
00:43:54.40\00:43:57.93
and get their wielding degrees.
00:43:57.97\00:43:59.87
Oh, that's great. Yes.
00:43:59.90\00:44:01.77
So how is Holbrook
then supported then
00:44:01.80\00:44:03.87
is it supported by donations
strictly or the tuition...
00:44:03.91\00:44:09.04
How do you guys fund or funded?
00:44:09.08\00:44:11.41
About 20 percent of our budget
00:44:11.45\00:44:13.85
comes from the
Pacific Union Conference
00:44:13.88\00:44:15.85
as we're under
the Pacific Union.
00:44:15.88\00:44:19.42
But 80 percent of
it comes from donations
00:44:19.45\00:44:22.22
and from support to the school.
00:44:22.26\00:44:24.73
We have a tuition of $87
for each of our students...
00:44:24.76\00:44:30.20
Per...
00:44:30.23\00:44:31.57
Per month? Per month.
00:44:31.60\00:44:32.93
87 dollars for a
month. Which is extremely low.
00:44:32.97\00:44:34.30
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:34.34\00:44:35.67
It's...
00:44:35.70\00:44:37.04
Does it include the board?
00:44:37.07\00:44:38.41
I'm just... It
includes everything.
00:44:38.44\00:44:39.77
Everything.
00:44:39.81\00:44:41.14
All your academics...
00:44:41.18\00:44:42.51
Wow, it's wonderful.
Yeah, it includes everything.
00:44:42.54\00:44:43.88
And in all actuality
00:44:43.91\00:44:45.25
there are a lots of our students
00:44:45.28\00:44:46.61
and probably most of
them do not pay that.
00:44:46.65\00:44:49.25
Okay.
00:44:49.28\00:44:50.62
Because if you imagine a
home without running water,
00:44:50.65\00:44:55.36
without electricity
00:44:55.39\00:44:57.69
and sometimes
even like a dirt floor,
00:44:57.73\00:45:01.06
$87 a month is huge.
00:45:01.10\00:45:04.97
And so many of our
students don't pay that
00:45:05.00\00:45:07.94
because they can't
00:45:07.97\00:45:09.30
because that is food
money or this is the gas money
00:45:09.34\00:45:12.51
we used to get them to school.
00:45:12.54\00:45:15.84
And so it's more a matter
00:45:15.88\00:45:18.35
of if you can
invest in your school,
00:45:18.38\00:45:21.88
be a part of this.
00:45:21.92\00:45:23.92
The kids that apply
for scholarships and stuff,
00:45:23.95\00:45:26.59
so it's an
introduction to continuing
00:45:26.62\00:45:29.39
and valuing your education.
00:45:29.42\00:45:31.33
It's good. Yeah.
00:45:31.36\00:45:32.69
So then I know that we're
going to the address break soon,
00:45:32.73\00:45:35.16
but I'm wondering
then as far as sponsors
00:45:35.20\00:45:37.40
or the people who
sponsor then students.
00:45:37.43\00:45:39.43
Do you do that or more
it's just like worthy student
00:45:39.47\00:45:41.47
where people
can actually donate.
00:45:41.50\00:45:42.84
We're gonna be
talking about that here surely
00:45:42.87\00:45:44.77
where you can if you
feel a burden that well,
00:45:44.81\00:45:47.14
you can may be
part of the ministry
00:45:47.18\00:45:49.84
even in your
local area, but you say,
00:45:49.88\00:45:51.21
"Man, I just feel impressed
00:45:51.25\00:45:52.58
the Holy Spirit
to support this."
00:45:52.61\00:45:53.95
You accept donations from
those that are viewing on 3ABN,
00:45:53.98\00:45:57.02
correct, to support the students
00:45:57.05\00:45:58.75
to continue to
support this wonderful school.
00:45:58.79\00:46:01.06
Yes, of course.
00:46:01.09\00:46:02.42
There's a wide variety,
if you go to our website
00:46:02.46\00:46:05.26
you can actually
donate right on the website
00:46:05.29\00:46:07.60
and go on there...
00:46:07.63\00:46:08.96
Oh, that's easy.
00:46:09.00\00:46:10.33
Yeah, really easy
and that's new too,
00:46:10.37\00:46:11.70
that's again something
00:46:11.73\00:46:13.07
that Terry
Benedict has helped us
00:46:13.10\00:46:14.44
to start with our school
00:46:14.47\00:46:16.00
and a part of his
ministry for our school.
00:46:16.04\00:46:19.74
But there's, we do
have sponsoring kids
00:46:19.77\00:46:22.91
where you can decide we
have a worthy student fund
00:46:22.94\00:46:24.91
where you can put
towards it for students
00:46:24.95\00:46:27.52
that can't pay the $87.
00:46:27.55\00:46:29.55
And that's where a
lot of the tuition comes
00:46:29.58\00:46:31.55
or goes to the kids for that.
00:46:31.59\00:46:34.69
But then there is
sponsoring students
00:46:34.72\00:46:36.32
through our
development director,
00:46:36.36\00:46:38.23
she has students that
she knows are very high need.
00:46:38.26\00:46:43.33
This year we had a five year old
00:46:43.37\00:46:44.80
coming to our dorm.
00:46:44.83\00:46:46.17
Oh, wow.
00:46:46.20\00:46:47.54
As in the first
grade and five year olds
00:46:47.57\00:46:49.17
are typically in
the kindergarten...
00:46:49.20\00:46:51.54
Kindergarten, oh, yes.
00:46:51.57\00:46:52.91
But she, her family,
she's with her grandparents
00:46:52.94\00:46:56.91
and she needed help, her
brother was at the school
00:46:56.95\00:47:00.02
and I interviewed with her
00:47:00.05\00:47:01.38
before we accepted
her into the first grade
00:47:01.42\00:47:04.49
and I had her
sing the ABCs with me
00:47:04.52\00:47:07.92
and see how
high she could count.
00:47:07.96\00:47:10.89
And then I asked
her where she sleeps
00:47:10.93\00:47:13.09
and that was intentional
00:47:13.13\00:47:14.60
because of the dorm
especially when little kids,
00:47:14.63\00:47:17.20
it's very hard for
them to be in the dorm.
00:47:17.23\00:47:19.03
Of course.
00:47:19.07\00:47:20.40
And she had said,
00:47:20.44\00:47:21.94
"Well, I sleep on the
floor with my grandma."
00:47:21.97\00:47:25.51
And...
00:47:25.54\00:47:26.88
On the floor.
00:47:26.91\00:47:28.24
Yeah, on the
floor with her grandma
00:47:28.28\00:47:29.61
and so we knew
during the interview
00:47:29.64\00:47:32.95
that we had to take her
not that she need to come,
00:47:32.98\00:47:36.95
she sees her
grandma all the time.
00:47:36.99\00:47:39.09
So and, but
that she needed help.
00:47:39.12\00:47:43.63
And the environment
00:47:43.66\00:47:44.99
that she would be in
would be much better.
00:47:45.03\00:47:46.36
Yes. And so she has a sponsor.
00:47:46.39\00:47:49.36
Oh, wow.
00:47:49.40\00:47:50.73
And so there is someone
who sends her some clothes
00:47:50.77\00:47:53.70
every now and then
and some letters...
00:47:53.74\00:47:56.50
That's precious.
00:47:56.54\00:47:57.87
You know, just that
almost like taking her
00:47:57.91\00:48:00.54
as a part of themselves
00:48:00.58\00:48:02.21
and so through our
development director
00:48:02.24\00:48:03.95
she helps sponsor kids as well.
00:48:03.98\00:48:06.72
But overall the overwhelming
need is to support the programs
00:48:06.75\00:48:11.05
that these kids are part of
00:48:11.09\00:48:12.49
to send money for the counseling
00:48:12.52\00:48:14.46
or for the horsemanship program
or for the general fund period.
00:48:14.49\00:48:19.29
Yeah, operational. Yes.
00:48:19.33\00:48:20.83
Yeah. Loren?
00:48:20.86\00:48:22.50
Please don't be discouraged
00:48:22.53\00:48:23.87
if you can't
financially support the school
00:48:23.90\00:48:26.77
because we need
prayer warriors too
00:48:26.80\00:48:28.60
and I know that 3ABN has
some awesome prayer warriors...
00:48:28.64\00:48:30.71
That's right.
00:48:30.74\00:48:32.07
We literally can see
the great controversy
00:48:32.11\00:48:33.64
play out there
almost every day at school.
00:48:33.68\00:48:36.14
So we really
need to be backed up
00:48:36.18\00:48:38.81
with some prayer warriors,
00:48:38.85\00:48:40.18
yeah. Amen.
00:48:40.22\00:48:41.55
Do you have
prayer warriors there
00:48:41.58\00:48:42.92
who are part of
the staff, who, I mean,
00:48:42.95\00:48:44.29
do you guys
gather and do that or...?
00:48:44.32\00:48:46.09
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:46.12\00:48:47.46
But we would like
to do it more regular
00:48:47.49\00:48:48.82
but we have, we
meet every day as a staff
00:48:48.86\00:48:52.29
and we have specific prayers
and then we have some people
00:48:52.33\00:48:55.26
that are really good
at it that we could say,
00:48:55.30\00:48:56.70
"Hey, could you pray
especially for this."
00:48:56.73\00:48:58.80
Now I like what you said earlier
00:48:58.83\00:49:00.17
and I know we're
just running out of time,
00:49:00.20\00:49:01.54
it's amazing how
fast this hour has gone
00:49:01.57\00:49:02.90
but you mentioned something
about a program called a New...
00:49:02.94\00:49:05.37
New You.
00:49:05.41\00:49:06.74
New You and I know you
touched on just briefly,
00:49:06.78\00:49:08.44
but again
describe that real quick
00:49:08.48\00:49:09.81
what that is 'cause
I like that, you know,
00:49:09.84\00:49:11.18
we're used to is it Newstart,
00:49:11.21\00:49:13.08
you go through
nutrition and all that
00:49:13.11\00:49:14.45
but I like the New You.
00:49:14.48\00:49:15.82
New You.
00:49:15.85\00:49:17.19
Yeah, it's something
that we use as a wrap around
00:49:17.22\00:49:18.99
for all of the extracurricular
holistic approach
00:49:19.02\00:49:22.86
to helping the students
00:49:22.89\00:49:25.03
become more
well-rounded, you know,
00:49:25.06\00:49:29.16
a lot of times you know,
00:49:29.20\00:49:32.10
people think that the
first effort should be
00:49:32.13\00:49:33.87
what we need to make
Christians out of them first.
00:49:33.90\00:49:36.54
I say the first
effort should be to help them
00:49:36.57\00:49:39.44
restore their minds to health.
00:49:39.47\00:49:42.98
And so that would be
with exercise and nutrition
00:49:43.01\00:49:46.31
that would be getting outside
00:49:46.35\00:49:47.68
working in the
garden, exercise...
00:49:47.72\00:49:49.05
In the fresh air. Yeah.
00:49:49.08\00:49:50.52
Running is a big part
of the Navajo tradition
00:49:50.55\00:49:52.82
and so we like to
allow the students
00:49:52.85\00:49:55.52
to do a lot of
running for PE program.
00:49:55.56\00:49:58.33
And then you have
the counseling program,
00:49:58.36\00:50:01.20
you have Jovannah
working with the deans
00:50:01.23\00:50:04.80
to incorporate some life
skills into the dorm program
00:50:04.83\00:50:08.90
and so it's a
really a team approach.
00:50:08.94\00:50:11.61
And my wife
likes to tell the staff
00:50:11.64\00:50:14.54
as the development director,
00:50:14.58\00:50:15.91
she says, "Everyone here
is a development director."
00:50:15.94\00:50:18.68
And so as a counselor
I like to tell the staff
00:50:18.71\00:50:22.18
you all are counselors,
00:50:22.22\00:50:23.55
we all need to be
working on this together,
00:50:23.59\00:50:25.65
it's a team effort.
00:50:25.69\00:50:27.02
Amen. Amen. That's wonderful.
00:50:27.06\00:50:28.39
Well, we're gonna
go to your contact
00:50:28.42\00:50:29.76
in just a moment
00:50:29.79\00:50:31.13
but Jovannah we did
not even finish your story
00:50:31.16\00:50:32.53
so you left Holbrook, you went,
00:50:32.56\00:50:35.03
after you graduated you
went to Union College...
00:50:35.06\00:50:37.73
Yes.
00:50:37.77\00:50:39.10
And you got your degree in...
00:50:39.13\00:50:40.47
English education.
00:50:40.50\00:50:41.84
I'm a certified English teacher.
00:50:41.87\00:50:43.47
And you met your
husband there at Union?
00:50:43.51\00:50:45.24
Yes, I did.
00:50:45.27\00:50:46.88
I love theater
00:50:46.91\00:50:48.68
and so I was a part of
Union College's dram...
00:50:48.71\00:50:52.08
Sorry I love drama.
00:50:52.11\00:50:54.12
I was a part of
the drama department
00:50:54.15\00:50:56.35
and my husband built sets.
00:50:56.38\00:50:57.75
Oh, yeah?
00:50:57.79\00:50:59.12
And so we met on the
set of Union College.
00:50:59.15\00:51:02.46
And now you have a
precious little girl.
00:51:02.49\00:51:04.46
I have three precious...
00:51:04.49\00:51:05.93
Oh, really, I didn't know that.
00:51:05.96\00:51:07.56
I just met the one, so...
00:51:07.60\00:51:09.00
I'm starting my own tribes.
00:51:09.03\00:51:11.90
I've got two boys and
one girl and my son is seven
00:51:11.93\00:51:16.07
and he actually
goes to our school,
00:51:16.10\00:51:17.44
he is in the second grade.
00:51:17.47\00:51:19.24
Well, it's just been
an incredible journey
00:51:19.27\00:51:21.88
hearing each one
of your testimonies
00:51:21.91\00:51:23.85
and hearing about
what God is doing in
00:51:23.88\00:51:26.28
and through the ministry
of Holbrook Indian School.
00:51:26.31\00:51:29.05
So we want to encourage you,
may be you know a young person
00:51:29.08\00:51:31.65
who would be
interested in attending,
00:51:31.69\00:51:33.46
may be you wanna sponsor
and help out financially,
00:51:33.49\00:51:36.56
here's how you can get in touch
with Holbrook Indian School.
00:51:36.59\00:51:40.06
If you would like to learn more
about Holbrook Indian School,
00:51:45.40\00:51:48.27
you can do so by
writing to PO Box 910,
00:51:48.30\00:51:52.31
Holbrook, Arizona 86025.
00:51:52.34\00:51:55.24
That's PO Box 910,
Holbrook, Arizona 86025.
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You can call them at
928-524-6845 Ext. 109.
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That's 928-524-6845 Ext. 109.
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You can also find them online
at HolbrookIndianSchool.org.
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That's HolbrookIndianSchool.org.
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