I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn
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and we will once again
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welcome you to
3ABN Today program.
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We're so glad
that you're joining us
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and we have an incredible story,
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it's a story that is...
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When I first heard it,
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it was rather
shocking to me actually
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and there's
bitterness, but it's bittersweet
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because we've got some people,
some good Christian people
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who are doing
something about it.
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Before I introduce our guests,
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let me read to you Hebrews 6:10.
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And actually our guest
today chose this scripture
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and this is Paul writing,
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we assume it's Paul writing
to the Hebrews and he says,
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"God is not unjust
to forget your work
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and your labor of love,
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which you have
shown toward His name
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in that you have
ministered to the saints
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and you do minister."
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We're going to meet
our special guests now
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who are ministering
to the saints in Rwanda.
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Let me introduce
to you Hans and Mindy,
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and let me make sure I'm
saying this right Thygeson.
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That's correct.
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What is that origin Thygeson?
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It's a Danish.
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Danish. Okay.
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Well, we are so glad
to have you here today
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and, Hans, you are the
founder of Impact Hope?
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That is correct, Shelley.
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And your wife is
co-founder? Yeah.
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Well, we're so
glad that you're here.
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Then we have,
we've gone from Danes,
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we're going to go
to someone from Africa,
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who is now living
in the States as well.
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Lucie, let me go ahead
and introduce you first
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but, Lucie, and your last
name is pronounced Trepanier.
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Yes.
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You all are giving me
a little challenge today.
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So you were born in
Africa, when did you come here?
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I came here in
1963 at the end...
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Okay.
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To try and start college.
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Okay.
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Ended up going to
high school again,
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my last year.
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All right.
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So I won't guess,
fascinating accent,
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I love your accent. Thank you.
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We're just very glad all three
of you are joining us today
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and we're going to be talking
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about these
three wonderful people
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who, just ordinary
people like you and me,
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they were all ordinary people,
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it's just that God's using
them in an extraordinary way.
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And isn't it
amazing when we say to Him,
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here am I send me,
how He does send me.
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But before we get into this,
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I'm gonna give these
people a little reprieve,
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give them a moment to
get used to the cameras
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and we're going to have
Jaime Jorge play for us.
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He is one of my favorite people
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and he's such a
talented young man.
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He's going to play for us,
"His Eye is on the Sparrow".
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Jaime Jorge I'd tell you,
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God gave him a
talent that can...
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When Jaime is
playing the violin,
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I can absolutely, he
can bring me to tears,
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I put it that way,
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he can transport you
before the throne of grace.
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Well, if you're joining
us just a little late today,
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we are interviewing
the folk from Impact Hope
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and it's an
amazing story behind this,
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and let me once again introduce
a husband and wife team,
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we have Hans and Mindy...
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I always...
Thygeson. That's correct.
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With full freedom
I'm gonna say that.
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And then we also
have Lucie Trepanier.
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Either way is fine. All right.
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We'll do the anglicize way.
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Let's get a little back story
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because you have
an amazing ministry
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but I'd like to hear a
little about your lives,
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you grew up both of you,
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and we're gonna be speaking
with husband and wife first
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and we'll get to
Lucie in a moment.
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But you grew up in
Adventist Christian homes,
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in fact, Mindy you are a
PK, a preacher's kid, right?
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That's right.
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Yes, and how did
the two of you meet?
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We met through the church
up at youth campaign, Oregon,
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and we're both,
you know, Adventists
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and we especially felt
the call to try to do ministry
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and so that's kind of...
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So you met, you married,
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you have three
beautiful children
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all under the age of seven?
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Yeah. Have mercy.
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And that's a handful.
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You were a nurse,
an OR nurse. Yeah.
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And what is your business, Hans?
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So we've build a business
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where we build and
develop commercial real estate
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specifically
apartments and senior housing.
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Okay.
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So here you've got this
wonderful life going on,
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but you both felt
the call to ministry
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before you married and
once as you're married,
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you're really feeling this call,
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which I would say that anybody
who is the mother of children
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especially three that
are under the age of seven,
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that's a full time ministry.
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Being a mama is a
full-time ministry
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and it's a blessing.
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But you are
seriously praying about,
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"Lord, what would
you have us to do?"
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Right? Correct. Correct.
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And exploring
mission opportunities.
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Okay.
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So you've been on
a few mission trips,
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taking your
children on mission trips.
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But something happened
and tell us what happened?
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We had an Easter celebration
with some church members,
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and at their house we
were having Easter service,
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and there's a gentleman
that told us about impact
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about these refugees in Rwanda.
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And he said that
all these refugees
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are predominantly
Seventh-day Adventists
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and they are some
of the smartest kids
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in all of Africa
that they're working with
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and we've never
heard of that before.
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All right, so he tells
you, now was he an Adventist?
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No, he wasn't, he wasn't,
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but he was at the
Easter celebration.
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So you meet this man
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who is telling you
about 80,000 people there
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and the smart kids.
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Interesting story
you've not heard of,
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but what cemented
the deal for you, Mindy?
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Well, it was actually
Hans decided to go to Rwanda.
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Did the gentleman...
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How did you get
that your interest
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for PK as you speak.
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When he said because I
really felt he was speaking
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through the Holy Spirit,
he said these are your people.
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What are you as a
church doing for these refugees
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who've been living
in Rwandan refugee camps
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for over 20 years?
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What are you doing as a
church for these people?
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And so we met
with him several times
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to try to verify the story
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because we never heard about
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all these
Seventh-day Adventist refugees.
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We met with him several times
and had him over to our house
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and we heard this
amazing story of these people
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that had been living for many
years in these refugee camps
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and they were, you
know, the man told us
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they were devout Adventists
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and we talked to
people around the church
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they hadn't heard the story.
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So in the spring of 2015
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I went with this
organization to Rwanda
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to visit these camps and
actually see if it was true
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because I really questioned
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if there was a true
story that they were telling.
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And when you got there,
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you found that these poor people
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had been in these camps
many of them for 20 years.
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Tell us about the Rwandan camps?
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And then we'll get to...
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Tell us about the camp condition
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that we're finding our
brothers and sisters in Rwanda,
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and then we'd like to
hear why they're there.
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So going with this group,
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we went to this one
specific camp, Gihembe,
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which is been around since '97.
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And basically
these people are living
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on the top of a mountain.
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There's over 13,000
people in a very tight camp
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and living in mud huts
that are 12 feet by 15 feet
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in a remote location,
harsh living conditions,
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basically you could say
like the surface of the moon
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or you know a gravel field.
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And so there are
very tough conditions
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and these people
are basically there
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because the
safety of their life.
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All right, so how did...
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They're refugees from where?
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They're refugees from the Congo.
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So what happened was in 1994
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after the genocide that happened
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against the Tutsis in Rwanda.
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The perpetrators
who had committed
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the atrocities against humanity,
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they started to fear for
their own lives and safety
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because they had
done terrible things,
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and so they began to flee Rwanda
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by the hundreds of thousands.
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And they fled into neighboring
countries like Tanzania,
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and Burundi, and Zaire,
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which is now the
Democratic Republic of Congo.
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Okay, and these are
the Hutus right there?
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These are the
Hutu perpetrators, yes.
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So in the Congo they found
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that the tribal
systems are the same,
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there is a Hutus and Tutsis
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and so genocide
began again in the Congo.
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It's unbelievable.
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And so as in the area
that was particularly targeted
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happened to be primarily
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Seventh-day Adventist Christians
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and it was fertile land
and it was price to the Hutus.
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And so the killing began,
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meanwhile the Hutus
are fleeing for their lives
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back into Rwanda.
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The Hutus or the Tutsis?
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The Tutsis. Okay.
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So we've got
this horrible massacre
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that happened in Rwanda,
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and the Hutus were the ones
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who were carrying this
out against the Tutsis.
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Yes. Correct.
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Now the Hutus go into the
Congo find more Tutsis there
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and begin it
again, so now the Tutsis,
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we've got the Hutus
fleeing into the Congo
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because they
think they're gonna be
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prosecuted for war crimes,
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but then they do it
again and now the Tutsis are...
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Am I saying that
right? Yeah, Tutsis. Yeah.
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Tutsis are
fleeing back into Rwanda.
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Did the Rwandan
government welcome them?
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Well, initially they were put up
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in an Adventist
University called Mudende
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but unfortunately held as
refugees at the university...
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Unfortunately one
night Hutu militants
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came across the
border from the Congo
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and massacred around 1,200
Adventists at that university.
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After that event the
Rwandan government said,
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we'll put you in a safe place
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and so they're not
giving them prime real estate,
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they're giving
them the tops of hills,
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places that are not very usable.
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And so that's where
they put the refugees now
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and they set up
several camps initially
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and now there are five
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Congolese
refugee camps in Rwanda
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with nearly 80,000 people,
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most of whom are Seventh-day
Adventist Christians.
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And that's where Lucie is
gonna come in just a moment.
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It's such a fascinating story
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how she connects as a
friend with this group
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because her grandfather...
I'm gonna give away...
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Her grandfather was the one
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who first evangelized
these precious people.
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Now I think we have just
a few pictures of the camp,
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I want to just put
this in your mind right now.
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So let's just show the first
three pictures of the camp.
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This is the
welcoming sign to Gihembe.
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Yeah, this is
Gihembe refugee camp.
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Okay.
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And this was the very first camp
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that was started
from the massacre
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at the Adventist
University in '96.
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All right, and then
they have these children
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if we go to the next
picture here, we've got...
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Life is tough for
these kids, isn't it?
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Yes.
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They are living in...
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I think the next
picture shows us some mud huts,
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they live in these mud huts,
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where do they get
the tarps for their roof?
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The UN issues them
tarps for the roofs
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and so each family is
able to have a mud hut
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that's roughly 12
by 15 feet in size.
00:18:21.80\00:18:26.00
And all water is coming
from one or two water spigots
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for the entire camp.
00:18:30.11\00:18:31.81
And so it's very common to see
00:18:31.84\00:18:33.98
children of young
ages hauling water uphill
00:18:34.01\00:18:36.81
typically to their homes.
00:18:36.85\00:18:38.95
There's no
electricity in the camps
00:18:38.98\00:18:41.55
and they're
living on 24 cents a day
00:18:41.58\00:18:44.09
which is provided
by the United Nations,
00:18:44.12\00:18:46.22
which is essentially
enough for one meal a day.
00:18:46.25\00:18:49.46
Oh, that's amazing.
00:18:49.49\00:18:51.29
So what is the
country of Rwanda,
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is it fairly developed compared
to many African countries?
00:18:55.53\00:18:59.43
Fairly. Yeah.
00:18:59.47\00:19:00.80
Yeah, it's, you know,
00:19:00.84\00:19:02.17
it's still
relatively third world
00:19:02.20\00:19:03.54
but it's advanced as
far as an African country.
00:19:03.57\00:19:08.48
All right, so they have a
fairly good education system.
00:19:08.51\00:19:11.41
How do out of these 80,000
00:19:11.45\00:19:15.18
mostly Seventh-day
Adventist Christians,
00:19:15.22\00:19:18.29
your brothers and
sisters, in these camps
00:19:18.32\00:19:21.76
how many of these are
children would you say?
00:19:21.79\00:19:26.03
There's a huge
number of children
00:19:26.06\00:19:28.36
because most of these people
00:19:28.40\00:19:30.40
have these kids have
been born into the camps
00:19:30.43\00:19:34.50
and we figure there's roughly
10,000 high school aged kids
00:19:34.54\00:19:39.04
that are not able
to obtain education
00:19:39.07\00:19:41.91
because of the
remoteness of the camps
00:19:41.94\00:19:44.45
and just the lack
of opportunity to them.
00:19:44.48\00:19:47.32
All right, they do
have some education there
00:19:47.35\00:19:50.09
for the younger
ones, is that correct?
00:19:50.12\00:19:52.39
Yeah, primary school.
00:19:52.42\00:19:53.96
They're being provided a basic
education in primary school
00:19:53.99\00:19:58.83
but it's just not enough
to really give them a leg up
00:19:58.86\00:20:01.96
or give them an
opportunity to succeed
00:20:02.00\00:20:04.97
once they are an adult.
00:20:05.00\00:20:07.54
All right.
00:20:07.57\00:20:08.90
So they're educating them
00:20:08.94\00:20:10.27
they at the camps
through what grade?
00:20:10.31\00:20:14.28
Through the ninth
grade. To the ninth grade.
00:20:14.31\00:20:16.58
But they wouldn't have
much success in getting a job
00:20:16.61\00:20:19.65
or doing anything.
00:20:19.68\00:20:21.02
Rwanda has a very
difficult job market,
00:20:21.05\00:20:23.22
it's very hard to get a job
with a ninth grade education,
00:20:23.25\00:20:26.55
almost impossible.
00:20:26.59\00:20:28.22
And so really the children
in the camps are helpless,
00:20:28.26\00:20:33.40
and they will say,
"We were helpless."
00:20:33.43\00:20:36.16
And they really mean
it, there's nothing to do.
00:20:36.20\00:20:39.13
And so unfortunately
this leads to early family,
00:20:39.17\00:20:44.31
they have families at young ages
00:20:44.34\00:20:46.41
because there's
really nothing to do.
00:20:46.44\00:20:49.14
So unfortunately
00:20:49.18\00:20:50.51
and this is where we decided
to try and make a difference.
00:20:50.55\00:20:54.55
All right, So these
poor precious people,
00:20:54.58\00:20:57.35
they fled there
00:20:57.39\00:20:58.72
because they
didn't want to fight,
00:20:58.75\00:21:03.53
partly was to preserve life
00:21:03.56\00:21:05.29
but they didn't want
to engage in warfare.
00:21:05.33\00:21:07.53
Yeah. And so they're there.
00:21:07.56\00:21:09.16
And now the camps have
been there for 20 years,
00:21:09.20\00:21:12.57
you said most of the kids there
have grown up in the camps,
00:21:12.60\00:21:15.24
but there's been some recent
genocide again, hasn't there?
00:21:15.27\00:21:20.88
Yeah, and there is
some of these camps
00:21:20.91\00:21:22.41
that's formed as
recently as 2012.
00:21:22.44\00:21:25.11
So we have students
that are in our program
00:21:25.15\00:21:28.45
that have experienced
genocide in the Congo
00:21:28.48\00:21:32.75
and have had to flee,
00:21:32.79\00:21:35.26
a lot of them have lost
family members, parents,
00:21:35.29\00:21:37.73
so we have a
high number of orphans
00:21:37.76\00:21:40.36
and just kids
that have experienced
00:21:40.40\00:21:42.90
just unimaginable situations,
00:21:42.93\00:21:45.60
and when you hear their stories
it's just, it's very grippy.
00:21:45.63\00:21:49.34
Okay, so, Hans,
you go over, you visit,
00:21:49.37\00:21:51.27
you see these
deplorable conditions,
00:21:51.31\00:21:53.71
you see what's going
on, what happened then?
00:21:53.74\00:21:56.08
So, Shelley,
what was so inspiring
00:21:56.11\00:21:57.61
I go there, I see, and I'm...
00:21:57.65\00:22:02.38
I've experienced
some rugged conditions
00:22:02.42\00:22:04.65
and stuff like that,
00:22:04.69\00:22:06.02
but it was something
that I had never seen before,
00:22:06.05\00:22:08.29
these people
living basically in dirt,
00:22:08.32\00:22:11.83
and they were clean and happy
and that was so inspiring to me
00:22:11.86\00:22:16.06
was that just
the overall morale,
00:22:16.10\00:22:20.30
these people's faith was in
God and their heavenly home.
00:22:20.34\00:22:24.51
And I was so
moved visiting with them
00:22:24.54\00:22:27.51
because I was with
this secular group touring
00:22:27.54\00:22:30.65
and when I would say that
I'm a Seventh-day Adventist,
00:22:30.68\00:22:33.58
their whole focus
would change as a group
00:22:33.62\00:22:36.48
and they would just,
00:22:36.52\00:22:37.85
all they wanted to do is
talk to me about my faith
00:22:37.89\00:22:40.66
and about my
Seventh-day Adventist heritage
00:22:40.69\00:22:43.16
when the host that
had brought me there
00:22:43.19\00:22:45.96
had spent a huge amount of money
00:22:45.99\00:22:48.00
taking their kids to university.
00:22:48.03\00:22:51.10
And so I just really realized
that the most important thing
00:22:51.13\00:22:55.10
to these people was their faith,
00:22:55.14\00:22:57.97
and their spiritual
life, and their hope in heaven.
00:22:58.01\00:23:01.64
And so we instantly bonded
00:23:01.68\00:23:04.61
and these people, I
spent a couple of weeks with
00:23:04.65\00:23:10.45
and I was very moved
and I said, "You know what,
00:23:10.49\00:23:12.85
we've got to do
something for these people."
00:23:12.89\00:23:15.09
All right, so you've
been praying earnestly
00:23:15.12\00:23:16.86
that, you know, when you ask God
00:23:16.89\00:23:18.26
to give you a ministry He will.
00:23:18.29\00:23:20.53
And He just actually
pop this one into your lap,
00:23:20.56\00:23:23.50
did He not?
00:23:23.53\00:23:24.87
It was not exactly
what we expected as ministry
00:23:24.90\00:23:27.90
but we've been so
touched by these people.
00:23:27.94\00:23:32.47
So you go back,
you form a 501c3,
00:23:32.51\00:23:35.78
a nonprofit
organization called Impact Hope.
00:23:35.81\00:23:38.68
What is the mission?
00:23:38.71\00:23:40.25
I mean, you can't
meet all of their needs.
00:23:40.28\00:23:41.82
What is your specific
mission for Impact Hope?
00:23:41.85\00:23:45.45
We believe that all children
00:23:45.49\00:23:47.82
should have the equal
opportunity to education.
00:23:47.86\00:23:50.83
And so because of
Impact Hope and funding,
00:23:50.86\00:23:54.50
we are able to send 234 children
00:23:54.53\00:23:57.93
from the refugee camps
00:23:57.97\00:23:59.57
to Adventist
boarding academies in Rwanda
00:23:59.60\00:24:02.50
in the very first year.
00:24:02.54\00:24:04.97
This year we have
362 young children,
00:24:05.01\00:24:10.95
high school-aged
children from the camps
00:24:10.98\00:24:13.08
and boarding
Adventist boarding academies.
00:24:13.11\00:24:15.38
It's wonderful.
00:24:15.42\00:24:16.75
But did these children not...
00:24:16.79\00:24:18.25
Does the Rwandan
government not say come,
00:24:18.29\00:24:22.19
go to our public schools?
00:24:22.22\00:24:23.93
Tell us about that?
Well, in fact, they do.
00:24:23.96\00:24:26.13
The kids in the
camps came together
00:24:26.16\00:24:28.50
and they formed a hope school.
00:24:28.53\00:24:30.73
They said that we're
not gonna get an education,
00:24:30.77\00:24:33.54
so we have to
provide it for ourselves.
00:24:33.57\00:24:35.77
So after the ninth grade
00:24:35.80\00:24:37.14
they've started
this school called,
00:24:37.17\00:24:39.87
they call it the Hope School
00:24:39.91\00:24:41.24
because they finally
had hope in something.
00:24:41.28\00:24:43.68
And they called
anyone in the camps
00:24:43.71\00:24:46.05
who had a education
before they became refugees
00:24:46.08\00:24:48.85
and they begged and they say,
00:24:48.88\00:24:50.22
please, you teach us
math, teach us science.
00:24:50.25\00:24:52.95
And the students did very well
00:24:52.99\00:24:54.49
and they studied, and
they were very diligent.
00:24:54.52\00:24:57.66
While in 2015 the
Rwandan government
00:24:57.69\00:25:01.13
closed the Hope School down
saying it wasn't accredited.
00:25:01.16\00:25:04.63
And so after that happened,
00:25:04.67\00:25:07.97
the students were now hopeless
but the government said,
00:25:08.00\00:25:10.94
"Well, you can attend
local Rwandan high schools."
00:25:10.97\00:25:14.21
Unfortunately because of
where the camps are situated,
00:25:14.24\00:25:17.45
it is very hard to get to
local Rwandan high schools.
00:25:17.48\00:25:21.75
And some camps
that are close enough
00:25:21.78\00:25:24.75
are still a 16
kilometer walk round trip,
00:25:24.79\00:25:28.06
which is about 10
miles round trip each day.
00:25:28.09\00:25:31.79
From the top of a mountain,
00:25:31.83\00:25:33.43
this is not just a
walk down a city street.
00:25:33.46\00:25:37.03
It's top of the
mountain down into town
00:25:37.07\00:25:40.97
in remote areas.
00:25:41.00\00:25:42.34
And unfortunately
there's victimization
00:25:42.37\00:25:45.67
that is happening
along the roadways.
00:25:45.71\00:25:47.38
I mean, we're talking rape
00:25:47.41\00:25:48.74
and abuse to specially the girls
00:25:48.78\00:25:50.65
who are going risking
their lives to become educated.
00:25:50.68\00:25:54.48
It's amazing that they
have such a strong desire
00:25:54.52\00:25:57.29
and commitment to
get their education.
00:25:57.32\00:25:59.72
Yes.
00:25:59.75\00:26:01.09
you know, it's very strong
00:26:01.12\00:26:03.02
and so because of
their desire to be educated
00:26:03.06\00:26:06.56
and our desire to help
our fellow Adventist people
00:26:06.59\00:26:11.13
is the reason that
we started Impact Hope
00:26:11.17\00:26:13.80
and make a difference.
00:26:13.84\00:26:15.24
So just a little story, Shelley,
00:26:15.27\00:26:17.44
about these kids
walking to school.
00:26:17.47\00:26:19.71
In September we took
Walla Walla University students
00:26:19.74\00:26:23.81
who have adopted this program.
00:26:23.85\00:26:25.91
This was September of 2016 or...
00:26:25.95\00:26:28.48
Yeah, of 2016.
00:26:28.52\00:26:30.12
Yeah, so this
last September in 2016,
00:26:30.15\00:26:33.25
I was fortunate
enough to take a group
00:26:33.29\00:26:35.32
from Walla Walla University
00:26:35.36\00:26:37.09
because they had
adopted this refugee program
00:26:37.13\00:26:40.43
as their specific mission
fundraiser for the year there.
00:26:40.46\00:26:44.93
And so I was visiting the camp
00:26:44.97\00:26:47.64
and meeting with the UN,
00:26:47.67\00:26:52.37
meeting with the
education directors
00:26:52.41\00:26:54.31
and they're in the camp
00:26:54.34\00:26:55.68
that ADRA
director her name is Betty
00:26:55.71\00:26:58.28
and she specifically asked me
00:26:58.31\00:27:00.52
and she said, "Mr.
Hans, we have 98 girls
00:27:00.55\00:27:04.65
that are walking
this 16 kilometers,
00:27:04.69\00:27:07.46
which is roughly 10
miles everyday into town
00:27:07.49\00:27:11.13
and these terrible
things are happening to them.
00:27:11.16\00:27:13.70
What can you do
for these girls?"
00:27:13.73\00:27:16.46
And so she asked me twice,
00:27:16.50\00:27:18.97
then she is there
in front of the UN
00:27:19.00\00:27:21.47
and she is asking me,
00:27:21.50\00:27:23.77
these girls, we
really need to do something
00:27:23.81\00:27:25.91
because of the terrible things
that are happening to them.
00:27:25.94\00:27:28.68
So that day it was
a hot miserable day,
00:27:28.71\00:27:32.91
I'm a person that,
00:27:32.95\00:27:35.28
you know, I think I can
handle a lot but it was,
00:27:35.32\00:27:38.79
you know, 90 plus degrees,
00:27:38.82\00:27:40.76
the sun and the
dust was blowing,
00:27:40.79\00:27:42.82
I was having a hard
time breathing in the camp
00:27:42.86\00:27:46.36
and I'm seeing all these kids
00:27:46.39\00:27:48.56
that, you know, are
living in difficult conditions
00:27:48.60\00:27:52.03
and I'm leaving,
00:27:52.07\00:27:55.10
riding out in air
condition vehicle.
00:27:55.14\00:27:59.77
And I see all
these girls walking back
00:27:59.81\00:28:02.38
and the feeling
that went over me
00:28:02.41\00:28:05.01
is a feeling that I haven't
experienced much in my life
00:28:05.05\00:28:07.72
and it was a feeling of
fear and I basically got a chill
00:28:07.75\00:28:11.55
and I thought,
Shelley, of the story
00:28:11.59\00:28:15.02
that we all know so
well of the good Samaritan.
00:28:15.06\00:28:17.66
Yes.
00:28:17.69\00:28:19.03
And thought came to me
as am I gonna be a priest,
00:28:19.06\00:28:23.16
or a Levite and just drive by,
00:28:23.20\00:28:25.63
or am I gonna be a Samaritan?
00:28:25.67\00:28:27.44
And am I gonna help these kids?
00:28:27.47\00:28:29.60
So I merely got back to my hotel
00:28:29.64\00:28:34.58
and I contacted Mindy
00:28:34.61\00:28:36.44
and I told her
about these 98 girls.
00:28:36.48\00:28:38.58
And I said, you know,
00:28:38.61\00:28:40.35
now we have
another group of kids
00:28:40.38\00:28:43.28
that we have to help
00:28:43.32\00:28:44.65
and so we immediately
said, we're gonna do something.
00:28:44.69\00:28:47.32
And fortunately we were
able to reach out to sponsors,
00:28:47.36\00:28:52.76
fellow believers,
00:28:52.79\00:28:54.46
and tell them about
these devout Adventist kids.
00:28:54.50\00:28:59.23
And they've rallied around
00:28:59.27\00:29:02.44
and we were able to
help those 98 girls.
00:29:02.47\00:29:03.87
Praise God.
00:29:03.91\00:29:05.24
So you've got all
98 in schools now.
00:29:05.27\00:29:07.08
I think we have
some pictures of the kids
00:29:07.11\00:29:09.84
and we'd like to see those now.
00:29:09.88\00:29:12.35
Walk us through these, Mindy?
00:29:12.38\00:29:14.42
Well, this is at
each refugee camp
00:29:14.45\00:29:16.48
where we have students
00:29:16.52\00:29:18.69
coming from the
camps is a plaque
00:29:18.72\00:29:21.09
there you see that shows
00:29:21.12\00:29:22.46
that we're
reputable organization
00:29:22.49\00:29:24.29
that's working in
partnership with ADRA Rwanda.
00:29:24.33\00:29:27.93
And they're actually
implementing our program
00:29:27.96\00:29:31.10
in Rwanda
00:29:31.13\00:29:32.47
by guaranteeing that
the students are in school
00:29:32.50\00:29:36.40
that they have what they need.
00:29:36.44\00:29:38.94
This is a student
who's coming to school
00:29:38.97\00:29:41.51
the first time in her life.
00:29:41.54\00:29:42.94
She is gonna have a
new mattress to sleep on,
00:29:42.98\00:29:46.41
the first time in her life
00:29:46.45\00:29:47.78
that she will
have three meals a day,
00:29:47.82\00:29:50.49
and the first time
00:29:50.52\00:29:51.85
that they will have
a roof over their head
00:29:51.89\00:29:53.52
instead of a tarp.
00:29:53.56\00:29:56.89
So this is at the school dorm?
00:29:56.93\00:29:58.53
This is in one of
the school dormitories
00:29:58.56\00:30:00.60
and they are very
happy to be in this place.
00:30:00.63\00:30:05.33
They say, they've come to Europe
00:30:05.37\00:30:07.44
because the contrast between
00:30:07.47\00:30:09.17
the refugee
camps and the schools
00:30:09.20\00:30:11.21
are so extreme that to them
00:30:11.24\00:30:14.14
even though it's a
very humble academy,
00:30:14.18\00:30:16.31
even by our
standards in America,
00:30:16.34\00:30:18.88
this is like Europe.
00:30:18.91\00:30:20.25
Oh, I bet.
00:30:20.28\00:30:22.28
And these are
precious faces here now.
00:30:22.32\00:30:25.49
And we'll just
keep going through these
00:30:25.52\00:30:26.89
because we've got some
more questions but there is...
00:30:26.92\00:30:29.09
So these kids and you'll see
how their bright shining faces.
00:30:29.12\00:30:34.20
We're so proud to have
these kids in these programs
00:30:34.23\00:30:37.73
because they are the
top kids in the school,
00:30:37.77\00:30:40.97
they are the heads
boys and the head girls
00:30:41.00\00:30:45.07
and as a whole
our refugee students
00:30:45.11\00:30:48.84
are
academically the top students
00:30:48.88\00:30:51.31
and there are
the spiritual leaders
00:30:51.35\00:30:53.15
in the school, in fact...
00:30:53.18\00:30:54.52
Praise God.
00:30:54.55\00:30:55.88
We got a call from ADRA
00:30:55.92\00:30:58.22
who we have an employee
running our program with
00:30:58.25\00:31:02.16
and said, the president
of the Central African Union
00:31:02.19\00:31:05.79
wants to take
and put your refugees
00:31:05.83\00:31:08.33
in another boarding school
00:31:08.36\00:31:09.90
because of how these refugee
students have set the tone
00:31:09.93\00:31:14.10
and the spiritual
life at these schools.
00:31:14.14\00:31:17.17
And so, I actually
00:31:17.21\00:31:18.91
this September in
2016 when I was over there,
00:31:18.94\00:31:21.91
I got to meet
four different times
00:31:21.94\00:31:23.85
with the union
president and he said
00:31:23.88\00:31:27.52
because of our
program in these schools
00:31:27.55\00:31:29.35
we were able to keep one
00:31:29.38\00:31:30.75
Adventist boarding
school in operation,
00:31:30.79\00:31:33.42
and we were able to help
build a multipurpose building
00:31:33.46\00:31:38.29
at another school.
00:31:38.33\00:31:39.66
So we feel like these
dollars are not just helping
00:31:39.69\00:31:43.13
these devout Adventist kids,
00:31:43.16\00:31:45.00
but they're also helping
00:31:45.03\00:31:46.37
the Adventist education
program in Central Africa.
00:31:46.40\00:31:49.70
Amen.
00:31:49.74\00:31:51.07
You know, when
we first met, Mindy,
00:31:51.11\00:31:52.54
you told me that God
was really stretching you
00:31:52.57\00:31:55.18
and getting her
outside of her comfort zone
00:31:55.21\00:31:57.31
because neither one of
you enjoyed public speaking
00:31:57.35\00:32:01.55
and that now God is
putting you in churches
00:32:01.58\00:32:05.05
to talk about this
and to raise these funds.
00:32:05.09\00:32:07.72
And basically what you are doing
00:32:07.76\00:32:09.66
is kind of a formula
that's familiar to many
00:32:09.69\00:32:12.73
is that you're raising
sponsorship for these children
00:32:12.76\00:32:16.56
so that they can go on to school
00:32:16.60\00:32:19.13
and it's really very reasonable.
00:32:19.17\00:32:21.87
Explain to us how $50 a
month or $600 dollars a year,
00:32:21.90\00:32:26.88
how can you get
into a boarding school
00:32:26.91\00:32:30.05
with your, for tuition
00:32:30.08\00:32:31.91
and your room and
board and everything
00:32:31.95\00:32:35.08
for $600 a year?
00:32:35.12\00:32:36.45
You know, and that's
where we were inspired
00:32:36.48\00:32:38.59
to really feel like God worked
00:32:38.62\00:32:40.59
and by putting all the
pieces of the puzzle together.
00:32:40.62\00:32:45.89
All the dollars that we
raised 100% of it goes to Africa
00:32:45.93\00:32:50.17
and all our time is donated.
00:32:50.20\00:32:52.73
And we were able to
get the buying power
00:32:52.77\00:32:54.80
and the expertise of ADRA.
00:32:54.84\00:32:57.51
We have an employee
that runs this program
00:32:57.54\00:33:00.54
and works through
ADRA and then we went
00:33:00.58\00:33:03.78
to the
Adventist church in Rwanda
00:33:03.81\00:33:06.31
and we said what are we
doing for these refugees?
00:33:06.35\00:33:09.35
How come nobody is
there helping them?
00:33:09.38\00:33:12.12
And they said, "Mr. Hans,
00:33:12.15\00:33:14.32
if you guys put
together a program,
00:33:14.36\00:33:17.16
we will see that
these people got helped."
00:33:17.19\00:33:20.56
So less than a year later
00:33:20.60\00:33:23.00
we came back to
almost some dollars
00:33:23.03\00:33:24.80
and they have given us tuition
00:33:24.83\00:33:26.84
at 40% to 60% of the actual rate
00:33:26.87\00:33:30.57
for these boarding schools.
00:33:30.61\00:33:32.17
And then ADRA was able to put
00:33:32.21\00:33:34.48
and with their
significant buying power
00:33:34.51\00:33:36.85
has able to really
stretch our dollars,
00:33:36.88\00:33:38.55
so for $600
00:33:38.58\00:33:39.98
which is significantly less
than boarding school tuition,
00:33:40.02\00:33:43.79
we're able to get
their clothes, their food,
00:33:43.82\00:33:47.46
their actually
medical insurance,
00:33:47.49\00:33:49.86
transportation...
00:33:49.89\00:33:51.23
Spoon and forks,
Bibles, the mattress and sheets,
00:33:51.26\00:33:54.73
two sets of
uniforms and tuition.
00:33:54.76\00:33:59.00
And they get three meals a day.
And they get three meals a day.
00:33:59.03\00:34:02.30
Now tell us a little,
we have a picture of a sign
00:34:02.34\00:34:05.11
it's the Gitwe.
00:34:05.14\00:34:07.41
Am I saying that right? Yes.
00:34:07.44\00:34:08.81
Gitwe College. College.
00:34:08.84\00:34:12.08
I think it's
French. College Adventiste.
00:34:12.11\00:34:15.15
This is actually a high
school, it's one of the schools
00:34:15.18\00:34:18.12
where we have about
70 students this year.
00:34:18.15\00:34:22.89
Are we going to
talk about Lucie?
00:34:25.89\00:34:28.03
Well, that's where
we're leading into.
00:34:28.06\00:34:29.93
You are at a camp meeting
00:34:29.96\00:34:32.27
and you're presenting your story
00:34:32.30\00:34:34.30
and you bring up the
Gitwe and what happens?
00:34:34.34\00:34:39.47
We're working with
four Adventist colleges
00:34:39.51\00:34:42.24
or boarding academies
and Gitwe and Ron Carrey
00:34:42.28\00:34:46.11
are some very predominant
old Adventist names in Africa.
00:34:46.15\00:34:51.25
And so we're presenting
00:34:51.29\00:34:53.25
and, Mindy, you can
kind of tell about that.
00:34:53.29\00:34:56.26
We were presenting at
the Oregon camp meeting,
00:34:56.29\00:34:58.19
and right after we had
finished we went to our booth
00:34:58.23\00:35:01.90
and not long
after Lucie and her mom
00:35:01.93\00:35:06.47
being pushed in a wheelchair
came as quickly as they could
00:35:06.50\00:35:08.90
and they said, "Do you know
00:35:08.94\00:35:10.41
why all those refugees
are Seventh-day Adventists?
00:35:10.44\00:35:14.14
My grandfather
was one of the first
00:35:14.18\00:35:16.11
Adventist missionaries
in Rwanda and the Congo
00:35:16.14\00:35:19.51
back in the early 1900s."
00:35:19.55\00:35:21.75
Okay, Lucie, so
this is grandpa, huh?
00:35:21.78\00:35:24.55
This is grandpa
Delhove. His name is David E.
00:35:24.59\00:35:30.29
Delhove from Belgium
00:35:30.33\00:35:33.29
and accepted the
message very young,
00:35:33.33\00:35:38.77
dedicated his life
to mission service.
00:35:38.80\00:35:41.74
During World War I, he was in...
00:35:41.77\00:35:48.48
At early he was in the
Tanzania area serving the Lord
00:35:48.51\00:35:55.35
and then World War I came around
00:35:55.38\00:35:57.45
so he couldn't
go back to Belgium.
00:35:57.49\00:35:59.25
So he was one
of the allied spies
00:35:59.29\00:36:03.76
so to speak during the war
00:36:03.79\00:36:05.13
and he was going back
and forth, back and forth
00:36:05.16\00:36:08.06
in Rwanda, and Burundi,
and also part of the Congo.
00:36:08.10\00:36:12.77
And he said, "Oh,
man, this is a great place
00:36:12.80\00:36:16.00
to establish some mission
00:36:16.04\00:36:17.37
because the
place was populated."
00:36:17.41\00:36:19.51
So when the war ended,
he went back to Belgium
00:36:19.54\00:36:22.58
and told his wife...
00:36:22.61\00:36:24.85
They had two children
then, "We're going to Africa."
00:36:24.88\00:36:29.28
And they
approached the German mission,
00:36:29.32\00:36:30.92
they said, "Yes, let's go.
00:36:30.95\00:36:32.29
We'll send you."
00:36:32.32\00:36:33.66
So they ended up
there, no roads anywhere
00:36:33.69\00:36:36.49
but they finally
made it into Rwanda.
00:36:36.52\00:36:40.56
And he was given
three Protestant missions
00:36:40.60\00:36:43.90
that originally were German.
00:36:43.93\00:36:45.73
And my mother was born
at one of those in 1919.
00:36:45.77\00:36:50.47
And so that
started the work there,
00:36:50.51\00:36:57.05
they were
working with the people
00:36:57.08\00:36:58.78
that had already been
Christians and they...
00:36:58.81\00:37:01.65
He hadn't worked
with them long enough
00:37:01.68\00:37:04.05
so that they
would become Adventists
00:37:04.09\00:37:06.39
before the Belgian
government came and said,
00:37:06.42\00:37:09.06
"You can't have
these missions anymore,
00:37:09.09\00:37:10.79
there's a Belgian
Protestant Society
00:37:10.83\00:37:12.83
that's gonna come take them,
00:37:12.86\00:37:14.20
so you need to go
find your own mission."
00:37:14.23\00:37:16.46
And so he prayed
and he started walking,
00:37:16.50\00:37:20.84
walking, walking and he
finally came to this place,
00:37:20.87\00:37:24.51
this hill everybody
called it Gitwe Hill.
00:37:24.54\00:37:28.34
And there were no
trees, there were no villages,
00:37:28.38\00:37:32.85
there was
nothing living up there.
00:37:32.88\00:37:34.92
And he found out the story
00:37:34.95\00:37:37.02
that there was a king of Rwanda,
00:37:37.05\00:37:41.26
we assume that his name the
one that we're talking about,
00:37:41.29\00:37:46.33
his name was Musinga.
00:37:46.36\00:37:49.36
He had come from a
campaign, a war campaign
00:37:49.40\00:37:52.10
and he was crossing Gitwe Hill
00:37:52.13\00:37:53.77
and it was just
pouring down rain,
00:37:53.80\00:37:55.80
he got so mad when he
ended up crossing the hill,
00:37:55.84\00:37:59.07
he turned around and he
cursed it with his gods,
00:37:59.11\00:38:01.74
he says, "No one's
ever gonna live there."
00:38:01.78\00:38:03.85
And there's a big curse
00:38:03.88\00:38:06.58
and so that's
why nobody was there.
00:38:06.61\00:38:08.55
And so grandpa said,
"I'm gonna pray about this."
00:38:08.58\00:38:13.02
And he was
impressed this is the place.
00:38:13.05\00:38:16.19
So he went, climbed the hill
and he put up his tent there,
00:38:16.22\00:38:20.10
and eventually he built a house
00:38:20.13\00:38:25.17
and that's where my mother
remembers her first years.
00:38:25.20\00:38:28.90
And then he built a big church.
00:38:28.94\00:38:30.47
And then he
built this huge church
00:38:30.51\00:38:33.68
called Gitwe Church.
00:38:33.71\00:38:35.54
And that was built in between
1922 and 1923 and he really...
00:38:35.58\00:38:41.05
This is on a hill
where there were no villages,
00:38:41.08\00:38:43.35
he just had incredible faith.
00:38:43.39\00:38:45.85
Yeah.
00:38:45.89\00:38:47.22
And the first Adventists
00:38:47.26\00:38:50.96
were baptized in 1921
00:38:50.99\00:38:54.13
and that was the beginning.
00:38:54.16\00:38:56.03
That is such an amazing story.
00:38:56.06\00:38:57.40
Now your family, your father
00:38:57.43\00:39:00.20
actually kind of took up
00:39:00.24\00:39:03.20
the work after your grandfather.
00:39:03.24\00:39:05.14
The Congo Union
approached my dad
00:39:05.17\00:39:07.01
because dad and mom were
married at Kirundu mission
00:39:07.04\00:39:12.71
in the Ituri Forest
00:39:12.75\00:39:15.15
while grandpa and
grandma was serving there.
00:39:15.18\00:39:18.29
And grandpa married
them and they went to Gitwe
00:39:18.32\00:39:22.76
that grandpa had
started to begin with.
00:39:22.79\00:39:24.53
Okay.
00:39:24.56\00:39:25.89
And things happened,
kids were born etcetera,
00:39:25.93\00:39:30.10
and they were moved
from one station to another.
00:39:30.13\00:39:32.43
And that's us
there at Kirundu mission.
00:39:32.47\00:39:35.37
No, excuse me
00:39:35.40\00:39:36.74
that was Tsonga
Hospital where I was born
00:39:36.77\00:39:38.64
and my brother was born
there in south part of Congo.
00:39:38.67\00:39:42.48
And so as time went by,
00:39:42.51\00:39:48.12
grandpa got retired.
00:39:48.15\00:39:50.42
And then the Congo
Union came to him and said,
00:39:50.45\00:39:52.75
"Would you take over
00:39:52.79\00:39:54.12
the pioneering of
Adventist missions."
00:39:54.16\00:39:56.83
So one of the missions he
pioneered was Nebasa mission
00:39:56.86\00:40:03.13
in the northern
most part of the Congo.
00:40:03.16\00:40:06.80
And in 1950 that was in 1948...
00:40:06.84\00:40:13.64
Yeah, 1948 and then in 1950
00:40:13.68\00:40:16.51
the first Adventists were...
00:40:16.54\00:40:21.02
That's them right
there were baptized.
00:40:21.05\00:40:24.52
And not too long after
that because of these folks,
00:40:24.55\00:40:28.99
there was this thatched
00:40:29.02\00:40:34.23
first church there
and there's the group.
00:40:34.26\00:40:37.70
Oh, praise the Lord.
00:40:37.73\00:40:39.07
And dad and mom
served there for 35 years.
00:40:39.10\00:40:42.64
Well, then...
00:40:42.67\00:40:44.01
Then you ended up
getting involved in Rwanda?
00:40:44.04\00:40:47.18
Then one day I
was watching the news
00:40:47.21\00:40:51.18
and I saw terrible
pictures in '94 of the genocide
00:40:51.21\00:40:56.85
and I'm like, "Oh, my
goodness these are my people."
00:40:56.89\00:40:59.32
Yeah.
00:40:59.35\00:41:00.69
I'm sorry, these are my
people and I got to do something
00:41:00.72\00:41:06.29
so I went to the
bedroom and knelt and I said,
00:41:06.33\00:41:09.70
"God, do something with me."
00:41:09.73\00:41:12.27
And He allowed me to raise money
00:41:12.30\00:41:15.50
and I was able to
go with this group
00:41:15.54\00:41:19.14
that they have a major
00:41:19.17\00:41:24.48
international medical teams.
00:41:24.51\00:41:27.98
And I went with them,
00:41:28.02\00:41:29.65
they're not
Adventists but I went with them,
00:41:29.68\00:41:31.32
I was the only
Adventist in there.
00:41:31.35\00:41:33.29
And we went and
served for three months
00:41:33.32\00:41:35.66
in the refugee camps.
00:41:35.69\00:41:38.36
So then when I heard them
00:41:38.39\00:41:42.53
at the camp meeting last year,
00:41:42.56\00:41:45.83
I thought, "Oh my, you know,
00:41:45.87\00:41:48.00
this is gonna make
a full circle for me."
00:41:48.04\00:41:50.41
So I went to talk to
them and introduced mom
00:41:50.44\00:41:54.71
who's going on 98 now
and she lives with me but...
00:41:54.74\00:42:01.58
And it was wonderful
to see that these folks
00:42:01.62\00:42:06.62
were doing something
wonderful for the refugees
00:42:06.65\00:42:09.02
that we had worked
within, you know, years before.
00:42:09.06\00:42:13.36
And it just kind of making
a full circle and I just...
00:42:13.40\00:42:19.10
I wanted to be
involved so here I am.
00:42:19.13\00:42:21.20
And, Lucie, you know,
just praise God to for you
00:42:21.24\00:42:24.91
to be able to see that
the work that your grandfather
00:42:24.94\00:42:28.18
or the work that
Lord accomplished
00:42:28.21\00:42:30.18
through your
grandfather and your father
00:42:30.21\00:42:32.25
had such a lasting deep
impact on these precious people
00:42:32.28\00:42:36.85
because you have said,
Hans, that they were just...
00:42:36.89\00:42:40.56
As you said their faith
00:42:40.59\00:42:42.49
is more important
to them than anything.
00:42:42.52\00:42:45.19
And that's just so amazing.
00:42:45.23\00:42:46.96
So when you, how
often do you go over?
00:42:47.00\00:42:53.40
Well, we go, Mindy,
between Mindy and myself
00:42:53.44\00:42:57.31
we're going about
four to five times a year.
00:42:57.34\00:42:59.47
All right.
00:42:59.51\00:43:00.84
And you get to see the
kids at the school and...
00:43:00.88\00:43:02.74
Yeah.
00:43:02.78\00:43:04.88
We make sure and
follow up and, you know,
00:43:04.91\00:43:08.35
just kind of
assessing the program,
00:43:08.38\00:43:10.59
spending time with the
kids, trying to mentor them
00:43:10.62\00:43:14.16
and just run the program.
00:43:14.19\00:43:17.23
Mindy basically runs
program full time from our house
00:43:17.26\00:43:21.46
and we're, you
know, very passionate,
00:43:21.50\00:43:24.97
God's blessed us by being able
00:43:25.00\00:43:27.37
to be involved in this and just,
00:43:27.40\00:43:30.37
it's been a transforming
experience for a family.
00:43:30.41\00:43:33.31
Every time I think
about my lack of desire
00:43:33.34\00:43:37.71
for public speaking,
00:43:37.75\00:43:39.08
I think about the kids
because they have Christianity
00:43:39.11\00:43:42.88
that we just
don't see every day.
00:43:42.92\00:43:44.89
And they're carrying
their Bibles everywhere they go
00:43:44.92\00:43:47.39
because it's the most
important thing to them
00:43:47.42\00:43:49.66
and they're
just incredible kids.
00:43:49.69\00:43:51.83
And they kind of
get under your skin
00:43:51.86\00:43:53.76
and you just, you
know, you want to stay
00:43:53.80\00:43:55.83
and so worst part is leaving.
00:43:55.86\00:43:57.50
Oh, I'm sure. Excuse me.
00:43:57.53\00:44:00.04
And that's one thing that
when you have been in Africa
00:44:00.07\00:44:04.64
especially involved
in something like this,
00:44:04.67\00:44:07.88
it grabs your heart so strongly
that you don't want to leave
00:44:07.91\00:44:13.05
and you want to go
back, you know, so...
00:44:13.08\00:44:16.89
I'll just praise the God.
00:44:16.92\00:44:18.32
Praise God to thank that,
you know, He stirred your heart
00:44:18.35\00:44:23.46
and that He brought the
young man into your life
00:44:23.49\00:44:25.93
to introduce this to you.
00:44:25.96\00:44:28.26
And I don't know about you
00:44:28.30\00:44:29.66
but God is
stirring my heart as well.
00:44:29.70\00:44:31.43
If you would like to perhaps
00:44:31.47\00:44:34.40
sponsor a child for $50 a month,
00:44:34.44\00:44:37.44
they can go to the
Adventist boarding schools,
00:44:37.47\00:44:40.14
they can be educated,
00:44:40.18\00:44:41.61
and they're just
trying to give them hope
00:44:41.64\00:44:44.15
that this cycle of living,
00:44:44.18\00:44:47.18
you know, for
generation after generation
00:44:47.22\00:44:49.88
in a refugee camp
00:44:49.92\00:44:51.42
that this cycle can be broken
and that there can be more.
00:44:51.45\00:44:54.82
And because they are
such strong Christians,
00:44:54.86\00:44:58.69
you know, that they
will continue to evangelize
00:44:58.73\00:45:00.96
as they go
forward in their lives.
00:45:01.00\00:45:02.86
But if you'd like to get
in touch with Hans and Mindy
00:45:02.90\00:45:06.90
to maybe come
speak at your church
00:45:06.94\00:45:09.47
or just to make a
charitable donation
00:45:09.50\00:45:13.11
to their nonprofit organization,
00:45:13.14\00:45:15.31
here's how you can
get in touch with them
00:45:15.34\00:45:18.25
Impact Hope was formed
00:45:18.28\00:45:19.65
to enable
sponsorship for students
00:45:19.68\00:45:21.28
so they can
attend boarding school.
00:45:21.32\00:45:23.02
There they can
enjoy quality education,
00:45:23.05\00:45:25.22
better living conditions,
00:45:25.25\00:45:26.59
and an opportunity
to learn more about God.
00:45:26.62\00:45:28.99
If you'd like to know
more about this ministry,
00:45:29.02\00:45:30.96
you can write to Impact Hope,
2500 Willamette Falls Drive,
00:45:30.99\00:45:35.60
Suite 207, West
Linn, Oregon 97068.
00:45:35.63\00:45:39.93
That's Impact Hope,
2500 Willamette Falls Drive,
00:45:39.97\00:45:44.41
Suite 207, West
Linn, Oregon 97068.
00:45:44.44\00:45:48.98
You can call (503) 673-3905.
00:45:49.01\00:45:52.75
That's (503) 673-3905
00:45:52.78\00:45:56.08
or visit them
online at Impact-Hope.org.
00:45:56.12\00:45:59.85
That's Impact-Hope.org.
00:45:59.89\00:46:03.32
Well, I'm sure
that the Holy Spirit
00:46:03.36\00:46:05.73
is moving upon
many people's hearts
00:46:05.76\00:46:07.46
and Hans and Mindy
would love to hear from you.
00:46:07.50\00:46:09.90
Now, I've just learned
that we have a video roll
00:46:09.93\00:46:13.03
and we would like to show.
00:46:13.07\00:46:14.40
Can you set that up,
00:46:14.44\00:46:15.77
one of you to tell us
what this roll is about?
00:46:15.80\00:46:17.74
Well, my daughter
narrated the video,
00:46:17.77\00:46:20.44
so the cute little voice
you hear is my seven-year old.
00:46:20.48\00:46:24.11
And it just shows our program
00:46:24.15\00:46:26.08
and show some
pictures of our kids
00:46:26.11\00:46:29.02
and the camps where
they're coming from.
00:46:29.05\00:46:30.89
Okay, then we'll roll that now.
00:46:30.92\00:46:33.66
My name is Lea
00:46:36.96\00:46:38.29
and my parents
go to Africa a lot.
00:46:38.33\00:46:43.47
There is a big city
in Rwanda called Kigali.
00:46:43.50\00:46:47.04
But not far from the big city
00:46:50.24\00:46:52.17
something called a refugee camp.
00:46:52.21\00:46:56.34
My parents told me
that there was a war
00:46:56.38\00:46:59.31
that made
people have to run away
00:46:59.35\00:47:02.72
from their own homes
and live in another country.
00:47:02.75\00:47:07.26
People who had
to leave their homes
00:47:07.29\00:47:12.43
have been living in
Rwanda refugee camps
00:47:12.46\00:47:15.83
for over 20 years.
00:47:15.86\00:47:19.53
They have to hike to get water
00:47:19.57\00:47:24.27
and there are no
lights and no showers.
00:47:24.31\00:47:28.54
They even have only enough money
00:47:28.58\00:47:31.68
for one meal a day.
00:47:31.71\00:47:33.45
They can only go to school
until ninth grade in the camps.
00:47:38.82\00:47:42.72
When my mom and dad
heard about these people,
00:47:46.19\00:47:50.40
they were sad
because most of the people
00:47:50.43\00:47:53.57
are Seventh-day
Adventists like us.
00:47:53.60\00:47:56.74
Let me ask if
any of the students
00:47:56.77\00:47:58.67
are Seventh-day Adventists?
00:47:58.71\00:48:00.98
Yeah. Can you do it?
00:48:01.01\00:48:02.34
Can I ask? Yeah
00:48:02.38\00:48:03.71
Can you raise you hand? Almost.
00:48:07.05\00:48:09.38
Almost all of
them. Almost all of them.
00:48:09.42\00:48:12.29
I am a Seventh-day Adventist
00:48:12.32\00:48:15.12
and almost the population
of Gihembe refugees' camp
00:48:15.16\00:48:20.03
are Adventists also.
00:48:20.06\00:48:22.80
There are many, many
students who need the help
00:48:22.83\00:48:25.93
so we can tell you
00:48:25.97\00:48:30.77
that our students
need to really the help
00:48:30.81\00:48:35.34
to attend the university
00:48:35.38\00:48:36.71
because they do
not have that chance.
00:48:36.75\00:48:38.81
Thank you so much.
00:48:38.85\00:48:40.45
My mom and dad started
something called Impact Hope.
00:48:40.48\00:48:44.92
They're trying to
raise money to send kids
00:48:44.95\00:48:47.26
to go to school and
college, so they can get jobs
00:48:47.29\00:48:51.33
so they can take
care of their families.
00:48:51.36\00:48:55.16
Because of your support
00:48:55.20\00:48:56.87
Impact Hope was
able to add more students
00:48:56.90\00:49:01.10
for the 2017 school year.
00:49:01.14\00:49:04.57
Now we have 350 refugee students
00:49:04.61\00:49:11.11
attending safe
Adventist boarding schools.
00:49:11.15\00:49:16.99
As far as
refugees are concerned,
00:49:17.02\00:49:19.92
we were all hopeless
00:49:19.95\00:49:22.42
but you have come to support us.
00:49:22.46\00:49:25.79
With this, we
would like to show you
00:49:25.83\00:49:28.53
that we are going to
work hard and succeed,
00:49:28.56\00:49:32.40
not only in school,
but even in everyday life.
00:49:32.43\00:49:38.21
Hoping that you
are going to be the one
00:49:38.24\00:49:42.04
who will help us in
order to fulfill our dreams.
00:49:42.08\00:49:47.35
There are lots more kids
who want to go to school,
00:49:47.38\00:49:51.55
will you help us?
00:49:51.59\00:49:53.12
Well, once again this
is moving story to think
00:50:05.73\00:50:08.20
that there are
so many Christians
00:50:08.24\00:50:11.11
and Seventh-day
Adventist Christians
00:50:11.14\00:50:12.87
who are living in these
camps who've been there,
00:50:12.91\00:50:16.68
some of them for over 20 years.
00:50:16.71\00:50:19.18
So approximately 10,000
are high school-aged children
00:50:19.21\00:50:25.59
and do you ever get this...
00:50:25.62\00:50:28.19
I mean, you made to think
00:50:28.22\00:50:29.79
that you've got
360 kids in school,
00:50:29.82\00:50:32.33
it's amazing in a short time,
00:50:32.36\00:50:34.30
but do you ever just feel like
more and more and more, Lord?
00:50:34.33\00:50:38.23
You know what?
00:50:38.27\00:50:39.60
We definitely do and
what has been so inspiring
00:50:39.63\00:50:42.67
is going to these refugee camps
00:50:42.70\00:50:44.67
like last September I
was in a refugee camp in...
00:50:44.71\00:50:50.31
The teachers there in
grade school teacher said,
00:50:50.35\00:50:56.38
"You know, Hans,
your program has inspired
00:50:56.42\00:51:00.26
and made teaching
so much easier for us
00:51:00.29\00:51:03.29
because these kids
finally have hope."
00:51:03.32\00:51:05.76
And out of that camp
00:51:05.79\00:51:07.13
there's 17,000
people living there,
00:51:07.16\00:51:09.46
we were able to only
take 54 kids out of that camp.
00:51:09.50\00:51:14.04
Well, the thing if we
could do it ourselves,
00:51:14.07\00:51:16.67
we would do it but we can't.
00:51:16.71\00:51:19.41
And that's why we're here
00:51:19.44\00:51:21.74
part of the reason
collectively though
00:51:21.78\00:51:24.28
as Seventh-day Adventists
00:51:24.31\00:51:26.21
we can come
together and together we can.
00:51:26.25\00:51:28.92
Ten thousand is nothing for God.
00:51:28.95\00:51:31.72
You're absolutely
right, Mindy. Amen.
00:51:31.75\00:51:34.42
Well, we're going
to take a short break
00:51:34.46\00:51:36.32
and we'll come
back in just a moment
00:51:36.36\00:51:38.36
to have a final word
00:51:38.39\00:51:40.50
with Hans, and Mindy, and Lucie,
00:51:40.53\00:51:42.56
but stay tuned.
00:51:42.60\00:51:43.97