I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people.
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Hello, and welcome to
3ABN Today Special Report.
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My name is CA Murray.
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Allow me to thank you once again
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for your lovely prayers,
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your support of this ministry,
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thank you for partnering with us
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as we seek to lift up the mighty
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and matchless name of Jesus.
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Now when you hear us
put that Special Report tag
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on the end of 3ABN,
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you know that
something a little different
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is going to happen.
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We use the
designation Special Report
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when we're going to do something
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just a little
out of the ordinary,
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may be out of the studio,
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some kind of out of
the box type program,
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perhaps we're gonna
talk about a new project
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or something that
3ABN is working on
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or some current news
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or the intersection of
a religion and society,
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something happening in the world
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that impacts the church.
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So the Special
Report designation
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allows us to do some
different kinds of things
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that we think
are important to you,
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important to the work of 3ABN,
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important to the
life of the church,
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and important to us all
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as we walk this
road that leads to glory.
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And so this Special Report
is a very, very special program
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if you can use that word twice
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because we're gonna
talk with two evangelists.
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Two men who have served the Lord
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many, many years in evangelism.
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One is the immediate
past president of 3ABN,
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that is Pastor Jim Gilley
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and the other is
Pastor Kenneth Cox
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who has spent his life
evangelizing for the Lord.
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Years ago at the Miami Temple
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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I gotten a call from my mom,
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and she was
raving about this pastor
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who would come in to
hold an area wide meeting.
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She didn't know the name.
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She could not remember
exactly where he was from.
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You've got to understand,
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my mother thought he
was from Alabama or Florida
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but my mother is
a Canadian by birth,
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grew up in Canada
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so all accents
sound the same to her.
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She did not know
that Pastor Cox's
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particular accent is
from the Plains State,
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I think it's Oklahoma.
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He spent some time in Chicago
but she thought it was Alabama,
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she thought it was Florida.
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So I forgive her for that,
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but she was so
enthused about this pastor,
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so enthused about
the way he preached,
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and the way he
brought the message,
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and the enthusiasm that
he brought out in the crowds
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that were coming each night
there in Buffalo, New York.
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And at the end, a
number of people were baptized
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and so I did not know
Kenneth Cox personally
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at that time.
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I've since come to
know him and love him.
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He is an
evangelist of great stature.
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Lord's blessed me to hold
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several dozen
evangelistic crusades.
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We're going to hear from two men
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who have preached
crusades in the hundreds.
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Pastor Cox's at
least 200 or more,
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Jim Gilley well over 100.
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These are men who have
done much work in evangelism
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and when they come
together they have much to say.
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Pastor Cox will be
talking about some books
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that he has written
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that you may
want to get a pen out
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and take some note
on or try to get those
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because they
are very, very good,
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and he'll talk about that too.
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Then he will talk
about his work here at 3ABN.
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He's one of the more
seen and heard evangelist
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who appears on our air
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and has for many
years preached on Daniel,
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on Revelation, on
any number of topics.
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He's done just a fabulous job.
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So he and Jim had a
chance to come together
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and speak on the
things of the Lord,
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to reminisce a little
bit to talk about things
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old and new,
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things affecting the church
and Pastor Cox's newest book
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which is called
"In The Master's Step"
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which they will talk about also.
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So you wanna give ear
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because this is a
very, very good presentation.
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Two men, two
evangelists, two dear friends
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who are gonna talk
about the things of the Lord,
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and when the men of God
get together and reminisce,
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it is also blessing for
us to watch and to hear.
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This interview
was taped at the LLBN,
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the Loma Linda Broadcasting
Network Studio sometime ago,
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and it is our
privilege to bring to you now
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Pastor Jim Gilley
interviewing Pastor Kenneth Cox.
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Well, we welcome
you to 3ABN Today
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and I am a guest
host in this capacity,
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Danny Shelton was not
able to be here today.
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This is being actually
taped at Loma Linda, California,
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at Loma Linda Broadcasting,
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and we thank them for
the use of their facilities.
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Danny called to see if
I could fill in for him
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and it's just a
real pleasure to do so
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because we're talking
with Pastor Kenneth Cox
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and, Pastor Cox, it's
great to see you again.
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Thank you, Jim,
it's glad to be here.
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Yeah, you know, on 3ABN
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probably there is
not another speaker
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that has spoken more times
on Three Angels Broadcasting
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than Pastor Kenneth Cox.
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In fact he came
up with a concept
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that in a
different way we continued,
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that was when you were
covering a week on each topic.
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Subject. How that
come about, Kenneth?
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Well, as you know, Jim,
when you're holding meetings
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and you preach one
night on a particular subject,
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you just don't
get it all covered.
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Yeah.
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And I thought,
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really the people
would like to look at it
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in a lot of different ways
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and so we tried to
pick a particular subject
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and take five
sermons to cover that subject
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and hopefully it
will give the people
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a picture of the whole concept.
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Now you would come into 3ABN
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and we have a live
audience every night,
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you were at Wednesday night,
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Thursday night, Friday
night, then Sabbath morning,
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and then Sabbath
afternoon or evening.
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Evening.
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And you would cover
those five subjects.
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Right. How many
of those did you do?
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We did 12. All right.
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That just one year?
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I thought you did a second year.
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Not on that way.
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We did a second
year on Revelation.
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Okay. But not as many.
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I see.
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Yeah. All right.
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But those are still
being shown on 3ABN.
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They were great productions
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and they are so in dept
in the teaching technique,
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I find so many
people that tell me,
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"I've really learned a
lot by watching Kenneth Cox
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covering the
subjects of prophecy.
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Of course that's what we wanted.
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Yes.
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You know, we wanted
them to look at it and see it
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and understand it and
have it become real to them.
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So they said,
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"Yeah, this is
what the Bible teaches."
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Yes, now out of that you
developed a couple of books.
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One was called
Daniel Pure and Simple.
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Yes.
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And that covers the
Book of Daniel, right?
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Yeah, that's a verse by verse
study of the Book of Daniel
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just take you
through the Book of Daniel
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and people, we try to put it,
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it's called
Daniel Pure and Simple.
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Yes.
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And we try to
put it that way, Jim,
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because there's places I go in,
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I pick up a book on
Daniel and it's that thick.
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Yes.
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So people aren't
gonna pour through that.
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So we tried to keep it condensed
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and yet get the meat of it there
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and put it in a simple way
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and that was the purpose
of the series that we did.
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You know, I've
always been amazed
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in your evangelistic meetings
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that you were able
to take a full music,
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announcements,
prayer, and the sermon
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and do it in one
hour or like 58:30
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and I've been amazed
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that you could cover
the material that quickly.
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Well, it takes a lot of
prayer and a lot of repeat
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and study to pull it down
to condense it down to that.
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But then the next book you did
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was the
Revelation Pure and Simple.
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Right. So that covers
the Book of Revelation.
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Yes, and that goes
through the Book of Revelation.
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But not only did we
do the book on Revelation
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but we did a series
for 3ABN on Revelation.
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Right.
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And that has been
shown all over the world.
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Even though you
did them with 3ABN
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and 3ABN has
continued producing,
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these are on many stations
like in the Chicago area,
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secular stations,
and other stations.
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We're on stations all
across the United States.
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All right.
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So the ministry continues
to have a wonderful impact.
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The Lord has blessed it.
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We thank the
Lord for what we see.
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Yeah.
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I happen to be on your board,
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and I thank you
for that privilege,
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been on there for long
time so has Danny Shelton.
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Yes.
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He's been with you for
a long time on the board.
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There are lot of
others that have been there,
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Max Trevino and others,
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and we do
appreciate your ministry,
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and we want you to know that.
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Well, the board's
been a great help.
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They've been marvelous to
work with and very supportive.
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Yes. We're thankful for that.
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You know, I have people ask
me, "So what are you doing now?"
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I say, "Well, one of the things
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I'm doing is serving
on the Kenneth Cox board,
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another thing is, I'm always,
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every year Lord
willing take people to Israel
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in the month of
November usually."
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Right.
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Will you do other chips as well
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but only Israel because
they are biblical trips,
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it's in order that the
people would really understand
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the Bible better, we do that,
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and then I'm
preaching around the country.
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I was in Florida recently,
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another
appointment here in California
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and different places
where people ask maybe come
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and so Camille and I go
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and still preaching the gospel
whenever we get the request.
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That's great. Thanks for it.
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But I don't have an
organization like you do
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which continues to build
and you're adding personnel
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and bringing in
associated evangelists,
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and maybe a different
time have a full announcement
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about who that is
and what he'll be doing,
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but it was exciting
board meeting this week
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to see some of the plans
that you have for the future.
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Well, we are thankful
for what the Lord does
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and we're thankful
for the opportunity
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for the ministry
to continue to grow
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as we have added new stations
here in the United States,
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and it just little by
little keeps expanding, Jim,
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and we get letters every week.
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Lots of them in
which people are stating,
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"Thank you for the meetings,
thank you for the program,
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I've learned so much,
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it's helped me in my
relationship with Christ."
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And it talks about their growth
and their acceptance of Christ,
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baptism, all these
things that are wonderful
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as the Holy
Spirit works with them.
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Sometime back John Carter and I
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were talking about
you and John told me,
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he said, "You know,
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I don't think there's
anyone in our denomination
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who has held more
evangelistic series
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than Kenneth Cox.
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And I think that probably
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that number would
be a right around 200.
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Would you think so?
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I would say
somewhere in that neighborhood,
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I don't know exact count.
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I've never tried to keep a count
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but just looking
over the years and stuff,
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it will number at least 200.
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Yeah.
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I've held little over a 100
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and I am sure
that you've doubled me
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for holding meetings.
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But they have been a
blessing, haven't they?
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If I had to live
my life over, Jim,
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I'd do exactly what I've done.
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Yeah.
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Now, that's a wonderful
thing for a person to realize
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that God called
you, God equipped you,
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and He gave you the opportunity
to present the gospel.
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Amen.
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You know, people who
are called to the ministry,
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it is not a job, it's a calling.
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Yes.
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But it's kind of like, you know,
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I've heard
somebody the other day say,
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"Why don't you guys
retire, some of you?"
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You know, being a
minister of the gospel
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and called to do evangelism
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is very much like being
a Supreme Court justice.
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It's an appointment for life.
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As long as the Lord
gives you the breath,
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you continue to feel the calling
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that one more soul...
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Right.
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One more soul
might be in the kingdom
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as a result of your
presenting the gospel.
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And not only is
it they are calling,
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but I think with the individual
as you know it's a passion.
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Yes. You know,
I've got to do it.
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Yeah.
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It's just a passion
and that's part of it.
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It is. It really is.
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Well, then the
next book that you did
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that I'm well acquainted
with was "The Sanctuary"
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and again you used
the term Pure and Simple.
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Right.
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And you boiled
down the sanctuary
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and made it simple.
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That's not easy to
do for some people.
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No.
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Again, there's marvelous
books on the sanctuary.
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Yeah.
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But you pick them up
and that thick, you know,
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and people won't
wade in through all that,
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and I wanted something
that people could just pick up,
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could read, and say, "Oh,
that's one it's talking about."
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That's how it fits together
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and we just try to put
it in a very simple way
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yet get the
massage across to them.
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Well, I have loved
each of your books.
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I have each of them
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and I have
appreciated them so much.
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They are great
study guides. Thank you.
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I mean, if a person is going
through the Book of Daniel,
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I think he wants to get
that Daniel Pure and Simple
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and study it right
along using your Bible,
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your book rather and your Bible.
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We have lot of study
groups across the United States
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that do that.
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Yes.
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Get the Book of Daniel,
get the one on Revelation,
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use that as the study guide.
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You know, that's a
great idea for prayer meetings
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and for Bible
classes and so forth.
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And there are
lot of small groups
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that get together and
study, just study the word,
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maybe on a Monday
night or a Thursday night
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or some other
night during the week,
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Friday night.
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So those three books
have really made an impact.
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Now you have a new one. Yes.
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And we're gonna find out
about "The Master's Steps".
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This is your newest book.
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And by the way
this is the first time
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I've seen this book is today.
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When we walked on
the set I looked at it.
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It's a beautiful cover
and "The Master's Steps".
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Tell me why did you write
this and what's this about?
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Well, we get quite a few people.
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Probably I should say lot
that write in, telephone in,
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and they say,
"What do you believe?
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You have some that
explains what you believe,
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send it to us."
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Well, you go over here
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and again you can get
the 28 fundamental beliefs,
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that thick and you
send that to a person
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and they're just gonna
go, "Huh," you know, and all.
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Or you can go to other extreme,
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what do you believe and
you give a little tiny pamphlet
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that explains it.
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So I found when I started
trying to find something,
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there was two extremes
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not on either
side and so I thought,
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well, we need to have
something that they can read
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and it gives the
basic fundamental beliefs
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and tries to
make it so it's clear
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and understandable for them.
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And that's why I wrote
"In the Master's Steps".
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Wow. Well, it's
a very good book.
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Tell us a little bit
more about it, would you?
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Well, you know,
the scripture says,
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"That we're to
walk as He walked."
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Yeah. That's what
it says we're to do.
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Well, when it says,
"We're to walk as He walked."
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It's basically telling
us that we are to follow
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what He taught, you
know, the teachings of Jesus.
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And sorry to say
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that many
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of the Christian churches today
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have forgotten
what Jesus taught.
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They have over the years
handed down to one another,
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the teachings,
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and they've picked it up
a little bit in scripture,
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but there's whole
parts in concerning
00:18:22.63\00:18:25.73
the teaching of Jesus
that Christianity misses.
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And so we tried to
do what the Lord said,
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to walk as He walked.
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We tried to put it so
that they can understand
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and what He
taught and to follow Him
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and walk as He walked.
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So this is basically the
purpose of the book and so,
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as people read it,
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they can get an idea
of what Christ believed
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and what He taught.
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And as He went from city to
city and village to village,
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what He told the
people, and when He said,
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"Walk as I
walk," they understood.
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This is the way, walk ye in it.
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And that's the
purpose of the book.
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All right, and what
are some of the subjects
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that you covered?
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Oh, we start out
with one on prayer.
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You can't walk as Christ walked
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if you don't
spend time in prayer.
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And He made
that very, very clear
00:19:25.73\00:19:28.53
that they were to follow Him
and He taught them how to pray.
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And so we start out in the book
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talking about prayer and
what it is and how to pray.
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Lot of people don't
even know how to pray.
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And so when I am
gonna follow Christ
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and walk as He walked,
00:19:45.78\00:19:47.65
then I need to
know how to talk to Him,
00:19:47.68\00:19:50.29
I need to know
how to communicate,
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I need to understand
what I'm doing when I pray,
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and so this is what we
deal within that chapter.
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The great, great
blessings there is in prayer,
00:20:00.23\00:20:04.07
and then also in that chapter,
00:20:04.10\00:20:06.17
it takes the Lord's
prayer and goes through it
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and tries to explain
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the different parts
of the Lord's prayer
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for the people.
00:20:14.01\00:20:15.34
And if a person will
become a person of prayer,
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that's a great, great step
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because we
can't walk with Christ
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if we're not communicating.
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In the Lord's Prayer
there's a statement that,
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"Forgive us our debts
as we forgive our debtors,
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or forgive us our
sins as we forgive those
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who sin against
us and so forth."
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Do you cover that pretty well?
00:20:40.87\00:20:42.34
Yes, we talk about that part.
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Forgiven people
and I think it's,
00:20:44.54\00:20:50.78
I've always said this,
I think I believe it, Jim,
00:20:50.81\00:20:55.28
that it's harder or it's easier
00:20:55.32\00:20:58.72
to forgive someone else
than to forgive ourselves.
00:20:58.75\00:21:03.19
That's probably true.
00:21:03.22\00:21:04.56
You know, but, but
for me to get the monkey,
00:21:04.59\00:21:10.27
I always say the
monkey off my back.
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Yeah.
00:21:12.43\00:21:13.77
I've got to confess my sins,
00:21:13.80\00:21:15.87
I've got to forgive
people that I cannot go around
00:21:15.90\00:21:20.98
and carry in my heart
feelings against somebody else.
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We can't do that and Christ
made that very, very clear,
00:21:25.21\00:21:29.35
that was one of His main points
00:21:29.38\00:21:31.72
is that we didn't carry feelings
00:21:31.75\00:21:35.56
against somebody else.
00:21:35.59\00:21:37.33
In fact, it's
always been difficult
00:21:37.36\00:21:39.96
in a way for me to understand
00:21:40.00\00:21:42.63
how He could take all
the abuse that He took
00:21:42.66\00:21:46.20
and still not harbor
00:21:46.23\00:21:47.97
ill feelings
towards those people.
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Right, right, but
He was able to do it.
00:21:49.80\00:21:52.57
Yeah.
00:21:52.61\00:21:53.94
You know, His
example is something
00:21:53.98\00:21:56.34
that we each should
really follow in that regard.
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It's not, it's
very unhealthy for us
00:22:01.58\00:22:06.65
to hold grudges against
people and yet you, you know,
00:22:06.69\00:22:10.36
we have been around in ministry
and churches and so forth,
00:22:10.39\00:22:14.40
and how many times you
go to a church and various,
00:22:14.43\00:22:18.47
it doesn't take
long before you realize
00:22:18.50\00:22:20.90
that one group sits
one side of the church,
00:22:20.94\00:22:23.17
another sits on another
and there's a leader involved
00:22:23.20\00:22:27.21
that they have fallen
out with each other over
00:22:27.24\00:22:30.51
who knows the most
simple thing sometimes.
00:22:30.55\00:22:33.55
Yeah.
00:22:33.58\00:22:34.92
We always use the illustration
of the color of the carpet.
00:22:34.95\00:22:36.95
You'd be surprised
how many people fallen out
00:22:36.99\00:22:39.12
over carpet in the church
00:22:39.15\00:22:40.76
and they don't
forgive and go on.
00:22:40.79\00:22:43.53
Yeah.
00:22:43.56\00:22:44.89
And, yeah, we've
kind of get the idea
00:22:44.93\00:22:47.33
that as long as we are involved
00:22:47.36\00:22:50.50
and we're clear on
the doctrines and so forth
00:22:50.53\00:22:53.10
that we're okay,
we can hold grudges.
00:22:53.13\00:22:55.67
God says, "We can't do it."
00:22:55.70\00:22:57.11
Right, I could remember
when I went as an intern
00:22:57.14\00:23:00.24
working with HMS.
00:23:00.28\00:23:01.61
Richard Jr. in
Albuquerque, in New Mexico,
00:23:01.64\00:23:04.75
where he pastored,
and I could still remember
00:23:04.78\00:23:08.72
they had just put
carpet in the church.
00:23:08.75\00:23:10.19
Yeah.
00:23:10.22\00:23:11.55
And we walked in
that Sabbath morning
00:23:11.59\00:23:13.86
and I happen to
be standing nearby
00:23:13.89\00:23:15.89
and this sister came
up and upbraided him,
00:23:15.92\00:23:20.73
I mean terrible about the carpet
00:23:20.76\00:23:22.76
how she didn't like it
and how terrible it was
00:23:22.80\00:23:25.83
on and on and on,
00:23:25.87\00:23:27.64
and I will never
forget his answer,
00:23:27.67\00:23:30.01
he just looked at her and said,
00:23:30.04\00:23:31.37
"Well, I see
you're walking on it."
00:23:31.41\00:23:33.41
That was there all there is.
00:23:37.78\00:23:40.32
He had a way of putting things
right to the cord, didn't he?
00:23:40.35\00:23:43.02
Yeah. He really did.
00:23:43.05\00:23:44.39
I think he got
that from his father
00:23:44.42\00:23:45.92
because his father can do that
00:23:45.95\00:23:47.76
but it's amazing how
many times I've gone,
00:23:47.79\00:23:50.23
I went to a church one time
00:23:50.26\00:23:52.19
and the church was
totally split over the organ.
00:23:52.23\00:23:56.43
The music people all
wanted one brand of organ.
00:23:56.46\00:24:00.60
And I'm going to
be honest with you,
00:24:00.64\00:24:01.97
I actually agree with them.
00:24:02.00\00:24:04.37
The pastor wanted
00:24:04.41\00:24:05.97
a whole different brand of organ
00:24:06.01\00:24:08.64
and the music
people kept telling him no,
00:24:08.68\00:24:11.78
and he forced that through.
00:24:11.81\00:24:14.22
Blessed his heart,
he's a wonderful guy
00:24:14.25\00:24:15.92
and a great pastor,
00:24:15.95\00:24:17.29
but he was hung up
on this wrong thing.
00:24:17.32\00:24:19.95
And by the way
that organ company
00:24:19.99\00:24:22.09
went out of business
00:24:22.12\00:24:23.46
and soon they couldn't
even get parts for that organ.
00:24:23.49\00:24:26.96
But the amazing thing is
that it had split that church
00:24:27.00\00:24:31.53
and people would not forgive
each other over the organ.
00:24:31.57\00:24:35.70
Yeah.
00:24:35.74\00:24:37.07
So this
forgiveness is so important.
00:24:37.11\00:24:40.28
If you want to live a
life, as far as I'm concerned,
00:24:40.31\00:24:45.45
it puts spring in your
step and enjoy it day by day.
00:24:45.48\00:24:49.58
Yeah.
00:24:49.62\00:24:50.95
Then make sure
that you're not carrying
00:24:50.99\00:24:52.52
any other feelings.
00:24:52.55\00:24:53.89
That's right,
you just can't do it
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.52
and there's not
anyone who is alive
00:24:56.56\00:24:59.73
and is doing things
00:24:59.76\00:25:01.10
that's not going to
be done wrong by someone.
00:25:01.13\00:25:03.77
Somebody is
going to do you wrong,
00:25:03.80\00:25:05.20
somebody is going
to misunderstand you,
00:25:05.23\00:25:07.27
they're going to
falsely accuse you,
00:25:07.30\00:25:09.84
and, and it's
difficult to say...
00:25:09.87\00:25:13.24
Yeah.
00:25:13.27\00:25:14.61
"I'm just not going
to let that rule my life
00:25:14.64\00:25:19.41
and I'm going to follow the Lord
00:25:19.45\00:25:21.05
and forgive that individual."
00:25:21.08\00:25:23.08
Life is not fair. No.
00:25:23.12\00:25:25.59
Yeah, you've
got to rise above it
00:25:25.62\00:25:28.19
and you rise above
it by keeping it open
00:25:28.22\00:25:32.19
and no feelings against others.
00:25:32.23\00:25:34.20
Absolutely.
00:25:34.23\00:25:35.60
Now the chapter
two is about faith.
00:25:35.63\00:25:38.77
What is faith, Kenneth?
00:25:38.80\00:25:40.50
Well, you can't walk with Christ
00:25:40.54\00:25:43.71
if you're not walking by faith.
00:25:43.74\00:25:45.94
You just can't do it.
00:25:45.97\00:25:48.18
That's what Christ taught.
00:25:48.21\00:25:50.41
He said, you
know, have faith in me,
00:25:50.45\00:25:52.45
oh, you've little faith.
00:25:52.48\00:25:53.82
Yeah.
00:25:53.85\00:25:55.18
You know, over and
over, he stressed this,
00:25:55.22\00:25:56.55
and this is where it's hard
00:25:56.58\00:26:00.36
for many people to walk
00:26:00.39\00:26:04.73
when sometimes you
don't know where you're going.
00:26:04.76\00:26:07.06
Yes. And that's, that's faith.
00:26:07.10\00:26:10.43
You know, when I'm
walking with the Lord
00:26:10.47\00:26:12.63
and I know that I
am right with the Lord
00:26:12.67\00:26:15.77
and yet, I don't
know where that's going
00:26:15.80\00:26:18.81
and I don't know
where that's leaning,
00:26:18.84\00:26:21.21
and yet how to reach out
00:26:21.24\00:26:26.41
and not get the
place that I'm shook up
00:26:26.45\00:26:31.09
or concerned about it
00:26:31.12\00:26:32.62
because I simply have
faith in what Christ is doing.
00:26:32.65\00:26:37.26
And I've seen this so many times
00:26:37.29\00:26:42.76
in my own ministry.
00:26:42.80\00:26:44.20
Yes.
00:26:44.23\00:26:45.57
You know, where faith
as far as I'm concerned,
00:26:45.60\00:26:48.10
faith is simply accepting
00:26:48.14\00:26:50.94
what He says or
what He wants to be done
00:26:50.97\00:26:53.91
and doing rather I understand it
00:26:53.94\00:26:56.24
or rather I can see
it or rather I can't.
00:26:56.28\00:26:58.81
One of the best illustrations
I know is your children,
00:26:58.85\00:27:02.42
you know, with my children.
00:27:02.45\00:27:05.42
We might be
talking about something
00:27:05.45\00:27:07.32
and I would say to them,
00:27:07.36\00:27:08.69
"Well, I'm going
to get you a bike."
00:27:08.72\00:27:13.90
Man, as far as they're concerned
00:27:13.93\00:27:16.36
they have a bike.
00:27:16.40\00:27:17.73
Yeah.
00:27:17.77\00:27:19.10
It wasn't, I mean,
that was it right in there
00:27:19.13\00:27:21.27
they have a bike.
00:27:21.30\00:27:22.64
Well, that's the
same thing is faith is.
00:27:22.67\00:27:24.91
Faith is when I take
the Lord for what He says,
00:27:24.94\00:27:28.44
and it's there,
it's fact, it's faith.
00:27:28.48\00:27:30.95
Yes. Yeah. That's faith.
00:27:30.98\00:27:33.31
You know, the creation
00:27:33.35\00:27:36.45
is a big issue with some people.
00:27:36.48\00:27:38.32
Right.
00:27:38.35\00:27:39.69
And, but Jesus simply
says that He is the creator
00:27:39.72\00:27:45.49
and the Bible says, that He is.
00:27:45.53\00:27:47.43
Yes.
00:27:47.46\00:27:48.80
And then in John
14:1-3, He says some words
00:27:48.83\00:27:54.37
that I just cling onto these
in a lot of different ways,
00:27:54.40\00:27:59.11
but He will say, He
said, "If it were not so,
00:27:59.14\00:28:03.75
I would have told you."
00:28:03.78\00:28:05.51
If He hadn't created the world
He would have said, you know,
00:28:05.55\00:28:09.48
I know that Moses said this,
00:28:09.52\00:28:11.22
and I know that
the Bible said this,
00:28:11.25\00:28:14.16
and other Bible writers say this
00:28:14.19\00:28:15.66
and I've even said
it, but it's not true.
00:28:15.69\00:28:18.06
He would say it's not true
00:28:18.09\00:28:20.10
because He did
this on so many things.
00:28:20.13\00:28:23.10
In fact, we'll look at
some of those a little later on
00:28:23.13\00:28:25.83
that you discuss in your book,
00:28:25.87\00:28:28.94
"But if it were not
so, I would have told you."
00:28:28.97\00:28:34.24
In my experience as
far as I was concerned,
00:28:34.28\00:28:38.11
when I accepted
00:28:38.15\00:28:40.72
the first four
words of the Bible,
00:28:40.75\00:28:45.02
I had to accept that by faith.
00:28:45.05\00:28:47.46
Yes.
00:28:47.49\00:28:48.82
And I had to decide, am I going
to accept this as a reality,
00:28:48.86\00:28:55.53
as something
that actually exist,
00:28:55.56\00:28:57.83
in the beginning God.
00:28:57.87\00:29:01.20
I accept Him totally
and completely by faith.
00:29:01.24\00:29:05.47
Yes.
00:29:05.51\00:29:06.84
Oh, yes, there's
evidences and all,
00:29:06.88\00:29:09.74
but there's lots of
arguments against it.
00:29:09.78\00:29:12.01
Yes.
00:29:12.05\00:29:13.38
But I can reach out in faith
and take hold of that and say,
00:29:13.42\00:29:16.22
I believe and God answers
that request in what we do.
00:29:16.25\00:29:21.22
Now chapter 3, Jesus
asks us to believe in Him.
00:29:21.26\00:29:25.39
How do you cover that?
00:29:25.43\00:29:27.20
Well, to me that is essential
00:29:27.23\00:29:32.00
is that I believe in Him,
00:29:32.03\00:29:34.30
I accept Him as
my personal savior.
00:29:34.34\00:29:39.47
I understand that I
might pick up the Bible
00:29:39.51\00:29:43.01
and I can read it and
say, "Yeah, I believe this,"
00:29:43.04\00:29:47.02
but if I don't by faith
00:29:47.05\00:29:50.09
accept Jesus Christ
as my personal savior
00:29:50.12\00:29:55.12
and invite Him into my life
00:29:55.16\00:29:58.59
that I from that
point on walk with Him
00:29:58.63\00:30:02.33
and follow Him in what I do.
00:30:02.36\00:30:05.40
I believe in Him and so He says,
00:30:05.43\00:30:07.84
"Believe in me,"
00:30:07.87\00:30:09.20
and you and I follow the
Lord and we do His bidding
00:30:09.24\00:30:15.48
because we believe in Him,
00:30:15.51\00:30:17.41
because He is our
master if you please.
00:30:17.45\00:30:20.75
Now how do we
fulfill all righteousness
00:30:20.78\00:30:23.39
or does He do that?
00:30:23.42\00:30:25.65
Well, Jesus Christ
came here to this world
00:30:25.69\00:30:32.46
to establish that
someone in human form
00:30:32.49\00:30:38.63
like mankind could
come and live a life
00:30:38.67\00:30:43.34
in perfect agreement
to the will of the Father.
00:30:43.37\00:30:48.08
Perfect agreement with the law,
00:30:48.11\00:30:50.38
perfect agreement
in all that was taught,
00:30:50.41\00:30:53.15
perfect righteousness.
00:30:53.18\00:30:55.08
He came to demonstrate
that to the world and He did,
00:30:55.12\00:30:59.65
He came and He
lived a perfect life,
00:30:59.69\00:31:02.59
never even sinned so
much, Jim, as in thought.
00:31:02.62\00:31:05.09
Right.
00:31:05.13\00:31:06.46
But He lived an
absolute perfect life
00:31:06.49\00:31:08.56
all the way through.
00:31:08.60\00:31:12.00
When you and I by faith
reach out and except Him,
00:31:12.03\00:31:18.11
then by the mere fact
that He's done this for us,
00:31:18.14\00:31:22.14
He gives us His righteousness,
00:31:22.18\00:31:25.75
that He gives to
us or imputes to us
00:31:25.78\00:31:29.18
His righteousness.
00:31:29.22\00:31:30.82
We don't deserve it,
this is why it's called grace.
00:31:30.85\00:31:34.42
We don't deserve it.
00:31:34.46\00:31:35.79
It's not something we earned,
00:31:35.82\00:31:37.16
but it's something
that He gives to us.
00:31:37.19\00:31:40.26
Won't do you any good whatsoever
00:31:40.30\00:31:45.37
if you don't accept
His death in your behalf,
00:31:45.40\00:31:50.91
and so I not only have
to accept His righteousness
00:31:50.94\00:31:54.01
into my life
00:31:54.04\00:31:55.38
but I have to accept His death.
00:31:55.41\00:31:57.71
In my behalf He paid the
price that I rightfully owe.
00:31:57.75\00:32:03.52
He did that for me.
00:32:03.55\00:32:04.92
And this is what is involved
when He says believe in me,
00:32:04.95\00:32:09.26
I'm believing
that He has done for me
00:32:09.29\00:32:13.19
what I could not do for myself,
00:32:13.23\00:32:15.46
what I did not
deserve in any way.
00:32:15.50\00:32:18.10
He has done that for me.
00:32:18.13\00:32:20.80
Yeah, okay.
00:32:20.84\00:32:22.47
Well, fulfill all righteousness.
00:32:22.50\00:32:25.91
And He did, didn't He?
He did in every respect.
00:32:25.94\00:32:28.94
And He says then, "I
came not to destroy."
00:32:28.98\00:32:32.88
You know, does this involve
the destruction of the wicked
00:32:32.91\00:32:37.25
or what does
this chapter involve?
00:32:37.29\00:32:39.32
Now, when it says He
came not to destroy, Jim,
00:32:39.35\00:32:43.96
that's a chapter about the law.
00:32:43.99\00:32:45.63
Okay.
00:32:45.66\00:32:47.00
He said, "I came not to
destroy the law but to fulfill."
00:32:47.03\00:32:50.00
Yes.
00:32:50.03\00:32:51.37
And that so often
is one of the teachings
00:32:51.40\00:32:54.24
that
Christianity has lost sight of
00:32:54.27\00:32:57.61
and you hear it misquoted,
00:32:57.64\00:32:59.54
you may hear it used the way
00:32:59.57\00:33:01.48
that Christ
didn't use it at all.
00:33:01.51\00:33:03.28
They'll say, well, see He said,
00:33:03.31\00:33:04.88
He did not come to
destroy but to fulfill.
00:33:04.91\00:33:07.22
So He did away
with it. He did what?
00:33:07.25\00:33:10.49
He came not to
destroy but He destroyed?
00:33:10.52\00:33:12.62
Yeah, right. No,
it doesn't make sense.
00:33:12.65\00:33:14.82
No, it doesn't.
00:33:14.86\00:33:16.19
So we tried to put it
in the right perspective
00:33:16.22\00:33:20.03
so you can see what
He meant when He said,
00:33:20.06\00:33:22.06
He came to fulfill,
00:33:22.10\00:33:24.00
and when He came
to fulfill that mean
00:33:24.03\00:33:26.27
He lived a life in
absolute perfect agreement
00:33:26.30\00:33:29.54
with what the law taught.
00:33:29.57\00:33:31.07
Yeah.
00:33:31.11\00:33:32.44
You know, this is
one of the areas the law,
00:33:32.47\00:33:34.84
the Sabbath, and so forth
00:33:34.88\00:33:36.41
that we find
that certain groups,
00:33:36.44\00:33:39.48
particularly religious groups
get so upset with us over,
00:33:39.51\00:33:44.72
and I think the reason is
00:33:44.75\00:33:47.16
because they
cannot prove us wrong.
00:33:47.19\00:33:49.36
Right. We are
very obviously right.
00:33:49.39\00:33:52.83
And, yet, through tradition
they have followed this
00:33:52.86\00:33:55.80
going clear back to
the time of Constantine,
00:33:55.83\00:33:58.53
so they have continued to follow
00:33:58.57\00:34:01.64
some of these
teachings that are not biblical.
00:34:01.67\00:34:04.07
Right.
00:34:04.11\00:34:05.44
And, yet, they will stand
up and say we follow the Bible
00:34:05.47\00:34:08.74
and the Bible only, and yet,
they pass over some of these.
00:34:08.78\00:34:14.58
It's just amazing to hear
how upset they get with us
00:34:14.62\00:34:19.85
when we just simply
say, "Look, read the Bible."
00:34:19.89\00:34:22.29
Yes. And it's amazing to me.
00:34:22.32\00:34:25.26
It kind of amuses me.
00:34:25.29\00:34:27.63
Dona Klein that
does works with us.
00:34:27.66\00:34:33.13
Lot of times when she's
talking to people or some men,
00:34:33.17\00:34:37.81
they say, "Well,
what is Pastor Cox's?
00:34:37.84\00:34:40.21
What does he believe in?"
00:34:40.24\00:34:42.44
And she'll say, "He's
a Seventh-day Adventist."
00:34:42.48\00:34:45.28
And she will say, "Do
you know why that is?"
00:34:45.31\00:34:48.78
And they say, "No."
00:34:48.82\00:34:50.15
She says, "Because
that's what the Bible teaches."
00:34:50.19\00:34:51.99
Yeah, that's it,
very simple, yeah.
00:34:52.02\00:34:54.36
That's what the Bible teaches.
00:34:54.39\00:34:56.62
All right, Lord of the Sabbath.
00:34:56.66\00:34:58.79
Tell me about that chapter?
00:34:58.83\00:35:01.23
Well, this is
certainly one of the subjects
00:35:01.26\00:35:04.27
that has been lost sight of
00:35:04.30\00:35:07.94
and unfortunately, Jim,
00:35:07.97\00:35:11.44
tradition has such a strong,
strong hold on all of us.
00:35:11.47\00:35:17.01
Yeah.
00:35:17.05\00:35:18.38
You know, we are
born into a place
00:35:18.41\00:35:20.15
and we grow up there
and we're taught this,
00:35:20.18\00:35:23.32
even though there may
not be any basis for it,
00:35:23.35\00:35:26.96
we were taught it.
00:35:26.99\00:35:28.32
And so it just holds a
great, great hold on us
00:35:28.36\00:35:34.26
that for many, many people
it's very, very hard to break.
00:35:34.30\00:35:37.97
Yeah.
00:35:38.00\00:35:39.33
You know, but
Christ all the way through
00:35:39.37\00:35:43.37
He never taught any other day
00:35:43.41\00:35:47.48
than the seventh day
of the week, Saturday,
00:35:47.51\00:35:51.45
as the Sabbath
00:35:51.48\00:35:53.42
and what people
miss so often in this,
00:35:53.45\00:35:57.49
is the Sabbath.
00:35:57.52\00:36:00.62
How should I put it?
00:36:00.66\00:36:02.29
Is not something that
God gave it to you or to me,
00:36:02.32\00:36:07.96
He didn't give
it to us, He said,
00:36:08.00\00:36:10.23
"My Sabbath, My holy day,
00:36:10.27\00:36:13.13
it's His day and it's not ours."
00:36:13.17\00:36:16.57
It's not for me to be
able to do whatever I want to
00:36:16.60\00:36:20.41
with the Sabbath.
00:36:20.44\00:36:21.78
It's His Sabbath.
00:36:21.81\00:36:23.14
And so, our God
calls upon me to walk
00:36:23.18\00:36:27.48
as He walked and
keep the Sabbath,
00:36:27.52\00:36:30.15
but it's His
Sabbath and always will be.
00:36:30.19\00:36:33.36
Yeah.
00:36:33.39\00:36:35.32
It is amazing.
00:36:35.36\00:36:37.13
The other question, the
issues that came up with Christ
00:36:37.16\00:36:40.86
as the Sabbath was
never about the day.
00:36:40.90\00:36:42.90
No.
00:36:42.93\00:36:44.27
They never, He was never saying,
00:36:44.30\00:36:46.07
"Oh, it should be another day."
00:36:46.10\00:36:47.57
No. Never.
00:36:47.60\00:36:48.94
It was the manner of keeping
00:36:48.97\00:36:50.97
and they had
become so legalistic
00:36:51.01\00:36:54.54
that they wouldn't even help
a sick person on the Sabbath,
00:36:54.58\00:36:57.91
and He was trying to say
00:36:57.95\00:36:59.75
it's lawful to do
good on the Sabbath.
00:36:59.78\00:37:02.35
Correct.
00:37:02.38\00:37:03.72
This was the
issue and never the day.
00:37:03.75\00:37:07.36
Right.
00:37:07.39\00:37:08.72
That was never even in question.
00:37:08.76\00:37:11.09
And to me the Sabbath
has always been a time of,
00:37:11.13\00:37:15.80
how should I say,
00:37:15.83\00:37:17.37
a time of in a
sense of celebration.
00:37:17.40\00:37:21.07
Yeah.
00:37:21.10\00:37:22.44
It's never been a
time in which it was
00:37:22.47\00:37:25.51
a great, great burden
for me to keep the Sabbath.
00:37:25.54\00:37:28.68
No.
00:37:28.71\00:37:30.05
It just, I'd
always enjoy the Sabbath
00:37:30.08\00:37:32.28
and Christ wants us
to enjoy the Sabbath.
00:37:32.31\00:37:35.45
He blessed it, He hallowed
it, He sanctified it to help you
00:37:35.48\00:37:39.39
and I to learn
the blessing there is
00:37:39.42\00:37:42.42
in the Sabbath.
00:37:42.46\00:37:43.79
Yes.
00:37:43.83\00:37:45.16
And so He gives me a day
00:37:45.19\00:37:47.10
that He blesses in a special way
00:37:47.13\00:37:50.20
and I can come into
closed communion with Him
00:37:50.23\00:37:53.74
and enjoy all the
blessings that He has for me.
00:37:53.77\00:37:58.17
And this is what
Sabbath keeping is about.
00:37:58.21\00:38:02.14
It's not about being legalistic.
00:38:02.18\00:38:05.65
No.
00:38:05.68\00:38:07.02
God was never
legalistic and Christ wasn't.
00:38:07.05\00:38:09.65
And that's what Christ
opposed was the legalism.
00:38:09.68\00:38:12.59
Right.
00:38:12.62\00:38:13.96
When He went through
the wheat field, they said,
00:38:13.99\00:38:17.46
he was breaking the Sabbath.
00:38:17.49\00:38:18.83
He says, "Absolutely not." Yeah.
00:38:18.86\00:38:21.00
And so we have
to be careful today
00:38:21.03\00:38:24.03
that we don't become legalistic
on keeping of the Sabbath.
00:38:24.07\00:38:27.67
And we have to be,
you know, understand,
00:38:27.70\00:38:30.87
sure the Sabbath is
the fourth commandment.
00:38:30.91\00:38:33.64
Yeah.
00:38:33.68\00:38:35.01
And He makes that very clear,
"Remember the Sabbath day."
00:38:35.04\00:38:37.11
That's right.
00:38:37.15\00:38:38.48
Only one of the commandments
that says, remember,
00:38:38.51\00:38:40.38
and God pointed
that particularly,
00:38:40.42\00:38:43.18
and so He tells us
that we're to keep it holy,
00:38:43.22\00:38:46.86
and He tells us
through as He walk day by day,
00:38:46.89\00:38:51.73
place to place,
00:38:51.76\00:38:53.33
He showed how the Sabbath
was to be kept in His life.
00:38:53.36\00:38:57.37
He performed more
miracles on the Sabbath
00:38:57.40\00:39:00.87
than any other day of the week.
00:39:00.90\00:39:02.24
Right.
00:39:02.27\00:39:03.61
You know, and so He's
showing that it's not wrong
00:39:03.64\00:39:06.84
to minister to others
but, Jim, it's not right,
00:39:06.88\00:39:11.61
it's not right
for me to take a day
00:39:11.65\00:39:15.05
that's His that He gave to me
00:39:15.08\00:39:19.82
and for me to forget Him
and go and do what I wanna do.
00:39:19.85\00:39:24.33
Right.
00:39:24.36\00:39:25.69
And pay no attention to
it, that's not right either.
00:39:25.73\00:39:27.50
No, He didn't give me the
right to change it either.
00:39:27.53\00:39:29.70
No.
00:39:29.73\00:39:31.07
You know, He was
crucified on Friday.
00:39:31.10\00:39:33.37
Right.
00:39:33.40\00:39:34.74
But that doesn't mean
that we should keep Friday
00:39:34.77\00:39:37.97
as our day of rest.
00:39:38.01\00:39:39.71
No.
00:39:39.74\00:39:41.08
And He rose on
Sunday, but that doesn't mean
00:39:41.11\00:39:43.71
that there are
ways that we honor that
00:39:43.75\00:39:46.21
through baptism
and through communion.
00:39:46.25\00:39:49.12
But He gave us the Sabbath,
00:39:49.15\00:39:53.12
that creation and
has never rescinded it.
00:39:53.15\00:39:56.06
Never.
00:39:56.09\00:39:57.43
Not only has He
not rescinded it,
00:39:57.46\00:39:59.06
He's made it clear
in scripture in Isaiah
00:39:59.09\00:40:01.53
that's it's
gonna be continuing on.
00:40:01.56\00:40:03.67
Exactly. It's not just over.
00:40:03.70\00:40:06.03
You know, what's
so disappointing to me
00:40:06.07\00:40:08.67
is that there are great pastors,
00:40:08.70\00:40:11.87
I'll say great,
there're honorable men
00:40:11.91\00:40:14.74
who are pastoring large churches
00:40:14.78\00:40:17.58
who know this to be true.
00:40:17.61\00:40:19.45
They know it to be true.
00:40:19.48\00:40:20.82
Some of us have
visited with individually.
00:40:20.85\00:40:24.59
I visited an
evangelist to his credentials
00:40:24.62\00:40:28.79
out of one of the large churches
00:40:28.82\00:40:30.49
in this nation.
00:40:30.53\00:40:32.16
And that pastor at that
time, he's passed away since.
00:40:32.19\00:40:37.00
The evangelist
and I studied together
00:40:37.03\00:40:39.00
and he came on the conviction
00:40:39.03\00:40:41.24
that the Sabbath
was the seventh day
00:40:41.27\00:40:43.71
and still that it
was still God Sabbath.
00:40:43.74\00:40:47.51
So he went to this
pastor, and he said,
00:40:47.54\00:40:50.55
"Did you know this?"
00:40:50.58\00:40:51.91
And the pastor
said, "Yes, I know it."
00:40:51.95\00:40:54.08
He said, "Then why
don't you teach it?"
00:40:54.12\00:40:56.32
He said, "Well, I have
been pastor of this church
00:40:56.35\00:40:58.19
for 46 years."
00:40:58.22\00:41:00.06
He says, "I want to make 50.
00:41:00.09\00:41:02.09
If I told them on Sunday morning
00:41:02.12\00:41:04.73
about the Sabbath,
00:41:04.76\00:41:06.66
by that evening I would
no longer be the pastor."
00:41:06.70\00:41:10.53
And I have a relative
who went to his pastor
00:41:10.57\00:41:15.77
in a larger church,
a very large church.
00:41:15.80\00:41:20.18
And they, he
mentioned to his pastor,
00:41:20.21\00:41:23.38
he started talking about this.
00:41:23.41\00:41:25.85
And the pastor
says, "I know it's true."
00:41:25.88\00:41:28.55
And he said, "Why
don't you keep it?"
00:41:28.58\00:41:30.22
He said, "Well, I can
never convince the people
00:41:30.25\00:41:33.02
of the truth."
00:41:33.05\00:41:34.39
Because of tradition,
they've read this tradition
00:41:34.42\00:41:36.49
that they've always gone.
00:41:36.52\00:41:38.83
And that particular
pastor in many of these churches
00:41:38.86\00:41:43.37
they make a lot of money.
00:41:43.40\00:41:45.67
He was paid $365,000 a year.
00:41:45.70\00:41:50.61
So my brother
told me later, he said,
00:41:50.64\00:41:53.64
"You know, he had 365
reasons not to keep the Sabbath.
00:41:53.68\00:41:59.81
That was a $1000 for each day
00:41:59.85\00:42:02.68
that he was paid
to be their pastor."
00:42:02.72\00:42:04.82
Unfortunately,
there's a back to the part
00:42:04.85\00:42:07.16
that we talked about faith.
00:42:07.19\00:42:09.52
Yeah.
00:42:09.56\00:42:10.89
You know, if this
is what the Lord says,
00:42:10.93\00:42:13.70
then by faith I need
to step out and do it.
00:42:13.73\00:42:16.46
But when they come face to
face with this, unfortunately,
00:42:16.50\00:42:20.34
many times, all of
a sudden their job...
00:42:20.37\00:42:23.91
Yeah. Their livelihood.
00:42:23.94\00:42:27.71
Lot of people thinking,
00:42:27.74\00:42:29.11
all of this come
zooming up before them
00:42:29.14\00:42:31.78
and it's very
hard for them to see
00:42:31.81\00:42:34.45
by faith what
God will do for them
00:42:34.48\00:42:37.29
if they just give Him a chance.
00:42:37.32\00:42:38.65
Right. But this is
what they run into.
00:42:38.69\00:42:42.16
And, of course, my
heart goes out to them
00:42:42.19\00:42:44.09
because lot of
those men are sincere...
00:42:44.13\00:42:47.40
Yes, they are.
00:42:47.43\00:42:48.76
Wonderful individuals,
00:42:48.80\00:42:50.63
but faith requires a bigger leap
00:42:50.67\00:42:55.77
if you want to put
it, it's out there.
00:42:55.80\00:42:57.91
That's right.
00:42:57.94\00:43:00.24
You and I have an old
friend who is now passed away
00:43:00.28\00:43:05.25
and sleeping and
waiting for the resurrection,
00:43:05.28\00:43:07.88
but he was introduced to
00:43:07.92\00:43:11.35
one of the most
well-known televangelist
00:43:11.39\00:43:14.02
who's still
over on a television,
00:43:14.06\00:43:16.16
and they've studied for
week after week, and, in fact,
00:43:16.19\00:43:19.49
this televangelist
put him on his payroll.
00:43:19.53\00:43:23.77
He thought that much
of our Adventist pastor
00:43:23.80\00:43:27.20
who was retired and
was struggling financially,
00:43:27.24\00:43:30.61
and he put him on his payroll.
00:43:30.64\00:43:32.24
Paid, gave him the
salary the rest of his life and,
00:43:32.27\00:43:37.81
but this gentleman
convinced this televangelist
00:43:37.85\00:43:42.55
that the Sabbath was true
and he totally believed him.
00:43:42.58\00:43:46.02
So for a while
he was on everyday
00:43:46.05\00:43:49.22
and on Fridays
he had before said,
00:43:49.26\00:43:53.80
"Go to church this Sunday."
00:43:53.83\00:43:55.66
Afterwards he said,
"Go to church this week."
00:43:55.70\00:43:57.93
And then sometimes he would say,
00:43:57.97\00:43:59.50
"On Sabbath there were
the Seventh-day Adventists,
00:43:59.53\00:44:01.74
they are good
people are on Sunday."
00:44:01.77\00:44:04.01
He said that many, many times.
00:44:04.04\00:44:06.34
But he became convinced
but he could not break away.
00:44:06.37\00:44:10.75
Now he called
another televangelist
00:44:10.78\00:44:13.52
who happened to be a
lady and he said to her,
00:44:13.55\00:44:17.02
"Do you realize that the
Sabbath is still binding?"
00:44:17.05\00:44:20.89
She said, "Yes."
00:44:20.92\00:44:22.72
He said, "Then why
don't we teach it?"
00:44:22.76\00:44:25.23
She said, "You do so
00:44:25.26\00:44:27.90
and you'll be off
the air in six months.
00:44:27.93\00:44:29.93
Your money will dry up,
and it will be off the air."
00:44:29.96\00:44:33.17
So there's too
much of that involved.
00:44:33.20\00:44:35.34
Let me tell you,
it does take courage
00:44:35.37\00:44:39.21
to keep the Seventh-day Sabbath.
00:44:39.24\00:44:41.04
You may have to give up a job,
00:44:41.08\00:44:43.11
you may have to
give up some friends,
00:44:43.14\00:44:45.21
you may have to give
up people, the friends,
00:44:45.25\00:44:49.75
that you never
wanted to give up before,
00:44:49.78\00:44:52.52
but I assure you
that in the long run
00:44:52.55\00:44:55.62
when you stand
with Jesus some day
00:44:55.66\00:44:58.66
and He says to you, "Well done,
my good and faithful servant."
00:44:58.69\00:45:03.80
That you will know that
any sacrifice you have made
00:45:03.83\00:45:07.24
is certainly
going to be worth it.
00:45:07.27\00:45:10.21
Amen.
00:45:10.24\00:45:11.57
And I assure you that
there will be blessings,
00:45:11.61\00:45:13.44
but there will
also be sacrifices
00:45:13.48\00:45:15.81
that you've made if you
do what God wants you to do
00:45:15.84\00:45:19.11
and you step out
00:45:19.15\00:45:20.58
and you keep the
seventh day Sabbath.
00:45:20.62\00:45:22.18
And you know as
well as I do, Jim,
00:45:22.22\00:45:25.59
I have seen hundreds
00:45:25.62\00:45:27.82
and I'm sure you
probably have too...
00:45:27.86\00:45:29.52
Yeah.
00:45:29.56\00:45:30.89
Of people who by
faith stepped out
00:45:30.93\00:45:35.13
to keep the Sabbath
that lost their job.
00:45:35.16\00:45:37.83
Yeah.
00:45:37.87\00:45:39.20
I mean, they were fired over it.
00:45:39.23\00:45:40.57
I've seen them.
00:45:40.60\00:45:41.94
I've gone to the
employers and talked to them.
00:45:41.97\00:45:43.94
I know firsthand they were fired
00:45:43.97\00:45:47.18
and all lost their
livelihood, lost their income.
00:45:47.21\00:45:52.51
I do not know of one case
00:45:52.55\00:45:57.12
where that person didn't wind up
00:45:57.15\00:45:58.85
with as good a job
00:45:58.89\00:46:00.22
or the better
than the one they had.
00:46:00.26\00:46:02.16
Always.
00:46:02.19\00:46:03.53
God always comes
through, He doesn't fail.
00:46:03.56\00:46:06.93
But you must not,
00:46:06.96\00:46:09.56
I do not ever
promise people that though...
00:46:09.60\00:46:11.73
No.
00:46:11.77\00:46:13.10
Because it takes
the faith of saying,
00:46:13.13\00:46:15.70
I will lay it on the
altar, I will lose it,
00:46:15.74\00:46:18.11
I will lose my
house if I have to,
00:46:18.14\00:46:20.48
I will lose everything for him
before he is able to do that.
00:46:20.51\00:46:24.35
Oh, yeah, you've got
to make the sacrifice.
00:46:24.38\00:46:26.28
Right, exactly.
00:46:26.31\00:46:27.65
And, you know,
and say I do this,
00:46:27.68\00:46:29.02
I don't care if
I'm never employed,
00:46:29.05\00:46:30.95
I'm gonna do this,
00:46:30.99\00:46:32.32
yes. Then God...
00:46:32.35\00:46:33.69
Then He will. Operates.
00:46:33.72\00:46:35.72
Yeah, absolutely, but,
00:46:35.76\00:46:37.86
and I could just give
you instance after instance
00:46:37.89\00:46:41.36
from the very
beginning of my ministry
00:46:41.40\00:46:43.63
I saw this happen.
00:46:43.67\00:46:45.17
Time and time.
Time and time again.
00:46:45.20\00:46:47.90
And far as I'm concerned,
it doesn't make any difference.
00:46:47.94\00:46:52.17
The cost of the employment
whether it's $10 or $100
00:46:52.21\00:46:56.48
or whether it's $10,000...
00:46:56.51\00:46:58.15
Yeah.
00:46:58.18\00:46:59.51
God is not
limited in what He can do.
00:46:59.55\00:47:01.42
No, He isn't,
absolutely, I agree with you.
00:47:01.45\00:47:04.52
Well, there are
some more chapters here.
00:47:04.55\00:47:06.22
We're not gonna have
time to go into all of them
00:47:06.25\00:47:09.69
but, Kenneth,
summarize a little bit
00:47:09.72\00:47:11.43
those last four, five chapters?
00:47:11.46\00:47:13.76
Well, Jim, what I
did is I took things
00:47:13.80\00:47:18.97
that Christ taught
00:47:19.00\00:47:20.54
as He went from
village to village
00:47:20.57\00:47:23.14
and quotes the marvelous promise
00:47:23.17\00:47:26.01
that He gave of heaven,
00:47:26.04\00:47:29.64
marvelous promises that
He gave of His coming back,
00:47:29.68\00:47:33.52
gathering all of His people,
00:47:33.55\00:47:35.68
promises that He gave to you
and I of immortality in Christ,
00:47:35.72\00:47:41.19
all these things that He taught,
00:47:41.22\00:47:43.22
believed and
these became the message
00:47:43.26\00:47:48.33
and this became the
message that Christ wanted us
00:47:48.36\00:47:52.77
as individuals to
share with other people.
00:47:52.80\00:47:56.67
So we wrote the book so
that it might be something
00:47:56.71\00:48:00.68
that you can take
00:48:00.71\00:48:02.14
and share with your friend
or your neighbor or somebody
00:48:02.18\00:48:05.38
and help them
understand what Christ taught.
00:48:05.41\00:48:07.68
Yes.
00:48:07.72\00:48:09.22
And also to just make sure
as you read through the book,
00:48:09.25\00:48:13.86
settle it in your own soul,
00:48:13.89\00:48:16.52
settle in your own soul and say,
00:48:16.56\00:48:19.06
"Okay, this is what I believe,
00:48:19.09\00:48:22.93
this is what He taught,
I'm gonna walk with the Master,
00:48:22.96\00:48:26.30
this is what I'm gonna do
00:48:26.33\00:48:27.97
and settle that
once and for all.
00:48:28.00\00:48:30.51
Yes.
00:48:30.54\00:48:31.87
And that's what
we... There is...
00:48:31.91\00:48:35.18
I don't know how many,
Jim, I didn't try to keep up
00:48:35.21\00:48:37.45
but there's hundreds of
texts that teach these things.
00:48:37.48\00:48:42.62
Yes.
00:48:42.65\00:48:43.99
And it's not
just one or two texts,
00:48:44.02\00:48:45.45
there's hundreds that teach us
00:48:45.49\00:48:47.32
and we hope
that is clear to them
00:48:47.36\00:48:49.76
and they can see and
understand word of His.
00:48:49.79\00:48:52.66
Yeah, you know, Kenneth,
00:48:52.69\00:48:54.43
the Lord has given
you the opportunity
00:48:54.46\00:48:56.93
to present the gospel
all over the many continents,
00:48:56.97\00:49:01.20
put it that way,
00:49:01.24\00:49:02.57
and you could go and
do it on a personal basis
00:49:02.60\00:49:07.84
but never was there the impact
00:49:07.88\00:49:11.11
that has
happened in your ministry
00:49:11.15\00:49:12.48
since you went on television.
00:49:12.51\00:49:14.12
Oh, no question about it.
00:49:14.15\00:49:15.52
And 3ABN was the base
for your television ministry.
00:49:15.55\00:49:21.02
It was the
network where you started.
00:49:21.06\00:49:23.86
Yeah.
00:49:23.89\00:49:25.23
And where so
many others started,
00:49:25.26\00:49:26.59
like It is Written
more or less started there.
00:49:26.63\00:49:29.40
Definitely Amazing Facts began
00:49:29.43\00:49:32.60
with our first
television series.
00:49:32.63\00:49:34.64
There were radio
ministries. Right.
00:49:34.67\00:49:37.61
And began there,
00:49:37.64\00:49:39.34
and so I know
that you have a vision
00:49:39.37\00:49:45.15
for the future in your ministry
00:49:45.18\00:49:47.72
and I'm gonna ask you something.
00:49:47.75\00:49:49.08
How do you think
that television fits in,
00:49:49.12\00:49:52.89
in the finishing of God's work
00:49:52.92\00:49:55.32
and giving this
message around the world?
00:49:55.36\00:50:00.96
Jim, television
fits in, no question,
00:50:01.00\00:50:03.60
because it helps
spread the message.
00:50:03.63\00:50:05.33
It helps get it out there
and where people can hear it,
00:50:05.37\00:50:09.44
understand what it says,
but it does not have the impact
00:50:09.47\00:50:14.38
that internet is gonna have.
00:50:14.41\00:50:16.04
Yeah, you think
that's gonna be great?
00:50:16.08\00:50:17.51
The internet is gonna
change all of our perspective
00:50:17.55\00:50:21.18
in what's happening,
00:50:21.22\00:50:22.55
that doesn't mean
television won't still be there
00:50:22.58\00:50:24.52
and it won't be a
great affective tool,
00:50:24.55\00:50:26.86
but internet is a thing
00:50:26.89\00:50:28.22
that today is
going to reach people
00:50:28.26\00:50:31.33
all over the world,
no matter where's that,
00:50:31.36\00:50:34.10
they can pick it up and find it,
00:50:34.13\00:50:36.23
and that's where we
need to be concentrating
00:50:36.26\00:50:39.00
and working to
get the message out,
00:50:39.03\00:50:41.87
put it on the internet,
00:50:41.90\00:50:44.04
get it out there
so people can see it.
00:50:44.07\00:50:45.94
Of course you know that internet
00:50:45.97\00:50:47.48
has to be televised so to speak.
00:50:47.51\00:50:49.58
Yes.
00:50:49.61\00:50:50.95
And when you look
at the whole thing,
00:50:50.98\00:50:52.41
years ago that
radio was the thing,
00:50:52.45\00:50:55.15
then television
comes on and people say,
00:50:55.18\00:50:57.35
"Oh, radio is gone."
00:50:57.39\00:50:58.85
More people
listen to the radio today
00:50:58.89\00:51:01.52
than they did before.
00:51:01.56\00:51:02.89
Yes, there's
gonna be a great impact.
00:51:02.92\00:51:05.93
We must use the
impact to the internet,
00:51:05.96\00:51:08.56
but, folks, let me
tell you, there is never,
00:51:08.60\00:51:11.13
it's not gonna
replace television.
00:51:11.17\00:51:12.50
No.
00:51:12.53\00:51:13.87
Television is
still going to be there
00:51:13.90\00:51:15.50
and for the masses of people
00:51:15.54\00:51:18.51
and it's just
amazing how God has used that
00:51:18.54\00:51:23.11
to reach a world that is,
00:51:23.14\00:51:26.85
that is hungry for
truth, for biblical truth.
00:51:26.88\00:51:31.19
Well, listen,
we're coming down here
00:51:31.22\00:51:32.79
to the last few
minutes, seconds of our program.
00:51:32.82\00:51:36.99
Is there something
you would like to share
00:51:37.03\00:51:38.96
with our audience, Kenneth?
00:51:38.99\00:51:40.70
Well, main thing I'd like to say
00:51:40.73\00:51:42.70
is just be strong in faith.
00:51:42.73\00:51:47.00
Reach out, take hold
of the wonderful promises
00:51:47.04\00:51:50.61
of God's Word,
00:51:50.64\00:51:52.44
open up your heart,
invite Christ into your life,
00:51:52.47\00:51:56.88
and as you do then
watch, watch for His lenience
00:51:56.91\00:52:02.15
and as you
understand the Word of God,
00:52:02.18\00:52:04.69
as you see His
leadings in your life
00:52:04.72\00:52:06.89
walk with Him day by
day, follow in His footsteps.
00:52:06.92\00:52:11.29
He will guide and
direct you in a special way.
00:52:11.33\00:52:15.06
Well, the name of the
book is In the Master's Steps.
00:52:15.10\00:52:19.53
And, Kenneth, how
can we get a copy?
00:52:19.57\00:52:22.04
You can receive
a copy by writing
00:52:22.07\00:52:25.24
to Kenneth Cox Ministries,
00:52:25.27\00:52:27.38
PO Box 1027,
00:52:27.41\00:52:30.15
Loma Linda, California 92354.
00:52:30.18\00:52:34.52
Or you can get one by calling
00:52:34.55\00:52:38.22
951-232-9822.
00:52:38.25\00:52:43.49
And also you can receive it
00:52:43.53\00:52:45.49
by calling 3ABN
ordering from them
00:52:45.53\00:52:49.53
or you can get it by
00:52:49.56\00:52:51.10
or going through
your local ABC Store,
00:52:51.13\00:52:54.24
they all carry them,
00:52:54.27\00:52:55.67
and I'm sure they will
be glad to take care of you.
00:52:55.70\00:52:58.07
Are they sold on Amazon?
00:52:58.11\00:53:00.51
No, that particular book is not.
00:53:00.54\00:53:02.38
Okay.
00:53:02.41\00:53:03.75
It will be but it isn't yet.
00:53:03.78\00:53:05.28
It isn't, okay, should
be able to get it there.
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Well, listen, thank you
for joining us and keep on,
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keeping on with Jesus.
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