Participants: Jill Morikone (Host), Mollie Steenson, John Lomacang, Tom Ferguson
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017023A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I wanna spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I wanna spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I wanna spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:10 My name is Jill Morikone, 01:11 and we're so glad that you have joined us today. 01:15 You are part of our 3ABN family whether you're watching, 01:17 whether you're listening on the radio 01:19 we welcome you, 01:21 and we thank you for your love and your prayers 01:23 and your financial support of the ministry here of 3ABN. 01:27 Because of you and because of what you do, 01:30 this ministry can go around the world. 01:32 And so we thank you for that. 01:34 I'm excited about our program today, 01:37 we have in-house guest I would say all in-house 01:40 but we have a special new guest 01:42 that we want to introduce to you as well. 01:44 And we're talking about the topic of "Salvation". 01:47 You know I think one of the saddest scriptures 01:50 at least to me in the Bible is Jeremiah 8:20. 01:55 The Bible says, "The harvest is past, 01:57 the summer is ended, and we are not saved." 02:02 So we want to talk today 02:04 about how God wants to draw us to himself. 02:07 Remember, Peter tells us 02:09 God is not willing that any should perish 02:12 but that all should come to repentance. 02:14 So we're gonna talk about how to be saved, 02:16 how we can have assurance that we are safe, 02:20 how we can share that with others. 02:21 So I want to introduce our special guest at this time, 02:24 but you all aren't guests, 02:26 you are part of the 3ABN family. 02:27 Yes, we are. 02:28 Right, here is Mollie Steenson, you are vice president, 02:30 general manager of 3ABN 02:32 and it's a joy to have you here, Mollie. 02:33 Thank you. A joy to be here. 02:35 Amen, and next to you is our Pastor John Lomacang, 02:37 pastor of the Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventist church 02:40 and director of 3ABN, director of World Evangelism. 02:43 And we appreciate you and Angie very much 02:45 and glad you are here. 02:46 Thank you, Jill, a joy to be here today. 02:48 Amen. And sitting next to you is Pastor Tom Ferguson. 02:51 Now, Pastor Tom has joined us for the Sabbath school panel, 02:55 but those programs have not began to air yet 02:57 but maybe by the time 02:59 this Today program airs they will be airing. 03:01 But you are the pastor of the Marion district, 03:03 and what churches do you cover, Pastor Tom? 03:06 Well, there's six in all, Marion, Du Quoin, Carbondale, 03:10 Cairo, Metropolis, and Eldorado. 03:12 Wow, that's a full plate. 03:14 Yeah. Absolutely. 03:16 But it's a joy to have you here 03:17 and I know you are a student of the word as well, 03:18 and I'm excited about getting into our topic 03:21 but before we do that, we always like to go to music. 03:24 And we have with us Sandra Entermann 03:27 and Sanja Kitevski on the piano 03:29 and they're gonna do a song for us 03:30 "You are my all in all". 03:51 You are my strength when I am weak 03:55 You are the treasure that I seek 03:59 You are my all in all 04:07 Seeking You as a precious jewel 04:11 Lord, to give up I'd be a fool 04:14 You are my all in all 04:21 Jesus, Lamb of God 04:29 Worthy is Your name 04:36 Jesus, Lamb of God 04:44 Worthy is Your name 04:52 Taking my sin, my cross, my shame 04:56 Rising again I bless Your name 05:00 You are my all in all 05:08 When I fall down You pick me up 05:12 When I am dry You fill my cup 05:15 You are my all in all 05:22 Jesus, Lamb of God 05:30 Worthy is Your name 05:37 Jesus, Lamb of God 05:45 Worthy is Your name 05:53 You are my strength when I am weak 05:58 You are the treasure that I seek 06:01 You are my all in all 06:08 Seeking You as a precious jewel 06:12 Lord, to give up I'd be a fool 06:16 You are my all in all 06:23 Jesus, Lamb of God 06:30 Worthy is Your name 06:38 Jesus, Lamb of God 06:46 Worthy is Your name 06:53 Worthy is Your name 07:01 Worthy is Your name 07:28 Thank you so much, Sandra and Sanja. 07:32 What a blessing. I love that song. 07:35 And they just have a heart for Jesus. 07:37 If you are just joining us, 07:39 we're talking on the topic of salvation. 07:41 I want to encourage you to pick up your Bible, 07:44 grab a pad or paper and a pencil 07:46 so that you can take notes for yourself 07:48 and to share with someone else. 07:50 We have Mollie Steenson, Pastor John Lomacang, 07:52 and Pastor Tom Ferguson with us 07:54 and we just welcome each one of you. 07:56 So let's just jump right in. 07:59 As we talk about salvation, 08:00 we first have to talk about the need for it, 08:02 so let's go all the way back to the beginning. 08:04 What is sin? Okay. 08:06 Anyone want to jump in and attack? 08:07 Let's start with Mollie, I'll be kind to you today, 08:09 let you start. 08:10 Okay. Sin is the transgression of the law. 08:14 Now you expound on that. Okay. 08:18 Well, you never know 08:20 what sin is unless there is a reference point. 08:22 Good. 08:24 If you don't have a reference point, 08:25 you don't know really anything. 08:27 I like to think of the reference point of the law 08:30 of God as a mirror. 08:32 And mostly everybody watching 08:33 or listening to the program has a mirror. 08:35 If you don't buy one 08:37 and you'll understand what sin is. 08:38 I mean, I don't mean to be lighthearted about that 08:40 but unless you look at the mirror 08:41 you'd never know your condition. 08:43 Yes. 08:44 And the mirror is as James refers, 08:46 he calls it the, 08:47 if you look into that perfect law of liberty, 08:50 beholding is like a man beholding his face in a glass. 08:53 So when you compare your life 08:55 to the standard which is the mirror, 08:59 it's interesting it shows you your defects. 09:02 But the other thing about the mirror 09:04 is it cannot fix the defects. 09:07 Yes. 09:09 It shows you, Paul says, 09:11 "Until the law, I was alive but when the law revived, 09:14 when the law was seen, sin revived and I died." 09:17 When he bought a mirror, 09:18 when he looked into the perfect law of liberty, 09:20 he saw himself of who he is. 09:22 And until that time he thought he was living it up. 09:25 "I was alive once without the law." 09:28 So in a nutshell, 09:30 the transgression of the law is becoming aware of it 09:35 and intentionally 09:37 choosing not to live in harmony with it. 09:39 I was careful about the word intentionally 09:41 because there is sin, the stumbling aspect of it, 09:46 then there is the intentional sin 09:48 which eventually becomes inequity, 09:49 so I won't go any further on that 09:50 but I'll give Pastor Tom chance to expound on that. 09:53 I just want to think, 09:54 I want to mention too that it's about a person, 09:57 it's about the character of God. 09:59 We fall short of the glory or the character of God 10:03 and therefore there is sin. 10:05 And He is the standard, 10:07 His laws and inscription of His own character. 10:10 And when I think about being a sinner, 10:12 I think about someone that has a propensity 10:17 towards things that are filled with character flaws. 10:22 You mention the idea that 10:24 we must look into the perfect law of liberty 10:26 before we can be converted thereby. 10:28 But what I also think about 10:30 is that there are people that are in this world 10:32 that have been deceived. 10:35 They have no idea that they are a sinner, 10:36 they don't know what sin is. 10:38 As a matter of fact, a lot of people will say, 10:41 "Well, I'm a good person." 10:43 And what is their standard? Themselves. 10:46 Yeah, it's themselves, 10:47 it's maybe the people they are around, 10:48 it's the idea that they maybe keep the law 10:50 so that they can keep some semblance of peace. 10:54 But at the same time they don't see their need, 10:56 their own personal need. 10:58 And then there are others that maybe are caught up 11:00 and deceived by other religions or other pursuits in this world 11:03 that seem to fulfill the needs that they sense they have, 11:08 but in the end it will leave them empty. 11:11 It doesn't, somehow they fall short 11:13 of what they really are pursuing. 11:15 And there are even those that don't recognize their need 11:20 that can be in the church. 11:24 Attempting to maybe earn their way to heaven, 11:26 earn their own salvation by attempting to be like God 11:29 as they get glimpses of Him 11:30 but not fully understanding His call in their lives, 11:35 sometimes were even in a position of leadership, 11:38 and this can happen. 11:40 As a matter of fact it was a number of years ago 11:43 I heard a testimony 11:44 from someone, it was a public testimony, 11:46 they were actually a union president 11:49 and they said that they had gone through the seminary, 11:52 they had been a pastor, 11:53 they had been a conference president 11:55 before they were converted. 11:57 Wow, yes. 11:59 For they did not truly understand 12:01 their condition of heart 12:03 and, so I hope in this program 12:05 we have an opportunity to take a look at 12:08 what it is that actually causes us 12:12 to go through that conversion, to have that saving grace 12:16 that salvation experience for each one of us. 12:19 Well, I identify with this gentleman 12:23 you were talking about. 12:24 I was second grade 12:27 Sunday school teacher in a Baptist church, 12:29 I'd been in church most of my life. 12:32 I didn't smoke, drink, curse or run with wild men, 12:36 I tell people the only wild man I ever ran with was my husband. 12:40 I married him. 12:42 We love Pastor Hal. 12:45 He got converted. Praise the Lord. 12:48 I did the do's and I didn't do the don'ts. 12:51 Right. 12:53 And one Monday morning a friend of mine 12:56 that I worked with came into my office 12:58 and said, "Mollie, I got born again this week 13:01 and I kind of die 13:03 and you get saved every summer." 13:05 Because that's what they had us do, we have, 13:07 you know, you have the revivals every summer and she said, 13:10 "No, Mollie, you don't understand, 13:12 I made Jesus Christ the Lord of my life," 13:14 and the convicting power of God touched my heart, 13:17 and I was 28 years old, 13:19 I'd been in church my whole life. 13:22 I again did the do's if you'd asked me I wasn't. 13:26 I remember one time a pastor said 13:30 if you've made Jesus Christ the Lord of your life, 13:32 if you've been born again, 13:33 if you're saved, those are all synonymous terms, 13:37 then you've got a testimony, 13:39 you can take me to the time 13:41 and you can take me to the place 13:43 where God saved you with His amazing grace. 13:45 And I felt, oh, I could probably do that 13:47 but I couldn't. 13:49 Because I hadn't had a born again experience. 13:52 And so Diane and I went to the ladies lounge 13:56 at Wolverine Tube in Decatur, Alabama, 13:59 and I got on my knees 14:01 and I asked Jesus Christ 14:02 to be the Lord of my life, and my life changed, 14:06 and I have never been the same. 14:07 When you are born again, when you experience salvation, 14:12 when you my terminology 14:14 make Jesus Christ the Lord of you are life, 14:17 you change, you come out of darkness 14:19 and into light and you will never be the same. 14:22 Amen. Pastor John. I want to add something also. 14:25 Oh, pastor... No, Pastor John, yeah. 14:28 To understand why we are all, 14:30 why we have all fallen short in Romans 6:23 we have, 14:34 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 14:37 and in sharing and dealing with this topic 14:38 I asked someone the question or posed the question, 14:41 "Does that also apply to babies?" 14:43 At what point does a baby become a sinner 14:46 and somebody, you know... 14:48 It's a good question. 14:50 I got the dog whistle response, 14:52 you know, and the head tilted 14:54 whistle that only a dog can hear 14:55 and he tilts his head. 14:56 People said, wow, that's a very interesting question. 14:59 Does the baby become a sinner or is a baby a sin? 15:03 Well, David answer the question, 15:05 in sin my mother did conceived me. 15:07 Right. Yes. 15:09 See, I was brought forth in iniquity. 15:10 What he actually meant 15:12 when I studied into that he said, 15:13 "The conditions that I was brought into this world, 15:15 I was brought into a world of iniquity, 15:17 a world of sin." 15:18 He didn't say, "My mother was unmarried 15:20 to bring me forth in a sinful relationship." 15:21 He said, 15:23 "This was the condition that I was born into, 15:25 I was born into a sinful world, 15:27 I was born into a world 15:28 that is, that is laden with iniquity." 15:31 But the question that I had to continue to put forth 15:34 is how did we get there? 15:36 And you have to go back to Genesis 15:37 in the, in the entrance where Eve was deceived 15:40 but Adam, with full knowledge, 15:44 the Bible never said that Eve opened the door to sin. 15:48 "For by one man, Romans 5:12, 15:50 sin entered the world and death through sin 15:54 and thus death has spread to all men 15:56 because all have sinned." 15:58 Adam passed on to all of us, 16:01 since he was the progenitor of the human race, 16:04 as our father he gave us the DNA of sin. 16:07 1 Corinthians 15:22, "As in Adam all die." 16:09 That's right. 16:11 So right away 16:12 this is a very interesting point 16:14 because a lot of people think 16:15 that Jesus is coming to condemn sinners. 16:19 We are already condemned. 16:22 And that's why John 3:17, 16:23 "For God sent not His Son 16:24 into the world to condemn the world, 16:26 but that the world through Him might be saved." 16:28 And I think one of the distortions is, 16:29 and we're gonna talk about the mission of Jesus, 16:31 one of the great distortions is, 16:33 and I have it in my notes here, 16:34 I'm gonna make sure I make it clear, 16:36 that salvation is not the obliteration of the sinner. 16:41 Yes. 16:42 Salvation is the obliteration of the sin. 16:45 Salvation is also not the justification of sin, 16:48 it's the justification of the sinner. 16:51 I think people fear Jesus 16:53 because they think He's gonna obliterate sinners. 16:55 He wants to obliterate sin and save the sinner. 16:57 Amen. 16:59 And so having said that, sin is the condition 17:02 which in which every one of us is born 17:05 whether we have committed the first act or not, 17:09 it's the condition into which all humanity is born. 17:13 I just had a question as you were talking, 17:15 it made me think of this, 17:16 are we born with a sinful nature 17:18 or am I born sinning? 17:21 Does that make sense? 17:22 We're born with a sinful nature. 17:23 Propensity, yeah. Okay. 17:25 We have that lean right there. 17:26 I'll let somebody else come in 17:28 'cause I have another comment on this very point 17:29 but there are two other guests, 17:31 I don't want to take all the time. 17:34 I want just briefly on that one too, 17:37 a lot of people are concerned about 17:38 their children being baptized so they're not lost, 17:41 but what I think about too is that God does not hold us 17:45 accountable to the age of accountability. 17:47 And even though we have the propensity to sin 17:49 and that's why it's important to train them up 17:52 in the way they should go and direct them to Christ. 17:55 You know, I think that the level of self-deception 17:57 is so high, 17:59 it's actually we can be active in the church 18:01 and still be deceived. 18:03 As a matter of fact in Isaiah 5, 18:06 the prophet is listing six different woes 18:09 to the people of Israel. 18:10 He's actually acting as their spiritual leader 18:13 he says, "Woe for their greed, their self-indulgence, 18:16 their moral perversion, their delusions, 18:18 their grant of grander for self-indulgence 18:20 and the result of social abuses." 18:24 And it isn't until you get to chapter six that you read 18:27 and maybe we can turn there together. 18:30 Isaiah 6, 18:33 "That the prophet goes through an experience 18:36 that has is transformational." 18:41 And I know that many of our viewers 18:43 might be familiar with this text, 18:46 but I wanted to share it. 18:50 Begin with verse 1 it says 18:51 "In the year the King Uzziah died, 18:53 I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, 18:55 high and lifted up 18:56 and the train of his robe filled the temple. 18:58 And above it stood seraphim, each one had six wings, 19:01 with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, 19:04 and with two he flew." 19:06 Now these are creatures that are not, 19:08 they are sinless 19:10 and they're covering their faces 19:11 and their feet in the presence of God. 19:13 He's getting a glimpse into the throne room of God. 19:15 There's a few of those in scripture. 19:17 And one cried to the other and said holy, holy, holy 19:20 is the Lord of hosts, 19:22 the whole earth is full of His glory. 19:25 And when you think of the holy, holy, holy, 19:27 they are expressing 19:29 what they're getting a glimpse of 19:30 and it's an involuntary praise of who they see. 19:34 "The pulse of the door were shaking, at verse 4, 19:35 and the voice of him who cried out 19:37 and the house was filled with smoke 19:39 so I said woe is me for I am undone." 19:45 I think too often 19:46 we take it's a casual experience, 19:49 our journey with Christ is a casual experience, 19:51 it's we're quick to correct others, 19:53 we're quick to maybe take a leadership position, 19:55 we're quick to be on that throne. 19:58 I really think that we are self-deceived 20:01 in the sense that we don't see our sinfulness to the point 20:05 where we have had a strong glimpse of God 20:08 and therefore we say woe is me, for I am undone. 20:12 And too often there's too much pride 20:15 in us as Christians as a result, 20:18 because we don't see the sinfulness of sin 20:20 and the depravity of our condition. 20:24 And the only way that I can truly see my condition 20:28 and have any hope in this matter 20:30 is to seek, see Christ as He truly is. 20:34 Behold Him and when that happens, 20:37 I have a correct view of myself 20:40 and therefore I am humbled 20:43 and ready to receive what He has to offer. 20:46 Amen. Absolutely. 20:47 So, we see what is sin and we have to look to Jesus, 20:51 the Holy Spirit is the one that convicts us of sin 20:53 and we look to Jesus in order to realize that, 20:57 and then we look at our need for a savior. 20:59 And I know, Pastor John, 21:00 you were beginning to touch on that, 21:02 the need for our savior. 21:04 You know, the mission of Jesus 21:06 is so clearly outlined in the Bible. 21:08 And this is something that, 21:10 you know, I want to use two scriptures too 21:12 because John talks about it and Matthew talks about it. 21:15 Both in a different way, 21:16 yet sometimes we think they are synonymous. 21:19 Matthew 1:21, "Call his name Jesus, 21:22 for He will save His people from their sins." 21:25 But John says, "Behold the Lamb of God 21:27 who takes away the sin of the world." 21:31 Singular. 21:33 I always say you can't have fruit 21:35 if you don't have root. 21:37 Matthew 1:21 describes the fruit, 21:40 the sins of the world. 21:41 And everybody wants to be forgiven of their sins, 21:45 but if that's all that Jesus did, 21:47 He could have left, 21:48 He could've stayed in heaven and did that. 21:51 Why did He have to come down here? 21:53 John pointed out the specific reason 21:55 why Jesus had to come down here. 21:58 Heaven is a sinless place. 22:00 When Paul outlines the reason why Jesus came, he says, 22:03 He became sin for us. 22:08 You see, now the question is a very significant, 22:10 He didn't just come to forgive sins, 22:12 He became sin. 22:13 Now let me clarify that. 22:15 He didn't become a sinner. That's right. 22:16 He became the root of the issue. 22:19 He had to take the root to change the fruit. 22:22 Now here is the reason why I say that. 22:24 Jesus doesn't want to just forgive us of our sins. 22:27 The whole plan of salvation 22:29 is that we might become as John 3 says, 22:32 we will see Him as He is, for we will be like Him. 22:36 How am I going to be like someone 22:39 unless I have the same nature and the same character? 22:44 So in order for that to happen, 22:45 he had to get rid of one character 22:48 and begin the process of another one. 22:50 He had to take one of those characters, 22:52 the Adam nature. 22:54 1 Corinthians 15 makes that very, very clear. 22:56 "As we bore the man the image of the man of the dust, 22:59 we shall also bear the image of the man of the spirit 23:02 showing to the last Adam Christ the first Adam, 23:05 obviously, Adam in the Garden of Eden." 23:07 So Jesus didn't come to just forgive us. 23:09 Yes. 23:11 He came to get rid of the root issue 23:13 and that is sin. 23:14 So why do we need a savior? 23:15 Nobody, no one could have gotten rid of the sin 23:20 except the sin bearer who is the Lamb of God. 23:24 Amen. Amen. 23:25 Mollie, you look like you were gonna say something. 23:27 Well, I just flipped to Romans 8:29, 23:31 "For whom he for knew he also" I love this word predestined. 23:35 See, I have had some bad teaching on predestination. 23:39 And when I got the right teaching 23:41 that we are all predestined, 23:42 but what are we predestined for? 23:45 He also predestined 23:46 to be conformed to the image of His son. 23:49 Praise the Lord. 23:51 To be that conforming to His images 23:55 that's that metamorphosis to become like Him, 23:58 for we shall see Him as He is. 24:00 Amen. 24:01 And, you know, just to add to that, 24:02 I'm gonna pull back to Pastor Tom here, just to add to that, 24:04 you cannot become like Him unless the root is different. 24:06 That's true. 24:08 There's a law of sin and righteousness. 24:10 A bad tree cannot produce good fruit 24:12 and a good tree cannot produce bad fruit. 24:16 Now that's different from stumbling. 24:19 We talk about the whole walk of the Christian, 24:22 we're talking about justification right now. 24:23 We're not talking about sanctification 24:25 because in sanctification there is a stumble, 24:26 you know, that the Lord says a little children 24:28 I write to you that you sin not, 24:30 but if anyone sins He has an advocate with Father, 24:34 Jesus Christ the righteous. 24:35 And then John talks about a sin that doesn't lead to death 24:38 and a sin that does lead to death, 24:39 but our attitude is all sin leads to death. 24:42 Well, now let me ask you a question. 24:43 As a parent if you have a child, 24:46 Tom and Mollie has children, I don't have any children. 24:50 I don't want to put, Jill don't have any children. 24:52 No, we don't have children. That's right. 24:54 But if your child, when your child was born, 24:56 did your child stumble? 24:57 Oh, yeah. Okay. 24:59 Did you say, you know what, that is not my child, 25:01 go get your child, 25:02 that child keeps stumbling through the living room, 25:04 not gonna step down, 25:05 get up until you learn how to walk, 25:07 you're not going to be my child? 25:09 Do parents do that, Mollie? 25:10 Absolutely no. Okay, okay. 25:12 So when we become children, 25:15 just drinking the milk of the word, 25:18 we've got to grow in grace. 25:21 Hear me, we don't grow into grace, 25:24 we grow in grace. 25:26 A plant doesn't grow into the pot, 25:28 it grows in the pot. 25:30 A fish doesn't swim into the ocean, 25:32 it swims in the ocean. 25:34 When we are abiding in the grace of Christ... 25:35 Oh, that's good. 25:37 we are growing in there, we're swimming in there, 25:39 we often we stumble in there like the, 25:42 like the jar that still had holes in it 25:44 and it leaked in the potter's hand, 25:46 that's sanctification, 25:47 that's a different aspect altogether. 25:49 But just to get back to justification, 25:51 until we realize the mission of Jesus 25:53 all we will desire is salvation from our sins. 25:57 I don't want salvation from my sins only. 26:00 I want salvation from my sin, the root. 26:03 So, you're talking about 26:04 how can we get transformed out of the kingdom of darkness 26:07 and into the kingdom of God, the Son, justification. 26:09 That's justification. 26:11 Now, this as many as... Received him? 26:15 Received him to them gave he the power 26:18 to become that becoming is a process 26:20 and it's that sanctification process, 26:23 so when I can I want to tell you, 26:25 when you want to talk about sanctification, 26:27 I've got to tell you about Claire Redwine. 26:29 So you go ahead and talk about sanctification. 26:31 No, I will be glad if you tell us 26:32 about Claire Redwine now... 26:34 No one hear about it. 26:35 I want to go back for one moment to justification 26:38 just so everyone is clear at home. 26:40 If someone says, "Wait a minute, 26:42 now, I understand you mentioned scriptures, 26:44 I understand what you said 26:45 but do you mean it's just as simple 26:47 as coming to Jesus, 26:49 and saying I'm sorry." 26:51 1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, 26:53 He's faithful and just to forgive us 26:55 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 26:57 Does that mean at that moment 27:00 I'm justified before the Father 27:02 and I am in a saving relationship with Him? 27:05 In a nutshell, yes. Okay. 27:07 We're saved by grace through faith. 27:08 Say it again. 27:10 Lest anyone boast, we're saved by grace through faith alone, 27:13 lest anyone should boast. 27:14 Okay. That's right. 27:15 Sola Fide, by faith alone. Okay. 27:17 Not our works. Lest anyone should boast. 27:19 Not our works. 27:20 Okay, so justification is that simple process 27:23 but it doesn't stop there and that's where... 27:24 Go ahead, pastor, 27:26 that's what we're getting to, sanctification. 27:27 And the transaction, 27:29 while it's very simple in the faith aspect of it, 27:31 it's extremely divine in the spiritual aspect of it. 27:36 Because, and you mentioned, to them 27:37 He gave power to become. 27:39 That becoming process... 27:40 Now becoming sons and daughters of God, 27:44 and I want to say this, 27:45 I want to reverse that a little bit. 27:47 It's not a process, 27:48 we are instantly sons and daughters of God accept, 27:51 but becoming more like Him is the process. 27:54 That sanctification. 27:55 It has not yet been revealed what you shall be, 27:57 but beloved now are we children of God. 28:00 1 John 3:2 we are children of God now 28:02 but you don't, you're not behaving 28:03 just like your father that will come in the process. 28:06 It has not yet been revealed what you shall be, 28:09 but we do know that when He is revealed, 28:11 we will be like Him that's the completion of it. 28:13 Amen. Okay. 28:14 So, we're getting there, praise God. 28:16 So, thank you. Amen. That's wonderful. 28:17 So, Claire Redwine and sanctification process. 28:20 All right, Claire Redwine 28:22 was watching Christian television. 28:25 And she would come home, she lived in Las Vegas, 28:29 she was a bartender, 28:31 and she smoked, and she drank wine, 28:34 and she lived with a man, 28:36 and every night she would come home 28:38 and she would watch Christian television. 28:41 And you know what? 28:43 The message of the cross, 28:45 the saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ 28:48 penetrated her heart 28:49 and there one night in front of that television, 28:52 she asked Jesus Christ to be the Lord of her life, 28:55 she was born again. 28:57 Amen. She was saved. 28:58 She got up the next morning. 29:00 Justification? And she was justified. 29:03 And she went to work. Where did she go to work? 29:06 At the bar because she was a barkeep 29:08 and she came home the next night 29:11 poured a glass of wine, lit her cigarette, 29:13 and was watching Christian television. 29:15 And somebody preached a sermon on alcohol. 29:19 Okay. 29:21 "I can't drink this alcohol anymore." 29:23 Now remember, she's living with a man 29:25 so she put the alcohol down, 29:27 the next night 29:28 and it didn't happen just like this 29:30 but here's the crux of the story. 29:33 She heard a sermon on fornication 29:37 and she realized, 29:38 "I can't live with this man out of wedlock", 29:40 so she kicked him out 29:42 and one thing led to another that led to another 29:45 that led to another. 29:46 Now, here's the beauty of this. 29:49 She's in a process, the sanctification process. 29:53 She was just as born again. 29:55 Had she died the night 29:58 after she made Jesus Christ the Lord of her life, 30:00 had she died at that point, 30:03 would she have gone to sleep in Jesus 30:05 although she had a glass of wine in one hand, 30:08 a cigarette in the other, 30:09 and she was living with a man, 30:11 see, you are only required to walk in the light 30:14 that God is shining on you. 30:16 That's right. 30:17 And as God shines more light on you, again, 30:20 that's that sanctification process. 30:22 But here is another truth. 30:24 You are required to walk in the light 30:27 that God is shining on you. 30:29 I am not required to walk in the light 30:31 shining on Pastor Lomacang, I praise God for that. 30:35 But, boy, if God shines the light on me, 30:37 then I am required to walk in that light 30:39 and with Clara's walk, she continued to walk, 30:44 so what I wanted to do was to let you know 30:46 that there is absolutely nothing you've done 30:49 that God can't forgive you for, 30:51 doesn't matter your circumstance or your situation 30:54 or where you are in that sanctification process, 30:57 don't give up, 30:58 continue to look to Jesus and He will lead you 31:00 by the power of His Holy Spirit. 31:02 Amen. 31:04 Hebrew 7:25 says 31:05 "Therefore He is able to save to the uttermost 31:07 those who come to God through Him 31:10 since He always lives to make intercession for them." 31:13 So he will save to the uttermost. 31:15 You know, I also think about 2 Corinthians 3:18 31:18 when you are talking about the transformational 31:21 aspect of your of the story. 31:24 "Beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord 31:27 we are being transformed into the same image 31:30 from glory to glory." 31:31 Yes. 31:33 So as he continually reveals 31:34 His will for our lives and like you say 31:36 we're all in a different journey. 31:39 He will, as we behold Him, He will bring to our attention 31:43 things that we need to surrender. 31:45 And if we continue to stay humble before God, 31:48 He will refine us and continue to do so. 31:51 The one who has began that good work in us 31:53 is faithful to complete it, 31:55 He will never give up on us, and oftentimes we fail Him 31:59 but He will never fail us. 32:00 So always be the faithful spouse 32:03 and bringing us to the place that He has in mind for us. 32:06 And as Pastor John has mentioned several times 32:09 and that is to, 32:10 we will see Him as He is, we will be like Him. 32:13 That's right. 32:14 He wants to, He's into restoring us 32:16 into the image of God 32:18 that which was lost at the fall 32:20 He wants to restore back into us. 32:23 And letting Him have control of my life is the battle, 32:27 the battle is who is going to be 32:28 on the throne of my heart today. 32:30 Absolutely. 32:31 And I have to say this again 32:34 because the solution for me is to behold Him 32:36 because when that happens I realize who He is 32:39 and I see my true condition and my need of him, 32:42 and staying in that surrendered state 32:44 is when He's able to refine me 32:46 on a daily basis as a Christian. 32:48 Let me tell you why the battle is a difficult one. 32:51 You know, Genesis 3:16, 32:52 go there and look at that very quickly. 32:54 What happened when Adam fell into sin, 32:57 the Lord gave a message to Eve 32:59 which reflects the condition of His people. 33:02 Hosea talks about it. I'm getting to Genesis 3:16. 33:06 This is a powerful analogy, 33:09 it's not just in reference to the fact 33:11 that from now on Eve 33:15 is gonna have difficulty in childbirth 33:17 or she is gonna have pain 33:19 when children are being born 33:20 and mothers all talk about that. 33:21 They said, "Oh, the pain of having this child, 33:23 but all the joy 33:24 when the whole process is done." 33:26 But the Lord gave for us a spiritual message 33:28 here in Genesis 3:16, 33:33 and remember, if you look at the word, 33:35 if you look at the word "woman" in prophecy, 33:38 the "woman" represents church. 33:40 Yes. Okay. 33:41 And then you have, you have, but now I want to say, 33:46 you have two husbands in the Bible. 33:49 Two husbands? Two husbands. 33:51 Oh, yes, you do. 33:52 If you didn't have two husbands, 33:54 Romans 7 wouldn't be there. 33:56 I'm gonna go to Romans 7 right after this. 33:58 Jesus is the husband man, right? 34:00 But the Bible says the woman is bound to the law 34:02 by her husband as long as he lives, 34:03 but if he dies 34:05 she's free to marry another man. 34:07 But if she marries another man while he's alive, 34:09 she is an adulterous 34:11 because she has married another man 34:12 while he's still alive. 34:14 But if he dies, 34:15 she's free to marry another man. 34:16 You're talking about the old man coming up. 34:18 Right, that husband, that nature. 34:20 That old sinful nature. 34:22 But now look at why it's difficult 34:23 to live a righteous life without Christ in your life. 34:26 Look at Genesis 3:16 and this is, 34:29 this has so many spiritual implications here 34:31 because you could take the Hosea, Hosea 34:33 because all the children of Goma, 34:36 one after the other, didn't represent God at all. 34:38 Now, Lo-Ruhamah, Lo-Ammi, no mercy in this house, 34:42 Lo-Ruhamah no mercy, Lo-Ammi, not my child, 34:45 but it says, 34:47 "I will greatly multiply 34:48 your sorrow and your conception. 34:51 In pain, you shall bring forth children." 34:54 When we see the children of sin, 34:55 it's a painful thing. 34:57 When we see what the seed of sin 34:58 has produced in us, 35:00 the sin is a seed that's planted. 35:02 When the sin produces children in us, 35:04 we are, that brings great sorrow 35:07 and we don't think about the sorrow 35:09 that it brings until we see the children, 35:11 the children of hate, 35:13 the children of lost, the children of thievery, 35:16 the children of lying, 35:18 these are children that the fruit... 35:20 You reap what you sow. 35:22 Right, whatever seed is there is gonna produce the fruit, 35:25 but this is the part that's amazing. 35:27 He says, "Your desire shall be for your husband 35:30 and he shall rule over you." 35:33 That's a powerful word "Desire". 35:35 Desire is years ago, 35:39 you know, children see things, 35:40 well, if you want to see the power of desire 35:42 take your child... go to go to Toys 35:44 "R" Us at Christmas time, 35:46 when parents make the mistake of taking their children 35:48 with them to Toys "R" Us. 35:49 That's desire on steroids. 35:51 Crying and screaming, and grabbing, no, they want it. 35:55 That's why the Lord allows us to be born as children. 35:57 Desire is a powerful thing. 35:59 Now desire is the precursor to will. 36:03 When you desire something, and you stare, 36:05 and you think of it long enough, 36:07 it becomes covetousness. 36:09 Then you add, "now I got to have it" 36:11 and the wrong action of the will takes place. 36:15 Jesus in His human nature, He said, 36:20 "Not my will but thine be done." 36:23 Now the difference between Jesus and us 36:25 is Jesus didn't have simple desire. 36:28 Because he said the prince of this world has come, 36:29 he has nothing in me, 36:31 but we have that nature of Adam in us, 36:32 that sinful nature, that when we leaned towards it, 36:36 it now brought to life in us desire. 36:38 But now let's go to James 36:40 'cause I want to show you how powerful desire is. 36:42 See, desire is the ruling, 36:44 desire is what rules in us 36:47 to lead us down the wrong path. 36:48 And here you will discover, as you read here in Genesis, 36:51 he didn't say, "Oh, your desire shall be for your husband 36:54 and you'll let him rule over you." 36:56 He shall rule. Will. 36:58 You have no choice. 36:59 You see, the hopelessness of the sinner is, 37:02 I say this to my wife and "Honey, I love you 37:04 but we now have this funny story 37:08 not that has to do with love or not love," 37:10 but she has a family members and she say to them, 37:12 "Why don't you just do right, 37:14 you're old enough, you should know better. 37:17 How old are you? Why don't you just do right?" 37:19 And I say "Honey, honey, honey, he's not even a Christian, 37:23 how are you going to get good fruit from a bad tree?" 37:26 "But he's old enough." 37:27 "Honey, that's the... We cannot produce it. 37:31 Say it again. We cannot produce it. 37:33 No matter how old you are, 37:34 a bad tree could be bad for 38 years 37:37 and is not gonna be good 37:39 when it comes to producing fruit. 37:40 Until it changes its root system. 37:43 That's the simple process of it. 37:45 Now look at James, James outlines it so amazingly. 37:50 Here is, look at James 1. James 1. 37:55 I mean, James uses there 37:56 and I'm using the New King James version 37:58 so I know the word desire is there. 38:00 Verse 13, "Let no one say when he is tempted, 38:03 I am tempted by God, 38:05 for God cannot be tempted by evil 38:07 nor does He himself tempt anyone 38:10 but each one is tempted 38:11 when he is drawn away 38:13 by his own desires and enticed." 38:17 Verse 15... King James says lusts. 38:19 Same thing, interchangeable word 38:21 lust and desires it's that... 38:24 It's that call that the alcoholic talks about, 38:26 and the drug user talks about. 38:28 They can't control it. 38:29 Then when desire has conceived or lust has conceived, 38:33 it gives birth. 38:34 See, desire is not sin. That's right. 38:37 But it's saying to you, go ahead and sin. 38:39 When you yield, it gives birth to sin, 38:42 and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death. 38:47 These are our condition. 38:48 That's the condition of humanity. 38:49 So we are already in that condition. 38:51 Jesus didn't come to kill us, 38:53 He came to change our condition. 38:55 He came to say, you're already in sin, 38:58 I'm not sending My Son to condemn you, 39:01 but My Son might well come to save you, 39:02 not to condemn 39:04 but that the world through Him might be saved. 39:05 So, Mollie, how do we put to death the old man, 39:08 the nature that, that desire that rises up within us? 39:14 You can't, you absolutely cannot on your own. 39:16 Okay. You can't. 39:17 But Pastor Ferguson alluded to this earlier 39:21 is that submitting, submitting to the will of God 39:24 and asking the Father 39:26 by the power of His Spirit to change your heart. 39:30 Studying God's word, praying, staying in His presence, 39:33 and all of that sounds like so many do's 39:36 and so if you're struggling already, 39:39 you're saying, "I just can't do all of that." 39:42 So our responsibility is to simplify it 39:48 because I mean Jesus made the gospel so simple. 39:53 Come on to Me, all you that labor 39:54 and are heavy-laden, I will give you rest. 39:57 He never made it difficult. 39:59 So come on, just come on to Jesus and ask Him help, 40:03 that's a prayer that God will always answer 40:07 and He'll answer it quickly if you just say, "Help, 40:10 I can't do this on my own. 40:12 I have to have help." 40:14 And He'll help you. Pastor Tom? 40:16 I was just saying about the root source 40:17 that you referred to earlier. 40:19 I'd like to turn to that, let's go to John 15, 40:22 another place that many are familiar with. 40:24 But, you know, I think 40:25 we oftentimes have to remind ourselves 40:27 it's not that complicated, 40:28 it's just that because we're sinners, 40:30 it is counterintuitive, it's counter-experience for us, 40:35 but this is what He's asking of us in John 15. 40:37 Go ahead. 40:39 And I think too, sorry to break in there, 40:40 I think too it goes against our natural desire, 40:42 so that's why it's not only counterintuitive, 40:45 it goes against what I carnally want 40:47 or what I naturally desire. 40:49 So it's making that choice, "God, I'm choosing your way 40:52 and I'm choosing to put to death the old nature." 40:54 That's right. That's right. 40:56 And verse 1 in John 15 says, "I am the true vine 40:59 and my father is the vinedresser, 41:01 every branch in me that does not bear fruit 41:03 he takes away and every branch that bears fruit 41:06 he prunes that it may bear more fruit." 41:08 When you and I are going to the sanctifying process, 41:10 there is a pruning process 41:11 that does take place and oftentimes 41:14 when we're prone it does not feel good. 41:16 No. 41:17 It's one of those things that God knows in His wisdom 41:20 and in His love that we need 41:21 and therefore we're being pruned. 41:23 As a matter of fact, I got a recent experience. 41:27 There is a gentleman 41:29 who lost his sister three months ago. 41:32 He's... and sorry, two months ago 41:34 his brother a month ago, 41:36 and then three days, four days ago 41:37 now a second brother, 41:39 and they're on their way to the funeral on Thursday. 41:41 Is that four deaths or five? 41:43 It's a total of three siblings in three months. 41:47 And, you know, sometimes we go through things in life 41:49 and we say, "Lord, why, why are you allowing this?" 41:52 Nothing happens to us 41:53 that hasn't gone through Him first 41:54 but also the very fact 41:56 that there's a pruning process that goes on in life. 41:59 And He is in control. 42:02 Look at verse 4 it says "Abide in me and I in you 42:05 as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself 42:07 unless it abides in the vine, 42:09 neither can you unless you abide in me." 42:13 My work is to abide in Christ. 42:17 He is the vine, I am the branches, 42:19 and that's what it says in the next verse. 42:21 "He who abides in me and I in him bears much fruit 42:24 for without me you can do," how much? 42:26 "Nothing." 42:27 And we forget that all the time. 42:29 We keep thinking, okay, I'm abiding in Him, 42:31 we experience the blessing, 42:33 and then we forget that we need to continue to abide in Him, 42:36 because it says here in the next verse, 42:37 "If we do not continue to abide in Him, 42:40 we are cast out as a branch and we are withered, 42:43 they gather them and throw them into the fire 42:45 and they are burned." 42:46 You know, it's interesting because a lot of people say, 42:49 "You believe you can lose your salvation?" 42:50 Well, I believe we can choose our salvation 42:53 in the way Adam and Eve did. 42:54 God gave us that freedom and we can continue to have it. 42:57 And how do we choose it away? By not abiding in Christ. 43:01 And look at verse, 43:02 there's a quote here from Desire of Ages, 43:04 page 676, on verses 4 and 5, I want to share. 43:07 "Abiding in Christ 43:09 means a constant receiving of His spirit. 43:14 A life of unreserved surrender to His service, 43:17 the channel of communication must be open continually 43:20 between man and his God 43:22 as the vine branch constantly draws up 43:24 the sap from the living vine, 43:25 so we are to cling to Jesus and receive from Him by faith 43:29 the strength and perfection of His own character." 43:33 We are actually receiving 43:35 of His character by remaining in the vine. 43:39 And that is a process that there's a lot of pruning 43:41 that goes, goes in there. 43:43 Because we have cultivated tendencies, 43:45 we have inherited tendencies 43:47 that He wants to refine out of us 43:51 by the infusion of through His spirit 43:54 to change us into His own character, 43:56 His own likeness. 43:57 Amen. Pastor John. 43:59 Adding to the, how do you get to, 44:01 how do you become a child of God, 44:04 how do you enter that relationship. 44:06 There's only one way death. 44:08 Mollie made this point very, very early on. 44:11 There's only one way to become a child of God, 44:13 you know, Galatians 2:20, 44:15 "I have been crucified with Christ, 44:19 nevertheless I live yet not I 44:22 but Christ liveth in me 44:24 and the life I now live in the flesh." 44:26 What flesh? 44:27 The only thing left 44:29 after the nature is dead is the flesh. 44:33 See, this is the memory bank, this is the hard drive, 44:36 this is the hard drive of all the things 44:37 that I've done and I think that each one of us could stay. 44:40 If we spent a day with ourselves in a mountain 44:43 far away from any city, any populated area, 44:46 we will remember all the things we did. 44:47 Oh, yeah. 44:48 You don't have to get away from sin. 44:50 Sin as Paul said it resides in us. 44:53 That sin flesh is always there. 44:55 It's that constant battle, 44:57 that's why dying daily is important. 44:58 But the only way to get into that relationship is to die, 45:02 you've got to die, 45:04 that nature has to be put to death 45:05 for the fruit now to be born unto Christ 45:08 to show that He is in fact the Lord of our lives. 45:11 But the assurance is what people often don't have. 45:14 The assurance of people that think, well, 45:16 you know, there's two categories. 45:18 "I'm not good enough to be saved. 45:20 And I am saved and sanctified 45:21 and filled with the Holy Ghost and I can't be lost." 45:23 Yes. 45:24 But believe, you know, 45:26 that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, 45:28 but have everlasting life. 45:30 And 1 John 5:11-13 brings that into the context. 45:33 1 John 5:11-13 brings in the assurance 45:36 and I wish I had like another hour 45:38 just probably to go. 45:39 Well, it's a good topic. 45:41 Because there's so much more 45:42 that has to go along with the topic of salvation, 45:44 but here is one of assurance. 45:45 This is the beautiful thing about assurance. 45:47 1 John five? 1 John 5:11-13. 45:51 Once again showing that salvation is a gift, 45:54 "And this is the testimony 45:56 that God has given us eternal life, 46:00 and this life is in His Son. 46:03 He who has the Son has life." 46:05 These are definitive articles, 46:07 not he who has a son will eventually have life, 46:10 he who has the Son has life, 46:12 he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 46:16 "These things I have written to you 46:19 who believe in the name of the Son of God 46:21 that you may," what's the next word? 46:24 "That you may know that you have eternal life 46:28 and that you may continue 46:30 to believe in the name of the Son of God." 46:33 When Pastor Tom talked about that, 46:34 you could think yourself 46:36 how to choose yourself away from salvation. 46:39 Salvation is not a conveyor belt. 46:41 Nobody can snatch you out of the Lord's hand, 46:43 He said, didn't He say that John 10, 46:45 He said, "But, Father, whom you've given to me, 46:47 nobody could snatch them out of my hand 46:50 but I could choose to walk out of his hand." 46:52 Yes, yes. 46:53 Because many had turned away and walked with him no more, 46:56 demons has forsaken him having loved this present age. 46:59 You know, instead of one of the sons of Jacob, 47:03 I think he's joined into his idols... 47:06 Let him alone. What's his name again? 47:08 No, I was just gonna say let him alone, leave him alone. 47:09 Yeah, let him alone, leave him alone. 47:11 There are some people that walk away from that relationship. 47:14 It's better that they have not known the way of righteous 47:16 than have known it turn away from the holy commandment. 47:19 So we can walk away 47:20 but nobody can snatch us out of His hand. 47:22 If we continue to believe 47:23 and remain in that the work he began, 47:26 as Pastor Tom said, 47:27 and the Bible says in Philippians 1:6, 47:29 the work He began will be finished 47:32 and we will see the finished product. 47:33 So I just want to say 47:34 to the viewers and listeners of the program, 47:36 there is no need to fear 47:38 that there's something you must do, 47:40 you simply have to submit 47:42 yourself to Christ moment-by-moment. 47:43 I would say day-by-day, but what is that? 47:45 Moment-by-moment. Moment-by-moment. 47:47 Every time the enemy knocks, 47:49 "Jesus, would you go answer the door?" 47:51 'Cause I know what I'll choose if I answer the door. 47:53 And I've learned that, I mean, 47:55 you made a very good illustration 47:56 about a conference president, 47:58 I remember my ministerial director many years ago 47:59 at a pastors' meeting, 48:01 he was approaching retirement and he said, 48:04 "I was converted seven years ago." 48:06 Wow. 48:08 You could be so knowledgeable 48:10 and be so lost without knowing what salvation really is. 48:14 And there is so much more, 48:15 this has to be in second part and third part 48:16 I know on this topic but, Mollie? 48:18 Mollie, you look like you had something. 48:20 Now, well, you hit on 1 Corinthians 15:31, 48:25 the Apostle Paul, 48:26 "I affirm by boasting in you 48:28 which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord." 48:30 And what does he say that he does? 48:32 I die daily. He says, "I die daily." 48:34 Well, we've talked about justification 48:36 coming out of darkness and into light, 48:38 being born again, making Jesus the Lord of your life, 48:41 then that sanctification process 48:43 that being conformed 48:46 to the image of the Lord Jesus Christ, 48:48 taking on His attributes and His character. 48:50 We can only do that through His word 48:54 and spending time in His presence. 48:58 In Luke 9:22, I want to look at a couple of scriptures 49:02 we're going to get verses 22 and 23, 49:05 and Jesus had just fed the 5,000 49:09 and Peter had just, he asked, 49:12 you know, who do men say that I am? 49:13 Didn't I told him. 49:15 And then they say, yeah, but who do you say that I am. 49:17 And what did Peter tell him? 49:19 Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 49:23 And so now then in verse 22, the Son of Man, 49:27 this is what Jesus is telling His disciples 49:30 "The Son of Man must suffer many things 49:33 and be rejected by the elders 49:35 and the chief priest and scribes, and he tells them, 49:38 and be killed and be raised the third day." 49:41 Verse 23 "Then he said to them all, 49:44 if anyone desires to come after me, 49:47 do you desire to come after the Lord Jesus Christ, 49:50 let him deny himself." 49:52 See, that's what we've been talking about 49:54 the difficult part, that denying of ourselves. 49:58 He goes on to say, 49:59 "And take up His cross daily and follow me." 50:03 And you know what taking up your cross daily means? 50:06 Taking the message of the cross is the power of God, 50:10 the scripture gives us, tells us that. 50:13 And the message of the cross is a message of death, 50:15 that's where the Lord Jesus Christ died, 50:18 but it's also a place of salvation 50:22 and total victory over the power of the enemy. 50:25 So you take up your cross daily, die to self, 50:29 and you're going to find 50:30 that you will have total confidence 50:33 in the power of God, 50:35 the saving power of the Lord Jesus Christ, 50:37 and you can have assurance of your salvation. 50:41 Amen. 50:42 Yes, I truly surrender all that's the only way. 50:45 In Philippians 2:13, we can't forget that, it says, 50:48 "For it is God who works in you 50:49 both to will and to do His good pleasure. 50:53 He has a plan for your life 50:54 and it is to live out his life through us." 50:57 You know, I want to go to one other text finally here, 51:01 it's John 5, 51:03 and what I find about this verse 51:05 when I read the verse 51:07 and then I read a quote out of Desire of Ages, 51:10 it goes with it. 51:11 It just really got my attention. 51:14 It says, you know, Jesus is our example in all things 51:16 'cause I cannot of myself do nothing 51:18 as I hear I judge that my judgment is righteous 51:20 because I do not seek my own will 51:22 but the will of the Father who sent me. 51:25 And then the note on Desire of Ages, 208, it says, 51:29 "So early was Christ emptied of self 51:32 that he made no plans for himself." 51:35 I tell you what? As a type A, that's kind of rough. 51:38 "He accepted God's plans for him 51:40 and day-by-day the Father unfolded His plans 51:43 so should we depend on God that our lives may be 51:46 this simple outworking of His will." 51:49 Amen. Amen. 51:50 Wow. That's the calling. Amen. 51:52 That is the calling. Thank you so much. 51:54 We have to go to our newsbreak now 51:56 and we'll come back with the closing thought 51:58 from each one of you in a moment. 52:00 But we hope and pray that as we're talking 52:03 or maybe when the program is done, 52:04 you'll get down on your knees, 52:06 if you have not yet 52:07 made Jesus Christ the Lord of your life, 52:09 and you just accept Him in. 52:11 Jesus, I know I'm a sinner, I accept You as my Savior, 52:14 and then day-by-day that process of dependence, 52:18 that process of surrender, 52:20 that process of dying to self 52:23 and letting Jesus live in and through you, 52:26 letting Him perfect that process in you, 52:29 and your life will never be the same. 52:31 You can have assurance of salvation. |
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