I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you so much
for joining us today.
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We appreciate you joined us
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We have a lot of people
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so thank you for
joining us for your faithfulness
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to the ministry of 3ABN.
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Some of you may be
have just tuned in,
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found out about 3ABN recently.
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Thank you for joining with us.
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Some of you have supported
this ministry for years,
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may be since the very beginning.
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We know we really appreciate
each one of you long timers,
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newbies that are supporting
the ministry through prayer,
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which is vital to
the ministry of 3ABN,
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but also those of you
that feel impressed to support
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this ministry
financially, thank you.
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You know it's neat,
because it's a team effort,
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it's not only those at 3ABN
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but it's you at home
and the Lord Jesus Christ
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that makes the ministry of 3ABN
reach souls around the world,
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And it's a blessing
to be joining with you.
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I want to just say
this in the very beginning
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because today's
program is a very heavy topic.
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It has to do with
human trafficking,
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more precisely sex trafficking,
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and so we just want
to advise you parents
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or if you have
young people in the home
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that you're not quite sure
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if they should listen to
this program, we want to...
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yeah, basically, use
your parental discernment
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as to whether they
should view this program or not.
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So we just want to put
this little disclaimer in here,
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really a lot of, not a
lot of details may be given
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but sometimes it
could be a bit disturbing,
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but really it's about
what God is doing right now
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in this terrible
industry and so anyway,
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that's what our topic is today.
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That's right.
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We are so glad that
you have joined us today
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and as Greg
mentioned it is a heavy topic,
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but it's a needed topic,
because human trafficking,
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sex trafficking takes
place all around the world.
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And our special guest
today are two young men,
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we can say that,
they're probably our age.
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Two young men who
have dedicated their lives
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to bringing help
and hope and healing.
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It's a ministry of intercession.
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The name of the
ministry is Crying at the Gates
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and the Ministry of Intercession
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for those victims
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and reaching out
for those victims
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in behalf of them who
are being sex trafficked.
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Before I introduce them,
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I just want to
read a Bible verse here.
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They have many Bible verses
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and they'll be sharing
several of them on the program,
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but this one is Isaiah 59:16,
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"He saw that there was no man,
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and wondered that
there was no intercessor,
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therefore his own arm
brought salvation for him
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and his own righteousness,
it sustained him."
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We want to introduce
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our special guests at this time,
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we have Levi Longoria.
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You got it. Wonderful.
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And where you're from
Levi? I'm from Michigan.
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But right now, I
live in Nashville,
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around Nashville.
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Okay. Nashville, Tennessee.
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Yes. We're glad
to have you here.
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It's a blessing to
have. It's good to be here.
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It's not too far from
3ABN, Nashville to 3ABN
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is about three and a half hour,
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depending on
what part of Nashville
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and I drive
through Nashville sometimes
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and where the traffic
can be horrendous sometimes.
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Yes, I know.
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But we're glad
you're here. Thank you.
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And sitting next to
you is Alex Niculaescu.
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You got it. Wow, sweetie.
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I practiced that and
I still slaughtered it,
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so I apologize.
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No, no, you got
it, you got it right.
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You good, you good. I
had trouble saying it.
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So tell us where
you're from, Alex?
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I'm from Atlanta and our traffic
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is worse than Nashville.
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Yeah. So, yeah.
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That's true, we actually
were in Atlanta not long ago
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and, yeah, it has its challenges
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for sure with traffic,
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but thank you for coming here,
we really appreciate again,
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we'll get more
into your ministry
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but what God is
doing through you all,
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it's, it's a powerful
ministry so I hate to say
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but we're looking
forward, I would say, you know,
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to the topic it
needs to be discussed
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because we can always
bury our heads in the sand
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so they say, you
know, so to speak
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and, but we
don't want to do that,
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we need to bring this
I think to the forefront,
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but also how God is, man,
working, isn't it amazing?
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Amen.
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Through these young men
and others to rescue people
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and intercession you
talked about earlier.
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It's really a spiritual warfare
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and it's a battle
that we're involved
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in the great controversy
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and we're going to hear
stories during this program,
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actual stories of people
who have been involved in this.
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We're going to hear stories
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of this great controversy battle
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and the warfare, so
I'm excited about that,
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but first we'll go to our music.
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We have Stephanie
Dawn, we always love it
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when she can come in
share the music with us.
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Dan Thorton will be on the piano
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and the song they will be
ministering to us is titled,
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"Grace".
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My heart is so proud
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My mind is so unfocused
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I see the things
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You do through me
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As great things I have done
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And now You gently break me
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Then lovingly You take me
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And hold me as my father
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And mold me as my maker
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I ask you: "How many
times will you pick me up
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When I keep on letting you down?
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And each time I will
fall short of Your glory
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How far will
forgiveness abound?"
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Then You answer:
"My child, I love you
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And as long as
you're seeking My face
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You'll walk in the power
of My daily sufficient grace."
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At times I may grow weak
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And feel a bit discouraged
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Knowing that someone, somewhere
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Could do a better job
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For who am I to serve You?
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I know I don't deserve You
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But that's the part
that burns in my heart
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And keeps me hanging on
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I ask you: "How many
times will you pick me up
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When I keep on letting you down?
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And each time I will
fall short of Your glory
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How far will
forgiveness abound?"
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And You answer:
"My child, I love you
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And as long as
you're seeking My face
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You'll walk in the power
of My daily sufficient grace."
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You are so patient with me, Lord
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As I walk with You I'm learning
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What Your grace really means
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The price that I could never pay
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Was paid at Calvary
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So, instead of
trying to repay You
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I'm learning to simply obey You
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By giving up my life to you
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For all that You've given to me
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I ask you: "How many
times will you pick me up
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When I keep on letting you down?
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And each time I will
fall short of Your glory
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How far will
forgiveness abound?"
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Then You answer:
"My child, I love you
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And as long as
you're seeking My face
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You'll walk in the power
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Of My daily sufficient grace."
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Wow, amen. Thank
you so much, Stephanie.
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Grace, what a powerful
song, you know, and it's neat,
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isn't it that all of
us can be an instrument
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that God can use
to further His kingdom
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like we mentioned
earlier to push Satan back,
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and that we can be a vessel
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that God can flow
through us to other.
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Again, if you're just
now joining us today's topic
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is a heavy one,
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it is in
involving human trafficking,
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sex trafficking, and so
again we mentioned earlier,
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if you have young
children in the home,
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you may want to involve them
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in some other little
project or something else,
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but again who do
we have with us today.
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We have Levi
Longoria and Alex Niculaescu.
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I got it this
time. Praise the Lord.
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And let's start with you Alex,
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since you were the one
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who the Lord
first put the burden
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on your heart with this,
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so take us back to when
maybe you first became involved
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in sex trafficking
and human trafficking.
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Countering. Thank you.
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I sometimes say the
same thing is, yeah,
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I've been involved
in human trafficking...
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No, I apologize.
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Counter
trafficking, yeah. Thank you.
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I clarify myself all
the time because people,
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I make that mistake.
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'Cause this is a
serious topic. It is.
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This is heavy duty.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And a lot of times we would like
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to just kind of
pretend it doesn't exist
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when it really
does in a big way.
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It does exist and I think
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if we were to
truly understand it,
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we'd realize that it touches
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if not every aspect
of our life significantly
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more aspects of our lives
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than we'd like to
give it credit for.
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I mean since the
beginning we've known
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that Satan has
wanted to enslave humanity,
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and we kind of glaze over that.
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And in reality we
don't really realize
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how he's
practically worked that out
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and that when Christ says,
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that He desires to set us free
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it's, it's also those
that are physically bond.
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Yes.
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I kind of got
introduced to human trafficking
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when I was in
South Sudan in 2009,
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and I was working
with some friends of mine,
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we were there about
three or four of us,
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who were building a house
for a pastor in South Sudan
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that was living in a shack.
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He was taking care of a school
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that was built
by some missionary
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some years back
of about 600 kids,
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it's in the middle
of nowhere South Sudan
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near the border with the Congo.
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And so we were
there, and we were building
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and there were the kids
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that would always
play around in the yard
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and I noticed that
there was this young girl
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and she was eight years old,
and she always acted very odd
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whenever lets say
they were playing tag,
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and the girls would
chase her totally fine,
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then the boys
would start chasing her
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she'd begin
changing her behavior,
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she'd pick up
sticks and the rocks
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and throw them at the
boys and, and they'd be like,
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what are you doing,
we're just playing tag,
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but every single time
it seemed rather consistent
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that she was
responding that way to boys,
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but not to the
girls and so I thought,
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"Well, okay well she's weird
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or crazy or
something like that."
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I didn't think
much of it at the time.
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And one day I didn't see her,
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and so I asked one of the locals
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that was helping me
make cement that day.
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I said, "Well, you
know, where's crazy girl?"
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And he said, "Well,
she's with her husband."
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With her husband.
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With her husband and I
looked at him and I said,
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"That's, that's a
stupid joke I don't..."
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He's like, "I'm not joking."
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He says, "She's
with her husband."
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So if you haven't noticed
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we're in the middle
of nowhere in the jungle.
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A lot of the men
have left the village,
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they've gone to the
larger cities to work.
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Sometimes they send
money, sometimes they come back
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every three or six
months or something like that.
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Her father never came back,
her father never sent money,
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her mother was
left in a situation,
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she basically sold her
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to one of the last
remaining men in the village.
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She's eight?
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She's eight years
old? She's eight years old.
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And her mother sold her.
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Her mother sold
her and basically,
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whenever the man feels like it,
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he takes her home
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and being in the
middle of nowhere
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there's uses soap and water
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and basically rapes her in
the morning she can't walk.
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And when I heard that I, I...
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honestly I was always enraged.
00:13:52.69\00:13:56.60
I, for the first time I was,
00:13:56.63\00:13:58.17
I was almost set
on killing somebody.
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I said, "Well show
me where this guy is,
00:14:00.84\00:14:02.24
I'm going to take
his life right now."
00:14:02.27\00:14:04.34
But I obviously I
stopped myself and I said,
00:14:04.37\00:14:06.57
"Well, obviously
I'm not gonna do that
00:14:06.61\00:14:08.21
so can't make any sense,
00:14:08.24\00:14:09.58
we're all going to
be tossed in prisons."
00:14:09.61\00:14:10.95
Sudan was in a very, you know,
00:14:10.98\00:14:13.18
volatile situation at that time,
00:14:13.21\00:14:14.75
it's just a few years
before the referendum,
00:14:14.78\00:14:16.52
they were trying to
see if they were going
00:14:16.55\00:14:17.89
to separate from North Sudan.
00:14:17.92\00:14:19.62
The SPLA at that time,
00:14:19.65\00:14:20.99
the Sudanese
People's Liberation Army
00:14:21.02\00:14:23.93
was kind of just lawless,
00:14:23.96\00:14:27.66
they were doing
whatever they wanted.
00:14:27.73\00:14:29.80
We'd be tossed in
prison me and my friends
00:14:29.83\00:14:31.63
and we'd probably
have no chance of escape
00:14:31.67\00:14:33.80
and we would accomplish nothing,
00:14:33.84\00:14:35.17
so I went through,
well, what else can we do,
00:14:35.20\00:14:37.01
maybe we can get
across the border to Uganda
00:14:37.07\00:14:39.21
that didn't work out
so I just kept on running
00:14:39.24\00:14:41.11
through ideas and
I'm like, "What do I do?
00:14:41.14\00:14:42.51
What do I do? What
do I do? What do I do?"
00:14:42.54\00:14:43.91
You know just, you
try to solve the situation
00:14:43.95\00:14:45.48
and I came to the conclusion
there is absolutely nothing
00:14:45.51\00:14:47.32
that I can do for the situation.
00:14:47.38\00:14:50.39
And, and I felt
hopeless and then I was like,
00:14:50.45\00:14:53.36
"Well, in reality I'm not
the hopeless one, she is."
00:14:53.42\00:14:56.02
Yeah.
00:14:56.06\00:14:57.39
Because I can get home,
00:14:57.43\00:14:58.76
I can go home at
the end of the day
00:14:58.79\00:15:00.23
and she can't,
she doesn't have one.
00:15:00.26\00:15:01.56
And for the rest of her life,
00:15:01.60\00:15:02.93
she's going to be
subject to this person
00:15:02.96\00:15:04.63
who basically just sees her
as, as an object for him to be,
00:15:04.67\00:15:07.97
I don't know
satisfied or whatever it may be.
00:15:08.00\00:15:11.21
And, you know, I
came back to the States
00:15:11.24\00:15:13.48
and I started looking into it
00:15:13.51\00:15:14.84
and, you know, I
thought it was something
00:15:14.88\00:15:16.21
that was, you know...
00:15:16.24\00:15:17.78
Like an isolated case.
00:15:17.81\00:15:19.15
Isolated case or maybe something
00:15:19.18\00:15:20.52
that happens in
like really poor areas,
00:15:20.55\00:15:22.28
you know, you
know, the, you know,
00:15:22.32\00:15:25.05
Africa or maybe Southeast
Asia or things like that
00:15:25.09\00:15:27.56
and I realized as I
was learning more about it,
00:15:27.59\00:15:30.46
it's like, wow, this
stuff happens in the States.
00:15:30.53\00:15:32.96
Human trafficking
happens in the States
00:15:32.99\00:15:34.63
average entry age of girls
00:15:34.66\00:15:37.07
into
prostitution here in America
00:15:37.13\00:15:39.37
is 11 or 12 years old.
00:15:39.40\00:15:40.94
Wow! Yeah, that's so young.
00:15:40.97\00:15:42.60
And you know their
average life expectancy
00:15:42.64\00:15:45.77
after they've entered the life
for the game is seven years.
00:15:45.81\00:15:50.21
And, you know, I
started looking...
00:15:50.25\00:15:51.58
That's passing away
before 20. That is, yeah.
00:15:51.61\00:15:54.95
So those that
live past seven years,
00:15:54.98\00:15:56.85
they're considered like
00:15:56.89\00:15:58.22
lucky ones, ones that have been,
00:15:58.25\00:15:59.59
you know, more hardy I suppose
you could say like it's just,
00:15:59.62\00:16:03.02
they usually don't survive.
00:16:03.06\00:16:05.09
It's a drug addictions,
it's abuse, violence,
00:16:05.13\00:16:08.00
not just by the pimps
00:16:08.03\00:16:09.36
but sometimes even by
the johns, those that buy.
00:16:09.40\00:16:12.90
So, you know, it
became a very harsh reality
00:16:12.93\00:16:17.11
and, you know,
another experience
00:16:17.14\00:16:18.77
in Afghanistan there was,
00:16:18.81\00:16:20.78
that was the year
following in 2010, you know,
00:16:20.81\00:16:23.45
I was across from a compound
that was run by a warlord
00:16:23.48\00:16:26.58
and he basically was taking boys
00:16:26.61\00:16:28.25
because during the war a
lot of people were killed,
00:16:28.28\00:16:30.39
the parents are dead,
00:16:30.42\00:16:31.75
a lot of children
are left orphaned,
00:16:31.79\00:16:33.12
and see basically created harems
00:16:33.15\00:16:34.86
of orphaned boys,
all underage boys,
00:16:34.89\00:16:38.29
it's called, Bacha bazi.
00:16:38.33\00:16:41.50
And, you know, once
they go through puberty,
00:16:41.53\00:16:45.77
they become more masculine,
00:16:45.80\00:16:47.34
they throw them
back out on the streets
00:16:47.40\00:16:48.74
and because the people
know what they were involved in
00:16:48.77\00:16:51.44
and it's a Muslim
society very conservative,
00:16:51.47\00:16:53.74
they basically have no future.
00:16:53.78\00:16:56.58
And so, I felt
hopeless again like here
00:16:56.61\00:16:58.75
I'm in another situation
00:16:58.78\00:17:00.18
where I'm
thinking what can I do?
00:17:00.25\00:17:01.58
What can I do? What can I do?
00:17:01.62\00:17:02.95
And I can't figure anything out,
00:17:02.98\00:17:04.32
you know, I go
back to the States,
00:17:04.35\00:17:05.69
I get more educated,
00:17:05.72\00:17:07.06
I begin to get involved
in all these organizations,
00:17:07.09\00:17:08.89
you know, I end up becoming
extremely involved, you know,
00:17:08.92\00:17:13.13
end up working with
tons of organizations,
00:17:13.16\00:17:15.13
law enforcement, I
even was a consultant
00:17:15.16\00:17:17.07
for the Department
of Homeland Security
00:17:17.10\00:17:18.60
for a short period of time,
00:17:18.63\00:17:20.24
you know, so I, I
really got deep into it
00:17:20.27\00:17:23.24
and I realized that, wow,
00:17:23.27\00:17:25.31
I still can't do anything
even with all this power,
00:17:25.34\00:17:28.34
all these organizations working
with all of these things,
00:17:28.38\00:17:30.65
you realize your own limitations
00:17:30.68\00:17:32.51
and it's like this,
this problem is even bigger,
00:17:32.55\00:17:34.42
even the more help that I get,
00:17:34.45\00:17:36.69
the more I get behind me,
the bigger the problem grows.
00:17:36.72\00:17:40.56
And it only was until
about three years ago,
00:17:40.59\00:17:44.76
with an experience in
Brazil that Levi is a part of
00:17:44.79\00:17:47.93
where I asked
him to come with me,
00:17:47.96\00:17:49.53
that we began to
see, what I began to see
00:17:49.56\00:17:51.47
and then he began
to see as he was also,
00:17:51.50\00:17:53.54
he was new to the
idea of trafficking
00:17:53.60\00:17:56.04
and its existence at that time.
00:17:56.07\00:17:58.07
But we began to
see that the answer
00:17:58.11\00:17:59.87
to every question
is a spiritual one.
00:17:59.91\00:18:03.58
And the reason that
things could not have been done,
00:18:03.61\00:18:06.88
because I came up with,
with, with the issue I said,
00:18:06.95\00:18:11.99
"I don't ever want
to be in a situation
00:18:12.02\00:18:13.89
that I can't get out of
00:18:13.92\00:18:15.26
or get someone
else out of again.
00:18:15.29\00:18:16.62
I don't want to
be in Sudan again,
00:18:16.66\00:18:17.99
I don't want to be
in Afghanistan again,
00:18:18.03\00:18:19.36
I don't want to
be in the government
00:18:19.39\00:18:20.73
or law enforcement
or organizations again."
00:18:20.76\00:18:22.83
And Brazil the experience
00:18:22.86\00:18:25.10
that we had in
Brazil showed me the way
00:18:25.13\00:18:27.70
that I could never
ever get into a situation
00:18:27.74\00:18:30.44
that I could not
be delivered from
00:18:30.51\00:18:31.84
or the person that
I was trying to help
00:18:31.87\00:18:33.21
could not be delivered from.
00:18:33.24\00:18:34.74
And the answer
is a spiritual one
00:18:34.78\00:18:36.24
and, you know,
we kind of discuss
00:18:36.28\00:18:37.88
of how that happened.
00:18:37.91\00:18:39.25
And that's the
ministry of intercession.
00:18:39.28\00:18:40.62
Absolutely.
00:18:40.65\00:18:41.98
So take us to Brazil,
when you first went to Brazil,
00:18:42.02\00:18:44.95
why did you go
in the first place?
00:18:44.99\00:18:47.09
And tell us
little bit about that
00:18:47.16\00:18:48.66
and then how the ministry
of intercession evolved.
00:18:48.69\00:18:50.93
Well, we worked during events
00:18:50.96\00:18:52.29
so when here in
the States you've got,
00:18:52.33\00:18:53.90
you know, you've
got the Super Bowl,
00:18:53.93\00:18:55.23
Super Bowl is huge,
00:18:55.26\00:18:56.60
it's the biggest
event in the United States.
00:18:56.63\00:18:58.50
And we worked one of
the Super Bowls 2013,
00:18:58.53\00:19:01.17
New Orleans,
00:19:01.20\00:19:02.54
and it was an absolutely
horrendous experience...
00:19:02.57\00:19:05.47
For some people who don't know
that's a large sporting event
00:19:05.51\00:19:08.11
here in football
in United States.
00:19:08.14\00:19:09.91
Yeah, it's huge, that's true.
00:19:09.94\00:19:12.51
And so, you know, I was
working during that time,
00:19:12.55\00:19:15.28
we had a group of people,
00:19:15.32\00:19:16.65
we were up
basically till 4-5 A.M.
00:19:16.72\00:19:18.65
every single day, you know,
00:19:18.69\00:19:20.39
the days leading
up to the Super Bowl
00:19:20.42\00:19:22.02
and we were out on the
streets and it was just,
00:19:22.06\00:19:24.79
it was a terrible situation,
just one of those in moments
00:19:24.83\00:19:28.46
where you feel like the
tension is so thick, you could,
00:19:28.50\00:19:31.17
you could basically
like cut through it.
00:19:31.20\00:19:33.74
So I figured, "Hey, next year
the world's biggest games FIFA,
00:19:33.77\00:19:37.64
Brazil."
00:19:37.67\00:19:39.01
And so I started
doing some research
00:19:39.04\00:19:41.44
and I realized, "Wow!
00:19:41.48\00:19:42.98
Brazil already had
half a million children
00:19:43.01\00:19:44.71
that were being
sold into prostitution
00:19:44.75\00:19:46.55
and the average age was nine."
00:19:46.58\00:19:48.02
That was my question, so
pardon my ignorance here,
00:19:48.05\00:19:51.89
you're saying the Super
Bowl everything's tough,
00:19:51.92\00:19:54.49
are you saying
there's a lot of trafficking
00:19:54.52\00:19:55.99
that goes on during that time.
00:19:56.02\00:19:57.36
Oh absolutely, absolutely.
00:19:57.43\00:19:58.76
And it's not that the Super Bowl
00:19:58.79\00:20:00.13
is actually that...
00:20:00.16\00:20:01.46
No, no, but it brings
people, it brings people.
00:20:01.50\00:20:02.83
Yeah, there's lots of
people that come for Super Bowl
00:20:02.86\00:20:04.20
and a lot of bad stuff happens.
00:20:04.23\00:20:05.57
Yeah. Yes.
00:20:05.60\00:20:07.00
So one of the things that we do
00:20:07.04\00:20:09.07
because a lot of people
are brought from other states,
00:20:09.10\00:20:12.77
a lot of pimps bring
their prostitutes there,
00:20:12.81\00:20:19.01
they're stable so
that's what they call it,
00:20:19.05\00:20:21.35
this what they
call their, their women,
00:20:21.38\00:20:22.72
it's their stable
that they bring them over,
00:20:22.75\00:20:25.02
they sometimes bring
them all, some bring a few,
00:20:25.05\00:20:27.42
but what that means is
that if we can catch them
00:20:27.46\00:20:29.99
that they've
come from other states
00:20:30.03\00:20:31.49
then it can
become a federal case
00:20:31.53\00:20:32.96
and we can
submit whatever evidence
00:20:32.99\00:20:34.56
that we found that, you know,
00:20:34.56\00:20:36.43
you know, to the FBI
or what not but it's,
00:20:36.46\00:20:42.10
it's crazy to see how
many people end up coming
00:20:42.14\00:20:45.31
from all over the country
00:20:45.34\00:20:46.81
for other types
of entertainment,
00:20:46.84\00:20:48.18
they don't come there
just for the Super Bowl,
00:20:48.21\00:20:49.98
they want the drinking,
they want the partying,
00:20:50.01\00:20:52.75
they want the, you know,
the sexual, I guess excitement,
00:20:52.78\00:20:57.02
and so that's...
00:20:57.05\00:20:58.85
And New Orleans is
one of those cities
00:20:58.89\00:21:00.66
that caters to that more than,
than, than other large cities.
00:21:00.69\00:21:05.59
They have basically
00:21:05.63\00:21:07.73
on the French Quarter
they've got, you know,
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.43
prostitution, not
prostitution in the open but,
00:21:09.46\00:21:11.93
you know, sex clubs in the open
00:21:11.97\00:21:13.40
with straight
pornography in the windows
00:21:13.44\00:21:16.04
you can just walk by
and it's not hidden any...
00:21:16.07\00:21:18.14
Wow!
00:21:18.17\00:21:19.51
And so, you know, we
send some of the girls in
00:21:19.54\00:21:22.74
to kind of go into some
of these clubs and they said,
00:21:22.78\00:21:25.15
that you know there was
00:21:25.18\00:21:26.51
inappropriate
activity going on and...
00:21:26.55\00:21:27.88
You sent them
into minister? Yes.
00:21:27.92\00:21:29.85
So we sent them in
kind of like with, you know,
00:21:29.88\00:21:32.42
little care kits.
00:21:32.45\00:21:34.32
We knew that during the
games a lot of them would be
00:21:34.36\00:21:37.69
working harder and
not in the positive way,
00:21:37.73\00:21:41.56
and so we knew that
they were going to go
00:21:41.60\00:21:43.50
through difficult times
so we just kind went there,
00:21:43.53\00:21:45.20
said, hey, we talked,
00:21:45.23\00:21:47.20
we approached the, you
know, the bouncers and say,
00:21:47.27\00:21:50.27
"Hey, listen, we're just
here to just kind of, you know,
00:21:50.34\00:21:53.24
this is going to
be a difficult weekend
00:21:53.31\00:21:54.64
for the girls,
00:21:54.68\00:21:56.01
we just want to tell them
that we're praying for them
00:21:56.04\00:21:57.81
and that we've got
something for them."
00:21:57.85\00:21:59.18
And a lot of the
bouncers they were like,
00:21:59.21\00:22:00.62
"Oh, man that's, that's
great, yeah, come on in."
00:22:00.65\00:22:03.49
And so they let the girls go
in and actually minister to them
00:22:03.52\00:22:06.59
and we were able
to give them something
00:22:06.62\00:22:08.16
and little bit of encouragement
and so, I mean, that was nice.
00:22:08.19\00:22:11.26
But it just goes to
show you that I mean it's,
00:22:11.29\00:22:13.26
it's not something
that's in other countries,
00:22:13.29\00:22:15.43
it happens in the States
00:22:15.46\00:22:17.13
and it's not,
it's not the games,
00:22:17.17\00:22:18.50
like I don't you to associate
00:22:18.53\00:22:20.70
sporting events
like the NFL with that,
00:22:20.74\00:22:23.77
it's just that
whenever you have large events
00:22:23.81\00:22:25.97
whatever they may be,
00:22:26.01\00:22:27.34
they attract people
from all over the States
00:22:27.38\00:22:28.98
and all over the
world, they always,
00:22:29.01\00:22:31.31
there's always
going to be people
00:22:31.35\00:22:32.68
who try to profit from that
00:22:32.71\00:22:34.08
in other ways by
providing other types of trash.
00:22:34.12\00:22:35.65
So you were mentioning Brazil...
00:22:35.68\00:22:37.05
Yes.
00:22:37.09\00:22:38.42
Yeah, that's, and
there's a large gathering there
00:22:38.45\00:22:39.79
to a sporting event.
00:22:39.82\00:22:41.16
Yeah. So FIFA is the largest.
00:22:41.19\00:22:42.52
I got involved. Yeah.
00:22:42.56\00:22:44.23
So FIFA is the largest,
there were already like I said,
00:22:44.29\00:22:47.40
half a million people,
00:22:47.46\00:22:49.30
children being
prostituted at that time...
00:22:49.33\00:22:52.17
You said half a million?
Half a million, half a million.
00:22:52.20\00:22:54.97
Five hundred thousand.
00:22:55.00\00:22:56.50
Five hundred
thousand, five hundred thousand.
00:22:56.54\00:22:57.87
This is all under the age
was considered children under...
00:22:57.91\00:22:59.64
Eighteen?
00:22:59.67\00:23:01.08
Well, average,
average age was nine.
00:23:01.11\00:23:03.21
Nine? Nine.
00:23:03.24\00:23:04.58
Wow!
00:23:04.61\00:23:06.51
And, you know,
00:23:06.55\00:23:07.88
I didn't
understand kind of like what,
00:23:07.92\00:23:10.22
what was contributing
to that at the time,
00:23:10.29\00:23:13.02
but I read some statistics
and the government believe
00:23:13.05\00:23:15.79
that leading up to the games
the number of missing children
00:23:15.82\00:23:17.96
would go up by 300%
and I'm wondering well,
00:23:17.99\00:23:20.40
what are they going to
go missing for, you know,
00:23:20.43\00:23:22.03
obviously, it's going to be
for entertaining the tourists
00:23:22.06\00:23:25.40
that come from,
from Italy, from Germany,
00:23:25.43\00:23:27.84
from all over the world,
so mostly Western, you know,
00:23:27.87\00:23:31.01
so kind of like America, Europe,
00:23:31.04\00:23:33.34
those are the main people that
the tourists are coming from.
00:23:33.38\00:23:36.95
And so I thought,
"Man, I got to do something."
00:23:37.01\00:23:39.85
And so I wasn't in the
best spiritual position
00:23:39.88\00:23:42.68
at that time, I kind
of was being worn down,
00:23:42.72\00:23:45.45
you know, when you
see so much darkness
00:23:45.49\00:23:47.22
and you focus on it,
you just kind of you,
00:23:47.26\00:23:50.89
you feel battered
and you're just like
00:23:50.93\00:23:52.69
"Man, I had enough of this,
00:23:52.73\00:23:54.30
I really don't want to
deal with this anymore,
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.13
I'm tired but I
have to do this."
00:23:56.16\00:23:59.03
And so I knew that if
this was going to happen,
00:23:59.07\00:24:03.10
I didn't know what was
going to happen in Brazil
00:24:03.14\00:24:06.04
or what it was like
I've never been there before,
00:24:06.07\00:24:08.74
so I said, but regardless
of that I've got to go
00:24:08.78\00:24:11.48
and I've got to try
something, you know,
00:24:11.51\00:24:12.85
if I don't do anything,
00:24:12.88\00:24:14.22
I won't be able to
live with myself as a man.
00:24:14.25\00:24:16.92
And so I decided to go
00:24:16.99\00:24:18.32
and I try to connect with
different church organizations
00:24:18.35\00:24:21.16
and people and, you
know, they were like
00:24:21.19\00:24:23.32
"Well, that's it's nice
00:24:23.36\00:24:24.69
because you're
trying to do something."
00:24:24.73\00:24:26.06
That the subject matter
seemed rather uncomfortable
00:24:26.09\00:24:28.26
when I to tried to broach
it with other people and so.
00:24:28.30\00:24:30.37
But those that did
listen, they were kind of like,
00:24:30.43\00:24:32.37
we'd like to help you,
00:24:32.40\00:24:33.74
but we don't
exactly know who you are,
00:24:33.80\00:24:35.14
we see that you're willing,
but you're not really known,
00:24:35.17\00:24:38.27
so I mean we wish
you the best good luck,
00:24:38.31\00:24:41.08
you know, God be with
you and pat on the back,
00:24:41.11\00:24:43.31
and I went on.
00:24:43.35\00:24:44.68
I said, "Well,
that's fine, I'll just go
00:24:44.71\00:24:46.05
and I'll figure something out."
00:24:46.08\00:24:47.42
So I got to Brazil
and the few connections
00:24:47.48\00:24:49.88
that I was able
to make in Brazil,
00:24:49.92\00:24:51.25
they ended up fizzling out.
00:24:51.29\00:24:53.19
And I'm like well,
well, I already told everybody
00:24:53.22\00:24:56.29
that I'll be here
for at least six months
00:24:56.32\00:24:57.69
and a month has passed
and I have got nothing done,
00:24:57.73\00:25:00.13
and I have no
plans on the horizon.
00:25:00.16\00:25:02.80
So I said, you know what?
00:25:02.83\00:25:04.20
I'm tired of
feeling sorry for myself,
00:25:04.27\00:25:05.97
I'm just gonna
take a walk outside,
00:25:06.00\00:25:08.04
and, so I'm taking walk outside
00:25:08.07\00:25:10.91
and I saw this lady that
looked kind of pretty depressed
00:25:10.94\00:25:14.44
and so I said,
"Well, I'll pray for her."
00:25:14.48\00:25:16.98
And so I don't do that,
00:25:17.05\00:25:18.91
that's not the first
thing that comes to my mind.
00:25:18.95\00:25:20.55
My mind would be like,
oh, let me go talk to her
00:25:20.62\00:25:22.95
and see what's going on.
00:25:22.98\00:25:24.32
Praise God, I didn't
know Portuguese at the time,
00:25:24.35\00:25:26.02
so I was like, oh, you
know, I can't talk to her,
00:25:26.05\00:25:27.56
I'll just pray for her so I did.
00:25:27.59\00:25:29.19
And I was like, oh, okay,
00:25:29.22\00:25:31.03
and I walked through
the shady part of the town,
00:25:31.06\00:25:33.50
you know, almost kind of like
I saw some boarded up windows,
00:25:33.53\00:25:35.26
and I said, I'll
pray for this place,
00:25:35.30\00:25:36.63
and I saw another
person, another person,
00:25:36.67\00:25:38.43
before I knew it
five hours had passed
00:25:38.47\00:25:39.93
and all I had done was just walk
00:25:40.00\00:25:41.44
and pray throughout
this entire community.
00:25:41.47\00:25:43.87
And I come back to, you know,
00:25:43.91\00:25:46.31
the house where the family
that had given me a place,
00:25:46.34\00:25:49.01
they helped me so much,
00:25:49.04\00:25:51.01
you know, to
stay at their house,
00:25:51.05\00:25:52.38
you know, for so long
00:25:52.41\00:25:53.78
and, you know,
just try to figure out
00:25:53.82\00:25:55.15
what my project was going to be.
00:25:55.18\00:25:56.52
I was like, "Man, this
is what you want me to do."
00:25:56.55\00:25:59.25
You just want me to pray right?
00:25:59.29\00:26:00.69
You don't want me to
depend on organizations,
00:26:00.72\00:26:02.62
you don't want me
to depend on myself,
00:26:02.66\00:26:03.99
in my own ability to do
things, on my experience,
00:26:04.06\00:26:06.66
you just want me
to just go and pray,
00:26:06.73\00:26:10.77
I get it, I'll do that,
00:26:10.80\00:26:12.60
but you got to take me
00:26:12.63\00:26:13.97
to every single
one of those cities
00:26:14.04\00:26:15.37
and I got 800 bucks
00:26:15.40\00:26:16.74
and you got to send me somebody.
00:26:16.77\00:26:18.11
I haven't talked to
Levi in like six years,
00:26:18.14\00:26:19.47
and I randomly
sent him a message...
00:26:19.51\00:26:23.21
So you guys were friends
00:26:23.24\00:26:24.58
before you knew
each other acquaintances
00:26:24.61\00:26:26.01
from years back.
00:26:26.05\00:26:27.42
We had gone to a school
called Arise in Michigan.
00:26:27.45\00:26:30.99
David Asscherick. Yeah.
00:26:31.02\00:26:32.35
Very familiar with that.
00:26:32.39\00:26:33.72
Yeah, in 2007
00:26:33.76\00:26:35.09
is when we had been
there together and...
00:26:35.12\00:26:38.23
I mean we got
along in everything,
00:26:38.26\00:26:40.13
you know, at that,
when we were at the school
00:26:40.20\00:26:42.00
but we kind of had
different friend groups
00:26:42.03\00:26:43.43
and whatnot, and we just
never really talked after that,
00:26:43.47\00:26:47.30
we never really communicated
for like six years, you know,
00:26:47.34\00:26:51.34
until one day I kind of
just randomly got this message
00:26:51.37\00:26:54.24
from Alex and he's, he's like,
00:26:54.28\00:26:56.54
"Do you want to come to
Brazil with me for four months?"
00:26:56.58\00:26:59.21
I'm like, "I don't
know, what are you doing?"
00:26:59.25\00:27:03.02
And so he told me,
00:27:03.05\00:27:05.82
he was going to just
go pray for the cities,
00:27:05.85\00:27:08.42
you know, and I
asked him I was like,
00:27:08.46\00:27:12.56
"So are you with some
kind of organization, or what?
00:27:12.59\00:27:16.13
He said, "No, it's
just me." I said, "Okay.
00:27:16.16\00:27:19.57
Do you have money?"
00:27:19.60\00:27:21.00
I said, "No."
00:27:21.04\00:27:23.27
I said...
00:27:23.30\00:27:24.64
And where we're
praying for? Do you know?
00:27:24.67\00:27:26.01
Yeah, do you, like
you do know anybody there?
00:27:26.04\00:27:27.68
Not really.
00:27:27.71\00:27:29.04
Do you speak the language? No.
00:27:29.08\00:27:31.28
Okay, so I prayed
about it for a couple days
00:27:31.31\00:27:34.88
and God gave me the
go ahead so I went and...
00:27:34.92\00:27:39.22
Did he tell you what you
were going there to pray for,
00:27:39.25\00:27:42.06
I mean were you working
00:27:42.09\00:27:43.43
in trafficking, sex trafficking,
00:27:43.46\00:27:44.79
what he was praying about?
00:27:44.83\00:27:46.16
I was honestly,
I was pretty vague,
00:27:46.19\00:27:47.50
you know, leaving, I
think he explained some of it,
00:27:47.60\00:27:50.63
but I really didn't
kind of have a real picture
00:27:50.67\00:27:53.94
of what we were doing, I
just knew I prayed about it.
00:27:54.00\00:27:57.17
And I felt impressed to go
and so I went, I also had $800.
00:27:57.21\00:28:02.94
So you had 1600
between both of you.
00:28:02.98\00:28:04.75
Yeah. For four months.
00:28:04.78\00:28:06.65
For four months,
00:28:06.68\00:28:08.02
you went there
for four months...
00:28:08.05\00:28:09.38
Yeah.
00:28:09.42\00:28:10.75
And you started
praying both of you.
00:28:10.82\00:28:12.79
Yeah, what we...
00:28:12.82\00:28:14.19
What happened?
What we did is just...
00:28:14.22\00:28:16.52
We arrived in the north
of Brazil, the northeast,
00:28:16.56\00:28:19.69
and in each city
there's 12 host cities
00:28:19.73\00:28:23.10
of the World Cup games
there, 12 cities with a stadium
00:28:23.13\00:28:25.83
that they're going to
be doing the games at.
00:28:25.87\00:28:27.90
And so we will
go through each city
00:28:27.94\00:28:31.84
and the two of us
would walk through the city,
00:28:31.87\00:28:35.21
around the city as much
as we could and just pray.
00:28:35.24\00:28:37.25
We're just praying, especially
we'd go around the areas
00:28:37.28\00:28:41.25
where they're
going to have the games,
00:28:41.28\00:28:42.62
around the
stadiums and, you know,
00:28:42.65\00:28:44.49
the surrounding neighborhoods
00:28:44.52\00:28:45.85
and stuff to
basically we believe
00:28:45.89\00:28:49.82
that God still works the
way that He worked for Joshua.
00:28:49.86\00:28:52.46
Amen.
00:28:52.49\00:28:53.83
You know, He said, "Wherever
you set the sole of your foot,
00:28:53.90\00:28:55.80
I've given that to you."
00:28:55.83\00:28:57.17
Wow!
00:28:57.23\00:28:58.57
And so we were literally saying,
00:28:58.60\00:29:00.67
"God we're here, we don't know
00:29:00.70\00:29:02.57
if you have other
people in these neighborhoods
00:29:02.60\00:29:04.37
or in the city or, you know,
00:29:04.41\00:29:06.81
all these places
that we were going into
00:29:06.84\00:29:08.44
the favelas, the
slums, you know, or wherever,
00:29:08.48\00:29:10.71
we're saying, we don't know
00:29:10.78\00:29:12.11
if you have other people
here asking you to be here,
00:29:12.15\00:29:14.25
so we're here
asking you to be here.
00:29:14.28\00:29:16.48
And we want you to come
00:29:16.52\00:29:17.95
and make this your
territory to work."
00:29:17.99\00:29:20.62
Giving God permission to enter
00:29:20.69\00:29:22.42
that particular
part of the city or that?
00:29:22.46\00:29:24.06
Yeah. Okay.
00:29:24.09\00:29:25.43
It's the, have you considered
00:29:25.46\00:29:26.80
my servant Job
kind of experience,
00:29:26.83\00:29:28.13
you know, where Satan comes
00:29:28.16\00:29:29.66
from wandering
in his territories,
00:29:29.70\00:29:31.53
where you're coming from?
00:29:31.57\00:29:32.90
Oh, I'm coming from the
earth, you know, my territory.
00:29:32.93\00:29:35.17
And then God has to
say, "Well, it's not exactly
00:29:35.20\00:29:37.84
all of your territory, I mean,
00:29:37.87\00:29:39.27
I've got my servant Job
there who's an intercessor,
00:29:39.31\00:29:41.94
because he's
praying for his children."
00:29:41.98\00:29:43.45
So what are you praying?
00:29:43.48\00:29:44.81
So you're going
around the stadium
00:29:44.85\00:29:46.18
through these cities,
00:29:46.21\00:29:47.55
where is your prayer?
00:29:47.58\00:29:48.92
So we basically
had three projects.
00:29:48.95\00:29:50.72
The first one was to
pray for the stadiums,
00:29:50.79\00:29:55.22
for the games, for those
that were coming to visit,
00:29:55.26\00:29:57.76
and we were basically
walking to dedicate the stadiums
00:29:57.79\00:30:00.40
because, you know,
we had learned from,
00:30:00.43\00:30:03.03
from experiences
that there's times
00:30:03.06\00:30:04.40
where events go on
00:30:04.43\00:30:05.77
and there's people who go
00:30:05.80\00:30:07.40
and dedicate
these places to Satan,
00:30:07.44\00:30:09.74
you know, they go
before, you know, some,
00:30:09.77\00:30:11.61
a concert or something like that
00:30:11.64\00:30:13.11
and they'll basically dedicate
the place to Satan, so we say,
00:30:13.14\00:30:15.41
"Well, we're
going to be like Joshua,
00:30:15.44\00:30:16.81
we're going to walk around
the stadium multiple times,
00:30:16.85\00:30:19.25
and we're going to
dedicate it to the Lord.
00:30:19.28\00:30:21.92
We're not going to let
this be Satan's territory,
00:30:21.95\00:30:23.79
and we're going to ask
for protection of all those
00:30:23.85\00:30:25.19
that are visiting,
00:30:25.22\00:30:26.55
the other people
who are coming here,
00:30:26.59\00:30:27.92
they're going to be excited,
all that kind of stuff."
00:30:27.96\00:30:29.29
We just want to make
sure that they were safe.
00:30:29.32\00:30:30.69
And then the second one was that
00:30:30.73\00:30:32.06
we wanted to go through
the different parts of the city
00:30:32.09\00:30:33.96
as much of the city, like
completely around the city
00:30:34.00\00:30:36.90
and then also
through the worst parts,
00:30:36.93\00:30:38.27
the neighborhoods, the
favelas which are kind of,
00:30:38.30\00:30:40.20
you know, some of the...
00:30:40.27\00:30:41.70
they're considered to be
00:30:41.74\00:30:43.07
some of the most danger,
danger, most dangerous slums.
00:30:43.10\00:30:47.64
And, you know, we
were warned not to go,
00:30:47.68\00:30:49.38
but we decided that
00:30:49.41\00:30:50.88
that was what we were
called to do and so we did,
00:30:50.91\00:30:53.65
and we prayed in those areas
and the stuff that happened,
00:30:53.68\00:30:56.75
the miracles that
happened in those areas was,
00:30:56.82\00:30:58.32
was amazing.
00:30:58.35\00:30:59.69
And then the third project was
00:30:59.72\00:31:01.12
that we wanted to
train young people
00:31:01.16\00:31:02.79
to minister to
prostitutes on the street.
00:31:02.82\00:31:06.03
And how to pray for them
and how to minister to them.
00:31:06.06\00:31:08.96
and there was a
protocol to that for safety,
00:31:09.00\00:31:11.07
obviously not
just physical safety,
00:31:11.10\00:31:13.40
but also spiritual
safety, and so there's,
00:31:13.44\00:31:15.50
it wasn't just
nilly-willy going,
00:31:15.54\00:31:17.27
it was something
that we had already built
00:31:17.31\00:31:18.71
over the years from
experience in Atlanta,
00:31:18.74\00:31:20.44
and I just kind
of was adapting it
00:31:20.48\00:31:22.11
based on the Brazilian culture.
00:31:22.14\00:31:24.05
So I created a program
and then we just prayed
00:31:24.11\00:31:26.28
that there would be people
who would be willing to do it
00:31:26.31\00:31:28.32
and God provided.
00:31:28.35\00:31:29.68
And in seven of
the twelve cities,
00:31:29.72\00:31:31.32
there were young
people that went out
00:31:31.35\00:31:33.12
and had an amazing
results with getting prostitutes
00:31:33.15\00:31:36.09
to come off the
street to go into church
00:31:36.12\00:31:37.63
and want Bible studies
00:31:37.66\00:31:38.99
and a whole
bunch of other things.
00:31:39.03\00:31:40.36
You know just an example,
00:31:40.40\00:31:42.86
I want to just give
you an example of how
00:31:42.90\00:31:44.53
God worked
through this experience
00:31:44.57\00:31:46.67
because it was really
like everywhere we went,
00:31:46.70\00:31:48.94
every single city we
went to, he had already did...
00:31:48.97\00:31:53.11
I mean he had everything
like the domino setup...
00:31:53.14\00:31:55.74
The groundwork was laid,
we just kind of showed up.
00:31:55.78\00:31:57.58
Yeah, like, one of the cities
that we went to kind of right
00:31:57.61\00:32:02.15
after we had decided
00:32:02.18\00:32:03.52
to start trying to do
this project going out
00:32:03.59\00:32:05.95
and actually
reaching out to prostitutes
00:32:05.99\00:32:09.16
with the church
members, of course, not just us.
00:32:09.19\00:32:11.69
You know, we didn't think that
would be an appropriate thing,
00:32:11.73\00:32:15.23
but with the church members,
00:32:15.26\00:32:16.63
with the girls
from the church and...
00:32:16.67\00:32:18.10
That's good.
00:32:18.13\00:32:19.47
And the guys and so,
00:32:19.50\00:32:20.94
we got to the third city was it?
00:32:20.97\00:32:26.21
And we started
to kind of explain
00:32:26.24\00:32:29.24
to the young people
what we were there for.
00:32:29.28\00:32:31.11
We ended up going on
a like a camp with them
00:32:31.15\00:32:35.58
that weekend
and the young people
00:32:35.62\00:32:37.92
as we were telling
them what we're doing,
00:32:37.95\00:32:40.06
why we're in Brazil
and, and that they said,
00:32:40.12\00:32:42.36
"You know for about
the past three weeks,
00:32:42.39\00:32:45.76
this group of us
we've been praying,
00:32:45.79\00:32:49.76
we felt impressed that we
should go out in the streets
00:32:49.80\00:32:52.07
and reach out to prostitutes,
but we didn't know how,
00:32:52.10\00:32:53.97
and we were just praying for God
00:32:54.00\00:32:55.34
to teach us how to do
that, and now you guys show up
00:32:55.37\00:32:57.24
and that's exactly
what you're here to do."
00:32:57.27\00:32:58.67
That's God.
00:32:58.71\00:33:00.11
And so we were
able to spend time
00:33:00.18\00:33:01.58
while we were there
with them giving them
00:33:01.61\00:33:04.15
the kind of the
rundown how to, you know,
00:33:04.18\00:33:06.65
do this project, and we went out
00:33:06.72\00:33:08.32
and did it with them.
00:33:08.35\00:33:10.02
And it was just like that every,
00:33:10.09\00:33:12.42
every city that we went to,
00:33:12.45\00:33:14.06
it was as if God
already had everything in place.
00:33:14.09\00:33:15.42
It was interesting.
00:33:15.46\00:33:16.79
Because he said, it was
the third city, so you think,
00:33:16.83\00:33:19.93
"Oh, well, why didn't it
happen in the first city?"
00:33:20.00\00:33:21.56
Well, I told you
there's three projects, right?
00:33:21.60\00:33:23.53
Well, the first one
we did in the first city
00:33:23.57\00:33:25.67
and then we were praying
should we do the second one?
00:33:25.70\00:33:27.97
And in the second
city, God showed us
00:33:28.00\00:33:29.87
that we should
do the second one,
00:33:29.90\00:33:31.24
and then we were like,
00:33:31.27\00:33:32.61
"Well, will you
provide for us to do
00:33:32.64\00:33:34.14
the third idea that we had."
00:33:34.18\00:33:35.81
And God in the third
city provided the third,
00:33:35.84\00:33:39.05
and so each step of
the way we were praying,
00:33:39.08\00:33:41.28
"Lord, are You going to
approve this next step."
00:33:41.32\00:33:43.95
And we get to this
city and the doors are open.
00:33:43.99\00:33:46.32
Wow!
00:33:46.35\00:33:47.69
Every single time
00:33:47.72\00:33:49.06
and so He was
saying yes, yes, yes,
00:33:49.09\00:33:51.39
now go forward,
I've already set it up.
00:33:51.43\00:33:53.70
Strong confirmation isn't it,
00:33:53.76\00:33:55.06
from the Lord
that He was in this.
00:33:55.10\00:33:56.43
Everywhere, everywhere
through this experience, yeah.
00:33:56.46\00:33:57.80
Very encouraging.
00:33:57.83\00:33:59.53
Now you had a certain testimony
00:33:59.57\00:34:01.47
with the high priest of Satan...
00:34:01.50\00:34:03.04
Yes.
00:34:03.07\00:34:04.41
..occurred there and it gave you
00:34:04.44\00:34:05.77
more a glimpse into the...
00:34:05.81\00:34:07.18
I guess maybe the other side
or more of the spiritual battle
00:34:07.21\00:34:09.44
takes place with
this human trafficking?
00:34:09.48\00:34:11.21
'Cause we are
in a battle I mean,
00:34:11.25\00:34:12.75
it's between what we mentioned
earlier the great controversy.
00:34:12.78\00:34:15.85
What's the great
controversy about?
00:34:15.88\00:34:17.22
Is between
Christ and Satan. Yeah.
00:34:17.29\00:34:20.19
And it's a battle, I mean,
00:34:20.26\00:34:21.59
it's a real spiritual
battle for sure and so,
00:34:21.62\00:34:24.13
when you're in these...
00:34:24.16\00:34:25.59
I'm just gonna call
them dark, dark industries,
00:34:25.63\00:34:27.86
I don't even know what
you would even call it.
00:34:27.93\00:34:30.73
Anyway, it's Satan is there,
00:34:30.77\00:34:33.03
I mean he's pushing
with all his might to try
00:34:33.07\00:34:35.97
and keep
control of his territory
00:34:36.00\00:34:38.61
and try to
gather more territory,
00:34:38.64\00:34:40.04
so it's a real battle.
00:34:40.08\00:34:41.41
And I think that's something
that we oftentimes glimpse over
00:34:41.44\00:34:44.41
is that we think that, you know,
00:34:44.45\00:34:45.91
human trafficking
or whatnot is like,
00:34:45.95\00:34:47.38
oh, it's organized crime
00:34:47.42\00:34:48.85
or it's just some small pimp or,
00:34:48.88\00:34:50.65
you know, it's just these people
00:34:50.69\00:34:52.69
trying to make money, you know,
00:34:52.72\00:34:54.06
in a illegal way or, you know,
00:34:54.12\00:34:56.69
hurting other
people while doing it,
00:34:56.73\00:34:58.13
but in reality when you
think of the great controversy
00:34:58.16\00:35:00.53
as you said it's
between Christ and Satan.
00:35:00.56\00:35:02.33
That's right.
00:35:02.36\00:35:03.70
Are Christ and
Satan physical beings?
00:35:03.77\00:35:05.23
They're spiritual beings.
00:35:05.27\00:35:06.77
Yes, they manifest
themselves physically,
00:35:06.84\00:35:09.20
but it's a spiritual
battle and yet we're,
00:35:09.24\00:35:11.11
we're looking at
what's happening physically
00:35:11.14\00:35:13.38
as if it's only physical,
but it's obviously not.
00:35:13.41\00:35:16.51
And the reason that
I felt that, you know,
00:35:16.54\00:35:18.58
in those previous
experiences that I had
00:35:18.61\00:35:20.22
that I couldn't do anything
00:35:20.25\00:35:21.58
is because I was looking
at it as a physical battle
00:35:21.62\00:35:23.69
when I was trying to
resolve it in a physical manner.
00:35:23.72\00:35:25.92
I wasn't looking
at it completely.
00:35:25.95\00:35:27.56
I mean, I knew
that it was spiritual
00:35:27.59\00:35:29.29
and I had this
idea and, you know,
00:35:29.32\00:35:31.06
I had certain
pieces of the puzzle
00:35:31.09\00:35:32.49
where I had seen, you know,
00:35:32.53\00:35:33.90
where even a culture
religion and things like that
00:35:33.93\00:35:35.86
were super involved in
it but until I'd gotten,
00:35:35.90\00:35:38.83
you know, to this
experience with this,
00:35:38.87\00:35:40.40
this ex-Satanist
00:35:40.44\00:35:42.30
that I began
putting it all together,
00:35:42.34\00:35:44.17
and I even had
to apologize to Levi
00:35:44.21\00:35:46.01
because I kind of
felt like I had brought him
00:35:46.04\00:35:48.21
into a dangerous situation
without even letting him know
00:35:48.24\00:35:50.95
and it was kind of because,
00:35:50.98\00:35:53.28
I didn't fully grasped it
at that point either and...
00:35:53.31\00:35:56.25
Suppose this experience then?
00:35:56.28\00:35:58.09
So were in one of
the cities Fortaleza,
00:35:58.12\00:36:01.66
it was the fourth city
00:36:01.69\00:36:03.02
and there was a guy
who came to the church,
00:36:03.06\00:36:05.19
he said, that he needed
to get back to Sao Paulo
00:36:05.23\00:36:07.76
and it's very far from
Fortaleza to Sao Paula.
00:36:07.83\00:36:10.60
And the church in Fortaleza
didn't want anything to do
00:36:10.67\00:36:12.30
with our ministry.
00:36:12.33\00:36:13.67
They said, "We're doing
enough ministries already.
00:36:13.74\00:36:15.17
We appreciate what it
is you guys are doing,
00:36:15.20\00:36:17.01
but I don't think our church
is going to be comfortable
00:36:17.04\00:36:19.07
with that kind of thing.'
00:36:19.11\00:36:20.58
And so we understood,
00:36:20.61\00:36:21.94
we were very thankful
for just them hosting us
00:36:21.98\00:36:24.48
and helping us
out with, you know,
00:36:24.51\00:36:26.11
and we helped them
out with their ministries.
00:36:26.15\00:36:28.28
And so one day
this guy shows up,
00:36:28.32\00:36:30.59
he's trying to go to Sao
Paulo, and the pastor says,
00:36:30.62\00:36:32.72
"No, we're not going to,
00:36:32.75\00:36:34.09
we're not going
to give you money,
00:36:34.16\00:36:35.62
but if you work for the
church, we'll buy you a ticket."
00:36:35.66\00:36:38.73
And so he's like, okay, sure
that sounds like a good deal.
00:36:38.76\00:36:40.93
So the guy says,
"I'll paint the church."
00:36:40.96\00:36:42.90
Said, "Okay, we can do that."
00:36:42.93\00:36:44.27
So they buys the paint,
00:36:44.30\00:36:45.63
paints the
church, pastors talking.
00:36:45.67\00:36:49.04
They're discussing how
to do an evangelistic series
00:36:49.07\00:36:51.07
with the head Bible
worker, the guy's listening in,
00:36:51.11\00:36:54.31
and over the
course of three days
00:36:54.34\00:36:56.85
listening to all of the studies,
00:36:56.91\00:36:58.78
you know, in that,
that short span of time,
00:36:58.81\00:37:01.25
he's like, oh, wow,
00:37:01.28\00:37:02.62
I've never
heard stuff like this.
00:37:02.65\00:37:04.02
So he tells the
pastor that, oh, man,
00:37:04.05\00:37:05.65
I need to get
baptized this Sabbath.
00:37:05.69\00:37:07.69
And the pastor is like okay,
00:37:07.72\00:37:10.06
I've heard everything
that you said, it's enough,
00:37:10.09\00:37:11.76
I'm just gonna go and
get baptized this Sabbath.
00:37:11.79\00:37:13.96
And says but
tomorrow bring those Americans
00:37:14.00\00:37:17.17
that are at your
house to come work with me,
00:37:17.20\00:37:19.93
and the pastor was like,
00:37:19.97\00:37:21.30
okay, so he comes and tells us,
00:37:21.34\00:37:23.51
"Hey, guys,
you'll never believe it,
00:37:23.54\00:37:24.91
I told you're doing ministries,
00:37:24.94\00:37:26.27
look, look this guy wants
to get baptized in three days
00:37:26.31\00:37:28.61
and all this kind of
stuff, it's amazing evangelism."
00:37:28.64\00:37:31.38
And then we're like,
"Oh, that's wonderful.'
00:37:31.41\00:37:32.78
We were excited.
00:37:32.81\00:37:34.15
And he said, "But he wants
you to come and work with him."
00:37:34.22\00:37:36.28
So we're like, oh,
okay, we'll come work with him
00:37:36.32\00:37:38.42
and so we do.
00:37:38.45\00:37:39.79
His name was Williams
00:37:39.82\00:37:41.49
and he basically
he said, "Hey, listen.
00:37:41.52\00:37:44.06
I've got something
I need to tell you,
00:37:44.13\00:37:45.76
but I can't tell you until
I'm baptized, I'm not safe,
00:37:45.79\00:37:49.03
because once I get baptized
I can tell you everything
00:37:49.06\00:37:51.90
that you need to know
00:37:51.93\00:37:53.30
and there's things
that you need to know."
00:37:53.34\00:37:55.10
So then one of you guys
is going to have like a dream
00:37:55.14\00:37:57.07
or vision or some
like that this Friday
00:37:57.11\00:37:58.44
and we're looking at him
like, this is kind of weird.
00:37:58.47\00:38:00.51
He's weird guy.
00:38:00.54\00:38:01.88
All right, he's very
nice guy, poor guy, all right.
00:38:01.91\00:38:04.18
So Friday passes,
nobody has a dream or vision,
00:38:04.21\00:38:06.65
nothing happens.
00:38:06.68\00:38:08.02
Saturday he gets baptized,
Sabbath, he gets baptized
00:38:08.05\00:38:10.42
and then he comes
afterwards and he says,
00:38:10.45\00:38:12.95
"Alex, I need to
tell you something.
00:38:12.99\00:38:15.69
He said, I was going to
back to Sao Paulo because my,
00:38:15.72\00:38:18.46
my families are all part
of the Masonic lodge there,
00:38:18.49\00:38:21.26
we're all part of the
Satanic church as well."
00:38:21.30\00:38:24.40
And says, "I'm a
Satanist or I was a Satanist."
00:38:24.43\00:38:27.77
And he says, you know,
we, we would eat up Christians
00:38:27.80\00:38:31.14
like you guys alive
says, but when I came
00:38:31.17\00:38:33.78
and I listened to
the way that the pastor
00:38:33.81\00:38:37.18
and the Bible worker
explained the great controversy,
00:38:37.25\00:38:39.15
I felt that, wow,
this is the only church
00:38:39.18\00:38:41.92
that I've ever heard
00:38:41.95\00:38:43.28
that seems to understand
that this battle even exists.
00:38:43.32\00:38:47.19
But I don't think
they understand it,
00:38:47.26\00:38:50.63
because I think
they talk about it
00:38:50.66\00:38:52.79
and they
understand it theoretically,
00:38:52.83\00:38:54.63
but I don't think
they truly understand
00:38:54.66\00:38:56.67
how it works and
how to engage in it,
00:38:56.73\00:38:58.67
but you, says,
you're different, says,
00:38:58.70\00:39:01.67
"You're trying to take
Satan's property from him.
00:39:01.70\00:39:04.17
He says, "It's his."
00:39:04.24\00:39:05.77
And he doesn't
take lightly to those
00:39:05.81\00:39:07.14
who try to steal
from his own house.
00:39:07.21\00:39:09.91
Says, "He's going to
do absolutely everything
00:39:09.94\00:39:11.68
he can to kill you,
00:39:11.71\00:39:13.05
to destroy your
ministry by causing you to fall.
00:39:13.08\00:39:15.62
He's going to...
00:39:15.65\00:39:17.02
He doesn't take lightly to it."
00:39:17.05\00:39:19.65
And, you know,
it was a whole lot,
00:39:19.69\00:39:21.66
it was a very long conversation
but basically he was saying,
00:39:21.69\00:39:26.53
"I know the
darkness from the darkness."
00:39:26.56\00:39:30.80
And the light ought to
be stronger in this battle.
00:39:30.87\00:39:33.94
I know the light can win
00:39:33.97\00:39:35.57
and that's why I've converted
from darkness to light,
00:39:35.60\00:39:38.44
but you who call
yourselves children of the light
00:39:38.47\00:39:40.98
don't seem to understand
00:39:41.01\00:39:42.34
and take that
battle very seriously.
00:39:42.38\00:39:44.78
And he gave us
some warnings, he says,
00:39:44.81\00:39:46.48
"When you create your groups,
don't associate with people
00:39:46.51\00:39:49.18
who are not of
the same mind as you
00:39:49.22\00:39:50.69
because even walking with people
00:39:50.72\00:39:52.45
who are thinking
about something else
00:39:52.49\00:39:54.26
into a dangerous situation
00:39:54.29\00:39:55.79
diminishes the
amount of protection
00:39:55.82\00:39:57.23
that you have over yourself.
00:39:57.26\00:39:58.89
Just their
presence is a detraction
00:39:58.93\00:40:01.63
from the influence that
you can gain for the Lord.
00:40:01.66\00:40:05.10
Because we know
the Christ has won.
00:40:05.13\00:40:07.20
Yes.
00:40:07.24\00:40:08.57
So Christ has won, I
mean Satan is defeated,
00:40:08.60\00:40:10.31
but again he's
doing everything he can
00:40:10.37\00:40:12.47
to keep as many
people from joining God side.
00:40:12.51\00:40:15.24
Yeah, so he's given you
00:40:15.28\00:40:17.85
from his
experience in the dark side
00:40:17.88\00:40:19.98
to be careful
not fall into traps
00:40:20.02\00:40:21.82
Right.
00:40:21.85\00:40:23.18
..that Satan has
more power because he...
00:40:23.22\00:40:24.55
God has all the power. Yeah.
00:40:24.59\00:40:25.92
He's strong, He's won.
00:40:25.95\00:40:27.52
And that's, and
that's the thing is that,
00:40:27.56\00:40:29.49
you know, we talk
about spiritual warfare,
00:40:29.52\00:40:31.53
and I think in warfare
terms, I mean it is war.
00:40:31.56\00:40:34.23
Yeah.
00:40:34.30\00:40:35.60
And so I kind of
look at Christ as,
00:40:35.63\00:40:37.30
as a samurai and Satan as
a ninja and people are like,
00:40:37.33\00:40:40.30
oh, okay what does that mean?
00:40:40.37\00:40:41.70
Well, samurai,
he fights for honor
00:40:41.74\00:40:43.94
and he uses a sword and a bow,
00:40:43.97\00:40:45.44
you know, he
perfects his weapons,
00:40:45.47\00:40:47.68
he perfect his craft,
00:40:47.71\00:40:49.04
he wants to be the
best at what he does.
00:40:49.08\00:40:50.78
When he goes on the battlefield,
00:40:50.81\00:40:52.15
he states his name,
says, my name is such and such
00:40:52.18\00:40:54.82
and I'm, you know,
00:40:54.85\00:40:56.18
it's a pleasure to
do battle with you,
00:40:56.22\00:40:58.22
and he respects the
person that he fights with
00:40:58.25\00:40:59.92
and, you know.
00:41:00.06\00:41:01.39
A ninja, he's not
that way, he know,
00:41:01.42\00:41:03.73
he'll use any
weapon that he can.
00:41:03.76\00:41:06.56
He doesn't wear armor,
the shadow is his armor.
00:41:06.59\00:41:09.26
You know, he uses tricks.
00:41:09.30\00:41:10.77
He doesn't need
to fight upfront,
00:41:10.83\00:41:12.43
he'll use other people
00:41:12.47\00:41:13.80
and manipulate other
people in the situations
00:41:13.84\00:41:15.40
and use the environment
to basically overcome you
00:41:15.44\00:41:17.97
in any way possible because...
00:41:18.01\00:41:19.34
Deception.
00:41:19.37\00:41:20.74
Because he's not
strong in a one-on-one battle,
00:41:20.78\00:41:22.84
he's afraid to
face Christ head on.
00:41:22.88\00:41:24.78
And so he has to go
these roundabout ways
00:41:24.81\00:41:26.88
and, you know, for the
longest time I thought,
00:41:26.92\00:41:28.25
oh, Satan's so strong
but in reality he's a coward.
00:41:28.28\00:41:30.35
He is strong but he is a coward,
00:41:30.39\00:41:32.45
and he's afraid to face Christ
00:41:32.49\00:41:34.46
and those who are
under his banner straight on.
00:41:34.49\00:41:37.33
And that's something
that we needed to realize,
00:41:37.39\00:41:39.66
because we weren't,
00:41:39.69\00:41:41.10
we weren't acting
that way all the time,
00:41:41.13\00:41:42.60
you know, we were giving
Satan at times too much credit.
00:41:42.63\00:41:47.30
So here this was
in, this is in Brazil?
00:41:47.37\00:41:49.14
Yeah.
00:41:49.17\00:41:50.54
I mean time is
going so fast here so...
00:41:50.57\00:41:52.01
We need a couple hours.
00:41:52.04\00:41:54.84
So then you're obviously,
00:41:54.88\00:41:56.71
I mean this is a worldwide issue
00:41:56.78\00:41:58.58
is trafficking.
00:41:58.61\00:42:00.12
It's not just
happening at major events,
00:42:00.15\00:42:02.08
this is happening
on a day-to-day basis,
00:42:02.12\00:42:03.79
whether there's a
large events going on there,
00:42:03.82\00:42:07.26
this is happening,
I mean unfortunately.
00:42:07.29\00:42:09.26
I know you have
statistics, it's happening.
00:42:09.29\00:42:10.96
Do you know worldwide
what the percentage is
00:42:10.99\00:42:13.13
or maybe in the North America,
the United States, they,
00:42:13.16\00:42:16.43
it's got to be a huge percentage
00:42:16.46\00:42:17.80
'cause you said, 500,000...
00:42:17.83\00:42:20.30
Yeah.
00:42:20.34\00:42:21.67
..little kids,
average age of nine,
00:42:21.70\00:42:23.27
we're just at this one
of them, that's horrible.
00:42:23.30\00:42:25.67
So here in the
United States whatever,
00:42:25.71\00:42:27.38
I don't know what
statistics you have.
00:42:27.44\00:42:28.78
So they, they say that
through the United States
00:42:28.81\00:42:30.15
about a quarter
of a million people
00:42:30.18\00:42:31.51
are trafficked annually.
00:42:31.55\00:42:32.88
A quarter of a
million? A quarter of a million.
00:42:32.91\00:42:34.85
And that's in United States.
That's in the United States.
00:42:34.88\00:42:37.55
And that's statistic
is a general statistic,
00:42:37.59\00:42:39.79
it doesn't mean local, it means
00:42:39.82\00:42:41.32
it's traffic
through the United States
00:42:41.36\00:42:42.99
like brought
from other countries,
00:42:43.02\00:42:44.56
you know, they could be
for working in restaurants
00:42:44.59\00:42:46.66
or working in spas or
other cut types of things.
00:42:46.70\00:42:48.43
Okay.
00:42:48.46\00:42:49.80
Some of it is labor trafficking,
00:42:49.83\00:42:51.17
some of it is sex trafficking.
00:42:51.20\00:42:53.17
But locally, you know,
it's that's difficult number,
00:42:53.20\00:42:56.17
you hear these
official numbers like,
00:42:56.20\00:42:57.74
oh, it's between 28
and 30 million people
00:42:57.77\00:43:00.18
that are slaves today.
00:43:00.21\00:43:01.98
More than
there's ever been before.
00:43:02.01\00:43:03.35
Yes, there's more than
there's ever been before,
00:43:03.38\00:43:05.11
but I would say that number
00:43:05.15\00:43:06.48
is significantly short
of what the reality is.
00:43:06.51\00:43:10.19
And I think the reason why
00:43:10.22\00:43:11.55
is because the
definition is so narrow.
00:43:11.59\00:43:13.29
We talk about human
trafficking as just like people
00:43:13.36\00:43:15.49
that are trafficked, you know,
00:43:15.52\00:43:16.86
for the purpose
of being exploited,
00:43:16.93\00:43:19.23
you know, forcefully.
00:43:19.26\00:43:21.03
But in reality it's a
whole lot more than that.
00:43:21.06\00:43:23.43
Slavery is a lot, a lot larger,
it touches a lot more people.
00:43:23.47\00:43:27.84
So I would, I would say
that statistics fall short,
00:43:27.87\00:43:31.84
but ultimately if you
want to know statistics,
00:43:31.87\00:43:33.88
I would say that if
you look at the statistics
00:43:33.94\00:43:36.01
of the number of children
00:43:36.04\00:43:37.41
that are being born
to single parent homes,
00:43:37.45\00:43:41.22
it's astounding.
00:43:41.25\00:43:43.05
The...
00:43:43.08\00:43:44.42
You know, 76% of
blacks in America born
00:43:44.45\00:43:47.56
to single mothers,
00:43:47.62\00:43:49.66
60% of Native
Americans, 56% of Hispanics,
00:43:49.69\00:43:53.66
35% of Whites and so,
00:43:53.70\00:43:56.50
if you take that
all in conjunction,
00:43:56.53\00:43:57.87
we're basically saying
that half of the children
00:43:57.90\00:43:59.47
in this country are being
born to single parents, half.
00:43:59.50\00:44:02.30
And that puts
them at a greater risk
00:44:02.34\00:44:03.71
of being trafficked.
00:44:03.74\00:44:05.07
That puts them at a greater risk
00:44:05.11\00:44:06.44
because 95% of all the
people that are trafficked
00:44:06.47\00:44:09.21
have a history of family abuse
00:44:09.24\00:44:11.41
and that doesn't
mean sexual abuse,
00:44:11.45\00:44:12.78
because 80% of
that abuse is neglect.
00:44:12.81\00:44:15.15
And if you look at
half of the kids don't have
00:44:15.18\00:44:17.19
one of their parents,
neglect is automatically there.
00:44:17.22\00:44:20.19
So I want to...
00:44:20.26\00:44:21.59
So your ministry
is Crying At The Gates
00:44:21.62\00:44:24.03
so, you know, you
were talking about praying,
00:44:24.06\00:44:26.13
you know, in Brazil,
you know, these cities.
00:44:26.16\00:44:28.60
So is your
ministry then basically
00:44:28.63\00:44:30.83
if you see someone, and I mean,
00:44:30.87\00:44:32.67
because you now probably
have pretty good antennas like,
00:44:32.70\00:44:34.67
oh, I think this
person, you know,
00:44:34.70\00:44:36.10
because we're probably
00:44:36.14\00:44:37.47
associated with
people throughout,
00:44:37.51\00:44:38.84
you know, we go to
town and we have no clue,
00:44:38.87\00:44:40.44
I don't know what I'm
necessary always looking for.
00:44:40.48\00:44:42.94
So is your
ministry, if you see someone
00:44:42.98\00:44:44.85
you just stand
back and pray for them,
00:44:44.88\00:44:47.38
or what does your
ministry actually entail
00:44:47.42\00:44:49.45
Crying At the Gates?
00:44:49.48\00:44:50.85
What we have been
involved in this past year
00:44:50.89\00:44:53.62
and trying to do more
of is really the main focus
00:44:53.66\00:44:59.96
has been trying to get
churches and God's people
00:45:00.06\00:45:03.20
as a whole
praying for their towns,
00:45:03.23\00:45:05.90
and their cities,
00:45:05.93\00:45:07.27
just, that, that is
really the center of all of it.
00:45:07.34\00:45:10.61
You know,
trafficking is an issue
00:45:10.64\00:45:13.21
and we are
interested in working against
00:45:13.24\00:45:17.45
that particular issue,
00:45:17.48\00:45:18.81
but in a spiritual
sense everybody is a slave,
00:45:18.85\00:45:22.35
sin who doesn't
know Christ, right?
00:45:22.38\00:45:24.69
That's good.
00:45:24.72\00:45:26.05
And that is the
devil's way of trafficking
00:45:26.09\00:45:28.56
through whatever means he uses.
00:45:28.59\00:45:31.03
It's not just sex trafficking,
00:45:31.06\00:45:32.56
it's anything that causes
people to be enslaved to him.
00:45:32.59\00:45:35.90
And so
ultimately, and of course,
00:45:35.93\00:45:37.70
there are so many
stories I wish we...
00:45:37.73\00:45:40.84
I was gonna ask for something,
00:45:40.90\00:45:42.24
could you at least share
a couple stories of people
00:45:42.27\00:45:43.71
who've been freed or deliverance
00:45:43.77\00:45:46.11
from what has taken place?
00:45:46.14\00:45:47.48
Yeah.
00:45:47.54\00:45:48.88
Just even going back to
the experience in Brazil,
00:45:48.91\00:45:51.58
one story that was especially
00:45:51.61\00:45:53.42
kind of stuck out to us for the,
00:45:53.48\00:45:57.55
you know, to illustrate
the effectiveness of prayer
00:45:57.59\00:46:00.69
is Alex had
00:46:00.72\00:46:02.82
because he had
worked in anti-trafficking
00:46:02.86\00:46:04.96
like he said for
years before this,
00:46:04.99\00:46:06.73
and it takes
usually years of contact
00:46:06.76\00:46:11.20
many, many times with
the people on the streets
00:46:11.23\00:46:14.37
before they eventually
end up coming out of it.
00:46:14.40\00:46:17.51
In Brazil there
was one particular city
00:46:17.54\00:46:20.21
that we went to
00:46:20.28\00:46:21.98
and we ended up
having the opportunity
00:46:22.01\00:46:25.91
to train a very
small group of people there
00:46:25.95\00:46:29.78
to do this
project going on outreach
00:46:29.82\00:46:32.29
to the
prostitutes in their streets
00:46:32.32\00:46:34.09
and praying for them,
00:46:34.16\00:46:35.82
and then we left
without knowing anything more,
00:46:35.86\00:46:38.59
and a few weeks later,
00:46:38.63\00:46:40.50
we got a call from
them and they said,
00:46:40.53\00:46:44.27
"They had entered up
going to do this project
00:46:44.30\00:46:47.10
praying for these, you know,
00:46:47.14\00:46:48.47
ladies on the street
00:46:48.50\00:46:49.84
and they got a phone
call a couple of weeks
00:46:49.87\00:46:51.94
after they had gone
out, and the lady said,
00:46:51.97\00:46:54.14
"I don't know if you remember me
00:46:54.18\00:46:55.51
but you came, you gave me a card
00:46:55.54\00:46:58.05
and you prayed with me."
00:46:58.08\00:46:59.71
And she said,
00:46:59.75\00:47:01.88
"That night that you guys
came and made contact with me
00:47:01.92\00:47:05.05
was my very first
night in prostitution
00:47:05.09\00:47:07.69
ever in my life."
00:47:07.72\00:47:09.19
She said, "I was desperate
'cause I didn't have work,
00:47:09.22\00:47:11.03
I don't have husband, I
have kids, I got to support.
00:47:11.06\00:47:14.00
But she said when you left,
00:47:14.03\00:47:16.56
I realized that
God didn't want me here
00:47:16.60\00:47:18.17
and I left before I
ever had my first customer."
00:47:18.20\00:47:21.07
And she said,
"But I still need work,
00:47:21.10\00:47:22.90
can you help me."
00:47:22.94\00:47:24.31
And now she is
cleaning houses for the people
00:47:24.34\00:47:26.78
of that church
there in that city.
00:47:26.81\00:47:29.14
Amen.
00:47:29.18\00:47:30.55
This is the same
city that pastor said
00:47:30.58\00:47:32.18
that the church wanted
would be uncomfortable with the,
00:47:32.21\00:47:34.72
with the idea of doing anything
00:47:34.75\00:47:36.08
because there is
no recovery programs
00:47:36.12\00:47:38.32
and there is no
like what do you do
00:47:38.35\00:47:39.82
if somebody wants
to come off the street,
00:47:39.85\00:47:41.29
you've got nowhere to put them,
00:47:41.32\00:47:42.66
you got, you
know, no, no, no system
00:47:42.69\00:47:44.43
to help them to recover.
00:47:44.46\00:47:46.06
And I said, "Well, you
have to have the desire first.
00:47:46.09\00:47:48.80
And so these kids,
00:47:48.83\00:47:50.73
these young people
they went and they did this,
00:47:50.77\00:47:53.40
and look, there was
somebody that was stopped
00:47:53.44\00:47:54.94
from even entering
and the church was,
00:47:54.97\00:47:57.17
was now asking her to
come clean their homes,
00:47:57.21\00:47:59.54
and you've
already done something
00:47:59.57\00:48:01.01
without a
system, without a program
00:48:01.04\00:48:02.38
and now that you
know that this works
00:48:02.41\00:48:04.48
and it can happen,
00:48:04.51\00:48:05.85
maybe you'll set
one up, you know.
00:48:05.88\00:48:07.25
Yeah.
00:48:07.28\00:48:08.62
Yeah, so this is the
really center of everything
00:48:08.65\00:48:10.92
that we want to accomplish
and what we've been focusing on
00:48:10.95\00:48:13.59
is getting people praying
00:48:13.62\00:48:15.22
because for me
personally going to Brazil
00:48:15.26\00:48:18.43
and seeing what God did
there and there're stories of,
00:48:18.46\00:48:21.73
you know, people
that tried to rob us
00:48:21.76\00:48:23.37
that we ended up witnessing to,
00:48:23.40\00:48:26.03
praying with people that
00:48:26.07\00:48:27.77
came off the
streets like this...
00:48:27.80\00:48:30.01
Witches.
00:48:30.04\00:48:31.37
Witches, witch doctors...
00:48:31.41\00:48:32.74
Black magic.
00:48:32.77\00:48:34.11
Uh-huh, I mean,
all kinds of stuff,
00:48:34.18\00:48:35.51
how God provided for
us, how he set up, you know,
00:48:35.54\00:48:38.05
some of the opportunities
for us and things like that,
00:48:38.08\00:48:41.78
but to me this is where
God got my attention to say,
00:48:41.82\00:48:46.35
this is the way my
work is supposed to happen.
00:48:46.39\00:48:49.12
You put prayer first
00:48:49.16\00:48:50.96
and you allow me to
be the one going ahead,
00:48:50.99\00:48:53.73
and then you guys
are just running trying
00:48:53.80\00:48:56.93
to keep up with what I'm doing,
00:48:56.97\00:48:58.30
you know, and that's
exactly the way that it was,
00:48:58.33\00:49:00.97
so if there's one thing
00:49:01.00\00:49:02.64
that we want to do as a ministry
00:49:02.67\00:49:04.41
is to get people to
pray for their cities.
00:49:04.44\00:49:06.64
So before we put your
contact information up
00:49:06.71\00:49:08.64
in a couple of minutes,
00:49:08.68\00:49:10.01
how does someone at home
get involved in counteracting?
00:49:10.08\00:49:14.55
Let's say, we're talking
about human trafficking today,
00:49:14.58\00:49:17.02
how does someone at home
00:49:17.05\00:49:18.39
get involved in
counteracting this?
00:49:18.42\00:49:22.42
Everybody asks me that question,
00:49:22.46\00:49:23.79
and they come up and they say,
00:49:23.86\00:49:25.19
"Hey, I saw, I heard
about human trafficking,
00:49:25.23\00:49:27.23
I want to do something
about it, what do I do?"
00:49:27.23\00:49:28.83
And they want a list.
00:49:28.86\00:49:30.30
You know, they want to
say these are the solutions.
00:49:30.37\00:49:32.60
And it took me years to find out
00:49:32.63\00:49:35.47
what that solution is,
00:49:35.50\00:49:36.84
and it's difficult for me
to tell you in five minutes
00:49:36.91\00:49:38.54
that this is the solution,
because you won't believe it
00:49:38.57\00:49:40.58
because you don't have
the experience behind it.
00:49:40.61\00:49:42.71
So if people would believe me
00:49:42.74\00:49:45.21
that honestly
the very first thing
00:49:45.25\00:49:46.92
that you need
to do is to realize
00:49:46.95\00:49:49.72
that it is a spiritual
battle from the get go.
00:49:49.75\00:49:52.42
It is not just organized crime,
00:49:52.45\00:49:54.19
it is actually the plan of Satan
00:49:54.26\00:49:56.73
to enslave humanity
through these many tactics.
00:49:56.76\00:50:00.10
And that you have to grab
a hold of God spiritually.
00:50:00.13\00:50:03.33
Intercessory
prayer is the first thing.
00:50:03.37\00:50:06.20
If you want to ask me
00:50:06.23\00:50:07.60
what is the first practical step
00:50:07.64\00:50:08.97
that I can do to save
somebody from the streets?
00:50:09.00\00:50:10.47
You need to pray for them. Okay.
00:50:10.51\00:50:11.84
You didn't know that they exist,
00:50:11.87\00:50:13.34
but you need to
start praying for them.
00:50:13.38\00:50:14.78
And as you learn more about it,
00:50:14.81\00:50:16.18
as you become more
aware of spiritual warfare,
00:50:16.21\00:50:17.78
God is going to lead you
00:50:17.81\00:50:19.15
in the direction
that you want to go.
00:50:19.18\00:50:20.52
Sure, we can give some guidance
and we're here for that,
00:50:20.58\00:50:23.69
but to give you a step by step,
00:50:23.75\00:50:25.72
it's experience
that's going to lead you
00:50:25.75\00:50:27.66
because fighting is
an experiential thing.
00:50:27.69\00:50:30.49
I can't give you
fighting experience.
00:50:30.53\00:50:32.43
You have to learn how to fight.
00:50:32.46\00:50:33.86
Let me ask you one
more quick question
00:50:33.90\00:50:35.50
before we go to your address.
00:50:35.53\00:50:36.90
If someone is
currently enslaved,
00:50:36.93\00:50:39.63
currently in the
midst of being trafficked,
00:50:39.67\00:50:42.30
how would they get out?
00:50:42.34\00:50:43.67
How would they get
help? Who would they turn to?
00:50:43.74\00:50:45.84
It depends on where they
are, there is a national hotline
00:50:45.87\00:50:49.44
and then, you
know, I know my region,
00:50:49.48\00:50:51.81
I know the numbers in my region.
00:50:51.85\00:50:54.25
I suppose if you're
in a desperate situation
00:50:54.28\00:50:57.32
and you have nowhere
else and you have our number,
00:50:57.35\00:50:59.92
go ahead and contact
us whether through e-mail
00:51:00.06\00:51:02.72
or number or whichever
way that you can, our website,
00:51:02.76\00:51:07.20
and we'll do our
best to connect you.
00:51:07.23\00:51:09.56
You know, we don't know
all of the organizations
00:51:09.60\00:51:11.37
that work around the country,
00:51:11.40\00:51:13.60
but we work with
enough and we can,
00:51:13.64\00:51:15.57
we can find a
way to connect you,
00:51:15.60\00:51:17.21
so we want to make it
as practical as possible.
00:51:17.27\00:51:18.61
Amen, amen. Thank you so much.
00:51:18.64\00:51:20.08
That is good. Wow!
00:51:20.14\00:51:21.84
It's a heavy
program but it's needed,
00:51:21.88\00:51:24.21
and I'm so blessed by
the path God has led you
00:51:24.25\00:51:27.58
on with intercession,
00:51:27.62\00:51:29.25
with interceding
in behalf of those
00:51:29.28\00:51:31.62
who are currently
enslaved by Satan,
00:51:31.65\00:51:33.82
so we want to put up
their contact information.
00:51:33.86\00:51:36.42
If you want to get involved,
00:51:36.46\00:51:38.39
if your heart has been
stirred in any fashion,
00:51:38.43\00:51:40.80
you'll say, I want
them to come to my area
00:51:40.86\00:51:43.16
for training.
00:51:43.20\00:51:44.53
I want to learn
how to do intercession.
00:51:44.57\00:51:46.50
I have finances that I
can use to support this work.
00:51:46.53\00:51:50.24
Here is the way that you
can get in touch with Alex.
00:51:50.27\00:51:52.97
If you would like to learn
more about Crying at the Gates,
00:51:59.01\00:52:02.25
you can do so by
writing to Crying at the Gates,
00:52:02.28\00:52:06.05
PO Box 51,
Jonesville, Michigan 49250.
00:52:06.09\00:52:11.89
That's Crying at the Gates,
00:52:11.93\00:52:13.90
PO Box 51,
Jonesville, Michigan 49250.
00:52:13.93\00:52:19.87
You can also visit them
online at CryingAtTheGates.com.
00:52:19.90\00:52:24.17
That's CryingAtTheGates.com.
00:52:24.21\00:52:27.88
Contact them today,
they'd love to hear from you.
00:52:27.91\00:52:30.81