I want to spend my life 00:00:01.46\00:00:07.54 Mending broken people 00:00:07.57\00:00:12.44 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.47\00:00:18.61 Removing pain 00:00:18.65\00:00:23.62 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.65\00:00:29.92 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.96\00:00:34.50 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.53\00:00:40.20 Mending broken people 00:00:40.24\00:00:45.64 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.67\00:00:51.21 Mending broken people 00:00:51.25\00:00:55.12 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 00:01:08.13\00:01:10.93 We are so glad that you've joined us today. 00:01:10.97\00:01:13.54 As you do each and everyday, 00:01:13.57\00:01:14.97 you may even be driving in your car 00:01:15.00\00:01:17.01 and you can't actually see the video going on right now, 00:01:17.04\00:01:18.87 but thank you for joining us on 3ABN radio. 00:01:18.91\00:01:21.98 But thank you again for your prayers 00:01:22.01\00:01:23.35 and financial support to the ministry of 3ABN. 00:01:23.38\00:01:26.25 Because, of course, we always point to the Lord Jesus Christ 00:01:26.28\00:01:29.32 who's providing for all of our needs, 00:01:29.35\00:01:31.09 but if it weren't for you 00:01:31.12\00:01:32.45 and your financial support to this ministry, 00:01:32.49\00:01:34.79 many souls would not be won to the kingdom. 00:01:34.82\00:01:36.96 So it's a blessing, isn't it, Brian, 00:01:36.99\00:01:38.33 to be part of the ministry of 3ABN? 00:01:38.36\00:01:40.26 I don't have my wife, you are not my wife. 00:01:40.30\00:01:42.36 Jill's not able to be on the set with us today. 00:01:42.40\00:01:44.67 Your wife's not able to be on the set today. 00:01:44.70\00:01:46.57 So, Brian, we're hosting and co-hosting together 00:01:46.60\00:01:49.04 and this is a really special ministry 00:01:49.07\00:01:52.44 that we're gonna be talking about today is Prison Ministry. 00:01:52.47\00:01:54.71 And, of course, Brian is the director, 00:01:54.74\00:01:56.91 of course, of our financial department 00:01:56.95\00:01:58.51 here at 3ABN. 00:01:58.55\00:01:59.88 But he's also involved with 3ABN Prison Ministry. 00:01:59.91\00:02:02.28 We're not talking just about 00:02:02.32\00:02:03.65 3ABN's prison ministry outreach, 00:02:03.69\00:02:05.75 we're talking about Christmas Behind Bars today. 00:02:05.79\00:02:08.69 So for some of you this may be an update 00:02:08.72\00:02:11.59 because you follow Christmas Behind Bars for, 00:02:11.63\00:02:14.20 for many years or for some of you 00:02:14.23\00:02:16.06 this may be the first time 00:02:16.10\00:02:17.97 that you've heard of Christmas Behind Bars. 00:02:18.00\00:02:19.50 So we're gonna be talking with Lemuel 00:02:19.53\00:02:22.04 and a couple of other guests he has. 00:02:22.07\00:02:23.87 This is gonna be a fast-moving program today 00:02:23.91\00:02:26.24 because we have several rolls 00:02:26.27\00:02:27.81 that are just, wow, really powerful. 00:02:27.84\00:02:30.21 We're gonna be switching out guests 00:02:30.25\00:02:32.35 in between somewhere in the middle of this program. 00:02:32.38\00:02:34.28 So it's gonna be a really packed program today. 00:02:34.32\00:02:36.79 We have pictures as well so, 00:02:36.82\00:02:38.15 this is gonna be really fun, Brian. 00:02:38.19\00:02:39.59 Yup, looking forward to it. For sure. 00:02:39.62\00:02:41.79 I have a text here that kind of launch us out. 00:02:41.82\00:02:44.13 Oh, good. 00:02:44.16\00:02:45.49 You know, Peter right after Pentecostal 00:02:45.53\00:02:47.60 delivered a powerful sermon, 00:02:47.63\00:02:50.40 and when he got done the people were, 00:02:50.43\00:02:52.63 this is the Holy Spirit had pricked them 00:02:52.67\00:02:54.94 in their hearts. 00:02:54.97\00:02:56.67 And that says, "Now when they heard this," 00:02:56.71\00:02:59.11 this is Acts 2:37, 00:02:59.14\00:03:01.28 "Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart 00:03:01.31\00:03:03.98 and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, 00:03:04.01\00:03:06.45 Men and brethren, what shall we do?" 00:03:06.48\00:03:08.42 "What shall we do?" 00:03:08.45\00:03:09.95 And Peter answered them, "Repent and be baptized." 00:03:09.98\00:03:14.06 Amen. 00:03:14.09\00:03:15.42 One of the blessings of prison 00:03:15.46\00:03:17.03 and I say it's a blessing of prison 00:03:17.06\00:03:19.33 is it gives individuals a timeout 00:03:19.36\00:03:22.96 and during that timeout 00:03:23.00\00:03:24.33 is when the Holy Spirit pricks them 00:03:24.37\00:03:26.47 in their conscience, 00:03:26.50\00:03:27.84 no more do they have the alcohol, the drugs, 00:03:27.87\00:03:30.17 or the other addictions, 00:03:30.21\00:03:32.41 you know, they have been put a little bit out of their life 00:03:32.44\00:03:35.98 and the control has come back to their life 00:03:36.01\00:03:37.91 in a prison setting 00:03:37.95\00:03:39.71 and the Holy Spirit uses that time to prick them. 00:03:39.75\00:03:42.75 And so it, you know, tells them about 00:03:42.78\00:03:44.95 what the issues are, and then, their response is, 00:03:44.99\00:03:47.76 Lord, what shall we do, what can I do, 00:03:47.79\00:03:50.73 I know I want something different, what? 00:03:50.76\00:03:52.89 And henceforth God brings in ministries like 00:03:52.93\00:03:56.33 Christmas Behind Bars to bring a message to all of us. 00:03:56.36\00:03:59.67 No, you're absolutely right. 00:03:59.70\00:04:01.20 And we want to welcome you, Lemuel, 00:04:01.24\00:04:02.90 I know you are the director, president, I don't know, 00:04:02.94\00:04:05.07 I know titles, you always shy away from those, 00:04:05.11\00:04:07.64 but you are the director of Christmas Behind Bars, 00:04:07.68\00:04:10.81 and I know that we got a little box here 00:04:10.85\00:04:13.28 that's in between us here, 00:04:13.31\00:04:15.12 and it says Lost and Found on it. 00:04:15.15\00:04:17.25 I know that's the key thing for you with prison ministry 00:04:17.29\00:04:19.49 you've sort of set that as a theme 00:04:19.52\00:04:20.89 even for today's program as lost and found. 00:04:20.92\00:04:23.09 But, Lemuel, welcome, 00:04:23.12\00:04:24.86 we've got couple of other guests with us. 00:04:24.89\00:04:27.40 We have Renita, I think is it Kropf, 00:04:27.43\00:04:30.27 and your husband Amos, we're glad that you are here. 00:04:30.30\00:04:32.53 We're gonna package your story in a little bit. 00:04:32.57\00:04:35.57 But, Lemuel, for the first time viewer 00:04:35.60\00:04:37.21 that says oh, 00:04:37.24\00:04:38.57 what is Christmas Behind Bars? 00:04:38.61\00:04:39.94 Sounds great. 00:04:39.97\00:04:41.31 I know what Christmas is, behind bars, 00:04:41.34\00:04:42.88 something with prison. 00:04:42.91\00:04:44.25 So, Lemuel, just kind of unpackaged, 00:04:44.28\00:04:45.88 give it a brief description. 00:04:45.91\00:04:47.25 Christmas Behind Bars 00:04:47.28\00:04:48.62 is one of the actual loneliest times 00:04:48.65\00:04:50.85 for ones persons of incarceration 00:04:50.89\00:04:52.82 so there you are the holidays are come and go. 00:04:52.85\00:04:55.39 But Christmas you're just you're lonely. 00:04:55.42\00:04:57.69 And so the meaning of Christmas Behind Bars 00:04:57.73\00:04:59.46 is sharing the gospel, 365 days a year with those folk 00:04:59.49\00:05:02.60 that are in prison. 00:05:02.63\00:05:03.97 Brian said that when you put folk in prison 00:05:04.00\00:05:06.17 you kind of get a timeout. 00:05:06.20\00:05:07.84 I told my wife 00:05:07.87\00:05:09.20 basically the same thing about a year ago. 00:05:09.24\00:05:10.57 We're on our way to supermax prison 00:05:10.61\00:05:13.11 and it was early in the morning, 00:05:13.14\00:05:14.48 and I said, honey, I believe 00:05:14.51\00:05:16.44 that this is one of the last reachable people groups 00:05:16.48\00:05:19.21 in the United States of America because they want change. 00:05:19.25\00:05:22.08 They've tried to change, and they feel like a failure 00:05:22.12\00:05:24.05 so they feel lost. 00:05:24.09\00:05:25.62 Lost and found box, 00:05:25.65\00:05:26.99 what do you normally find in a lost and found box? 00:05:27.02\00:05:28.62 What would you say? 00:05:28.66\00:05:30.66 You might find a watch. 00:05:30.69\00:05:32.63 No watch, what about cell phone? 00:05:32.66\00:05:34.36 Yes. Cell phone. 00:05:34.40\00:05:35.73 May be a pen? A pen. 00:05:35.76\00:05:37.10 We got a pen, car keys, loss and found box. 00:05:37.13\00:05:38.77 Yeah, yeah. Glasses. 00:05:38.80\00:05:40.44 Glasses, glasses. What about $100 bills? 00:05:40.47\00:05:43.71 Once in a while you do find $100 bill. 00:05:43.74\00:05:47.38 We'll donate it to Christmas Behind Bars. 00:05:47.41\00:05:48.98 Amen. 00:05:49.01\00:05:50.35 So lost and found box, stuff is lost 00:05:50.38\00:05:52.81 and people are seeking to find their lost things. 00:05:52.85\00:05:54.32 Right. 00:05:54.35\00:05:55.68 Jesus is seeking to find the lost. 00:05:55.72\00:05:57.25 Amen, the Good Shepherd. 00:05:57.29\00:05:58.75 And so when you are in prison, you're either lost 00:05:58.79\00:06:01.66 or you're found. 00:06:01.69\00:06:03.02 And so Christmas Behind Bars we wanted to be a ministry 00:06:03.06\00:06:06.53 to bring hope through Christ to those that are lost. 00:06:06.56\00:06:10.13 If they are found and they already know Jesus, 00:06:10.17\00:06:12.47 then we want to bring them inspiration, 00:06:12.50\00:06:14.20 and encouragement, and hope. 00:06:14.24\00:06:16.00 And that's were people like Amos and his family 00:06:16.04\00:06:19.04 and different people come into sing, 00:06:19.07\00:06:20.44 make cards and things like that. 00:06:20.48\00:06:22.24 Why don't we go to the warehouse quick 00:06:22.28\00:06:23.71 before we meet our guest? 00:06:23.75\00:06:25.25 Okay. Okay. 00:06:25.28\00:06:27.42 I have some pictures here. 00:06:27.45\00:06:29.48 Christmas Behind Bars is a non-for-profit 00:06:29.52\00:06:31.45 outreach ministry 00:06:31.49\00:06:32.82 and it started about 20 years ago. 00:06:32.85\00:06:34.96 And we have a warehouse, it's been donated, 00:06:34.99\00:06:36.86 we have a truck. 00:06:36.89\00:06:38.86 We have some different things here that, 00:06:38.89\00:06:41.30 the Lord has worked it out, 00:06:41.33\00:06:42.66 it's a borrowed truck, it's not our truck. 00:06:42.70\00:06:44.03 This is at your warehouse? 00:06:44.07\00:06:45.40 This is at the warehouse, yes, in Bluffton, Indiana, 00:06:45.43\00:06:47.14 Central Indiana. 00:06:47.17\00:06:48.67 Nice truck, the trailer, let's go inside the warehouse. 00:06:48.70\00:06:52.71 The next picture here is the trailer 00:06:52.74\00:06:54.84 that you just saw outside but it has a problem. 00:06:54.88\00:06:57.25 It leaks. 00:06:57.28\00:06:58.61 People have donated it 00:06:58.65\00:06:59.98 but we actually need a new trailer, 00:07:00.02\00:07:01.35 we don't want our packages to get wet. 00:07:01.38\00:07:04.15 So we'll go to the next picture here. 00:07:04.19\00:07:06.25 This is my wife in the semi trailer. 00:07:06.29\00:07:08.59 And people have sponsored Bibles, 00:07:08.62\00:07:10.19 we need Bibles to give to the prisoners. 00:07:10.23\00:07:11.96 And we want to say thank you for your sponsorship, 00:07:11.99\00:07:14.26 but certainly we don't want them to get wet. 00:07:14.30\00:07:16.43 In this black bags, in this semi trailer 00:07:16.46\00:07:18.40 are gift packages 00:07:18.43\00:07:19.77 that have been put together for inmates across the country. 00:07:19.80\00:07:22.70 So it's just pretty amazing 00:07:22.74\00:07:24.07 how the Lord as worked this whole thing out. 00:07:24.11\00:07:26.11 This next picture here is actually Donna my wife 00:07:26.14\00:07:29.14 in front of 2,000 packages 00:07:29.18\00:07:31.15 that have been made specifically for Florida. 00:07:31.18\00:07:33.95 They only allow them to have hygiene items 00:07:33.98\00:07:36.69 but also the devotional material 00:07:36.72\00:07:38.85 that's the ingredient, 00:07:38.89\00:07:40.76 so whether it's Ramen noodles, cookies, snacks, and chips 00:07:40.79\00:07:43.29 or whether it's hygiene 00:07:43.32\00:07:44.66 and the devotional materials so that's a great blessing, 00:07:44.69\00:07:46.93 and we appreciate the sponsors 00:07:46.96\00:07:48.43 that have donated those materials. 00:07:48.46\00:07:50.17 Again here's a semi truck, 00:07:50.20\00:07:52.33 I got my CDL license about a year ago, 00:07:52.37\00:07:54.87 never dreamed possible with a third grade education 00:07:54.90\00:07:57.61 I could study or pass any kind of test. 00:07:57.64\00:07:59.77 So that's a great blessing to have, 00:07:59.81\00:08:01.18 have that piece of equipment. 00:08:01.21\00:08:02.58 Nate, great blessing young man comes in everyday, 00:08:02.61\00:08:05.08 volunteers his time, works at the warehouse, 00:08:05.11\00:08:07.75 drives fork truck and some other things. 00:08:07.78\00:08:10.25 He's one of the few that have a driver's license. 00:08:10.29\00:08:12.82 There's toilets to clean, sinks to scrub, 00:08:12.85\00:08:14.76 and so there's lot of things 00:08:14.79\00:08:16.19 that go on day-to-day at the warehouse 00:08:16.22\00:08:17.63 to make the prison business possible. 00:08:17.66\00:08:20.60 This is really interesting, you're gonna meet Tyler here 00:08:20.63\00:08:22.76 in the next segment of this program. 00:08:22.80\00:08:24.67 Tyler is no longer on the wrong side of the law. 00:08:24.70\00:08:27.17 Here he is standing next to law enforcement officer, 00:08:27.20\00:08:29.80 but he'll be here little bit later so stay tuned. 00:08:29.84\00:08:32.84 Tyler's actually ministering at the warehouse to some lady 00:08:32.87\00:08:35.74 that got out of prison, 00:08:35.78\00:08:37.11 six months early addicted to meth, 00:08:37.15\00:08:39.38 have a lot of problems, 00:08:39.41\00:08:40.75 but she has community service for 20 hours a week. 00:08:40.78\00:08:43.85 So she comes in, Tyler had the opportunity 00:08:43.89\00:08:45.75 to minister to her, 00:08:45.79\00:08:47.42 before we came to the program today. 00:08:47.46\00:08:50.16 There he is, there by the truck. 00:08:50.19\00:08:53.09 I hope he'll stay and continue to help us 00:08:53.13\00:08:55.06 at the warehouse. 00:08:55.10\00:08:56.43 So it's great blessing. 00:08:56.46\00:08:57.80 He actually was in prison and received the package. 00:08:57.83\00:09:00.37 Craig has a CDL license, he comes in regular basis to, 00:09:00.40\00:09:05.07 make deliveries for us and picks up 00:09:05.11\00:09:06.54 and so the Lord has just brought 00:09:06.57\00:09:08.34 a multitude of volunteers together 00:09:08.38\00:09:10.55 to bring hope to the prisoners, 00:09:10.58\00:09:11.91 young and old alike, it's a great blessing. 00:09:11.95\00:09:13.88 Yeah, amen. That's amazing so. 00:09:13.92\00:09:15.82 So how long has 00:09:15.85\00:09:17.19 Christmas Behind Bars been in existence? 00:09:17.22\00:09:18.55 It's started about 20 years ago with one county jail, 00:09:18.59\00:09:21.16 and then it has continued to grow. 00:09:21.19\00:09:23.26 And now it's in multitude of states 00:09:23.29\00:09:25.29 and that's kind of where Amos comes in, 00:09:25.33\00:09:27.63 to bring packages and hope, the love of Christ. 00:09:27.66\00:09:29.86 You know, what I think is really neat, Brian, is, 00:09:29.90\00:09:31.80 you know, we participated at our local church 00:09:31.83\00:09:34.10 at Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventist church, 00:09:34.14\00:09:35.47 you saw all of those big black plastic bags 00:09:35.50\00:09:38.67 and inside of those are all kinds of smaller little bags 00:09:38.71\00:09:41.24 and inside those bags, Brian, what are in those bags? 00:09:41.28\00:09:43.41 In those little paper bags? 00:09:43.45\00:09:45.68 Yeah, for us there were paper bags. 00:09:45.71\00:09:47.98 Yeah, that's where the hygiene or the snacks, 00:09:48.02\00:09:51.32 but also the real nourishment which was a spiritual food 00:09:51.35\00:09:54.56 and we get to gather usually once or twice a year. 00:09:54.59\00:09:58.63 And Lemuel brings the product and items down 00:09:58.66\00:10:02.53 and we put in our gym, make assembly lines 00:10:02.56\00:10:05.10 and Sabbath afternoon church comes out 00:10:05.13\00:10:07.80 and we package those gift bags for our local prisons here. 00:10:07.84\00:10:11.97 It's really fun. 00:10:12.01\00:10:13.34 I'd like to say something, 00:10:13.38\00:10:14.71 if anybody be interested in having Christmas Behind Bars 00:10:14.74\00:10:16.95 to come to their state, 00:10:16.98\00:10:18.31 we'd love to bring product and get it organized 00:10:18.35\00:10:20.72 and maybe visit a prison. 00:10:20.75\00:10:22.08 So if anybody is involved in prisons already, 00:10:22.12\00:10:24.75 prison ministry, we'd like to help 00:10:24.79\00:10:26.59 because the beauty of Christmas Behind Bars 00:10:26.62\00:10:28.22 is there is many prison ministries that go in 00:10:28.26\00:10:31.43 but you only get to minister 00:10:31.46\00:10:32.79 to the 18, 20, 30, 50, may be a 100 00:10:32.83\00:10:35.40 out of the 2,000 inmates that come out. 00:10:35.43\00:10:37.37 But with Christmas Behind Bars, 00:10:37.40\00:10:38.73 every inmate receive the package, 00:10:38.77\00:10:40.54 Muslim, atheist, Hindu, non-believer, a Christian, 00:10:40.57\00:10:43.71 every inmate receives the package 00:10:43.74\00:10:45.54 and that's the beauty 00:10:45.57\00:10:46.91 and that's what sets Christmas Behind Bars aside. 00:10:46.94\00:10:48.31 You know, I think the key part too, Brian, 00:10:48.34\00:10:49.74 as you mentioned and you too, Lemuel, 00:10:49.78\00:10:51.21 is that in there is the spiritual pamphlets, books 00:10:51.25\00:10:55.02 but there's also a card and that's critical too, 00:10:55.05\00:10:57.65 because it's just not okay, now I'm blessed, 00:10:57.69\00:11:00.26 now what do I do. 00:11:00.29\00:11:01.62 There is actually contact card inside of each package 00:11:01.66\00:11:05.53 and that goes back to Christmas Behind Bars. 00:11:05.56\00:11:07.40 And then Donna opens everyone of them 00:11:07.43\00:11:09.13 and she sends out all the different book requests, 00:11:09.16\00:11:11.43 Bible study offers, 3ABN has one in there, 00:11:11.47\00:11:13.80 so the inmates can go on and start studying 00:11:13.84\00:11:15.60 and learning, so that's a great blessing. 00:11:15.64\00:11:17.74 We always know when Lemuel's hit a new prison. 00:11:17.77\00:11:21.01 Our mail volume increases all of a sudden 00:11:21.04\00:11:24.41 from one particular spot. 00:11:24.45\00:11:26.72 So they are sending them in? 00:11:26.75\00:11:28.08 Yeah, they are. Yeah, we know that so. 00:11:28.12\00:11:29.78 That's amazing. Yeah. 00:11:29.82\00:11:31.15 Yeah, it's tremendously blessed, 00:11:31.19\00:11:32.52 it is a real blessing, 00:11:32.55\00:11:33.89 I know that just recently 00:11:33.92\00:11:35.89 Jill and I and, you and your wife, 00:11:35.92\00:11:38.53 and your wife and see 00:11:38.56\00:11:41.10 who else was in that group was there others 00:11:41.13\00:11:43.60 that went with us on there, anyway there is a whole group 00:11:43.63\00:11:45.27 that went North. 00:11:45.30\00:11:46.63 I have had the opportunity of helping to package 00:11:46.67\00:11:49.84 some of this bags, oh, number of years ago. 00:11:49.87\00:11:52.51 But actually get to go in with Christmas Behind Bars, 00:11:52.54\00:11:55.34 wow, I caught the bug and it's not the flew bug. 00:11:55.38\00:11:59.01 It's prison ministry brings, that such a thing 00:11:59.05\00:12:01.65 and hopefully it's contagious. 00:12:01.68\00:12:03.28 What a tremendous opportunity to go into this women's prison 00:12:03.32\00:12:07.02 and actually participate. 00:12:07.06\00:12:08.62 Thank you for the invitation. 00:12:08.66\00:12:09.99 Thank you too, Brian, to actually hand them out 00:12:10.03\00:12:12.53 and to touch the inmates one-on-one. 00:12:12.56\00:12:15.56 That is a totally new experience 00:12:15.60\00:12:18.13 and totally it has changed my life forever 00:12:18.17\00:12:20.04 and wow, very, very blessed. 00:12:20.07\00:12:22.34 Well, the Lord has blessed that way 00:12:22.37\00:12:23.94 to where when people volunteer and share. 00:12:23.97\00:12:26.68 They're able to share blessing by God's grace 00:12:26.71\00:12:29.08 but then we're blessed by it as well. 00:12:29.11\00:12:31.05 And we just want to stop for a moment, 00:12:31.08\00:12:32.41 we want to send a shout out to all the inmates 00:12:32.45\00:12:34.68 wherever they are, watching this program. 00:12:34.72\00:12:36.58 And let them know if they feel lost, 00:12:36.62\00:12:38.49 Jesus is the answer. 00:12:38.52\00:12:39.92 This weekend we're at a prison and this man, he said, 00:12:39.95\00:12:42.36 do you think if I would pray that Jesus would hear me 00:12:42.39\00:12:45.06 and forgive me. 00:12:45.09\00:12:46.43 And I said, absolutely, so that's a great blessing. 00:12:46.46\00:12:48.43 So we want to say hello to all of those watching. 00:12:48.46\00:12:49.90 Amen. 00:12:49.93\00:12:51.27 Well, Lemuel, you brought two guests 00:12:51.30\00:12:52.83 Amos and his wife Renita who're with us today. 00:12:52.87\00:12:57.04 And you folk are from the Amish Mennonite community? 00:12:57.07\00:13:01.38 Right. 00:13:01.41\00:13:02.74 You know, there is one thing, a few months ago, 00:13:02.78\00:13:05.91 number of months ago now, 00:13:05.95\00:13:07.45 I had a chance to go with Lemuel to Arkansas. 00:13:07.48\00:13:10.72 Is that home territory for you, folks? 00:13:10.75\00:13:12.22 Amen. Amen. 00:13:12.25\00:13:13.59 I spent 40 years there so kind of our home state. 00:13:13.62\00:13:16.69 Yeah. 00:13:16.73\00:13:18.06 And, Lemuel, and myself and then, 00:13:18.09\00:13:23.77 three of your volunteers, 00:13:23.80\00:13:27.70 your people came and joined, or we joined with them, 00:13:27.74\00:13:31.84 put it that way, to do this Christmas Behind Bars 00:13:31.87\00:13:36.21 event in ministry. 00:13:36.24\00:13:37.91 Yeah, it's truly a blessing 00:13:37.95\00:13:39.28 when people from various beliefs 00:13:39.31\00:13:41.72 and groups get together, 00:13:41.75\00:13:43.65 you know, the Holy Spirit is there 00:13:43.69\00:13:45.05 and just, I've heard it numerous times 00:13:45.09\00:13:47.96 like people get together 00:13:47.99\00:13:49.92 and just like they can feel the presence of God. 00:13:49.96\00:13:53.73 It says my prayer will go with you. 00:13:53.76\00:13:56.16 Yeah, amen. 00:13:56.20\00:13:57.63 You know, I'm gonna say something 00:13:57.67\00:13:59.33 and I hope our viewers don't take this wrong, 00:13:59.37\00:14:03.00 but often times our teachings and our theology 00:14:03.04\00:14:08.51 tend to separate us or divide us. 00:14:08.54\00:14:10.21 Amen. 00:14:10.25\00:14:11.78 And, I'm a firm believer that you have to have truthful, 00:14:11.81\00:14:17.32 honest, Bible based teachings, that's important. 00:14:17.35\00:14:22.66 But when Jesus sits on the throne of His glory, 00:14:22.69\00:14:27.90 Matthew 25, and He calls the nations before Him. 00:14:27.93\00:14:32.70 And He starts dividing the sheep 00:14:32.73\00:14:34.64 from the goats, okay. 00:14:34.67\00:14:36.77 What makes the big divide? 00:14:36.81\00:14:39.27 He doesn't question them on their teachings, 00:14:39.31\00:14:42.11 false teachings, wrong teachings, 00:14:42.14\00:14:43.68 were they were mistaken on teachings. 00:14:43.71\00:14:45.11 Right. 00:14:45.15\00:14:46.82 What He questioned them on 00:14:46.85\00:14:48.58 is their loving outreach to each other. 00:14:48.62\00:14:55.12 You know, I was in prison and you visited me. 00:14:55.16\00:14:57.79 I was naked and you clothed me. 00:14:57.83\00:15:00.33 I was hungry and you fed me, okay. 00:15:00.36\00:15:02.90 Those were the things he questioned them 00:15:02.93\00:15:04.63 and then judged them on. 00:15:04.67\00:15:06.00 Not, oh, did you have this right? 00:15:06.03\00:15:07.90 No, you didn't have it right, so you got to go 00:15:07.94\00:15:09.90 and you got to write but so you're a sheep. 00:15:09.94\00:15:11.74 Amen. 00:15:11.77\00:15:13.11 No, it was that, you know, that's interesting. 00:15:13.14\00:15:14.48 You know what I love about that scripture is, he says, 00:15:14.51\00:15:17.51 as you done it unto the least of this, my brethren, 00:15:17.55\00:15:21.85 so Jesus equates Himself with the least of this 00:15:21.88\00:15:24.32 by His standards 00:15:24.35\00:15:26.39 And you have a personal reason 00:15:26.42\00:15:27.89 or how we got connected 00:15:27.92\00:15:29.26 with prison ministries a tragedy. 00:15:29.29\00:15:30.63 Yeah, it was really a tragedy and '09 her brother, 00:15:30.66\00:15:35.13 Renita's brother who had a lost life, 00:15:35.16\00:15:39.07 you could be in religion and still be lost. 00:15:39.10\00:15:42.07 He was a member of the church but through that, through the, 00:15:42.10\00:15:45.64 I call it the enemy 00:15:45.67\00:15:47.01 'cause the enemy comes to steal, 00:15:47.04\00:15:48.84 kill, and destroy. 00:15:48.88\00:15:50.21 That's right. 00:15:50.25\00:15:51.58 And he destroyed that family's life 00:15:51.61\00:15:52.95 and got them in a downward path, 00:15:52.98\00:15:54.32 but I believe it was her brother 00:15:54.35\00:15:56.69 heard Lemuel talk on one of the shows 00:15:56.72\00:15:58.89 and so when we had a family member incarcerated, 00:15:58.92\00:16:02.72 it was like a death in our family, 00:16:02.76\00:16:04.23 but we didn't know what to do. 00:16:04.26\00:16:06.26 And so we've heard about Christmas Behind Bars 00:16:06.29\00:16:08.80 and gave Lemuel a call, he come down and it was just, 00:16:08.83\00:16:13.23 we was blast as much as maybe our brother-in-law was, 00:16:13.27\00:16:17.97 our brother in prison, you know, 00:16:18.01\00:16:19.87 and through that outreach we're going to numerous prisons 00:16:19.91\00:16:23.55 and still do to members of our, not members of our family 00:16:23.58\00:16:27.72 but people that have grown to be in our family of God 00:16:27.75\00:16:31.19 that we treasure and put a lot of value in that. 00:16:31.22\00:16:36.46 So, Renita, so you go in too? 00:16:36.49\00:16:38.23 Yes, I do if I can. 00:16:38.26\00:16:40.20 We have small children right now 00:16:40.23\00:16:42.16 so I can't every time, but I miss it. 00:16:42.20\00:16:45.40 I mean... It's a blessing, isn't it? 00:16:45.43\00:16:47.30 We get a blessing out of it, I mean, 00:16:47.34\00:16:50.64 when my brother was incarcerated 00:16:50.67\00:16:52.94 it was a tragedy to our family. 00:16:52.97\00:16:57.21 His wife lost her baby in a month, 00:16:57.25\00:16:59.81 and a couple months later my mom had a heart attack, 00:16:59.85\00:17:03.12 and it was devastating. 00:17:03.15\00:17:05.55 And if it wasn't for Christmas Behind Bars 00:17:05.59\00:17:08.56 and brother Lemuel, I don't know 00:17:08.59\00:17:09.92 how we would have made it. 00:17:09.96\00:17:12.13 But he came down, he was a blessing, 00:17:12.16\00:17:15.73 but, you know, it was, the whole thing 00:17:15.76\00:17:18.73 the tragedy it was turned into a blessing. 00:17:18.77\00:17:22.37 And I like that verse in Isaiah 61:1, 00:17:22.40\00:17:25.47 it's one of my favorite verses where God says, 00:17:25.51\00:17:28.64 "He turns the ashes into beauty." 00:17:28.68\00:17:32.05 Yeah. Yeah. 00:17:32.08\00:17:33.58 And, you know, I never, I thought, you know, God, why? 00:17:33.62\00:17:36.45 Why did you let this happen to us, 00:17:36.48\00:17:38.65 I mean, you know, I never expected it to happen. 00:17:38.69\00:17:41.49 You worry about lot of things 00:17:41.52\00:17:42.92 but what you don't worry about happens. 00:17:42.96\00:17:45.79 But he turned something awful into blessing, 00:17:45.83\00:17:50.47 into something beautiful because now we go in there 00:17:50.50\00:17:52.90 and I mean, I received a probably more of a blessing 00:17:52.93\00:17:57.21 then even the prisoners do. 00:17:57.24\00:17:58.57 I mean, I heard some of those prisoners pray, 00:17:58.61\00:18:02.24 they pray out of their sincere heart, 00:18:02.28\00:18:04.81 I mean, it's awesome how they pray 00:18:04.85\00:18:07.45 and it teaches me a lesson, you know. 00:18:07.48\00:18:10.45 Had the same experience, we got a phone call one evening 00:18:10.49\00:18:14.22 that change the course of our life. 00:18:14.26\00:18:16.26 Phone call told us that our son was arrested 00:18:16.29\00:18:18.83 and facing charges of murder, 00:18:18.86\00:18:22.43 and anyway he's incarcerated today 00:18:22.46\00:18:27.04 and been for 6 or 7 years and facing 50 years, you know. 00:18:27.07\00:18:31.77 So I, as you were sharing, I know from personal experience 00:18:31.81\00:18:37.61 that shock, that impact, 00:18:37.65\00:18:41.02 but being able to go in and minister 00:18:41.05\00:18:43.12 has brought healing to our own hearts. 00:18:43.15\00:18:44.49 Oh, definitely it does. 00:18:44.52\00:18:45.95 And I would guess to your hearts too. 00:18:45.99\00:18:48.59 Prison isn't that, you can find God, 00:18:48.62\00:18:50.63 you can be free indeed, 00:18:50.66\00:18:52.99 as many people are in the... 00:18:53.03\00:18:54.86 maybe in the outside world I know are more incarcerated, 00:18:54.90\00:18:57.73 more in prison than those that... 00:18:57.77\00:19:01.04 God isn't a finder for prison wall. 00:19:01.07\00:19:04.74 And I think the package is, I just like to think 00:19:04.77\00:19:07.68 everyone is packages of love. 00:19:07.71\00:19:10.05 Some are little, some are big, 00:19:10.08\00:19:11.41 and we as humans we like the big ones 00:19:11.45\00:19:13.95 but it's something about it 00:19:13.98\00:19:15.78 and I like that passage you had that 00:19:15.82\00:19:18.22 now both groups said they did something 00:19:18.25\00:19:21.49 but one didn't have love. 00:19:21.52\00:19:22.92 It says, Lord, did we not go. 00:19:22.96\00:19:25.06 He says, no, I never knew you. Yeah. 00:19:25.09\00:19:27.20 It's kind of like the saying, 00:19:27.23\00:19:29.16 people don't care how much you know 00:19:29.20\00:19:31.43 until they'd know how much you care. 00:19:31.47\00:19:33.37 Yeah, that is so true. 00:19:33.40\00:19:34.74 That is very powerful. 00:19:34.77\00:19:36.10 I'd like to say something here. 00:19:36.14\00:19:37.97 This couple not only has a love for their brother 00:19:38.01\00:19:41.18 because her brother was transferred to other prisons 00:19:41.21\00:19:43.58 throughout the state, 00:19:43.61\00:19:44.95 but they kept sponsoring financially 00:19:44.98\00:19:47.35 and coming with their group 00:19:47.38\00:19:48.72 to sing to other people's brothers or children. 00:19:48.75\00:19:51.65 So even though their brother was transferred, 00:19:51.69\00:19:54.39 they still continue to go to those other prisons, 00:19:54.42\00:19:56.52 so that's beautiful. 00:19:56.56\00:19:57.89 Well, it just like you said. 00:19:57.93\00:19:59.26 It's a bug, I mean you catch it and you can't get rid of it. 00:19:59.29\00:20:02.26 That's right, it's a good thing. 00:20:02.30\00:20:03.80 It's a good bug. It's a good bug. 00:20:03.83\00:20:05.33 Yeah. 00:20:05.37\00:20:06.70 But the experience that I had going to Arkansas, 00:20:06.74\00:20:09.47 you know, and joining with your folk there. 00:20:09.50\00:20:12.54 Yeah, it just showed me how the love of God, 00:20:12.57\00:20:16.81 so rich and pure, you know, it unites. 00:20:16.85\00:20:19.95 It did. 00:20:19.98\00:20:21.38 Mission, helping others 00:20:21.42\00:20:23.45 who are hurting unite us, you know. 00:20:23.49\00:20:26.02 Maybe there're doctrinal differences 00:20:26.05\00:20:28.89 but, boy, when you... 00:20:28.92\00:20:30.26 We serve one God. 00:20:30.29\00:20:31.63 When you serve one God 00:20:31.66\00:20:32.99 and you are going in to bless others 00:20:33.03\00:20:34.70 who are hurting, you know, and need you it unites us, 00:20:34.73\00:20:39.03 it was such a sweet fellowship to be there that day. 00:20:39.07\00:20:43.30 I joined the choir, 00:20:43.34\00:20:44.97 I'm not necessarily noted 00:20:45.01\00:20:47.11 to be greatest singer in the world, 00:20:47.14\00:20:49.51 but I joined the choir and we sang, 00:20:49.54\00:20:51.91 and we shared our testimony, 00:20:51.95\00:20:53.88 and gave the gifts and... 00:20:53.92\00:20:56.28 You know, the love of God touches all people 00:20:56.32\00:20:59.15 because there was a Muslim man 00:20:59.19\00:21:00.52 in one of the prisons we were at 00:21:00.56\00:21:01.99 and he stood up and he told all the volunteers 00:21:02.02\00:21:04.26 and everybody else, 00:21:04.29\00:21:05.63 he said, I'm a Muslim, 00:21:05.66\00:21:07.00 he said but the words have been conveyed, 00:21:07.03\00:21:08.76 the songs have been sung, he said touched my heart. 00:21:08.80\00:21:11.70 And that's the power of God, so he proclaimed to be a Muslim 00:21:11.73\00:21:13.94 but he said, that he had received something, 00:21:13.97\00:21:16.04 so it's really beautiful. 00:21:16.07\00:21:17.41 So how many are in your group, your prison ministry group? 00:21:17.44\00:21:19.64 You go once a month? 00:21:19.67\00:21:21.01 It varies from time to time we vary from 9 to 30 00:21:21.04\00:21:24.61 and that's the beauty of it. 00:21:24.65\00:21:25.98 All the churches in Arkansas, and Texas, 00:21:26.01\00:21:28.32 and Okalahoma we have a group that don't go again alone 00:21:28.35\00:21:32.55 'cause we want to go with you, 00:21:32.59\00:21:33.92 and so some come on a Sunday morning service 00:21:33.96\00:21:36.99 and some come when we go with the Christmas Behind Bars 00:21:37.03\00:21:40.63 and it is grown from just a little network, 00:21:40.66\00:21:44.20 we have about 50 or 100 group that, you know, 00:21:44.23\00:21:46.50 now we have little text group, and, 00:21:46.53\00:21:48.67 hey, we got a volunteer date coming up, 00:21:48.70\00:21:50.54 we want a help and now we're busy volunteers, 00:21:50.57\00:21:53.64 so not everybody can come every time. 00:21:53.68\00:21:55.91 Sure. 00:21:55.94\00:21:57.28 But you can pray in your sponsorship too 00:21:57.31\00:22:00.32 that the Word of God would go out 00:22:00.35\00:22:02.32 and accomplish the thing that He wants it to prosper in. 00:22:02.35\00:22:06.05 Yeah, you gonna say something, Renita? 00:22:06.09\00:22:07.82 Well, it's just wonderful, I mean, 00:22:07.86\00:22:09.66 the volunteers have no idea how, how the support, 00:22:09.69\00:22:13.76 how big it feels to us, you know even, I mean it. 00:22:13.80\00:22:17.93 I mean, I don't know, it's not, you can't explain it is, 00:22:17.97\00:22:20.94 the support is absolutely phenomenal. 00:22:20.97\00:22:24.51 I mean... 00:22:24.54\00:22:25.87 So, Lemuel, question for you, so you, you know, 00:22:25.91\00:22:27.61 we're looking at those trucks you said, 00:22:27.64\00:22:29.74 I think you said Bluffton, Indiana is where 00:22:29.78\00:22:31.58 Christmas Behind Bars is... 00:22:31.61\00:22:32.95 Central Indiana. 00:22:32.98\00:22:34.32 Yes, it's where it's located, its headquarters. 00:22:34.35\00:22:35.68 So Arkansas is not just next-door, 00:22:35.72\00:22:37.99 so you're taking semis, is that correct, 00:22:38.02\00:22:39.99 or some of your Bosch trucks 00:22:40.02\00:22:41.96 to deliver these goods from your warehouse 00:22:41.99\00:22:44.59 because a lot of the packages I believe are packaged, 00:22:44.63\00:22:47.30 put together in Bluffton, they are loaded into the semis, 00:22:47.33\00:22:50.70 and then you go off to like this prison 00:22:50.73\00:22:53.40 that they are ministering to. 00:22:53.44\00:22:54.94 So to get from there to Arkansas 00:22:54.97\00:22:58.07 and other places too, Brian, right? 00:22:58.11\00:22:59.87 Around the country. Virginia. 00:22:59.91\00:23:01.48 Baltimore, Maryland, South Carolina, Alabama. 00:23:01.51\00:23:04.01 Florida. Florida. 00:23:04.05\00:23:05.38 Costs money, that's what I'm getting that, you know, 00:23:05.41\00:23:07.15 feeling all that. 00:23:07.18\00:23:08.52 So I just want to put this out there, 00:23:08.55\00:23:09.88 get your pencil and pen ready 00:23:09.92\00:23:11.25 because we are gonna show some ways, 00:23:11.29\00:23:12.62 tell you some ways, 00:23:12.65\00:23:13.99 and to give the contact information 00:23:14.02\00:23:15.36 of how you can support Christmas Behind Bars. 00:23:15.39\00:23:17.09 They have some specific needs so keep that handy 00:23:17.13\00:23:19.23 'cause we'll give that to you in here shortly. 00:23:19.26\00:23:21.76 Anything else here, Lemuel, on this, 00:23:21.80\00:23:23.13 I like the lost and found 00:23:23.16\00:23:24.50 because that's really what it's all about, 00:23:24.53\00:23:25.93 isn't it, prison ministry. 00:23:25.97\00:23:27.30 And it's interesting because you have the program 00:23:27.34\00:23:29.20 "Free indeed". 00:23:29.24\00:23:30.57 It's interesting, isn't it, 00:23:30.61\00:23:31.94 how you can be behind bars but yet be free. 00:23:31.97\00:23:34.48 You can be outside of the bars, yet be in prison so to speak. 00:23:34.51\00:23:38.08 Yeah. Amen. 00:23:38.11\00:23:39.45 I would like to say that, I think, Amos, 00:23:39.48\00:23:40.98 what would you say, 00:23:41.02\00:23:42.35 what percent of an inmate population would come out 00:23:42.38\00:23:44.95 when Christmas Behind Bars comes? 00:23:44.99\00:23:46.32 It's voluntary, 00:23:46.35\00:23:47.69 they don't have to come out to hear the message 00:23:47.72\00:23:49.06 or to receive the bag. 00:23:49.09\00:23:50.43 But what percentage would you say come out? 00:23:50.46\00:23:51.79 It's not about a package, you know, 00:23:51.83\00:23:53.63 I don't care how big or little but they here, 00:23:53.66\00:23:56.50 I talked with my brother-in-law last week 00:23:56.53\00:23:58.73 and I ask him little, 00:23:58.77\00:24:00.17 we come some times with that, I said, 00:24:00.20\00:24:02.20 well, do the people still, 00:24:02.24\00:24:03.77 the inmates want Christmas Behind Bars? 00:24:03.81\00:24:05.87 He said, you never have to worry about that, 00:24:05.91\00:24:09.01 they also they wanna know when are they coming. 00:24:09.04\00:24:11.25 When are they coming? 00:24:11.28\00:24:12.61 And, you know, the thing that I like to, Greg, 00:24:12.65\00:24:14.78 join with you is we've tried, you know, 00:24:14.82\00:24:17.72 occasionally just go to Sam's wholesale 00:24:17.75\00:24:19.35 and buy a little, 00:24:19.39\00:24:20.72 but I mean one little package just four little items 00:24:20.76\00:24:24.56 cost a lot of money and the items that he gets, 00:24:24.59\00:24:28.66 you know, he can get big Wal-Mart bag for all that, 00:24:28.70\00:24:31.63 I would even like it, 00:24:31.67\00:24:33.10 you know, lot of time we take it for the staff 00:24:33.13\00:24:35.34 and as the staff does that it has a lot of value there 00:24:35.37\00:24:38.61 that maybe a 2,000-bed prison 00:24:38.64\00:24:41.71 if you go by it would cost $20, 000 that you can, 00:24:41.74\00:24:45.48 I like to think little is much when God is in. 00:24:45.51\00:24:48.65 Amen. 00:24:48.68\00:24:50.02 Yeah, just the lost and the found 00:24:50.05\00:24:51.39 that the $1 can be $100 to someone. 00:24:51.42\00:24:54.32 No, we went to the prison just north here few months ago. 00:24:54.36\00:24:58.76 I think, just about everybody came out, 00:24:58.79\00:25:00.80 didn't they, to receive the package. 00:25:00.83\00:25:02.16 Oh, yeah. 00:25:02.20\00:25:03.53 99%, yeah. 00:25:03.57\00:25:04.90 Yeah, if we're looking at percentage, 00:25:04.93\00:25:06.27 obviously, 99 %. 00:25:06.30\00:25:07.64 It was with Dr. Yvonne, she did some ministry music, 00:25:07.67\00:25:09.17 Jason went, and of course the rest of the team 00:25:09.20\00:25:11.51 and it was really a blessing for sure. 00:25:11.54\00:25:13.91 Amos, you just shared with me earlier 00:25:13.94\00:25:17.21 before we started the program that, 00:25:17.25\00:25:19.61 and Lemuel had said that you are helping to sponsor, 00:25:19.65\00:25:22.42 and sponsor means helping financially. 00:25:22.45\00:25:25.25 And not just in this case prayer, 00:25:25.29\00:25:27.06 but you are actually 00:25:27.09\00:25:28.42 and how the Lord blessed you on that? 00:25:28.46\00:25:29.82 Share a little bit about that? 00:25:29.86\00:25:31.19 Yeah, it was truly a miracle that humbled me 00:25:31.23\00:25:34.00 that I want to give God the glory. 00:25:34.03\00:25:35.63 We had went to little prison called Little Tucker Max, 00:25:35.66\00:25:39.40 there's two prisons but we went to Tucker Max 00:25:39.43\00:25:41.74 and there was about 500 men there mostly, 00:25:41.77\00:25:46.47 a max unit 00:25:46.51\00:25:47.98 but you could feel the spirit of God there, 00:25:48.01\00:25:50.68 I mean, when we arrive, you know, 00:25:50.71\00:25:52.21 we took the packages in, 00:25:52.25\00:25:53.58 and we went and did the program. 00:25:53.62\00:25:55.68 And each inmate got their package 00:25:55.72\00:25:57.39 and that night we had a voluntary church service there. 00:25:57.42\00:26:01.22 It was a little chapel, a lot smaller than this room 00:26:01.26\00:26:03.83 even but it was packed 00:26:03.86\00:26:05.19 and in the end Lemuel asked the prisoners 00:26:05.23\00:26:09.16 that they would share 00:26:09.20\00:26:10.53 what Christmas Behind Bars meant to them. 00:26:10.57\00:26:13.40 But one of the inmates prayed that God would bless us 00:26:13.44\00:26:15.70 tenfold for what our efforts was 00:26:15.74\00:26:18.61 and that night after it was done 00:26:18.64\00:26:20.34 I decided I would donate $3,000. 00:26:20.38\00:26:24.55 Didn't really know if the money was, 00:26:24.58\00:26:26.72 I didn't check my bank account to see 00:26:26.75\00:26:28.52 but I trusted God that it would work 00:26:28.55\00:26:31.62 and get the money. 00:26:31.65\00:26:33.12 So I called my wife, 00:26:33.15\00:26:34.76 she was staying in the family and said, 00:26:34.79\00:26:37.26 did you give the mail today. 00:26:37.29\00:26:38.99 And she said she didn't, so I said, 00:26:39.03\00:26:40.66 well, I'll get it when I get home 00:26:40.70\00:26:42.03 and it's about a three-hour drive. 00:26:42.06\00:26:43.60 And I got home about 12, 12:30 00:26:43.63\00:26:45.50 and just kind of quick glance through the mail. 00:26:45.53\00:26:48.30 I've seen there's one envelope was, you know, 00:26:48.34\00:26:50.31 how you can see when there is a check in it 00:26:50.34\00:26:51.84 so I thought I'd open that check 00:26:51.87\00:26:53.78 and there was a check for over $22,000. 00:26:53.81\00:26:57.48 And I absolutely had no idea. 00:26:57.51\00:26:59.71 That prayer got answered... 00:26:59.75\00:27:01.32 It just humbled me that God had his timing perfect, 00:27:01.35\00:27:05.09 and my verse is prove me here what saith Lord of host, 00:27:05.12\00:27:09.42 see if when I open you the windows of heaven 00:27:09.46\00:27:12.09 and pour you out a blessing, 00:27:12.13\00:27:13.90 that there'd be not room enough 00:27:13.93\00:27:15.26 in my storehouse to contain it. 00:27:15.30\00:27:17.50 And I just give God the glory that 00:27:17.53\00:27:19.80 he act or remembers us poor mortals 00:27:19.83\00:27:24.37 and his timing is perfect. 00:27:24.41\00:27:25.87 I mean, God knows so much more than we do, 00:27:25.91\00:27:28.64 give God the glory. 00:27:28.68\00:27:30.01 The prayer had been answered beforehand 00:27:30.05\00:27:31.88 because this guy had forgot, 00:27:31.91\00:27:33.65 he'd forgot that this person 00:27:33.68\00:27:35.08 everyone owed him money from long time ago 00:27:35.12\00:27:37.35 and that's our prayer today 00:27:37.39\00:27:38.72 that people would see value in this ministry 00:27:38.75\00:27:40.86 and help that may continue to grow, 00:27:40.89\00:27:42.36 we're willing to go. 00:27:42.39\00:27:43.73 Amen. 00:27:43.76\00:27:45.09 Lemuel, I'm just thinking too 00:27:45.13\00:27:46.46 'cause we have a roll we wanna go to but, 00:27:46.49\00:27:47.83 you know, thinking about, you know, 00:27:47.86\00:27:49.20 your experience in prison, you know, and your time. 00:27:49.23\00:27:50.97 When I was in prison? 00:27:51.00\00:27:52.33 When you were in prison, correct. 00:27:52.37\00:27:53.74 And how God has taken you 00:27:53.77\00:27:55.37 to where you are now with this ministry. 00:27:55.40\00:27:56.74 Isn't it amazing, you know, 00:27:56.77\00:27:58.11 to see how God has worked in your life 00:27:58.14\00:27:59.57 to the countless inmates 00:27:59.61\00:28:01.41 that you have reached through this 20 years. 00:28:01.44\00:28:04.15 And I'm just excited about what's in store 00:28:04.18\00:28:06.45 for Christmas Behind Bars, 00:28:06.48\00:28:07.82 but I know there's a video you put together 00:28:07.85\00:28:09.35 with one of our directors here Brad Walker 00:28:09.38\00:28:10.95 and he's been participating in this prison ministry 00:28:10.99\00:28:12.85 for a while too, 00:28:12.89\00:28:14.22 but set this video up for us and then we'll through it. 00:28:14.26\00:28:15.92 Okay, this video is about, well, actually, 00:28:15.96\00:28:19.29 let's just go to inside the prisons, 00:28:19.33\00:28:21.90 it just shows the power of the gospel, 00:28:21.93\00:28:24.67 goes back to the lost and found box, 00:28:24.70\00:28:26.57 folks that are been lost, 00:28:26.60\00:28:28.07 are been found baptisms and lot of things, 00:28:28.10\00:28:30.24 there are testimonies, there are songs. 00:28:30.27\00:28:31.91 So we just thank out all the sponsors 00:28:31.94\00:28:33.61 who helped 3ABN and Christmas Behind Bars. 00:28:33.64\00:28:35.04 Okay. 00:28:35.08\00:28:36.41 And then I know we're gonna switch out 00:28:36.44\00:28:37.78 so we want to thank you, Amos... 00:28:37.81\00:28:39.15 Thank you. 00:28:39.18\00:28:40.52 Thank you. We enjoyed it. 00:28:40.55\00:28:41.88 Thank you for being here and God continue to bless you all 00:28:41.92\00:28:43.25 in your ministry there, 00:28:43.28\00:28:44.62 and it's a blessing to be partnering, 00:28:44.65\00:28:45.99 I know with Christmas Behind Bars 00:28:46.02\00:28:47.36 and with you all, too. 00:28:47.39\00:28:48.72 Same here. 00:28:48.76\00:28:50.09 We pray God will bless 3ABN and Christmas Behind Bars 00:28:50.13\00:28:51.46 as we look at the miracles that God has. 00:28:51.49\00:28:53.93 And, Amos, I just want to say thank you 00:28:53.96\00:28:55.36 'cause you helped us get that semi truck 00:28:55.40\00:28:56.97 and you've helped us diligently, 00:28:57.00\00:28:58.67 you helped us with some of our insurances stuff, 00:28:58.70\00:29:00.97 so just thank you so much, and God bless you. 00:29:01.00\00:29:02.34 You're welcome. 00:29:02.37\00:29:03.71 Thank you for what you did for us 00:29:03.74\00:29:05.14 and our family and for Anthony's family. 00:29:05.17\00:29:07.91 Well, look, how the gift is still giving 00:29:07.94\00:29:09.74 because now you are doing for many other families 00:29:09.78\00:29:11.61 that are incarcerated and so we thank you. 00:29:11.65\00:29:13.42 So God bless you. Praise the Lord. 00:29:13.45\00:29:14.78 All right, so let's go to that video now 00:29:14.82\00:29:16.42 that gives the update of Christmas Behind Bars. 00:29:16.45\00:29:21.29 What inspired you to make that commitment for Christ 00:29:21.32\00:29:23.59 less than a year ago? 00:29:23.63\00:29:26.29 Agape love. 00:29:26.33\00:29:28.16 People that come in here like you 00:29:28.20\00:29:29.66 and you do it out of love, 00:29:29.70\00:29:32.43 unmerited love. 00:29:32.47\00:29:33.80 We don't deserve this from you, 00:29:33.84\00:29:35.17 it's through Jesus Christ you come here 00:29:35.20\00:29:36.81 and you share this agape love with us. 00:29:36.84\00:29:38.91 And it's a treasure that we'll cherish 00:29:38.94\00:29:40.68 for the rest of our lives. 00:29:40.71\00:29:42.04 I can tell you from the years 00:29:45.91\00:29:48.75 that I've had Christmas behind Bars at my facilities. 00:29:48.78\00:29:52.02 It is the biggest program that after you guys roll out, 00:29:52.05\00:29:56.96 the thank you notes come in like wow. 00:29:56.99\00:30:00.40 I mean, hands down. 00:30:00.43\00:30:02.13 I don't get near the thank yous from the offender population. 00:30:02.16\00:30:05.80 Christmas Behind Bars is a wonderful program. 00:30:05.83\00:30:07.80 Finally, hit rock bottom and there was no hope. 00:30:15.18\00:30:17.85 I sat in the cell I'd already see they shaved my head, 00:30:17.88\00:30:21.25 they take away your dignity, 00:30:21.28\00:30:22.62 they give you an orange jumpsuit, 00:30:22.65\00:30:24.19 you go into a cell. 00:30:24.22\00:30:25.85 And the shock of reality setting in that 00:30:25.89\00:30:29.09 this was my life for the next 15 years 00:30:29.12\00:30:31.49 was just overwhelming. 00:30:31.53\00:30:33.16 I heard this hymns and I thought I was in heaven. 00:30:33.19\00:30:36.67 It was beautiful singing, it was a cappella 00:30:36.70\00:30:38.80 and I looked out my window of the cell 00:30:38.83\00:30:42.04 and I saw these group of people 00:30:42.07\00:30:46.17 singing together men and women. 00:30:46.21\00:30:47.74 And then after the singing of a few hymns, 00:30:47.78\00:30:51.51 a speaker came forward and started to speak 00:30:51.55\00:30:53.82 which happened to be Mr. Vega. 00:30:53.85\00:30:56.42 I sat there and the thing that struck me was the message 00:30:56.45\00:31:00.99 and the message was on Jesus. 00:31:01.02\00:31:02.79 The message was on... 00:31:02.82\00:31:05.79 no matter what you've done there is hope. 00:31:05.83\00:31:08.36 I realized at that moment that I had been forgiven, 00:31:08.40\00:31:13.67 that despite all I'd done, 00:31:13.70\00:31:19.47 despite all the hurt I'd caused, 00:31:19.51\00:31:22.41 that Jesus wanted me home. 00:31:22.44\00:31:28.15 We enforce the rules here, we lock people down, 00:31:28.18\00:31:33.72 we discipline people for their actions. 00:31:33.76\00:31:37.59 There are quite a few inmates in our facility, 00:31:37.63\00:31:39.86 they pick up more charges for the bad choices 00:31:39.89\00:31:41.86 they make even after they're incarcerated. 00:31:41.90\00:31:44.70 But Christmas Behind Bars 00:31:44.73\00:31:46.63 brings a certain amount of peace 00:31:46.67\00:31:48.60 and tenderness within this facility, 00:31:48.64\00:31:50.54 for some people for hours, other people for days, 00:31:50.57\00:31:54.78 other people for maybe months or even years, 00:31:54.81\00:31:57.88 and there is no doubt in my mind, 00:31:57.91\00:31:59.85 there are some of those people 00:31:59.88\00:32:01.45 for the rest of their lives will remember the kindness 00:32:01.48\00:32:03.65 that was shown on that day. 00:32:03.69\00:32:05.49 I would have Christmas Behind Bars 00:32:05.52\00:32:07.22 in my facility on a daily program basis, 00:32:07.26\00:32:10.43 if I could get somebody to volunteer and do it. 00:32:10.46\00:32:14.10 For me, just for me, 00:32:14.13\00:32:17.70 just for me! 00:32:17.73\00:32:22.30 This Behind Bars, this was amazing. 00:32:22.34\00:32:24.21 We felt Jesus in here walking around us and, 00:32:24.24\00:32:28.18 God just let's to get right there. 00:32:28.21\00:32:30.31 Every one of us felt it and we... 00:32:30.35\00:32:33.48 I walked into my cell and saw, not because I was sad 00:32:33.52\00:32:36.69 because I felt him and it even felt beautiful. 00:32:36.72\00:32:39.89 And I'm just, I'm just so blessed 00:32:39.92\00:32:42.52 because I could be rotting in a cell and nobody cares, 00:32:42.56\00:32:45.79 and I know that, that's just. 00:32:45.83\00:32:50.77 I'm free to behind bars I mean, 00:32:50.80\00:32:54.04 I'm free and I'm in behind bars 00:32:54.07\00:32:56.00 and that's a beautiful feeling. 00:32:56.04\00:32:57.37 These people don't have to do things that they're doing. 00:33:04.71\00:33:06.35 They're taking time out of their day to come, 00:33:06.38\00:33:08.85 you know, help out strangers, you know, 00:33:08.88\00:33:11.65 to so attentive to people that, you know, 00:33:11.69\00:33:14.56 I kind of feel like we'd have forgotten. 00:33:14.59\00:33:15.99 You know, people look at as, you know, 00:33:16.02\00:33:17.76 they put a tag on us as criminals. 00:33:17.79\00:33:19.76 And, you know, we've done some bad things 00:33:19.79\00:33:21.76 but that doesn't define who we are, 00:33:21.80\00:33:23.90 so for these people to take time out of their day 00:33:23.93\00:33:26.03 and give us a chance, you know, 00:33:26.07\00:33:28.44 I really appreciate it. 00:33:28.47\00:33:29.80 I need Your glory 00:33:47.89\00:33:50.33 Okay. Hey, come out big. 00:33:50.36\00:33:51.89 Take it down, brother. 00:33:51.93\00:33:53.26 I want Your glory 00:33:53.29\00:33:57.73 Less of me and more of You 00:33:57.77\00:34:02.00 Is what I need 00:34:02.04\00:34:07.24 Show me Your glory 00:34:07.28\00:34:11.91 Lord, show me Your power 00:34:11.95\00:34:17.09 Less of me and more of You 00:34:17.12\00:34:21.39 Is what I need 00:34:21.42\00:34:26.23 Yes. 00:34:26.26\00:34:27.60 I need your glory Lord, I need 00:34:27.63\00:34:31.27 I want Your Glory My God, less of me 00:34:31.30\00:34:36.20 Less of me and more of You is what I need 00:34:36.24\00:34:43.45 My God show me Your glory 00:34:43.48\00:34:45.11 Show me Your glory 00:34:45.15\00:34:48.25 Show me Your power, Lord 00:34:48.28\00:34:49.65 Show me Your power 00:34:49.68\00:34:52.45 My God, less of me 00:34:52.49\00:34:54.32 Less of me and more of You 00:34:54.36\00:34:58.33 Is what I need 00:34:58.36\00:35:03.16 So many times I strayed away, rejecting Your love 00:35:03.20\00:35:09.27 And Your warm embrace 00:35:09.30\00:35:11.91 See, I realized 00:35:11.94\00:35:14.08 I need You more and more each day 00:35:14.11\00:35:21.32 I need Your glory I need, yes 00:35:21.35\00:35:25.59 I want Your glory Less of me 00:35:25.62\00:35:30.33 Less of me and more of you is what I need 00:35:30.36\00:35:36.63 Is what I need 00:35:36.67\00:35:38.20 Show me YOUR glory, Lord. 00:35:38.23\00:35:40.24 Show me Your glory 00:35:40.27\00:35:41.97 Show me Your power Show me Your power 00:35:42.00\00:35:45.57 I need less of me Less of me 00:35:45.61\00:35:49.51 Less of me and more of You is what I need 00:35:49.54\00:35:54.85 Is what I need 00:35:54.88\00:35:56.82 So many times I strayed away, rejecting Your love 00:35:56.85\00:36:03.02 And Your warm embrace 00:36:03.06\00:36:05.69 See, I realized 00:36:05.73\00:36:07.53 I need You more and more each day 00:36:07.56\00:36:14.97 More each day 00:36:15.00\00:36:19.11 I need Your glory 00:36:19.14\00:36:22.14 I need, my God I want Your Glory 00:36:22.18\00:36:25.81 Oh, Lord, less of me 00:36:25.85\00:36:27.98 Less of me and more of You is what I need 00:36:28.02\00:36:33.99 Is what I need, yeah. 00:36:34.02\00:36:38.99 Indeed if you feel like I do 00:36:39.03\00:36:42.13 Let Him know that Let Him know that you are hungry for Him 00:36:42.16\00:36:45.67 That you're thirsting for Him 00:36:45.70\00:36:47.70 That you are longing for Him 00:36:47.74\00:36:50.97 My God, lift up your voice and sing 00:36:51.01\00:36:54.21 I need Your glory 00:36:54.24\00:36:58.98 Oh, Lord, I've got to have it, yes. 00:36:59.01\00:37:02.42 Your glory 00:37:02.45\00:37:03.79 Everyday I know, I need, yes, Lord. 00:37:03.82\00:37:06.86 Your glory Oh, Lord 00:37:06.89\00:37:11.69 I need Your glory I need Your love 00:37:11.73\00:37:15.76 Your glory 00:37:15.80\00:37:17.13 I need it every morning, every night 00:37:17.17\00:37:20.17 Your glory Every minute of the day 00:37:20.20\00:37:22.34 I don't think I'm doing right 00:37:22.37\00:37:24.77 Your glory My God, I know. 00:37:24.81\00:37:26.44 Wow! 00:37:26.47\00:37:29.51 I need Your glory To live right 00:37:29.54\00:37:33.72 Your glory To get right 00:37:33.75\00:37:35.62 Your glory To feel right 00:37:35.65\00:37:37.92 Your glory Hanging on me, Lord 00:37:37.95\00:37:40.32 Your Glory Stand and count on me 00:37:40.36\00:37:42.29 Your glory Yeah, yeah 00:37:42.32\00:37:46.83 I need Your glory I need Your glory 00:37:46.86\00:37:51.87 I need Your glory I need 00:37:51.90\00:37:55.37 Your glory I need 00:37:55.40\00:37:57.61 Your glory I need 00:37:57.64\00:38:00.21 Your glory 00:38:00.24\00:38:05.38 My God 00:38:05.41\00:38:07.05 I'm on my knees every night praying for You, Lord 00:38:07.08\00:38:11.15 I know I need You to get me right 00:38:11.19\00:38:15.66 I need, I need 00:38:15.69\00:38:21.76 Show me Your love 00:38:21.80\00:38:24.83 Thank you, Jesus. 00:38:28.54\00:38:29.87 Wow. Amen. 00:38:33.84\00:38:35.18 I tell you Christmas Behind Bars, 00:38:35.21\00:38:36.68 what a ministry. 00:38:36.71\00:38:38.11 And you saw some lot of footage in there. 00:38:38.15\00:38:40.62 You saw some of the assembly lines 00:38:40.65\00:38:41.98 that are putting these packages together, 00:38:42.02\00:38:43.69 baptisms, people coming to the Lord, 00:38:43.72\00:38:46.12 you heard the music, I mean, 00:38:46.15\00:38:48.09 even Behind Bars they form these music groups, 00:38:48.12\00:38:49.62 don't they, Brian? 00:38:49.66\00:38:50.99 Right. Yes. 00:38:51.03\00:38:52.36 Some amazing music that comes from behind the prison bars, 00:38:52.39\00:38:54.23 and what a ministry of Christmas Behind Bars. 00:38:54.26\00:38:55.96 Thank you, Lemuel. Thank you. 00:38:56.00\00:38:57.33 You know, it's all honor and glory goes to Jesus, 00:38:57.37\00:38:59.37 you always tell us that. 00:38:59.40\00:39:00.74 Yeah. 00:39:00.77\00:39:02.10 And so, of course, we've added 00:39:02.14\00:39:03.47 a couple of new people on the set. 00:39:03.51\00:39:04.84 I don't wanna disrespect to you, Lemuel, 00:39:04.87\00:39:06.21 but your better half. 00:39:06.24\00:39:07.58 Yeah. Your dear wife, Donna. 00:39:07.61\00:39:09.68 Donna, it's so good to have you here too. 00:39:09.71\00:39:11.51 Good to be here. 00:39:11.55\00:39:12.88 And I'll tell you, 00:39:12.91\00:39:14.25 you and Lemuel are just a fantastic team 00:39:14.28\00:39:15.98 for Lord Jesus Christ. 00:39:16.02\00:39:17.35 And I believe only in heaven, 00:39:17.39\00:39:18.85 where we truly know that impact, right? 00:39:18.89\00:39:20.62 Amen. 00:39:20.66\00:39:21.99 ..Of Christmas Behind Bars and all these ministries 00:39:22.02\00:39:23.36 and your participation too. 00:39:23.39\00:39:25.03 Thank you so much because of your support, 00:39:25.06\00:39:27.56 I know many of you have been supporting 00:39:27.60\00:39:28.93 Christmas Behind Bars through the years. 00:39:28.96\00:39:30.40 Thank you very much. 00:39:30.43\00:39:31.97 We've also added Tyler Morris. 00:39:32.00\00:39:34.20 We're gonna hear a little bit of your story as well. 00:39:34.24\00:39:37.27 But, Donna, I wanna just go to you, you know, 00:39:37.31\00:39:38.87 'cause your husband of course, 00:39:38.91\00:39:40.24 he's very busy with the Christmas Behind Bars. 00:39:40.28\00:39:42.54 This isn't something you just do at Christmas time. 00:39:42.58\00:39:45.31 No. So it's Christmas Behind Bars. 00:39:45.35\00:39:47.32 It's actually 24 hours a day. 00:39:47.35\00:39:49.88 Did you say 24 hours a day? 00:39:49.92\00:39:51.55 He does find a little time to sleep. 00:39:51.59\00:39:53.96 Basically, that's all day 00:39:53.99\00:39:55.32 'cause there's no more than 24 hours a day. 00:39:55.36\00:39:57.79 So your participation with Christmas Behind Bars, 00:39:57.83\00:40:00.10 I know that Lemuel goes out on the road a lot, you know, 00:40:00.13\00:40:02.56 delivering these packages 00:40:02.60\00:40:03.93 going out ministering to many prisons, 00:40:03.97\00:40:06.37 but I know you get a chance to go, 00:40:06.40\00:40:07.77 you know, sometimes. 00:40:07.80\00:40:09.14 Yes. 00:40:09.17\00:40:10.51 But I know that you're blessed, 00:40:10.54\00:40:11.87 so you can tell us a little bit about that, 00:40:11.91\00:40:13.24 but also when you're staying home, 00:40:13.27\00:40:14.61 you're involved in some office work 00:40:14.64\00:40:15.98 that's very important. 00:40:16.01\00:40:17.35 Tell us a little bit about that? 00:40:17.38\00:40:18.71 Yes, I get to go to the mailbox 00:40:18.75\00:40:20.58 and gather the letters and write to them, 00:40:20.62\00:40:23.45 and there's a couple other people 00:40:23.49\00:40:24.89 that help writing us. 00:40:24.92\00:40:26.25 It's very exciting. 00:40:26.29\00:40:27.62 It's a great blessing. 00:40:27.66\00:40:28.99 It is, isn't it? 00:40:29.02\00:40:30.36 Because then you get to actually, 00:40:30.39\00:40:31.73 you're realizing the impact just a little bit of the impact 00:40:31.76\00:40:33.76 that Christmas Behind Bars... 00:40:33.80\00:40:35.13 Yes. 00:40:35.16\00:40:36.50 ..is making in people's lives. 00:40:36.53\00:40:37.87 And it's a blessing, doesn't it? 00:40:37.90\00:40:39.23 You enjoy being to participate and being a part 00:40:39.27\00:40:41.70 in such a big way of Christmas Behind Bars. 00:40:41.74\00:40:43.24 Actually, I hope they're blessed one eighth 00:40:43.27\00:40:46.11 as much as I am. 00:40:46.14\00:40:48.01 Yeah, it's a true blessing. 00:40:48.04\00:40:49.38 I feel I get the blessing. 00:40:49.41\00:40:51.68 Well, I know that 3ABN is very blessed 00:40:51.71\00:40:53.45 to being able to participate with Christmas Behind Bars 00:40:53.48\00:40:55.78 through all the years 00:40:55.82\00:40:57.15 and it's just neat to see you guys 00:40:57.19\00:40:58.62 moving as a team together, you know, as husband and wife, 00:40:58.65\00:41:00.99 and how God has blessed, Brian... 00:41:01.02\00:41:02.36 Yes. Amen. 00:41:02.39\00:41:03.73 ..in this ministry for sure. 00:41:03.76\00:41:05.09 Great friends of ours. 00:41:05.13\00:41:06.46 Aren't they now? Yes. 00:41:06.49\00:41:07.83 For sure. 00:41:07.86\00:41:09.20 Well, I know you've known a little bit of story of Tyler. 00:41:09.23\00:41:10.57 Yeah, Tyler shared a little bit and I'm gonna... 00:41:10.60\00:41:12.83 we don't have a long hair 00:41:12.87\00:41:14.77 but let me just put it in a capsule form. 00:41:14.80\00:41:18.04 Tyler was raised in a Christian home, 00:41:18.07\00:41:20.31 Christian environment. 00:41:20.34\00:41:21.68 Yes. 00:41:21.71\00:41:23.04 But he saw sometimes what we profess 00:41:23.08\00:41:24.88 and how we live are two different things 00:41:24.91\00:41:26.82 and that brought some disillusionment into his life. 00:41:26.85\00:41:30.49 And through that experience, 00:41:30.52\00:41:33.02 he began getting involved 00:41:33.05\00:41:35.62 in a little bit of a life of rebellion. 00:41:35.66\00:41:37.53 Oh, yeah. 00:41:37.56\00:41:38.89 And that led him into drugs, 00:41:38.93\00:41:42.06 and he spent a couple of different times in prison. 00:41:42.10\00:41:47.50 I know that there was a time 00:41:47.54\00:41:49.57 where he was supposed to have a court case, 00:41:49.60\00:41:51.54 he decided to skip the court case, right, Tyler? 00:41:51.57\00:41:53.58 Yeah. Yes. 00:41:53.61\00:41:54.94 Skip it? 00:41:54.98\00:41:56.31 That's not a good thing, right? 00:41:56.34\00:41:57.68 In a stolen car, with 9 millimeter gun, 00:41:57.71\00:42:00.25 some drugs, and high a bit himself, 00:42:00.28\00:42:03.05 and in the process got stopped. 00:42:03.08\00:42:05.95 And then found yourself back into jail again. 00:42:05.99\00:42:08.66 Yeah. 00:42:08.69\00:42:10.03 So pick us up from there, Tyler. 00:42:10.06\00:42:11.39 Tell us how... 00:42:11.43\00:42:12.89 You don't look like that kind of person today. 00:42:12.93\00:42:14.76 No. 00:42:14.80\00:42:16.13 I would never believe it if I saw it. 00:42:16.16\00:42:17.67 So tell us what happened? 00:42:17.70\00:42:20.10 How things changed for you? 00:42:20.14\00:42:21.47 Well, after they had found me after the vehicle wrecked 00:42:21.50\00:42:28.34 and they picked me up, 00:42:28.38\00:42:33.28 sat in county 00:42:33.31\00:42:35.05 and was looking on trying to get a bail 00:42:35.08\00:42:40.19 and didn't quite work out. 00:42:40.22\00:42:42.52 But after I had sobered up, 00:42:42.56\00:42:47.50 I spent a lot of, in a 23 hour-lockdown at first, 00:42:47.53\00:42:53.27 and only with one hour out to, to do your basic stuff 00:42:53.30\00:42:58.17 that you needed to do and... 00:42:58.21\00:43:02.18 But after I had sobered up, I, 00:43:02.21\00:43:04.51 I got sent up to the block 00:43:04.55\00:43:05.88 where you're not on 23 hour-lockdown anymore. 00:43:05.91\00:43:10.99 It's formal, I went to the bathroom 00:43:11.02\00:43:12.79 and just looking back on my life, 00:43:12.82\00:43:16.73 and as I seen my life unfold, 00:43:16.76\00:43:22.60 chronological order from 00:43:22.63\00:43:23.97 when I was a kid messing up to then, 00:43:24.00\00:43:27.34 while I was sitting in that bathroom. 00:43:27.37\00:43:30.24 And it's almost like, you know, 00:43:30.27\00:43:34.48 I was seeing this view of my life, 00:43:34.51\00:43:37.18 but it wasn't like it was from my eyes, 00:43:37.21\00:43:38.85 it was almost like it was from a different set of eyes 00:43:38.88\00:43:41.12 filled with grief. 00:43:41.15\00:43:42.62 And was then that I realized 00:43:42.65\00:43:47.89 I had that privilege of seeing through God's eyes, 00:43:47.92\00:43:54.06 see how much grief He feels toward people 00:43:54.10\00:43:59.17 who get caught up in that life of sin 00:43:59.20\00:44:02.04 and just to experience it in that way was 00:44:02.07\00:44:07.34 it brought me to my knees, 00:44:07.38\00:44:08.71 I was weeping, and I just finally, 00:44:08.74\00:44:11.38 that's when I said, 00:44:11.41\00:44:12.81 I asked Christ to come back into my life. 00:44:12.85\00:44:14.88 Amen. 00:44:14.92\00:44:16.38 And I just told Him that I was sorry, 00:44:16.42\00:44:18.02 that I doubted and from there 00:44:18.05\00:44:20.66 it was such a transformation, 00:44:20.69\00:44:24.16 it's like wow. 00:44:24.19\00:44:25.59 So how did, 00:44:25.63\00:44:26.96 you somehow got connected with Christmas Behind Bars. 00:44:27.00\00:44:29.03 How did that happen? 00:44:29.06\00:44:30.40 That's, well, after about a year in county, 00:44:30.43\00:44:34.94 I got sentenced and then sent to 00:44:34.97\00:44:38.11 New Castle Correctional Facility level one. 00:44:38.14\00:44:40.11 Okay. 00:44:40.14\00:44:41.48 And shortly thereafter, 00:44:41.51\00:44:46.21 Lemuel and a whole bunch of people came 00:44:46.25\00:44:49.45 and just passing out Christmas Behind Bar sacks 00:44:49.48\00:44:52.99 and it was truly amazing. 00:44:53.02\00:44:58.36 He doesn't recall it, 00:44:58.39\00:44:59.73 but I just remember him 00:44:59.76\00:45:01.76 holding this toothbrush above his head 00:45:01.80\00:45:04.33 and that's the way he made his presentation. 00:45:04.37\00:45:09.44 Yeah. 00:45:09.47\00:45:10.81 I mean, he got up on the table, 00:45:10.84\00:45:12.17 he doesn't recall this 00:45:12.21\00:45:13.54 but it was only for a short minute, 00:45:13.58\00:45:14.94 that's how he started his presentation. 00:45:14.98\00:45:16.68 And it was very captivating, 00:45:16.71\00:45:18.81 I think he had pretty much everybody's attention... 00:45:18.85\00:45:20.88 Yeah. 00:45:20.92\00:45:22.28 ..from that point. 00:45:22.32\00:45:23.65 You know we met in prison 00:45:23.69\00:45:25.12 but tell him how we met just not very long ago. 00:45:25.15\00:45:29.29 We met a couple of weeks ago. 00:45:29.32\00:45:31.56 Probably, yeah, on a Tuesday. 00:45:31.59\00:45:35.93 I had come with my church and it was awesome, 00:45:35.96\00:45:40.04 I've seen him and he was putting people where they, 00:45:40.07\00:45:43.57 you know, where there is help needed and... 00:45:43.61\00:45:45.67 This is at the facility... Yes. 00:45:45.71\00:45:47.04 So your church was coming there until I volunteer or help out. 00:45:47.08\00:45:49.88 Yes, to volunteer with the assembly line 00:45:49.91\00:45:51.78 and or putting bags together, 00:45:51.81\00:45:53.15 and I seen him and I'm like "Hey, I know you." 00:45:53.18\00:45:55.65 So we connected there, but just tell our viewers 00:45:55.68\00:45:58.39 where you were just a couple of days ago. 00:45:58.42\00:46:00.52 We just got a couple of minutes left. 00:46:00.56\00:46:01.89 Yeah. 00:46:01.92\00:46:05.56 Thank God I was actually able to go back into the prison, 00:46:05.59\00:46:09.73 where I was incarcerated and I got to share my testimony 00:46:09.76\00:46:14.97 and seen several people there that I was incarcerated with 00:46:15.00\00:46:19.47 and they were just blown away. 00:46:19.51\00:46:22.08 And so it's like, I just thank God so much. 00:46:22.11\00:46:26.18 Isn't that neat, Tyler? 00:46:26.21\00:46:27.55 I mean, you think about that. 00:46:27.58\00:46:28.92 Here you were incarcerated, 00:46:28.95\00:46:30.29 you were blessed by Christmas Behind Bars 00:46:30.32\00:46:32.22 from Lemuel at the very first, 00:46:32.25\00:46:34.06 he was standing on a table with a toothbrush 00:46:34.09\00:46:35.42 and that was his object lesson. 00:46:35.46\00:46:36.79 Yeah. 00:46:36.83\00:46:38.16 You know, I know that 'cause you've also held up a roll, 00:46:38.19\00:46:39.53 toilet paper roll also as an object lesson. 00:46:39.56\00:46:41.23 Yeah. 00:46:41.26\00:46:42.60 But anyway, so you get out your church you go 00:46:42.63\00:46:44.43 and volunteer at Christmas Behind Bars. 00:46:44.47\00:46:46.23 "Oh, I remember you", then, Tyler, 00:46:46.27\00:46:48.94 you get the opportunity to go back 00:46:48.97\00:46:50.74 into the very correctional facility you were at, 00:46:50.77\00:46:53.34 and to deliver. 00:46:53.38\00:46:54.71 Isn't that blessing, Brian. 00:46:54.74\00:46:56.08 That's nothing but a miracle. 00:46:56.11\00:46:57.45 Packages from Christmas Behind Bars. 00:46:57.48\00:46:58.91 And now, this is the icing on the cake. 00:46:58.95\00:47:00.28 Now you're here to share hope with inmates 00:47:00.32\00:47:02.18 around the world 00:47:02.22\00:47:03.55 and other people that there's hope 00:47:03.59\00:47:04.92 through making that decision that you did in that bathroom, 00:47:04.95\00:47:07.52 that you went from lost to found... 00:47:07.56\00:47:10.03 Yeah. 00:47:10.06\00:47:11.39 And now you continue on to proclaim the gospel message. 00:47:11.43\00:47:13.40 You know, 00:47:13.43\00:47:15.43 Tyler, if the Lord can do that for you, 00:47:15.46\00:47:18.20 anyone listening or watching who feel lost right now, 00:47:18.23\00:47:22.57 I just want you to know that God knows where you're at, 00:47:22.60\00:47:25.47 so you're not lost with from Him. 00:47:25.51\00:47:27.78 And He will take you on a whole new journey, 00:47:27.81\00:47:30.35 if you just make that decision just like Tyler did. 00:47:30.38\00:47:33.21 Yeah. Amen. 00:47:33.25\00:47:34.58 And praise the Lord. 00:47:34.62\00:47:35.95 It goes back to this whole thing. 00:47:35.98\00:47:37.32 Brian, doesn't it? 00:47:37.35\00:47:38.69 This little box in between us here that says lost and found, 00:47:38.72\00:47:40.06 and it's like, yeah, I tell there is always hope. 00:47:40.09\00:47:42.06 Isn't there? 00:47:42.09\00:47:43.43 That was neat, I know in that nine minute video we saw, 00:47:43.46\00:47:44.89 they're talking about that one gentleman who was just, 00:47:44.93\00:47:46.56 you know, crying emotional was talking about the hope 00:47:46.59\00:47:49.00 and forgiveness that God has. 00:47:49.03\00:47:50.67 We have another roll that we're gonna wanna go to, 00:47:50.70\00:47:52.90 we're running out of time here, so let's go to that right now. 00:47:52.93\00:47:57.14 And you guys are being a good example 00:47:57.17\00:47:59.41 to the Christian community out there 00:47:59.44\00:48:02.11 on how to be the spearhead, 00:48:02.14\00:48:06.41 the leaders of helping the people of society 00:48:06.45\00:48:09.62 that most people believe don't deserve help. 00:48:09.65\00:48:14.96 We don't have a fancy home, matter of fact, 00:48:14.99\00:48:16.66 we're known in our community as trailer trash. 00:48:16.69\00:48:19.36 We live in a little mobile home district 00:48:19.39\00:48:21.40 and it is not a very good mobile home park 00:48:21.43\00:48:24.30 but you know what? 00:48:24.33\00:48:25.67 We're happy because we have Jesus. 00:48:25.70\00:48:27.20 That's exactly right. That's all you need. 00:48:27.24\00:48:29.44 And a lot of times we'll sleep in the back of the van 00:48:29.47\00:48:32.07 or the truck to save money, 00:48:32.11\00:48:34.44 and we want our sponsors to know that 00:48:34.48\00:48:35.88 every dime that's donated to this ministry is 00:48:35.91\00:48:39.41 put into the work. 00:48:39.45\00:48:41.12 And we wanna say thanks to our sponsors 00:48:41.15\00:48:43.05 that make this possible because it's not us. 00:48:43.08\00:48:46.35 And that's what we believe Christmas Behind Bars 00:48:46.39\00:48:48.36 free indeed is all about because we're casting our time, 00:48:48.39\00:48:51.46 our resources, our efforts, 00:48:51.49\00:48:53.50 our skills, and abilities 00:48:53.53\00:48:54.90 that God has blessed us with. 00:48:54.93\00:48:56.30 I feel like He blessed us with a talent, 00:48:56.33\00:48:59.03 and we put that talent back into the marketplace 00:48:59.07\00:49:01.50 for the furtherance of the kingdom of heaven. 00:49:01.54\00:49:03.64 And we thank 3ABN and the work that they have done 00:49:03.67\00:49:06.21 to make free indeed possible, 00:49:06.24\00:49:08.21 a living reality of the foundational work 00:49:08.24\00:49:11.01 that Christians Behind Bars has done. 00:49:11.05\00:49:12.91 For many years by God's grace, 00:49:12.95\00:49:14.68 His strength, His endurance, 00:49:14.72\00:49:16.18 and His sponsorship to you. 00:49:16.22\00:49:18.85 Well, this is an opportunity for people 00:49:18.89\00:49:20.49 to see what the love of Christ is, 00:49:20.52\00:49:23.36 and how everybody has an opportunity to change 00:49:23.39\00:49:27.03 and live as God intended for them to live. 00:49:27.06\00:49:29.50 To be completely whole in Jesus Christ, 00:49:29.53\00:49:32.40 and you're doing that. 00:49:32.43\00:49:35.14 Christmas Behind Bars is doing that 00:49:35.17\00:49:36.84 and encouraging people, you know, in these prisons. 00:49:36.87\00:49:39.51 And we're behind you in a small little way. 00:49:39.54\00:49:45.68 Listen to Lord's voice and be obedient to that. 00:49:45.71\00:49:48.78 I just encourage you to get involved with the ministry 00:49:48.82\00:49:51.25 if you have an opportunity to, 00:49:51.29\00:49:53.29 especially to visit in the prison 00:49:53.32\00:49:55.82 to see the faces of the people and to spread the hope 00:49:55.86\00:50:00.16 and to further God's kingdom. 00:50:00.20\00:50:02.30 Your work doesn't come in your failures or your past, 00:50:02.33\00:50:05.60 it comes straight from heaven. 00:50:05.63\00:50:07.84 And just remember that, 00:50:07.87\00:50:09.37 that you're created in His image, 00:50:09.40\00:50:10.97 and He loves you. 00:50:11.01\00:50:12.34 He has send His Son down, 00:50:12.37\00:50:14.51 while we were all yet sinners to save us. 00:50:14.54\00:50:17.18 And so thank you. 00:50:17.21\00:50:21.28 Wow. Amen. 00:50:21.32\00:50:22.65 Another powerful roll, it's neat, isn't it, Brian? 00:50:22.68\00:50:24.02 Yeah. 00:50:24.05\00:50:25.39 To be able to participate and spreading God's Word 00:50:25.42\00:50:28.02 and touching lives for eternity. 00:50:28.06\00:50:29.49 That's for sure. 00:50:29.52\00:50:30.86 Now, Lemuel, there's couple at the end 00:50:30.89\00:50:32.23 they're very special to you 00:50:32.26\00:50:33.60 and Donna in Christmas Behind Bars. 00:50:33.63\00:50:34.96 I know you have a couple more pictures. 00:50:35.00\00:50:36.33 So tell us about this couple 00:50:36.36\00:50:37.70 and then share us those pictures? 00:50:37.73\00:50:39.07 You know, Greg, volunteers come in all forms. 00:50:39.10\00:50:41.34 Amos comes, many volunteers help with all kinds of things, 00:50:41.37\00:50:44.64 this couple donated their warehouse, 00:50:44.67\00:50:46.84 and they don't charge us any, they let us use it, 00:50:46.88\00:50:49.24 they don't charge us no electric, no gas, 00:50:49.28\00:50:51.91 they're diligently helping us be on the frontline, 00:50:51.95\00:50:55.02 so that's what sponsorship is for this ministry 00:50:55.05\00:50:57.49 keeping us on the frontlines. 00:50:57.52\00:50:58.95 We're willing to go 00:50:58.99\00:51:00.32 and it's the sponsors that make it possible. 00:51:00.36\00:51:01.69 That's right. We have a few pictures. 00:51:01.72\00:51:03.06 Yeah. That's right. 00:51:03.09\00:51:04.43 Okay. Yes. 00:51:04.46\00:51:05.79 This is one of our volunteers at the warehouse. 00:51:05.83\00:51:07.50 Her name is Brandy. 00:51:07.53\00:51:08.86 She's a blessing in a lot of different ways. 00:51:08.90\00:51:10.83 I got another picture here. 00:51:10.87\00:51:12.37 If you look at Brandy right here closely. 00:51:12.40\00:51:14.40 Brandy never smiles, 00:51:14.44\00:51:15.77 hardly ever at all in a picture. 00:51:15.80\00:51:17.47 We got one more picture here. 00:51:17.51\00:51:19.14 The reason why is 00:51:19.17\00:51:20.54 because her teeth are rotted out 00:51:20.58\00:51:21.94 from drug addiction, she has about eight months... 00:51:21.98\00:51:24.91 How much time does she have clean now? 00:51:24.95\00:51:26.61 This is a short period of time. 00:51:26.65\00:51:27.98 She's clean now. 00:51:28.02\00:51:29.35 Her husband's in prison, 00:51:29.38\00:51:30.72 and we're trying to get some financial support 00:51:30.75\00:51:32.35 to get her teeth fixed. 00:51:32.39\00:51:33.72 It's about $3,100. 00:51:33.76\00:51:35.66 And we, as a team, Christmas Behind Bars, 00:51:35.69\00:51:38.19 it started 20 years ago, 00:51:38.23\00:51:39.56 we've been able to help many, many people 00:51:39.59\00:51:41.40 in many different aspects of their life. 00:51:41.43\00:51:43.30 And so we'd like to help with this dental work for Brandy. 00:51:43.33\00:51:45.20 Yeah. 00:51:45.23\00:51:46.57 Also Bibles, we need Bibles. Yes, amen. 00:51:46.60\00:51:48.34 Because the inmates the Word of God at RDC, 00:51:48.37\00:51:50.24 Tyler can tell you the value of a Bible at RDC, 00:51:50.27\00:51:53.07 so we need help with Bibles, get packages, 00:51:53.11\00:51:55.18 maybe someone wants to help sponsor a prison 00:51:55.21\00:51:57.21 or with these medical bills 00:51:57.25\00:51:59.31 for the dental work for Brandy and so. 00:51:59.35\00:52:01.62 I tell you what we wanna do right now, Lemuel, 00:52:01.65\00:52:03.18 is we want to go to our address roll 00:52:03.22\00:52:06.19 to tell you how you can, 00:52:06.22\00:52:07.56 you saw earlier they're talking about the trailer, 00:52:07.59\00:52:09.52 that was leaking and they need some funds for a new trailer, 00:52:09.56\00:52:11.86 we're talking about some medical help for Brandy, 00:52:11.89\00:52:14.76 dental work. 00:52:14.80\00:52:16.23 And there's many ways, 00:52:16.26\00:52:17.60 the fuel to travel around to these different prisons. 00:52:17.63\00:52:20.10 So we wanna give, go to that contact information 00:52:20.14\00:52:22.17 so you can support Christmas Behind Bars. 00:52:22.20\00:52:24.07 Christmas Behind Bars 00:52:27.41\00:52:28.78 shares Christ love to those behind bars 00:52:28.81\00:52:31.31 not just on Christmas, but 365 days a year. 00:52:31.35\00:52:35.35 If you would like to learn more, 00:52:35.38\00:52:36.72 you can contact them at PO Box 474, 00:52:36.75\00:52:40.39 Bluffton, Indiana, 46714. 00:52:40.42\00:52:43.43 That's PO Box 474, Bluffton, Indiana, 46714. 00:52:43.46\00:52:49.60 You can call them at 888-536-8342. 00:52:49.63\00:52:54.04 That's 888-536-8342. 00:52:54.07\00:52:58.54 You can also visit them online at ChristmasBehindBars.org. 00:52:58.57\00:53:02.78 That's ChristmasBehindBars.org. 00:53:02.81\00:53:06.35