Participants: C. A. Murray (Host), Ryan St. Hillaire, Dee Casper, Lizbeth Cortes
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY017004A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend 00:14 My life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:39 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people. 01:06 Hello and welcome to 3ABN today. 01:09 My name is C.A. Murray 01:10 and allow me once again to thank you 01:11 for sharing just a little of your day with us, 01:14 to thank you for your love, your prayers, 01:15 your support of Three Angels Broadcasting Network. 01:19 We realize that we couldn't do what we're called to do 01:21 without your partnership and your help. 01:23 And we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. 01:24 Got a good program for you today, an exciting one 01:27 because I love the way God inspires people 01:32 to do special things for him, 01:33 and the different ways the gospel is being shared, 01:36 not just from pulpits or through Bible studies 01:38 or some of the classic ways. 01:40 But God is calling young people and those of us 01:42 who are not so young, to do some new things for him, 01:45 to get the gospel into places 01:46 and it airs where it otherwise may not go. 01:50 And so today's program, we introduce us to a media 01:53 that shares a little bit of our campus here, 01:55 but it's separate from 3ABN, 01:57 but certainly flows in the vein of what 3ABN is trying to do. 02:00 And this is the UnScene Media Group. 02:03 I even like the term UnScene Media, 02:05 we got to unpackage that. 02:06 And talk about what that means 02:08 and how that is fulfilling God's gospel commission. 02:12 I have seated next to me here in what would normally be 02:14 the hot seat, Ryan St. Hillaire, 02:17 who was the... 02:18 I wanna say chief cook and bottle washer, 02:19 but I have to say executive director 02:22 of UnScene Media. 02:23 Ryan, good to have you here, man. 02:24 Thank you. 02:26 You have been here for a little while 02:27 and have done a number of projects for 3ABN, 02:30 but your heart, your passion is UnScene Media. 02:33 Correct. Yeah. 02:34 And before we introduce our guests, 02:35 let me just put the hot seat, 02:37 the spotlight on you real quick. 02:38 Okay. What is UnScene Media? 02:40 What does it seek to do? Why does it exist? 02:43 We are a ministry 02:45 that our mission is to disciple and inspire youth 02:49 with the eternal realities of God's love 02:51 through dynamic visual media. 02:53 And we all know that 02:55 there is a generation gap in our church. 02:57 Oh, yes. 02:58 And we realize that the best way 03:00 to be able to reach the young people 03:04 is to be able to have discipleship, 03:08 to get young people involved. 03:10 And we're gonna talk about that in just a bit. 03:12 But there's a quote, 03:15 and this will just kind of set the framework. 03:17 In Christian service, Page 33 that says, 03:19 "We should educate the youth to help the youth 03:22 as they seek to do this work. 03:23 They will gain an experience that will qualify them 03:26 to become consecrated workers in a larger sphere." 03:29 So we are media ministry, 03:31 but we are also empowering young people 03:34 to be able to use media tools to reach their generation. 03:37 Amen, amen. 03:38 And no one can reach young people like young people, 03:40 even though there are those of us 03:41 delude ourselves into thinking, 03:43 "Oh, I can talk to young people." 03:44 Young people talk to young people 03:46 better than old people talk to young people. 03:47 Correct. And that's just the truth. 03:50 And so that's what 03:51 UnScene Media groups function is, 03:54 that's why it exists, that's its purpose. 03:56 Yeah. Yeah. 03:57 And if you are wondering about the name... 03:58 Yes, that was the next question. 04:00 2 Corinthians 4:18 says, 04:01 "We fix our eyes not on what is seen, 04:03 but on what is unseen, 04:05 because what seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." 04:08 Is eternal. 04:09 And so our focus or idea 04:12 is to direct hearts and minds 04:15 towards the unseen realities of God's love. 04:17 Very cool. 04:19 Now, you actually bring people in for training. 04:21 You actually train and teach. 04:23 So we have some students, 04:25 yea, interns it says officially, with us. 04:28 Let's get on to the list. 04:30 Priscilla Elwin. 04:31 Yes, that's me. 04:33 All right, now someone has told me. 04:34 Is it you that's the fantastic cook? 04:37 No? 04:38 Somebody in this group is a fantastic cook. 04:40 They're all fantastic. Yeah. 04:44 Yeah, someone said that there's someone 04:45 who has really distinguish themselves. 04:48 So maybe, it's... everybody is a fantastic cook. 04:50 And praise the Lord. 04:51 Priscilla, where are you from? 04:53 Papua New Guinea. 04:54 Papua New Guinea, you came a little way, didn't you? 04:57 I did. Yeah, praise the Lord. 04:59 You have to ask how she found out about our ministry. 05:02 You must be a mediator guy, 05:04 'cause you're like pre-empting my questions. 05:05 Yep. 05:07 How did indeed you found out about this media group? 05:10 In fact, I got an e-mail from my friend 05:13 and at the footnote it had something about IDEA. 05:16 I'm like, "What is this, let me look out." 05:19 And that's how I found IDEA, UnScene Media and IDEA. 05:23 Praise the Lord. 05:24 So you took a chance to come all the way 05:26 from Papua New Guinea... 05:27 Yes. Which is not next door. 05:29 No. 05:30 All the way to Thompsonville, Illinois. 05:32 Yes. Bless your heart. 05:34 Bless your heart. It's cold. 05:35 Yeah, it's getting cold. It is. 05:37 Yeah, we have seasons here. 05:40 Are you rolling with those pretty good? 05:42 Yes, I have to adopt, yeah. Amen. 05:44 Yeah and amen, and amen, and amen. 05:47 In the middle, Anna Lisa Van Melle. 05:50 Yes. Hi, Anna Lisa. 05:52 How are you? Hi. I'm good. 05:53 Where are you from? I'm from West Virginia. 05:56 Yeah, I was born in Maryland but I've been living 05:58 in West Virginia for the past several years. 06:00 Adventist home? Yes. 06:02 Brothers and sisters? No, I'm the only child. 06:04 You're the only child? Yeah. 06:06 How did you find out about UnScene? 06:08 Well, some of them came to my school. 06:13 Last year, I was a senior 06:15 and they talked at my English class. 06:16 Of course, you know, we're graduating 06:18 so trying to recruit us to come here. 06:19 So I wanted to take a year of break 06:22 and I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. 06:24 I thought about mission service, 06:25 but that didn't work out and so I decided to come here. 06:28 Was media always something that interested you, 06:30 the visual art? 06:32 It always interested me. 06:33 I was never really that into it, 06:36 but now I'm really enjoying it a lot more as I've been here. 06:40 You can see yourself kind of sticking 06:41 with this a little bit? 06:42 Yeah, more probably as a hobby, 06:44 and I do want to use a lot of the skills 06:48 that I've learnt for ministry 06:49 because I do want to be a missionary someday. 06:54 So, yeah. 06:56 Yeah, definitely. Praise the Lord. 06:57 Praise the Lord. 06:59 And last, but certainly not least, Nicole. 07:01 You are a Potgieter. Yeah. 07:04 Potgieter. Potgieter. From? 07:06 I'm originally from South Africa. 07:08 Back then, my family moved to America two years ago. 07:13 So that, you know, my brother and I can have 07:15 more opportunities for ministry and stuff. 07:18 Adventist family also? 07:19 Yes, Adventist family. Bless your heart. 07:21 How did you find out about UnScene media? 07:23 Actually, they came to my school 07:25 and they were like, 07:26 trying to recruit people and I heard about its like, 07:29 "Oh, that's a nice idea, but I've got my own plans. 07:31 I've already applied for the schools." 07:34 And then suddenly my plans just fell apart after two days 07:37 of being at my school. 07:39 And I thought, "Well, you know, let me try UnScene," 07:42 and that was where the Lord wanted me all along. 07:44 Excellent. 07:46 So, Ryan, a large part of what you do is recruitment 07:49 or at least exposing your vision 07:51 to young people in the high school 07:52 or academy setting? 07:54 Yeah, we've been to quite a few schools 07:56 over the last year. 07:57 And one of the reasons 07:58 we also do week of prayers for them. 08:01 So we would travel and we would also share 08:03 in addition to the week of prayer, 08:05 we'd share about what the ministry is doing 08:06 and opportunities that exist for the young people. 08:10 But sometimes, once in a while 08:11 as we are traveling through to other gigs, 08:13 we'll stop by at different academies 08:15 and just share about the IDEA program 08:18 and the opportunities that exist there. 08:20 Do you find that most Adventist schools are open 08:22 to let you come in and talk to their students? 08:24 So far. Yeah. 08:26 Yeah. Praise the Lord. 08:27 Yeah. 08:28 We praise the Lord for that. 08:30 Now, I need to say 08:31 that the other half of this dynamic duo 08:32 is Dee Casper. 08:34 He'll be in, in just a few minutes 08:36 with another intern. 08:38 How did you indeed, I use the term hook up, 08:41 how did you come together? 08:43 Through a series of miracles. 08:45 We can share that a little bit later 08:47 but there were just tons of miracles 08:49 that led up to actually launching the IDEA program, 08:53 because it's an impossibility what we're doing right now. 08:58 We didn't have the funds, we didn't have the resources, 09:00 we didn't have anything that we needed 09:02 in order to launch a training program 09:04 which has been something 09:05 that has been a vision for a long time. 09:09 But God told, 09:11 He just impressed on my heart, the idea that, 09:16 "If this is a vision that I have given you, 09:19 " this is God speaking to me that, 09:21 "You need to move forward with it." 09:23 And He will provide 09:25 whatever is necessary in order to make it happen. 09:28 And it was a scary thing, 09:31 because I was letting go of 09:33 other opportunities and so forth. 09:35 But we stepped out in faith 09:36 and God brought exactly the people 09:38 that we needed to run the program. 09:40 He brought the resources, He brought everything 09:42 that needed to happen in order for us to launch it. 09:45 And in just over a period of one year, 09:47 or it's been two... 09:48 this is the second year that we're running the program. 09:51 We've been able to do things that I never imagined. 09:53 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 09:55 Maybe that's fortuitous then 09:56 and providential that you're on this campus 09:58 because that is a, dare I say, 10:00 Shelton-esque kind of history. 10:03 The idea that God plants a vision in your mind, 10:05 and you just go out and you just do it. 10:07 And then God provides as you walk, 10:09 God opens the door and you just walk through them. 10:11 It's been an inspiration, 10:12 because where we are staying right now 10:15 is on 3ABN's miracle land, where it all started. 10:18 Yes, and you're on the original miracle land, yeah. 10:20 So praise the Lord. 10:22 In a pretty nice set of digs till I drove by that today, 10:25 not bad. 10:26 You know when the Lord blesses, He really blesses. 10:28 God blessed us. 10:29 Listen, give me a little history on you, 10:30 just as far as your media background 10:32 and sort of what led you 10:34 to this particular point in time? 10:37 I studied video production at Andrews University. 10:40 And always just had a passion for ministry, 10:43 and I kind of explored. 10:46 I started off as a theology major 10:47 'cause I knew that 10:49 God had a calling on my heart for ministry, 10:50 I wasn't sure exactly what that meant. 10:52 Eventually, I ended up moving just into video production. 10:55 And I've been through a lot in the past, ups and downs. 10:59 And eventually, I realized that the only way 11:03 that we can grow spiritually 11:05 that God can continue to bless us 11:07 is when we are actively ministering to others... 11:09 Correct. 11:11 ..discipleship. 11:12 And so that became a foundation for this ministry. 11:14 When we started it, I realized, you know, 11:17 we could be the greatest 11:18 media production company in the world, 11:20 putting together cutting edge media 11:23 in film production, television, new media, whatever. 11:26 But if we're not empowering young people 11:28 to be able to replicate what we're doing, 11:31 if we're not putting that into their own hands, 11:33 then the vision is stopping with us. 11:35 And we wanted to be able to continue that 11:37 through Jesus' method of discipleship. 11:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11:41 So God called you to minister. 11:43 You just needed to figure out 11:44 what that meant as far as what type for ministry. 11:46 And this is ministry. 11:48 It is. Yeah. 11:49 This is ministry of highest order. 11:53 Let me just ask the interns here, 11:54 and then I wanna kind of follow you it on a bit 11:56 because you got a lot to talk about. 11:58 Is this rigorous? 11:59 Are you really learning things that you did not know before? 12:04 Or our brethren being kind of hard on you? 12:06 Are you enjoying? 12:07 Are you enjoying what you're doing? 12:08 And let me just you Priscilla, 12:10 'cause you came the farthest way. 12:12 Give me just a little flavor of you experience? 12:16 Okay, let me just start by saying, 12:19 I had a little experience in film making. 12:23 I went to a film school for nine weeks 12:27 and went back home. 12:28 It was in Philippines, went back to PNG. 12:31 I started doing little bits and pieces, 12:34 but I needed the camera skills, 12:37 how to operate camera and editing. 12:39 So I said, "Okay, 12:41 God you have to find me a place 12:42 where I can go and learn myself, 12:44 so I can do that better." 12:47 Yeah, so I think 12:50 He had hasten and led me here. 12:54 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 12:56 Nicole, are you learning some good stuff? 12:59 Oh, yeah, definitely. 13:00 I started off knowing like nothing. 13:04 And now I've learned how to use Mac, 13:08 because I've always been a PC girl. 13:09 So, you know, figuring out final cut 13:12 and using cameras and lenses and lighting 13:15 and all that stuff so, yeah. 13:17 I've definitely learned a lot. Praise the Lord. 13:19 Anna Lisa, good stuff? Yeah, definitely. 13:22 I've always been into photography. 13:24 And I just never really had a really good camera to use. 13:27 And so I've been really enjoying, 13:30 like using cameras more, and editing, 13:33 and you know, what she said too. 13:35 It's been really, really, really good. 13:37 So, Ryan, this is kind of hands on. 13:38 I mean, you let them handle the stuff 13:39 and produce things 13:41 and actually get dirty for one of a better turn 13:45 with touching things and handling things. 13:47 It's not just theory or the textbook stuff, 13:49 you actually go out and do. 13:50 Exactly, yeah, that's the idea. 13:52 I mean, we still have some theory instruction. 13:55 But for the most part, 13:57 we want them to learn by getting their hands on it 13:59 and actually doing it. 14:00 That's been the objective of our program. 14:02 Yeah. 14:03 And we'll talk about it little later. 14:05 You have a little film... 14:07 what I call it... 14:09 but we actually see their work in a setting 14:13 at the end of their time. 14:15 Yeah, yeah. And that's a really good stuff. 14:16 They're working on real projects 14:18 that we've done together with other ministries 14:20 and we'll show some of those in just a second here. 14:23 And they had to work on 14:25 some of their own projects as well. 14:26 And we kind of help them through that 14:29 as far as instruction with editing 14:31 and stuff like that so, yeah. 14:32 Praise the Lord. 14:33 So when they come out, 14:35 they're able to storyboard 14:36 or conceive an idea 14:38 and walk through it, shoot it, edit it, 14:42 so you go from concept to full production. 14:44 Yeah, exactly. Well done. 14:46 In fact, we can kind of talk about some of the projects 14:49 that they've been involved in. 14:51 We talked about how we do week of prayers as a ministry, 14:56 and so, of course, when we do that, 14:57 we bring the interns along, 14:59 and we get them involved in sharing 15:02 little devotional thoughts 15:03 and taking little opportunities with classes, 15:07 sometimes they have a media class 15:09 or some workshops that we can teach, 15:11 so they actually get to lead out in that. 15:14 And we've also been on some other gigs. 15:19 I think we have some pictures of the week of prayer 15:21 that we can show. 15:23 Yeah, let's take a look. 15:24 That... 15:25 this is our evangelism director Dee Casper, 15:28 which we'll meet in a little bit. 15:31 And he's there presenting, 15:34 I don't remember what the topic was, but... 15:37 and the next picture here is Priscilla. 15:39 Priscilla, you wanna tell us what you were talking about? 15:41 Yeah, I was sharing with students at Hobbit Hills 15:45 and I shared from the Book of Jeremiah, 15:48 how everyone is 15:51 called by God to be something for Him. 15:56 Yeah. 15:57 Like Jeremiah, he was ordained a prophet. 15:58 Yeah. 16:00 So this is kind of neat and it's a... 16:01 and forgive me for cutting off, Priscilla, 16:03 but this is kind of a wrinkle that I didn't understand 16:05 that your interns, 16:08 students actually get to get up and speak 16:11 as part of your overall curriculum 16:13 or what you want them to do. 16:15 So they're learning camera skills 16:16 but they are also picking up speaking opportunities also. 16:18 Yeah, exactly. 16:19 So we're training not just in media 16:21 but also in evangelism 16:23 and we're training media in the context 16:26 of evangelism as well. 16:28 So I think the next project that we went on 16:32 and which is really cool. 16:33 It was the first big project 16:34 that most of you have been on with, we got to go to the... 16:40 to Pennsylvania to shoot concert 16:43 for The Lesser Light Collective. 16:45 You wanna tell us about that? 16:48 Yeah, it was an amazing experience, 16:50 I mean, yeah, for me it was the first big production 16:53 I've ever been a part of, and it was... 16:57 took us several days to set up everything 16:59 because we weren't familiar with the venue, 17:01 and so Nicole and I 17:04 got to work on a DJI Ronin Gimbal and... 17:10 Hope we have some pictures of that... 17:11 Yeah, I think we do. 17:12 Of actually putting together this thing. 17:14 It took us like two days to balance it 17:16 because we had like a really heavy lens 17:18 and a light camera body in it. 17:20 It took us a while but, you know, 17:22 once we finish setting that thing up 17:24 like I will never ever forget how to set up a gimbal, 17:29 but yeah, there was that, 17:30 and the ceiling was really high. 17:34 So we had to figure out how to... 17:36 We won't talk about this picture too much. 17:38 And we won't tell you who had to climb that ladder. 17:42 Well, obviously somebody did. 17:43 Somebody did. Yeah. 17:46 So you're getting real life hands-on not only 17:49 but setup experience 17:51 and you're walking through the whole production process. 17:53 Yeah. Really great. 17:54 Now did you speak at any of these? 17:56 Oh, this is the concert you were telling me. 17:57 So this is the concert that you were filming? 17:59 Yeah. Yeah. 18:01 So... 18:02 Wow. 18:04 Yeah, here we have a picture of the artist 18:05 actually performing once we had 18:06 everything set up there, so. 18:08 Now how do you find these things? 18:09 Or do they find you, or the people... 18:12 It's a combination and it's just been interesting 18:14 because God has brought us into contact with people 18:17 and He's given us divine appointments. 18:19 Over and over again, we weren't necessarily looking 18:21 for these things but, you know, through somebody 18:24 who knew somebody would come and contact us and say, 18:27 "Hey, you know, we're doing this. 18:29 Would you be able to help out?" 18:30 And that's how most of it has happened. 18:33 And that's incredible because it just shows that, 18:35 you know, God is bringing stuff to us, 18:37 we're not going out looking for it. 18:39 Looking for it. 18:41 Are you producing things for sale, 18:42 to support the ministry or just for a commission 18:47 for that particular artist or that particular venue? 18:49 How does that work? 18:51 This particular concert that we went to 18:54 was kind of a challenge because 18:56 we don't have much of our own equipment right now. 18:58 So we didn't make anything from the gig. 19:00 We went mostly because it was experience 19:03 that we could provide our interns with. 19:04 Yeah, yeah. 19:06 And it was something that we could do. 19:07 And we believed in the ministry, 19:08 we wanted to help them out, etc. 19:11 So we do have some projects that we're producing 19:14 or working on in the future that would be for sale. 19:17 For the most part right now it's a challenge 19:19 because we're trying to come up 19:21 with as many opportunities as we can 19:24 to provide the experience. 19:25 Yeah, so you need like field trip so they can do some 19:27 practical stuff out in the field. 19:29 Yeah. Yeah. 19:31 Yeah. Praise the Lord. 19:32 Really, well done. 19:33 Now how many... we got three here, 19:35 I think we got another one coming here in the second half. 19:36 How many students can you handle at a time? 19:39 We can take up to six. 19:40 Okay. Okay. 19:42 So this is not a big kind of mass worship kind of thing, 19:44 this is very individual micro kind of stuff 19:46 where you can really get in and learn and teach. 19:48 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, excellent, excellent. 19:50 Did you have another video that you wanted us to show? 19:53 I'm gonna sort of let you kind of take the lead here. 19:55 Yeah, it's okay, we've kind of talked about the IDEA program 19:58 so we can kind of... 20:00 it was a promo video for IDEA 20:03 that just kind of expresses some of the things 20:04 that we've been talking about. 20:07 But we can share, there's two other experiences 20:11 that I wanted to share. 20:13 Just recently, we were at GYC, 20:15 we got to record some videos 20:17 and, Nicole, you can kind of share your experience there. 20:21 Well, this past GYC was actually my second one. 20:24 So you know, you still get the hype of, you know, 20:27 this is GYC, this is so awesome, you know. 20:30 But I really enjoyed the fact 20:32 that we got to work with all the speakers, 20:35 and GYC asked us to form devotional videos, 20:38 and they're going to release them every two weeks. 20:41 And so we got to interact with everybody 20:43 that actually spoke at GYC. 20:45 We had... 20:46 I think we have two pictures that we can show for that... 20:48 Yeah, we had... 20:49 I know we had like David Kim, 20:52 John Bradshaw, David Shin 20:55 and we even had the SDA GC president, Ted Wilson. 21:00 And for me it was a great learning experience 21:03 because I got to actually learn 21:05 how to like be in-charge of a shoot, 21:08 make sure the cameras are running, audios going, 21:10 the person needs to know where to sit, what to do. 21:13 So I learnt something, you know, 21:16 some of my own personal problems. 21:18 Well, not problems but... 21:20 yeah, things that I struggle. 21:22 Through with some of your problems. 21:23 Things that I struggle with that, you know, 21:25 like act scared to take over 21:27 and that helped me realize, you know, 21:29 I need to stand up take control. 21:31 And then I was also blessed by the devotionals 21:35 because as I am editing them, 21:36 I listen to them over and over and over. 21:38 And so I've actually got a lot of them memorized now. 21:41 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 21:43 Yeah. Really, well done. 21:44 I'm getting a little better understanding 21:47 on the scope of Unscene. 21:49 And what you try to do with your students 21:52 and the fact that you're giving them significant field work 21:54 is a great thing. 21:55 Yeah, yeah, that's the idea. 21:57 Now there's one more... 21:59 Nicole, I'm actually, 22:00 I'm really proud of you for 22:02 how you've been taking initiative 22:04 in just learning things 22:05 and you actually had just, 22:07 recently you finished 22:09 a promotional video for our film camp 22:11 which was a program that we did during this summer. 22:14 So I wanted to just show that, that's the second video 22:16 that we actually had to show, 22:18 but I wanna show that video and show everybody, 22:21 what you've actually put together for us 22:23 if we can. 22:24 My name is Ethan David. 22:26 Timothy Peek. 22:27 Katherine, also known as KC. 22:29 My favorite part about film camp is chilling. 22:32 Getting to use the drone 22:34 and going tubing. 22:36 My favorite part about film camp 22:38 that definitely has to be the people, 22:41 because I started learning 22:43 how to trust people a little bit more 22:45 than I've already have been doing. 22:47 And I learned like how to start applying things 22:52 to my everyday life and to start having like... 22:55 and the importance of having daily worship 22:56 with God everyday. 22:58 I've learned to use final cut 23:01 and to use the osmos and cameras. 23:06 'Cause, you know, you just straight show 23:08 with all the equipment, especially with the drone. 23:11 That is amazing. 23:14 And all the osmo, the osmo, 23:15 the drone and all the camera equipment 23:18 that they entrust into our care is amazing. 23:21 The food was so great, it was so awesome. 23:25 I loved it. 23:26 I would recommend film camp 23:28 because film camp is just a great overall place 23:31 with the staff, the placement. 23:34 And with all the people, especially how you meet them, 23:38 and we guys pretty much become family 23:41 by the next course of two weeks. 23:43 I would say that to all of my friends, 23:45 actually, that they should go 23:47 because all the opportunities you get, 23:50 like you get to learn so much, 23:52 and yet at the same time while you're learning, 23:54 you're still having fun, and that's one thing 23:57 that I think that's very cool about it because 24:00 what's the fun in learning and being bored. 24:03 This would be a good opportunity 24:04 for them to learn, 24:06 to take some of the skills they have, 24:08 and tie them to Jesus. 24:10 So that they gonna be able to help 24:11 in this ministry that we have. 24:13 Not only that they learn the skills, 24:15 but as they resided with the others, 24:19 living together, playing together, 24:21 doing all the things, they bonded. 24:23 And they took time both 24:26 to learn skills from one another, 24:28 but to build up camaraderie as a team. 24:31 You're learning and not only learning, 24:34 filming or editing some thing. 24:37 Like I saw that all of you guys like focusing on Jesus, 24:41 like spending more time with Jesus. 24:44 And I'm so amazed with that. 25:04 Wow, very good, hey man, you have drone school. 25:08 Well, it's one of the-- One of the-- 25:10 I like that, you have drone... 25:11 I would go just for drone school. 25:12 Yeah. 25:14 That is really, really cool. 25:15 We are joined by Dee Casper, 25:18 who is your evangelism director. 25:22 And Lizbeth Cortes? 25:25 Yes, that's right. From where, Lizbeth? 25:27 I live in Mississippi, 25:29 where that's my parents are from. 25:30 From Mississippi? Yes. 25:32 You don't look like a Mississippian. 25:34 I'm originally from Mexico, that's where I was born. 25:36 Excellent. Do you speak Spanish? 25:38 Si, hablo español. Me alegro, bueno. 25:42 I need to find out how you two get together, 25:44 'cause I know a little of your story, 25:46 I know a lot of Dee's story. 25:48 Dee hasn't been a Seventh-Day Adventist that long 25:51 and his coming was fairly dramatic, 25:53 so how did you two, 25:54 you know, get together? 25:58 The co-founder of UnScene Media Group, 26:00 his name is Ben Middleton. 26:01 Ben is actually the one that I met, 26:03 here at 3ABN camp meeting actually in 2010. 26:06 Part of my testimony 26:07 is that David Asscherick asked for my name 26:08 in the middle of the sermon, on the front row. 26:11 I didn't want to be on the front row, 26:12 but Angie Lomacang made me sit up there. 26:14 And then he asked my name, 26:15 when I went to go meet David during lunch 26:17 right after that happened, 26:18 that's where I met Ben. 26:19 We became friends from then on, a year... 26:21 and then I went to RISE right after that, 26:23 part of that was from his encouragement 26:24 and it just kind of providential leading, 26:26 and then Ben started this ministry 26:28 with Ryan a year later, 26:30 and then I helped them in GYC, I drove down. 26:34 Most of them flew down, they needed another vehicle 26:36 to get from where they were staying to GYC and back. 26:38 So I stayed with them in 2000... 26:42 GYC Orlando, wherever that was. 26:44 So I met them a few years ago 26:45 and then, God convicted me to move back to Illinois. 26:48 I was working in Tennessee as a Bible worker 26:50 and an elder in the local church 26:51 and then was teaching at Heritage Academy 26:53 as well in the Bible class. 26:54 And God convicted me to come back to Illinois, 26:57 but what I wasn't sure about was what I was going to do. 26:59 And even the local pastor, 27:01 when I called and talked to him, he said, 27:02 "So let me get this straight, you're coming to Illinois, 27:05 but you don't have a job 27:06 or anyway to provide for yourself?" 27:08 I said, "Yes, that's correct." 27:09 And then he said, "Well, I'll be praying for you." 27:12 And I talked to Toman, 27:14 and who used to work here at 3ABN and Tom said, 27:16 "Why don't you make a resume, 27:17 I'll see what I can come up with." 27:18 I talked to Ryan and Ben a couple days later, 27:21 they asked, if I would consult 27:22 for the ministry to some degree, 27:25 for some of their planning in evangelism stuff. 27:27 And then Ryan said... 27:28 I said, "What are your biggest needs." 27:29 He says, "Well, 27:31 actually we need someone to teach our Bible classes 27:32 and someone to do some of the preaching 27:34 and other stuff." 27:35 I thought, that's funny, that's kind of what I do. 27:36 And I said, "Well, send me the job description 27:38 and I'll pray about it." 27:39 And the resume I just made for Toman 27:41 and the job description 27:42 that Ryan had made for this position, 27:44 without thinking of me for this position 27:45 were literally exactly the same, 27:48 to a T like everything they asked 27:50 for I had experience in doing. 27:52 And that's not coincidence. 27:53 No. Yeah. 27:55 And he wasn't looking for me. Right. 27:56 And even whenever he told me that they had this position, 27:58 I just already help out from time to time 28:00 living somewhere else 28:01 having no idea it would be a fulltime venture for me. 28:03 Yeah. 28:04 And so I've been here for about a year and a half now. 28:07 And I'm absolutely thrilled 28:08 and we are seeing God work in mighty ways. 28:11 So for both of you this is kind of the faith walk. 28:13 But it's also a fulfillment of it 28:16 maybe even an unspoken dream. 28:17 Yes. 28:18 About something that was in your heart to do, 28:20 God just gave you the platform upon which to do it. 28:23 Oh, I came kicking and screaming. 28:24 Yeah. 28:26 I didn't get your word, 28:27 I don't wanna be in front of people. 28:29 So I... 28:30 when John Lomacang said a few years ago, 28:31 that this young man's gonna do evangelism in Carbondale, 28:33 which did happened three years after he said that. 28:34 I thought he was out of his mind. 28:35 I don't wanna speak, 28:37 I don't wanna be in front of people, 28:38 it's terrifying, it's scary. 28:40 But I realized that where I feel the most at home 28:43 is where God has led me. 28:44 It feels natural 28:45 but it's scary at the same time. 28:47 I don't really know how to explain it, 28:48 like I know what to do 28:50 but it's still kinda scary to do it. 28:51 Yeah, yeah. 28:52 And now your face is everywhere. 28:54 I know, that's the scary thing, 28:55 like the face of the ministry now, it is terrifying, 28:57 but God knows how to work. 28:58 He knows... 29:00 You know, it's good that the Lord keeps a little healthy 29:01 Christian fear in there... 29:02 Yeah. 29:04 Because you know, it's not on you, it's on God. 29:05 And if you go up there with no fear 29:06 and figure you got this 29:08 and then the devil will show you, 29:09 well, you ain't got this. 29:11 You need Jesus. Yeah. 29:13 Lizbeth, how long have you been with here on campus? 29:18 I've been here since August of last year. 29:21 Okay, now did you come with any media experience at all 29:24 or just expectations? 29:25 I did, I went to school for two years 29:28 doing mass media communications. 29:30 Uh-huh. Yeah. 29:31 Now what is interesting is because you take students 29:33 who have absolutely no television background, 29:36 no media background, and you also have some... 29:39 Priscilla said the same thing, who have some. 29:41 So obviously, you're giving them 29:42 an opportunity to expand 29:44 on what they have learned even in school. 29:46 So this is pretty quality stuff. 29:48 This is not just shot in the arm 29:49 kind of take it as you go, this is good stuff. 29:51 Yeah. 29:52 And I'm doing, 29:54 I'm trying to sell you here same thing. 29:55 This is a commercial. 29:57 That when they come 29:58 even if you've had some education, 30:00 some training, 30:02 you can top it off or learn more 30:03 or expand by coming to Unscene, 30:06 that's good, that's good, that's good, Dee. 30:08 Yeah, one of the reasons 30:09 why we started and exist right now 30:12 is because we're doing something 30:13 that really doesn't exist anywhere. 30:15 To be able to come and receive evangelism training 30:19 at an evangelism school 30:20 and also to be able to receive media training 30:23 but in the context of 30:24 how do I communicate the gospel through this media. 30:28 There're just aren't opportunities for young person 30:31 who is passionate about serving God, 30:33 to be able to learn, 30:35 and to be able to get that experience. 30:37 And so we've started 30:39 what we have out of the necessity 30:41 and out of the burden that God placed on our heart, 30:42 of course, to be able to provide 30:45 those options for young people. 30:47 Yeah, yeah. 30:48 This is... and I wanna 30:49 just sort of walk us through this 30:51 because this is where the rubber meets the road 30:52 for this particular niche of this ministry. 30:54 One, it is... 30:57 it'll give you skills 30:58 as far as media production is concerned, 31:01 but those skills are tightly wedded 31:04 with evangelism. 31:06 So you have a situation here 31:08 where you gotta small number of people, 31:11 who are taught hands-on very close, 31:16 small group who wed evangelism with media 31:20 and that to me is an unbeatable 31:22 and very occurrent thing to do, man. 31:25 This is the time for that kind of, 31:27 that kind of marriage. 31:28 And our burden was that, 31:30 in order to make someone a great Christian filmmaker, 31:32 our first burden was actually to make them great Christians, 31:36 because if you just give someone technical skills 31:37 and hopefully use it for Jesus, that's one thing, 31:39 but our burden was to enable them 31:41 to take these gifts by continually infusing 31:44 everything we do with a Christian influence 31:46 in a family atmosphere. 31:48 So Liz is actually one of our staff members, 31:49 she's the director of development 31:51 and but she's also kind of serving as the girls' dean, 31:53 in that sense too, 31:54 'cause all the girls were in the home together. 31:56 So it's an environment where everyone wants to feel 31:58 like a home and like a family, not just instruction, 32:02 and lots of work, and lots of doing. 32:04 And when we had our film camp last summer, 32:06 that was one of the main things 32:07 we heard continually from the kids was, 32:09 "This feels like a family to us." 32:10 Yeah. 32:12 "We have worship together, we have meals together, 32:13 we traveled together." 32:14 And so it's a close-knit group, 32:16 it's not just a lot of technical doings. 32:18 And we should talk about that for just a second on film camp. 32:20 I want to... 32:21 I really want to share some miracles, 32:23 but since we just... 32:25 we showed the promo video for the film camp. 32:28 I don't know, do you wanna share little bit 32:29 about what that was like 32:31 and I think we have some pictures 32:32 to go with that as well. 32:33 The film camp was amazing, I mean, all the kids that came, 32:37 all of them want to come back this next summer 32:39 which I thought, if you came and do a film camp, 32:41 you kind of have that experience 32:42 and that was enough, 32:44 but they had such a phenomenal experience. 32:45 One young person says, 32:47 "I don't really like singing hymns." 32:49 And healthy food isn't really his thing 32:50 because he grew up in a background 32:51 where that's done all the time, 32:53 you know, he wants to kind of try other things. 32:54 Sure. 32:56 But he said, "Something about this place is different." 32:58 We were just singing hymns a capella, 33:00 we didn't have a keyboard or anything else, 33:02 and he liked it, and we were serving healthy 33:04 but delicious simple food, 33:05 and he liked it, and he said, 33:07 he literally had the best experience of his life. 33:08 Praise the Lord. 33:10 And so and all the young people had great, great time, 33:12 they got together 33:14 well, they get along well together and so on. 33:17 Yeah. 33:18 And as far as any pictures, 33:19 I'm not sure what they have or what they have shown, 33:21 but that's... 33:22 I think they put some together, they... 33:23 That's actually the whole group there. 33:25 So that's all the students plus the instructional staff 33:26 and there's another picture I think after that. 33:29 And this is some of them working together 33:32 during an editing workshops, 33:33 Ryan's teach them how to edit 33:34 on final cut pro on the laptops that we have brought in. 33:36 Should be another picture and this is in filming. 33:40 Actually in a 3ABN studios, we partnered with 3ABN, 33:42 so this is on studio E, 33:44 one of the videos they did on testimonies. 33:46 Just had it filmed someone's testimony 33:47 in an engaging way. 33:49 This is one of our students using a DGI Osmos, 33:51 it's a hand gimbal, 33:53 they can use for movement shots, 33:56 and I think we may have one more... 33:58 this is one of our students using the Phantom 4 34:00 drone by DGI, 34:02 their newest drone that they came out 34:03 with a 4K drone. 34:05 It's actually chasing 34:06 some of the cows next door to the property 34:08 and then we have fun too. 34:09 So we go play soccer, we have water balloon fights 34:11 and this is actually the kids tubing on the boat. 34:14 Very last day. That's very last day. 34:15 Celebrate. Celebrate all the hard work. 34:17 Yes, and the sunburn won't bother you 34:19 because you're leaving tomorrow. 34:21 Yeah, the kids actually can sav up 34:22 and just go home, yeah. 34:23 And then this is the film festival. 34:25 You were there for that, right? Yes, I really was, yeah. 34:26 Yeah, really, well done. 34:28 And your had some fairly young students 34:30 for your film camp. 34:31 13-17 is the age range, yeah, and it went very, very well. 34:35 Probably about a 100 people come to it too 34:37 from the community and from the church, 34:39 and they showed it in the Thompsonville church, 34:40 and on the big LED board at the back. 34:42 It went really well. 34:43 This is really cool, guys, 34:44 because one, you're on the campus of 3ABN, 34:47 so you have access to 3ABN and all of its stuff, 34:51 but you're individual in that, 34:54 your students are your students. 34:56 Yes. 34:57 And if we get an opportunity to maybe plug them into 3ABN, 34:59 we do so 35:01 'cause that part of the extracurricular stuff 35:03 that you do, but this is... 35:05 you may be the greatest unknown, 35:08 unseen but unknown secret in Adventism 35:11 because you're doing some wonderful stuff. 35:13 You've got ARISE training. Yes. 35:15 So you got that solid Bible background, 35:17 you've got an Andrews University degree, 35:19 so you've got a great marriage of two individuals 35:22 who are passionate about what you're doing, 35:24 and this is why this is such an important thing 35:27 why we're giving it this time because this is a great place. 35:31 If you don't quite know what you do, 35:32 you hear the call of God in your mind, 35:34 "Hey, I need to do something for the call of Christ, 35:36 but I don't know what to do." 35:37 This may give you an opportunity 35:39 to kind of sort out the call, 35:41 and to combine an exciting career 35:45 with ministry, with evangelism 35:48 that is an unbeatable combination. 35:50 Yeah, we've actually, 35:51 because we've developed partnerships 35:53 with other ministries throughout the church, 35:54 many in the Adventist church 35:55 recognized that media is where we need to be moving. 35:57 Yes. 35:58 They don't have anyone to do it and so they're asking us, 36:00 "When your interns are finished, 36:01 would you be willing to let them know 36:03 that we have openings." 36:04 So when people come, it's like film school, 36:07 evangelism school together, 36:08 but when you leave, 36:09 you have skills that can literally lead 36:11 to immediate employment once you leave. 36:12 Yeah. 36:14 So different ministries throughout the church, 36:15 self supporting and conference are like have interests 36:17 in what it is that we are doing to receive these interns 36:20 once they've finished to come work for them. 36:22 And as you well know, most ministries don't care 36:24 what degree you have, 36:25 they wanna know what skill level you have. 36:27 Correct. 36:28 And so you're turning out people with skill level 36:29 and that's what ministries want, 36:31 they want people who know what they're doing, 36:32 plus they want people who are spiritual. 36:33 Yes. 36:35 And I think that's an integral part 36:36 of what you're trying to do, we don't... 36:37 as you well said, we don't want to just turn out a technician, 36:39 we want to turn out a minister, who has the technical skills. 36:43 And that's a great thing. Exactly. 36:45 Yeah. 36:46 So I guess... 36:48 Yeah. 36:49 ..there's been so many miracles 36:51 that have happened as we've started this thing, 36:53 and you know, 36:57 God doesn't always open the path right away, 36:59 and that was one of the scary things 37:01 that I had to realize in stepping forward 37:03 was that God had put this place, 37:05 this burden on my heart, 37:07 and he had never withdrawn it, it remained there, 37:10 and he told me 37:13 one summer that it was time to move forward with it. 37:16 And so I realized, well, if we're gonna run a school, 37:20 there's some things what we need, 37:21 we need a place to stay, we need a house, 37:23 we need transportation, we need people, 37:26 instructors to teach, 37:27 and that was part of the miracle of God 37:29 providing you, Dee, 37:32 and some others to come and help. 37:34 And Liz too, 37:35 'cause she has the unique gifting in the sense 37:36 that she studied media 37:38 but she also studied business 37:40 so is our director of development 37:41 and she does graphic design. 37:43 So God has been very faithful to us, 37:44 to bring us multi-gifted people 37:46 'cause we can't bring in seven different departments 37:48 worth of people at this stage with our budget. 37:50 Right. 37:51 But God bringing people like Liz and like myself that have, 37:53 you know, I've had to run unprofitable 37:55 for I've been lot of networking before, 37:57 Ryan having technical skills, 37:58 he can problem solve anything, whether it be manual, 38:01 labor or media, 38:02 God has been really good to us 38:04 even though it may be a small team, 38:05 there's broad gifting that he's given us, 38:07 and we're grateful for that. 38:08 Liz, I just wanna ask you, 38:10 you've been here a little while, 38:11 from what you saw your coming to, 38:13 to what God has you doing now. 38:15 Give me some sense of how God is unfolding this 38:18 and opening it up, opening it up to you? 38:22 Well, I feel a lot more comfortable doing media, 38:25 where I have been for such a long time. 38:28 And coming here to Unscene, 38:31 it has helped me develop a lot of my business skills, 38:34 just coming out fresh out of college 38:36 and so it has really stretched me along ways. 38:39 I've learned a lot of new things and... 38:42 Stretched is an understatement. 38:45 It's been great and also just interacting 38:48 with the interns too, the ladies, 38:52 trying to become their friend 38:53 and also just 38:57 the whole experience of evangelism, 38:59 and media is something that I'm very passionate about too. 39:03 But to also put in the business side 39:06 has been interesting for me and I've enjoyed it so far. 39:10 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 39:12 By the way, the good cook you were asking about, 39:13 it's her. 39:18 We have heard, the rumor has leaked out 39:20 and we praise the Lord for that. 39:22 How has your spiritual life been impacted since being here? 39:27 Well, like I said before, you know, 39:29 I just graduated from college and you know, 39:32 when you're in school you do have to take initiative 39:35 for some of the things that you do on your own, 39:37 but just coming out into the real world, 39:39 it really has pushed me 39:42 to seek for myself a lot of answers, 39:47 and just the atmosphere that we have here too. 39:53 I've mentioned to some of my friends, 39:56 and my parents, and my siblings 39:57 that I feel like I'm a teenager all over again, 40:00 because I need to figure out what I'm... 40:03 what I'm like and what my beliefs are 40:06 and everything. 40:07 And just been here at UnScene Media 40:09 has really helped me to establish 40:12 what I really believe in. 40:14 What I want to... 40:17 how I want to minister to others. 40:19 And just the example that I have here 40:21 with these two gentlemen as well. 40:23 Praise the Lord. Praise God. 40:24 You know, we talk about miracles. 40:26 I don't get over opening that often. 40:28 But I happen to go by there a few months ago 40:30 and I saw this really nice, beautiful, new home back there. 40:34 And came to find out that that's... 40:38 that's yours. 40:39 That's our place. Yeah. 40:41 That's the miracle story we're gonna tell you. 40:42 So that's... 40:43 and that's the token miracle. 40:45 I think we have a picture that we can share 40:46 of that coming in there or... 40:48 Oh, man. Yeah. 40:49 No backhoe, just a garden hoe in our backs. 40:51 That's how this thing went in there. 40:52 Excellent. 40:54 Another picture of the house actually coming in 40:56 when they brought it in. 40:58 And it was a miracle how this thing happened. 41:00 'Cause we didn't have money to do anything. 41:03 I couldn't even pay my bills from month to month. 41:05 But God impressed me to go 41:07 and look for a mobile home 41:09 that we could install there on the property 41:11 after we'd talk with 3ABN 41:13 and agreed on how it would work, etc. 41:16 And so I found this, the perfect unit. 41:19 We did some customizations to it, 41:20 so that it would fit kind of our dorm type 41:23 living environment and what we would need. 41:25 And it was gonna cost about $100,000. 41:28 Where you're gonna get $100,000 from? 41:30 Well, for somebody that doesn't have money, 41:32 you go and you ask the bank, 41:33 "Hey, can you loan me a $100,000. Right? 41:35 For somebody who doesn't have income, 41:38 the chances of you getting that, probably not, right? 41:41 Yeah. 41:43 But we were praying through it 41:45 and through a series of miracles... 41:47 We don't have time to share all the details 41:49 even though they are incredible. 41:51 God allowed the loan to be approved 41:55 with a $10, 000 down payment. 41:57 Where we're gonna get $10,000 from? 42:00 I had no idea. 42:03 But God brought us in contact with the right people and... 42:07 Yeah. 42:08 They were actually my former landlords. 42:10 So I lived in Tennessee, and they... 42:13 I was taking care of their house 42:14 when I lived there, 42:16 because they live in California now. 42:17 Rod and Mary Cassatt are their names. 42:19 And they started a foundation, 42:20 they lost their daughter tragically. 42:21 And a reckless driver hit their daughter head on. 42:24 19 years old, their only child and she died a few years ago. 42:29 And they determined that they were not gonna 42:31 let the legacy of her life end there. 42:33 And they started a foundation... 42:35 they were just starting a foundation. 42:36 When I had spoken to Ryan 42:38 and he agreed to come to UnScene Media Group, 42:40 in her honor and her memory, 42:41 to support ministries like ours that she was involved in. 42:45 And so I said, "You need to meet Ryan 42:47 at the general conference." 42:48 And so Ryan met him, he spoke with him 42:50 about their history of what we were doing, 42:51 what we're wanting to do, what our needs are. 42:53 And literally, the day that that loan was approved, 42:56 they called Ryan saying, 42:58 "Hey, we've been praying about it 42:59 and we've decided that we want to give you the down payment 43:01 for this house." 43:02 Not knowing that the loan was approved that day. 43:04 Yes. They didn't know. 43:05 So the very day the loan is approved, 43:07 we get an unsolicited phone call... 43:08 Praise God. 43:09 ..and from these dear friends of ours... 43:11 Excellent. 43:12 ..who gave the money 43:14 for the down payment on the house. 43:15 Yeah. 43:16 Which could never happened were not further open at once. 43:18 That's God's timing. It is. 43:19 And isn't it interesting that you are housed 43:23 on the original two acres... 43:24 Yes. 43:26 ..of the 3ABN miracle story. 43:27 And we've seen tons more miracles. 43:28 In fact, if someone wants to hear more of that story, 43:31 they can just type, The UnScene story, 43:33 in YouTube or if you just type UnScene Media Group 43:36 and you'll find it listed there. 43:37 We're actually gonna upload it to our YouTube page as well. 43:39 But... 43:40 Just make sure you spell UnScene. 43:41 U-N-S-C-E-N-E Media Group, yes. 43:44 Another miracle that we had was, 43:47 we had told the UnScene story actually at a church. 43:50 Small rural church in a state in the south. 43:52 And a friend of mine was a pastor there, 43:54 he wanted me to preach before I left the south, 43:56 couldn't, so I came back later. 43:58 And we told the story, he says, 43:59 "Look, I will only do more than a speaker's remuneration. 44:01 Just give me a few minutes, few days, like 10 days, 44:04 we had a board meeting." 44:05 Sits down in the board and says, 44:06 "I wanna help these guys out. 44:08 I think we need to do something big." 44:10 And the one person that wasn't there when we preached 44:12 that sermon says, 44:13 "I think we should give them $200" 44:14 And everybody in the board yells at him and says, 44:16 "Absolutely not!" 44:17 And so, then we end up... 44:20 He says, "All right, well, what do you think?" 44:21 One person says, "$2000" and my Pastor friend thinks, 44:24 "This is amazing" because he got the poker face. 44:26 He just sits and he says, "Is there a second?" 44:29 Someone else says, "I think, we need to do more than that. 44:30 Well, let's give them $4000." 44:32 And there's this bidding war amongst the board members. 44:35 And the last number that ends at being said 44:37 in that board meeting with no... 44:39 Every time he says, "Is there a second?" 44:40 the number kept going up, $10,000. 44:43 See, a 75 member church in the south 44:46 gave a self-supporting ministry, 44:48 a church-supporting ministry, $10,000. 44:50 Yes, yes, yes. 44:52 And the last miracle that we had was, recently, 44:56 there's a lady who is kind of the heiress 44:59 to a large food corporation in the United States. 45:03 They own a lot of the food brands. 45:06 Somehow, someone she works with 45:07 got a hold of our stuff on YouTube. 45:09 They are not Seventh-day Adventists. 45:11 Just leading up to this though because just to set the stage. 45:15 I was going through a really difficult... 45:16 We were all going through a really difficult time. 45:18 Because we were stretched then, we are not making it 45:20 from month to month with bills that we have, 45:23 we are fallen behind with this and that. 45:25 And it's just been really stressful. 45:28 And just for those that think 45:30 that leading a ministry is glamorous, it's not. 45:35 And not just with the financial challenges 45:37 that we've had, but also 45:39 just so many personal attacks in different ways. 45:42 Just, you know, the devil knows exactly 45:45 what he can do to discourage each individual person 45:47 and he pushes those buttons. 45:49 And it had been really difficult, 45:51 I was struggling. 45:52 We just came back from a week of prayer. 45:54 And we couldn't afford for the... 45:58 just the expenses that month. 46:00 And I was stressed out, 46:01 I was pulling out with little hair I have here. 46:04 And it was just that evening, 46:07 you know, we're praying about it, 46:08 and I went, and I picked up this letter 46:10 from the post office, 46:11 and inside of there, opened it up, 46:15 and it said that, 46:17 "Hey, we are..." 46:19 this organization wanted to give us a grant for $5000. 46:24 And I thought, "Well, that's weird, 46:26 that's not usually how grants work." 46:28 We need to apply for that grant. 46:30 We didn't know who they are. 46:31 Yes, yes, we gotta go beg a little bit. 46:32 Open it up and how out comes the check for $5000. 46:35 Praise the Lord. The check was in the envelope. 46:36 Like, they didn't... 46:38 No screening, no send to something, 46:39 and they will send you, like literally, 46:40 never heard of them before. 46:42 First communication in front of them is a $5000 check. 46:44 Wow. 46:46 And just tell us, what you did with it? 46:47 Yeah. 46:48 So we've seen lots of miracles like this 46:50 to get us out of holes, you know, along the way, 46:53 but it's been a continual battle. 46:55 It's still a battle even now 46:56 where that has been the case but... 46:58 Yeah, we just had crazy things happened just every month. 47:00 Yeah. Yeah. 47:02 And not explainable like, I shared with you, Dee, 47:06 last night that... 47:08 Right before we were planning to come in 47:09 and record this program that issue with the website. 47:13 Our website, which we would be pitching for this, 47:17 obviously, telling people 47:18 how to find more information about us. 47:19 Just yesterday, he found out that 47:21 when you go to our website, when you click certain links, 47:24 someone has hacked into the website 47:25 and it's now re-directing people to adult websites 47:28 with immoral content on them. 47:30 And our donor page, specifically, 47:32 was the one that's doing this. 47:33 We didn't ask for this, we didn't do it, obviously, 47:35 and so we had to temporarily kind of shut it down 47:40 to get it where it can be, 47:41 you know, fixed and working again. 47:42 But it's been a little battles like 47:44 that just keep coming along the way 47:46 which tells me that somebody believes in us. 47:47 There you go. 47:49 That may be the greatest testament 47:50 that you're doing work for the Lord 47:52 because the devil is and you have to forgive 47:53 my pejorative of English messing with you. 47:54 Yeah. 47:56 You know, and when the devil is disturbed, 47:57 then something good is about to happen. 47:59 Yeah. 48:00 Lord knows it and he knows it too. 48:02 A number of things I want to touch on 48:04 because we can't direct you to a website just now, 48:07 but how would they make contact 48:09 should someone want to? 48:11 Because this is good stuff. 48:12 Yeah, by the time I think the people see this 48:13 is we'll probably have that resolved, but there is... 48:15 It would be www.UnScene.me 48:21 If that happens to not be functioning at the time, 48:23 you can email Ryan or myself 48:25 in the interim at Ryan@UnScene.me, 48:29 or Dee@UnScene.me. 48:32 And there'll be, I think, 48:34 a slide at the end that shows our phone number as well 48:35 that will there and our mailing address 48:37 those will on the, I think the graphic at the end. 48:39 Okay. 48:40 And also if you really want to call 3ABN, 48:43 we know where these guys lives, 48:44 we can find them, we can track them down for you. 48:48 Because I first of all, really believe in this, 48:51 and I think this may be 48:52 one of the greatest secrets in Adventism 48:55 that a group is doing something. 48:56 And you have contacts from church entities 48:59 that are calling you to do this kind of things. 49:01 And these are ways 49:02 that you make money to fund your ministry. 49:03 Absolutely. 49:05 So like we build partnerships 49:06 with the Revival and Reformation Committee 49:08 of the General Conference, 49:09 ASI, GYC, 49:10 The Adventist Review, Wildwood, 49:14 nets of evangelism centers. 49:15 So whether it be self-supporting ministries 49:17 and conference and departments at the General Conference, 49:19 they all really appreciate and value 49:21 what it is that we are doing, and they want to work with us, 49:23 they want to partner with us. 49:24 So the jobs and opportunities we have, 49:26 the difficulty is right now 49:27 we having to rent equipment for each of these paid jobs. 49:31 So basically we breakeven, 49:32 so like the concert he was talking about earlier, 49:34 we broke even. 49:35 So we did get paid for that concert 49:36 but those types of things, 49:38 our biggest needs right now we're just, 49:39 you know, systematic benevolence, 49:42 continual monthly giving from people and equipment. 49:45 Those are the two big things. Yeah. 49:46 God has provided every step of the ways for us 49:48 to ensure that stuff gets done, 49:51 but for us to be able to have our business model thrive, 49:52 those are the main things. 49:54 Yeah, yeah. 49:55 And I'm kind of begging this point 49:57 because what we want know is that, first of all, 49:58 this is squarely in the trajectory 50:00 of the Adventist Church. 50:01 This is not some off group, some place. 50:03 They have contracts, and connections, 50:05 and contacts with the Adventist Church. 50:07 And some of their clients 50:08 are entities of the Adventist Church 50:09 along with supporting ministries as 3ABN is. 50:12 So when you send your child here 50:14 or if you are considering this, you get solid Adventist stuff. 50:20 This is not some obscure kind of thing. 50:21 Right. 50:23 Your child or you will come out stronger. 50:24 You'll come out with a skill 50:26 but you also come out 50:27 with a heart leaning towards evangelism 50:30 which is just as important. 50:31 And when we preach at churches, 50:33 we preach at Adventist Churches, 50:34 we preach at conference schools, 50:35 self-supporting schools, 50:37 we do week of prayers and speaking engagements. 50:38 We haven't had any issues 50:40 on being accepted in any places. 50:41 Okay. We've been very fortunate. 50:43 Let me add this since having heard you preach, 50:45 you ain't bad, man. 50:46 Yeah, Lord is good. Praise God. 50:47 And you preach the gospel. 50:49 Now let's go to the address roll right now 50:50 before our time runs out 50:51 and we'll lose this opportunity. 50:53 Should you wanna make contact with UnScene Media Group, 50:56 here's how you can do precisely that. 51:00 If you would like to contact UnScene Media Group 51:03 or learn more about IDEA Training, 51:06 you can do so by writing to UnScene Media Group, 51:10 PO Box 129, Thompsonville, 51:13 Illinois, 62890. 51:16 That's UnScene Media Group, PO Box 129, 51:21 Thompsonville, Illinois, 62890. 51:24 You can call 618- 310-3431. 51:29 That's 618- 310-3431. 51:33 You can also visit them online at UnScene.me 51:37 that's U-N-S-C-E-N-E.me. 51:47 That's the information you need. 51:48 Now we... 51:50 before we get away from this, give me some sense, 51:53 when does film camp start? 51:55 How many students can you accommodate? 51:57 And how long is it? 51:59 So, they run in the summer 52:02 and sometimes we do multiple of them 52:04 depending on the summer. 52:06 Sometimes we'll work with other organizations 52:07 to put them on at their location. 52:10 But it's usually around June, July time. 52:14 And all the information is on the website. 52:17 So if you want to go and find out information, 52:19 you can go to www.UnScene.me/FilmCamp 52:25 Excellent. 52:26 So it's done in the summer time when young people 52:28 are out of school. 52:29 Correct. 52:30 And that was... 52:32 Now your regular curriculum, 52:33 the three students that we had before is how long? 52:34 How long do you sort of keep them in? 52:36 Nine months. 52:37 Nine months? Yeah. 52:39 From September through May. 52:40 So basically the length of a school year. 52:41 A school year, yeah, yeah. 52:43 And you can let them, commit them to that. 52:44 Yeah. 52:45 We want to go to our newsbreak, 52:47 then I want to come back 52:48 and deal with some rubber meets the road kind of stuff 52:50 because they have financial needs, 52:51 this is a great, great ministry, 52:53 one that we can support, you supporting. 52:57 We'll talk about that on the other side. 52:58 Our news break just now, 53:00 then we'll be back with those closing thoughts. |
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