Participants: C. A. Murray (Host), Larren Cole
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016091A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:10 Hello and welcome to a very special 3ABN Today 01:13 and we're coming to you from the ASI meetings 01:16 for 2016 here in Phoenix, Arizona. 01:19 It is hot outside but it's pretty cool inside 01:23 and we're praising the Lord. 01:24 I've got my buddy Shelley Quinn with me, 01:26 Shelley, good to have you here. 01:27 It's lovely to be here as always. 01:29 And Shelley figures very intimately and intricately 01:32 into the programme we're going to be talking about today. 01:34 This is gonna be a very fun program 01:36 and a very exciting program. 01:37 Our guest is Lauren Cole. 01:40 He of Desire Media, president, 01:43 speaker, director, cook, 01:45 bottle washer, he does it all. 01:46 Janitor, yeah. 01:48 Lauren good to have you here... 01:49 Janitor when necessary, yeah. 01:50 Let me give you the punch line first, 01:52 because Shelley is a part of this 01:53 and we are very, very excited. 01:57 We're going to show you 01:58 before this program shall have ended, 02:00 a video entitled The Seventh-day Beavers. 02:07 Seventh-day Beavers, yeah. 02:09 And this is an exciting thing you know the Bible says, 02:12 Shelley in Psalms 19:1 02:14 that "Evidently clear the glory of God 02:16 and the Earth shows his handiwork." 02:19 And really is race and tells us 02:22 that I think look in nature 02:24 as you study nature not only plants and flowers 02:27 but animals all be speak the creative power of God. 02:31 And this is something that Lauren and his family 02:34 they're all a part of this media project. 02:38 They put together, they saw something, 02:41 they began to record something 02:42 and they saw the hand of God in nature 02:46 and that's what we're going to be talking about 02:48 for the next several moments. 02:49 The project is the Seventh-day Beavers, 02:52 it is a video project. 02:54 Shelley and I have both watched it. 02:55 Shelley is in it. 02:57 I'm going to talk to her about that in just a moment 02:58 but Lauren, we want to start on how many years 03:01 did it take you to put this thing together? 03:03 Okay. 03:04 I started the project in the year 2000 03:06 and so I had and the first part of it was intensely studying 03:11 and filming and video and documenting 03:13 for the first two years 03:14 and then maybe three years to two or three years 03:17 but then I'm an ongoing all the way till 2016. 03:20 So we decided to production on this video. 03:22 The video took us three years which started three years ago. 03:25 And so, you know, 03:26 we really re-went into it 03:28 with a lot of intensity 03:29 and so the last three years more of the same, 03:31 every day out for hours and hours 03:33 out there observing this family Beaver 03:35 following them up and down the creek, 03:37 you know, because they move a little bit. 03:38 So we're moving around in the snow. 03:40 You'll see in the video 03:41 that there's some of the worst weather 03:43 but so a total of actually 16 years. 03:46 If you want to be. 03:47 you know, nitti about, you know, 16 years altogether. 03:50 Wow. 03:51 But the first two years, intense 03:53 What caught your attention 03:54 to get you started on this quest? 03:56 Well, you know, I never would have even noticed 03:58 beavers resting if it hadn't 04:00 for my friend of mine named Bill. 04:02 When we were living in Southern California, 04:04 before we moved up to the National Forest area. 04:06 Bill rented our garage from us 04:08 to offset our rent a little bit. 04:10 He told me one day, before we moved up here, 04:12 he told me about these bees 04:14 that lived in the orange groves out there, 04:15 they would fly in these certain patterns 04:17 but on Saturday, he just told me out of the blue 04:20 on Saturdays they don't fly anymore 04:22 and it didn't really mean much to me at the time 04:24 because I wasn't really religious 04:25 and, you know, I was in ministry, 04:27 it didn't mean anything but I remembered it. 04:29 And then when we moved up to the country 04:31 we would take Sabbath afternoon walks, 04:32 you know, that's what we do, we take Sabbath afternoon walks 04:35 and I came across this incredible beaver colony 04:38 and I was just like, Wow. 04:39 Obviously very busy animals, 04:41 they're building these dams and huge dams 04:44 and I would go on Saturdays, I never see the animals 04:46 but I would see what they would do. 04:49 Until one day, I went on a non Sabbath day 04:51 and there they were, I mean they were out 04:53 and about doing their thing, 04:55 you know, swimming with sticks 04:56 and you know and then I'd come back on Saturday, nothing. 04:59 And this happened, 05:00 this pattern went on for a little while 05:02 until finally, I remembered the bees, Bill's bees. 05:06 And in fact Bill is on the DVD, on the video 05:08 and so I remember I thought I wonder 05:10 if these beavers are like Bill's bees 05:12 and that they're not working on Saturday. 05:15 So that's why I decided to do a little experiment. 05:17 You know, this could be quite significant. 05:19 I thought to myself 05:21 and I didn't plan on making a video or any thing about it 05:23 but I wanted just for myself to do this experiment. 05:26 So that's when I decided, I'm going to go routinely, 05:30 Sunday through Saturday, 05:32 every week I'm going to go at a certain time every day 05:34 and I'm going to watch and I started on Monday. 05:37 I started filming and there they were every day of the way 05:39 and then the big day Saturday came along 05:41 and also they're not there anymore. 05:43 And so I thought they were dead at first 05:44 when this first happened, 05:46 I thought something happened to these beavers 05:47 they're not coming out they're gone, 05:49 what happened to my beavers. 05:50 So I snuck up to the lodge and sure enough, 05:52 I could hear him in there, 05:53 you know, it's like to have a little Bible study 05:55 in there or something 05:57 but you can hear chewing and you can, you know, eating. 05:59 In fact some of the sounds that I heard, 06:02 you can hear it from the outside of the lodge 06:04 are on the DVD, on the video and it was just incredible, 06:08 it struck me that this is this is amazing. 06:11 Week after week, another week same thing 06:14 Sunday through Friday 06:15 there they are, Saturday, no beavers. 06:17 And so that continued on and on and on 06:20 until I was thoroughly convinced 06:23 this is something you know what's happening here. 06:26 Was Desire Media created out of this project 06:29 or did Desire exist before this project? 06:31 Desire Media existed 06:33 when my children were very young. 06:35 It was actually called Desire of all Children. 06:37 We were making a book and video series 06:39 about the desire of ages, for children 06:41 and so we started filming 06:43 and making little pictures and it's for our kids. 06:45 I wanted them to fall in love with my favourite book, 06:47 the desire of ages 06:48 and I wanted them to grow up with that with that background. 06:50 So we started doing that we got into 06:52 about maybe five or six book and video series 06:55 and then we got involved in other media projects, 06:58 let that go, it was kind of a lot of work 07:00 and it was... 07:01 And the kids kind of grew up and then we started getting 07:02 called into to preaching in different churches 07:05 I started doing that and then 07:08 and then my kids started filming that 07:10 and so Desire Media grew out of that. 07:11 We changed the name from Desire of all children. 07:13 We didn't change it. 07:15 We just added a DVA of Desire Media, 07:18 so now it's Desire Media, 07:19 we're 501c (3) we're incorporating. 07:22 Now you and your wife Mickey both have a health background. 07:24 Yes. 07:25 Do you not? Yeah. 07:26 we're both graduates, Loma Linda University, 07:28 me in physical therapy her in dental hygiene and so. 07:32 But I actually retired... You did that for many years? 07:34 Many years, I retired about the time 07:36 I started observing beavers. 07:38 When my wife was pregnant with our fifth child, Carter, 07:40 you know, Carter. 07:43 The Holy Spirit just spoke to me and said 07:44 it's time for you to quit and stay home be a parent, 07:46 you know, this is this is too much 07:48 for Mickey at home by herself. 07:50 So we, you know, I quit my job 07:52 and the Lord provided a little home business for us 07:55 that kind of grew and grew and grew 07:56 and then and then it shrunk and shrunk and shrunk. 08:00 In 2008 when the heavy economy tanked, 08:02 but our ministry just blossomed. 08:03 We were called into evangelism 08:05 in the Gulf states in '09 and in '10 08:08 and I developed this real evangelistic series. 08:12 I wrote a whole series of study guides for that series 08:14 and then we were appalled by the conferences 08:17 in the Gulf states 08:18 and we started doing public evangelism. 08:22 And then we moved back out to the West Coast 08:25 after the tornadoes hit us and 2011. 08:27 We're out of there. 08:28 My wife wanted nothing more to do with the South. 08:31 So we moved back to our home and in the West Coast 08:33 and then the Oregon conference started calling 08:35 and now and then the Northern California 08:37 and now we're all over the place now. 08:38 Very good, very good. 08:40 Now Shelley, you were mentioning to me 08:42 just before we came on air that you observed some, 08:44 you and JD observed some similar phenomena 08:48 because your husband is a avid bird watcher, 08:50 and we've been out with you. 08:52 He loves watching birds, 08:53 but you seen this kind of phenomenon 08:54 on Sabbath too, haven't you? 08:56 Yes, you know, I really hadn't put it together 08:58 till I was speaking with Lauren 09:00 and he was telling me about that and we would go out, 09:03 we would take people out 09:05 at the crab orchard in reserve 09:11 and you go out there and bird watch 09:13 or see the deer and the turkey, 09:16 but there's a family of beavers 09:18 and we'd go out sometimes on Sundays 09:20 taking other people out to show them 09:22 and they'd be there 09:23 but when we go out on Sabbath afternoons, 09:26 we wouldn't see them and I never even really, 09:28 you know, we'd always thankful 09:29 these are lazy beavers where are they? 09:32 And never really had made that connection. 09:35 And we haven't gotten several testimonies 09:37 from people who have been supporting 09:38 the production of our project here. 09:41 The same story exactly what Shelley just said. 09:43 But we can't you, let's say 09:45 'cause we want to be perfectly clear 09:47 is that you don't know for sure 09:49 there's not been enough of a deep study 09:51 to know that if this is truly the pattern of all beavers 09:55 but it is fascinating. 09:56 Yeah. 09:58 This is just one family of beavers 09:59 over several generations. 10:01 I have to say though 10:02 that I have seen beavers out on Sabbath not these beavers 10:05 but I have seem some beavers out on Saturday, 10:08 in fact just this year, 10:09 we went up to a place called dismal swamp, 10:11 different area 10:13 and we saw some beavers on a Saturday. 10:16 But it was during the day, it was probably like 6:00 pm, 10:22 actually technically the sun was behind the mountain 10:24 when I saw them out. 10:25 It was daytime but they were behind a big tall mountain 10:28 and they were swimming around I'm going, 10:29 "What you guys doing?" 10:31 So they achieved 10:32 as of the Sabbath a little bit, Shelley. 10:34 Yeah, yeah, thy were tramping... 10:35 But these beavers, the one I observed, 10:37 I've never see them out of their lodge on Saturday. 10:39 Friday night sundown to Saturday night sundown. 10:41 So you see that there and you see that also. 10:43 So there is a pattern to be found 10:45 and maybe some deep scientific study is to be done 10:49 but your 16 years and that's a fairly decent 10:51 slice of a person's life over the six... 10:54 Now all seasons spring, summer, winter, fall. 10:56 Spring summer, yeah. 10:57 Beavers are a little less active 10:58 where we live in the, in the winter time 11:00 but they don't hibernate 11:01 so they do come out in the winter time. 11:02 Not quite as often 11:04 never on, these ones never on Saturday so, 11:06 and that's in the video, you'll see 11:09 but because we do have some closing shots 11:11 in this like Shelley saw it, it in this terrible blizzard. 11:14 Yeah. 11:16 We go out any time, I mean, we'll go out, 11:17 we want to see what... 11:18 I love the snow anyway so beavers don't really it 11:21 but they don't hibernate, they should hibernate 11:24 but I wish they, they did 11:25 because some of the winners are pretty hard up there. 11:27 So Shelley when you got the call to be a part of this, 11:29 it not strange for you 11:31 because you had seen this phenomena. 11:32 Yes. 11:33 Well, actually it was at the 2015 ASI, 11:37 where Lauren approached me about doing this 11:39 and it was just so fascinating 11:41 when he told me about it and he said, 11:43 would you mind making a comment on the Sabbath, 11:45 and I said not at all. 11:47 I think the input Shelley has in there 11:49 is the best we have in the video 11:51 because she comes out with, I mean, we wanted, 11:53 we didn't want this just to be a testimony in nature video, 11:57 we wanted some theology in it, you know, there's a lot about. 11:59 The Sabbath in the video and it has... 12:01 One comment came back from another supporter 12:03 who said everything about the Sabbath is in that video, 12:06 anything you want to know. 12:07 We have three major theological questions. 12:13 Let's see what were the three questions 12:14 so when you answered all three of them. 12:16 I don't think... disputable. 12:18 What's so special about Saturday 12:20 that would cause an animal to rest? 12:22 Okay, then does the Bible mention 12:25 anything about animals resting on Sabbath 12:27 and then if Saturday is the Sabbath day. 12:30 Why do Christians 12:31 all over the world go to church on Sunday? 12:33 And so we slip that in the video. 12:36 This video makes an excellent sharing tool, 12:39 I think, in my opinion. Oh, yeah. 12:41 It is something that people will be interested in 12:43 because it is fascinating about... 12:46 I mean it's different. It's documentary on beavers. 12:50 I'm an evangelist so this is an incredible tool. 12:53 You know, I'm going to use this. 12:54 This is about the Sabbath. 12:56 And it's done in sort of a documentary style 12:57 it is not particularly preachy. 13:00 It's done. 13:01 Here's a fact that we're trying to prove. 13:03 We've observed something and here is what we believe 13:06 that this means and, of course, your whole family was involved, 13:10 your son's, you got three big boys, big tall boys. 13:13 In fact, Jackson, now Jackson, the middle one, 13:16 the tallest one, he's our producer, 13:18 he's the guy that has all the... 13:19 I don't know where he got it but it's instinct, 13:21 you know, he's got the brains, he can edit. 13:24 I mean, he's got a... 13:25 He develops apps for Apple and, you know, 13:27 he's got one of best selling apps in France, 13:31 from time to time he's got... 13:33 And so he is... 13:34 I don't know where he gets all the skills 13:36 but he can work for cameras. 13:37 He can you know he does a computer stuff 13:39 and all this technical stuff, Jackson is the man. 13:42 And when we first started, 13:44 when I first started observing the beavers 13:45 it was in the year 2000 that was when Jackson was born. 13:48 I used to put Jackson in the backpack. 13:50 When I would go observe beavers and the little round there 13:52 and he's in the pacifier. 13:54 And he's out there with me, 13:56 now he's grown up and he's produced a video 13:57 about this whole project. 13:59 Wow. Praise the Lord. So it's really. 14:00 That's kind of fascinating. 14:02 And your sons have, each have a great testimony. 14:03 Yeah. They really, really do. 14:05 And so Alex is in it too and Carter 14:08 and the girls, the girls are in. 14:09 Because they helped, 14:11 they did a lot of observing 14:12 and I dragged them up there 14:14 and, you know, particularly on Saturday. 14:15 Saturday is kind of a boring day 14:17 to go to watch beavers 14:18 'cause we have nothing happening there. 14:19 And we would spend extra time on Saturday 14:21 like hours and hours five six hours 14:23 just waiting something you know. 14:25 Yeah. 14:26 And so it was... 14:27 I remember one time on... 14:29 You know it was Sabbath, it was getting late in the day, 14:30 wasn't watching the clock, 14:32 we had been there for maybe five or six hours. 14:34 Nothing but, you know, we're objectively watching 14:36 because we want to know, if they come out on Saturday, 14:38 you know, we want to see that. 14:40 So I'm looking out there 14:42 and all of a sudden a beaver pops out of the pond, 14:44 and it's Sabbath 14:45 and I look at my watch and I go, 14:46 Oh, it's 8 o'clock, I thought it was like, 14:48 I thought he was cheating on me. 14:49 You know, coming out on Sabbath. 14:51 You know we looked up, 14:52 sun's behind and you know it's down, 14:54 it's 8 o'clock it's late in the day, 14:55 and the mountains are kind of big around there but... 14:59 so far never seen him out on Saturday. 15:00 So, I guess, they had just finished worship 15:02 it was time to come on out 15:04 and get a little air kind of thing. 15:05 But as you said Lauren it is and I think it's an excellent 15:09 way to introduce its someone to the Sabbath truth, 15:14 because it isn't meant to be necessarily... 15:20 well, it's a teaching tool. 15:21 It is not as you said a preaching tool. 15:24 And to just observe this is quite interesting. 15:28 Yeah, we believe this is going to be an excellent sharing too. 15:30 In fact, if you go to our website. 15:32 you can find an area 15:34 there where you can order these in sleeves 15:36 for really cheap in huge bulk, 15:38 hundreds of them 15:39 and I think it would make an excellent sharing tool. 15:41 Yeah. 15:42 Now when you do this, Lauren, you and family, 15:44 you didn't have in mind, okay, 15:45 going introduce this and make a lot of money. 15:47 You really have the idea of sharing your Sabbath belief 15:50 and the fact that God 15:51 is doing something that is demonstrably 15:53 that we can see that you can see. 15:55 Yeah. 15:56 And it's a way of introducing Sabbath 15:58 to maybe a sceptical mind or a scientific mind 16:01 or a person is not particularly disposed to go to church. 16:04 Here's a way to sort of bring Sabbath 16:05 to them in a very palatable way. 16:07 Yeah, who's going to argue with, 16:09 you know, these facts about an animal, right, 16:11 I mean, he's not trying to keep the Sabbath, 16:12 he's not like humans. 16:14 Humans, we've got to work at keeping this out. 16:16 With the beavers it's an instinct 16:18 with this family anyway. 16:19 And you mentioned making money. 16:21 I mean, let me tell you it costs us, I mean, dearly, 16:24 this is an expensive project over the years 16:26 so out of pocket, you know. 16:28 We had a number of supporters on the film 16:30 and there are credited in the credits 16:32 but I would say 90% of the production 16:35 came out of, you know, my pocket. 16:37 Family pocket. And our family pocket. 16:38 So it was, you know, was just a sacrifice. 16:40 I'm kind of glad it's over. 16:41 You don't think as I'm a little tired of all that 16:43 because you got to get back to business. 16:45 I know you got one vehicle that took an awful beating 16:48 during the time. 16:50 Yup, '96 Chevy Tahoe. Yeah. 16:54 Awesome vehicle that was 16:55 it was really helpful to have that 16:57 but we went through a lot of tyres, 16:58 lot of flat tyres and yeah that took a beating. 17:01 And it's for sale, by the way, 17:02 if anybody wants a beaver mobile, 17:04 we've got that on the market for sale. 17:06 And it's a nice vehicle 17:08 and it's really capable off road. 17:09 Indeed. 17:11 It's featured a little bit in the video. 17:12 Now along with Shelley and what she had to say 17:15 you had some other individuals 17:16 who came and gave some technical input, 17:20 some expertise in the video. 17:21 Yeah, that's a theological side. 17:22 They answer the Bible question, 17:24 we had Shelley and we had Dr Neil Natalie, 17:27 he had done some interesting studies on Sabbath keeping 17:31 and how it relates to depression 17:32 and versus resting on a different day of the week 17:36 and he contributes a significant story 17:40 in that regard. 17:41 And so he's in it and then my old partner, 17:43 Steve Wahlberg's in it. 17:45 So Steve Wahlberg's is in it, he contributes lot too, 17:48 especially, the last question 17:49 where we talk about 17:51 why do so many Christians keep Sunday, 17:53 if God's Sabbath is Saturday 17:54 and so he contributed to that a lot 17:56 and so he's in that 17:58 and we're happy to have him. 17:59 And then Jerry Bardy another good friend. 18:02 Jerry Bardy, a theologian and you know, 18:04 a guy maybe not a lot of people heard of 18:06 but he's a local for me too, good for the mind. 18:09 Lauren, tell us the story. 18:10 There's also a little part, I haven't seen this yet, 18:13 but I know you mentioned it was on the DVD 18:15 about the Seventh-Day Ox. 18:16 Yeah and that's a story a lot of people 18:18 who may have heard of the Seventh-Day Ox. 18:20 That's a story about a pastor name Nikolai Panchuk 18:23 who was thrown into a Siberian Russian prison 18:27 for I think it was for not working on Saturday 18:30 or for advocating Sabbath rest. 18:33 When he got out into prison, 18:34 it was a prison labour camp 18:36 and he was forced to work on Saturday 18:39 but he refused to work on Saturday. 18:41 So in exchange for his refusal, 18:43 he was confined in this little tiny box 18:44 for ten days at a time, 18:47 which nearly killed him. 18:48 Finally, he made a bargain with one of the wardens 18:50 that if he could get all his work done in six days. 18:54 Could he have the Sabbath off, 18:56 so the good hearted warden said, 18:58 "Okay, we'll give it a try." 18:59 And they gave him the an unfortunate task 19:02 of hauling water for the camp 19:04 with this horrible Ox 19:06 that was lumber some slow and just hard, 19:08 he had to beat to get it to go and everything. 19:10 So he would get going on Sunday 19:12 all the way through to Thursday, 19:14 he's way behind schedule, he's not going to make it. 19:16 But when Friday came, 19:17 the Ox would run all day long and in fact he said 19:20 he had trouble keeping up with the Ox. 19:21 So he would run all day long 19:23 and just before the sun would go down on Friday night, 19:26 he would have all the water hauled for the camp 19:28 and he would his Saturday's off. 19:30 And so that in there, 19:31 we've got maybe a two or three minute, 19:33 a little section 19:34 with the actual Russian prison camp, 19:38 a labor camp 19:39 and the guy coming back and then recounting 19:41 and actually meeting the warden 19:43 and so it's on there and it's an incredible story. 19:46 I've read studies that where Russia and other countries 19:50 have tried to change the 7-day work week 19:53 to 10-day work week 19:55 and they have found that 19:56 after six consecutive days of work, 19:59 if someone is not resting that seventh day, 20:03 behavioral analysis has seen that 20:05 the production goes way down 20:08 people become depressed, there's all kinds of things. 20:11 So God designed us. Yes. 20:13 There's a rhythm in there. 20:15 In fact, it was in France, I think, 20:17 where they tried to go to a 10-day work week 20:19 and that threw the whole nation into a, you know, a conundrum, 20:23 I guess, you could say 20:24 but it caused a lot of health problems. 20:26 Yes. 20:27 And, yeah, I think 20:29 there's a, they call circadian rhythms. 20:31 There's another rhythm it's not circadian 20:33 but it's another name for a 7-day cycle. 20:36 And we've got another supporter, 20:37 a doctor from South America 20:39 who is studying the circadian rhythms 20:41 and other rhythms that are biological rhythms 20:43 and have to do a 7-day cycle and he's very interested 20:46 and has been supporting this feature. 20:49 And, so, yeah, there's a lot of people 20:51 doing studies on that. 20:52 So just a few moments we're going to 20:54 let you see this wonderful video 20:55 and then give you some information 20:57 as to how you can contact. 20:58 But, Shelley, I joined Adventist Church young, 21:01 but you came from the first day keeping 21:03 to seventh day Sabbath keeping. 21:06 In just a minute, was it a strange thing for you. 21:08 Was it a natural settling in to you, 21:10 were you convinced that this was the right day. 21:12 Well, what happened for me was 21:14 when I went into full-time ministry, 21:16 the Lord impressed me to forget what I thought I know 21:19 and come sit at his feet, he'd teach me 21:21 and he took me on a study of the sanctuary 21:25 and that's when I found that the Ten Commandments 21:27 were inside the ark that the book of the Covenant 21:31 was on the side of the ark. 21:33 So that brought, you know, I started studying 21:36 and I praised God for Bible software 21:38 because I was able to study in the Hebrew and the Greek 21:41 and as I re-examined Colossians 2:14 21:47 and found that the commandments were not nailed to the cross. 21:50 But what it was, was the ceremonial law 21:53 then what happened to me 21:55 was the only thing I wasn't keeping... 21:57 Only commandment I wasn't keeping 21:59 was the Sabbath. 22:00 And for me the clincher was Exodus 31:13. 22:04 When I realized, you know, God is a covenant keeping God, 22:08 He always has a sign of his covenant. 22:12 With Noah the sign was the rainbow. 22:14 But actually the Sabbath, 22:17 He said it is a sign of his covenant of grace 22:20 because he said the Sabbath is a sign 22:23 that I am the one who is sanctifying you. 22:26 So you know for me 22:27 when I started celebrating the Sabbath 22:29 it was just like because I had all my life 22:33 been trying to save myself be good enough to save myself 22:37 and the Sabbath is a weekly reminder to me 22:40 that there is a coveted of grace 22:42 that God is the one that's working in me, 22:44 the willing to do is good pleasure and it's just... 22:47 Praise the Lord. It was wonderful. 22:49 So without further ado we want you to sit back 22:52 and really enjoy a good piece of video a good piece of work 22:55 but also a strong message about God's creative power 22:59 and the Seventh-day Sabbath, the fourth commandment, 23:03 here now the Seventh-day Beavers. 23:19 It all started when we moved out of the city. 23:23 We moved way up here, 23:26 way up to this remote area by the Modoc National Forest. 23:31 Here, I discovered this really neat beaver colony. 23:36 I was so excited by this close encounter with nature 23:41 that I started to film with a video camera. 23:45 That's when I made a remarkable observation. 23:49 These beavers were out and about 23:52 every day of the week except Saturdays. 23:55 I was never able to get any pictures on Saturdays. 24:01 So I decided to do a little study. 24:04 The incredible results, 24:06 I want to share with you in this documentary, 24:09 I call The Seventh-day Beavers. 24:30 Saturday, what's so special about it? 24:35 Why would Saturday be different than any other weekday? 24:42 Here I am in the forest watching beavers 24:46 and wondering why they work six days a week 24:49 and then rest on this one particular day. 24:54 Welcome to the Seventh-day Beavers, 24:58 the story of animals that rest. 25:07 So here's the question, 25:09 what's so special about Saturdays 25:12 that would cause something in nature 25:14 to recognize it. 25:17 Saturday is the seventh day of the week. 25:19 You can discover that by looking at any good dictionary 25:21 or encyclopedia. 25:23 It is also the original day that God rested on 25:26 when he created this world. 25:28 It says in the beginning of the Bible in Genesis 2:3 25:33 that God blessed the seventh day 25:35 and he sanctified it 25:37 because in it he had rested from all his work, 25:40 which God created and made. 25:42 If anything in nature still recognizes 25:46 the significance of the Sabbath. 25:48 It would be a remnant or a carry over 25:51 from the early days at the beginning of time. 25:55 In the Bible after God finished creating the world 25:58 in six literal days. 25:59 He created one more thing. 26:01 He created a day, Genesis 2 to tell us, 26:05 on the seventh day God rested from his work 26:08 which he had made and God blessed the seventh day 26:11 and sanctified it. 26:12 So right from the beginning of time we see 26:15 that the seventh day is special to the creator of this earth. 26:19 Then it Exodus, 26:21 He commanded his people to remember it by not working. 26:24 You also see in Isaiah 56 26:26 that God invited foreigners 26:28 to join with his people, Israel, 26:30 and to keep the Sabbath also. 26:34 In July, 1999, we made a big decision in our family. 26:40 We decided to move out of the city 26:44 and into the country. 26:48 My wife and I had both graduated from college. 26:51 We were both in debt. 26:53 We had our first two children 26:55 and we were living smack dab in the middle of a city 27:00 in a tract housing development. 27:03 One day after work I decided to stop off 27:06 at the local Christian bookstore. 27:08 And see if I can get a book to help to be a better parent. 27:15 While browsing through the Family section 27:18 my eye caught the sight of a book called 27:23 "Country Living." 27:25 This book really jumped off the shelf by itself 27:27 into my arms. 27:38 While perusing through the book, 27:41 I felt strongly impressed 27:42 that God wanted us to move out into the country. 27:48 But we had this problem of money 27:51 and us being starving students just out of college, 27:55 we would of course need jobs and so that doesn't come easy. 27:59 But about this time, 28:01 this little simple, little three bedroom house 28:03 was offered to us for free. 28:07 You know it's really not much 28:10 but it was free and that's about all we could afford. 28:13 That would give us a really good chance 28:14 to pay off our debts, 28:16 get on our feet a little bit. 28:18 Having a house for free is nice 28:20 but, of course, you're going to have to have jobs. 28:22 Way out here in the middle of nowhere 28:23 where would we find jobs, we work in hospitals. 28:28 So I decided to call the local hospital. 28:30 I call them up and I said to him, 28:34 I wanted to work four days a week as a physical therapist 28:37 and the reason four instead of five 28:39 is because I want to take one day off so my wife can work 28:42 who is a dental hygienist 28:44 and she wants to work one day a week. 28:46 So I told this to the man on the phone. 28:48 Then there were silent on the phone 28:50 for a little while. 28:51 Finally, he came back on 28:53 and he said did you say physical therapy for four days 28:55 and dental hygiene for one day? 28:57 I said, "Yeah." 28:58 He said, "That's funny." 28:59 We're looking for a dental hygienist 29:01 to work one day a week 29:02 and a physical therapist to work four days a week. 29:05 So God opened the doors up, 29:08 we moved into the house and we moved out of the country 29:11 and started our life here out in the country. 29:16 Yeah, you know that was pretty amazing 29:19 and that nearest hospital was about 40 miles away 29:23 and the fact that they were looking 29:24 for the exact same schedule told us 29:27 this must be a sign from God. 29:31 A free house, tailor-made jobs, 29:34 we did it, we made the big move. 29:43 So here we are in the country living amongst the Beavers 29:48 and to tell the truth, 29:49 I never would have even noticed them resting 29:52 if it wasn't for Bill. 29:57 Back when Larren and his family still lived Redlands, 30:00 California, I lived in their garage. 30:02 They ended up converting their garage 30:04 into an apartment then I rented it from them. 30:07 The property was surrounded by orange groves, 30:09 which means lots of bees. 30:11 Now I notice something very interesting 30:12 about these particular bees. 30:14 They flew in the same pattern each day 30:17 they go zooming by my garage every day 30:20 but on Saturdays, it was quiet. 30:23 No bees. 30:25 They didn't fly by on Saturday like they did on the other days 30:29 and I had to tell Larren about that. 30:36 Yeah, what Bill told me that day was pretty interesting 30:39 but it really didn't mean much to me at the time. 30:43 But I did remember it. 30:50 Let me take you up to the area where my beavers actually live. 30:59 When we finally moved up here, the thing that really contrasts 31:02 that our new home with our old home 31:05 was the mountains, 31:07 we fell in love with the mountains up here. 31:10 And since we didn't work on Saturdays, 31:13 I had time to come up here and explore the mountain. 31:16 That is on Saturdays. 31:24 One Saturday afternoon, I ran across a huge beaver dam. 31:37 Now this discovery fascinated me 31:39 so I came back again and again 31:42 hoping to see the beavers on Saturdays. 31:46 Saturday after Saturday I came back 31:49 but I never saw them and I wondered why? 31:53 Maybe beavers are just real sneaky reclusive animals. 31:59 But then I got a surprise. 32:02 I got a chance to go up to the beaver dam 32:04 on a different day. 32:06 And Wow! 32:07 There they were. 32:22 So here it is the home of the Seventh-day Beavers. 32:29 This creek in the national forest here 32:32 is only about 15 miles away from our home. 32:38 And over the years these beavers 32:40 have built several dams 32:42 some down the creek and others up the creek. 32:52 And after coming up to this particular dam 32:55 and visiting the beavers several times, 32:58 I finally begin to wonder 33:00 why wasn't I seeing them on Saturdays. 33:03 That's when I remembered the bees. 33:09 It finally hit me 33:10 what Bill said about the bees in Redlands. 33:13 How they didn't fly their usual patterns on Saturdays 33:17 and I thought bee's and beavers are kind of similar, 33:21 these live in colonies, 33:23 they work together in a highly organized manner 33:26 performing specific tasks that is to make honey. 33:30 I thought to myself, 33:32 now don't beavers do the same thing. 33:34 Well they don't make honey but they live in colonies 33:38 and they work together in a highly organized manner 33:41 performing a specific task that is building dams. 33:45 I wonder if somehow 33:47 these beavers are resting on Saturdays like Bill's bees. 33:52 And so that's when I decided to do a little experimenting. 33:57 So I decided to observe 33:59 the activity of the beavers on a routine, 34:02 weekly basis over a period of time. 34:06 Each weekday I'll come up at the same time 34:09 and record what I observe. 34:11 And, of course, I'll be using my trusty video camera 34:15 to help record the data. 34:18 Now according to what I've heard 34:20 beavers are most active early in the morning, 34:24 late in the evening and late at night. 34:27 Anyway, that worked well with my schedule, 34:30 since I had to work most weekdays. 34:33 So my plan was to observe them each morning early before work 34:38 and late each evening after work. 34:41 Then on Saturdays and Sundays, 34:43 I'd be able to spend a little extra time observing. 34:47 This will be fun I thought. 34:49 I'll pretend like 34:50 I'm a Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom nature film 34:53 or something. 34:54 So I went to work each day making my observations 34:59 and making notes to keep track of the data. 35:05 This is week one and it's Monday, 35:09 and there they are doing their thing. 35:16 They're very active swimming, 35:19 carrying branches around and eating. 35:25 They seem to be most active here in the evening 35:29 more so than in the morning. 35:33 So I'll make a note of this 35:36 in my beaver log and mark it down. 35:44 So I went to work starting on a Monday. 35:48 I continued observing the next day. 35:56 So it's Tuesday and they are very active today. 36:02 Sure enough there they were still at it. 36:05 Swimming, splashing, eating all the normal beaver activity. 36:11 And the next day, Wednesday, there they were still busy. 36:16 I also got a chance to see 36:17 quite a variety of other wildlife too. 36:22 I think there's a big Sandhill crane out here. 36:29 Two, big Sandhill cranes are over there. 36:35 I even saw a baby black bear right here in the same spot. 36:44 Thursday. 36:45 Just like the previous day, the beavers were still busy. 36:58 On Friday, same thing, swimming, splashing, eating, 37:03 the beavers were consistently active 37:06 Monday through Friday at the same time each day. 37:13 Now the next day was Saturday, 37:16 the first Saturday of the experiment. 37:19 What will I see when I come tomorrow. 37:26 So here's a question 37:27 does the Bible mention anything anywhere 37:31 about an animal resting on Sabbath? 37:35 Well, what the Bible says, actually what Jesus said 37:38 is that Sabbath was made for man. 37:41 And when we think about that 37:43 he is saying this is the day 37:45 that God has given you as a gift. 37:47 But in fact, 37:48 the fourth commandment does mention 37:50 animals being involved in that 37:52 because it says in it, on this Sabbath, 37:55 you shall do no work, not you, your son or your daughter, 37:59 your manservant, your maidservant 38:00 nor your cattle nor your stranger 38:02 that was within your gates. 38:04 The cattle are to rest. 38:06 These were normally working animals 38:10 but not only the cattle even the strangers 38:12 that were to visit them. 38:13 Anyone who was on the property was not to work on the Sabbath. 38:19 One other time, 38:20 the Bible mentions loosing an Ox 38:22 to lead it to water on the Sabbath 38:23 which indicates it's resting from the work 38:26 it normally would be doing for a man on the Sabbath day. 38:31 And so yes working animals were to rest on the Sabbath. 38:39 Okay. It's Saturday and this is amazing. 38:43 There's nothing absolutely nothing. 38:47 Completely still. 38:49 I'm here the same time as yesterday 38:51 when they were out about swimming 38:53 and doing all kinds of stuff. 38:54 But today, nothing, quiet. 39:06 I know they're alive 39:07 because I can hear them, 39:09 I can hear them inside that lodge here. 39:10 Listen to this. 39:24 I guess these guys need a day off too. 39:27 But why did they pick Saturday. 39:29 Do they even know it's Saturday 39:32 or maybe it's just a coincidence. 39:35 The only way to find out just to keep on observing 39:38 through another week. 39:49 It's Sunday, and the beaver are back, out and busy. 40:06 They've obviously come back out of the lodge 40:10 they look healthy 40:13 so I'll just keep watching 40:15 and see what's on their schedule 40:17 for this week. 40:21 Another week of observation 40:23 and the beavers were out every day busy as usual, 40:28 Sunday through Friday 40:29 at about the same time every day, 40:33 and then came Saturday. 40:40 And just like the first week all was quiet again. 40:49 This continued on week after week, 40:51 month after month summer and winter 40:53 with the same results. 41:22 My dad has been watching these beavers 41:23 for about 16 years. 41:27 He's been getting to be, 41:28 kind of, an expert on beaver behavior 41:30 at least with this family of beavers. 41:40 They seem like normal animals 41:43 except we've never once seen them out on Saturdays. 41:55 Notice something interesting about beavers, 41:59 you see how close their front arms and shoulders 42:01 are to their head. 42:04 It almost looks like their arms 42:05 come out the side of their neck. 42:08 Now this makes them really good 42:10 at handling things close to their mouths. 42:13 But not so good at running. 42:17 Also, notice how fast they submerge 42:19 when they slap their tails. 42:22 I used to think beavers slap their tails 42:24 to warn others of danger 42:27 but after studying them for a long time, 42:29 I don't think that's the case. 42:31 It looks to me like 42:33 they're trying to get underwater quickly. 42:36 I don't think they're warning others 42:38 because sometimes they slap their tails 42:40 when no others are around or if others are there. 42:44 The others don't respond by running off 42:46 when they hear the slap. 42:49 Beavers can't see very good at all. 42:52 In fact, I've been able to film them 42:54 within just a few feet without them seeing me. 42:59 They can smell and hear very well 43:01 but they have very poor eyesight. 43:03 So to me it looks like they slap their tails 43:07 because they're not sure if danger is present 43:09 and they want to get under the water quickly 43:11 just in case. 43:13 Because when they don't slap their tails 43:15 submerging takes a bit longer. 43:21 Sometimes only come up here on Saturdays, 43:23 we're a little worried, when do we see the beavers out. 43:27 After all this time, 43:28 that would really ruin our study. 43:30 But no, every Saturday 43:32 when we come everything is quiet here 43:35 at the Beaver dam. 43:43 Getting to be to beaver dams has been a challenge. 43:47 Over the years we've been very thankful 43:49 for the old Chevy Tahoe, it's been pretty capable. 43:54 It's gotten us in and out of some pretty rough places. 44:00 Yeah, you know, we've logged 44:02 thousands of miles on this truck 44:04 and on some of the roughest terrain. 44:17 Oh, boy. 44:30 Besides down the trees are the trail, 44:37 flat tires were par for the course. 44:42 Yup, another flat. 44:46 There we are minding our own business, flat. 44:50 Out in the middle of nowhere. 44:53 I got muscles. 44:54 One of the biggest flats, I think, we've ever gotten. 45:01 Tire is eager come off... 45:02 It's already loose. 45:04 Like a loose tooth. 45:08 Ready. 45:10 Wow. 45:12 Let's try different one. 45:13 I don't think I'd like this one. 45:15 This is of the same size tire? 45:32 We finally had a breakdown 45:34 and buy some really tough tires. 45:36 Keys. 45:41 All right, I will let John know you're here. 45:43 Okay. Thank you. 45:45 We're getting the old flat tire problem 45:47 fixed right now. 45:51 All right, no more flats for us. 45:56 Great. All right... 45:58 Peter, thank you. 46:03 If Saturday is God's Sabbath day 46:07 then why do Christians all over the world 46:11 go to church on Sunday. 46:14 Well, that's really a good question 46:15 because there's nothing to validate 46:18 the keeping of Sunday in the Bible. 46:20 It's merely tradition. 46:23 Surely tradition. 46:24 There's only eight verses on the first day of the week 46:28 in the Bible and none of them talk about 46:31 transferring the worship of God, 46:34 the day that God sanctified from the seventh day 46:38 to Sunday. 46:39 And actually the tradition dates all the way back 46:42 to a few centuries after Christ 46:45 when Constantine legalized Christianity. 46:48 And he acted the very first Sunday observance law. 46:51 You can read about it in a lot of encyclopedias. 46:54 Collier's encyclopedia says that 46:57 on the venerable day of Sun, let the magistrates 47:00 and the people residing in cities rest 47:03 and let all the workshops be closed. 47:06 Then in 364 AD in the council of Laodicea 47:11 they passed a law requiring 47:13 that Christians must not Judaize 47:15 by resting on a Saturday. 47:18 The religious leaders led by Bishop Eusebius stated, 47:22 all things whatsoever 47:24 that it was duty to do on the Sabbath 47:26 these we have transferred to the Lord's Day, 47:30 which was the name they gave to Sunday. 47:33 70 AD Roman armies conquered Jerusalem 47:36 and burned the Temple to the ground. 47:39 At that time it became very unpopular 47:41 throughout the Roman Empire to be like the Jews in any way 47:46 and Christian churches had recently been established 47:49 throughout the empire especially in the city of Rome. 47:51 And so because of this war against the Jews 47:54 it became very unpopular to be like the Jews in any way 47:59 and the Bible Sabbath looked Jewish 48:01 because the Jews kept it as well. 48:04 And so a tremendous pressure 48:06 was exerted upon the early Christian churches 48:08 especially in Rome to move away from the Bible Sabbath. 48:13 But at the same time, 48:15 Sunday was a day that was recognized 48:18 throughout the Roman Empire as the day of the Sun. 48:21 The Romans worship the Sun on Sunday. 48:25 And so as the Christians were feeling pressure 48:28 to get away from anything that looked Jewish 48:31 they started thinking about this and they said, 48:34 "Hey, you know what, Jesus rose on Sunday anyway." 48:38 And so it became a very convenient rash rationalization 48:43 to move away from the what was 48:45 what looked like a Jewish Sabbath 48:47 and to move toward Sunday. 48:48 If you've heard the expression when in Rome do as the Romans. 48:52 That really originated over this issue 48:55 and so the shift took place. 48:57 Gradually especially in Rome and in Egypt in Alexandria 49:01 and as time went on the Roman Catholic Church 49:03 really became a dominant advocate 49:06 for Sunday observance 49:08 as a replacement to the Bible Sabbath. 49:11 Nevertheless the Bible itself does not change. 49:15 And the fourth commandment still says 49:17 that the seventh day is the Sabbath not of the Jews 49:21 but of the Lord. 49:27 Well, as you can see, 49:28 winter has settled in here at the beaver pond 49:31 but the beavers are still active 49:32 and still coming out Sunday through Friday. 49:35 Not quite as much but they're still coming out. 49:39 I just finished observing several more weeks here 49:42 and still no Saturday activity. 49:45 Now it's not that they just stop working on Saturday. 49:49 I haven't seen them come out of their lodge 49:51 on Saturday. 49:53 It's as if they go in there Friday night at sundown 49:56 and then hibernate for 24 hours. 49:59 I've been observing this now 50:00 for over 10 years and here's what I think... 50:04 I think something is causing the beavers to rest 50:07 on Saturday something inherent or something unseen. 50:12 My hunch is this the designer who created the beavers 50:16 must have programmed a rest period in their brains 50:20 and that designer has to be the God of the Bible 50:22 because they're resting occurs only and routinely on Saturdays 50:26 which is the biblical day of rest, 50:28 the same day that God rested 50:30 when he created this world and so I'm impressed by this. 50:35 Now, I don't know if all beavers rest like this 50:39 but the next logical step would be 50:41 to organize another study 50:43 involving other families of beavers and find out. 50:47 If you have any questions 50:49 or you would like more information 50:51 or maybe if you'd like some free study guides 50:53 about the Sabbath day, 50:55 you can contact me at my website 50:57 at www.desiremedia.org. 51:02 And thank you for watching the Seventh-day Beavers. 51:16 Just finished filming, Seventh-day Beaver film 51:19 just about wrapped up here and we've got a long walk. 51:22 We couldn't even bring the truck in here today 51:24 because it's so deep. 51:26 In fact, we got stuck up there once, we're good now. 51:36 You know, Larren that is 51:37 first of all it's a fun piece to watch 51:39 and that's sixteen years of your life, 51:41 16 years of dedicated work 51:42 and Shelley, I agree that the words you said 51:44 were very, very important 51:46 and it works it's something you couldn't give this 51:48 to a non Adventist, a non-Christian, 51:52 a person who is just into science, 51:54 who's into nature, 51:55 who's into animals who just like. 51:57 Children can watch this. 51:58 It's really a video for all ages. 52:00 Did you intend to do it that way? 52:01 Oh, yeah, yeah. 52:02 In fact, you'll see on the video 52:04 that I purposely use the word Saturday 52:06 as I don't use the word Sabbath it's Saturday. 52:09 So absolutely I want this to be a tool, 52:12 you know, I'm an evangelist, I want to win souls. 52:14 So yeah I intended to do that. 52:17 So we use the word Saturday, 52:18 we try not to look too, 52:20 you know it gets a little theological 52:22 at the end with our Bible experts who come in 52:24 but we call it Saturday. 52:25 But I don't think you come across 52:27 to heavy or that children can't understand 52:29 what you're trying to say, 52:30 it's kind of for all ages don't you agree? 52:32 You know, I had really no idea what he was going to ask me 52:34 when he sat down. 52:36 I remember, I was doing a... 52:37 Larren came in and sat up. 52:39 I was doing as seminar at ASI in 2015 52:43 and he came in and sat up and said, 52:45 "Here we are 52:46 but you need to know 52:48 how you can get this wonderful video, 52:50 and I think we've got an address role 52:52 that is ready for you. 52:59 If you would like to contact Desire Media, 53:02 you can do so at... 53:03 Post office box 185, New Pine Creek, Oregon. 53:07 97635. 53:09 That's Post office box 185, New Pine Creek, Oregon. 53:13 97635. 53:15 Or you can visit them online at LarrenCole.com. 53:20 That's LarrenCole.com. 53:26 Contact them today, they'd love to hear from you. |
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