Participants: Greg & Jill Morikone (Host), Tim Rumsey
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016086A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello, friends, and welcome to another 3ABN today program. 01:10 It's a blessing to join with you each and every day, 01:12 thank you for tuning into 3ABN. 01:14 That's right. 01:15 We always appreciate your prayers 01:17 and support of the ministry of 3ABN. 01:19 Many of you have stood with us 01:21 from the very beginning of 3ABN, 01:23 and thank you so much because you know what? 01:25 We're a team and we're on a winning team 01:28 because we're on Christ side, aren't we? 01:29 And it's all about winning souls for Jesus Christ, 01:32 so thank you again for your support 01:34 through all the years and it's neat to hear 01:36 how God is working in many people's lives. 01:38 And today we have a wonderful interview, 01:40 don't we? 01:41 We do, I like the today program 01:42 because we can feature and show testimonies of people 01:46 whose lives have been changed, 01:48 people who have stepped out into ministry 01:51 and our impact in other people's lives. 01:53 And we have such a guest today. 01:55 Our special guest today is Tim Rumsey. 01:58 He is a speaker director for Pathway 02:00 to Paradise Ministries. 02:02 And, Tim, we're just so glad to have you here today. 02:05 Thank you. Good to be here. 02:07 We're looking forward to hearing your story 02:09 and what Pathway to Paradise Ministries 02:11 is all about and un-packaging 02:13 what he does and it's an exciting testimony. 02:16 It really is because it's neat 02:17 because in this interview today, 02:19 you're going to hear what God is doing in his life 02:22 and in his ministry but also it's a call to you, 02:25 because all of us are called we have a purpose 02:27 and that is to spread God's love to others 02:30 and we don't maybe necessary have 02:31 to have a ministry with a so called 02:33 maybe name like Pathway 02:35 to, Pathway, I make sure I get this right... 02:37 Pathway to Paradise. 02:38 Paradise, but you can be in your own living room, 02:40 in your church and God has a plan for you too, 02:43 so we want you to remember that as we go through this 02:44 wonderful story and what God is doing today 02:46 in this ministry. 02:48 Amen. 02:49 And that's why we want to hear the testimony of Tim Rumsey 02:52 and his family to hear 02:53 how God is working in their lives, 02:56 in this ministry having them step out into ministry, 02:59 how they got involved in ministry, 03:01 and how God wants each one of us 03:03 to be involved in ministry as well. 03:05 Before we go to his testimony 03:06 and as he shares about the ministry, 03:09 we want to go to a scripture, 03:10 I asked Tim before the program began, 03:12 if they have a certain scripture 03:14 that they especially use or especially like 03:17 with this ministry. 03:18 And the scripture is Psalms 119:105, 03:23 I'm sure you can quote it with me, 03:25 "Your word is a lamp to my feet, 03:29 and a light to my path." 03:31 Before we go to his testimony, we want to have some music, 03:35 we're going to be hearing from Sandra Entermann. 03:38 She is a wonderful friend of this ministry 03:40 and we always love it when she comes 03:42 and when she can minister music to us, 03:45 and she will be doing the song "O Calvary's Lamb." 04:05 This faltering tongue 04:09 Would dare to speak 04:14 Of Thee my Lord 04:18 From one so weak 04:22 I must not keep 04:26 From thee my praise 04:31 For thy glory I will lift my voice 04:36 And sing 04:38 O Calvary's Lamb 04:42 O righteous one 04:46 For sinners died 04:50 Whose sins were none 04:54 All that I have 04:58 All that I am 05:03 I owe to Thee 05:07 O Calvary's Lamb 05:16 And when mine eyes 05:20 At last shall see 05:24 Thy holy face 05:27 I'll bow to thee 05:31 Before Thy throne 05:35 With those redeemed 05:40 Unto Thee O Lord 05:42 I'll lift my voice and sing 05:47 O Calvary's Lamb 05:51 O righteous One 05:54 For sinners died 05:58 Whose sins were none 06:02 All that I have 06:06 All that I am 06:10 I owe to Thee 06:15 O Calvary's Lamb 06:33 O Calvary's Lamb 06:37 O righteous One 06:41 For sinners died 06:45 Whose sins were none 06:49 All that I have 06:53 All that I am 07:01 I owe to Thee 07:08 O Calvary's Lamb 07:35 Amen, thank you so very much Sandra, what a powerful song. 07:39 Amen. 07:40 O Calvary's Lamb, I tell you 07:42 we praise the Lord for Jesus Christ 07:43 and that gift that he gave to us, 07:45 the gift of salvation so many years ago 07:46 and that's why we want to continue 07:48 to spend our lives doing, isn't it? 07:50 Just to spread God's love 07:51 and that gift of salvation to others. 07:53 Amen, that's right. 07:54 If you're just joining us, 07:55 we have a special guest Tim Rumsey with us 07:58 with Pathway to Paradise. 07:59 I got that Pathway to Paradise Ministries. 08:02 And, Tim, we're so glad to have you here. 08:04 Before we talk about the ministry 08:06 and how God called you into that, 08:08 take us back to who you are 08:11 and may be give a little bit of growing up and... 08:13 Sure. 08:14 And share little about your family 08:15 because I know that your family is not on the set, 08:17 they're here close by but tell us 08:19 a little about your family as well. 08:21 Certainly. 08:22 Well, let's start with the picture of my family 08:23 because this isn't just my ministry, 08:26 it's something that we're doing together 08:28 as a family. 08:29 Oh, they're precious. 08:32 Tell us about your wife's name and your children? 08:34 Yeah, my wife Stacy, and our three children. 08:38 This picture is actually almost a year old 08:39 so we're going to need to get a new one. 08:42 But right behind me is our oldest son, 08:45 his name is James. 08:46 Okay. He's four and half right now. 08:49 And then his brother is peeking out 08:52 behind Stacy there, his name is Paul, 08:55 he'll be there in just a couple weeks. 08:57 And then our little baby girl Jenna 08:59 is about a year and a half old right now. 09:01 Wow. What great smiles. 09:04 I know we met you at ASI this past summer at ASI 09:09 and we're just blessed by the ministry 09:11 and by what God has called you to do 09:12 but did you grow up in a Christian home, 09:14 were you always Christian? 09:15 Yes, grown up as a Christian, as an Adventist. 09:20 Had a wonderful home, wonderful parents 09:22 and what a blessing that has been. 09:25 Very thankful for that as well. 09:28 Just the low background on me, I'm a musician by training. 09:32 Okay. 09:33 I taught music in a couple of our academies, 09:35 our boarding academies for about a decade. 09:38 What type of music? 09:40 Band was my area, I've taught choir and handbells 09:43 and piano lessons as well, you kind of do everything. 09:46 Oh, yeah. When you are teaching. 09:48 Yeah. 09:50 And composition is 09:52 where I've received lot of my training. 09:55 So your degree is in music then? 09:57 Degree is in music. 09:58 Oh, I did not know that, okay. 10:00 So this shift into, to ministry is something new for us 10:05 and something that we've definitely have seen 10:06 the Lord guiding us into, 10:09 otherwise I'm sure I'd still be teaching music 10:12 some place so. 10:13 We're just humbled and thankful to see 10:16 how the Lord works with everybody. 10:19 And he has a purpose and a plan for everybody's life. 10:22 And it doesn't matter what our background is 10:24 or where we've been or what we have 10:26 or haven't done, 10:27 he still has that calling and that purpose for us. 10:31 So tell me in the call to step out into ministry here, 10:36 you were teaching, you're doing music, 10:38 you're satisfied, fulfilled, 10:39 did you feel like an emptiness like, wow, 10:42 I should be doing something different 10:44 or how did that come about? 10:46 It was kind of a surprise to me. 10:48 It actually happened a few months 10:49 after we were married. 10:51 And so this is one reason 10:52 that we see this really as God's calling 10:54 for our family. 10:55 Okay. 10:57 All of us, both of us at a time before we had children 11:00 to make this step. 11:02 An evangelist came through our local church for a weekend 11:05 and at the end of his meetings, 11:07 he made several appeals and calls 11:09 but one of those was, 11:10 if you feel the Lord calling you 11:12 to full-time gospel ministry, then come forward. 11:15 And we were sitting on the back row of the church, 11:18 and all of a sudden my wife looked over 11:21 and I wasn't there anymore 11:22 because I was walking up to the front. 11:24 And as I was talking with her later that afternoon, she said, 11:28 when I saw you go up, I knew something was happening 11:31 because, you know, you're not the kind of person 11:33 that usually just goes up for these kind of things. 11:36 And definitely felt the Lord and Holy Sprit urging me, 11:41 you need to make this commitment. 11:44 You know, that's amazing because when you think about, 11:46 you know, your involvement with young people, correct? 11:47 You're teaching band in an academy, 11:49 you've a lot of impact, 11:51 positive impact, you know, for young people 11:52 so to make this decision sounds like just like that, 11:55 the minister evangelist gave a call and you responded. 12:00 Well, we began praying earnestly 12:02 that Lord would show us, you know, what does this mean. 12:04 At this point we feel kind of like Abraham. 12:06 Yeah. 12:07 We don't know where we were going. 12:08 So this is after you went forward? 12:10 After I went forward. 12:11 You started praying earnestly God what do you want me to do. 12:13 Yeah. Wow. 12:14 And we prayed for about eight months, 12:18 that the Lord would show us what he wants us to do 12:21 and he actually sent me back into teaching again and... 12:25 Music or something different? Music once again, yes. 12:27 Okay. 12:29 And it was a wonderful experience 12:30 and I actually had the opportunity 12:33 at that new position to teach some Bible as well. 12:36 Now what school was this at? 12:37 That was at Bass Memorial Academy. 12:39 Okay. Mississippi. 12:41 Yeah, that's right. 12:42 You know, I want to just touch on this real briefly because, 12:45 you know, I think this could be experience for many people. 12:49 You felt that God has called you to do something, 12:51 so you step out what you did, you know, you felt man, God, 12:54 I need to do something. 12:55 You felt the call so you went forward, 12:57 and then you prayed 12:58 and it seemed as though nothing happened, 13:01 could we say that? 13:03 And then you went back into what you were doing. 13:06 And so that could really I mean, 13:07 to be honest with you, that happens 13:09 I'm going to say to many people 13:10 'cause it's happened to me too. 13:11 And it could be almost a confusing time 13:13 in somebody's life like okay 13:15 was that really God then that I felt talking to me. 13:18 How did you deal with all of that? 13:20 Was that confusing for you? 13:21 Well, like I said, we've prayed for eight months 13:23 and we finally set up a deadline 13:25 because we needed to let our current employers 13:28 know what we're going to do. 13:30 Of course. 13:31 After eight months of praying, the Lord answered those prayers 13:34 one night before the deadline we got the phone call. 13:38 Oh, wow. 13:39 From Bass Memorial Academy. Okay. 13:41 So at that point it's not something 13:42 you can really ignore or brush aside, 13:44 you have to say this is obviously the Lord, 13:46 the Lord leading here. 13:48 And so we definitely knew that 13:50 this is what he wanted us to do. 13:52 So from your current school you're employed at, 13:54 then you moved to Bass Memorial? 13:56 That's right. Okay. 13:57 And you felt like this is part of the call like 14:00 God has this call and I don't know exactly 14:02 how you're going to fold it, 14:04 but this is what God's how he is leading? 14:05 That's right. 14:07 We were there for three years, had wonderful experience, 14:11 met lots of really great people. 14:13 And eventually moved on from that 14:17 and moved to Colorado... 14:20 And went to work for my father-in-law. 14:22 And so kind of joined the family business 14:23 for a while. 14:24 What does he do? 14:26 He develops and manages assisted living facility. 14:28 Okay. 14:30 And so that was a great experience as well, 14:32 very different from teaching. 14:34 Oh, yes. 14:35 But that gave me the opportunity 14:37 through connection with some of the local churches 14:38 out there in Colorado 14:40 to begin doing some speaking in 14:43 one of the churches kind of stepped out 14:44 and gave me the opportunity to do 14:46 an evangelistic series, and... 14:50 So did you know when you went forward, 14:51 when that evangelist made the call, did you know 14:53 okay, God, this is what the ministry is 14:55 going to look like? 14:56 Or you really had no idea, 14:57 you just knew there was a call in my life 14:59 but I don't know exactly 15:00 what it's supposed to look like? 15:02 We didn't have a clue what it really meant. 15:03 We were excited. 15:05 We knew this definitely was something 15:07 the Lord was leading 15:08 but at least for us in our experience, 15:11 we've never seen the big picture. 15:13 It seems like God works that way. 15:15 He shows you just what you need 15:17 for the next step. 15:18 Amen. But that builds faith. 15:20 Yeah, it reminds me of Abraham, I was just thinking of Abraham, 15:22 he was called to go into a land, a country, 15:24 really didn't even know what he's going to be doing there, 15:26 where he was going actually, but he knew God had called. 15:30 Tell us a little bit about what Pathway to Paradise is 15:32 what your ministry is 'cause we're starting now 15:34 to talk about the evangelistic part of it, 15:36 what is Pathway to Paradise? 15:39 That's the name of that first series 15:42 that I wrote evangelistic series, 15:43 it was named Pathway to Paradise. 15:45 That you did in Colorado? 15:47 And Jesus of course is the pathway and the way, 15:50 the truth, and the life. 15:52 Amen. 15:53 And so when we were looking for a name for the ministry itself, 15:56 we couldn't think of anything better than that. 15:59 Oh, that's a great name. 16:00 And that's what we try to do no matter what we're doing, 16:03 and we're going to be talking about some different programs 16:06 as we move forward here, 16:08 but the focus and purpose of all those is 16:10 to direct people to Jesus. 16:13 Show them what it means to walk with him today. 16:16 Yeah, that's great. 16:17 So you were working for your father-in-law 16:19 doing the family business 16:20 and then doing evangelism on the side 16:22 or how did that work? 16:24 He gave me quite a bit of free time 16:28 to do evangelism and try to build this ministry 16:32 as I was working for him, which was very grateful. 16:34 It's a blessing. Oh, yeah. 16:36 He has a heart for the church and the Lord's work as well. 16:40 About a year ago we were doing an evangelistic series 16:43 up in Montana. 16:45 And as we were doing that series 16:48 which lasted for about a month. 16:50 My wife and I both just became very convicted 16:52 that when the Lord had called us 16:54 in the full-time ministry that's actually what he meant. 16:56 Oh, wow. 16:58 Full-time don't be doing this 16:59 and try to work in a family business, 17:02 don't be doing this and try to do anything else, 17:05 this is what I want you doing. 17:07 So we started really praying about that... 17:09 Oh, that's serious. Wrestling with that. 17:10 Yes. 17:12 And we didn't say anything to her parents, my boss, 17:17 and when we got back from that series 17:19 we live on the same property together, 17:21 so when we got back home the very first thing 17:23 that my father-in-law said, was welcome back, 17:27 how do we get you doing this ministry full-time? 17:31 Into what? That's Jesus. 17:33 Wow, conformation. Absolutely. 17:35 And so my mouth kind of dropped down 17:37 and I picked it back up. 17:39 Put my tongue back and I said, wow, okay. 17:41 And then we shared with him what we've been praying about 17:43 for the last three or four weeks. 17:46 And then what happened just that weekend, right? 17:48 Before you came home? 17:50 Yeah, at the beginning 17:51 and at the beginning of that series 17:53 we had send off our application for a 501c3 status. 17:58 Okay. 17:59 And we've been told to wait for that 18:01 12 to 18 months 18:03 and within four weeks it came back approved. 18:06 So that was just another conformation of that. 18:08 Another conformation. 18:09 And the Lord just view it was time to step forward. 18:11 Yeah, that's a scary thing to step out 18:14 and to think I'm totally dependent on the Lord 18:17 and the donations of other people 18:18 to support this ministry. 18:20 It is but at the same time it's the most comfortable, 18:24 safest place you can be as well. 18:26 Amen. 18:27 If you know that this is where the Lord is leading. 18:30 It grows your faith for sure. Yeah. 18:32 Yeah, that's for sure 'cause I'm thinking, 18:34 you know, you're man of the house, 18:35 you know, I'm for the two of us, 18:37 and that's a lot of responsibility 18:38 because you also have, 18:40 I got to take care of my family but like you said, 18:42 couldn't say it better, 18:43 it's most comfortable place to be in the will of God. 18:46 That's right. Amen. 18:48 So how has that journey been? 18:50 Oh, we've been doing this full-time now... 18:52 For about a year? Almost a year. 18:55 And we stayed busy 18:57 so praise the Lord for that... 18:58 Amen. 19:00 So what does your ministry look like? 19:02 What does it entail, what projects, 19:03 I know you mentioned evangelism, 19:05 but there is also another initiative called Shine 19:07 you're involved in, right? 19:09 That's right. 19:10 This is something we're really excited about 19:11 as my wife and I were thinking about and talking about, 19:16 what is this ministry going to look like, 19:18 and of course praying and studying as well. 19:22 My wife has such a passion for children, 19:26 for her children, for other people's children, 19:27 for families. 19:29 Amen. 19:30 And we really started praying, Lord, show us 19:32 how our children can not just tag along behind us 19:36 as we go different places and do different things 19:38 in this ministry 19:40 but how can our children 19:41 actually be part of the ministry. 19:44 And so that is was kind of what fueled the idea for Shine. 19:50 That's important, I actually like that 19:51 because a lot of times children are considered to be taught of 19:53 as just tag along or leave them at home with someone else 19:56 but you're actually wanting to incorporate them 19:58 as part of your ministry, 20:00 but then make that a ministry in itself. 20:02 Absolutely and... It's great. 20:04 Also help other families 20:07 understand how this can be come a part of their lives, 20:09 whether they're in full-time "ministry" 20:11 or not, how do we get the entire family involved. 20:15 Amen. 20:16 Now we have a video of that, so let's go to that. 20:19 Is now a good time to go to? 20:20 Okay, let's go to that video here of Shine at this time. 20:37 Jesus loves me this I know 20:40 I want to tell the word so. 20:50 This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine 20:55 This little light of mine, 20:58 I'm gonna let it shine 21:01 This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine 21:05 Let it shine, let it shine, 21:08 let it shine 21:11 All around our neighborhood, I'm gonna let it shine 21:16 All around our neighborhood, 21:19 I'm gonna let it shine 21:22 All around our neighborhood, 21:24 I'm gonna let it shine Let it shine, let it shine 21:29 Let it shine 21:35 God has always had a remnant generation. 21:40 A generation of children 21:41 who would not be bought or sold. 21:43 Children who in their inmost souls 21:46 were true and honest. 21:48 Children who did not fear to call sin by its right name. 21:53 Children whose conscience was as true to duty 21:55 as the needle to the pole. 21:58 Children who stood for the right, 22:00 though the heavens may fall. 22:03 Today in the time of the end, 22:06 God will again have a remnant generation 22:09 that shines as the brightness of the firmament, 22:12 and turns many to righteousness. 22:25 Pathway to Paradise Ministries presents Shine. 22:29 A family camp meeting, spiritual retreat 22:32 and youth presented public evangelistic series, 22:36 combined in one life changing meet. 22:39 Activities include parenting seminars, 22:42 workshops on developing creative family worships, 22:46 training to teach children how to lead Bible studies, 22:49 and a public evangelistic series 22:52 presented entirely by children. 22:56 To learn more about Shine and to register your family, 22:59 visit www.shinekids.net. 23:04 That's www.shinekids.net. 23:08 Shine! 23:13 Incredible. Amen. 23:14 Wow, what an amazing ministry just Shine is. 23:18 So you got to tell us a little bit more about this 23:19 because I can see people at home. 23:21 I mean if we had children too, I know we would want to be 23:23 involved in this. 23:24 But you're saying, wow, I want to get involved, 23:26 tell me more about that, I know you had a website, 23:28 you may want to repeat that. 23:30 We're going to give an address roll here 23:31 at the very end of this program, 23:32 so get your pencil and pen out and a piece of paper, 23:35 but tell us a little bit more about Shine 23:37 'cause I know this is a very exciting aspect 23:39 of Pathway to Paradise. 23:40 Certainly. 23:42 This is going to kind of be a cross 23:44 between a family camp or summer family camp. 23:46 Okay. And a family camp meeting. 23:49 And so I'm saying it will be 23:52 'cause we've never done it before. 23:54 The first time will be next summer, 23:55 summer of 2017 will be at Fletcher Academy, 23:59 in Fletcher in North Carolina. 24:00 You already have it booked then? 24:02 We do. Okay. 24:03 And we're going to be partnering with the academy 24:05 and also the Henderson Will Seventh-day Adventist. 24:08 I see that June 26 to July 1st. 24:10 That's right. Okay. 24:11 Those are the dates and the website 24:13 again shinekids.net. 24:14 There is a lot more information 24:16 than we'll have time to go over here. 24:18 Sure, so basically if they want to sign up, 24:19 I'm sure you have to sign up right? 24:21 It's not just show up, you need to register. 24:24 That's correct. 24:25 Okay, so in order to do that, go to website which is... 24:27 Shinekids.net. Shinekids.net. 24:30 Okay. That's right. 24:32 I want to read a short statement, 24:34 this is from Testimonies to the Church, 24:36 volume 6, page 202, 24:38 "In the last days children's voices 24:40 will be raised to give the last message 24:42 of warning to a perishing world. 24:44 When heavenly intelligences see that men are 24:47 no longer permitted to present the truth, 24:49 the Spirit of God will come upon the children, 24:52 and they will do a work in the proclamation of the truth 24:55 which the older workers cannot do, 24:57 because their way will be hedged up.' 25:01 ' It's interesting when we look at the history of 25:03 the reformation in Scandinavia, 25:05 if you read the book The Great Controversy, 25:08 God did this at that time as well, 25:10 he moved upon the children 25:12 and he gave the message through them. 25:16 And we understand and we believe that 25:18 the same thing is going to be happening again in the future. 25:20 Yeah. 25:22 And so Shine is really our humble attempt to inspire 25:28 and help equip families, so that they can raise 25:31 their children in such a way 25:32 that the Lord can use their kids 25:34 in part of this final message. 25:36 Oh, that's exciting. Praise God. 25:39 So the focus of the week is spiritual. 25:43 There is some recreation in different family activities, 25:46 but it's not like a summer camp in a sense, you know, 25:48 there is not horseback riding and water skiing, 25:50 those are great activities 25:52 but the focus here is on the spiritual, 25:56 and want to really give families opportunity 25:59 to practice evangelizing with all members of the family 26:05 in different ways. 26:07 So during the week there is parenting seminars, 26:09 there is practice for the children 26:12 and their role which 26:13 I'll explain more in just a minute. 26:14 Okay. 26:16 There is opportunities for door-to-door work, 26:18 the whole family can go out together. 26:20 Oh, I like that. 26:22 So the families are going to experience 26:23 this week together as a family. 26:25 Okay. 26:27 It's really evangelism, it's outreach, it's training, 26:30 that's exciting. 26:32 So when they go out door-to-door they would be 26:35 like selling books or we talking like 26:37 taking Bible study interest or praying with people, 26:40 or what does that look like? 26:41 Well, we're going to work with the local church. 26:43 And we're going to, you know, 26:45 ask how can we help you the most, 26:46 what do you see your needs are in the community 26:49 and we'll certainly be passing out literature, 26:51 inviting people to the public meetings 26:53 at the end of the week. 26:55 Okay. 26:56 And maybe I'll talk about that, add a little bit 26:59 'cause that's really kind of 27:01 the unique highlight of the series or the program. 27:06 Friday night, and then Sabbath morning, 27:08 and then Sabbath afternoon, so three programs. 27:12 The public would be invited in to the local church there, 27:15 and the kids are going to present 27:18 the entire presentation. 27:20 Wow. 27:22 So they'll do the preaching, they'll do the special music, 27:25 they'll do the greeting, and a scripture and prayer. 27:27 Amen. 27:29 We're hoping that they can help run some of the audio 27:32 and video as well, 27:33 just every aspect of that outreach 27:36 will be presented by the children. 27:39 As a way to help them we realize, 27:40 hey, this is a way that I can get involved 27:44 and they can do some of these things. 27:47 I think a lot of kids have a passion to share 27:50 and they need the opportunity to do that. 27:52 Yeah, sometimes as adult, 27:54 I think we can sort of stymie that, 27:56 well, you're not quite grown up enough, 27:57 but here they're given the opportunity to. 27:59 I have a question. 28:00 So the camp is about one week in length, 28:03 and so the closing weekend by Friday night you said 28:06 and then Sabbath 28:07 that young people are doing the services. 28:11 So are these young people in the months prior 28:13 getting ready for this whole series 28:15 or is this just one week of like okay, 28:17 here this what you're going to speak on 28:19 and they pretty much had to put this together 28:21 in one week's time. 28:22 Good question. 28:24 Registration actually closes May 15th 28:27 over a month before this starts and there is a reason for that, 28:30 that's because the kids need time to prepare. 28:33 Now when a family registers for this 28:37 and they say hey, we want to be part of this. 28:40 We don't... 28:42 Well, we're going to work with the family 28:44 and we're going to work with the children 28:46 to find the best role for them and what fits them best. 28:50 Trying to find their strengths and weaknesses maybe here... 28:53 And there are a lot of children 28:55 I know that don't want to get up front 28:57 and preach and that's great 28:58 because we need lots of other roles. 29:00 We need people to do prayer teams. 29:04 You know, if a child is good at art work, 29:07 we need some art for the PowerPoints 29:10 and different parts that we need art for 29:12 so we're going to do everything 29:14 we can to plug that kid into the best role 29:18 that fits them the best. 29:19 That's good because God calls all of us to ministry 29:21 but we all don't have the same gifts. 29:24 And when you mention the kids might be doing audio visual 29:27 or they might be greeting or that's wonderful 29:30 because some would be friendly and want to greet, 29:32 some want to get up and speak, 29:34 you know, have that burden and passion, 29:37 but God can use each one in that ministry. 29:39 That's powerful. 29:40 Now for those children 29:42 that are going to be doing the speaking, 29:43 it will be scripted for them so we'll give them a script. 29:47 So they don't have to create something. 29:48 Exactly. 29:50 We'll give them the PowerPoints to practice with. 29:52 And then those three or four days of the week itself 29:57 we're just putting the pieces together. 30:00 I'll go back to my music teaching experience. 30:03 You know, there is a reason music teachers 30:05 tell their students 30:06 you have to practice this before the concert. 30:08 That's right. 30:09 Those final rehearsals are just to fit everything into place, 30:12 it's not to learn your music so. 30:14 We're not learning the material during Shine itself, 30:17 we're just putting it all together. 30:20 Yeah, it sounds like an amazing week 30:21 so do you have a lot of slots or spaces for families to come, 30:24 is this like couple of hundred 30:26 or you're looking more of a small? 30:28 Yeah, what are you looking for? 30:29 Yeah, Fletcher Academy 30:31 has room to comfortably house 30:34 somewhere between 20 to 25 families. 30:36 Okay. 30:37 It's not that big 30:39 but it's big enough to have a good group there. 30:41 Amen. 30:42 So I want to encourage you then 30:44 because this is probably going to fill up really quick 30:46 so if you're interested, 30:48 I will start researching this 30:49 and I guess this probably maybe even contacting there, 30:51 they can email or phone number 30:52 that they can reach you guys at 30:54 and start finding out more about this 30:56 because this sounds really exciting 30:58 and it's not just... 30:59 It sounds like it's going to be fun 31:00 but it's also based on ministry 31:02 of reaching souls for Jesus Christ. 31:04 And, wow, what a way to inspire young people. 31:06 I know that mission trips 31:08 are very inspiring to young people, 31:09 so this is sort of like that 31:11 but it's right here in the States 31:12 and it's local evangelism too which is very exciting. 31:15 Praise the Lord for this project Shine 31:17 which is... 31:19 I'm going to say just 31:20 one aspect of Pathway to Paradise. 31:22 I know there's another part of Pathway to Paradise too 31:25 that we want to cover. 31:27 Oh, the thing that we've been doing 31:30 since we started is public evangelistic series 31:33 working with churches 31:36 and then weekend presentations as well. 31:40 And we have several different seminars 31:44 or weekend meetings that we can do. 31:47 One that I wanted to talk little bit about 31:49 is "Living in the Final Week". 31:52 There is a deep 31:54 and profound experience 31:58 that God wants with his people, 32:00 and actually it's not just that he wants it, 32:01 he actually promises that he will have it. 32:05 And that is best explained by a passage in Ephesians. 32:10 Let's go there. 32:12 Ephesians 5. 32:16 The Bible gives lots of analogies 32:19 for the relationship that God and Jesus want with the church, 32:23 and this is one of those. 32:25 It's the marriage relationship. Yes. 32:27 I'm just going to pick a few verses here 32:29 from Ephesians 5, 32:32 beginning with verse 23. 32:34 It kind of half way through the verse, 32:36 "Christ is head of the church, 32:38 and he is the Savior of the body." 32:41 And so this beautiful picture of Christ is the head, 32:44 the church is the body. 32:46 I often use the illustration 32:49 when I got married to my wife, 32:52 I did something that was really nice I thought, 32:54 I invited her to go on my honeymoon with me. 32:57 Amen, that's a good thing. That's right. 32:59 It worked out great. 33:01 You see know I did the same thing. 33:02 Oh, good, I'm glad you did. 33:04 And there is a reason we do that 33:06 and that's because we want to be with our partner. 33:08 Yeah, that's right. We want to be with our spouse. 33:10 We want to be with our husband or wife. 33:13 And Jesus wants the same thing with the church. 33:15 We can read a few verses later, 33:18 it even explains it in stronger language 33:21 looking now to Ephesians 5:30, 33:26 "For we are members of his body, 33:28 of his flesh, and of his bones." 33:31 It's that unity that he wants with us. 33:32 Yes. 33:33 And then, verse 31, 33:35 "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother 33:37 and shall be joined unto his wife, 33:40 and they two shall be one flesh." 33:44 And that concept 33:45 is something that has really grabbed me 33:49 as I've studied it and started to share it more. 33:53 And Jesus we know 33:55 wants to be united with the human race, 33:57 but it is deep and profound connection 34:01 that he wants with his church, 34:04 and Living in the Final Week explores this connection 34:08 from the angle of the life of Christ 34:10 and specifically the last week of his life. 34:13 And so that's why it's called Living in the Final Week. 34:15 Okay. 34:16 We look at the Final Week of his life 34:18 and as we go through it from night to night, 34:21 we see that the events that Jesus went through 34:24 and his disciples with him. 34:26 Those events were actually prophecies 34:28 of what would happen to the church 34:31 during the time period that the Bible calls 34:32 the time of the end. 34:34 Wow. 34:35 Seeing that connection and that correlation in there, 34:37 I'm just looking, 34:39 this is Living in the Final Week 34:42 walking with Jesus at the end of time. 34:43 This is the sample here of Bible prophecy seminar, 34:46 I see you have a graphic there, but if I open it up in here, 34:50 Tim, it talks about, this is powerful. 34:53 God exist from eternity 1 Timothy 117, origin of sin, 34:58 creation, death enters and it goes through the entire 35:01 all the way through history. 35:03 Yeah. 35:04 So this is a series of lessons 35:06 that you go through in your seminar? 35:07 Well, it's available as Bible study lessons 35:10 we just saw the picture that on the screen, 35:13 those are available in English and Spanish. 35:15 Ooh, nice. Great. 35:16 Both versions are there. 35:18 How many in the series? 35:19 Twenty three. Twenty three, okay. 35:21 So if we go to a church, 35:23 it's 23 presentations about four weeks for the full series, 35:27 now we can present it in a condensed way as well, 35:31 but... 35:33 And it correlates Jesus with the end time. 35:35 It does. 35:37 And everything he went through chronologically 35:40 when we look in history starting back in 1844 35:44 and moving all the way through the second coming, 35:46 everything Jesus went through was a prophecy 35:48 of something that his body would pass through 35:51 in that time period leading up to the second coming. 35:55 And the big overarching principle 35:56 is that whatever happens to the head 35:59 happens to the body... 36:00 Yeah. 36:02 Because they're united together. 36:03 And are connected in one flesh. 36:04 Wow, I'm looking at that prophetic gift 36:06 the test of faith as Luke 20 36:08 and then the prophetic gift given in Revelation 10. 36:11 That's right. Wow. 36:12 Parables of the judgment and the investigative judgment, 36:15 how that correlate together? 36:16 Like you dove, we have a couple minutes, 36:18 maybe we could look at one of these. 36:19 Yeah, let's do it. Let's do that. 36:21 Let's turn to Luke 19. 36:28 'Cause it always helps me to kind of see 36:30 what you're talking about, 36:31 like we can talk in technical terms, okay, 36:33 this correlates with this, that's great. 36:35 But if I actually see it from the Word of God 36:38 and experience it, that's a difference. 36:39 So you said Luke 19? 36:41 Luke 19, 36:43 and we're just going to start with those first events 36:46 that happened at the beginning of that final week of his life. 36:48 Yes, okay. 36:49 Which we know it began 36:50 with a triumphal entry into Jerusalem. 36:53 I'm going to read verse number 11, 36:55 this is Luke 19:11, 36:57 "And as they heard these things, 36:59 he added and spake a parable, 37:00 because he was nigh to Jerusalem, 37:03 and because they thought that the kingdom of God 37:05 should immediately appear. 37:09 You know, Jesus in those final days of his life, 37:11 he allowed a misunderstanding... 37:13 He did. To happen. 37:14 The disciples thought 37:16 he was going to ride into Jerusalem, 37:17 set up the kingdom of God on earth 37:19 and that they were going to be enjoying 37:23 their new positions in the kingdom very soon. 37:25 But we know that it didn't happen, 37:27 instead 37:29 there was a disappointment 37:31 for those disciples a few days later. 37:33 But if you look at the very next thing 37:35 that Luke tells us Jesus did, this is later in Luke 19, 37:40 instead of setting up his throne in verse 28, 37:44 we'll read about the triumphal entry there. 37:47 If you look at verse 45, 37:48 I'm sorry, it's verse 45 it says, 37:51 "He went into the temple 37:52 and began to cast out them that sold therein, 37:55 and them that bought, saying unto them, 37:57 "It is written, 'My house is a house of prayer, 37:59 ' but you have made it a 'den of thieves." 38:02 ' Instead of setting up his kingdom here on earth, 38:04 Jesus actually goes into the temple or the sanctuary. 38:08 Yes. And he cleanses. 38:09 Yes. Sure does. 38:11 And that has profound prophetic implications. 38:12 Oh, my, absolutely, it does. Yes. 38:16 We can trace this further the very next verse, 38:18 this is verse 47 says, 38:20 "He taught daily in the temple." 38:23 Well, that's kind of a passing comment 38:25 in the Book of Luke. 38:27 But Matthew actually tells us in great detail 38:30 what Jesus taught daily 38:32 during those last days of his life. 38:34 And we won't do it now 'cause we don't have time 38:36 but viewers can go to Matthew 21 through 25 38:43 and all of those chapters in the Book of Matthew 38:46 contain parables of the judgment. 38:48 Jesus spends the last week of his life 38:51 in the temple telling parables of the judgment. 38:54 Wow. 38:55 And again we understand from prophecy 38:57 the final judgment began... 38:59 Oh, yeah. In 1844. 39:00 When Jesus went into the temple in 1844. 39:02 Yes. 39:03 So that's just a little example of the parallels 39:07 that exist between the last weeks of Christ's life 39:10 and what his body experiences and goes through. 39:14 So this 23 part series if we want to call 39:18 that is actually talking about in the final week, 39:20 the entire 23 lessons? 39:23 Now, most of them, 39:25 there is a few as a beginning that lay the groundwork. 39:26 Sure. 39:28 But most of the lessons look at events 39:30 in the final week of his life. 39:31 So you teach the doctrines we could say, 39:34 as far as the Sabbath... 39:35 Absolutely. 39:36 And the sanctuary message 39:39 and what happens when we die and healthful living, 39:42 all of those from the perspective 39:44 of the final week? 39:45 That's right. 39:47 Let me give you one another example. 39:48 That's revolutionary. 39:50 I just somehow had not even grasp that in the... 39:51 I knew you did evangelism 39:53 but I just, that's revolutionary. 39:54 But you know, in Revelation 39:56 the very first verse of Revelation says, 39:58 this is the Revelation of... 39:59 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. 40:01 And so to understand all of these symbols, 40:05 you know, and there is a lot of confusing things 40:07 in the Book of Revelation, 40:08 you've got dragon, you've got beasts, 40:10 you've got scary things like the mark of beast. 40:14 And they are important, 40:16 if they weren't important 40:17 God wouldn't have put them in the Bible. 40:19 Yeah. That's right. 40:20 But we have to remember 40:21 that all of this is to reveal something greater 40:24 and that is Jesus Christ. 40:26 And so the prophecies of Revelation and Daniel 40:30 and other places in the Bible, 40:31 all of those reveal Jesus at the end of time, 40:36 and what it actually means to walk with him 40:38 at the end of time. 40:41 Give us an example? Yeah, another example. 40:42 Yeah, 'cause I need something concrete to think about it. 40:45 Let's go to the Gospel of John. Okay. 40:49 And we're going to look at chapter number 12. 40:56 This chapter describes his anointing at Bethany. 41:01 And then in verse 12 41:02 it continues with his triumphal entry. 41:05 So it's kind of an overview of the last week. 41:07 Yes. 41:08 But then it really focuses on a conversation 41:10 that Jesus has with the gentiles. 41:14 Some Greeks that came to visit him. 41:16 And what Jesus tells them is really important, 41:19 these are his last public words. 41:21 Okay. 41:22 This probably happened Thursday afternoon sometime. 41:25 The Bible doesn't say that 41:26 but it's the last public words of God 41:29 in the Gospel of John. 41:31 So what does Jesus say, if you look in verse 24, 41:35 one thing that Jesus says, you see it explains the gospel, 41:39 it says, "Except a corn of wheat fall 41:41 into the ground and die, it abides alone, 41:43 but if it die, it brings forth much fruit." 41:46 That's the gospel on a nutshell. 41:48 We're in a seed ring. Yeah. 41:50 That's true. 41:53 And then a few verses later, 41:56 this is verse 28, 41:58 Jesus says, "Father, glorify thy name." 42:02 So he's trying to direct praise to God, 42:04 so that the Father can be glorified. 42:07 Now if we look at verse 31, 42:09 Jesus says something else really interesting. 42:11 He says, "Now is the judgment of this world." 42:17 He's talking about a judgment that is happening in the world 42:20 at that time right then. 42:23 And then at the end of that chapter, 42:26 the very last thing that Jesus says, 42:30 this is verse 48, 42:32 he says, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not my words, 42:35 half one that judgeth him. 42:37 The word that I've spoken the same 42:38 shall judge him in the last day." 42:40 So he's directing people's attention 42:42 back to the Word of God. 42:43 He sure is. 42:45 In the very last verses I know 42:46 that his commandment is life everlasting. 42:50 These are the things Jesus talks about the gospel, 42:52 glorifying God, 42:54 a judgment that is happening at that time, 42:56 and then in urgent plea to order your life 43:00 according to the commandments of God. 43:02 Well, this is a very last message 43:04 that Revelation... 43:05 Revelation 14. Exactly. 43:07 The three angels' messages in Revelation 14. 43:08 I was thinking of that. Yeah. 43:10 Whatever the head has done, whatever happens to the head, 43:13 the body must do as well. 43:16 And so... 43:18 That's deep. 43:19 It's been our experience. You know, that's deep. 43:21 It's different than how we normally study the Bible. 43:24 You know, we think. 43:25 okay, I'm going to study and see what God has to show me 43:28 and that's a wonderful thing. 43:29 Or we think I'm going to study 43:31 and learn a deeper truth and that's great, 43:34 but this is revolutionary in how you look 43:36 at the final events of Jesus' life in the final week, 43:39 and how that correlates to us as the body 43:42 down at the end of time and that's powerful. 43:46 You know, it truly keeps Jesus at the center of prophecy. 43:48 It does. 43:49 And as we go through the subjects, 43:51 we look at all of the prophecies, 43:53 we look at all of the unique doctrines 43:56 you know, the pillars of faiths, 43:58 practical godliness, 43:59 it's all there in the life of Christ. 44:02 You know, he is the way, he is the truth. 44:05 He is the example that we have. Amen. 44:07 Ad so that's what we try to bring out 44:09 as we share this with churches 44:12 and with communities as well. 44:14 Amen. 44:16 So these are available, 44:17 this product is available like this, 44:19 I'm looking at this here Living the Final Week, 44:22 so all of these lessons are 23 part series 44:24 is available for people to order 44:26 and to like present themselves or how do you do that? 44:29 Yeah, they're available on our website 44:31 pathwaytoparadise.org. 44:34 And it's certainly free to share those 44:37 study them in their own small group. 44:40 We want this message out there 44:42 in whatever way it works best 44:43 but we're certainly happy to come 44:45 and either spend a weekend with the church 44:48 or you know whole month 44:49 if they want to share with the community. 44:51 Okay, so that's interesting 44:52 so it's actually 'cause you said 23, 44:53 so you actually want to come just for one weekend 44:56 and would you do just like amass all 23 or how it's... 44:59 Almost a knockdown version... 45:01 Bring your sleeping bags. See this sounds all stressful. 45:04 All night, so there is options 45:06 because you're actually willing if am I getting this right 45:08 that to go and actually present these at church for a weekend 45:13 or even you said four weeks. 45:15 So tell us a little bit about that in the last few minutes? 45:16 Yeah, if it's presented in a weekend 45:19 it's more of a revival... 45:21 Okay. 45:22 Seminar or series 45:24 and so there is a lot of the groundwork 45:26 that we would either pass quickly over 45:29 or maybe not need to do 45:31 if we're focusing on things 45:33 that hopefully they're already familiar by and large. 45:38 And we'll just, you know, focus on those aspects 45:40 that the church can benefit the most 45:43 from when we do it over three or four weeks seminar... 45:47 Yes. Oh, yeah. 45:48 You know, we move pretty slowly 45:49 and you have to build the building blocks. 45:52 And that would be more evangelistic in nature? 45:54 Correct. Okay. 45:56 So you said you've been busy. 45:57 We have been. Yeah. 45:59 Praise the Lord 'cause this is, 46:00 I want to say, it sort of brand new. 46:02 The last year you've been full-time. 46:04 How many years has it been since you first have that call 46:07 when the evangelist called and you went forward? 46:10 Little over eight years. Eight years. 46:12 So the Lord is patient and he brings, 46:15 you know, he's brought us step by step as well. 46:18 And I'm thankful for his patience. 46:21 Amen. Isn't that exciting? 46:22 It's just exciting to see 46:24 what God is doing in your life 46:25 and your wife Stacy and the family, 46:28 the ministry that God is growing. 46:30 And to me it's encouraging because God calls you, 46:33 God calls me, God calls each one of us into ministry, 46:37 so we want to encourage you, 46:38 whatever call he's put on your life. 46:41 Maybe you went forward when an evangelist called, 46:44 maybe you heard a sermon on the radio and you said, 46:46 yes, God, I want to step forward, 46:48 I want to do what you've called me to do. 46:51 We want to encourage you to get involved in ministry. 46:55 Whatever God has called you to do, 46:56 step out and to do that. 46:59 And what we want to do right now 47:00 is to put the address roll 47:03 for Tim and this ministry Pathway to Paradise Ministry, 47:06 it's a wonderful ministry. 47:08 If you want to get involved in Shine, 47:10 if you and your family, 47:12 your children want to come and come to Fletcher 47:14 this next summer and get involved in that. 47:17 If you want more information on the 23 part series 47:19 or you want them to come to your church, 47:22 your area for an extended evangelistic series 47:25 or possibly just a weekend, 47:26 here is how you can do just that. 47:31 If you would like to know more about this ministry 47:33 or how you can get 47:34 your children involved in Shine, 47:36 then you can write to Pathway to Paradise Ministries, 47:39 PO Box 23, Kingsville, Missouri, 64061. 47:44 That's Pathway to Paradise Ministries, 47:47 PO Box 23, Kingsville, Missouri, 64061. 47:53 You can visit them online for Bible answers, 47:55 newsletters and more at pathwaytoparadise.org. 47:59 That's pathwaytoparadise.org. 48:03 Or you can learn more about Shine at ShineKids.net. 48:07 That's ShineKids.net. 48:15 Excellent information and as always 48:17 if you fail to have a pen and paper ready, 48:20 you can always call 3ABN at 618-627-4651, 48:25 and they'll be happy to give you 48:27 Tim Rumsey's contact information 48:29 which is for the ministry of Pathway to Paradise, 48:32 and always it is a blessing isn't it 48:34 to have these ministries present 48:36 what God is doing through them, 48:38 and it's always an encouragement. 48:39 It is, it always encourages and blesses my heart, 48:41 and I know I've been blessed today 48:43 as a result of you sharing about the ministry 48:45 and how God encouraged you to step out by faith. 48:48 Now one thing we failed to mention 48:50 at the beginning of the program 48:52 and maybe we should have done this at the beginning 48:54 is you are an associate speaker 48:57 for White Horse Media. 48:59 That's right. 49:00 With Steve Wohlberg, 49:02 and something that you present an evangelistic series 49:04 we're airing right now. 49:05 That's right, 49:07 it's another series called Fire from Heaven. 49:10 And that is a four part video series, 49:13 they're 30 minutes each. 49:15 And it looks at the judgment of God 49:18 and the question how does God respond to sin. 49:21 Does he always respond in the same way? 49:24 Has he done it differently in the past? 49:27 Will he respond to sin and deal with it differently 49:30 at the end of time. 49:31 And so we look at kind of these big questions. 49:34 And the real focus of the series is to show 49:39 that God never changes. 49:40 Yes. Bible is very clear about that. 49:42 And so the way that God 49:44 has responded to sin in the past 49:46 and we start by looking at stories in Genesis. 49:49 And God always goes through a process of investigation. 49:53 Look at the story of Adam and Eve. 49:57 Why did he come and look for Adam and Eve 49:59 in the Garden of Eden that first evening? 50:02 He knew where they were, knew what they had done. 50:05 He didn't have to ask questions 50:07 but he goes through this process of investigation 50:10 not so that he can determine truth, 50:12 he already knows. 50:13 He does. Right. 50:14 But to give them an opportunity to confess... 50:17 Yes. 50:18 To repent and to understand and trust his character. 50:22 You can look at stories through the entire Bible 50:24 especially in Genesis 50:26 and God always does the same thing. 50:28 After Cain kills Abel... 50:30 I was just thinking of that. 50:31 He talks with Cain, he doesn't just kick him off. 50:36 He gives Cain a chance to confess 50:39 and we see the same thing with the Tower of Babel. 50:41 Yeah. 50:43 God looks, he investigates 50:45 before he confuses the languages 50:47 and a wonderful example is Sodom and Gomorrah. 50:51 He personally comes down 50:53 and spends time on the ground so to speak, 50:56 and he investigates to see 50:58 if the cry that has risen to heaven is accurate. 51:02 And what a picture of God, isn't it? 51:03 Yeah. 51:04 Yeah, love, care, concern. 51:06 Absolutely. 51:08 Beautiful, isn't it? 51:09 And to God you can trust. 51:10 And it makes you want to respond. 51:12 Yeah. 51:13 You know to have a God like that. 51:14 Well, that's powerful. 51:16 So in that series we just look at those examples 51:17 and a few others through the Bible 51:20 and then apply it to Revelation 51:22 and what Revelation tells us 51:24 is actually happening right now. 51:26 Amen. That's exciting. 51:28 Now that series, I know this program 51:29 that we're recording now 51:31 is going to air several different times 51:33 so it might not be, 51:34 Tim series might not be airing currently 51:36 when this program airs, we want to make that clear. 51:38 But that's wonderful, praise God 51:40 for what he's doing in your life 51:42 and your family's life and the work he has for you, 51:46 so we just praise the Lord for that. 51:48 It's very humbling. Yeah. 51:50 And exciting. Yeah. 51:51 It's neat to be involved in ministry isn't it, 51:53 and be involved in God's work. 51:55 And I know that, 51:56 I'm going to just go out on a limb here 51:58 'cause I'm sure it's true but you have no regrets, 52:00 do you for stepping out by faith? 52:02 Absolutely not. 52:03 And I know God is providing for you 52:05 and will continue to do so. 52:07 And again we provided that contact information, 52:10 I asked him, I said are you fully booked 52:11 for the next year and he says not quite, 52:13 so if you do have interest 52:14 in having him come to your church, 52:16 either for short weekend 52:17 or maybe even for a longer series. 52:19 Make sure you do that, 52:21 because God is moving on this young family 52:23 and it's neat to see them stepping out in faith. 52:27 We have a few closing thoughts in a couple of minutes 52:29 but before we get to that, 52:30 we want go to some important information. |
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