I want to spend my life 00:00:01.36\00:00:07.27 Mending broken people 00:00:07.30\00:00:12.07 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.11\00:00:18.25 Removing pain 00:00:18.28\00:00:23.39 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.42\00:00:29.66 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.69\00:00:34.20 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.23\00:00:40.07 Mending broken people 00:00:40.10\00:00:45.47 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.51\00:00:51.08 Mending broken people 00:00:51.11\00:00:55.05 Hello, friends, and welcome to another 3ABN today program. 00:01:06.76\00:01:10.37 It's a blessing to join with you each and every day, 00:01:10.40\00:01:12.87 thank you for tuning into 3ABN. 00:01:12.90\00:01:14.34 That's right. 00:01:14.37\00:01:15.70 We always appreciate your prayers 00:01:15.74\00:01:17.41 and support of the ministry of 3ABN. 00:01:17.44\00:01:19.67 Many of you have stood with us 00:01:19.71\00:01:21.64 from the very beginning of 3ABN, 00:01:21.68\00:01:23.51 and thank you so much because you know what? 00:01:23.55\00:01:25.51 We're a team and we're on a winning team 00:01:25.55\00:01:28.02 because we're on Christ side, aren't we? 00:01:28.05\00:01:29.78 And it's all about winning souls for Jesus Christ, 00:01:29.82\00:01:32.72 so thank you again for your support 00:01:32.75\00:01:34.36 through all the years and it's neat to hear 00:01:34.39\00:01:36.22 how God is working in many people's lives. 00:01:36.26\00:01:38.73 And today we have a wonderful interview, 00:01:38.76\00:01:40.10 don't we? 00:01:40.13\00:01:41.46 We do, I like the today program 00:01:41.50\00:01:42.83 because we can feature and show testimonies of people 00:01:42.86\00:01:46.20 whose lives have been changed, 00:01:46.23\00:01:48.00 people who have stepped out into ministry 00:01:48.04\00:01:51.31 and our impact in other people's lives. 00:01:51.34\00:01:53.38 And we have such a guest today. 00:01:53.41\00:01:55.51 Our special guest today is Tim Rumsey. 00:01:55.54\00:01:58.75 He is a speaker director for Pathway 00:01:58.78\00:02:00.75 to Paradise Ministries. 00:02:00.78\00:02:02.28 And, Tim, we're just so glad to have you here today. 00:02:02.32\00:02:05.72 Thank you. Good to be here. 00:02:05.75\00:02:07.56 We're looking forward to hearing your story 00:02:07.59\00:02:09.26 and what Pathway to Paradise Ministries 00:02:09.29\00:02:11.13 is all about and un-packaging 00:02:11.16\00:02:13.19 what he does and it's an exciting testimony. 00:02:13.23\00:02:16.26 It really is because it's neat 00:02:16.30\00:02:17.70 because in this interview today, 00:02:17.73\00:02:19.63 you're going to hear what God is doing in his life 00:02:19.67\00:02:22.37 and in his ministry but also it's a call to you, 00:02:22.40\00:02:25.07 because all of us are called we have a purpose 00:02:25.11\00:02:27.48 and that is to spread God's love to others 00:02:27.51\00:02:30.35 and we don't maybe necessary have 00:02:30.38\00:02:31.78 to have a ministry with a so called 00:02:31.81\00:02:33.58 maybe name like Pathway 00:02:33.62\00:02:35.32 to, Pathway, I make sure I get this right... 00:02:35.35\00:02:37.22 Pathway to Paradise. 00:02:37.25\00:02:38.59 Paradise, but you can be in your own living room, 00:02:38.62\00:02:40.46 in your church and God has a plan for you too, 00:02:40.49\00:02:43.22 so we want you to remember that as we go through this 00:02:43.26\00:02:44.93 wonderful story and what God is doing today 00:02:44.96\00:02:46.86 in this ministry. 00:02:46.90\00:02:48.23 Amen. 00:02:48.26\00:02:49.60 And that's why we want to hear the testimony of Tim Rumsey 00:02:49.63\00:02:52.03 and his family to hear 00:02:52.07\00:02:53.60 how God is working in their lives, 00:02:53.64\00:02:56.50 in this ministry having them step out into ministry, 00:02:56.54\00:02:59.74 how they got involved in ministry, 00:02:59.77\00:03:01.58 and how God wants each one of us 00:03:01.61\00:03:03.01 to be involved in ministry as well. 00:03:03.04\00:03:05.11 Before we go to his testimony 00:03:05.15\00:03:06.92 and as he shares about the ministry, 00:03:06.95\00:03:08.98 we want to go to a scripture, 00:03:09.02\00:03:10.45 I asked Tim before the program began, 00:03:10.49\00:03:12.55 if they have a certain scripture 00:03:12.59\00:03:14.16 that they especially use or especially like 00:03:14.19\00:03:17.13 with this ministry. 00:03:17.16\00:03:18.49 And the scripture is Psalms 119:105, 00:03:18.53\00:03:23.13 I'm sure you can quote it with me, 00:03:23.16\00:03:25.20 "Your word is a lamp to my feet, 00:03:25.23\00:03:28.97 and a light to my path." 00:03:29.00\00:03:31.61 Before we go to his testimony, we want to have some music, 00:03:31.64\00:03:35.31 we're going to be hearing from Sandra Entermann. 00:03:35.34\00:03:38.65 She is a wonderful friend of this ministry 00:03:38.68\00:03:40.52 and we always love it when she comes 00:03:40.55\00:03:42.15 and when she can minister music to us, 00:03:42.18\00:03:45.12 and she will be doing the song "O Calvary's Lamb." 00:03:45.15\00:03:49.12 This faltering tongue 00:04:05.94\00:04:09.94 Would dare to speak 00:04:09.98\00:04:14.18 Of Thee my Lord 00:04:14.22\00:04:18.25 From one so weak 00:04:18.29\00:04:22.42 I must not keep 00:04:22.46\00:04:26.46 From thee my praise 00:04:26.49\00:04:31.47 For thy glory I will lift my voice 00:04:31.50\00:04:36.10 And sing 00:04:36.14\00:04:38.57 O Calvary's Lamb 00:04:38.61\00:04:42.84 O righteous one 00:04:42.88\00:04:46.51 For sinners died 00:04:46.55\00:04:50.59 Whose sins were none 00:04:50.62\00:04:54.52 All that I have 00:04:54.56\00:04:58.43 All that I am 00:04:58.46\00:05:02.96 I owe to Thee 00:05:03.00\00:05:07.67 O Calvary's Lamb 00:05:07.70\00:05:12.77 And when mine eyes 00:05:16.51\00:05:20.42 At last shall see 00:05:20.45\00:05:24.15 Thy holy face 00:05:24.19\00:05:27.96 I'll bow to thee 00:05:27.99\00:05:31.76 Before Thy throne 00:05:31.79\00:05:35.60 With those redeemed 00:05:35.63\00:05:40.24 Unto Thee O Lord 00:05:40.27\00:05:42.57 I'll lift my voice and sing 00:05:42.60\00:05:47.31 O Calvary's Lamb 00:05:47.34\00:05:51.15 O righteous One 00:05:51.18\00:05:54.92 For sinners died 00:05:54.95\00:05:58.79 Whose sins were none 00:05:58.82\00:06:02.59 All that I have 00:06:02.62\00:06:06.29 All that I am 00:06:06.33\00:06:10.60 I owe to Thee 00:06:10.63\00:06:15.47 O Calvary's Lamb 00:06:15.50\00:06:21.04 O Calvary's Lamb 00:06:33.66\00:06:37.79 O righteous One 00:06:37.83\00:06:41.66 For sinners died 00:06:41.70\00:06:45.67 Whose sins were none 00:06:45.70\00:06:49.77 All that I have 00:06:49.80\00:06:53.54 All that I am 00:06:53.58\00:06:58.95 I owe to Thee 00:07:01.42\00:07:05.92 O Calvary's Lamb 00:07:08.96\00:07:15.96 Amen, thank you so very much Sandra, what a powerful song. 00:07:35.92\00:07:39.55 Amen. 00:07:39.59\00:07:40.92 O Calvary's Lamb, I tell you 00:07:40.96\00:07:42.29 we praise the Lord for Jesus Christ 00:07:42.32\00:07:43.66 and that gift that he gave to us, 00:07:43.69\00:07:45.03 the gift of salvation so many years ago 00:07:45.06\00:07:46.80 and that's why we want to continue 00:07:46.83\00:07:48.16 to spend our lives doing, isn't it? 00:07:48.20\00:07:50.13 Just to spread God's love 00:07:50.17\00:07:51.50 and that gift of salvation to others. 00:07:51.53\00:07:53.10 Amen, that's right. 00:07:53.13\00:07:54.47 If you're just joining us, 00:07:54.50\00:07:55.84 we have a special guest Tim Rumsey with us 00:07:55.87\00:07:58.07 with Pathway to Paradise. 00:07:58.11\00:07:59.87 I got that Pathway to Paradise Ministries. 00:07:59.91\00:08:02.34 And, Tim, we're so glad to have you here. 00:08:02.38\00:08:04.38 Before we talk about the ministry 00:08:04.41\00:08:06.25 and how God called you into that, 00:08:06.28\00:08:08.18 take us back to who you are 00:08:08.22\00:08:10.99 and may be give a little bit of growing up and... 00:08:11.02\00:08:13.05 Sure. 00:08:13.09\00:08:14.42 And share little about your family 00:08:14.46\00:08:15.79 because I know that your family is not on the set, 00:08:15.82\00:08:17.93 they're here close by but tell us 00:08:17.96\00:08:19.63 a little about your family as well. 00:08:19.66\00:08:21.00 Certainly. 00:08:21.03\00:08:22.36 Well, let's start with the picture of my family 00:08:22.40\00:08:23.83 because this isn't just my ministry, 00:08:23.87\00:08:26.23 it's something that we're doing together 00:08:26.27\00:08:28.04 as a family. 00:08:28.07\00:08:29.67 Oh, they're precious. 00:08:29.70\00:08:32.44 Tell us about your wife's name and your children? 00:08:32.47\00:08:34.44 Yeah, my wife Stacy, and our three children. 00:08:34.48\00:08:38.11 This picture is actually almost a year old 00:08:38.15\00:08:39.91 so we're going to need to get a new one. 00:08:39.95\00:08:42.62 But right behind me is our oldest son, 00:08:42.65\00:08:45.45 his name is James. 00:08:45.49\00:08:46.82 Okay. He's four and half right now. 00:08:46.86\00:08:49.66 And then his brother is peeking out 00:08:49.69\00:08:52.53 behind Stacy there, his name is Paul, 00:08:52.56\00:08:55.26 he'll be there in just a couple weeks. 00:08:55.30\00:08:57.90 And then our little baby girl Jenna 00:08:57.93\00:08:59.77 is about a year and a half old right now. 00:08:59.80\00:09:01.64 Wow. What great smiles. 00:09:01.67\00:09:04.14 I know we met you at ASI this past summer at ASI 00:09:04.17\00:09:09.08 and we're just blessed by the ministry 00:09:09.11\00:09:11.28 and by what God has called you to do 00:09:11.31\00:09:12.88 but did you grow up in a Christian home, 00:09:12.91\00:09:14.55 were you always Christian? 00:09:14.58\00:09:15.92 Yes, grown up as a Christian, as an Adventist. 00:09:15.95\00:09:20.49 Had a wonderful home, wonderful parents 00:09:20.52\00:09:22.19 and what a blessing that has been. 00:09:22.22\00:09:25.29 Very thankful for that as well. 00:09:25.33\00:09:28.06 Just the low background on me, I'm a musician by training. 00:09:28.10\00:09:32.30 Okay. 00:09:32.33\00:09:33.67 I taught music in a couple of our academies, 00:09:33.70\00:09:35.24 our boarding academies for about a decade. 00:09:35.27\00:09:38.34 What type of music? 00:09:38.37\00:09:40.21 Band was my area, I've taught choir and handbells 00:09:40.24\00:09:43.71 and piano lessons as well, you kind of do everything. 00:09:43.75\00:09:46.92 Oh, yeah. When you are teaching. 00:09:46.95\00:09:48.92 Yeah. 00:09:48.95\00:09:50.79 And composition is 00:09:50.82\00:09:52.39 where I've received lot of my training. 00:09:52.42\00:09:55.89 So your degree is in music then? 00:09:55.92\00:09:57.43 Degree is in music. 00:09:57.46\00:09:58.79 Oh, I did not know that, okay. 00:09:58.83\00:10:00.16 So this shift into, to ministry is something new for us 00:10:00.20\00:10:04.97 and something that we've definitely have seen 00:10:05.00\00:10:06.94 the Lord guiding us into, 00:10:06.97\00:10:09.77 otherwise I'm sure I'd still be teaching music 00:10:09.80\00:10:11.97 some place so. 00:10:12.01\00:10:13.74 We're just humbled and thankful to see 00:10:13.78\00:10:16.75 how the Lord works with everybody. 00:10:16.78\00:10:19.08 And he has a purpose and a plan for everybody's life. 00:10:19.11\00:10:22.02 And it doesn't matter what our background is 00:10:22.05\00:10:24.29 or where we've been or what we have 00:10:24.32\00:10:26.25 or haven't done, 00:10:26.29\00:10:27.62 he still has that calling and that purpose for us. 00:10:27.66\00:10:31.69 So tell me in the call to step out into ministry here, 00:10:31.73\00:10:35.96 you were teaching, you're doing music, 00:10:36.00\00:10:37.97 you're satisfied, fulfilled, 00:10:38.00\00:10:39.73 did you feel like an emptiness like, wow, 00:10:39.77\00:10:42.80 I should be doing something different 00:10:42.84\00:10:44.17 or how did that come about? 00:10:44.21\00:10:46.34 It was kind of a surprise to me. 00:10:46.37\00:10:48.31 It actually happened a few months 00:10:48.34\00:10:49.84 after we were married. 00:10:49.88\00:10:51.51 And so this is one reason 00:10:51.55\00:10:52.88 that we see this really as God's calling 00:10:52.91\00:10:54.28 for our family. 00:10:54.32\00:10:55.65 Okay. 00:10:55.68\00:10:57.02 All of us, both of us at a time before we had children 00:10:57.05\00:11:00.06 to make this step. 00:11:00.09\00:11:02.42 An evangelist came through our local church for a weekend 00:11:02.46\00:11:05.26 and at the end of his meetings, 00:11:05.29\00:11:07.33 he made several appeals and calls 00:11:07.36\00:11:09.16 but one of those was, 00:11:09.20\00:11:10.63 if you feel the Lord calling you 00:11:10.67\00:11:12.03 to full-time gospel ministry, then come forward. 00:11:12.07\00:11:15.50 And we were sitting on the back row of the church, 00:11:15.54\00:11:18.24 and all of a sudden my wife looked over 00:11:18.27\00:11:21.04 and I wasn't there anymore 00:11:21.08\00:11:22.41 because I was walking up to the front. 00:11:22.44\00:11:24.55 And as I was talking with her later that afternoon, she said, 00:11:24.58\00:11:28.85 when I saw you go up, I knew something was happening 00:11:28.88\00:11:31.42 because, you know, you're not the kind of person 00:11:31.45\00:11:33.56 that usually just goes up for these kind of things. 00:11:33.59\00:11:36.52 And definitely felt the Lord and Holy Sprit urging me, 00:11:36.56\00:11:41.86 you need to make this commitment. 00:11:41.90\00:11:44.07 You know, that's amazing because when you think about, 00:11:44.10\00:11:46.07 you know, your involvement with young people, correct? 00:11:46.10\00:11:47.70 You're teaching band in an academy, 00:11:47.74\00:11:49.70 you've a lot of impact, 00:11:49.74\00:11:51.07 positive impact, you know, for young people 00:11:51.11\00:11:52.64 so to make this decision sounds like just like that, 00:11:52.67\00:11:55.91 the minister evangelist gave a call and you responded. 00:11:55.94\00:12:00.55 Well, we began praying earnestly 00:12:00.58\00:12:02.65 that Lord would show us, you know, what does this mean. 00:12:02.68\00:12:04.65 At this point we feel kind of like Abraham. 00:12:04.69\00:12:06.02 Yeah. 00:12:06.05\00:12:07.39 We don't know where we were going. 00:12:07.42\00:12:08.76 So this is after you went forward? 00:12:08.79\00:12:10.13 After I went forward. 00:12:10.16\00:12:11.49 You started praying earnestly God what do you want me to do. 00:12:11.53\00:12:13.33 Yeah. Wow. 00:12:13.36\00:12:14.70 And we prayed for about eight months, 00:12:14.73\00:12:18.33 that the Lord would show us what he wants us to do 00:12:18.37\00:12:21.30 and he actually sent me back into teaching again and... 00:12:21.34\00:12:25.54 Music or something different? Music once again, yes. 00:12:25.57\00:12:27.61 Okay. 00:12:27.64\00:12:28.98 And it was a wonderful experience 00:12:29.01\00:12:30.75 and I actually had the opportunity 00:12:30.78\00:12:33.21 at that new position to teach some Bible as well. 00:12:33.25\00:12:35.98 Now what school was this at? 00:12:36.02\00:12:37.79 That was at Bass Memorial Academy. 00:12:37.82\00:12:39.75 Okay. Mississippi. 00:12:39.79\00:12:41.16 Yeah, that's right. 00:12:41.19\00:12:42.72 You know, I want to just touch on this real briefly because, 00:12:42.76\00:12:45.13 you know, I think this could be experience for many people. 00:12:45.16\00:12:49.13 You felt that God has called you to do something, 00:12:49.16\00:12:51.63 so you step out what you did, you know, you felt man, God, 00:12:51.67\00:12:54.07 I need to do something. 00:12:54.10\00:12:55.64 You felt the call so you went forward, 00:12:55.67\00:12:57.31 and then you prayed 00:12:57.34\00:12:58.74 and it seemed as though nothing happened, 00:12:58.77\00:13:01.38 could we say that? 00:13:01.41\00:13:03.04 And then you went back into what you were doing. 00:13:03.08\00:13:06.28 And so that could really I mean, 00:13:06.31\00:13:07.65 to be honest with you, that happens 00:13:07.68\00:13:09.02 I'm going to say to many people 00:13:09.05\00:13:10.39 'cause it's happened to me too. 00:13:10.42\00:13:11.75 And it could be almost a confusing time 00:13:11.79\00:13:13.92 in somebody's life like okay 00:13:13.96\00:13:15.29 was that really God then that I felt talking to me. 00:13:15.32\00:13:18.86 How did you deal with all of that? 00:13:18.89\00:13:20.23 Was that confusing for you? 00:13:20.26\00:13:21.60 Well, like I said, we've prayed for eight months 00:13:21.63\00:13:23.50 and we finally set up a deadline 00:13:23.53\00:13:25.50 because we needed to let our current employers 00:13:25.53\00:13:28.80 know what we're going to do. 00:13:28.84\00:13:30.17 Of course. 00:13:30.21\00:13:31.54 After eight months of praying, the Lord answered those prayers 00:13:31.57\00:13:34.78 one night before the deadline we got the phone call. 00:13:34.81\00:13:38.05 Oh, wow. 00:13:38.08\00:13:39.41 From Bass Memorial Academy. Okay. 00:13:39.45\00:13:41.22 So at that point it's not something 00:13:41.25\00:13:42.68 you can really ignore or brush aside, 00:13:42.72\00:13:44.82 you have to say this is obviously the Lord, 00:13:44.85\00:13:46.82 the Lord leading here. 00:13:46.86\00:13:48.59 And so we definitely knew that 00:13:48.62\00:13:50.33 this is what he wanted us to do. 00:13:50.36\00:13:52.79 So from your current school you're employed at, 00:13:52.83\00:13:54.76 then you moved to Bass Memorial? 00:13:54.80\00:13:56.26 That's right. Okay. 00:13:56.30\00:13:57.63 And you felt like this is part of the call like 00:13:57.67\00:14:00.00 God has this call and I don't know exactly 00:14:00.04\00:14:02.60 how you're going to fold it, 00:14:02.64\00:14:03.97 but this is what God's how he is leading? 00:14:04.01\00:14:05.74 That's right. 00:14:05.77\00:14:07.31 We were there for three years, had wonderful experience, 00:14:07.34\00:14:11.21 met lots of really great people. 00:14:11.25\00:14:13.88 And eventually moved on from that 00:14:13.92\00:14:17.22 and moved to Colorado... 00:14:17.25\00:14:20.06 And went to work for my father-in-law. 00:14:20.09\00:14:22.12 And so kind of joined the family business 00:14:22.16\00:14:23.49 for a while. 00:14:23.53\00:14:24.86 What does he do? 00:14:24.89\00:14:26.23 He develops and manages assisted living facility. 00:14:26.26\00:14:28.86 Okay. 00:14:28.90\00:14:30.23 And so that was a great experience as well, 00:14:30.27\00:14:32.93 very different from teaching. 00:14:32.97\00:14:34.30 Oh, yes. 00:14:34.34\00:14:35.67 But that gave me the opportunity 00:14:35.70\00:14:37.04 through connection with some of the local churches 00:14:37.07\00:14:38.84 out there in Colorado 00:14:38.87\00:14:40.71 to begin doing some speaking in 00:14:40.74\00:14:43.18 one of the churches kind of stepped out 00:14:43.21\00:14:44.78 and gave me the opportunity to do 00:14:44.81\00:14:46.82 an evangelistic series, and... 00:14:46.85\00:14:50.05 So did you know when you went forward, 00:14:50.09\00:14:51.89 when that evangelist made the call, did you know 00:14:51.92\00:14:53.69 okay, God, this is what the ministry is 00:14:53.72\00:14:55.12 going to look like? 00:14:55.16\00:14:56.49 Or you really had no idea, 00:14:56.52\00:14:57.86 you just knew there was a call in my life 00:14:57.89\00:14:59.23 but I don't know exactly 00:14:59.26\00:15:00.60 what it's supposed to look like? 00:15:00.63\00:15:01.96 We didn't have a clue what it really meant. 00:15:02.00\00:15:03.73 We were excited. 00:15:03.77\00:15:05.10 We knew this definitely was something 00:15:05.13\00:15:07.30 the Lord was leading 00:15:07.34\00:15:08.67 but at least for us in our experience, 00:15:08.70\00:15:11.01 we've never seen the big picture. 00:15:11.04\00:15:13.88 It seems like God works that way. 00:15:13.91\00:15:15.88 He shows you just what you need 00:15:15.91\00:15:17.25 for the next step. 00:15:17.28\00:15:18.61 Amen. But that builds faith. 00:15:18.65\00:15:20.02 Yeah, it reminds me of Abraham, I was just thinking of Abraham, 00:15:20.05\00:15:22.52 he was called to go into a land, a country, 00:15:22.55\00:15:24.65 really didn't even know what he's going to be doing there, 00:15:24.69\00:15:26.65 where he was going actually, but he knew God had called. 00:15:26.69\00:15:30.53 Tell us a little bit about what Pathway to Paradise is 00:15:30.56\00:15:32.89 what your ministry is 'cause we're starting now 00:15:32.93\00:15:34.36 to talk about the evangelistic part of it, 00:15:34.40\00:15:36.20 what is Pathway to Paradise? 00:15:36.23\00:15:39.90 That's the name of that first series 00:15:39.93\00:15:42.20 that I wrote evangelistic series, 00:15:42.24\00:15:43.94 it was named Pathway to Paradise. 00:15:43.97\00:15:45.64 That you did in Colorado? 00:15:45.67\00:15:47.48 And Jesus of course is the pathway and the way, 00:15:47.51\00:15:50.85 the truth, and the life. 00:15:50.88\00:15:52.21 Amen. 00:15:52.25\00:15:53.58 And so when we were looking for a name for the ministry itself, 00:15:53.62\00:15:56.89 we couldn't think of anything better than that. 00:15:56.92\00:15:59.45 Oh, that's a great name. 00:15:59.49\00:16:00.92 And that's what we try to do no matter what we're doing, 00:16:00.96\00:16:03.09 and we're going to be talking about some different programs 00:16:03.12\00:16:06.56 as we move forward here, 00:16:06.59\00:16:08.10 but the focus and purpose of all those is 00:16:08.13\00:16:10.77 to direct people to Jesus. 00:16:10.80\00:16:13.27 Show them what it means to walk with him today. 00:16:13.30\00:16:16.00 Yeah, that's great. 00:16:16.04\00:16:17.37 So you were working for your father-in-law 00:16:17.41\00:16:19.54 doing the family business 00:16:19.57\00:16:20.91 and then doing evangelism on the side 00:16:20.94\00:16:22.78 or how did that work? 00:16:22.81\00:16:24.48 He gave me quite a bit of free time 00:16:24.51\00:16:28.92 to do evangelism and try to build this ministry 00:16:28.95\00:16:32.72 as I was working for him, which was very grateful. 00:16:32.75\00:16:34.72 It's a blessing. Oh, yeah. 00:16:34.76\00:16:36.62 He has a heart for the church and the Lord's work as well. 00:16:36.66\00:16:40.86 About a year ago we were doing an evangelistic series 00:16:40.90\00:16:43.47 up in Montana. 00:16:43.50\00:16:45.03 And as we were doing that series 00:16:45.07\00:16:48.37 which lasted for about a month. 00:16:48.40\00:16:49.97 My wife and I both just became very convicted 00:16:50.01\00:16:52.31 that when the Lord had called us 00:16:52.34\00:16:54.61 in the full-time ministry that's actually what he meant. 00:16:54.64\00:16:56.95 Oh, wow. 00:16:56.98\00:16:58.31 Full-time don't be doing this 00:16:58.35\00:16:59.85 and try to work in a family business, 00:16:59.88\00:17:02.52 don't be doing this and try to do anything else, 00:17:02.55\00:17:05.25 this is what I want you doing. 00:17:05.29\00:17:07.26 So we started really praying about that... 00:17:07.29\00:17:09.36 Oh, that's serious. Wrestling with that. 00:17:09.39\00:17:10.93 Yes. 00:17:10.96\00:17:12.29 And we didn't say anything to her parents, my boss, 00:17:12.33\00:17:17.67 and when we got back from that series 00:17:17.70\00:17:19.67 we live on the same property together, 00:17:19.70\00:17:21.24 so when we got back home the very first thing 00:17:21.27\00:17:23.87 that my father-in-law said, was welcome back, 00:17:23.91\00:17:27.34 how do we get you doing this ministry full-time? 00:17:27.38\00:17:31.45 Into what? That's Jesus. 00:17:31.48\00:17:33.28 Wow, conformation. Absolutely. 00:17:33.31\00:17:35.48 And so my mouth kind of dropped down 00:17:35.52\00:17:37.02 and I picked it back up. 00:17:37.05\00:17:38.99 Put my tongue back and I said, wow, okay. 00:17:39.02\00:17:41.52 And then we shared with him what we've been praying about 00:17:41.56\00:17:43.96 for the last three or four weeks. 00:17:43.99\00:17:46.13 And then what happened just that weekend, right? 00:17:46.16\00:17:48.40 Before you came home? 00:17:48.43\00:17:50.50 Yeah, at the beginning 00:17:50.53\00:17:51.87 and at the beginning of that series 00:17:51.90\00:17:53.84 we had send off our application for a 501c3 status. 00:17:53.87\00:17:58.31 Okay. 00:17:58.34\00:17:59.67 And we've been told to wait for that 00:17:59.71\00:18:01.54 12 to 18 months 00:18:01.58\00:18:03.28 and within four weeks it came back approved. 00:18:03.31\00:18:06.51 So that was just another conformation of that. 00:18:06.55\00:18:08.22 Another conformation. 00:18:08.25\00:18:09.75 And the Lord just view it was time to step forward. 00:18:09.78\00:18:11.95 Yeah, that's a scary thing to step out 00:18:11.99\00:18:14.49 and to think I'm totally dependent on the Lord 00:18:14.52\00:18:17.39 and the donations of other people 00:18:17.43\00:18:18.76 to support this ministry. 00:18:18.79\00:18:20.60 It is but at the same time it's the most comfortable, 00:18:20.63\00:18:24.40 safest place you can be as well. 00:18:24.43\00:18:26.17 Amen. 00:18:26.20\00:18:27.54 If you know that this is where the Lord is leading. 00:18:27.57\00:18:30.54 It grows your faith for sure. Yeah. 00:18:30.57\00:18:32.81 Yeah, that's for sure 'cause I'm thinking, 00:18:32.84\00:18:34.28 you know, you're man of the house, 00:18:34.31\00:18:35.74 you know, I'm for the two of us, 00:18:35.78\00:18:37.41 and that's a lot of responsibility 00:18:37.45\00:18:38.78 because you also have, 00:18:38.81\00:18:40.15 I got to take care of my family but like you said, 00:18:40.18\00:18:42.22 couldn't say it better, 00:18:42.25\00:18:43.59 it's most comfortable place to be in the will of God. 00:18:43.62\00:18:46.69 That's right. Amen. 00:18:46.72\00:18:48.06 So how has that journey been? 00:18:48.09\00:18:50.23 Oh, we've been doing this full-time now... 00:18:50.26\00:18:52.36 For about a year? Almost a year. 00:18:52.39\00:18:55.63 And we stayed busy 00:18:55.66\00:18:57.50 so praise the Lord for that... 00:18:57.53\00:18:58.87 Amen. 00:18:58.90\00:19:00.24 So what does your ministry look like? 00:19:00.27\00:19:01.97 What does it entail, what projects, 00:19:02.00\00:19:03.47 I know you mentioned evangelism, 00:19:03.51\00:19:04.97 but there is also another initiative called Shine 00:19:05.01\00:19:07.68 you're involved in, right? 00:19:07.71\00:19:09.04 That's right. 00:19:09.08\00:19:10.41 This is something we're really excited about 00:19:10.45\00:19:11.91 as my wife and I were thinking about and talking about, 00:19:11.95\00:19:16.65 what is this ministry going to look like, 00:19:16.69\00:19:18.59 and of course praying and studying as well. 00:19:18.62\00:19:22.42 My wife has such a passion for children, 00:19:22.46\00:19:26.03 for her children, for other people's children, 00:19:26.06\00:19:27.86 for families. 00:19:27.90\00:19:29.23 Amen. 00:19:29.26\00:19:30.60 And we really started praying, Lord, show us 00:19:30.63\00:19:32.33 how our children can not just tag along behind us 00:19:32.37\00:19:36.54 as we go different places and do different things 00:19:36.57\00:19:38.94 in this ministry 00:19:38.97\00:19:40.31 but how can our children 00:19:40.34\00:19:41.74 actually be part of the ministry. 00:19:41.78\00:19:44.35 And so that is was kind of what fueled the idea for Shine. 00:19:44.38\00:19:49.98 That's important, I actually like that 00:19:50.02\00:19:51.35 because a lot of times children are considered to be taught of 00:19:51.39\00:19:53.66 as just tag along or leave them at home with someone else 00:19:53.69\00:19:56.52 but you're actually wanting to incorporate them 00:19:56.56\00:19:58.79 as part of your ministry, 00:19:58.83\00:20:00.50 but then make that a ministry in itself. 00:20:00.53\00:20:02.43 Absolutely and... It's great. 00:20:02.46\00:20:04.80 Also help other families 00:20:04.83\00:20:07.34 understand how this can be come a part of their lives, 00:20:07.37\00:20:09.54 whether they're in full-time "ministry" 00:20:09.57\00:20:11.71 or not, how do we get the entire family involved. 00:20:11.74\00:20:15.01 Amen. 00:20:15.04\00:20:16.38 Now we have a video of that, so let's go to that. 00:20:16.41\00:20:19.01 Is now a good time to go to? 00:20:19.05\00:20:20.38 Okay, let's go to that video here of Shine at this time. 00:20:20.42\00:20:22.88 Jesus loves me this I know 00:20:37.03\00:20:40.90 I want to tell the word so. 00:20:40.94\00:20:44.84 This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine 00:20:50.85\00:20:55.82 This little light of mine, 00:20:55.85\00:20:58.59 I'm gonna let it shine 00:20:58.62\00:21:01.29 This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine 00:21:01.32\00:21:05.79 Let it shine, let it shine, 00:21:05.83\00:21:08.43 let it shine 00:21:08.46\00:21:11.93 All around our neighborhood, I'm gonna let it shine 00:21:11.97\00:21:16.77 All around our neighborhood, 00:21:16.81\00:21:19.44 I'm gonna let it shine 00:21:19.47\00:21:22.24 All around our neighborhood, 00:21:22.28\00:21:24.85 I'm gonna let it shine Let it shine, let it shine 00:21:24.88\00:21:29.35 Let it shine 00:21:29.38\00:21:32.15 God has always had a remnant generation. 00:21:35.92\00:21:40.00 A generation of children 00:21:40.03\00:21:41.46 who would not be bought or sold. 00:21:41.50\00:21:43.93 Children who in their inmost souls 00:21:43.97\00:21:46.00 were true and honest. 00:21:46.03\00:21:48.70 Children who did not fear to call sin by its right name. 00:21:48.74\00:21:52.97 Children whose conscience was as true to duty 00:21:53.01\00:21:55.81 as the needle to the pole. 00:21:55.84\00:21:58.48 Children who stood for the right, 00:21:58.51\00:22:00.68 though the heavens may fall. 00:22:00.72\00:22:03.15 Today in the time of the end, 00:22:03.18\00:22:06.02 God will again have a remnant generation 00:22:06.05\00:22:09.62 that shines as the brightness of the firmament, 00:22:09.66\00:22:12.93 and turns many to righteousness. 00:22:12.96\00:22:16.16 Pathway to Paradise Ministries presents Shine. 00:22:25.57\00:22:29.44 A family camp meeting, spiritual retreat 00:22:29.48\00:22:32.58 and youth presented public evangelistic series, 00:22:32.61\00:22:36.18 combined in one life changing meet. 00:22:36.22\00:22:39.39 Activities include parenting seminars, 00:22:39.42\00:22:42.72 workshops on developing creative family worships, 00:22:42.76\00:22:46.39 training to teach children how to lead Bible studies, 00:22:46.43\00:22:49.93 and a public evangelistic series 00:22:49.96\00:22:52.37 presented entirely by children. 00:22:52.40\00:22:56.27 To learn more about Shine and to register your family, 00:22:56.30\00:22:59.47 visit www.shinekids.net. 00:22:59.51\00:23:04.08 That's www.shinekids.net. 00:23:04.11\00:23:08.55 Shine! 00:23:08.58\00:23:09.98 Incredible. Amen. 00:23:13.19\00:23:14.59 Wow, what an amazing ministry just Shine is. 00:23:14.62\00:23:18.26 So you got to tell us a little bit more about this 00:23:18.29\00:23:19.76 because I can see people at home. 00:23:19.79\00:23:21.80 I mean if we had children too, I know we would want to be 00:23:21.83\00:23:23.23 involved in this. 00:23:23.26\00:23:24.60 But you're saying, wow, I want to get involved, 00:23:24.63\00:23:26.37 tell me more about that, I know you had a website, 00:23:26.40\00:23:28.64 you may want to repeat that. 00:23:28.67\00:23:30.01 We're going to give an address roll here 00:23:30.04\00:23:31.37 at the very end of this program, 00:23:31.41\00:23:32.74 so get your pencil and pen out and a piece of paper, 00:23:32.77\00:23:35.74 but tell us a little bit more about Shine 00:23:35.78\00:23:37.31 'cause I know this is a very exciting aspect 00:23:37.35\00:23:39.31 of Pathway to Paradise. 00:23:39.35\00:23:40.68 Certainly. 00:23:40.72\00:23:42.68 This is going to kind of be a cross 00:23:42.72\00:23:44.39 between a family camp or summer family camp. 00:23:44.42\00:23:46.79 Okay. And a family camp meeting. 00:23:46.82\00:23:49.76 And so I'm saying it will be 00:23:49.79\00:23:52.59 'cause we've never done it before. 00:23:52.63\00:23:54.30 The first time will be next summer, 00:23:54.33\00:23:55.76 summer of 2017 will be at Fletcher Academy, 00:23:55.80\00:23:59.00 in Fletcher in North Carolina. 00:23:59.03\00:24:00.77 You already have it booked then? 00:24:00.80\00:24:02.14 We do. Okay. 00:24:02.17\00:24:03.51 And we're going to be partnering with the academy 00:24:03.54\00:24:05.74 and also the Henderson Will Seventh-day Adventist. 00:24:05.77\00:24:08.24 I see that June 26 to July 1st. 00:24:08.28\00:24:10.45 That's right. Okay. 00:24:10.48\00:24:11.81 Those are the dates and the website 00:24:11.85\00:24:13.18 again shinekids.net. 00:24:13.21\00:24:14.88 There is a lot more information 00:24:14.92\00:24:16.25 than we'll have time to go over here. 00:24:16.28\00:24:18.05 Sure, so basically if they want to sign up, 00:24:18.09\00:24:19.92 I'm sure you have to sign up right? 00:24:19.95\00:24:21.46 It's not just show up, you need to register. 00:24:21.49\00:24:24.26 That's correct. 00:24:24.29\00:24:25.63 Okay, so in order to do that, go to website which is... 00:24:25.66\00:24:27.66 Shinekids.net. Shinekids.net. 00:24:27.70\00:24:30.33 Okay. That's right. 00:24:30.37\00:24:32.43 I want to read a short statement, 00:24:32.47\00:24:34.07 this is from Testimonies to the Church, 00:24:34.10\00:24:36.07 volume 6, page 202, 00:24:36.10\00:24:38.71 "In the last days children's voices 00:24:38.74\00:24:40.58 will be raised to give the last message 00:24:40.61\00:24:42.61 of warning to a perishing world. 00:24:42.64\00:24:44.95 When heavenly intelligences see that men are 00:24:44.98\00:24:47.12 no longer permitted to present the truth, 00:24:47.15\00:24:49.78 the Spirit of God will come upon the children, 00:24:49.82\00:24:52.59 and they will do a work in the proclamation of the truth 00:24:52.62\00:24:55.12 which the older workers cannot do, 00:24:55.16\00:24:57.63 because their way will be hedged up.' 00:24:57.66\00:24:59.69 ' It's interesting when we look at the history of 00:25:01.76\00:25:03.70 the reformation in Scandinavia, 00:25:03.73\00:25:05.87 if you read the book The Great Controversy, 00:25:05.90\00:25:08.50 God did this at that time as well, 00:25:08.54\00:25:10.51 he moved upon the children 00:25:10.54\00:25:12.47 and he gave the message through them. 00:25:12.51\00:25:15.98 And we understand and we believe that 00:25:16.01\00:25:18.48 the same thing is going to be happening again in the future. 00:25:18.51\00:25:20.78 Yeah. 00:25:20.82\00:25:22.15 And so Shine is really our humble attempt to inspire 00:25:22.18\00:25:28.46 and help equip families, so that they can raise 00:25:28.49\00:25:31.26 their children in such a way 00:25:31.29\00:25:32.63 that the Lord can use their kids 00:25:32.66\00:25:34.86 in part of this final message. 00:25:34.90\00:25:36.60 Oh, that's exciting. Praise God. 00:25:36.63\00:25:39.90 So the focus of the week is spiritual. 00:25:39.93\00:25:43.07 There is some recreation in different family activities, 00:25:43.10\00:25:46.07 but it's not like a summer camp in a sense, you know, 00:25:46.11\00:25:48.21 there is not horseback riding and water skiing, 00:25:48.24\00:25:50.55 those are great activities 00:25:50.58\00:25:52.38 but the focus here is on the spiritual, 00:25:52.41\00:25:56.28 and want to really give families opportunity 00:25:56.32\00:25:59.39 to practice evangelizing with all members of the family 00:25:59.42\00:26:05.29 in different ways. 00:26:05.33\00:26:06.96 So during the week there is parenting seminars, 00:26:07.00\00:26:09.36 there is practice for the children 00:26:09.40\00:26:12.20 and their role which 00:26:12.23\00:26:13.57 I'll explain more in just a minute. 00:26:13.60\00:26:14.94 Okay. 00:26:14.97\00:26:16.30 There is opportunities for door-to-door work, 00:26:16.34\00:26:18.34 the whole family can go out together. 00:26:18.37\00:26:20.11 Oh, I like that. 00:26:20.14\00:26:22.24 So the families are going to experience 00:26:22.28\00:26:23.61 this week together as a family. 00:26:23.65\00:26:25.95 Okay. 00:26:25.98\00:26:27.32 It's really evangelism, it's outreach, it's training, 00:26:27.35\00:26:30.65 that's exciting. 00:26:30.69\00:26:32.02 So when they go out door-to-door they would be 00:26:32.05\00:26:35.02 like selling books or we talking like 00:26:35.06\00:26:37.36 taking Bible study interest or praying with people, 00:26:37.39\00:26:40.00 or what does that look like? 00:26:40.03\00:26:41.93 Well, we're going to work with the local church. 00:26:41.96\00:26:43.30 And we're going to, you know, 00:26:43.33\00:26:45.30 ask how can we help you the most, 00:26:45.33\00:26:46.67 what do you see your needs are in the community 00:26:46.70\00:26:48.97 and we'll certainly be passing out literature, 00:26:49.00\00:26:51.21 inviting people to the public meetings 00:26:51.24\00:26:53.68 at the end of the week. 00:26:53.71\00:26:55.04 Okay. 00:26:55.08\00:26:56.91 And maybe I'll talk about that, add a little bit 00:26:56.95\00:26:59.38 'cause that's really kind of 00:26:59.41\00:27:01.32 the unique highlight of the series or the program. 00:27:01.35\00:27:05.99 Friday night, and then Sabbath morning, 00:27:06.02\00:27:08.32 and then Sabbath afternoon, so three programs. 00:27:08.36\00:27:12.09 The public would be invited in to the local church there, 00:27:12.13\00:27:15.90 and the kids are going to present 00:27:15.93\00:27:18.80 the entire presentation. 00:27:18.83\00:27:20.67 Wow. 00:27:20.70\00:27:22.04 So they'll do the preaching, they'll do the special music, 00:27:22.07\00:27:25.04 they'll do the greeting, and a scripture and prayer. 00:27:25.07\00:27:27.64 Amen. 00:27:27.68\00:27:29.34 We're hoping that they can help run some of the audio 00:27:29.38\00:27:32.25 and video as well, 00:27:32.28\00:27:33.88 just every aspect of that outreach 00:27:33.92\00:27:36.48 will be presented by the children. 00:27:36.52\00:27:39.02 As a way to help them we realize, 00:27:39.05\00:27:40.92 hey, this is a way that I can get involved 00:27:40.96\00:27:44.86 and they can do some of these things. 00:27:44.89\00:27:47.66 I think a lot of kids have a passion to share 00:27:47.70\00:27:50.53 and they need the opportunity to do that. 00:27:50.57\00:27:52.87 Yeah, sometimes as adult, 00:27:52.90\00:27:54.24 I think we can sort of stymie that, 00:27:54.27\00:27:56.17 well, you're not quite grown up enough, 00:27:56.20\00:27:57.77 but here they're given the opportunity to. 00:27:57.81\00:27:59.57 I have a question. 00:27:59.61\00:28:00.94 So the camp is about one week in length, 00:28:00.98\00:28:03.71 and so the closing weekend by Friday night you said 00:28:03.75\00:28:06.58 and then Sabbath 00:28:06.61\00:28:07.95 that young people are doing the services. 00:28:07.98\00:28:11.05 So are these young people in the months prior 00:28:11.09\00:28:13.39 getting ready for this whole series 00:28:13.42\00:28:15.42 or is this just one week of like okay, 00:28:15.46\00:28:17.76 here this what you're going to speak on 00:28:17.79\00:28:19.93 and they pretty much had to put this together 00:28:19.96\00:28:21.30 in one week's time. 00:28:21.33\00:28:22.66 Good question. 00:28:22.70\00:28:24.07 Registration actually closes May 15th 00:28:24.10\00:28:27.14 over a month before this starts and there is a reason for that, 00:28:27.17\00:28:30.34 that's because the kids need time to prepare. 00:28:30.37\00:28:33.78 Now when a family registers for this 00:28:33.81\00:28:37.28 and they say hey, we want to be part of this. 00:28:37.31\00:28:40.78 We don't... 00:28:40.82\00:28:42.15 Well, we're going to work with the family 00:28:42.18\00:28:44.19 and we're going to work with the children 00:28:44.22\00:28:46.65 to find the best role for them and what fits them best. 00:28:46.69\00:28:50.16 Trying to find their strengths and weaknesses maybe here... 00:28:50.19\00:28:53.50 And there are a lot of children 00:28:53.53\00:28:55.53 I know that don't want to get up front 00:28:55.56\00:28:57.27 and preach and that's great 00:28:57.30\00:28:58.63 because we need lots of other roles. 00:28:58.67\00:29:00.64 We need people to do prayer teams. 00:29:00.67\00:29:04.74 You know, if a child is good at art work, 00:29:04.77\00:29:07.28 we need some art for the PowerPoints 00:29:07.31\00:29:10.78 and different parts that we need art for 00:29:10.81\00:29:12.78 so we're going to do everything 00:29:12.81\00:29:14.45 we can to plug that kid into the best role 00:29:14.48\00:29:17.99 that fits them the best. 00:29:18.02\00:29:19.35 That's good because God calls all of us to ministry 00:29:19.39\00:29:21.49 but we all don't have the same gifts. 00:29:21.52\00:29:24.59 And when you mention the kids might be doing audio visual 00:29:24.63\00:29:27.40 or they might be greeting or that's wonderful 00:29:27.43\00:29:30.23 because some would be friendly and want to greet, 00:29:30.27\00:29:32.60 some want to get up and speak, 00:29:32.63\00:29:34.27 you know, have that burden and passion, 00:29:34.30\00:29:36.97 but God can use each one in that ministry. 00:29:37.01\00:29:39.34 That's powerful. 00:29:39.37\00:29:40.71 Now for those children 00:29:40.74\00:29:42.08 that are going to be doing the speaking, 00:29:42.11\00:29:43.81 it will be scripted for them so we'll give them a script. 00:29:43.85\00:29:47.15 So they don't have to create something. 00:29:47.18\00:29:48.75 Exactly. 00:29:48.78\00:29:50.12 We'll give them the PowerPoints to practice with. 00:29:50.15\00:29:52.55 And then those three or four days of the week itself 00:29:52.59\00:29:57.76 we're just putting the pieces together. 00:29:57.79\00:30:00.30 I'll go back to my music teaching experience. 00:30:00.33\00:30:03.67 You know, there is a reason music teachers 00:30:03.70\00:30:05.33 tell their students 00:30:05.37\00:30:06.70 you have to practice this before the concert. 00:30:06.74\00:30:08.10 That's right. 00:30:08.14\00:30:09.47 Those final rehearsals are just to fit everything into place, 00:30:09.50\00:30:12.14 it's not to learn your music so. 00:30:12.17\00:30:14.08 We're not learning the material during Shine itself, 00:30:14.11\00:30:17.31 we're just putting it all together. 00:30:17.35\00:30:20.05 Yeah, it sounds like an amazing week 00:30:20.08\00:30:21.55 so do you have a lot of slots or spaces for families to come, 00:30:21.58\00:30:24.89 is this like couple of hundred 00:30:24.92\00:30:26.25 or you're looking more of a small? 00:30:26.29\00:30:28.19 Yeah, what are you looking for? 00:30:28.22\00:30:29.56 Yeah, Fletcher Academy 00:30:29.59\00:30:31.53 has room to comfortably house 00:30:31.56\00:30:34.10 somewhere between 20 to 25 families. 00:30:34.13\00:30:36.40 Okay. 00:30:36.43\00:30:37.77 It's not that big 00:30:37.80\00:30:39.33 but it's big enough to have a good group there. 00:30:39.37\00:30:41.34 Amen. 00:30:41.37\00:30:42.70 So I want to encourage you then 00:30:42.74\00:30:44.07 because this is probably going to fill up really quick 00:30:44.11\00:30:46.68 so if you're interested, 00:30:46.71\00:30:48.04 I will start researching this 00:30:48.08\00:30:49.41 and I guess this probably maybe even contacting there, 00:30:49.44\00:30:51.51 they can email or phone number 00:30:51.55\00:30:52.91 that they can reach you guys at 00:30:52.95\00:30:54.55 and start finding out more about this 00:30:54.58\00:30:56.05 because this sounds really exciting 00:30:56.08\00:30:57.99 and it's not just... 00:30:58.02\00:30:59.35 It sounds like it's going to be fun 00:30:59.39\00:31:00.72 but it's also based on ministry 00:31:00.76\00:31:02.32 of reaching souls for Jesus Christ. 00:31:02.36\00:31:04.49 And, wow, what a way to inspire young people. 00:31:04.53\00:31:06.70 I know that mission trips 00:31:06.73\00:31:08.33 are very inspiring to young people, 00:31:08.36\00:31:09.73 so this is sort of like that 00:31:09.76\00:31:11.10 but it's right here in the States 00:31:11.13\00:31:12.47 and it's local evangelism too which is very exciting. 00:31:12.50\00:31:15.60 Praise the Lord for this project Shine 00:31:15.64\00:31:17.61 which is... 00:31:17.64\00:31:18.97 I'm going to say just 00:31:19.01\00:31:20.34 one aspect of Pathway to Paradise. 00:31:20.38\00:31:22.91 I know there's another part of Pathway to Paradise too 00:31:22.94\00:31:25.68 that we want to cover. 00:31:25.71\00:31:27.15 Oh, the thing that we've been doing 00:31:27.18\00:31:30.32 since we started is public evangelistic series 00:31:30.35\00:31:33.82 working with churches 00:31:33.86\00:31:36.29 and then weekend presentations as well. 00:31:36.32\00:31:40.76 And we have several different seminars 00:31:40.80\00:31:43.97 or weekend meetings that we can do. 00:31:44.00\00:31:47.74 One that I wanted to talk little bit about 00:31:47.77\00:31:49.60 is "Living in the Final Week". 00:31:49.64\00:31:52.27 There is a deep 00:31:52.31\00:31:54.41 and profound experience 00:31:54.44\00:31:58.48 that God wants with his people, 00:31:58.51\00:32:00.42 and actually it's not just that he wants it, 00:32:00.45\00:32:01.78 he actually promises that he will have it. 00:32:01.82\00:32:05.45 And that is best explained by a passage in Ephesians. 00:32:05.49\00:32:10.36 Let's go there. 00:32:10.39\00:32:12.16 Ephesians 5. 00:32:12.19\00:32:16.90 The Bible gives lots of analogies 00:32:16.93\00:32:19.47 for the relationship that God and Jesus want with the church, 00:32:19.50\00:32:23.77 and this is one of those. 00:32:23.81\00:32:25.14 It's the marriage relationship. Yes. 00:32:25.17\00:32:27.11 I'm just going to pick a few verses here 00:32:27.14\00:32:29.04 from Ephesians 5, 00:32:29.08\00:32:32.18 beginning with verse 23. 00:32:32.21\00:32:34.68 It kind of half way through the verse, 00:32:34.72\00:32:36.05 "Christ is head of the church, 00:32:36.08\00:32:38.02 and he is the Savior of the body." 00:32:38.05\00:32:41.29 And so this beautiful picture of Christ is the head, 00:32:41.32\00:32:44.96 the church is the body. 00:32:44.99\00:32:46.63 I often use the illustration 00:32:46.66\00:32:49.56 when I got married to my wife, 00:32:49.60\00:32:52.33 I did something that was really nice I thought, 00:32:52.37\00:32:54.67 I invited her to go on my honeymoon with me. 00:32:54.70\00:32:57.37 Amen, that's a good thing. That's right. 00:32:57.41\00:32:59.21 It worked out great. 00:32:59.24\00:33:01.04 You see know I did the same thing. 00:33:01.08\00:33:02.41 Oh, good, I'm glad you did. 00:33:02.44\00:33:04.51 And there is a reason we do that 00:33:04.55\00:33:06.11 and that's because we want to be with our partner. 00:33:06.15\00:33:08.75 Yeah, that's right. We want to be with our spouse. 00:33:08.78\00:33:10.59 We want to be with our husband or wife. 00:33:10.62\00:33:13.15 And Jesus wants the same thing with the church. 00:33:13.19\00:33:15.62 We can read a few verses later, 00:33:15.66\00:33:18.59 it even explains it in stronger language 00:33:18.63\00:33:21.70 looking now to Ephesians 5:30, 00:33:21.73\00:33:26.27 "For we are members of his body, 00:33:26.30\00:33:28.44 of his flesh, and of his bones." 00:33:28.47\00:33:31.14 It's that unity that he wants with us. 00:33:31.17\00:33:32.51 Yes. 00:33:32.54\00:33:33.88 And then, verse 31, 00:33:33.91\00:33:35.41 "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother 00:33:35.44\00:33:37.95 and shall be joined unto his wife, 00:33:37.98\00:33:40.22 and they two shall be one flesh." 00:33:40.25\00:33:44.02 And that concept 00:33:44.05\00:33:45.95 is something that has really grabbed me 00:33:45.99\00:33:49.79 as I've studied it and started to share it more. 00:33:49.82\00:33:53.50 And Jesus we know 00:33:53.53\00:33:55.60 wants to be united with the human race, 00:33:55.63\00:33:57.83 but it is deep and profound connection 00:33:57.87\00:34:01.64 that he wants with his church, 00:34:01.67\00:34:04.41 and Living in the Final Week explores this connection 00:34:04.44\00:34:08.38 from the angle of the life of Christ 00:34:08.41\00:34:10.91 and specifically the last week of his life. 00:34:10.95\00:34:13.31 And so that's why it's called Living in the Final Week. 00:34:13.35\00:34:15.18 Okay. 00:34:15.22\00:34:16.55 We look at the Final Week of his life 00:34:16.58\00:34:18.09 and as we go through it from night to night, 00:34:18.12\00:34:21.52 we see that the events that Jesus went through 00:34:21.56\00:34:24.26 and his disciples with him. 00:34:24.29\00:34:26.56 Those events were actually prophecies 00:34:26.59\00:34:28.76 of what would happen to the church 00:34:28.80\00:34:31.10 during the time period that the Bible calls 00:34:31.13\00:34:32.63 the time of the end. 00:34:32.67\00:34:34.00 Wow. 00:34:34.04\00:34:35.57 Seeing that connection and that correlation in there, 00:34:35.60\00:34:37.77 I'm just looking, 00:34:37.81\00:34:39.14 this is Living in the Final Week 00:34:39.17\00:34:42.04 walking with Jesus at the end of time. 00:34:42.08\00:34:43.78 This is the sample here of Bible prophecy seminar, 00:34:43.81\00:34:46.61 I see you have a graphic there, but if I open it up in here, 00:34:46.65\00:34:50.22 Tim, it talks about, this is powerful. 00:34:50.25\00:34:53.79 God exist from eternity 1 Timothy 117, origin of sin, 00:34:53.82\00:34:58.13 creation, death enters and it goes through the entire 00:34:58.16\00:35:01.83 all the way through history. 00:35:01.86\00:35:03.33 Yeah. 00:35:03.37\00:35:04.70 So this is a series of lessons 00:35:04.73\00:35:06.07 that you go through in your seminar? 00:35:06.10\00:35:07.74 Well, it's available as Bible study lessons 00:35:07.77\00:35:10.84 we just saw the picture that on the screen, 00:35:10.87\00:35:13.04 those are available in English and Spanish. 00:35:13.07\00:35:15.38 Ooh, nice. Great. 00:35:15.41\00:35:16.75 Both versions are there. 00:35:16.78\00:35:18.38 How many in the series? 00:35:18.41\00:35:19.91 Twenty three. Twenty three, okay. 00:35:19.95\00:35:21.45 So if we go to a church, 00:35:21.48\00:35:23.18 it's 23 presentations about four weeks for the full series, 00:35:23.22\00:35:27.82 now we can present it in a condensed way as well, 00:35:27.86\00:35:31.53 but... 00:35:31.56\00:35:33.13 And it correlates Jesus with the end time. 00:35:33.16\00:35:35.70 It does. 00:35:35.73\00:35:37.07 And everything he went through chronologically 00:35:37.10\00:35:40.80 when we look in history starting back in 1844 00:35:40.84\00:35:44.47 and moving all the way through the second coming, 00:35:44.51\00:35:46.57 everything Jesus went through was a prophecy 00:35:46.61\00:35:48.94 of something that his body would pass through 00:35:48.98\00:35:51.65 in that time period leading up to the second coming. 00:35:51.68\00:35:55.05 And the big overarching principle 00:35:55.08\00:35:56.69 is that whatever happens to the head 00:35:56.72\00:35:59.29 happens to the body... 00:35:59.32\00:36:00.66 Yeah. 00:36:00.69\00:36:02.02 Because they're united together. 00:36:02.06\00:36:03.39 And are connected in one flesh. 00:36:03.43\00:36:04.76 Wow, I'm looking at that prophetic gift 00:36:04.79\00:36:06.59 the test of faith as Luke 20 00:36:06.63\00:36:08.30 and then the prophetic gift given in Revelation 10. 00:36:08.33\00:36:11.03 That's right. Wow. 00:36:11.07\00:36:12.43 Parables of the judgment and the investigative judgment, 00:36:12.47\00:36:15.14 how that correlate together? 00:36:15.17\00:36:16.60 Like you dove, we have a couple minutes, 00:36:16.64\00:36:18.51 maybe we could look at one of these. 00:36:18.54\00:36:19.87 Yeah, let's do it. Let's do that. 00:36:19.91\00:36:21.24 Let's turn to Luke 19. 00:36:21.28\00:36:26.35 'Cause it always helps me to kind of see 00:36:28.55\00:36:30.29 what you're talking about, 00:36:30.32\00:36:31.65 like we can talk in technical terms, okay, 00:36:31.69\00:36:33.69 this correlates with this, that's great. 00:36:33.72\00:36:35.72 But if I actually see it from the Word of God 00:36:35.76\00:36:38.49 and experience it, that's a difference. 00:36:38.53\00:36:39.93 So you said Luke 19? 00:36:39.96\00:36:41.43 Luke 19, 00:36:41.46\00:36:43.57 and we're just going to start with those first events 00:36:43.60\00:36:45.97 that happened at the beginning of that final week of his life. 00:36:46.00\00:36:48.14 Yes, okay. 00:36:48.17\00:36:49.50 Which we know it began 00:36:49.54\00:36:50.87 with a triumphal entry into Jerusalem. 00:36:50.91\00:36:53.14 I'm going to read verse number 11, 00:36:53.17\00:36:55.08 this is Luke 19:11, 00:36:55.11\00:36:57.71 "And as they heard these things, 00:36:57.75\00:36:59.08 he added and spake a parable, 00:36:59.11\00:37:00.75 because he was nigh to Jerusalem, 00:37:00.78\00:37:03.25 and because they thought that the kingdom of God 00:37:03.28\00:37:05.39 should immediately appear. 00:37:05.42\00:37:09.46 You know, Jesus in those final days of his life, 00:37:09.49\00:37:11.79 he allowed a misunderstanding... 00:37:11.83\00:37:13.50 He did. To happen. 00:37:13.53\00:37:14.86 The disciples thought 00:37:14.90\00:37:16.23 he was going to ride into Jerusalem, 00:37:16.26\00:37:17.77 set up the kingdom of God on earth 00:37:17.80\00:37:19.83 and that they were going to be enjoying 00:37:19.87\00:37:23.00 their new positions in the kingdom very soon. 00:37:23.04\00:37:25.61 But we know that it didn't happen, 00:37:25.64\00:37:27.04 instead 00:37:27.08\00:37:29.88 there was a disappointment 00:37:29.91\00:37:31.25 for those disciples a few days later. 00:37:31.28\00:37:33.92 But if you look at the very next thing 00:37:33.95\00:37:35.55 that Luke tells us Jesus did, this is later in Luke 19, 00:37:35.58\00:37:39.99 instead of setting up his throne in verse 28, 00:37:40.02\00:37:44.76 we'll read about the triumphal entry there. 00:37:44.79\00:37:47.40 If you look at verse 45, 00:37:47.43\00:37:48.76 I'm sorry, it's verse 45 it says, 00:37:48.80\00:37:50.97 "He went into the temple 00:37:51.00\00:37:52.60 and began to cast out them that sold therein, 00:37:52.63\00:37:55.70 and them that bought, saying unto them, 00:37:55.74\00:37:57.54 "It is written, 'My house is a house of prayer, 00:37:57.57\00:37:59.51 ' but you have made it a 'den of thieves." 00:37:59.54\00:38:02.01 ' Instead of setting up his kingdom here on earth, 00:38:02.04\00:38:04.61 Jesus actually goes into the temple or the sanctuary. 00:38:04.65\00:38:08.15 Yes. And he cleanses. 00:38:08.18\00:38:09.52 Yes. Sure does. 00:38:09.55\00:38:11.05 And that has profound prophetic implications. 00:38:11.09\00:38:12.89 Oh, my, absolutely, it does. Yes. 00:38:12.92\00:38:16.06 We can trace this further the very next verse, 00:38:16.09\00:38:18.86 this is verse 47 says, 00:38:18.89\00:38:20.90 "He taught daily in the temple." 00:38:20.93\00:38:23.93 Well, that's kind of a passing comment 00:38:23.97\00:38:25.93 in the Book of Luke. 00:38:25.97\00:38:27.54 But Matthew actually tells us in great detail 00:38:27.57\00:38:30.81 what Jesus taught daily 00:38:30.84\00:38:32.41 during those last days of his life. 00:38:32.44\00:38:34.61 And we won't do it now 'cause we don't have time 00:38:34.64\00:38:36.78 but viewers can go to Matthew 21 through 25 00:38:36.81\00:38:43.02 and all of those chapters in the Book of Matthew 00:38:43.05\00:38:46.05 contain parables of the judgment. 00:38:46.09\00:38:48.72 Jesus spends the last week of his life 00:38:48.76\00:38:51.16 in the temple telling parables of the judgment. 00:38:51.19\00:38:54.43 Wow. 00:38:54.46\00:38:55.80 And again we understand from prophecy 00:38:55.83\00:38:57.53 the final judgment began... 00:38:57.57\00:38:59.10 Oh, yeah. In 1844. 00:38:59.13\00:39:00.47 When Jesus went into the temple in 1844. 00:39:00.50\00:39:02.47 Yes. 00:39:02.50\00:39:03.84 So that's just a little example of the parallels 00:39:03.87\00:39:07.11 that exist between the last weeks of Christ's life 00:39:07.14\00:39:10.21 and what his body experiences and goes through. 00:39:10.25\00:39:14.48 So this 23 part series if we want to call 00:39:14.52\00:39:18.29 that is actually talking about in the final week, 00:39:18.32\00:39:20.86 the entire 23 lessons? 00:39:20.89\00:39:23.73 Now, most of them, 00:39:23.76\00:39:25.09 there is a few as a beginning that lay the groundwork. 00:39:25.13\00:39:26.73 Sure. 00:39:26.76\00:39:28.10 But most of the lessons look at events 00:39:28.13\00:39:30.10 in the final week of his life. 00:39:30.13\00:39:31.47 So you teach the doctrines we could say, 00:39:31.50\00:39:34.10 as far as the Sabbath... 00:39:34.14\00:39:35.47 Absolutely. 00:39:35.50\00:39:36.84 And the sanctuary message 00:39:36.87\00:39:39.37 and what happens when we die and healthful living, 00:39:39.41\00:39:42.74 all of those from the perspective 00:39:42.78\00:39:44.55 of the final week? 00:39:44.58\00:39:45.91 That's right. 00:39:45.95\00:39:47.28 Let me give you one another example. 00:39:47.32\00:39:48.65 That's revolutionary. 00:39:48.68\00:39:50.02 I just somehow had not even grasp that in the... 00:39:50.05\00:39:51.72 I knew you did evangelism 00:39:51.75\00:39:53.09 but I just, that's revolutionary. 00:39:53.12\00:39:54.69 But you know, in Revelation 00:39:54.72\00:39:56.12 the very first verse of Revelation says, 00:39:56.16\00:39:58.06 this is the Revelation of... 00:39:58.09\00:39:59.66 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. 00:39:59.69\00:40:01.76 And so to understand all of these symbols, 00:40:01.80\00:40:05.80 you know, and there is a lot of confusing things 00:40:05.83\00:40:07.30 in the Book of Revelation, 00:40:07.34\00:40:08.67 you've got dragon, you've got beasts, 00:40:08.70\00:40:10.74 you've got scary things like the mark of beast. 00:40:10.77\00:40:14.81 And they are important, 00:40:14.84\00:40:16.18 if they weren't important 00:40:16.21\00:40:17.61 God wouldn't have put them in the Bible. 00:40:17.65\00:40:18.98 Yeah. That's right. 00:40:19.01\00:40:20.35 But we have to remember 00:40:20.38\00:40:21.72 that all of this is to reveal something greater 00:40:21.75\00:40:24.09 and that is Jesus Christ. 00:40:24.12\00:40:25.99 And so the prophecies of Revelation and Daniel 00:40:26.02\00:40:30.33 and other places in the Bible, 00:40:30.36\00:40:31.69 all of those reveal Jesus at the end of time, 00:40:31.73\00:40:36.13 and what it actually means to walk with him 00:40:36.16\00:40:38.70 at the end of time. 00:40:38.73\00:40:41.27 Give us an example? Yeah, another example. 00:40:41.30\00:40:42.64 Yeah, 'cause I need something concrete to think about it. 00:40:42.67\00:40:45.84 Let's go to the Gospel of John. Okay. 00:40:45.87\00:40:49.78 And we're going to look at chapter number 12. 00:40:49.81\00:40:51.71 This chapter describes his anointing at Bethany. 00:40:56.79\00:41:01.02 And then in verse 12 00:41:01.06\00:41:02.69 it continues with his triumphal entry. 00:41:02.72\00:41:05.96 So it's kind of an overview of the last week. 00:41:05.99\00:41:07.33 Yes. 00:41:07.36\00:41:08.70 But then it really focuses on a conversation 00:41:08.73\00:41:10.73 that Jesus has with the gentiles. 00:41:10.77\00:41:14.17 Some Greeks that came to visit him. 00:41:14.20\00:41:16.14 And what Jesus tells them is really important, 00:41:16.17\00:41:19.21 these are his last public words. 00:41:19.24\00:41:21.24 Okay. 00:41:21.28\00:41:22.61 This probably happened Thursday afternoon sometime. 00:41:22.64\00:41:25.21 The Bible doesn't say that 00:41:25.25\00:41:26.58 but it's the last public words of God 00:41:26.61\00:41:29.85 in the Gospel of John. 00:41:29.88\00:41:31.62 So what does Jesus say, if you look in verse 24, 00:41:31.65\00:41:35.52 one thing that Jesus says, you see it explains the gospel, 00:41:35.56\00:41:39.19 it says, "Except a corn of wheat fall 00:41:39.23\00:41:41.03 into the ground and die, it abides alone, 00:41:41.06\00:41:43.80 but if it die, it brings forth much fruit." 00:41:43.83\00:41:46.53 That's the gospel on a nutshell. 00:41:46.57\00:41:48.37 We're in a seed ring. Yeah. 00:41:48.40\00:41:50.07 That's true. 00:41:50.11\00:41:53.14 And then a few verses later, 00:41:53.17\00:41:55.98 this is verse 28, 00:41:56.01\00:41:58.15 Jesus says, "Father, glorify thy name." 00:41:58.18\00:42:02.25 So he's trying to direct praise to God, 00:42:02.28\00:42:04.95 so that the Father can be glorified. 00:42:04.99\00:42:07.16 Now if we look at verse 31, 00:42:07.19\00:42:09.09 Jesus says something else really interesting. 00:42:09.12\00:42:11.89 He says, "Now is the judgment of this world." 00:42:11.93\00:42:16.97 He's talking about a judgment that is happening in the world 00:42:17.00\00:42:20.47 at that time right then. 00:42:20.50\00:42:23.84 And then at the end of that chapter, 00:42:23.87\00:42:26.57 the very last thing that Jesus says, 00:42:26.61\00:42:30.78 this is verse 48, 00:42:30.81\00:42:32.41 he says, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not my words, 00:42:32.45\00:42:35.35 half one that judgeth him. 00:42:35.38\00:42:37.19 The word that I've spoken the same 00:42:37.22\00:42:38.95 shall judge him in the last day." 00:42:38.99\00:42:40.76 So he's directing people's attention 00:42:40.79\00:42:42.29 back to the Word of God. 00:42:42.32\00:42:43.66 He sure is. 00:42:43.69\00:42:45.03 In the very last verses I know 00:42:45.06\00:42:46.39 that his commandment is life everlasting. 00:42:46.43\00:42:50.23 These are the things Jesus talks about the gospel, 00:42:50.27\00:42:52.67 glorifying God, 00:42:52.70\00:42:54.14 a judgment that is happening at that time, 00:42:54.17\00:42:56.87 and then in urgent plea to order your life 00:42:56.91\00:43:00.78 according to the commandments of God. 00:43:00.81\00:43:02.81 Well, this is a very last message 00:43:02.84\00:43:04.31 that Revelation... 00:43:04.35\00:43:05.68 Revelation 14. Exactly. 00:43:05.71\00:43:07.18 The three angels' messages in Revelation 14. 00:43:07.22\00:43:08.55 I was thinking of that. Yeah. 00:43:08.58\00:43:10.52 Whatever the head has done, whatever happens to the head, 00:43:10.55\00:43:13.76 the body must do as well. 00:43:13.79\00:43:16.19 And so... 00:43:16.22\00:43:18.29 That's deep. 00:43:18.33\00:43:19.66 It's been our experience. You know, that's deep. 00:43:19.69\00:43:21.20 It's different than how we normally study the Bible. 00:43:21.23\00:43:24.23 You know, we think. 00:43:24.27\00:43:25.60 okay, I'm going to study and see what God has to show me 00:43:25.63\00:43:28.14 and that's a wonderful thing. 00:43:28.17\00:43:29.50 Or we think I'm going to study 00:43:29.54\00:43:31.17 and learn a deeper truth and that's great, 00:43:31.21\00:43:33.98 but this is revolutionary in how you look 00:43:34.01\00:43:36.81 at the final events of Jesus' life in the final week, 00:43:36.85\00:43:39.78 and how that correlates to us as the body 00:43:39.81\00:43:42.62 down at the end of time and that's powerful. 00:43:42.65\00:43:46.19 You know, it truly keeps Jesus at the center of prophecy. 00:43:46.22\00:43:48.32 It does. 00:43:48.36\00:43:49.69 And as we go through the subjects, 00:43:49.72\00:43:51.23 we look at all of the prophecies, 00:43:51.26\00:43:53.03 we look at all of the unique doctrines 00:43:53.06\00:43:56.63 you know, the pillars of faiths, 00:43:56.67\00:43:58.13 practical godliness, 00:43:58.17\00:43:59.60 it's all there in the life of Christ. 00:43:59.63\00:44:02.00 You know, he is the way, he is the truth. 00:44:02.04\00:44:05.14 He is the example that we have. Amen. 00:44:05.17\00:44:07.51 Ad so that's what we try to bring out 00:44:07.54\00:44:09.18 as we share this with churches 00:44:09.21\00:44:12.18 and with communities as well. 00:44:12.21\00:44:14.62 Amen. 00:44:14.65\00:44:15.98 So these are available, 00:44:16.02\00:44:17.35 this product is available like this, 00:44:17.39\00:44:19.25 I'm looking at this here Living the Final Week, 00:44:19.29\00:44:21.99 so all of these lessons are 23 part series 00:44:22.02\00:44:24.26 is available for people to order 00:44:24.29\00:44:26.06 and to like present themselves or how do you do that? 00:44:26.09\00:44:29.00 Yeah, they're available on our website 00:44:29.03\00:44:31.10 pathwaytoparadise.org. 00:44:31.13\00:44:34.30 And it's certainly free to share those 00:44:34.34\00:44:37.11 study them in their own small group. 00:44:37.14\00:44:40.04 We want this message out there 00:44:40.08\00:44:42.31 in whatever way it works best 00:44:42.34\00:44:43.68 but we're certainly happy to come 00:44:43.71\00:44:45.05 and either spend a weekend with the church 00:44:45.08\00:44:48.05 or you know whole month 00:44:48.08\00:44:49.68 if they want to share with the community. 00:44:49.72\00:44:51.05 Okay, so that's interesting 00:44:51.09\00:44:52.42 so it's actually 'cause you said 23, 00:44:52.45\00:44:53.79 so you actually want to come just for one weekend 00:44:53.82\00:44:56.32 and would you do just like amass all 23 or how it's... 00:44:56.36\00:44:59.69 Almost a knockdown version... 00:44:59.73\00:45:01.06 Bring your sleeping bags. See this sounds all stressful. 00:45:01.10\00:45:04.40 All night, so there is options 00:45:04.43\00:45:06.60 because you're actually willing if am I getting this right 00:45:06.63\00:45:08.74 that to go and actually present these at church for a weekend 00:45:08.77\00:45:13.64 or even you said four weeks. 00:45:13.68\00:45:15.11 So tell us a little bit about that in the last few minutes? 00:45:15.14\00:45:16.91 Yeah, if it's presented in a weekend 00:45:16.95\00:45:19.55 it's more of a revival... 00:45:19.58\00:45:21.08 Okay. 00:45:21.12\00:45:22.52 Seminar or series 00:45:22.55\00:45:24.29 and so there is a lot of the groundwork 00:45:24.32\00:45:26.52 that we would either pass quickly over 00:45:26.55\00:45:29.56 or maybe not need to do 00:45:29.59\00:45:31.23 if we're focusing on things 00:45:31.26\00:45:33.46 that hopefully they're already familiar by and large. 00:45:33.50\00:45:37.97 And we'll just, you know, focus on those aspects 00:45:38.00\00:45:40.94 that the church can benefit the most 00:45:40.97\00:45:43.07 from when we do it over three or four weeks seminar... 00:45:43.10\00:45:47.14 Yes. Oh, yeah. 00:45:47.18\00:45:48.51 You know, we move pretty slowly 00:45:48.54\00:45:49.88 and you have to build the building blocks. 00:45:49.91\00:45:52.18 And that would be more evangelistic in nature? 00:45:52.21\00:45:54.05 Correct. Okay. 00:45:54.08\00:45:56.15 So you said you've been busy. 00:45:56.18\00:45:57.75 We have been. Yeah. 00:45:57.79\00:45:59.12 Praise the Lord 'cause this is, 00:45:59.15\00:46:00.49 I want to say, it sort of brand new. 00:46:00.52\00:46:02.26 The last year you've been full-time. 00:46:02.29\00:46:04.16 How many years has it been since you first have that call 00:46:04.19\00:46:07.70 when the evangelist called and you went forward? 00:46:07.73\00:46:10.17 Little over eight years. Eight years. 00:46:10.20\00:46:12.00 So the Lord is patient and he brings, 00:46:12.03\00:46:15.80 you know, he's brought us step by step as well. 00:46:15.84\00:46:18.74 And I'm thankful for his patience. 00:46:18.77\00:46:21.14 Amen. Isn't that exciting? 00:46:21.18\00:46:22.68 It's just exciting to see 00:46:22.71\00:46:24.25 what God is doing in your life 00:46:24.28\00:46:25.78 and your wife Stacy and the family, 00:46:25.81\00:46:28.35 the ministry that God is growing. 00:46:28.38\00:46:30.25 And to me it's encouraging because God calls you, 00:46:30.29\00:46:33.05 God calls me, God calls each one of us into ministry, 00:46:33.09\00:46:37.06 so we want to encourage you, 00:46:37.09\00:46:38.46 whatever call he's put on your life. 00:46:38.49\00:46:41.40 Maybe you went forward when an evangelist called, 00:46:41.43\00:46:44.43 maybe you heard a sermon on the radio and you said, 00:46:44.47\00:46:46.53 yes, God, I want to step forward, 00:46:46.57\00:46:48.74 I want to do what you've called me to do. 00:46:48.77\00:46:51.01 We want to encourage you to get involved in ministry. 00:46:51.04\00:46:55.38 Whatever God has called you to do, 00:46:55.41\00:46:56.95 step out and to do that. 00:46:56.98\00:46:59.11 And what we want to do right now 00:46:59.15\00:47:00.48 is to put the address roll 00:47:00.52\00:47:03.45 for Tim and this ministry Pathway to Paradise Ministry, 00:47:03.49\00:47:06.96 it's a wonderful ministry. 00:47:06.99\00:47:08.59 If you want to get involved in Shine, 00:47:08.62\00:47:10.33 if you and your family, 00:47:10.36\00:47:12.13 your children want to come and come to Fletcher 00:47:12.16\00:47:14.70 this next summer and get involved in that. 00:47:14.73\00:47:17.13 If you want more information on the 23 part series 00:47:17.17\00:47:19.90 or you want them to come to your church, 00:47:19.93\00:47:22.07 your area for an extended evangelistic series 00:47:22.10\00:47:25.04 or possibly just a weekend, 00:47:25.07\00:47:26.94 here is how you can do just that. 00:47:26.98\00:47:31.35 If you would like to know more about this ministry 00:47:31.38\00:47:33.21 or how you can get 00:47:33.25\00:47:34.58 your children involved in Shine, 00:47:34.62\00:47:36.05 then you can write to Pathway to Paradise Ministries, 00:47:36.08\00:47:39.52 PO Box 23, Kingsville, Missouri, 64061. 00:47:39.55\00:47:44.93 That's Pathway to Paradise Ministries, 00:47:44.96\00:47:47.56 PO Box 23, Kingsville, Missouri, 64061. 00:47:47.60\00:47:53.03 You can visit them online for Bible answers, 00:47:53.07\00:47:55.47 newsletters and more at pathwaytoparadise.org. 00:47:55.50\00:47:59.64 That's pathwaytoparadise.org. 00:47:59.67\00:48:03.01 Or you can learn more about Shine at ShineKids.net. 00:48:03.04\00:48:07.62 That's ShineKids.net. 00:48:07.65\00:48:11.42 Excellent information and as always 00:48:15.62\00:48:17.63 if you fail to have a pen and paper ready, 00:48:17.66\00:48:20.20 you can always call 3ABN at 618-627-4651, 00:48:20.23\00:48:25.30 and they'll be happy to give you 00:48:25.33\00:48:27.24 Tim Rumsey's contact information 00:48:27.27\00:48:29.24 which is for the ministry of Pathway to Paradise, 00:48:29.27\00:48:32.37 and always it is a blessing isn't it 00:48:32.41\00:48:34.38 to have these ministries present 00:48:34.41\00:48:36.38 what God is doing through them, 00:48:36.41\00:48:38.11 and it's always an encouragement. 00:48:38.15\00:48:39.48 It is, it always encourages and blesses my heart, 00:48:39.51\00:48:41.48 and I know I've been blessed today 00:48:41.52\00:48:43.08 as a result of you sharing about the ministry 00:48:43.12\00:48:45.69 and how God encouraged you to step out by faith. 00:48:45.72\00:48:48.96 Now one thing we failed to mention 00:48:48.99\00:48:50.79 at the beginning of the program 00:48:50.83\00:48:52.16 and maybe we should have done this at the beginning 00:48:52.19\00:48:54.46 is you are an associate speaker 00:48:54.50\00:48:57.10 for White Horse Media. 00:48:57.13\00:48:59.23 That's right. 00:48:59.27\00:49:00.60 With Steve Wohlberg, 00:49:00.64\00:49:01.97 and something that you present an evangelistic series 00:49:02.00\00:49:04.01 we're airing right now. 00:49:04.04\00:49:05.74 That's right, 00:49:05.77\00:49:07.11 it's another series called Fire from Heaven. 00:49:07.14\00:49:10.48 And that is a four part video series, 00:49:10.51\00:49:13.65 they're 30 minutes each. 00:49:13.68\00:49:15.58 And it looks at the judgment of God 00:49:15.62\00:49:18.15 and the question how does God respond to sin. 00:49:18.19\00:49:21.92 Does he always respond in the same way? 00:49:21.96\00:49:24.43 Has he done it differently in the past? 00:49:24.46\00:49:27.20 Will he respond to sin and deal with it differently 00:49:27.23\00:49:30.37 at the end of time. 00:49:30.40\00:49:31.90 And so we look at kind of these big questions. 00:49:31.93\00:49:34.30 And the real focus of the series is to show 00:49:34.34\00:49:39.31 that God never changes. 00:49:39.34\00:49:40.68 Yes. Bible is very clear about that. 00:49:40.71\00:49:42.91 And so the way that God 00:49:42.94\00:49:44.28 has responded to sin in the past 00:49:44.31\00:49:46.31 and we start by looking at stories in Genesis. 00:49:46.35\00:49:49.65 And God always goes through a process of investigation. 00:49:49.68\00:49:53.69 Look at the story of Adam and Eve. 00:49:53.72\00:49:57.06 Why did he come and look for Adam and Eve 00:49:57.09\00:49:59.59 in the Garden of Eden that first evening? 00:49:59.63\00:50:02.56 He knew where they were, knew what they had done. 00:50:02.60\00:50:05.40 He didn't have to ask questions 00:50:05.43\00:50:07.47 but he goes through this process of investigation 00:50:07.50\00:50:10.67 not so that he can determine truth, 00:50:10.71\00:50:12.21 he already knows. 00:50:12.24\00:50:13.58 He does. Right. 00:50:13.61\00:50:14.94 But to give them an opportunity to confess... 00:50:14.98\00:50:17.48 Yes. 00:50:17.51\00:50:18.85 To repent and to understand and trust his character. 00:50:18.88\00:50:22.68 You can look at stories through the entire Bible 00:50:22.72\00:50:24.65 especially in Genesis 00:50:24.69\00:50:26.12 and God always does the same thing. 00:50:26.15\00:50:28.86 After Cain kills Abel... 00:50:28.89\00:50:30.59 I was just thinking of that. 00:50:30.63\00:50:31.96 He talks with Cain, he doesn't just kick him off. 00:50:31.99\00:50:36.20 He gives Cain a chance to confess 00:50:36.23\00:50:39.40 and we see the same thing with the Tower of Babel. 00:50:39.43\00:50:41.80 Yeah. 00:50:41.84\00:50:43.17 God looks, he investigates 00:50:43.20\00:50:45.07 before he confuses the languages 00:50:45.11\00:50:47.74 and a wonderful example is Sodom and Gomorrah. 00:50:47.78\00:50:51.18 He personally comes down 00:50:51.21\00:50:53.58 and spends time on the ground so to speak, 00:50:53.62\00:50:56.58 and he investigates to see 00:50:56.62\00:50:58.15 if the cry that has risen to heaven is accurate. 00:50:58.19\00:51:02.19 And what a picture of God, isn't it? 00:51:02.22\00:51:03.56 Yeah. 00:51:03.59\00:51:04.93 Yeah, love, care, concern. 00:51:04.96\00:51:06.70 Absolutely. 00:51:06.73\00:51:08.06 Beautiful, isn't it? 00:51:08.10\00:51:09.43 And to God you can trust. 00:51:09.46\00:51:10.80 And it makes you want to respond. 00:51:10.83\00:51:12.17 Yeah. 00:51:12.20\00:51:13.54 You know to have a God like that. 00:51:13.57\00:51:14.90 Well, that's powerful. 00:51:14.94\00:51:16.27 So in that series we just look at those examples 00:51:16.30\00:51:17.64 and a few others through the Bible 00:51:17.67\00:51:20.11 and then apply it to Revelation 00:51:20.14\00:51:22.41 and what Revelation tells us 00:51:22.44\00:51:24.11 is actually happening right now. 00:51:24.15\00:51:26.85 Amen. That's exciting. 00:51:26.88\00:51:28.22 Now that series, I know this program 00:51:28.25\00:51:29.75 that we're recording now 00:51:29.78\00:51:31.12 is going to air several different times 00:51:31.15\00:51:33.22 so it might not be, 00:51:33.25\00:51:34.59 Tim series might not be airing currently 00:51:34.62\00:51:36.36 when this program airs, we want to make that clear. 00:51:36.39\00:51:38.29 But that's wonderful, praise God 00:51:38.33\00:51:40.80 for what he's doing in your life 00:51:40.83\00:51:42.93 and your family's life and the work he has for you, 00:51:42.96\00:51:46.10 so we just praise the Lord for that. 00:51:46.13\00:51:48.27 It's very humbling. Yeah. 00:51:48.30\00:51:50.01 And exciting. Yeah. 00:51:50.04\00:51:51.77 It's neat to be involved in ministry isn't it, 00:51:51.81\00:51:53.27 and be involved in God's work. 00:51:53.31\00:51:55.04 And I know that, 00:51:55.08\00:51:56.61 I'm going to just go out on a limb here 00:51:56.64\00:51:58.15 'cause I'm sure it's true but you have no regrets, 00:51:58.18\00:52:00.22 do you for stepping out by faith? 00:52:00.25\00:52:02.12 Absolutely not. 00:52:02.15\00:52:03.65 And I know God is providing for you 00:52:03.69\00:52:05.89 and will continue to do so. 00:52:05.92\00:52:07.52 And again we provided that contact information, 00:52:07.56\00:52:10.13 I asked him, I said are you fully booked 00:52:10.16\00:52:11.59 for the next year and he says not quite, 00:52:11.63\00:52:13.13 so if you do have interest 00:52:13.16\00:52:14.60 in having him come to your church, 00:52:14.63\00:52:16.06 either for short weekend 00:52:16.10\00:52:17.93 or maybe even for a longer series. 00:52:17.97\00:52:19.63 Make sure you do that, 00:52:19.67\00:52:21.00 because God is moving on this young family 00:52:21.04\00:52:23.10 and it's neat to see them stepping out in faith. 00:52:23.14\00:52:27.01 We have a few closing thoughts in a couple of minutes 00:52:27.04\00:52:29.11 but before we get to that, 00:52:29.14\00:52:30.55 we want go to some important information. 00:52:30.58\00:52:33.85