Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Dick Nunez, Jay Sutliffe
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016068A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn, and we welcome you 01:08 once again to 3ABN Today. 01:11 We're having a wonderful day here at 3ABN 01:13 and we hope that you are having 01:16 an even better one. 01:18 First I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart, 01:20 of our hearts, I'm just speaking 01:22 for everyone here at 3ABN for your prayers 01:25 and your financial support of this ministry 01:27 because we wouldn't be able to do this without you, 01:31 so thank you so much. 01:33 And we're going to be talking today about 01:36 a brand new series that 3ABN is ready to launch. 01:40 And you're going to be excited about this. 01:43 Let me read the scripture, 01:44 you'll get an idea where we're going. 01:46 This scripture today is from 3 John. 01:48 Since there's only one chapter, I don't have to say the chapter 01:51 but it's verse 2, 01:54 and here is what the apostle of love writes. 01:57 "Beloved, I pray that you may prosper 02:00 in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers." 02:04 God is very interested, not only in our spiritual health 02:09 but in our physical health 02:11 and we have two gentlemen here with us today 02:14 who are experts on physical health, 02:17 and we're going to be launching 02:19 a new series called Optimize 4 Life. 02:23 Let me introduce our guests. 02:24 The first one I don't think, Dick Nunez, 02:26 that you need any introduction. 02:28 I think you're probably 02:29 one of the better known hosts on 3ABN, 02:33 'cause you host a very popular program Body and Spirit. 02:36 It's been a long time now. It has been. 02:38 How many years been have you done this? 02:39 I just started in 2000. 02:41 Wow, so that's been a long time. 02:43 And you know it's amazing how many people, 02:47 if we, we made the mistake once of changing the time slot, 02:51 just one on your program. 02:54 And there was absolute revolt. 02:57 So you've got a lot of people very interested 03:00 in that programming. 03:01 Dick, you were previously 03:04 with Black Hills Health and Education Center. 03:07 But now you've moved to Arizona... 03:09 I did. 03:10 And we're gonna talk about that more in a little bit 03:12 but you moved to be closer to your co-worker, 03:16 your cohort I guess and that is Dr. Jay Sutliffe. 03:20 Jay, we're so glad that you're here, 03:22 tell us just a little bit what is this Doctor, 03:26 this Ph.D that you have. 03:27 The Ph.D is in public help and so I'm a professor 03:30 at Northern Arizona University 03:32 and also a registered dietician. 03:34 So that, that's kind of a brief background, 03:37 nutrition and foods and also public health 03:39 which is little bit broader than just nutrition. 03:41 Okay, wonderful. 03:42 Well, we are very, very glad 03:44 to have you both here today and... 03:45 Oh, this new series is going to be... 03:49 I'll just let the cat out of the bag. 03:51 This is a lifestyle program that we'll be doing on 3ABN. 03:56 So this is the series that you want people to tune in 04:00 so that they can get great training, 04:03 good ideas for recipes and... 04:07 There will be a cooking segment. 04:09 There is going to be an exercise segment. 04:11 It's gonna be an exciting series 04:13 'cause not everybody can get away 04:16 to go to a lifestyle center. 04:18 But before we get into 04:20 all of the nuts and bolts of this, 04:22 we have our dear friend with us again today, Jaimie Jorge. 04:27 God has given him such an incredible talent 04:30 on the violin, and he is going to play for us 04:33 "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God." 08:07 The ever passionate Jaimie Jorge playing 08:10 for the glory of God, and we're so thankful 08:13 that we have great talent in the church 08:16 and that these individuals use the gift 08:18 that God has given them to bring the glory back to him. 08:22 Well, if you're just joining us today, 08:24 we have with us Dick Nunez and Dr. Jay Sutliffe. 08:28 And, Dick, you are a certified trainer, 08:31 what would you... What is your... 08:33 Master trainer? What is your credentials? 08:36 Well I'm really is an elite trainer, 08:37 I'm also a field professor 08:39 for the International Sports Sciences Association, 08:41 certified fitness trainer, 08:43 fitness therapist, specialist in adaptive fitness, 08:45 specialist in senior fitness, 08:47 and specialist in sports performance nutrition. 08:50 So it's easy to say that you know what to do. 08:54 Hopefully after 40 years I figured some now. 08:57 And then we also have with us Dr. Jay Sutliffe who is, 09:01 as his Ph.D in public health and is certified 09:06 not nutritionist as what you call it... 09:07 Registered dietician. Registered dietician. 09:09 Yep. Okay. 09:10 So gentlemen, let's just kind of start at the beginning here. 09:16 How did you all first meet and what gave you 09:20 'cause you actually brought us this idea, we didn't. 09:23 Usually we're approach people and asking, 09:25 "would you be interested in doing a program 09:27 as such and such." 09:29 But Dick actually called us 09:30 and said, "Hey, we've got an idea 09:33 for an exciting new series." 09:35 Tell us little bit about what this series will be? 09:38 And then let's go to the beginning, 09:39 how you met? 09:41 Well, we kind of tied in. 09:42 We met at the Black Hills Health and Educational Center. 09:44 Actually, Jay started working there. 09:47 We'd already met, you were doing 09:48 some work in Hot Springs. 09:50 And then we started working together there 09:52 and worked there for a few years. 09:55 The wellness program transforms lives. 09:59 A lot of people can't afford it. 10:01 And so, Jay and I found throughout our years 10:04 that we played off each other extremely well. 10:08 And we can just kind of go, take it away Jay, 10:11 take it away Dick 10:13 and we would do lectures together 10:15 and we just clicked. 10:17 And once upon a time Jay said, 10:20 "Why don't we do something for 3ABN?" 10:21 I said, "They're not looking for a new comedy Jay." 10:25 'Cause we really, we get, we get going, 10:28 and we get laughing and we've a good time. 10:30 But we thought, even way back then, 10:33 it will be great to have some type of program 10:35 that people who can't afford to go 10:38 to a wellness types of program 10:39 can still get the educational aspect 10:41 and get a step by step approach 10:43 on how to change your lifestyle and we move forward. 10:45 Okay. 10:47 How many programs will be in this series? 10:52 Well, we're gonna do start with 13 10:54 but we can take it as far as you want. 10:56 I mean 'cause when we were at the Black Hills, 10:58 I'd lecture, he would lecture, the doctor would lecture, 11:01 so there are so many different components of health, 11:03 and it's such a broad topic 11:05 that we can spend a lot of time on it. 11:07 So we can easily put together, I don't know, 11:09 52 week series if we wanted to. 11:11 We will plan on season 2, 3 and 4. 11:15 Jay, when somebody who doesn't know much about health, 11:21 will they be able to watch this series 11:24 and kind of start, 11:26 as if they were going to in lifestyle center. 11:28 Well, will this be instructional? 11:30 Tell us a little bit about the format of the program 11:33 and what benefit this is gonna bring to our viewers? 11:37 Okay, that's a great question 'cause I don't know about Dick, 11:41 but I didn't grow up in a real, with these health principles 11:43 that we're gonna present, 11:45 and so that's the thing that 11:46 Dick and I have never losses that idea of 11:49 if somebody has never heard of this before 11:50 or where they are coming from 11:52 confusing information in society, 11:54 how do you sort through it. 11:55 We work more from a principle standpoint 11:57 so you can adapt it to your life 11:59 'cause lot of times people 12:00 will come up to Dick or I and say, 12:02 put me on a program. 12:03 Well, that be my program. 12:05 I don't know your lifestyle, your likes, dislikes. 12:08 And when I focus on foods, somebody says, 12:09 "Well, I don't like broccoli 12:11 or I don't like kale or something." 12:12 Fine, eat something different. 12:14 And so, we'd like to organize things into principles 12:19 and let people apply that to their lifestyle. 12:21 Wonderful.. 12:23 And so we'd be bringing it out a step at a time 12:24 and adapt it to however you want them, 12:27 like Body and Spirit was. 12:28 If you can't do with dumbbells, do with the towel, 12:31 do with your body weight. 12:32 Right. So, yeah, it will be. 12:34 And then if somebody is more advanced, 12:35 they will be able to jump in 12:36 and say "I can take that principle 12:38 and apply it to my life." 12:39 I like that. Yeah. 12:40 So what is the program format? 12:42 The program format is, 12:43 we're gonna start out talking about, 12:45 basically, we gonna take 12:46 more of a system's approach to the body. 12:48 And I understand that's the way they teach med school 12:50 and a lot of premed people. 12:52 Now, you take a system of the body, 12:54 not losing the concept of the overall, 12:56 entire being of a person 12:59 and so we'll give a little anatomy in physiology, 13:01 Dick has extensive background in that. 13:03 And then we'll go into how you can apply that 13:05 in your exercise routine, your mental regime 13:08 and how you start your day, 13:10 how you do that with food, how you navigate grocery, 13:13 shopping and things like that. 13:14 And then pull it together at the end like 13:16 what are the essential components 13:17 that I can plug into and we're gonna release it. 13:19 You know, week at a time, so try this for the first week, 13:22 and then add this next week to the first week. 13:25 And by the end of 13 weeks, it should be 13:26 a total transformation in a lifestyle 13:28 or if people just need a little tweaking, 13:31 they'll get the tweak. 13:32 Yes, yes. 13:33 So, you said you didn't grow, how did you grow up? 13:35 I grew up in mid western town, Grand Forks, North Dakota. 13:39 So I've a little bit of a... 13:40 People ask me, "Are you're from Canada?" 13:42 And I say, "Well, little bit south of there." 13:44 So in North Dakota I grew up in a typical mid western home 13:48 where we eat a lot of white bread 13:49 and we ate a lot of... 13:51 Drink a lot of milk and different things like that. 13:53 So I grew up playing sports, and very athletic, out hunting, 13:56 fishing, very active in things like that. 13:59 Grew up in a religious home, where we went to church 14:01 and things like that. 14:03 And I went to CCDs and things like that. 14:05 So there was always those components 14:06 and I have a grandfather 14:08 who really pushed me to get education 14:10 'cause he wanted me to be more successful than him, okay. 14:14 He thought me work ethic. 14:16 My parents taught me work ethic and things like that. 14:19 So when I had to go to college, I just showed up at college 14:21 and said, "I'm here, I didn't know 14:23 what I was going to study" 14:25 but athletics brought me to college 14:27 and then I figured why I need take some classes 14:29 so I can be eligible to play. 14:31 And so, I just bumped into a scheduling of classes 14:34 and I thought, well, here is this nutrition thing, 14:37 maybe I'll take that and see if that has anything 14:39 to do with my athletic performance." 14:41 Because that was kind of infancy of sports nutrition... 14:45 So that's how I kind of got 14:46 into this whole scheme of things. 14:48 So it grabbed your attention obviously. 14:49 It did, yeah, it's right 'cause it fit my schedule. 14:52 Isn't it funny how... 14:54 And I'm sure that was God's providence for you. 14:57 But now how did you become 14:58 a Seventh-day Adventist Christian? 15:00 Well, while I was going to college 15:02 and playing hockey, 15:03 I also worked part time at a health club, 15:05 and at that time I was searching 15:07 in my own life, kind of thinking, 15:08 there is a kind of missing element. 15:10 And I was feeling, you know with my parents 15:12 kind of instilled in me the spiritual component 15:14 but I didn't really pursue that in a personal way. 15:17 But I felt a drawing, you know, 15:19 now I see it as the Lord calling me or drawing me, 15:22 but at the time I didn't know 15:24 what it was, so I went in search of, 15:26 you know, how do I figure this thing out, 15:27 there is something going out inside here. 15:29 And so I started reading the Bible 15:31 and fellowshipping with different people 15:34 that were more spiritual. 15:35 On college campuses, there's all kinds of things, 15:37 you know, you always think about 15:39 getting into the negative stuff, 15:40 but there is always those positive things too 15:42 and so I start searching out at work 15:44 where I was working, there was a new employee there 15:47 and we got talking 15:48 and she invited me to the church with her 15:50 'cause she found out I wasn't 15:51 really fellowshipping at a church. 15:55 And so she invited me with her 15:56 and she happened to be a Seventh-day Adventist. 15:58 So that kind of set me in line and I have to say this 16:02 that the thing that really hooked me 16:04 into my own personal faith 16:06 is the Sabbath school quarterly... 16:08 Amen. I just... 16:09 To this day, I read that everyday most, 16:14 you know, most of the time. 16:15 And so I... 16:16 That really drew me in and showed me 16:18 how to get into the scriptures and how to understand 16:20 and apply them to myself. 16:21 And for the viewers who are watching 16:23 who may not know what he is saying at this. 16:25 The Seventh-day Adventist church 16:26 puts out this quarterly studying 16:29 and it will be very focused on either an author of the Bible 16:34 and in his works or topical type thing. 16:37 And I heard it said, and actually Jim Gilley 16:40 used to say this all the time is that, 16:43 "He was told if you would just study 16:45 your Sabbath school quarterlies over a period of a few years, 16:48 you will have the equivalent of going to a seminary, 16:51 so it's, it is very, very helpful 16:55 for your development of your spiritual life 16:57 and try to understand to God's word, 16:58 so that's very good. 17:00 Now, Dick, you tell us little more about your move 17:05 because you have left the Dakotas, 17:11 now you're down there in Arizona. 17:14 And I know that your wife Lisa 17:16 will be on this program with you. 17:18 And she is going to be doing... 17:20 Is she the one that's doing the exercises? 17:22 She is gonna do the exercises. 17:24 You are so smart. 17:26 So you've got her, she will be doing 17:28 the exercise segment, but you all actually have, 17:32 did you move, when you moved did you start 17:34 your health club up down there? 17:36 Well, it's a tremendous miracle story, 17:38 'cause we were at the Black Hills 17:41 Health and Education Center getting along 17:42 with running our programming in Rapid City 17:44 called Fit-in-15 our personal training thing... 17:47 Can you say that slower, Fit-in-15? 17:50 Fit-in-15, right. 17:51 So you get fit in a 15 minute regimen. 17:53 Exactly, yeah we can put into him 17:56 in a very short period of time, 17:58 but what is happening is my business 18:01 was growing faster and I wasn't having enough time 18:05 to spend at Black Hills Health and Education Center 18:07 'cause I had only two days a week. 18:09 And Rich and Ronda Smith came in 18:12 and I lost the one little helper 18:14 I had at Fit-in-15 otherwise it was just Lisa and I. 18:17 And so I told Wealer, I said, I just don't have time, 18:20 Rich and Ronda here, I think I basically 18:23 was sent here to kind of keep it together 18:25 'cause I was at the center for a long time, 18:27 then I left for quite a few years, 18:28 then I came back again. 18:30 And so Rich and Ronda came in and they bought with them 18:32 Dr. John Kelly and now Hans Diehl is there, 18:37 going there, the Chips program is being embraced there... 18:40 I guess Dr. Diehl is looking to built the house 18:43 in the Black Hills... 18:45 So, I mean so, they are really doing great 18:47 and we are real thrilled for what's happening to them. 18:50 And so, God put me with the woman 18:53 who is obsessed with moving to Arizona, 18:55 and because I might not have ever done it otherwise 18:57 and so, we actually had our house on the market 18:59 for couple of years 19:01 and we didn't have it easy to sell our house. 19:03 And I said, "Lisa, 19:04 when the time comes God will move." 19:07 And so Jay and I were talking, we launched Optimize 4 life 19:11 with the idea that and then we're talking 19:13 about the fact in order for this to really work, 19:16 we need to be in closer proximity. 19:18 And so Lisa and I was searching all over the Arizona area, 19:23 all around Phoenix, Wickenburg, New River, 19:26 and we started moving up further close to Flagstaff, 19:28 but Flagstaff was still too cold 19:30 'cause he is at 7000 feet. 19:32 So we finally came upon Camp Verde 19:36 and when it got right down to it, 19:38 virtually at the perfect time we sold our house. 19:42 And so we came to Camp Verde to try and find something, 19:46 we put an offer on the house 19:47 but I didn't feel comfortable with it, 19:49 we got back to the Black Hills, 19:52 I went on Zillow and I found a house. 19:56 And Lisa was buying groceries 19:57 and she came back to her business, 19:59 I ran out and I said, "Lisa, you got to look at this house." 20:01 She looked at it, it was perfect. 20:03 It came on the market the day we left. 20:05 And so I called the agent cancelled the other one, 20:07 let's buy this one. 20:09 So we called our eleventh our miracle house. 20:12 And so we came to Camp Verde but originally we were going 20:15 to sell our business from Rapid City. 20:16 We have two different people who want to buy it. 20:18 When we came to Camp Verde, we found the place, 20:20 we go, this would be perfect. 20:22 So then we started thinking, well, maybe God wants us 20:24 to bring our business to Camp Verde. 20:27 And we did, and wow. 20:29 We're just blown away with the incredible ministry 20:33 that the God is giving us in health. 20:36 And even the mayor and the marshal 20:38 of the town over there, and I was talking to the mayor, 20:41 and we were talking about how God brought us here. 20:43 Some people ask you, 20:44 "What brought you to Camp Verde?" 20:46 I said God. That's the short version. 20:47 If you want longer version, I can tell you 20:48 the longer version of it. 20:50 But I told the mayor that that's what brought us here 20:52 and he goes, I have a similar story 20:55 because I was sitting there criticizing Camp Verde, 20:58 and then he said, God said to me, 21:01 "Jonah, get out of my native bush." 21:04 And then he realized that I'm just sitting 21:06 and complaining about the people 21:08 that I could be helping and so, 21:10 and so just story after story like that 21:12 and people talking about, 21:14 we're still thankful God brought you here, 21:16 you know, people who have been hurting, 21:18 people would have given up hope. 21:19 We had a... 21:21 We had one woman with fibromyalgia and mold, 21:22 and she had... 21:24 The thing you get from tics Lyme disease 21:27 and she was just a mess, bed ridden. 21:29 Now, she is up moving... 21:31 She and her husband were both going, 21:33 we just praise the Lord that you're here. 21:35 But the nice thing is we're only 40 minutes away 21:37 door to door, and so we actually did this, 21:41 launch this Optimize 4 Life program in Camp Verde 21:46 to try it out to see how it's going. 21:48 People loved it... Okay. 21:49 And let's put the pause on for just a second 'cause... 21:52 Let me tell you one more thing. 21:53 Well hang on, no, no, I'm coming right back to you... 21:55 I just want you to explain something 21:57 because the new series is going to be called Optimize 4 Life, 22:01 but we've actually adopted a title of the program 22:06 that they are running, so that's what, 22:08 let's call what's on 3ABN this series, 22:12 but now explain the Optimize 4 Life program 22:15 that you are running? 22:16 Well, the Optimize 4 Life program 22:17 is what Jay was talking about, 22:19 we are taking systems of the body, 22:21 and we've taken a step-by-step approach. 22:22 But we also realized that once you give people education, 22:26 you have to also empower them with ability to move forward. 22:29 It's just like you can study the Bible, 22:31 but you still have to know how to apply to your life 22:33 and move forward. 22:35 And so that's what we are trying to do. 22:36 And so he hits it from the nutritional standpoint, 22:41 I hit it from the fitness standpoint 22:43 but yet we both have the ability 22:44 to overlap into each other's areas. 22:47 In fact after we did this series, 22:49 a lot of people were saying, "We knew he was smart 22:51 but we didn't know you knew anything except for exercise." 22:54 So when you said you did the series, 22:55 where did you do it? 22:57 We did in Camp Verde, we did our Fit-in-15 there. 23:00 And we just didn't even advertised 23:01 really except put a little sign up 23:03 and people were coming and they were just excited. 23:07 Jay, you see there's the massive potential 23:09 you follow up if you want to 'cause people were just, 23:12 they were just clamming for more information, 23:14 they look so excited. 23:15 One of our client said, "I could have sat down 23:17 and listen to your guys all day." 23:18 Because again we just play off each other very nicely 23:21 and they like the information they're hearing, 23:22 but we want to take it another step 23:24 and that's why taking people step by step 23:26 of how to implement exercise into the life. 23:29 How to change your dietary pattern, 23:31 you know where to start eating, where to go with that. 23:33 So people can go, okay I can do this. 23:35 It's not overwhelming, 23:37 it's not like taking it from 0-50, 23:40 I can start out gradually and put my way up 23:42 to what you're talking about. 23:43 And, you know, I think that's... 23:45 I love that aspect of it because now going 23:48 to the Black Hills can be life changing 23:50 and I know that, we went there, my husband had had, 23:54 JD had septicemia and he had surgery on his knees 23:59 and he was just barely walking when he got there in, 24:03 and within 10 days he was like a new man. 24:05 So it is a life changing thing but you get so much at one time 24:10 that when you leave, 24:12 some of that just kind of filters through your mind. 24:15 What I love about the program the way you're going 24:17 to be doing it on 3ABN is you get this principle, 24:21 let's put this into practice. 24:23 Let's put this fitness principle, 24:25 this nutrition principle into practice this week, 24:29 then the following week, you're building on that, 24:32 so it gives people some time 24:34 to really get their legs under them if you will. 24:39 So are you all going to... 24:42 when you do this, lecture program 24:46 that you do outside of 3ABN, 24:49 do you have materials workbooks, 24:51 what do you have to, to help people? 24:53 Yeah, we are working on that right now. 24:55 We're gonna put together a manual, 24:57 our workbook that people can go through. 24:59 We also have a cookbook. 25:00 My wife and I've had two vegetarian restaurants 25:03 through our marriage. 25:05 We started out as business partners. 25:06 So we started out a restaurant, health food store. 25:09 And then we ran that for a while 25:10 and then we went to the Black Hills, 25:11 then we took over an existing restaurant, 25:13 health food stores, so we have years of experience 25:16 of dealing with people 25:17 who may have different palate... 25:19 And so we have restaurant tested recipes, 25:21 we're gonna put together in our manuals as well. 25:24 And so we can actually coach people through the process. 25:27 Now your wife Chloe that each one of the programs 25:31 on this new series Optimize 4 Life is, 25:37 has a cooking segment and your wife Chloe 25:39 does that cooking segment. 25:41 She is also very experienced in the nutrition field, right? 25:45 That's correct, and she deals more 25:47 from the food preparation standpoint, 25:49 doesn't really deal so much with the health, 25:51 so we kind of complement each other as well. 25:53 I do more of the scientific and that type of thing 25:56 and she does the application. 25:57 Where, I'm pretty good with the kitchen too 26:00 but we kind of leave that to her. 26:01 And then she puts it together and show some simple steps 26:05 that people can apply to their lifestyle. 26:08 You know, Jay, I married my business partner too. 26:10 Oh, that's just great. 26:11 Actually we dated for six months 26:13 and I told my mother, I wouldn't marry him 26:15 if he is the last man on earth 26:16 and you know what, she said oh-oh, that's the one. 26:19 And then we became business partners 26:21 about a year later, 26:23 we were partners for couple of years 26:24 before we married, so she was right. 26:26 Like to inject something Chloe actually taught 26:28 the cooking labs at the Black Hills 26:30 Health and Education Center for a while. 26:32 And she is a fantastic cook. 26:34 And one of the thing I want to interject about 26:35 what you talk about being at the center, 26:37 the thing with the center is we spoon feed you there... 26:41 We tell you when to get up, we tell you when to exercise. 26:43 Oh, boy, do you. 26:45 We tell you when to eat, what to eat. 26:47 You have no control of your life, 26:48 you know, this is when you have a massage, 26:50 this is when you have a hydrotherapy, 26:51 this is when you're exercising, but then when people leave, 26:55 then they have to do it on their own... 26:56 Right. 26:57 And unfortunately, and you know 26:59 this in human nature especially, 27:00 you know, spiritually somebody falls 27:03 or they fall back, they go well, 27:05 you know, I tried but... 27:08 And they start just slipping back further and further 27:10 into their old routine, and it's really sad 27:12 because you see people getting off all sorts of medications, 27:14 and so and so forth, they are now, 27:18 their blood sugar is no more, the blood pressure is normal. 27:20 They go back home, they go back to their old lifestyle 27:22 and on the whole that happens again. 27:24 So we're trying to help people avoid that 27:26 by taking up a step by step approach. 27:28 I'm really excited about this, but now you brought up 27:31 something interesting because blood sugar, 27:33 it seems, Jay, that more and more people 27:37 with whom I speak over the phone 27:39 or when we're out and meeting more and more people 27:43 are facing diabetes or they are pre-diabetic. 27:47 And I actually had a phone call 27:48 from my brother-in-law last night 27:51 and he is saying, hey I just got my 27:53 test results back on my blood work, 27:56 and he said, my doctor had said, 27:58 "This is it, you know, you moved over into diabetes." 28:01 So what would you tell someone who is watching right now, 28:05 if they just learned they are diabetic. 28:07 What kinds of food should they avoid, 28:09 what kind of foods should they perhaps be focusing on? 28:14 Interesting, the idea behind diabetes 28:17 is really we have never seen, 28:18 the lifestyles that we're living now in history, 28:21 and so what we're finding as people are using 28:23 more and more refined foods 28:25 and so are eating more and more processed foods. 28:27 If we can cut and back that off and start moving towards food 28:30 from nature as grown, straight from nature 28:33 and so we find that as we process the foods, 28:35 the body doesn't know 28:36 how to handle the load of calories 28:38 that we put in our bodies with the processed foods. 28:42 And I think one of the biggest culprit 28:44 is we're drinking a lot of liquid calories. 28:47 And so, when you see that onslaught of the foods 28:50 coming in a liquid form. 28:52 And when you say that, 28:53 we're talking about like soda pops, 28:55 well, that's an old fashioned thing for it. 28:58 But what do you call them, 28:59 soft drinks I guess, you know sodas. 29:02 But also it's not all, you know, 29:05 some people think if you're drinking fruit juice, 29:08 that you're just fine, but you're getting 29:09 a whole lot of calories without the fiber 29:11 and you're probably getting 29:13 a lot more calories in sugars than you think. 29:15 That's right, and I always find it interesting too 29:18 so that people switch over to Gatorade 29:19 because that's a sports drink. 29:21 And most people I see checking out at grocery stores 29:23 with their cases of sports drink, 29:25 don't look like they'd been 29:26 doing any sports any time recently. 29:29 And so really there is a activity component to that, 29:31 yeah, there is a place for liquid calories, 29:33 but it's not on ongoing daily basis 29:36 with too many concentrated calories is the idea. 29:39 And so the concept that we work with the nutrition is, 29:42 is a lot of times with investments, 29:43 and as we get closer to retirement 29:45 where I was looking for the return on investment 29:47 where we invest in things. 29:48 When you look at your food, 29:50 what kind of return and investment are you getting? 29:52 And so we always try to say, how many nutrients 29:54 are you getting per bit of food, 29:56 kind of the principle we work with. 29:57 And so you go back closer and closer to nature 30:00 and you eat the foods as grown, unprocessed, untouched by man, 30:03 so to speak in the processing. 30:05 And since the body will process those calories differently 30:09 than the processed calories in the body. 30:11 So you're saying, if you're eating green beans 30:13 straight from the garden, 30:14 you're gonna be getting a lot more nutrition 30:16 and it's going to be processed differently, 30:19 than if you're eating green beans out of the can, 30:21 or you going a little step further 30:23 where there is more processing. 30:24 The frozen and the can is fine... 30:26 Okay. 30:27 To an extent, but yeah, taking it right from nature, 30:29 if you don't have that available, 30:30 sometimes frozen is actually 30:32 just as nutritious as the fresh. 30:35 But when you take that and then process 30:36 that into other foods components. 30:39 What do you call soybean, atta edamame. 30:41 Yeah. Okay, it's interesting... 30:44 'Cause I can eat those and tolerate those, 30:46 but I'm extremely allergic to soy, 30:50 and if I eat processed soy, if I'm just eating tofu 30:54 or something like this, I'm a mess. 30:56 So even, even healthy things that have been highly processed 31:01 can create problems, is that correct? 31:03 Absolutely, in the sense, that's what we look at to 31:05 is you take that soybean right from the field 31:07 and you cook it and add edamame or however you do it. 31:11 And if you take it then and process 31:12 and making into tofu 31:14 and soymilk and things like that, 31:16 small amounts of those are probably fine, 31:18 but you're still better off getting the majority 31:20 of your food as grown. 31:21 Right. Okay, okay. 31:23 Well, it sounds like this is gonna be 31:24 an exciting program. 31:26 What... 31:28 Dick, kind of... 31:30 I know every one knows you but kind of let's back up 31:34 and maybe not everyone has heard your testimony 31:37 because you weren't always as healthy as you are today. 31:41 Tell us a little about 31:43 how you got interested in health. 31:47 Well, when I was growing up, I was six foot, 31:50 120 pounds at the age of 12. 31:53 And my diet was absolutely atrocious. 31:55 My mother go to the grocery store every week 31:58 and buy a one pound Hershey bar, 31:59 one pound of Nestle crunch bar, 32:01 and a bag of Trix cereal pops, and I'd eat it all on Friday. 32:04 I had to go to the dentist and I had 12 cavities, 32:07 and some of those cavities were so bad that later on life 32:10 you start to have secondary problems, 32:12 you have to get root canals and crowns and so and so forth. 32:15 And what you hear now, 32:16 isn't that good of a thing to do anyway. 32:18 So then as life went on, I got into high school 32:21 and I was a terrible eater. 32:22 Typical meal was pan cake with butter and syrup, 32:25 two fried eggs, two glasses of milk for breakfast, 32:27 jam sandwich and a white bread with butter, 32:29 two twinkies, two ding dongs 32:30 and two things of chocolate milk for lunch, 32:32 hamburger, French fries, and milk shake for dinner, 32:35 I had no healthy nutritional habits at all, 32:38 but yet I still weighed, you know 225, 235 32:40 and I was a senior in high school 32:42 and was bench pressing 365, 32:43 so I got strong beside the fact. 32:45 And then I got into college, 32:47 I got involved with body building 32:48 and I start eating three pounds a meat, 32:51 a gallon of milk, half dozen eggs every day, 32:53 10,000 calories a day, 32:55 eating seven times a day, it was a mess. 32:57 You know I was... 32:59 Your heart attacking waiting to happen, were it? 33:00 My cholesterol level was high, I had hypertension. 33:03 I started losing my hair, so many different things 33:06 were happening, my immune system was shot, 33:08 if I got hurt, I always have to worry about 33:10 secondary infection, I had a staph infection, 33:12 strep infection in my throat at the same time, 33:14 couldn't talk for two weeks, 33:16 but I was so quiet back then, I took a week by it now. 33:18 So my roommate find, he goes, you have a sore throat? 33:22 But as time went on, I got involved 33:24 with the Adventist church, 33:26 and then I started taking the next step, 33:30 you know, 'cause the health message is there. 33:32 unfortunately not everybody embraces 33:34 like we wish they would. 33:35 But I start listen to speakers like from Weimar, 33:39 Dr. Lee, Dr Dee, 33:40 and so many of this people had a lot to do 33:42 with bringing me forward 33:44 and then when Jay and I got together, 33:47 we kind of gone on this journey together, 33:48 even though we have been out together in a part, 33:51 but we kind of melted our thought processes. 33:55 we looked forward going 33:57 to this nutrient dense type diet. 33:59 And that's how I made, 34:00 you know, big transformation in my life, 34:02 when I starting focusing on the cleansing aspect 34:05 'cause I was running around at 270-280 pounds, 34:07 in fact a lot of previous Body and Spirit shows, 34:10 I'm much larger than I'm right now, 34:12 but I don't need to carry that weight especially at my age. 34:15 And I started eating this more nutrient dense food 34:18 and Lisa calls it my gorilla salad 34:20 because it's huge. 34:22 But I started eating that way 34:24 and you still maintain the strength 34:26 and the muscle size, 34:27 but yet the excess fluff is gone, 34:30 and you just feel amazing. 34:32 So it's been quite a journey. 34:34 And so the thing I tried to do 34:36 is use the blessings God has give me 34:38 because lot of times people think 34:39 if you become a total vegetarian diet 34:42 or what people use vegan, 34:44 that term people, they think you're gonna be emaciated, 34:46 think you will be very scrawny and so and so forth, 34:49 so I try and use what God has blessed me 34:51 with to show that, no, you can eat this diet 34:53 and still be muscular, you can still feel good, 34:56 and God impressed me several years ago 34:59 to get in the best shape of my life, 35:00 because he goes, I have something for you. 35:03 And I thought well, why didn't you asked me 35:05 to do this at 30, don't ask me to do at 60. 35:07 And it was like, well, 35:09 anybody can do at 30, do it at 60 35:10 and then you have something to talk about. 35:12 And so off we go. 35:14 You know, I will never forget, is it Dr, Blauer... 35:19 Dr Bee, yeah. Dr. Bea. 35:21 When we first came to Black Hills 35:24 Health and Education Center, 35:26 and what was Dr. Blauer then about 70... 35:29 75... 75... 35:31 I thought I was gonna say 74-75. 35:33 And here is the 75 year old man who goes up, 35:36 and as a demonstration, Dick calls him up 35:39 and he gets down on the floor 35:40 and he is doing all this one arm pushups 35:42 and he was just like you got to be kidding me. 35:46 So... Let me tell about Dr. Bea. 35:49 He started working out at 73... 35:52 And he was an ER doc and you said 35:55 he was in the shape of a 73 old flabby ER doc. 36:00 He can do two push-ups, no pull-ups, 36:02 had never really worked out. 36:04 By the time you met him two years later, 36:06 he could do 80 pushups, 20 pull-ups. 36:09 We actually had him working out for bench press competition 36:12 because in his age category 75 and above, 36:16 he was now bench pressing 185, and Dr. Bea is not a big man, 36:21 but we would have... 36:22 He would have been world class in the bench press. 36:25 When we came back to Rapid City and before I left, 36:28 Dr. Bea was still working out with this at the age of 83, 36:32 and still doing great. 36:33 Yeah, praise God. 36:34 Well, we'll just give a shout out to everybody 36:36 at Black Hills Health and Education especially, 36:38 Dr. Bea and his wife. 36:40 So this new series which is, if you're seeing this program, 36:44 you look, check for your schedule 36:46 because it will be in the schedule. 36:48 And it is... 36:50 Can you give us maybe like a little outline of topics 36:54 how are you doing for Optimize 4 Life? 36:58 Well, the first thing we're gonna do is talk about 37:00 how you can prepare because a lot of time 37:02 peoples are motivated to make a change, 37:05 and if they don't in the sense prepare for that, 37:08 there are some pitfalls. 37:10 We all know about getting in ditches, 37:11 and lot of time we go in unprepared, 37:13 so we'll talk about how to set up your kitchen, 37:15 how to set up your schedule 37:16 for fitness and things like that. 37:18 Then we'll go into a program 37:20 where we just talk about fitness. 37:22 Designing your own personalized fitness program 37:24 and then the next segment will be about 37:26 how to set up your own personalized nutrition program, 37:28 how to set your kitchen up. 37:30 What kind of appliances would you like to get. 37:33 What are the basics, and what are fluff machines 37:36 'cause we all have different juicers 37:38 and all this different things with the bare bones, 37:40 and then we start going into your sleep cycles, 37:42 and then we'll start looking at the musculoskeletal system, 37:45 the neurological system, and things like that, 37:47 but it's not gonna be high fluent words 37:50 and things like that, 37:52 it will be very, very practical. 37:53 Amen. Amen. 37:54 I'm really looking forward to this 'cause I'm sure, 37:56 I'm gonna learn something too. 37:58 I will tell you, you know you were talking about 38:00 soft drinks while ago. 38:02 I gave up soft drinks 13, 14 years ago I suppose, 38:07 actually before I came into the Adventist church, but... 38:12 It would have been 14 years, so 15 years ago 38:14 before I came into the Adventist church. 38:16 And you know, I was never a water drinker, 38:19 but once you... 38:21 All I do now is drink water with lemon, 38:22 and once you have made that change 38:25 you think, ah, ha, I like water. 38:27 But once you made that change, 38:29 your body craves and I cannot stand the taste, 38:32 maybe once a year I'll have a root beer, 38:34 but I don't like the taste of soft drinks, 38:36 they have a kind of a acrid kind of a taste to them. 38:41 But I was working on a sermon for the health message 38:46 sitting there with a bottle of water next to me 38:48 and I wasn't drinking it till somebody, 38:50 one of my dear friends 38:51 who is my water angel texted me and said "thirsty" 38:54 'cause she knows I'm hyper focus. 38:56 So we all need to be brought to a count is my point is that, 39:01 it doesn't matter how long you've been in the church 39:04 and heard the health message 39:05 or if you've never heard the health message. 39:07 As you said, Dick, not all of us are applying it 39:10 the way we should 39:12 and we are suffering because of it, right? 39:13 Correct, and the thing with pop, 39:15 is one glass of pop will take 32 glasses 39:18 of regular water to neutralize 39:20 the acidic effect of that pop... 39:21 Oh my goodness. 39:23 And so people think they're drinking that 39:24 to get fluids in our body or drinking coffee 39:27 or things like that and what they don't realize 39:30 is actually dehydrating themselves 39:32 creating a greater need for more healthy fluid. 39:35 Now I know you were dehydrating yourself with caffeine, 39:39 but are you saying that 39:40 when you say to get the acid out, 39:41 does it actually dehydrate you when you're drinking pop. 39:44 Well, it just takes more fluid 39:45 because, the body needs to be in a proper alkaline base... 39:48 So it's hurting your kidneys... 39:49 Oh, absolutely... It's hurting your organs. 39:51 Disease grows in an acidic state, 39:54 it doesn't grow on in alkaline state. 39:55 I always heard cancer grow in that... 39:57 And then, you know, people have a lot of yeast in their body, 39:59 they don't understand that. 40:01 And the thing yeast loves more than anything else is sugar 40:04 and if you're not giving it a refine sugar, 40:06 it can go after honey, maple syrup 40:10 and then even if you didn't given that 40:11 they can go after fruit 40:13 and especially like Jay was saying, 40:14 if you're taking a lot of fruit juices 40:16 the yeast can go okay, I will use that. 40:18 So we need to get the nutrient dense foods 40:20 to get the body more in a proper ph balance, 40:24 and that's what when Jay is talking about the kale 40:27 and this broccoli all those super foods, 40:29 that's what does it. 40:31 And then you get your body in proper ph balance 40:33 and then you go wow... 40:35 The body is... We all want to be well... 40:38 The body is the miracle. 40:39 We just have to set up the proper environment 40:42 to allow that miracle to happen. 40:43 We know I opened by saying that 40:45 God really wants us to be in good health, 40:48 and when you think about it, he is such a loving father 40:53 and he has given us instructions 40:54 just right here in the Bible. 40:57 What we can do to be healthier 41:00 and following his health plan is really... 41:04 God knew that if we're healthy we're gonna be happier, 41:07 we're gonna have a more fulfilling life. 41:09 So, Jay, who is your target audience for this new series, 41:14 it's gonna be on 3ABN Optimize for Life. 41:17 Well, the interesting thing is, this is can be applied 41:20 to basically anybody at any phase of their lifespan. 41:23 And interesting thing is in Flagstaff, Arizona 41:26 we've created a intervention team 41:29 of professionals in our area. 41:30 We're doing six week, nine week, 41:32 and 12 week interventions, and then we collect the data... 41:37 Okay, explain that just a little bit more, 41:39 you're doing six week, nine week... 41:41 We're doing a similar community interventions, 41:45 like we're doing for Optimize 4 Life. 41:48 And we're finding people from all walks of life, 41:50 whether they are in decade or their 20s, 30s 41:52 all the way up in their 60s, and 70s. 41:55 And it's interesting that when you see people transform 41:58 their lives by applying these principles 42:00 one at a time each week, they're just being transformed, 42:03 they're getting of medications under the supervision 42:06 of their physicians and things like that, 42:08 that's what motivating to Dick and I is that this blessing 42:11 that we've been giving through scripture, 42:14 and we call it the health message. 42:16 People look at it as optional, but we're are seeing people 42:19 from secular walks of life 42:21 that suddenly they're becoming alive, 42:23 their colors back in there life, 42:24 they're mentally processing 42:26 and they become spiritually awake. 42:29 And that's so we always think too that really 42:30 that this whole health message thing, message, 42:34 and I never really understood what the health message was 42:36 when I joined the Adventist church, 42:38 because I just thought was don't eat pork. 42:40 Okay, And I didn't really know it wasn't 42:42 until somebody gave me a book called 42:44 Counsels on Diet and Foods, 42:45 and I started saying, wow, I didn't learn that in college, 42:47 so I started applying it to my own life, 42:49 and I certainly realized that this is a gift of grace, 42:52 and so many people think it's so legalistic 42:54 and that you're being so particular 42:56 and you're working your way to heaven, 42:58 but when we take these principles 43:00 and we take them like we're doing 43:02 right now on Flagstaff to people in their work sites. 43:05 We're finding their productivity is better. 43:06 We're seeing a drop in depression, 43:08 and we're not evenly necessarily focusing 43:10 on this one at the time 43:11 and that's a neat thing about these principles. 43:13 You don't have to focus on this or focus on that 43:15 and focus on that. 43:16 It's a transformation of the entire being. 43:19 You know, it's funny that you said 43:20 how everyone can, 43:23 and science has caught up with what we know. 43:25 Absolutely. 43:26 I mean science everyday is proving the health message, 43:29 but when people think that it's legalistic, 43:31 I mean that's ridiculous, 43:32 because we know salvation is by grace, 43:34 we're not doing anything 43:36 to try to earn our way to heaven, we can't. 43:40 There is nothing that we can do that will save ourselves. 43:43 Salvation belongs to God, but he is our creator 43:48 and Paul says, hey, your body is not your own, 43:51 it belongs to the Lord, he's redeemed you, 43:53 bought you with a price. 43:55 And we should not defile with the temple of the spirit. 44:00 We're not supposed to defile this, 44:02 but God as the owner, if you ever have... 44:05 If you bought yourself a brand new Cadillac 44:07 and you went out, you would find 44:09 in the glove compartment, what? 44:11 An owner's manual. 44:13 And it will tell you what kind of oil, 44:14 what kind of gasoline. 44:16 So if you've got a gasoline car and you put diesel in it, 44:20 what's gonna happen? 44:21 Not gonna run really well, is it? 44:23 Well, this is kind of God has told us 44:25 what's good for us, 44:26 and science is now proving it out. 44:28 So we just have a few more minutes. 44:31 What do you think has been the most exciting thing 44:35 as you have prepared to the materials for this. 44:40 Did God gave you any ah-ha moments, 44:43 did you have any epiphanies 44:45 as you were preparing the materials for this program. 44:49 I guess the big thing for me is, 44:51 how easily it float once we tried 44:54 to put it into place, because we didn't scripted 44:58 and we haven't really talked about it. 44:59 And Jay had slides together, as PhD he does fabulous work, 45:04 and we were putting the slides up 45:06 and he gave me a preliminary 45:07 what it was going to be and then he changed them. 45:11 So he threw a slide up and I'm looking up as I go... 45:12 We don't call them slides anymore, Dick, 45:14 we call them graphics. 45:16 Whatever, I was looking at the graphic and I go, 45:18 wait a minute, I don't remember that 45:20 and after he goes, "Oh, I switched it in for you." 45:23 But still we were able to play off each other 45:25 and just works really nicely 45:26 and just the excitement of the people that heard it. 45:31 And of course, we had people young teens there, 45:34 we had senior citizens there, 45:36 we had just your basic baby boomers there. 45:38 We had everybody and they were all getting 45:41 something out of it, 45:42 and so and I think that was going to be exciting 45:44 when they see how this comes to life 45:46 because it isn't a legalistic message, 45:48 it's a message of love. 45:50 And when you talk about the Bible, 45:51 and Jay and I both know this 45:54 nutritional science changes all the time, 45:55 you know, what was popular now wasn't popular, 45:58 you know, it always changes. 46:00 You look at the physical principles in the Bible, 46:03 back from Genesis on through, it's all 100 percent accurate. 46:07 I mean God doesn't make mistakes. 46:09 So if you look at the Levitical law 46:11 and, "You can eat this, but don't eat that. 46:13 You better off if you just go back 46:15 to original diet found in the Garden of Eden. 46:17 And the more we can get people back to that original diet, 46:20 the healthier people gonna be. 46:22 Well, and we certainly have seen. 46:23 I mean I've seen people's lives been changed 46:27 by changing to this message. 46:29 Jay, for you as you, did God kind of renew 46:34 an interest in anything or rebuilt. 46:36 Absolutely, in our most recent intervention in Flagstaff, 46:40 we're applying these principles week by week there 46:43 and there's a lady there who came with her husband, 46:46 their employees of the hospital there 46:48 and we're doing it right in the hospital auditorium. 46:51 And she came in and she's been bipolar 46:53 for years on several medications 46:55 and we had an introduction were we did a six hour training 46:58 of what's gonna be happening and how this is gonna go. 47:00 We did a two, three hour segments. 47:03 And by the time we came back for the first week 47:04 where they were supposed to start applying it. 47:06 She'd already jumped in and started applying 47:09 the little bit of principles we had already given her 47:11 and she was, her countenance was different 47:13 and she was a total different person, 47:15 it's like she came out of a fog. 47:17 This is like five days, five days 47:20 and I thought, you know, 47:22 God's principles are true today. 47:24 And this is a message of grace and love to open up our minds 47:28 and our hearts to be restored back into his image. 47:31 I just... I'm so excited about this. 47:33 We've done that at the Black Hills 47:34 where we saw it in a lockdown situation 47:36 where people can really get well. 47:38 But we want to be out in the community 47:40 where people live in their own homes 47:42 and they apply these principles in their homes 47:45 and they transform them and they apply that 47:47 and we provide the support to keep doing it, 47:50 going along in this massive group of people 47:52 around the world, they're part of that. 47:54 You know we're so excited that we're going to be offering 47:58 this wonderful new series Optimize 4 Life. 48:02 And what I do want to say is that, 48:04 you know, going to a lifestyle center like 48:06 Black Hills or Eden Valley, it's very important. 48:09 It's critical for people who are in crisis, 48:13 you know, being spoon fed is the ideal 48:16 when you're in crisis, but this is going to be 48:18 something that's just taking it to a greater majority of people 48:23 who maybe cannot afford to go to a lifestyle center 48:28 or who cannot take the time off. 48:31 So we're going to come back in just a second for a closing 48:34 thought from these two gentlemen, 48:36 but right now Jaimie Jorge is going to join us again 48:40 and one of my favorite songs, It is no Secret. |
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