Participants: C. A. Murray (Host), Stewart Pepper & Tim Bailey & Pastor Anthony
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016046A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:24 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:46 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:09 My name is CA Murray, 01:11 and allow me once again to thank you, 01:12 for sharing just a little 01:14 of your no doubt busy day with us, 01:16 to thank you also for your love, 01:17 your prayers, your support of this ministry. 01:19 When we say that, 01:20 it is not something that we say by rote, 01:22 we realize that we could not do 01:24 what we are called to do without your partnership. 01:26 So we do thank you for your prayers 01:28 and your support of 3ABN ye these past 31 years. 01:32 I'm excited about today's program, 01:34 for a number of reasons. 01:35 One, it is a subject area that fascinates me. 01:38 And two, we've got three distinguished gentlemen here, 01:41 to talk about this subject 01:43 from the Pennsylvania Conference. 01:44 These are men of standing and stature both 01:49 and they're talking about something that 01:51 that calls for every member involvement. 01:54 And when we talk about getting out of the churches 01:56 and into the streets to do the work of God, 01:58 that excites me thoroughly 01:59 and that's what these brethren are going to be talking about. 02:02 I have with me today, Pastor Anthony Crawford, 02:05 he of the Williamsport Seventh-day Adventist Church. 02:08 Pastor, good to have you here. 02:09 Good to be. Yeah. 02:10 And in the middle, the head guy, 02:13 he is the ministerial director 02:14 of the Pennsylvania Conference is Tim Bailey, 02:17 Tim, good to have you here. 02:18 Thank you very much. 02:19 And he looks rather Professor, 02:21 I think it's a little beard here 02:22 that does it. 02:24 He got to be teaching a class. 02:25 And on the last but not least, Pastor Stewart Pepper, 02:27 Pastor, good to have you here. 02:28 He of the Pittsburgh Seventh-day Adventist Church, 02:32 I went to school, college 02:34 before I transit went Oakwood 02:36 in western Pennsylvania on a basketball scholarship. 02:40 It's not one of my brighter days, 02:41 I broke my ankle twice playing ball on the Sabbath. 02:44 And my pastor said, 02:45 "You know, you're gonna break your neck one of these days, 02:47 so Lord will keep you from breaking your neck 02:49 unless you break your ankle." 02:50 I got the message and I transferred 02:51 and behaved myself. 02:53 Amen, praise God. 02:54 I know that area of the state 02:55 that we're gonna be talking about by default. 02:57 But these are, first of all they're witty guys, 02:59 these are guys that love the Lord, 03:01 bring a certain humor with them, 03:02 but I think they're very serious 03:04 about our subject matter. 03:05 Because it is one that 03:07 the church in general needs to be involved in. 03:09 And I don't know exactly where 03:11 and when do we'll talk about that this came. 03:13 But it is something that the church is gonna be doing 03:15 and you may want to replicate this in your church. 03:18 Certainly, they're gonna need some assistance from you, 03:19 so I'm gonna give you the punch line even now, 03:21 we're gonna be asking you to help them in this 03:23 because it's a big effort 03:25 and it's something that 03:26 really could sweep the nation as it were to do great things 03:29 for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 03:30 Pastor, I want to talk with you first, 03:32 Pastor Anthony if I may. 03:33 You are from where originally? 03:35 Originally, I was born in Indiana. 03:38 But a little accent maybe from Texas. 03:41 My wife is from Texas, and so I spent many of my years 03:45 growing up in Texas, 03:46 so a little bit that I picked up. 03:48 And then, I was lucky enough 03:50 to go to Southern Adventist University, 03:53 graduated from there 03:54 and took a call down to Florida. 03:57 And so I spent probably about nine years, 04:00 almost ten years in Florida. 04:02 And then lucky enough to be called to Pennsylvania. 04:06 And have been pastoring there for about the last five years. 04:08 Okay, I thought I heard little something I said, 04:10 that's not Indiana, 04:12 a little bit of Texas is still there. 04:14 Little bit of Texas is still in there. 04:16 That's not an Indiana accent. 04:18 Adventist home obviously? 04:19 Adventist home. Growing up? 04:21 Growing up, with my mother and father, 04:24 they were active in the church. 04:26 My father is still very active in his church 04:29 as a head elder much to my... 04:33 They got divorced when I was about ten. 04:36 But both of them, 04:37 my mother was out of the church for almost 18 years. 04:41 Broke my heart, I remember in the academy 04:43 I was sitting there and I read in scripture 04:47 where it's so hard for someone that once knew the truth 04:50 to come back and spent three days weeping 04:53 because this is where my mother was 04:56 and I begin to pray for her 05:00 and just before becoming a pastor, 05:04 I lay pastor for about ten years, 05:06 and the Indiana Conference was kind enough to allow me 05:10 to re-baptize my mother after 18 years. 05:13 And she is back in the church 05:15 heavily active in her church down in Florida 05:18 and I just praise God for the parents that he gave me 05:22 that led me to the truth and encourage me 05:25 and have been there for my entire life. 05:27 Let me ask this pastor, when did, 05:29 it's one thing to be growing up in an Adventist home 05:30 do the Adventist school thing, 05:32 but it's another to move into 05:35 frontline ministry as, as a pastor. 05:37 When did that call come on your life? 05:39 That call came in 2000, 05:42 I was lay pastoring a church district in Texas, 05:47 in the Texaco Conference and the district came open 05:51 and I talked to our conference president 05:53 about taking that over 05:54 and I was in a fulltime employment 05:58 and doing lay pastoring in Florida Church District. 06:00 And, and he said, "You know, 06:01 we really want you to go back to school." 06:04 And for me that was like man, I'm not sure at my age, 06:07 I want to go back to school. 06:08 And so my wife and I, 06:10 we prayed about it for almost a year. 06:14 And I finally made a call, and I said, 06:17 "You know God, I really need to know 06:18 what you want me to do. 06:20 Which school you want me to do?" 06:22 And so I actually called every one of our colleges up. 06:25 And I said, "I need an application 06:29 to go into theology." 06:32 And I we talked about it silently to the Lord, 06:36 and I said, "Lord, whichever one comes back first 06:40 is the school I'll go to." 06:42 And we went to the post office 06:46 and there was Southern's application. 06:50 And that was the only one that came for almost two weeks, 06:54 and one day we walked into the post office 06:57 and the postmaster came and said, 06:58 "We're so sorry, 07:00 somehow all of these got caught up 07:03 and we need to deliver him." 07:04 And those were the applications from the other colleges, 07:06 and so we packed up sold our house, 07:10 sold everything, 07:11 I had a six year old daughter at the time. 07:13 And we headed to Southern 07:17 to finish my degree in theology, 07:19 did that in two years 07:21 and by God's grace then received the call to... 07:23 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 07:24 I mean to Florida. 07:25 I guess you're happy that Walla Walla 07:27 wasn't the first one in the box, is it? 07:28 Yeah. 07:29 By God's grace, by God's grace. 07:32 Tim where you from originally? 07:34 Well, I was born in Cleveland, Ohio 07:37 to a steelworker's home 07:39 and I grew up somewhat on the streets of Cleveland. 07:43 And that was kind of a mixed bag because... 07:46 Was that an Adventist home or no? 07:48 It was, it was an Adventist home 07:50 but when you're in the inner city 07:52 and all your friends, 07:55 they participate in a lot of activities 07:57 it's not sanctioned by Christian home 07:59 that becomes challenging at times. 08:03 When did the call for you for ministry come? 08:05 How did it come? 08:06 Well, I my, my childhood was very good, 08:10 I had a very loving father and mother 08:12 who trained me up in the way I should go. 08:15 And I wavered from that, 08:18 I wandered with some of the street kids 08:20 for some time but, 08:22 I had a unique conversion experience 08:25 and I believe it was a total experience 08:29 completely that night when I gave my heart to Lord, 08:31 because the Lord really spoke to my heart. 08:33 I remembered a prayer my mother had prayed with me 08:36 as a little boy on her lap 08:38 as she read Uncle Arthur's Bible stories to me. 08:41 And we would pray God bless the missionaries 08:43 and the colporteurs. 08:44 And I, I couldn't be a missionary, 08:46 I knew I wasn't qualified to that, 08:47 but I didn't know what a colporteur was. 08:50 And I committed to it that night 08:51 when I gave my heart to Lord. 08:53 I went to the conference office the next day, 08:55 and signed up to be a literature evangelist. 08:58 It was in that experience as the Lord blessed me 09:01 the affirmation from others kept telling me go to college, 09:05 become a minister. 09:07 We see some gifts in you. 09:09 And that journey was over 30 years ago, 09:11 and I haven't turned back since. 09:12 Praise God. Praise God. 09:14 Praise God. 09:15 You are as a ministerial director 09:17 we call the pastor's pastor. 09:19 How many pastors are there in the Pennsylvania Conference? 09:22 We currently have 40 pastors and 25 lay pastors. 09:25 It's interesting, one week ago, we had 14 lay pastors. 09:29 We have aggressive lay pastor training program 09:33 where we graduated 25, 29 lay pastor 09:37 but for 16 more we added two so now, 09:41 we have additional lay pastor team. 09:45 We're really trying to have the goal 09:47 of having a lay pastor 09:49 and aggressive active lay pastor 09:52 in every single church in the Pennsylvania Conference, 09:55 in every single church. 09:56 That is a worthy goal. 09:58 Pastor Pepper, Pastor Stewart. 10:00 Where you from originally? 10:02 West Virginia. Okay. 10:03 Nobody, traveled to too far you're all kind of... 10:08 I was born and raised in Parkersburg. 10:10 Adventist home growing up? 10:11 My mother was an Adventist, I did from third grade on 10:14 I was in Adventist education and spent most of my life 10:19 just living in West Virginia 17 years though 10:22 there was an interlude after I got married. 10:24 We immediately moved over to Hagerstown, Maryland. 10:27 My wife was a schoolteacher in West Virginia, 10:29 and we moved to Hagerstown, Maryland. 10:31 And I worked for 17 years in the bindery 10:34 at the Review and Herald Publishing Association. 10:37 So that was, that was the beginning of my work. 10:40 Really I guess, I was a literature evangelist 10:42 for a year and a half before that but my... 10:44 the beginning of my work in the church 10:46 was for the Review and Herald Publishing Association. 10:47 Yeah. 10:48 I have great respect for literature ministry. 10:50 I can't do it, I tried. 10:51 When we were in school, 10:53 you had to do a summer vacation to do literature stuff. 10:55 It's not like I have great respect. 10:57 They're people who put families through school, selling books 11:00 and my thin skin is too thin and I'm too easily, you know, 11:05 that my rejection thing is too low, I can't. 11:09 Low threshold. 11:10 Yeah, low threshold, 11:12 either you slam the door at my face, 11:13 I'm ready to go home and cry again, I can't do it. 11:15 But there are those who can, I have great respect because, 11:16 it is you talk about 11:18 a faith walk in the faith ministry. 11:19 Right. 11:20 Every day you got to get up strap it on, 11:22 and get out and hit the bricks train. 11:23 I have a great respect for people. 11:25 And I think it makes a special kind of 11:26 empathetic minister who has done that, 11:29 because it's a faith walk, it really is. 11:31 It gives you the never give up mentality. 11:33 Very much so. Right. 11:35 Very much so, I tried it. 11:36 If someone gives me a sob story, 11:37 he'll take the book, 11:39 we've got to pay for that book you know. 11:41 That kind of thing. 11:43 I want to go to our music, I want to get back, 11:44 come back and go right into the ministry 11:46 and spend the rest of my time doing that, 11:47 now we kind of know a little bit who you are. 11:49 Our music today is coming from someone 11:52 who I had the privileging of baptizing 30 plus years ago. 11:55 There's a doctor Yvonne Lewis, 11:56 she's going to be singing In Christ Alone. 12:16 In Christ alone my hope is found 12:21 He is my light, my strength, my song 12:26 This Cornerstone, this solid ground 12:32 Firm through the fiercest drought and storm 12:37 What heights of love, what depths of peace 12:42 When fears are stilled, when strivings cease! 12:47 My Comforter, my All in All 12:53 Here in the love of Christ I stand 13:05 In Christ alone! 13:08 Who took on flesh 13:11 Fullness of God in helpless babe! 13:16 This gift of love and righteousness 13:21 Scorned by the ones he came to save: 13:26 Till on that cross as Jesus died 13:31 The wrath of God was satisfied 13:37 For every sin on Him was laid 13:42 Here in the death of Christ I live 13:59 Oh, oh. 14:08 There in the ground His body lay 14:14 Light of the world by darkness slain: 14:18 Then bursting forth in glorious Day 14:24 Up from the grave he rose again! 14:29 And as He stands in victory 14:34 Sin's curse has lost its grip on me 14:39 For I am His and He is mine 14:45 Bought with the precious blood of Christ 14:58 No guilt in life, no fear in death 15:03 This is the power of Christ in me 15:08 From life's first cry to final breath 15:14 Jesus commands my destiny 15:18 No power of hell, no scheme of man 15:24 Can ever pluck me from His hand 15:32 Till He returns to take me home 15:37 Here in the power of Christ I'll stand 15:42 No power of hell, no scheme of man 15:47 Can ever pluck me 15:50 From His hand 15:58 Here in the power 16:00 Of Christ 16:06 I'll stand 16:20 Thank you, Yvonne Lewis, well done. 16:22 I have with me today in the studio, 16:24 Stewart Pepper, Tim Bailey, Pastor Anthony Crawford, 16:28 they all of the Pennsylvania Conference. 16:30 Gentlemen, I want to jump right into the ministry 16:31 because the ministry is called Faith for Family and, 16:36 and I think I'll just start off with you Tim, 16:38 because it grew out of the Pope's visit in 2015. 16:43 So sort of walk us through 16:44 the genesis of the ministry and then where we're going. 16:45 Yeah. 16:47 We had an opportunity that was laid in our laps, 16:49 it's just unbelievable that 16:50 the Pope was coming to Philadelphia. 16:53 Someone said, "Oh, 16:55 are you in supporting the Pope's visit." 16:57 And I... 16:58 the comment over and over was, 17:00 "Look, when the twin towers were hit back a few years ago, 17:03 I held an evangelist meeting about ten weeks later, 17:07 because I wanted to ride 17:08 the wave of enthusiasm and excitement 17:11 towards anything that will lead to Jesus, 17:13 and that does not mean that I support terrorism, 17:15 because I held an evangelistic meeting after that." 17:19 And we did, we took an opportunity, 17:21 the Pope coming to Philadelphia. 17:23 And we organized a program, 17:24 it was on September 12th of last year. 17:28 We trained over 750 individuals to give Bible studies. 17:33 And we were hoping that on September 12th, 17:35 our church members will show up 17:36 and they would go out in strong forces and they did. 17:40 The expectations were far beyond 17:42 what we can even imagine. 17:44 On September 12th, 1,120 Seventh-day Adventists 17:50 went on the streets of Philadelphia and Reading. 17:53 Over the next three weeks, we had over 3,000 individuals 17:57 proclaim the good news of Jesus' soon return. 18:00 As a result, we had started the process 18:04 and we had 120 small groups 18:06 that the individuals went door to door knocking 18:09 would funnel into as they were interested. 18:12 Eighteen evangelistic series in the culmination. 18:15 By the end of November, we had 102 baptisms, 18:20 and by March of the following year, 18:22 we were able to trace 156 individuals 18:28 that joined the church from that day knocking on doors. 18:30 Perfect, now when you say, 18:32 they hit the streets and knocked on doors. 18:33 Where they giving away something, 18:34 encouraging people to sign up for something? 18:36 Kind of walk us through what they were doing? 18:37 Yes. That's a good question. 18:39 We were dreaming big and actually 18:43 we had printed three quarters of million glow tracks. 18:47 A quarter million Bible study door hangers that simply said, 18:52 "We have something for you, 18:54 would you be interested in signing up?" 18:56 We tried to talk in pray 18:58 with the many individuals as we could. 19:00 We signed them up on the, on the process. 19:03 But if they weren't there, we left a door hanger, 19:05 and we overreached a little bit, 19:07 we didn't get that 19:08 million pieces of literature out that day. 19:10 But our church members 19:12 without asking volunteered at the end 19:14 and they rallied together and said, 19:16 "We're going to keep this up 19:17 until we give them all distributed." 19:19 And in the next three weeks they passed out 19:21 a million pieces of literature in that territory. 19:24 And that wasn't the end of it, 19:26 because I come from the Mountain View Conference 19:28 which is West Virginia. 19:30 One of our young men that went up to Philadelphia, 19:32 I had no knowledge of it whatsoever at the time. 19:34 He went up and helped pass out those glow tracks 19:37 and he came back to West Virginia, 19:38 and it was like he started a movement, 19:40 he called me up, 19:41 I was pastoring the Charleston Church. 19:42 He called me up and he said, 19:44 "Hey! Can I put a program on in your church?" 19:46 We ordered 8000 just in Charleston 19:49 and many more in a Ripley churches I pastored, 19:52 tens of thousands of glow tracks have gone out 19:55 all over the Mountain View Conference., 19:57 all because of the project in Philadelphia. 19:59 So it's not just a one time thing. 20:02 The enthusiasm spread to places 20:04 that didn't even know it was going on. 20:06 So it was so exciting for us. 20:07 Now you saw then, Tim, 20:08 you saw a line from hitting the streets 20:11 almost directly to the baptismal pool that was a, 20:13 you know, not a straight line 20:15 but certainly there was connection. 20:17 There was a... 20:18 We did this and we got this. 20:20 So what did that say to you about involvement 20:22 and about the future plans of this program 20:24 as far as mission is concerned? 20:25 Well, I believe that God's church needs 20:27 total member involvement. 20:29 That is imperative 20:30 and so we saw such a great success. 20:34 Let me just say this, CA, 20:35 that we spent less on this project financially 20:39 than most people will spend 20:41 by calling in evangelism and paying for them to come. 20:44 Yeah. 20:45 Out of that 156, let me tell you, 20:48 they are not only involved in the church. 20:51 We have one of the individuals 20:52 who is already the personal ministry director. 20:55 And the tithe has increased 20:57 in one of the churches that we went to 20:58 as a result of this by 25 percent. 21:01 Yeah. 21:03 Because the activeness of the membership. 21:05 So you get all this unintended collateral stuff going on, 21:08 that's just a direct response to getting out 21:10 and getting used by the Spirit of God. 21:12 Here's what one church member said to me. 21:15 "Pastor Tim, it's about time. 21:19 I thought that we were going to receive some, some pushback, 21:22 oh, you're asking us to get out of our comfort zone, 21:25 we don't want to do all this. 21:26 This is too much work far from the truth." 21:30 The interest has been so great 21:33 that we're not only doing it again, 21:35 but we have other regions of the conference already saying, 21:38 "When are you coming to our church." 21:39 Yeah. Yeah. 21:41 Here's that I know you discovered because, 21:42 I discovered that in my ministry, 21:43 my first evangelistic crusade, 21:45 I think I brought it in for a budget about $3000. 21:48 My last one was 15 times that, you know, 21:51 to do evangelism the classical way 21:54 is just get more expensive 21:56 and the yield is going down per dollar. 21:58 You know it is, but when you get people out on the street, 22:01 your overhead is lower and your yield is higher. 22:05 You may not get this big rush of people 22:07 and then you may you know, 22:09 but certainly it's more efficient 22:10 and if is a more efficient way to spend, to spend the money. 22:13 And the church members have grown as a result. 22:15 Yeah. 22:16 We have greater attendance, greater participation, 22:18 tithe has increased and why? 22:21 Because there's active passionate ministry going on, 22:25 you can't, you can't do that without having a changed life. 22:28 Yeah. Yeah. 22:31 Arthur, how did you get involved in this whole deal? 22:34 Because I want to, I want to ask 22:35 and I think I ask a pastor 22:36 rather than a ministerial director, 22:38 was it a hard sell or does the brethren buy into this 22:40 without a lot of prodding? 22:42 Well, you know, the interesting thing is 22:44 when this was introduced this is going to happen 22:46 in Philadelphia in the Reading area. 22:48 Well, my church is about two and a half hours 22:51 to three hours away from Philly. 22:55 And so I got up, and I pitched to my church 22:59 and I said, "You know, we really need to do this." 23:01 In fact, we cut church short that day, 23:05 loaded up in cars and we went to Reading. 23:11 We had over 20 of my members 23:13 come from my church two and a half hours come in. 23:15 When we got there it was pouring down rain. 23:19 We're not talking sprinkling, 23:21 we're talking the, the heavens were open 23:25 and some people were thinking about building an ark. 23:28 And, and my church members 23:30 when we walked through the door of that church in Reading, 23:34 and those members in Reading seeing people 23:36 that came from a distance to support them, 23:39 the mood in the church just totally changed 23:42 and they became excited as we loaded up in cars 23:46 umbrellas in hand. 23:47 Yeah. 23:48 Rain gear in hand, 23:50 because we were not going to allow the devil 23:51 to take away what God had already started. 23:54 And my church members coming back, 23:57 we came back to the church and people were excited. 24:00 And it was just a huge lift from my church 24:03 and they are ready to go ahead and do it again. 24:06 And going to the other side of the state to make it happen, 24:10 and so God has just bless, you know, 24:12 you always have people they're like, oh, well, 24:14 why are we doing this or you know. 24:16 Yeah. 24:17 They start thinking about themselves. 24:19 But as we did this, 24:21 it began to change the mentality 24:23 that we are a team. 24:26 God has called us to be involved 24:28 in finishing the gospel message. 24:31 And how much better is it to go to a city 24:35 when we bring everybody with us, 24:36 how much more territory that we can cover 24:39 than the local churches could take years to cover. 24:42 We can cover all at one time 24:44 and have the gospel message go forth 24:45 because we want that as Tim said, 24:48 that total member involvement of bringing everybody in 24:51 because when people work for the Lord, 24:53 they are blessed above and beyond 24:55 what they could ever think or imagine. 24:56 Amen. Amen. 24:58 So we are taking our show on the road 24:59 and that means is of course going west. 25:01 Obviously, these two worthy gentlemen 25:04 who sit beside you, Tim, bought into it. 25:06 Amen. 25:08 But here's what Adventist do. 25:09 Adventist get up on Saturday morning, 25:11 depending on a motivation they come to Sabbath school, 25:13 if not they come for 11 o'clock service. 25:16 And then they go back home. 25:17 So to break them out of that habit can be tough. 25:22 We know that your, your ministerial core 25:25 bought into it and obviously, your church bought it. 25:30 Did you, did it catch fire? 25:31 Did it hit any kind of critical mass 25:33 as far as the members are concerned 25:35 across the conference? 25:37 It did, it not only caught across the conference, 25:40 we had some of our churches, 25:42 actually a couple of our ministers 25:44 who had a harder time 25:46 because they weren't real eager to do door to door. 25:50 Were wondering do I really have to come. 25:52 But interestingly enough those are some of the ministers 25:55 who got the most involved afterwards. 25:57 In fact, in several of our churches, 26:00 they went back 26:01 and we ordered additional material, 26:03 in fact, three of our larger churches, 26:06 they went back 26:07 and they replicated this process 26:10 in their church of their own 26:12 without any additional help from us. 26:14 I had a ministerial 26:16 and personal ministry department 26:17 from another conference 26:19 call up about a month after we finished it and they said, 26:23 "Would you send us all your material 26:25 how to organize and structure this." 26:27 We sent it to them and they, 26:29 they blanketed one city of about three million 26:31 with the same type of process is the way. 26:35 I want to talk about exactly what the initiative is 26:38 for the West but before I do that. 26:39 I want to talk to the two pastors 26:43 and ask just so that our members, 26:45 our viewers can, 26:46 can hear this out of your mouth. 26:48 What does active membership 26:51 active participation and evangelism 26:53 do for the spiritual life of a church? 26:57 Well, I think it's revolutionary when, 27:00 when members become involved, they start forgetting about 27:04 what color we should paint the sanctuary or, 27:07 or what the flowers or the weeds that are in there 27:10 and who should have been pulling them out 27:11 and those things. 27:13 And their focus turns from self 27:15 to what the gospel has asked us to do 27:18 which is go out and make disciples. 27:19 Yeah. 27:21 And for my church 27:24 I live in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. 27:27 Williamsport, Pennsylvania is noted 27:31 for the Little League World Series. 27:34 The Williamsport Church has been there 27:36 for over 100 years. 27:39 We've had a school in that town for over 100 years. 27:42 Very few people even know what an Adventist is. 27:46 And because of the excitement that's been caused, 27:49 our church is dedicated this year 27:52 for the first time in over 100 years 27:54 to be in the Little League World Series parade 27:58 that happens just before. 27:59 Over 40,000 people come to our town 28:03 and this is the first time 28:04 that we are actually joining that and I truly believe 28:07 it's because the membership, 28:08 because of this has begin to think 28:11 outside of self and go. 28:12 We got a mission to do. 28:14 And let's do it together and to go in spots 28:18 where we can reach the most people possible 28:20 and so I see it is just 28:22 dynamically moving things forward 28:24 our school has continued to grow. 28:27 I pastor at three church districts in a school. 28:30 And our school has continued to grow, 28:32 the outreach ministries are growing 28:34 and people just become more and more on fire 28:37 when they see souls coming through the door 28:40 and seeing those things. 28:41 And so God has just blessed in abundance 28:43 and already talking about, I met with my church board. 28:48 And I brought this up 28:49 and several of my church members 28:51 I said, "You know, I really think we should do 28:53 something as a church not just as individuals 28:55 but as church financially donate to this 28:59 because of the condition of the churches out west 29:01 not all of them you know 29:03 we have some churches that only have eight members. 29:05 And so one of my board members, you know, I was hoping well, 29:10 maybe we might do about maybe 5,000 God be... 29:14 And I had one church member said, 29:16 "Well, you know, 29:18 I was thinking more like eight or ten." 29:20 You know so God was just working on their heart, 29:22 because of stuff that they had seen happen 29:24 in Philadelphia when we went there. 29:26 Excellent! 29:27 Pastor Stewart, same kind of response in, in your church? 29:30 Well, I'm brand new in Pittsburgh. 29:32 Actually Ray called me up, 29:33 Ray Hartwell is the president of the Pennsylvania Conference 29:35 and he called me up, 29:37 because I did evangelism down in West Virginia 29:39 and Maryland, Mountain View Conference. 29:41 And he said, 29:42 "Would you be interested in coming to Pittsburgh." 29:44 And I said, "No", and he said, "Well, would you consider it." 29:48 And so when I saw the need that was there and I think 29:51 we'll be talking about that need 29:52 a little later in the interview, 29:54 but when I saw the need that was there 29:55 and I realized how desperate it was. 29:57 I, I got excited about this, it was like. 29:59 Man, there's just so much that we can do 30:03 with such a big marketplace like Pittsburgh and Erie, 30:05 and some of these other towns 30:06 that are fairly decent sized towns. 30:09 There are so much marketplace and so few Adventists 30:12 as we'll see as we go on, that I got excited 30:16 and I know that my church was already being put on board 30:19 before I even got there. 30:20 I've actually been there for just a few weeks now. 30:23 So I was actually called in 30:26 to be a part of Faith for Family, 30:28 so that's why I am there. 30:29 Flame has led, your job is to keep it fanning, 30:31 kept it fanning, you put fuel on the side, 30:32 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 30:34 Pastor Tim, ministerial director 30:35 we talk about going west, 30:37 we're talking about western Pennsylvania. 30:38 You have seen now that knocking on doors, 30:41 kind of doing it the old fashioned way 30:43 rubber meets the road, 30:44 boots on the ground kind of thing 30:46 still works in 2016. 30:48 So we're going west 30:50 we're expanding faith for the family. 30:52 Walk us through what your plans are 30:54 and where you're going now? 30:55 Well, first in I want to say that 30:57 our vision is to hit every single city 31:01 in the entire Pennsylvania Conference. 31:03 This year we're focusing on 31:05 these major cities of Pittsburgh 31:07 and Erie and this thing. 31:08 Our mission is total member involvement 31:11 because we need, we need their help. 31:14 And so our call is that we want every member to help 31:18 and we want to hear the response 31:19 you can count on me. 31:21 That's kind of some buzzwords that we are really emphasizing 31:24 and so far our membership has not disappointed us. 31:27 Amen. 31:29 So we now have other regions of the conference saying, 31:32 "When is it our turn. 31:33 When is it our turn." 31:35 So we're really focusing on Western Pennsylvania, 31:37 because we have 23 churches, 31:40 15 of which are actively involved 31:43 in a covenant contract, 31:44 they're all 23 involved in some way. 31:47 But 15 have signed a contract 31:49 under business session saying that, 31:51 we've started a prayer ministry. 31:54 We're actively praying every single day 31:56 and we have intentionality, 31:58 we are responding with spiritual revival. 32:02 We are going to participate in Bible studies. 32:05 We are going to participate in evangelism. 32:08 We're going to do everything within our power 32:10 and we're putting in financially. 32:13 So we have a good start 32:15 with these churches in this region. 32:17 Okay. 32:18 You know one of the photographs that we have 32:20 we just wrapped up camp meeting. 32:22 And we set up a booth, we had a family fun day. 32:26 And so the community was invited 32:29 and the church members, we combine Pathfinder day 32:32 and everything all together, there was vendors everywhere. 32:35 And Faith For Family had a booth 32:37 and what we offered was family photos. 32:40 And people to sign up to be ready to go out 32:43 to the western part of P.A. and make a difference. 32:46 And there's about four photos on there 32:49 and when we look at those photos. 32:51 There are people that are holding up signs, 32:53 they have buttons on, 32:54 we have shirts made and this is, you know, 32:57 Faith and Family I mean FaithForFamily.org 33:00 And so, they're wearing these, 33:03 they're getting out of their community. 33:05 We ask them to take those buttons 33:07 and put them somewhere 33:09 where they will see him everyday 33:11 because we realize that we can do all the prep work, 33:15 we can sign contracts, we can motivate people. 33:18 But without the Holy Spirit going before us, 33:22 and making an impact on people, 33:23 we don't have a chance to be successful. 33:25 Yeah. 33:26 And we know that we live 33:28 in the major part of the great controversy. 33:31 We are nearing the end of time 33:32 and the devil is trying to do everything he can 33:34 and so we need prayer warriors, not only our church members, 33:37 we're hoping that the 3ABN viewers 33:40 will join us in that prayer ministry 33:42 of praying for the Holy Spirit to drive back Satan 33:47 and his evil angels to get us into doors 33:50 for people will be convicted that families will be changed, 33:53 because part of the title is the fact 33:55 that we realize that in today's society 33:57 the devil is attacking families. 33:59 Very much so 34:01 I mean, and so we're asking, you know, 34:03 we're trying to put out literature 34:04 that's going to help marriages stay together. 34:07 We're putting out literature. 34:09 We're hoping, and hopefully this will cause 34:11 some schools to be opened in the western part of P.A. 34:14 Where we've closed almost all of those, 34:16 we have no schools now in the western part of P.A. 34:19 Which just breaks our heart, and so we're hoping by this 34:22 that this Faith and Family movement 34:23 will help do those things, 34:25 bring people to the gospel message. 34:28 And that we will have that total member involvement, 34:31 I really appreciate the fact 34:33 that some of the things that we learned 34:36 in the first initiative was that maybe we should do 34:39 a little more prep and a little more after. 34:42 And so by God's grace, 34:44 we have hired nine Bible workers 34:48 to be in that part of P.A. 34:50 not only before the meeting start, 34:53 but we've actually employed them 34:56 to be there afterwards 34:58 because we want those that are coming in to not go. 35:03 Well, my job is to come and sit and fill the pew. 35:06 But we want them to be trained 35:08 to go out and give Bible studies 35:11 to their neighbors, to their families, 35:13 to their friends. 35:14 So the next region that we do Faith For Family in, 35:19 we're hoping that our numbers by God's grace, 35:22 we're believing that God's gonna come through 35:24 that those numbers will double and triple, 35:27 because these people will be bringing more people 35:30 into the church by being trained 35:32 and we're just praying for God to deliver there in big way. 35:35 Praise the Lord. 35:36 Tim, I got to... 35:37 sort of pushing just a little bit 35:39 because you're asking the membership to step 35:42 way outside of what is not they're no more confident. 35:46 You're asking people to get up from where you are 35:48 and come and help another congregation 35:51 or several congregations in another part of the state. 35:55 A couple of questions occurred to me. 35:56 Is, is Western Pennsylvania much tougher than the East? 36:00 Has it just not had this kind of initiative before? 36:05 Let's wrestle with that and then and then 36:07 we'll move in some other stuff. 36:08 We'll just put a little perspective, 36:10 in the 1040 window 36:11 which we know two thirds of the world lives in. 36:14 There's one Adventist for every 1,600 people 36:17 1,600 some people. 36:19 In Western P.A. 36:21 there's one Adventist for every 5,000 individuals. 36:25 In fact, in the greater Pittsburgh area 36:27 there's one Adventist for every 12,000 individuals. 36:30 Yeah. 36:32 Now, we want to be very careful to say that 36:34 we've tried a lot of things in the past 36:37 but obviously, they haven't quite worked, 36:40 maybe it's not the right time 36:42 and we don't know all those reasons. 36:44 But we know one thing, 36:46 that is relationship and discipleship 36:48 and a total member involvement that God is asking for. 36:52 And so we are already we're experiencing growth. 36:57 I had one of the pastors tell me 36:59 just last week for the first time in 20 years. 37:04 My members are totally involved in this project. 37:07 I see a lifestyle change. 37:09 One of the elderly ladies stood up 37:11 couple of weeks ago in his church and she said, 37:15 "I'm out witnessing for the first time 37:17 in my entire 50 years in the church 37:20 and the Holy Spirit I think put words in my mouth." 37:24 Amen 37:25 See you like people say things like that, 37:27 you do, yeah, yeah. 37:28 It's exciting. Yeah. 37:29 So, so we just, you know, Ellen White says it that 37:34 right before Jesus come, 37:35 there will be armies of not only youth 37:38 but individuals going door to door 37:40 proclaiming the good news 37:41 and that's an inspiration to us. 37:43 And guess what? 37:45 Our church members are not opposing it. 37:48 They're, they're saying it's about time pastor. 37:51 We want to be involved. 37:52 In fact, we have 11,000, approximately 11,000 membership 37:57 in the Pennsylvania Conference already 38:00 just as we're kicking off this initiative. 38:03 We have almost 1000 individuals registered to go out West. 38:07 Amen. 38:08 In Western Pennsylvania, but guess what? 38:10 We're here because we realize that's not enough. 38:14 We need. 38:15 We're not we're not proud here. 38:18 We'll take your help. 38:21 We will take your help from England. 38:23 We'll take your help from California, 38:26 who ever can help us out, 38:28 we are in desperate need, 38:30 these little dying churches need everybody. 38:34 So you actively soliciting help from across the conference 38:37 and outside of the conference for this initiative. 38:39 And I see, I see your, your buddy over there 38:41 is about ready to explode. 38:42 Listen to the scope of what he's saying 38:44 you've heard the statistics. 38:46 We've got over 1000 people signed up now, 38:49 and we know there's going to be more coming 38:50 as the momentum grows. 38:52 But in Western P.A, 38:53 now there's a 11,000 people in the whole P.A. 38:55 Conference Pennsylvania Conference. 38:57 But in Western P.A. there's only 1,300 members. 39:01 Only 1300 members 39:03 we're gonna have more people coming to help us. 39:04 Yes. 39:05 Then we have members. That's exciting. 39:07 That is just a huge, it's a very exciting. 39:10 CA, I think, I think another unique factor in this is 39:13 because, you know a lot of times we send our kids off 39:16 to the academy or whatever else, 39:19 and we're wondering what's gonna happen, 39:20 and we've had academy shut down and those kind of things. 39:23 But Blue Mountain Academy, 39:25 when we set this initiative up last year, 39:28 they loaded their entire student body up 39:32 brought them to Philadelphia in the Reading Area. 39:35 They have already committed that this year 39:38 they are going to bring the whole student body. 39:41 We are doing a youth rally 39:43 that we're expecting over 300 young people 39:46 to come out with this, and work on this initiative. 39:50 And I don't think there's any greater thing 39:52 that we can pass on to our children 39:55 than that idea of the fact that God has called them 39:58 to spread the gospel, 40:00 because, we want to go home. 40:02 We want to go home. 40:03 We want to be totally involved in what God has asked us to do 40:07 in training our young people. 40:08 I really appreciate the principle and stuff at BMA 40:11 that has made this commitment to says, 40:13 you know what? 40:14 "We're not just going to sit back here 40:15 see how it turns out. 40:17 We're going to get in and we're going get dirty 40:18 and we're going to get it done." 40:20 Praise the Lord. 40:21 You know, CA, the business director 40:24 personally told me last year, 40:26 was actually in their executive committee. 40:28 He made the comment that 40:31 it was one of the most single influential things spiritually 40:34 that the young people had done. 40:36 Because they went door to door and they saw miracles. 40:39 They saw actual miracles take place. 40:42 To the young people actually informed the chaplain 40:45 and some of the school members that 40:47 because of their experience, 40:49 they saw the Lord leading that 40:50 they were considering the ministry now as a result. 40:52 Praise God. 40:53 Things can change people's lives 40:55 when we have no expectation. 40:57 Now, gentlemen, what kind of commitment are we asking. 41:00 You know people are coming and you've got a 1000, 41:03 you've almost equal the membership 41:04 of that part of the state which is an exciting thing. 41:06 But how long do you want them there, 41:09 what are the kinds of the things 41:10 they're going to be doing 41:11 so that people know exactly what I'm signing up for? 41:13 Well, there's two ways that they... 41:15 There's actually three ways they can participate. 41:19 One is they can come out just for the day 41:21 and then there could be even a fourth way. 41:24 But they... 41:25 October 1st is the big media blitz 41:28 where we'll be passing out Bible study cards 41:31 and literature and things of that nature. 41:33 You can also come out 41:35 and participate in the evangelistic series 41:37 and also in the pre-work 41:39 and in the Bible study some things. 41:41 So there's many ways 41:42 and if you go to FaithForFamily.org, 41:45 you can actually sign up and volunteer. 41:48 Now, this is really exciting because 41:52 a lot of people wish that they could be missionaries. 41:54 Yeah. 41:55 And they've thought about it all their lives 41:57 and right now, you can go to a territory 42:01 that has less Adventists the 1040 Window, 42:04 it's like paddling down the Amazon. 42:07 But you're still in your own country 42:09 without the reason all the things of that nature. 42:12 And so we really do need their help 42:15 and we're expecting people to bring their RVs. 42:17 We're expecting people to come in. 42:20 If you're within the Pennsylvania region, 42:22 we're bussing, we're running vans, 42:25 we're doing whatever we can. 42:27 And it's interesting our, 42:29 our members are paying for their way 42:31 to come to this project. 42:33 Because a little bit of help by each individual 42:37 makes the big picture a lot better. 42:38 Yeah. Yeah. 42:39 It's not just a one day event though. 42:41 After the event when we're going to be 42:43 passing out all the literature 42:44 and advertising the evangelistic meetings. 42:46 There's going to be people coming in 42:48 to do the evangelism. 42:49 Pastors from all over the conference 42:50 are going to come in 42:52 and even our Columbia Union President is gonna come in, 42:55 and they're gonna come in and do evangelism 42:57 and so there's going to be follow-up work, 42:59 Bible studies that need to be done 43:00 to meet these people. 43:02 It's a huge event 43:03 and I don't think people are realizing 43:04 the scope of it and the need of it. 43:06 We need people to help... 43:07 I want to walk through this book, 43:08 because we touched on a lot of things. 43:10 There is a kick off day, 43:11 a kick off event and that date is? 43:14 October 1. October 1 43:15 October 1. 43:16 On our website, if people go to our website, 43:21 they are going to see a couple different things. 43:24 One, there's a registration. 43:26 If you would like to be involved, 43:27 there's basically four ways 43:28 that we've lined out that you can be involved. 43:31 One, we encourage you to pray for us. 43:34 Please let us know that you are praying for us, 43:37 because there something happens 43:39 when you go up to somebody and say, 43:40 "Brother, I'm praying for you." 43:41 It makes a difference, 43:43 it gives us that spiritual encouragement. 43:44 Yeah. 43:45 And so we're asking, you know, 43:47 if you're 90 years old, and you watch 3ABN 43:49 because you can no longer get to church 43:50 or you're 105 years old like some of my members. 43:53 And you're watching 3ABN 43:55 because you can't get to church. 43:57 You can pray like nobody else. 43:59 Amen. 44:00 And so we're asking for those prayers. 44:02 And the second thing is, we've hired nine Bible workers. 44:06 That doesn't come at zero price. 44:09 We have to pay them 44:11 and so we need financial support. 44:13 We need the material to be able to go out all of those things. 44:15 The churches are kicking in but, 44:17 you know, if you're a church of eight people, 44:18 sometimes you don't have the funds 44:20 to do what your heart wants to do. 44:21 Yeah. 44:23 You know, and so, 44:24 we've seen some miracles take place with that. 44:26 So we need people's financial support 44:27 and you go on the webpage 44:29 and there is a spot where you can give online 44:31 or you can mail it to the address 44:34 of the Pennsylvania Conference. 44:35 And the other way that you can do that, 44:39 is you can say, you know what, 44:40 I want a short term involvement. 44:42 So in other words, I want to show up on October 44:45 at one of the area churches which we posted online 44:48 or you can call the conference office 44:49 and they'll let you know where it's going to be. 44:52 And you can just go door to door with us, 44:54 and enjoy the fellowship. 44:55 After we get done with that rally of going out 44:59 and reaching the towns. 45:00 We're coming back to Laurel Lake Camp, 45:02 and we're going to have a rally 45:04 of talking about what God did that day because, 45:06 we feel it's really important, you know, we can ask, 45:08 we ask God a lot of things. 45:10 Yeah. 45:11 But very rarely do we take time to praise Him 45:13 for everything He's done. 45:15 And so, we want to take time 45:18 that Saturday night to praise God 45:20 for what He did throughout that day 45:23 of getting people to places, you know, 45:24 those divine appointments He's going to have. 45:27 And then the other way that you can become involved 45:29 the fourth way that you can become involved 45:31 is that long term commitment. 45:34 Not only for this one, but for the next one we do 45:36 or maybe you've got gifts and talents. 45:40 We have churches that some of them need some repairs 45:42 before we bring the public in. 45:44 There sometimes that you know what, 45:46 you were on a wonderful 45:47 children's program in your church. 45:49 And you would like to come 45:50 and donate your time and efforts 45:53 to help these little kids 45:54 that will come in with these families 45:55 because it's all about families coming in 45:57 that they'll know Jesus. 45:59 You know, I love it when a kid starts telling mom and dad 46:01 about the Adventist message, don't you? 46:03 And so that kid brings those things up, 46:05 and points those things up. 46:07 So we need people to do that. 46:08 We need people to give Bible studies. 46:11 We're hiring Bible workers but, you know what? 46:13 If God blesses with 10,000 Bible studies, 46:17 we're going to need more than nine people go out 46:19 and give them and more than the 1300 that's in the church. 46:23 And so, we need that total member involvement 46:27 and so all of those opportunities, 46:28 if you go to the web page, you can do that, 46:30 if you don't have the Internet 46:31 because a lot of people don't do the internet. 46:33 But if you want to call the conference office, 46:35 we will direct you on to what needs to happen, 46:37 when you can be there. 46:40 You know, so God is just using multiple ways 46:42 and we want everybody... 46:44 Yes. 46:45 Total member involvement. Yeah. 46:47 And we're not talking about just in PA. 46:49 We want worldwide total member involvement. 46:52 I think this is so very, very exciting. 46:54 Let me ask you this, Tim. 46:57 I want to say, what do you hope will happen. 47:00 But I want to use a little stronger word. 47:01 What do you anticipate will happen? 47:04 Well, I already have some evidence 47:06 of what is happening. 47:07 I received a letter from one of the church members, 47:10 this is not a pastor. 47:12 And this church member wrote a two page typed letter saying, 47:17 "I want to thank you in the Pennsylvania Conference 47:19 in the vision that you're casting here 47:22 for what's happening in their church." 47:23 Each church with their commitment and preparation. 47:26 There's heart commitment, 47:27 there's church commitment everything, 47:29 so we have, we have this church has added 47:34 remodeling of the bathrooms, putting new floor down 47:38 and things so their church is 47:39 physically ready for new members. 47:41 They're acting with faith on it. 47:44 They had not had an active prayer meeting in the church 47:47 because, of the small size for over ten years. 47:50 They would try. 47:52 They would have two or three church members. 47:54 Since this initiative has come 47:56 and the Spirit of Lord has worked upon their heart, 47:58 over two-thirds of the church membership 48:00 is attending every week. 48:02 That's a good sign. That's a good sign. 48:03 And they are involved already 48:06 praying for those members that they want 48:09 for those family members and friends to come. 48:12 They started out with two each, that was a requirement 48:15 to participate in prayer meeting. 48:18 And she's wrote in the letter that it has far exceeded 48:21 that no one only has two 48:23 and then she wrote and I want to quote. 48:26 "Now, we realize that we are committed 48:30 not only to pray for them, 48:31 but to be used by God to invite them." 48:35 Yes. Yes. 48:36 And I'll tell you what. 48:37 We're anticipating 48:39 a true revival of primitive godliness 48:42 and experimental knowledge of Jesus Christ in this region. 48:47 And we're anticipating that our, 48:50 our membership will increase. 48:52 And that the new membership we want to be disciple, 48:56 we want to bring in young people 48:58 because out of the 500 that attend in this region. 49:03 This is from the Adventist, we only have 20 individuals 49:07 that come into Sabbath that are under the age of 13. 49:12 Yeah. Yeah. That needs to be corrected. 49:14 A couple of things, we've got a bunch of pictures, 49:15 I know I want to ask you all three a quick question. 49:17 But let's go to those pictures now, Robert, if we will 49:19 and walk me through what we're looking at. 49:21 Well, this is before the day started in Philadelphia. 49:24 Our church members, they were phenomenal, 49:27 they had all the bags set up 49:29 with all the literature to go to each one. 49:31 This is one elder 49:33 in one of the churches there with the bag. 49:35 Come to the next picture, 49:37 the streets of Philadelphia in Reading were flooded. 49:40 If you were to put a helicopter over certain regions, 49:42 you could see these yellow t-shirts everywhere. 49:45 And I had one of the police officers stop traffic 49:48 so that our group could cross the street 49:50 where we were going there. 49:52 It was phenomenal. 49:54 You could just look everywhere 49:55 'Cause I was driving around 49:57 going all the different churches 49:58 making sure things were going well. 50:00 It was easy to find our people, 50:02 they were like busy bees everywhere going door to door. 50:06 And I want to tell you about one of the doors 50:08 that one of our members went to. 50:11 The individual said, "Oh, no, I don't want this literature 50:15 because, I now believe that the seventh day is the Sabbath 50:19 and I'm keeping Saturday Sabbath. 50:22 And then the lady said, 50:23 "Oh, are you a Seventh-day Adventist?" 50:26 And he said, what? 50:28 And she said, "You're not a Seventh-day Adventist?" 50:29 He says, "I never heard of a Seventh-day Adventist." 50:32 So she began to march him back to the church 50:35 and the pastor had come 50:36 because they ran out of literature 50:38 and he walked up to the door the same time 50:41 they walked up to the door. 50:43 And they connected this individual was baptized. 50:47 Amen. 50:48 That's one of those stories but, since then 50:50 eight of his family and friends have been baptized. 50:53 Amen. Amen. 50:55 He is now the personal ministry director for the church. 50:58 And it's all because of a divine appointment 51:01 of knocking on a door. 51:02 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 51:04 Gentlemen, I want all three to take a stab at this 51:06 and you've got to move kind of quickly 51:07 but, talk to me about... 51:10 I use a big 25 cent word reciprocity 51:13 that when you go out and give yourself, 51:15 God sees to it that you get something back and, 51:17 and this can serve as motivation 51:19 for people to go out because, as you give you get. 51:22 Have you found that in your own ministries 51:23 and one that when members do this they do receive back. 51:26 I definitely have. 51:27 You know the experiences that I talked about before 51:29 on how God has taken something, 51:32 we went out to the Philadelphia Reading area. 51:34 We come back, God blesses 51:37 with people coming into our church, 51:39 and it's just like, you know, 51:41 people just showing up and you're more like, man, 51:42 God is just awesome in delivering us. 51:45 So yeah, definitely God returning to us 51:47 more than what we ever gave out. 51:49 Pastor Stewart? 51:50 It's the principle, 51:52 if I'm working for the Kingdom of God. 51:53 You know, I could build houses, 51:55 I could do a lot of different things 51:56 with my life I have. 51:58 But when we bring a soul to Jesus, 52:01 we get to see that soul forever. 52:03 The house will fall down, 52:04 the book that I used to make in the bindery 52:06 at Review and Herald will go away eventually. 52:09 But that soul, that soul that we bring to Jesus 52:12 will get to witness that person forever. 52:13 Yeah, Pastor Tim? 52:15 I want to conclude and say that we need your help. 52:17 Yeah. 52:19 We need not only 3ABN's help, 52:20 but we need every member in Pennsylvania. 52:23 But we need people outside, 52:24 because this is beyond ourselves 52:26 especially this dying region. 52:28 We need the help of our members, 52:29 we need total member involvement 52:31 because, Jesus is coming again. 52:33 And there are souls that need to hear His, His words. 52:37 Very good. 52:39 We are going to go into our newsbreak, 52:41 we'll come back, put up the address roll 52:43 so that you can do exactly what Pastor Tim has asked. 52:45 And that is where you can call, where you can sign up, 52:47 where you can become part of the team. 52:51 Just after our newsbreak, we'll come back, 52:52 we'll put a little bit bow on this 52:53 and end us sitting together. 52:57 Faith for Family seeks to share the love of Jesus 53:00 and the gospel with every family in every city 53:02 throughout the commonwealth of Pennsylvania. 53:05 If you like to support this ministry, 53:07 you can do so by writing to Faith for Family, 53:10 720 Museum Road, Reading, Pennsylvania 19611. 53:15 That's Faith for Family, 720 Museum Road, 53:19 Reading, Pennsylvania 19611. 53:23 You can call 610-374-8331. 53:27 That's 610-374-8331 53:31 or visit them online @faithforfamily.org. 53:35 It's all one word faithforfamily.org. |
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