I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to a
very special 3ABN today.
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My name is CA Murray.
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And allow me please to thank you
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once again for sharing
your love, your prayers,
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your financial
support with this ministry.
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And to thank you for
all that you do to help us
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do what we are called to do.
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And that of course
is to lift up the mighty
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and matchless name of Jesus,
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and to explore
wherever in the world
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someone is doing something
good for the cause of Christ,
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to tell you about that,
to give you encouragement
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and information and hopefully
inspiration as together,
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we walk this road
that leads to glory.
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Our program is
very, very special today
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because we're going to talk
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about your best
pathway to health.
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3ABN has been
privilege to partner
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with Your Best
Pathway to Health.
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Dr. Chris and Lela Lewis,
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who are quite good
friends of this ministry.
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And we have seen
how this move of God
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in the body of Christ
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has impacted series and many,
many lives for Jesus Christ
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over the last several years.
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As you know, it began just
few years ago in the Oakland,
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San Francisco area,
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then they moved to San Antonio,
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Spokane and of course,
this past April was a very,
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very in fact the largest
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of the your best
pathway to health's
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in Los Angeles, California.
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And we had Dr.
Chris and Lela here.
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Sometime I go to
talk about the needs
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and those needs were meet,
in fact they were exceeded,
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and I'll give you
the punch line even now.
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Well, over 4200, close to 4300
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and change volunteers
descended upon Los Angeles.
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And I think the number
was over 8, 500 patients
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were seen over the
course of the two and half days.
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So we wanted to
give you some snippets,
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some highlights
of some of the story,
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some of the blessings,
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some of the
miracles that took place
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during Your Best
Pathway to Health, Los Angeles.
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There are plans in the
works for Boston, New York.
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There is one coming up
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in West Virginia
in just a little bit,
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so this move is something
that is not getting less.
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It is growing and growing
and Christ is being glorified
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through Your
Best Pathway to Help.
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As Dr. Chris and
Lela Lewis partner
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with the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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and with the various conferences
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to do a great work for the Lord.
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Well, I want to move quickly
into some of our video roles,
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so you can get a flavor
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of what we saw
there in Los Angeles.
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This first role
is the volunteer.
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Her name is Sue Lee.
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She kind of represents
that large number of volunteers
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that came in to
help with registration.
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So we tried to pick
someone from each category,
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and I spoke with
Sue Lee from Arizona,
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who made her way to Los Angeles.
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And here is our interview.
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We are Here Your
Best Pathway To Health,
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and I am with Sue Lee.
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And she is wearing
a black shirt, so Sue,
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tell us what does
that black shirt mean?
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The black shirt means for
anyone who is a volunteer,
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we get a black shirt.
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Now it could be in many
different kind of departments,
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and so it will
depend where you're placed
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or where you chose
to have preference for.
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I see.
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So your black shirt means
that you chose to volunteer.
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Right. What is your church?
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My church is Desert Cove
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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in Arizona.
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Yay!
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So you came all
the way from Arizona?
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Yes, but I'm not the furthest,
I have friends who came out
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from Baltimore, and
from Virginia, everywhere,
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Michigan, it's everywhere.
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Just coming in
to flood this area.
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Why did you feel it
was so important, Sue,
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take away time from your
job, perhaps your family,
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your church to
come to Los Angeles
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to be part of this, why
is this important to you?
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Well, not only it
was a great opportunity
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for local mission field
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and you don't even
have to buy a plane ticket.
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Well, at least for
me I didn't have to.
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So that was the
huge incentive as well,
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and the climate
that we're in these days,
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we know the
work is getting done.
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And we want Christ to come.
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We want the love of
Christ to just exude out,
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and He was all about healing,
recreating, restoration,
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that's huge and so
it's a medical ministry,
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right arm of the gospel.
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So in this city of angels,
we want to make a lot of angels
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for His glory, so that's huge.
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Amen, thank you so much.
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Now two quick
questions because, one,
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are you a working
person, are you working person?
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Yes, yes.
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I'm a speech pathologist,
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that's mine line
of training, yes.
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So you had to leave your
job, take time off to do that.
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Correct, I let my
boss know ahead of time.
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I had to put in
the time correct.
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A little while ago,
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I saw you
gathered the group together
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and you were praying a
very passionate prayer.
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What was motivating that prayer?
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Why were you praying so much,
it was in middle of the day,
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but you gather them
together for something special,
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why was that?
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Yes, it was just on my heart.
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I'm all about prayer ministry,
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and intercessory prayer is huge.
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And God says knock,
knock, knock, right?
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"And knock and it
shall be given you,
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seek and you shall find."
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But it's like
asking for that bread,
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the lady comes out
at midnight and saying,
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"Lord, please help."
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And we're in a dire straits
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a little bit
with some of probably
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the other force
working against the good
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that's coming out of here.
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So we wanted to make sure,
we as a group came together
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and had intercessory prayer.
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That's such a huge
heart passion of mine, yeah.
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Now are you in
charge of this group
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or did you just
take it upon yourself
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to gather them
together for prayer,
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because you saw
something going on
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that you needed
to push back again?
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Correct, the ladder.
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The person in charge
actually she's wonderful.
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Cathleen Myers, and
the whole team behind me,
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they're just great.
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They've been working
nonstop since yesterday.
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We've been here
again this morning
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since 6 o'clock
in the morning too.
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But I know some of the things
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that was going on
that maybe they didn't,
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and so I just came and I said,
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"Hey, you guys, we have
a slight little pause time.
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Let's get together and pray.
Take as many times as you can.
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Even in our minds like
continually just keep praying,
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yes.
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It's early,
we're on the first day.
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Right.
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But have you met
anyone or run into anyone
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that would kind of
stick out in your mind,
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maybe a little special story
that touched your heart so far?
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So far, in terms
of, I am dealing more
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with the
volunteer people coming in.
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So I haven't had as much
interface with the patients
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that are coming in.
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I hope to, but in
terms of the volunteers,
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there's several
stories that do come to mind
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of how they made it here and,
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you know,
they're running on lows,
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low level finance
and all this stuff,
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but it's a walk
of faith for them to.
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It's jus t wonderful to see
how many of the body of Christ
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has comes
together to really support
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this for city of Los Angeles.
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We talk about the
right arm of the gospel,
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and a medical machinery work,
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many times we've got just maybe
a little blood pressure thing
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or little something,
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but this is sort of medical
machinery work on steroids...
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Yeah.
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And when you
get a town this big,
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this is kind of what you need.
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So do you think this is
all the effort, all the time,
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all the money,
all the logistics,
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is it worth it to you?
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Wow, well, one
soul is worth everything
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to our heavenly Father.
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So in that mindset,
if I'm heavenly minded,
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this is all worth it.
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And not only is it bettering
the people that are coming
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through the doors, I think
it's a great sense of honing
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our characters for His kingdom,
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even for our experience
here, because there is times,
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there's several
of the workers here,
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they didn't have a break at all.
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They work straight nine hours.
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Barely getting
even a bathroom break.
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I think some of them
didn't even get that.
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And it's a sense of
okay, my sense of intolerance
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and my self
rising, like I'm like okay,
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I got to just give
that up and be selfless,
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and be other centered
for the sake of someone else.
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So that's huge. Yes.
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So this is kind of like
putting legs on the gospel,
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putting some
shoes on the gospel.
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Correct, correct.
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Now some people might think
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it's a splash
and dash thing too.
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Like "Oh, we can't boom."
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And then we're
out, but hopefully
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it's making the local agencies,
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especially in our
church the local agencies
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of this city and the, you know,
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the areas beyond get
a little bit more like,
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"Hey, let's wake up.
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We got to do more here too.
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So hopefully that's an
impetus to that as well.
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And God bless you. Thank you.
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Thanks you so
much. Praise the Lord.
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Seriously to His glory.
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There was a large
group of individuals
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wearing black shirts,
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who were
responsible for registration.
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A really wonderful
group of individuals.
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Our friend Janet Barnhill
who is also been here at 3ABN
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was part of that group.
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And they did
just a wonderful job.
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We wanted to highlight the...
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participation of young people,
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who were part of this ministry.
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Tiffany Hogans comes
from Los Angeles Academy.
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And we had a chance to catch her
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as she was running to
and fro on the second day.
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Here's our
interview with Tiffany.
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Hi, I'm visiting
here with Tiffany Hogans,
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who is the
senior class president
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at Los Angeles
Adventist Academy.
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Tiffany, it's
good to have you here.
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It's good to have you
too. Couple of questions.
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One, how many students
from your school are here?
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I believe it's 25 students.
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And were you all
given specific assignments
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before you got here,
or did they just place you
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when you got here?
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When we got here,
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we just had to go
sign up in the booth
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and then they just access
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with what
department we want to go to.
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So basically, they
just set us anywhere,
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but we had our options
of where we wanted to be.
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Okay. Now where
did you select to go?
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I selected to go to
the dental department,
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and yeah.
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I forgot to
mention, Tiffany is a senior.
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She is senior class president
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and where you gonna
go to school in the fall?
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Pacific Union College.
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You gonna stay on the coast?
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Yes. Alrighty.
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This is our second day here.
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You had a full day yesterday,
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tell me exactly what you were
doing in the dental department?
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I was basically
helping the doctors
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and going back and forth
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to go give whatever they needed
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and helping them with the water.
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And going to get the
vessels for the patients
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and just any medical
things they needed help with.
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Was this what you expected,
more than you expected,
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less than you expected,
different than you expected,
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how was the experience,
what you got into doing
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what you are called to do?
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It wasn't really
expected when I got here,
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but when I got here,
I was pretty excited.
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When I started seeing everything
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that I wanted to do.
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And so, when I saw everything,
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I just started being like happy,
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and everything and joyful.
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And when I saw
most of the patients
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they were all
just so like friendly,
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and I got to know
some other patients
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and known some of
their personal lives
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and everything like that, yeah.
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Let's talk about that
just a little bit, Tiffany,
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because you are
interfacing with the patients,
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they are talking to you,
you are talking with them.
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Is there any particular story
that stands out in your mind,
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of a particular
patient that you are dealing
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with yesterday?
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One patient in
particular, she couldn't afford
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to get the medical
help that she needed.
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So she was praying
to God asking for a way,
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but the way that,
she couldn't find a way
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but somehow this
convention center thing,
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it popped up and
then she heard about it
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through the
radio and then she came
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and I guess that was
a big blessing for her
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because she
couldn't afford it at all.
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Excellent.
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We've been talking
about now I've been asking
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in each interview
about reciprocity.
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Long word simply means
when you give something,
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you get something.
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Have you found that
true in your experience here,
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you're giving to them
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but you're also
getting a blessing yourself?
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I believe when
giving a blessing,
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I would receive one back
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but I don't look at it that way.
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I believe in helping people
and giving them opportunity
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to give what they
need rather than looking
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for something back.
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I like that idea.
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But it is true that
when you give, you do get,
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because God sees
to it that you get.
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And that's the
great part of service
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that when you give
you to somebody else,
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God gives you a
little something back.
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Have all of your
fellow classmates
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felt that same thing?
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I am pretty sure they did, yeah.
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What time you're
getting up in the morning?
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In this morning,
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and got here round 9 o'clock.
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Alrighty, very good.
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So you've got
rested today and tomorrow,
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then are you leaving or
you'll be here for Sabbath?
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I'll be leaving tomorrow
in the evening time, yeah.
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If you ever get an
opportunity to do this again,
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would you do it again?
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Most definitely, yeah.
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Okay, here's that
commercial part, Tiffany.
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Say that someone out there
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is kind of sitting on the bench,
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they're saying,
"Yeah, may wanna go,
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I may not wanna go."
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what would say as far as
your experience is concerned
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to convince them
that they should come
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and do something like this.
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I think you all
should just come out,
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and help and support everyone.
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And just come out
and just do a good deed
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because you always
get a blessing back
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when you're giving something.
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And it's also good experience
for your personal life
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with helping others.
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Tiffany, thank you very much.
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God bless. Thank you.
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We finally were able to catch up
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with Dr. Lela Lewis on
the second day of Los Angeles,
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Your Best Pathway to Health.
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Dr. Chris was in
surgery the whole time,
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we weren't able
to talk with him.
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But we did catch her,
she had a wonderful story
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and we got to spend
just a few moments with her.
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We're near the
close of day number two,
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and we finally had
a chance to catch up
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with Dr. Lela Lewis.
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She has been extremely busy
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and I said just
before we went on
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that she must be pretty close
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to talked out doing
interviews, giving directions,
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running to and fro.
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But good, doctor,
good to have here.
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Thank you so much, CA,
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it's always a
pleasure to be with you.
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Great, give us a little overview
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of the first day
in three quarters.
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Has it met your expectation,
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so we know a lot of
people have come in.
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There were some
challenges yesterday,
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but give us just your
flavor of the overview
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of the last day and half?
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You know, we had a
little hiccups to began with,
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just initially, but
God worked it all out.
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We ended by God's grace
yesterday spectacularly.
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And today has
just gone beautifully.
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Miraculously beautifully.
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Everybody has
been working together
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and it's just
gone really smooth.
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I noticed, in
running back and forth,
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just taking
pictures and looking around
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even though some
machines were acting up,
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people were not acting
up, they were behaving.
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And there was a very good sprit
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even though the technical
aspects were little rough,
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the human
aspects were very smooth.
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Yes, and everybody continuous
to get along and smile
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and really truly
exemplify Jesus to the patients
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and to ourselves.
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Praise the Lord.
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Now, I saw today what
I had expected to see.
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We began to see the long
lines particularly in dental,
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and of course in eye care.
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I know you're moving
through as fast as you can,
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how many dentists and
dental setups do you have here?
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We have a 125 dental
setups and we have just over
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94 to 95 dentists on site.
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So it's a good setup.
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Some of the
dentists take a couple chair
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so it works out well.
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Now what about eye
care on the other side,
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close to the same numbers?
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Well, we have few
less optometrists.
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But we have a
number of eye care lanes
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and so eye care is
actually able to see
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just around 750 to
800 patients per day,
00:16:25.81\00:16:28.78
and they're doing a great job.
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Excellent, now
even with the hiccups,
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what was our
number for yesterday?
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Our number for
yesterday was 22,559.
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And today we have
actually just come
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between the two days,
just under 6,000 patients.
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So we are very,
very excited. Yeah.
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You're heading close
to the kind of numbers
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you were thinking
of when you began this?
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Well, we'll see, we'll see
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what God has in
store for tomorrow,
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but the biggest thing
to me right now is that
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we are just doing our very best
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and things are just
coming together beautifully.
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What is your sense as far as
community impact is concerned.
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What kind of
flavor you're getting back
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from the community
that kind of things?
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Just today, I had multiple city
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councilmen's
office come and say,
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"We had no idea, it was so big.
00:17:08.82\00:17:11.69
Oh, you're
Seventh-day Adventist,
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you're doing a wonderful work.'
00:17:13.23\00:17:14.56
Multiple, multiple
people are saying that.
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So I think the effect
we're seen at the beginning here
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in Los Angles,
it's gonna be similar
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to what we saw in San Antonio.
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Excellent, I saw yesterday
evening's newscast on ABC
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and CBS and I saw
ABC again this morning.
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So the news media has
been here, haven't they?
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Absolutely, we're
just finishing as CBS Live,
00:17:31.85\00:17:35.55
that was National CBS was
here which is spectacular,
00:17:35.58\00:17:39.59
we've never had
National news before.
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And I suspect that'll
be running again hopefully.
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Yes, I understand that'll
be later tonight as well,
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but of course it was
live when they ran in.
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Your husband I suspect is over
there doing his surgical thing,
00:17:48.96\00:17:51.30
hiding somewhere in
the bowls of surgery, yes?
00:17:51.33\00:17:53.40
Yes.
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So for the next couple
of hours today and tomorrow
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what are we looking at doing?
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So we gonna finish this patients
00:18:01.38\00:18:02.71
that we've got in here.
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We want to service as
many of them as possible.
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So our providers are
working expeditiously.
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Tomorrow we're
gonna just maximize stuff.
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Everybody's got a system now.
00:18:11.12\00:18:12.65
So we're expecting to see things
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really flow well tomorrow.
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Excellent.
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Before I let you go, I know you
see live in terms of stories,
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and people tend
to mean a lot to you.
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Has anything story
wise, personal interest,
00:18:22.76\00:18:25.27
human interest
wise, sort of jumped out
00:18:25.30\00:18:26.97
at you in the last day and half?
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Absolutely, and
it's the 3ABN story, CA.
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So there was a gentleman,
who was a homeless man
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and I hope I have more
than 20 seconds here CA.
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Oh, you can take
your time. Okay, good.
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There was a gentleman,
he was a homeless man,
00:18:38.65\00:18:40.65
had no money whatsoever
living out of his car,
00:18:40.68\00:18:43.28
it was super, super cold.
00:18:43.32\00:18:44.65
He lived in
Idaho, it was February
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just a few months ago.
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It was so cold, he
saved every thing he had,
00:18:48.16\00:18:50.53
he put it and he
rented himself a cheap motel.
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Never watched TV
because he was homeless, right?
00:18:52.96\00:18:55.50
Got in his hotel room,
just happened to be flipping
00:18:55.53\00:18:58.30
through the channels, and
just happened to turn on 3ABN,
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Three Angels
Broadcasting Network.
00:19:01.74\00:19:03.91
And of all the
things he happen to see,
00:19:03.94\00:19:06.54
it was an interview with
you and Elder Gilley and myself.
00:19:06.57\00:19:10.25
And it was showing and Dr. Chris
00:19:10.28\00:19:12.28
and it was showing
what we did in San Antonio.
00:19:12.31\00:19:14.65
He got so excited, he
saved every single penny,
00:19:14.68\00:19:17.75
he got himself
transportation down here
00:19:17.79\00:19:20.12
with the very first
person in line for dental,
00:19:20.16\00:19:22.49
staying three
days ahead of time.
00:19:22.52\00:19:25.43
Outrageous and how wonderful.
00:19:25.46\00:19:27.66
Irma and I came by
here Tuesday evening,
00:19:27.70\00:19:31.37
and there are may be
half a dozen people here.
00:19:31.40\00:19:33.30
So he may have been one
of the people that we saw
00:19:33.34\00:19:35.27
if he was first
in line, we saw him
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I think he was and
he was so impressed,
00:19:37.14\00:19:39.11
he loves 3ABN
00:19:39.14\00:19:40.48
and he loves the
Seventh-day Adventist Church so.
00:19:40.51\00:19:42.71
Praise the Lord.
00:19:42.74\00:19:44.15
What feedback have you
been getting as far as the...
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What's the word I want to
use, the stature of Adventism
00:19:48.45\00:19:53.36
in this community
given what we're doing here?
00:19:53.39\00:19:56.19
You know, it's just heightening,
00:19:56.22\00:19:57.63
it's just
heightening awareness '
00:19:57.66\00:19:58.99
cause more than awareness.
00:19:59.03\00:20:00.36
It's heightening awareness
that we Seventh-day Adventist
00:20:00.40\00:20:02.43
love just like Jesus
loved, and we care about people,
00:20:02.46\00:20:05.57
all people the same.
00:20:05.60\00:20:07.44
Praise God. Praise God.
00:20:07.47\00:20:08.80
You're still pretty
happy, still pretty excited?
00:20:08.84\00:20:10.54
Still pretty happy and excited.
00:20:10.57\00:20:12.64
Now a little buddy told me
00:20:12.67\00:20:14.01
that you've got another
one of this plan for this year,
00:20:14.04\00:20:15.98
was that a
rumor or is that true?
00:20:16.01\00:20:18.28
It is true.
00:20:18.31\00:20:19.65
We have Beckley, West Virginia
00:20:19.68\00:20:21.02
which is gonna be
a very small event,
00:20:21.05\00:20:22.88
so people are
welcome to join that
00:20:22.92\00:20:24.49
and then we are looking
for Boston in September.
00:20:24.52\00:20:26.76
So Lord willing
we'll be in Boston.
00:20:26.79\00:20:28.96
Bless your heart,
Boston in September.
00:20:28.99\00:20:31.29
So we can even
start the promotion now.
00:20:31.33\00:20:34.06
If you are on that
side of the country,
00:20:34.10\00:20:36.00
and maybe LA was a little
too far for you to travel,
00:20:36.03\00:20:38.47
you got Boston coming up.
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Any parting thoughts
before we let you go.
00:20:40.44\00:20:43.30
Keep praying for us here.
00:20:43.34\00:20:44.67
We want to just show Jesus
tomorrow and all His power.
00:20:44.71\00:20:47.48
Thank you so
much. Praise the Lord.
00:20:47.51\00:20:48.84
Let me ask you
this very quickly.
00:20:48.88\00:20:50.21
Have you heard anything
from the mayor's office,
00:20:50.25\00:20:52.08
or have we had any
contact with the mayor's office?
00:20:52.11\00:20:54.58
The mayor's office
actually did a PSA for us
00:20:54.62\00:20:57.69
which was broadcast all
over, so that was a wonderful,
00:20:57.72\00:21:00.36
wonderful thing as well.
00:21:00.39\00:21:01.72
Excellent. Praise God.
00:21:01.76\00:21:03.09
Dr. Chris,
you're hardworking lady,
00:21:03.12\00:21:04.63
thank you so very
much for taking little time
00:21:04.66\00:21:06.66
from your very
busy schedule to me
00:21:06.70\00:21:08.80
with this and
talk with our audience.
00:21:08.83\00:21:10.17
God bless. God bless you.
00:21:10.20\00:21:12.53
Doctor Lela is
certainly excited and enthused
00:21:12.57\00:21:16.27
about the work that she does.
00:21:16.30\00:21:18.97
The person that she was speaking
00:21:19.01\00:21:20.34
of was Paul Kincaid.
00:21:20.38\00:21:21.71
We actually got a chance
to interview Paul Kincaid
00:21:21.74\00:21:24.85
later on that evening.
00:21:24.88\00:21:26.45
And it's really quite
an interesting 3ABN story.
00:21:26.48\00:21:30.75
Here is Paul Kincaid's
story in his own words.
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Good evening.
00:21:35.02\00:21:36.59
We have another wonderful
testimony to share with you.
00:21:36.62\00:21:39.59
This is Paul Kincaid.
00:21:39.63\00:21:41.36
He is one of the patients
that we've seen during our time.
00:21:41.40\00:21:44.27
And Paul has an
interesting experience
00:21:44.30\00:21:46.13
that we would like
him to share with you.
00:21:46.17\00:21:48.24
Paul, you shared with me
00:21:48.27\00:21:49.70
that you actually live in Idaho,
00:21:49.74\00:21:52.97
and way kind of
up on a mountain,
00:21:53.01\00:21:55.01
and earlier this year, in
kind of the dead of winter,
00:21:55.04\00:21:59.38
you're on your way home,
00:21:59.41\00:22:01.15
and because you
lived way up on a mountain,
00:22:01.18\00:22:03.75
where you have to the park,
00:22:03.79\00:22:05.12
and actually walk to
your house about a mile.
00:22:05.15\00:22:08.36
You decided on
this particular day
00:22:08.39\00:22:10.19
that just would be
too difficult to do.
00:22:10.23\00:22:12.66
So what did you do,
00:22:12.69\00:22:14.03
since you weren't
gonna go directly home?
00:22:14.06\00:22:15.46
Well, I guessed in my mind,
00:22:15.50\00:22:18.37
where I could
stay for the night,
00:22:18.40\00:22:20.74
and in the little
town of Plummer in Idaho,
00:22:20.77\00:22:23.51
there is one motel.
00:22:23.54\00:22:26.27
And they just
happen to have a vacancy,
00:22:26.31\00:22:28.78
and I went to stay in
the motel for the night.
00:22:28.81\00:22:32.35
So you decided to stay
there in motel for the night
00:22:32.38\00:22:34.95
and you went in.
00:22:34.98\00:22:36.32
And the receptionist actually
gave you a little black box
00:22:36.35\00:22:39.75
or something to
operate the television.
00:22:39.79\00:22:41.76
So did you do with that,
00:22:41.79\00:22:43.12
is that's something that
you do all the time watching TV.
00:22:43.16\00:22:44.69
Well, I don't own a television.
00:22:44.73\00:22:46.59
I don't have electricity
up there in the mountains,
00:22:46.63\00:22:49.03
and I didn't even know
about this little box before.
00:22:49.06\00:22:52.37
Hence, so I said
I didn't want it,
00:22:52.40\00:22:54.87
because I didn't have a
use for, and she said, oh,
00:22:54.90\00:22:58.21
that's a remote control,
so you see how old school.
00:22:58.24\00:23:02.44
And so I said,
"Okay, I'll take it
00:23:02.48\00:23:06.92
and maybe there is something
worth watching on television."
00:23:06.95\00:23:10.69
And so I took it.
00:23:10.72\00:23:13.32
Okay, so then you took it,
you decided to take a shower
00:23:13.36\00:23:16.19
and go to sleep.
00:23:16.22\00:23:17.56
But then you woke
up and you decided to,
00:23:17.59\00:23:19.46
love to see what
might be on television,
00:23:19.49\00:23:22.26
and what did you discover?
00:23:22.30\00:23:24.80
Well, I was went
through the different channels,
00:23:24.83\00:23:29.80
menu things like that and I
found a program called 3ABN,
00:23:29.84\00:23:36.08
and lot of you
probably know 3ABN.
00:23:36.11\00:23:40.38
And so who was on 3ABN at
the time that you tuned in?
00:23:40.42\00:23:44.55
Well, there was a man and woman.
00:23:44.59\00:23:47.76
And I didn't recognize
them, but they were so excited
00:23:47.79\00:23:51.43
about something that I...
00:23:51.46\00:23:54.50
it just attracted
me, I want to hear
00:23:54.53\00:23:56.93
what they were talking about.
00:23:56.97\00:23:58.67
So what were they talking about?
00:23:58.70\00:24:00.54
Well, they were
talking about wellness.
00:24:00.57\00:24:02.70
I was not too well.
00:24:02.74\00:24:05.17
And I wanted to be
well, and so I listen
00:24:05.21\00:24:09.34
to what they had to say.
00:24:09.38\00:24:10.95
And so we know
now that who was that,
00:24:10.98\00:24:13.42
that was speaking?
00:24:13.45\00:24:14.78
It was...
00:24:14.82\00:24:17.55
Dr. Lela and Chris Lewis...
Dr. Lela and Chris Lewis.
00:24:17.59\00:24:21.19
Okay.
00:24:21.22\00:24:22.56
And I didn't
know all the logistics
00:24:22.59\00:24:24.69
of what was going on,
and how I was gonna get here.
00:24:24.73\00:24:30.27
I thought it will
probably cost a fortune
00:24:30.30\00:24:32.37
for some thing like this.
00:24:32.40\00:24:33.94
And I found out it was
for free for the patients.
00:24:33.97\00:24:36.71
And that kind of
blew my mind, you know,
00:24:36.74\00:24:38.77
I say how can they
do something like this
00:24:38.81\00:24:41.54
and not charge, you know,
again a trial of something.
00:24:41.58\00:24:45.51
Yeah, all right, so
you decided in your mind
00:24:45.55\00:24:49.35
that you're actually
going to come to LA from Idaho,
00:24:49.38\00:24:55.26
so how did you get here?
00:24:55.29\00:24:57.36
Well, it wasn't easy.
00:24:57.39\00:24:59.56
I checked around different
ways to getting down here.
00:24:59.59\00:25:02.76
Even I consider riding a bicycle
00:25:02.80\00:25:05.23
all the way from Northern Idaho.
00:25:05.27\00:25:07.47
And my son-in-law
discouraged me, he said,
00:25:07.50\00:25:11.17
"You wouldn't get down there
before the program was over."
00:25:11.21\00:25:14.41
So I found that if you
bought your ticket early,
00:25:14.44\00:25:18.91
I can get a discount on it.
00:25:18.95\00:25:20.72
The only problem
was, I couldn't turn in
00:25:20.75\00:25:22.98
if I change my
mind, I was stuck.
00:25:23.02\00:25:26.69
And so you were
stuck, and you took a bus.
00:25:26.72\00:25:29.36
How long did it take for you
to get the bus, the Greyhound,
00:25:29.39\00:25:32.33
to get here to LA.
00:25:32.36\00:25:33.70
About 40 hours
because, we had some problems
00:25:33.73\00:25:36.46
with getting a
driver at one point.
00:25:36.50\00:25:39.13
Now when you got
here, you came in,
00:25:39.17\00:25:41.14
where you able to receive
services that you desired?
00:25:41.17\00:25:44.51
I received more than I
ever thought I would receive.
00:25:44.54\00:25:48.48
I can't believe all
the wonderful things
00:25:48.51\00:25:52.51
that this people had provided
for people like me, you know,
00:25:52.55\00:25:55.85
and all others just like me.
00:25:55.88\00:25:57.79
So what impressed you
about what you receive
00:25:57.82\00:26:01.22
this environment when you came?
00:26:01.26\00:26:03.36
When I came, the love
of Christ just flooded out.
00:26:03.39\00:26:10.07
I had a lot of
volunteers, and help providers,
00:26:10.10\00:26:14.70
and almost every one
of them prayed with me.
00:26:14.74\00:26:17.94
Even before and even
after the service was provided.
00:26:17.97\00:26:22.61
And I've never
been to a health place
00:26:22.64\00:26:26.18
where people prayed
with you before and after,
00:26:26.21\00:26:30.75
even before or after,
00:26:30.79\00:26:32.52
and so it was just a
really wonderful experience.
00:26:32.55\00:26:36.06
Paul, thank you so much
00:26:36.09\00:26:37.76
for sharing your
experience with us.
00:26:37.79\00:26:39.66
We are happy that we were
able to exceed your expectation.
00:26:39.69\00:26:43.47
Thank you all.
00:26:43.50\00:26:46.20
When you flush out that
story, you must be impressed by
00:26:46.23\00:26:49.40
what God will do and the lengths
00:26:49.44\00:26:51.17
to which he will
go to get the gospel
00:26:51.21\00:26:53.17
before someone who had
not turned on a television set
00:26:53.21\00:26:56.38
he told me in decades.
00:26:56.41\00:26:58.38
He's not a TV watcher,
does not own a television.
00:26:58.41\00:27:01.12
Has no electricity in his
home there on the mountain.
00:27:01.15\00:27:05.85
And who would
know, the one night
00:27:05.89\00:27:07.66
that he goes to a hotel,
00:27:07.69\00:27:10.23
turns on a remote control,
00:27:10.26\00:27:12.19
jumps to a couple of
channels and watch there a 3ABN.
00:27:12.23\00:27:15.50
It was me interviewing
Chris and Lela Lewis,
00:27:15.53\00:27:19.23
just what he needed to hear.
00:27:19.27\00:27:20.64
He heard what he needed to hear,
00:27:20.67\00:27:22.27
at the time he
needed to hear it.
00:27:22.30\00:27:23.91
And the Lord blessed.
00:27:23.94\00:27:26.04
And I told Paul
when I spoke with him
00:27:26.07\00:27:27.91
just after the meeting,
00:27:27.94\00:27:29.61
that God has brought
Adventism into his life
00:27:29.64\00:27:32.08
for specific reason.
00:27:32.11\00:27:33.45
So now he must respond to
the call of God on his life,
00:27:33.48\00:27:36.65
and he assured me that he would.
00:27:36.69\00:27:39.52
So how wonderful to know that
love of Christ will find ways
00:27:39.55\00:27:44.83
to get the gospel of Jesus,
to those who need to hear it
00:27:44.86\00:27:47.70
and who can respond.
00:27:47.73\00:27:50.03
Next is Sorren Alexander Nelson.
00:27:50.07\00:27:52.77
This is another
young person from Weimar.
00:27:52.80\00:27:54.90
Weimar came in mass.
00:27:54.94\00:27:57.47
Just about the whole
school came to be part
00:27:57.51\00:27:59.47
of Your Best Pathway to Health.
00:27:59.51\00:28:01.34
And Sorren was a young man,
00:28:01.38\00:28:03.24
a freshmen that
we wanted to talk to.
00:28:03.28\00:28:05.18
He's got a nice way
about himself, nice young man,
00:28:05.21\00:28:07.92
and we thought we'd
spend a little time with him.
00:28:07.95\00:28:10.29
This is my
interview with Sorren Nelson,
00:28:10.32\00:28:12.95
Sorren Alexander Nelson.
00:28:12.99\00:28:16.96
I'm here with
Sorren Alexander Nelson,
00:28:16.99\00:28:19.86
who he stopped in his travels.
00:28:19.89\00:28:21.60
He is a student
at Weimar Academy.
00:28:21.63\00:28:23.67
We want to give
equal time to Weimar.
00:28:23.70\00:28:26.43
And you see that
Weimar jetting back and forth,
00:28:26.47\00:28:29.40
they're moving
around doing so much work.
00:28:29.44\00:28:31.01
Sorren, first of all
tell us how old you are?
00:28:31.04\00:28:34.14
I am 14 years old.
00:28:34.18\00:28:36.41
And what year in school?
00:28:36.44\00:28:37.88
I'm a freshman
at Weimar Academy.
00:28:37.91\00:28:39.25
Alrighty.
00:28:39.28\00:28:40.62
How many young people
came from Weimar Academy?
00:28:40.65\00:28:44.72
Over 60. I think
66 students, 65, 67.
00:28:44.75\00:28:51.09
So you pretty much
emptied out the school?
00:28:51.13\00:28:53.09
Yes, that is our entire academy.
00:28:53.13\00:28:57.70
So Weimar is in
the house in a big way.
00:28:57.73\00:29:00.17
They brought the entire school
00:29:00.20\00:29:01.54
and we praise the Lord for that.
00:29:01.57\00:29:02.90
Now, were you
told what assignments
00:29:02.94\00:29:05.41
you would have before
you left to come here,
00:29:05.44\00:29:07.34
or did you get
them after you arrived?
00:29:07.38\00:29:09.91
Half of them, I did
get before I arrive.
00:29:09.94\00:29:12.65
But most of my assignments
have been afterwards.
00:29:12.68\00:29:16.12
Was that the way for
most of the young people
00:29:16.15\00:29:18.32
they knew what
they were going to do,
00:29:18.35\00:29:19.79
or they kind of
surprised when they got here?
00:29:19.82\00:29:21.86
Most of them knew
what they were going to do
00:29:21.89\00:29:25.59
like about half didn't know.
00:29:25.63\00:29:26.96
Alrighty.
00:29:27.00\00:29:28.76
Was it more than you expected,
less than you expected,
00:29:28.80\00:29:32.10
exactly what you've expected,
00:29:32.13\00:29:33.47
now that you in day
number two of your experience?
00:29:33.50\00:29:38.34
I'm actually just
amazed by how large it is.
00:29:38.37\00:29:41.61
I really, I'm just amazed
00:29:41.64\00:29:45.28
about how many doctors are here,
00:29:45.31\00:29:46.95
and how many people
are here willing to help.
00:29:46.98\00:29:50.52
So it is much
larger than I expected.
00:29:50.55\00:29:54.99
Now tell me exactly
what your assignment is
00:29:55.02\00:29:57.03
and what you are doing,
and who you are helping?
00:29:57.06\00:29:59.76
So, I worked in the
children's department,
00:29:59.79\00:30:03.06
which means I
watch over the kids
00:30:03.10\00:30:06.10
of some of the
volunteers that are here.
00:30:06.13\00:30:08.10
And also currently,
I'm working with PAD,
00:30:08.14\00:30:12.54
which we go around,
00:30:12.57\00:30:13.91
and help people
sort of help them
00:30:13.94\00:30:17.61
navigate across this area.
00:30:17.65\00:30:20.82
Very, very good.
00:30:20.85\00:30:22.18
Now I'm gonna ask you...
00:30:22.22\00:30:25.95
You got good smile, good face,
you are friendly looking guy.
00:30:25.99\00:30:31.06
Is this giving out
to them, bringing back
00:30:31.09\00:30:35.23
a blessing to you,
you know what I mean?
00:30:35.26\00:30:36.90
Sometimes when you
give out, you get back.
00:30:36.93\00:30:39.00
Is that what's
happening in your experience?
00:30:39.03\00:30:41.30
I think so, I really feel just,
00:30:41.34\00:30:44.01
really happy
helping all of this people.
00:30:44.04\00:30:45.97
I just feel amazing.
00:30:46.01\00:30:47.38
So I think it's great that
we're helping all these people
00:30:47.41\00:30:50.95
for free, so.
00:30:50.98\00:30:52.31
Great.
00:30:52.35\00:30:53.68
Is there any
experience or any person
00:30:53.72\00:30:55.05
that you've met that kind
of stands out in your mind,
00:30:55.08\00:30:56.45
that you kind of remember
from this experience so far?
00:30:56.48\00:30:59.12
We are on day two,
you've got one more day,
00:30:59.15\00:31:00.59
but you've been out
for day and half now,
00:31:00.62\00:31:02.96
so is there anyone who
stands out in your mind?
00:31:02.99\00:31:05.89
I think working with children...
00:31:05.93\00:31:10.03
is mostly what I do, but...
00:31:10.07\00:31:13.10
I think just
the children mostly.
00:31:13.13\00:31:16.24
Not really any one specific,
mostly just the children.
00:31:16.27\00:31:18.51
Just working with them,
00:31:18.54\00:31:20.68
they have much
more energy than I do.
00:31:20.71\00:31:26.51
So...
00:31:26.55\00:31:30.92
Mostly the children I think.
00:31:30.95\00:31:32.29
Okay, you're
moving away from here,
00:31:32.32\00:31:33.69
come on back home, there we go.
00:31:33.72\00:31:35.39
One last question.
00:31:35.42\00:31:37.93
As far as young
people are concern
00:31:37.96\00:31:41.33
doing this kind of work,
say there's some young person
00:31:41.36\00:31:44.03
who is watching this
and they're not sure,
00:31:44.07\00:31:45.53
"I don't know, if I
want to go down there
00:31:45.57\00:31:46.90
and be a part of
that kind of thing."
00:31:46.94\00:31:48.37
What would you say as far
as your experience is concerned
00:31:48.40\00:31:51.27
to encourage
another young person,
00:31:51.31\00:31:52.81
"Hey this is some stuff,
00:31:52.84\00:31:54.28
and you'll get a
blessing from it."
00:31:54.31\00:31:56.28
It's actually not, it's
not as hard as you think
00:31:56.31\00:32:01.25
it would be being a volunt...
00:32:01.28\00:32:02.98
just volunteering here.
00:32:03.02\00:32:04.59
Like it's very
tiring but it's worth it,
00:32:04.62\00:32:08.59
definitely worth it.
00:32:08.62\00:32:09.99
Every minute being
here, I think is worth it.
00:32:10.03\00:32:13.73
Helping people,
guiding people around.
00:32:13.76\00:32:16.50
I think it's a great opportunity
00:32:16.53\00:32:20.67
to help people...
00:32:20.70\00:32:24.97
to help people who
need medical attention.
00:32:25.01\00:32:26.34
Great.
00:32:26.37\00:32:27.71
What time you're
getting up in the morning,
00:32:27.74\00:32:29.08
what time you're
going to bed at night?
00:32:29.11\00:32:30.85
I just get up at
about five in the morning,
00:32:30.88\00:32:33.58
and go to bed to at about ten.
00:32:33.62\00:32:38.49
Are you keeping those same
hours now that you are here?
00:32:38.52\00:32:41.92
Yes, yes.
00:32:41.96\00:32:45.69
Well, you got one more day,
half of this day and tomorrow.
00:32:45.73\00:32:50.40
Are you guys staying
through the Sabbath service
00:32:50.43\00:32:52.13
or you're
heading back to Weimar?
00:32:52.17\00:32:53.97
We're actually
leaving on Friday,
00:32:54.00\00:32:55.34
Friday afternoon
or Friday evening, so.
00:32:55.37\00:32:59.37
With the lot of great stories
and lot of great memories,
00:32:59.41\00:33:01.18
do you think?
00:33:01.21\00:33:02.54
Yes, definitely, I'm going
to definitely remember this,
00:33:02.58\00:33:06.18
so...
00:33:06.21\00:33:07.92
I think everyone at Weimar's
00:33:07.95\00:33:09.28
going to
remember this experience.
00:33:09.32\00:33:12.45
Sorren Alexander
Nelson, freshmen?
00:33:12.49\00:33:15.02
Yes, freshmen. Yes, freshmen.
00:33:15.06\00:33:16.42
On the way to, do you
know, you want to do life wise
00:33:16.46\00:33:19.06
when you finish school,
and sort of make your career?
00:33:19.09\00:33:23.00
I'm not exactly
sure, something in science,
00:33:23.03\00:33:25.90
maybe physics...
00:33:25.93\00:33:29.64
Yeah. Very good.
00:33:29.67\00:33:31.84
Sorren, nice to meet you
man. Nice to meet you too.
00:33:31.87\00:33:33.68
Blessings on you.
00:33:33.71\00:33:38.15
You may have heard
the name W.A Spicer.
00:33:38.18\00:33:42.38
He was born in 1865
in December of that year,
00:33:42.42\00:33:45.99
died in October of 1952,
00:33:46.02\00:33:48.66
was a former president
of the General Conference
00:33:48.69\00:33:50.63
of Seventh-day Adventist,
00:33:50.66\00:33:51.99
but along the way,
00:33:52.03\00:33:53.36
he was a great
missionary for the church
00:33:53.40\00:33:55.36
and for the cause of Christ.
00:33:55.40\00:33:56.80
There is in Pune, India a
school that bears his name,
00:33:56.83\00:33:59.97
it is Spicer Memorial College.
00:34:00.00\00:34:03.04
The name is one of legend
00:34:03.07\00:34:05.04
and some important
history of Adventism.
00:34:05.07\00:34:07.98
When you go to a
pathways as you hear me saying
00:34:08.01\00:34:10.68
in the interview, you
never know who you gonna meet.
00:34:10.71\00:34:12.08
Well, we met a great,
great, great granddaughter
00:34:12.11\00:34:16.15
of W.A. Spicer. Her
name is Debra Spicer.
00:34:16.18\00:34:19.72
Had a chance to talk with
her, she too is a 3ABN story.
00:34:19.75\00:34:26.09
That is just wonderful
and it's so nice to know
00:34:26.13\00:34:28.30
that again God brings
the gospel in time, on time,
00:34:28.33\00:34:32.47
every time and this
is Debra Spicer's story.
00:34:32.50\00:34:38.34
When you come to a Your
Best Pathways to Health,
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you never know who
you're gonna run into.
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And you never know
what kind of stories
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you are going to unearth.
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Some very, very exciting.
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We found a 3ABN story in
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and among all of
these other stories.
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This is Debra Spicer.
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Now, if you
know the name Spicer,
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if you've been around Adventism
for any length of time,
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you know that
name Spicer is a very,
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very famous name
if I can use that term
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in the history of Adventism.
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He's got a
college named after him
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in the country of India,
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past president of
the General Conference.
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You are Debra, his great, great,
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how many greats you got on that?
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Granddaughter.
Great, great granddaughter.
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Yeah. Great,
great granddaughter.
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Now when you figure,
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you've come from
such a illustrious family,
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that everything
will be a lot fine,
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life would be perfect,
there would be no trials,
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no tribulations, but Debra's
got quite a testimony and 3ABN
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figures in that testimony,
so let's go into her right now.
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You're born into
an Adventist home?
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Yes, absolutely.
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Dedicated that six weeks,
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my mom worked in the conference.
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She was a colporteur.
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What we call now
literature evangelist
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in the Central
California Conference.
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For all those
years, went to academy,
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went to colleges that
Adventist institutions.
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Got my nursing degree went on
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and then ended up
out of the church.
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Yeah, you cannot have a
more Adventisy background
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than you had.
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Adventist
schools, Adventist family,
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Adventist heritage,
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parents working for the church,
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but you did leave the
church, how many years?
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Little over 20
years, little over 20.
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Give us some, Debra,
of the flavor of your life
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during those 20 years.
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The kinds of things
that happened to you
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during those 20
years outside of the church
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and away from the Lord?
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Well, just about I think, just
about anything and everything
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that they tell
you, you shouldn't do...
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except for eating
meat, or on the Sabbath,
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I still couldn't
break the Sabbath.
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Now isn't that weird?
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I'd go shopping every
other day of the week,
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but not on Sabbath,
not on Friday night,
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not on Sabbath.
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Didn't eat meat, but I
got heavy into alcohol,
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I got into partying, oh,
that was the scene I was in.
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Got tattoos, went
running with the wild crowd.
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And...
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the night before
I was supposed to be
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or the day before
I was supposed to be
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I inducted into Wiccan coven,
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I had a very
serious car accident.
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I was hit by an 18-wheel truck,
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and laid up for
over eight months.
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So God kind of put a
halt or at least allowed
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the halt to come
to that lifestyle,
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the day before
you gonna actually
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join witchcraft in a formal way.
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Yes, absolutely. Wow.
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And, you know, I mean all
along I had up to that point,
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I had lost all of
my family members,
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all of them had died.
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I say I had a
little four pod animal
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who had been alive with
all of my family members.
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And she ended up dying
when I was flat in my back.
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So I had not
truly, nothing but God.
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And, but I didn't
realize it at that time.
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You know, when
you're flat on your back,
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the only place
you can look is up.
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Absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
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You got to look up.
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You know I
think it's interesting
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because I had
the same experience
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when I was out of the church,
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where I got
joined very, very early.
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But playing
basketball on the Sabbath,
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on a basketball scholarship,
but wouldn't eat pork,
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you know,
partying on Friday night
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but wouldn't drink,
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you know, you kind of put this
little false things in your,
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and they kind of give you
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a little bit of
a sense of security
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that you're not so
bad, but you really are.
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And you're
really out of the truth.
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So now, you end up flat
on your back for how long?
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It was a little
over eight months.
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Eight months and, you
know, through some of the things
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that I went through, they
weren't sure that I would ever
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return to help to
where I could go back to work
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or do anything, so.
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What was your mental
state, were you angry at God?
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Were you angry at yourself?
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What was going on in your head
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during eight months of bed rest?
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Well, I was depressed.
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And I think a
lot of it had to do
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with the pain that I was in
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'cause I was in a
lot of physical pain,
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but I refused to take drugs,
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because being a
mental health nurse,
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I've decided, you know,
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I've seen too
many people addicted.
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The first doctor that I went to
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wanted to give me norco and oxy,
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and all kinds of
stuff and I was like, man,
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if he had done
this a few months ago,
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maybe I would
have, I don't know,
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I don't think so, but, you know,
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who knows but at
that point I didn't.
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I didn't want to do that.
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So I was in a lot of pain.
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And lot of sleepless nights,
even being a night shift nurse,
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it got to the
point where I could nap
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a couple hours during
the day, but then I was up.
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And I'm telling you tormented.
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And it was during
one of those long nights,
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the only friend I had was a TV.
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And I had watched
everything on Netflix
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and everything else they had.
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And one night I
flipped it and I'm telling you,
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I tuned that TV on
and it flipped to 3ABN.
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Now that was a God thing,
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because I was not
watching that channel.
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Not at that time
even, he didn't even,
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I wasn't even to that point yet.
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But that night I
remember and the first thing
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that snapped on, it
was Danny Shelton and you.
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And you were talking about,
"You can never do anything
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where you can't
come back to God,
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nothing's so bad that
you can't come back to him."
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And I suspect 20 years out,
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that was the message
that you needed at that time.
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Yes.
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And the next one was
Pastor Bar, Stephen Bar,
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talking about
the unpardonable sin.
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That was the next
one I wanted to hear.
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And it went on from there,
because I watched everything
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David Asscherick did,
everything Ty Gibson did,
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I mean, I could not
get off that channel.
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Wow.
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And still now, I
don't have regular TV.
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I have my Roku box
and my Adventist channels.
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So I've gone totally
the other way, you know.
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Praise the Lord.
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Isn't it
interesting that God gives you
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what you need at
the time you needed.
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You didn't need you're gonna
burn in hell kind of message.
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You didn't need bad,
bad, bad kind of message.
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You needed someone to tell
you, Hey, God loves you still,
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you can't go too far,
you can't run too fast,
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and that's
precisely what God gave you.
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Yes.
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And, you know,
it's kind of like,
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like you said in your
sermons that I always use
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with my patients, it's like,
you know, we all got stuff.
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And, you know, Lord just
says surrender that stuff.
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Yes.
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And we keep on to hold on to it.
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And I used to keep
giving him the stuff.
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He put his basket
down and I put it all in,
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he take it and I'd say,
"Oh, but wait a minute."
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And I take one
thing out at a time,
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but finally when
I surrendered it all
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and still I struggle with that.
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But when I finally
surrendered it all, he says,
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"Now I can do the work." Amen.
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Now you told me the
Lord kind of played a little,
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I'll say game with you,
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'cause He wouldn't
let you go past 3ABN,
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He kind of stuck
you there, didn't He?
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He did.
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I could not, I could not go
past that and I'm telling you,
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I got so immersed into it.
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I was handwriting
recipes from Micheff Sisters.
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I mean everything that I
could get a hold up on 3ABN,
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I was sucking up.
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And I still have notes and
journals from your sermons,
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from Danny's messages
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and interviews and Cheri Peters.
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I mean, you guys were all
part of my recovering from sin
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and coming back.
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And I think we need to do a
12 step program for sinners,
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'cause wouldn't that be
good, we can go into the church
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and we could say
stand up and say, "Hi,
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my name is Debby
and I am a sinner."
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Wow.
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And then just
recover from there, right?
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Yeah. Praise
the Lord, wonderful.
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Now, give us a little of clue
into what you are doing here,
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you're in the
mental health section.
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You've got on your green,
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so that means
you're mental health girl,
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so what are you doing here?
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Okay, so what I'm
doing is after the patients
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have been completely triaged,
they may have gone through
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the main triage
here to determine
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what needs they have.
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And they've already seen
the psychologist, or therapist,
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or psychiatrist.
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They've already done the testing
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maybe for depression recovery.
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Then they come to me if
they are looking for local,
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no charge clinics,
mental health clinics
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to keep up with their care.
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Groups, housing, food, shelter,
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those kinds of things.
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We try to connect
them with a local church
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if we possibly can.
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Any kind of that,
any type of resources
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and then we always ask them
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if they're getting
any other services here,
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because we have other
services besides the medical
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and a dental and a vision.
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And I always ask the women,
did you get a massage today?
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Did you get a mani-pedis
'cause they've got it.
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What about your hair?
00:44:02.87\00:44:04.21
You know, because
they're usually the ones
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that are coming
through and they're feeling
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like they haven't
had that love, you know,
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and something else
that we always try to do
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is have prayer with them.
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Excellent.
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You know, and I
always ask, I said,
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"Do you mind if I pray for you."
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And they, "Oh, no."
00:44:23.26\00:44:24.99
you'd be surprised.
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They just want to be loved.
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Some of these psych
patients have not been loved on
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for a decade or more
many decades, not even touch.
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That's what I
wanted to talk you about
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because I've been
talking with other people here
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and saying that the smile,
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the hug, the pat on
the back is important
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as the medical treatment
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because of the mental
state that people come.
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Now as we all know mental health
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has this kind of little aura,
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this little
treatment and one of the things
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I see from you
is a Godly Spirit.
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And I think that is as important
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to the treatment
as the practical part
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of during recovery,
do you not think so?
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Well,
absolutely, I mean, you know,
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I guess it goes back
to my training as a child.
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And at Loma Linda that
it's mind, body and spirit,
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is it not?
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And if we take, we know that
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all illnesses start in the mind.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So if we could
get the mind healthy,
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we probably wouldn't
have the comorbidities
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of hypertension and diabetes,
and the rest of it, right?
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I mean we really wouldn't.
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But, yes, absolutely.
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And just really loving
on these people, you know,
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even if you just you
say, "Hi, how are you?
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My name is Debbi."
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I always make sure
that I shake their hand,
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when they come in,
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because like I said for decades,
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these people may have
never had anybody touch them,
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you know, so.
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Debbi, thank you so very much.
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Thank you so very
much for the story.
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And we are so pleased that 3ABN
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played a part in your recovery,
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and you are
coming back to the Lord.
00:45:57.49\00:45:58.82
And you're doing
a great work here,
00:45:58.85\00:46:00.19
and keep that smile
and that beautiful spirit.
00:46:00.22\00:46:02.02
I certainly will.
00:46:02.06\00:46:03.39
Thank you and so
very nice to meet you,
00:46:03.43\00:46:06.56
'cause you were part of it.
00:46:06.59\00:46:08.10
Praise the Lord. Thank you.
00:46:08.13\00:46:12.13
Again, so nice to know that
when you're flat on your back
00:46:12.17\00:46:14.60
and you're gonna only look up,
00:46:14.64\00:46:16.20
you could look
into the face of God.
00:46:16.24\00:46:17.57
And then God
provides you with something
00:46:17.61\00:46:19.47
that will bring you back to Him.
00:46:19.51\00:46:22.61
One of the things that
we've found that the various
00:46:22.64\00:46:25.48
in Your Best Pathways to
Health clinics and seminars,
00:46:25.51\00:46:30.15
is that lives that are
touched physically of times
00:46:30.19\00:46:35.36
have mental
ramifications that are positive
00:46:35.39\00:46:38.89
which opens the door for
the entrance of the gospel,
00:46:38.93\00:46:42.16
and spiritual things
and we see that continuum
00:46:42.20\00:46:45.47
happening over and over again.
00:46:45.50\00:46:49.50
I'm told that there were
some 1500 or so surgeries
00:46:49.54\00:46:52.54
that took place
during the course of this
00:46:52.57\00:46:54.94
Your Best Pathway
to Health, Los Angeles,
00:46:54.98\00:46:57.15
White Memorial Hospital,
00:46:57.18\00:46:58.51
Loma Linda Hospital,
Glendale Adventist Hospital.
00:46:58.55\00:47:01.48
Doctors
representing those institutions
00:47:01.52\00:47:03.49
are our good
friend Schubert Palmer
00:47:03.52\00:47:05.12
and other doctors
were doing surgeries
00:47:05.15\00:47:07.02
there and giving medical advice
00:47:07.06\00:47:09.46
along with the
other various services,
00:47:09.49\00:47:11.63
but there are some people
00:47:11.66\00:47:12.99
who came in with
chronic expressions of illness
00:47:13.03\00:47:17.97
that really had
dogged their lives.
00:47:18.00\00:47:19.93
There was young man
who we don't have time
00:47:19.97\00:47:21.30
to show on this one,
00:47:21.34\00:47:22.67
who had large keloids
on his ears to the point
00:47:22.70\00:47:25.34
that he always wore a Hil hoody,
00:47:25.37\00:47:26.81
he always had his ears covered
'cause of this big growth on
00:47:26.84\00:47:29.54
his ears and those
growths were taken off,
00:47:29.58\00:47:31.98
he could not
afford to have that done.
00:47:32.01\00:47:33.62
And he had always shied
away from health and wellness
00:47:33.65\00:47:37.49
and certainly Christians,
00:47:37.52\00:47:39.05
because he couldn't afford that.
00:47:39.09\00:47:40.42
And he found
Christians to be judgmental.
00:47:40.46\00:47:41.92
Well, when he came
to Your Best Pathway,
00:47:41.96\00:47:44.13
he was prayed
with, he was helped,
00:47:44.16\00:47:45.93
he was encouraged
00:47:45.96\00:47:47.30
and he had those
keloids taken off.
00:47:47.33\00:47:48.66
His life has been changed,
00:47:48.70\00:47:50.03
and now he is open to
the entrance of the gospel.
00:47:50.07\00:47:52.33
Our next video
is Carolina Herrera,
00:47:52.37\00:47:58.21
again a lovely young woman
who had some grows on her neck
00:47:58.24\00:48:02.84
and her chest
that were disfiguring,
00:48:02.88\00:48:05.75
that embarrassed her,
00:48:05.78\00:48:07.12
that she had to
have her whole life
00:48:07.15\00:48:09.08
she was dealing
with these things.
00:48:09.12\00:48:10.45
Well, she came to Your
Best Pathway to Health,
00:48:10.49\00:48:12.32
and these things
were taken care of
00:48:12.35\00:48:13.96
and when you see
the joy on her face
00:48:13.99\00:48:16.12
and the tears in her eyes,
00:48:16.16\00:48:17.89
you know that God
has done something very,
00:48:17.93\00:48:19.63
very special for her.
00:48:19.66\00:48:21.00
Well, her physical
life has been changed,
00:48:21.03\00:48:23.16
her mental outlook is changed
00:48:23.20\00:48:24.97
and now she is open to
the entrance of the gospel.
00:48:25.00\00:48:28.17
And that ladies and gentlemen,
is what it is all about.
00:48:28.20\00:48:31.81
We will watch this video,
then we go to our newsbreak,
00:48:31.84\00:48:34.84
then we'll come back,
00:48:34.88\00:48:36.21
and put a little bow on this
00:48:36.24\00:48:37.58
and wrap up this
particular broadcast.
00:48:37.61\00:48:42.55
Carolina came to us
I think, I don't know,
00:48:42.58\00:48:46.42
if she was referred
by another physician
00:48:46.45\00:48:47.99
or she came to the
door asking for dermatology.
00:48:48.02\00:48:50.56
We are actually
having laser services
00:48:50.59\00:48:53.29
on this pathway
to health registrar,
00:48:53.33\00:48:55.90
she was sent there.
00:48:55.93\00:48:57.27
I wasn't sure that
there is hope for her
00:48:57.30\00:48:59.23
to really get anything done.
00:48:59.27\00:49:00.80
But you know Dr. Prodonovic
has seen many patients,
00:49:00.84\00:49:04.07
he's done a lot of derm.
00:49:04.11\00:49:05.97
Take tattoo
removal along the way,
00:49:06.01\00:49:08.08
he's seen a lot of
skin problems and issues
00:49:08.11\00:49:09.91
for 20 years.
00:49:09.94\00:49:11.28
So I felt like
"Hey, there's something
00:49:11.31\00:49:14.02
that can happen with this case."
00:49:14.05\00:49:15.85
I thought I can
really handle some of it
00:49:15.88\00:49:18.32
but most of that
needed be surgically treated.
00:49:18.35\00:49:22.62
So I referred her
back to dermatology
00:49:22.66\00:49:26.49
or plastic surgery.
00:49:26.53\00:49:27.93
She had very, very thick lesions
00:49:27.96\00:49:30.77
that were kind of sticking out.
00:49:30.80\00:49:32.13
And this basically
what we call epidermis,
00:49:32.17\00:49:34.00
this is kind of like a
congenital hormone birthmark,
00:49:34.04\00:49:37.44
but they come in
different shapes, sizes, colors
00:49:37.47\00:49:40.18
and her is pretty much encompass
00:49:40.21\00:49:42.21
at the back of her neck,
00:49:42.24\00:49:43.58
the front and
coming down to her chest.
00:49:43.61\00:49:46.75
Since I was born I had it.
00:49:46.78\00:49:48.52
When I was born my mom
saw it, she was devastated.
00:49:48.55\00:49:54.02
She couldn't find a way
to take it off, you know,
00:49:54.06\00:49:57.39
I heard this on the radio
00:49:57.43\00:49:59.29
that they were
having the convention.
00:49:59.33\00:50:01.83
It was just the fact
00:50:01.86\00:50:04.03
that you could do
something about it,
00:50:04.07\00:50:07.00
try to take it off, you know,
that's what brought me herein.
00:50:07.04\00:50:10.27
You just have to
step by step, you know,
00:50:16.14\00:50:18.98
slowly just kind of
remove each and every one of it.
00:50:19.01\00:50:21.58
So we get really
down to the base of it
00:50:21.62\00:50:23.28
and then in
conjunction with laser
00:50:23.32\00:50:25.42
and other modalities,
00:50:25.45\00:50:26.79
we can be able to kind of
clear it almost to 100 percent.
00:50:26.82\00:50:30.93
I mean she
totally by coincidence
00:50:30.96\00:50:34.06
she turn on the radio,
00:50:34.10\00:50:35.43
she heard about it this morning,
00:50:35.46\00:50:37.27
she got to work, her
boss wasn't even there.
00:50:37.30\00:50:40.67
I can never say
no to that woman,
00:50:40.70\00:50:42.57
like I can never
tell you, you know, what,
00:50:42.60\00:50:44.14
I'm just not gonna come,
and never give her an excuse.
00:50:44.17\00:50:47.74
She wasn't there and
I was like "Oh, my God,
00:50:47.78\00:50:49.21
well, that makes it easier,"
00:50:49.24\00:50:50.58
you know, like
I'm just gonna go.
00:50:50.61\00:50:52.88
Like checked in for
10 minutes, checked out.
00:50:52.91\00:50:55.38
Drove all the way
from San Bernardino
00:50:55.42\00:50:56.92
which is around Loma
Linda area to here in traffic
00:50:56.95\00:51:00.06
to make here to
see what can be done,
00:51:00.09\00:51:02.16
and thus after, you know,
20 plus years of having them.
00:51:02.19\00:51:05.26
I never thought
like this morning
00:51:10.27\00:51:11.83
when I put on my shoes, I
was gonna come and, you know,
00:51:11.87\00:51:15.60
like my life has
just completely went 360,
00:51:15.64\00:51:18.77
like it's
overwhelming, you know,
00:51:18.81\00:51:22.38
like where other
people take for granted
00:51:22.41\00:51:26.05
and, you know, it's
like I'm going to have it,
00:51:26.08\00:51:28.18
now, I have a new life.
00:51:28.22\00:51:29.72
And just I'm really grateful
00:51:29.75\00:51:31.69
how everything
just fell in order.
00:51:31.72\00:51:33.99
It's just the--
00:51:34.02\00:51:35.36
to see the impact it had on
her emotionally for so long,
00:51:35.39\00:51:38.69
I mean it's all
coming out right now.
00:51:38.73\00:51:40.63
Everybody told me, you
know, you don't have hope
00:51:40.66\00:51:42.80
like we can't
help you, you know,
00:51:42.83\00:51:46.10
maybe even know
me right off the bat,
00:51:46.13\00:51:47.90
they're like yes, go,
here I'm and still is.
00:51:47.94\00:51:51.07
I just feel like
people are beyond angels,
00:51:51.11\00:51:53.88
they're really nice.
00:51:53.91\00:51:55.24
They are really nice.
00:51:55.28\00:51:57.15
To be able to
offer the services,
00:51:57.18\00:51:58.55
to be able to in additionally
pray with the patients.
00:51:58.58\00:52:02.58
And, you know, I don't
know what better work there is.
00:52:02.62\00:52:06.79
Thank you. No problem.
00:52:12.59\00:52:14.46
It's a team effort.
00:52:14.50\00:52:16.46
Oh, that's okay.
00:52:16.50\00:52:17.83
Come up and we'll show you.
00:52:17.87\00:52:19.20
I don't think I
would have made it...
00:52:19.23\00:52:24.04
Happy new life.
00:52:24.07\00:52:25.61
I wouldn't have the new life
00:52:25.64\00:52:27.21
but my smiles can
be bigger than ever,
00:52:27.24\00:52:30.01
you know, like I just picture
myself in my wedding dress,
00:52:30.05\00:52:35.15
I think being able to
have my hair, all these,
00:52:35.18\00:52:38.75
Amazing, you know,
being able to go to the beach
00:52:38.79\00:52:42.49
and just letting my
hair little go crazy,
00:52:42.52\00:52:44.83
you know, it's just being
able, it's a new freedom for me.
00:52:44.86\00:52:49.43
And I must too say that.
00:52:49.46\00:52:51.43
I'm very, very
happy, beyond everything
00:52:51.47\00:52:55.70
and I just think that was much,
you know, I'm very, very happy.
00:52:55.74\00:53:00.01
I feel like a new person.
00:53:00.04\00:53:02.48