I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray
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and thank you once
again for joining us
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and for sharing part
of your busy day with us.
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Thank you for
supporting the work that we do,
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as together we
are called to lift up
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the mighty and
mightiest name of Jesus.
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Today's program is
a very interesting one
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because we're
going to talk about
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helping those who
cannot help themselves,
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giving them a little leg up dare
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we say in the world
that does not always treat
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young children or
children or young people well
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when they're not supported
by mothers and fathers.
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There are those
who have been called
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to be mothers and
fathers to them and so,
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we're going to be talking about
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dealing with orphans and
some of the less fortunate,
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the ministry is
called Restore a Child,
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and the president is
here and this is Norma Nashed.
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Norma, good to have you here.
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Thank you. It's
good to meet you.
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Norma is one
person who we have found
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in the last
little bit has energy,
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and has a long track
record of serving the Lord
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and doing a great job.
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Literally, Norma,
all over the world.
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Restore a Child is
in how many countries?
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Fifteen countries.
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Fifteen countries,
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do you know them
off hand, the names?
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Yes. Okay.
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I mean, in Africa we have...
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We have Ethiopia, we have Congo,
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we have
Tanzania, we have Zimbabwe.
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That's four.
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And we have South Sudan.
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Hmm, five.
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Five maybe I'm forgetting.
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So one-third or a lot
of the work is in Africa.
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Because the need is great.
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The need is great there.
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But you've got some
other countries too.
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Yes, we have Indonesia.
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We have seven
orphanages in Indonesia,
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and Indonesia
has 18,000 islands.
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So we have to
cover each direction,
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and then we have Haiti.
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Haiti, yes.
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We have also
Jordan, which is my country.
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We help students there,
and then we have Ukraine,
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and in the USA also.
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In the USA, we help
the Navajo children.
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I see, I see.
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So you've got really
a far-flung enterprise.
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Is this your
baby, your invention?
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I know you're the president.
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Are you also the
founder of this ministry?
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Yes. Yeah.
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I'm the founder and...
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Founder and president. Yes.
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And you have a
staff of hundreds.
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I have staff of none.
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So you're carrying the
bulk of the load yourself.
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Yes, I do, except,
you know, in the office,
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you know, marketing,
fundraising, everything,
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I do writing.
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However, the technical
parts like web development,
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graphic design, and translation,
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we have United
Nations' online volunteers.
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Excellent.
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We have used hundreds
of them over the years.
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And so, they are
helping us, even right now,
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they are revamping and
modernizing our website.
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Wow. Wow. Praise the Lord.
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Give me the year that
the ministry got started?
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1999.
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1999, bless your heart.
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Now, let's go
back in before that,
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because as you, you
alluded to a moment ago,
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you're from Jordan.
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Yes.
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And let's get a little
flavor of life in Jordan,
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then I want to kind of bring you
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to the States into
Adventism and to this ministry.
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But were you born
into a Christian home?
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Yes.
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You were. Yes.
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Was there a lot of Christians
back in Jordan in those days?
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Yes, we have like
10 percent Christians
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and 90 percent are Muslims.
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Are Muslim.
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Did the Christian community,
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were they free to
practice their faith
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or was there any pressure
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against what
you're trying to do.
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Very much. You are free.
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Now, yes, yes.
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You know, Jordan
is a very friendly,
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people are very hospitable,
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and that we don't
have that animosity.
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So yes, we had, you know,
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I worked for 25
years in the Middle East,
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in different
countries in Kuwait, in Egypt,
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and in Jordan, and
I worked for Muslims.
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All of these and
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but they
respected me as a Christian.
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As a Christian, yes.
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Because I practiced my faith.
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Now Jordan is, was,
I say is under a king?
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Yes. You have a king?
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Yes.
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And so he pretty
much allows you to,
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I say you Christians to,
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to practice your faith
without any undue pressure.
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Amazing,
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because the late
King Hussein of Jordan.
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Yes.
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His nanny was an
Adventist from Switzerland,
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I mean, it is amazing,
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and her last name was Izink
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and then she
married an American Boyd,
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and then I met her,
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when I first came to
the States 30 years ago.
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And she gave me a
book that she had written
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about the king
for his 58th birthday.
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Birthday, praise the Lord.
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So you are an
Adventist growing up?
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Not at the beginning.
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My mother became an Adventist.
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Oh, I see.
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My father was never a churchman,
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he never went to church.
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I see, brothers and sisters?
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Yeah, I have four
sisters and two brothers.
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A big family.
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We are seven. Seven, yes.
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Seven children, my
mother became a widow,
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a blind widow
actually, she became blind.
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Yes.
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And we were...
she was penniless.
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In that seven, where are you?
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The second.
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Well, you're
kind in the top end.
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Yes.
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Are any of your brothers
and sisters in this country?
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Yes.
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Three of them are
here in the States.
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I see, I see. Yes.
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And three are back home.
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Back home, do you get
home ever to see them?
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I haven't been
there in 15 years,
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haven't been there.
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Wow.
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But that they come here.
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Yes, okay. So I see them.
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Okay, very good, very good.
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Tell me, Norma, how
Adventism came into your life?
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My mother, somebody saw
her in the market with a cross.
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Yes. Wearing a cross.
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So he asked her,
you are a Christian.
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Would you like to receive
Bible studies just like that,
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and she said,
immediately she said yes.
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All right, praise the Lord.
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Amazing, and so he started
giving her Bible studies,
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and she would invite
her friends, the neighbors
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and this is how
she became Adventist.
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Wow.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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So give us some sense
now, because your home,
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you said you
worked in the Middle East,
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was it in taking care of orphans
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or there some
other kind of work.
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No, I was like...
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now they call it
Administrative Assistant.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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But before it was
secretary. It was secretary.
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A glorified secretary.
A glorified secretary.
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I see, I see.
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Tell me a little bit about
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what brought you to
these United States?
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Yes.
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I was working at
that time for ten years
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for Royal Jordanian Airlines.
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And, I worked for the chairman,
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for the president
and chairman first.
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And I told him
that, if you know,
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I don't work on Saturdays.
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It's my, you know,
because of my belief.
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Yes.
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And he said, but
in the Middle East,
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at that time the
day off was only Friday.
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He said, "But you need
the job for your family.
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And if we don't
give you Saturday,
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you won't accept the job?"
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I said, "I'm sorry
sir, I will decline."
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And after two
days, I got a phone call,
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you're selected for the job.
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So you stand up for the Lord,
and the Lord stands up for you.
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So you're working now
for Royal Jordanian Airlines,
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and that brought you
to the United States.
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Yes, but after ten years,
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the chairman and president left.
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And the new man
was a military man,
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a very fanatic man, so
he won't give me Sabbath.
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Ah, I see, I see.
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So I decided
it's time to move on.
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No hesitation on that move?
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No.
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Sabbath was
conflict so you have...
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Yeah, no, no, yeah. Yeah.
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God will provide
and God provided.
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Indeed He did, so
where did you end up?
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I end up at the
General Conference,
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this was the
only job I had here.
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Yes.
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And I worked in
different departments,
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but the last one was
in the youth department
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and when I got cancer
after 13 years, I left my job.
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You left your job.
Wow. Praise the Lord.
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Was not so bad landing
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at the General
Conference for 13 years.
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You look well and healthy,
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how you're
doing with the cancer?
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I never went back to
the doctor, not once.
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Really? No.
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I decided, you
know, when I left my job,
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it means I had no
medical insurance.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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And I had no husband that
means I need to trust God.
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Yes.
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And I did the natural
way and God healed me.
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Praise God.
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Never went back, not
once. Never went back.
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No. In all these years.
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Not. Bless your heart.
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It's a testimony
you know how God can...
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It is a testimony.
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God can heal you. Yes.
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Can provide everything for you.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Now, what brothers and
sisters are here in this country
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if any with you?
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Yes, I have one who
works at the General Conference
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and then I have another
one who became a U.S. diplomat
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working for the State Department
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for 25 years, he retired.
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So you are diagnosed,
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you have
obviously beaten it off.
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Was it about that time
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that this ministry
was birthed in your heart?
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Tell me how this
concern for love for children
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and Restore a Child
actually got started.
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Yes.
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You know when I was
still in the Middle East,
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my father died,
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and one American missionary
family took me to their home.
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Yes.
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And they took care of me,
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they were like
my foster parents.
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And I went to school
and they had good education.
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And my sister is,
some of them did not
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even finish high
school, we were poor.
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I had to clean the
school when I was ten years old,
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walk six miles every day,
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and clean the school to
pay for my Christian education.
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It was so important. Yeah.
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So obviously
education is important to you,
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and you paid for on
your feet, and on your hands,
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and cleaning, and I
guess that's something
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that's kind of stayed
with you all of these years.
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Yes.
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You know, it's
how my mom told us,
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taught us that
whatever you do, God sees you.
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Do it unto God with all
your heart even cleaning,
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you know, whatever it is there
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and no water in
the bathrooms there,
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I did everything.
Oh, bless your heart.
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It was a tough job
but it builds character.
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Oh, yeah.
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And that's what we are
trying to do with our children,
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teach them the
dignity of manual labor.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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All right, you're
here, you're working at a GC,
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you have to quit that.
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Tell me how we actually got
the birth of Restore a Child?
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You know, I knew
when I got cancer,
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God would not give me
that disease to punish me
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because one year
earlier, I had committed,
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recommitted my
life completely to him.
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I had peace with
him, really, really I was,
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you know, I'm in
love with, with Jesus.
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I mean, I was at
peace, and then I get cancer.
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I said, "God has
something good coming out of it,
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I had no idea."
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Okay.
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So I did not pray
for healing not once,
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and as a woman, we cry.
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I didn't cry.
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I did nothing, I was happy.
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I was going to take
treatments and coming to work,
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and they say you are
smiling, you have cancer.
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I said, ''God is working.
He has something good coming."
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What's interesting is
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after you give
your life to Christ,
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you get
everything straight. Yes.
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You give your life to the Lord.
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Now, I get cancer you know,
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it's kind of bad
timing, but it didn't...
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Obviously, it
didn't destroy your world,
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it didn't devastate you. No. No.
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You took it in stride.
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I knew it. Yeah.
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I had a good
relationship with God.
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Praise the Lord.
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Something good will come out
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and that was the
birth of Restore a Child.
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So these are the days
when this idea occurred to you.
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Yes.
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Was it in
discussing with somebody else
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or you just remembered your own.
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Now, you didn't, we didn't
really go into this too much
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but, but you spent some time,
was it as an orphan yourself?
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Walk me through that experience?
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No, I mean, because
we had a good mother.
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Yes.
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My father was alcoholic.
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Wow! I see.
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And he never talked to me,
I mean he was absent father.
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So his death did not
affected me at least,
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but I had siblings
who were very young.
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I see, I see.
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My mother had to work very
hard then till she became blind
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and she couldn't work
anymore serving for people.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
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So obviously, it developed
in you a certain sensitivity
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for young kids who
cannot help themselves.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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So, okay, you got this
love, you got this history,
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you got this background.
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How does that
translate into a ministry?
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How did you take this
care, this concern you have,
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and then turn that
care into ministry?
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One thing I wish I can
explain how I do things.
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Yes.
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I don't have training.
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You know, I
didn't finish college
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because my mom said,
"Come back and help me."
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Yes.
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So I didn't have...
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I don't know
marketing, fundraising, writing,
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I know nothing about this.
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But I knew that
God will help me.
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Yes.
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So I started this one.
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I couldn't start overseas,
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when there is a
lot in Washington D.C.,
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African-American
poverty like so bad.
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Very much so.
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So I said, "I cannot
love children overseas
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when I can't love
the people around me."
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So I started
with Washington D.C.
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helping children and
then we grew from there,
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and it became a big mystery.
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And of course, I
knew, I had to have a board
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so we established a board.
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We had to have a CPA, so
I don't handle money at all,
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I don't sign
checks, I don't do anything.
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I do the work.
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So it is a ministry
that is very credible,
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it works with
integrity, sustain...
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I mean a
transparency and accountability.
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Yes. And that's our strength.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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And I don't take a salary.
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You do not? No, 16 years.
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Bless your
heart. Bless your heart.
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That's really a
testament to the dedication
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that you have for
this particular ministry.
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You had to surround
yourself with competent people
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and then you got to trust them.
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You know, that they're
doing, they're doing their job
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and evidently they're doing
what they're been called to do
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because the
ministry is flourishing.
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Yes.
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When did you have your
first... just what I want,
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your first
extension of this ministry
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outside of the United States.
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The first one was
in my country Jordan.
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So when I got
cancer, I went to...
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I went to see my country. Yes.
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I said, maybe I won't come back,
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so I went to the school.
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Feeling a little nostalgic. Yes.
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I went to the school
that I used to clean.
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And I saw them
sending two children home
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and the kids were crying.
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So I told them,
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"Why did you
send these kids home?
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They said, "Because they don't
have money to pay tuition."
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I said, "You punish
children because of poverty?"
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And so this is when I
decided I have to start helping.
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You have to do
something. Yes. Yeah.
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And so, and I may
have asked this moment ago.
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Your first one
was, was it in Jordan?
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The first...
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The first one was
before I even went,
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it was here in my backyard...
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Okay, I understand.
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In my backyard.
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Okay, very
good, very good, okay.
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So you're trying
to set this thing,
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was there anybody with
you to give you encouragement
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or to help you with
logistics, put it together
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or it just sort of
came out of your heart.
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Yes. Yeah.
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I had nobody.
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Wow. Wow. Wow.
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That is really something
to, to you know to know
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that it will spur, spur you on.
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But the good news is,
and we can add this that
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at this point in
time, the Adventist church
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is officially in your
corner given you help,
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given you aid,
given you encouragement.
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How do we
qualify your relationship
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now with the Adventist church
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'cause I know you're
an independent ministry?
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Yes.
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I mean just for
the last three years,
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I have some support
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from our board
members and our chairman.
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Praise the Lord.
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Who work for
North American Division
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and the General Conference,
00:18:01.48\00:18:03.45
in that way because they travel,
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so they save me
the time and expense.
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So they can be your arms
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and legs and
ears as well as hands,
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yeah, of the ministry
without you having to do
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but you do, do some traveling.
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No, I have to, yes. Yes. Yes.
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There's nobody to get around it.
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No, Africa.
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I go like at
least three four times
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I travel a year, sometimes more.
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What are you
seeking to accomplish
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with these
orphanages around the world.
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What were you seeking to do
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and I know you're
pulling kids off of the street,
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but in a big sense,
what are you trying to do?
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What I'm trying to do is,
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the first thing
when Jesus comes,
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there will be
two groups of people,
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one on His
right, one on His left.
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Yes.
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And what will
He judge them with?
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He doesn't tell them,
did you go and preach?
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He will tell them, I
was hungry, I was thirsty,
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I was naked, I was sick.
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These are the
areas we work with.
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I see.
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Yeah, these four areas to,
00:19:07.88\00:19:09.74
you know, fulfill
the command of Jesus.
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So those are the kinds
of things that drive you
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and all of this is being done
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with a grand staff of one person
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just still kind
of doing this on, on.
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Yes.
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I can't say on your own,
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because when the Lord
calls you to do something,
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you're not on your own. No.
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But you don't have
a big staff supporting
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be surprise what you need to do.
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Yes.
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I have people that I work
with in the different countries.
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They are mostly missionaries,
who live there give, you know,
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they give their life,
00:19:37.21\00:19:39.04
so I need people
that I can trust.
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Praise the Lord.
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And that kind of, that's what
this is one of our strengths.
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It's the right partnership,
the right people to work with.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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God had sent you
some, some good people
00:19:51.42\00:19:53.19
sounds like down
through the years.
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Amazing.
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Yeah. Yeah!
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Trust the people
because, you know,
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you could end up
losing your money.
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But you have to be
careful who you work with.
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Yes. Yes, very much so. Yes.
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I want to get
into the actual work
00:20:05.60\00:20:08.20
that you are doing
there and we want to go
00:20:08.24\00:20:10.64
to, to some of our pictures
and we've got some videos too.
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Before we get too
far down into this
00:20:14.38\00:20:16.31
because it's
hard to conceptualize
00:20:16.34\00:20:19.35
the scope of what
Norma is trying to do
00:20:19.38\00:20:21.85
without seeing some
representations of it.
00:20:21.88\00:20:26.59
So first of all
what's, what's up first.
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First is the school in Haiti.
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We built last year a school
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for elementary
school for children.
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And that these children
were on the streets literally,
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I had sent 75 boxes of clothing
and shoes and school supplies
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and they arrived
when I was there.
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And the school
had just finished,
00:20:46.94\00:20:49.24
was completed.
00:20:49.28\00:20:50.61
So I wanted these kids,
00:20:50.65\00:20:52.08
and I would take
them from the streets,
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I'll tell them, "You
want to go to school?"
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Yes. Yes.
00:20:54.92\00:20:56.25
So I take them, wash them,
00:20:56.28\00:20:57.79
put shoes on them
clothes and take them to school.
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Praise the Lord.
00:20:59.39\00:21:00.72
Do you find, Norma,
most over most of the world
00:21:00.76\00:21:02.82
young people
want to go to school,
00:21:02.86\00:21:04.19
they want that education.
00:21:04.23\00:21:05.99
You know, when it
comes to young people,
00:21:06.03\00:21:11.43
it is they want to study
00:21:11.47\00:21:12.83
but they don't
want to start again,
00:21:12.87\00:21:14.34
you know, from A.B.C.
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Yes.
00:21:15.74\00:21:17.07
So that's why we
are concentrating now
00:21:17.11\00:21:19.14
on building vocational
training schools for them.
00:21:19.17\00:21:22.68
We have elementary schools,
00:21:22.71\00:21:24.05
we have built two
three for little children
00:21:24.08\00:21:27.78
and, you know, they'll
grow up to high school with us,
00:21:27.82\00:21:31.09
but that boys on
the streets need care.
00:21:31.12\00:21:35.49
And that's what
we are doing now.
00:21:35.52\00:21:37.09
We have, this
year we are building
00:21:37.13\00:21:39.73
free vocational
training schools.
00:21:39.76\00:21:41.73
One was inaugurated
yesterday in Indonesia.
00:21:41.76\00:21:44.13
Oh, praise the Lord.
00:21:44.17\00:21:45.50
One in Haiti and
one in Argentina.
00:21:45.53\00:21:47.44
Excellent, excellent.
00:21:47.47\00:21:48.80
So you are
expanding even as we speak.
00:21:48.84\00:21:51.91
Yes. You're growing.
00:21:51.94\00:21:53.27
Let's go to some of the pictures
00:21:53.31\00:21:54.64
I could, I want to, I want
to get the folk to see a...
00:21:54.68\00:21:56.81
The video made. Yeah.
00:21:56.85\00:21:58.18
Oh, the video first.
00:21:58.21\00:21:59.55
Well, we got this one
up, let's go with this.
00:21:59.58\00:22:01.08
Now who is this? This
is, her name is Cynthia.
00:22:01.12\00:22:03.75
Cynthia.
00:22:03.79\00:22:05.12
And I found her in March,
00:22:05.15\00:22:06.65
when I went, when
I was in Ethiopia--
00:22:06.69\00:22:08.62
when I was in Haiti.
00:22:08.66\00:22:10.33
Yes.
00:22:10.36\00:22:11.69
And there I went to an orphanage
00:22:11.73\00:22:13.33
that we support,
00:22:13.36\00:22:14.73
and the guy who built it
is the guy in the picture.
00:22:14.76\00:22:17.77
He's an engineer from New York.
00:22:17.80\00:22:20.74
He built a school
00:22:20.77\00:22:22.10
and an orphanage
with his own money.
00:22:22.14\00:22:23.47
Wow.
00:22:23.51\00:22:24.84
So when I was there,
00:22:24.87\00:22:26.21
I saw this
little girl by herself
00:22:26.24\00:22:28.71
sitting in the garden.
00:22:28.74\00:22:30.31
I said, "Who is she?"
00:22:30.35\00:22:31.68
He told me, "I don't know her.
00:22:31.71\00:22:34.22
I don't know this girl."
00:22:34.25\00:22:35.62
So we had to ask
the mother "Who is she?"
00:22:35.65\00:22:38.55
And she said, "Her
mother was going to sell her
00:22:38.59\00:22:42.02
as a slave girl at age three."
00:22:42.06\00:22:44.46
Wow.
00:22:44.49\00:22:45.83
And eventually she
decided to abandon her.
00:22:45.86\00:22:47.63
She left her in the market
00:22:47.66\00:22:49.83
and the woman who
takes care of the orphanage.
00:22:49.86\00:22:53.20
She took her to
the home and she said,
00:22:53.23\00:22:56.20
"Next week, I'll take
her back to find her mother."
00:22:56.24\00:22:58.57
I said, "You
don't take it anywhere.
00:22:58.61\00:23:00.88
You keep her, we are
responsible for her."
00:23:00.91\00:23:03.21
So that's what
they call trafficking.
00:23:03.24\00:23:05.18
Yes, yes, yes.
00:23:05.21\00:23:06.55
People take
little kids and amazing--
00:23:06.58\00:23:09.35
And sell them into
all kinds of things.
00:23:09.38\00:23:11.05
So I guess
that's one of the things
00:23:11.09\00:23:12.42
that you're heading off is this,
00:23:12.45\00:23:13.79
this trafficking of children
in some of these countries.
00:23:13.82\00:23:16.96
And some of the
countries you've mentioned
00:23:16.99\00:23:19.06
have a high incidents of that.
00:23:19.09\00:23:21.30
Ethiopia is big
because when I was in Ethiopia,
00:23:21.33\00:23:25.30
I saved three
girls of trafficking
00:23:25.33\00:23:27.97
but two of them.
00:23:28.00\00:23:29.50
One man was
running with two girls.
00:23:29.54\00:23:31.61
So I told him, I stopped
him. I'm not afraid of him.
00:23:31.64\00:23:34.78
Who are these girls?
00:23:34.81\00:23:36.51
I was afraid, he said,
"Are they your daughters?"
00:23:36.54\00:23:39.55
He said, "No." Okay,
are they your relatives?
00:23:39.58\00:23:42.02
"No." So why
are you taking them?
00:23:42.05\00:23:44.62
He said, "They have nobody."
00:23:44.65\00:23:46.42
I said, "If they have
nobody, you take them?"
00:23:46.45\00:23:47.96
He said, "Yeah, if you
want them, you can have them."
00:23:47.99\00:23:49.89
I said, "Yeah, I want them."
00:23:49.92\00:23:51.69
So I took them to the orphanage,
00:23:51.73\00:23:53.70
it's that easy to
take girls and sell them.
00:23:53.73\00:23:57.27
No government,
nobody cares. Yes. Yes.
00:23:57.30\00:23:59.60
I don't think he expect you
to take him up on that offer.
00:23:59.63\00:24:03.17
He just lost part of
his, his meal ticket.
00:24:03.20\00:24:06.14
So is that where you
get most of your girls
00:24:06.17\00:24:09.81
or your boys and girls
just take them off the street.
00:24:09.84\00:24:12.25
Are they that easy to spot?
00:24:12.28\00:24:14.35
Not all of them
are like that. Yes.
00:24:14.38\00:24:15.82
Some of them are,
we hear about them,
00:24:15.85\00:24:17.99
some of them
just in the community,
00:24:18.02\00:24:19.99
where we work.
00:24:20.02\00:24:21.36
We just go and I
see kids without parents
00:24:21.39\00:24:23.76
or even with a mother
00:24:23.79\00:24:25.69
or with a father
but not a mother.
00:24:25.73\00:24:28.13
So they're not all
orphans they're poor.
00:24:28.16\00:24:31.70
So we have to feed
them and provide for them,
00:24:31.73\00:24:35.24
but the biggest thing is
00:24:35.27\00:24:37.07
if we are not concerned
about their spirituality
00:24:37.11\00:24:41.34
and their
eternity, we are losing.
00:24:41.38\00:24:44.58
It's not the food.
00:24:44.61\00:24:46.75
It's not just
water and clothing.
00:24:46.78\00:24:49.98
We teach them about God. Yes.
00:24:50.02\00:24:52.05
We bring them
to know Jesus. Yes.
00:24:52.09\00:24:54.46
Walk me through,
Norma, if you will
00:24:54.49\00:24:56.36
how you view religion,
00:24:56.39\00:24:58.69
the love of Christ
into the daily routine
00:24:58.73\00:25:01.03
because you've got school,
00:25:01.06\00:25:02.40
you've got
teaching that has to go on,
00:25:02.43\00:25:03.77
and those kinds of things.
00:25:03.80\00:25:05.87
How do you view
Jesus into that whole mix?
00:25:05.90\00:25:09.30
Yeah, from the first, you know,
00:25:09.34\00:25:11.17
at first we
start like in a school,
00:25:11.21\00:25:13.61
the first thing we teach
is for them to sing and pray.
00:25:13.64\00:25:17.25
The first thing in the
morning, even, while...
00:25:17.28\00:25:21.38
Yeah, sing and pray.
00:25:21.42\00:25:22.75
While they are doing,
00:25:22.78\00:25:24.19
there is raising of
flag after there is a flag.
00:25:24.22\00:25:27.29
Then they sing and pray
00:25:27.32\00:25:29.19
and then they
have Bible class too.
00:25:29.22\00:25:32.26
And so it's
amazing work. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:32.29\00:25:35.36
It is
00:25:35.40\00:25:36.73
and I think it prioritizes
thing so beautifully.
00:25:36.77\00:25:38.97
Before we get anything
moving, let's sing and pray,
00:25:39.00\00:25:42.40
and get the day started
off, started off correctly.
00:25:42.44\00:25:44.81
So it's easy, and kids you
know are the most fertile soil.
00:25:44.84\00:25:49.28
Yes. They are receptive.
00:25:49.31\00:25:50.78
They are willing to
learn, so this is what--
00:25:50.81\00:25:53.28
If you want to,
00:25:53.31\00:25:54.72
in fact the lives of
the future of any country,
00:25:54.75\00:25:58.29
you start with the children.
00:25:58.32\00:25:59.65
Yes. Yes.
00:25:59.69\00:26:01.02
And if you train them well,
00:26:01.06\00:26:02.39
then you can have better future.
00:26:02.42\00:26:04.09
Better future, beautiful,
00:26:04.13\00:26:05.46
beautifully
said, beautifully said.
00:26:05.49\00:26:08.90
Let's look at some more stuff
'cause we got a bunch of them,
00:26:08.93\00:26:10.73
I want to get to
before it gets away from us.
00:26:10.77\00:26:13.20
What do we have coming up next?
00:26:13.23\00:26:14.70
We have the video of Haiti,
the school, if we can see it.
00:26:14.74\00:26:18.07
Okay, let's take a look.
00:26:18.11\00:26:19.67
Restore a Child is a
humanitarian organization.
00:26:31.05\00:26:36.02
Our main focus in
Haiti is education.
00:26:36.06\00:26:40.20
So we build the
elementary school
00:26:40.23\00:26:43.06
which is growing
every year by one class.
00:26:43.10\00:26:45.97
Now, next year
we'll have grade five
00:26:46.00\00:26:48.47
and then grade six and
so on till high school.
00:26:48.50\00:26:50.91
And, but our focus on orphans
00:26:56.14\00:26:58.68
because children
who do not have parents
00:26:58.71\00:27:02.05
have any for
somebody to care for them.
00:27:02.08\00:27:04.52
They cannot be on the
streets, they need to be fed,
00:27:04.55\00:27:07.92
they need to be clothed,
they need to go to school.
00:27:07.96\00:27:10.83
And that's what
our role is here for
00:27:10.86\00:27:14.20
to take care of the
children here in Haiti.
00:27:14.23\00:27:16.36
Jesus love the children.
00:27:21.34\00:27:23.91
Jesus said, "Let
the children come to me,
00:27:23.94\00:27:26.71
and forbid them not."
00:27:26.74\00:27:28.64
And so Jesus opened
His arms for the children.
00:27:28.68\00:27:31.55
He blessed them,
and He loved them,
00:27:31.58\00:27:34.08
and you are not to do
any less than Jesus did.
00:27:34.12\00:27:36.69
Those young people look so nice
and bright in their uniforms.
00:28:19.63\00:28:24.27
And you have to provide
those uniforms also, don't you?
00:28:24.30\00:28:27.27
Yes, for the most
poor and the orphans we do.
00:28:27.30\00:28:31.84
Tell me what Do Fast is because
our next roll is Do Fast.
00:28:31.87\00:28:36.04
What is that?
00:28:36.08\00:28:37.51
It's a new
movement that I started,
00:28:37.55\00:28:40.82
and started called, "DO"
00:28:40.85\00:28:44.55
DO, stands for Defend Orphans.
00:28:44.59\00:28:48.86
It's taken from
Isaiah 1:17 it says,
00:28:48.89\00:28:51.96
"Do good, seek
justice, defend orphans."
00:28:51.99\00:28:56.87
So it's in the Bible and
then in the Psalms 82 also.
00:28:56.90\00:29:00.60
So and then
00:29:00.64\00:29:02.10
because there are so many
hungry children in the world,
00:29:02.14\00:29:06.88
6 million children
die of hunger every year.
00:29:06.91\00:29:12.45
Wow.
00:29:12.48\00:29:13.82
So we combined the Do
Fast, the do with the fast
00:29:13.85\00:29:17.39
according to Isaiah 58.
00:29:17.42\00:29:19.62
What does Isaiah 58 say?
00:29:19.65\00:29:23.06
"Is this the fast
that I have chosen."
00:29:23.09\00:29:24.86
Yes, yes, yes.
00:29:24.89\00:29:26.23
Isn't it to deal or share
your bread with the hungry?
00:29:26.26\00:29:29.73
Yes, yes. Very true.
00:29:29.76\00:29:31.10
And bring the poor to your house
00:29:31.13\00:29:32.97
and if you see a
naked that you clothe him.
00:29:33.00\00:29:36.60
So this is what
Do Fast is about.
00:29:36.64\00:29:39.94
It's what God wants
you to do for orphans
00:29:39.97\00:29:43.95
and for a true fast.
00:29:43.98\00:29:45.98
It's not about
fasting, you know,
00:29:46.01\00:29:48.12
because the
beginning of Isaiah 58 it says,
00:29:48.15\00:29:51.65
"We pray, we
pray, we do everything,
00:29:51.69\00:29:54.19
and you don't hear us."
00:29:54.22\00:29:55.92
He said, "This
is not what I want,
00:29:55.96\00:29:58.26
take care of the
hungry and the naked."
00:29:58.29\00:30:01.06
Yes, as you do I'll hear. Yes.
00:30:01.10\00:30:03.23
All right, this is what we do.
Let's take a look at Do Fast.
00:30:03.26\00:30:06.13
Tonight, one in seven
people will go to bed hungry.
00:30:13.38\00:30:17.78
Hunger kills more
than AIDS, malaria
00:30:17.81\00:30:20.15
and tuberculosis combined.
00:30:20.18\00:30:22.55
One third of the world is
starving to death right now.
00:30:22.58\00:30:25.99
Every 13 seconds, a
child dies of malnutrition,
00:30:26.02\00:30:28.82
that's 6 million
dead children a year.
00:30:28.86\00:30:31.73
But you can make a difference.
00:30:31.76\00:30:33.70
The second
Saturday, in November,
00:30:33.73\00:30:35.60
be part of the 24-Hour Do Fast.
00:30:35.63\00:30:38.40
During the Do Fast,
00:30:38.43\00:30:39.77
people across the world
would be reading Isaiah 58,
00:30:39.80\00:30:42.40
and praying for God's blessing.
00:30:42.44\00:30:44.47
God's promise is simple,
"Ask and it'll be given to you,
00:30:44.51\00:30:48.04
seek and you will find, knock
00:30:48.08\00:30:49.68
and the door
will be open to you."
00:30:49.71\00:30:52.38
Let's ask God
to Restore a Child.
00:30:52.41\00:30:54.55
Visit restoreachild.org/dofast
00:30:54.58\00:30:57.85
and donate today.
00:30:57.89\00:31:00.06
So Do Fast then is a
program that has been adopted
00:31:00.09\00:31:03.22
by at least in
North American Division,
00:31:03.26\00:31:04.79
the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
00:31:04.83\00:31:06.16
Yes.
00:31:06.19\00:31:08.56
The education department. Yes.
00:31:08.60\00:31:10.30
The ministerial department
and the youth department
00:31:10.33\00:31:13.60
now partner with us
to promote this work
00:31:13.64\00:31:17.21
that is very important to God.
00:31:17.24\00:31:19.21
It's a biblical
mandate to take care of orphans
00:31:19.24\00:31:21.88
and we are not
doing it as a church.
00:31:21.91\00:31:25.71
I see, very, very good.
00:31:25.75\00:31:28.55
So your
ministry is not out there
00:31:28.58\00:31:31.65
sort of winging by
itself, you have the support,
00:31:31.69\00:31:33.76
the imprimatur of
the Adventist church.
00:31:33.79\00:31:36.93
Well, they don't
give me any money.
00:31:36.96\00:31:39.49
That support.
00:31:39.53\00:31:40.86
And that's why I say support,
I put support in quotes.
00:31:40.90\00:31:44.13
You had their goodwill. Yes.
00:31:44.17\00:31:46.00
You don't have
their cash just yet
00:31:46.03\00:31:47.37
but you do have their goodwill.
00:31:47.40\00:31:48.74
Yeah, and you can't
take goodwill to the bank.
00:31:48.77\00:31:50.81
And then, yeah... And
then the General Conference
00:31:50.84\00:31:53.07
just recently few months
ago, after 16 years of me
00:31:53.11\00:31:58.08
fighting for
kids for the orphans,
00:31:58.11\00:32:00.75
they have added orphans
to one of their ministries.
00:32:00.78\00:32:04.59
And yeah, they have asked me
00:32:04.62\00:32:05.99
to be a member
of that task force.
00:32:06.02\00:32:09.12
So we would make sure
it's not a lip service
00:32:09.16\00:32:12.63
that we will
take care of orphans.
00:32:12.66\00:32:14.86
Wow. Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:32:14.90\00:32:17.20
So that puts you
in good and rarified,
00:32:17.23\00:32:19.03
rarified company for
your work all around the world
00:32:19.07\00:32:23.54
to have at least
the encouragement
00:32:23.57\00:32:25.74
and the expertise
that the church can provide
00:32:25.77\00:32:28.84
as standing
beside you as you do this
00:32:28.88\00:32:30.55
because, you
don't have a big staff,
00:32:30.58\00:32:32.01
it's all on you.
00:32:32.05\00:32:33.38
Do you, are you obliged or
do you have to travel a lot,
00:32:33.42\00:32:36.52
you got orphanages
in 15-16 countries?
00:32:36.55\00:32:39.45
Do you get a chance
00:32:39.49\00:32:40.82
to go around
and make some visits
00:32:40.86\00:32:42.19
and see what's going on
in the various countries?
00:32:42.22\00:32:43.73
I have to, yes.
Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah.
00:32:43.76\00:32:46.70
But this is the only
way because I love kids.
00:32:46.73\00:32:49.80
I want to see my kids. Yes.
00:32:49.83\00:32:52.07
I want to see what
they're doing to them.
00:32:52.10\00:32:54.84
I want them to be
treated like my own kids.
00:32:54.87\00:32:57.07
Oh, praise the Lord.
00:32:57.11\00:32:58.44
I love kids and orphans
are gift to the heart of God,
00:32:58.47\00:33:02.24
He's the father
of the fatherless.
00:33:02.28\00:33:04.48
And I take my
calling very seriously.
00:33:04.51\00:33:08.05
Praise the Lord. Yeah.
00:33:08.08\00:33:09.42
So, I... Yeah,
I do travel. Yeah.
00:33:09.45\00:33:11.02
And you've been doing
this quite a little while.
00:33:11.05\00:33:12.72
16 years.
00:33:12.75\00:33:14.09
16 years, I just
tell the young lady
00:33:14.12\00:33:16.59
you got sometimes.
00:33:16.62\00:33:19.33
I'm not young, I'm very old.
00:33:19.36\00:33:22.96
Okay, we got some more videos,
00:33:23.00\00:33:24.93
let's talk about
what's coming up,
00:33:24.97\00:33:26.30
what else we have?
00:33:26.33\00:33:28.17
Then, you know, very important
00:33:28.20\00:33:33.31
is that sponsor,
sponsorship for these kids.
00:33:33.34\00:33:39.21
And there was, there is
actually Dr. Bruce Dyke.
00:33:39.25\00:33:45.62
He is the top U.S. economist
00:33:45.65\00:33:48.52
teachings at the
University of San Francisco.
00:33:48.56\00:33:52.69
He did research for
three years in six countries
00:33:52.73\00:33:56.43
with his three of
his doctorate students.
00:33:56.46\00:33:59.90
And they came up
with the research
00:33:59.93\00:34:01.80
that was published in
2013, and he said, it says,
00:34:01.84\00:34:08.28
"Do you want to
change the world?"
00:34:08.31\00:34:10.85
The title of the research. Yes.
00:34:10.88\00:34:12.81
Sponsor a child and he said,
00:34:12.85\00:34:16.48
"Hope" is a fuzzy
concept to economists
00:34:16.52\00:34:20.82
you know,
everything is concrete.
00:34:20.86\00:34:23.29
Yes, yes, yes. Let's hope.
00:34:23.32\00:34:24.99
But he said, "It is a
proven theory, and it works."
00:34:25.03\00:34:29.33
And he has
proved in his research
00:34:29.36\00:34:31.57
that 50 to 80 percent
of the sponsored children
00:34:31.60\00:34:37.94
are more likely to
finish college education.
00:34:37.97\00:34:41.48
Oh, wow.
00:34:41.51\00:34:42.84
Not even high school,
they do finish high school
00:34:42.88\00:34:44.35
but even college.
00:34:44.38\00:34:45.71
And 35 percent are more likely
to get a white collar job.
00:34:45.75\00:34:51.92
Well, that's a
great status. Yes.
00:34:51.95\00:34:53.29
And you know these
researchers were not Christians.
00:34:53.32\00:34:56.02
But they have found out
that not only they finish,
00:34:56.06\00:35:00.40
you know, university
00:35:00.43\00:35:02.00
but they become
community and church leaders.
00:35:02.03\00:35:06.37
Amen, amen.
00:35:06.40\00:35:07.74
It's amazing
what can, you can do
00:35:07.77\00:35:09.80
when you sponsor a child.
00:35:09.84\00:35:11.34
The dividend you get
back from sponsoring a child
00:35:11.37\00:35:15.38
pays long term if those,
00:35:15.41\00:35:18.18
if those numbers are
to be taken literally,
00:35:18.21\00:35:20.62
that's wonderful
return on your investment.
00:35:20.65\00:35:23.28
It is because, you
know your money in the bank.
00:35:23.32\00:35:26.49
They don't give you much now.
You know, the market can crash.
00:35:26.52\00:35:31.56
But when you invest
in lives of children,
00:35:31.59\00:35:34.66
you dividend is
100 percent for now
00:35:34.70\00:35:37.93
and eternity.
00:35:37.97\00:35:39.37
And you know children
are the future leaders.
00:35:39.40\00:35:42.84
If we invest in them. Yes.
00:35:42.87\00:35:44.67
We are doing ourselves good,
for the future of our country.
00:35:44.71\00:35:48.84
You're assuring the
stability of your country,
00:35:48.88\00:35:51.55
your church, all of those things
00:35:51.58\00:35:54.58
when you put money
into a young, a young life.
00:35:54.62\00:35:58.95
Now, we're
talking about young lives
00:35:58.99\00:36:00.32
and I hope I'm not
out of order picture wise
00:36:00.36\00:36:03.12
'cause I want to go
to some pictures we have
00:36:03.16\00:36:06.59
and what I'm thinking of you,
00:36:06.63\00:36:09.06
you've been in
this long enough now,
00:36:09.10\00:36:10.83
that you've seen graduates
come through your system
00:36:10.87\00:36:15.37
and then give
back into the system.
00:36:15.40\00:36:18.17
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:18.21\00:36:19.54
So walk me through some of that?
00:36:19.57\00:36:20.91
That's, great stuff.
00:36:20.94\00:36:22.28
Yes.
00:36:22.31\00:36:23.65
And in Indonesia,
00:36:23.68\00:36:25.31
we have 250 orphans
00:36:25.35\00:36:30.55
in seven homes.
00:36:30.59\00:36:33.42
And that there are
many success stories
00:36:33.46\00:36:36.76
but one of them
is called Marlena.
00:36:36.79\00:36:39.79
And Marlena, was
taken, this is her.
00:36:39.83\00:36:44.10
This is Marlena. Yes.
00:36:44.13\00:36:45.50
And she was taken
when she was 12 years old.
00:36:45.53\00:36:48.84
She was not going to school,
00:36:48.87\00:36:50.21
they had no
money to go to school
00:36:50.24\00:36:51.57
and she had no hope.
00:36:51.61\00:36:53.88
And in the
orphanage were we in the home
00:36:53.91\00:36:56.64
where we take care of kids.
00:36:56.68\00:36:59.01
She was a great girl,
and she was quite smart.
00:36:59.05\00:37:03.39
So we send them
when they are like that,
00:37:03.42\00:37:05.82
we send them to university.
In university in Indonesia now,
00:37:05.85\00:37:09.92
we have 40 students,
young people in university.
00:37:09.96\00:37:14.63
We have already
graduated 25 of them.
00:37:14.66\00:37:17.27
Oh. Wow. Yes.
00:37:17.30\00:37:18.87
And they are giving back,
00:37:18.90\00:37:20.24
Marlena is here in
the middle, in the middle.
00:37:20.27\00:37:23.10
In the middle.
00:37:23.14\00:37:24.47
Yeah, she graduated
last year as a math teacher.
00:37:24.51\00:37:27.38
There is Dr. Jonathan Kuntaraf,
00:37:27.41\00:37:29.08
the former
Sabbath school director
00:37:29.11\00:37:30.98
for the General Conference.
00:37:31.01\00:37:32.51
Just retired at the
past General Conference.
00:37:32.55\00:37:34.95
And I think Duane McKey
is now in that position,
00:37:34.98\00:37:39.55
but that's wonderful.
00:37:39.59\00:37:41.46
And he is our chairman
of the board for ten years.
00:37:41.49\00:37:44.29
I see, I see.
00:37:44.33\00:37:46.63
And there so Marlena,
I was there last year,
00:37:46.66\00:37:51.67
because we built a
home for 42 orphan girls.
00:37:51.70\00:37:56.10
And she had her
wedding when I was there.
00:37:56.14\00:37:59.71
So I took that picture of
her and her husband amazing,
00:37:59.74\00:38:04.15
both of them are math teachers.
00:38:04.18\00:38:06.51
And they teach in the school
00:38:06.55\00:38:08.32
next to one of our orphanages
in Kupang it's called.
00:38:08.35\00:38:13.02
And in Kupang,
00:38:13.05\00:38:14.49
not only they
teach but at the school
00:38:14.52\00:38:16.86
but they come to the orphanage
00:38:16.89\00:38:18.63
to tutor the kids
in math to give back.
00:38:18.66\00:38:21.76
How wonderful.
Yeah. It's amazing.
00:38:21.80\00:38:23.50
Now, was the groom, the
husband was he part of the,
00:38:23.53\00:38:26.74
the orphanage
system too or just Marlena.
00:38:26.77\00:38:29.00
No. It's Marlena. Just she,
00:38:29.04\00:38:30.37
but they're both
giving back into the system.
00:38:30.41\00:38:31.74
Yes.
00:38:31.77\00:38:33.11
Praise the Lord for that,
that must make you feel so good
00:38:33.14\00:38:35.41
to have one that you
plucked from the streets
00:38:35.44\00:38:38.45
as it were, trained
her, sent her to school,
00:38:38.48\00:38:40.85
and now she's giving
back to the institution.
00:38:40.88\00:38:43.18
We have many like that.
00:38:43.22\00:38:44.55
Is that so? Yes, yes.
00:38:44.59\00:38:45.92
And we have one, I
don't have his picture.
00:38:45.95\00:38:49.12
His name is Chava, from Congo
00:38:49.16\00:38:52.03
also helped him going
through middle school,
00:38:52.06\00:38:54.63
high school and then university.
00:38:54.66\00:38:57.37
He's going to
graduate as a medical doctor
00:38:57.40\00:38:59.60
in June 2016.
00:38:59.63\00:39:02.54
Praise the Lord.
00:39:02.57\00:39:03.91
Yes, you know what--
00:39:03.94\00:39:05.27
Great story.
00:39:05.31\00:39:06.64
What hope do they have if
we leave them on the streets?
00:39:06.68\00:39:09.08
What option, I mean,
00:39:09.11\00:39:10.45
they are on the streets
targets to terrorists...
00:39:10.48\00:39:13.01
Yes, yes. And abuse and crime.
00:39:13.05\00:39:15.28
And crime, yes.
00:39:15.32\00:39:16.65
So when you
take, if we, America,
00:39:16.69\00:39:18.09
if we would go
and help children,
00:39:18.12\00:39:20.06
take them off the streets.
00:39:20.09\00:39:21.59
We will be safer. Wow.
00:39:21.62\00:39:23.29
So these terrorists
cannot export criminals
00:39:23.32\00:39:26.66
to this country.
00:39:26.70\00:39:28.03
Yes, yes, yes.
Excellent, excellent.
00:39:28.06\00:39:29.66
Do you have any idea
00:39:29.70\00:39:32.40
because your
enterprise is so far flung.
00:39:32.43\00:39:35.10
At this point in time how many
young people you have graduated
00:39:35.14\00:39:39.51
who've gone through the
system that you graduated?
00:39:39.54\00:39:43.01
We have maybe at least 200,
00:39:43.04\00:39:47.78
200 but from
university 25 finished already.
00:39:47.82\00:39:52.19
Yes.
00:39:52.22\00:39:53.56
And that 40, are in
university right now.
00:39:53.59\00:39:56.93
You know, our
children are very small,
00:39:56.96\00:39:59.33
so it takes a long time
for them to get to college.
00:39:59.36\00:40:01.96
Yeah, and you
also get it, you got,
00:40:02.00\00:40:03.57
that's an investment of
at least for a generation
00:40:03.60\00:40:06.33
or 20 years maybe,
00:40:06.37\00:40:07.70
because if you're picking up
00:40:07.74\00:40:09.07
three four five six
year olds off the streets.
00:40:09.10\00:40:10.97
Be a long time before, you
get them into, into school.
00:40:11.01\00:40:13.74
But I suspect you
would agree that every year,
00:40:13.78\00:40:15.68
that you keep them is worth it
00:40:15.71\00:40:17.25
because that's one year
less there on the streets
00:40:17.28\00:40:20.32
and being pray to some
of the things that go on.
00:40:20.35\00:40:23.28
You know, on that when a child
00:40:23.32\00:40:24.65
just living on
the street like that.
00:40:24.69\00:40:26.02
Yes, and being
trained the right way
00:40:26.05\00:40:27.59
to be with, with character
00:40:27.62\00:40:30.43
and with values and to
give back to their communities.
00:40:30.46\00:40:34.13
Very much so. That
takes a lot, you know,
00:40:34.16\00:40:35.80
it takes a
village to raise a child.
00:40:35.83\00:40:37.97
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:38.00\00:40:39.33
Without pointing fingers
00:40:39.37\00:40:40.70
at any
particular country, Norma,
00:40:40.74\00:40:42.07
at some of these
countries I guess the idea
00:40:42.10\00:40:44.74
that young people are going
to be dragged into the business
00:40:44.77\00:40:47.44
if they don't
have any other people
00:40:47.48\00:40:49.31
or things to support them.
00:40:49.34\00:40:50.81
That's pretty
much accepted treatment
00:40:50.85\00:40:53.05
isn't it, that young
people who live on the street
00:40:53.08\00:40:57.09
are gonna get abused,
00:40:57.12\00:40:58.82
they're gonna get trafficked,
they're gonna be used
00:40:58.85\00:41:01.09
unless someone puts their
hand in and pulls them out
00:41:01.12\00:41:04.89
the end is not really
too positive as a rule.
00:41:04.93\00:41:07.06
No. No.
00:41:07.10\00:41:08.43
Because there is no hope. Yeah.
00:41:08.46\00:41:10.07
There's no hope you
know poverty creates
00:41:10.10\00:41:12.83
low self-esteem with children.
00:41:12.87\00:41:15.30
Low aspirations, they
have no, nothing to live for.
00:41:15.34\00:41:18.67
But when you sponsor them,
when you take care of them,
00:41:18.71\00:41:21.41
then they have dreams and
they have worth, self-worth
00:41:21.44\00:41:27.08
and dignity and
they do much better.
00:41:27.12\00:41:30.02
So it is, it is a must,
00:41:30.05\00:41:32.25
that we take care of children
00:41:32.29\00:41:35.82
poor and orphans.
00:41:35.86\00:41:37.19
And orphans,
yes, yes very much so.
00:41:37.23\00:41:39.53
In the countries
where you're working,
00:41:39.56\00:41:41.10
you're in 15
different countries.
00:41:41.13\00:41:42.83
Is there any official
recognition by the government,
00:41:42.86\00:41:45.90
is there any aid
by the government,
00:41:45.93\00:41:47.80
encouragement by the government,
00:41:47.84\00:41:49.40
does a government
do anything to help you
00:41:49.44\00:41:51.54
or they kind of hindering you.
00:41:51.57\00:41:53.78
What's the general
relationship with the government
00:41:53.81\00:41:56.48
to what you're
doing in those countries?
00:41:56.51\00:41:58.21
You know, I don't
believe in governments.
00:41:58.25\00:42:02.05
And I don't want their help,
because of the restrictions.
00:42:02.08\00:42:08.02
I don't want them to tell me,
don't teach them Christianity.
00:42:08.06\00:42:11.39
I see, I see.
00:42:11.43\00:42:12.76
Yes, and so we need
to be self-sufficient,
00:42:12.79\00:42:16.93
self-supporting,
00:42:16.97\00:42:18.73
so that's why we depend
on the donations of people
00:42:18.77\00:42:23.41
like your viewers.
00:42:23.44\00:42:25.47
These are the people who make us
00:42:25.51\00:42:27.51
continue to help more children,
take them off the street,
00:42:27.54\00:42:32.31
give them a
future and then you know.
00:42:32.35\00:42:36.12
You know, when I
said, when I heard you say,
00:42:36.15\00:42:38.45
"I don't like government,"
00:42:38.49\00:42:39.82
you scared me a
little bit there.
00:42:39.85\00:42:41.19
But I understand
what you're saying,
00:42:41.22\00:42:42.82
that with government assistance
comes government control.
00:42:42.86\00:42:46.39
It's almost, almost
impossible to get around
00:42:46.43\00:42:49.06
that if the government of
country X gives you money,
00:42:49.10\00:42:52.80
that government's
going to want to tell you
00:42:52.83\00:42:54.70
what to do with that money,
00:42:54.74\00:42:56.07
because it's my
money I'm giving you,
00:42:56.10\00:42:57.44
and they
probably want to tell you,
00:42:57.47\00:42:58.91
what to do with
the rest of your money.
00:42:58.94\00:43:00.51
So if you can sustain yourself,
00:43:00.54\00:43:02.81
and not have to put your
hand out to the government,
00:43:02.84\00:43:05.01
it gives you freedom,
00:43:05.05\00:43:07.02
one to teach the
gospel to these young people.
00:43:07.05\00:43:09.88
And to do so in
an unencumbered way,
00:43:09.92\00:43:12.59
way and obviously, it's working
00:43:12.62\00:43:14.09
because you're getting
the results that you desire.
00:43:14.12\00:43:17.99
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:18.03\00:43:19.36
How do you recruit people
00:43:19.39\00:43:20.73
to assist you in
these various facilities
00:43:20.76\00:43:23.47
in the various countries?
00:43:23.50\00:43:25.53
You know, I go myself
and scout the country.
00:43:25.57\00:43:32.17
You go and check
00:43:32.21\00:43:34.11
and then I have,
we have a big board,
00:43:34.14\00:43:36.61
and very strong
board and they travel,
00:43:36.64\00:43:39.81
so they recommend
some certain people,
00:43:39.85\00:43:42.68
some areas where I can
visit and see for myself,
00:43:42.72\00:43:45.79
the kids and the need.
00:43:45.82\00:43:47.22
And then we go from there.
00:43:47.26\00:43:49.42
Very, very good. Very good.
00:43:49.46\00:43:51.46
You have done so very, very much
00:43:51.49\00:43:54.00
now that flash telling me
00:43:54.03\00:43:55.36
before our time
gets away from us.
00:43:55.40\00:43:56.80
We've got one more
video of Indonesia I think.
00:43:56.83\00:43:59.50
Yes. Yeah.
00:43:59.53\00:44:00.87
And I want to ask you
about, because Indonesia is,
00:44:00.90\00:44:02.87
if it is not the largest,
00:44:02.90\00:44:04.31
this is the second largest
Muslim country in the world.
00:44:04.34\00:44:07.08
And yet you seem
to be doing well.
00:44:07.11\00:44:08.51
So let's go to this video,
00:44:08.54\00:44:09.88
then we'll come and talk
about Indonesia a little bit.
00:44:09.91\00:44:11.35
Okay.
00:44:11.38\00:44:13.28
There has been many calamities
00:44:13.31\00:44:14.85
that come to
Indonesia from place to place
00:44:14.88\00:44:18.39
and there are so
many orphans left behind
00:44:18.42\00:44:21.59
as the result of
those calamities.
00:44:21.62\00:44:23.83
You may have heard
about the tsunami in Aceh
00:44:23.86\00:44:27.30
or the earthquake in
many places in Indonesia
00:44:27.33\00:44:30.13
or volcanic eruption
and also many other things
00:44:30.17\00:44:34.54
which includes also
the religious persecution.
00:44:34.57\00:44:37.57
As the result of
those calamities,
00:44:37.61\00:44:40.51
we feel the need
of having orphanages
00:44:40.54\00:44:43.58
to take care of those orphans.
00:44:43.61\00:44:45.81
For that reason we started
with the orphanage in Medan.
00:44:45.85\00:44:50.69
After that we have
the second orphanage
00:44:50.72\00:44:53.09
in Singkawang,
another orphanage in Kupang,
00:44:53.12\00:44:57.16
another orphanage in Kawangkoan,
00:44:57.19\00:45:00.23
north Sulawesi,
another orphanage in Jakarta
00:45:00.26\00:45:05.43
and also in Purwodadi.
00:45:05.47\00:45:07.97
And now I'm in the complex
of the orphanage in Kawangkoan.
00:45:08.00\00:45:13.14
I'm happy to see so
many children who are here
00:45:13.17\00:45:16.38
that has been
taken care of by Yapi.
00:45:16.41\00:45:22.15
This is an organization
that try to show our concern
00:45:22.18\00:45:26.29
to the people in Indonesia
00:45:26.32\00:45:29.16
and from the
beginning of our work,
00:45:29.19\00:45:31.46
we have been working
together with Restore a Child.
00:45:31.49\00:45:36.53
I really
appreciate the activities
00:45:36.56\00:45:38.43
which has been
led by Norma Nashed,
00:45:38.47\00:45:41.97
the president of Restore a Child
00:45:42.00\00:45:44.97
that always gives
support or full support
00:45:45.01\00:45:47.98
for the operation of
our orphanages in Indonesia.
00:45:48.01\00:45:52.91
And we thank Dr.
Jonathan Kuntaraf for that,
00:45:58.02\00:46:01.22
that very informative
video, and your work.
00:46:01.26\00:46:04.53
Indonesia, very
large Muslim country,
00:46:04.56\00:46:06.80
you seem to be
working there well,
00:46:06.83\00:46:08.66
no interference
from the government.
00:46:08.70\00:46:11.03
No, because in Indonesia
00:46:11.07\00:46:13.07
although 90 percent of
the people are Muslims,
00:46:13.10\00:46:17.81
yet, the government is secular.
00:46:17.84\00:46:23.31
They don't
interfere. Okay, okay.
00:46:23.35\00:46:25.78
So that's why, I mean
there is sometimes prejudice
00:46:25.81\00:46:29.72
in some remote areas and
so on but not really obvious.
00:46:29.75\00:46:34.72
You know, like
I went to Jakarta,
00:46:34.76\00:46:37.23
I hardly saw a
church, every few,
00:46:37.26\00:46:41.36
you know blocks is a mosque,
is a mosque, is a mosque.
00:46:41.40\00:46:44.83
Then I went to Medan
00:46:44.87\00:46:46.33
where we built an
orphanage last year
00:46:46.37\00:46:48.84
and now we're building a
vocational training school
00:46:48.87\00:46:53.44
and every block or two,
00:46:53.48\00:46:56.44
really not even a
block is a church.
00:46:56.48\00:46:58.65
Is a church? Church, church.
00:46:58.68\00:47:00.88
That is amazing.
00:47:00.92\00:47:02.78
That's in Manado, Manado,
it's mostly a Christian area.
00:47:02.82\00:47:07.79
You know it's interesting
'cause I've a good friend
00:47:07.82\00:47:09.96
who is from Iraq,
and she is a doctor,
00:47:09.99\00:47:13.36
and she was saying that back
in the days of Saddam Hussein,
00:47:13.40\00:47:17.83
he didn't really bother
the Christians too much,
00:47:17.87\00:47:20.44
he was not pushing
any kind of Islamic law.
00:47:20.47\00:47:25.84
If you wanted to serve the Lord
and did not bother the state,
00:47:25.87\00:47:29.08
the state will not bother you.
00:47:29.11\00:47:30.65
So it is good that in
some of these countries
00:47:30.68\00:47:32.91
where the government is
not so religious conscious,
00:47:32.95\00:47:36.79
they will allow other
groups to come and function
00:47:36.82\00:47:39.69
and benefit the country.
00:47:39.72\00:47:41.06
Yeah, freedom of
religion. Yes, yes.
00:47:41.09\00:47:43.56
And we praise the Lord for that.
00:47:43.59\00:47:44.99
Yes. Yeah, Yeah.
00:47:45.03\00:47:46.36
We got a couple more pictures.
00:47:46.39\00:47:47.73
Let's take a look at those,
00:47:47.76\00:47:49.10
I don't want our
time to slip away,
00:47:49.13\00:47:50.47
and then this is--
00:47:50.50\00:47:52.53
CFC. CFC?
00:47:52.57\00:47:54.24
This is a
Combined Federal Campaign.
00:47:54.27\00:47:58.14
It's a US Federal
government, a list of charities
00:47:58.17\00:48:03.04
and we are a member
of the list of charities.
00:48:03.08\00:48:06.55
So if any of your viewers
work for the federal government
00:48:06.58\00:48:10.69
or know people who work
for the federal government,
00:48:10.72\00:48:13.86
they can donate through
the CFC to Restore a Child.
00:48:13.89\00:48:17.89
Our name is there
but they have to donate
00:48:17.93\00:48:21.36
to our CFC ID
number which is 97739.
00:48:21.40\00:48:27.17
97739.
00:48:27.20\00:48:29.80
Excellent. Yes.
00:48:29.84\00:48:31.17
So I'm happy
00:48:31.21\00:48:32.54
because this gives us
some, an opportunity to grow.
00:48:32.57\00:48:36.01
There are 3.2 million employees
of the federal government.
00:48:36.04\00:48:40.15
I see. More than China.
00:48:40.18\00:48:41.95
Wow.
00:48:41.98\00:48:45.25
Well, we're gonna give
you some contact information
00:48:45.29\00:48:46.76
in just a little
bit to help with that
00:48:46.79\00:48:48.89
in case you don't want to
go with the government rule,
00:48:48.92\00:48:50.39
we gonna give you something
00:48:50.43\00:48:51.76
that is little bit
more direct in just a bit.
00:48:51.79\00:48:53.29
But I think we got
one or two more pictures.
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Yes, this is the
home we built last year
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for 42 orphan girls in Manado.
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And there you see
is 64 young people.
00:49:03.74\00:49:08.01
We have some small ones too
00:49:08.04\00:49:10.61
but the girls are 42
orphan girls that we built,
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they had no home.
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We built their home
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and then now we are building
a vocational training school
00:49:17.99\00:49:21.89
for the boys and girls
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who are not going to university.
00:49:23.93\00:49:26.03
So you realize
that there may be some
00:49:26.06\00:49:27.70
who just will not
ever make it to university.
00:49:27.73\00:49:30.27
They're gonna need some kind of,
00:49:30.30\00:49:31.63
something to support
themselves to able to do
00:49:31.67\00:49:33.80
and you are working on
that also, which is great.
00:49:33.84\00:49:35.17
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:49:35.20\00:49:36.54
Actually our
chairman Dr. Kuntaraf,
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he inaugurated
that building yesterday.
00:49:39.24\00:49:42.24
Excellent. In Manado.
00:49:42.28\00:49:43.98
And let me say this, you
built beautiful buildings.
00:49:44.01\00:49:46.25
You guys don't just slab
together a little something,
00:49:46.28\00:49:48.55
that's good looking stuff.
00:49:48.58\00:49:49.92
Yes. Yeah.
00:49:49.95\00:49:51.29
We invest in it 'cause you know
00:49:51.32\00:49:54.02
otherwise you will be
spending money on maintenance
00:49:54.06\00:49:56.52
and the repair all the time.
00:49:56.56\00:49:58.09
No, we build you
know, heavy duty,
00:49:58.13\00:50:02.40
great buildings that will last.
00:50:02.43\00:50:04.87
I want to do this
before we go to our newsbreak.
00:50:04.90\00:50:08.70
Robert and guys
in the control room,
00:50:08.74\00:50:10.37
if you can set this up for me,
00:50:10.41\00:50:11.74
I want to go to the
contact information now,
00:50:11.77\00:50:15.94
then we will come back,
we'll go to the newsbreak
00:50:15.98\00:50:17.78
come back and put
little bow on this,
00:50:17.81\00:50:19.15
but I want to go to
that contact information
00:50:19.18\00:50:20.72
because while it
still kind of hot.
00:50:20.75\00:50:23.18
If you want to make contact,
this is the great ministry
00:50:23.22\00:50:25.72
and you can see
it's kind of one man band
00:50:25.75\00:50:28.46
but it's one person
00:50:28.49\00:50:30.26
who is doing a
great work for the Lord
00:50:30.29\00:50:32.26
who is blessed with the Lord.
00:50:32.29\00:50:33.63
She says she's
getting old, I'm not buying.
00:50:33.66\00:50:36.43
She's young in a Lord.
00:50:36.46\00:50:37.80
But should you want to make
contact toward this ministry,
00:50:37.83\00:50:40.94
it's a good ministry
deserving your support,
00:50:40.97\00:50:43.64
Restore a Child.
00:50:43.67\00:50:45.01
This is Norman Nashed,
here's how you can make contact
00:50:45.04\00:50:47.31
and support the work
00:50:47.34\00:50:48.68
that she is doing
literally around the world.
00:50:48.71\00:50:53.48
Restore a Child provides
the basic needs for protection,
00:50:53.52\00:50:57.45
education and
healthcare of orphans
00:50:57.49\00:50:59.92
and underprivileged children.
00:50:59.95\00:51:02.02
If you would like to
support this ministry,
00:51:02.06\00:51:04.13
you can do so by writing them
00:51:04.16\00:51:05.96
at 11212 Cherry Hill Road 202
00:51:05.99\00:51:10.37
in Beltsville, Maryland 20705.
00:51:10.40\00:51:14.90
That's 11212
Cherry Hill Road 202,
00:51:14.94\00:51:19.17
Beltsville, Maryland 20705.
00:51:19.21\00:51:23.24
If you would like to
contact them by telephone,
00:51:23.28\00:51:25.61
you may call them at
area code 240-393-7712.
00:51:25.65\00:51:32.22
That's area code 240-393-7712.
00:51:32.25\00:51:38.33
Visit them online
at Restoreachild.org.
00:51:38.36\00:51:42.70
That's Restoreachild.org.
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