Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), Yvonne Lewis (Host), Magna Parks-Porterfield, Ron Porterfield
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016029A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:39 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:10 This is so weird because I'm sitting in this seat 01:13 and Danny is sitting in that seat, 01:15 my co-host, Danny Shelton, 01:17 the president and founder of 3ABN. 01:19 Hey, Dan! 01:21 It's good to be here and thank you for hosting. 01:22 What this really means is 01:24 it makes an easy day for me, right? 01:26 Because I just kind of sat and I'm here to support 01:28 and to help, but I'm telling you, 01:30 you've got some great guest today. 01:32 I know. 01:33 And in fact, we're gonna find out Magna is in, 01:35 not new to 3ABN, she's been here numerous times, 01:39 but let's introduce our guest. 01:41 We have Dr. Magna Parks-Porterfield with us, 01:45 and her husband, Ron Porterfield. 01:47 And they are just, they have an amazing testimony. 01:51 So I can't wait for our viewers to hear 01:53 and see what you guys are bringing. 01:55 And they're gonna bring us an update 01:57 about personal things in their lives, too, right? 01:59 Yes. 02:01 'Cause our viewers, they like to and I know, 02:02 there is couple of things they like, 02:04 one is they really like music. 02:05 So we haven't forgotten that, 02:06 we're gonna do music in just a moment. 02:08 But they love to know the background of people 02:11 who were here and rightfully so, right? 02:13 And so we love hearing, where have you, 02:16 what has happened since you were here last 3ABN, 02:19 and all that type of information. 02:21 Ron's probably here first time on 3ABN, right? 02:24 Second time. Second time. 02:26 So people get to know you a little better. 02:28 Yes. 02:29 And so we're gonna find out I think some good stuff. 02:31 You're gonna be happy when this program is over. 02:33 I believe you're gonna be drawn closer to Jesus. 02:36 Amen. 02:37 And speaking of getting to closer to Jesus, 02:39 music brings me to the photo. 02:41 I love good music. Yes. 02:43 So do as our viewers, I know you all do, too. 02:46 We have Scott Michael Bennett today, 02:48 and he is singing a song, song entitled "Come." 03:12 Come 03:14 When your heart is heavy laden 03:18 And you're feeling like the joy is fading, 03:24 Just come 03:29 Come, believing everything I've told you 03:35 'Cause here are arms that long to hold you 03:41 Just come 03:46 Come, and leave behind the mask you're hiding 03:53 Here is someone to confide in 03:57 I know what you've done 04:03 Come, and tell me everything you're hoping 04:10 The Father loves a heart that's open 04:15 Just come 04:20 I didn't die so you could try to save yourself 04:28 I know who you are, don't try to be somebody else 04:39 Come, believing everything I've told you 04:45 'Cause here are arms that long to hold you, 04:50 Lord, you come 04:55 Come, and come into the joy of living 05:02 Knowing that your sin's forgiven 05:07 Just come 05:13 I didn't die so you could try to save yourself 05:20 I know who you are 05:23 Don't try to be somebody else 05:32 Come, believing everything I've told you 05:39 Here are arms that long to hold you 05:43 Lord, you come 05:48 Come, and come into the joy of living 05:55 Knowing that your sin's forgiven 06:00 Just come. 06:19 Just come. 06:31 How beautiful, just come. Amen. 06:34 Just come. Amen. 06:35 Whatever you're dealing with, just come to the Lord, 06:38 He's got the solution for you, 06:40 and what an appropriate song, Danny, 06:42 for today's program on mental health. 06:44 Absolutely. 06:46 You know, it's really, what a blessing this is. 06:48 So Magna, Dr. Magna. 06:50 May I call you Magna? Oh, you may. 06:52 I should 'cause you're my friend 06:55 and it's just a full disclosure. 06:57 Amen. 06:58 Dr. Magna Parks, it's been such a blessing to me 07:01 and you have had quite a journey. 07:05 Your life has been full of ups and downs. 07:09 You know a lot of times, people look at 07:12 professional doctors 07:14 and all, they think, "Oh, they have it easy, 07:18 there's no problems here, there are no challenges." 07:22 But you've had some amazing challenges. 07:24 Yeah. 07:25 Let's hear a bit of your journey. 07:26 Tell us, where did you grow up? 07:28 I grew up in New York. 07:30 Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah, New York. 07:33 I remember your dad coming to our church and singing. 07:35 Oh, wow! Yes, yes. 07:37 See, I didn't know that, awesome. 07:38 So I grew up in New York, then, went off to Oakwood for college 07:42 and then, went to Ohio State to get my PhD 07:45 and toyed at Oakwood, private practice 07:47 and ended up leaving practice 07:50 'cause I wanted to do something different. 07:52 My first husband and I, and Danny, 07:54 you may remember my first husband now. 07:55 Absolutely. 07:57 We came here and did a program. 07:58 You played basketball. Yes, we did. 08:00 Yeah, we did. 08:01 And I lost him almost six years ago. 08:05 He was only 49 years old, sudden death 08:08 and the Lord allowed that to happen and it was a journey. 08:13 I also lost my brother a little after that 08:15 and then, my mother and two years ago, my father. 08:18 So had a lot of losses in my life. 08:22 The Lord has been faithful. 08:23 But then, I have some gains, too. 08:25 Yes. 08:26 Alright, let's find out about the gains. 08:28 Let's meet that gain here. 08:29 My husband, Ron. 08:31 Yes. 08:32 And, brother, Ron's been on "Dare to Dream" as well 08:34 'cause I interviewed, 08:36 I have actually interviewed both of you. 08:37 Yes. On "Dare to Dream." 08:38 But your testimony, brother, Ron, 08:41 has been phenomenal as well. 08:44 Give us little bit about you, about your background. 08:47 Well, it's been a quite a wonderful blessing 08:50 that the Lord has let me out of a life in Hollywood, acting, 08:56 being very involved in the new age for many years, 09:00 and out of Eastern mistresses or men. 09:02 Basically, I suppose 09:04 what the Bible would call "witchcraft." 09:06 So I was in that for many, many years, 09:09 and, you know, there are a lot of it, 09:12 I was so wrapped up in it. 09:15 Sun worship, moon worship, lots of things like that, 09:18 you know, it really had me gripped for a while. 09:21 Now you look like and sound like an intelligent person. 09:25 So how does intelligent people 09:27 get caught up in something like that? 09:29 When you talk about all this different types of worship, 09:32 did you have no kind of upbringing in Christianity 09:35 as a young person? 09:37 Did you have that? Did you leave it? 09:39 Did something-- 09:40 Were you looking for something, searching for something? 09:43 How did you get caught up for someone like me 09:46 and probably some of us? 09:47 That just sounds so like, "What did he just say?" 09:50 You know, how do you get caught up 09:52 in that kind of a journey? 09:55 Well, I would say, it could be easy 09:57 when you don't have a really good grasp of truth 10:00 because a enemy knows how to mix truth and error. 10:03 And we have to be aware that he's been studying humanity 10:06 for over 6,000 years. 10:08 So why I might be somewhat intelligent, 10:11 I'm no matter for the enemy without Christ. 10:14 I grew up going to, my family and I, 10:17 St. Mary's Catholic Church, and that's what I was used to, 10:20 and then as I went out to Hollywood, 10:22 I didn't have any particular affiliation for a while. 10:26 And as I was out there for few weeks, 10:28 I realized that well, you know, something is missing. 10:30 I thought, "Well, you know, 10:31 I need to go to start going to church again." 10:33 And I found church and I went to church and that one time, 10:36 it was something familiar and it felt good 10:38 and thought, "Yes, this is it," it felt good. 10:41 But then, I went back a second time 10:43 and I had this feeling of you know, something is missing. 10:47 So I didn't go to that church anymore. 10:50 A friend of mine started introducing me to this magazine 10:55 dealing with New Age faith. 10:58 So I started reading that, studying that, 11:01 having prayers or mediations, those types of things at home. 11:05 Eventually, that led to going to a church. 11:07 So I started going to this church, 11:09 hit the gong there, and incense, 11:12 and a lot of those types of things. 11:16 So I was very involved in that martial arts, all that. 11:20 And then one day, the main speaker was not there 11:23 because he was a world traveler, 11:25 but the speaker that they had up for that Sunday, 11:28 he sounded like a carbon copy of the main speaker, 11:32 that main Reverend that was always there. 11:35 And I hate the sound, "New Age,"' 11:36 but for that moment I, sort of, I was lifted up beyond myself, 11:40 out of myself that sounds very mysticism, 11:44 and it seemed so for the very first time, 11:47 I was able to look at everything very objectively. 11:50 And I started thinking, "What am I doing here?" 11:53 And so anyway, I stopped going to that church, 11:55 but I kept reading the readings for a while longer. 11:58 But it would take some pain in my life, too. 12:04 So it began to ask me, well, what is life all about? 12:08 I could see that, that was not truth, 12:11 and I began to question, what was life all about? 12:15 I had a friend who is an actor and he introduced me this 12:20 Seventh-day Adventist Church, 12:21 and gotten up, led step by step. 12:24 So you were looking for truth? I was. 12:26 You just had no idea what it was 12:28 so whatever somebody introduced to you, 12:30 you said I'll try it, you go to it. 12:33 But it's very encouraging because what you telling us is 12:36 since God created us, we each and every one of us 12:40 have a humming device and it says, we are strangers, 12:43 just so our journeys here 12:45 and we really never satisfied till we meet Jesus, 12:48 and eventually, our home with him forever. 12:51 So anyone who is looking for truth, 12:53 no matter where you are today, if you're looking for truth, 12:57 you're searching for truth. 12:58 Bible says, "If you search from me with all your heart, 13:00 basically, Jesus is always there," 13:02 but we will find him. 13:04 So you're encouraging us today and our viewers, 13:06 no matter where they are in the walk, 13:08 maybe they are dissatisfied with this in life, 13:11 or whatever they are doing, 13:12 they have all these things I say, "I'm just confused, 13:15 I don't know why I'm here." 13:17 There is purpose for everyone's life, 13:18 but if you purpose in your heart, 13:20 I want to find truth, 13:21 then God will lead you into all truth. 13:24 Amen. 13:25 So you had a person who introduced you 13:27 to the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 13:29 When you went for the first time, did you think, 13:31 "Here I am again at something different," 13:34 or did you catch on to that quickly and say, "You know, 13:37 I think this is where the Lord wants me." 13:39 Well, I went for a short while, 13:41 but I was still reading some of those same old books. 13:44 And I read one book 13:46 that I don't even want to mention the title of that book 13:48 and that turned me away. 13:49 So I didn't believe in-- 13:51 I was at a point that I wasn't sure 13:53 that I believed in God anymore. 13:55 At the very least I know 13:56 I didn't believe in the God of Israel. 13:58 And so that went on for few years, 14:01 and then it came to that point, that very painful situation 14:04 that I started asking, "What is life all about?" 14:07 And I started going through and reading those books again, 14:09 and trying to find an answer, 14:11 and till it came to one Friday evening, 14:13 I called my friend who had introduced me years ago, 14:17 and I asked him so many questions, 14:18 I can't even remember them all. 14:21 And I went to bed that night 14:22 feeling somewhat sense of relief. 14:26 I woke up that Saturday morning which we would call Sabbath 14:29 and I called him and I said, 14:33 "I think I want to be baptized." 14:35 Wow. 14:36 "And I want to go to church." Okay. 14:37 And he said, "Hurry, get dressed, 14:39 I'm coming to pick you up." 14:40 And here we are. 14:43 And look at God, and look at His patience, 14:46 and look at His persistence, you know, 14:49 even when we turn away from him, 14:52 He's still works on just moving us, 14:54 just bringing us back to him. 14:56 Amen. 14:57 And He gave you that peace the night before 14:59 when you feel as though, 15:01 I guess you had found something now 15:03 that you could really settle into 15:05 and boom, you wanted to get baptized. 15:07 Yes. How long has that been? 15:10 It's been about 15 years now. 15:14 Wow. Wonderful. Amen. 15:16 Now you're happy you made that decision? 15:18 Yes. All right. 15:20 Best decision I've ever made. 15:21 Okay. 15:22 God is good. Amen. Amen. 15:25 Did you find that there was an overlap between the mysticism 15:31 and the martial arts and the music, 15:35 and the Hollywood stuff, all the media things, you know, 15:38 it's as though Satan just piles layer upon layer. 15:42 And do you feel that there was an overlap there for you? 15:46 I do. 15:47 I think there was a lot of focus on self. 15:49 Yes. 15:51 This is about me. 15:53 Yeah, I'm the product whether it was my time in Hollywood, 15:56 I'm the product. 15:57 The mysticism, it's so much about me, me, me. 16:02 I'm so thankful to be in, to find God's truth 16:05 because I can look back now 16:07 and to see getting the understanding of prophecy. 16:10 And I think wait a minute, there was never any of this 16:14 that I could look at, they are particularly teaching 16:16 and look at a history book, 16:18 put them side by side 16:20 and you could see without a doubt, this is truth. 16:26 Truth will withstand scrutiny. 16:29 Yes. Right? 16:31 Truth will withstand scrutiny. Absolutely. 16:33 So you went from there into getting involved in 16:38 after you became an Adventist, the physical aspects of health 16:41 which will tie into you to Magna. 16:44 What did you do with the physical aspects of health? 16:47 I've always been involved in health 16:48 but being involved in it from the Adventist church, 16:52 at the same point I became involved in health ministry 16:55 at my church there in California, Los Angeles. 16:58 And then, a friend asked me, "Have you ever thought about 17:01 medical missionary work?" 17:03 I told, "Not really." 17:04 So I went off to some place here in Seale, Alabama, 17:07 and been studying and working there for over 10 years and-- 17:12 Oh, wow. 17:13 And so had a lot of experience, 17:16 a lot of wonderful opportunities 17:18 to work with so many people who have been sick 17:21 and who are sick 17:23 and it's amazing to see God's healing methods. 17:26 And it's really true that He uses the foolish things 17:30 to confound the wise. 17:32 And I've seen that time and time again, simple things. 17:35 Simple remedies, right. 17:37 So you got very involved 17:39 in the physical aspects of health 17:41 while your wife here has been involved 17:45 in the mental aspects of health. 17:48 Let's hear about how you two met. 17:51 So let's go to Dr. Magna here, and how did you meet? 17:55 Because it seems like such a great complimentary 17:57 type of relationship. 17:59 How did you meet? 18:00 My first husband and I used to visit 18:02 where he was at Uchee Pines. 18:03 We'd visit there and then, my parents moved down 18:06 close to there, my mother was sickly, 18:08 they're both deceased now but and we would visit 18:11 and guess who we would often have lunch with 18:13 at the cafeteria. 18:15 Ron Porterfield. Yeah. 18:17 And we would talk and we would laugh, 18:19 we'd go walking and I actually tried to matchmake him. 18:22 When I first met him, 18:23 we've invited him over up to Atlanta for weekend 18:27 'cause there was a woman I wanted to matchmake him with 18:29 and the Lord had better plan, so that didn't work out. 18:32 And so we continued our friendship 18:34 and then, after my husband passed, 18:36 he was very helpful with my father 18:37 who was on sickly. 18:39 And as a result of that, 18:41 you know, my eyes started to open, 18:42 I said hm-mm. 18:44 You know, like very sweet and we got to know each other 18:48 and the rest is history, here we are. 18:50 And how long have you been married? 18:52 Oh, a little over a year and a half. 18:54 Yes. Oh, they're kind of newlywed. 18:55 Yes, newlywed. 18:57 Almost? Almost a year and a half. 18:58 Yes. That's great. 18:59 So how has the Lord impressed you 19:01 to put your ministries together, 19:04 the mental health and the physical health? 19:06 Well, I think the mind and body is closely related, 19:10 I mean, we hear that there's a quote that says, 19:12 "The mind and body are closely related. 19:14 One is affected, the other sympathizes." 19:16 And so I see that as he has been trained 19:19 with the natural remedies 19:21 and understanding a little bit about disease. 19:23 And I've been trained in the, with working with the mind, 19:26 I see how the Lord's just bringing that together 19:28 into one big whole because we are whole people, right? 19:32 We can't separate the mind and body, the world does that, 19:35 but in reality, 19:36 we're all one person that has these different parts. 19:39 And so I see the Lord bringing in His knowledge and skill 19:43 with my knowledge and skill 19:44 to be able to address the whole person. 19:45 Oh, nice. 19:47 And so we're excited, we're just starting out, 19:48 but I see the Lord doing some good things 19:50 as time comes by His grace and power and I'm excited. 19:53 That's great. 19:55 So how are you structuring, like, 19:56 how are you gonna be lecturing, 19:59 what are you planning to do with it? 20:01 Yes, so when I was lecturing, training, 20:04 also and the Lord is putting this in our mind 20:07 that perhaps a health retreat 20:08 somewhere along the, down the line. 20:12 Hopefully, not too far down the line, 20:13 but this is something that is of a great need. 20:17 We've actually been able to do some programs together, 20:19 and the Lord has blessed where he'll go 20:21 and do divine worship 20:22 and then we'll do programs in the afternoon. 20:25 The Lord has also, I do a lot of phone counseling, 20:27 and the Lord has also allowed us 20:29 to do some things together 20:30 as I call him, "The life coach," 20:32 especially, when I've been working with men, 20:34 sometimes, it's nice to have a man talk to a man 20:36 and the Lord has really blessed with that as well. 20:39 In fact that's the bulk of work I've been doing lately 20:41 is a lot of counseling by phone, 20:43 even overseas, and so, that's been a blessing, 20:47 I've enjoyed that. 20:48 For our viewers that maybe don't know, you are so well 20:50 and tell us a little bit, 20:52 you said you were born and raised in New York area? 20:54 Yes, yes. 20:55 And tell us a little bit about your background. 20:57 Were you raised in a Christian home? 20:59 And take us on a quick journey, 21:02 there's been a while, and where you are now. 21:05 Yes, I was born in a home 21:06 where my father was Non-Adventist 21:07 and my mother was Adventist, but it was a Christian home. 21:10 We went to Christian school. 21:12 Wonderful, loving home, 21:14 had two brothers and my sister was older, 21:16 she left the house earlier. 21:18 So then went to school, had fun, 21:20 went to Oakwood, had fun, came back to teach at Oakwood, 21:23 and did some private practice and have been able to travel. 21:28 I've even come to here, at 3ABN and done some program, 21:30 that's been a blessing. 21:31 So that's quick in a nutshell. 21:33 So did you know from early age where you wanted to, 21:36 what direction in life you wanted to go, 21:38 I mean, what got you into-- 21:40 I did, actually. Mental health. 21:41 Was that at college, 21:42 once you were in college, you decided? 21:44 Yes, before everyone was thinking she should be a doctor 21:46 'cause I did pretty well in school 21:47 and my dad wanted me to be a doctor, 21:50 that didn't work out and I found myself 21:52 listening to people a lot. 21:53 And I'd be at airports observing people 21:56 and then, I heard I could get paid for doing this. 21:59 I said, "Let me do a psychology," 22:00 I can be a psychologist, 22:01 and I could paid for doing that. 22:03 And so I didn't decide that, Danny, 22:05 until my third year of college, 22:06 I tried nursing, I tried physical therapy. 22:09 None of those fit and then, 22:10 psychology was like a glove which just fit. 22:13 And that's how I ended up doing that. 22:15 That's awesome. 22:17 What have you found 22:18 has been the primary difference 22:21 between a Christian psychological perspective 22:26 and the world's psychological perspective? 22:28 The primary difference 22:29 is that the Christian recognizes that 22:31 their source of healing is God. 22:33 Secular psychologist God is like a crutch, 22:36 you know, it's something that people do as pie in the sky. 22:41 And I was exposed to that type of response 22:44 as a Christian getting my doctorate 22:45 when I would bring up God, my professor would look at me 22:48 and say, "You poor girl, you'll understand when you get out," 22:50 you know and we don't really need God, 22:52 but you know now the literature is just, 22:54 the research is just teeming 22:56 and they can't run from it anymore. 22:57 But that's the main difference in response to your question 23:00 you've on they, we recognized there's a power 23:02 outside of our help, 23:03 ourselves that can help us with our mental health. 23:06 Yes, yes. 23:08 There's a book, I'm trying to remember the name 23:11 I think it's "How God changes the brain," 23:13 or something like that, and then, 23:14 actually, you'll love this. 23:16 I've heard of that. 23:17 It's an amazing book 23:19 and it alludes to the fact that the brain actually lights up 23:24 and get involved in prayer, and they can measure it. 23:28 They can measure it scientifically. 23:30 So it's like God and the more you pray 23:35 and the more you focus on God, 23:37 then, there are actual physiological changes 23:40 in the brain. 23:42 So it to me, I mean-- That's amazing. 23:44 That's what you think 23:45 that science is now replete with research. 23:48 That is corroborating the whole idea of praise 23:51 and worship and all of that. 23:52 So, I mean, I just think that's incredible. 23:54 And it's exciting. 23:55 Every time I read or study 23:57 that goes along with what the Bible says, 23:58 I just say, "The rocks are crying out," you know. 24:01 God knows how to reach people, 24:03 I might not be able to reach someone by opening the Bible, 24:05 but when I can say to them, "You know, science shows this." 24:08 I've seen situations where I've said, 24:10 "Science shows this." 24:12 And as you start to say, "Science shows this," 24:14 they, kind of, open themselves up 24:15 when you finally can say, you know. 24:17 And the Bible has been saying this thousands of years before 24:20 and you see people saying, "Really?" 24:23 Whereas before, I had just gone to them with the Bible, 24:25 the block would have come up. 24:27 So God is just using this I think 24:29 to spread His principles and His truth. 24:31 Yes. Yes. 24:32 And speaking of principles, you have written this book, 24:36 "Keys to Optimal Mental Health." 24:38 Yes. 24:39 And this, I've read it, and it is so good. 24:43 It is so, this book, it's a thin book, 24:47 and so, it's not like a long, long read, 24:50 it doesn't take forever to read it. 24:52 But it has some amazing principles in this book. 24:56 And one of the things I love about it 24:57 is it has, at the end of each chapter, 25:00 you can apply the information to your life. 25:04 So it's not just a general, 25:06 "Okay, this is what you do and that's it." 25:08 No, this is what you do. 25:10 Now let me walk you through how to make this apply to you. 25:14 Praise the Lord. 25:15 And so this is-- what inspired you to write this? 25:17 I'm gonna tell you. 25:18 I came, my husband, my dear husband, 25:21 he'd been hearing me talk about these different topics 25:23 and he says "Maggie, you need to put this in a book." 25:25 I've written two other books, I don't like writing books. 25:28 And he kept saying, "You need to write this," 25:29 and I'm like, "Ron, I don't want to write another book, 25:31 book writing is hard for me." 25:33 And then, I come up to 3ABN 25:36 and I do some issues and answers with Shelley Quinn 25:38 and guess what, she's like after the three programs, 25:41 "Magna, you better write a book over this, 25:43 you need to put this in a book." 25:45 And I said, "Lord, okay, I get it," 25:46 you know, but because of her encouraging me, 25:50 and my husband encouraging me, that's what led to that. 25:53 The other thing too is I like to interface science, 25:57 scripture, and inspired writings. 26:01 And so when I see science 26:03 that I've read in a book by a person who's inspired 26:07 or I've read in the Bible, 26:09 I'm like, "Oh, I love putting this together." 26:11 So when I talk I do that 26:13 and I said, "Why not do it in a little book, too?" 26:15 So that's what kind of led to that. 26:16 That's great because what this does is again it reinforces 26:21 if you're not a believer, 26:23 it shows that the Bible is still relevant. 26:26 That what's in there is applicable today. 26:30 And if you are a believer, 26:32 it just reinforces your faith on Bible. 26:34 And this is really, really excellent. 26:36 So I'd like to, kind of, 26:38 go over some of the principles in the book 26:41 and just, I think we should look at it. 26:43 So the first thing 26:45 that you talk about is changing your lifestyle. 26:48 Why is that important? 26:49 I look at that, you know, every house has a foundation. 26:53 And without a foundation, you can have beautiful walls, 26:55 beautiful roof, but it will fall. 26:57 And so for me, when I look at mental health, 26:59 and I understand our own health message 27:02 that says that, "When we take care of our bodies 27:05 it will have an impact on our mind." 27:07 Prior to me doing this, Danny and Yvonne, 27:11 when I was in practice, 27:12 I would spend a lot of time talking about, 27:14 "Well, how did your mother treat you 27:16 and what kind of relationship 27:17 did your mother and father have?" 27:19 And all of that has an impact. 27:20 But I was spending months, 27:21 years talking to people about this. 27:24 As I started to implement this, 27:26 people started to change much more quickly 27:29 those who were willing. 27:30 God gave you a quick case, a testimony, 27:33 a woman who was a nurse came in, 27:35 she was molested before 27:37 and then, she had been to several counselors 27:38 talking about this. 27:40 Because she had been to several counselors, 27:41 I've felt it not necessary to go over it with her again 27:44 and I started to tell her how the body affects the mind. 27:47 And maybe she should look at how she can change her diet, 27:49 she changed her diet. 27:51 In a few months, she came and she sat in front of me, 27:53 at that time, I was Dr. Parks, she says, "Dr. Parks, 27:54 I feel better changing my diet 27:57 than before when I was dealing with depression. 27:59 I feel better than when I was not depressed." 28:03 Just by changing her diet. 28:05 And I have stories 28:06 that I could tell about just people changing their diet 28:08 and how it affects the brain, so I thought I needed to say, 28:11 "This is the foundation for optimal mental health, 28:13 you need to eat, have a better diet, 28:15 you need to exercise, 28:17 you need to try to get proper rest, 28:18 you need to drink water." 28:20 All of these things has an impact on the brain 28:22 and all the rest of the principles 28:24 that I'm gonna share afterward, 28:26 you can better implement them if you take care of your body. 28:29 So that's how that came about. 28:31 And so good. 28:32 One of the things that people often don't connect, 28:36 while connecting the dots is that we're chemical being, 28:40 so the chemicals that we put into our bodies 28:44 affect how we respond whether we have depression, 28:48 anxiety, all of these things. 28:50 If we eat certain things, 28:52 it triggers a chemical response in the body 28:55 that is going to just cause 28:58 or at least foster and sometimes, 29:02 just make it so much worse, exacerbate these symptoms. 29:06 So if you change the diet, it's, kind of, a basic thing. 29:10 You're changing the chemicals, 29:12 the chemistry of the body which then changes, 29:15 you know, your response. 29:17 It's, kind of, 29:18 and maybe, in a lot of ways now, 29:20 I'm not a doctor like either one of you 29:21 but sometimes we call, 29:23 I call it, "Getting out of a rut." 29:25 When you do something for so long in your life, 29:29 you make a change all of a sudden, 29:31 you say, "World, you didn't say before." 29:33 Yes. 29:34 But the change you're talking about is a great change 29:37 because it comes straight from the Bible, 29:39 because now we're gonna take in Biblical principles 29:42 of how, what we take into our bodies. 29:45 The old saying is to be that you know we'd say, 29:47 if people eat a lot of sugar, 29:49 don't say anything wrong with them, 29:50 we'd say, "Would you put sugar in your gas tank?" 29:53 "Oh, no, I wouldn't do that," "Why not?" 29:55 'Cause that will shut the engine down. 29:56 Yes. Right. 29:58 So, you know, I'm getting to very practical part, 30:00 but what you're doing is, 30:01 I think, the first part is getting people out of erupt 30:04 because it's hard to change what you've always done. 30:07 Yes. It is. 30:09 And you wrote a song about that for kids. 30:10 I did. "You are what you eat." Oh, wow. 30:14 And it's great, I mean, for-- 30:16 to teach children how to eat properly, 30:19 the song "You are what you eat." 30:21 So on one of his projects. 30:24 If I can just say this too... Yes. 30:25 Like, I said that they are starting to catch up, 30:27 Dr. Roger Wall, he did a study, 30:28 he did a review of lot of studies, 30:30 and he found that if a person does these principles, 30:34 carries them out, 30:35 it can help just as much he says as counseling 30:39 and taking medication. 30:41 Now please, I'm not saying, "Get off of every medication." 30:42 Yeah, sure. I always like to add that. 30:45 Some people need it for a moment or however long, 30:47 but he's saying that 30:49 if you're consisting with these principles, 30:51 it can help you, as much as these two things. 30:53 That's tremendous. The rocks are crying out. 30:55 That's tremendous, when you think about it. 30:57 That's really tremendous to know that, 30:59 you can have a long term-- 31:02 I think you don't want to just manage symptoms. 31:06 You want to get to the root cause, 31:08 so if you can use dietary measures 31:11 to change the body's chemistry, you can get to the root cause. 31:16 Well, one of the hardest things in life to change is your diet. 31:19 Yes, it is. It is. 31:20 It's your lifestyle. It is. 31:22 So if we can gain victory over that, 31:23 you can almost gain victory over anything-- 31:25 Amen. 31:27 So it's great really, 31:28 because it takes a lot of sacrifice in the beginning 31:32 and before it's over, you're like, 31:33 "Wow, why I didn't do this before?" 31:35 Exactly. Yeah. 31:36 What about rest, 31:38 because, so often we can just burn ourselves out, 31:44 you know, push, push, push, push, 31:46 why is rest so important? 31:48 Well, rest is important 31:49 because every part of our body needs rest 31:53 in order to replenish, 31:54 and especially during the hours of sleep, 31:56 the brain does some replenishing, 31:58 it does some rejuvenation, 32:01 and if our difficulties with anxiety, 32:03 or depression, or mental health 32:05 is having to do a lot with the brain, 32:07 we need to give the brain rest. 32:08 And allow it to produce the chemicals 32:11 and to do what it needs to do 32:12 in order for us to function well. 32:13 And nowadays, people are so deprived of sleep. 32:17 I believe some depression is coming on 32:19 because are not getting enough rest. 32:22 That is so true. 32:23 You know, and it's the timing, too, 32:24 getting to bed before midnight is so important, 32:27 especially, if you're dealing with some of these issues 32:29 because some peak thing has happened. 32:31 Growth hormone, melatonin, 32:34 and so we need to be getting proper rest 32:35 in order to have good mental health, 32:37 it's, like, essential. 32:38 She started preaching now. And in Midland accent. 32:41 Midland, yeah, went to Midland instead of preaching. 32:45 For sure. But it's really true. 32:48 And you can get so caught up in whatever you're doing. 32:50 That you neglect the rest, 32:53 and that's when the body rejuvenates. 32:57 Like you said that's when the brain also 32:59 can get rejuvenated, 33:00 so I mean, it's just, rest is critical. 33:03 Yes, yes. 33:05 What about exercise? 33:06 A lot people-- I used to-- I exercise now regularly. 33:11 Praise the Lord. Amen. 33:12 But before I really wasn't, why is that so important? 33:16 And I know people say, "Oh, it's important to exercise," 33:20 but why do you think it's important? 33:22 You ever heard the phrase, 33:23 "If you don't use it, you lose it," 33:25 and that's with anything 33:26 in order to keep whatever going, 33:28 we need to exercise. 33:29 And then our bodies, if we don't use certain parts, 33:31 it will affect us, it releases certain hormones in the brain, 33:35 it just rejuvenates us. 33:37 All of these things are about rejuvenation and restoring, 33:39 the exercise, the drinking of the water. 33:41 I've dealt with the 16 year young girl, 33:43 16-year-old girl who was mildly depressed 33:45 just because she wasn't drinking enough water 33:47 Started to drinking water and those things just, 33:50 the depression just went away. 33:51 That's not the case with everybody, but in her case. 33:53 Right. 33:54 There's a Dr. Batmanghelidj, who wrote the book, 33:57 "Your Body's Many Cries For Water." 33:59 Yes. 34:00 And he mentions that, he treated over, 34:02 I think it's 2,000 or 3,000 cases of ulcers 34:06 in a prison camp. 34:08 He didn't have access to other drug and stuff, 34:11 with water, 34:13 because if you don't drink water, 34:15 the body gets dehydrated and all kinds of things happen, 34:19 all kinds of weird symptoms. 34:21 Can just occur as a result of dehydration. 34:24 So and I'm one that's not drinking the water, 34:27 so this is really good for me, too. 34:29 This is really good. 34:31 So we've got the foundation, now you also talk about, 34:36 "You are what you think." 34:38 Why are the thoughts so connected to how we feel? 34:44 It's amazing. 34:45 Feelings are kind of out there subjective, 34:48 not really, you know, they're unstable, 34:50 but a lot of times, 34:52 our feelings come from what we tell ourselves. 34:55 I can give an example, one time we were driving, 34:58 and my husband did something that, kind of, bothered me. 35:01 And I started to tell myself things 35:03 such as, "He doesn't care, he doesn't really love me," 35:07 and I had to stop myself, 35:09 and said, "Magna, you teach this stuff." 35:10 You know it, I can easily stay here and talk about this, 35:13 but I have to work on applying it. 35:15 And it started to say, you know what... 35:18 Actually, we were going to a seminar to talk about that 35:20 and I said, "You know, I need to apply 35:21 what I'm teaching here." 35:23 I said, "I'm not going down that road." 35:25 And I just changed my whole thinking pattern, 35:26 and I said, "You know what, everybody makes mistakes, 35:30 he may not think I've done 35:31 what I thought he did for certain reason," 35:33 and my whole mindset just changed. 35:35 And my whole demeanor just changed. 35:37 So our thoughts, what we tell ourselves, 35:39 it impacts how we act, it impacts how we feel, 35:42 God created us in that way. 35:44 And so even physiologists who are on to this 50 years ago 35:47 and now, when they are treating depression 35:48 or helping people, they start to say, 35:51 "Isolate and try to examine your thoughts 35:53 and see what you're telling yourself," 35:54 like, "Nobody loves me, 35:56 I'm the worst person in the world, 35:58 I'll never accomplish mission life." 35:59 Start to analyze that and start to change that, 36:02 and you'll find that it will affect how you feel. 36:05 And when I work with people, I've tried to do that. 36:07 And when I'm working to myself, I try to do that 36:09 because feelings and thoughts are so closely related. 36:11 You know, we tried when we were kids in school, 36:14 my dad had told us and I'm sure, probably, 36:16 many of the older folks have tried it, 36:18 but we sat one day, 36:20 let's tell, there is a certain kid in class, 36:22 I'll go by and tell him, "You don't feel good," 36:25 or "You don't look good." 36:26 And then, we would tell another pretty soon, 36:28 "You go by and tell him, "See, you don't look good, 36:30 are you sick today?" 36:32 And before noon, he was wanting to go home, 36:34 he was sick. 36:35 And here is the boy who'd come, 36:36 so my dad would tell me about this experience 36:38 and so I told, "Okay, let's go, 36:39 let's try that, let's just see." 36:41 So what everybody, all that. 36:43 I know that doesn't sound like me, right? 36:45 To be a button pusher like that. 36:48 Oh, my goodness. But it really did work. 36:49 If you go tell somebody in the morning, 36:51 "Well, you just don't look-- 36:52 Are you okay, you don't feel good?" 36:54 Then five minutes later, another kid, 36:56 "Boy, you look, kind of peaked, you sure you're feeling okay?" 37:00 Well, then just a little bit, 37:01 this guy is sick, he's ready to go home. 37:04 So that mental part what you're saying is, 37:07 you know, be positive. 37:10 I think we need to talk about why you did that? 37:13 Why I did that? I was teasing you. 37:14 I want to say if it worked-- 37:16 Want to see if it worked, but it does, 37:18 I mean, I've had people do me that way. 37:21 "Are you colored in?" 37:22 And all of a sudden you start thinking, "Am I okay?" 37:24 There you go, did you see what he said, you start thinking. 37:26 Yeah. Yeah, you do. 37:27 So it is important, but to stay positive, 37:30 and that's why it's such an advantage, 37:32 when you're Christian 37:33 and you've read the back of the book. 37:34 Amen. 37:36 The back of the book is not how long you live, 37:38 but what happens to us after we die. 37:41 Of course, we want to be healthy and happy. 37:43 Over work, stress, all that, 37:45 my throat right now, is no accident, 37:47 I've just, kind of, been going, running, running, running. 37:51 And so therefore, it affects what happens to me. 37:54 And so here mentally, we're talking about physically, 37:59 but mentally as well. 38:00 I've to be positive. 38:02 As a Christian, I know that I have hope. 38:05 And I know that I have life everlasting. 38:08 And so stay positive. Yes. 38:09 Don't let people get you down. Amen. 38:12 You know, just last night my husband had to do a pep talk 38:14 on me on something that happened, 38:16 some affairs, he had to say, start thinking, 38:19 all things work together for good. 38:21 And I started to repeat that, and some of anxiety went away. 38:25 So we as Christians, we have an advantage 38:27 'cause we have the principles in the Bible. 38:29 That can help us with our thoughts. 38:31 Absolutely. It's a blessing. 38:32 It is. It is. 38:35 There's a, Dr. Caroline Leaf, 38:38 who has done a lot of research with the brain. 38:40 I think I've heard you talk about her. 38:42 Yes, you probably have, 'cause I mentioned her in this book, 38:45 but she talks about forgiveness 38:49 and the power of forgiveness to-- 38:52 When we don't forgive, they're actually cells, 38:56 neurons that shoot out toxins into the bloodstream. 39:00 But when we forgive, those little cells go away. 39:05 So it's, like, God's gives us these principles in the Word. 39:09 It's not just forgive just for forgiveness sake, 39:12 but it also impacts us physiologically 39:15 as well as spiritually. 39:17 So we can, you know, really look to the Word for that. 39:21 What about self-control, like, what is it... 39:27 The Bible says that one of the fruits of the spirit 39:30 is self-control. 39:31 How do you differentiate that self-control 39:34 from the self-control 39:35 that you are discussing here? 39:38 Actually, yes, it's, kind of, related. 39:40 Self-control is about being able to control what we say, 39:44 what we do, what we think, 39:46 and sometimes, people are suffering mentally 39:48 because they don't know how to place a guard around 39:51 what they say, or what they think, 39:53 or what they do. 39:54 Addictions, comes from a lack of self-control. 39:57 I may not start in that way, but it can develop. 40:00 Over eating, any-- a lot of the problems. 40:02 Self-control is the basis of so many problems 40:05 in the society, domestic violence, child abuse, 40:08 alcoholism, drug addiction, overeating, 40:11 all of this is a problem with self-control. 40:13 And so, if people can start to implement 40:15 principles to help them, and sometimes we need help. 40:18 In fact, in the book I've mentioned, 40:20 one of the steps is to find someone 40:21 who can, you can accountable to, 40:23 you have a particular problem, will you help me, 40:25 will you pray with me, will you hold me 40:27 accountable to have control in this area? 40:30 So I encourage people for good mental health, 40:32 try to see what areas you should 40:33 need to control yourself in, 40:34 and seek the help that you can to develop 40:37 that control of self, which is not easy. 40:41 But it's the best thing for the good mental health. 40:43 Yeah, because I can see how, if you are, 40:48 if your appetite's out of control, 40:49 that's a problem. 40:51 If your words are out of control, 40:53 that's a problem. 40:55 So it's like you have to develop that, 40:58 and the Bible says, we can bring every thought 41:00 into captivity to Jesus Christ. 41:03 So there is a way to do it, but it isn't easy. 41:06 No, it isn't, in fact, none of these principles 41:08 in here are easy, that's the thing 41:10 I want people to realize. 41:12 But nothing good comes easy. 41:15 And if you work at it, by God's-- 41:17 and that's the thing about how to keep brining in God, 41:18 because we as Christian, when we believe 41:20 that we can get divine help to over come these things. 41:23 It's a wonderful thing. Yes. 41:25 That we don't have to just depend on ourselves for it. 41:28 Yes, yes. 41:29 That we have God, who will help us to do 41:32 what needs to be done, 41:33 because these are character issues too. 41:35 Yes, they are. And He is... 41:37 We can't change our spots, but you know, 41:40 can a leopard change its spot, so the Ethiopians can. 41:42 We can't change those things, but, what we can do, 41:46 is turn them over to God, 41:47 and ask him to help us to do that. 41:49 Everything we talked about so far goes back to self. 41:53 It's a great controversy between good and evil, 41:55 doing Christ and Satan. 41:57 Satan said, "I should be like the most high God." 42:00 You know, he was cast from heaven to this earth, 42:04 now he tries everybody to be just like him, 42:07 which is all about him. 42:08 He wants the honor and the praise, 42:10 so we as individuals, we either take on the character of Christ 42:14 or we take on the character of Satan. 42:16 There's really no end between. Amen. 42:18 We may wanna act like there is, 42:20 but there is really no end between. 42:22 Yeah, that is true. 42:23 And May Chung, used to tell me we have two natures. 42:25 We have a spiritual nature and beastly nature. 42:29 Whichever one we feed the most is the one that grows the most. 42:32 That's powerful. 42:34 Isn't that deep? Yes. 42:35 So in this case, everything here is self-control, 42:38 the only way I'm gonna overcome that is 42:41 keep my eyes and ears focused on the Word of God. 42:44 And study the character of Jesus. 42:47 And order for me to not think this world is built around. 42:51 My dad used to say, "Son, this whole world 42:53 didn't built around you, you're a little grain as sand, 42:56 right here, in this whole world, 42:57 do you think everything is gonna be, 42:59 you know, whatever you say or do, 43:01 you're just a little grain as sand. 43:03 You're only worth something because God created you, 43:05 He died for you, so you have plenty of value, 43:08 but don't think the whole world revolves around you." 43:11 So we really-- 43:12 It gets to that point, everything you're saying here 43:14 is principles to help us to look not at ourselves, 43:20 but more, and that's why we need God, 43:23 and we need a Savior. 43:24 And to know that there is a creator God, 43:26 who can help us overcome these things in our life. 43:30 And that says the song said come, 43:32 we come to the foot of the cross. 43:33 Yes. Give it to Jesus. 43:35 Amen, amen. Makes the difference. 43:37 You have anything? 43:39 I'm not a host, but my husband's 43:41 been sitting here and I'm just wondering if we, 43:42 you have anything you want to add 43:44 in terms of this self-control or the anything? 43:46 Well, you are hitting here right on the head, whether-- 43:49 this is so much of the very foundation, 43:50 and what's out there is-- 43:52 without self-control, we can't really have a correct 43:57 relationship with God. 43:59 I mean we can do nothing, but there again, 44:03 the Lord has given us enough self-control 44:05 I believe to be able to surrender to Him, 44:09 if we are willing to be able to come 44:11 to the foot of the cross. 44:12 That much self-control. 44:14 And then, from there He can make us stronger, 44:17 so that we can grow in Christ. 44:19 So it's yielding the will to Christ, right? 44:24 Yes, just turning it over to Him, 44:27 and then letting Him shape it. 44:30 And He said, go, 44:31 'cause it's a daily process, right? 44:33 Yes. Yes. 44:34 Daily process, that if we want to, 44:37 and if you're working out in weights, 44:39 and you want to beef yourself up, get more muscles. 44:42 It didn't happen today, 'cause I said, 44:44 "I think I workout well, look I'm..." 44:46 it's a process that every day 44:49 and it depends how I go about it. 44:51 Then I can grow, but same way spiritually, too, 44:54 and you say even you're mentally. 44:55 It's a step, so we don't need to think. 44:57 Boy, everything isn't gonna happen today. 45:00 It takes time, it takes us time to get 45:02 and the mess we're in. 45:04 And it takes some take some time to get out of that mess 45:07 because we live in a sinful world. 45:09 Yes, yes. Yes. 45:11 I'm glad you said that to encourage the listeners 45:13 if you're listening to know that it's a process 45:15 and you may hear these principles 45:17 and think that you're gonna just get over it quickly 45:20 and implement it, but it's a process, 45:21 you start a little and then you go from there. 45:23 Yeah. 45:24 And what you said earlier, it really helps me. 45:27 You teach this and yet you still struggle with it. 45:30 So it's not a matter that none of this isn't true, 45:33 it's all true but you're just saying I'm still human 45:36 and I have to depend on them pointing to your book, 45:39 here's all the viewers can't see. 45:40 But I have to depend on the Word of God, 45:42 I have to depend on these principles 45:44 to keep myself in line, 45:45 in order for me to grow more like Christ. 45:49 You know, so it is something, 45:51 it's a process of day after day 45:54 one, there's old song says, "One day at a time," 45:56 sweet Jesus, so one day at a time, 45:58 we draw closer to the Lord. 46:01 And we less of self and more of Christ. 46:04 Yes. Amen. 46:06 Paul realized that too, didn't he? 46:07 He is like, I counted up myself as one who has apprehended. 46:10 We could see himself in this process 46:12 growing day by day, 46:14 relying constantly on the strength of Christ. 46:16 Amen. Absolutely. 46:18 Now what about growing through adversity? 46:23 Because I think, you know, 46:24 adversity can either just bury you 46:30 or you can grow from it. 46:31 Yes. Let's talk about that a bit. 46:33 Yeah, you know, the Bible has a lot of text, 46:35 I used to try to understand about brethren 46:38 count and not joy when you fall, 46:40 I mean, count it not joy when you fall 46:42 into diverse temptations 46:43 and that the trying of your face 46:45 works in patience, I used to say, 46:47 "How could all of this happen?" 46:48 But it's a process of the Lord saying, 46:50 "I don't want these things to stunt you, 46:52 I want these things to help you to grow." 46:54 And so psychology finally caught on, 46:56 they talk about post-traumatic growth now 46:58 that people can grow and become better people 47:01 as a result of the trials 47:03 and difficulties that come in life. 47:05 And they say that you can do that by developing resilience, 47:09 resilience, when you throw a ball, 47:10 it comes right back. 47:12 If you develop that resilience, 47:13 emotionally, mentally, socially, spiritually, 47:17 you can actually allow this bad experience to help you to grow. 47:20 I personally can attest to that, 47:22 I'm a different person 47:23 now as a result of all the people 47:24 I've lost in my life. 47:26 I don't walk on water, I still need help 47:28 but I'm a different person as a result of the difficulty. 47:30 Also talk about that. 47:31 I think I'm more empathic towards people, 47:34 I'm more compassionate, before I couldn't relate 47:36 to a person losing a spouse before. 47:39 I couldn't relate to sickness 'cause I was diagnosed with MS 47:41 and Lord has, you know, healed me of that, 47:43 at least I don't have the symptoms right now. 47:45 I couldn't relate to that but now when I see people 47:48 with disabling illnesses, I have more compassion, 47:51 I feel like I can relate to them better. 47:53 It's not just, "Oh, you poor thing", 47:55 you know, pity but I really feel like 47:56 I can step in their shoes. 47:58 So I do know that that has happened to me 48:00 as a result of the difficulties I've been through. 48:03 I think we can choose to either-- 48:07 We can kind of choose our response... 48:09 Yes. To the adversity. 48:11 That's a very good point. 48:12 We don't have to be buried by it. 48:16 But it takes, I mean it's not easy 48:18 but I think we can, we can say, 48:20 this is either gonna help me to grow 48:23 or it's gonna overwhelm me. 48:25 Because sometimes you get hit by so many things at once 48:29 that, you know, you can either let it bury 48:33 or you can just keep on pressing. 48:35 Yeah. Right. 48:36 My consolation is to know, you know, it is true 48:39 the devil can rob us of our health, 48:41 he can rob us of finances, he can rob us of relationships, 48:44 but he can't rob us of our soul and where we spend eternity. 48:49 So great peace have they which love thy law 48:52 and nothing shall offend them, 48:54 simply that no matter what people say to you 48:56 can't get you down. I've learned a long time ago, 48:59 when you're on television as much as I've been, 49:01 people either love you or hate you. 49:03 And so, you know, and some people 49:06 want to put you up on a pedestal 49:07 which they shouldn't or they want to cast you down. 49:10 Right before I came on this program, 49:12 I read a letter marked to me personally. 49:14 Somebody said, "You're not a good person 49:16 and Lord show me out in dream and you're going to die." 49:19 And my answer would be to that 49:21 is well of course I'm gonna die, 49:23 should the Lord tarry. 49:24 But that's not the worst thing that can happen to somebody. 49:27 You haven't lost when you die, that's actually the beginning. 49:31 So I don't look at death, 49:33 I always think it's a waste of time, 49:35 I don't enjoy the thought of being dead 49:37 'cause you can't accomplish anything. 49:39 But, you know, in a simple term. 49:42 But people do that, they write, 49:44 there's today I probably had three letters, 49:46 people tell me what a horrible person I am. 49:48 Now these folks don't know me, they never met me 49:51 but they read what other people say. 49:53 And so they assume that they can do it 49:55 and I feel badly for them, because I think, 49:57 well, these people what a problem 50:00 that they're judging 50:01 and they're doing all these things. 50:03 Now I'm not saying that for any sympathy, 50:05 it's just something you grow up I've been 30 years in ministry. 50:08 So the same way, people will write 50:10 and tell you how wonderful you are. 50:12 That doesn't affect me. 50:14 I can't let any of it affect me. 50:16 The good or the bad, what I do appreciate 50:18 and someone wrote, read that right before it come out. 50:21 In the last two years, I've been watching 3ABN, 50:24 has changed my entire life. 50:25 Brought me closer to Jesus 50:27 and I want to thank Him for the ministry. 50:29 That I praise the Lord for. 50:31 But again, it's not about self. 50:33 And your book is really telling us 50:35 that, you know, we can't concentrate, 50:37 God has a plan for us. 50:39 And you're helping us to take advantage of principles 50:44 that God has laid out. 50:46 And yet someone could read this and not necessarily say, 50:49 "Oh, this is the Bible, I don't want to read the Bible." 50:52 But someone says, "Oh, well, keys to optimal mental health, 50:55 I'm gonna read that." 50:57 And what they will eventually find out 50:59 that you're giving them direction, 51:02 directly from the word of God. 51:03 Amen. 51:05 It's a great, it's a great book. 51:06 I'm glad you wrote it. Yeah. I am too. 51:08 I'm so glad you wrote this book. 51:10 Praise the Lord. 51:11 'Cause I think it can help so many people, 51:13 it's not, you know, it's a thin book, 51:16 so you don't have to be overwhelmed 51:17 when you look at it and go, oh, it's like 500 pages. 51:20 But it gets to the point 51:21 and it's got all of these principles 51:23 and it's got all these applications in it. 51:26 And I just think that's great. 51:27 Let's talk about the conscience. 51:29 Okay. 51:30 Developing a healthy conscience. 51:33 How do you differentiate between a healthy conscience 51:37 and being overwhelmed with guilt? 51:40 Being overwhelmed with guilt 51:41 is a sign of not having a healthy conscience. 51:44 And so people are suffering sometimes 51:46 because of unresolved guilt, they have guilt over things 51:49 they've done in the past. 51:50 And their conscience is just tricked and tender. 51:53 And so helping people to be able to develop 51:55 a healthy conscious so they can accurately choose 51:57 what's right and wrong is so important. 51:59 That's good. Absolutely. 52:01 What I'm overwhelmed with is I cannot, look at that clock... 52:04 I know. This time is almost gone. 52:06 A whole hour, I can't believe it. 52:08 This has been so good. 52:09 As they say, time flies when you're having fun. 52:12 But what we want to do there are those I know, 52:15 folk who want to contact you, they'll want to see 52:17 how to get this book, maybe other information 52:19 that you both have, 52:21 find out more about your ministry. 52:23 And so what we're gonna do, we're gonna put the address 52:25 up on the screen then we're gonna go to a news break 52:28 and we will be back for a closing thought. 52:32 Be In Good Health is a Christian organization 52:35 that provides education and resources for physical, 52:38 spiritual and mental health. 52:40 If you'd like to know more 52:41 or if you'd like to receive one of their books. 52:43 You can call 678-562-7512. 52:47 That's 678-562-7512. 52:51 You can visit them online at bingoodhealth.com. 52:55 That's bingoodhealth.com. 53:00 Or you can e-mail them at info@bingoodhealth.com. 53:05 That's info@bingoodhealth.com. |
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