I want to spend my life
00:00:01.53\00:00:07.50
Mending broken people
00:00:07.54\00:00:12.47
I want to spend my life
00:00:12.51\00:00:18.78
Removing pain
00:00:18.81\00:00:23.79
Lord, let my words
00:00:23.82\00:00:30.03
Heal a heart that hurts
00:00:30.06\00:00:34.56
I want to spend my life
00:00:34.60\00:00:40.34
Mending broken people
00:00:40.37\00:00:45.77
I want to spend my life
00:00:45.81\00:00:51.31
Mending broken people.
00:00:51.35\00:00:55.25
Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
00:01:07.43\00:01:09.76
My name is C.A. Murray,
00:01:09.80\00:01:11.13
and allow me once again
to thank you for sharing
00:01:11.17\00:01:13.64
just a little of your
no doubt busy day with us.
00:01:13.67\00:01:16.07
So thank you for
your love, your prayers,
00:01:16.10\00:01:17.91
your support of this ministry.
00:01:17.94\00:01:19.54
And to thank you
for helping us do
00:01:19.57\00:01:21.54
what we are called to
do and that's to lift up
00:01:21.58\00:01:23.58
the mighty and
magnificent name of Jesus,
00:01:23.61\00:01:25.61
and take the gospel
of a soon coming Savior
00:01:25.65\00:01:28.28
to the whole world.
00:01:28.32\00:01:29.65
Today's program is one that
I'm very, very excited about,
00:01:29.68\00:01:32.62
because of the subject
matter, and the four cool guys
00:01:32.65\00:01:36.73
that I got sitting here with me.
00:01:36.76\00:01:39.16
And the place that
we're gonna be talking about,
00:01:39.19\00:01:41.70
first of all we're
talking about health ministry.
00:01:41.73\00:01:43.57
We're also
talking about Eden Valley,
00:01:43.60\00:01:45.93
which is a place
that is dear to my heart,
00:01:45.97\00:01:48.00
and to those of us here at 3ABN,
00:01:48.04\00:01:50.07
since so many of us have
passed through its hallow doors
00:01:50.11\00:01:54.11
in years past.
00:01:54.14\00:01:55.48
And the staff has changed a
little bit since I was there.
00:01:55.51\00:01:59.01
And so, we get to
meet some new friends,
00:01:59.05\00:02:00.98
some really neat guys.
00:02:01.02\00:02:02.35
So we're gonna
talk about Eden Valley
00:02:02.38\00:02:03.75
and the work that it does.
00:02:03.79\00:02:05.69
And you want to
maybe grab a pen, pencil
00:02:05.72\00:02:07.96
a little bit
later on the program.
00:02:07.99\00:02:09.39
We're going to give you
some contact information
00:02:09.42\00:02:11.23
because Eden Valley is a place,
00:02:11.26\00:02:12.66
that number you should
never have too far away,
00:02:12.69\00:02:16.03
because if you
don't need it now,
00:02:16.06\00:02:17.97
you may need it one
day, or you may know someone
00:02:18.00\00:02:20.04
who can take advantage
00:02:20.07\00:02:21.47
of its many and varied services.
00:02:21.50\00:02:23.77
We're going to
talk about that today,
00:02:23.81\00:02:25.24
and my guest include,
00:02:25.27\00:02:26.81
and I'll start with
the one closest to me.
00:02:26.84\00:02:28.61
We've got so many guys,
00:02:28.64\00:02:29.98
we have to bring one over
here, and put them by my side.
00:02:30.01\00:02:32.15
This is Dr. Keith. Let's see.
00:02:32.18\00:02:34.65
Schleifer? Did I get it right?
00:02:34.68\00:02:36.02
Schleifer. Yes, yes.
00:02:36.05\00:02:37.39
Dr. Keith Schleifer,
is the medical director.
00:02:37.42\00:02:39.29
That's right.
00:02:39.32\00:02:40.66
Okay, we're gonna
find out what that entails.
00:02:40.69\00:02:42.86
When I was there Dr.
Cherny was the medical director.
00:02:42.89\00:02:45.53
Right.
00:02:45.56\00:02:46.90
And really neat
guy who we loved a lot.
00:02:46.93\00:02:48.36
Yes.
00:02:48.40\00:02:49.73
I'm told he's
still, still around
00:02:49.76\00:02:51.10
though not practicing.
00:02:51.13\00:02:52.47
Correct, he's
still right on campus...
00:02:52.50\00:02:53.94
Praise the Lord.
00:02:53.97\00:02:55.30
His wife and, and
they are doing well.
00:02:55.34\00:02:58.11
Excellent, excellent.
00:02:58.14\00:02:59.51
I'm gonna go to the far
end and work my way back.
00:02:59.54\00:03:02.64
Travis Laws are in is
the lifestyle director.
00:03:02.68\00:03:06.38
Travis, good to have you here.
00:03:06.41\00:03:07.75
Thank you. It's good to be here.
00:03:07.78\00:03:09.12
Yeah.
00:03:09.15\00:03:10.49
You may hear a little
Texas drawl from Travis,
00:03:10.52\00:03:14.36
I was teasing it's
not a pure Texas drawl,
00:03:14.39\00:03:16.42
because he's been all
over California, Idaho,
00:03:16.46\00:03:18.79
so that, that pure
Texas has gotten adulterated
00:03:18.83\00:03:22.00
just a little bit in his travel.
00:03:22.03\00:03:23.37
It is watered down a little bit.
00:03:23.40\00:03:25.43
Just a little bit.
00:03:25.47\00:03:27.24
Next to him Gary Ross.
00:03:27.27\00:03:28.60
Gary, good to have
you here. Thank you.
00:03:28.64\00:03:30.31
Now you were a
patient at one time.
00:03:30.34\00:03:31.67
I was.
00:03:31.71\00:03:33.04
And we're gonna talk about
00:03:33.07\00:03:34.41
what shape you were
in when you got there,
00:03:34.44\00:03:36.18
and what shape you're in now,
00:03:36.21\00:03:37.61
because you're
looking pretty good.
00:03:37.65\00:03:39.15
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:03:39.18\00:03:41.05
And David Hohlfeld.
00:03:41.08\00:03:45.29
Praise the Lord.
00:03:45.32\00:03:46.65
Another patient
with a testimony.
00:03:46.69\00:03:48.42
So we've got two practitioners
and two personal testimonies
00:03:48.46\00:03:51.86
of the kinds of things
that Eden Valley has done.
00:03:51.89\00:03:54.10
And if you've been
watching this program
00:03:54.13\00:03:55.46
for any length of time,
00:03:55.50\00:03:56.83
you know that Eden Valley
does a very, very fine work.
00:03:56.87\00:03:59.37
Before we go to music and going,
00:03:59.40\00:04:00.87
I want to just talk a little bit
00:04:00.90\00:04:02.24
to the good doctor and Travis.
00:04:02.27\00:04:05.07
And I start with you Dr. Keith.
00:04:05.11\00:04:07.78
Where you from?
00:04:07.81\00:04:09.18
I was born in Southern Colorado.
00:04:09.21\00:04:11.01
But I've lived in
Tennessee, North Carolina
00:04:11.05\00:04:13.65
for you know,
couple of decades or more.
00:04:13.68\00:04:16.42
So you're really
not back that far away
00:04:16.45\00:04:19.09
from your roots as it were.
00:04:19.12\00:04:20.82
I was really happy to
come back home to Colorado.
00:04:20.86\00:04:23.99
Adventist family growing up?
00:04:24.03\00:04:26.13
Yes.
00:04:26.16\00:04:28.20
Always wanted to do medicine
00:04:28.23\00:04:29.56
or is it something
the Lord just led you into
00:04:29.60\00:04:31.33
or something that
always intrigued you.
00:04:31.37\00:04:32.77
I always had a
leaning toward medicine.
00:04:32.80\00:04:36.87
I wanted to be...
00:04:36.91\00:04:41.34
In academy, I had so...
00:04:41.38\00:04:44.08
In academy and college I had,
I wanted to be a humble doctor
00:04:44.11\00:04:49.82
in the '70s and '80s.
00:04:49.85\00:04:52.45
There was
sometimes kind of a God.
00:04:52.49\00:04:54.82
You heard about
doctors having a God complex.
00:04:54.86\00:04:58.33
And I did not want to
be that type of person.
00:04:58.36\00:05:01.20
So for a couple of years,
I was hesitant but anyway,
00:05:01.23\00:05:05.67
God led me on
to go to Loma Linda
00:05:05.70\00:05:08.70
and have my training there.
00:05:08.74\00:05:10.14
Loma Linda guy. Yes.
00:05:10.17\00:05:11.51
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:05:11.54\00:05:13.51
Where did you set
up practice originally?
00:05:13.54\00:05:16.34
I took family practice as
my residency board certified
00:05:16.38\00:05:20.02
in Hinsdale Hospital
in Hinsdale near Chicago.
00:05:20.05\00:05:23.85
And then I did
my first four years
00:05:23.89\00:05:26.35
in Jellico, Tennessee
at our hospital there.
00:05:26.39\00:05:30.09
Yeah.
00:05:30.13\00:05:31.46
And doing family
practice, delivering babies
00:05:31.49\00:05:34.46
and taking care
of heart attacks,
00:05:34.50\00:05:36.06
and strokes, and trauma.
00:05:36.10\00:05:38.73
As a family doctor there,
00:05:38.77\00:05:42.07
each family doctor
had to take their turn
00:05:42.10\00:05:43.97
in the emergency room.
00:05:44.01\00:05:45.84
And so I got emergency room
experience there then as well.
00:05:45.87\00:05:50.75
And then a
doctor from Loma Linda,
00:05:50.78\00:05:54.85
who started an ER group
invited me to go to a hospital
00:05:54.88\00:05:59.15
in Fletcher in North Carolina.
00:05:59.19\00:06:00.66
Fletcher, yes.
00:06:00.69\00:06:02.02
And there I've
been a ER doctor for...
00:06:02.06\00:06:03.96
I was there about 14 years
00:06:03.99\00:06:05.99
with a good friend
Dr. Dwayne Butcher,
00:06:06.03\00:06:09.10
and then he got
me into mission work,
00:06:09.13\00:06:12.70
Dr. Butcher helped Mark Finley
a lot in his Eastern Europe
00:06:12.73\00:06:18.41
and Soviet and
Russian, later Russian work.
00:06:18.44\00:06:22.98
And so I likewise got
into doing evangelism,
00:06:23.01\00:06:27.48
doing the medical
part of evangelism.
00:06:27.52\00:06:29.18
How long at Eden Valley?
00:06:29.22\00:06:30.95
One and a half years.
00:06:30.99\00:06:32.32
Uh-huh kind of a newbie.
00:06:32.35\00:06:33.69
Yeah, yeah.
00:06:33.72\00:06:36.19
Do you like this
aspect of medical work?
00:06:36.22\00:06:38.79
I love it. Yes. Yeah.
00:06:38.83\00:06:42.26
Ever since I've been
lecturing about health
00:06:42.30\00:06:45.67
with evangelistic
series in the '90s.
00:06:45.70\00:06:48.97
And before, my wife,
my wife and I had started
00:06:49.00\00:06:54.94
becoming more
healthy in our own cooking,
00:06:54.98\00:06:57.51
became vegan in the '90s,
00:06:57.55\00:07:00.18
and I love the
preventive aspect of it, so.
00:07:00.22\00:07:04.29
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:04.32\00:07:05.65
Sounds like a good fit
for a place like Eden Valley.
00:07:05.69\00:07:07.92
Yeah. It really does.
00:07:07.96\00:07:09.29
I love being there.
00:07:09.32\00:07:10.66
Excellent, excellent.
00:07:10.69\00:07:12.03
Travis Laws RN.
00:07:12.06\00:07:14.60
Sir.
00:07:14.63\00:07:15.96
You are from where Travis?
00:07:16.00\00:07:17.33
I'm originally
from Northern Idaho,
00:07:17.37\00:07:19.53
and I've been in Texas
the last about 11 years,
00:07:19.57\00:07:24.77
before coming to Colorado.
00:07:24.81\00:07:26.68
Now how long at Eden Valley?
00:07:26.71\00:07:28.51
About nine months.
00:07:28.54\00:07:30.28
And that says it all.
Everybody is all new here.
00:07:30.31\00:07:32.48
This is not the
same group that was there
00:07:32.51\00:07:33.92
when I was there.
00:07:33.95\00:07:36.79
Adventist family
growing up, Travis?
00:07:36.82\00:07:38.89
Kind of mixed.
00:07:38.92\00:07:40.26
And my parents were separated
00:07:40.29\00:07:41.86
and so my dad's
side of the family
00:07:41.89\00:07:44.03
is the, the Adventist side,
00:07:44.06\00:07:45.93
and my mother's
side of the family
00:07:45.96\00:07:47.46
are the non-Adventist sides.
00:07:47.50\00:07:49.50
I grew up with a mix
00:07:49.53\00:07:52.13
of two different
worlds so to speak.
00:07:52.17\00:07:53.50
Yeah.
00:07:53.54\00:07:54.87
When did you make
that decision for yourself
00:07:54.90\00:07:56.24
to follow the
Lord and serve Him?
00:07:56.27\00:07:58.34
Well, I kind of, I
grew up going to church.
00:07:58.37\00:08:00.98
Right after high school,
00:08:01.01\00:08:02.34
I went to Upper Columbia Academy
00:08:02.38\00:08:03.98
there, in Spangle, Washington.
00:08:04.01\00:08:05.35
And then shortly after
graduating high school,
00:08:05.38\00:08:07.32
I kind of ventured
away for several years so.
00:08:07.35\00:08:09.95
Little wilderness time.
00:08:09.98\00:08:11.32
Yeah, yeah, definitely
sometime in the wilderness,
00:08:11.35\00:08:14.46
my life took me down some,
00:08:14.49\00:08:16.02
you know,
through some poor choices
00:08:16.06\00:08:17.79
down some bad ways
00:08:17.83\00:08:19.16
and when I was
about 24, 25 years old,
00:08:19.19\00:08:23.57
through much prayer,
00:08:23.60\00:08:24.93
you know, that's
just another sign
00:08:24.97\00:08:26.30
of how prayer works you know.
00:08:26.33\00:08:28.60
I started feeling
the Holy Spirit working,
00:08:28.64\00:08:30.51
you know, and needing to
get away from, from some things
00:08:30.54\00:08:34.74
and it took me back to Texas,
00:08:34.78\00:08:38.11
and had an aunt
and uncle down there
00:08:38.15\00:08:39.85
that are very dear to me and...
00:08:39.88\00:08:42.25
I was able to get a job
and lead me back to school
00:08:42.28\00:08:46.86
and that's kind of
what led me into nursing,
00:08:46.89\00:08:51.16
met my beautiful wife and...
00:08:51.19\00:08:53.80
So we stayed in
Texas for quite a while
00:08:53.83\00:08:55.60
and, and you know the,
my Christian experiences
00:08:55.63\00:09:00.50
has definitely
been one of struggle
00:09:00.54\00:09:02.24
but it's an ongoing
and God is very good.
00:09:02.27\00:09:05.01
Praise the Lord.
00:09:05.04\00:09:06.37
Now, an RN is a profession
that is pretty portable.
00:09:06.41\00:09:09.64
You can take that
almost anywhere in a country
00:09:09.68\00:09:11.61
and get a fairly
decent paying job,
00:09:11.65\00:09:14.28
because that skill is needed.
00:09:14.32\00:09:17.65
What took you to Eden Valley?
00:09:17.69\00:09:20.39
Well, when I
graduated from nursing school,
00:09:20.42\00:09:23.76
I took a job in
the intensive care unit
00:09:23.79\00:09:26.56
in a 206 bed
hospital in Denton, Texas.
00:09:26.59\00:09:29.73
I spent about
six years in the ICU,
00:09:29.76\00:09:32.33
and then the last
couple of years were
00:09:32.37\00:09:35.60
in the cardiac cath lab.
00:09:35.64\00:09:37.31
And when you're in
traditional medicine
00:09:37.34\00:09:40.24
and Dr. Keith can
probably attest to this too.
00:09:40.28\00:09:42.04
You spend a lot of
time fixing symptoms
00:09:42.08\00:09:44.85
and you don't really
get a chance to minister
00:09:44.88\00:09:47.45
to people's true healing.
00:09:47.48\00:09:49.98
You know, you
give them medications,
00:09:50.02\00:09:51.99
you give them surgeries
00:09:52.02\00:09:54.76
and those things are
good and they're fine.
00:09:54.79\00:09:56.86
But you know, we
really wanted to,
00:09:56.89\00:10:01.66
to explore the options
00:10:01.70\00:10:03.03
of actually
helping people get better.
00:10:03.06\00:10:05.97
And, you know, we saw
a lot of the same people
00:10:06.00\00:10:09.37
coming in over and
over and over again
00:10:09.40\00:10:10.74
with the same issues and so,
00:10:10.77\00:10:14.08
we had kind of got
to know about lifestyle
00:10:14.11\00:10:16.41
work through some
family and friends and...
00:10:16.44\00:10:20.38
We stumbled across Eden Valley
00:10:20.42\00:10:21.98
and our
attention was drawn there
00:10:22.02\00:10:24.45
and there is a
long story behind it.
00:10:24.49\00:10:27.06
But the Lord is good,
and you know, all were,
00:10:27.09\00:10:30.19
so many doors had been shut.
00:10:30.23\00:10:31.59
You know, we had been
looking for places for a while,
00:10:31.63\00:10:34.36
and every door for
every place that we,
00:10:34.40\00:10:36.63
that we had tried
to go to was, was shut
00:10:36.67\00:10:38.80
and with Eden Valley, it's
like the floodgates just opened
00:10:38.83\00:10:41.70
everything that
needed to happen happened,
00:10:41.74\00:10:45.41
you know, we had a
child that was very sick.
00:10:45.44\00:10:47.68
We had the house
that needed to sell.
00:10:47.71\00:10:49.44
There is so many things
that needed to take place
00:10:49.48\00:10:51.71
for us to be able to go,
00:10:51.75\00:10:53.08
and it's like the Lord
just lined everything up
00:10:53.11\00:10:55.12
and made it happen so.
00:10:55.15\00:10:57.75
So you found yourself, Travis,
kind of moving away mentally
00:10:57.79\00:11:00.82
from traditional medicine
00:11:00.86\00:11:02.19
that wasn't to put corner phrase
00:11:02.22\00:11:04.46
is not doing it for you anymore.
00:11:04.49\00:11:06.36
Yeah, we just, you
know, we wanted to find a way
00:11:06.39\00:11:08.86
to minister in the health.
00:11:08.90\00:11:12.20
I guess the health
realm in a different way.
00:11:12.23\00:11:17.67
You know, a lot
of people that I saw
00:11:17.71\00:11:21.24
are looking for the pill.
00:11:21.28\00:11:22.61
You know, they want the
magic pill to get better,
00:11:22.64\00:11:24.81
if they don't want to
really, they're not looking
00:11:24.85\00:11:27.78
to actually make the changes.
00:11:27.82\00:11:29.45
And I guess the
difference with people
00:11:29.48\00:11:30.95
that come to
places like Eden Valley
00:11:30.99\00:11:32.79
is these people are
searching for a healthier life,
00:11:32.82\00:11:37.03
they're searching
for a, you know, a cure.
00:11:37.06\00:11:40.36
Yeah.
00:11:40.40\00:11:41.73
And, you know, the natural means
00:11:41.76\00:11:44.77
that we use at Eden Valley.
00:11:44.80\00:11:47.80
You know, they
work and we've seen.
00:11:47.84\00:11:51.34
I was blown away just in
even in my first session there
00:11:51.37\00:11:54.11
how the results are.
00:11:54.14\00:11:56.68
It was, it was, I
wasn't sure what to expect
00:11:56.71\00:11:59.21
I guess going into. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:59.25\00:12:01.88
David and Gary, you
actually do get to talk,
00:12:01.92\00:12:03.55
I'm coming to you.
00:12:03.59\00:12:05.15
We're not going to
turn you into a wood armor,
00:12:05.19\00:12:07.32
I wanted to just go
back, Dr. Keith, to you
00:12:07.36\00:12:09.69
something that Travis said,
00:12:09.72\00:12:11.06
this idea that in
tradition medicine,
00:12:11.09\00:12:14.26
and we're not
dogging tradition medicine,
00:12:14.30\00:12:16.00
just the fact that
people tend to go to doctor,
00:12:16.03\00:12:18.07
okay, I got this, give me
a pill and I can press on.
00:12:18.10\00:12:21.30
And not really have to make
any kind of systemic changes
00:12:21.34\00:12:23.81
in my lifestyle.
00:12:23.84\00:12:25.17
Just give me this
pill, and I can press on.
00:12:25.21\00:12:27.81
By the time people come
to Eden Valley is the...
00:12:27.84\00:12:30.98
And I use the
term is the sell hard
00:12:31.01\00:12:33.88
to get them to
understand that popping a pill
00:12:33.92\00:12:36.38
is not what you need.
00:12:36.42\00:12:38.12
You need to
rearrange your whole mindset
00:12:38.15\00:12:39.55
in what you're doing
00:12:39.59\00:12:40.92
or is it by the
time they get there,
00:12:40.96\00:12:42.79
they're kind of
already predisposed to think,
00:12:42.82\00:12:45.43
maybe I need to
make some changes
00:12:45.46\00:12:46.80
because this pill
thing is not going to fly.
00:12:46.83\00:12:49.16
By the time,
they've made their decision
00:12:49.20\00:12:51.63
and flown across, flown
or driven across the country
00:12:51.67\00:12:55.87
to come to us.
00:12:55.90\00:12:57.24
They're pretty much...
00:12:57.27\00:12:59.01
They've pretty much
come to that decision
00:12:59.04\00:13:02.78
that they are going
to have to make a change.
00:13:02.81\00:13:05.05
Because, Travis talks and
Travis spends a lot of time
00:13:05.08\00:13:08.35
on the phone, going over,
00:13:08.38\00:13:09.85
you know, what
it's gonna be like
00:13:09.88\00:13:12.09
and change and...
00:13:12.12\00:13:13.72
Now some people, we had
some, one family from Texas
00:13:13.76\00:13:19.43
just this last, just this month.
00:13:19.46\00:13:23.80
Two, one mother and her daughter
00:13:23.83\00:13:27.37
decided to come.
00:13:27.40\00:13:28.74
And mention that they
were coming to Colorado.
00:13:28.77\00:13:31.41
And the neighbor said,
00:13:31.44\00:13:33.58
"Well, I want to
go with you this way."
00:13:33.61\00:13:36.14
And so, she really didn't
know where she was getting into,
00:13:36.18\00:13:40.48
but she came and she enjoyed it
00:13:40.52\00:13:42.52
and it was you
know, it was fine.
00:13:42.55\00:13:46.89
It was new for
him. Praise the Lord.
00:13:46.92\00:13:48.69
Now at this point,
we usually go to music
00:13:48.72\00:13:50.59
but I think, I'm
going to hold on the music
00:13:50.63\00:13:52.53
for just a moment
00:13:52.56\00:13:53.90
because I want to get
into to two testimonies
00:13:53.93\00:13:56.33
and I don't, I don't
want to run out of time.
00:13:56.36\00:13:58.97
Because we've talked
about the kinds of things
00:13:59.00\00:14:01.34
that you do just a little bit.
00:14:01.37\00:14:02.94
And I need to mention,
00:14:02.97\00:14:04.61
Eden Valley seems to
have a particular ability
00:14:04.64\00:14:08.24
to deal with cancer.
00:14:08.28\00:14:10.38
When I was there, that was,
00:14:10.41\00:14:12.01
I don't want to
say your specialty
00:14:12.05\00:14:13.38
but certainly you
got more cancer patients,
00:14:13.42\00:14:16.79
than I think
any lifestyle center
00:14:16.82\00:14:18.49
that I was aware of.
00:14:18.52\00:14:19.85
Travis, is it still that way?
00:14:19.89\00:14:21.29
Yeah, we still, we still
see predominately cancer.
00:14:21.32\00:14:25.23
We've got a very good
aggressive cancer program.
00:14:25.26\00:14:29.33
Along with cancer though,
we do treat other thing so,
00:14:29.36\00:14:32.60
we've gotten the
reputation for cancer.
00:14:32.63\00:14:34.20
Yeah.
00:14:34.24\00:14:35.57
But it's important
to let people know too
00:14:35.60\00:14:37.47
that there is more
to it than just cancer.
00:14:37.51\00:14:39.44
We do treat the diabetes,
the obesity, heart disease,
00:14:39.47\00:14:43.48
and many other, you
know, depression and anxiety
00:14:43.51\00:14:45.95
and other, other health issues.
00:14:45.98\00:14:47.32
So you do it all. We do it all.
00:14:47.35\00:14:48.68
Yeah, but you've
gotten reputation.
00:14:48.72\00:14:50.05
And well, deserved as a place
that deals successfully dare
00:14:50.09\00:14:53.92
I say with
cancer. God be praised.
00:14:53.96\00:14:56.66
And you can't run from that,
00:14:56.69\00:14:58.03
I mean you can't
run from your record,
00:14:58.06\00:14:59.39
you've got to run
on it so, does happen.
00:14:59.43\00:15:01.10
Praise God.
00:15:01.13\00:15:02.46
All right, I want to I want
to leave you to professionals
00:15:02.50\00:15:04.60
for just a moment and
talk with David and Gary.
00:15:04.63\00:15:09.40
Maybe I'll go with David first.
00:15:09.44\00:15:12.91
Give me, just a
little background of
00:15:12.94\00:15:16.04
why you ended up at Eden Valley,
00:15:16.08\00:15:19.08
and what your
lifestyle was like before.
00:15:19.11\00:15:21.98
And what medical condition
kind of caused you to go there?
00:15:22.02\00:15:25.92
Okay, well, first of all,
00:15:25.95\00:15:29.69
I was diagnosed with
abdominal mesothelioma cancer.
00:15:29.72\00:15:35.66
Can I just say this.
00:15:35.70\00:15:37.07
He's got a great voice,
you ought to do announcing...
00:15:37.10\00:15:39.10
I'm telling, we all
tell him radio voice.
00:15:39.13\00:15:41.90
He's got a radio voice.
00:15:41.94\00:15:43.47
You can tell ad
salesman, that's a great voice.
00:15:43.51\00:15:45.94
I've been a ham radio
operators license since 1952,
00:15:45.97\00:15:49.68
60 some years, so maybe
that's where it comes from,
00:15:49.71\00:15:52.58
I don't know. Yeah.
00:15:52.61\00:15:53.95
But anyway, I was
first diagnosed a year ago
00:15:53.98\00:15:56.25
last January.
00:15:56.28\00:15:57.72
And I know, I
told my family doctor.
00:15:57.75\00:16:02.56
There is something inside of
me that just shouldn't be there.
00:16:02.59\00:16:05.09
So, the next day he had me
lined up with a CT CAT scan.
00:16:05.13\00:16:11.77
And that's when
they noticed the tumors.
00:16:11.80\00:16:15.47
So biopsy
confirmed that it was indeed
00:16:15.50\00:16:20.24
a rare mesothelioma cancer,
00:16:20.28\00:16:24.98
which there is only two
to three hundred cases a year
00:16:25.01\00:16:28.08
in United States.
00:16:28.12\00:16:29.45
Isn't mesotheliom
triggered by asbestos
00:16:29.48\00:16:32.95
or that they have any
connection with asbestos.
00:16:32.99\00:16:35.12
Yeah, therefore,
00:16:35.16\00:16:36.49
for that reason
I'll never be cured
00:16:36.52\00:16:37.89
because I've got
asbestos in my body.
00:16:37.93\00:16:41.20
But I can be in remission.
00:16:41.23\00:16:44.83
And, you know,
00:16:44.87\00:16:46.30
and I'm functioning
perfectly fine right now,
00:16:46.33\00:16:49.24
with tumors in my abdomen.
00:16:49.27\00:16:50.64
I have one on above my liver,
00:16:50.67\00:16:52.81
and I have a couple
over on this side here...
00:16:52.84\00:16:54.51
Now, let me ask you this.
00:16:54.54\00:16:56.11
How was your general
health prior to this,
00:16:56.14\00:16:58.58
where you eating,
living pretty good
00:16:58.61\00:17:00.52
or how was your general health?
00:17:00.55\00:17:01.88
Well, I was a vegetarian
00:17:01.92\00:17:03.28
and tried every way
possible to be a vegan.
00:17:03.32\00:17:06.99
But once in a while,
some ice cream or some pizza
00:17:07.02\00:17:09.49
would slip in there, you know,
00:17:09.52\00:17:11.23
but...
00:17:11.26\00:17:13.33
I got to nip at and I was 60
00:17:13.36\00:17:15.30
some pounds
heavier than I am now.
00:17:15.33\00:17:17.80
I wouldn't recommend
the weight loss program,
00:17:17.83\00:17:20.34
but it was good that
I lost the weight so.
00:17:20.37\00:17:23.17
But anyway...
00:17:23.20\00:17:24.54
You wouldn't
recommend mesothelioma?
00:17:24.57\00:17:26.47
No, I wouldn't recommend
that as a means of losing weight
00:17:26.51\00:17:29.78
by any means.
00:17:29.81\00:17:32.25
But I took great
stalk in Philippians 4:13.
00:17:32.28\00:17:38.65
"I can do all things with Christ
00:17:38.69\00:17:40.26
who strengthened me."
00:17:40.29\00:17:42.19
So I went
00:17:42.22\00:17:43.56
with all of the
traditional medical regimes,
00:17:43.59\00:17:47.80
all the things that
you're supposed to do
00:17:47.83\00:17:51.10
when you have cancer,
00:17:51.13\00:17:52.47
you know, when I
had these six rounds
00:17:52.50\00:17:54.67
of high potent
chemotherapy combined
00:17:54.70\00:18:00.34
with two
maintenance regimens after that.
00:18:00.38\00:18:04.25
How did your body
respond to the chemo?
00:18:04.28\00:18:07.28
Not well at all. I
wound up in the hospital.
00:18:07.32\00:18:09.88
They thought I was going to die.
00:18:09.92\00:18:11.25
I was in there
00:18:11.29\00:18:14.12
during most of the
month of March year ago.
00:18:14.16\00:18:18.39
And my oncologist, I
ask him, what's my...
00:18:18.46\00:18:22.40
How long I got do you think?
00:18:22.43\00:18:23.77
And he said,
"Probably about 12 months."
00:18:23.80\00:18:25.97
He told me that in February.
00:18:26.00\00:18:28.47
So I have proved him wrong.
00:18:28.50\00:18:30.41
Amen. Praise the Lord.
00:18:30.44\00:18:31.94
But anyway the treatment,
00:18:31.97\00:18:38.71
actually, during while I
was having the treatment,
00:18:38.75\00:18:41.68
the cancer actually metastasized
00:18:41.72\00:18:43.65
into my diaphragm.
00:18:43.69\00:18:46.82
Now, I had found, I
did a lot of research.
00:18:46.86\00:18:49.29
I couldn't even
spell mesothelioma,
00:18:49.32\00:18:51.66
when I started.
00:18:51.69\00:18:53.29
But I started, I
hit the ground running,
00:18:53.33\00:18:55.66
and I started doing
things that I thought I could do
00:18:55.70\00:18:58.33
even before I had an
oncologist to try to possibly
00:18:58.37\00:19:04.21
help the the situation of
getting rid of the cancer.
00:19:04.24\00:19:06.41
I went on oxygen every night.
00:19:06.44\00:19:08.64
For example, I bought
an oxygen concentrator
00:19:08.68\00:19:11.58
and some things like that
00:19:11.61\00:19:12.95
and tried to limit
sweets, sugars and so on.
00:19:12.98\00:19:16.65
But anyway, to
make a long story short,
00:19:16.69\00:19:22.99
God was closing the
doors on traditional treatment.
00:19:23.02\00:19:27.33
I had connected up
with the surgeon in Omaha,
00:19:27.36\00:19:32.10
that does a life saving
medical surgical procedure
00:19:32.13\00:19:38.07
in which they go
in, and they remove
00:19:38.11\00:19:39.71
all of the cancer
from your abdomen.
00:19:39.74\00:19:42.04
Then they close you
up with a couple of tubes
00:19:42.08\00:19:44.61
coming out of the
incision and they pump
00:19:44.65\00:19:47.22
a 109 degree Fahrenheit
saline solution of water
00:19:47.25\00:19:51.25
with the chemo
throughout your abdominal cavity
00:19:51.29\00:19:54.32
for 60 to 90 minutes.
00:19:54.36\00:19:56.69
And the purpose of this
00:19:56.73\00:19:58.06
is to kill off
residual cancer cells
00:19:58.09\00:20:01.66
that might be floating around,
00:20:01.70\00:20:03.33
they may be hadn't
attached to the blood source yet
00:20:03.37\00:20:06.00
or any peripheral cells
that might have been missed
00:20:06.03\00:20:09.30
in the surgical procedure.
00:20:09.34\00:20:12.07
So I know, Dr. Logis'
nurse in Omaha, they said,
00:20:12.11\00:20:15.38
"We can in a perfect world
we can virtually guarantee you
00:20:15.41\00:20:18.55
five to seven years
longevity with this procedure."
00:20:18.58\00:20:21.92
She said, "We got patients
that have been alive 19 years
00:20:21.95\00:20:25.62
since the procedure."
00:20:25.65\00:20:27.39
So that sounded pretty good.
00:20:27.42\00:20:28.76
I want back to Omaha, they did
another CT scan and they said,
00:20:28.79\00:20:32.59
"We're sorry to inform
you but you were no longer
00:20:32.63\00:20:34.83
a candidate for surgery."
00:20:34.86\00:20:37.43
Because it did
metastasized into my diaphragm.
00:20:37.47\00:20:41.24
The doctor said,
00:20:41.27\00:20:42.60
"We have to rebuild
so much of your diaphragm
00:20:42.64\00:20:45.71
using muscle from your
leg, muscle from so on."
00:20:45.74\00:20:48.84
And he says, "There is a chance
we could get into that nerve,
00:20:48.88\00:20:51.28
and if we did, you
would be on a respiratory
00:20:51.31\00:20:54.18
the rest of your life."
00:20:54.22\00:20:55.55
And he says,
"Neither one of us want that."
00:20:55.58\00:20:57.92
So that was no longer an option.
00:20:57.95\00:21:01.96
It turned out
that clinical studies
00:21:01.99\00:21:05.16
for one reason or another.
00:21:05.19\00:21:06.53
The door was closed on those.
00:21:06.56\00:21:08.83
We had Eden Valley in mind.
00:21:08.86\00:21:10.43
We fully intended
to go to Eden Valley
00:21:10.47\00:21:12.90
after my surgery
to recuperate there
00:21:12.93\00:21:15.70
and to just take what
Eden Valley had to offer
00:21:15.74\00:21:19.77
which was plenty.
00:21:19.81\00:21:21.78
But they say, as it was,
00:21:21.81\00:21:23.14
we went to Eden Valley a
little sooner than we thought
00:21:23.18\00:21:25.51
'cause all of the
other doors and I...
00:21:25.55\00:21:27.72
In the process I
just said, you know Lord,
00:21:27.75\00:21:33.25
I put too much emphasis
on the strength that I have,
00:21:33.29\00:21:36.93
which has not worked.
00:21:36.96\00:21:38.93
So I am giving my
life totally to you.
00:21:38.96\00:21:42.66
If you want to take
me, I am 81 years old.
00:21:42.70\00:21:44.93
If you want to
take me, that's okay.
00:21:44.97\00:21:47.54
But if you want
me to stay around
00:21:47.57\00:21:49.20
and become the
testimony for this test
00:21:49.24\00:21:51.37
that I've been through,
00:21:51.41\00:21:52.77
I will sing your praises
till the end of the world.
00:21:52.81\00:21:54.84
Amen.
00:21:54.88\00:21:56.21
Now, let me hold
you just for a second.
00:21:56.24\00:21:57.58
Dr. Keith, what kind of
shape was he in when he came?
00:21:57.61\00:22:00.72
Well, he didn't has a
good a color on his face
00:22:00.75\00:22:03.22
and he wouldn't...
00:22:03.25\00:22:05.49
he just weren't
quite as vigorous.
00:22:05.52\00:22:09.52
He can barely walk from
the car to the front door.
00:22:09.56\00:22:11.69
Yeah, I was very,
very weak. Very weak.
00:22:11.73\00:22:15.03
Where you up to 60 pounds
00:22:15.06\00:22:16.43
or had you begun
to come back down?
00:22:16.46\00:22:18.13
I had begun to lose most of it.
00:22:18.17\00:22:19.73
Yeah, I have lost.
Yeah, the hard way.
00:22:19.77\00:22:21.10
Yeah, the hard way, yeah.
00:22:21.14\00:22:24.44
Travis, what did you see?
00:22:24.47\00:22:26.04
You know, you
are the lifestyle guy
00:22:26.07\00:22:27.94
when you got a
specimen coming in
00:22:27.98\00:22:30.88
not in such great shape?
00:22:30.91\00:22:32.71
Yeah, it's
actually Dave's, Dave's,
00:22:32.75\00:22:35.85
I got a special
place in my heart.
00:22:35.88\00:22:37.22
His first session with
us was my first session
00:22:37.25\00:22:40.02
at Eden Valley.
00:22:40.06\00:22:41.46
And when he got
there, he, like I said,
00:22:41.49\00:22:44.53
he was weak and he struggled.
00:22:44.56\00:22:49.26
He used the cane to get
around, and he struggled
00:22:49.30\00:22:51.83
to walk from...
00:22:51.87\00:22:53.20
Going up the stairs.
00:22:53.23\00:22:54.57
Yeah, had a hard
time going up the stairs,
00:22:54.60\00:22:56.04
struggled to get from
the car of the front door.
00:22:56.07\00:22:57.94
And, well, I think
00:22:57.97\00:23:01.28
it was the second
week of the session.
00:23:01.31\00:23:04.15
He was there for 18 days,
00:23:04.18\00:23:05.51
and the second
week of the program.
00:23:05.55\00:23:07.38
We look out the
window and he is walking,
00:23:07.42\00:23:09.52
walking down to breakfast,
00:23:09.55\00:23:10.89
and he's got
his cane in his hand
00:23:10.92\00:23:12.25
but instead of hobbling
on, he is twirling it around.
00:23:12.29\00:23:16.39
Praise God.
00:23:16.42\00:23:17.76
It was remarkable the
difference that we saw
00:23:17.79\00:23:19.96
just within a couple of weeks,
00:23:20.00\00:23:21.73
and David has been through
five sessions now, David?
00:23:21.76\00:23:26.03
Five sessions.
Yes. Five sessions.
00:23:26.07\00:23:28.27
So, David, you...
00:23:28.30\00:23:30.21
the medical
profession had pretty much
00:23:30.24\00:23:31.67
washed their hands of you
00:23:31.71\00:23:33.04
as far as just kind of,
there's not much we can do.
00:23:33.07\00:23:34.41
Yes.
00:23:34.44\00:23:35.78
I will say that the
chemo did do some good
00:23:35.81\00:23:37.51
because my CA 125,
00:23:37.55\00:23:39.65
which is a
cancer activity marker
00:23:39.68\00:23:41.85
for the type of
cancer that I have
00:23:41.88\00:23:43.95
was 519 before I took,
00:23:43.99\00:23:46.65
before I started the
regimen of chemotherapy.
00:23:46.69\00:23:50.83
After I
completed that in sometime
00:23:50.86\00:23:53.19
in July of last year,
00:23:53.23\00:23:56.77
they did another CA
125, and it was 120.
00:23:56.80\00:24:01.57
So it had come
down significantly.
00:24:01.60\00:24:03.87
A normal person without
cancer has a CA 125 marker
00:24:03.91\00:24:07.64
of 35 or less.
00:24:07.68\00:24:09.14
I see. I see.
00:24:09.18\00:24:10.51
So anyway, I
want to Eden Valley.
00:24:10.55\00:24:12.61
I liked what I saw.
00:24:12.65\00:24:14.08
The people were so
helpful, so knowledgeable.
00:24:14.12\00:24:18.35
You could just
tell that God was there.
00:24:18.39\00:24:20.16
Praise the Lord.
00:24:20.19\00:24:21.56
And so I decide to stay on.
00:24:21.59\00:24:25.29
I went to the second session.
00:24:25.33\00:24:27.63
And I kept getting
little better all the time
00:24:27.66\00:24:29.63
where I felt that
I was getting better
00:24:29.66\00:24:31.00
and I was.
00:24:31.03\00:24:32.37
It is consecutively,
you just lengthen the time.
00:24:32.40\00:24:33.74
Yes. Yes.
00:24:33.77\00:24:35.10
I went through three sessions
up through the end of November.
00:24:35.14\00:24:41.48
At that time, I think
my CA 125 was down to 101.
00:24:41.51\00:24:48.45
So I went home
through the month of December.
00:24:48.48\00:24:51.29
And because of the
holidays and so on,
00:24:51.32\00:24:54.22
and kept on with all of the,
00:24:54.26\00:24:56.52
doing everything that
I was instructed to do
00:24:56.56\00:24:59.89
as best as I could.
00:24:59.93\00:25:01.60
And anyway, I had a chance
to take a blood test there
00:25:01.63\00:25:06.00
in Wichita a very
expensive blood test,
00:25:06.03\00:25:09.47
because we belong to a group
00:25:09.50\00:25:10.91
that is associated
with the hospital there.
00:25:10.94\00:25:14.01
And for a few dollars
more, I could get a PSA test.
00:25:14.04\00:25:18.61
So I went ahead
and did that too.
00:25:18.65\00:25:20.05
And I thought it
was very interesting
00:25:20.08\00:25:21.52
because my PSA for
the last several years,
00:25:21.55\00:25:25.72
it's always run
anywhere from 2.4 to 4.0,
00:25:25.75\00:25:29.32
which is you know suggestive
that there might be a problem.
00:25:29.36\00:25:33.13
But my family
doctor said, "Well,
00:25:33.16\00:25:35.06
you know, at your age
80, you know, 79, 80, 81."
00:25:35.10\00:25:39.30
He says,
"Something is probably...
00:25:39.33\00:25:41.04
something else is
probably gonna get you
00:25:41.07\00:25:42.67
before prostate will."
00:25:42.70\00:25:44.44
So I said, "Okay."
00:25:44.47\00:25:45.81
You know...
00:25:45.84\00:25:47.18
I took the test.
00:25:47.21\00:25:48.54
And I was astonished
00:25:48.58\00:25:49.91
because the PSA
came back to 0.6.
00:25:49.94\00:25:53.75
Wow, that's a kind of numbers
after you had prostate surgery,
00:25:53.78\00:25:56.65
you get those kind of numbers.
00:25:56.69\00:25:58.02
Yeah.
00:25:58.05\00:25:59.39
And the only thing I can figure
00:25:59.42\00:26:00.76
is that the fever
treatments did it.
00:26:00.79\00:26:02.12
Because I went back
for two more sessions
00:26:02.16\00:26:04.36
in January and
February and at the end of that
00:26:04.39\00:26:07.86
I had completed
71 fever treatments.
00:26:07.90\00:26:11.13
You told me that
yesterday we were talking,
00:26:11.17\00:26:13.00
I have to bow to you
00:26:13.03\00:26:14.67
as the king of
the fever treatments.
00:26:14.70\00:26:17.27
I've taken a
few of those things.
00:26:17.31\00:26:19.11
And I...
00:26:19.14\00:26:20.78
They do good.
00:26:20.81\00:26:22.21
But it's like no
one ever says, "Wow,
00:26:22.24\00:26:26.08
I really can't wait
till my next chemotherapy."
00:26:26.11\00:26:28.78
You know, you don't do that.
00:26:28.82\00:26:30.59
And very few people say,
00:26:30.62\00:26:31.95
"Well, I can't wait till
my next fever treatment."
00:26:31.99\00:26:35.49
But you know
that it's doing good.
00:26:35.52\00:26:38.39
I think of all of the
things that stand out in my mind
00:26:38.43\00:26:42.13
about Eden Valley is
the fever treatments.
00:26:42.16\00:26:44.47
You one does not forget.
00:26:44.50\00:26:45.87
And for you to take 71?
00:26:45.90\00:26:48.67
I have completed 71, yeah.
00:26:48.70\00:26:50.04
He's done his PhD
this last session.
00:26:50.07\00:26:51.97
Yeah, indeed.
00:26:52.01\00:26:53.34
That's why you are a
graduate fever treatment guy.
00:26:53.38\00:26:55.78
I took, I may be 14 or so.
00:26:55.81\00:26:58.11
But I just...
00:26:58.15\00:26:59.48
God bless you.
00:26:59.51\00:27:01.45
I didn't see any
self respect in term
00:27:01.48\00:27:02.92
that I could live in that
after 71 fever treatments.
00:27:02.95\00:27:06.52
That is amazing.
00:27:06.55\00:27:08.06
Doctor, real quick,
tell us what that is?
00:27:08.09\00:27:10.96
What that fever treatment does?
00:27:10.99\00:27:12.33
And what are you
seeking to accomplish by that.
00:27:12.36\00:27:13.70
Okay, and then
recall that David said
00:27:13.73\00:27:16.06
probably what the
oncologists were doing,
00:27:16.10\00:27:17.97
or the special surgery.
00:27:18.00\00:27:19.87
They were gonna
pump his abdomen,
00:27:19.90\00:27:21.67
do the surgery
00:27:21.70\00:27:23.04
and then pump his
abdomen with the chemo,
00:27:23.07\00:27:26.31
heat it to 109 degrees,
00:27:26.34\00:27:28.94
so regular medicine recognizes
that temperatures like that
00:27:28.98\00:27:35.68
do kill cancer cells.
00:27:35.72\00:27:39.95
We started usually
getting a hydrotherapy tank,
00:27:39.99\00:27:45.43
with the water starting usually
at 110 degrees Fahrenheit,
00:27:45.46\00:27:50.13
and we monitor you
and put ice on your back
00:27:50.17\00:27:56.71
and as your
temperature comes up,
00:27:56.74\00:27:58.57
we put ice and
cool pads on your head.
00:27:58.61\00:28:01.31
So we keep the head cool.
00:28:01.34\00:28:03.61
But our goal is to
bring the body temperature up
00:28:03.65\00:28:07.45
to 104 for 20 minutes.
00:28:07.48\00:28:10.49
That's our goal.
00:28:10.52\00:28:12.39
And to do that five days a week,
00:28:12.42\00:28:14.72
so the heat does make,
00:28:14.76\00:28:18.96
does kill cancer cells
and makes them more fragile
00:28:18.99\00:28:22.83
and if they don't, you know,
00:28:22.86\00:28:25.70
if they don't die
then, they're gonna die soon.
00:28:25.73\00:28:30.64
It makes them more fragile,
susceptible to the good,
00:28:30.67\00:28:34.01
the immune system
boosting, other things
00:28:34.04\00:28:36.44
that we are
doing at Eden Valley.
00:28:36.48\00:28:38.41
Now you were, David,
able to hang in there
00:28:38.45\00:28:41.88
to get up to the 104.
00:28:41.92\00:28:43.55
Yes.
00:28:43.59\00:28:44.92
I think the minimal time
that I've ever spent above 104
00:28:44.95\00:28:47.72
was like 25 minutes may be
00:28:47.76\00:28:51.23
and the maximum was
48 minutes above104.
00:28:51.26\00:28:54.00
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:54.03\00:28:55.56
I used to try myself
that I could hang in there
00:28:55.60\00:28:58.93
and I did.
00:28:58.97\00:29:00.30
But when I was done, you
know, you lay down on the table
00:29:00.34\00:29:02.57
and you are basically
comatose for the next hour,
00:29:02.60\00:29:05.21
because it does pull out of you,
00:29:05.24\00:29:06.61
you go to sleep
so deep and so fast.
00:29:06.64\00:29:09.38
But you actually
feel pretty good,
00:29:09.41\00:29:11.31
you know, when you, when
you after you've done that.
00:29:11.35\00:29:14.02
And you know, you're doing
something good for your body.
00:29:14.05\00:29:16.08
David, I want to hold
just a second, and go to Gary.
00:29:16.12\00:29:18.99
Gary, where are you from?
00:29:19.02\00:29:20.62
Colorado. A Colorado guy.
00:29:20.66\00:29:23.53
Adventist? Yes.
00:29:23.56\00:29:24.89
Growing up? Yes.
00:29:24.93\00:29:26.26
Okay, tell me about what
brought you to Eden Valley
00:29:26.29\00:29:29.80
before and then
we'll take a look at it
00:29:29.83\00:29:31.17
what's going on right now.
00:29:31.20\00:29:33.23
Well, in '06 I was
diagnosed with prostate cancer.
00:29:33.27\00:29:37.34
And then went through
the trauma of you know that,
00:29:37.37\00:29:41.18
when you think you
are healthy person.
00:29:41.21\00:29:43.21
And so in '07 in just
January of '07 I had surgery,
00:29:43.24\00:29:49.45
removed the prostate
00:29:49.48\00:29:51.42
and then became vegetarian
00:29:51.45\00:29:56.73
and also worked on vegan.
00:29:56.76\00:30:00.66
And then as progress time,
00:30:00.70\00:30:05.50
last year my PSA
score went from 2 to 4
00:30:05.53\00:30:12.41
and my urologist
recommended that I do radiation.
00:30:12.44\00:30:18.41
And I just didn't
really want to do radiation
00:30:18.45\00:30:22.38
after studying
about it and everything.
00:30:22.42\00:30:24.65
So I knew Lisa,
and she recommended
00:30:24.69\00:30:27.92
that I come to Eden Valley,
which was a great program.
00:30:27.96\00:30:34.23
So lifestyle wise
you were pretty straight.
00:30:34.26\00:30:36.36
You are veganish vegetarian.
00:30:36.40\00:30:40.24
Right.
00:30:40.27\00:30:41.60
So that's not a factor.
00:30:41.64\00:30:45.34
You're asymptomatic,
00:30:45.37\00:30:46.84
just your numbers
sort of alerted you.
00:30:46.88\00:30:50.65
Right.
00:30:50.68\00:30:52.01
Yes, and, and through
the years they are from
00:30:52.05\00:30:55.78
when we became vegetarian in '07
00:30:55.82\00:31:00.39
you know, I wasn't as
healthy as eating habits.
00:31:00.42\00:31:04.69
So Eden Valley really
helped us to get back on track
00:31:04.73\00:31:07.86
with that, new things.
00:31:07.90\00:31:11.27
So it was really a great program
00:31:11.30\00:31:13.44
from the any standpoint.
00:31:13.47\00:31:14.80
So it was not a drastic change
00:31:14.84\00:31:17.27
as far as lifestyle
is concerned for you,
00:31:17.31\00:31:19.47
just sort of an
adjustment, more of a tweaking
00:31:19.51\00:31:21.78
than a radical kind
of rearranging of your.
00:31:21.81\00:31:23.61
Right. Right.
00:31:23.65\00:31:26.21
And you stayed for...?
00:31:26.25\00:31:29.08
I was there for
the 18 day program.
00:31:29.12\00:31:30.45
For the 18 day program.
00:31:30.49\00:31:31.82
So you did fever treatment also.
00:31:31.85\00:31:33.76
Yes I did.
00:31:33.79\00:31:36.76
I was not the king of the tank.
00:31:36.79\00:31:40.83
It is something. It
is really something.
00:31:40.86\00:31:45.70
Travis, was David
there when you, when you
00:31:45.73\00:31:49.07
Gary, there when you came?
00:31:49.10\00:31:51.11
Gary, yeah, he was there.
00:31:51.14\00:31:54.38
I had been
there for a while now,
00:31:54.41\00:31:56.48
when Gary...
00:31:56.51\00:31:57.85
because you were
there in January?
00:31:57.88\00:31:59.21
January.
00:31:59.25\00:32:00.58
Yeah, you came to
the January program so.
00:32:00.62\00:32:03.92
You know, we had a
delightful experience.
00:32:03.95\00:32:06.09
It's always
interesting to see people
00:32:06.12\00:32:07.62
when they get in that hot water
and how different people react.
00:32:07.66\00:32:11.49
You have people that
are sometimes very stoic.
00:32:11.53\00:32:14.10
You have some
people that kind of...
00:32:14.13\00:32:16.06
You have to really encourage
00:32:16.10\00:32:17.97
and Gary was one
of the stoic people.
00:32:18.00\00:32:19.73
He sat in there,
00:32:19.77\00:32:21.10
but you could see this look
of determination on his face.
00:32:21.14\00:32:24.01
And, yeah, we would be
getting up there close to 104,
00:32:24.04\00:32:27.61
and, you know, that's
when we get to that 104 mark.
00:32:27.64\00:32:31.18
We start that 20 minute time
00:32:31.21\00:32:32.65
that's when we
start counting down.
00:32:32.68\00:32:34.02
Yeah.
00:32:34.05\00:32:35.38
Gary, how you
doing? "Yep, hmm-mm."
00:32:35.42\00:32:38.95
You all right? "Hmm-mm."
00:32:38.99\00:32:41.72
I went out.
00:32:41.76\00:32:43.96
We have to move
the clock off the wall
00:32:43.99\00:32:45.69
where he couldn't see it
'cause he would be, he'd be...
00:32:45.73\00:32:48.10
'Cause you start
clock watching us.
00:32:48.13\00:32:49.46
Yeah. Yeah so.
00:32:49.50\00:32:55.24
He is a tough guy,
and it's a testimony.
00:32:55.27\00:32:58.37
His result show it.
00:32:58.41\00:32:59.74
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:32:59.77\00:33:01.11
So you got the results
that you were looking for?
00:33:01.14\00:33:05.11
Yes. Yes.
00:33:05.15\00:33:06.58
And continued healthy eating.
00:33:06.61\00:33:13.09
I think that's
really been a key.
00:33:13.12\00:33:15.29
And a real thing
that we encourage us
00:33:15.32\00:33:19.23
at Eden Valley.
00:33:19.26\00:33:21.10
I can't say enough
about their health program
00:33:21.13\00:33:23.37
as far as the
food, and the exercise,
00:33:23.40\00:33:26.27
and sunshine
and all those things
00:33:26.30\00:33:29.54
that they do there.
00:33:29.57\00:33:30.91
Yes.
00:33:30.94\00:33:32.27
Travis, as lifestyle
guy, give me some sense of
00:33:32.31\00:33:35.34
the kind of regime that
you take your patients through.
00:33:35.38\00:33:39.08
And I guess it's
tailored to what they present
00:33:39.11\00:33:40.68
with when they come.
00:33:40.72\00:33:42.05
Right.
00:33:42.08\00:33:43.42
So, you know, the program
is all, it's individualized.
00:33:43.45\00:33:46.32
You know we have protocols
that we have established.
00:33:46.35\00:33:49.49
But those protocols are adjusted
00:33:49.52\00:33:51.03
based on each individual.
00:33:51.06\00:33:52.49
So you know we have
certain goals with cancer.
00:33:52.53\00:33:56.87
So obviously our treatment,
our treatments with cancer
00:33:56.90\00:33:59.50
kind of centered
around the fever baths.
00:33:59.53\00:34:04.54
And that's the most
aggressive treatment
00:34:04.57\00:34:08.11
that we have for cancer.
00:34:08.14\00:34:09.48
That doesn't
work for every body.
00:34:09.51\00:34:10.85
For example,
00:34:10.88\00:34:12.21
if you have
diabetes along with cancer.
00:34:12.25\00:34:13.58
Some diabetics cannot
get in that hot water,
00:34:13.62\00:34:15.08
because of the poor blood flow
00:34:15.12\00:34:20.16
to the extremities and the feet.
00:34:20.19\00:34:22.62
So we don't want
to damage any thing.
00:34:22.66\00:34:24.29
We want to help.
00:34:24.33\00:34:25.79
So, you know, we have
to kind of tailor things
00:34:25.83\00:34:30.17
to what each person can handle
and what their needs are so.
00:34:30.20\00:34:36.17
You mentioned or touched
on the hyperbaric chamber
00:34:36.20\00:34:38.71
When I was there, I
took a couple of visits
00:34:38.74\00:34:41.04
but it was off site.
00:34:41.08\00:34:42.41
Do you have one on site?
00:34:42.44\00:34:43.81
I know you are
working to get that.
00:34:43.85\00:34:45.68
Yeah, we have two
00:34:45.71\00:34:47.75
soft chamber
hyperbarics on campus.
00:34:47.78\00:34:49.12
Oh, you do.
00:34:49.15\00:34:50.49
I should come
back just for that.
00:34:50.52\00:34:53.15
We have to go into
town to do that back then.
00:34:53.19\00:34:55.89
Yeah, you know, one thing
that I appreciate it about,
00:34:55.92\00:34:59.89
about the
program at Eden Valley,
00:34:59.93\00:35:02.53
we've got a great staff there.
00:35:02.56\00:35:04.73
Dr. Keith spends a lot of
time researching, studying.
00:35:04.77\00:35:09.57
My wife and I do
a lot of reading.
00:35:09.60\00:35:12.07
We have our herbalist Blauch.
We call him the professor.
00:35:12.11\00:35:16.51
He's gonna hate
me for saying that.
00:35:16.54\00:35:18.61
He's constantly, he's constantly
00:35:18.65\00:35:21.02
studying and researching so we.
00:35:21.05\00:35:23.28
You know, we want
our program to grow.
00:35:23.32\00:35:25.35
You know, we don't
want to be stuck in,
00:35:25.39\00:35:27.46
well, this is
what we've always done
00:35:27.49\00:35:28.96
because new
knowledge comes about.
00:35:28.99\00:35:31.06
We get new insights.
00:35:31.09\00:35:32.43
We learn new
things in our program,
00:35:32.46\00:35:33.80
even in the last, you
know, the time that I've been
00:35:33.83\00:35:35.46
our program has
evolved and it's grown
00:35:35.50\00:35:38.10
and, you know
that's, that's a great thing.
00:35:38.13\00:35:40.40
So one of the things that we've,
00:35:40.44\00:35:42.50
that we've put together
is with these hyperbarics,
00:35:42.54\00:35:45.37
how can we utilize those
to fit the needs of our guest.
00:35:45.41\00:35:49.51
How can we implement them
to, to better the program and...
00:35:49.54\00:35:55.58
What we started
doing along with,
00:35:55.62\00:35:57.05
with some new
diet changes with our,
00:35:57.09\00:35:59.95
with our cancer
guest is that they,
00:35:59.99\00:36:02.02
you know, they spend
their time in the fever tank,
00:36:02.06\00:36:06.09
killing cancer and
then we let them recover
00:36:06.13\00:36:08.76
in the hyperbaric for an hour.
00:36:08.80\00:36:10.13
Oh, nice. Yeah, I like that.
00:36:10.17\00:36:12.93
For those who may not know
what a hyperbaric chamber does
00:36:12.97\00:36:15.10
and what it's for.
00:36:15.14\00:36:16.47
Walk us through that real quick?
00:36:16.50\00:36:17.84
So hyperbaric
oxygen therapy it's...
00:36:17.87\00:36:20.78
It's basically being
pressurized oxygen...
00:36:20.81\00:36:23.21
It was the treatment
00:36:23.24\00:36:24.58
that was centered
around scuba diving.
00:36:24.61\00:36:26.75
So people that
would go to depth in,
00:36:26.78\00:36:29.75
there are some
issues you can get
00:36:29.78\00:36:31.62
from coming up too
fast, or being down too low,
00:36:31.65\00:36:34.12
and that's called the bends.
00:36:34.16\00:36:35.99
And hyperbaric
chambers came about
00:36:36.02\00:36:39.03
to basically put
people in the same pressure
00:36:39.06\00:36:41.96
that they would be at
depth when they're scuba diving.
00:36:42.00\00:36:44.77
And different
chambers are rated differently,
00:36:44.80\00:36:47.57
but it's basically.
00:36:47.60\00:36:48.94
It's putting you at pressure,
00:36:48.97\00:36:51.37
so our chambers go to
one atmospheric pressure,
00:36:51.41\00:36:55.68
which is not a lot,
00:36:55.71\00:36:58.18
some of the more like things
00:36:58.21\00:37:00.45
you would see at
the larger hospital,
00:37:00.48\00:37:01.85
the solid chambers can go up
to six to eight atmospheres...
00:37:01.88\00:37:05.82
But in a oxygen
rich environment.
00:37:05.85\00:37:07.49
Yes, in an
oxygen rich environment.
00:37:07.52\00:37:09.76
Our chambers are
not 100 percent oxygen,
00:37:09.79\00:37:11.76
they are mixed air.
00:37:11.79\00:37:13.13
It's under pressure
00:37:13.16\00:37:14.53
and so what that does
when people are in there.
00:37:14.56\00:37:16.90
It saturates the
blood more thoroughly,
00:37:16.93\00:37:19.40
it increases the
oxygen supply to the blood.
00:37:19.43\00:37:24.27
Obviously, the healthy
tissues are given more oxygen
00:37:24.31\00:37:28.21
and the thing that we
had to piece together was
00:37:28.24\00:37:32.78
how does that affect cancer?
00:37:32.81\00:37:35.35
And that's work, what
we found with diet changes,
00:37:35.38\00:37:39.85
we've
implemented some like I said,
00:37:39.89\00:37:41.39
some diet changes too
to work with the oxygen,
00:37:41.42\00:37:45.93
you know, oxygen use by
itself does very little.
00:37:45.96\00:37:50.20
But when you apply, what
we call a ketogenic diet,
00:37:50.23\00:37:55.97
very low carbohydrates,
00:37:56.00\00:37:57.97
high healthy
plant based proteins,
00:37:58.01\00:38:00.61
healthy fats, coconut
oil, avocados, nuts, flaxseed,
00:38:00.64\00:38:05.81
chia seeds, things like that.
00:38:05.85\00:38:07.78
When you, when you
combine that with oxygen,
00:38:07.82\00:38:10.72
it forces the cancer cells
00:38:10.75\00:38:14.26
to leave an
environment that they like,
00:38:14.29\00:38:17.66
to an environment
that they don't like.
00:38:17.69\00:38:19.83
And it doesn't make them happy.
00:38:19.86\00:38:23.00
And Dr. Keith, I'm sorry...
00:38:23.03\00:38:24.47
Travis, you're close on
that, you agree with that.
00:38:24.50\00:38:27.20
Yes. We want to emphasize that.
00:38:27.24\00:38:30.17
It's been
studied over the years,
00:38:30.21\00:38:31.74
and that we don't
want any misconceptions.
00:38:31.77\00:38:34.74
Oxygen does not
directly kill cancer cells.
00:38:34.78\00:38:39.88
It is true that cancer
cells have learned to survive
00:38:39.91\00:38:43.08
in a low oxygen environment,
00:38:43.12\00:38:45.79
because they start
growing without a blood supply.
00:38:45.82\00:38:48.56
So they and then later
they send out signals to draw,
00:38:48.59\00:38:54.26
to draw new vessels to
them and then that's part
00:38:54.30\00:38:58.03
of how vegetables,
tomatoes and soybeans.
00:38:58.07\00:39:02.97
Many of these
phytochemicals, plant chemicals
00:39:03.00\00:39:08.21
will inhibit the
formation of a new artery
00:39:08.24\00:39:12.05
to the cancer cell,
00:39:12.08\00:39:13.65
so anyway cancer cells
have learned to survive
00:39:13.68\00:39:17.75
on less oxygen.
00:39:17.79\00:39:19.75
But, oxygen...
00:39:19.79\00:39:21.39
but when they get
oxygen, it's fine with them.
00:39:21.42\00:39:24.76
They're maybe even happier
00:39:24.79\00:39:26.76
so oxygen does
not kill cancer cells,
00:39:26.80\00:39:30.20
but with the ketogenic diet.
00:39:30.23\00:39:34.10
And of course, if you
Google ketogenic diet,
00:39:34.14\00:39:36.57
you're going to come
up with the Atkins diet
00:39:36.60\00:39:39.04
and such like that,
00:39:39.07\00:39:40.41
which having meat, and meat fat,
00:39:40.44\00:39:43.75
which is
inflammatory and inflammation
00:39:43.78\00:39:47.12
will feed and drive cancer.
00:39:47.15\00:39:49.85
So we have the
vegan ketogenic diet.
00:39:49.88\00:39:53.96
And cancer cells
thrive on glucose.
00:39:53.99\00:40:00.03
And glycogen stores things
00:40:00.06\00:40:02.00
that break down
really on glucose.
00:40:02.03\00:40:05.07
Cancer cells almost primarily,
00:40:05.10\00:40:09.64
Travis put this
in layman's terms,
00:40:09.67\00:40:11.77
and we'll use a
little more in doctor terms,
00:40:11.81\00:40:14.38
but there's two
different types of metabolism
00:40:14.41\00:40:17.15
of producing energy in the cell.
00:40:17.18\00:40:19.85
Glycolysis which is
just simply use split glucose
00:40:19.88\00:40:24.42
and you make two
units of ATP and,
00:40:24.45\00:40:28.49
and that's what
cancer cells do primarily.
00:40:28.52\00:40:32.53
They don't...
00:40:32.56\00:40:36.16
They don't go on to use
00:40:36.20\00:40:37.53
the more
efficient Krebs cycle that,
00:40:37.57\00:40:42.17
that the rest of
our cells can do.
00:40:42.20\00:40:44.01
So anyway, if we can starve
00:40:44.04\00:40:46.21
the cancer cell of
carbohydrates starch glucose
00:40:46.24\00:40:51.98
and provide mainly
just fiber and some protein
00:40:52.01\00:40:56.45
and even a little coconut oil,
00:40:56.48\00:41:00.99
which is readily
used as fuel by the body.
00:41:01.02\00:41:06.56
If you Google this, the
ketogenic diet is boosted
00:41:06.59\00:41:11.20
somewhat by oxygen
by hyperbaric therapy.
00:41:11.23\00:41:15.57
So, we're using the
vegan ketogenic diet
00:41:15.60\00:41:20.54
or 100 percent plant based diet,
00:41:20.58\00:41:24.35
plus the hyperbaric chambers
00:41:24.38\00:41:26.01
and together they
have an anti-cancer effect.
00:41:26.05\00:41:29.12
Praise the Lord.
00:41:29.15\00:41:30.49
And I need to say
this, both you guys
00:41:30.52\00:41:32.42
David and Gary
00:41:32.45\00:41:34.49
weight wise, you
look pretty good.
00:41:34.52\00:41:37.19
Like you are right
about where you ought to be.
00:41:37.23\00:41:41.10
Travis, you're not starving
them at least when I was there.
00:41:41.13\00:41:45.67
The only changes we stop eating
00:41:45.70\00:41:47.47
I think about 2-3
o'clock in the afternoon,
00:41:47.50\00:41:49.67
which you actually get
used to the after a while,
00:41:49.70\00:41:51.34
and it's preferred
but as far as quantity,
00:41:51.37\00:41:54.54
I don't recall
starving myself by any stuff,
00:41:54.58\00:41:57.91
you eat like a horse.
00:41:57.95\00:41:59.35
But the weight comes off,
00:41:59.38\00:42:00.72
because of the kinds of
things that you're eating.
00:42:00.75\00:42:03.32
And I was, I was
incredibly impressed
00:42:03.35\00:42:06.72
with the quality of the food.
00:42:06.76\00:42:08.79
And the stuff tastes good.
00:42:08.82\00:42:10.86
So you don't feel
like you're being deprived.
00:42:10.89\00:42:12.39
Did you guys feel it in anyway
that you have been deprived?
00:42:12.43\00:42:14.43
The food was wonderful.
00:42:14.46\00:42:15.80
It was wonderful. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:15.83\00:42:17.77
Very, very
beautifully presented to it.
00:42:17.80\00:42:20.44
Every, every meal, every plate
was so artistically designed
00:42:20.47\00:42:24.77
that you just hate it almost
to ruin it by taking some.
00:42:24.81\00:42:30.18
The presentation was beautiful
and the quantity was quite...
00:42:30.21\00:42:33.88
Amen. Yeah. It was well done.
00:42:33.92\00:42:36.55
And you're eating two
big healthy meals a day.
00:42:36.58\00:42:41.56
And, Travis, I
guess for the most part,
00:42:41.59\00:42:43.32
most people can
live on two, you know.
00:42:43.36\00:42:45.73
Right.
00:42:45.76\00:42:48.46
You know, it's the old saying,
00:42:48.50\00:42:50.57
"Eat breakfast like a king,
00:42:50.60\00:42:51.93
eat lunch like a king,
eat dinner like a pauper."
00:42:51.97\00:42:54.87
You know, so at Eden Valley
we serve nice big breakfast...
00:42:54.90\00:42:59.84
You do.
00:42:59.87\00:43:01.21
Lots of options.
00:43:01.24\00:43:02.71
We've got a nice
selection at lunch time,
00:43:02.74\00:43:04.98
and then in the evening time
00:43:05.01\00:43:06.55
we serve a extremely
healthy vegetable stock.
00:43:06.58\00:43:11.25
Broth from fresh that
we make fresh everyday,
00:43:11.29\00:43:14.72
out of fresh vegetables,
00:43:14.76\00:43:16.09
many of which are
grown in on our property.
00:43:16.12\00:43:18.33
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:18.36\00:43:19.69
We have a large
organic farm there,
00:43:19.73\00:43:21.06
so a lot of the
produce in the growing season
00:43:21.10\00:43:22.70
comes directly from
our fields to your plate.
00:43:22.73\00:43:26.70
That's great,
that's great. Dr. Keith?
00:43:26.74\00:43:28.94
Yeah, I'd like to add,
00:43:28.97\00:43:30.31
we had just someone
come from Alaska this month,
00:43:30.34\00:43:33.88
a dear lady, and after
like, after a week she said,
00:43:33.91\00:43:39.08
"I have never been
able to lose five pounds
00:43:39.11\00:43:42.28
and now seven pounds in
one week, and felt so good."
00:43:42.32\00:43:47.99
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you eat.
00:43:48.02\00:43:50.13
You know, we've
got some pictures.
00:43:50.16\00:43:51.49
Let's go to those and kind
of run through and, gentlemen,
00:43:51.53\00:43:53.70
walk me through what
we're looking at here.
00:43:53.73\00:43:55.63
This is...
00:43:55.66\00:43:57.00
This is just a picture,
00:43:57.03\00:43:58.37
this is actually
looking across one of our,
00:43:58.40\00:44:00.07
one of our alfalfa fields.
00:44:00.10\00:44:02.70
We have organic
alfalfa fields that we,
00:44:02.74\00:44:05.44
that we grow hay in.
00:44:05.47\00:44:06.88
So this is one of the pictures
00:44:06.91\00:44:08.61
looking at across
one of the properties.
00:44:08.64\00:44:10.38
We have 550 acres there.
00:44:10.41\00:44:13.31
And this is looking back so
00:44:13.35\00:44:16.05
the nice thing
about Eden Valley is it,
00:44:16.08\00:44:17.95
it is a valley.
00:44:17.99\00:44:19.32
We are surrounded by mountains.
00:44:19.35\00:44:20.69
In this view we're
looking back to the east.
00:44:20.72\00:44:23.66
And you have the beautiful
00:44:23.69\00:44:25.03
flat top red
cliffs on that side.
00:44:25.06\00:44:29.70
And then on the
west, and that's another.
00:44:29.73\00:44:32.60
Another view from a
similar some location,
00:44:32.63\00:44:34.50
look back towards the
red cliffs are big pond.
00:44:34.54\00:44:39.04
It's beautiful
country. It's rural and rustic.
00:44:39.07\00:44:42.64
It's very, very nice.
00:44:42.68\00:44:44.35
This is the top
of the red cliffs,
00:44:44.38\00:44:45.98
and this is, there
are some trails you got,
00:44:46.01\00:44:47.65
there you can
see a couple people
00:44:47.68\00:44:49.02
that have hiked up there.
00:44:49.05\00:44:50.39
I'm not sure who
it is in that picture.
00:44:50.42\00:44:53.96
My wife I think is the
one that took this one.
00:44:53.99\00:44:56.59
There's trails that go up there,
00:44:56.62\00:44:57.96
so our guests
have the opportunity
00:44:57.99\00:44:59.33
to hike up to
some of these places,
00:44:59.36\00:45:01.10
and the views are just
absolutely spectacular.
00:45:01.13\00:45:04.07
It's a nice walk,
not too difficult.
00:45:04.10\00:45:06.23
It's good walk,
good healthy walk, yeah.
00:45:06.27\00:45:08.67
Travis, your wife is on staff?
00:45:08.70\00:45:10.81
Well, she is on staff
00:45:10.84\00:45:12.17
and we've got two
little girls at home,
00:45:12.21\00:45:13.78
so this is actually a picture
of my oldest daughter Sophia
00:45:13.81\00:45:16.88
sitting by the pond there.
00:45:16.91\00:45:19.91
She is a physical therapist
00:45:19.95\00:45:21.28
so she will help out once
a while doing consultations
00:45:21.32\00:45:24.65
and working with guests
that need some extra help.
00:45:24.69\00:45:28.02
And other than that she,
she works harder than anybody,
00:45:28.06\00:45:30.53
she's at home
with those two girls.
00:45:30.56\00:45:31.99
Oh, yes.
00:45:32.03\00:45:33.36
One of the neat things about
our campus is the location.
00:45:33.40\00:45:36.60
That's a picture
of the red cliffs,
00:45:36.63\00:45:38.33
and then a large herd of elk.
00:45:38.37\00:45:40.87
In the fall,
00:45:40.90\00:45:42.24
we'll have as many as five
to six hundred elk at a time
00:45:42.27\00:45:45.24
right there clustered together,
00:45:45.27\00:45:46.64
so lots of wildlife in the area
00:45:46.68\00:45:49.64
that they will be
seen right there, so.
00:45:49.68\00:45:53.78
And that is?
00:45:53.82\00:45:55.15
This is a...
00:45:55.18\00:45:56.52
This is a picture
again of some Canadian.
00:45:56.55\00:45:59.05
My dad would correct me,
00:45:59.09\00:46:00.42
they're not Canadian
geese or Canada geese.
00:46:00.46\00:46:03.83
So I say, well, how do
you know they're not Canadian?
00:46:03.86\00:46:07.43
Yeah, picture of our church.
00:46:07.46\00:46:09.80
Winter time, people are afraid
of Colorado in the winter time
00:46:09.83\00:46:12.63
but there is snow.
00:46:12.67\00:46:14.34
But it is
absolutely a beautiful place.
00:46:14.37\00:46:16.37
This is some other pictures
of our campus from this past
00:46:16.40\00:46:19.24
winter and...
00:46:19.27\00:46:21.34
Very beautiful. This is...
00:46:21.38\00:46:23.28
This is our
number one greenhouse.
00:46:23.31\00:46:26.82
This is taken this
spring right at the...
00:46:26.85\00:46:29.58
They had planted stuff
over winter and in early,
00:46:29.62\00:46:32.25
early spring, maybe late winter,
00:46:32.29\00:46:34.36
stuff started coming up,
00:46:34.39\00:46:35.72
so this is a
greenhouse full of kale.
00:46:35.76\00:46:40.70
I think two or three,
may be four different kales,
00:46:40.73\00:46:44.07
different
lettuces, organic greens,
00:46:44.10\00:46:46.84
that we have been serving now
00:46:46.87\00:46:49.10
for a couple of
months now in our kitchen.
00:46:49.14\00:46:52.87
This is some, some pictures of,
00:46:52.91\00:46:55.14
this is a typical
breakfast layout at Eden Valley,
00:46:55.18\00:46:59.28
lots of variety
fresh, fresh fruits.
00:46:59.31\00:47:03.69
There's gonna be some,
some vegetables in there,
00:47:03.72\00:47:07.36
some cooked options, so lots of,
00:47:07.39\00:47:10.93
lots of variety to
fit everybody's taste.
00:47:10.96\00:47:15.36
And Dr. Keith and Travis, both,
00:47:15.40\00:47:16.73
you lean them towards
increasing the raw intake,
00:47:16.77\00:47:19.40
don't you as far
as food is concerned?
00:47:19.43\00:47:21.20
Yes, for cancer we
encourage about 80 percent raw
00:47:21.24\00:47:26.11
and 20 percent cooked.
00:47:26.14\00:47:28.64
There's Antonio which is
actually Travis' mother-in-law.
00:47:28.68\00:47:32.31
She's on the left and
Rebecca on the right there
00:47:32.35\00:47:36.08
with some of the
organic lettuce there from our,
00:47:36.12\00:47:39.15
from our farm.
00:47:39.19\00:47:41.06
So, yeah, we have a big
00:47:41.09\00:47:42.62
80 percent of the table
is basically a salad bar.
00:47:42.66\00:47:46.13
And then we have the
cooked, some cooked food.
00:47:46.16\00:47:49.93
You know, some quinoa
beans or you know, nice,
00:47:49.96\00:47:53.64
nice taste in food there.
00:47:53.67\00:47:56.10
And as David and Gary
are nodding their head.
00:47:56.14\00:47:59.87
Yes, so, I love this beautiful
spring picture of spring
00:47:59.91\00:48:04.68
on Eden Valley.
00:48:04.71\00:48:07.12
And I'll mention that we
are just 22 miles from the,
00:48:07.15\00:48:11.02
Rocky Mountain National Park.
00:48:11.05\00:48:13.49
And of course, you can Google,
00:48:13.52\00:48:16.66
those are the pictures of
Rocky Mountain National Parks
00:48:16.69\00:48:18.93
and we take everyone, we take,
00:48:18.96\00:48:23.00
we take everyone there one day
00:48:23.03\00:48:25.73
during their
session to the park.
00:48:25.77\00:48:28.47
And let them experience a
beautiful part of Colorado.
00:48:28.50\00:48:33.04
That's a lifestyle center
there on the right, is it not?
00:48:33.07\00:48:35.81
Yeah, that's correct.
00:48:35.84\00:48:37.18
That's the main
lifestyle center,
00:48:37.21\00:48:38.55
so there is some guest
housing there, treatments and...
00:48:38.58\00:48:42.55
Yeah, that's kind of, well,
00:48:42.58\00:48:43.92
the central point
of our program there.
00:48:43.95\00:48:46.15
Yeah.
00:48:46.19\00:48:47.52
Really, really, wonderful
and it's a beautiful spot.
00:48:47.56\00:48:49.46
We went there.
00:48:49.49\00:48:51.29
My wife and I,
Irma and I went there.
00:48:51.33\00:48:53.09
We landed on in January on
Sunday with our jackets off.
00:48:53.13\00:48:59.23
It was January.
00:48:59.27\00:49:00.60
And it was, well, I
don't know, sometimes,
00:49:00.64\00:49:02.40
but we had our
coats over our shoulder.
00:49:02.44\00:49:05.24
By Tuesday, we were under
may be four inches of snow.
00:49:05.27\00:49:10.21
And by Sabbath, we're
back with our jackets off.
00:49:10.25\00:49:15.82
That's northern
Colorado weather.
00:49:15.85\00:49:17.19
Yeah.
00:49:17.22\00:49:18.55
If you don't like the weather,
just wait a couple of hours.
00:49:18.59\00:49:20.12
Yeah. And it will
change drastically.
00:49:20.16\00:49:22.16
You know, from snow storm,
00:49:22.19\00:49:23.96
to almost
mid-summer back to mid-winter.
00:49:23.99\00:49:27.60
David and Gary,
00:49:27.63\00:49:28.96
tell me what
stands out in your mind
00:49:29.00\00:49:31.03
most in the little
time we have, we have left.
00:49:31.07\00:49:33.17
But as you think
back over your treatments,
00:49:33.20\00:49:35.90
and the treatments
there and the people there.
00:49:35.94\00:49:37.41
What kind of...
00:49:37.44\00:49:38.77
If you were to say Eden
Valley, finish this sentence,
00:49:38.81\00:49:41.44
what stands out in
your mind the most?
00:49:41.48\00:49:43.45
Eden Valley...
00:49:46.21\00:49:47.55
I'm sorry.
00:49:47.58\00:49:49.42
Is a Christ
centered healing process.
00:49:49.45\00:49:55.42
I can't praise God enough for
the way He scored to my life.
00:49:55.46\00:50:01.93
Praise the Lord.
00:50:01.96\00:50:03.47
Yeah, God had
given you a new lease.
00:50:03.50\00:50:05.83
Yes. Definitely.
Yeah. Praise the Lord.
00:50:05.87\00:50:08.07
Amen.
00:50:08.10\00:50:10.34
Gary?
00:50:10.37\00:50:11.84
The staff.
00:50:11.87\00:50:13.64
Great, great staff.
00:50:13.68\00:50:16.08
And then you meet
the people that are there
00:50:16.11\00:50:18.81
and just the whole
thing with the people
00:50:18.85\00:50:21.78
that are there is very
encouraging and uplifting.
00:50:21.82\00:50:25.09
And then I would say the
food and was just very well.
00:50:25.12\00:50:30.99
Learning the new process that
they've gone through with foods
00:50:31.03\00:50:35.96
for that specific, you know,
00:50:36.00\00:50:37.83
cancer or whatever
it is diabetes etcetera.
00:50:37.87\00:50:40.80
You both said
precisely what I wanted to say.
00:50:40.84\00:50:43.00
One, the staff and the people.
00:50:43.04\00:50:47.61
The staff has changed
since the days I was there,
00:50:47.64\00:50:51.38
but the mindset has not changed.
00:50:51.41\00:50:55.15
And what you're trying to
do certainly has not changed.
00:50:55.18\00:50:58.19
And the Christ centered
approach has not changed,
00:50:58.22\00:51:01.19
that's carried on.
00:51:01.22\00:51:02.76
And the second thing that
scares most people is the food.
00:51:02.79\00:51:07.00
You know, it's like, am I
gonna be eating cardboard.
00:51:07.03\00:51:09.20
You know, or what am
I going to be eating.
00:51:09.23\00:51:11.43
It's not just twigs and berries.
00:51:11.47\00:51:12.80
Not there.
00:51:12.83\00:51:15.20
Not at all.
00:51:15.24\00:51:16.57
You know, I got to
bring out my Eden Valley rock.
00:51:16.60\00:51:18.87
This is something that Beverley
Christian painted for me
00:51:18.91\00:51:20.84
when we were there.
00:51:20.88\00:51:22.21
And this is a
have a little fella.
00:51:22.24\00:51:23.61
I don't know if I can
get them to lock in on this.
00:51:23.65\00:51:27.45
And I guess, I
would turn it that way.
00:51:27.48\00:51:29.55
That's Eden Valley
00:51:29.58\00:51:31.29
and the painting
was done by Beverly
00:51:31.32\00:51:33.86
and we had this for and this is,
00:51:33.89\00:51:35.72
this is kind of a paper,
00:51:35.76\00:51:37.09
was not a paper
weight, this is a doorstop.
00:51:37.13\00:51:38.86
This is a heavy
piece of rock from the area
00:51:38.89\00:51:43.06
and we have it there,
00:51:43.10\00:51:44.90
but that's what
Eden Valley looks like.
00:51:44.93\00:51:46.53
And up here on the
top, you can walk up there,
00:51:46.57\00:51:49.07
it's very, very nice,
00:51:49.10\00:51:50.44
and the view down
into the valley is really,
00:51:50.47\00:51:52.44
really incredible.
00:51:52.47\00:51:53.81
So it is a great
place to be and...
00:51:53.84\00:51:57.11
We recommend it highly.
00:51:57.15\00:51:58.88
We're going to go
now to our address roll.
00:51:58.91\00:52:02.05
Should you want to make
contact with Eden Valley,
00:52:02.08\00:52:04.12
should you want to be
part of this experience.
00:52:04.15\00:52:05.62
Should you want to support
their work or find out about
00:52:05.65\00:52:08.09
the services that
they may have for you.
00:52:08.12\00:52:10.16
Here's the
information that you will need,
00:52:10.19\00:52:11.66
followed by our newsbreak.
00:52:11.69\00:52:13.03
Then we'll come back
and put a little bow on this
00:52:13.06\00:52:14.43
before we say bye-bye.
00:52:14.46\00:52:17.67
The hustle and
bustle of our daily lives
00:52:17.70\00:52:19.80
and bad habits can cause
much stress upon our bodies.
00:52:19.83\00:52:23.04
Eden Valley is ready to
help you improve your life.
00:52:23.07\00:52:26.14
If you'd like to contact them,
00:52:26.17\00:52:27.51
then write to Eden
Valley Institute 9325,
00:52:27.54\00:52:31.15
World Mission Drive,
Loveland, Colorado 80538.
00:52:31.18\00:52:35.75
That's Eden
Valley Institute 9325,
00:52:35.78\00:52:38.79
World Mission Drive,
Loveland, Colorado 80538.
00:52:38.82\00:52:43.39
You can call 970- 669-7730.
00:52:43.43\00:52:47.60
That's 970- 669-7730.
00:52:47.63\00:52:51.60
You can also visit their
website at eden-valley.org.
00:52:51.63\00:52:55.64
That's eden-valley.org.
00:52:55.67\00:52:59.11