I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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My name is John Lomacang,
I'm with my lovely wife.
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Angela.
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And we're both
glad to be here today.
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And we've tried
our best to match,
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if it has worked
then give us a thumbs up,
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if not don't write us a letter,
we really tried our best.
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But we have a
program for you today,
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I could
affectionately call the program,
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I hope this what made in China.
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You'll find out what
that means in just a moment
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but you don't want to
turn away from the program.
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We have two wonderful guests
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that you will meet
in just a few minutes
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and, Honey,
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it's amazing that
programs like this remind us
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that the work is going
on all around the world.
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And when the Bible says,
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"From one blood
has come all nations,"
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you'll find out
how true that is today.
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On behalf of 3ABN,
thank you for your prayers
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and also your financial
support of this network
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that continues going and growing
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as we prepare for the coming
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of our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ.
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And we're gonna dive in a moment
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and just meet our guests
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but to make the
best use of our time,
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we have some music to
lead into our program today.
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Good friend of
ours Rosemary Malkiewycz
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is going to be singing a song
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entitled "Jesus In Your Heart."
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If I could have one wish
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I know just
what I'd like to find
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If I could have one dream
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Come true before my eyes
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More than a pot of gold
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More than a pathway to the stars
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More than anything I know
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I want Jesus in your heart
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If I could paint
a picture in my mind
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Of what I'd like to see
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If I could take you once
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Inside my deepest dream
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More than a treasures glow
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More than a comet traveling far
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More than anything I know
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I want Jesus in your heart
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He's more than
all the world can give
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When He truly comes
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To live in your heart
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Why do you try
to search for more
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When He's what
you're looking for
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In your heart
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So if I could have one wish
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I know just
what I'd like to find
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And if I could have one dream
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Come true before my eyes
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More than a pot of gold
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More than a pathway to the stars
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More than anything I know
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I want Jesus
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I pray you'll find Jesus
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I want Jesus in your heart
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Thank you so much
for that song, Rosemary,
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"Jesus in your heart"
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and without Jesus in our hearts,
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the work that He
has called us to do
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would be very impossible.
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Virtually impossible because,
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really as Christ works in us
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both to will and to
do of His good pleasure.
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Well, let's meet
our guest at this time
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and they are no
strangers to our 3ABN family.
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First of all I have to say,
Elder Robert Folkenberg, Jr.
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That's right.
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And you said affectionately
wanting to be known as Bob.
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Well, that's what they call me.
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If I meet people
who I knew as a kid
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they call me Bobby.
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Well, good to
have you here again.
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It's good to be here.
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You are no
stranger to our family
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but there is someone
watching this program today
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who is saying,
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"Who's Bob?" So
tell us who you are?
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Where you're from and
what you do right now?
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Then we'll meet that
lovely lady to your right.
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Well, yes. My name is Bob,
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and the Lord has
called us both recently
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to serve in the Chinese Union,
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to serve as
president of the Chinese Union
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overseeing the kingdom growth
in that part of the world.
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Before that we served
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in different parts
of the United States,
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worked with ShareHim.
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My dad and I were
here multiple times
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talking about that
evangelistic lay initiative
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and also in Upper
Colombia as president.
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But, now we're back in
China, we've served there--
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now we're working on our
13th year working in China,
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and we love the
Chinese people, we love China
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and I have a feeling,
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in fact, I know
there's going to be
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of large China town in heaven.
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Wow. Wow.
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Wonderful, good
to have you here.
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And what about
Audrey, your beautiful wife.
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Tell us about yourself.
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Well, I'm married
to Bob, obviously.
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How many years now?
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Well, 27. Going on 28.
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Wow! Congratulations.
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And it's been an adventure.
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Like Bob mentioned we've been
back in China for three years
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and it's an honor to
serve the Chinese people.
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Wow, but you are--
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just give us a little
bit of your background
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because you come from, in fact,
I use the word thoroughbred.
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Your dad was North America
General Conference President
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and a stately man.
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For those of you
watching the program,
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I'm sitting down
that's actually to my benefit
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because, how tall
are you about 6.9?
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6'6". 6'6".
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6'6"? Yes.
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Oh, I must be shrinking, right,
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if I'm closer to you then.
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But a stately
gentleman, your dad was also
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very much involved in
the work around the world.
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A heart for evangelism
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and I think the work
that you both are involved
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now as evangelism
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but in a unique
part of the world, China.
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You know, if I thought
about sending someone to China,
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I would probably
choose a Chinese.
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But tell us your
connection with China?
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Well, I think the
Lord has a sense of humor.
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Audrey and I have often said,
"You know why are we there?"
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And He has His reasons.
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But I certainly do not fit in.
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I do not look Chinese
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and I tower above
most of my Chinese friends.
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But, you know, He
selects who He wants to do,
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what He wants done.
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And Audrey and I
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many years ago said to the Lord,
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"We are willing to go
anywhere You want to send us."
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And I remember, Audrey,
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we really felt a
pull to the Middle East,
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but we got a phone call
from the General Conference
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saying, "Well,
what about China."
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And we said,
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"Well, why not if
God is calling us there."
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I grew up speaking Spanish.
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And so, I thought
maybe the Lord would use us
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in that kind of language group.
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But I can just tell
you right now for certain
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there is no connection between
Mandarin Chinese and Spanish.
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No. Wow.
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So, that we've
been serving over there
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like I said for 13 years.
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And, yes, there are Chinese
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but sometimes the Lord
calls us or call people
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to go and do certain things
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and, and that's
what we're doing.
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Now, you're from a small family,
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large family of your parents?
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Right. How many siblings?
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Well, my sister and I.
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My sister lives in Florida
and it's just the two of us
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and we are glad to
have three kids ourselves
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who grew up in China
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and one of them
was made in China.
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Maybe that's our tour.
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That's right. No comment?
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And you have to buy an
extra Christmas gift now.
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That's right, exactly.
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Not that this
program is during Christmas.
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And your sons
are in ministry also?
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Yes.
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Our oldest boy is pastoring
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in British
Columbia and in Kelowna
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and our second boy is graduating
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from theology program,
gonna be married two days later
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and gonna start working
in the Oregon Conference.
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So we're very blessed,
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they've heard the
call of the Lord too
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and we always tell them,
"Just go where the Lord leads."
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Now, having to,
having to move sorry, Hon,
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having to move
from the Upper Northwest
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to go overseas,
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did you
disconnect how completely
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did you disconnect from America?
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Well, we have never disconnected
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because our children
are still in North America.
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Real Estate. Yes, yes.
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Well, we, we wanted the
freedom to come back and forth
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and be a part of our kids' lives
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as often as a possible.
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So we didn't really
hang on to anything.
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We're just over
there and enjoying serving
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and footloose some
fancy-free for the most part
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but our daughter is a
freshman in college as well.
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So we come back and
spend time with her as we can.
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But we have, we have no
real estate so to speak of,
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our home is in heaven
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and we're
perfectly happy with that.
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And we keep
telling our kids that,
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"Hey, you know, we get
to live with one of them
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later on may be."
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They used to
think that was funny
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now, they're starting
to get little worried.
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Like she say, "We have
no real estate like us."
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That's right.
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We say, "We're living in tents."
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So one is past
tent, one is present tent.
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Oh, I like that.
That's a good one, I like it.
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But fitting in
this, in this culture now
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because for us
when we think of--
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if we got calls to go to China,
we would instantly be nervous,
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because we can't communicate,
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but I understand you had a
prior connection with China,
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talk about that?
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Well, when we first went
over, we made a commitment
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as much as possible
to learn the language.
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And of course, at that time
my wife was primarily serving
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and ministering to our
family, we have three kids.
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So she was not as involved in
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out in the community
or in the Chinese work.
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So her Chinese
didn't have the opportunity
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to blossom as much,
now it's really blossoming.
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But, yeah, we both
speak Mandarin Chinese.
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You know, when you're there,
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you're working
with Chinese people,
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when you go into China,
you're preaching in Chinese,
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you're talking in
Chinese, you're meeting people,
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government officials
whatever it is in Chinese.
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And, you know, I
would, I would say that
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wherever God
calls you, don't be,
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do not be
intimidated by these barriers.
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In other words, people
say, "Well, I can't go do this
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because, hey, you
know, we just bought a house
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or we just have this.
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What do we do with
this? What we do with that?"
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Listen, you know,
this world is not our home.
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And "Oh, I don't speak Chinese."
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Well, you know,
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He will give you the
ability to communicate.
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And I have, had it
happened multiple times
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and I finish
preaching and I say,
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"Audrey, that really was not me
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because my Chinese
level is not that high."
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But I was able to communicate
at a much higher level.
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That's I believe
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the Holy Spirit
working through us.
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Why don't you give
us a Chinese greeting?
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That means basically, "Hello."
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And but I could
say to our viewers.
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Wow!
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What did you say? Break it down.
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Basically I was saying,
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"Thank you for
watching this program.
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And I pray the Holy
Spirit will touch your heart
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and that you will
always pray for China."
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Wow! Wow! That's amazing.
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You did that well.
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Well, actually you don't,
I might have been ordering,
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you know, stir
fry, you all don't know.
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I don't even know
what you just said.
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No, I--
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He did it, he did it right.
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She could vouch for me.
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Now, before we go
into our video roll,
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we want to kind of
get into some of the,
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some of the population
and some of the statistics
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because, we know that,
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we talk about
the work in America,
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the work in China.
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Just talk about that
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what actually is happening there
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as far as
population and workers and--
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Well, China of course
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has one to every
six people in the world
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living in its country
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and the population
is 1.4 plus billion.
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Billion. And so
it's a huge place.
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In fact, one way
that I try to put it
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in perspective
for people is that,
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there is one city
called Chongqing, China.
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And in that one city,
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there are more
people living in that city
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than any state
in the United States
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except for the
state of California.
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So California is the only
state that has a population
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greater than that one city.
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So it's a huge place.
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In fact, as a
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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we've identified
China is that region
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with the most
un-reach people for Jesus.
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There are more
people in that one country
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than any country combined
of that don't know Jesus.
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Now, is there a
limit on children?
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There used to be but
they have identified that
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having only one child
really, really causes problems
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with the culture, the dynamics.
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You know, everybody only,
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there are no
cousins, no aunts or uncles.
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So the, the government
has loosened up on that
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and now they can
have more than one child.
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They can have.
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And also the whole retirement,
they're aging, all of a sudden
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you have one child
taking care of two parents
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and sometimes four
depending on the situation.
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Right, in the Chinese culture
its, it's a beautiful thing
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that the children
take care of the parents
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and the grandparents.
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So suddenly, like Bob said,
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you have one child
who married one child,
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and they have
parents and grandparents
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on both sides to take care of.
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And it's caused a lot of,
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a lot of
difficulties in the culture.
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And in fact,
even with the labor,
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there aren't as many people
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to do the labor
that's needed to be done.
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But there are
nursing homes, are they?
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That is not the way although.
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It's starting--
It's starting to happen.
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Yeah. The west is leaking in.
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Well, and the money, money,
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money is taking over
so what's happening is
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what used to be a
very family focus society,
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now, you're
finding more and more,
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everybody in the
family has to work.
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And sadly most of the
people who live in rural China
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are leaving their
kids with the grandparents
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and traveling to the big
cities in order to find work.
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And so you have a lot
of abandoned kids in China.
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I mean, it's,
it's a beautiful thing
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to have grandparents
obviously taking care of kids
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but it's a real problem in China
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where you will have children.
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Actually, it's called
"left behind children"
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where the parents
go into the cities
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and they might
not even come home
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except for once a year if that
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so these little
children are growing up
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without their parents
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and often the
grandparents can't provide
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the love and the
nurturing that's needed.
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And it's a, it's a big challenge
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right now in China.
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And, in fact, we have
been able to get involved
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in attending to
some of these kids
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that have been left behind.
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One of our, our
goals right now in China
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is to as much as possible
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encourage the
local Chinese churches
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to look around
them in the communities
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in these cities
and plant new churches.
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Because China is
becoming more and more secular,
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materialistic,
mammon, money is taking over.
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So, it's becoming
more and more difficult
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to reach out with the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
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So we're doing church
planting and as Audrey mentioned
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one of the teams
that we've sent out
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that has been sent
out to do church planting
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identified this
need in the community.
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Here all these young kids
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left at home
sometimes by themselves.
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So this pioneer
team, church planting team
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went and started working
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and bringing these kids together
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and doing afternoon
activities with them,
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taking care of
them, cooking with them.
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Helping them with their laundry,
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with their homework.
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And then on Sabbath
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bringing them
together for Bible stories
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and then what
happens is the parent starts
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they will thank you for
taking care of our kids.
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And they're using that
as an evangelistic tool
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to start a new
church in this community.
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So with the challenges
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and there's some positive sides.
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You know, we think of China
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we say, well, as
one person once said,
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"If you take away all
the things in your house
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that are made in China,
what would you have left?
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Exactly.
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But even though
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it's a communist
form of government,
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there are a lot
of positive things
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that are happening in China.
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Talk about some of those things?
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Well, the fact is that
the government of China
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has raised last
statistic I saw was
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over 300 million
people out of poverty
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in the last 30 or so years.
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Tremendous development
and hats off to that.
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In China there is, in
Chinese there is a saying,
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we call it crisis in Chinese
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it's two
characters Weiji and it's--
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the word crisis
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comes from two
different characters together
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and the one character is danger
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and the other
character is opportunity.
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And so, crisis is a danger
but it's also an opportunity.
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So while at the
same time you have these,
00:19:33.44\00:19:36.37
these left behind children
that Audrey was talking about,
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we have an opportunity
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to meet those
needs like Jesus did.
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Meet the needs,
mingle with them,
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care for them until they say,
"Well, why are you doing this?"
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And then point them to Jesus.
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So, though the society
is changing drastically,
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it also provides
opportunity for us
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to meet those needs.
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Wow.
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I wanted to add to
that the literacy rate
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is very high in
China and that is something
00:20:00.60\00:20:02.93
that we can give
credit to the government
00:20:02.96\00:20:05.03
for doing its
part to make sure that
00:20:05.07\00:20:07.54
everybody gets
a chance to learn.
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So that that's a
very positive thing
00:20:09.64\00:20:11.37
and the
infrastructure is fantastic.
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Amazing, yeah.
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Compared to when we first
moved to China 20 years ago,
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it's a different world
00:20:18.71\00:20:20.05
because we lived in China first,
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the first time
around for nine years.
00:20:22.15\00:20:24.22
And so, it's been
very interesting to compare
00:20:24.25\00:20:26.65
that China with today's China.
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Now, people think
we hear names in Asia
00:20:29.49\00:20:31.43
like China, Hong Kong,
Taiwan, demographically
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or I mean, I should say,
00:20:35.96\00:20:37.37
not demographically
but location wise,
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how are they-- how
are they different?
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Yeah, well, they're all
part of the Greater China,
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we worked, okay.
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Taiwan is
considered as part of China.
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Of course, from 1949,
00:20:49.84\00:20:51.28
there's been some
political differences
00:20:51.31\00:20:53.21
but everybody acknowledges
it they're all part of China.
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Hong Kong is part of China
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since 1997 went
back from the British.
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And that's the Greater China.
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But when you
look at the population
00:21:01.69\00:21:03.43
that's where that
word demographic comes in.
00:21:03.46\00:21:06.19
You know, that one
Taiwan has 23 million people.
00:21:06.23\00:21:09.40
Okay, so it doesn't even
have as much as that one city.
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Hong Kong has
seven million people
00:21:12.83\00:21:14.87
but the Greater China,
00:21:14.90\00:21:16.40
I'm talking about
the country of China
00:21:16.44\00:21:17.77
has 1.4 billion people.
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Yeah, Taiwan is an island
off the east coast of China.
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Okay.
00:21:24.31\00:21:25.65
And then Hong
Kong is a little area
00:21:25.68\00:21:27.48
just south east of China.
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Have you've been
to Hong Kong before?
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It's a little peninsula,
00:21:31.75\00:21:33.09
an island right off
the southern part of China,
00:21:33.12\00:21:37.03
that's were our union
offices are based and,
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and we live there but
our offices are just maybe,
00:21:40.13\00:21:44.03
you know, eight or nine miles
00:21:44.07\00:21:45.50
from the border
with the mainland China.
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How many employees?
00:21:47.74\00:21:49.30
In our office we have about 40.
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Really, that many? Forty.
00:21:51.94\00:21:53.27
We have a very active media,
00:21:53.31\00:21:55.21
we have the Chinese
Hope TV going there,
00:21:55.24\00:21:58.81
we have 3ABN I mean,
Adventist World Radio.
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Okay.
00:22:04.59\00:22:05.92
We're developing programs
for Adventist World Radio
00:22:05.95\00:22:08.06
that comes out of Guam.
00:22:08.09\00:22:09.99
And then, is also the
programs are put on podcast.
00:22:10.03\00:22:13.66
We have 11
million downloads a day.
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A day. A day.
00:22:16.97\00:22:18.30
What?
00:22:18.33\00:22:19.67
Yes, 11 million downloads a day
00:22:19.70\00:22:21.07
from our radio
programmings, yeah.
00:22:21.10\00:22:23.81
That's amazing.
You gave us a hint.
00:22:23.84\00:22:25.61
Maybe we should
have 3ABN Chinese.
00:22:25.64\00:22:28.14
Hey, listen.
00:22:28.18\00:22:29.51
Let's talk we need every vehicle
00:22:29.54\00:22:33.38
and method we can
to reach Chinese people
00:22:33.42\00:22:37.02
with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:22:37.05\00:22:38.62
So, let's make a date.
00:22:38.65\00:22:39.99
We've got to find a
way to have 3ABN Chinese.
00:22:40.02\00:22:43.39
And the reality
is we have no idea
00:22:43.43\00:22:46.19
who is watching and
listening to what in China.
00:22:46.23\00:22:49.36
And so, we just see these
as means of planting seeds.
00:22:49.40\00:22:52.07
That's right.
00:22:52.10\00:22:53.44
And who knows, I
mean internet evangelism.
00:22:53.47\00:22:56.10
radio, TV, all of these things.
00:22:56.14\00:22:58.37
I mean everybody in
China has a Smartphone,
00:22:58.41\00:23:01.98
and they're
downloading these apps.
00:23:02.01\00:23:03.75
So we are just
trying to put it out there
00:23:03.78\00:23:06.92
and let God make the difference.
00:23:06.95\00:23:08.35
Just to give you an example,
00:23:08.38\00:23:09.72
one of the things
the Union has done
00:23:09.75\00:23:11.15
in the last years is to--
00:23:11.19\00:23:13.22
over the last 10 years
they've been translating
00:23:13.25\00:23:15.96
the 10 volume Bible
commentary series into Chinese.
00:23:15.99\00:23:19.66
I mean, it's a
pretty big project.
00:23:19.69\00:23:21.36
And we're thankful for
some of our retired pastors
00:23:21.40\00:23:23.87
that have dedicated themselves.
00:23:23.90\00:23:25.53
But instead of taking
00:23:25.57\00:23:26.90
that investment of time
and money and simply say,
00:23:26.94\00:23:29.70
well, we're
gonna print it, okay,
00:23:29.74\00:23:32.37
which would have
been very expensive,
00:23:32.41\00:23:34.21
we made the
decision to put it for free
00:23:34.24\00:23:37.08
and we made an app and
we put it on the internet.
00:23:37.11\00:23:40.12
A free download
app and people can use
00:23:40.15\00:23:43.89
all of the Bible commentary.
00:23:43.92\00:23:45.52
Within one year we had
51,000 downloads of that app
00:23:45.55\00:23:50.86
and are using that.
00:23:50.89\00:23:52.69
So, the numbers
are always exponential
00:23:52.73\00:23:56.13
when you, when you
get to China and...
00:23:56.16\00:23:58.47
Now, you have a video roll. Yes.
00:23:58.50\00:24:01.04
That's kind of give us
an overview of the work
00:24:01.07\00:24:03.30
and the things that
are happening in China,
00:24:03.34\00:24:04.67
lead us into that quickly?
00:24:04.71\00:24:06.04
Surely.
00:24:06.07\00:24:07.41
This video is
basically gonna take you
00:24:07.44\00:24:08.84
on a bit of a history of
how the work started in China
00:24:08.88\00:24:11.75
by a Layman
Abram La Rue in 1888.
00:24:11.78\00:24:15.78
It's gonna kind
of share with you
00:24:15.82\00:24:18.35
the work as it progressed
through the pre-communist time
00:24:18.39\00:24:22.59
and then what
happened after that
00:24:22.62\00:24:24.63
especially during
the cultural revolution.
00:24:24.66\00:24:26.59
And then, it's gonna talk about
what has happened since then.
00:24:26.63\00:24:29.30
And I think it's gonna give us,
00:24:29.33\00:24:30.77
you know, five, six
minutes a good overview
00:24:30.80\00:24:33.77
of where we are
and where we came from.
00:24:33.80\00:24:35.54
Okay, well let's
go to the videotape.
00:24:35.57\00:24:36.91
Okay.
00:24:36.94\00:24:38.27
When we say "To
grow God's Kingdom"
00:24:46.18\00:24:48.82
we mean to expand
the plan of salvation
00:24:48.85\00:24:51.89
among millions of Chinese
00:24:51.92\00:24:53.59
living in the
Great China region.
00:24:53.62\00:24:56.76
The Adventist
ministry in China began with
00:24:56.79\00:24:59.19
lay missionary Abram La
Rue 127 years ago in 1888.
00:24:59.23\00:25:05.83
The first official missionary,
00:25:05.87\00:25:07.67
J.N. Anderson was
sent to China in 1902.
00:25:07.70\00:25:12.14
In 1906, Guo Ziying became
00:25:12.17\00:25:14.81
the first ordained
Chinese Adventist minister.
00:25:14.84\00:25:17.91
Later on Pastor Hong Zijie,
00:25:17.95\00:25:20.52
a Baptist minister
joined the Adventist ministry.
00:25:20.55\00:25:24.65
For half a century
Adventist leaders and members
00:25:24.69\00:25:28.02
lived through
difficult historical periods,
00:25:28.06\00:25:30.76
withstanding
countless regime changes,
00:25:30.79\00:25:33.36
political unrest and
brutal military conflicts
00:25:33.40\00:25:36.77
including the Japanese
invasion and the civil war.
00:25:36.80\00:25:40.84
Despite the
unstable social environment,
00:25:40.87\00:25:43.61
by 1950 the China Division
00:25:43.64\00:25:46.14
along with its
seven union conferences,
00:25:46.17\00:25:48.84
were supervising 276
churches and 21,000 members.
00:25:48.88\00:25:54.85
It also operated many schools,
00:25:54.88\00:25:57.12
ranging from elementary
level to college level,
00:25:57.15\00:26:00.36
13 hospitals and Signs of
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the Times
Publishing Association.
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With the backdrop of
the ongoing Korean War,
00:26:05.43\00:26:08.36
the Adventist church went
through the Accusation Movement
00:26:08.40\00:26:11.67
during which
many ordinary citizens
00:26:11.70\00:26:13.90
were wrongfully
accused of being foreign spies.
00:26:13.94\00:26:17.34
In 1951, the
communist government
00:26:17.37\00:26:20.41
confiscated all
churches entities.
00:26:20.44\00:26:23.01
In 1958, China
entered a period called
00:26:23.04\00:26:26.51
"The Great Leap Forward."
00:26:26.55\00:26:28.38
Christian churches were annexed
00:26:28.42\00:26:30.12
in order to
eliminate denominations.
00:26:30.15\00:26:32.82
Starting in 1966,
the Cultural Revolution
00:26:32.85\00:26:36.32
which lasted ten years,
00:26:36.36\00:26:37.96
inflicted another
round of destruction
00:26:37.99\00:26:40.30
to all religions.
00:26:40.33\00:26:42.16
Bibles were torched in public,
00:26:42.20\00:26:44.27
churches were
converted to factories,
00:26:44.30\00:26:46.67
schools and daycare centers.
00:26:46.70\00:26:49.00
Many Christian ministers
and organizational staff
00:26:49.04\00:26:52.11
were sent to labor
camps for "re-education."
00:26:52.14\00:26:55.08
Some were thrown in jail.
00:26:55.11\00:26:57.28
It was the darkest chapter
00:26:57.31\00:26:59.01
in the Christian
history in China.
00:26:59.05\00:27:02.12
Even during the
most difficult times,
00:27:02.15\00:27:04.92
the Lord was with
His faithful followers.
00:27:04.95\00:27:07.96
Many Adventists
suffered for their faith.
00:27:07.99\00:27:10.43
But their perseverance
kept the Church alive.
00:27:10.46\00:27:14.30
When China entered a new era,
00:27:14.33\00:27:16.56
the Christian churches sprang
00:27:16.60\00:27:18.17
like bamboo-shoots
across the country.
00:27:18.20\00:27:21.34
Today, in 2015 the membership of
00:27:21.37\00:27:24.41
the Chinese Adventist
Church reached 410,000.
00:27:24.44\00:27:28.98
The number of
churches and meeting places
00:27:29.01\00:27:31.41
is between four
and five thousand.
00:27:31.45\00:27:33.98
More than three million
books of Spirit of Prophecy
00:27:34.02\00:27:37.25
have been
printed and distributed.
00:27:37.29\00:27:39.99
From 1958 to 1966,
00:27:40.02\00:27:43.36
The Adventist church have
gone through a great test.
00:27:43.39\00:27:46.56
In Shanghai,
00:27:46.59\00:27:47.93
where the China
Division office was located,
00:27:47.96\00:27:50.30
more than 20
ministers, elders and deacons,
00:27:50.33\00:27:53.13
ministry
directors and lay persons,
00:27:53.17\00:27:55.47
were sent to lay the
camps for "re-education."
00:27:55.50\00:27:58.61
None of them
betrayed their faith.
00:27:58.64\00:28:00.68
They went straight back
00:28:00.71\00:28:02.04
to the business of
growing God's kingdom
00:28:02.08\00:28:04.18
when they were released.
00:28:04.21\00:28:05.95
Years later,
00:28:05.98\00:28:07.32
they were exonerated
by the Chinese government.
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You may have
heard of some of them
00:28:09.95\00:28:11.75
such as David Lin,
00:28:11.79\00:28:14.62
Zheng Zhaorong, Yang Dawei,
00:28:14.66\00:28:21.40
Jiao Hongzhi, and Robert Wong.
00:28:21.43\00:28:27.87
There were many
dedicated Adventists
00:28:27.90\00:28:30.07
living in other places as well.
00:28:30.11\00:28:32.47
We remember those
who became martyrs
00:28:32.51\00:28:34.38
for the kingdom
including Sun Qinfu.
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Currently, there
are several cities
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and regions in China
00:28:41.52\00:28:43.02
which boast of having
more than 1,000 Adventists
00:28:43.05\00:28:46.25
worshiping on any given Sabbath.
00:28:46.29\00:28:49.19
The cities of Wuxi,
Wenzhou, Shenyang, Xi'an
00:28:49.22\00:28:54.70
and the regions
around Dagushan, Gongzhuling,
00:28:54.73\00:28:59.10
northern Guangdong Province
are prominent locations.
00:28:59.13\00:29:03.20
The churches at these
locations started small.
00:29:03.24\00:29:06.44
Their development testifies
to God's glory and power.
00:29:06.47\00:29:10.38
All the church
leaders led with good examples
00:29:10.41\00:29:13.01
of true
dedication and sacrifice.
00:29:13.05\00:29:15.88
The congregations responded
with faithful witnessing.
00:29:15.92\00:29:19.75
From a few to several thousand,
00:29:19.79\00:29:22.12
they steadily
grow God's kingdom.
00:29:22.16\00:29:25.86
"But that on the
good ground are they,
00:29:25.89\00:29:28.16
which in an
honest and good heart,
00:29:28.20\00:29:30.43
having heard the word,
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keep it, and bring
forth fruit with patience."
00:29:31.97\00:29:35.64
Jesus rightfully
describes how His Kingdom grows.
00:29:35.67\00:29:40.14
From the era of
East Asia Association
00:29:40.18\00:29:42.91
to today's
Chinese Union Mission,
00:29:42.94\00:29:45.31
every outreach
method, literature evangelism,
00:29:45.35\00:29:48.78
radio
broadcasting, disciple training,
00:29:48.82\00:29:51.92
internet and TV ministries,
correspondence Bible schools,
00:29:51.95\00:29:56.93
Griggs University
Asia, exchanges and visits,
00:29:56.96\00:30:00.50
have been used to sow the
seeds and to nurture the hearts.
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With our own eyes we see that
00:30:04.90\00:30:06.74
the seeds have grown
and born fruit in China!
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This is a very interesting video
00:30:24.39\00:30:25.72
that we just saw about China,
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the history, the
past, the present
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and also a reflection on
the direction of the future.
00:30:29.26\00:30:32.36
Kind of recap in
a nutshell because,
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you know, you see that church,
00:30:34.00\00:30:36.33
one of the things
that we talked about
00:30:36.36\00:30:37.70
as we were watching,
this is how the church grew
00:30:37.73\00:30:40.80
when it went in a
time of difficulty.
00:30:40.84\00:30:44.87
We use a phrase
underground so to speak.
00:30:44.91\00:30:47.01
The way, the way I would recap
00:30:47.04\00:30:48.54
this video is
that it took one man
00:30:48.58\00:30:51.01
whose name was Abram La
Rue who by faith went to China.
00:30:51.05\00:30:55.02
In fact, he had applied
to the General Conference
00:30:55.05\00:30:58.45
of Seventh-day Adventist
to be a missionary to China
00:30:58.49\00:31:01.29
and they said,
"Sorry you're too old."
00:31:01.32\00:31:04.19
But long story
short, he ended up in China
00:31:04.23\00:31:07.30
and he actually
died in Hong Kong
00:31:07.33\00:31:10.47
and he's buried right
near to where we live.
00:31:10.50\00:31:14.24
But he started to
work and things grew
00:31:14.27\00:31:18.17
and through difficult times,
the church grew all the more.
00:31:18.21\00:31:22.21
In fact, our church had to
go underground for many years
00:31:22.24\00:31:25.95
and then in the '70s
and in the early '80s
00:31:25.98\00:31:29.32
the church
started to blossom again
00:31:29.35\00:31:31.05
and we went from a membership
of 20,000 as the video stated
00:31:31.09\00:31:35.02
when it went
underground to over 200,000
00:31:35.06\00:31:37.93
and now a membership
of over 400,000 in China.
00:31:37.96\00:31:41.63
So, I think this video
says to me that God has a plan.
00:31:41.66\00:31:45.27
He's in charge,
00:31:45.30\00:31:46.63
and no matter what happens,
He will grow his church.
00:31:46.67\00:31:49.10
Amen. That's right.
00:31:49.14\00:31:50.47
Amen.
00:31:50.51\00:31:51.84
There's an article,
article you showed me,
00:31:51.87\00:31:53.21
I want you to
talk about this briefly
00:31:53.24\00:31:54.58
when we were sitting
down eating some Indian food.
00:31:54.61\00:31:56.11
Oh, yeah.
00:31:56.14\00:31:57.48
We were eating
Indian food and we looked at
00:31:57.51\00:31:59.21
the Adventist Review Magazine,
00:31:59.25\00:32:01.25
and we saw this
beautiful hospital.
00:32:01.28\00:32:03.95
Yes. In China, was it Hong Kong?
00:32:03.99\00:32:06.25
Well, it's in Hong
Kong actually, yeah.
00:32:06.29\00:32:08.49
We praise the Lord.
00:32:08.52\00:32:10.56
In Hong Kong, we
have two hospitals that
00:32:10.59\00:32:13.26
we call it Hong
Kong Adventist Hospital.
00:32:13.29\00:32:15.06
One is on the island,
and then the other one is
00:32:15.10\00:32:17.13
in a community called Tsuen Wan.
00:32:17.17\00:32:19.13
These were started
by Dr. Harry Miller,
00:32:19.17\00:32:22.00
what were they
called the China doctor,
00:32:22.04\00:32:23.54
our early, one of
our pioneers in China.
00:32:23.57\00:32:27.01
And when he, they
had to leave China.
00:32:27.04\00:32:29.61
He started many
Chinese hospitals.
00:32:29.64\00:32:32.51
But then when they
had to leave China,
00:32:32.55\00:32:33.88
they came to Hong Kong
00:32:33.92\00:32:35.25
and started these two hospitals.
00:32:35.28\00:32:36.62
For Tsuen Wan
hospital is built in 1964,
00:32:36.65\00:32:39.39
100 beds or so and it
had literally outgrown itself
00:32:39.42\00:32:44.13
way many years ago but--
00:32:44.16\00:32:45.86
Now, when Bob
says, Tsuen Wan Hospital,
00:32:45.89\00:32:48.16
that's a
hospital in a certain area
00:32:48.20\00:32:50.13
of Hong Kong called Tsuen Wan.
00:32:50.17\00:32:51.67
Like the neighborhood...
00:32:51.70\00:32:53.03
Yeah, a community there.
00:32:53.07\00:32:54.40
Community but we had,
00:32:54.44\00:32:56.94
we were always full,
we had a waiting list.
00:32:56.97\00:32:59.07
Maybe we just needed
to grow that hospital.
00:32:59.11\00:33:01.28
But God provided a
period of about seven years.
00:33:01.31\00:33:05.51
When the Hong Kong
government opened the doors
00:33:05.55\00:33:07.65
for mainland Chinese
mothers to come to Hong Kong
00:33:07.68\00:33:11.09
if they wanted to,
to have their babies
00:33:11.12\00:33:13.99
and many Chinese
want to come to Hong Kong
00:33:14.02\00:33:17.26
to give birth to
their children because--
00:33:17.29\00:33:18.99
They feel it's safer. Yeah.
00:33:19.03\00:33:20.60
And they can get
also resident cards
00:33:20.63\00:33:22.26
from Hong Kong.
00:33:22.30\00:33:23.63
Well, the hospitals in
Hong Kong were inundated
00:33:23.67\00:33:26.84
and so were our two hospitals.
00:33:26.87\00:33:28.60
And that allowed us
to have tremendous income
00:33:28.64\00:33:31.64
during those seven years.
00:33:31.67\00:33:33.07
The leadership at
the time set aside money.
00:33:33.11\00:33:35.98
And as you saw and I think
00:33:36.01\00:33:37.75
we have some
pictures of that new hospital.
00:33:37.78\00:33:39.95
We just were able to bring,
00:33:39.98\00:33:43.22
have our grand
opening in November
00:33:43.25\00:33:45.45
and we are slowly
but surely moving.
00:33:45.49\00:33:47.72
We've gone from 100 beds,
00:33:47.76\00:33:49.56
when it's fully
utilized will have 450 beds.
00:33:49.59\00:33:52.93
It's a 25 story
building state-of-the-art
00:33:52.96\00:33:57.10
and the God provided
the funds for us to do.
00:33:57.13\00:33:59.40
There's the older hospital
00:33:59.43\00:34:00.77
that four or five
stories building in front
00:34:00.80\00:34:04.21
and behind it is that
new 25 stories hospital.
00:34:04.24\00:34:08.01
And what's exciting it is that
00:34:08.04\00:34:09.61
it's the only private hospital
in that area of Hong Kong.
00:34:09.64\00:34:13.15
And it's so
overtly Christian too,
00:34:13.18\00:34:16.52
that it will make an
impact on the community there.
00:34:16.55\00:34:19.22
But we call it a
miracle hospital.
00:34:19.25\00:34:20.86
It is totally and right
when you walk in the lobby,
00:34:20.89\00:34:24.39
it's very clear this Adventist,
we have our chapel right there.
00:34:24.43\00:34:27.80
And on the first
floor we have our,
00:34:27.83\00:34:30.00
an entire church that
meets in the hospital.
00:34:30.03\00:34:32.47
We call it the
"Mountain View Church."
00:34:32.50\00:34:34.34
Just this last
week, I got a note from,
00:34:34.37\00:34:36.71
from our chaplain saying
00:34:36.74\00:34:38.07
that one of the families
who they were visiting with
00:34:38.11\00:34:41.08
came brought
their sick person in
00:34:41.11\00:34:43.68
went to church on Sabbath
00:34:43.71\00:34:45.51
in our hospital
church, we call it.
00:34:45.55\00:34:48.28
We often have hospital churches,
00:34:48.32\00:34:49.65
but I'm talking
about in the hospital,
00:34:49.68\00:34:51.79
we have our church.
00:34:51.82\00:34:53.15
You know, what's
nice about that is,
00:34:53.19\00:34:54.52
you can't take
evangelism to the community
00:34:54.56\00:34:56.16
but they could come to you.
00:34:56.19\00:34:57.53
That's right.
00:34:57.56\00:34:58.89
And a medical,
00:34:58.93\00:35:00.26
we talk about health
is an entering wedge,
00:35:00.30\00:35:03.26
the health message
and so here you are,
00:35:03.30\00:35:05.43
it's amazing that you could
have a hospital right there
00:35:05.47\00:35:07.20
and which you said it's obvious
00:35:07.24\00:35:09.47
that it's a
Christian institution.
00:35:09.50\00:35:10.91
And the government
00:35:10.94\00:35:12.27
because of the
great benefits to society
00:35:12.31\00:35:14.11
they're not really saying,
we need to shut this down.
00:35:14.14\00:35:15.61
Oh, no, no, in Hong
Kong we have that openness
00:35:15.64\00:35:17.98
to be able to do that.
00:35:18.01\00:35:19.95
And the challenges were across
the border in mainland China,
00:35:19.98\00:35:23.45
but Hong Kong,
we praise the Lord,
00:35:23.49\00:35:25.12
the government is very
supportive of what we're doing.
00:35:25.15\00:35:28.62
Yeah, even though
Hong Kong was returned
00:35:28.66\00:35:30.93
by the British to
mainland China in 1997,
00:35:30.96\00:35:34.90
it's still its own little system
00:35:34.93\00:35:38.30
as far as government rule.
00:35:38.33\00:35:39.77
So there are lot of freedoms in,
00:35:39.80\00:35:42.07
in Hong Kong that you might
not have in mainland China.
00:35:42.10\00:35:44.37
Tell us about the youth
there, the youth in China?
00:35:44.41\00:35:47.51
Well, listen.
00:35:47.54\00:35:48.88
It is amazing, when you
get together with young people,
00:35:48.91\00:35:52.85
in September I went and
did a training and I would say,
00:35:52.88\00:35:57.12
probably of leadership
in one particular region.
00:35:57.15\00:36:00.06
And I would say, probably
00:36:00.09\00:36:01.42
at least 50 to 60
percent of all the leaders
00:36:01.46\00:36:04.46
we would call young
adults or young married.
00:36:04.49\00:36:08.20
They're leading the church.
00:36:08.23\00:36:09.56
Now at the same time one
of the challenges in China
00:36:09.60\00:36:12.50
is that you have
this aging of society.
00:36:12.53\00:36:16.77
And so many of our
church members are elderly--
00:36:16.81\00:36:19.87
sometimes especially
in the rural churches,
00:36:19.91\00:36:22.38
all the youth have left
and have gone to the cities.
00:36:22.41\00:36:26.31
And this is a challenge
that we're facing there.
00:36:26.35\00:36:29.18
So, how you, so how are you--
00:36:29.22\00:36:30.99
let me use the word
here loosely evangelizing
00:36:31.02\00:36:33.72
because you have on
Hong Kong side no hindrance,
00:36:33.76\00:36:37.49
but then you have
in mainland China.
00:36:37.53\00:36:40.46
Based on obviously the religion,
00:36:40.50\00:36:42.20
what is the
predominant religion?
00:36:42.23\00:36:45.03
In China, it's Buddhism. Okay.
00:36:45.07\00:36:47.64
But honestly
that is only a name,
00:36:47.67\00:36:50.84
it's atheism.
00:36:50.87\00:36:52.74
It's atheism and
materialism and humanism,
00:36:52.77\00:36:55.81
most Chinese people
do not believe in God.
00:36:55.84\00:36:58.71
So, the Great Wall of
China would be God is missing.
00:36:58.75\00:37:02.62
You know, there is a
barrier between even mentioning
00:37:02.65\00:37:05.19
His name and how, how that came,
00:37:05.22\00:37:06.99
we talked about
some of that history
00:37:07.02\00:37:08.46
that this society--
00:37:08.49\00:37:09.92
I mean, when we think
about here in America,
00:37:09.96\00:37:11.59
everything is made in China,
00:37:11.63\00:37:13.13
it's electronic,
it's very secular,
00:37:13.16\00:37:14.96
it's very progressive,
it's very on the edge.
00:37:15.00\00:37:17.53
Lot of our devices
that are sold in America
00:37:17.57\00:37:20.24
are some portion of it
is manufactured in China.
00:37:20.27\00:37:23.77
So it's a city that, you
know, this modernization,
00:37:23.81\00:37:27.24
this secular mind is
just constantly going.
00:37:27.28\00:37:30.15
It seems like 24 hours
a day with the factories
00:37:30.18\00:37:32.31
and the
productions that go on there
00:37:32.35\00:37:34.22
so God is kind of pushed out
00:37:34.25\00:37:36.02
with all this
materialism and secularism.
00:37:36.05\00:37:38.55
Well, and how do we
reach the people of China?
00:37:38.59\00:37:42.59
There are, we try
every way, you know,
00:37:42.62\00:37:44.63
there's the media
00:37:44.66\00:37:45.99
and we try training
our leadership there.
00:37:46.03\00:37:48.50
One thing that is probably
our most exciting initiative
00:37:48.53\00:37:52.13
is helping to send teams
of two into Chinese people
00:37:52.17\00:37:55.60
and to
un-reached areas of China.
00:37:55.64\00:37:58.04
We have provinces in
China, the equivalent of states
00:37:58.07\00:38:01.81
that have no
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:38:01.84\00:38:03.95
We have people all across China
00:38:03.98\00:38:05.85
that have never even
heard the name of Jesus.
00:38:05.88\00:38:08.62
So one thing that we are
doing is actively involved
00:38:08.65\00:38:11.59
in helping to
support pioneer teams
00:38:11.62\00:38:14.26
going into
un-reached areas of China.
00:38:14.29\00:38:16.49
And right now we have over,
00:38:16.52\00:38:18.53
well, just the 200
teams now in areas of China
00:38:18.56\00:38:22.16
and they go in
and they know nobody.
00:38:22.20\00:38:25.37
And their goal is
to plant a church.
00:38:25.40\00:38:28.20
And so, we get reports
and a lot of exciting stories
00:38:28.24\00:38:31.47
from the frontlines
00:38:31.51\00:38:32.91
on what these
pioneer teams are doing.
00:38:32.94\00:38:35.28
Well, just in line with
00:38:35.31\00:38:36.64
what you talk
about the health message,
00:38:36.68\00:38:38.01
we got a report
and Audrey communicates
00:38:38.05\00:38:41.68
and gets these
reports on a quarterly basis.
00:38:41.72\00:38:44.12
She shared with me a
story about in Inner Mongolia.
00:38:44.15\00:38:47.59
This is a huge province
with very few Adventists
00:38:47.62\00:38:51.46
and very few Christians.
00:38:51.49\00:38:52.99
And a lot of superstitions.
00:38:53.03\00:38:54.46
A lot of
superstitions in that area.
00:38:54.50\00:38:55.96
Is Mongolia further
north? Yes, the north.
00:38:56.00\00:38:58.37
It's the northern
part and they call that
00:38:58.40\00:38:59.73
Inner Mongolia is
the part that's in China.
00:38:59.77\00:39:02.74
But, we had a team there and,
00:39:02.77\00:39:05.14
you know, what method they used
00:39:05.17\00:39:07.04
is health ministry
to do church planting.
00:39:07.08\00:39:10.05
They would just
literally go to the hospital
00:39:10.08\00:39:12.75
and begin visiting patients.
00:39:12.78\00:39:14.35
And they met a
lady there who in the,
00:39:14.38\00:39:17.19
you know, in years
past had come to know Jesus
00:39:17.22\00:39:20.96
through some other denominations
00:39:20.99\00:39:23.26
but had moved
back to Inner Mongolia
00:39:23.29\00:39:25.79
and therefore got disconnected
from any Christian group.
00:39:25.83\00:39:28.50
And here comes
these two pioneer teams,
00:39:28.53\00:39:30.70
young people to visit them
00:39:30.73\00:39:32.53
and care for her
and to pray with her.
00:39:32.57\00:39:35.07
And they start
studying the Bible together.
00:39:35.10\00:39:36.81
When she comes
out of the hospital,
00:39:36.84\00:39:38.37
they invite her to come to
this new little house church.
00:39:38.41\00:39:40.51
By then there was
00:39:40.54\00:39:41.88
30 some people
worshipping there.
00:39:41.91\00:39:44.05
And she has come face to
face with the present truth,
00:39:44.08\00:39:49.32
comes face to face with the fact
00:39:49.35\00:39:50.89
that Jesus is coming soon.
00:39:50.92\00:39:52.49
She accepts the
message and is baptized,
00:39:52.52\00:39:54.86
now is a faithful member
of this little house church
00:39:54.89\00:39:57.53
in an un-entered area
00:39:57.56\00:39:58.89
because these two
pioneer teams went
00:39:58.93\00:40:01.03
and basically
just visited hospitals.
00:40:01.06\00:40:03.57
Yeah, I just received
report recently this past week
00:40:03.60\00:40:07.27
of a pioneer team
that was trying to connect.
00:40:07.30\00:40:10.07
How do they connect
with their community?
00:40:10.11\00:40:12.17
So they set up a table
and they started providing
00:40:12.21\00:40:14.84
free blood
pressure checks for people.
00:40:14.88\00:40:17.35
And while people
were sitting there,
00:40:17.38\00:40:18.78
they made it a point to
ask them about their lives.
00:40:18.81\00:40:22.35
And this report
from this team says,
00:40:22.38\00:40:24.82
everybody has a problem,
there's something going on
00:40:24.85\00:40:28.16
that's hurting in
everybody's heart.
00:40:28.19\00:40:30.46
And as the people would come
00:40:30.49\00:40:31.83
and get their
blood pressure is taken,
00:40:31.86\00:40:33.60
this pioneer team
would begin to facilitate
00:40:33.63\00:40:37.77
those individuals opening
up and before you know it,
00:40:37.80\00:40:40.27
they were
praying with the people
00:40:40.30\00:40:41.64
that were coming,
introducing them to Jesus,
00:40:41.67\00:40:44.21
inviting them to come to church,
00:40:44.24\00:40:46.21
to their, to their house church.
00:40:46.24\00:40:48.84
Prayer is powerful
and prayer ministry
00:40:48.88\00:40:51.35
that's what
something that you're doing or?
00:40:51.38\00:40:53.78
Yes, I've been
involved with prayer ministries
00:40:53.82\00:40:56.02
and honestly it
can be overwhelming
00:40:56.05\00:41:00.02
when you look at the numbers.
00:41:00.06\00:41:01.79
And there are a lot of
unique challenges in China
00:41:01.82\00:41:04.53
because the, the lack of
"traditional organization"
00:41:04.56\00:41:09.16
that we see in our churches,
the checks and balances.
00:41:09.20\00:41:13.03
Anyway, it can be
overwhelming just,
00:41:13.07\00:41:15.07
just like everywhere.
00:41:15.10\00:41:16.47
But we have seen a
great impact on the difference
00:41:16.50\00:41:20.61
that is made when
people, people pray.
00:41:20.64\00:41:22.54
Amen.
00:41:22.58\00:41:23.91
And so, prayer is
something we all know about
00:41:23.95\00:41:25.71
but I mean, even
in my life personally,
00:41:25.75\00:41:27.88
it's one of those things
that I don't necessarily do
00:41:27.92\00:41:31.85
as often as I
should, that's always a,
00:41:31.89\00:41:34.92
a challenge and something
beautiful to make it more real.
00:41:34.96\00:41:38.09
So that is something
that we've been doing
00:41:38.13\00:41:39.69
in the Union office as
well as across China is
00:41:39.73\00:41:43.06
trying to make
prayer a more real part,
00:41:43.10\00:41:47.07
more vibrant part of life.
00:41:47.10\00:41:50.17
And to challenge our members
00:41:50.21\00:41:52.11
as Audrey goes
in those seminars,
00:41:52.14\00:41:53.78
as we go around and visit
with different groups in China.
00:41:53.81\00:41:56.88
To say, listen what
you're facing is not possible.
00:41:56.91\00:42:00.92
It is a God sized task.
00:42:00.95\00:42:03.05
We need to pray more.
00:42:03.08\00:42:04.55
We need to be united in prayer.
00:42:04.59\00:42:06.49
And, John,
00:42:06.52\00:42:07.92
I really would ask your viewers
to please pray for China.
00:42:07.96\00:42:12.89
As we come together I
believe and pray for China
00:42:12.93\00:42:16.56
in a focus conservative way
00:42:16.60\00:42:18.77
and I don't know how
this whole back story works.
00:42:18.80\00:42:21.44
I'm not sure exactly
00:42:21.47\00:42:23.04
how the levers of
this great controversy work
00:42:23.07\00:42:26.04
but we know that when we pray,
00:42:26.07\00:42:28.18
God has that
ability or that permission
00:42:28.21\00:42:32.65
to move where He
couldn't if we were not prying.
00:42:32.68\00:42:35.52
Now, when you talk about
00:42:35.55\00:42:37.15
something else
here the pioneer teams,
00:42:37.19\00:42:38.75
I want to go back to that
for really quick brief moment.
00:42:38.79\00:42:42.06
Because that is in fact the
arm of the church being extended
00:42:42.09\00:42:47.46
and there is a way
that that could be enhanced,
00:42:47.50\00:42:49.76
talk about, talk
about that because,
00:42:49.80\00:42:51.80
even though we
know that, you know,
00:42:51.83\00:42:53.27
in Hong Kong you talk
about the money is coming in
00:42:53.30\00:42:55.90
through all the
exponential growth of babies,
00:42:55.94\00:43:00.34
the birth of babies,
00:43:00.38\00:43:02.18
but how are these
pioneer teams being supported
00:43:02.21\00:43:05.88
and how can we get involved
in that particular area?
00:43:05.91\00:43:08.85
Well, that is one fantastic way.
00:43:08.88\00:43:10.59
We invite people to get
involved is to help support
00:43:10.62\00:43:14.29
pioneer teams in
un-reached areas of China.
00:43:14.32\00:43:17.13
Now, any small or large
amount makes a difference
00:43:17.16\00:43:20.53
but what we tend to ask
for is that $3,000 a year
00:43:20.56\00:43:25.43
and that breaks down
to what is $125 a month.
00:43:25.47\00:43:29.90
And it allows people to go
into un-reached areas of China.
00:43:29.94\00:43:34.08
It helps to
support their livelihood,
00:43:34.11\00:43:36.14
where they stay
00:43:36.18\00:43:37.65
and but one thing
I want to add that
00:43:37.68\00:43:40.05
in addition to
the monetary need is
00:43:40.08\00:43:43.82
we need more than anything,
prayers for these pioneers
00:43:43.85\00:43:46.22
because they do get
very, very discouraged.
00:43:46.25\00:43:48.79
And to have
people praying for them
00:43:48.82\00:43:51.29
makes a huge difference.
00:43:51.33\00:43:52.66
There's a little
saying that I like to use,
00:43:52.69\00:43:55.00
and that is that,
"Money puts rice in the bowl,
00:43:55.03\00:43:59.03
but prayer puts
life in the soul."
00:43:59.07\00:44:01.30
Amen.
00:44:01.34\00:44:02.67
And so, just like
Jesus when He did that,
00:44:02.70\00:44:05.91
the miracle of
breaking the fish and the bread
00:44:05.94\00:44:08.31
and fed thousands of people,
00:44:08.34\00:44:10.55
that's what we feel prayer does.
00:44:10.58\00:44:12.05
And China has been this,
00:44:12.08\00:44:14.38
this romanticized mystical thing
00:44:14.42\00:44:17.19
behind a bamboo
curtain for all these years.
00:44:17.22\00:44:20.16
But we want people
now to think of China
00:44:20.19\00:44:22.46
as a place where they
can make a difference.
00:44:22.49\00:44:24.23
That's right.
00:44:24.26\00:44:25.59
Where they can be a part
00:44:25.63\00:44:26.96
of what happens in
China by their prayers.
00:44:27.00\00:44:29.60
Just from their living room,
00:44:29.63\00:44:30.97
from their
devotional times praying
00:44:31.00\00:44:32.90
and as Audrey
mentioned financially
00:44:32.93\00:44:34.47
when folks donate
through, you know,
00:44:34.50\00:44:37.74
the website that
you'll see on the screen
00:44:37.77\00:44:40.48
and through our partners there
at OCI that $125 is per-person
00:44:40.51\00:44:45.45
there's two in
each team every month
00:44:45.48\00:44:47.95
and we've had
churches come together
00:44:47.98\00:44:50.45
and support a team.
00:44:50.49\00:44:51.82
But even if you just ten dollars
00:44:51.85\00:44:54.49
hopefully putted through this,
00:44:54.52\00:44:56.26
anything helps
us send more teams.
00:44:56.29\00:44:59.39
And it's not us sending,
00:44:59.43\00:45:00.80
it's the local
church across China saying,
00:45:00.83\00:45:04.50
"We can reach
that city over there,
00:45:04.53\00:45:06.20
we can reach that city."
00:45:06.23\00:45:07.60
And we come
alongside them and say, "Amen.
00:45:07.64\00:45:09.87
What can we do to help
00:45:09.90\00:45:11.24
and we provide
what finances we can."
00:45:11.27\00:45:13.94
But right now, we have 200 teams
00:45:13.98\00:45:16.08
but we need 1,000 teams.
00:45:16.11\00:45:18.81
But now is the time
to church plant in China
00:45:18.85\00:45:22.15
because given the
growth of the economy,
00:45:22.18\00:45:25.55
the devil is
entrenching himself more
00:45:25.59\00:45:29.02
and right now we
need to move forward.
00:45:29.06\00:45:33.40
I hear a question coming.
00:45:33.43\00:45:34.76
Oh, no, no, no. I'm--
00:45:34.80\00:45:36.43
we are gonna be
praying for China also.
00:45:36.46\00:45:38.53
Yes.
00:45:38.57\00:45:39.90
It's so important but
the people do need to give.
00:45:39.93\00:45:42.70
Well, it supports.
00:45:42.74\00:45:44.07
I just want to tell you
this one story real quick.
00:45:44.11\00:45:45.64
Sure.
00:45:45.67\00:45:47.01
It's a pioneer
team that moved into
00:45:47.04\00:45:48.51
an un-reached area of
China and before, you know,
00:45:48.54\00:45:51.65
they had people meeting
with them every Sabbath,
00:45:51.68\00:45:54.08
maybe around 20 people or so
00:45:54.12\00:45:55.92
and in the middle of
their Sabbath service
00:45:55.95\00:45:58.22
a lady came in and said,
"Is Jesus here? Is Jesus here?"
00:45:58.25\00:46:01.12
And she started just
yelling and screaming things
00:46:01.16\00:46:04.29
that were indiscernible
00:46:04.33\00:46:05.96
and she fell to the
ground right there in the church
00:46:05.99\00:46:09.50
and these two
pioneer teams thought,
00:46:09.53\00:46:11.20
"Oh, yes.
00:46:11.23\00:46:13.07
The church that sent us said
if anything like this happens,
00:46:13.10\00:46:15.80
we should gather
around and sing and pray."
00:46:15.84\00:46:20.48
So these two young pioneers
grab the members around said,
00:46:20.51\00:46:23.88
"Hey, let's sing and
pray over this person
00:46:23.91\00:46:26.68
who was yelling and screaming
and riding on the floor.
00:46:26.72\00:46:30.05
And they sang and they
prayed and there was no response
00:46:30.09\00:46:34.26
and the members
were so discouraged.
00:46:34.29\00:46:35.82
They are like "What happened?
00:46:35.86\00:46:37.19
You told us that we
should sing and pray
00:46:37.23\00:46:38.89
and we would see a change?"
00:46:38.93\00:46:40.26
Yeah.
00:46:40.30\00:46:41.63
And the two
pioneers looked at each other
00:46:41.66\00:46:43.40
and through their
eyes they determined that
00:46:43.43\00:46:46.30
they would pray
and they would sing
00:46:46.33\00:46:48.90
until there was a change.
00:46:48.94\00:46:50.41
So they did
00:46:50.44\00:46:51.77
and they saw this
person mellow out,
00:46:51.81\00:46:55.31
come to their senses and
the person stood and said,
00:46:55.34\00:46:59.11
"You know, ever
since I was small,
00:46:59.15\00:47:01.48
I have been possessed by demons.
00:47:01.52\00:47:04.29
But somebody told me
00:47:04.32\00:47:05.65
that if I could go into a church
00:47:05.69\00:47:08.02
that there I
would be liberated."
00:47:08.06\00:47:10.06
That person came
into that church today,
00:47:10.09\00:47:12.23
"Is Jesus here? Is Jesus here?"
00:47:12.26\00:47:14.06
And the devil was struggling
00:47:14.10\00:47:15.43
to keep a hold
of that person soul,
00:47:15.46\00:47:17.37
prayer and singing
00:47:17.40\00:47:18.97
and the leadership
of this pioneer team
00:47:19.00\00:47:21.40
brought this person freedom
00:47:21.44\00:47:23.17
that they never
would have realized.
00:47:23.20\00:47:24.91
That person began
to have Bible studies,
00:47:24.94\00:47:27.91
has found Jesus
and then baptized.
00:47:27.94\00:47:29.28
Amen.
00:47:29.31\00:47:30.65
That's an exciting
story. That's so exciting.
00:47:30.68\00:47:32.01
When you think
of the fact that--
00:47:32.05\00:47:33.38
The church. Yeah.
00:47:33.42\00:47:34.75
Coming in looking for Christ
00:47:34.78\00:47:36.12
and there is that
controversy going on right there
00:47:36.15\00:47:37.95
at that very spot, keep praying.
00:47:37.99\00:47:40.32
Well, somebody
had an acronym PUSH,
00:47:40.36\00:47:42.42
Pray Until Something Happens.
Yes, I like that. I like it.
00:47:42.46\00:47:45.36
You know, and I saw that
00:47:45.39\00:47:46.73
we grew up kind of with
that, with that acronym.
00:47:46.76\00:47:50.27
But what I want
to do for our viewing
00:47:50.30\00:47:52.07
and listening audience
00:47:52.10\00:47:53.44
because my wife
works for 3ABN radio,
00:47:53.47\00:47:55.10
I want to give
them an opportunity
00:47:55.14\00:47:56.47
to get the address,
00:47:56.50\00:47:57.84
so that you can
invite Bob and Audrey to come
00:47:57.87\00:48:02.44
and maybe share in your
church and your community
00:48:02.48\00:48:04.88
and also find out ways
00:48:04.91\00:48:06.25
to become more
actively involved in initiative
00:48:06.28\00:48:08.55
such as
supporting the pioneer teams.
00:48:08.58\00:48:11.15
Here is the
information that you would need.
00:48:11.19\00:48:16.02
If you like to know
more about this ministry
00:48:16.06\00:48:18.06
or how you support it,
00:48:18.09\00:48:19.43
you can do so by
writing to Chinese Union
00:48:19.46\00:48:23.00
C/O Outpost
Centers International,
00:48:23.03\00:48:25.97
5132 Layton Lane,
Apison, Tennessee 37302.
00:48:26.00\00:48:31.87
That's Chinese Union
00:48:31.91\00:48:33.91
C/O Outpost
Centers International,
00:48:33.94\00:48:36.95
5132 Layton Lane,
Apison, Tennessee 37302.
00:48:36.98\00:48:43.28
You can also visit
them online at kgrowth.org,
00:48:43.32\00:48:47.96
that's the letter kgrowth.org.
00:48:47.99\00:48:52.59
Contact them today,
00:48:52.63\00:48:53.96
they would love
to hear from you.
00:48:54.00\00:49:01.10
As you know our
program is not done yet but,
00:49:01.14\00:49:03.61
Bob and Audrey,
00:49:03.64\00:49:04.97
if you were to
think about the things
00:49:05.01\00:49:06.94
that are happening in China
00:49:06.98\00:49:08.51
you're gonna be
going back there not to--
00:49:08.54\00:49:11.01
Just few days. Just a few days.
00:49:11.05\00:49:13.42
When you land being the
stature of a man in China,
00:49:13.45\00:49:17.65
how have you founded
a blessing to be unique
00:49:17.69\00:49:21.69
in a very established society
00:49:21.72\00:49:24.36
and what I mean by
that is how do you blend in?
00:49:24.39\00:49:26.03
Yeah.
00:49:26.06\00:49:27.40
You know what, the language.
00:49:27.43\00:49:29.16
When you open your mouth
and you speak in Mandarin,
00:49:29.20\00:49:31.67
you speak their
language, it's amazing.
00:49:31.70\00:49:34.00
You go from being a
mile apart to a foot apart.
00:49:34.04\00:49:37.34
People say you care,
you talk in my language
00:49:37.37\00:49:40.91
and that's why I
think Jesus came here.
00:49:40.94\00:49:43.41
He could have sent messengers
and He did through His prophets
00:49:43.45\00:49:45.91
but when He came personally
00:49:45.95\00:49:48.38
I think that incarnational
ministry is critical.
00:49:48.42\00:49:51.92
Not only in what
we are doing in China
00:49:51.95\00:49:53.92
but what we do in everything
00:49:53.96\00:49:55.72
that we do in all
the ministry that we do.
00:49:55.76\00:49:57.79
Wow. Wow.
00:49:57.83\00:49:59.39
And when you
think about the work
00:49:59.43\00:50:01.86
how it's progressing
because here in America we,
00:50:01.90\00:50:04.53
you know, from
Sabbath to Sabbath
00:50:04.57\00:50:06.13
and week to week
in our evangelism
00:50:06.17\00:50:07.87
we say "We are
praying for Jesus to return"
00:50:07.90\00:50:12.04
but then we hear
reports like this
00:50:12.07\00:50:13.71
where there are people
that don't even know His name
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and it almost becomes like,
00:50:16.21\00:50:17.85
"Okay, not yet,
Lord, there are some people
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that need to know You in China."
00:50:19.85\00:50:21.98
You live with that daily reality
00:50:22.02\00:50:24.09
and you are eating the
cake one bite at a time.
00:50:24.12\00:50:27.19
How does that drive
you on a day by day basis
00:50:27.22\00:50:29.06
when you look at
nonmembers compared
00:50:29.09\00:50:31.66
to the 1.4 billion people
that you have to deal with?
00:50:31.69\00:50:36.56
Well, it can be,
00:50:36.60\00:50:38.07
it can be
overwhelming once again
00:50:38.10\00:50:40.50
because the church growth rate,
00:50:40.54\00:50:43.71
the spread of Christianity has
actually slowed down in China.
00:50:43.74\00:50:46.91
Why? Because what
people want is money.
00:50:46.94\00:50:50.41
They want to succeed.
00:50:50.45\00:50:51.78
They want to get that education.
00:50:51.81\00:50:53.98
They want to be comfortable.
00:50:54.02\00:50:56.08
They have seen now the
options that are out there.
00:50:56.12\00:50:59.12
So more than ever,
00:50:59.15\00:51:00.49
we need
supernatural things in China
00:51:00.52\00:51:03.06
that can happen only
through the outpouring
00:51:03.09\00:51:05.09
of the Holy Spirit
and through prayer.
00:51:05.13\00:51:06.96
Because just like us here,
just like in the United States,
00:51:07.00\00:51:10.47
it's easy to become
settled, to become satisfied
00:51:10.50\00:51:14.90
and turn our relationship
with Jesus into something
00:51:14.94\00:51:19.17
that happens just once a
week if we have time for that.
00:51:19.21\00:51:21.71
That's right.
00:51:21.74\00:51:23.08
So when I think of
summarizing what China needs is
00:51:23.11\00:51:25.61
that our people
have a sense of a message
00:51:25.65\00:51:29.55
that they need to share urgently
00:51:29.58\00:51:31.09
that people in
China have a greater need
00:51:31.12\00:51:34.06
than just to put
money in their pocket
00:51:34.09\00:51:35.96
and of course that
00:51:35.99\00:51:37.33
the Holy Spirit is
rained down in a mighty way
00:51:37.36\00:51:39.59
so that these things can happen.
00:51:39.63\00:51:41.16
And that's why
we emphasize prayer.
00:51:41.20\00:51:42.66
This is a God
sized task. That's right.
00:51:42.70\00:51:44.97
No initiative or,
yes, we praise the Lord,
00:51:45.00\00:51:47.40
this last year we had
the highest growth rate
00:51:47.44\00:51:49.37
we've had in 10 years.
00:51:49.40\00:51:50.84
So the church is
growing, the Lord is working
00:51:50.87\00:51:53.54
but how we will finish
00:51:53.58\00:51:55.04
the outpouring
of the Holy Spirit.
00:51:55.08\00:51:57.38
God is--
00:51:57.41\00:51:58.75
Our Book of Acts
says over and over again
00:51:58.78\00:52:00.82
"Showing, manifesting,
confirming the word of truth
00:52:00.85\00:52:05.29
through signs and wonders"
00:52:05.32\00:52:06.65
and that's gonna
happen, my friend,
00:52:06.69\00:52:08.02
and it's gonna
be a rapid movement.
00:52:08.06\00:52:09.92
And right now we
are sowing seeds,
00:52:09.96\00:52:11.39
we are doing what we can
but please pray for China.
00:52:11.43\00:52:13.50
Wow, you know, this
program is moving faster
00:52:13.53\00:52:16.30
than we would like it to.
00:52:16.33\00:52:18.20
We are gonna just take a
short newsbreak time here
00:52:18.23\00:52:20.60
and come back with
a few closing thoughts
00:52:20.64\00:52:23.04
to wrap up this very innovative
and God sized program.
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