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ACTS 911: Teaching Churches to Minister

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Participants: John Lomacang (Host), David Canther

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Program Code: TDY016019A


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01:08 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN.
01:10 My name is John Lomacang,
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01:30 that may be unique in your community.
01:33 But we're gonna discover today,
01:35 it is a need in every community.
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02:13 One good friend of ours
02:14 and also a good friend of our 3ABN family,
02:16 Gayle Jones Murphy is going to bless us with a song
02:19 entitled "I want Jesus to walk with me."
06:13 Thank you so much Gayle.
06:15 I've often said, she knows that keyboard very well,
06:18 but even more than the keyboard
06:19 she has a wonderful relationship
06:21 with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
06:24 Right now meet our guests, we have pastor David Canther
06:26 and his daughter Autumn Canther.
06:28 Good to have you here, David.
06:30 Thank you. Good to be here.
06:31 Yeah, I was glad we had a chance to talk
06:33 and by the way welcome, Autumn.
06:34 I wouldn't stretch my hand over there to shake your hand.
06:35 That's okay. Thank you.
06:37 Our producers will have a cowl there,
06:38 but it wouldn't be
06:40 aesthetically a good thing to do.
06:41 But good to have you both here today to talk about a program
06:44 and I wouldn't use the word concept
06:47 and all that you unfold that
06:48 and unpack that in just a moment,
06:49 but so glad to have you here.
06:51 David, for our listening and viewing audience,
06:54 just before we get into the topic,
06:56 just give us an overview who you are,
06:58 where you're from and what you do right now?
07:01 Thank you, Pastor John.
07:03 It's great to be here once again at 3ABN.
07:06 3ABN has been one of our greatest supporters.
07:11 You've been out on the field with us as well as Danny
07:13 in many disaster responses globally.
07:16 So, we've respond over one hundred times globally.
07:19 Katrina was one of the memorable ones
07:20 when a lot of 3ABN guests came in
07:23 and sang in one our sound stages,
07:25 helping people that are hurting.
07:27 So, having been a pastor like yourself for 32 years,
07:31 my passion is about helping people
07:35 in time of need emotionally, spiritually and physically.
07:38 So, ACTS World Relief
07:39 used to be the old name we went under.
07:41 Now, we have two divisions, GR3 and ACTS 911
07:44 is what we're going to talk about today.
07:46 Okay. And, Autumn, good to have you here.
07:48 Good to be here.
07:50 Let our viewers and listeners know who you are
07:52 besides your dad's daughter.
07:54 My name is Autumn Canther.
07:56 And currently I am studying physical therapy
07:59 and so I'm here for,
08:01 they have different schedules of the year.
08:04 So, I'm here on the summer break.
08:06 And glad to be here, thank you for having us.
08:09 Okay.
08:10 And just kind of, you're also bilingual I understand.
08:13 I am, yes.
08:14 Okay, I just want to bring that out because,
08:16 just to let our audience know
08:18 that this program most likely will be again heard in Spanish.
08:23 And I believe Autumn is going to be a part of that.
08:25 Unfortunately her dad
08:26 is not as fluent as he would like to be in Spanish.
08:29 So, you'll be excluded
08:31 but the message will still go forward.
08:32 Tell us about the ministry ACTS,
08:35 we'll start with the word ACTS
08:36 because it was first ACTS World Relief,
08:38 then ACTS GR3.
08:40 What does GR3 stand for?
08:42 So GR3 means Global Rescue Relief and Resilience.
08:47 So that's the deploying side, the emergency response side,
08:50 both in preparedness training and deploying.
08:53 I'm also a faculty at the Harvard BIDMC program
08:57 which is an emergency management,
08:59 so we train a lot of doctors,
09:00 medical people in the field how to respond.
09:04 But not only medically,
09:05 but today we're going to even be having a little fun
09:07 with psychological first aid.
09:09 That's emotional and spiritual care side.
09:12 So you have the GR3 side.
09:14 But a whole another division that only began two years ago
09:17 is both your and my passion
09:19 and that is church growth strategy.
09:22 How do you help that 80 percentile of churches
09:25 that are actually in decline through serving others,
09:29 52 percent of churches
09:32 have less than 100 members in their congregation.
09:35 So, there are common denominators
09:37 we're going to explore today.
09:39 You can invite ACTS 911 to come in as a consultant
09:44 and basically help your church grow
09:46 guaranteed 10 percent a year.
09:49 You talked about psychological first aid
09:52 and I also understood prior to our interview
09:57 that that is an area
09:58 that Autumn is very much involved in.
10:00 Tell us about that, because some people may be saying
10:02 psychological first aid, what in fact is that?
10:07 The psychological first aid
10:08 is just a way to be able to not only in disasters
10:12 but in everyday life to calm people down,
10:14 if they're having maybe a stress,
10:16 you know, a breakdown at work.
10:18 To be able to attend to those needs
10:20 because when people are, you know, just were where,
10:23 you know, familiar with the term burnouts here.
10:27 When we have too many things to do,
10:28 you know, we're just so stressed out.
10:30 We're getting to the maximum level,
10:31 that you can just realize those symptoms
10:33 and say how can I help you,
10:35 you know, in a very one on one level.
10:37 Okay.
10:39 And the sooner we mitigate, that's a word we use a lot.
10:43 The trauma, whatever it is in life.
10:45 The sooner and quicker God has created us,
10:47 so we can rebound.
10:49 Be resilient and so,
10:52 what we're going to have fun with in the second part is,
10:54 we're going to role play something.
10:56 Typical church setting scenario that could happen
10:59 to any of our listening audience.
11:02 And how to mitigate it quickly.
11:04 How to reduce the stress like Autumn was talking about,
11:07 so that we can be resilient and healthy happy Christians.
11:10 Okay. Now, Acts World Relief, do you still have that?
11:14 No. Okay.
11:16 Now, it's ACTS 911 and ACTS GR3.
11:19 Correct. Correct. And you're the CEO of that.
11:22 Wonderful, but you said, you had about--
11:24 Now, the 19 trucks or the 17 trucks
11:26 you talked about, do you still have that?
11:27 Yes, we have many of those trucks
11:29 located at Forest Lake Academy in Orlando, Florida.
11:32 But we have other kitchens in various places
11:34 in the country.
11:35 And so, that's to help churches
11:37 immediately mobilize school groups
11:39 in emergency response.
11:41 Uniquely enough though we have found over the years
11:44 that these two are very related.
11:48 When you help churches in natural disasters,
11:52 we spend years later
11:53 helping churches evangelistically reach out
11:56 because once they've helped them in time of need
11:58 churches grow exponentially.
12:00 So it's a first multiplier, when you're preparing
12:03 that church to now meet the needs and then they grow.
12:06 And that's what the ACTS 911 side as well.
12:08 Okay, so not only just giving.
12:10 I think in the Bible Jesus talks about
12:13 if there's someone who is destitute of food
12:15 and hungry and naked.
12:17 They would be more receptive to the gospel
12:19 if those needs were met first.
12:21 Jesus always loved to meet the needs of people first,
12:24 and then they were open to listening.
12:26 Tell us how you had received this impression of the Lord,
12:30 because, I know that anything that we do
12:31 is not something well, let me see
12:32 what else can I do in life?
12:35 But the Lord directs our hearts to fill a need
12:39 and that need is indelibly connected to the gospel.
12:43 It's not just an end in and of itself.
12:47 Talk about that, and then we want to lay the foundation,
12:49 so that our viewers at least,
12:51 we're gonna describe this for our listeners
12:53 but so our viewers could be able to understand
12:55 what they're about to see this short roll
12:57 in about two minutes.
12:59 And, but lay the foundation for that
13:00 so we could kind of begin to unpack the movie.
13:02 So the foundation is based on Acts 2.
13:04 When you read Acts 2,
13:06 you find that here the church is just growing exponentially.
13:10 There are ingredients
13:11 that will talk about that are very specifically clear.
13:15 We're gonna talk about four of those ingredients
13:17 but I pastored churches like yourself
13:19 that were very challenged.
13:20 I wanted God to lead me to churches
13:22 that were very challenged
13:24 and were going to cease to exist.
13:26 And how you could take a church
13:28 that was really closed its doors
13:29 even though a several million dollar edifice
13:31 was paid for entirely.
13:33 And yet, maybe only one family in the church,
13:35 the rest are retired.
13:37 And so, how to take that church within three years
13:40 so that it's now having five services on the weekend
13:43 filled with young people.
13:45 And the key is training as a resource tool,
13:48 laity finding out the strengths and talents
13:51 of your congregation, the people of that church.
13:54 Matching that
13:55 with what are the needs of my, of your community.
13:57 When you match those two together,
13:59 it becomes a vibrant church.
14:01 That's my passion, that's my joy.
14:04 Disaster started happening in Florida,
14:06 and since we are feeding people every week.
14:08 We were used to feeding,
14:10 we just started feeding thousands.
14:11 And so, it's to take that church growth strategy
14:14 and realize the gospel is very clear and simple.
14:18 Help the people that are hurting
14:19 and to realize it that when that's Holy Spirit driven,
14:24 it's a wonderful journey with God.
14:26 So, instead of answering questions
14:27 that people are not asking, because oftentimes we say,
14:30 well, we want to have this kind of series
14:31 or that kind of evangelistic outreach,
14:32 that kind of seminar.
14:34 And you ask about the relevance of it for the communities.
14:36 Sometimes people are not responding
14:38 because we're not giving answers
14:40 to the questions they're asking.
14:41 Or we're not filling a need that they have.
14:43 And we know in the consumer world,
14:46 the most successful formula
14:47 for getting a product into someone's home
14:50 is finding out what their needs are.
14:52 And so we wouldn't sell...
14:54 I just want to be kind about this.
14:56 We wouldn't sell farm equipment in Brooklyn, New York.
15:01 It wouldn't be relevant, but in this community it would.
15:03 We have to understand our people in our community.
15:05 Lay the foundation for this roll in
15:07 we're about to see.
15:08 Okay, so let's have a little fun
15:10 with four key principles.
15:12 Right.
15:13 The first principle according to Acts 2
15:16 is a principle that's very simple.
15:19 And that has to do with Christ centered
15:22 and Holy Spirit driven.
15:25 Every church has to begin with that
15:27 as their number one ingredient.
15:30 Are you Christ centered in everything that you do?
15:32 Are your ministries or your outreach,
15:34 are they all leading people to Christ?
15:37 If it's just a program, it's gonna die,
15:39 it doesn't have any meaning.
15:40 So, is it Christ centered? And is it Holy Spirit driven?
15:45 Because you and I can sit around cooking up new ideas
15:48 that the community needs to do for a new project.
15:51 But if it's not Holy Spirit driven,
15:52 it will cease to exist.
15:54 That's where the miracles happen.
15:56 We're gonna share some neat miracle stories
15:57 in these ministries in just a few minutes.
15:59 But, when you begin realizing, it's a God thing.
16:02 It's not us, it's not man made.
16:05 Right, you're just a conduit. Conduit.
16:07 So, in English the second C would be?
16:11 The Compassion.
16:13 And how important is, you know,
16:15 you've grown up in a lot of church growth
16:17 and been a part of a lot of community outreach.
16:20 How important would you see compassion
16:22 and relationships being a part of all this?
16:24 What's important about having compassion
16:26 is having those inter, those relationships
16:30 that are interpersonal.
16:32 The relationships that you have in the community
16:34 and in the church,
16:37 as you're able to have the relationships
16:40 in between the churches.
16:43 You're able to then go out into the community
16:45 and be able to serve them effectively.
16:48 Because when you have a compassionate heart,
16:50 you're able to see the needs a little bit more specifically,
16:52 that maybe our human eyes won't be able to see.
16:55 That's why important,
16:57 that's why it's important to have the Holy Spirit also
16:59 to be able to pray for that and say, you know.
17:02 Even though I love to glorify myself,
17:04 because we are humans, we all have that pride
17:07 that you know, the Holy Spirit.
17:09 We ask for that humility to,
17:11 to have that compassion for others.
17:13 You know, the Bible talks about the fact
17:15 that when Jesus saw the multitude,
17:16 He had compassion on them.
17:17 That's right, that's right. They knew it, they knew it.
17:19 And compassion gets involved.
17:22 Compassion gets down, pity looks down.
17:24 It's amazing you know, as I coached to many pastors
17:28 and church people.
17:31 If the pastor is not compassionate
17:33 with his own church members, he models that.
17:36 It's very difficult to get to the next level,
17:39 when we talk about community outreach.
17:42 You see, you have to develop a community that's the third C.
17:45 So, we find
17:47 that the first we talked about is Christ centered,
17:49 Holy Spirit driven.
17:50 The second one is what Autumn has just shared.
17:53 The third one has to do with community.
17:55 Community within you have to develop that
17:58 through the compassion she talked about.
18:00 If the pastor isn't modeling compassion to his members,
18:03 you have a little problem.
18:04 Because the church can only rise
18:06 as high as the pastor is demonstrating
18:08 that compassion as the leader.
18:10 And because then he model something
18:12 that the congregation begin saying,
18:14 "Wow, relationships are very important here."
18:17 So developing that community within.
18:19 Many times though,
18:21 churches are very dysfunctional as we know.
18:23 And so, you can't spend all of your time
18:25 like on mega churches
18:27 just talking about the community
18:28 and fellowship within.
18:30 You have to begin reaching out.
18:31 And many times, it's when we combine community within,
18:34 you become somewhat functional.
18:36 You're modeling, helping one another,
18:38 praying with one another caring.
18:40 But now, that begins spilling out to the community.
18:43 And so, now the community without you're finding
18:46 what are the community needs?
18:47 We're going to talk about a survey in a minute,
18:49 how you find it out?
18:50 But another is if you're identifying
18:52 the community needs.
18:53 And once you've done that, now your church community
18:56 begins reaching out to the community,
18:57 and it begins making sense.
19:00 And so that leads to that third community
19:03 and the fourth C is something that...
19:06 Sometimes we're resistant to this word.
19:10 And this last C is very important
19:13 because it's a changing world.
19:16 Exactly it's change.
19:17 You know, it's hard for us to be as humans
19:20 wanting to change because the situations around us
19:23 are constantly evolving.
19:24 And we need to be able to adapt to those situations,
19:27 so change is actually a biblical principle.
19:31 You know, as we're having in our relationships with God
19:34 as we're growing.
19:36 Everybody's growing, everyone's at a different level
19:39 that you have that change in your heart
19:41 that comes genuinely.
19:43 You know, some people will look at you in different ways
19:46 and say, "You need to change this.
19:48 You need to do that."
19:49 But if it's not, you know, God's driven,
19:52 that divine purpose won't be genuine.
19:55 So, let's get practical for a moment.
19:58 We as pastors sometimes
19:59 you were sharing with me earlier
20:01 about a tremendous thing that God is causing you to do
20:04 in your church having to think about our church plan.
20:06 What are we doing in this community?
20:08 But see we get to comfortable.
20:10 When it comes to change,
20:12 we as human beings all like to be comfortable,
20:14 kind of do the same thing over and over.
20:17 But I call it.
20:18 We call it different terms
20:20 but, you can call it institutional idolatry.
20:23 Another words you say,
20:25 we're going to keep doing it the same way,
20:26 my grandparents and five generations did it.
20:29 Whether it's the worship style,
20:30 whether it's the way you do things,
20:33 you just want to keep doing the same thing.
20:35 And that's where churches are dying.
20:37 So when the Holy Spirit is driving,
20:40 you are open to new ideas.
20:41 By beholding Christ, we become changed.
20:44 As a church community we're adapting now.
20:46 And that's why we had five different services
20:49 because we knew
20:50 that there are many needs in that community.
20:52 How can we design each service, that's meeting different needs?
20:55 We had to change.
20:57 I had to learn some Spanish, I had to preach in Spanish.
21:00 It's like whoa. Yeah! You preach in Spanish?
21:02 And so, another words that's a challenge.
21:06 But that's the parable to good Samaritan.
21:08 Jesus is saying, "When you see the needs,
21:10 are you ready to adapt?"
21:12 Thank the Lord. And then the church can grow.
21:13 We have Spanish translation at our church.
21:16 And matter of fact just this last service we had was,
21:20 I was saying to one of our leaders
21:22 who is practically alls.
21:24 Even our baby dedication was in Spanish.
21:26 So since they endured English at very Sabbath,
21:28 they can endorse Spanish this week.
21:30 But so, in this video roll,
21:32 then we're going to see these four models.
21:34 We're gonna see.
21:35 Actually going back in history, like you were talking about,
21:38 a little bit about Act World Relief.
21:40 How GR3?
21:41 What we've been doing
21:43 since some of our viewers haven't seen the Philippines
21:46 or Nepal response a lot of these things.
21:47 That's going to bring us up to speed.
21:49 Only two minutes on. Okay, bring you something.
21:51 Check out this video.
21:59 My name is David Cather, the founder and CEO
22:02 of what used to be Acts World Relief
22:05 which is now actually GR3 Inc,
22:07 which means Global Rescue Relief and Resilience.
22:11 So, you can find that on Facebook or on our website,
22:15 but a new exciting element of growth has to do it.
22:18 No, longer ACTS Road Relief but ACTS 911.
22:22 And so, ACTS 911 is all about active churches
22:26 that are serving, building relationships.
22:29 That's all about church growth strategy.
22:32 Finding people
22:33 and churches that want to grow through serving others.
22:36 It has to do about active churches
22:38 that love to reach out to their communities,
22:41 whether domestically or internationally.
22:44 I've really enjoyed that area as well as a former pastor.
22:47 Trying to help people understand that model,
22:49 it's all about serving one another in love
22:53 and developing relationships that causes church growth.
22:58 I've enjoyed training many pastors,
23:00 and psychologists, and world leaders
23:02 on church growth development, so that's ACTS 911.
23:05 Also we have GR3,
23:07 which is Global Rescue Relief and Resilience.
23:11 That's everything to have to do about responding
23:13 and recovering to over 100 global disasters
23:18 that we've been involved in over 3,000 volunteers.
23:22 So we want to give you that little update.
23:24 GR3 Inc, you can find on Facebook or our website.
23:28 And ACTS 911 just has to do about spiritual
23:32 and emotional psychological care
23:35 about church growth strategy.
23:38 If you want to find some exciting things
23:39 about either of those topics, go to one of those websites.
23:42 We've tried to separate the strength of each of them out
23:46 as God continues us to expand in the future.
23:54 Now, that was a summary of the ministry of ACTS.
23:58 Wonderfully connecting it to the Book of Acts,
24:01 the growth of the church
24:02 both spiritually and also community connection.
24:05 You talk about the exponential growth of the church.
24:08 There are number of facets that we saw just expand on.
24:13 I notice a lot of community outreach,
24:15 a lot of reaching out.
24:16 Tell us how easy that is to effect in a church.
24:21 It's actually very easy.
24:23 Once you understand the principle
24:26 of finding out what the community's needs are.
24:29 When you and I kind of grew up,
24:30 we were out with little surveys knocking on the doors,
24:33 trying to figure that out.
24:34 There're actually more efficient ways
24:36 and effective ways of finding out the community needs.
24:39 For example: You have...
24:42 You have a number of different resources
24:44 that you can find at ministerial association.
24:47 You can go over to the chamber of commerce.
24:49 I went to the judge as well.
24:50 And so basically I'm asking the judge I said,
24:54 "Can you describe to me, what do you believe
24:57 are the community's greatest needs?"
24:58 He says, "I'll tell you right up."
24:59 He says, "You're in a pretty affluent community
25:01 in Mount Dora.
25:03 And he said,
25:04 "Domestic violence, anger management."
25:06 And he says, "I have to court order people
25:08 to that every week rather than going to jail,
25:11 that's your other option."
25:13 And I said, "What if we signed up
25:16 and registered as a church
25:17 where you could court order them
25:19 to come to our church.
25:21 And we would have the correct certified people
25:23 the instructors lead out in domestic violence,
25:25 you know, anger management, domestic violence."
25:28 He said, "I would love that."
25:29 He said, because it has a Christ centered as it has.
25:32 It has a bigger picture that could help people,
25:36 you know, in the long run..
25:37 And so, starting two months
25:39 after that little visit together.
25:41 Every month, he would court order
25:43 between 30 and 40 to come to our church.
25:45 Now, we got rid of the name Sabbath school.
25:47 Right. We call it the seminar time.
25:49 We had always a minimum of seven seminars going on.
25:53 And so, that's how easy it becomes,
25:55 I find the needs, match it up.
25:57 And now, your church begins meeting those needs
26:00 both within having seminars.
26:02 And we had people
26:04 that were challenged in our own congregation
26:05 with domestic violence, anger management.
26:07 And I put them in that class to help lead it, to teach it.
26:10 And so, ministries become very natural
26:14 and normal when you find out
26:15 what your community's needs are.
26:17 Are we meeting those needs?
26:19 It's evolving. Have you seen that?
26:21 Have you seen that--
26:22 Now, having a dad with such a broad platform
26:27 of abilities and skills.
26:29 How has that impacted your life?
26:32 That's been so interesting.
26:33 Ever since I was little just,
26:36 I think I was at the church almost every day which--
26:39 it just became my home, you know,
26:40 walking in the hallways and finding things to do.
26:43 I didn't get bored easily.
26:45 So, you know, it was just fun to find different things to do
26:48 and when I was seeing these seminars happening.
26:51 Now, that I'm older, he was telling me,
26:53 you know, the other day
26:54 that we had also a Spanish ministry,
26:56 and I said man, you know,
26:57 if I would have learned even Spanish earlier,
26:59 but just the different ministries that you can see
27:03 as you asked the chamber of commerce
27:05 or different people in the community
27:07 what their needs are specifically.
27:09 We had different plumbing, you know, ministries.
27:12 We had seminars, where you could teach people
27:14 how to do electrical things.
27:17 Different things like that.
27:19 You know, as a little girl
27:20 you're not able to see a lot of that.
27:22 But you're seeing a lot of people
27:23 from the community coming into the church, and saying,
27:26 "Wow, they're from all different,
27:27 you know, ranges of the community"
27:30 and that's a great thing to have.
27:31 I was just speaking to a couple of our leaders,
27:33 I mentioned that to you before the program I said,
27:36 here we have a wonderful facility
27:37 with a lot of classroom space.
27:39 What do you think would happen
27:41 if we'd cave after school programs
27:43 for people that want to learn Microsoft Word,
27:44 the beginning level?
27:45 Good, good.
27:47 What about for single parent, classes on single parent.
27:50 Do you think that that would be something
27:51 that is need in this community?
27:54 Yeah, what about all these graphic and video editors...
27:58 Terrific, terrific.
27:59 Things that are practical that are write down all I want.
28:01 What about somebody who wants to understand
28:03 how to set up a website?
28:05 You know, these are basic things
28:06 and I said in some cases
28:08 for just a minimal registration fee.
28:10 So that anything they invest
28:12 and they'll be more likely to come and attend it for--
28:15 We changed our choir room into a computer lab
28:17 for just that.
28:19 Communities came and our young adults,
28:21 all taught them website design, windows,
28:24 how to work, all for free.
28:26 And so, you had finances 101, plumbing, electrical,
28:30 how to fix a leaky faucet, all that kind of stuff.
28:32 The most popular one that she was referencing
28:34 was on Friday night and Wednesday night
28:36 and that is English literacy.
28:40 It was always packed.
28:42 And so, every community has specific needs.
28:46 And so, when you tap into that like you're saying.
28:48 It's exciting in ministry in how the Holy Spirit
28:51 just drives it and you're meeting
28:54 and interacting people all the time and it's fun.
28:57 Now, a lot of times we do community surveys.
29:00 But let's talk about a church survey here.
29:03 You have one that you can share with us.
29:04 So, we're going to show on the screen
29:06 an example not by detail,
29:07 we're not going to go through the whole survey,
29:08 but there's 28 questions.
29:10 Okay. And on the survey.
29:12 For example, it's trying to have a church
29:15 understand its unique calling.
29:17 Every church is unique, because the members within that church.
29:20 We're talking about church members,
29:22 that's what a church is.
29:23 They have gifts, talents and uniqueness.
29:25 So, in other words,
29:27 we want to find out when we're coming in
29:28 as a consultant team with ACTS 911.
29:31 We want to help your church grow.
29:32 We want to help you identify your unique church's purpose.
29:37 And so, these 28 questions are designed in a way.
29:41 We're going to just choose three maybe for example.
29:43 And so, how your church rates in points,
29:48 whether you're going to be a growing church
29:49 or a dying church?
29:51 And so, let's, let's have fun with three little questions.
29:54 Now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at the sheet for just a minute.
29:57 Autumn has chosen three that she kind of liked.
30:00 And so, the first one is number five on the sheet
30:03 that you saw there.
30:05 Our congregation knows what the community's needs are
30:09 and meets them.
30:10 And the responses are from one to five.
30:12 One to five.
30:13 Five being very informed, one being ignorant.
30:16 Now, if it's one, you know, your church is out of touch.
30:20 And so, you're trying to prompt that church
30:22 with the right questions to have them think about things
30:24 for action steps afterwards.
30:26 So not only do you help go through the survey
30:28 with the congregation, but the action,
30:31 the outcome, the action plan afterwards.
30:35 You work with the church to say wow
30:37 and as you're going around with your leaders and members.
30:40 So, this survey is designed in that.
30:42 We've talked about five a lot,
30:43 actually so far meeting those needs.
30:45 Now, the next question that you've circled actually
30:48 is our doctrines are focused on God's love from one to five.
30:53 How do you find,
30:55 that's very important within a church congregation?
30:57 It's so important to just show God's love
31:00 I think our generation,
31:02 you know, wants to see the action.
31:04 We want to see something that's actually tangible.
31:07 And to say, okay,
31:08 how are we reaching these needs to the community
31:10 when we have so many internal problems.
31:13 You know, we have these problems that...
31:15 We have hypocrisy,
31:17 we have different things going on
31:18 that we want to see something tangible
31:20 so, you know, as we hear God's word in the church,
31:24 as we read God's word on our own.
31:26 You know, we want to do something and say,
31:27 "Okay, how can we do this."
31:29 And so focusing on God's love,
31:31 I think is the best way shown in through actions.
31:35 When she grew up kind of having fun with us.
31:37 Let's take the Sabbath for example.
31:39 Rather than focusing on the thou
31:41 shalt not do whatever and don't eat the following.
31:44 You focus on the positive.
31:46 God's love says, you know,
31:48 there's a special day that God blessed.
31:50 Do you like blessings?
31:51 So, you're focusing on the positive.
31:53 You're extenuating. Yeah.
31:54 Isn't that wonderful
31:56 that God has created us to be healthy,
31:57 the temple of God.
31:59 He wants us to be, he wants us to live long.
32:01 How can we do that?
32:03 Well, millennials love to hear that positive action.
32:07 Right.
32:08 And so, ACTS 911 is all about acts,
32:11 action, churches.
32:13 You want to be actively involved.
32:15 You want to look back at the Book of Acts and find out,
32:18 how can we become a vibrant church like that.
32:21 So the last question we'll have fun with.
32:23 This was 12 you've circled.
32:25 How we live is more important
32:28 than what we say as a congregation?
32:30 And I think that just, you know,
32:31 ties into the prior one number seven is,
32:35 you know, that we want to be able to see.
32:39 You know, we're saying so many things,
32:41 we hear a lot of things but when we see the action,
32:44 that's the most important thing.
32:45 The gospel in action. Yes.
32:47 Matter of fact, this is crazy.
32:50 I mean, I'm sitting here soaking this up,
32:51 I've been pretty quiet as an interviewer.
32:53 Lot of times I'm more interactive
32:55 and I'll become that in just a few moments
32:56 but I'm hearing my sermon play itself out,
32:59 the sermon I just preached, it's called the Deception.
33:02 And the deception was thinking, that what you say
33:05 and what you do has no impact on your salvation.
33:07 Yes.
33:08 And, you know, it's a comparison
33:09 between the Pharisee who said thank God,
33:11 I'm not like other men, and he began to accentuate
33:13 all of his doctrinal accuracies.
33:15 I tithe that everything I have, you know...
33:18 I keep the Sabbath.
33:20 And but the other one who was a tax collector says.
33:24 You know be, be merciful to me a sinner,
33:26 beating his breast and not feeling his worthiness.
33:29 And we can create a chasm between those who need
33:31 to be closer to Christ, and He stood afar off.
33:34 And with this concept, there are many in the community
33:37 that are far off,
33:38 because we are creating such an un-welcomed atmosphere
33:41 by our doctrinal...
33:44 Let me use this word here, by our doctrinal roadblocks.
33:48 Now doctrines are not roadblocks.
33:50 But the way you present them can become roadblock.
33:53 Want to just clarify that.
33:54 So I'm seeing that here that these things
33:58 that God has established to be a positive.
34:01 Yes.
34:02 Can become a negative based on how you present them.
34:05 How you present it. Right.
34:06 And when we're modeling God's love
34:08 and demonstrating that,
34:10 youth love to come to your church.
34:11 Okay.
34:13 We're kind a...
34:14 We'll show the viewers a third sheet.
34:16 This one is 101 ministries
34:19 of how that when you're understanding
34:21 the needs of your community,
34:22 and we're not going to go through all...
34:24 The acts of kindness one. Okay. The acts of kindness.
34:26 So, if you want to just show that sheet.
34:27 We're not going to go through them all
34:29 but we're going to maybe pick out
34:30 a couple miracle stories.
34:31 We called our church a one stop shop.
34:33 Okay.
34:34 And so, 101 acts of kindness that you're doing.
34:38 These are the seminars we've been talking about.
34:41 Every Sabbath, I'd stand in front of the people
34:43 and I'd say, "I'm praying for God
34:44 to give you a vision and a dream,
34:46 of what He's called you to do in a new ministry."
34:49 And literally,
34:50 the Holy Spirit would reveal that vision of the dream
34:53 to our members and our youth.
34:55 Who would say, well, what do you think about that?
34:57 So, as the finance committee,
34:59 we called it a visionary committee,
35:01 not a board meeting.
35:02 We said, give us a one, three and five your goal plan
35:05 has to how God has called you to this ministry.
35:07 Write out your financial plan.
35:09 We will help assist you,
35:11 because we want to guarantee success to your ministry.
35:13 So we would fund them once they turn that into us.
35:16 That's what these 101 ministries
35:18 became in our church.
35:19 These are just theory,
35:21 these are things we did in that church
35:22 and while it became five services.
35:24 Functional and practical. Okay. Very practical.
35:26 So one stop shop.
35:29 Yes, many years ago, Autumn and I were having fun
35:32 rehearsing this little bit talking about remembering it.
35:35 But I said, okay, we've been doing a lot of work
35:37 in this community we called it Oakwood.
35:40 As the ministerial president, I worked with a lot of pastors
35:43 and I asked them I said,
35:45 "How many of you working in Oakwood?
35:46 That's one of our low income areas, high crime."
35:49 And they said, "We stay out of there."
35:51 And I said, "That's the place we're going to target."
35:54 And so, we did ministries on Friday night,
35:56 on every Saturday.
35:57 Going out with Autumn and a lot of the youth.
36:00 Like a mini VBS, we called it kids' club.
36:04 And so, we're feeding the people in that community.
36:06 They're doing VBS.
36:08 They're singing, they're having all kinds of fun.
36:10 We had, we had our fellowship dinners out there
36:12 once a month.
36:13 So, we call it a one stop shop
36:15 because we bought, first of all the bus.
36:17 We started the community outreach center.
36:19 It grossed over million dollars the first year,
36:22 meeting people in the community, okay.
36:24 Now, how did you gross over a million dollars,
36:25 tell me about that?
36:27 It's like a glorified thrift store.
36:28 Okay.
36:30 And out of that thrift store,
36:31 people are giving you stuff, it's a great ministry.
36:33 Which one of these 101 ministries,
36:35 we have a whole training manual
36:37 on how to begin your own thrift store.
36:38 The thrift store became my second home.
36:42 And so, it's all about ministry though.
36:44 And building bridges through the things that we possess.
36:46 That's a model that the Book of Acts use
36:48 nobody consider anything to have to be their own
36:50 but it belong to everyone.
36:51 Now, at first the conference wasn't too excited at the idea.
36:54 They said, "You're kind of mixing business and church."
36:56 And I said, "No, no, hundreds are coming to you every day."
36:59 Okay.
37:00 Well, after the first year, after it was making good money
37:03 but impacting thousands.
37:05 The first year we helped over $600,000 in goods
37:08 to needy people burned out victims, mothers,
37:11 divorced on and on
37:13 and then the conference director came
37:14 and said, "I was against your brother,
37:17 but now I'm for you.
37:18 Can you develop your training menu."
37:19 I give him a lot of credit for that.
37:21 Because many times we have to be innovative
37:24 with the power of the Holy Spirit.
37:26 And so, now our church has money.
37:28 Money is coming in, and we said
37:29 we want to fund you in a new ministry.
37:31 So we called it a one stop shop church.
37:33 So, bought a bus, dual air conditioning,
37:37 picking up people from Oakwood, we called it.
37:39 Going down to the homeless camp,
37:41 if you came from the homeless camp three times
37:44 to join one of our seminars, we gave you a free tent.
37:47 The tenet said life changing ministries
37:49 Seventh-day Adventist Church.
37:50 Free tent? Okay. Free tent.
37:52 When they came to the church, we welcome,
37:54 our deaconesses welcome them.
37:55 We took their dirty laundry.
37:57 Took it back into a room
37:58 where they began washing and drying it
38:00 while they were in a seminar.
38:02 They finished one of the seminars
38:03 in finance 101 or whatever their thing was.
38:07 And then they came into the worship service.
38:10 They had a good hot meal after they were done.
38:12 So by the time they're getting back on the bus,
38:14 they got their laundry done, they got a hot meal.
38:17 They're learning things about the seminar
38:18 and had a wonderful time of worshipping.
38:20 They were joining our church.
38:22 We always had a different equation.
38:23 We had more nonmembers attending the members.
38:27 So, that's funny evangelism. That's good.
38:28 It's outreach evangelism. Right.
38:30 And so, anyway they came three times,
38:32 they got their free tent.
38:33 And you know, after a while I said,
38:34 you know, Lord, what I like to read in the bus,
38:37 that is not cool.
38:38 I mean it had air conditioning,
38:40 but for me it's just not, you know.
38:42 So, we bought our first limousine.
38:45 And we said, we're going to make our guests feel
38:46 like kings and queens come into this church.
38:49 Make them feel good.
38:50 Life changing ministries on the side of it.
38:52 So we got the first limousine.
38:54 We were sitting in one of our visionary meetings
38:57 during the week.
38:58 And I heard a knock on the door,
39:00 on outside door by my office.
39:02 And I opened the door
39:04 and an individual was there in a white suit.
39:07 He said, "I was driving by the front of your church
39:09 and the Holy Spirit spoke to me,
39:11 I have not stepped my foot in any church in over 20 years.
39:14 And he said, the Holy Spirit said,
39:16 "Stop in here, I don't know why I am here."
39:18 But he said, "I own a limousine company."
39:21 We invited him into our visionary meeting
39:23 and I said, "Do you know
39:24 at the beginning of this meeting,
39:25 we were praying about buying our second limousine."
39:28 But I said, "You walked in owning a limousine company."
39:32 He said, "Actually I was an Adventist 30 years ago."
39:35 And he said, "I haven't been in any church,
39:37 I went to another church.
39:38 Didn't find they were helping me."
39:40 But he said, "I know what you guys have been doing
39:42 in the community.
39:44 I've heard it, you're over there in Oakwood,
39:45 you're helping at different places."
39:47 And he said, "I was just wondering,
39:48 if I could help in, you know, what God has called you to do."
39:52 Get reconnected.
39:53 Reconnected, and I turned to the group and we applauded.
39:57 And they said, "This is a Holy Spirit thing.
39:59 This is a miracle thing."
40:00 I said, his name was Dr. Civic.
40:03 And I said, "Dr Civic, we would like to offer
40:06 giving you our first limousine, joining it to your fleet.
40:10 You're willing to pay an extra employee
40:12 and yourself to bring people
40:14 every Sabbath to our functions."
40:17 You know, it's cheaper to let you own it than us own it.
40:20 Okay.
40:21 You don't have to own it to enjoy it."
40:23 And so we gave him our limousine,
40:25 he joined it with his fleet.
40:26 He hired extra people to bring those people
40:28 and Autumn witnessed that for many years.
40:31 He would sit on the front, bringing people in,
40:33 he would make his little route.
40:36 He would go down the homeless camp,
40:38 went to Oakwood, went to different places.
40:39 We had a handicapped van that picked up people
40:41 who couldn't get there by wheelchair.
40:43 So people are coming, you know,
40:46 that's what this 101 ministry is about.
40:47 Wow, wow.
40:49 Now, did you have a graphic to talk about
40:50 the emotional and spiritual care?
40:53 We do.
40:55 And this is probably one of the fun things
40:58 that we enjoy doing.
40:59 That little graphic that you're going to see.
41:02 Once again only illustrates when we're coming in to train,
41:05 how emotional and spiritual care are vitally important.
41:10 Because people have traumas every day of their lives.
41:13 You want to try to mitigate that as quickly as possible
41:16 which simply means reduce the level of anxiety
41:20 as Autumn was talking about.
41:21 Now, chime in on that, Autumn.
41:23 And talk about the functionality of that
41:26 and the actual experience of putting that into practice.
41:28 The practicality of this survey is something
41:33 that's just important.
41:34 As you know, as scenario that we were mentioning earlier
41:37 to connect with people, to be able to direct them
41:40 when they're in shock.
41:41 You're not thinking clearly, so your mind is,
41:43 you know, either frozen. Everyone reacts differently.
41:46 So, in that experience that you're able to connect
41:50 with the person and to put your hand on their shoulder
41:52 and to say, I'm here for you, I'm not leaving you until,
41:56 you know, whatever situation he is through that
41:58 we can talk this through or even just presence.
42:01 You know, some people just need the presence,
42:03 the embrace to cover them, you know, with a blanket,
42:06 different things like that to practically to calm them down.
42:08 Sometimes not to say anything at all
42:10 but just to be there with them to hold their finger,
42:14 hand on the shoulder.
42:15 Would you like us to illustrate?
42:17 Sure, if you feel comfortable doing that.
42:19 Now, talking about that I know over a ministry
42:21 that there are some cases, where in homes,
42:23 where there's a trauma in the family.
42:25 Oh, yes.
42:26 And the child has to be removed
42:27 for this particular ministry that,
42:29 when they show up to, have the child removed,
42:31 they have a teddy bear.
42:33 They have a blanket, they have all those tools
42:35 that would bring comfort to the child.
42:37 And that child immediately grabs onto that toy,
42:41 that blanket and becomes somewhat
42:43 of an immediate comfort to them to know that
42:45 they're not just being put in a cold
42:47 calculated sterile environment,
42:50 where they're separated from the people that they love.
42:52 And then, they're welcomed in, I guess along that line.
42:55 So, you're bridging that something
42:57 they're familiar with in showing compassion,
42:59 building a relationship.
43:01 So, we're going to illustrate here
43:03 for example in a church setting.
43:05 This is happening more and more around the world.
43:07 Things that you would never expect,
43:09 but when you're not prepared for it,
43:13 it can be disastrous.
43:14 Let's say, we're in a church setting,
43:16 I'm not going to...
43:17 I'm not going to give you everything ahead of time.
43:19 But we're going to illustrate,
43:20 this is happening in a church setting now.
43:24 Offering has just been taken, okay.
43:27 And something happens as we're all ready to be
43:32 fed with a great spiritual thing.
43:34 But something far different Satan had in mind happens next.
43:38 That's something that, you know,
43:40 we can relate as
43:41 different terrorist attacks are happening,
43:44 to get back into the situation of,
43:46 you know, the offering has just been taken
43:48 and there's someone that comes in,
43:50 a robber wanting to get all of the money.
43:54 You know, whether it's Saturday,
43:55 whether it's whatever day.
43:57 People want money today. That's unfortunate in case.
44:00 That's true.
44:01 So, you know, they come in, and they,
44:03 you know, they have a gun.
44:05 And they say, "Okay, give me all the money."
44:07 And the members, can you imagine I mean,
44:10 seeing a gun, seeing money.
44:12 You don't know where your life is going at that point.
44:14 So let's say, I'm the pastor, okay?
44:16 You and I were up front now, this is just taking place.
44:19 What do you as a pastor do when all of a sudden
44:22 this began spiraling as it were out of control?
44:26 You faint.
44:27 And that's very real. Fainting.
44:30 Go into shock, because remember up to 70 percent of people
44:34 have no medical conditions at all.
44:36 They go into shock and can die.
44:38 Just over the trauma, just over the stress.
44:42 So, we're going to role play this a little bit.
44:43 Okay.
44:45 And let's see how we can help at the stress level.
44:48 She is going to be the ballistic member.
44:51 You always have the screamers.
44:53 You gonna be able to.
44:54 And I try not to scream too much into the mike.
44:56 All right, go ahead.
44:58 Oh, my goodness!
44:59 What is this person doing?
45:01 He wants to take the money.
45:02 He takes all is right here beside me.
45:04 What do I do?
45:05 Hello, my name is David.
45:07 And what is your name?
45:08 Penelopi.
45:10 Penelopi?
45:11 Yes.
45:12 Penelopi, I know you're asking a very good question.
45:14 You've just seen something very terrible happen.
45:17 But, you know,
45:18 there's something we do as a church,
45:20 it's called a comprehensive emergency management plan
45:22 how to help.
45:24 Okay, so there's a plan? What's the plan?
45:25 We have a plan, and the plan I'm gonna share
45:27 with you is that we have drills,
45:28 that we do in our church family.
45:30 Okay.
45:31 And so, the beautiful thing about it is
45:33 that the terrorists have just left.
45:35 And so, they're out,
45:36 we have some deacons out there dealing with that issue.
45:39 911 has been called.
45:40 Okay.
45:41 The police are coming.
45:43 But we're right now about to file out
45:44 in a very orderly way.
45:46 And so, follow our queue leaders now.
45:49 We're going to go out the side door,
45:50 not the door that the terrorists
45:52 has just left out of.
45:53 We're going to make our way out the side door.
45:55 Everybody is going to go out quickly but in order.
45:59 Do you understand what I'm trying to share with you?
46:02 I'm trying to understand yes,
46:03 that I just want to get out of here.
46:05 Now, Autumn, I want to let you know.
46:07 I'm going to be with you.
46:08 I'm not going to leave you. Okay?
46:10 And we're going to provide resources with you,
46:12 to help support you in this time of need. Okay?
46:14 Okay. all right.
46:16 So, so it helps you to understand.
46:19 Now, let's go into the spiritual part. Okay?
46:21 That was, that was an amen. Praise the Lord.
46:24 Now, here's where it gets fun though the spiritual part.
46:27 Autumn, do you like blessings?
46:29 Of course like everybody.
46:31 You know, God is so good.
46:33 And what I would like to ask right down Autumn is,
46:38 would you like me to pray a prayer
46:40 blessing with you before we go out.
46:43 I would like that very much.
46:45 Lord, I want to thank you,
46:46 that you're with Autumn right now.
46:48 That You're here, You have promised
46:50 never to leave her or forsake her.
46:53 And, Lord, I want to give you thanks
46:55 that you are a God who loves to be strong with her.
46:59 And that you're with her right now,
47:00 healing her physically, emotionally,
47:03 and spiritually in Jesus' name, amen.
47:05 Amen
47:06 Now, the beautiful thing about.
47:07 Many people feel awkward about the spiritual part,
47:09 how do we get to the spiritual part
47:11 in disaster response or in the situation.
47:14 I've never in thousands of times
47:16 I've prayed with people in time of disasters
47:17 or needs everyday in their life.
47:19 We all like blessings, you see.
47:21 And so, you don't just say,
47:23 "I'm going to pray with you."
47:25 That can create a fuss.
47:26 Right.
47:27 You don't push yourself or you don't say,
47:29 notice I didn't say,
47:30 "I'm going to pray over you."
47:32 That sounds like last rites.
47:34 But you're asking permission, can I pray with you?
47:37 A prayer of blessing.
47:38 There's all kinds of wonderful promises
47:41 that come out now in that prayer.
47:43 You try to keep mentioning their name.
47:45 Once again, you've told them at the beginning,
47:47 you're going to be with them, you're not going to leave them,
47:49 just like you prayed in the prayer.
47:51 Jesus promised, He'll never leave us or forsake us.
47:54 You know, I had that--
47:55 I had that one example on a plane.
47:59 On 9/11 September 2001 coming from London.
48:05 When I lived in California, my wife and I were there
48:07 and they made the announcement about the incidents
48:09 in the World Trade Center, and also in Washington D.C.
48:13 and there was lady sitting right in front of us
48:15 on this Boeing 777 United Airlines,
48:18 we were being rerouted.
48:20 And she immediately burst into tears.
48:22 Similar to well, that was really good.
48:26 But she was in trauma because she said,
48:28 my son works in that building.
48:30 And I was sitting right behind her
48:31 and I said, "My name is", introduced myself
48:35 Good, good. Pastor.
48:36 Yes.
48:38 I like to, you know,
48:39 I just spoke with her calmed her, is that okay,
48:40 if I prayed with you?
48:42 And in short I know what you're going through,
48:45 I worked in that building.
48:46 I have family in New York, I understand where he is,
48:48 and you know in just a matter of minutes,
48:51 she was calm, she stopped deep breathing,
48:54 she stopped hyperventilate
48:55 and I said, "It's going to be just fine."
48:57 So if you can imagine in a church setting.
48:59 We've been rerouted to a safe place,
49:01 we're in no immediate danger.
49:02 And I'm sure that those who are on the site
49:04 will make sure that things are okay with him.
49:06 So let's say, you're a leader in the church
49:08 and something bad is happening in the whole congregation.
49:10 The sooner you can intervene, mitigate the situation,
49:13 lower the stress level with a plan.
49:15 Now you know, tragically enough I asked many churches.
49:18 Do you have an emergency response plan?
49:21 Most of them do not. That's tragic.
49:23 You need to be going through drills things,
49:26 tornados could hit your church.
49:29 You know, something bad can happen.
49:30 But when people understand there's a plan.
49:33 That's a resource tool.
49:35 And so remember once again.
49:38 If stress is not reduced, they can go into shock.
49:41 Now, Autumn, told me her name
49:42 and she was answering questions.
49:44 Or I would have continued asking her other questions.
49:47 If she missed two out of three of my questions,
49:49 she's going into shock.
49:50 And then I'm gonna kick,
49:52 I'm gonna move into a medical mode.
49:54 I'm going to ask other helpers to come,
49:56 other ladies at this point.
49:58 You know, I'm going to signal them to come over.
50:00 They're gonna help lay Autumn down.
50:01 They're going to elevate her legs.
50:03 Very simple things that can help prevent her
50:05 from going into shock.
50:07 So we can deal with these things
50:08 quickly in a very orderly way.
50:11 Well, I mean this is,
50:13 you're talking about things that are not normal.
50:16 When I say not normal, let me use another phrase
50:19 and I think this is a good way to use it.
50:21 A new normal the church needs to have
50:23 There you go. There you go.
50:24 That we talked about that prior to the program,
50:25 because many of these things are not really addressed.
50:28 Yes.
50:29 It's almost a situation where the,
50:30 where the trauma happens with the perpetrators
50:33 present has taken.
50:35 Whatever he has come to take in
50:37 or whatever he has come to take.
50:38 And now, it's kind of a run for your life situation.
50:41 Yes, and the word you just used...
50:42 Let's just get out.
50:43 Normal is so important psychological first aid.
50:45 We're creating a new normal in the church setting,
50:48 so that, they see themselves as a growing vibrant church.
50:51 Doing ministries outreach service,
50:53 that's a part of the new normal.
50:55 You know, just to reaffirm, sorry,
50:57 I did mean to cut you but as you're saying,
51:00 you know, this new normal that as a person is
51:02 realizing their, their emotions
51:04 and everything then to say, what you're feeling is normal.
51:08 Not to help them to say,
51:09 "Oh, no, you're acting a little too much," you know.
51:12 Calm down, or stop doing or stop yelling.
51:15 Yeah.
51:16 Right because it exacerbates the situation
51:18 when they really going through the trauma.
51:19 This is the point that is excellent
51:21 she has brought out here.
51:23 What you are experiencing right now is very normal
51:27 for the situation you've just gone through.
51:29 When you keep using that word normal with them.
51:31 It's amazing how God has made us to be resilient.
51:35 If you've just experienced somebody dying,
51:37 a suicide, somebody is ready to commit suicide.
51:40 As a teenager,
51:41 we have many teenagers role-playing this.
51:43 What, when you're talking to this other teenager.
51:46 What you were experiencing,
51:47 what you have described to me is very normal
51:50 for what you have been through.
51:51 The quicker you can cause somebody to realize
51:54 this is a normal reaction to an abnormal situation
51:58 our stress begins going down.
51:59 Right, because in many cases people think
52:01 that the natural response would be.
52:05 "Boy, they just lost it."
52:07 And you should have seen it, these people just off the wall,
52:11 they started crying, they were just,
52:12 some are screaming,
52:13 some are running for their lives.
52:15 This place went crazy when in fact,
52:17 these are the traumatic responses
52:18 to traumatic situations.
52:20 Now, something else you did,
52:21 you have two books in front of you.
52:23 I'd like to take some focus on that one in English.
52:27 Do we have a graphic up of this?
52:29 Don't know if they found it.
52:31 We've shown it once before
52:33 but the amazing thing is this book
52:35 actually First Response.
52:37 They can see it there, is something that is dynamic
52:41 when it comes to church growth strategy.
52:44 Because in other words,
52:45 they learn a lot of these ministries
52:47 that we've been sharing today
52:48 how I can encourage them to that new normal.
52:51 How church can be fun
52:52 but the interesting thing is in Spanish.
52:54 Okay.
52:55 This book has outsold that one two times to one.
52:58 Wow!
52:59 Now, you can get these books through
53:00 Amazon digitally all the rest of it.
53:03 But the amazing thing is,
53:04 is we're trying to create resources to you
53:06 as a church member.
53:08 How you can truly begin to have fun
53:11 in church growth strategy.
53:13 Let your church grow.
53:15 Become the 20 percent that are growing.
53:18 And so, we'd like to guarantee an ACTS 911,
53:21 that every church who when we close will share
53:25 how you can become a partner or become a part of that.
53:27 But in other words, we want to guarantee
53:28 church growth to every church,
53:30 that becomes a part of ACTS 911.
53:31 Wow! Wow!
53:33 And how long have you roughly been in existence?
53:36 So, ACTS 911.
53:38 As a pastor ACTS 911 as two years.
53:42 And so GR3 ACTS World Relief all of that came out,
53:44 until we kept having more and more requests by pastors
53:47 and churches to say train us,
53:49 how to grow in the community?
53:51 In Peru many different countries they say,
53:53 "Please don't, don't do the medical part.
53:55 Just train us, we're church leaders,
53:57 we want our church to grow."
53:59 And so, we found that there was--
54:01 the Holy Spirit was drawing us
54:02 to develop this ministry ACTS 911.
54:04 So, we spent a lot of time now focusing on
54:07 just that ministry by experienced people
54:11 that can come in to be a train,
54:12 the trainer to your congregation,
54:13 a coach in helping you grow.
54:15 You know, I want to make the information available
54:17 to our audience, our viewers and our listeners
54:19 so that they could know.
54:20 This is a tremendous program.
54:22 I've learned a philosophy.
54:24 You learn more when you speak less.
54:26 So, I've spoken less today,
54:27 so I could glean quite a bit from this program.
54:30 Very, very well put together.
54:32 But not only in the sense of a wonderful idea.
54:35 But a strategy that's supported by the Bible.
54:38 These are the Acts that were working out
54:40 in the New Testament Church.
54:42 That's why they grew from the day of Pentecost
54:44 to 3000 then 5000 then the exponential growth
54:48 was something that they experienced.
54:49 And what we're hearing today,
54:51 Pastor David Canther and Autumn Canther
54:53 also saying that, this could be the experience
54:55 in your church, in your community,
54:58 so here's the information that you need
55:00 if you'd like to invite them.
55:02 ACTS 911 offers long term community building remedies
55:07 and include quick responding diagnosis,
55:09 practical knowledge, and resources for growth.
55:12 If you like to support this ministry,
55:14 you can do so by writing to ACTS 911,
55:19 600 Citrus Avenue, Ft. Pierce, Florida 34950.
55:24 That's ACTS 911, 600 Citrus Avenue,
55:28 Ft. Pierce, Florida 34950.
55:31 You can call 941-504-2324.
55:35 That's 941-504-2324.
55:39 You can also visit them online at acts911.org.
55:43 That's acts911.org.
55:48 Well, as you know our time comes and goes
55:50 so quickly, but I don't want you to leave
55:52 without this wonderful story of how the Lord works
55:55 through this ministry.
55:56 Autumn, tell us that story real briefly here.
55:59 The story what I remember
56:01 when I was little is there is a lady called Sandy,
56:04 and she was in the hospital but on her last,
56:07 you know, moment of life she had AIDS.
56:09 And so, she was you know,
56:11 just suffering from that and asking for prayer,
56:14 she was in the last moments.
56:17 So, we were able to sing and to pray with her.
56:20 And we prayed with her
56:21 just asking God to heal her with that child like faith.
56:25 I don't know how old I was, but just that moment
56:29 where we prayed with her,
56:30 she was able to actually come back to the church
56:32 and to testify that God had healed her in that moment.
56:36 So when we have that faith to,
56:38 you know, just pray over people and to say,
56:40 you know, this is not about me,
56:42 it's about God for him to be able to give that testimony
56:46 to encourage the church and to say,
56:48 "This is where God is working, it's inside of our church."
56:50 And she lead out in the AIDS ministry
56:52 after her healing.
56:53 Which she understands better than a normal individual.
56:56 Well, David, thank you for being here and,
56:58 Autumn, thank you for being here.
56:59 But just one more program note.
57:00 You can also become an active monthly supporter
57:03 and ambassador with this ministry ACTS 911,
57:07 by going to the website and financially monthly support
57:11 so that other people around the world can be blessed,
57:14 as well as in your local community.
57:16 Thank you so much for being here David,
57:18 Autumn thank you for being here.
57:20 And, friends, thank you for all that you do for this ministry.
57:22 Thank you continue praying for 3ABN
57:24 and one day your acts of kindness
57:27 will result in somebody being in the kingdom.
57:30 God bless you.


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