I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you for joining us
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as always and I have
Pastor CA Murray here.
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Usually you are in this
seat and I'm over there.
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Well, I was
trying to get to the seat
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but you never let me.
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Well, yeah, yeah. I know.
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Well, this seat
you got to work more
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because you got to
bring the program in and out.
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You are responsible for,
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you know, so I
usually when we are together
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I beat him in the seat.
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But anyway, we are glad
that you are here with us today
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and we are glad
that our guests are here.
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We have Dr. Yvonne
Lewis and son Jason Bradley.
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Jason, it's good to
have you here too today.
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Good to be here.
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And so we are doing,
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what we are
doing CA is kind of a,
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I think you would
call this is your life.
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You remember, some of
you're old enough to remember
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that program This Is Your Life?
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Now you remember that.
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You remember that.
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Yvonne was probably
on that event, you know.
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Oh, you know what.
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Now you are pushing that a bit.
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You may have found
frozen, who knows, I don't know.
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So, Jason, you probably
never heard of that program,
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have you, This is Your Life?
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No, that's way before my time.
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Okay. Well, in
reality it really was.
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Was, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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But we've been
taking some different ones
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and, Yvonne, you've helped me.
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We've interviewed
a few people already
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and we are trying to
get some of our workers here
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that's working
with us in the vineyard
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out on the frontlines
and maybe getting some things
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that from them that
you've never heard before.
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So today that's kind of, Yvonne,
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we have you on the hot seat.
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I know.
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And why did I bring CA Murray,
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asked Pastor Murray to be here.
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Do you have any idea?
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I do.
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Tell us why.
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Because it was through
Pastor Murray's ministry
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that I came back to the Lord.
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Okay.
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And so he knows
everything about you
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for the last how
many years do you,
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he says in his words
he's been doing what?
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I've been dragging
along for 30 years.
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Thirty years. That's terrible.
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Dragging around.
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You know, time gets
away, it was, it's 30 years.
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I know because I
was pregnant with Jason
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when I got re-baptized.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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He got baptized twice.
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He was there in water
when I baptized him in water
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and you got baptized again.
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So you've been
baptized three times.
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Yes. The third times a time.
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Okay.
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Have mercy.
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And, well, we're here
today because we want to go
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and find out some
things about Yvonne that we,
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maybe you don't know
and maybe we don't know.
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So we didn't plan it too much.
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We just said,
"Hey, this is kind of a,
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this is your life type program."
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So, Yvonne, we want to start out
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and we're gonna have
you sing in the little bit
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and we have a song picked out
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that you've already done here
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that we will hold that
off for just a little bit.
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We want to go back,
tell us a little bit about
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where you were born and raised
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and I know that I can't
ask her the dates and all that.
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As a woman you can't.
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She won't, she probably
wouldn't tell me anyway, right?
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Right. That's true.
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But tell me where
you were born and raised
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and little bit
about your family life?
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Well, I was born in
New York City in Harlem
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at Harlem
Hospital in New York City
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and I am a third generation
Seventh-day Adventist.
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Both sides of my family, my
grandparents were Adventist.
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In fact, my paternal
grandfather was a minister
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and he died when my
dad was three-years-old
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but he was from
the Virgin Islands,
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from Saint Thomas.
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And he passed away
when my dad was three.
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And then my
grandmother was a missionary
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and she was at
the Ephesus Church
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as a Bible instructor.
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And so and she has been,
she was just such a profound
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and she had a
profound impact on my life.
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So, so yeah, I was,
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I came from an
Adventist background.
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Siblings?
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One sister, my baby sister
who was nine years my junior.
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And her nickname was Binky
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and in fact, she was in
school with John Lomacang.
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She was, she and John
were in the same class.
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Okay, and you are saying what?
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So now I'm saying I'm really
telling my age now, all right.
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And so you are
very closer in age?
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Well, you are right.
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Dan, I need to say she passed,
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her grandmother was a legendary.
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And that we won't use that term
bible worker in New York City.
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Rosalyn Jones,
she worked with all,
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you talk with
the great evangelist
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E. E.
Clevelands, your G.H. Raineys
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all of the great evangelist,
she worked with them all.
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Yeah.
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She had a choir for
years at the Ephesus Church.
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And you mentioned
the name of Rosalyn Jones
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anywhere in New York City--
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really anywhere among
that age group of ministers
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and laypeople,
everybody knew Rosalyn Jones.
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I think they still have
pictures of her out front.
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I was one at the churches there
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and I saw
pictures of Rosalyn Jones,
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that's your grandmother, right?
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Yeah, that was my grandmother.
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So I guess she's
left her mark for sure.
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Oh, yeah.
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Now you talked about
Binky and you said she was.
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Tell us about Binky?
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In 2009 she had
a liver transplant
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and-- well, let me
go back a little bit.
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Binky and I when our mom died,
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I was 19 and Binky was nine
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and she was going on ten.
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And Binky and I
went different routes.
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Binky got
involved with drugs early,
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very early in her life
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and I went on to
I finished school
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and the music
business and all that.
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So we really, we
lived very different lives.
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Binky was very street
savvy and I really was naive
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and I was the kind of the book
worm and Binky was intelligent
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but she just
didn't go that route.
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So our lives went that
way but then she became ill
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and I lived in
Dallas and she decided
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to come to be with me
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and maybe I could help
her because at the time
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I was doing
alternative medicine.
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We will talk
more about that later.
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So she came there
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and I helped her by
the grace of God in her,
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when she came I didn't know
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but she had only been give
about six months when she came.
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And she was in
Dallas for few years
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and she had a liver
transplant on March 23 of 2009
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and the surgery
itself was successful
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but she never really
came out from the anesthesia.
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And May 9, she passed away.
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Wow. Okay.
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And I'm so grateful
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because the Lord
brought her back to Him.
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I have the assurance
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that my sister
is resting in Jesus.
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So I'm not,
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you know, when I
began to well up with tears,
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it's just because I miss her,
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but it's not because I
don't have the assurance
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that she is resting in Jesus.
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So I'm really thankful for that.
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And also for the mercy
of God that He allowed her,
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she was asleep but I
knew she could hear me.
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So it was kind of
like He was weaning me,
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giving me time to adjust
to not having her with me
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but yet she was
still, she was still there.
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Yeah.
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So it was, God is so merciful
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and He is so gentle with
the way He deals with us.
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Jason, what do you
remember about Aunt Binky?
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What sticks out in your mind?
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Oh, man, she was a lot of fun.
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Okay.
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But she cared
for so many people.
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You could go to her
house on given day and see
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what looked like
the whole neighborhood
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that she just took in.
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Okay.
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You know, she
really cared about kids.
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She was huge on
family, very family oriented.
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And she would give you
the shirt off her back.
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All right.
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I remember when
I was a kid though
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I used to look at her crazy
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because she seem, she
seemed like she was real stern.
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Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't really
liking her when I was young
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but then as I grew up I
just, I loved her so much.
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Yeah, all right.
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Now your dad he is right
here in Southern Illinois now.
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How did you get,
where did you get him from?
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He is. How did you get him here?
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Well, my dad had
been ill for a while
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and he is in a nursing home
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because he
requires 24 hour care.
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But my dad who has had a
few strokes and but he is--
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I bet he is watching today.
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We're gonna have to
say hello to him, right?
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We'll have to make
sure. Yes, yes for sure.
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Hi, Daddy, love you.
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Love you so much.
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I'm so happy he is here.
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You know, he is nearby.
He is in West Frankfort.
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We can home visit,
he is in West Frankfort.
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We go visit him
and show him love
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and every year we
give him a birthday party
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and, you know, everybody
are friends here come and--
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And we can tell his
age though he is a man.
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Now how old is he?
He is 86-years-old.
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Eighty six-years-old. Yeah.
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And he's had a
profound impact on,
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he was a principal
of an elementary school,
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Bethel Elementary
School in Brooklyn.
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And so many of his students
have reached out and they said,
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"Oh, please tell Mr.
Hodge, we said hello."
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John always reminds me that he--
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Pastor John
Lomacang? Pastor John Lomacang.
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He left his print on him.
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He did literally.
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He said, he is
responsible. John needed it.
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By the way if you are
watching, John, you need it.
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He said, he is responsible
for some of John's success.
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Yeah.
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Now tell me about Mr. Hodge?
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You know, it's interesting
how our lives woven into.
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He was-- when I was
at Bethel as associate
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and then interim
pastor he was there.
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And then later on he was
sent to the Amityville School,
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the Bethesda
School at Amityville
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and I was a pastor there.
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So I passed cross twice.
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Her dad is a unique personality.
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Okay.
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And that I mean, in everything
that would go with that,
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he is a unique, unique person.
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He is fun, he is quick minded,
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golden voice and in
his day excellent singer.
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Just a smooth kind of
Bing Crosby kind of thing.
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You know, just a
great, great singer.
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And he knew it.
He let you know that.
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He would.
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He let you know
he is a good singer.
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Oh, I'm a good singer. He
likes Frank Sinatra, right.
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He did. Yeah.
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He is so into that
kind of music, that style.
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Okay.
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Good principal, he
was a disciplinarian
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and if you got out of
line that's back in the days
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when you would tap
a child on the bottom,
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you know, he would do that.
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And so, our paths
crossed but he was always,
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you knew when Benito
Hodge was in the room
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you knew he was there.
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Okay. He wasn't in the corner.
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That's true.
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Yeah, you knew he
was there. That's true.
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He has a presence.
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Kind of a larger than life
kind of presence kind of a guy.
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Really neat person.
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Fun guy. You would be laughing.
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You know, even when we go
visit him now at advance stage
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and he had several strokes
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but he is, he is gonna
call with some zinger, some lion
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because that's
just the way he is.
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He does. He is a classic guy.
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I get to go
sometimes too and visit him
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and he is always in a
good mood and I can't imagine,
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you know, he is just always up.
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He is always for fun.
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I'll tell him, I say,
"Boy, you look good today."
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And he will say, "I
know that's true, you know."
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I mean, in smile but
it's almost mischievous
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his little smile
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that he loves to see
your response, you know.
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He does. And what a great guy.
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So you had, you
have a wonderful father.
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Now your mother died though
when you were much younger.
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Tell us about mom?
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I was 19-years-old and my mom,
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my mom gave me--
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I have my dad's temperament
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but I have my mom's,
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she was ambitions.
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I have to say
that my mom was very,
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she was a business woman.
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She was the controller of
the New York Urban League.
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And so she was a
professional woman
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and she was really impetus
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for my father going
back to school later in life
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and she encouraged him
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and helped to put
him through school
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and he went and got
his masters in education
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and his principal's
license and all that.
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So my mom was very
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and she was very
giving to people too,
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she would take people in
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and all of that
and funny and stern.
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My mom was really short
but you did not cross my mom.
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I mean, you
couldn't look at don't pow,
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don't roll those eyes, do
not, you can't, don't sit,
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do not talk bad, not.
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Same school as my dad.
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Same with my, same with my--
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Yeah. Same school.
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We have a picture of her mom.
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And, Danny, one of the thing
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when you notice about
the women in this family,
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if you look at her
grandmother Rosalyn Jones,
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you look at
Yvonne's mother and Yvonne,
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the gene pool
are so strong, exact,
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just about the same height,
same skin tone, same hair,
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same walk, same talk,
same laugh, same everything.
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They are just, you
could say this is that,
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that's her mother,
that's her daughter,
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that's, you can.
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You could just.
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Cookie cutters.
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You knew her grandmother
at this age it's Yvonne.
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There is no difference.
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You know, her hair
color is different,
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you cut a little bit
shorter but just the same.
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Okay.
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Well, that's a compliment.
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Thank you. My
momma was just lovely.
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So now your mother
died when you were what age?
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Nineteen. Nineteen.
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Yeah. And what she died from?
00:14:02.64\00:14:03.97
She had Sarcoidosis
00:14:04.01\00:14:05.67
which affects
blacks more than whites,
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women more than men
and it's kind of an immune,
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kind of an autoimmune disease.
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And she had it in her lungs
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and so she had an
oxygen tank at home
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and I remember,
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I was at Oakwood
the year she died
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and I came home for
Thanksgiving vacation
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and my mom
called me to her bedside
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and she said, "I'm not gonna,
I'm gonna go to the hospital,
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I'm not gonna be coming back.
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And I want you to promise me
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that you will take
care of your sister
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and that you will
meet me one day in heaven."
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And I thought, you
know, mom is not gonna die.
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Because my mom
always had all these--
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She's pretty young.
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She was 40-years-old.
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Forty, wow.
00:14:54.72\00:14:56.06
And just she was beautiful.
00:14:56.09\00:14:58.49
And I just felt like,
my mom is not gonna die.
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You know, you don't
think your mother is gonna die
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but I did make her the promise
00:15:04.23\00:15:06.53
that I would
look out for my sister
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and I know that one day I
will be able to see my mom,
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introduce my children to my
mom who she would just adore.
00:15:12.81\00:15:17.48
And be with my mom
and my sister forever.
00:15:17.51\00:15:20.48
So, yeah, but my mom
was, she died at 40-years-old.
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Great.
00:15:24.29\00:15:25.62
Now you are, again
we can't give your age
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but you were old enough,
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you were old enough that when--
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You're dancing around with that.
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Were you old enough
to, when you were young
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like they had the
white drinking fountain,
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they had the
black drinking fountain,
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do you remember that?
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I do.
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And tell us about your mother's
00:15:42.90\00:15:44.91
able to go maybe
cross lines sometimes.
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Well,
00:15:48.58\00:15:50.71
my mom was very fair
skin, my dad is brown skin.
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So we had moved to Huntsville,
Alabama to go to Oakwood
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for my dad to go back to Oakwood
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and I'll never forget this.
00:16:01.36\00:16:05.06
My mom was able to
go into restaurants
00:16:05.09\00:16:08.13
because she could pass
for white, so she could go in,
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get the food and
bring it out to us to eat.
00:16:11.67\00:16:15.94
I remember when I
lived in Huntsville,
00:16:15.97\00:16:20.14
they had white and
black colored that they had,
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that's what they had there,
00:16:23.28\00:16:24.98
color and white
drinking fountains.
00:16:25.01\00:16:27.18
And the white
one was way up here
00:16:27.22\00:16:28.95
and the color one was
really low to the ground
00:16:28.98\00:16:31.62
and I thought I'm
drinking out the white one.
00:16:31.65\00:16:35.36
Now how rebellious was that.
00:16:35.39\00:16:36.86
You know, I
wasn't, I really wasn't--
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I'm thinking I'm from New York.
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I'm not from here
00:16:40.43\00:16:41.90
and I had no
sense of eminent danger
00:16:41.93\00:16:45.13
like something
could have happened to me
00:16:45.17\00:16:46.70
and I just went
on without problem.
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It wasn't as
prominent in New York?
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Oh, no.
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They didn't have
separate drinking fountains
00:16:51.11\00:16:52.44
the things like
that in New York.
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Okay. You are in south now?
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I was in the south.
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I was 10-years-old.
00:16:56.58\00:16:57.91
I lived in the
south from 10 to 13,
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I was turning 13
00:17:01.32\00:17:03.69
because my dad
went back to Oakwood.
00:17:03.72\00:17:05.29
So, yeah, I
thought I'm from New York,
00:17:05.32\00:17:08.96
I'm just gonna do
what I want to do.
00:17:08.99\00:17:10.86
But I'm like, I don't even,
00:17:10.89\00:17:12.23
I wasn't thinking about anybody
00:17:12.26\00:17:13.60
snatching me up or
anything like that.
00:17:13.63\00:17:15.70
But yeah, it was
an interesting time
00:17:15.73\00:17:19.17
but being at Oakwood,
00:17:19.20\00:17:21.77
you didn't feel
the segregation as much
00:17:21.80\00:17:23.84
because it was an
all black environment.
00:17:23.87\00:17:25.77
When you went
into the town you did.
00:17:25.81\00:17:27.74
But at Oakwood you didn't.
00:17:27.78\00:17:29.74
So it was very interesting.
00:17:29.78\00:17:31.98
And from Oakwood,
we went to Pine Forge
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and my dad was the
dean of boys there.
00:17:33.95\00:17:36.95
And so I also was at Pine Forge
alumna and I love Pine Forge,
00:17:36.99\00:17:43.22
I love my fellow
students from there
00:17:43.26\00:17:45.66
and I have to give a shout out
00:17:45.69\00:17:47.40
to all those who
went to Pine Forge too.
00:17:47.43\00:17:48.86
Okay.
00:17:48.90\00:17:50.23
So we got to hear
about your sister,
00:17:50.27\00:17:52.00
your mom and
dad, your grandparents
00:17:52.03\00:17:54.57
and now we want
to hear from Jason.
00:17:54.60\00:17:56.94
Jay, tell us
about mom growing up.
00:17:56.97\00:17:59.47
Now, mom, we
are gonna talk about
00:17:59.51\00:18:01.18
her being in the music business
00:18:01.21\00:18:02.58
but I'm not sure when
some of your early memories
00:18:02.61\00:18:05.58
of mom what would that be?
00:18:05.61\00:18:08.68
Well, she was always,
you have to go to church,
00:18:08.72\00:18:11.69
you have to go to church.
00:18:11.72\00:18:13.32
I remember that. Okay.
00:18:13.36\00:18:14.89
She was a wonderful
mother and I have no complaints.
00:18:14.92\00:18:18.69
My childhood was great.
00:18:18.73\00:18:20.06
Now she had already come
back to the Lord as you said,
00:18:20.10\00:18:22.40
baptize when you
were in a womb yet, right?
00:18:22.43\00:18:24.53
Yes.
00:18:24.57\00:18:25.90
So you're growing up, now
you got a mom who is very,
00:18:25.93\00:18:29.30
very spiritual
00:18:29.34\00:18:30.84
but she is wanting you to
go to church all the time.
00:18:30.87\00:18:32.94
So by looking at him,
00:18:32.97\00:18:34.91
I would just guess
Jason did everything
00:18:34.94\00:18:37.08
he was ever asked to do.
00:18:37.11\00:18:38.68
Was a perfect
child went over Sabbath
00:18:38.71\00:18:41.65
and never ever
drifted away, how am I going?
00:18:41.68\00:18:44.82
How am I doing?
00:18:44.85\00:18:46.19
This way I have to be honest.
00:18:49.46\00:18:52.76
I did drift away
but as a kid I mean,
00:18:52.79\00:18:58.93
mom took excellent care of me.
00:18:58.97\00:19:00.60
She worked hard, she was doing,
00:19:00.64\00:19:03.57
she was still singing
jingles and stuff in the city.
00:19:03.61\00:19:06.81
But as I got older
00:19:06.84\00:19:08.18
and stepped
away from the church,
00:19:08.21\00:19:09.81
I was probably about 14,
00:19:09.84\00:19:11.98
I started smoking marijuana
00:19:12.01\00:19:13.92
and drinking and
partying and stuff.
00:19:13.95\00:19:16.28
Now where was this?
00:19:16.32\00:19:17.65
This was in Texas. Texas.
00:19:17.69\00:19:19.02
This was in,
yeah, Arlington, Texas.
00:19:19.05\00:19:20.39
All right.
00:19:20.42\00:19:21.76
And so she was
going off to school.
00:19:21.79\00:19:25.43
She was already studying
massage therapy at the time.
00:19:25.46\00:19:29.36
She's been in school a lot.
00:19:29.40\00:19:32.20
She goes to
school. She is a lifer.
00:19:32.23\00:19:33.57
Yeah. We call that a lifer.
00:19:33.60\00:19:35.07
You might have a
class after this.
00:19:35.10\00:19:36.47
Yeah.
00:19:36.50\00:19:38.54
She goes, she
went to school a lot.
00:19:38.57\00:19:40.38
So while she was doing that,
00:19:40.41\00:19:41.74
I was doing all
the wrong things.
00:19:41.78\00:19:45.78
And so I got involved
in the wrong lifestyle.
00:19:45.81\00:19:50.75
And I think at that time,
00:19:50.79\00:19:52.19
I just didn't feel
like church applied to me.
00:19:52.22\00:19:55.06
I didn't feel like
they were speaking to me
00:19:55.09\00:19:57.99
and I felt like they
were talking to my mom
00:19:58.03\00:20:00.20
and my grandparents and,
you know, that generation.
00:20:00.23\00:20:03.13
But going through all that
00:20:03.16\00:20:08.14
and later on some
other experiences in life
00:20:08.17\00:20:12.67
ilike when my
appendix raptured inside of me.
00:20:12.71\00:20:14.88
You know, sometimes you
get through a circumstance
00:20:14.91\00:20:18.68
and, you know,
like thank You God.
00:20:18.71\00:20:21.12
And you thank the Lord
00:20:21.15\00:20:23.08
but then you're
right back out there doing
00:20:23.12\00:20:24.75
what you were doing before.
00:20:24.79\00:20:27.22
So I ended up selling
drugs and things of that nature
00:20:27.26\00:20:31.83
and then I got arrested.
00:20:31.86\00:20:33.66
And when I got arrested
00:20:33.70\00:20:37.60
I was like, you know what,
00:20:37.63\00:20:39.57
"God, if you get
me out of this one,
00:20:39.60\00:20:42.17
I am done. I am done."
00:20:42.20\00:20:45.21
So I got out of that one.
00:20:45.24\00:20:47.24
I still wasn't going to church
00:20:47.28\00:20:48.84
and all of that
but I left it alone.
00:20:48.88\00:20:52.01
I haven't touched
drugs and well say,
00:20:52.05\00:20:54.65
I'll be 30 probably
00:20:54.68\00:20:56.55
like ten, nine, ten years.
00:20:56.58\00:20:58.09
Oh, that's great.
00:20:58.12\00:20:59.72
Somewhere around there. Yeah.
00:20:59.75\00:21:01.62
You know, I got to
tell you a story, Danny,
00:21:01.66\00:21:02.99
because once I baptized Yvonne
00:21:03.02\00:21:05.19
and we did a show on
Trinity Broadcasting together.
00:21:05.23\00:21:08.13
We co-hosted a show
then she moves away to Texas,
00:21:08.16\00:21:10.20
but I always kept in touch.
00:21:10.23\00:21:11.57
And I was in Texas
every now and again,
00:21:11.60\00:21:12.93
for several years I
always check up with her.
00:21:12.97\00:21:15.30
And I remember when
Jason was in high school
00:21:15.34\00:21:17.21
because she put
him in church school
00:21:17.24\00:21:19.27
and Jason says, "I
want to go to public school.
00:21:19.31\00:21:21.18
I want to go to public school."
00:21:21.21\00:21:22.54
And she said, "Okay, you know,
00:21:22.58\00:21:23.91
I'm gonna let you
go to public school."
00:21:23.95\00:21:25.41
But the first time you call
00:21:25.45\00:21:27.52
and say you want to do
something on Friday night,
00:21:27.55\00:21:29.82
you are back in church school.
00:21:29.85\00:21:31.69
So I didn't talk with
her for about a month.
00:21:31.72\00:21:33.25
I said, Yvonne,
how you're doing?
00:21:33.29\00:21:34.66
She says, "Jason is
back in church school."
00:21:34.69\00:21:38.09
I got yanked out of--
00:21:38.13\00:21:39.66
He didn't go two weeks,
how can I think of a month.
00:21:39.69\00:21:41.03
But she's saying, he
is back in church school.
00:21:41.06\00:21:42.40
I got yanked so fast.
00:21:42.43\00:21:43.77
Yeah.
00:21:43.80\00:21:45.13
And it was because I
wanted to go to the dance.
00:21:45.17\00:21:46.90
I wanted to go
to homecoming dance.
00:21:46.94\00:21:49.07
She was like, no, you
are going back to back.
00:21:49.10\00:21:50.97
No, back, you're
going to the church school.
00:21:51.01\00:21:53.78
That's true.
That's true. That's true.
00:21:53.81\00:21:56.21
So some of that from your mother
00:21:56.24\00:21:57.71
came on down to
you, it sound like.
00:21:57.75\00:21:59.45
I think it did. Right.
00:21:59.48\00:22:00.82
Good.
00:22:00.85\00:22:02.18
This is the way it
is and no back talk
00:22:02.22\00:22:04.79
and I'm gonna do
what's best for you.
00:22:04.82\00:22:07.02
And, you know, which I'm glad.
00:22:07.06\00:22:08.49
We grew up in generations.
00:22:08.52\00:22:10.49
My dad was that way and my mom.
00:22:10.53\00:22:12.09
I mean, they are
gonna do what's best for you
00:22:12.13\00:22:14.30
no matter how
miserable you were, all right.
00:22:14.33\00:22:17.17
My dad would say, I don't
care how bad this hurt you,
00:22:17.20\00:22:19.93
I'm gonna do it for your benefit
00:22:19.97\00:22:21.74
and you get the
whipping, you know.
00:22:21.77\00:22:23.10
And now I go back and
say, "Praise the Lord."
00:22:23.14\00:22:25.24
Yes.
00:22:25.27\00:22:26.61
You know, she does
the period the end thing.
00:22:26.64\00:22:28.44
Oh, yeah.
00:22:28.48\00:22:29.81
Yeah, tell us that when
you were trying to sass.
00:22:29.84\00:22:32.31
Yeah, her word is final.
00:22:32.35\00:22:35.32
Period the end.
00:22:35.35\00:22:36.72
So I go.
00:22:36.75\00:22:38.09
I mean, don't talk back.
00:22:38.12\00:22:40.39
Yeah, I have heard
that a few times myself.
00:22:40.42\00:22:42.56
Yeah, I surely have.
00:22:42.59\00:22:43.93
Period the end, this is the way.
00:22:43.96\00:22:45.96
Would you sing today,
period, no, period the end?
00:22:45.99\00:22:48.66
That mean, don't try to get me.
00:22:48.70\00:22:50.43
I've got a throat
problem or whatever.
00:22:50.47\00:22:52.53
And if you say, well, can you?
00:22:52.57\00:22:53.90
No, period the end.
00:22:53.94\00:22:55.27
So we all know and okay,
she is not singing today,
00:22:55.30\00:22:58.07
you know.
00:22:58.11\00:22:59.44
Speaking of singing,
now, we've heard from Jason
00:22:59.47\00:23:02.81
you're great mom,
this is, you're Christian
00:23:02.84\00:23:04.61
but what happened to you?
00:23:04.65\00:23:06.61
You have two Christian parents,
00:23:06.65\00:23:09.38
you going to Oakwood,
00:23:09.42\00:23:10.82
you know, you,
00:23:10.85\00:23:12.59
what did you take in Oakwood?
00:23:12.62\00:23:14.56
I was a psychology major,
social work, sociology miner.
00:23:14.59\00:23:19.96
And then after my mom died,
00:23:20.00\00:23:23.57
I never went back to Oakwood
00:23:23.60\00:23:25.30
after that Thanksgiving break
00:23:25.33\00:23:27.24
when my mom passed away
00:23:27.27\00:23:29.50
on December 6 of 1969.
00:23:29.54\00:23:31.71
So I never went back to Oakwood,
00:23:31.74\00:23:33.98
but I went to Hofstra University
00:23:34.01\00:23:35.71
and I finished from Hofstra
00:23:35.74\00:23:37.28
and then I went
to Adelphi University
00:23:37.31\00:23:39.58
and got a
master's in social work.
00:23:39.61\00:23:41.22
Okay, you got a
master's in social work.
00:23:41.25\00:23:43.42
So did you plan on that
being, why did you do that
00:23:43.45\00:23:47.12
because it seem
like did you do it,
00:23:47.16\00:23:49.09
did you get into
the field very long?
00:23:49.12\00:23:50.73
No.
00:23:50.76\00:23:52.09
it's so funny
00:23:52.13\00:23:53.46
because right after I
finished the master's degree,
00:23:53.50\00:23:56.06
I started working in the field
00:23:56.10\00:23:58.53
and it was just like,
00:23:58.57\00:23:59.90
okay, I'm not, it
wasn't fulfilling for me.
00:23:59.93\00:24:02.17
At the time I was
pregnant with Mark my older son.
00:24:02.20\00:24:05.57
And I was of course
married, pregnant but I should,
00:24:05.61\00:24:09.18
I shouldn't leave that part out.
00:24:09.21\00:24:10.55
Sure.
00:24:10.58\00:24:14.12
And I started practicing
social work and I thought,
00:24:14.15\00:24:16.48
I really liked my clients
00:24:16.52\00:24:17.85
but I just
didn't like the people
00:24:17.89\00:24:19.22
I was working with really.
00:24:19.25\00:24:20.59
And long story short,
while I was doing that,
00:24:20.62\00:24:24.69
I was also singing in
this other little group
00:24:24.73\00:24:26.83
that we just
practiced and sang in basements.
00:24:26.86\00:24:29.10
You know, I practiced in
the basement all the time.
00:24:29.13\00:24:31.60
And but the engineer,
00:24:31.63\00:24:34.30
our manager was also an engineer
00:24:34.34\00:24:36.47
and he worked in New York City.
00:24:36.50\00:24:38.51
And I had said to him,
00:24:38.54\00:24:40.71
I would love to
do background vocal.
00:24:40.74\00:24:42.61
So I kind of want to do
some, you know, oohs and aahs,
00:24:42.64\00:24:45.71
I listen to that in the
radio, I figure I could do that.
00:24:45.75\00:24:48.32
Okay. So...
00:24:48.35\00:24:49.68
And you were good
with parts already.
00:24:49.72\00:24:51.05
You heard parts
and could sing, right?
00:24:51.09\00:24:53.66
Because I grew up around music.
00:24:53.69\00:24:55.56
Your mom and dad.
00:24:55.59\00:24:56.93
My mom and dad
and my grandmother
00:24:56.96\00:24:59.36
and my paternal
grandmother sang too.
00:24:59.39\00:25:01.70
So I was surrounded
and my uncle Howard Hodge
00:25:01.73\00:25:04.33
who was an amazing
musician, amazing arranger.
00:25:04.37\00:25:08.90
He arranged for people
like Helen Reddy, Tom Jones,
00:25:08.94\00:25:12.04
Katharine Hepburn, I
mean, he was tremendous
00:25:12.07\00:25:15.61
and he was murdered.
00:25:15.64\00:25:17.15
But that's another story.
00:25:17.18\00:25:18.51
Why didn't you
pass that down to me?
00:25:18.55\00:25:19.98
Oh, no.
00:25:20.02\00:25:21.35
I wish I could now.
00:25:21.38\00:25:22.82
You were stingy with that.
00:25:22.85\00:25:25.55
You don't want to pass
that musical gene down.
00:25:25.59\00:25:28.22
But you've learned
to play the piano now.
00:25:28.26\00:25:29.82
That is true.
00:25:29.86\00:25:31.19
Well, yeah,
taking piano lessons,
00:25:31.23\00:25:32.56
you're never too old.
00:25:32.59\00:25:33.93
Never. All right.
00:25:33.96\00:25:35.30
Okay.
00:25:35.33\00:25:36.67
So you got a chance to do,
00:25:36.70\00:25:38.03
is jingle the
first thing you did.
00:25:38.07\00:25:39.40
When you say jingle, what do
you mean jingle first of all?
00:25:39.43\00:25:41.20
Commercials.
00:25:41.24\00:25:42.57
Commercials.
00:25:42.60\00:25:43.94
Jingles, singing
jingles is the top level
00:25:43.97\00:25:46.91
of studio
singing that you can do.
00:25:46.94\00:25:49.68
I didn't start
out doing jingles.
00:25:49.71\00:25:51.35
I started out singing background
00:25:51.38\00:25:52.95
on Peoples Records.
00:25:52.98\00:25:54.32
Okay.
00:25:54.35\00:25:55.68
So but I started
singing when I started,
00:25:55.72\00:25:57.82
I was singing on
some big artist names,
00:25:57.85\00:26:02.89
some big name artist.
00:26:02.92\00:26:04.36
Like?
00:26:04.39\00:26:06.43
Wow.
00:26:06.46\00:26:07.80
When I first started,
00:26:07.83\00:26:09.16
I think I did
Roberta Flack early on.
00:26:09.20\00:26:11.60
Who did Charlie?
00:26:14.04\00:26:15.60
Did I do?
00:26:15.64\00:26:16.97
Well, I'm trying to remember.
00:26:17.01\00:26:18.34
See you're
jogging my memory here.
00:26:18.37\00:26:19.71
That's all right.
00:26:19.74\00:26:21.08
This is your life and
that's what this is about,
00:26:21.11\00:26:22.58
but you did a number of folk.
00:26:22.61\00:26:24.71
I did. Quincy Jones, I
did Roberta Flack, I did...
00:26:24.75\00:26:28.62
who else did I sing on?
00:26:31.69\00:26:33.02
Of course Luther
Vandross, Whitney Houston.
00:26:33.05\00:26:34.89
Just a lot of different--
00:26:34.92\00:26:36.26
So you just said that chorus
Luther Vandross and chorus,
00:26:36.29\00:26:39.69
you know, Whitney Houston,
00:26:39.73\00:26:42.43
those were just
some of those that you.
00:26:42.46\00:26:44.30
You can make a shackle
or two at that industry.
00:26:44.33\00:26:46.87
You can live quite well.
00:26:46.90\00:26:48.24
Oh, yeah.
00:26:48.27\00:26:49.60
Well, then when she
moved into the jingle arena
00:26:49.64\00:26:51.31
that's when
really make the money
00:26:51.34\00:26:53.41
because you make residuals.
00:26:53.44\00:26:54.78
Yeah.
00:26:54.81\00:26:56.14
So where as when
you are doing sessions
00:26:56.18\00:26:58.61
you get booked like
from 12 to 4, from 12 to 8
00:26:58.65\00:27:01.98
or for 10 to 4
something like that.
00:27:02.02\00:27:05.35
With the jingle you
are in and out in an hour.
00:27:05.39\00:27:08.69
So you go in,
you read the music,
00:27:08.72\00:27:13.26
they tell you how they want it.
00:27:13.29\00:27:14.83
They tell you how they
want you to interpret it
00:27:14.86\00:27:17.50
and you give them
that and you are gone.
00:27:17.53\00:27:20.24
It's just like,
it's a dream, it's like--
00:27:20.27\00:27:22.04
Okay, Folgers
Coffee, tell us about that?
00:27:22.07\00:27:25.01
Folgers Coffee
00:27:25.04\00:27:26.54
was an amazingly
lucrative campaign.
00:27:26.57\00:27:30.55
You can either do one
spot or you get the campaign.
00:27:33.01\00:27:36.08
The campaign is every spot
00:27:36.12\00:27:38.32
within that a
certain amount of time.
00:27:38.35\00:27:41.42
If that producer
does ten different spots,
00:27:41.46\00:27:44.19
you got that campaign
00:27:44.23\00:27:45.56
you are on ten different jingles
00:27:45.59\00:27:47.53
and you get paid for every time,
00:27:47.56\00:27:51.23
every time it plays, you know--
00:27:51.27\00:27:52.60
Radio or television.
00:27:52.63\00:27:53.97
Radio and television. Wow.
00:27:54.00\00:27:55.34
So I was a part of--
00:27:55.37\00:27:56.71
Any where in
America or around the world?
00:27:56.74\00:27:58.07
Screen Actors Guild and AFTRA,
00:27:58.11\00:27:59.91
American Federation of
Television and Radio Artists.
00:27:59.94\00:28:01.78
Okay.
00:28:01.81\00:28:03.14
So, you know, I get
pensions from both of them
00:28:03.18\00:28:07.22
because I always--
00:28:07.25\00:28:08.58
Even today? Even today.
00:28:08.62\00:28:09.95
Praise the Lord. Wow.
00:28:09.98\00:28:11.32
That's amazing.
00:28:11.35\00:28:12.69
Jason is smiling.
00:28:12.72\00:28:14.32
Are those handed
on down, you know?
00:28:14.36\00:28:16.32
Yeah. I will
negotiate after this.
00:28:16.36\00:28:19.26
I mean she got two,
she probably only needs one
00:28:22.06\00:28:25.03
you should maybe
get the other, you know.
00:28:25.07\00:28:26.80
You taught me to
share when I was a kid.
00:28:26.84\00:28:28.40
I did.
00:28:28.44\00:28:29.77
I did.
00:28:29.80\00:28:31.14
And I'm expecting you
to do that as I get older.
00:28:31.17\00:28:34.08
Indeed, praise the Lord.
00:28:34.11\00:28:36.85
You know, it's a
marvelous world though, Danny.
00:28:36.88\00:28:39.35
I went on a couple
because that world interested me
00:28:39.38\00:28:42.78
I think I went
with you to do M&Ms
00:28:42.82\00:28:45.39
and we were in, went in evening
we were in maybe 7 out by 8:30
00:28:45.42\00:28:49.76
and you are done.
00:28:49.79\00:28:51.13
And every time that thing
runs a check comes, you know.
00:28:51.16\00:28:54.16
So it is a happy time
00:28:54.20\00:28:58.73
But you know, in all seriousness
00:28:58.77\00:29:02.57
it is fantasy like in terms
00:29:02.60\00:29:05.31
of the amount of
money that you make
00:29:05.34\00:29:07.68
but I would not
trade what I have,
00:29:07.71\00:29:10.68
what I had then
with what I have now
00:29:10.71\00:29:13.01
I would not trade what
I have now for anything.
00:29:13.05\00:29:16.18
For I'm not making of course
the money that I was making
00:29:16.22\00:29:19.12
but the fulfillment of knowing
00:29:19.15\00:29:22.52
that I can use
what God has given me
00:29:22.56\00:29:25.46
to bring others to Him
00:29:25.49\00:29:28.86
or to worship Him or to involve
people in worshiping God.
00:29:28.90\00:29:32.83
To me there is nothing
more fulfilling than that.
00:29:32.87\00:29:35.90
So, yeah, I made a lot of
money and I live the life,
00:29:35.94\00:29:39.44
I did and it was
the best of both worlds
00:29:39.47\00:29:41.54
because I made alot of
money but I was anonymous.
00:29:41.58\00:29:44.65
Nobody knew who I was,
00:29:44.68\00:29:46.01
so I didn't have to live my life
00:29:46.05\00:29:47.75
like Luther
can't go to the store
00:29:47.78\00:29:50.45
because he would
get mobbed by people.
00:29:50.49\00:29:52.49
You know as he is
going to the store or Whitney
00:29:52.52\00:29:54.09
they couldn't go to the store.
00:29:54.12\00:29:55.69
I could do
whatever I wanted to do
00:29:55.72\00:29:57.66
because nobody knew who I was.
00:29:57.69\00:30:00.53
They don't put the faces
with the voice that you hear.
00:30:00.56\00:30:02.36
No. Right.
00:30:02.40\00:30:04.23
Some of the commercials you did,
00:30:04.27\00:30:06.20
a few of the others we
might know like Burger King.
00:30:06.23\00:30:08.74
Burger King,
Charmin bathroom tissue,
00:30:08.77\00:30:10.74
Kerusso.
00:30:10.77\00:30:12.11
Kerusso, yeah, I was
definitely on that one.
00:30:12.14\00:30:15.01
Oh, man, Pizza Hut.
You were on Sesame Street.
00:30:15.04\00:30:18.01
Yeah, I was on
Sesame Street, yeah.
00:30:18.05\00:30:20.58
Well, and you did
Saturday Night Live too.
00:30:20.62\00:30:22.72
All right, things like that.
00:30:22.75\00:30:24.09
I did with Peter Tosh
and Mick Jagger and...
00:30:24.12\00:30:27.29
Yeah, as I look over
my life, I'm so grateful.
00:30:27.32\00:30:32.53
I'm grateful that
the Lord allowed me
00:30:32.56\00:30:35.16
to do some of the
things that I've done
00:30:35.20\00:30:38.37
but it was all part of the plan.
00:30:38.40\00:30:42.20
He didn't let me get too far out
00:30:42.24\00:30:44.01
before He wheeled me back in
00:30:44.04\00:30:46.27
and I'm just so
grateful to Him for that.
00:30:46.31\00:30:48.21
Okay, so you did the
George Jefferson thing,
00:30:48.24\00:30:51.35
you moving on up
on the east side.
00:30:51.38\00:30:53.15
I did live on
east side literally.
00:30:53.18\00:30:55.42
Literally on east side.
00:30:55.45\00:30:57.19
And up and up to the top,
00:30:57.22\00:30:59.32
you are up in one
of the big high rise.
00:30:59.35\00:31:02.56
I think it's like
on the fifth floor
00:31:02.59\00:31:04.06
so being in the
high rise though.
00:31:04.09\00:31:05.79
Yeah, on the east side.
00:31:05.83\00:31:07.16
So you are moving on up.
00:31:07.20\00:31:08.73
I was moving on
up. You did move on up.
00:31:08.76\00:31:10.33
On the east side.
00:31:10.37\00:31:11.70
Did you have like to the
point you had the nanny's
00:31:11.73\00:31:13.47
and all that kind of stuff?
00:31:13.50\00:31:14.84
I did. I had
live in, live in hell.
00:31:14.87\00:31:16.20
What, you did all that?
00:31:16.24\00:31:17.57
Yeah, because my
schedule was so unpredictable.
00:31:17.61\00:31:21.41
I could get called for a 12 AM
00:31:21.44\00:31:24.31
session and that
was, that was grueling,
00:31:24.35\00:31:27.38
but you have to be ready to go,
00:31:27.42\00:31:29.02
so I needed someone to be there
with my kids when I went out.
00:31:29.05\00:31:33.05
And so--
00:31:33.09\00:31:34.42
You and someone else
00:31:34.46\00:31:35.79
now well known in
the Adventist church
00:31:35.82\00:31:37.16
you worked with.
00:31:37.19\00:31:38.53
Tell us who she is?
Yolanda, Yolanda Palmer.
00:31:38.56\00:31:41.50
Oh, yeah.
00:31:41.53\00:31:42.86
Yolanda and I have just--
00:31:42.90\00:31:45.50
we've been
together since the '70s
00:31:45.53\00:31:48.57
and that's when we
were doing jingles and.
00:31:48.60\00:31:52.61
Well, I started
doing jingles in the '80s.
00:31:52.64\00:31:54.61
Actually we were
doing sessions together
00:31:54.64\00:31:56.61
and then I started
doing the jingles in the '80s.
00:31:56.64\00:31:59.71
She said the benefit
of not going out in public
00:31:59.75\00:32:02.72
and being recognized so much
00:32:02.75\00:32:06.12
I know that when I went
to Whitney Houston's funeralz
00:32:06.15\00:32:08.62
with Yvonne
00:32:08.66\00:32:09.99
and it seemed like everybody
there in the business knew her
00:32:10.03\00:32:12.69
and was talking
to her and Yvonne,
00:32:12.73\00:32:14.16
where have you
been and all of this.
00:32:14.20\00:32:15.53
So in the industry
she is very well known.
00:32:15.56\00:32:17.80
They know her.
00:32:17.83\00:32:19.17
People know who she is
00:32:19.20\00:32:20.64
but some members
like Southern Illinois
00:32:20.67\00:32:22.40
what are you doing there?
00:32:22.44\00:32:23.77
What?
00:32:23.81\00:32:25.14
Chicago?
00:32:25.17\00:32:26.51
No, Southern Illinois.
00:32:26.54\00:32:27.88
Springfield?
00:32:27.91\00:32:29.24
That's as far south
as they think we go,
00:32:29.28\00:32:30.61
we're good 175 miles
south of Springfield but there,
00:32:30.65\00:32:33.92
you know, what
are you doing there?
00:32:33.95\00:32:35.28
So it was people kind of imagine
00:32:35.32\00:32:37.65
you been out of the city,
00:32:37.69\00:32:39.02
you are New York to
Dallas then coming to here.
00:32:39.05\00:32:41.42
But what brought you of course
00:32:41.46\00:32:43.22
was been manager of
Dare to Dream Network
00:32:43.26\00:32:46.80
and actually, you
know, we can say founder,
00:32:46.83\00:32:49.06
co-founder whatever
you want to call it,
00:32:49.10\00:32:50.83
but coming here a
dream that we all had
00:32:50.87\00:32:53.94
that literally--
00:32:53.97\00:32:56.30
in fact, just tell us we
got to get a little bit more,
00:32:56.34\00:32:58.24
we got some time.
00:32:58.27\00:32:59.61
You went into, you did
your master's in social, right?
00:32:59.64\00:33:03.68
Social work.
00:33:03.71\00:33:05.05
But then that Jason says
you were in school a long time.
00:33:05.08\00:33:08.05
Yeah.
00:33:08.08\00:33:09.42
You may have a class
after this he is saying
00:33:09.45\00:33:11.55
but something there is
probably something going on
00:33:11.59\00:33:14.52
she is taking class.
00:33:14.56\00:33:15.92
But you got into
alternative medicine.
00:33:15.96\00:33:17.33
I did.
00:33:17.36\00:33:18.69
Let's talk about that for a bit?
00:33:18.73\00:33:20.06
Wow.
00:33:20.10\00:33:21.43
Well, in the jingle
business you have a lot of time
00:33:21.46\00:33:24.27
on your hands because,
00:33:24.30\00:33:25.63
you know, you go
in you do a session--
00:33:25.67\00:33:27.00
After you singing and
then you get your check
00:33:27.04\00:33:28.44
and you go deposit it in a bank
00:33:28.47\00:33:30.61
then you got lot
of time on your hands.
00:33:30.64\00:33:31.97
You do.
00:33:32.01\00:33:33.34
And you get your
checks through the mail.
00:33:33.38\00:33:35.48
So we call that mailbox money.
00:33:35.51\00:33:37.65
So you just go to email box
00:33:37.68\00:33:39.01
and you have
maybe five or ten checks
00:33:39.05\00:33:40.65
and they were sizable
00:33:40.68\00:33:42.02
and you just put
them in the bank.
00:33:42.05\00:33:43.39
It was really, it was
really very interesting.
00:33:43.42\00:33:46.15
But--
00:33:46.19\00:33:48.46
What a way to put it.
00:33:48.49\00:33:50.53
But during that time,
00:33:50.56\00:33:52.43
the Lord gave me this
passion for natural health
00:33:52.46\00:33:54.93
and so I began to study
00:33:54.96\00:33:58.20
just alternative health
in alternative medicine.
00:33:58.23\00:34:01.70
I began to study
herbs and their application
00:34:01.74\00:34:06.74
and it was as though God
had given me this gift for.
00:34:06.78\00:34:10.58
So I started
really, really studying.
00:34:10.61\00:34:13.55
And I'm the type who when
I get involved in something,
00:34:13.58\00:34:16.69
I immerse myself into it.
00:34:16.72\00:34:18.32
So I just got
very, very involved
00:34:18.35\00:34:21.69
and I started taking classes.
00:34:21.72\00:34:23.22
So I took
iridology, I took reflexology,
00:34:23.26\00:34:29.46
I took, and then I later,
00:34:29.50\00:34:32.80
I went into acupuncture
00:34:32.83\00:34:34.77
and traditional
Chinese medicine.
00:34:34.80\00:34:36.87
I became a naturopathic doctor
00:34:36.91\00:34:39.21
and board certified
00:34:39.24\00:34:41.14
in traditional Chinese medicine.
00:34:41.18\00:34:43.11
So it was then so I
was able to have my own--
00:34:43.14\00:34:45.41
You got too much
time on your hand.
00:34:45.45\00:34:47.08
Oh, yeah.
00:34:47.12\00:34:48.85
Well, that it was,
00:34:48.88\00:34:51.59
the traditional Chinese
medical study was very intense
00:34:51.62\00:34:55.79
because you had to
learn all the herbs
00:34:55.82\00:34:57.56
and their properties
00:34:57.59\00:34:58.93
and how to blend them
00:34:58.96\00:35:00.30
because you had your own
pharmacy, herbal pharmacy.
00:35:00.33\00:35:03.00
And so it was, it was
very, it was an intense study.
00:35:03.03\00:35:06.50
And poor Jason, I know
he was, bless his heart
00:35:06.53\00:35:09.04
I was always studying
00:35:09.07\00:35:10.67
because I was trying to make
a better life for him as well.
00:35:10.71\00:35:14.68
And I became your pincushion.
00:35:14.71\00:35:16.34
I know.
00:35:16.38\00:35:17.71
Can pick everything she learned.
00:35:17.75\00:35:19.65
Come here, Jay.
00:35:19.68\00:35:21.38
Let me work on you real quick.
00:35:21.42\00:35:23.02
Let me do this. Let me do that.
00:35:23.05\00:35:24.39
Oh, man.
00:35:24.42\00:35:25.75
That's true. Even acupuncture?
00:35:25.79\00:35:27.59
Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah, bless his heart.
00:35:27.62\00:35:31.19
Tell us little, tell us a
little bit about acupuncture
00:35:31.23\00:35:33.60
then and now?
00:35:33.63\00:35:35.46
Well, when I went to the
school for the open house,
00:35:35.50\00:35:41.50
I went to the Dallas
College of Oriental Medicine
00:35:41.54\00:35:44.21
and I went to the
school for their open house
00:35:44.24\00:35:46.04
and I remember asking,
00:35:46.07\00:35:47.41
"Is this related
to eastern religion?"
00:35:47.44\00:35:51.88
And the guy told me, no.
00:35:51.91\00:35:54.12
He said, this is,
00:35:54.15\00:35:56.52
it does have
elements of Darwinism in it
00:35:56.55\00:35:58.92
but you don't,
00:35:58.95\00:36:00.89
you don't practice
eastern religion with it.
00:36:00.92\00:36:03.96
So I thought okay,
00:36:03.99\00:36:06.63
then this will be good
00:36:06.66\00:36:08.00
because it offers
me clinical experience
00:36:08.03\00:36:11.00
and supervision and,
00:36:11.03\00:36:12.93
you know, it was an interesting
course of study and I needed,
00:36:12.97\00:36:17.67
I needed to have that
kind of clinical supervision.
00:36:17.71\00:36:21.34
So I went to the school
and while I was in school
00:36:21.38\00:36:28.18
there were some things
that I kind of brushed aside.
00:36:28.22\00:36:30.49
Like I thought that's
a little bit strange but,
00:36:30.52\00:36:33.89
you know, I
just kind of figured,
00:36:33.92\00:36:36.49
okay, I don't need to
really worry about that.
00:36:36.52\00:36:39.43
Well, later my friend
Yolanda, after I was practicing,
00:36:39.46\00:36:44.07
my friend Yolanda told me,
you know, that is of the devil.
00:36:44.10\00:36:48.67
And she and I really, we fell
out for little while over it
00:36:48.70\00:36:51.44
because my flesh just
weld up in me and I was saying,
00:36:51.47\00:36:55.14
you don't know, what
you're talking about.
00:36:55.18\00:36:56.61
I'm the one that studied this.
00:36:56.64\00:36:58.21
I know it's not from the devil.
00:36:58.25\00:36:59.81
And I would pray
with my patients first
00:36:59.85\00:37:03.55
like asking God to help me with,
00:37:03.59\00:37:05.55
you know, but the
Lord is so merciful.
00:37:05.59\00:37:07.86
I mean, really,
00:37:07.89\00:37:09.22
He's probably shaking His
head looking me like this,
00:37:09.26\00:37:11.06
this child is just out of it.
00:37:11.09\00:37:12.86
But I thought I was
doing something right
00:37:12.89\00:37:16.56
and then later I found out
that it really was not of God.
00:37:16.60\00:37:21.27
And as I began
to investigate it,
00:37:21.30\00:37:25.64
once I saw that it
had its roots in astrology
00:37:25.67\00:37:30.15
and that and I felt
like oh, my goodness.
00:37:30.18\00:37:35.75
I've been doing something
that was rooted in astrology.
00:37:35.78\00:37:39.65
And as soon as I found that out
00:37:39.69\00:37:41.76
and it was 95
percent of my income.
00:37:41.79\00:37:44.16
As soon as I
found that out I left it
00:37:44.19\00:37:47.33
because I knew that I
had a decision to make
00:37:47.36\00:37:50.47
that either I was gonna
continue along that path,
00:37:50.50\00:37:54.30
you know, of
practicing acupuncture
00:37:54.34\00:37:57.97
or I was gonna do what
God was telling me to do
00:37:58.01\00:38:00.48
and touch not the unclean thing.
00:38:00.51\00:38:03.24
Get away from it.
00:38:03.28\00:38:04.68
And there are gonna be
some folks who write in
00:38:04.71\00:38:08.82
and call and say, you
know, acupuncture is fine.
00:38:08.85\00:38:12.35
It works.
00:38:12.39\00:38:13.72
Yes, it works but like my
dear brother Schubert Palmer,
00:38:13.76\00:38:16.59
Dr. Schubert Palmer said
to me, acupuncture does work
00:38:16.62\00:38:20.20
but what's the power behind it?
00:38:20.23\00:38:22.86
And that is the question,
what is the power behind it?
00:38:22.90\00:38:28.30
This is where, Danny, Yvonne,
in the years I've known her,
00:38:28.34\00:38:31.77
I use a term gets point with me,
00:38:31.81\00:38:33.38
when she came to the Lord
00:38:33.41\00:38:35.58
she was in the
industry making six figures
00:38:35.61\00:38:38.01
we can say, doing quite well.
00:38:38.05\00:38:40.48
I used to tease her
because she and Yolanda,
00:38:40.52\00:38:43.18
this line of Mercedes
Benz would come and park
00:38:43.22\00:38:45.12
in front of the church
00:38:45.15\00:38:46.49
and everyone will come to church
00:38:46.52\00:38:47.86
and sling they
mix all over there,
00:38:47.89\00:38:49.22
you know, where
they met over the pews.
00:38:49.26\00:38:51.73
But when they were baptized,
00:38:51.76\00:38:53.83
this group of
men and women decided
00:38:53.86\00:38:55.66
there are
certain kinds commercials
00:38:55.70\00:38:57.03
we are not gonna do any more.
00:38:57.07\00:38:58.40
We are not gonna sing for
things that enter the body.
00:38:58.43\00:39:00.87
No more liquor,
no more cigarettes,
00:39:00.90\00:39:02.27
no more these kinds of things.
00:39:02.30\00:39:03.64
They cut that right away.
00:39:03.67\00:39:05.01
And of course in New York
the industry is such that,
00:39:05.04\00:39:07.04
okay, if you don't do it,
Danny, I'll find somebody else.
00:39:07.08\00:39:09.34
I'm not gonna beg you,
I'll just get the next person
00:39:09.38\00:39:10.75
because there's
a line of people.
00:39:10.78\00:39:12.11
Sure.
00:39:12.15\00:39:13.48
So if you don't want
to, we go to somebody else.
00:39:13.52\00:39:14.98
So they each took
this immediate salary hit,
00:39:15.02\00:39:18.62
deep cut in their salary
00:39:18.65\00:39:19.99
because they chose
not to do certain things
00:39:20.02\00:39:21.76
that they felt
were against the Lord.
00:39:21.79\00:39:23.36
Then years later,
00:39:23.39\00:39:24.73
she's involved in
a lucrative practice
00:39:24.76\00:39:27.23
that's her life.
00:39:27.26\00:39:28.60
She finds out that
it's not of the Lord.
00:39:28.63\00:39:30.20
Again there is no
dicker, there is no,
00:39:30.23\00:39:32.37
you know, so okay,
Lord, I'm not doing anymore.
00:39:32.40\00:39:34.97
So now what do I do?
00:39:35.00\00:39:36.34
You know, because you
lose A and you take my dime,
00:39:36.37\00:39:39.17
I need a quarter,
00:39:39.21\00:39:40.54
give me a quarter
replaced by that kind of thing.
00:39:40.58\00:39:42.28
But at least two times I
saw where she made a decision
00:39:42.31\00:39:45.61
for the kingdom of God
00:39:45.65\00:39:47.48
that resulted in
great financial loss.
00:39:47.52\00:39:50.75
Not a couple of dollars
but 50, 60, 70, 80 percent
00:39:50.79\00:39:53.69
of your salary
that's considerable
00:39:53.72\00:39:56.29
but she did it and I've always
and I've told her about that.
00:39:56.32\00:39:58.93
I salute her for that
00:39:58.96\00:40:00.30
that she put Christ first
00:40:00.33\00:40:01.86
and the Bible says,
when you put Christ first,
00:40:01.90\00:40:03.33
you look out for Him, He
is gonna look out for you.
00:40:03.37\00:40:05.80
And He did.
00:40:05.83\00:40:07.17
And praise the Lord, He did.
00:40:07.20\00:40:08.60
Every need was taken care of.
00:40:08.64\00:40:10.87
Everything that I
needed, the Lord gave me.
00:40:10.91\00:40:15.91
And so, and He had laid on
my heart to finish this book
00:40:15.94\00:40:22.32
and I did and it was the book
00:40:22.35\00:40:24.95
that I finished that got
me out here for an interview.
00:40:24.99\00:40:27.92
Okay, tell us about it?
00:40:27.96\00:40:29.32
Well, Pastor CA,
00:40:29.36\00:40:32.16
he and I kept in
touch over the years
00:40:32.19\00:40:34.30
and I told him that
I've written this book on--
00:40:34.33\00:40:38.07
it was called "Great Days:
00:40:38.10\00:40:39.97
Nine Principles To
Revolutionize Your Life."
00:40:40.00\00:40:42.54
And so he invited
me to come out here
00:40:42.57\00:40:47.18
to 3ABN to interview.
00:40:47.21\00:40:48.54
Now, this is
when I had walked away
00:40:48.58\00:40:50.91
from my acupuncture practice
00:40:50.95\00:40:53.78
and I was looking
to promote the book
00:40:53.82\00:40:55.48
as a source of income for me.
00:40:55.52\00:40:58.35
And so he invited me
out here to share the book
00:40:58.39\00:41:03.26
and my testimony and all that.
00:41:03.29\00:41:04.93
Well, he wasn't
able to interview me
00:41:04.96\00:41:07.30
but you were, Danny.
00:41:07.33\00:41:08.76
And so you interviewed
me and we talked about,
00:41:08.80\00:41:13.03
you know, my
testimony and all that
00:41:13.07\00:41:14.70
and then subsequently we
began to talk about my burden
00:41:14.74\00:41:18.27
for the inner city
00:41:18.31\00:41:19.64
and you had already started.
00:41:19.67\00:41:22.28
At one point you had
founded the inner city ministry,
00:41:22.31\00:41:28.68
on TV it was world of praise
with Pastor Wintley Phipps
00:41:28.72\00:41:31.52
but his schedule and all that
00:41:31.55\00:41:33.22
it didn't allow for that to grow
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.79
and so it was just
kind of lying dormant.
00:41:35.82\00:41:38.49
And you felt impressed
00:41:38.53\00:41:41.20
by the Lord that I
should be the general manager
00:41:41.23\00:41:44.27
of Dare to Dream
00:41:44.30\00:41:45.63
and I can't tell you
how grateful I am for.
00:41:45.67\00:41:50.71
Because this
is, this being here,
00:41:50.74\00:41:53.58
this is why I'm on this
planet to do Dare to Dream.
00:41:53.61\00:41:57.35
I know that.
00:41:57.38\00:41:58.71
I know that God
created me to do this work here
00:41:58.75\00:42:03.22
and I'm so grateful.
00:42:03.25\00:42:05.85
So thank you.
00:42:05.89\00:42:07.22
Well, we are
grateful that you are here.
00:42:07.26\00:42:09.62
I'm grateful
that CA scheduled you
00:42:09.66\00:42:11.93
but what he told me to
do which I rarely ever do.
00:42:11.96\00:42:14.86
He said, "Look, I was gonna
take Yvonne out to eat lunch
00:42:14.90\00:42:18.07
and talk to her and
show her around the ministry.
00:42:18.10\00:42:21.50
Can you do that
for me because I'm not,
00:42:21.54\00:42:23.84
she just flown in by herself?
00:42:23.87\00:42:25.37
She is gonna be there a
while, she needs to do."
00:42:25.41\00:42:28.38
We would have
never got into talking
00:42:28.41\00:42:30.71
about the Dare to Dream
00:42:30.75\00:42:32.55
which was you actually come
up with the name Dare to Dream
00:42:32.58\00:42:35.08
but our world of praise
00:42:35.12\00:42:36.62
we would not have
probably even got into that
00:42:36.65\00:42:39.59
if I just interview her
and say, thanks for coming.
00:42:39.62\00:42:41.69
It's nice to-- so he say,
00:42:41.72\00:42:43.73
would you show her
around the ministry?
00:42:43.76\00:42:45.19
So I took you to
different facilities.
00:42:45.23\00:42:47.36
We went to eat and
then in the process
00:42:47.40\00:42:49.30
I saw where your heart
was, where your heart is.
00:42:49.33\00:42:52.20
And so I said,
00:42:52.23\00:42:53.57
man, this is got to
be a fit right here.
00:42:53.60\00:42:55.57
So we know the
Lord dropped you here.
00:42:55.60\00:42:57.27
It wasn't by accident
00:42:57.31\00:42:59.11
but it was by divine providence.
00:42:59.14\00:43:00.48
Amen.
00:43:00.51\00:43:01.84
But now you've come here
Dare to Dream started to grow
00:43:01.88\00:43:04.35
and you need some help
00:43:04.38\00:43:06.11
and how did Jason,
00:43:06.15\00:43:09.05
you all tell us
how this happened?
00:43:09.08\00:43:11.22
Well, I was here
as a volunteer first
00:43:11.25\00:43:16.09
for about six months
00:43:16.12\00:43:19.43
and then I began working
00:43:19.46\00:43:22.43
and the Lord had me in the chair
00:43:22.46\00:43:24.63
but the Lord was
actually coordinating.
00:43:24.67\00:43:26.94
I mean, just
brining the best people
00:43:26.97\00:43:29.54
and all of that.
00:43:29.57\00:43:30.91
But I really needed some help
00:43:30.94\00:43:32.27
because, you know,
running a network by myself
00:43:32.31\00:43:35.34
and I also, you know,
rebuked when I say that
00:43:35.38\00:43:38.15
because I wasn't
running it by myself
00:43:38.18\00:43:39.51
because Lord was,
you know, doing it.
00:43:39.55\00:43:41.18
But I was and I had
all the resources here
00:43:41.22\00:43:44.35
of course on my
disposal and that was a blessing
00:43:44.39\00:43:46.52
but I really needed some help.
00:43:46.55\00:43:49.49
And Jason, Jason had
worked for me in Dallas
00:43:49.52\00:43:54.16
when I was practicing,
00:43:54.20\00:43:55.76
when I had my own
practice in Dallas
00:43:55.80\00:43:58.37
with acupuncture and stuff.
00:43:58.40\00:43:59.73
Jason was my office manager.
00:43:59.77\00:44:01.37
So I knew his, I
knew his work ethic.
00:44:01.40\00:44:04.41
I knew how he was with people.
00:44:04.44\00:44:06.61
How he gets along with people
and people just love Jason.
00:44:06.64\00:44:09.44
He just most lovable guy.
00:44:09.48\00:44:11.25
So I thought--
00:44:11.28\00:44:12.78
That's not a mom speaking.
00:44:12.81\00:44:14.22
You can pay for that.
00:44:14.25\00:44:15.58
That's not mom speaking thought.
00:44:15.62\00:44:17.05
I don't want one
of those pensions.
00:44:17.09\00:44:20.46
And so he was at the
time out of the church.
00:44:20.49\00:44:26.03
So I prayed and I've
been praying for him anyway
00:44:26.06\00:44:29.90
and my older son
and Make came here too
00:44:29.93\00:44:32.10
and I had not mentioned Mark
00:44:32.13\00:44:33.84
and I have to give my
older son is short out
00:44:33.87\00:44:36.00
because I love him more.
00:44:36.04\00:44:37.37
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:44:37.41\00:44:38.74
Mark came her too
but not as my assistant
00:44:38.77\00:44:41.64
but Jason came
to a day of prayer
00:44:41.68\00:44:44.45
and I asked him
would he consider coming
00:44:44.48\00:44:48.08
and being my assistant?
00:44:48.12\00:44:49.45
And you were in the managing
and food industry managing
00:44:49.48\00:44:52.15
a restaurant that seemed likely.
00:44:52.19\00:44:54.32
We don't have time
to get into that story.
00:44:54.36\00:44:56.09
We'll have to do
yours on another one
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but eventually you
said yes to the Lord
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and you came and of
course now got as a great team
00:45:01.26\00:45:04.03
working together
with Dare to Dream.
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What we want to do,
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I promised the
folks in the beginning
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we would play a
song that you've done.
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The song that you
say is your favorite song
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that you ever sung and
it's called "Just in Time."
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So we know that
you will be blessed.
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I'm blessed every
time I hear her sing it
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and see the pictures
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that the crew
kind of put together
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to give us a picture
00:45:26.35\00:45:27.69
of the second coming
of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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So this Yvonne
Lewis "Just in Time."
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There were famines
00:45:51.51\00:45:55.08
and earthquakes
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With trouble all around
00:45:57.65\00:46:02.86
The heavens did shake
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No peace could be found
00:46:07.63\00:46:12.90
There were wars and strife
00:46:12.93\00:46:17.67
On every hand
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It seemed God had lost
00:46:23.04\00:46:27.25
With no hope
00:46:27.28\00:46:30.02
for man
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"Where is your God?"
00:46:36.29\00:46:38.49
the demons cried
00:46:38.53\00:46:40.80
"He's left you here to die
00:46:40.83\00:46:46.07
Your truth has failed
00:46:46.10\00:46:50.87
It's all been a lie"
00:46:50.91\00:46:55.94
But a shout from Heaven
00:46:55.98\00:47:00.82
Can now be heard
00:47:00.85\00:47:06.29
It came from God
00:47:06.32\00:47:10.96
The Living
00:47:10.99\00:47:14.30
Word
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Then just in time,
00:47:19.07\00:47:24.57
the Savior came
00:47:24.61\00:47:28.81
Just in time,
00:47:28.84\00:47:32.58
He called my name
00:47:32.61\00:47:36.42
Salvation's plan
00:47:36.45\00:47:40.39
for fallen man
00:47:40.42\00:47:45.46
Redemption
00:47:45.49\00:47:46.96
by the Great
00:47:47.00\00:47:49.80
I AM
00:47:49.83\00:47:55.24
"Soon there appears in
the east a small black cloud,
00:47:55.27\00:47:58.87
half the size of a man's hand.
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It is the cloud
which surrounds the Savior
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and which seems in the distance
to be shrouded in darkness.
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The people of God
00:48:08.82\00:48:10.15
know this to be the
sign of the Son of Man.
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In solemn silence,
00:48:13.69\00:48:15.02
they gaze upon it as
it draws nearer the earth,
00:48:15.06\00:48:18.29
becoming lighter
and more glorious,
00:48:18.33\00:48:20.76
until it is a great white cloud,
00:48:20.80\00:48:23.30
its base a glory
like consuming fire,
00:48:23.33\00:48:26.40
and above it the
rainbow of the covenant.
00:48:26.43\00:48:29.50
Jesus rides forth
as a mighty conqueror.
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Not now a 'man of sorrows,'
00:48:32.84\00:48:34.71
to drink the bitter
cup of shame and woe,
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He comes, victor
in heaven and earth,
00:48:37.45\00:48:40.12
to judge the
living and the dead.
00:48:40.15\00:48:42.75
With anthems of celestial melody
00:48:42.78\00:48:45.39
the holy angels, a
vast, unnumbered throng,
00:48:45.42\00:48:48.76
attend Him on His way.
00:48:48.79\00:48:50.93
The firmament seems
filled with radiant forms--
00:48:50.96\00:48:54.46
'ten thousand
times ten thousand,
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and thousands of thousands.'
00:48:57.20\00:48:59.53
No human pen can
portray the scene,
00:48:59.57\00:49:02.37
no mortal mind is adequate
to conceive its splendor.
00:49:02.40\00:49:06.61
'His glory covered the heavens,
00:49:06.64\00:49:09.34
and the earth was
full of his praise.
00:49:09.38\00:49:12.25
And his brightness
was like the light.'
00:49:12.28\00:49:15.05
As the living
cloud comes still nearer,
00:49:15.08\00:49:17.65
every eye beholds
the Prince of life.
00:49:17.69\00:49:20.79
No crown of thorns
now mars that sacred head,
00:49:20.82\00:49:24.39
but a diadem of glory
rests on His holy brow.
00:49:24.43\00:49:28.30
His countenance outshines
the dazzling brightness
00:49:28.33\00:49:32.13
of the noonday sun.
00:49:32.17\00:49:33.74
'And on His robe
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and on His thigh a name written,
00:49:35.40\00:49:37.87
King of Kings,
and Lord of Lords.'
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Then just in time,
00:49:42.68\00:49:48.38
the Savior came
00:49:48.42\00:49:52.75
Just in time,
00:49:52.79\00:49:56.19
He called my name
00:49:56.22\00:50:00.23
Salvation's plan
00:50:00.26\00:50:04.43
for fallen man
00:50:04.47\00:50:09.47
Redemption by the Great I AM
00:50:09.50\00:50:16.31
Salvation's plan
00:50:16.34\00:50:20.48
for fallen man
00:50:20.52\00:50:27.32
Redemption
00:50:27.36\00:50:30.53
by the Great
00:50:30.56\00:50:34.73
I AM
00:50:34.76\00:50:41.00
Amen, Amen!
00:50:41.04\00:50:47.01
Amen!
00:50:47.04\00:50:50.88
Amen!
00:50:50.91\00:50:56.89
Amen. Wow.
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Praise the Lord.
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That song, Danny,
00:51:07.33\00:51:08.93
flesh and blood do not
reveal that song to you
00:51:08.96\00:51:10.93
when you wrote that song
really the Lord inspired that.
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Oh, absolutely.
00:51:14.90\00:51:16.24
Yvonne, there is
somebody probably watching today
00:51:16.27\00:51:17.97
right now
00:51:18.01\00:51:19.34
that they are in
this valley of decision.
00:51:19.37\00:51:21.18
What would you say to them? Oh.
00:51:21.21\00:51:22.88
They are looking at the
world like you did before
00:51:22.91\00:51:25.11
but now you, what
would you tell them?
00:51:25.15\00:51:27.68
You can never
lose by obeying God.
00:51:27.72\00:51:32.35
God has a master plan for you
00:51:32.39\00:51:34.92
and so if you
just will follow God
00:51:34.96\00:51:37.76
and do what He
would have you to do,
00:51:37.79\00:51:40.66
you can't lose.
00:51:40.70\00:51:42.03
Don't be afraid.
00:51:42.06\00:51:43.40
God says, I will-- Jesus said,
00:51:43.43\00:51:44.80
"I'll never leave
you nor forsake you.
00:51:44.83\00:51:46.50
I've got your back."
00:51:46.53\00:51:48.30
And He will make sure
that you are cared for
00:51:48.34\00:51:51.87
and taking care of.
00:51:51.91\00:51:53.24
God is so
faithful, He is so reliable,
00:51:53.27\00:51:56.48
He will never let you down.
00:51:56.51\00:51:59.51
Man, friends,
everyone can let you down,
00:51:59.55\00:52:03.15
Jesus will never let you down.
00:52:03.18\00:52:04.99
You can't lose
by being obedient.
00:52:05.02\00:52:06.69
And, you know, I'm convinced
00:52:06.72\00:52:08.06
if I hooked her
up to a lie detector,
00:52:08.09\00:52:10.06
she would pass it,
00:52:10.09\00:52:11.43
when she says she is
happier now more peace
00:52:11.46\00:52:14.10
live into, well, we
don't pay her that much
00:52:14.13\00:52:16.13
at Dare to Dream.
00:52:16.16\00:52:18.50
Believe it is right
00:52:18.53\00:52:19.87
she was with all
the money coming in.
00:52:19.90\00:52:21.30
Is that true? That's true.
00:52:21.34\00:52:22.74
You found the
peace, the real peace.
00:52:22.77\00:52:24.17
Absolutely. I wouldn't trade
what I have now for anything.
00:52:24.21\00:52:28.21
Nothing. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:52:28.24\00:52:29.58
Thank you so much.
00:52:29.61\00:52:30.95
We are gonna take a short break,
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go to news break
and we will be back
00:52:32.35\00:52:33.68
for a closing thought.
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