Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Danny Shelton (Host), John Lomacang (Host), Shelley Quinn (Host), Dr. John Torquato, Ester Lopez, Gary Ross, Karen Phillips, Scott Learned
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY016001A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:05 Spend my life 00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend 00:14 My life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:27 Let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:09 My name is C.A. Murray. 01:11 And allow me please, just once again, 01:12 to thank you for your love, your prayers, 01:14 your support of this ministry. 01:15 Thank you for helping us 01:16 do what God has called this ministry to do, 01:19 that's to lift up the mighty and matchless name of Jesus 01:21 and take that name just as far 01:24 and as fast as God will enable us to do. 01:27 So thank you for your partnership 01:29 and for letting us know how we can be a blessing to you 01:33 because you certainly are a blessing to us. 01:35 Got a very special program today, 01:37 I love it when we have a chance to look at some roles 01:40 and to bring to you 01:42 the news of the doings of the Lord around the world, 01:46 so many different ministries, 01:48 so many hearts being touched, so many lives being changed. 01:52 And this is one of the fun programs that we do 01:54 because we get to meet really 01:56 neat people doing great things for the Lord. 01:58 Up front and first, 02:00 Shelley Quinn had a chance to talk with Karen Phillips. 02:04 Now this is a great story. 02:06 This is marriage, divorce, reconsecration, remarriage, 02:13 disappointment, trial, triumph, sadness, exaltation, 02:18 all rolled into one. 02:20 Shelley Quinn, Karen Phillips, you'll love this one. 02:23 It'll be a blessing to you. 02:28 We're here in beautiful Spokane, Washington. 02:30 We're on the exhibition floor 02:31 at the Convention Center at ASI. 02:34 And one thing I love about meting the people 02:37 is that we hear so frequently 02:40 how 3ABN programming has touched someone's life. 02:44 And today, we have someone who has... 02:46 God has given her an incredible testimony. 02:50 Let me introduce you to our special guest 02:51 Karen Phillips. Hello. 02:53 Karen, thank you so much for being here. 02:55 You're welcome. 02:57 Now you and your husband 02:58 are very actively involved in a ministry called 03:00 He Returns. 03:02 Just give me a little synopsis of what that ministry is about. 03:06 Well, He Returns was created to be able to do something 03:10 that was impossible for man to do. 03:12 And we wanted to be able to spread the Gospel message 03:15 through multimedia. 03:18 So what He Returns does is we lease sub-channels 03:22 from television stations. 03:24 Our first was in Kansas City, and now this week, 03:28 we're actually going up in Denver. 03:30 And what we do is we downlink 3ABN 03:33 to those people in those cities 03:35 so that they can have the message of 3ABN. 03:38 Praise the Lord. Yes. 03:40 But we're here today, not so much you work... 03:43 Your husband and few other men at his church 03:46 began He Return's. Yes. 03:48 And you work as a volunteer for He Returns. 03:51 Yes. 03:52 But we want to talk today with you 03:54 about what God has done in your life 03:56 through the power of his words. 03:58 Tell us a little bit about 04:00 your Treasure Seekers Bible Study group 04:03 and how you became involved 04:07 in exercising the power of God's word. 04:10 Well, I've had a Bible Study group 04:12 called Treasure Seekers at our church in Omaha. 04:15 And we are always looking for wonderful material to study. 04:19 I saw one of your programs on 3ABN 04:22 and saw your book, Exalting His Word. 04:25 So we studied that book chapter by chapter. 04:28 And the great part about your book, Shelley, 04:31 was the pages of scripture in the back of it 04:34 that you call Life Affirmation Scriptures. 04:37 So that's what I really used in my life 04:40 to make a difference. 04:41 All right, now how did that make a difference? 04:44 Tell us your story. Okay. 04:46 My story is my husband and I were married for 20 years, 04:50 we have four children. 04:52 Because of a lot of circumstances, 04:54 we ended up being divorced 04:56 and our divorce lasted for ten years. 05:00 Now during this time, you and your husband 05:03 were still going to the same church? 05:04 We went to the same church. 05:06 He was involved in our children's lives, 05:08 lived about a mile away from our home. 05:11 But there were so many things that paralyzed us. 05:14 We could not come back together again. 05:17 All right, so when you learned... 05:20 And then it just thrills me, 05:22 it's so humbling to know that God can work... 05:26 Use you as a tool in his hand to introduce teaching, 05:30 His teaching to someone to know the power of the word. 05:33 When you learned to return God's word to him, 05:36 knowing it wasn't going to return void, 05:39 how did that impact your marital situation? 05:46 Well, my son came in, in April, 2013, 05:49 and he wanted me to pray that he and his... 05:53 His dad and I would get back together again. 05:56 And it really made me angry, 05:58 but God started laying it on my heart 06:00 that that's what `I needed to pray for. 06:02 And during that time, there was, 06:05 you know, a relationship that he was involved in that 06:08 broke my heart, it realized to me that I... 06:11 He started dating someone else? 06:12 I could lose, I could lose my family forever. 06:16 Even though we were in this paralyzed state, 06:18 we were still functioning somewhat, 06:20 but it wasn't the way God wanted it. 06:22 So my message to the women out there today 06:25 is that God can work powerfully to restore relationships. 06:29 But the way He does that is through His word. 06:32 So He would wake me up in the middle of the night, 06:34 has He ever done that to you? Oh, yes. 06:37 I couldn't go back to sleep, couldn't go back to sleep. 06:39 So I would get my Bible out and I took your book, Shelley. 06:43 And I started writing those 06:45 Life Affirmation Scriptures out in my journal 06:48 and then I would repeat them back to God 06:51 and I would claim those promises. 06:53 And one of the promises He gave me was Isaiah 43:18,19. 06:59 "Forget about the past, look to the future. 07:01 I have something new for you, 07:02 can't you see it, can't you perceive it?" 07:04 Amen. 07:05 So I forgot about the past and I started claiming to God 07:10 that it was righteous and if He's a righteous God 07:14 and in His perfect world, 07:15 He would want my husband and I back together again. 07:18 And that's what Ellen White, says that, 07:21 when she writes about Nehemiah, 07:23 that it's a holy argument, it's holy purpose 07:26 and God will honor those prayers. 07:29 And another big part of it was confessing 07:32 what I had done wrong. 07:34 I had always prayed for John my husband, 07:37 always asked God to change him, 07:40 but God laid on my heart 07:41 that I had to confess everything 07:44 that I could think of, that He laid on my mind, 07:47 confess it, and give it to Him and ask for forgiveness. 07:50 And that's when God can do 07:52 amazing healing and amazing restoration, 07:55 that's the key to restoration. 07:57 Oh, absolutely. 07:58 So you are praying God's word back to Him. 08:01 Yes. 08:02 Knowing it doesn't return void, 08:04 but He watches over His word to perform it. 08:07 Here you and your husband had been divorced 08:09 for ten years. Ten years. 08:10 Still attending the same church. 08:12 Before we go to the transition, how God worked this out, 08:16 let me ask you question. 08:17 For those ten years, you weren't dating, 08:19 you were focused on rearing your children. 08:20 That's right. 08:22 And your husband wasn't really involved in anyone else's 08:26 until you started praying for restoration, suddenly, 08:29 he started dating a woman that he brought to church. 08:31 Yes. 08:33 Well, how did that affect you when he showed up? 08:35 Here you've just begun to pray for restoration 08:38 and now suddenly, 08:40 there's someone in your husband's life 08:42 that it could mean 08:45 that all your prayers might not be answered. 08:48 How did that affect you? It was devastating. 08:50 And I call this my four months of Gethsemane. 08:54 Because I really didn't know... 08:55 I knew God wanted the best for me. 08:58 And I knew He heard my prayers, 09:00 I just didn't know what He was going to do. 09:02 I didn't know if this marriage would be restored, 09:06 but that's what I claimed. 09:07 I claimed that and it was devastating, 09:09 I couldn't go to church, at that church. 09:12 I went to another city to go to church, 09:15 but I had a dear friend that was praying along with me 09:18 and she said, "Karen, that woman does not belong 09:20 next to your husband, you do." 09:22 Praise God. 09:24 And so just like Nehemiah, 09:25 I really didn't share this with a lot of people. 09:28 It was between me and God 09:30 and it was a few select friends that I knew would pray-- 09:34 Amen. And they prayed. 09:36 They did, they prayed. 09:38 So, how did God restore your relationship? 09:41 Well, this relationship didn't last. 09:44 You're talking about the dating? 09:46 Yes. 09:48 Your husband was dating someone and that didn't last? 09:49 And so I approached him and I asked him 09:50 if he wanted to get together and talk. 09:53 I had approached him before that time, 09:56 but he has said, "No." 09:57 This time he said, "Yes." And we started talking. 10:01 And it was like God had wiped everything away. 10:04 It was like a clean slate, a brand new relationship. 10:09 In fact, the Lord actually gave him, 10:11 the verse of Isaiah 43:18 where God says, 10:15 "Do not dwell on the past." 10:18 he says, "I am doing a new thing in you, 10:21 cannot perceive it?" 10:23 So he had given him the very same verse, 10:27 you come together and you start talking. 10:30 And the past actually, 10:31 it was like God dissolves the past. 10:34 Yes, it was refreshing, it was unbelievable. 10:38 We decided we wanted... 10:39 This was a first part of October. 10:41 We decided we wanted to get married December first. 10:45 Wow. 10:46 And we're both looking at each other going. 10:48 "Wow, this is so soon." 10:50 But John's apartment lease was up. 10:52 He would have had to lease it for another year 10:55 or we would have to get married 10:56 and he could come and we could live together. 10:59 So we prayed about it 11:02 'cause we thought people would think we were crazy. 11:04 We prayed about it, I got up the next morning 11:07 and God clearly told me to count the number of days 11:11 since we first started talking to 11:13 when we wanted to get married. 11:15 And you know, Shelly, it was 52 days. 11:18 The same number of days 11:19 it took them to rebuild the walls 11:21 of Jerusalem with Nehemiah. 11:23 And I had been studying Nehemiah too, 11:25 so that was my answer. 11:27 And we got married and it's just been amazing. 11:31 We look at each other and we cannot believe 11:33 that we're together and that God has given us new life. 11:37 But we believe it's because the time is short 11:40 before He's going to return. 11:42 God wants these relationships repaired. 11:46 And He wants to be able to use us in a powerful way 11:49 to bring that end time message to thousands of people. 11:54 Now you recently had the opportunity 11:56 to give your first sermon. 11:58 Yes. 12:00 And it was on the restoration. Yes. 12:02 You told a fascinating story. 12:04 You want to share the story about the cannibals? 12:07 Yes, it's a movie actually called, "End of the Spear", 12:10 that you can watch, 12:12 but it's about five missionaries 12:13 that went to Quito, Ecuador in 1950s, 12:18 with their families and their young children. 12:20 And they... It was laid on their heart. 12:23 Nate Saint was studying the book of Nehemiah. 12:26 And the Lord led him down there with four other missionaries 12:30 and they would... 12:31 They wanted to take the Gospel message 12:33 to the cannibals, 12:35 they were called Waodani or the Auca Indians. 12:38 And they were trying to make contact, 12:40 take their airplane and they'd circle around 12:43 and drop a rope down with a bucket, 12:45 and they'd have prizes, you know, presents in their, 12:49 trying to say, "We're friends, 12:50 we want to be peaceful with you. 12:52 We want to give you hope." 12:55 And unfortunately, 12:56 one of their attempts to make contact, 12:58 they landed the plane on the river bank 13:00 and they were all speared to death. 13:03 Nate Saint had a son named Steve and he grew up. 13:08 His aunt Rachel stayed down there to help minister 13:12 and bring the Gospel to these people. 13:14 And he returned after his aunt Rachel passed away 13:18 to continue her ministry. 13:19 And he met the man 13:21 that actually speared his father to death. 13:24 Who had now been converted? 13:26 He was a Christian now. 13:28 And Steve Saint, through God's power, 13:31 was able to forgive him. 13:32 He brought him back to the United States 13:35 and he claimed him as the grandfather 13:37 to his very own children. Wow. 13:40 His father was dead. 13:42 This was the man who had killed him. 13:45 But now he put him in his place 13:47 and he told this man Mincayani, 13:49 he told him, "You did not take my father's life. 13:54 My father gave his life to you." 13:56 Oh, how precious. 13:58 So another example of restoration of relationships, 14:01 God is powerful he can do it for anyone. 14:05 Karen, we know, there is power in the word of God. 14:11 It is alive and active, it is a powerful thing. 14:15 There are times, 14:16 and we don't want to leave the wrong impression here, 14:19 do you believe that if women pray as you pray 14:22 that all marriages are going to be restored? 14:25 You know, God knows everyone's hearts 14:27 and He knows every place that a person is at. 14:30 And I just believe 14:32 that if you truly give yourself over to the Lord, 14:34 That He will guide and lead your life. 14:37 When I was praying, 14:38 I had no idea what God was going to do. 14:41 But my part was to pray and to be faithful 14:44 and to give my life to the Lord 14:46 and to let Him lead according to His will. 14:49 Amen. 14:50 To be submissive, we're praying boldly, 14:55 but humbly before the throne of grace. 14:58 And the point being that God knows what's best 15:02 and He knew for you and your husband 15:04 that He intended for you, 15:06 it was His perfect will for you to return. 15:08 And there are times and circumstances 15:10 that not all marriages would be... 15:14 It may not work, 15:16 both the hearts have to be surrendered to the Lord. 15:18 He may not restore the marriage, 15:19 but He will restore you. Amen. 15:21 That's precious. Yes. 15:22 Now, since you've remarried, it's been a couple of years 15:25 and that's when your husband and few other men at his church 15:29 had begun the ministry of He returns, 15:31 and if you keep watching on three 3ABN, 15:33 you'll see Danny's, 15:35 is going to be introducing or interviewing 15:37 John your husband. Yes. 15:39 And, but that ministry had been kind of simmering, 15:43 they had a 501(c)(3) and for several years, 15:46 had been kind of limping along, we'll say, 15:48 but since God restored your relationship, 15:51 now that ministry has exploded. 15:53 He's opening the doors to downlink 3ABN, 15:57 to Kansas City and now Denver, and we're hoping, 16:00 just whole lot of more cities as time goes on quickly. 16:06 Well, we just want to thank you so much for sharing your story. 16:09 It's, you know, there's a certain vulnerability 16:12 in just being honest about your life circumstances, 16:16 but at the same time, it brings glory to God 16:19 and we see how God's changed you 16:21 through the power of His word. Amen, amen. 16:23 And giving you the desire of your heart 16:26 and now using you in ministry. 16:28 And just, we're so thankful, 16:30 what a blessing that you responded to God. 16:34 And I'm excited that you, like me, have found the power-- 16:38 Amen. Of praying God's word. 16:39 Amen. 16:41 Okay, thank you so much. 16:42 And we're so glad that you're watching at home. 16:44 Stay tuned for more. 16:49 What a heartwarming story. 16:51 I happen to know of other individuals 16:52 who have been divorced and remarried 16:54 and God has brought them back together 16:56 and made their relationship so much stronger 16:58 than they originally were, just a blessing. 17:01 And we thank the Lord 17:03 that out of this reunion can come ministry 17:06 and glory can be gotten to the cause of Christ. 17:09 Well, now John Lomacang had a chance 17:11 to interview Dr. John Torquato and Esther Lopez. 17:16 This is a health ministry story, 17:18 sorry, a free clinic, health coaches. 17:21 It talks about the capacity 17:23 that each of us have for kindness. 17:26 John Torquato, Esther Lopez 17:29 interviewed by Pastor John Lomacang. 17:35 Hello, friends, and my name is John Lomacang. 17:37 And I'm here with 3ABN in Spokane, Washington 17:40 at the 2015, ASI convention 17:43 and I have a wonderful interview for you, 17:45 Dr. John Torquato and Esther Lopez 17:49 both involved in total health program 17:52 here in Spokane, Washington. 17:54 And by the way, so good to have you here today. 17:56 Thank you, John. 17:57 And Esther, I'll reach over there later on, 17:59 don't want to come in front of the cameras. 18:00 But because we don't have a ton of time, 18:02 Doctor, tell us, who you are? 18:04 Where you're from? 18:06 And what you do right now? 18:07 I'm a board certified family practice physician. 18:09 I practice in Hayden, Idaho and Spokane Valley, Washington. 18:14 Okay. 18:15 And I work closely with our local pastor 18:17 and a free clinic also in our church in Hyden. 18:20 Okay, and Esther, 18:21 good to have you here, by the way. 18:22 Thank you. 18:24 Give us an overview of who you are, 18:25 what you do right now. 18:27 Okay, so I'm a health coach here in this program 18:28 for this last eight weeks. 18:30 But I'm from Southern California 18:32 and I was doing Bible work previous to this. 18:34 And how did both of you meet? 18:36 Just, kind of, maybe lead into that. 18:38 How did you meet? 18:39 And we'll talk about the program in just a movement. 18:41 Okay, so, it was in GYC this year, 18:45 I had not go plan to go. 18:46 God providentially provided everything for me to be there. 18:50 And I ran into 18:52 one of Dr. John's colleagues Eric Kelly 18:55 and without really realizing it, 18:59 I had been praying for an opportunity 19:00 where I could combine my health and bible trainings. 19:03 Yes. 19:05 And, all of a sudden that week, 19:06 I was really impressed to contact Eric. 19:09 I really don't even know Eric, 19:11 but I was very impressed to do that. 19:13 So I found him on Facebook, I contacted him 19:16 and asked him if he had done anything 19:18 with the ideas of ministry that he had before. 19:21 Five years ago is when I met him. 19:23 And it just so happens 19:24 that he emailed me back that same night. 19:27 He said that they had just been praying very earnestly 19:31 that God would send team members 19:33 for this summer's project. 19:35 Okay. 19:36 And that I had been the first one 19:38 and that it was, kind of, unusual at how quickly, 19:41 it had only been like two hours since they had prayed. 19:43 And so from there we kept on communicating and I thought, 19:47 yeah, I'll do this later on. 19:49 But it turned out that God really wanted me 19:52 to come this summer. 19:53 God had other plans. Yes, He did. 19:55 Now we're going to talk about 19:56 comprehensive medical evangelism. 19:59 Now I've heard of comprehensive insurance, 20:02 but, Dr. Torquato, tell us about 20:04 comprehensive medical evangelism 20:06 as it is lived out 20:09 through the Total Health Program 20:10 here in Spokane, Washington. 20:11 The way we see comprehensive medical evangelism 20:15 is in the fullness of whole person care. 20:18 We have a physical, a mental, emotional, 20:21 a spiritual, and a social component 20:23 that we try to address with every patient that we see. 20:26 And we find that when we put them all together, 20:28 it really is more effective 20:31 than I could have been in an office setting 20:35 as a physician or our pastor could have been 20:38 in a community setting as a pastor, 20:39 you put those together, pastor and physician together, 20:43 and becomes comprehensive, 20:45 so the patients, the people are blessed, 20:48 they're healed and yet they learn about Jesus. 20:52 And, when you think about it Jesus was involved 20:55 in comprehensive medical evangelism. 20:57 Yes. 20:58 Because he did more healing 21:00 than he did preaching and teaching. 21:01 That's right. 21:02 And so when you think about the entire person. 21:04 But I'm interested, where did the idea come from? 21:05 Where did the sparks get going? 21:07 Because we know that everything that we do 21:09 has a beginning. 21:10 How did God plant that vision in your heart 21:12 to be involved in this? 21:14 Well, you know, everything has a continuum, 21:17 so we started very slowly in Hayden, Idaho, 21:21 we ended up with a small church based medical clinic 21:25 that involved people that were coming in 21:28 from the community that had medical disease, 21:30 the pastor and myself combined. 21:32 And then we would incorporate church members as coaches 21:37 that would go through our program 21:39 with the patients over a period of months. 21:41 That was over a period of years that occurred. 21:43 But three years ago, we began to study a model 21:46 called the "Ten Dell method", of evangelism. 21:49 And we got some good information 21:52 from our good friend Eric Kelly 21:54 who helped us to get some direction 21:57 on how to be comprehensive in nature 22:00 so that it was an evangelistic, it was physical, 22:02 and spiritual and emotional, social altogether. 22:06 Last summer, we had six young people 22:09 who came to our town and spent seven weeks with us. 22:15 Each of those assigned four patients from my office, 22:18 had a very effective time, 22:20 probably the most effective ministry time 22:23 that I've seen personally. 22:24 And this year, a slight morphing of that program 22:29 was that our patients came 22:30 from a community base this time. 22:32 And from church members, relationships 22:35 and from our church. 22:37 Okay, so the people that became a part of the program 22:39 eventually were not just people 22:41 that you were taking care of in your family practice, 22:45 but ultimately, people that the church members 22:47 got in contact with through their... 22:48 Through the work they did. 22:50 Give us an equation, because we talked about doctors, 22:53 what kind of equation? 22:55 can pastors be involved? 22:56 How do you put together a team for this Total Health Program? 22:59 The team has to have three major elements. 23:02 The first one is the pastor. Okay. 23:04 The pastor is the head of the, of the work that is done 23:08 in comprehensive medical evangelism. 23:10 But he can't work as affectively 23:13 without his health related co-worker. 23:16 Okay. 23:17 And that could be a physician and could be a dentist, 23:20 it could be a physical therapist or a nurse. 23:23 So a pastor, a health worker, 23:25 and then the church has to come alongside. 23:27 Without those three connections, 23:29 it doesn't work the way we have looked at it, 23:32 doesn't work as nicely. 23:33 Okay, now notice Esther's a young lady. 23:36 Tell me about the young people component 23:38 now that you've been involved in that, 23:41 what would you say to young people 23:42 that are saying well, 23:43 "My church really hasn't given me anything to do? 23:46 Talk about that for a movement. 23:48 Okay, well, our team is made up of different, 23:52 varied backgrounds, not everybody came 23:54 with health training. 23:55 We have a graphics designer, that's not health or medical. 23:59 We have a young man 24:01 whom just had an interest in health, 24:02 He did a health science degree, but he is not a doctor. 24:05 Right. 24:06 We have, we had a few nurses as well. 24:08 But what I see is practical that any young person can do 24:13 is that what we learn to do 24:16 is not just to come to someone and say, 24:18 "Hey, do you want Bible studies?" 24:19 Right. 24:21 But, to come and give them an approach of, 24:22 "Hey, we can help you." 24:24 And having the doctor or having a medical 24:27 and a pastor be involved was key 24:31 because they, kind of, prep them for us to arrive. 24:34 But even if you don't have that setup, 24:36 you can go to anybody and say, 24:38 "You know, we are the longest living people, right?" 24:41 That's true. 24:42 "And we have materials, we have information, 24:44 would you like to learn how to improve your life?" 24:48 And for us, it was simple things 24:50 like helping someone for their laundry. 24:53 Okay. 24:54 Which you don't need medical training. 24:56 You don't need any medical training for that. 24:57 Okay. 24:58 But the interesting thing is that 25:00 when you help someone declutter their home, 25:02 it's also decluttering their mind. 25:03 Wow. 25:05 It's affecting the way they feel about themselves. 25:09 We did exercise with individuals who wanted to... 25:12 They seriously needed to exercise for various reasons 25:15 and they just didn't have that motivation. 25:17 I had one and lady that I worked with 25:19 who hated exercising, absolutely hated it, she said, 25:24 "But I just don't know how to do it right." 25:26 and I told her, "Well, how much are you exercising?" 25:28 And she's like, "To the point that I feel like 25:30 I'm going to drop." 25:31 So you have to do that. 25:33 Just exercise a little and then grow until... 25:36 You can stop when you feel good, 25:38 and to this day she says she hears, my head 25:40 in the back of her... 25:41 she hears my voice in the back of her head 25:44 telling her to keep exercising. 25:46 You know, so it was very practical 25:49 just visiting people, just caring for them, 25:51 sometimes even just listening to them. 25:53 And the theme behind the Total Health evangelism 25:57 or comprehensive medical evangelism is the question, 26:00 how can we impact our community? 26:03 Talk about that, because a lot of times, 26:05 we come to communities 26:06 and sometimes in spiritual evangelism, 26:09 which this is definitely spiritual 26:11 in the comprehensive sense, 26:12 whereas sometimes seeking to take a person 26:15 from totally spiritually ignorant 26:17 to baptism in about five or six weeks. 26:19 Yes. 26:21 How does this help build the bridge 26:23 and make more lasting connections? 26:25 We're trying to find people that have needs, 26:29 felt needs, real needs, 26:31 and were trying to meet those needs 26:33 in any way we are able to. 26:34 Okay. 26:35 Often times, because of our background, 26:37 we have capacity in medical terms, 26:38 but sometimes, we have a capacity in just kindness. 26:41 Okay. 26:43 So we will go into their homes, 26:44 we don't ask them to come to us, we go to them. 26:47 And we'll go wherever they... 26:48 Wherever we need to, we'll meet them at the park, 26:50 we'll meet them at the store, we'll meet-- 26:52 The mall. 26:53 We'll be in the mall, we'll go into their homes, 26:54 we'll spend time with their family, 26:56 the children become accustomed to us. 26:59 And as we do, we become friends. 27:01 And as we become friends, we learn to care about people, 27:04 truly care about them. 27:06 And what you do for people 27:07 that you care about is not difficult. 27:10 That's true, that's true. It's not a sacrifice. 27:12 It's not a job, it's a relationship. 27:14 It is a relationship. Yes. 27:16 And that's the glory of this 27:17 is that we become friends with people 27:19 that we really care about and they know it. 27:22 And when they know it, they're drawn to the Gospel 27:25 that we have in our lives. 27:27 And then there's also an assessment part of it 27:28 because when you make connections 27:30 and find out what the needs are that people have, 27:33 talk about that assessment part of your program, 27:36 that daily assessment, how are we doing? 27:38 Tell me what does that entail? 27:40 Initially, as the patients are brought in, 27:42 we have an assessment 27:44 that kind of reviews their case. 27:46 Between the two physicians that were present. 27:49 And oftentimes, we would have consults with our pastor 27:51 if they were spiritual issues. 27:52 But in the medical terms, 27:54 the two physicians would review the case 27:56 and then we would have daily staffing 27:58 that we would cover with every single of the volunteers 28:01 each of their patients. 28:03 And we did that for the entire seven weeks essentially. 28:06 And it was time that we would be able to help 28:09 to direct and refocus and keep safe as necessary, 28:13 and help to make even better the services 28:17 that were being given. 28:19 Now there's not only the medical assessment, 28:20 but talk about the spiritual assessments, 28:22 because you're not just helping people 28:23 with an exercise program or decluttering their homes, 28:26 but there's a spiritual side to that 28:27 which includes Bible Study. 28:29 Talk about that fulfillment. 28:31 Okay, so interestingly enough, 28:34 the people who we got to study the most with 28:36 were already Adventist. 28:37 Okay. 28:39 But we did have 28:40 a non-Adventists family as well, 28:42 who we studied with. 28:43 Just because what got us to Bible studies 28:46 was relationship issues, marriage problems, 28:50 Hey, would you like a Bible study 28:51 to help your marriage? 28:53 Totally. 28:54 One man said that... 28:56 He actually gave us permission to share this. 28:58 He's Mormon, he said, 28:59 "My bishop will not come and help us with our marriage. 29:03 So if your pastor can come and help us, 29:06 I will pay them to come." 29:07 Wow. 29:08 You know, so now he's directly connected 29:10 with the pastor and his wife, he's received a Bible study, 29:13 the couple has received a Bible study on marriage. 29:16 But others, other Bible studies were not as formal, 29:19 they were just while we're in a conversation, 29:22 like for example, one lady was talking about the sunshine. 29:24 Okay. 29:25 And, there was a quote about 29:27 how you should always seek for the sunshine. 29:30 And I was trying to instill in her positivity. 29:33 And I said, "Yes, you should spend time in the sun, 29:35 but you should also stay positive every day. 29:37 Right. 29:38 And then I shared with her, like, 29:40 a scripture from the Bible or something like that. 29:41 And it wasn't it, wasn't hard for her 29:43 she wasn't taken aback. 29:45 She was just like, "Yeah." 29:46 You know, very easy to share, very non-confrontational. 29:51 And so those are the kinds of ways 29:54 that we ended up sharing the Bible with them. 29:56 Just recently, I'm done now here and one of the ladies, 30:00 I was on the phone with her, she was like, 30:01 "I miss you, like I just wanted to say hi." 30:03 And she said, "I still want someone to come visit me." 30:06 I said, "Yeah, there's someone in the church who will come." 30:09 And, she said, "But you guys can't do anything on Saturday, 30:11 'cause you guys, you know, 30:13 Saturday is your day, you know." 30:14 And I said, "No, no, we do good on the Sabbath 30:17 'cause that's what Jesus did." 30:18 And she said, 30:20 "Really, you do something on the Sabbath? 30:21 I though you guys, kind of, just sat around." 30:22 I said, "No, no, no, 30:24 it's the day where we impact the world 30:25 in a positive way." 30:27 Right. 30:28 And, she was surprised 30:29 'cause, she had a misconception 30:31 of what Adventists do on the Sabbath. 30:32 So that even helped in the spiritual sense 30:34 to broaden her ideologies. 30:36 Yes. What are these people do? 30:37 We just to sit around, we don't breathe very heavily. 30:39 Yes. 30:41 You know, we just, we keep the Sabbath, 30:42 but we keep away from people. 30:44 But she discovered that no, 30:45 this is the time to reach out to people. 30:47 To make a difference in their lives. 30:49 As you know, in the Bible, 30:50 when I can get away from the fact I'm a pastor, 30:52 Jesus healed many people on the Sabbath, 30:54 set them free on the Sabbath. 30:55 Yeah. Brought them liberty. 30:57 But now, Doctor, 30:58 in the assessments that you make, 31:00 I will point to you... 31:01 Well, in the assessments do you ever see 31:03 that there are cases that are medically critical 31:06 as compared to cases 31:08 that need very little to no attention. 31:10 Certainly in those critical cases, 31:12 we would do house calls on ourselves. 31:14 Okay. We would go with the volunteer. 31:17 They would drive us from home to home. 31:18 And we would you home visits in the home. 31:20 We would keep records. 31:22 We would put those records in a typical planned way, 31:25 in a electronic format. 31:27 Right. And we would maintain those. 31:29 And then sometimes, we would direct them, 31:30 there'd be something that's critical enough, 31:32 I need to talk with their physician, 31:33 I'd say, "You know, we need to refer you back your doctor, 31:35 you need to talk to them today. 31:37 Let's make a phone call." 31:38 And then the volunteer would get on the phone 31:40 with the physician and say, 31:41 "Hey, this is the problem, talk to the patient." 31:43 So we put them back into the system 31:44 that they currently exist with. 31:46 Sometimes, we'd have to send them directly 31:48 to the urgent care. 31:49 And that was the nice thing, somebody would call me up 31:51 and they'd say, "Hey, you know, we've got this circumstance, 31:53 so they need to see the urgent care now." 31:55 And off they would go. 31:57 Have you had instances where people, 31:59 after they make that connection, 32:02 they say, "Well, how can I find out 32:05 more about your church?" 32:07 Have you had some of those experiences? 32:08 Yes. Yes, we have. 32:10 On the medical front, tell me how that happened, 32:12 because seeing you as a physician, as a doctor 32:15 and you're not really asking them 32:17 about medical thing... 32:19 I mean spiritual things, have you had those questions, 32:21 "Well, Doctor, well, tell me about your background, 32:23 are you Christian?" 32:24 I ask all my patients about spiritual things all the time. 32:27 Praise the Lord. And so this is no different. 32:30 And they recognize that we are who we are. 32:34 We bless them out of love because we are Christians. 32:37 Okay. 32:38 And they want to know about that. 32:39 In fact, there are people that would like to be here today, 32:42 you know, because they recognized. 32:44 They're not Adventist, but they like to be with us. 32:47 They like to experience what we're doing. 32:49 And it's all because of that relationship of love 32:51 that develops. 32:53 And so going back to the idea, I want to make sure 32:56 that those who are watching the program 32:57 have the information they need 32:58 to go ahead get in touch with you. 33:00 I mentioned this, but also again, 33:02 if you want to find out more about the ministry 33:04 called, Total Health Spokane, it fact is, TotalHealthSpokane, 33:09 that's T-O-T-A-L-H-E-A-L-T-H- S-P-O-K-A-N-E.com, 33:15 where Dr. John Torquato, 33:18 I thought that was a Korean name. 33:20 But it's not, he's very much American, 33:22 and Esther Lopez involved. 33:24 Go back to the original question I asked 33:27 because some people may say, "Well, how hard is this?" 33:30 Esther, tell us about that. 33:32 Oh, it's really easy. 33:34 It's really just building a relationship, 33:36 it could be your neighbor, 33:37 it could even just be someone in church, 33:39 'cause, we were helping people who were in the church. 33:42 Brand new Adventist or church members 33:44 that have been there for a long time 33:45 that are having serious health means. 33:47 But we're not coming in 33:49 and trying to revolutionize their life, 33:50 we're just trying to help in any little way we can. 33:53 So it's very easy to do, even just a phone call, 33:57 just building a friendship, having one friend, 33:59 one of the ladies I was with, just having one friend 34:01 has changed her life. 34:03 So then young people can get involved. 34:05 Yes. 34:06 They don't have to have medical background. 34:08 No. No. Or medical training. 34:09 What are some of the things that they can get involved in 34:10 almost immediately? 34:12 Immediately? 34:13 Yeah, like passing out tracks or-- 34:14 Yeah, yeah, you can... 34:16 Honestly, it's really just building a friendship. 34:18 Can you say hello to someone? 34:21 Oh, I like that. 34:23 Can you notice if, you know, if they look needy, 34:27 maybe they need food? 34:28 You know, have you seen a mother 34:31 that has a lot of kids and a stressed out? 34:33 Wow. 34:34 She might need a babysitter, you know. 34:36 And, and those are the basic daily necessities 34:39 and challenges of life. 34:41 Lot of times people feel that, 34:42 "Well, I don't really have the training. 34:43 I'm not a pastor. I'm not an evangelist, 34:45 what can I do? 34:46 It's the simple method of simply reaching out to people, 34:49 building the bridge on the physical end. 34:51 On the medical and now some of the... 34:54 Some of the physician that are involved, 34:56 what kinds of physicians? 34:57 Well, right now my partner and I 34:59 are family practice physicians. 35:00 Okay. 35:02 But I have a very good friend who's an anesthesiologist, 35:05 who doesn't pain management, 35:06 but he is great at lifestyle medicine 35:09 and he does all kinds of 35:10 lifestyle medicine in his community, 35:12 a very effective. 35:13 And so and then the pastors, you know, 35:16 the pastors that work with us, they don't have to be even 35:21 medically oriented by their background. 35:23 But they work with us side by side. 35:25 So when we're working side by side, 35:27 the pastor will be kind of the receptionist, 35:29 if you will, in the church 35:30 as a patient would come into the church. 35:32 Yes. 35:33 And, often times, the pastor develops a relationship 35:36 before I can. 35:38 And the patient leaves with literature that... 35:40 I've had cases which change their lives medically. 35:43 Because what the pastor had the opportunity to provide. 35:46 And the circumstance is that 35:50 any physician can be participant. 35:51 And any nurse can be participant, 35:53 but any church member really can be participant. 35:56 We've experimented with this 35:57 for over seven years in the church 35:59 with small free clinics. 36:01 And we have church members 36:03 that have changed people's lives. 36:05 Because of their relationship with Jesus 36:07 that becomes side by side walking 36:09 with the person in the community. 36:11 So would say, this is the kind of program 36:12 that if people wanted to implement that in their-- 36:15 Outside of Spokane, 36:16 maybe in Florida or New York or Illinois. 36:19 It's a program that they could duplicate 36:21 the format that you've together. 36:24 And improve it. And improve it. 36:26 And then give us the information 36:27 so we can do to. 36:28 Okay, so it's continually experimenting, 36:30 but in the process, 36:32 you're reaching out and making a difference 36:33 and touching people's lives. 36:35 Well, so good to have you today and Dr. Torquato. 36:38 John Torquato and Esther Lopez. 36:40 And friends, Total Health 36:42 is what the Lord has come to give each one of us. 36:45 "He has come", the Bible says, John 10:10, 36:47 "That we might have life and have it more abundantly." 36:50 Amen. 36:51 Thank you so much for sharing their program. 36:53 If you want to experience Total Health, 36:54 you can get in touch with Dr. John Torquato 36:56 at TotalHealthSpokane.com. 36:59 And I'm sure that Esther to will be glad to come along 37:02 and maybe bring other young people with her. 37:04 This is John Lomacang here 37:05 from ASI in Spokane, Washington. 37:08 God bless you until we see you again. 37:10 Keep trusting the Lord 37:12 for the plans He has for your life. 37:13 He does want you to be involved in some form of evangelism, 37:17 why not Comprehensive medical evangelism? 37:21 God bless you, until we see you again. 37:28 One of the things that we see 37:29 in these latter days, in the last few years 37:32 is the ascendancy of the health message. 37:35 How health is not being used 37:38 just as an adjunct to the Gospel, 37:40 but as the leading wedge of the Gospel. 37:43 Not just the right hand of the Gospel, 37:45 but sometimes the very nexus of the Gospel itself. 37:48 How health ministry is opening up doors 37:51 in many places 37:52 for the preaching of the name of Jesus Christ. 37:55 And so we're very, very excited to see 37:57 that health ministry is been given a new emphasis 38:00 in these last days. 38:02 And men and women are coming to the Lord 38:03 through health ministry 38:05 and through that arm of the message. 38:08 Danny Shelton interviews now Scott Learned and a Gary Ross, 38:14 they're of DayStar Academy in Utah. 38:17 Have you ever thought about 38:19 taking or bringing your horse to school with you? 38:21 Well, this is one of the academies 38:23 that not only promotes bringing your horse, 38:26 they actually encourage you to bring your horse. 38:29 They have students who bring 38:30 their horses to school with them. 38:32 This is DayStar Academy out there in Utah. 38:38 Not a lot of people around 38:39 and maybe that's why they can do this. 38:40 But really a great story, a great story of building, 38:43 of enlargement of the tent, as it were. 38:46 And Danny Shelton had a chance, as we said, 38:48 to visit with Scott Learned, 38:49 who is the president of DayStar Academy 38:52 there in Utah. 38:54 And then Gary Ross helps with a building program. 38:56 DayStar has undergone a lot of building 38:58 and God is doing a lot of things 38:59 to, with, for, and through, that very fine institution. 39:03 Here is their interview in just now. 39:08 I'm sitting here with Scott Learned, 39:11 President of DayStar Academy. 39:13 And, also Gary Ross, you're the construction, 39:16 what do you say, coordinator, Director, Foreman? 39:18 Yes. 39:20 Whatever titles? Whatever. 39:21 And tell us a little bit, Scott, about DayStar Academy, 39:25 where are you located 39:27 and tell us a little bit about it? 39:29 DayStar Academy is located in Utah 39:32 in the beautiful valley, Castle Valley, 39:34 we're just three miles from the Colorado River. 39:36 Okay. 39:37 And then the La Sal Mountains 39:39 are up on the other side of the valley, 39:40 there up over 12,000 feet, 39:42 and it's a beautiful remote valley. 39:45 Okay. 39:47 How long has DayStar Academy been in existing? 39:49 We started in 1970. 39:51 1970? Yes. 39:53 How did it start, somebody's dream? 39:54 Or did church decide to do it, how it start? 39:57 Well, the Nevada-Utah Conference 39:59 is sparsely populated with Adventist 40:02 and it has no boarding academy. 40:05 And two doctors, 40:07 two medical doctors were looking around 40:09 for a suitable place 40:11 and they found these two farms in Castle Valley 40:14 right together for sale and they bought them. 40:17 And in 1970, they started the academy there. 40:20 All right, now there's going to be 40:22 folk watching this program from all around the world. 40:26 This is your one chance. 40:28 I know there's going to be students, 40:29 there's going to be parents and grandparents. 40:33 Why should their student, 40:35 those of the folks watching. 40:36 Go DayStar Academy? 40:39 We're really endeavoring to follow the counsel 40:42 that the Spirit of Prophecy has give us. 40:44 Okay. 40:45 About schools, education, 40:47 with the regular scholastic program 40:50 that most people are used to 40:52 and then the hands on practical program 40:56 that we do as well. 40:58 We integrate the two together 41:00 to make a rounded educational program 41:03 that will really benefit the student when they leave, 41:06 be great for the Lord's work, their own work. 41:11 Just a good rounded program like we're counseled to do it. 41:13 Now the rumor has it 41:15 that some of the students 41:17 can bring their own horses out there is that true? 41:20 Yes, if you have a horse, we have a place for it, 41:24 and they can bring their horse. 41:25 If they have a dirk bike, 41:27 that you see more of the boy's side, 41:29 they can bring a dirt bike and we've got, 41:31 you know, under the conditions, 41:32 we've got lots of places to ride. 41:34 I know, a 15-year old little girl that said, 41:37 "Papa, you mean, 41:38 you can bring your own horse to that academy? 41:41 Well, I'd like to find out about that." 41:43 I said, "Well, we'll have to look into that." 41:45 Yeah. Yeah. 41:46 Well, we have, I think, four students last year 41:48 who had their own horse. 41:49 All right. Yeah. 41:51 Gary, let's talk about 41:52 some building projects that's going on, 41:54 that's really one the main reasons 41:56 we wanted you guys here. 41:57 Something really revolutionary maybe for academies 42:01 and tell us a little bit 42:03 what's happening there on the construction site. 42:06 It was a fascinating beginning. 42:10 We met Scott one day at church in Moab 42:14 and talked a little bit and so a few, 42:17 maybe week or so later, 42:19 we brought some bees out to the DayStar, 42:22 because they have a farm, 42:24 we talked more about construction. 42:26 And it was a week or two later that Scott called me and said, 42:30 "Hey, we're going to get into a building program, 42:34 Garwin McNeilus is going to show up here. 42:37 Will you be interested in coming over?" 42:38 And I said, "Sure, we've been praying about it." 42:42 And so we made the trip over and met with Garwin. 42:47 He had a proposal 42:50 for a new One Day North American house, home. 42:55 So we spend, what, three days together 42:58 I think that the first time. 43:00 And yes, from that day forward 43:03 it is just been an incredible journey. 43:06 Okay, so tell me exactly 43:08 because a lot of our viewers may not be aware 43:11 when you say a One Day school. 43:14 What is that mean? 43:15 Well, it's a take off from his One Day School Church 43:18 that he's built overseas, I guess, thousands of them. 43:23 He's adopted it to a One Day Residence. 43:26 He has a plan for a 24x32 house, 43:33 a one bedroom facility, 43:35 that's going to be very inexpensive 43:37 and quick to build. 43:39 And so we're getting that, Don Kirkman, and us, 43:43 and Garwin, met this week 43:45 to finalize plans to submit for permits. 43:49 He also has a three bedroom 43:52 that we're going to get submit and try to get approved. 43:58 So these buildings are the ones, 44:00 a lot of the folk will know 44:02 that literally they had been shipped 44:03 all the way around the world, 44:04 they put them together in Dodge Center, Minnesota, 44:08 ship them by shipping containers to Africa, 44:11 could may be Cambodia, literally Haiti, 44:15 around the world and volunteers will come 44:18 and they literally put these churches up in one day. 44:21 They're steel structures, 44:22 because I've been some of these countries 44:24 and the termites literally eat these buildings up. 44:28 I was in Cambodia with Garwin several years ago 44:32 and I heard this noise 44:34 and you can literally hear it in church and I said, 44:38 "What is that noise?" 44:39 And they didn't have a PA system. 44:41 He said, "You know, what that is? 44:42 Come out here and I'll show you." 44:44 The termites were eating. 44:45 He said, "These churches last hardly no time. 44:48 So we need to come up with something." 44:50 He said, "I'll think about this and pray about it." 44:53 And the idea came, 44:54 so they build the steel structures, 44:56 have the roof, literally the trusses. 44:58 Everything's cut, the metal is bent, 45:01 shaped there in Dodge Center. 45:03 And literally, volunteers will show up 45:06 in many places around the world. 45:08 And folks can start in one day and by the evening, 45:11 sometimes they're having church. 45:13 And then the locals can finish the side walls 45:16 and if they want to do anything on the interior. 45:18 So basically, what you guys are doing 45:21 is you're taking that one day church structure, 45:25 the metal structure 45:26 and you'll be finishing it yourself is that right? 45:29 That's right. 45:31 It's just an incredible process 45:35 and construction innovation, this could be the start 45:41 of a great thing for North America. 45:43 And it's just been an incredible journey 45:46 with Garwin, I mean, the man is as you know, well know. 45:49 Yeah. 45:51 He's hard to keep up with. Well, I'll tell you what? 45:53 I call him General when we're traveling overseas 45:55 because he can General. 45:56 He sees all kinds of things happening, but, you know, 45:59 what a mind, what a unique mind that God has given him. 46:02 Incredible. 46:03 To really, to put these together 46:05 and then put not only the time and the effort and finances. 46:08 So but we've done it so much overseas, 46:11 but we're starting here in North America. 46:13 And I mean, saving tremendous amounts of money. 46:16 I used to be in construction and build houses. 46:19 And I've seen the difference of the one day, 46:22 one day churches, one day schools, 46:23 one day hospitals 46:25 and how much money that saves is incredible. 46:30 But now going into homes, having one day homes, 46:33 what about administration buildings, 46:35 have we got any plans for things like that? 46:38 Yes, there is, there is. 46:41 That's going on right now 46:43 with Scott and Garwin and Don Kirkman 46:48 and his crew people, they are designing 46:50 and looking at more administration buildings 46:53 and possibly a new campus for DayStar. 46:57 So we call it a new DayStar now. 46:59 I love it. Yeah. 47:01 So we've got several buildings, 47:04 an elementary school building going up, 47:05 and a boy's dorm, we're going to do this way, 47:08 and pretty much a new campus. 47:10 Yeah. 47:12 And people probably-- 47:15 And maybe you don't have the figure, 47:17 but if we thought this out, how much, 47:19 this, money this would cost. 47:20 I mean, you're looking at 47:21 hundreds of thousands of dollars 47:23 and what is this costing DayStar? 47:25 Do you have any idea? 47:27 Well, DayStar didn't have money to put into this to start with. 47:29 Oh, wait a minute. 47:31 How do you do a building project this big 47:33 and no money? 47:34 Well, lots of folks getting together and helping out. 47:38 Wow. 47:40 Garwin is helping to raise a bunch of money, 47:41 he's got friends who are helping out and others, 47:44 ASI is putting something to this. 47:47 So, it's really good. It's really good. 47:49 Isn't that amazing? 47:50 And, I mean in a time 47:52 when the world seems totally upside down, 47:54 that right can seem wrong and wrong can seem right, 47:57 Satan has thing so out of balance 48:00 and you almost just give up, 48:01 you almost give up on people, you watch the news, 48:04 whether it's in America, countries around the world 48:07 and it's like, 48:08 they just look like nothing makes sense. 48:10 Then all of a sudden, 48:11 something like this comes to your attention to say, 48:14 what, look, here are Christians working together 48:17 for a common goal to educate our young people, 48:20 give them a Christian education, 48:22 which course gives a great advantage 48:24 and your life, as you should the Lord tarry, 48:27 we don't know how many years that will be, 48:29 nut in preparation for souls for eternity. 48:32 And so here we get laymen, we get ASI, 48:35 we get church members, we get volunteers, 48:39 everybody working together-- 48:40 Working together, that's the thing. 48:42 For the common good of these young people. 48:44 I mean, it's an incredible project. 48:47 And this, literally, can be a pattern 48:49 for schools and academies 48:52 literally all around North America. 48:53 And to me, it's really wonderful. 48:55 We do it so much around the world, 48:57 but there are a lot of needs right here. 48:59 And I have traveled to many countries around the world 49:01 and a lot of folks say, "Oh, America's just rich, 49:04 and you all got--" 49:05 But they haven't been to DayStar, right? 49:07 They haven't seen some of the academies 49:09 that we have and the needs that we have, 49:12 that our people have sacrificed, 49:14 North America, has given more to evangelism around the world 49:20 than any other division in the Adventist Church. 49:24 And to be able to put some of that right here 49:26 to help meet the needs, 49:27 meet the needs of our own young people here 49:30 as well as around the world. 49:32 Things aren't stopping, 49:33 buildings are still being built, 49:34 churches are being built. 49:36 But I think it's an incredible idea of Garwin, 49:39 when he talks about it, he gets excited. 49:41 He does. 49:42 And, and he's excited about it, and today he said, 49:45 "Come and look at this booth, let me show you these plans." 49:47 And, we both have a little construction background. 49:49 And I said, "You know what? 49:51 It's amazing what God can do through people 49:53 if we're willing to be used for God." 49:55 That's true. 49:57 Garwin can have the ideas, he can help raise the funds, 49:59 but he needs you all, people like you, 50:01 who's in the construction, people like you to say, 50:04 "You know what? 50:05 We're here, our school needs this help. 50:07 We'll do anything we can do to help out 50:10 to make this a win-win for the cause of God. 50:13 Christian education you can't beat it." 50:15 That's right. 50:17 We've done mission trips 50:18 at a lot of other places in the world. 50:20 Now we've got a mission trip at our own campus. 50:22 I love it. Yeah. 50:24 It is. It's incredible. 50:26 I mean his vision, he also has-- 50:29 Out of this has come a grade school, 50:33 a design for a grade school. 50:35 And that same plan then can work for a church. 50:38 And so it's just-- 50:40 I can't tell you who exciting it is, 50:42 and to work with Garwin. 50:43 I mean, I'll get emails from him 50:45 at the 3, 4 o'clock in the morning. 50:49 All right mind, mind just keeps going, doesn't it? 50:53 Yeah. And he's on top of it all. 50:55 Yeah, yeah. You know? 50:56 I know. 50:57 I've been with him, I've seen him work. 50:59 And so we're not uplifting Darwin, 51:01 but we're going to uplift the Jesus and in him. 51:02 That's right. 51:04 The burden that he has for souls 51:06 to the kingdom of God. 51:07 And he, continues to remind this us 51:08 that's what it's all about. 51:10 Yeah, yeah absolutely, wonderful. 51:11 It's great getting to know about DayStar Academy. 51:14 So one more time, tell us where you're located 51:17 and how is there a way 51:18 that we can get in touch with you. 51:19 Some people are watching saying, 51:21 "Man, I want to send my kids out to DayStar." 51:23 Do you have a website or something-- 51:25 We do, simple website, DayStarAdventistAcademy.org. 51:30 DayStarAdventistAcademy.org. That's right. 51:34 That's all you got to go for that 51:36 if you're watching this. 51:38 And you don't have a pencil or paper, can't remember it, 51:41 you can always call us here at 3ABN, 51:43 we'll make sure that you get that website 51:45 and you can find out about DayStar Academy. 51:48 And I know that it's a school. 51:50 And that is preaching the principles of the Bible 51:54 and that, you know, a lot of it, 51:56 we have to be careful in all of our schools, 51:58 Christian schools, Adventist schools 52:00 that we don't go to the left or the right, 52:02 but we stick to the Word of God. 52:04 That's right. 52:05 And so I've been told before I interviewed you guys, 52:08 I did a little background check. 52:09 All right. 52:10 And they said, these, these guys 52:12 are doing what God has called them to do. 52:14 They're promoting Christian education, 52:16 Christian values 52:18 and not compromising with what the world has to say. 52:21 They're interested in seeing these young people 52:23 make heaven their home for eternity. 52:26 So thank you, Scott, and Gary, for what you're doing. 52:29 We'll continue to pray 52:31 and once all of these facilities are up now, 52:33 we want you to come back and do another interview. 52:36 And we want you to send us some pictures or videos 52:39 so we can watch the saying is the progress. 52:41 We would love too. That would be great. 52:43 All right, God bless. Thank you so much. 52:44 Thank you. Thank you. 52:49 When I was in school, 52:50 if you were a very good student in college, 52:52 they allowed you as a sophomore bring your car to school. 52:56 Never really thought about bringing a horse to school, 52:58 but I guess there are those who are horse people. 53:01 Me being a city guy who is not really a part of what we did. 53:05 But there are those who do that and who love it. 53:08 And we're so thankful for the work being done 53:10 at all of our Adventist academies, 53:12 Daystar in particular. 53:13 Well, now we're going to go to our newsbreak. 53:15 Much happening here at 3ABN, 53:17 we want you to be aware of it all 53:18 so that you can pray with and for us 53:21 as we do the work of the Lord. 53:22 We'll do the newsbreak, 53:24 then we'll come back and put a little bow on this 53:25 and say goodbye. |
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