I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN today program.
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Thank you for joining us.
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It's always good to
have Dr. Yvonne Lewis here.
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That's always good to be here.
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And we got a special
program today, don't we?
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We do. What we're
going to be doing?
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Tell our folks,
what we're going to do.
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We are going to be talking
to Greg and Jill Morikone.
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Okay.
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We love them.
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It's going to be
fun Greg and Jill,
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thank you for being here.
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And of course you
all have been with 3ABN.
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You came when Greg?
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I came in 1999.
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1999, that's a
long time ago now.
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You know right.
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And Jill came sometime later.
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We've been married in 2002.
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All right, so
we're going to find out.
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What we're going to do?
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And we thought this
will be a lot of fun.
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We have done it, you probably
may all ready seen one or two
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along the way.
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We're taking some of our workers
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that you see in
front of the cameras,
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sitting down doing
something entirely different.
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And Yvonne's ideas was,
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when I did an interview one day,
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she said "Why
don't you find out?"
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I was interviewing somebody
that was running for president.
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She said, "Why don't you
find out something about them,
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that ask them to
tell us something
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we don't know about them."
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So that's kind of
what we're going to do
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to Greg and Jill today.
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Along the way we'll
be interviewing you.
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But along the way, we
hope to find out some things
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about we didn't already know.
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I love that.
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It's going to be
fun. Yeah, for sure.
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And it's also going to
be a spiritual journey.
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We are not up here
just to talk about our lives
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and all we do.
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But we want you to know
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that I can do all
things through Christ
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who strengthens me.
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Amen.
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And absolutely,
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in your life
whatever your problems are,
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you may have, I say "Are"
because there may be many,
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not is like one,
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but whatever they are,
that God can solve those.
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We have our young people today,
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and we have a song,
we've asked them to sing.
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And it's off of a new
CD, and just happen to say,
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I can do all
things through Christ...
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I love it. So, I
was trying to segue.
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That's a great segue,
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that was
smooth, that was smooth.
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So we do want our folks to know,
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there's nothing too
big that God can't solve it
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and nothing too
small that He won't listen
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to all of our problems,
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so we're going
to the young people.
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This is of the new project,
called "Its Beautiful World,
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I can do all things."
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And then we'll come back
and talk to Greg and Jill.
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I'm one of a kind,
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That's what God had in mind
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When he created me
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I'm part of his plan
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So I know that I can
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Be all he wants me to be
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I can do all
things through Christ
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Nothing's too big or small
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I know that I do so
find my needs is there
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Whenever I call
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Let's read about it
in Philippians 4:13,
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"I can do all things through
Christ who strengthens me."
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And Philippians 4:19 says
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"For my God shall
supply all your need
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according to His riches in
glory through Christ Jesus."
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Much greater is he,
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Who lives within me
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And he that is in the world
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We need not fear,
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For God is here
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To every boy and girl
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I can do all
things through Christ
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Nothing's too big or small
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I know that
he'll supply my needs
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He's there whenever I call
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That's right, boys and girls,
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We can do all
things through Christ.
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All we have to do is
come in the name of the Lord.
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That's exactly what David did
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When he faced that
great big giant Goliath.
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little David says to Goliath,
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"You come to me with
a sword and with a spear
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and with a javelin,
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but I come to you in the
name of the Lord of hosts."
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And we all know what happened
when David drew out the stone,
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and slung it towards Goliath.
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The Lord guided that stone
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to take down the enemy of
David and of the living God.
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So remember there's
nothing we can't do,
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when we come in
the name of the Lord.
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I can do all
things through Christ
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Nothing's too big or small
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I know that
he'll supply my needs
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He is there whenever I call
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I can do all
things through Christ
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Nothing's too big or small
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I know that
he'll supply my needs
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He is there whenever I call
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He is there whenever I call
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I can do all
things through Christ.
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That is such a happy song.
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Oh, I can do all
things through Christ.
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Yes.
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We need to be happy,
when we think about that.
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We do and the songs,
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all the songs on the project
teach lessons through music,
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which is just I mean,
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how can it be better,
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if we have
scripture and music together,
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it binds in the mind.
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It just stays in the mind.
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And you got young
people, who love Jesus
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and they did this all in one day
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as for as the DVD goes.
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That's tremendous.
Great job, absolutely.
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Yes. That's tremendous.
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Well, we're here again
if you're just joining us,
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we are here with
Greg and Jill Morikone.
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And, Greg, you started
here, you came to 3ABN.
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We want to find out little bit.
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Let's go, we'll start out
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where you began
and where you are now
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and where you're
headed hopefully.
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We'll find out for
our viewers at home.
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But how did you
first hear about 3ABN?
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You know, that's
a great question.
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Actually we heard about it...
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Well, I'm from West Virginia
is where I call myself from.
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Grew up in West Virginia.
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But 3ABN there is a
family in our church,
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I grew up in a small
church about 20 members.
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And there were family there
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by Margie and Delanie Stalwarts.
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Okay.
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They owned a little business,
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so they purchased one
of those gigantic dishes.
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Yeah, okay.
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So this will be the
late 80's early 90's.
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Okay.
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I don't know what size
dish that was in, was it 10?
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Probably 12 foot.
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Okay. Wow.
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Yes, so they were big dishes,
and so Sabbath afternoon.
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We lived about an
hour away from church,
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so we would go to
the Stalwarts house
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sometimes Sabbath afternoon.
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Okay.
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And where they
would have 3ABN on.
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Again, you were about
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how old at that
time when you get this?
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Oh my, I was--
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First started to
watch? Probably eight, nine.
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Eight, nine years
old, isn't that amazing?
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And that's something.
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Yeah, so we would
go there and watch...
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You must feel old right now.
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You know what? I
did want to say it.
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I mean, in 1999,
he was eight or nine
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and I won't even think.
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No, no, no, it wasn't in
1999, it was way before--
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Yeah, late '80s
or '90s, I'm sorry.
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But he was--
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So I would be about
12 years old actually.
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About 12, that makes
you feel little better?
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Well... I still can come back.
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You see how I
diverted that to her is 3ABN,
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and I have
blamed her for being--
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Yeah, yeah.
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And really it hit me.
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I was in...
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I forget, it was
in Louisiana somewhere
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and there was this guy come up,
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he was about 6'6" big huge man.
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And had a big deep voice,
and he leaned down, he said,
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"Mr. Shelton, I just
want to thank you for 3ABN,"
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I mean big
beautiful sound and voice,
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6'6" man, not a kid.
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Right.
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"I want to let you know,
I watch 3ABN all my life."
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And I'm like "Oh my."
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We've been around that long.
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I mean this is not a
kid, this is a big man.
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Yeah.
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He said, I grew up with it
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from time I was three years old.
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I have watched you on 3ABN.
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So Greg must be 10 or 12 or
13, you started watching 3ABN.
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Now were you raised in
Christian home obviously,
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an Adventist.
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That's right.
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What about Greg
himself when growing up
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did you have brothers, sisters?
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Yep, I have a younger sister,
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and I want to just mention
this because a lot of people.
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There's a picture, now actually,
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that's my younger
sister Janelle and that's me,
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I'm probably
about four years old.
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All right, look at
that hair. He's very cute.
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And my mom and dad,
Daniel and Valerie Morikone,
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and of course my
sister Janelle and myself.
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But yeah, just my
younger sister and that's it.
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Just the two of us, we're about
two years ten months apart.
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But a lot of
people want to know,
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so Morikone where
does that name come from?
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So quickly it comes from...
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it's actually from Okinawa...
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Okay. All right.
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It's an Island's close to Japan.
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Yes.
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So my grandfather's
100 percent Okinawan.
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He married a blonde hair,
blue eyed Irish Welsh lady.
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Okay. So my dad
is half and half.
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So my grandpa,
he moved to Hawaii
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that's where my dad was born,
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then my dad of
course moved to the States
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and of course
then married my mother
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who is Caucasian and
so I'm about a quarter,
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so lot of people say,
"So Morikone what is that?"
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So I say, "Okinawa."
That's where it came from.
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I thought you were an Italian.
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Oh, really.
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Yeah. Like Morikone.
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Morikone it sounded...
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So my name is so hard to spell,
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the last name
that, when I was small,
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I would always hear my
parents on the phone, say,
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"so my name is Daniel,
my last name is Morikone."
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So as a little kid,
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I didn't quite understand
all letters and stuff,
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so one day I wrote
down "M-O-R-I-K-O-N-E"
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and I said, "Mom." I
said, "What is that spell?"
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She said, "Son,
that's your last name."
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So that was my
first learning lesson
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as my last name, but,
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yeah, really my parents
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are from the West
Coast from California.
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My dad is a registered nurse
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and but I call
myself from West Virginia.
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So you say what took
people from California
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to West Virginia
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You know Hillbillies,
you know, great folk.
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But my dad and mom
had a great passion
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for the people of Appalachia
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and so, my dad
had a great calling
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for the medical field.
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He believes that
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God can use the medical field
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as the right arm of the message,
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you know, go and
help people's needs.
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So my parents went to
West Virginia, Kentucky,
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and that's where they still are.
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My dad has
since became a pastor,
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he's an ordained pastor
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in the West Virginia Conference.
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Okay. Wow.
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But I consider myself
growing up in West Virginia,
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we grew up in a holler.
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What we call holler? Yeah.
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There is, you know mountains,
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and creeks and grew
up way back in the hills
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and a great people.
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So, you grew up in a home
that was focused on service...
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Absolutely.
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And look at how Greg is...
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Yeah.
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I mean you can see
that whole value system
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has been
inculcated and incorporated...
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They're very much, my
parents are very spiritual,
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I grew up with...
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you know just
raised by great parents.
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Wow.
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And the neat thing
is, is that my dad,
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because he was half and half.
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I'm just saying in
the late '70s early '80s
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is very prejudice,
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there in, you know, the
hollers of West Virginia...
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The Appalachia.
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But, so my dad has
some actually prejudice
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against him coming in there,
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but because he was
in health field nurse,
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way back in these hollers,
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that there was
the old party line,
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dial a road re-phone.
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Yes.
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So any time our
phone would ring,
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everyone would pick up,
because they wanted to know
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who is having a
medical emergency.
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And so, they would call
my dad and say, "Hey Doc"
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even though he wasn't a doctor
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and say, "Can you
come out and help us."
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So as a kid my sister and
I had wonderful opportunities
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of going out in a
little Toyota jeep.
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Back through...
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I mean creeks,
unbelievable, up mountains,
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back in these way backwoods.
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And my dad would
minister to their physical need,
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and then usually my sister and I
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would stand
around the person's bed,
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and we would sing
like "Jesus loves me"
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things like that.
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So, great memories of growing up
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service like you say,
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but being able to
sing to the people in need,
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just a wonderful
experience there.
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Now we're finding out Greg sing,
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and as I carried
over to it though.
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No, he does sing, he sings,
I've heard him, he sings well.
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Really, Greg, you've
been holding out on us.
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Well, no, I just
maybe sing in the shower.
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No, no, no, he sings.
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I have heard him sing
with the group and quartet
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and he can sing,
he's got a nice voice.
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Okay.
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Not professional
singer, but anyway
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it's a way to praise the Lord.
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So, you know, one
thing you mentioned about,
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maybe not
knowing, I, as growing up,
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there's not much
opportunity to earn side income,
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you know there back
in the hills and hollers.
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So I used to dig ginseng.
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Have you heard about ginseng?
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Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah.
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So I would go back, you
could have ginseng season,
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I'd go back in the hills.
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I like to go back in
the hills and dig ginseng,
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then I would sell it, that's
how I earned my spare money.
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But it was hard work,
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because my dad would go out
and do the nursing of course,
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then I would at home my sister
and I would raise the garden,
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and weed the
long rosy green beans,
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and tomatoes and all of that.
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So, he kept you
busy working. Absolutely.
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Oh, yeah, my dad
believed in work,
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you know, I
appreciate my father a lot,
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because he very much involved
myself and my sister in work.
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So he would work with us,
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and so we built
our own home there.
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My dad and mom didn't
want to go into debts,
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so we built the
home as they could.
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And then we finished that so,
he very much had me involved,
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I remember hammering
nails as a small kid,
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and very much
involved with my dad.
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I was going to tell
you, Greg's also a builder,
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he's build his own place...
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With help. Yeah.
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Well so, that way we all do but,
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he's helped me on mine,
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when I was building
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and he knows a lot
about construction so,
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very well rounded, knows a bit,
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you know,
gardening and what have you,
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and so you--
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I want to ask you
about spiritually,
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you know, lost of us are
raised in a Christian home,
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but there comes a time
you get 12, 13, 14, 15,
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then sometimes you
decide, you know what?
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This is not for me.
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And kids go off.
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Did that ever happen to you?
Did you go to church school?
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Did your home school?
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Tell me little bit
about your education?
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Education we were home schooled.
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We live so far from church,
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you know, West Virginia
has a lot of corners like this,
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and every Sabbath
I would get car sick,
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because it was so far to go,
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it took about an hour
and 15 minutes one way
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on all these curvy back road,
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so we couldn't go
to the church school,
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they had a little
church school there.
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Couldn't do that, so
we were home schooled.
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But we still got out,
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you know, as we went
to the church and stuff.
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But, spiritually
yeah, I grew up having,
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you know, my own
personal devotions,
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you know, just because that's
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kind of what
you're supposed to do.
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You know, mom and dad says,
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you're supposed
to have your worship.
00:15:08.77\00:15:10.11
So I would do that, of
course we had family worship.
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It wasn't until
about probably 11 or 12,
00:15:11.84\00:15:15.51
that I decided to
give my heart to God
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and get baptized,
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which was a good decision,
I don't regret that at all.
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But it wasn't
actually until college,
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that I really had
that maybe experience
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with God words becomes man.
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I really...
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God is who I need to hang on to.
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Okay.
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And not mom or
dad or their religion,
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but it's something
that I need God for myself.
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Okay. So it
wasn't until college.
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And where did you go to college?
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I went to Hartland College
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actually in
Virginia is where I went.
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And that's actually where
I met my wonderful wife now.
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Okay.
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But that's where I went
to college, so I went...
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I actually did
colporteuring or canvassing
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or what we call LE work,
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where you sell
religious books during summer,
00:15:52.91\00:15:54.95
so just before
I went to college,
00:15:54.98\00:15:57.02
I sold books door to door. Yeah.
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And that was a...
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yeah.
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So you didn't?
00:16:02.12\00:16:03.46
I enjoyed the experience,
00:16:03.49\00:16:04.83
but boy that was something else,
00:16:04.86\00:16:06.19
because I don't really
like going to somebody's door
00:16:06.23\00:16:07.56
and knocking on the
door, trying to sell books.
00:16:07.60\00:16:10.37
But it was a
great experience too,
00:16:10.40\00:16:11.73
and maybe that's what
led into my experience
00:16:11.77\00:16:13.20
at college with God,
00:16:13.23\00:16:14.57
because when you do the selling,
00:16:14.60\00:16:16.34
you know, Great Controversy,
00:16:16.37\00:16:17.71
Steps to Christ
to somebody's door,
00:16:17.74\00:16:19.54
you got to hang on
to God for strength.
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You know, okay, I don't
want to do this, I'm scared.
00:16:21.11\00:16:23.91
So did something
happen at college
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that actually
was pivotal for you?
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That's a great question.
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You know, lot of times in
this adjusting life in general,
00:16:32.42\00:16:34.92
we tend to hold people up,
00:16:34.96\00:16:36.56
maybe on a
pedestal, you look at people,
00:16:36.59\00:16:38.19
you put a lot of trust in them.
00:16:38.23\00:16:39.73
And at that time at school,
I had some people around me,
00:16:39.76\00:16:43.77
I mean not school but elsewhere
that had sort of failed me,
00:16:43.80\00:16:46.77
if you want to say that.
00:16:46.80\00:16:48.14
So you start to
become discouraged.
00:16:48.17\00:16:49.74
And I called my dad one time
00:16:49.77\00:16:51.11
and that's what I was
like, "You know what dad?
00:16:51.14\00:16:52.47
I'm discouraged."
00:16:52.51\00:16:53.84
These people who I thought
00:16:53.88\00:16:55.21
has such and such
relationship with God,
00:16:55.24\00:16:56.68
when I see the
other side they don't.
00:16:56.71\00:16:58.88
And I don't know that really,
00:16:58.91\00:17:00.35
I don't know what I
think of this religious thing.
00:17:00.38\00:17:02.15
And my dad said, "Son"
00:17:02.18\00:17:03.79
he said, I want to
tell you something,
00:17:03.82\00:17:05.39
"I have failed
you, and I'm your dad.
00:17:05.42\00:17:07.86
Don't look to people,
00:17:07.89\00:17:09.22
don't look at the
people at school, your friends,
00:17:09.26\00:17:11.29
he said look to Jesus Christ
00:17:11.33\00:17:12.66
because he will never fail you."
00:17:12.69\00:17:14.13
So he said, "Son, if
you keep Jesus Christ
00:17:14.16\00:17:15.86
number one in your life."
00:17:15.90\00:17:17.50
He said, "Then
you can rise above
00:17:17.53\00:17:19.47
issues and things that
are going on around you,
00:17:19.50\00:17:21.67
and not become discouraged
00:17:21.70\00:17:23.30
and just want to throw
religion out the window,
00:17:23.34\00:17:25.67
and go some other direction,
he said look to Jesus."
00:17:25.71\00:17:27.78
So, yeah, that
was the experience.
00:17:27.81\00:17:29.21
You start to become discouraged
by looking at people,
00:17:29.24\00:17:31.21
so he was trying to
point me from people to God.
00:17:31.25\00:17:34.02
Okay.
00:17:34.05\00:17:35.38
So you never went
out to Doug Batchelor,
00:17:35.42\00:17:37.45
that's when he had
hair, grew his hair long
00:17:37.49\00:17:39.25
and smoke and drink
00:17:39.29\00:17:40.86
and did all
that, lived in a cave.
00:17:40.89\00:17:42.39
You don't have
any story like that,
00:17:42.42\00:17:44.03
it wasn't like David Asscherick
00:17:44.06\00:17:47.66
where you had the
punk rock hairstyles
00:17:47.70\00:17:50.10
and skateboarders like
some of these other guys.
00:17:50.13\00:17:52.60
So you never really went out?
00:17:52.63\00:17:54.04
and did all those kind of things
00:17:54.07\00:17:56.27
I had issues, you know,
obviously with my parents some,
00:17:56.30\00:17:58.34
you know, I'm thinking, well,
I don't know about my parents,
00:17:58.37\00:17:59.77
they don't know anything,
00:17:59.81\00:18:01.14
you know, those
are about teenagers.
00:18:01.18\00:18:02.51
By the time I got to college,
00:18:02.54\00:18:03.88
I was obviously
calling my dad back, saying,
00:18:03.91\00:18:05.25
"Give me some health truth."
00:18:05.28\00:18:07.65
But yeah,
really, no not going off
00:18:07.68\00:18:09.78
and drinking and
doing punk rock stuff, no.
00:18:09.82\00:18:11.75
Okay.
00:18:11.79\00:18:13.12
Did you ever think that
you wanted to be a preacher
00:18:13.15\00:18:14.69
or you went to college,
what were you looking to do?
00:18:14.72\00:18:16.99
What did you want to do in life?
00:18:17.03\00:18:19.53
Yeah, you know, I
always enjoyed being outside
00:18:19.56\00:18:21.86
but I felt that,
00:18:21.90\00:18:23.87
you know, God wanted
me to do something else.
00:18:23.90\00:18:25.63
You know, I like gardening,
I want to be a farmer.
00:18:25.67\00:18:28.10
But my grandpa
had always told me was
00:18:28.14\00:18:30.61
"You can't really be a farmer,
00:18:30.64\00:18:31.97
you can do that
maybe as a side thing,
00:18:32.01\00:18:33.61
you know, bringing your
garden and stuff like that."
00:18:33.64\00:18:35.81
But when I went to college,
00:18:35.84\00:18:37.18
I took, what do you
call then desktop publishing?
00:18:37.21\00:18:39.65
Okay, yeah. Wow.
00:18:39.68\00:18:41.02
So, back then it
was a more page maker,
00:18:41.05\00:18:42.88
we do different
programs now in design,
00:18:42.92\00:18:44.55
but it was
designing stuff on the screen,
00:18:44.59\00:18:46.22
you know, like they do like
now for world magazine stuff
00:18:46.25\00:18:48.32
that the world does.
00:18:48.36\00:18:49.69
Yeah, sure. Okay.
00:18:49.72\00:18:51.06
But I didn't
really, I mean I liked it,
00:18:51.09\00:18:52.43
but I really was
interested in media.
00:18:52.46\00:18:54.13
So there at school, they
didn't have that as a degree,
00:18:54.16\00:18:56.53
but they had,
00:18:56.56\00:18:58.23
they would do their
convocations or camp meetings.
00:18:58.27\00:19:00.47
And they had cameras and audio,
00:19:00.50\00:19:02.20
so I was always
involved with that.
00:19:02.24\00:19:04.11
When my sister and I were young,
00:19:04.14\00:19:05.47
we had a little VHS camcorder,
00:19:05.51\00:19:07.58
you know, big thing you
can hold on your shoulders.
00:19:07.61\00:19:08.94
Oh, yeah.
00:19:08.98\00:19:10.31
So my sister and I
would actually play around
00:19:10.35\00:19:11.68
and do fake news broadcast.
00:19:11.71\00:19:14.15
We would edit with
this one machine in a VCR,
00:19:14.18\00:19:16.48
so we would, you know,
okay, stand over by this thing,
00:19:16.52\00:19:19.12
and then I was the
weatherman and I was over here.
00:19:19.15\00:19:21.02
Okay.
00:19:21.06\00:19:22.39
Then we would be an
interview and interviewee,
00:19:22.42\00:19:24.03
and that's how we played around
with the media stuff back then,
00:19:24.06\00:19:27.00
but I never imagined or
dreamed of coming to 3ABN.
00:19:27.03\00:19:29.76
Yeah.
00:19:29.80\00:19:31.13
It's interesting
how God leads though.
00:19:31.17\00:19:32.50
Isn't it? It really is.
00:19:32.53\00:19:34.27
He put that interest
in your heart years ago,
00:19:34.30\00:19:37.64
and you had no idea
that you're coming here.
00:19:37.67\00:19:39.67
My mom and dad,
actually when I was a teenager
00:19:39.71\00:19:42.08
before college took me
here to 3ABN just on the tour.
00:19:42.11\00:19:45.51
And the person who gave
the tour was Bobby Davis.
00:19:45.55\00:19:47.48
Okay, sure.
00:19:47.52\00:19:48.85
For I don't know, 20 some years.
00:19:48.88\00:19:50.22
Yeah.
00:19:50.25\00:19:51.59
And he gave us a tour of 3ABN.
00:19:51.62\00:19:52.95
I remember that made
a big impact on my life
00:19:52.99\00:19:54.32
that this is a very
powerful, it's a big ministry.
00:19:54.36\00:19:56.73
This building was new
then, they were just been built.
00:19:56.76\00:19:59.46
It was in the
mid '90s. Yeah, yes.
00:19:59.49\00:20:01.23
So, yeah, I was very impressed,
00:20:01.26\00:20:03.77
but again I never thought
that God would bring me here
00:20:03.80\00:20:05.77
to 3ABN.
00:20:05.80\00:20:07.14
How did you get that call
00:20:07.17\00:20:08.94
or how did you make
that call to come here?
00:20:08.97\00:20:11.37
So when I was in college,
00:20:11.41\00:20:12.84
if you do an accelerated a
program at Harland College,
00:20:12.87\00:20:14.88
you could actually do
three years, plus one.
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With the plus one was internship
00:20:17.01\00:20:18.88
and so, I did the
three years of academic
00:20:18.91\00:20:21.32
and the third, fourth year,
00:20:21.35\00:20:23.92
you have to send out to
the different ministries,
00:20:23.95\00:20:26.02
3ABN being one of them,
00:20:26.05\00:20:27.39
I chose to contact 3ABN and say,
00:20:27.42\00:20:29.96
"Hey, will you
accept me, on a internship,"
00:20:29.99\00:20:32.36
and I didn't hear
anything, didn't hear anything,
00:20:32.39\00:20:35.86
didn't hear anything.
00:20:35.90\00:20:37.23
Am I bad?
00:20:37.27\00:20:39.33
Sorry, no, it wasn't--
00:20:39.37\00:20:40.70
Sorry, I'm bad.
No, it wasn't you.
00:20:40.74\00:20:42.64
It was actually
somebody else who contacted me.
00:20:42.67\00:20:44.37
But, I'm... anyway...
00:20:44.41\00:20:45.97
I was getting close to
go into another ministry,
00:20:48.44\00:20:50.38
and it was...
00:20:50.41\00:20:51.75
I looked into my email
00:20:51.78\00:20:53.11
and I didn't see
anything and I thought, okay.
00:20:53.15\00:20:54.52
I'm going to say yes
to this other ministry,
00:20:54.55\00:20:56.62
let me check my email
one more time and I did.
00:20:56.65\00:20:59.55
And 3ABN had replied
00:20:59.59\00:21:01.96
that you guys had said
yes, come for an internship,
00:21:01.99\00:21:04.79
so I'm saying
probably matter of ten minutes,
00:21:04.83\00:21:07.00
you know, I
would have come to 3ABN
00:21:07.03\00:21:08.66
or gone to another ministry.
00:21:08.70\00:21:10.53
Totally different direction.
00:21:10.57\00:21:12.23
Yeah, I know, when I
look back it's just amazing,
00:21:12.27\00:21:14.10
you know, all of us can't...
00:21:14.14\00:21:15.54
I was telling
Jill, last evening about,
00:21:15.57\00:21:18.07
you know, it's just amazing,
00:21:18.11\00:21:19.44
there're miraculous
things in one's life.
00:21:19.47\00:21:20.81
I look back as a
child several times where,
00:21:20.84\00:21:22.61
you know, I can
see the Lord's hand
00:21:22.64\00:21:23.98
that you escaped death.
00:21:24.01\00:21:25.35
I mean it's just vivid.
00:21:25.38\00:21:26.72
There are many times,
I know there are angels
00:21:26.75\00:21:28.08
protect us and we
don't even know it.
00:21:28.12\00:21:29.45
Yes.
00:21:29.48\00:21:30.82
But I see this as
God's hand leading me to 3ABN
00:21:30.85\00:21:33.46
so I came here on internship.
00:21:33.49\00:21:35.09
And thank you Mr. Danny,
00:21:35.12\00:21:36.79
you hired me on
during my internship.
00:21:36.83\00:21:38.93
And I've been at 3ABN
ever since, that was in '99.
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Yeah, there you go.
00:21:42.26\00:21:43.60
Wow working 16,
17 years already.
00:21:43.63\00:21:46.10
I know. Yeah.
00:21:46.13\00:21:47.47
It's been a tremendous
blessing here at 3ABN.
00:21:47.50\00:21:49.24
You guys have
been just very grace...
00:21:49.27\00:21:51.44
gracious to me because,
00:21:51.47\00:21:53.17
a lot of is on the job training.
00:21:53.21\00:21:54.88
And so, it's just been
fun, a fun-fun adventure.
00:21:54.91\00:21:58.45
I remember when
coming into production,
00:21:58.48\00:21:59.81
because, you
know, little camcorder
00:21:59.85\00:22:01.18
is a big differences to these.
00:22:01.22\00:22:02.55
Yeah.
00:22:02.58\00:22:04.79
So, I was trying
to learn all of that,
00:22:04.82\00:22:06.62
and I started out at the Uplink.
00:22:06.65\00:22:08.72
And I had a lot to learn,
00:22:08.76\00:22:10.69
but a lot of
great people around me
00:22:10.73\00:22:12.29
that taught me a lot of things.
00:22:12.33\00:22:14.16
When Greg came, he was like,
Johnny Dinzey was years before.
00:22:14.20\00:22:18.50
We wanted to have an
employee of the month,
00:22:18.53\00:22:20.40
but Johnny
seemed to win it ever,
00:22:20.44\00:22:22.14
I don't know, now you
have a better attitude
00:22:22.17\00:22:24.04
than Johnny
Dinzey, I don't know.
00:22:24.07\00:22:25.77
When Greg came
and still to this day
00:22:25.81\00:22:28.01
how do you have a
better attitude than Greg.
00:22:28.04\00:22:31.25
And so we'll talk a
little bit about some of your,
00:22:31.28\00:22:34.32
where you started at 3ABN
and what you're doing now?
00:22:34.35\00:22:37.05
But now we're going to go back
00:22:37.09\00:22:38.65
and, Yvonne, I'm
gonna turn this over you.
00:22:38.69\00:22:40.52
You go back and find
out some things about Jill,
00:22:40.56\00:22:42.52
we didn't know,
we didn't know, huh.
00:22:42.56\00:22:43.89
Yes, yes.
00:22:43.93\00:22:45.26
Tell us where you grew up Jill?
00:22:45.29\00:22:46.63
I grew up in a lot
of different places.
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My dad was a teacher
for the denomination.
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He taught math and science.
00:22:50.57\00:22:52.13
He was a...and Bible,
he was the boy's dean.
00:22:52.17\00:22:55.40
So, I was born in
Maryland, Hagerstown, Maryland,
00:22:55.44\00:22:57.67
the Hartland View Academy.
00:22:57.71\00:22:59.04
Okay, sure.
00:22:59.07\00:23:00.41
And then we moved to
Michigan and Adelphian,
00:23:00.44\00:23:01.84
but they have since closed.
00:23:01.88\00:23:03.61
We were in Massachusetts,
Illinois, different places.
00:23:03.65\00:23:08.35
But then from 1989 on,
00:23:08.38\00:23:10.89
my parents
moved to Massachusetts
00:23:10.92\00:23:12.32
since stayed there.
00:23:12.35\00:23:13.69
So I would consider myself
a New England girl, I guess.
00:23:13.72\00:23:15.52
Okay, all right.
00:23:15.56\00:23:17.89
Your dad worked
for the denomination,
00:23:17.93\00:23:19.96
but did you personally have
00:23:20.00\00:23:22.00
your own
relationship with Jesus Christ
00:23:22.03\00:23:23.80
or was it through your parents?
00:23:23.83\00:23:26.40
When I was a kid, it was
definitely through my parents,
00:23:26.43\00:23:28.67
you know, I think I always had
a sensitive heart toward God,
00:23:28.70\00:23:32.87
as I look back at it.
00:23:32.91\00:23:34.24
I remember at the age of eight,
studying a Book of Romans.
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Now you think, Romans?
00:23:37.25\00:23:39.45
At eight.
00:23:39.48\00:23:40.82
You know, why would I
want to look at Romans,
00:23:40.85\00:23:42.25
maybe Matthew,
Mark, Luke or John right?
00:23:42.28\00:23:44.05
Right. Right.
00:23:44.09\00:23:45.42
But I thought, all
this is going to help me,
00:23:45.45\00:23:46.79
so I remember I had
my NIV children's Bible,
00:23:46.82\00:23:49.79
you know, the one
with all the pictures,
00:23:49.82\00:23:52.39
and I read it and I
had my little china markers
00:23:52.43\00:23:54.80
and I would mark the
promises in a certain color
00:23:54.83\00:23:57.50
and the other
things in another color.
00:23:57.53\00:23:59.53
So looking back,
00:23:59.57\00:24:00.94
I think I was always
sensitive toward God.
00:24:00.97\00:24:03.00
You know, I
wanted to follow Him.
00:24:03.04\00:24:05.74
As a child though, I always,
00:24:05.77\00:24:09.24
I thought I
could never measure up.
00:24:09.28\00:24:11.11
I was raised in a good home,
00:24:11.15\00:24:13.35
but my parents to
be honest with you,
00:24:13.38\00:24:15.15
it was a legalistic home.
00:24:15.18\00:24:16.52
Okay.
00:24:16.55\00:24:17.89
And so, I always thought,
00:24:17.92\00:24:19.49
okay, you have to be
perfect, you have to be good.
00:24:19.52\00:24:22.76
I'm supposed to
reach the standard,
00:24:22.79\00:24:24.33
I see in the Bible,
00:24:24.36\00:24:25.69
but I can't do it.
00:24:25.73\00:24:27.06
You know, and I
tried and I failed
00:24:27.10\00:24:29.93
and I tried and I failed.
00:24:29.96\00:24:32.83
And then about the
time I was 13 and half,
00:24:32.87\00:24:35.37
I started looking
around men, I thought,
00:24:35.40\00:24:38.47
I don't see other people
really succeeding either.
00:24:38.51\00:24:41.08
Now that, they
probably were succeeding,
00:24:41.11\00:24:43.35
I'm just saying,
it's my own teenage,
00:24:43.38\00:24:45.65
my perspective of things.
00:24:45.68\00:24:48.45
And so I looked
at it and I thought,
00:24:48.48\00:24:50.05
wow, Christianity doesn't work.
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.92
I've tried, I
didn't know about grace,
00:24:52.95\00:24:55.46
I didn't know about Jesus,
00:24:55.49\00:24:57.09
I didn't know that He
is the one who works in us.
00:24:57.13\00:25:00.40
You know both to will and
to do of his good pleasure.
00:25:00.43\00:25:02.86
And I didn't know
any of that and so,
00:25:02.90\00:25:05.20
when I was 13 and half,
00:25:05.23\00:25:06.57
I used to keep journals
and I wrote in my journal,
00:25:06.60\00:25:09.20
God, you don't work. Wow.
00:25:09.24\00:25:11.94
Christianity is fake.
00:25:11.97\00:25:15.08
Everything I've
seen in the Bible,
00:25:15.11\00:25:16.81
I haven't seen walked out,
00:25:16.85\00:25:18.98
so God I'm walking away,
00:25:19.01\00:25:22.68
so I made that choice
00:25:22.72\00:25:25.12
to leave God and leave religion.
00:25:25.15\00:25:28.52
I was...
00:25:28.56\00:25:29.89
How did that play out
when you made that choice?
00:25:29.92\00:25:32.63
What did you do
living in a legalistic home?
00:25:32.66\00:25:34.76
How did you express that?
00:25:34.80\00:25:39.17
I got mad at my mom a lot.
00:25:39.20\00:25:40.70
Okay. Yeah,
little bit of rebellion.
00:25:40.74\00:25:42.90
Lot of
rebellion. Lot of rebellion.
00:25:42.94\00:25:44.61
Lot of rebellion, lot of anger,
00:25:44.64\00:25:47.64
lot of acting out, not
so much as in externally
00:25:47.68\00:25:52.41
but internally,
if that makes sense.
00:25:52.45\00:25:55.95
But, yeah, there
was a lot of rebellion.
00:25:55.98\00:25:57.95
And my poor parents,
you know, I mean, and then,
00:25:57.99\00:26:02.02
this is, that
was about six months,
00:26:02.06\00:26:04.03
and then about six months later,
00:26:04.06\00:26:06.43
two things happened
that changed my perspective.
00:26:06.46\00:26:09.66
One was my mom began to change.
00:26:09.70\00:26:12.80
Now my mom's open about this,
00:26:12.83\00:26:14.54
it's not like I'm sharing
something that's private, okay.
00:26:14.57\00:26:16.91
Yeah.
00:26:16.94\00:26:18.27
But my mom always
struggled with anger
00:26:18.31\00:26:19.77
when I was little growing up,
00:26:19.81\00:26:21.64
and she began to change,
00:26:21.68\00:26:24.31
and the things that I
did that used to bug her
00:26:24.35\00:26:27.42
or make her mad or
she'd say, Jill stop that.
00:26:27.45\00:26:30.79
She quit and I think
what happened, right.
00:26:30.82\00:26:34.19
She is different, what happened?
00:26:34.22\00:26:36.83
And so I began
to push her buttons
00:26:36.86\00:26:38.93
because I
thought is this for real.
00:26:38.96\00:26:40.30
So I knew everything
that would make her irritated,
00:26:40.33\00:26:42.90
so I did that.
00:26:42.93\00:26:45.67
I was like okay,
well, this makes her mad,
00:26:45.70\00:26:47.70
I'll do this.
00:26:47.74\00:26:49.07
This makes her upset,
I'll do this over here.
00:26:49.10\00:26:51.97
But she didn't get mad.
00:26:52.01\00:26:53.68
And for two weeks this went on
00:26:53.71\00:26:55.24
and I remember laying
awake at night and thinking,
00:26:55.28\00:26:56.81
what's different about my mom?
00:26:56.85\00:26:58.35
But I was like, I
don't want to know, you know.
00:26:58.38\00:27:00.42
So after two
weeks, I finally thought,
00:27:00.45\00:27:02.12
okay, I can't stand it
anymore, I need to ask,
00:27:02.15\00:27:04.35
so she was in the kitchen
00:27:04.39\00:27:06.52
and I went down the
stairs and I said mom,
00:27:06.55\00:27:09.12
"What's different?
00:27:09.16\00:27:10.49
What's different about you?
00:27:10.53\00:27:11.86
You're happy all the time.
00:27:11.89\00:27:13.23
You don't get mad anymore."
00:27:13.26\00:27:14.60
And she was like, "Jill,
am I really that different."
00:27:14.63\00:27:17.43
And that's what God does.
00:27:17.47\00:27:18.80
You know, when He
changes us inside,
00:27:18.83\00:27:20.64
we don't always
know the difference
00:27:20.67\00:27:22.24
but other people
always see, what took place.
00:27:22.27\00:27:25.47
And she said, "Am I
really that different."
00:27:25.51\00:27:26.98
And I said, "You are."
00:27:27.01\00:27:28.58
And she said, "The
difference is Jesus.
00:27:28.61\00:27:31.41
I met Jesus."
00:27:31.45\00:27:33.21
And she said,
00:27:33.25\00:27:34.78
"I can't tell
you what a difference
00:27:34.82\00:27:36.45
He's made in my life."
00:27:36.48\00:27:37.82
And I thought, I've
seen that difference,
00:27:37.85\00:27:39.89
you don't have to tell me.
00:27:39.92\00:27:41.26
I've seen it walked out.
00:27:41.29\00:27:42.62
And then right about that time,
00:27:42.66\00:27:43.99
I came across the
Bible verse in Psalm 34
00:27:44.03\00:27:46.96
it says, "Taste and
see that the Lord is good."
00:27:47.00\00:27:50.70
"Blessed is the man or
woman who trust in him."
00:27:50.73\00:27:53.30
And so, I went
to God and I said,
00:27:53.34\00:27:55.77
"I've seen now
that Christianity works,
00:27:55.80\00:27:57.97
I've seen that you're real.
00:27:58.01\00:27:59.87
I've seen that,
00:27:59.91\00:28:01.24
the principles in the Bible
can be walked out in real life,
00:28:01.28\00:28:05.08
so God I'll give
you another chance."
00:28:05.11\00:28:07.98
Isn't that weird, I mean,
me talking to God like that,
00:28:08.02\00:28:11.62
but His shoulders are big,
00:28:11.65\00:28:13.09
you know, He can take our stuff,
00:28:13.12\00:28:14.99
He can take it, if we
are mad or for this or that,
00:28:15.02\00:28:17.16
and so I said God,
00:28:17.19\00:28:18.53
I'll give you two weeks
to reveal yourself to me.
00:28:18.56\00:28:22.16
I want to taste and see
and show me if you're real.
00:28:22.20\00:28:25.93
And so for those two weeks,
00:28:25.97\00:28:28.20
God revealed Himself to
me in such an incredible way
00:28:28.24\00:28:32.61
that I thought, I
never want to go back,
00:28:32.64\00:28:34.31
God's real.
00:28:34.34\00:28:35.91
You know, He is real
and He can make a difference
00:28:35.94\00:28:38.38
and I want that transformation
in my own heart and life.
00:28:38.41\00:28:43.39
That is so beautiful,
that is simply because,
00:28:43.42\00:28:45.95
I think there is so many
people dealing with legalism
00:28:45.99\00:28:49.39
and when you're
dealing with legalism,
00:28:49.42\00:28:51.79
you don't know
Jesus for yourself,
00:28:51.83\00:28:55.16
it's not about Jesus, it's about
00:28:55.20\00:28:57.23
I can't do
this, I can't do that,
00:28:57.27\00:28:59.13
I have to do
this, I have to do that.
00:28:59.17\00:29:01.24
Rules without
relationship mean nothing.
00:29:01.27\00:29:04.61
And so you got to see
00:29:04.64\00:29:07.64
Christianity played out, lived
00:29:07.68\00:29:11.98
because Jesus
changed your mom's heart.
00:29:12.01\00:29:14.08
Amen.
00:29:14.12\00:29:15.45
And look at how God works.
00:29:15.48\00:29:16.82
He changed your mom,
00:29:16.85\00:29:18.32
He does things so
interestingly to make us,
00:29:18.35\00:29:21.89
He'll make one move
00:29:21.92\00:29:23.83
and it
accomplishes multiple things,
00:29:23.86\00:29:26.29
so He moved on your mom's heart.
00:29:26.33\00:29:28.90
Got him closer,
got her closer to Him
00:29:28.93\00:29:31.40
and that moved on your
heart and got you closer to Him.
00:29:31.43\00:29:34.47
And my dad, you
know and my sister,
00:29:34.50\00:29:36.77
I have an older
sister, I'm the baby,
00:29:36.81\00:29:38.77
so, you know, my whole family,
it impacted my whole family.
00:29:38.81\00:29:41.74
Amen. So praise the Lord.
00:29:41.78\00:29:43.61
Wonderful, okay,
00:29:43.65\00:29:44.98
so you get up into high school.
00:29:45.01\00:29:46.65
Did you home schooled? I did.
00:29:46.68\00:29:48.22
Okay, we were
home school too. Yeah.
00:29:48.25\00:29:50.25
And you're looking for a college
00:29:50.29\00:29:52.72
and how did you
come up with Hartland?
00:29:52.75\00:29:55.59
You know, I'm not even
sure, thinking back on that.
00:29:55.62\00:29:58.03
I know, my older sister went,
00:29:58.06\00:29:59.39
so I think I just kind
of went where she went.
00:29:59.43\00:30:01.06
Sure, sure.
00:30:01.10\00:30:02.43
But I'm trying to think
back to why she decided,
00:30:02.46\00:30:04.07
I don't know, I
think the mission focus
00:30:04.10\00:30:05.97
was what my parent
like at that time, you know.
00:30:06.00\00:30:07.67
Okay.
00:30:07.70\00:30:09.04
We're not on his earth just to,
00:30:09.07\00:30:11.74
just to make money,
00:30:11.77\00:30:13.11
although I'm not
saying that's a bad thing,
00:30:13.14\00:30:14.48
you know, we love the
money, not the money itself,
00:30:14.51\00:30:16.38
but we're not on this earth
00:30:16.41\00:30:17.75
just to make a name
or do this and that.
00:30:17.78\00:30:19.28
We're on this earth
to serve other people,
00:30:19.31\00:30:22.38
so I think it was
mission focus, yeah,
00:30:22.42\00:30:24.72
and then I met
this man, summer before.
00:30:24.75\00:30:27.72
So what did you plan
on taking in college,
00:30:27.76\00:30:30.06
what did you want to be?
00:30:30.09\00:30:31.99
I want to be a teacher,
00:30:32.03\00:30:33.80
so I double majored
in English and History.
00:30:33.83\00:30:37.13
Okay. Minored in education.
00:30:37.17\00:30:38.83
That why she writes such
beautiful letters for me.
00:30:38.87\00:30:41.20
That's what crossed my mind.
00:30:41.24\00:30:42.70
Those beautiful
letters are really her.
00:30:42.74\00:30:44.61
When I write them, they
don't look nearly as good.
00:30:44.64\00:30:47.38
There is a few little mistakes,
00:30:47.41\00:30:48.88
maybe a lot of mistakes
but she corrects them all
00:30:48.91\00:30:51.78
and makes them good for me.
00:30:51.81\00:30:53.31
Thank you for that.
00:30:53.35\00:30:54.68
So, you met Greg
before you went to Hartland
00:30:54.72\00:30:58.09
or did you meet him there?
00:30:58.12\00:30:59.45
I met him there, it was
summer before our freshmen year,
00:30:59.49\00:31:01.39
but it was there.
00:31:01.42\00:31:02.76
Okay.
00:31:02.79\00:31:04.13
What do you think of
him when you saw him?
00:31:04.16\00:31:05.49
It's a good question.
00:31:07.30\00:31:08.63
We met in the cafeteria at lunch
00:31:08.66\00:31:11.50
and I thought, oh, he
is a nice guy, he is cute.
00:31:11.53\00:31:14.14
I'm great, I get to
go to school with him,
00:31:14.17\00:31:15.84
so that was really fun,
00:31:15.87\00:31:17.21
but I think as I
got to know who he was,
00:31:17.24\00:31:20.18
that's when I started
to fall in love with him
00:31:20.21\00:31:23.21
initially he used to run camera,
00:31:23.24\00:31:24.58
you know, in the
back of the class
00:31:24.61\00:31:25.95
and I would
always forget my pencil.
00:31:25.98\00:31:28.65
I had to borrow from him.
00:31:28.68\00:31:30.35
So I always
brought extra pencils.
00:31:30.39\00:31:33.89
How cute. All right
smart, there you go.
00:31:33.92\00:31:36.36
So I would sit in
front of him and say,
00:31:36.39\00:31:38.09
"Ah, I don't
have my pencil today,
00:31:38.13\00:31:41.00
do you have a pencil?"
00:31:41.03\00:31:42.56
Of course, I had
one ready, right.
00:31:42.60\00:31:44.70
Absolutely, absolutely,
00:31:44.73\00:31:46.94
see how important it is
to carry your pencil wagon,
00:31:46.97\00:31:49.20
you may want to think about that
00:31:49.24\00:31:50.97
and students here for
sure have an extra in there.
00:31:51.01\00:31:54.54
So you guys from
the freshmen year on,
00:31:54.58\00:31:58.01
your
relationship began to develop
00:31:58.05\00:32:00.65
and are you--
00:32:00.68\00:32:02.02
and you both were
freshmen, so you're same grade.
00:32:02.05\00:32:04.19
That's right.
00:32:04.22\00:32:05.55
And did you talk about,
00:32:05.59\00:32:06.92
when did the
subject of marriage come up?
00:32:06.96\00:32:08.99
You know, that's a good question
00:32:09.02\00:32:10.36
because we have
made the commitment,
00:32:10.39\00:32:11.73
you know, in
Hartland College also,
00:32:11.76\00:32:13.09
you don't, you know
date during school there.
00:32:13.13\00:32:14.96
You know, you want to
focus on your academics
00:32:15.00\00:32:16.60
and what's your there to do,
00:32:16.63\00:32:17.97
so which I was fine with
00:32:18.00\00:32:19.33
because I really want
to see Jill as who she was
00:32:19.37\00:32:22.07
in just regular environment,
so we actually didn't say,
00:32:22.10\00:32:24.21
"Hey, I kind of
like you, can we go out."
00:32:24.24\00:32:26.44
It's just I want to see her
00:32:26.47\00:32:27.81
and just kind of
see how she interacts,
00:32:27.84\00:32:29.18
you know, of course,
00:32:29.21\00:32:30.55
you could tell I gave her
my extra pencils and stuff.
00:32:30.58\00:32:31.91
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:31.95\00:32:33.28
But you know, still you
like to better see someone
00:32:33.31\00:32:34.65
where they are,
00:32:34.68\00:32:36.02
so they do not pretend
some type of false front
00:32:36.05\00:32:37.65
and, so you know,
00:32:37.69\00:32:39.25
was the years
went by, several years,
00:32:39.29\00:32:41.32
I was always
impressed with, well
00:32:41.36\00:32:43.26
she is more than
just surface beauty,
00:32:43.29\00:32:45.73
she has got
tremendous spiritual strength
00:32:45.76\00:32:49.13
and beauty inside,
00:32:49.16\00:32:50.50
and of course to me
that means everything
00:32:50.53\00:32:52.60
in the world,
00:32:52.63\00:32:53.97
so it wasn't till
actually we had graduated
00:32:54.00\00:32:56.67
and we weren't seeing each other
00:32:56.71\00:32:58.27
because we weren't in
the class or anything,
00:32:58.31\00:32:59.81
we haven't seen it very often
that when we begin to realize,
00:32:59.84\00:33:02.31
you know what, this is
more than just friendship,
00:33:02.34\00:33:04.48
I think I like
to pursuit it more,
00:33:04.51\00:33:06.18
so it was after school
actually that we pursuit.
00:33:06.21\00:33:08.02
So you gave her a call?
00:33:08.05\00:33:10.19
I did, we did some
letters, actually letters...
00:33:10.22\00:33:13.66
You went back, you
went back to Massachusetts
00:33:13.69\00:33:16.62
so where did you...
00:33:16.66\00:33:17.99
No, I taught English in Bible,
00:33:18.03\00:33:19.36
at Country Haven
Academy in Washington State.
00:33:19.39\00:33:21.36
Oh, Washington State.
00:33:21.40\00:33:22.73
So I was out there teaching,
when I finished school,
00:33:22.76\00:33:24.63
I went out there
and taught academy kids.
00:33:24.67\00:33:26.67
Okay.
00:33:26.70\00:33:28.04
And it was a great experience
00:33:28.07\00:33:29.40
and Greg and I
corresponded by letter
00:33:29.44\00:33:30.77
so he was here at 3ABN
and he'd write me saying,
00:33:30.81\00:33:34.18
we're doing a
concoction, we are up in...
00:33:34.21\00:33:36.51
was that Chicago?
00:33:36.54\00:33:37.88
Yeah, we did one
in Chicago. Yeah.
00:33:37.91\00:33:39.25
Okay and he'd say we're
here or we're doing this
00:33:39.28\00:33:41.45
and this is what's
going on and whatever,
00:33:41.48\00:33:43.85
so we would
communicate by letter,
00:33:43.89\00:33:45.42
but at that point he
hadn't approached me,
00:33:45.45\00:33:47.26
was more like a
friendship thing.
00:33:47.29\00:33:49.29
And I remember thinking,
he's got to get moving.
00:33:49.32\00:33:52.16
If he is not serious
00:33:56.53\00:33:58.20
then maybe I should be thinking
about somebody else, you know.
00:33:58.23\00:34:01.44
So I did receive a
phone call from my mother.
00:34:01.47\00:34:04.87
So she like Jill, thought
she's a very nice young lady
00:34:04.91\00:34:07.48
and she said son,
00:34:07.51\00:34:08.84
if you don t get moving,
you're going to lose her.
00:34:08.88\00:34:11.35
You're not gonna get her,
00:34:11.38\00:34:12.71
somebody else is
going to get her.
00:34:12.75\00:34:14.08
Okay. So, you know.
00:34:14.12\00:34:16.18
So I decided, I
better get moving.
00:34:16.22\00:34:19.05
Because I
really did in my heart,
00:34:19.09\00:34:20.42
I knew that, you know,
00:34:20.46\00:34:21.79
that this is probably
someone that God has for me,
00:34:21.82\00:34:23.89
so yeah, yeah.
00:34:23.93\00:34:25.93
You know, I think it's
a beautiful thing to me
00:34:25.96\00:34:27.53
about Greg's character though
00:34:27.56\00:34:28.93
because he always
praise about something
00:34:28.96\00:34:32.03
and who consider all
aspects of the equation
00:34:32.07\00:34:35.54
before he makes a decision.
00:34:35.57\00:34:37.07
Sometimes I can be at fault too.
00:34:37.11\00:34:38.71
Then once he
makes a decision though,
00:34:38.74\00:34:40.98
he doesn't change his mind,
00:34:41.01\00:34:42.34
he just go for it, he just goes.
00:34:42.38\00:34:44.55
And so I think
in our relationship,
00:34:44.58\00:34:46.28
you know, he's analyzing
all the different things,
00:34:46.31\00:34:48.32
were I'm like,
"Okay, I'm ready."
00:34:48.35\00:34:49.98
You know, he's
thinking everything
00:34:50.02\00:34:51.72
and then once he's committed,
he is 100 percent committed.
00:34:51.75\00:34:54.39
And that's a blessing. Yeah.
00:34:54.42\00:34:55.76
That's great.
00:34:55.79\00:34:57.13
So how long after
you the processes began?
00:34:57.16\00:34:59.69
Started moving.
00:34:59.73\00:35:01.06
Yes, started
moving, yeah exactly.
00:35:01.10\00:35:02.66
How long after that
did you guys get married?
00:35:02.70\00:35:06.53
Well, so we
were married in 2002,
00:35:06.57\00:35:08.17
so probably about two years.
00:35:08.20\00:35:11.04
Think about two
years when we started...
00:35:11.07\00:35:13.04
Year and half.
00:35:13.07\00:35:14.41
Yeah, maybe year and half.
00:35:14.44\00:35:15.94
Okay.
00:35:15.98\00:35:17.45
Then you brought her here.
00:35:17.48\00:35:19.01
Yeah. For a visit.
00:35:19.05\00:35:20.88
Sure did, yeah,
because she wanted to see 3ABN.
00:35:20.92\00:35:23.28
My first
recollection of seeing you
00:35:23.32\00:35:25.15
at the church Sabbath
when we had the little church.
00:35:25.19\00:35:27.49
Yeah.
00:35:27.52\00:35:28.86
And, and he
brought you at church
00:35:28.89\00:35:30.23
and that's first time
I remember seeing Jill,
00:35:30.26\00:35:32.23
and I said, okay,
that's Greg girlfriend
00:35:32.26\00:35:35.36
so from the beginning
everybody around said,
00:35:35.40\00:35:37.33
those two just look
like they are perfect match,
00:35:37.37\00:35:39.53
they're just,
their personalities,
00:35:39.57\00:35:41.24
their temperament,
00:35:41.27\00:35:42.60
their looks everything
about them, the mannerism,
00:35:42.64\00:35:44.67
they just seemed
like a perfect match,
00:35:44.71\00:35:46.44
I mean that's
just the way you guys
00:35:46.47\00:35:47.98
from the time we first saw you.
00:35:48.01\00:35:50.08
Yeah, we feel the Lord
has brought us together.
00:35:50.11\00:35:52.15
You know this is
an amazing thing too
00:35:52.18\00:35:53.65
because when we first
meet in the cafeteria,
00:35:53.68\00:35:55.18
now this just an
interesting side note
00:35:55.22\00:35:57.22
is that okay, so her parents
00:35:57.25\00:35:59.52
and my mom went
to school together
00:35:59.55\00:36:02.82
and they hadn't seen
each other in years and years.
00:36:02.86\00:36:05.19
So then we end up
in school, I'm like oh,
00:36:05.23\00:36:07.96
we know from their
academy days from years ago.
00:36:08.00\00:36:11.83
Pioneer Valley
Academy in Massachusetts,
00:36:11.87\00:36:13.67
this is in the '60s.
00:36:13.70\00:36:15.04
For you and me that
wouldn't be that long ago,
00:36:15.07\00:36:16.74
I know.
00:36:16.77\00:36:18.64
No, no, no, that's okay.
00:36:18.67\00:36:20.41
Just make us feel
better. It's all right.
00:36:20.44\00:36:22.74
We know about
school in the '60s.
00:36:22.78\00:36:25.48
We know about
those long, long time
00:36:25.51\00:36:27.52
and it was a long time ago.
00:36:27.55\00:36:29.75
So that's been an
interesting connection actually
00:36:29.78\00:36:31.35
because then when the families,
when we get together is,
00:36:31.39\00:36:33.32
you know, they
are reminiscing from,
00:36:33.36\00:36:34.89
yeah, it's just a need,
how God does those things.
00:36:34.92\00:36:36.99
Comfortable all
right, it's comfortable.
00:36:37.03\00:36:39.19
So, anyway, when we first met,
00:36:39.23\00:36:41.16
you know, you don't go off
of all this first impressions
00:36:41.20\00:36:43.06
that you get but I had...
00:36:43.10\00:36:44.43
You know, looking back
is interesting in my mind,
00:36:44.47\00:36:47.70
I believe it was
God now, looking back.
00:36:47.74\00:36:49.44
It was like you gonna
marry this lady someday.
00:36:49.47\00:36:51.71
You know I've had other
00:36:51.74\00:36:53.07
weird stuff
come through my mind,
00:36:53.11\00:36:54.44
but looking back, I'm like, why,
00:36:54.48\00:36:55.81
those are all little things
00:36:55.84\00:36:57.18
that you can just grab and hold
of and say wow, God, I can see,
00:36:57.21\00:36:58.55
even then like you're going
to marry this lady someday.
00:36:58.58\00:37:00.72
And that was a very
first time I met her.
00:37:00.75\00:37:03.89
But yeah once we start
call that dating, courting,
00:37:03.92\00:37:07.46
yeah, it was
about a year and half
00:37:07.49\00:37:09.32
till we got married.
00:37:09.36\00:37:10.73
It's just the
blessing to know you're with
00:37:10.76\00:37:12.33
who God has handpicked for you.
00:37:12.36\00:37:13.90
Yeah.
00:37:13.93\00:37:15.26
I mean that gives
you such assurance
00:37:15.30\00:37:17.70
and praise the Lord, you
know, Greg is my best friend
00:37:17.73\00:37:19.73
and you know, I
praise God for that.
00:37:19.77\00:37:21.24
You know, you pray together
and share burdens and struggles
00:37:21.27\00:37:24.41
and praise God for that.
00:37:24.44\00:37:25.77
Amen.
00:37:25.81\00:37:27.14
Absolutely, we're
learning things we didn't know.
00:37:27.18\00:37:29.28
I know, I'm loving
this. This is so good.
00:37:29.31\00:37:32.31
And for the
folks watching at home,
00:37:32.35\00:37:34.08
young folk, older
folk what have you,
00:37:34.12\00:37:36.42
God has
somebody special for you,
00:37:36.45\00:37:38.79
and so when you just literally
00:37:38.82\00:37:41.26
are willing to wait on the Lord,
00:37:41.29\00:37:44.46
you know, he's got
your back as they say,
00:37:44.49\00:37:46.70
so you two, you waited,
00:37:46.73\00:37:48.93
you did everything
the way you should do it
00:37:48.96\00:37:51.03
and you say finally,
you popped her the question
00:37:51.07\00:37:54.10
and she says
what took you so long.
00:37:54.14\00:37:57.34
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:57.37\00:37:59.07
It was a beautiful thing,
00:37:59.11\00:38:00.44
he flew out to Massachusetts
00:38:00.48\00:38:01.81
and he proposed to me
at sundown Friday night.
00:38:01.84\00:38:04.31
Okay.
00:38:04.35\00:38:05.68
And took me out to the beach,
00:38:05.71\00:38:07.05
and we're right
there on the water
00:38:07.08\00:38:08.42
and he wrote me a
poem and he'll tell you,
00:38:08.45\00:38:11.02
he's not a writer but it
was beautiful, just beautiful.
00:38:11.05\00:38:13.79
How romantic.
00:38:13.82\00:38:17.13
You know, you love somebody...
00:38:17.16\00:38:18.49
And you know she
is a teacher too,
00:38:18.53\00:38:19.86
so that's pressure.
00:38:19.89\00:38:21.90
Exactly, English teacher...
00:38:21.93\00:38:23.73
The poem starts,
00:38:23.77\00:38:25.10
it says the little
boy up on his knee,
00:38:25.13\00:38:26.84
head bowed, praying silently.
00:38:26.87\00:38:29.10
Father, if it be your will
for my life, when I grow up,
00:38:29.14\00:38:32.34
I would like a wife.
00:38:32.37\00:38:33.78
And then it just goes
through about how we met
00:38:33.81\00:38:36.08
and how we
whatever and he even rhymed,
00:38:36.11\00:38:38.08
I mean that's a
really good poem.
00:38:38.11\00:38:39.45
That's great.
00:38:39.48\00:38:40.98
Greg, I'm
impressed, he's romantic.
00:38:41.02\00:38:43.08
Well, Lord helped
me with that poem.
00:38:43.12\00:38:45.69
It worked.
00:38:45.72\00:38:47.06
Yeah, that's true.
00:38:47.09\00:38:48.42
It worked.
00:38:48.46\00:38:49.79
And maybe people calling
you and saying or emailing,
00:38:49.82\00:38:51.56
Greg can I borrow that poem.
00:38:51.59\00:38:54.06
That seems to
work so good I think,
00:38:54.10\00:38:55.70
I want to borrow that for me.
00:38:55.73\00:38:58.30
But I praise God
00:38:58.33\00:38:59.67
because you
know, really, you know,
00:38:59.70\00:39:01.04
and I appreciate it
as we were contemplating
00:39:01.07\00:39:02.80
whether we should get married,
00:39:02.84\00:39:04.17
you know because there is
a lot we want to talk about.
00:39:04.21\00:39:06.07
You know there is
always fun things, you know,
00:39:06.11\00:39:07.44
when you're courting and dating
00:39:07.48\00:39:08.81
but there's also
the serious things,
00:39:08.84\00:39:10.18
you know, that
you talk about life
00:39:10.21\00:39:11.55
and your life goes, what
we want to do as a couple.
00:39:11.58\00:39:14.78
And I was always so
impressed with Jill,
00:39:14.82\00:39:16.79
very much ministry
minded, wanted to help others.
00:39:16.82\00:39:19.79
And of course like you said,
you know, my father and mother,
00:39:19.82\00:39:22.29
very much raised my sister
and myself to serve others,
00:39:22.32\00:39:24.49
you know, that
was the whole thing,
00:39:24.53\00:39:25.86
so to find that common,
you know that common ground
00:39:25.89\00:39:28.23
that we're going to be
involved with ministry as 3ABN,
00:39:28.26\00:39:31.30
I mean it's
just so very blessed.
00:39:31.33\00:39:34.84
What did you think when he said,
00:39:34.87\00:39:36.20
you know, we want to get married
00:39:36.24\00:39:37.57
but I want you to come to 3ABN.
00:39:37.61\00:39:39.47
Now you never
lived in a little town
00:39:39.51\00:39:41.58
of probably 600 people.
00:39:41.61\00:39:43.51
I was a city girl you know,
00:39:43.55\00:39:45.41
I mean really I
consider myself being city girl
00:39:45.45\00:39:47.62
and not inner city girl
but suburban girl I guess.
00:39:47.65\00:39:51.82
And so when I came here yeah,
00:39:51.85\00:39:54.19
I loved him and I
said wherever you are,
00:39:54.22\00:39:56.49
I want to be, you know,
00:39:56.52\00:39:57.86
so it didn't
matter where we lived,
00:39:57.89\00:39:59.63
it just matter
that we were together,
00:39:59.66\00:40:01.30
so when we got
married, I moved here,
00:40:01.33\00:40:03.47
but I think the
first six months,
00:40:03.50\00:40:04.90
you know, as the
adjustment, I remember thinking,
00:40:04.93\00:40:07.34
where am I going to shop?
00:40:07.37\00:40:08.70
Where am I going to shop?
00:40:10.57\00:40:11.91
Yeah, I've heard
that before, right here.
00:40:11.94\00:40:14.44
So then, I thought,
00:40:14.48\00:40:15.81
"Well, Jill, you
don't have to shop as much."
00:40:15.84\00:40:17.18
And I think that
helped our budget a little.
00:40:17.21\00:40:18.91
Okay, all right.
00:40:18.95\00:40:20.42
So then, yeah,
it was a blessing,
00:40:20.45\00:40:22.62
we live on a little gravel road,
00:40:22.65\00:40:24.35
and in the beginning it's
like you run to the window
00:40:24.39\00:40:27.49
to see who is driving by,
00:40:27.52\00:40:28.86
because the
traffic is that scarce
00:40:28.89\00:40:31.16
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
00:40:31.19\00:40:32.53
I mean, it hardly happens
and then I just grew to love it
00:40:32.56\00:40:35.20
and I thought,
when we go say ASI,
00:40:35.23\00:40:37.63
GYC different
places to the city,
00:40:37.67\00:40:39.47
I say thank you
good, I live in a country.
00:40:39.50\00:40:41.34
Yeah, isn't that nice.
00:40:41.37\00:40:43.04
You know, it's so
peaceful, be out in God's nature
00:40:43.07\00:40:45.47
and it's incredible.
00:40:45.51\00:40:46.84
Wonderful and you
built a little house.
00:40:46.88\00:40:48.24
See I'm from big
town of West Frankfort,
00:40:48.28\00:40:50.18
it's 80 some hundred
people, 8,000 whatever.
00:40:50.21\00:40:53.31
They actually live out
00:40:53.35\00:40:54.68
and be a Thomasville
address right, 600 people.
00:40:54.72\00:40:57.49
Wow.
00:40:57.52\00:40:58.85
Maybe 602 since they
moved here two years ago
00:40:58.89\00:41:01.02
but you're actually out there,
00:41:01.06\00:41:03.63
so you not only adjust
but you put out a big garden,
00:41:03.66\00:41:06.26
you got the turners for
your neighbors out there.
00:41:06.29\00:41:08.66
Yeah, he shares his
corn and his tomatoes.
00:41:08.73\00:41:10.87
Yeah, I know, yeah
but it's beautiful place.
00:41:10.90\00:41:14.20
You guys built out
there and it's wonderful,
00:41:14.24\00:41:16.60
so when you came here,
you didn't really have a job,
00:41:16.64\00:41:19.24
you didn't go look
around for the public schools
00:41:19.27\00:41:21.84
whatever to teach,
00:41:21.88\00:41:23.21
so what did you start doing?
00:41:23.24\00:41:24.58
How did you get
involved with 3ABN?
00:41:24.61\00:41:26.05
Yeah, we talked about that
because when I was first came,
00:41:26.08\00:41:27.98
we didn't have a
high school here right
00:41:28.02\00:41:29.95
and, so I was telling
Greg, well, I'm a teacher,
00:41:29.98\00:41:32.52
you know, so
what am I going to do?
00:41:32.55\00:41:33.99
You know, you got
have, what am I going to do?
00:41:34.02\00:41:35.59
And he said,
00:41:35.62\00:41:36.96
"If God has brought us together,
00:41:36.99\00:41:38.46
then God's gonna
open up the door.
00:41:38.49\00:41:40.03
God knows what you should do,
00:41:40.06\00:41:41.40
and where Greg had
grown up with 3ABN,
00:41:41.43\00:41:44.03
we didn't, my
family didn't have 3ABN,
00:41:44.07\00:41:46.50
so it was like all brand new.
00:41:46.53\00:41:47.97
I better talk to your parents.
00:41:48.00\00:41:49.47
They have it
now, they have roku.
00:41:49.50\00:41:50.94
Okay, good, good, all right.
00:41:50.97\00:41:52.37
They have rokus
so they get it now,
00:41:52.41\00:41:54.71
but when I was a
kid, we didn't have it,
00:41:54.74\00:41:56.41
and so when I came
here that's I think
00:41:56.44\00:41:58.81
when I fell in love
with the ministry here.
00:41:58.85\00:42:00.75
I mean it
wasn't something before
00:42:00.78\00:42:02.15
where in Greg it
was kind of before,
00:42:02.18\00:42:04.19
but for me it's
when I came here.
00:42:04.22\00:42:06.25
So I started just a few
months after we got married,
00:42:06.29\00:42:09.52
teaching piano lessons.
00:42:09.56\00:42:10.93
Yes, I heard about
the little trailer.
00:42:10.96\00:42:12.63
People started
asking, will you teach piano
00:42:12.66\00:42:14.36
and I was like, "I
don't know how to teach piano.
00:42:14.40\00:42:16.53
She is a very good pianist.
00:42:16.56\00:42:17.90
I don't have any
degree in music you know,
00:42:17.93\00:42:19.60
I don't know what I am doing?
00:42:19.63\00:42:21.74
So Greg said,
well, you should try Jill
00:42:21.77\00:42:23.41
and I said okay, I'll try
00:42:23.47\00:42:25.31
and so that's
when I started doing.
00:42:25.34\00:42:27.48
I did music with the
kids at our church school.
00:42:27.51\00:42:30.48
Worked there for
ten years I guess,
00:42:30.51\00:42:32.98
before I came over
and worked here for 3ABN.
00:42:33.01\00:42:35.82
Before she started
out at the school here
00:42:35.85\00:42:38.69
our Christian school,
00:42:38.72\00:42:40.06
she thought I
have a little trailer,
00:42:40.09\00:42:41.42
we rented the
trailer from Gonzales Santos
00:42:41.46\00:42:42.99
when he was here.
00:42:43.02\00:42:44.36
Yeah.
00:42:44.39\00:42:45.73
And so the very first
student I believe was Summer...
00:42:45.76\00:42:47.83
Oh, can Summer really play.
00:42:47.86\00:42:51.50
Good job.
00:42:51.53\00:42:52.87
Now she is working here at
3ABN but just a little thing
00:42:52.90\00:42:54.74
then so that was
her first student
00:42:54.77\00:42:56.27
and that was the beginning.
00:42:56.30\00:42:57.64
Yeah.
00:42:57.67\00:42:59.01
So, I was at the
school ten years,
00:42:59.04\00:43:00.38
and this was really incredible
00:43:00.41\00:43:01.74
how God brought me
here to work here at 3ABN.
00:43:01.78\00:43:05.08
To me the
ministry was in my heart,
00:43:05.11\00:43:07.68
and the last two years
that I worked over the school,
00:43:07.72\00:43:11.29
we were praying,
I felt in my heart
00:43:11.32\00:43:12.99
that God was calling me
to work here at the ministry.
00:43:13.02\00:43:16.09
Not that I didn't
love what I did there,
00:43:16.12\00:43:18.06
and I was supposed to
do that for that season.
00:43:18.09\00:43:20.16
But God was like, "Jill, I
want you to do more fulltime
00:43:20.20\00:43:22.56
in the fulltime ministry",
00:43:22.60\00:43:24.43
but Greg and I prayed about it,
00:43:24.47\00:43:25.80
and we said, "well, we don't
want to run ahead of you God",
00:43:25.83\00:43:27.94
so maybe it's not Your
will or what do you want?
00:43:27.97\00:43:30.61
And so we prayed, and we
said, "God if it's your will,
00:43:30.64\00:43:33.64
then 3ABN will approach
us, and ask you to do it."
00:43:33.68\00:43:37.05
And Greg said,
"They're not going to ask Jilly,
00:43:37.08\00:43:39.08
I know they're not going to ask,
00:43:39.11\00:43:40.45
because Mollie had
asked three times in the past,
00:43:40.48\00:43:43.05
Jill will you come work?
00:43:43.08\00:43:44.42
And every time I told her no,
00:43:44.45\00:43:45.85
I'm called to
work with the kids,
00:43:45.89\00:43:47.56
I love the ministry at 3ABN,
but I should be over here."
00:43:47.59\00:43:50.86
And so, we prayed
about it for two years.
00:43:50.89\00:43:53.36
And then one day I was in
Mollie's office, and she said,
00:43:53.40\00:43:56.97
"You know, my
dream for this ministry
00:43:57.00\00:43:58.67
has always been that
you come and work here.
00:43:58.70\00:44:01.10
But I know you're
going to tell me, no."
00:44:01.14\00:44:03.07
And I said actually,
00:44:03.10\00:44:05.01
"I'm going to tell you, yes."
00:44:05.04\00:44:06.41
And she was like,
00:44:06.44\00:44:08.78
and I said, we've
been praying about that,
00:44:08.81\00:44:10.18
and this is, you
know, the hand of God
00:44:10.21\00:44:11.75
'cause we asked God to
show us a sign, show us.
00:44:11.78\00:44:14.55
Yeah, absolutely beautiful.
00:44:14.58\00:44:16.79
So, Greg you came
and you were doing camera
00:44:16.82\00:44:19.59
and working, but eventually,
you ended up at call center.
00:44:19.62\00:44:22.52
That's right, yeah.
00:44:22.56\00:44:23.89
I worked at the
Uplink, then we worked
00:44:23.93\00:44:25.26
on the truck crew
for while traveling.
00:44:25.29\00:44:26.73
The truck was pretty new then,
traveled with the truck crew.
00:44:26.76\00:44:29.43
Then we got together,
and I didn't want to travel
00:44:29.46\00:44:32.37
because, you know,
we're starting our marriage
00:44:32.40\00:44:34.30
and I didn't
want to be traveling.
00:44:34.34\00:44:35.84
And so, an opportunity at
the call center opened up,
00:44:35.87\00:44:38.44
and so, they needed
some help in the print shop,
00:44:38.47\00:44:40.28
remember when we had the
print shop with actual presses,
00:44:40.31\00:44:42.61
with real ink, you know,
was spinning in these wheels
00:44:42.64\00:44:44.65
and all the stuff,
00:44:44.68\00:44:46.01
so I ran the print
shop for a couple of years,
00:44:46.05\00:44:48.52
and then the
opportunity opened up
00:44:48.55\00:44:49.92
to oversee the call center...
00:44:49.95\00:44:51.29
Yes.
00:44:51.32\00:44:52.65
With Christa Benz, and I
worked there for a few years.
00:44:52.69\00:44:55.02
Yeah.
00:44:55.06\00:44:56.39
That great
experience, that I enjoyed a lot
00:44:56.42\00:44:57.76
because the call centers were--
00:44:57.79\00:44:59.59
to me is a very much
interaction with the people
00:44:59.63\00:45:02.83
on the other
side of the TV screen.
00:45:02.86\00:45:04.63
Sure, all the
orders coming and going,
00:45:04.67\00:45:07.00
and of course the printing
and everything going at you,
00:45:07.04\00:45:09.07
you really learn a lot about.
00:45:09.10\00:45:10.77
Plus it gave you some experience
00:45:10.81\00:45:13.27
and leadership and management,
00:45:13.31\00:45:15.78
and then after a period of time,
00:45:15.81\00:45:18.28
we called you over here.
00:45:18.31\00:45:19.65
Now, what we asked
you to do over here?
00:45:19.68\00:45:21.05
Well, right now, I
oversee production,
00:45:21.08\00:45:22.62
production manager
is what my title is,
00:45:22.65\00:45:24.45
and I have a great crew.
00:45:24.49\00:45:25.82
I'm asking him what we,
you know, ask him to do,
00:45:25.85\00:45:28.76
we would have him
do whole lot more.
00:45:28.79\00:45:31.19
What did we promise
you that you would do?
00:45:31.23\00:45:34.20
Well that's funny
because, you know,
00:45:34.23\00:45:35.56
the call center thing
kind of opened up quickly and,
00:45:35.60\00:45:37.47
you know, to be manager there.
00:45:37.50\00:45:38.87
And I was told well, this
is just kind of temporary,
00:45:38.90\00:45:41.07
you know, just kind of
filling for a little bit,
00:45:41.10\00:45:42.70
and that ended up being
about ten years I think,
00:45:42.74\00:45:45.97
temporary ten years.
00:45:46.01\00:45:47.34
Yeah, temporary.
00:45:47.38\00:45:48.71
But it was fun, I appreciate--
00:45:48.74\00:45:50.08
But you're a
production manager--
00:45:50.11\00:45:51.45
Here right now.
Doing an incredible job.
00:45:51.48\00:45:52.81
It's fun. Absolutely.
00:45:52.85\00:45:54.18
Great crew to work with.
00:45:54.22\00:45:56.02
Both Greg and Jill have this,
what you see, is what you get.
00:45:56.05\00:46:00.02
Honest.
00:46:00.06\00:46:01.39
I mean, they,
you know, some people
00:46:01.42\00:46:02.86
put on a different personas.
00:46:02.89\00:46:04.73
I call it put on the dog.
00:46:04.76\00:46:06.36
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:06.39\00:46:08.16
They don't do that.
00:46:08.20\00:46:09.53
They are real, they are so real
00:46:09.56\00:46:11.43
and they do an outstanding job.
00:46:11.47\00:46:13.77
You know, when there's an issue,
00:46:13.80\00:46:15.57
if we have a production issue,
00:46:15.60\00:46:17.01
I can talk to Greg, there's
no... He's just so easy--
00:46:17.04\00:46:20.04
I enjoyed
working with both of you.
00:46:20.08\00:46:21.84
You know, it's
a blessing. It is.
00:46:21.88\00:46:23.75
And I feel like,
we're really a family here,
00:46:23.78\00:46:26.95
that this is not--
00:46:26.98\00:46:28.32
That's right.
00:46:28.35\00:46:29.68
You know, this is about
ministry and we are about
00:46:29.72\00:46:32.69
trying to just
share the gospel and so,
00:46:32.72\00:46:35.89
there is as Mollie
says, "There's a DNA at 3ABN.
00:46:35.92\00:46:40.10
3ABN has its own
DNA, and I think everybody
00:46:40.13\00:46:42.46
that's here was
handpicked to be here.
00:46:42.50\00:46:45.70
It really does, and of
course, you're actually
00:46:45.73\00:46:48.30
executive secretary
if you want to call that,
00:46:48.34\00:46:50.47
it may be more
than that like to,
00:46:50.51\00:46:52.17
but she is all the
letters and everything nice
00:46:52.21\00:46:55.88
and all the things that people
get that really comes from her.
00:46:55.91\00:46:59.21
And she reminds me of things
that I forget all the time.
00:46:59.25\00:47:02.25
You know, and everyday
just about my phone or the text
00:47:02.28\00:47:05.65
we were going, she'll say,
"Today you have such and such",
00:47:05.69\00:47:08.02
and I need that
because, unlike a lot,
00:47:08.06\00:47:10.63
I'm not-- People try to
figure that out after 31 years,
00:47:10.66\00:47:13.56
I'm not very organized.
00:47:13.60\00:47:14.93
When I come to work, I
don't really have plans.
00:47:14.96\00:47:17.17
Okay, today, I got
to do boom-boom-boom,
00:47:17.20\00:47:19.67
down the line, I'll
just show up usually.
00:47:19.70\00:47:22.07
And say, okay, Lord,
what are we doing today?
00:47:22.10\00:47:24.04
And so, I can jump
from one thing to the other.
00:47:24.07\00:47:27.08
But in the meanwhile, I
forget what I'm supposed
00:47:27.11\00:47:29.58
to done over here.
00:47:29.61\00:47:30.95
So, Jill's a great...
00:47:30.98\00:47:32.31
Thank you so much for
what you're doing, organizing,
00:47:32.35\00:47:34.98
you know what I do.
00:47:35.02\00:47:36.35
Of course, I look forward
to coming here and enjoy.
00:47:36.38\00:47:38.19
Oh, yeah.
00:47:38.22\00:47:39.55
And Pastor Gilley was here,
I didn't come this, you know,
00:47:39.59\00:47:41.39
all the hours
every day, and showed up
00:47:41.42\00:47:43.22
when they
needed me to do things,
00:47:43.26\00:47:44.76
and programming here and there.
00:47:44.79\00:47:46.13
But, I've been back in
the seat for number of months,
00:47:46.16\00:47:48.46
and couldn't do
without either one of you.
00:47:48.50\00:47:50.50
Without all of you
here, because Greg,
00:47:50.53\00:47:52.90
what a tremendous responsibility
00:47:52.93\00:47:55.20
you have overtaken,
00:47:55.24\00:47:56.60
and how smooth the transition
00:47:56.64\00:47:59.04
was to be over all
the production teams,
00:47:59.07\00:48:01.51
and all the different
people that you deal with,
00:48:01.54\00:48:03.71
all the scheduling issues,
all the personals issues,
00:48:03.75\00:48:07.02
everything that goes wrong
00:48:07.05\00:48:08.38
and of course
Jill was there too.
00:48:08.42\00:48:09.85
She helps with
all the production.
00:48:09.88\00:48:11.45
She is your
right hand person too.
00:48:11.49\00:48:13.49
Oh, yeah. I'm really blessed.
00:48:13.52\00:48:14.86
So, you guys are able to
work together in the ministry,
00:48:14.89\00:48:17.23
and still speak to each other.
00:48:17.26\00:48:19.19
That's right, yeah.
00:48:19.23\00:48:20.56
That's true.
00:48:20.60\00:48:21.93
You know, that's a neat
thing too, you know, 'cause,
00:48:21.96\00:48:23.33
you know, several
years back, you know,
00:48:23.37\00:48:25.13
it's just again seeing
how God's hands involved
00:48:25.17\00:48:27.34
in everything, and how
God can take something,
00:48:27.37\00:48:29.84
that some people
may say it's bad,
00:48:29.87\00:48:31.21
and turn into
something good, you know,
00:48:31.24\00:48:33.14
'cause therefore while we
were looking at having kids,
00:48:33.17\00:48:35.08
and doctors and
things say you can't.
00:48:35.11\00:48:36.61
You know, God didn't
open that door for us.
00:48:36.64\00:48:38.55
And that's okay, you
know, and that's were, you know,
00:48:38.58\00:48:40.52
we feel God has called us
into ministry, we fill 3ABN,
00:48:40.55\00:48:43.89
you know, and so we
can work together closely,
00:48:43.92\00:48:46.42
involved together and
so, we're just very happy,
00:48:46.45\00:48:49.42
God has just
blessed us for just--
00:48:49.46\00:48:51.83
I'm gonna say
proud, can I say that
00:48:51.86\00:48:53.23
to be part of this ministry,
00:48:53.26\00:48:54.96
to be involved in God's work
to be really on the frontlines.
00:48:55.00\00:48:58.17
We got a
ministry that's on the go.
00:48:58.20\00:49:00.10
That's out there, it's just...
00:49:00.14\00:49:01.60
We talk about this
often, we're so blessed
00:49:01.64\00:49:04.11
and so humbled to be here.
00:49:04.14\00:49:05.67
It's just incredible.
00:49:05.71\00:49:07.04
Well, I can tell you, I have
been impressed for some time,
00:49:07.08\00:49:09.88
I really feel like you know,
00:49:09.91\00:49:12.61
as bad as we all hate to
admit it, time is going on,
00:49:12.65\00:49:15.38
and we're not
getting any younger and--
00:49:15.42\00:49:17.92
Don't look at me.
00:49:17.95\00:49:19.29
No, I'm just talking to you.
00:49:19.32\00:49:21.66
Not thinking about
you at all, over here but,
00:49:21.69\00:49:24.79
some of us aren't
getting any younger.
00:49:24.83\00:49:26.66
But, we need
leadership for tomorrow,
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but you don't get
leadership for tomorrow,
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if they're not doing it today.
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And so, what Greg and
Jill have brought for so long,
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in the spirituality,
you guys and your literally
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the abilities and gifts
that God has given you to work
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with people and to love people.
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And the service,
I've been impressed
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for the last two or three years,
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that you all, and
as the Lord tells me
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when or whatever
happens, I would like...
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for I'm saying
publicly that for you all to be,
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Greg you'll be
president, vice president Jill,
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because I believe God is
leading that he set this up.
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And that
something, that I'm convinced,
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I'm convinced there
are lot of things in life,
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and you know, I can't say
everything that I'm impressed
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about, it is of the
Lord, nobody can do that,
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but it surely has build a
station to reach the world.
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I believe that Greg
and Jill are sent here
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to take over
this ministry because
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they worked
literally from the ground up.
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There's nothing
that they haven't done,
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and they're here, they
know this inside and out.
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But they have
this spiritual vision
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to continue to make sure that...
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I pass along the
scene or whatever happens
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that the undiluted
Three Angels' Messages,
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one would
counteract to counterfeit
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goes into all the world.
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And so I'm convinced of
your love for the message
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that God has
given us as a church
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and a people and our
mission here at 3ABN.
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So, I'm so pleased to
know that God has people,
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you know, right
where they need to be,
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so this ministry is
dependent on one person,
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it never has been,
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not dependent on two
people or five people.
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But It's dependent on all of us.
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Those of us who work
here, those of you at home,
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because without you, we
couldn't t do anything here,
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I mean we could
sit around and talk,
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but to take the
gospel to the world,
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we thank you for your
love and your prayers,
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and financial support.
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And we're asking that
you pray and ask the Lord,
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Lord what would you have
me to do in support of 3ABN
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financially,
prayerfully, verbally by telling
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your friends,
becoming blessing on the go.
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Evangelistic team members
means you're monthly donors,
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you get your certificate,
then we send you a monthly tool,
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whether it's preaching,
teaching, music whatever,
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so you can not only
be nurtured yourself,
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but then give it to
your, friends, your neighbors.
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And it's all
about, to me, Yvonne,
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it's preparation
for Jesus to come back.
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There has to be a
latter rain experience
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and why not start here?
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Why not now? Why
not where you are?
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So, before that happens,
we have to submit and commit
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our lives to the Lord,
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and we have to catch the vision
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of take this
gospel to the kingdom
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into all the world,
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before we can share with others.
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Once we get it,
once we accept it,
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then when we speak,
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you said, "Your mother changed,"
00:52:07.42\00:52:09.06
Jesus says, "If I be lifted
up will draw all men unto me."
00:52:09.09\00:52:12.59
You recognized Jesus
coming out of your mother.
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Didn't mean your mother
was perfect from that day on,
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but she caught it,
00:52:17.27\00:52:18.60
she caught that relationship
with the Lord Jesus Christ
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so, you know,
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I thank you guys for what you do
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and what we've
seen in leadership
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for so many years.
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And I feel like
3ABN's is in good hands,
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you know, even now because
it's not like, I'm gonna do.
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I love to have Greg and
Jill in almost on any meetings
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that we're
having, business wise,
00:52:37.65\00:52:39.45
'cause I want you to see,
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you know, what we
do, and how we operate,
00:52:41.02\00:52:43.36
and how we deal with
people, whether it's business,
00:52:43.39\00:52:46.19
whether it's on spiritual plain,
00:52:46.23\00:52:47.56
whatever and they
come in, and he says,
00:52:47.60\00:52:50.07
"He likes to learn", but
I can learn from him too.
00:52:50.10\00:52:52.30
And I learnt from
both of them actually so.
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Well, you know, the
thought of is overwhelming
00:52:54.60\00:52:57.04
now to think about taking
on, you know, more leadership,
00:52:57.07\00:52:58.87
but I know that
God provides, you know,
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whatever our needs are.
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But I'm-- You know,
I will pray though that
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you live basically
forever, you stay here forever
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until the Lord
Jesus Christ comes.
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Yeah.
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Well, even if the Lord tarries,
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you know, at a
certain age I feel like people
00:53:12.89\00:53:14.82
need to back away
and let people live.
00:53:14.86\00:53:16.69
Because we don't
always think straight,
00:53:16.73\00:53:18.16
and no one wants to tell
us, you know, so we're already,
00:53:18.19\00:53:22.50
I'm telling you, I'm
not gonna be one of those
00:53:22.53\00:53:23.90
who wants to hang on forever,
00:53:23.93\00:53:25.37
I'll be here as long as
God gives me breath and health,
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I'll be here to
support you in every way I can,
00:53:28.27\00:53:30.74
and support the folk at home,
00:53:30.77\00:53:32.64
and not planning
on going anywhere,
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but hey it's not up to me.
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We're going to go to newsbreak.
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