I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today,
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My name is C.A. Murray
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and thank you for
joining us once again
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for a very special
3ABN Today broadcast.
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One of the
things that we often say
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that we really like
about going to large gatherings
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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like a General
Conference or an ASI or a GYC,
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meetings of that nature.
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You run into and you
meet a large number of people
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who are doing so many
different kinds of ministries
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for the cause of Christ.
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Some are supported
directly by the church
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through different organizations.
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Others are
independent ministries
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that are supporting ministries
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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like Three Angels'
Broadcasting Network,
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but there are
hundreds of ministries,
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and some are very
specific niche ministries
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that if these
ministers were not operating,
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I doubt the gospel will
be getting to that population
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in just that particular way,
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so we're gonna meet
some of those today.
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We get to meet some people
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who are doing some
great things for the Lord.
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And first up, we
want to go and...
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To the country of
Bangladesh as it were,
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as Shelley Quinn
had a chance to meet
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with Dr. M. Ju Lee
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and Dr. Chongho Yang.
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Dr. Lee is President of
the Adventist Union Mission,
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and Dr. Chongho Yang is
the college president there
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and the seminary president there
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and they've a very, very
exciting story for us just now.
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Again, here we are on
the floor at the exhibit hall
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and with us in
the booth now is...
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We have to gentlemen actually,
we have Chung Ho Young,
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Dr. Chung ho young
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who is the
President of the Bangladesh
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Adventist Seminary and College.
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And then we also have M.J. Lee,
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who is the President of
the Bangladesh Union Mission
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of Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Gentlemen, thank you so
much for being here today.
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Thank you. Thank you so much.
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And Dr. Lee, I would
like to start with you.
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Please, for our
viewers, would you...
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some people are not
that familiar with Bangladesh
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and with the area,
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tell us a little of
the socio-economic part?
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Okay.
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Bangladesh is
located at 10/40 window,
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exactly in the
center of the land
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having 160 million people.
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A hundred and
sixty million? Wow.
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Yeah, very big population,
90 percent is Muslim,
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9 percent is Hinduism,
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only one percent
is other religion,
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but Christianity is
only 0.3, very small group.
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Also, economic
situation, as we know,
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Bangladesh is one of
the very poorest countries,
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there are many, many challenges.
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Yeah. Yes.
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And how long have
you been in Bangladesh?
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Oh, yeah.
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By the grace of God,
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now I have been serving
our church about 10 years.
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All right.
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And you
actually began with Dr...
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You had Dr.
Yang's position at first,
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you were the president
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for the Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College
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and then you became
the Union President, right?
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Yeah.
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So you knew...
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You mentioned to me
that one of the goals
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of the Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College,
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has been for a long time,
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you knew you
needed a nursing school.
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Why did you feel, you
needed a nursing school?
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Actually, as we know,
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Bangladesh is very poor country,
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there are many people
who are sick because of,
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you know, hygienic
problem, but many poor people,
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they are not able
to go to the hospital.
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So when we
establish a nursing school,
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we can support many things
to the poor people, usually.
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Also, in Bangladesh,
education is very important,
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so when we produce
many nursing students,
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it can be also one of the center
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of influences in our school.
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Also, in Bangladesh one nurse,
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there are three medical doctors.
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It means, there are
many medical doctors,
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but we are lacking many nurses,
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that's why from the
beginning our church members,
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they have been praying
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to establish nursing
school in our college,
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but at the
beginning, by the grace of God,
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now we are
building academic building
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from General Conference,
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Thirteen
Sabbaths School Project,
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some fund is coming,
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we will establish
academic building at first,
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but in future, so soon we hope
to establish nursing school.
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Dr. Yang, this is a
very exciting project.
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How long have you been
at the Bangladesh Seminary?
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It is almost two years
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since I have served
as college president
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for Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College.
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As Dr. Lee, our Bangladesh
Union President mentioned,
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there are three reasons
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why we really need to establish
nursing college at campus
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of Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College.
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Number one,
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there is a desperate
need for nurses in Bangladesh.
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As Dr. Lee mentioned,
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three medical doctors have
only one nurse in Bangladesh,
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that's why...
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That's amazing to...
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to try to comprehend
because it's quite...
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it's just about the
reverse ratio in United States,
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one doctor will
have three nurses,
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but here, three
doctors share one nurse.
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You are right. That's amazing.
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That's why Prime Minister Hasina
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of Bangladesh,
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some weeks ago pronounced
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that our country needs
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10,000 nurses every year.
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So when we
establish nursing college
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at the campus of Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College,
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which is called BASC
in short terminology,
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then we can provide
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many Adventist
nurses to our country
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which has 160 million people
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and it will surely
enhance the national health
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and welfare of the country.
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And... Go ahead.
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And reason number two,
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BASC has three departments
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such as theology
department for future pastors
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and education
department for future teachers
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and business administration
for future treasurers
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and business
managers and top managements,
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but we don't have
any science department.
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So if we
establish nursing college
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at the campus of BASC,
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it will surely enhance
solid Adventist education
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in 10/40 Window territory.
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And number three,
which is very important,
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even though the former
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two reasons are
important as well,
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this nursing
college will enhance
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the mission of the
church in Bangladesh and beyond.
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In Islam dominant
country such as Bangladesh,
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as Dr. Lee mentioned,
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we cannot preach in the streets.
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We cannot hand out tracks
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and hand out
Three Angels' Messages
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in everywhere, no.
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But in the campus
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we can teach the
scripture and Jesus Christ.
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So when we
establish nursing college,
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we can train our young people
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with the
scriptures and Jesus Christ
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and we can train them
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as faithful
witnesses of Jesus Christ
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to our Bangladesh and beyond.
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And the
interesting thing is this,
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the 60 percent
of the total income
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of the country Bangladesh is
the money sent from overseas.
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Sixty percent?
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Sixty percent,
because Bangladesh
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has no little natural resources,
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no traveling resources,
Bangladesh has no resources,
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but human
resources in a small land.
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So many young people go
out overseas and work there
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and they send the
money to Bangladesh,
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to their families
and their loved ones.
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So if we establish
our nursing college,
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then many nurses
may work in Bangladesh,
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but some nurses
may go out and work,
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sharing the
Three Angels' Messages
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in Middle East and other areas.
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Remember that
the total Muslims are
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1.7 billion in the world.
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So this has a
tremendous, significant impact.
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You know, we've
said it several times
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on these very
interviews that God...
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Jesus isn't going
to return till we reach
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every nation, tongue, and tribe,
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and that includes
1.7 billion Muslims.
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So you have you begun...
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It's wonderful to know
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where our 13th
quarter offering is going
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and it has gone to develop...
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start the building
for the nursing school
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at the Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College.
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Has the actual
construction begun?
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Yes. Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College
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fund raised $150,000
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and our Southern Asia Pacific
division heard about this
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and SSD made an action
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to support this project
from a 13th Sabbath offering
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with $100,000 already
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and then the total
budget is $525,000,
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and we are waiting
for another $150,000
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from SSD and GYC,
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but we still need three hundred
something thousand US dollars
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and we firmly believe
that God will provide.
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Amen. Amen.
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If somebody wanted
to donate toward this,
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what would be the
website that they would go to?
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Yeah.
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Our well
wishers around the world
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can communicate
with me as email address
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yangchongho@gmail.com.
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Or drpeteryang3004@gmail.com.
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That's okay, go ahead.
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drpeteryang3004@gmail.com.
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Then I can give the
information about the donation.
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We really need our
world churches' prayer
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and support
including financial support.
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Amen.
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What is your
student population right now
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at the Bangladesh
Adventist Seminary and College?
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BASC has 800 students.
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That's amazing.
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Yes.
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We have 250 college students,
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340 high school students,
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and about 200
elementary school students.
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Now, they obviously know
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that you're a Christian
organization in the area,
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you're not hiding the church
or the name of the church,
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you're the
Bangladesh Adventist Theology.
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How do people in the
local area receive you?
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Because we provide
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free medical
service and dental service
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from many parts of
the world as volunteers,
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just some dentists,
and doctors, and nurses,
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and the volunteers come
to Bangladesh and serve,
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so our local people
are very much fond of BASC,
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they love BASC so much
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and the atmosphere is
so sweet and friendly.
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Oh, that's wonderful.
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Well, trust me that
you will have our prayers
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and it's a very worthy cause.
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So you've got about 300,000
more that needs to come in.
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You've started the building,
this construction has begun
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and do you have
a specific deadline
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that you're looking
to try to complete this
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or just as the Lord provides?
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Yes, that's a good question.
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We are planning to
finish constructing
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our academic building,
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which will be used for
nursing college building
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in the near future
by the end of this year,
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but at least by the
end of April 2016...
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Can I intervene?
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Surely.
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Next year, except this building
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we're going to
finish three multi...
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auditorium, 2,000
people can be accommodated
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and another is in our
nursing school dormitory
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and also academic building.
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In the future, it'll be
nursing school building.
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Next year,
Bangladesh will be 110 years
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of Three Angels'
Message in our celebration year.
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Already, orally I invited
G.C. President Elder Ted Wilson
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to come and to inaugurate.
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At that time, I think
it'll be very glorious time
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if we inaugurate all
the things, three things.
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Amen.
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Well, gentlemen... Go ahead.
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If Pastor Ted
Wilson comes to Bangladesh
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and bless our people
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and give encouragement
to our Bangladesh people
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it will be a
great spiritual heritage
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to our young people
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and we'll be
very much encouraged.
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Amen.
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Well, I just want to
thank you, Dr. Yang and Dr. Lee
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for the work that
you're doing there.
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And for those of you at home,
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if you would be interested
00:17:04.35\00:17:05.69
in supporting
this project further,
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you can contact Dr.
Yang at D-R for doctor,
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D-R-Peter Yang, yang@...
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Oh excuse me...
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and drpeteryang3004@gmail.com,
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and please be
praying for this project
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and for all that
the church is doing
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throughout the 10/40 Window.
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Thank you.
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Wow, what a
powerful, powerful testimony.
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Next up, Edward Saint Fleur
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operates a radio
station on the island of Haiti,
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only running five hours a day
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because of the
intermittent power blackouts,
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needs a solar panel
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so that it can run 24
hours and preach the gospel.
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Shelley had a
chance to talk with him
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about precisely that.
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Hi, we're coming to you again
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from the convention
floor here at San Antonio
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and joining us in our
production booth today
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is Pastor Edward Saint Fluer.
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He is pastoring in the Bahamas,
but his ministry is in Haiti
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and you're going
to enjoy this story.
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Edward, we actually
interviewed you five years ago
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at the last GC conference
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and you were doing
something special there in Haiti
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and now you've
expanded that ministry,
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but before we talk about
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the voice of the
Three Angels' radio station,
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let's get to know
you just a little bit.
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Where were you born
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and how did you become a pastor?
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Thank you very much, Shelley,
for the opportunity to share
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and I praise the Lord for 3ABN
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and what it is
doing around the world.
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I was born in
L'Ile de la Tortue,
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Tortuga island, Haiti.
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It's located in the
northwest part of the country.
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I migrated to
the Bahamas in 1981,
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but all of my life I've
been a Seventh-day Adventist.
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My Great grandfather
was the first Adventist
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on that particular island.
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Wonderful, wonderful.
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So you've been pastoring
now for how many years?
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I've been pastoring
for the past 16 years
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with the South Bahamas
Conference in Nassau, Bahamas.
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And you have two churches?
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That's correct,
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that's the
Francophone and New Englerston
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Seventh-day
Adventist church in Nassau.
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And he also has
three beautiful girls.
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That is correct. And one wife.
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And one lovely wife.
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Okay, now you... with...
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a pastor who has two churches
surely has a plate full.
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How did you end up going back
to your home country in Haiti
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to start a ministry?
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Well, every year
during my vacation time,
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I go to Haiti with the
hope of giving back to my roots,
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basically to
empower and encourage
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and to spread the
gospel in my homeland.
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It's a pleasure.
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What is the population of Haiti?
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It's about 10 million
people living in Haiti.
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And there's, what,
400,000 Adventists, I believe.
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That is correct,
400,000 Adventists.
00:20:28.96\00:20:31.99
But the primary belief
system of the Haitians is what?
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It's between
Catholicism and Voodooism.
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And Voodooism,
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so there's a lot of
witchcraft practiced in Haiti?
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That is correct. All right.
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How did God call you?
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I know that you
heard the call of the Lord
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to do something special
in Haiti, tell us about that?
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It was back in 2006,
someone came to me and said,
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the Lord is asking me to do
00:21:02.69\00:21:05.59
a fast for the country of Haiti.
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My wife and I, we conducted
that fast, September 26, 2006.
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Subsequent to that
the Lord spoke to me,
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he impressed me to
purchase a property
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to set up a radio station
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so that light could
get into the country
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to dispel the
darkness of witchcraft.
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Amen. Amen. Yes.
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Now you actually went to Haiti
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and performed like a
medical missionary training
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before the
earthquake, is that correct?
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That is correct.
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That was 2009,
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approximately six
months prior to the earthquake.
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A team from Wildwood
Lifestyle Center accompanied me,
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we spent four
weeks in the country.
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We conducted training
for some 75 young persons,
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giving them basic
lifestyle training
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with the acronym
NEWSTART, all right.
00:22:01.45\00:22:04.15
And we conducted two
small evangelistic campaign
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which yielded to 11 precious
souls to the glory of God.
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Wonderful.
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You had already purchased
the land at that point.
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When... after the earthquake
when did you actually...
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It was after the earthquake
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that you actually
began broadcasting,
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is that correct?
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Exactly.
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It was July 11, 2011,
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which means this
is the fourth year
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since we've been
broadcasting in Haiti.
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We're actually
broadcasting in someone's home.
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Our building is
still under construction.
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Now you're on the isle
of the turtle, La Tortue...
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La Tortue, you're doing well.
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Tell me what is
this island like?
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Your signal reaches...
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it has a footprint
of how many people?
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Did you say 2 million
that your signal can reach.
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Yes, we're actually broadcasting
00:23:01.48\00:23:04.01
from the island
reaching Cap-Haitien,
00:23:04.05\00:23:05.98
which is in the north.
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Some section in
central called Bas Laleau,
00:23:07.55\00:23:10.85
and north west
Mole Saint-Nicholas,
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which is the place
that Columbus landed
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December 5, 1492.
00:23:16.96\00:23:19.09
So our signal
reaches that vast territory
00:23:19.13\00:23:22.16
covering over 2 million people.
00:23:22.20\00:23:24.33
Wonderful.
00:23:24.37\00:23:25.70
And what are the results
00:23:25.73\00:23:27.07
since you've
started broadcasting?
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You actually do
Sabbath school lessons,
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you're broadcasting
how many hours a day?
00:23:32.24\00:23:35.34
Presently we
operate 5 hours a day,
00:23:35.38\00:23:38.61
simply because of energy.
00:23:38.65\00:23:40.65
There is no
electricity on the island,
00:23:40.68\00:23:43.59
so we're using a
regular generator.
00:23:43.62\00:23:46.99
And gasoline could be expensive
to run a radio station.
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So we're basically
operating 5 hours a day.
00:23:52.13\00:23:55.36
But the result
has been fantastic.
00:23:55.40\00:23:58.07
And number of persons who
left the church began to return.
00:23:58.10\00:24:02.24
So that is why we keep
going almost every year,
00:24:02.27\00:24:05.64
going to conduct
evangelistic outreach
00:24:05.67\00:24:08.24
and encourage the brethren.
00:24:08.28\00:24:10.65
And with regards to
the Sabbath school lesson,
00:24:10.68\00:24:13.48
a number of persons cannot read
00:24:13.52\00:24:16.18
are not able to
purchase the quarterlies
00:24:16.22\00:24:18.75
So what we do every morning
is do the Sabbath school lesson
00:24:18.79\00:24:22.49
and they listen with
their battery operated radio.
00:24:22.52\00:24:25.69
So by the time they
go to Sabbath school,
00:24:25.73\00:24:29.10
the teacher asks,
00:24:29.13\00:24:30.47
how many followed
their daily lesson plan
00:24:30.50\00:24:31.87
and they raise their hand.
00:24:31.90\00:24:33.23
The teacher is like, how?
00:24:33.27\00:24:34.94
They say, well, we
listen to the radio station,
00:24:34.97\00:24:37.67
the voice of the three angels.
00:24:37.71\00:24:40.64
We listen, so
we're able to study
00:24:40.68\00:24:44.25
and to follow the
daily lesson plan.
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The challenge is
00:24:47.45\00:24:49.42
to stay on the air
for long period of time.
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And there are countries
where people have access
00:24:52.85\00:24:55.89
to the Sabbath school
lesson, but some do not study.
00:24:55.92\00:24:58.73
Yes.
00:24:58.76\00:25:00.10
But yet these people,
only through the radio station,
00:25:00.13\00:25:04.47
they are studying,
00:25:04.50\00:25:05.83
so we want to continue that
00:25:05.87\00:25:07.20
and to grow further
to spread the gospel.
00:25:07.24\00:25:10.21
Pastor St. Fleur,
it's not only people
00:25:10.24\00:25:13.78
who formerly were
Adventists have left the church
00:25:13.81\00:25:16.48
and returning to the church,
00:25:16.51\00:25:18.35
but you're actually
seeing a lot of conversions
00:25:18.38\00:25:21.82
because of the Voice of
the Three Angels radio station.
00:25:21.85\00:25:26.69
The churches are
growing, people are learning,
00:25:26.72\00:25:30.19
but let's talk about
where you're at as a ministry.
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It's been four years now,
00:25:33.83\00:25:35.16
you're broadcasting
out of someone's home,
00:25:35.20\00:25:39.27
what is it that you want to do?
00:25:39.30\00:25:41.87
You've purchased this land,
00:25:41.90\00:25:43.24
Had you begun to build it yet?
00:25:43.27\00:25:45.31
Yes, as I mentioned
00:25:45.34\00:25:47.18
we've been broadcasting
in someone's home now
00:25:47.21\00:25:50.21
for the past four years.
00:25:50.25\00:25:52.05
Our building is
still under construction.
00:25:52.08\00:25:55.08
Our greatest
need for the present
00:25:55.12\00:25:57.59
is to equip the
station with energy,
00:25:57.62\00:26:01.09
alternative means of energy
00:26:01.12\00:26:03.43
instead of using the generator.
00:26:03.46\00:26:06.46
If we could acquire
00:26:06.49\00:26:09.30
either solar panel and windmill
00:26:09.33\00:26:12.33
so that we can
power up the station.
00:26:12.37\00:26:15.00
We'll be
staying on the air 24/7,
00:26:15.04\00:26:18.01
that is my goal,
that is my dream.
00:26:18.04\00:26:19.91
So the first thing is to equip
the station with a solar panel
00:26:19.94\00:26:24.38
and the second thing
00:26:24.41\00:26:25.75
is to be able to put
the roof on the building
00:26:25.78\00:26:28.88
and the furnishing so
that we can move the station
00:26:28.92\00:26:31.69
from the private
residence to its own location.
00:26:31.72\00:26:34.99
So you already have
the building sides...
00:26:35.02\00:26:38.83
That is correct.
00:26:38.86\00:26:40.20
You just need the roof
and the alternative power.
00:26:40.23\00:26:45.10
That is correct.
00:26:45.13\00:26:46.47
And if there are
volunteer persons
00:26:46.50\00:26:48.37
who are interested in
supporting such project,
00:26:48.40\00:26:52.27
you know, they can
reach and make contact with us
00:26:52.31\00:26:54.74
and we'll be able to guide them.
00:26:54.78\00:26:58.48
In fact, some years,
I'm not able to go to Haiti,
00:26:58.51\00:27:02.78
I still organize mission trip
00:27:02.82\00:27:05.29
and have persons
waiting to receive them
00:27:05.32\00:27:08.06
and they just
go in the territory
00:27:08.09\00:27:09.62
and begin to do their work.
00:27:09.66\00:27:12.33
Amen. I wanted...
00:27:12.36\00:27:14.30
You shared
something just before we came
00:27:14.33\00:27:16.83
to sit in these seats,
00:27:16.87\00:27:18.20
about your last
evangelistic effort over there
00:27:18.23\00:27:21.40
because the broadcasting
00:27:21.44\00:27:24.31
which is getting the
attention of the locals,
00:27:24.34\00:27:26.78
2 million people
potential audience,
00:27:26.81\00:27:29.54
but he goes over
for a reaping harvest
00:27:29.58\00:27:32.65
and you actually...
00:27:32.68\00:27:35.42
This is an area
00:27:35.45\00:27:36.79
where the satanic
works are going on,
00:27:36.82\00:27:39.99
there's a lot of
witchcraft going on.
00:27:40.02\00:27:42.99
You actually experienced
a very severe satanic attack
00:27:43.02\00:27:47.50
during your last
series, didn't you?
00:27:47.53\00:27:49.60
That's correct.
00:27:49.63\00:27:50.97
It was last year August,
before I went, the vision
00:27:51.00\00:27:53.84
was for me to
present the Ten Commandments.
00:27:53.87\00:27:57.04
And we started August
13th, it was a Wednesday night,
00:27:57.07\00:28:03.55
to August 23rd.
00:28:03.58\00:28:05.71
Every night based
on the instructions
00:28:05.75\00:28:08.52
that I felt that I
received from the Lord
00:28:08.55\00:28:10.39
was to preach
only one commandment.
00:28:10.42\00:28:12.52
We began with
commandment number one.
00:28:12.55\00:28:14.82
When I preach on
commandment number two,
00:28:14.86\00:28:18.33
which deals with graven images.
00:28:18.36\00:28:21.36
As you know, Haiti
has a lot of images
00:28:21.40\00:28:24.50
and different
idolatry basically,
00:28:24.53\00:28:28.60
when I preach on
that commandment,
00:28:28.64\00:28:30.54
the devil was upset.
00:28:30.57\00:28:32.27
At the end of the service,
00:28:32.31\00:28:33.64
when I went home
to my mother's house,
00:28:33.68\00:28:35.71
I had to walk in the
dark after the service.
00:28:35.74\00:28:38.31
The devil actually
came and attacked the house
00:28:38.35\00:28:40.68
where I was staying
00:28:40.72\00:28:42.05
and number of roaches
came over the building
00:28:42.08\00:28:45.59
and some came
inside the building.
00:28:45.62\00:28:47.79
And I just got up
and killed a few of them
00:28:47.82\00:28:50.43
and the others,
they just disappeared.
00:28:50.46\00:28:53.56
Don't know how they got in,
didn't know how they got out,
00:28:53.60\00:28:58.27
but the Lord
gave us the victory.
00:28:58.30\00:29:00.97
I know God is with this ministry
00:29:01.00\00:29:03.44
based on the victories
we have experienced so far.
00:29:03.47\00:29:06.54
Amen.
00:29:06.57\00:29:07.91
I think it's precious
00:29:07.94\00:29:09.28
that you're going
back to the country...
00:29:09.31\00:29:11.21
I mean the Bahamas
is a beautiful area,
00:29:11.25\00:29:13.45
you're going back to an
area that is also lovely,
00:29:13.48\00:29:17.95
but making a slow
recovery from the earthquake
00:29:17.99\00:29:22.12
in an area of such great need
00:29:22.16\00:29:24.03
and I think it's precious
00:29:24.06\00:29:25.49
that you're going back to
give back to your country.
00:29:25.53\00:29:28.90
Now we're going to give you
00:29:28.93\00:29:31.97
an email address
in just a moment,
00:29:32.00\00:29:33.94
but what are some
of the other things
00:29:33.97\00:29:36.71
that you have in the future.
00:29:36.74\00:29:38.64
Right now the great need
00:29:38.67\00:29:40.08
is to find the
alternative power,
00:29:40.11\00:29:41.81
get a roof over this
00:29:41.84\00:29:43.45
so that you can actually
start broadcasting 24/7.
00:29:43.48\00:29:47.62
But what are some
of the other visions
00:29:47.65\00:29:49.52
you have for the future.
00:29:49.55\00:29:51.19
In addition to
the radio station,
00:29:51.22\00:29:53.25
there are four other
projects in our minds.
00:29:53.29\00:29:56.93
One is school,
00:29:56.96\00:30:00.26
to be able to provide
some basic discipline,
00:30:00.30\00:30:04.33
like nursing, education,
and agriculture and fisheries
00:30:04.37\00:30:08.94
that are much...
00:30:08.97\00:30:11.11
Very much needed on the island.
00:30:11.14\00:30:13.38
The other thing is the
business empowerment center.
00:30:13.41\00:30:16.91
There are
thousands of young people
00:30:16.95\00:30:20.15
after high school
have nothing to do.
00:30:20.18\00:30:22.55
We want to be able to
train them and empower them
00:30:22.58\00:30:26.05
because they need the skill
00:30:26.09\00:30:27.69
so that they can work
and to feed themselves
00:30:27.72\00:30:31.03
and to support their families.
00:30:31.06\00:30:32.93
And in addition to the school,
00:30:32.96\00:30:34.90
the business empowerment center,
00:30:34.93\00:30:37.07
a clinic or
healthy lifestyle center,
00:30:37.10\00:30:40.74
we would like to
establish on the island
00:30:40.77\00:30:43.10
for health care purposes.
00:30:43.14\00:30:45.44
And finally, a missionary home,
so when you come to the island,
00:30:45.47\00:30:50.25
you'll have a place to go
00:30:50.28\00:30:52.05
with almost some of
the similar amenities
00:30:52.08\00:30:55.92
that you are accustomed to
00:30:55.95\00:30:57.75
or anybody else who
wishes to come to the island.
00:30:57.79\00:31:01.42
Well, praise God for
calling you there and He...
00:31:01.46\00:31:05.86
You know, the people of
Haiti are precious people,
00:31:05.89\00:31:10.37
but they've been living
in darkness for a long time.
00:31:10.40\00:31:13.50
And 400,000
Adventists, that's a good start,
00:31:13.54\00:31:17.07
but there's 10 million people
that need to hear this message.
00:31:17.11\00:31:20.48
So we just thank you so much
for the work that you're doing.
00:31:20.51\00:31:23.98
And for those of you at home
00:31:24.01\00:31:25.35
let me give you
an email address,
00:31:25.38\00:31:27.05
if you would like to
contact Pastor Edward St. Fleur,
00:31:27.08\00:31:31.79
you can contact him to
come down on a mission trip,
00:31:31.82\00:31:34.49
maybe you can
come down and help,
00:31:34.52\00:31:37.19
you know, you've got a
construction background
00:31:37.23\00:31:39.59
and you can come help
put a roof on this building
00:31:39.63\00:31:43.57
for the radio station,
00:31:43.60\00:31:45.20
or perhaps you know
00:31:45.23\00:31:47.04
something about
alternative energy,
00:31:47.07\00:31:48.90
about solar powers,
the panels and windmills,
00:31:48.94\00:31:52.64
you can contact him at E-S
for his name Edward St. Fleur,
00:31:52.67\00:31:58.48
E-S la Tortue,
which means the turtle,
00:31:58.51\00:32:02.48
E-S, la,
00:32:02.52\00:32:03.85
L-A-T-O-R-T-U-E@gmail.com.
00:32:03.89\00:32:10.13
And if the Lord's impressing
you to support this ministry,
00:32:10.16\00:32:14.00
it is a non-profit organization
00:32:14.03\00:32:16.67
and I know that
God wants to reach
00:32:16.70\00:32:20.74
the many people there in Haiti.
00:32:20.77\00:32:22.80
Thank you so much,
Brother, for being here today
00:32:22.84\00:32:25.21
and thank you for the
work that you're doing.
00:32:25.24\00:32:27.21
Praise the Lord,
thank you for having me.
00:32:27.24\00:32:29.14
Yes.
00:32:29.18\00:32:31.45
There are many
people around the world
00:32:31.48\00:32:33.58
who only receive their
gospel through the radio,
00:32:33.62\00:32:37.42
as far reaching as 3ABN is
and we like to accept the fact
00:32:37.45\00:32:42.89
that God has called
us to reach the world,
00:32:42.92\00:32:44.56
there are many that only
get their gospel through radio
00:32:44.59\00:32:47.20
and through private or
personal radio stations.
00:32:47.23\00:32:50.53
So people like Edward St. Fleur
00:32:50.57\00:32:54.00
are doing a great
work for the Lord,
00:32:54.04\00:32:55.97
getting the gospel out,
00:32:56.00\00:32:57.51
many times using
content from 3ABN to do that
00:32:57.54\00:33:00.78
and so we're so
happy to partner with them.
00:33:00.81\00:33:02.84
Up next, Conrad
Vine and Marc Coleman.
00:33:02.88\00:33:05.61
We talked about
niche ministries,
00:33:05.65\00:33:07.22
little ministries that target
particular groups of people,
00:33:07.25\00:33:10.32
this is one,
Shelley Quinn had a chance
00:33:10.35\00:33:11.92
to talk with these two men
00:33:11.95\00:33:13.29
who represent
Adventist Frontier Mission,
00:33:13.32\00:33:16.39
they're building
showers for refugees in Iran,
00:33:16.42\00:33:21.66
these are female refugees
00:33:21.70\00:33:23.26
and this is a
very specific ministry.
00:33:23.30\00:33:25.63
This is a very
interesting story.
00:33:25.67\00:33:27.00
Hello, I'm Shelley
Quinn, we're coming to you
00:33:30.64\00:33:33.27
from the hall of
the convention center
00:33:33.31\00:33:35.88
here at the 2015
quinquennial GC conference.
00:33:35.91\00:33:40.48
And today we have
with us Conrad Vine
00:33:40.52\00:33:43.39
who is President of
Adventist Frontier Missions,
00:33:43.42\00:33:46.09
we also have Marc Coleman
00:33:46.12\00:33:47.72
who is the
International Field Director
00:33:47.76\00:33:50.23
for Adventist Frontier Missions.
00:33:50.26\00:33:52.26
And before we tell you of
the wonderful work AFM is doing,
00:33:52.29\00:33:55.80
I just wanted to let you
get to know these gentlemen
00:33:55.83\00:33:58.97
on an individual basis.
00:33:59.00\00:34:00.74
Conrad, thank you so much
for being with us here today.
00:34:00.77\00:34:04.24
Please, just
share with our viewers
00:34:04.27\00:34:06.27
a little of your
fascinating history.
00:34:06.31\00:34:08.84
Well, it's a pleasure
to be talking with you
00:34:08.88\00:34:10.51
this morning, Shelley.
00:34:10.55\00:34:11.91
I was raised in England,
which explains my accent.
00:34:11.95\00:34:16.05
My father was a pastor.
00:34:16.08\00:34:18.25
I come from a
family of seven pastors
00:34:18.29\00:34:20.92
and my twin brother
is a pastor as well.
00:34:20.96\00:34:23.26
And God led me to
serve with A.D.R.A.
00:34:23.29\00:34:26.16
for ten years in Central Asia
00:34:26.19\00:34:28.66
in places such as Azerbaijan,
Tajikistan, and Afghanistan,
00:34:28.70\00:34:32.63
it brought me a wonderful wife
out in the former Soviet Union,
00:34:32.67\00:34:35.77
she was raised a communist.
00:34:35.80\00:34:37.94
When communism collapsed,
00:34:37.97\00:34:39.64
she gave her
life to Jesus Christ.
00:34:39.67\00:34:42.04
And just a few years ago,
her family were also baptized
00:34:42.08\00:34:45.01
into the Adventist faith.
00:34:45.05\00:34:46.68
And over the last ten years,
00:34:46.72\00:34:48.48
I've been serving
as an ordained pastor
00:34:48.52\00:34:50.32
in Britain and
Northern Minnesota,
00:34:50.35\00:34:52.65
and now I served with
Adventist Frontier Missions.
00:34:52.69\00:34:55.56
And how long have
you been with AFM?
00:34:55.59\00:34:58.89
I've been serving since
2011, so four years now.
00:34:58.93\00:35:02.06
All right, and
you are president.
00:35:02.10\00:35:03.43
Well, we're very
glad to have you here.
00:35:03.47\00:35:05.03
Thank you.
00:35:05.07\00:35:06.40
And Marc Coleman, tell us
a little of your background.
00:35:06.43\00:35:09.10
Sure, my name, as
you said Marc Coleman.
00:35:09.14\00:35:12.37
I grew up in a
small town in Ohio.
00:35:12.41\00:35:15.61
I always wanted
to do mission work,
00:35:15.64\00:35:17.61
just had a
burden to be overseas,
00:35:17.65\00:35:20.78
to travel and to
share the gospel,
00:35:20.82\00:35:23.22
something that I
always wanted to do.
00:35:23.25\00:35:26.59
I'm a pastor by profession.
00:35:26.62\00:35:28.89
I've pastored in
Virginia and in Pennsylvania.
00:35:28.92\00:35:32.29
But while pastoring...
00:35:32.33\00:35:33.66
actually was a Bible
worker before I was a pastor,
00:35:33.70\00:35:36.16
I had an
opportunity to meet refugees
00:35:36.20\00:35:39.23
where I was working door to door
00:35:39.27\00:35:41.17
actually in the city
of Seattle, Washington,
00:35:41.20\00:35:43.57
and while there I was impressed
00:35:43.61\00:35:46.51
that I needed to become involved
00:35:46.54\00:35:47.88
in a more
tangible way in their lives
00:35:47.91\00:35:50.08
and through prayer
00:35:50.11\00:35:51.45
and just a series
of providential events
00:35:51.48\00:35:53.92
ended up in the mission
field with my newly wed wife
00:35:53.95\00:35:58.29
working in refugee
camps in Southeast Asia
00:35:58.32\00:36:00.99
at the end of
the Indo-China war.
00:36:01.02\00:36:03.96
And we came back
from five years there
00:36:03.99\00:36:06.70
and pastored for
several years in the States
00:36:06.73\00:36:08.70
and ended up going
back to the mission field
00:36:08.73\00:36:10.90
for ten years in West Africa.
00:36:10.93\00:36:12.63
So serving in
the mission fields,
00:36:12.67\00:36:16.14
sharing the gospel is something
00:36:16.17\00:36:17.51
that's in our blood.
00:36:17.54\00:36:18.87
We have two daughters
who grew up in West Africa
00:36:18.91\00:36:21.24
and just a privilege
00:36:21.28\00:36:22.61
to serve and support
missionaries around the world.
00:36:22.64\00:36:24.78
Now you got your
Ph.D. in missiology from...
00:36:24.81\00:36:28.45
From the school in South Africa
00:36:28.48\00:36:30.35
while we were
serving in the mission field.
00:36:30.39\00:36:31.89
Praise the Lord.
00:36:31.92\00:36:33.25
So shuttled back and
forth between West Africa
00:36:33.29\00:36:34.62
where we were serving
in Guinea to South Africa.
00:36:34.66\00:36:37.23
Had the opportunity, kind of,
00:36:37.26\00:36:38.59
to wrestle
through mission issues
00:36:38.63\00:36:40.30
while studying and
actually serving in the field.
00:36:40.33\00:36:43.00
So it was
really good experience.
00:36:43.03\00:36:44.37
Oh, wonderful.
00:36:44.40\00:36:45.73
We just wanted to get that
little personal testimony to...
00:36:45.77\00:36:48.87
It helps us get a
flavor of your ministry.
00:36:48.90\00:36:51.31
Now Adventist Frontier Missions
00:36:51.34\00:36:53.61
has an
incredible refugee outreach,
00:36:53.64\00:36:56.95
please share what
you're doing in Iran?
00:36:56.98\00:37:00.98
Well, thank you.
00:37:01.02\00:37:02.58
Last July, like you,
I was watching the news
00:37:02.62\00:37:05.99
and the news of ISIS
00:37:06.02\00:37:07.66
conquering northern
Syria and northern Iraq.
00:37:07.69\00:37:10.59
And there were
pictures on our TV screens
00:37:10.63\00:37:12.89
of hundreds of thousands
of Christians, Muslims,
00:37:12.93\00:37:16.03
in inner cities
fleeing their homes.
00:37:16.06\00:37:18.43
And as I was watching the
news, I just felt moved by God
00:37:18.47\00:37:21.47
that how can I
stand by and do nothing
00:37:21.50\00:37:24.21
as God's children are suffering,
00:37:24.24\00:37:25.71
and those who
bear the name of Christ
00:37:25.74\00:37:27.14
are losing
everything for their faith.
00:37:27.18\00:37:29.44
So we prayed about it in AFM
00:37:29.48\00:37:31.28
and we spoke with
the Middle-East Union
00:37:31.31\00:37:32.88
and with A.D.R.A.
00:37:32.91\00:37:34.25
and last August, I
flew in with friends
00:37:34.28\00:37:36.95
to Erbil in northern Iraq,
it's the capital of Kurdistan,
00:37:36.99\00:37:40.66
and we started
meeting with refugees
00:37:40.69\00:37:43.32
and learning their needs.
00:37:43.36\00:37:44.99
We were only about 50
miles from the frontlines,
00:37:45.03\00:37:47.76
the situation was very tense.
00:37:47.80\00:37:50.07
We didn't know at nights
00:37:50.10\00:37:51.43
whether ISIS would
drive down the roads
00:37:51.47\00:37:53.07
and knock at the
hotel and kidnap us.
00:37:53.10\00:37:55.74
It's one of those
trips where you...
00:37:55.77\00:37:57.97
I made sure my wife
had a life insurance policy
00:37:58.01\00:38:00.31
before we left and
I left two envelopes
00:38:00.34\00:38:02.84
for my children to be read
when they were 18 years old,
00:38:02.88\00:38:06.25
if I were not to
return from that trip.
00:38:06.28\00:38:08.72
But since then, by God's grace,
00:38:08.75\00:38:10.59
and with the support
of many generous donors
00:38:10.62\00:38:12.69
including some
of 3ABN's viewers,
00:38:12.72\00:38:15.76
we've been building shower,
00:38:15.79\00:38:17.19
and latrine
blocks for women refugees
00:38:17.23\00:38:19.53
so that they can cater
00:38:19.56\00:38:21.06
for their personal hygiene needs
00:38:21.10\00:38:22.70
with privacy and in safety.
00:38:22.73\00:38:24.77
We build the
blocks within the camps
00:38:24.80\00:38:27.70
so that the women do not have
to leave the camps at nights
00:38:27.74\00:38:30.71
where they're in
danger of being trafficked
00:38:30.74\00:38:33.58
or kidnapped or
sold into sexual slavery.
00:38:33.61\00:38:36.21
And we've also been
giving out many relief items
00:38:36.24\00:38:39.35
for the women and children.
00:38:39.38\00:38:40.95
And right now we
have a missionary family
00:38:40.98\00:38:43.92
going through
training and by God's grace
00:38:43.95\00:38:46.15
they will launch later this year
00:38:46.19\00:38:48.06
and they will be
a long-term mission
00:38:48.09\00:38:49.52
presence in Kurdistan
00:38:49.56\00:38:51.26
and their job will be
to work among the refugees
00:38:51.29\00:38:54.93
to share the good news of
Jesus as the Prince of peace.
00:38:54.96\00:38:58.33
And what I've
discovered out there is that
00:38:58.37\00:39:00.27
there are many people who...
00:39:00.30\00:39:01.67
Muslims who are hurting,
00:39:01.70\00:39:03.17
they're
questioning their Muslim faith
00:39:03.20\00:39:05.27
and they're very open to
Jesus as the Prince of peace.
00:39:05.31\00:39:08.61
And so beyond the relief work,
00:39:08.64\00:39:11.21
we're looking to have an
ongoing missionary presence
00:39:11.25\00:39:14.55
to work with
people to build trust,
00:39:14.58\00:39:16.95
to share the
love of Jesus Christ
00:39:16.99\00:39:19.09
and to invite
them to follow Jesus
00:39:19.12\00:39:21.32
as their Lord and Savior.
00:39:21.36\00:39:23.26
Conrad, in these camps,
00:39:23.29\00:39:24.99
now your camp is
very close to Mosul.
00:39:25.03\00:39:28.63
I mean, it's...
00:39:28.66\00:39:30.87
Let's say the level of danger
is exceedingly high there,
00:39:30.90\00:39:34.87
but in these camps,
00:39:34.90\00:39:36.50
what is the
percentage of female versus male
00:39:36.54\00:39:40.08
and what is the
percentage of Christians?
00:39:40.11\00:39:42.31
Those are very good questions.
00:39:42.34\00:39:43.95
As a general rule,
00:39:43.98\00:39:45.31
about 70 percent of the
inhabitants of the camps
00:39:45.35\00:39:48.78
are women and children.
00:39:48.82\00:39:51.22
The men are either away fighting
00:39:51.25\00:39:53.09
or they were killed by ISIS.
00:39:53.12\00:39:55.09
And there are many, many
women who have their household,
00:39:55.12\00:39:58.63
they have multiple
children and no male relatives.
00:39:58.66\00:40:02.03
And within the camps,
you have a basic split of,
00:40:02.06\00:40:05.57
some are mostly Sunni Muslim,
00:40:05.60\00:40:08.07
some camps are mostly Yazidis,
00:40:08.10\00:40:10.97
and some are Christians.
00:40:11.01\00:40:13.34
And maybe half of the
refugees are Christians
00:40:13.38\00:40:15.98
and there were
about 1.8 million refugees
00:40:16.01\00:40:19.51
came into Kurdistan last August,
00:40:19.55\00:40:21.82
and to put it into proportion,
00:40:21.85\00:40:24.02
there are 300 million
people in the United States
00:40:24.05\00:40:26.55
and imagine if
350 million people
00:40:26.59\00:40:28.99
crossed from
Mexico into United States
00:40:29.02\00:40:31.36
in a two week period,
how would we house them?
00:40:31.39\00:40:33.83
How would we feed them?
00:40:33.86\00:40:35.33
How would we
give them healthcare?
00:40:35.36\00:40:37.23
We met women who
marched nine months pregnant
00:40:37.27\00:40:40.70
through the deserts,
00:40:40.74\00:40:42.07
they arrived in Erbil and
on the streets gave birth,
00:40:42.10\00:40:46.31
but they held their babies
with smiles, saying, we did it,
00:40:46.34\00:40:50.05
we survived, we made
it through the crisis.
00:40:50.08\00:40:52.71
And so it's just a
privilege to stand by families
00:40:52.75\00:40:55.82
who have lost everything
for the name of Jesus Christ.
00:40:55.85\00:40:58.75
And to say that as
a fellow Christian,
00:40:58.79\00:41:01.29
we're gonna stand by
in your hour of need,
00:41:01.32\00:41:03.32
but we're also going to share
00:41:03.36\00:41:04.69
the good news of Jesus
Christ with the Muslims
00:41:04.73\00:41:07.36
who are also in
the camps as well.
00:41:07.40\00:41:09.06
And how receptive are they?
00:41:09.10\00:41:12.70
Actually, right now
00:41:12.73\00:41:14.44
the Spirit of God
is being poured out
00:41:14.47\00:41:15.87
in a mighty way
in the Muslim world.
00:41:15.90\00:41:17.97
And in Kurdistan in particular,
00:41:18.01\00:41:19.64
there are many Muslims
who are open to the gospel
00:41:19.67\00:41:22.04
because they say
that ISIS are salafists,
00:41:22.08\00:41:26.21
they're very strict
form of Sunni Islam,
00:41:26.25\00:41:28.42
they're very
conservative Muslims,
00:41:28.45\00:41:30.92
you might say.
00:41:30.95\00:41:32.29
And the people are saying,
00:41:32.32\00:41:33.66
well, if this is
what strict Islam means
00:41:33.69\00:41:35.82
that you can go
and behead people
00:41:35.86\00:41:37.76
and take their
daughters into sexual slavery
00:41:37.79\00:41:40.40
and murder and rape at will,
00:41:40.43\00:41:42.10
then we want
nothing to do with this.
00:41:42.13\00:41:44.27
And so right now
while people are questioning
00:41:44.30\00:41:47.07
their Islamic heritage,
00:41:47.10\00:41:48.44
now is the time to have
missionaries on the ground
00:41:48.47\00:41:50.94
sharing the good news of
the soon returning Savior.
00:41:50.97\00:41:53.48
Now speaking of having
missionaries on the ground,
00:41:53.51\00:41:56.78
Adventist Frontier Mission
or AFM is also facilitating
00:41:56.81\00:42:02.98
what you might call
a tentmaker ministry
00:42:03.02\00:42:05.85
as Paul the
Apostle was a tentmaker
00:42:05.89\00:42:08.96
and out on the mission fields.
00:42:08.99\00:42:10.73
Tell us a little about
your tentmaker mission.
00:42:10.76\00:42:14.80
Well, we're following
the steps of the Apostle Paul
00:42:14.83\00:42:17.37
who viewed his
professional skills
00:42:17.40\00:42:19.33
as an asset to ministry.
00:42:19.37\00:42:22.07
James, John, Peter, and Andrew,
00:42:22.10\00:42:24.17
they left their
role as fishermen
00:42:24.21\00:42:26.88
and they left their profession
behind to be disciples,
00:42:26.91\00:42:29.18
but the Apostle Paul,
the greatest Apostle of all,
00:42:29.21\00:42:32.08
he uses professional skills
00:42:32.11\00:42:33.98
as an asset in
the mission field.
00:42:34.02\00:42:35.78
So we have a
tentmaker ministry in AFM
00:42:35.82\00:42:38.49
and we're trying to
invite young professionals
00:42:38.52\00:42:41.92
or experienced professional
to go to our website,
00:42:41.96\00:42:46.06
it's gotential, like
potential but with a G.
00:42:46.09\00:42:48.46
Gotential.org.
00:42:48.50\00:42:49.83
Gotential, so
potential with a G.
00:42:49.86\00:42:51.97
Gotential.org.
00:42:52.00\00:42:53.50
And there they can find
00:42:53.54\00:42:54.87
the biblical
basis for tent making.
00:42:54.90\00:42:57.01
There are many websites there
00:42:57.04\00:42:58.37
where you can find
00:42:58.41\00:42:59.74
professional
employments in the mission field
00:42:59.77\00:43:02.44
and we're encouraging people
00:43:02.48\00:43:04.08
to find professional employment,
00:43:04.11\00:43:05.85
maybe in Saudi Arabia, or China,
00:43:05.88\00:43:07.95
or Morocco, or Egypt to
use your professional skills
00:43:07.98\00:43:11.85
and find a private employer.
00:43:11.89\00:43:13.42
There are thousands of jobs
00:43:13.46\00:43:14.96
going for English
speaking professionals
00:43:14.99\00:43:16.83
in the mission field.
00:43:16.86\00:43:18.39
And when you've
launched to the mission field,
00:43:18.43\00:43:20.30
you go there, not so much
to be a professional there,
00:43:20.33\00:43:24.27
but you are using
your professional skills
00:43:24.30\00:43:26.07
to give you a visa
00:43:26.10\00:43:27.44
and then you can plant
a church, a house church
00:43:27.47\00:43:29.80
in which ever country or
city you happen to be living in.
00:43:29.84\00:43:32.37
And even today there are
churches in the Middle East,
00:43:32.41\00:43:35.71
I won't mention by name,
00:43:35.74\00:43:37.31
but there are
churches in the Middle East
00:43:37.35\00:43:38.68
that were established
by physicians and nurses
00:43:38.71\00:43:41.05
and physical therapists,
thriving house churches
00:43:41.08\00:43:44.35
that were
established by tent makers.
00:43:44.39\00:43:46.35
And so our
tentmaker ministry is designed
00:43:46.39\00:43:50.69
so that nobody
is AFM's employee,
00:43:50.73\00:43:53.06
there's no financial
relationship with AFM,
00:43:53.09\00:43:55.43
we have a coaching and
a training relationship
00:43:55.46\00:43:58.47
to encourage people.
00:43:58.50\00:43:59.83
We say, this is
how you find work,
00:43:59.87\00:44:01.27
this is a check list
of what you need to do
00:44:01.30\00:44:03.41
before you go,
in terms of having
00:44:03.44\00:44:04.91
a well and supporting
church and prayer partners,
00:44:04.94\00:44:08.28
and when you get to the field,
00:44:08.31\00:44:09.94
we can coach you in
how to plant a church,
00:44:09.98\00:44:12.78
how to gain
decisions for Jesus Christ,
00:44:12.81\00:44:14.98
how to lead an
inductive Bible study,
00:44:15.02\00:44:17.09
common questions and answers
you may have with Muslims
00:44:17.12\00:44:19.52
or with Hindus
or with Buddhists.
00:44:19.55\00:44:21.82
And so this is a
new ministry we've begun
00:44:21.86\00:44:24.33
and we just like to
encourage all of your viewers,
00:44:24.36\00:44:26.63
if they have professional skills
00:44:26.66\00:44:28.56
and maybe they
sense they've accomplished
00:44:28.60\00:44:30.63
all they want to
in their home country
00:44:30.67\00:44:33.07
and they've reached a
plateau in their career,
00:44:33.10\00:44:35.04
well, they
sense God calling them
00:44:35.07\00:44:36.47
to be a tentmaker
like the Apostle Paul,
00:44:36.50\00:44:38.41
to check out our
website, gotential.org
00:44:38.44\00:44:41.21
and pray about
launching as a tentmaker
00:44:41.24\00:44:43.75
to the 10/40 Mission window
00:44:43.78\00:44:45.38
and just seeing what God
can do through each one of us
00:44:45.41\00:44:49.02
with our professional skills,
it's a thrilling opportunity.
00:44:49.05\00:44:51.65
And I believe that the
Lord has given AFM this vision
00:44:51.69\00:44:55.16
but I know He's got His
call on many people here
00:44:55.19\00:44:59.89
who are hearing this message.
00:44:59.93\00:45:01.43
So if the Spirit of the Lord
00:45:01.46\00:45:02.80
is stirring
your heart right now,
00:45:02.83\00:45:04.33
I encourage you to pray
00:45:04.37\00:45:05.90
and then go to
the website gotential,
00:45:05.93\00:45:08.77
G-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L.org
and check this out
00:45:08.80\00:45:14.28
because God is not going to...
00:45:14.31\00:45:17.21
Christ isn't going to return
00:45:17.25\00:45:18.65
until all the
people of the world
00:45:18.68\00:45:20.42
have been reached.
00:45:20.45\00:45:21.78
And this 10/40 Window,
00:45:21.82\00:45:23.35
there's still a number of people
00:45:23.39\00:45:25.45
who are looking for
00:45:25.49\00:45:27.22
and Muslims are actually looking
00:45:27.26\00:45:28.79
for the return of Christ,
00:45:28.82\00:45:30.23
they just haven't
recognized him yet
00:45:30.26\00:45:32.29
as the Son of God,
as the Prince of peace.
00:45:32.33\00:45:35.36
So I encourage you to do that.
00:45:35.40\00:45:37.37
Thank you, Conrad,
for sharing. Thank you.
00:45:37.40\00:45:39.10
Now, Marc, you as the Director
00:45:39.13\00:45:42.50
of the
International Field Activities
00:45:42.54\00:45:44.87
for Adventist Frontier Mission,
00:45:44.91\00:45:46.61
kind of give us an
overview of what AFM is doing
00:45:46.64\00:45:51.41
in addition to
this refugee outreach
00:45:51.45\00:45:54.48
and the tentmaker ministry?
00:45:54.52\00:45:55.85
Well, we have
missionaries around the world
00:45:55.88\00:45:59.65
and our goal is to...
00:45:59.69\00:46:02.16
Our goal is to
put people in places
00:46:02.19\00:46:04.93
where the church
is not developed.
00:46:04.96\00:46:06.80
So we are there
to plant the church,
00:46:06.83\00:46:09.80
to spread the gospel
where Jesus is not known
00:46:09.83\00:46:12.83
or where the church is
very small or not developed.
00:46:12.87\00:46:17.47
So what we're often
doing is we're actually,
00:46:17.51\00:46:19.81
our missionaries are
not only sharing the gospel
00:46:19.84\00:46:22.21
but they're having to work
00:46:22.24\00:46:23.78
without an infrastructure,
without a support.
00:46:23.81\00:46:26.75
In Africa, we're
planting churches
00:46:26.78\00:46:28.98
in many Muslim areas,
00:46:29.02\00:46:30.75
In Southeast Asia and South Asia
00:46:30.79\00:46:32.85
we're spreading the Gospel there
00:46:32.89\00:46:35.09
and seeing the beginnings of God
00:46:35.12\00:46:38.39
doing a movement in places
00:46:38.43\00:46:39.76
where there have never
been a Christians before.
00:46:39.79\00:46:42.60
In Europe as well we are...
00:46:42.63\00:46:45.93
It's hard to imagine that
Europe is a big mission field,
00:46:45.97\00:46:48.94
but in Europe we are
seeing people come to Christ
00:46:48.97\00:46:53.38
as a result of our
missionaries' work.
00:46:53.41\00:46:54.94
So we work in many
places around the world.
00:46:54.98\00:46:58.38
One thing that we're
seeing and as we talk about the,
00:46:58.41\00:47:02.28
you know, as we
approach the end of time
00:47:02.32\00:47:03.65
as we see the great
controversy coming to an end,
00:47:03.69\00:47:06.09
our missionaries
are often working
00:47:06.12\00:47:07.66
in very
challenging circumstances,
00:47:07.69\00:47:11.06
they face a number of challenges
00:47:11.09\00:47:15.13
that threaten, we can say,
00:47:15.16\00:47:18.23
threaten their work
or impede their work,
00:47:18.27\00:47:19.90
but if handled
in faith and prayer,
00:47:19.93\00:47:24.14
we also see that those
become powerful opportunities
00:47:24.17\00:47:27.61
to gain credibility
00:47:27.64\00:47:28.98
and to even win
people to Christ.
00:47:29.01\00:47:30.75
Right, now tell me a
little bit about the...
00:47:30.78\00:47:33.92
as far as your
language abilities,
00:47:33.95\00:47:37.62
does someone need
to be multilingual,
00:47:37.65\00:47:39.45
I know you are multilingual,
speaking several languages
00:47:39.49\00:47:42.76
to become a
missionary in these areas,
00:47:42.79\00:47:45.13
are you looking for
people who are multilingual
00:47:45.16\00:47:47.63
or what are the requirements?
00:47:47.66\00:47:49.36
We're looking for
people who are first willing.
00:47:49.40\00:47:51.60
Obviously being
multilingual or bilingual helps,
00:47:51.63\00:47:55.20
but AFM does give training
in how to learn a language,
00:47:55.24\00:47:58.71
but most of all we could
depend on the Holy Spirit
00:47:58.74\00:48:01.48
to guide us and to
help us to learn a language.
00:48:01.51\00:48:03.85
So when I went as a missionary,
I only spoke one language,
00:48:03.88\00:48:07.22
but God gives us the
ability in the field to learn
00:48:07.25\00:48:10.12
and there may be
different levels of proficiency
00:48:10.15\00:48:12.25
in learning a language,
00:48:12.29\00:48:13.62
but it is definitely
something that can be learned.
00:48:13.66\00:48:16.83
And a lot of people have
gifts that they don't know of.
00:48:16.86\00:48:19.46
So no, you don't have to be
multilingual to be a missionary
00:48:19.49\00:48:22.53
and many people will become
multilingual in their service.
00:48:22.56\00:48:25.10
Amen.
00:48:25.13\00:48:26.47
How many different
churches are being planted?
00:48:26.50\00:48:29.67
Do you have a number?
00:48:29.70\00:48:31.04
We haven't kept numbers,
00:48:31.07\00:48:33.24
but I think 60-70 churches
over the last several years
00:48:33.27\00:48:38.38
we've seen planted as a
result of the work of AFM.
00:48:38.41\00:48:41.65
And again, I have to say that
these are sometimes churches
00:48:41.68\00:48:44.35
that are working in a setting
00:48:44.39\00:48:47.06
where there is not
a neighboring church
00:48:47.09\00:48:49.69
three hours away
or five hours away.
00:48:49.72\00:48:51.49
These may be isolated churches.
00:48:51.53\00:48:53.23
So our
missionaries often stay longer
00:48:53.26\00:48:55.60
then you'd normally expect
00:48:55.63\00:48:58.20
because they have to
build up a support structure
00:48:58.23\00:49:00.87
so that the work
doesn't die when they leave.
00:49:00.90\00:49:03.17
And then if I
were say a... If I...
00:49:03.20\00:49:06.74
My husband and I were
young and wanted to...
00:49:06.78\00:49:09.61
Felt the call of God
00:49:09.64\00:49:10.98
to do something more
meaningful with our life,
00:49:11.01\00:49:13.85
if we were to come
into this remote area,
00:49:13.88\00:49:17.39
does AFM help with
Bible study materials?
00:49:17.42\00:49:20.89
What kind of support does
AFM give the missionaries?
00:49:20.92\00:49:24.33
Very good question.
00:49:24.36\00:49:25.69
First, before
missionaries leave,
00:49:25.73\00:49:28.60
they are
trained and given skills
00:49:28.63\00:49:31.73
to live in an environment,
to study the environment,
00:49:31.77\00:49:34.24
to study the language, to
integrate with the people,
00:49:34.27\00:49:37.17
so they don't feel like
total strangers when they go.
00:49:37.21\00:49:41.68
Then all during their
service AFM has Field Directors
00:49:41.71\00:49:45.61
that visit them regularly,
stay in contact with them
00:49:45.65\00:49:49.18
through
electronic communication,
00:49:49.22\00:49:50.55
if such is available or
other means of communication
00:49:50.59\00:49:53.62
and every one of their needs
that we can humanly support,
00:49:53.66\00:49:57.76
we do our best to do to support.
00:49:57.79\00:49:59.33
So even though
they may be in an area
00:49:59.36\00:50:01.30
where there's no church support,
00:50:01.33\00:50:02.66
they still have AFM's support.
00:50:02.70\00:50:04.10
They do. They
do. Praise the Lord.
00:50:04.13\00:50:05.70
And I know, I just
believe with my heart,
00:50:05.73\00:50:08.54
someone God is
tugging at the heart strings
00:50:08.57\00:50:11.34
of many people to do this.
00:50:11.37\00:50:13.38
One question that I
didn't ask you, Conrad,
00:50:13.41\00:50:16.18
that I do want to ask
is in the refugee camps,
00:50:16.21\00:50:20.68
do you have an idea
00:50:20.72\00:50:22.45
of the populous
of this refugee camp
00:50:22.48\00:50:24.59
that's just 50
miles out of Mosul?
00:50:24.62\00:50:27.26
Yes, well, the
total refugee population
00:50:27.29\00:50:29.56
is almost 1.8
million in Kurdistan.
00:50:29.59\00:50:32.86
And some of the camps are
run by the United Nations,
00:50:32.89\00:50:36.53
they have maybe 30 or
40,000 people in them,
00:50:36.56\00:50:40.14
but only a third of the refugees
00:50:40.17\00:50:41.87
are in formal refugee camps.
00:50:41.90\00:50:43.84
The rest of them are living
00:50:43.87\00:50:45.21
in unfinished
construction sites,
00:50:45.24\00:50:47.18
waste and dumps.
They're living in schools,
00:50:47.21\00:50:50.78
you go to churches
00:50:50.81\00:50:52.31
and you may have
three families living
00:50:52.35\00:50:54.18
on every pew in the church.
00:50:54.22\00:50:56.25
And so the
refugee camps vary in size
00:50:56.28\00:50:58.85
from 2 or 3 hundreds
to 40 or 50 thousand,
00:50:58.89\00:51:01.92
the largest camps.
00:51:01.96\00:51:03.46
And some of the refugee camps
00:51:03.49\00:51:05.49
are very close
to the frontlines.
00:51:05.53\00:51:07.50
And some of them are
slightly further away.
00:51:07.53\00:51:10.73
But in Kurdistan,
00:51:10.77\00:51:12.60
no refugee is more
than a couple of hours drive
00:51:12.63\00:51:14.84
from ISIS and to hear
their stories of suffering,
00:51:14.87\00:51:20.01
to listen to an Iraqi
women, a Christian lady
00:51:20.04\00:51:23.04
sharing her how on
her way out of Mosul,
00:51:23.08\00:51:26.65
the ISIS fighters
took her watch, her rings,
00:51:26.68\00:51:31.22
her belt, her
shoes, anything of value,
00:51:31.25\00:51:33.56
and they would also
take their young daughters.
00:51:33.59\00:51:36.56
And the mother knows
00:51:36.59\00:51:38.03
what those girls
are going through now.
00:51:38.06\00:51:40.50
And to hear the ladies
00:51:40.53\00:51:42.06
just expressing
their pain and anguish,
00:51:42.10\00:51:44.87
I understood for the first time
00:51:44.90\00:51:46.37
why in the book
of Job it's said that
00:51:46.40\00:51:47.84
when Job's
friends came to see him,
00:51:47.87\00:51:49.94
he saw the death
and the suffering
00:51:49.97\00:51:51.41
and they were
silent for seven days.
00:51:51.44\00:51:53.61
In the face of such
evil, we can only be silent.
00:51:53.64\00:51:56.81
But Jesus also
said in Beatitudes that,
00:51:56.85\00:51:59.51
after the final
Beatitude he said,
00:51:59.55\00:52:00.88
"Blessed are you
when men persecute you."
00:52:00.92\00:52:02.98
And the next teaching was,
00:52:03.02\00:52:04.35
"You shall be the
light of the world."
00:52:04.39\00:52:06.02
So it's in the midst of evil
00:52:06.05\00:52:07.72
that God is
causing and calling us
00:52:07.76\00:52:09.32
to Seventh-day Adventists
00:52:09.36\00:52:10.73
to stand up and
say there is good,
00:52:10.76\00:52:12.96
there is a
loving heavenly Father,
00:52:12.99\00:52:14.53
there is hope because
00:52:14.56\00:52:15.90
there is a soon
returning Savior,
00:52:15.93\00:52:17.30
and that is why we serve
in places such as Kurdistan.
00:52:17.33\00:52:19.63
Amen.
00:52:19.67\00:52:21.00
Well, this has been so
exciting for me to learn about
00:52:21.04\00:52:24.04
the refugee outreach we have.
00:52:24.07\00:52:25.84
That's new for me.
00:52:25.87\00:52:27.21
And I believe so much,
I want to thank you both,
00:52:27.24\00:52:31.41
Marc and Conrad,
for being here today.
00:52:31.45\00:52:34.18
But I believe, just as the
Lord is moving on my heart,
00:52:34.22\00:52:37.49
He is moving on
your heart at home.
00:52:37.52\00:52:39.52
And if you feel that you
would like to support AFM,
00:52:39.55\00:52:44.43
Adventist Frontier Mission,
00:52:44.46\00:52:45.79
you may go to
AFMonline.org, is that correct?
00:52:45.83\00:52:51.23
There's no hyphen? No.
00:52:51.27\00:52:52.60
Just AFMonline.org
00:52:52.63\00:52:57.11
and you can support
this refugee ministry
00:52:57.14\00:52:59.67
and you can support...
00:52:59.71\00:53:01.04
Maybe God's calling you to
be like Paul and be a tentmaker,
00:53:01.08\00:53:04.85
take your profession
and use that to get the visa
00:53:04.88\00:53:09.18
and start a church in
one of these countries
00:53:09.22\00:53:12.29
in the 10/40 window,
00:53:12.32\00:53:13.66
or maybe you would
like to be a missionary
00:53:13.69\00:53:16.09
as Marc was telling us.
00:53:16.12\00:53:17.83
I know that time is short.
00:53:17.86\00:53:19.49
I believe with all of my
heart that God wants to reach
00:53:19.53\00:53:23.70
the Muslim people as
well as there are so many
00:53:23.73\00:53:27.27
who have a
sincere heart for God.
00:53:27.30\00:53:29.64
So God is looking for people
who are willing to sacrifice,
00:53:29.67\00:53:34.74
maybe a little of their comfort,
00:53:34.78\00:53:36.41
step outside of the box,
00:53:36.44\00:53:38.11
be led by the Holy Spirit
00:53:38.15\00:53:40.28
and I just want to encourage you
00:53:40.32\00:53:42.55
to go to AFMonline.org.
00:53:42.58\00:53:46.86
Thank you so
much for joining us,
00:53:46.89\00:53:49.09
and we'll have more
00:53:49.12\00:53:50.66
straight from San
Antonio for you soon to see.
00:53:50.69\00:53:54.73
Thank you. God bless.
00:53:54.76\00:53:57.40
Thank you.
00:53:57.43\00:53:58.77