I want to spend my life 00:00:01.36\00:00:05.37 Mending broken people 00:00:07.34\00:00:11.34 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.24\00:00:16.24 Removing pain 00:00:18.55\00:00:22.55 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.52\00:00:27.52 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.72\00:00:33.73 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.43\00:00:38.43 Mending broken people 00:00:40.14\00:00:44.14 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.57\00:00:49.58 Mending broken people 00:00:51.11\00:00:55.12 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 00:01:06.43\00:01:09.46 Thank you for joining us as you do each and everyday 00:01:09.50\00:01:12.70 and as always I always like to thank our folks 00:01:12.73\00:01:15.34 for their love and their prayers 00:01:15.37\00:01:16.71 and financial support of 3ABN 00:01:16.74\00:01:19.74 as we continue to take this gospel into all the world. 00:01:19.77\00:01:22.84 My co-host today is Dr. Yvonne Lewis. 00:01:22.88\00:01:25.71 Yeah. And may we call you Yvonne? 00:01:25.75\00:01:27.82 Absolutely. Or Sister Lewis. 00:01:27.85\00:01:29.92 Sister Lewis, no. Yvonne. 00:01:29.95\00:01:31.35 All right, we'll call her Yvonne. 00:01:31.39\00:01:33.99 Manager of Dare to Dream and we're so thankful 00:01:34.02\00:01:36.42 for what you're doing 00:01:36.46\00:01:37.79 and what God has called you to do. 00:01:37.83\00:01:39.46 Coming from the world and singing Jingles 00:01:39.49\00:01:41.46 and singing all that you've done 00:01:41.50\00:01:43.40 in the music world to coming here 00:01:43.43\00:01:45.40 and taking over the reins of Dare to Dream, 00:01:45.43\00:01:47.97 which is reaching the inner cities in America 00:01:48.00\00:01:50.84 and around the world. 00:01:50.87\00:01:52.57 It's a calling and you accepted that calling. 00:01:52.61\00:01:55.24 Thank you so much. 00:01:55.28\00:01:56.61 Well, I praise the Lord for it. It's a privilege. 00:01:56.64\00:01:58.48 It's truly a privilege. So thank you. 00:01:58.51\00:02:00.38 All right. We have a special guest today. 00:02:00.42\00:02:01.95 Have you met this gentleman? 00:02:01.98\00:02:03.32 I have. 00:02:03.35\00:02:04.69 Pastor Paul. 00:02:04.72\00:02:06.05 Pastor Paul Scavella. Scavella. 00:02:06.09\00:02:07.42 And president of the Bahamas Conference, right? 00:02:07.46\00:02:10.93 South Bahamas. South Bahamas. 00:02:10.96\00:02:12.83 Yes. In Nassau. 00:02:12.86\00:02:14.86 In Nassau, yes. What a beautiful place. 00:02:14.90\00:02:17.70 Well, I think so. Yeah. 00:02:17.73\00:02:19.23 Is that fair for people to be able to live 00:02:19.27\00:02:21.00 some where like that on this earth all the time? 00:02:21.04\00:02:22.44 I know. 00:02:22.47\00:02:23.81 Well, you know, God has a wonderful sense of humor. 00:02:23.84\00:02:30.05 And in His creative mind he thought it best 00:02:30.08\00:02:34.42 to put the best place on earth in the Bahamas. 00:02:34.45\00:02:42.36 But now you have to admit, 00:02:42.39\00:02:43.73 I drove you around out in country area here in new-- 00:02:43.76\00:02:48.26 You know what he said? What he said? 00:02:48.30\00:02:49.63 He got down, said it's so... Peaceful. 00:02:49.66\00:02:51.93 Peaceful. Yes. 00:02:51.97\00:02:53.30 He liked to. Yeah. 00:02:53.34\00:02:54.67 We went acres and acres and several miles 00:02:54.70\00:02:56.71 and showed him different 3ABN facilities, 00:02:56.74\00:02:59.97 our different buildings. 00:03:00.01\00:03:01.58 It certainly is a very nice place to be 00:03:01.61\00:03:05.51 and the quietness, you know, 00:03:05.55\00:03:08.75 where one of my favorite writers, 00:03:08.78\00:03:10.85 Ellen White talks about makes it more distinct, 00:03:10.89\00:03:14.06 the voice of God. 00:03:14.09\00:03:15.79 And certainly it's somewhere where one can focus 00:03:15.82\00:03:21.83 away from the meandering activities 00:03:21.86\00:03:24.73 of the busy city life 00:03:24.77\00:03:26.87 and really get in tune with our Maker. 00:03:26.90\00:03:30.61 So it's a joy to be here with you. 00:03:30.64\00:03:32.67 And thank you for having me. 00:03:32.71\00:03:34.31 And it's a privilege to have you 00:03:34.34\00:03:36.04 and humans, it's good that we can adapt so much, 00:03:36.08\00:03:38.88 you know, because like me, I travel around the world 00:03:38.91\00:03:42.55 but there is, not to one that coined this, 00:03:42.58\00:03:45.25 some of you have heard this term. 00:03:45.29\00:03:46.92 "There's no place like home." That's right. 00:03:46.96\00:03:48.72 I think that is Wizard of Oz or something. 00:03:48.76\00:03:50.73 Judy Garland, "No place like home." 00:03:50.76\00:03:52.63 It's first time I've heard of it anyway. 00:03:52.66\00:03:54.73 But there's always no place, 00:03:54.76\00:03:56.26 Bahamas for me a great place to visit 00:03:56.30\00:03:58.70 but, you know, this is home. 00:03:58.73\00:04:00.07 But for you, this is a nice place to visit. 00:04:00.10\00:04:02.50 But the Bahamas is home, you know. 00:04:02.54\00:04:04.01 And the weather is beautiful today. 00:04:04.04\00:04:05.81 Well, it is. It is right time now. 00:04:05.84\00:04:07.91 She was from New York but there's no place like home. 00:04:07.94\00:04:12.58 But now you've learned to get used-- 00:04:12.61\00:04:14.42 You're kind of gotten out of that 00:04:14.45\00:04:15.78 city mindset, haven't you? 00:04:15.82\00:04:17.15 I have, you know. 00:04:17.19\00:04:18.52 The last time I was in New York which-- 00:04:18.55\00:04:19.92 I love my New Yorkers and everything. 00:04:19.95\00:04:22.26 But there's a unique energy in New York 00:04:22.29\00:04:27.46 and the last time I was there, it was cold 00:04:27.50\00:04:31.40 and it was kind of frenetic and everybody is rushing out. 00:04:31.43\00:04:34.57 And I thought, Well, this is the first time 00:04:34.60\00:04:37.14 that I've gone to New York 00:04:37.17\00:04:39.67 and wanted to get back to Southern Illinois. 00:04:39.71\00:04:42.71 Just peace here and the tranquility 00:04:42.74\00:04:46.31 and just, it's just different. 00:04:46.35\00:04:48.92 It's really different here. 00:04:48.95\00:04:50.29 Yeah, it's all in what you get used to. 00:04:50.32\00:04:52.12 I still love you though, New York. 00:04:52.15\00:04:53.82 And I go to New York and I'm happy to be there 00:04:53.86\00:04:57.86 over Sabbath but like people said, 00:04:57.89\00:04:59.63 you want to stay a couple of days 00:04:59.66\00:05:01.00 and shopping-- 00:05:01.03\00:05:02.36 No I need to get back. 00:05:02.40\00:05:03.73 I want to get back to the country, you know. 00:05:03.77\00:05:05.90 It's just kind of the way we are 00:05:05.93\00:05:07.27 but beautiful part of the world. 00:05:07.30\00:05:08.64 We've been there. Thank you for having us. 00:05:08.67\00:05:10.04 Yes. 00:05:10.07\00:05:11.41 We did some programs there, last-- live actually. 00:05:11.44\00:05:13.44 Yes. And which church was that? 00:05:13.48\00:05:14.81 Where were we? 00:05:14.84\00:05:16.18 We were at the HillView Church 00:05:16.21\00:05:19.38 where we did the Wednesday night service through Thursday 00:05:19.41\00:05:23.69 and then we were at the national gymnasium 00:05:23.72\00:05:27.02 on the weekend for camp meeting. 00:05:27.06\00:05:29.12 That was great. Yes. 00:05:29.16\00:05:30.49 Wonderful there. It was. 00:05:30.53\00:05:31.86 Some great music and their great preaching 00:05:31.89\00:05:34.96 and so what time of year is that? 00:05:35.00\00:05:36.67 Any certain time of the year, is this spring? 00:05:36.70\00:05:38.43 It's usually the end of June 00:05:38.47\00:05:41.80 and the first weekend in July right after our academy closes. 00:05:41.84\00:05:46.34 We go into week of our camp meetings 00:05:46.37\00:05:48.98 and so every year it's a time of refreshing, 00:05:49.01\00:05:52.55 it's a time of focus of training 00:05:52.58\00:05:55.82 and helping prepare the membership 00:05:55.85\00:05:57.32 for more work in the field, and harvesting those persons, 00:05:57.35\00:06:03.16 who are ready to accept God's Three Angels' messages. 00:06:03.19\00:06:07.40 Amen. 00:06:07.43\00:06:08.76 If he wanted some really huge crowds, 00:06:08.80\00:06:11.17 he would have that camp meeting in January 00:06:11.20\00:06:13.03 and about half of America would show up. 00:06:13.07\00:06:15.84 That's right. 00:06:15.87\00:06:17.21 Well, that's something you need to think about it. 00:06:17.24\00:06:20.78 I'd be one to show up for sure. 00:06:20.81\00:06:22.68 Get out of this, the cold up here. 00:06:22.71\00:06:24.48 In that time of year. Yeah. 00:06:24.51\00:06:25.85 With-- we're gonna talk a little bit about 00:06:25.88\00:06:27.58 you and your background. 00:06:27.62\00:06:29.42 We are here today. We're gonna talk about-- 00:06:29.45\00:06:30.99 There was a hurricane recently. 00:06:31.02\00:06:32.42 Yes. That's why you are here. 00:06:32.45\00:06:33.79 What is the name of the hurricane? 00:06:33.82\00:06:35.29 Hurricane Joaquin passed through the Bahamas 00:06:35.32\00:06:39.16 and sat over the South Eastern Islands in the Bahamas 00:06:39.19\00:06:43.87 for about almost two days. 00:06:43.90\00:06:46.74 And quite a bit of devastation took place, 00:06:46.77\00:06:49.50 destruction of homes. 00:06:49.54\00:06:51.41 Thank God, no loss of life. 00:06:51.44\00:06:54.08 Amazing. 00:06:54.11\00:06:55.44 No loss of life. No loss of life. 00:06:55.48\00:06:58.85 Human life, that is. 00:06:58.88\00:07:00.22 There were some animals that lost their lives 00:07:00.25\00:07:02.65 but God, and it's a miracle really, 00:07:02.68\00:07:05.35 because when you surveyed the areas 00:07:05.39\00:07:09.79 where the hurricane was and see what happened 00:07:09.82\00:07:14.50 and the amount of destruction, both by water and wind 00:07:14.53\00:07:19.87 and in other areas, it's almost, 00:07:19.90\00:07:24.31 not almost, a miracle that nobody really lost their lives. 00:07:24.34\00:07:29.21 So we just give God thanks in all things 00:07:29.24\00:07:33.38 because "all things together," when you add it all up 00:07:33.42\00:07:36.02 "work for the good of those who love the Lord, 00:07:36.05\00:07:38.62 those who are called according to His purpose." 00:07:38.65\00:07:41.46 Amen. Yes. 00:07:41.49\00:07:43.39 So we delighted to be able to be here 00:07:43.43\00:07:46.29 and to be able to testify the goodness of God 00:07:46.33\00:07:50.63 through this circumstance. 00:07:50.67\00:07:53.57 Amen. 00:07:53.60\00:07:54.94 What a miracle and we're gonna be talking about 00:07:54.97\00:07:56.50 what we can do to help. 00:07:56.54\00:07:58.34 We have brothers and sisters 00:07:58.37\00:07:59.71 whose homes have been devastated, 00:07:59.74\00:08:01.74 I mean, they have their lives 00:08:01.78\00:08:03.85 but that's some of them that's all they have left. 00:08:03.88\00:08:05.85 Everything is washed away and destroyed. 00:08:05.88\00:08:09.15 We want to talk about churches and all that. 00:08:09.18\00:08:10.75 But I want to get a little bit about your background. 00:08:10.79\00:08:13.29 Tell us where you were born and raised. 00:08:13.32\00:08:15.46 Well, I was born in Nassau at the hospital there, 00:08:15.49\00:08:19.33 the hospital which is called the Princess Margaret Hospital. 00:08:19.36\00:08:23.70 And of course, you know, the Bahamas 00:08:23.73\00:08:25.07 has a British background 00:08:25.10\00:08:27.47 and so everything in the early days 00:08:27.50\00:08:29.80 had some connection to someone or some activity in Britain 00:08:29.84\00:08:35.24 and so the hospital is called Princess Margaret Hospital. 00:08:35.28\00:08:38.41 And that's the main government hospital in the country 00:08:38.45\00:08:42.22 and I was born in an Adventist home. 00:08:42.25\00:08:46.89 Okay. 00:08:46.92\00:08:48.26 My father and mother are Adventist missionaries. 00:08:48.29\00:08:52.33 My father is a pastor. 00:08:52.36\00:08:54.80 Pastor Neville Emmanuel Scavella. 00:08:54.83\00:08:58.03 I think it's Emmanuel Neville Scavella. 00:08:58.07\00:09:00.54 And my mother Olivine Scavella. 00:09:00.57\00:09:02.14 So I grew up in a pastor's home 00:09:02.17\00:09:03.91 and their parents were also Adventists. 00:09:03.94\00:09:07.21 So I'm the third generation Adventist 00:09:07.24\00:09:11.98 and had the privilege of going to Adventist school, 00:09:12.01\00:09:16.85 both in the Bahamas and then at one point 00:09:16.89\00:09:19.69 my father and mother went to La Sierra, California, 00:09:19.72\00:09:24.66 Loma Linda to do their extended education. 00:09:24.69\00:09:28.50 So I spent two years in California as a teenager. 00:09:28.53\00:09:31.50 So you were a PK. 00:09:31.53\00:09:33.97 Yes. 00:09:34.00\00:09:37.81 Still am. 00:09:37.84\00:09:39.47 My father and mother, both alive. 00:09:39.51\00:09:42.24 Oh, praise the Lord. 00:09:42.28\00:09:43.98 My father is retired, my mother is retired. 00:09:44.01\00:09:46.08 She has served in the church for most of her life, 00:09:46.11\00:09:52.52 working at the office. 00:09:52.55\00:09:54.49 And of course, that in itself gave many challenges 00:09:54.52\00:10:01.46 because people -- expectation of you 00:10:01.50\00:10:05.17 is so high, almost as if you are not human. 00:10:05.20\00:10:09.70 Yes. And-- 00:10:09.74\00:10:11.74 But the one thing that I often say to people 00:10:11.77\00:10:16.08 in regards to that is that here, 00:10:16.11\00:10:18.38 you know, sometimes PKs get a bad rap. 00:10:18.41\00:10:22.98 They are not in the church or they whatever. 00:10:23.02\00:10:27.46 I stand here as a testimony of growing up in a home 00:10:27.49\00:10:31.66 where I have parents who were Christians 00:10:31.69\00:10:35.80 and who did everything they could within their power 00:10:35.83\00:10:39.63 to give me an opportunity to also accept, 00:10:39.67\00:10:42.40 to accept Jesus as my personal savior. 00:10:42.44\00:10:45.84 And I had the joy of having wonderful Christian parents. 00:10:45.87\00:10:52.95 More than just pastor and pastor's wife, 00:10:52.98\00:10:56.05 they were Christians and so I resisted 00:10:56.08\00:11:03.16 being put in a category as a pastor's kid. 00:11:03.19\00:11:06.70 I was a kid and my parents protected us 00:11:06.73\00:11:11.00 from that as well, 00:11:11.03\00:11:12.60 giving us the opportunity to be ourselves. 00:11:12.63\00:11:15.27 And so it came to a point 00:11:15.30\00:11:18.21 when I had to make a decision for Christ for myself. 00:11:18.24\00:11:21.68 I was coming to that. Yeah. 00:11:21.71\00:11:23.85 Well, because as a-- as a PK, 00:11:23.88\00:11:27.25 you often have to go along with your parents agenda. 00:11:27.28\00:11:32.55 So at what point did you realize for you 00:11:32.59\00:11:35.66 that Jesus Christ was your savior? 00:11:35.69\00:11:38.19 Yeah, well, I got baptized and accepted Christ 00:11:38.23\00:11:42.50 as my personal savior when I was ten years of age. 00:11:42.53\00:11:45.00 But that became a process of about five to six years 00:11:45.03\00:11:50.81 because I still had my struggles 00:11:50.84\00:11:52.87 and peer pressure and all the rest of it. 00:11:52.91\00:11:54.54 And one Sabbath, my father was preaching in church 00:11:54.58\00:12:00.68 and I was sitting in the back of the church. 00:12:00.72\00:12:04.85 The central church at home where I grew up 00:12:04.89\00:12:08.39 and I was talking 00:12:08.42\00:12:11.89 and not paying attention to his sermon. 00:12:11.93\00:12:14.86 And it was as if a voice said to me, 00:12:14.90\00:12:18.33 "Why are you here distracting 00:12:18.37\00:12:20.80 other young people from hearing the gospel 00:12:20.84\00:12:23.87 that your daddy is up there? 00:12:23.91\00:12:25.64 So engaged him. 00:12:25.67\00:12:29.01 Take the same effort and energy that you are using 00:12:29.04\00:12:33.88 to lead these young people who are astray 00:12:33.92\00:12:36.79 and use it for me," To lead them to Christ. 00:12:36.82\00:12:40.39 Wow, and how old were you at that point? 00:12:40.42\00:12:42.62 I was about 15, going on 16. Wow. 00:12:42.66\00:12:45.86 Getting ready to finish high school. 00:12:45.89\00:12:48.40 And so right on the middle of the sermon, this voice, 00:12:48.43\00:12:52.53 just as clear as I'm talking to you said that to me. 00:12:52.57\00:12:56.54 And it was at that point that I realized 00:12:56.57\00:12:58.71 that God was calling me to ministry, 00:12:58.74\00:13:02.14 something which I really didn't want to be involved in. 00:13:02.18\00:13:06.21 But if I could use my efforts to distract people from Christ, 00:13:06.25\00:13:11.19 then I could use it to attract them to Christ. 00:13:11.22\00:13:14.16 All right, love it. That's good. 00:13:14.19\00:13:16.39 So you all went back, you finished, 00:13:16.42\00:13:18.59 the folks finished there in California, 00:13:18.63\00:13:20.00 you went back to the Bahamas. 00:13:20.03\00:13:21.36 We went back to the Bahamas and then I went off to school. 00:13:21.40\00:13:25.43 But I didn't enroll in theology, in ministry. 00:13:25.47\00:13:28.27 I enrolled in biology. 00:13:28.30\00:13:30.24 And did almost a whole year of biology training, 00:13:30.27\00:13:34.74 cutting up frogs in the lab and microbiology and chemistry 00:13:34.78\00:13:40.02 and all this type of stuff and-- 00:13:40.05\00:13:42.82 It was just something inside of me just saying, 00:13:42.85\00:13:45.45 the same energy that you used to distract people from me, 00:13:45.49\00:13:49.02 I need you to use it to attract people to me. 00:13:49.06\00:13:51.56 Okay. 00:13:51.59\00:13:52.93 And so after a year I came home 00:13:52.96\00:13:55.06 and one summer in an in AY, I told the church that, 00:13:55.10\00:14:01.50 when I returned to school I was gonna be doing theology. 00:14:01.54\00:14:04.74 My parents, I hadn't even told 00:14:04.77\00:14:06.71 until later on that afternoon 00:14:06.74\00:14:08.88 and I returned to West Indies college 00:14:08.91\00:14:11.51 and changed my major from biology to theology. 00:14:11.55\00:14:17.19 And from then until now God has been using me to help 00:14:17.22\00:14:22.26 to direct people to Christ and not away from Christ. 00:14:22.29\00:14:28.56 Okay, good. 00:14:28.60\00:14:29.93 Tell us about your wife and family. 00:14:29.96\00:14:31.93 Well, God has blessed me with a wonderful, lovely wife. 00:14:31.97\00:14:36.34 Her name is Joan. She is-- 00:14:36.37\00:14:40.74 We've been married now 25-- going on 25 years. 00:14:40.78\00:14:44.25 Praise the Lord. 00:14:44.28\00:14:45.61 And God has blessed us with three wonderful children. 00:14:45.65\00:14:49.25 The oldest Paul II, his-- 00:14:49.28\00:14:53.66 it is the last year of medical school 00:14:53.69\00:14:56.09 at the university of the West Indies. 00:14:56.12\00:14:58.43 My daughter Paula-Jo is graduating this coming May 00:14:58.46\00:15:05.03 from Oakwood University with a nursing degree 00:15:05.07\00:15:08.17 and my last one Jo'Paul. 00:15:08.20\00:15:12.74 He is in Oakwood as well doing a degree in engineering. 00:15:12.77\00:15:19.08 And so God has blessed us with these three 00:15:19.11\00:15:23.49 and I thank God that all of them 00:15:23.52\00:15:25.85 have been serving the Lord 00:15:25.89\00:15:29.46 and they made us very proud and we have a little niece 00:15:29.49\00:15:34.43 that we have been helping from-- 00:15:34.46\00:15:36.80 She was about, I guess three months or so. 00:15:36.83\00:15:39.63 Now she is nine called Destiny. All right. 00:15:39.67\00:15:42.60 And helping to guide her, her life as she grows. 00:15:42.64\00:15:45.27 That's great. That's wonderful. 00:15:45.31\00:15:47.04 So we're just thankful for wonderful family, 00:15:47.08\00:15:49.38 lovely wife, very supportive and in ministry, 00:15:49.41\00:15:53.95 you could ask for nothing better 00:15:53.98\00:15:56.05 than to have a supportive wife and children 00:15:56.08\00:15:57.92 who are also supportive and encourage you in the path 00:15:57.95\00:16:01.49 that God has called us to. 00:16:01.52\00:16:04.03 What steps did you take then from pastor to Bahamas, 00:16:04.06\00:16:07.96 South Bahamas president. 00:16:08.00\00:16:10.53 there, did you pastor number of different churches? 00:16:10.57\00:16:13.74 Yes. 00:16:13.77\00:16:15.24 My ministry began in 1979 as an intern, 00:16:15.27\00:16:20.61 of course, I pastored or serve as an intern 00:16:20.64\00:16:23.24 with several senior pastors in the Conference, 00:16:23.28\00:16:27.05 Pastor Roach, Pastor Hannah and Pastor Gordon, 00:16:27.08\00:16:32.99 I think, Roy Gordon and then we went on a track. 00:16:33.02\00:16:39.43 I spent 13 or 14 years in the Family islands, 00:16:39.46\00:16:43.70 where we call the Family Islands outside of the city. 00:16:43.73\00:16:47.64 Pastoring in Abaco, in Exuma, 00:16:47.67\00:16:52.44 pastoring in Grand Bahama and South Andros. 00:16:52.47\00:16:55.81 Now are these small churches, small congregations? 00:16:55.84\00:16:57.85 These are small congregations. 00:16:57.88\00:16:59.61 Most of them with a membership 00:16:59.65\00:17:01.88 of about 50 to a 100 persons 00:17:01.92\00:17:05.62 in these Family islands and so-- 00:17:05.65\00:17:08.92 After that I ended up in Grand Bahama. 00:17:08.96\00:17:11.96 Now Grand Bahama has larger churches. 00:17:11.99\00:17:15.96 I pastored three churches there in Grand Bahama. 00:17:16.00\00:17:19.17 And then I was asked to be the field secretary, 00:17:19.20\00:17:24.81 my-- served as health ministries director 00:17:24.84\00:17:28.38 and then I served as path director. 00:17:28.41\00:17:31.41 Community services, kind of covered... 00:17:31.45\00:17:35.28 Yeah, whole gamut of things. 00:17:35.32\00:17:37.05 Whole gamut of things and so God prepared me. 00:17:37.09\00:17:39.85 I've been in 30 about 34 years of ministry now. 00:17:39.89\00:17:42.72 Wow. 00:17:42.76\00:17:44.09 And about four years ago, five years ago, 00:17:44.13\00:17:47.40 I was called to be the president 00:17:47.43\00:17:50.20 of the Conference. 00:17:50.23\00:17:51.57 And just finishing the first year 00:17:51.60\00:17:54.67 in the second term of presidency, 00:17:54.70\00:17:57.87 and we thank God for the privilege 00:17:57.91\00:18:01.21 and the opportunity to serve. 00:18:01.24\00:18:02.58 Amen. 00:18:02.61\00:18:03.95 Not everybody as we all know 00:18:03.98\00:18:05.31 that serves even in ministry or people of vision so much. 00:18:05.35\00:18:08.72 A lot of people would just take care of what we got. 00:18:08.75\00:18:11.15 But I've got emails from him and all sorts of times of night 00:18:11.19\00:18:15.42 and about visions and dreams 00:18:15.46\00:18:17.26 that he has for taking the gospel to the world 00:18:17.29\00:18:20.63 and his particular part of the country. 00:18:20.66\00:18:22.66 But you are doing also with your education, 00:18:22.70\00:18:25.37 you are doing continuing education. 00:18:25.40\00:18:27.00 Well, you know, the biggest room, 00:18:27.04\00:18:29.40 my grandfather used to say from-- 00:18:29.44\00:18:31.11 I was a little boy in the world. 00:18:31.14\00:18:33.07 The biggest room in the world is the room for improvement. 00:18:33.11\00:18:35.44 Oh, I like that. That's good. 00:18:35.48\00:18:38.21 And anytime we stop learning, then we stop growing. 00:18:38.25\00:18:40.88 That's right. 00:18:40.92\00:18:42.25 And so two years ago, one of my directors, 00:18:42.28\00:18:46.12 Pastor Kent Price said to me, 00:18:46.15\00:18:50.33 "Pastor, let's go and do our doctoral program." 00:18:50.36\00:18:54.16 And I said to him, "At this stage of my life?" 00:18:54.20\00:18:56.87 You know, and he just stuck on me. 00:18:56.90\00:19:01.84 It came right down to the week that we were supposed to go 00:19:01.87\00:19:03.87 and I said to him, "I don't think 00:19:03.91\00:19:06.04 I could make this," you know. 00:19:06.07\00:19:08.48 And he got the application, he processed everything. 00:19:08.51\00:19:12.35 He said, "Pastor, I've done everything for you, 00:19:12.38\00:19:14.65 all you need to do is come." 00:19:14.68\00:19:16.95 And he said that, "If you start with me, 00:19:16.99\00:19:19.22 we will finish together." 00:19:19.25\00:19:21.06 And so we've completed two years 00:19:21.09\00:19:23.59 now of our doctoral program in ministry. 00:19:23.63\00:19:26.09 How long is the program? 00:19:26.13\00:19:27.46 It's a four year, four summers program. 00:19:27.50\00:19:29.70 So we are 50 percent finished. 00:19:29.73\00:19:31.37 Okay. 00:19:31.40\00:19:32.73 And we are writing our dissertation as we along. 00:19:32.77\00:19:36.81 And so I'm happy that he decided 00:19:36.84\00:19:40.08 to coach me into doing this. 00:19:40.11\00:19:43.31 Okay. 00:19:43.35\00:19:44.68 And I believe that is for the better. 00:19:44.71\00:19:46.58 God has a bigger plan and I just want to be 00:19:46.61\00:19:51.69 a sharp as I possibly can to help 00:19:51.72\00:19:53.99 to finish this gospel so that Jesus can come. 00:19:54.02\00:19:57.16 Amen. That's awesome. 00:19:57.19\00:19:59.16 We want to talk about the hurricane 00:19:59.19\00:20:01.96 that was there recently. 00:20:02.00\00:20:03.57 And then after that a little bit, 00:20:03.60\00:20:04.97 we would like to talk to you about 00:20:05.00\00:20:06.80 your goals and dreams and working with church members 00:20:06.84\00:20:09.97 from around the world and what do you see 00:20:10.01\00:20:12.97 and envision and these closing moments 00:20:13.01\00:20:15.54 of world's history for South Bahamas Conference. 00:20:15.58\00:20:17.65 Certainly. 00:20:17.68\00:20:19.01 But I want to talk about-- tell us a little bit again, 00:20:19.05\00:20:21.98 this hurricane and the name of it is... 00:20:22.02\00:20:24.25 Joaquin. Joaquin. 00:20:24.29\00:20:25.89 And Joaquin just set over the Bahamas 00:20:25.92\00:20:29.66 for like 48 hours. 00:20:29.69\00:20:31.03 Yeah. 00:20:31.06\00:20:32.39 And while it was setting there, 00:20:32.43\00:20:34.00 it was doing destruction, wasn't it? 00:20:34.03\00:20:35.50 It did quite a bit of damage. 00:20:35.53\00:20:37.50 I mean, you could watch it on the news. 00:20:37.53\00:20:40.14 I was actually scheduled to go there 00:20:40.17\00:20:41.90 to Long Island on the Monday 00:20:41.94\00:20:43.84 right after there about Thursday or Friday 00:20:43.87\00:20:45.94 so I called the fellow I was going with, 00:20:45.97\00:20:49.14 a pastor and said, you know, I'm looking at this weather, 00:20:49.18\00:20:52.61 I don't think we want to go there 00:20:52.65\00:20:54.68 and it looks like maybe out of there 00:20:54.72\00:20:57.22 but it still shows thunderstorms 00:20:57.25\00:20:58.89 and really bad weather. 00:20:58.92\00:21:00.32 So Long Islands is not a place 00:21:00.36\00:21:01.82 that we want to be not able to get back and forth 00:21:01.86\00:21:05.29 because of flight and not more heavy for sure. 00:21:05.33\00:21:08.06 But it was actually headed there. 00:21:08.10\00:21:09.43 So when we saw this, then we saw the devastation 00:21:09.46\00:21:12.30 and that's why we wanted to talk to you 00:21:12.33\00:21:14.40 and say can you tell us what's happening down there. 00:21:14.44\00:21:17.01 We made friends there, we have brothers and sisters 00:21:17.04\00:21:19.64 and church members and we have churches there. 00:21:19.67\00:21:22.54 So we wanted you to give us an update on the Bahamas, 00:21:22.58\00:21:26.21 on the hurricane and the damage that was done 00:21:26.25\00:21:29.72 and I know you got some pictures, 00:21:29.75\00:21:31.39 you got some video rolls. 00:21:31.42\00:21:32.99 So we're just kind of, kind of turn this over to you 00:21:33.02\00:21:35.26 to walk us through this whole terrible ordeal actually. 00:21:35.29\00:21:41.26 Well, you know, Danny, the hurricane was unusual, 00:21:41.30\00:21:47.07 first of all from the aspect that it just like popped up. 00:21:47.10\00:21:52.04 Usually, you know, you could track these things, 00:21:52.07\00:21:54.34 when you see it's coming and it's coming 00:21:54.38\00:21:56.34 but it just kind of like some thing 00:21:56.38\00:21:58.51 just sent a puff of breeze underneath something. 00:21:58.55\00:22:02.62 And so everybody was sort of taken off guard. 00:22:02.65\00:22:06.45 And then, as it started to create its wind force, 00:22:06.49\00:22:14.43 it grew from tropical depression storm 00:22:14.46\00:22:18.97 within a matter of hours. 00:22:19.00\00:22:21.57 And so people weren't really prepared. 00:22:21.60\00:22:26.01 And it started just below the South, Southern Bahamas, 00:22:26.04\00:22:30.41 down in some islands that we call Mariguana, Inagua 00:22:30.45\00:22:36.08 and then it moved right up the chain 00:22:36.12\00:22:38.72 of the Southern Islands. 00:22:38.75\00:22:41.12 And not only did it move but it moved slowly. 00:22:41.16\00:22:47.53 If I can recall, it was traveling 00:22:47.56\00:22:49.20 at about five miles an hours which is slow for hurricane. 00:22:49.23\00:22:53.20 And usually when hurricanes 00:22:53.23\00:22:56.24 come our way, you know, they will come 00:22:56.27\00:22:58.41 and just pass through very quickly. 00:22:58.44\00:23:02.11 But what created the tremendous damage 00:23:02.14\00:23:05.31 as a result of this hurricane, 00:23:05.35\00:23:07.25 hurricane Joaquin was that it just kind of hovered over 00:23:07.28\00:23:11.22 and so the category for a storm over Islands like Acklins 00:23:11.25\00:23:19.03 and Crooked Island and you know, look it up, 00:23:19.06\00:23:23.87 Google that in and you see these islands, 00:23:23.90\00:23:25.97 they are not very small islands 00:23:26.00\00:23:29.97 but the population on the islands are small. 00:23:30.01\00:23:33.34 Acklins has about 1200 maybe so people, 00:23:33.38\00:23:37.11 12 to 1400 people, Crooked Island 00:23:37.15\00:23:41.28 which is an island that my parents, 00:23:41.32\00:23:44.29 my father is from, has about 300 people or there about. 00:23:44.32\00:23:49.19 All right. 00:23:49.22\00:23:50.56 And then after Crooked Island, you have Long Island. 00:23:50.59\00:23:54.26 Yes. 00:23:54.30\00:23:55.63 And it's called Long Island because it's a long island. 00:23:55.66\00:23:58.73 But the hurricane just sat like right there, 00:23:58.77\00:24:01.20 between those three or four islands 00:24:01.24\00:24:02.74 and then out to the west of that, 00:24:02.77\00:24:04.77 I think is or to the East 00:24:04.81\00:24:06.88 of is an island called San Salvador. 00:24:06.91\00:24:09.74 It's the island that they say 00:24:09.78\00:24:11.11 Columbus discovered the new world. 00:24:11.15\00:24:14.65 And of course, in the Bahamas big 00:24:14.68\00:24:16.58 between San Salvador and Kent island. 00:24:16.62\00:24:19.62 But it just kind of hover there. 00:24:19.65\00:24:21.39 There's a pressure coming from the United States, 00:24:21.42\00:24:24.49 they just pushed it and kept it and be 00:24:24.53\00:24:27.46 and it just stayed there for almost a day and a half, 00:24:27.50\00:24:29.80 two days just churning, churning, churning. 00:24:29.83\00:24:31.93 I mean, an utter destruction. 00:24:31.97\00:24:35.64 So while it was hovering there, 00:24:35.67\00:24:37.07 was it building or was it just kind of staying 00:24:37.11\00:24:41.31 the same but just moving slowly? 00:24:41.34\00:24:43.35 It was kind of staying the same but just moving slowly. 00:24:43.38\00:24:45.98 But it didn't decrease in its energy. 00:24:46.01\00:24:48.92 That same force just kept and so we lost 00:24:48.95\00:24:54.82 all communications with these islands, 00:24:54.86\00:24:57.26 the cell towers were damaged and destroyed 00:24:57.29\00:25:01.60 and then flooding because of all the rain. 00:25:01.63\00:25:06.43 The pictures that you will see will show 00:25:06.47\00:25:11.21 the flood waters not at its maximum 00:25:11.24\00:25:16.98 and you see some of the footage there, on the TV. 00:25:17.01\00:25:19.31 The winds and of course, being there for so long, 00:25:19.35\00:25:24.79 you know, roofs started to fly off 00:25:24.82\00:25:26.99 and cars were in direction that-- 00:25:27.02\00:25:30.63 there were people who, their homes have been destroyed 00:25:30.66\00:25:33.29 and they went to seek refuge in their cars 00:25:33.33\00:25:35.53 and then the cars were destroyed, all right. 00:25:35.56\00:25:38.43 The wind was that strong that it could move a car. 00:25:38.47\00:25:41.50 Yeah, you're talking about a 140, 150 mile hour winds. 00:25:41.54\00:25:45.74 All right. 00:25:45.77\00:25:47.11 And then on top of that now, the water starts to rise. 00:25:47.14\00:25:51.25 Oh, boy. 00:25:51.28\00:25:52.61 There's a photo... 00:25:52.65\00:25:53.98 Many, many places to go and... 00:25:54.02\00:25:55.75 Some of the flooding and of course, 00:25:55.78\00:25:57.12 this is when the waters already gone down. 00:25:57.15\00:25:58.89 If you see, some of those houses, 00:25:58.92\00:26:00.62 the water is up to the roof in those houses. 00:26:00.66\00:26:03.06 So much so that people were going into their ceilings 00:26:03.09\00:26:09.36 to try and find refuge, you know. 00:26:09.40\00:26:12.63 One of our pastors, Pastor Barr, Howard Barr, 00:26:12.67\00:26:16.44 who pastors in the Crooked Island district. 00:26:16.47\00:26:18.87 He and a few other people including a lady 00:26:18.91\00:26:22.11 who had an amputation because of diabetes, 00:26:22.14\00:26:26.01 they had to take her into the ceiling of the roof. 00:26:26.05\00:26:28.32 Up in the attic. 00:26:28.35\00:26:29.95 And when they were in one section of the roof, 00:26:29.98\00:26:34.32 the water started coming in to move to another section, 00:26:34.36\00:26:37.06 and then another section and it got to the point 00:26:37.09\00:26:39.93 where they really felt, you know, what, 00:26:39.96\00:26:42.03 we don't know if we're gonna make it out of here. 00:26:42.06\00:26:45.33 You know, this could be the last. 00:26:45.37\00:26:47.17 Absolutely. 00:26:47.20\00:26:48.54 Where you gonna go, I mean, 00:26:48.57\00:26:49.90 it's gonna carry into the ocean. 00:26:49.94\00:26:51.27 That's the house right there 00:26:51.31\00:26:52.64 that they were in the ceiling that you are looking out now. 00:26:52.67\00:26:54.84 That's absolutely, to me that's amazing 00:26:54.88\00:26:58.55 that people weren't killed. 00:26:58.58\00:27:01.12 Yes. 00:27:01.15\00:27:02.48 I mean, in South Carolina we had flooding recently, 00:27:02.52\00:27:05.65 I think 17, 18 people died there. 00:27:05.69\00:27:08.36 Yes, it's amazing that... 00:27:08.39\00:27:09.72 This was, I mean, this was like a sunami 00:27:09.76\00:27:11.89 that can wash you right out in the ocean, 00:27:11.93\00:27:13.50 I mean, there's no place to go. 00:27:13.53\00:27:15.70 And when you look at it, we went to visit 00:27:15.73\00:27:19.93 several of the islands already. 00:27:19.97\00:27:22.34 Listening to the people, they explained 00:27:22.37\00:27:25.54 how there was a lull and I guess they figured that, 00:27:25.57\00:27:30.41 the eye of the storm that had come over the island, 00:27:30.45\00:27:33.15 so they tried to re-position themselves. 00:27:33.18\00:27:37.15 And then they said, all of a sudden 00:27:37.19\00:27:38.82 they heard a wind coming from the back of the island, 00:27:38.85\00:27:42.49 and this is Crooked Island at the time and rocks. 00:27:42.52\00:27:46.76 If you see the rocks that came out of the sea, 00:27:46.80\00:27:49.66 that are in the rows, there was some rows 00:27:49.70\00:27:51.73 that were completely demolished. 00:27:51.77\00:27:54.24 They disappeared, you know. 00:27:54.27\00:27:57.37 And when I went to visit I had to walk two and a half, 00:27:57.41\00:28:02.34 almost three miles 00:28:02.38\00:28:03.75 to get to one of the nearest settlements, 00:28:03.78\00:28:06.61 trying to deliver goods. 00:28:06.65\00:28:09.12 The roads, they just couldn't-- you know impossible. 00:28:09.15\00:28:12.35 And so in Long Island, in San Salvador, 00:28:12.39\00:28:15.66 in Acklins and Crooked Island, 00:28:15.69\00:28:18.06 these Islands were all devastated. 00:28:18.09\00:28:22.26 And now, the people are beginning 00:28:22.30\00:28:23.80 to emerge from the rubble as it were of destruction. 00:28:23.83\00:28:30.37 And we just thank God again 00:28:30.41\00:28:32.31 that they might have lost their homes 00:28:32.34\00:28:35.61 and their clothes and whatever else. 00:28:35.64\00:28:38.48 But they have not lost their lives. 00:28:38.51\00:28:40.72 What about any of the churches, did we lose any churches? 00:28:40.75\00:28:43.45 Yes. 00:28:43.49\00:28:44.82 On four of the islands, we have four or five churches. 00:28:44.85\00:28:49.42 In one of the islands, 00:28:49.46\00:28:50.79 the church roof went completely. 00:28:50.83\00:28:52.16 I think we have a photo of that one 00:28:52.19\00:28:54.96 and then in the other three islands, 00:28:55.00\00:28:56.70 there was damage to the roofs of the churches. 00:28:56.73\00:29:01.64 And so and one of them 00:29:01.67\00:29:03.81 we're going to probably have to re-build it 00:29:03.84\00:29:05.71 from the ground up because I was there 00:29:05.74\00:29:08.64 and the walls, even kind of shaking as a result of it. 00:29:08.68\00:29:12.91 So it'd be not wise to put a roof back on that. 00:29:12.95\00:29:17.45 And we have a large percentage 00:29:17.49\00:29:18.89 on these islands that are Adventists, right? 00:29:18.92\00:29:21.42 Well, and some of them in Crooked Island, 00:29:21.46\00:29:25.09 there's a whole settlement with Adventists. 00:29:25.13\00:29:27.66 In Acklins, we have church there, in Long Island, 00:29:27.70\00:29:32.30 Danny knows very well. 00:29:32.33\00:29:34.77 We have two churches on Long Island. 00:29:34.80\00:29:38.31 From all reports we understand that the church in the North, 00:29:38.34\00:29:41.58 the hurricane kind of stopped in the middle of the island. 00:29:41.61\00:29:44.18 It was not badly damaged. 00:29:44.21\00:29:46.11 The one in the South has some damage to it 00:29:46.15\00:29:49.08 and then in San Salvador, 00:29:49.12\00:29:50.99 the reports are that the church is pretty good. 00:29:51.02\00:29:54.89 The doors and some of the windows 00:29:54.92\00:29:56.42 and the piece of the roof was damaged 00:29:56.46\00:29:59.06 in some of those churches. 00:29:59.09\00:30:00.70 We see some of the homes of some of the members, 00:30:00.73\00:30:04.03 the roofs, the windows are blown out. 00:30:04.07\00:30:06.97 This is some of the inside destruction. 00:30:07.00\00:30:10.04 So people left the islands and they came to Nassau. 00:30:10.07\00:30:15.54 I see some of the homes on the beach. 00:30:15.58\00:30:17.25 I mean, getting to Nassau, that's not an easy job. 00:30:17.28\00:30:20.52 Some in that type and you said there wasn't 00:30:20.55\00:30:22.85 any communications for a while so you know, you don't know 00:30:22.88\00:30:26.29 how to make arrangements to go back and forth. 00:30:26.32\00:30:29.19 There's no place to go and it's like here. 00:30:29.22\00:30:31.13 You can't run down to the-- beyond Long Island. 00:30:31.16\00:30:33.50 You don't run down to lumber yard 00:30:33.53\00:30:34.86 and get all your equipment and rebuild your house. 00:30:34.90\00:30:37.27 I mean, every bit of that, that's brought from somewhere. 00:30:37.30\00:30:40.67 So this is, I mean, this is devastation 00:30:40.70\00:30:43.17 if you think about it. 00:30:43.20\00:30:44.54 Sometimes, we get a storm 00:30:44.57\00:30:45.91 and our power go out for few hours 00:30:45.94\00:30:47.61 and we are inconvenienced and like, oh, this is terrible. 00:30:47.64\00:30:49.71 Yeah. 00:30:49.74\00:30:51.08 I mean, these folks lost everything 00:30:51.11\00:30:52.45 in their homes and the churches. 00:30:52.48\00:30:54.35 So we want to help and I know our viewers 00:30:54.38\00:30:56.92 will want to help. 00:30:56.95\00:30:58.29 And with this also, and I'm thankful 00:30:58.32\00:30:59.65 for Brother Warren's watching. 00:30:59.69\00:31:01.22 You met Warren, didn't you? 00:31:01.26\00:31:02.59 Oh, yeah. 00:31:02.62\00:31:03.96 The police officer. The police officer, yes. 00:31:03.99\00:31:05.33 About six foot seven, six, six. Big guy. 00:31:05.36\00:31:08.46 They were thankful that you 00:31:08.50\00:31:09.86 and all of the other brothers and sisters 00:31:09.90\00:31:12.17 there on the island who made it. 00:31:12.20\00:31:13.84 But we are praying for you. 00:31:13.87\00:31:15.20 We want you all to know that. 00:31:15.24\00:31:16.94 And I went to the Blue Hole. Yes. 00:31:16.97\00:31:19.91 Now I want to ask you something. 00:31:19.94\00:31:21.34 Have you been to the Blue Hole? 00:31:21.38\00:31:23.08 I have not since the hurricane. 00:31:23.11\00:31:24.45 No, have you been before? 00:31:24.48\00:31:25.81 I've been there before, many times. 00:31:25.85\00:31:27.18 All right, did you jump off the top? 00:31:27.22\00:31:28.55 I have not gotten the direction from God. 00:31:28.58\00:31:34.72 Well, I probably should have waited on that. 00:31:34.76\00:31:37.03 I jumped off of that. That's a long ways down. 00:31:37.06\00:31:39.89 I got some video of it we might end up showing it. 00:31:39.93\00:31:42.56 It just takes like a split second. 00:31:42.60\00:31:45.03 That is a long ways up. 00:31:45.07\00:31:46.70 You were there, and Reg and Lady number of folks 00:31:46.74\00:31:50.27 and so it was kind of a challenges 00:31:50.31\00:31:52.07 one of those things. 00:31:52.11\00:31:53.44 And I don't know how high it is. 00:31:53.48\00:31:54.81 But when you are up above, looking down, 00:31:54.84\00:31:56.31 it's like five times as... 00:31:56.34\00:31:57.98 It's a long ways up. I know that. 00:31:58.01\00:32:00.22 So I'm with Brother Warren and he says, "Yeah, go ahead." 00:32:00.25\00:32:03.92 And I said, "Man, that is a long ways down 00:32:03.95\00:32:05.89 and you're jumping into water, 600 feet deep. 00:32:05.92\00:32:09.22 And I didn't have any life jacket, 00:32:09.26\00:32:10.59 no spotters and people there. 00:32:10.63\00:32:12.09 But Reggi says, "We can do this." 00:32:12.13\00:32:14.56 So I'm like, "Oh, boy." so he took a long time. 00:32:14.60\00:32:17.33 But once he went I had to go. Yes. 00:32:17.37\00:32:19.50 And so I said, okay, we got to jump this. 00:32:19.53\00:32:21.70 But before we go Warren is like, 00:32:21.74\00:32:23.34 "Oh, yeah, you can go." 00:32:23.37\00:32:24.71 And I said, "Let me ask you a question, 00:32:24.74\00:32:26.07 Warren, do you jump off?" 00:32:26.11\00:32:27.44 He said, "No, black people don't do that. 00:32:27.48\00:32:29.04 We know better now. 00:32:29.08\00:32:31.05 We don't do stuff like that." 00:32:31.08\00:32:32.58 So I said, "Oh, no. What's this all about?" 00:32:32.61\00:32:35.18 But someone do, of course, and so I ended up jumping 00:32:35.22\00:32:37.85 and Lord bless we made it out alive. 00:32:37.89\00:32:40.02 So next time you are over there, 00:32:40.06\00:32:42.02 you have to remember that a guy older than you 00:32:42.06\00:32:44.13 has jumped off the Blue Hole. 00:32:44.16\00:32:45.66 But at least have life jackets. 00:32:45.69\00:32:47.86 That was easy part, jumping off 00:32:47.90\00:32:49.40 as trying to swim all the way back to the other shores 00:32:49.43\00:32:52.47 where about we are out and... 00:32:52.50\00:32:54.64 Yeah, that's... You didn't think about that. 00:32:54.67\00:32:56.30 I didn't think about that. 00:32:56.34\00:32:57.71 I thought that would be the easy part. 00:32:57.74\00:32:59.07 But that was a another ordeal. 00:32:59.11\00:33:01.14 So if you do it, go over there, get your life jacket. 00:33:01.18\00:33:03.95 But wonderful people in those islands. 00:33:03.98\00:33:05.61 And we made some friends, of course, 00:33:05.65\00:33:07.72 and you know, to think of this kind of devastation 00:33:07.75\00:33:11.52 and how we're gonna help those folks. 00:33:11.55\00:33:13.36 Absolutely. And so-- 00:33:13.39\00:33:14.79 We at 3ABN, I know you have some audio, 00:33:14.82\00:33:16.46 you have a several-minute video 00:33:16.49\00:33:18.13 and when you're ready, I like for the folk 00:33:18.16\00:33:19.93 to watch that and then we... 00:33:19.96\00:33:22.33 Well, let me say that we, within the conference, 00:33:22.36\00:33:27.80 our members have already begun to rally to the support. 00:33:27.84\00:33:34.14 We already begun to share 00:33:34.18\00:33:38.31 in making available necessary items 00:33:38.35\00:33:43.69 and when you look at 00:33:43.72\00:33:45.05 some of the pleas of the people, 00:33:45.09\00:33:46.49 we have some footage of a lady from Long Island 00:33:46.52\00:33:51.19 who, you know, she just-- she's just devastated. 00:33:51.23\00:33:55.86 And she makes a impassioned plea to come and help. 00:33:55.90\00:34:00.74 I mean, this was like within the day after 00:34:00.77\00:34:03.47 or two day after the hitting of the hurricane. 00:34:03.51\00:34:06.07 And so there are needs 00:34:06.11\00:34:10.41 because these people have lost their major investments, 00:34:10.45\00:34:14.72 which are their homes, cars and so the church, 00:34:14.75\00:34:21.82 you know, there's a saying I think, 00:34:21.86\00:34:23.56 Theodore Roosevelt made a statement 00:34:23.59\00:34:26.53 that "People don't want to know how much you know 00:34:26.56\00:34:32.63 until they know how much you care." 00:34:32.67\00:34:35.70 You know, and so as a church our responsibility 00:34:35.74\00:34:39.07 is to get in there and to help them 00:34:39.11\00:34:41.51 and the good thing about the Adventist Church 00:34:41.54\00:34:44.18 is that we are worldwide organization. 00:34:44.21\00:34:47.68 And so not only are we able to help 00:34:47.72\00:34:49.55 from local funds and all the rest of it 00:34:49.58\00:34:52.39 but our world church is able to help. 00:34:52.42\00:34:55.19 And so we just appeal to the world to help us 00:34:55.22\00:35:00.03 at this time because today it's us 00:35:00.06\00:35:03.93 and tomorrow it's you and as we help each other, 00:35:03.97\00:35:07.84 we're able to continue to move on. 00:35:07.87\00:35:10.94 One of the-- Pastor Carl Johnson, 00:35:10.97\00:35:13.48 who is a pastor there in Long Island. 00:35:13.51\00:35:15.01 He was interviewed by the cable company 00:35:15.04\00:35:19.78 and he asked, you know, "What is the greatest need?" 00:35:19.81\00:35:24.19 And one of the things that he mentioned was that, 00:35:24.22\00:35:27.02 you know, people are so-- 00:35:27.06\00:35:28.59 It's like they are waking up to this reality 00:35:28.62\00:35:32.29 that their minds can't even fathom it. 00:35:32.33\00:35:34.40 I don't have a house, 00:35:34.43\00:35:36.63 I don't have a roof over my head 00:35:36.67\00:35:39.37 because this just never happened. 00:35:39.40\00:35:41.84 And it makes you sensitive to this type of thing 00:35:41.87\00:35:46.74 and so families have had to re-locate 00:35:46.78\00:35:51.68 and to find family members in other islands. 00:35:51.71\00:35:55.45 And the question is when will we be 00:35:55.48\00:35:56.89 able to get back to our home. 00:35:56.92\00:36:00.12 And so we need building materials, 00:36:00.16\00:36:03.93 plywood and other things. 00:36:03.96\00:36:07.63 Counseling is something that has to be on going 00:36:07.66\00:36:10.30 with these people. 00:36:10.33\00:36:12.10 And so we just wanted as a church to be able to do 00:36:12.13\00:36:17.27 as much as we can. 00:36:17.31\00:36:18.91 And it's not just for, I mean, 00:36:18.94\00:36:22.04 it's all of the Bahamians in these islands, 00:36:22.08\00:36:25.41 and of course, there are visitors 00:36:25.45\00:36:26.78 who are there who lived there as well. 00:36:26.82\00:36:28.72 And when we do this, 00:36:28.75\00:36:32.89 then we are carrying out the mission 00:36:32.92\00:36:35.02 that Jesus has called us to. 00:36:35.06\00:36:36.59 Absolutely. 00:36:36.62\00:36:37.96 Addressing the needs of the people. 00:36:37.99\00:36:40.00 And then we can tell them about come follow us. 00:36:40.03\00:36:43.03 And that's what we want to be able to do. 00:36:43.06\00:36:44.93 Absolutely. 00:36:44.97\00:36:46.30 Why don't we go to the video that we have right now. 00:36:46.33\00:36:48.90 My dear brothers and sisters, 00:37:03.92\00:37:05.95 who just passed through a very devastating time 00:37:05.99\00:37:09.06 with hurricane Joaquin. 00:37:09.09\00:37:11.59 The true pictures and now you emerging 00:37:11.63\00:37:13.40 from Acklins and Crooked Island 00:37:13.43\00:37:15.23 in the far Southern islands of the Bahamas 00:37:15.26\00:37:18.87 and San Salvador to our East. 00:37:18.90\00:37:21.24 And the central part of Long Island. 00:37:21.27\00:37:25.74 Today, scores of our families are without homes, 00:37:25.77\00:37:30.15 without food, without clothing and without shelter. 00:37:30.18\00:37:34.95 Your generosity has proven 00:37:34.98\00:37:37.69 to make a difference thus far in their lives. 00:37:37.72\00:37:40.89 And I come to you again tonight, 00:37:40.92\00:37:43.02 asking for additional and continued offering 00:37:43.06\00:37:47.70 that will help to restore these, 00:37:47.73\00:37:50.90 our brothers and sisters within our churches 00:37:50.93\00:37:53.77 as well as it within the communities 00:37:53.80\00:37:55.94 to help them to get back on their feet. 00:37:55.97\00:37:59.67 As you see from these pictures and these videos 00:37:59.71\00:38:03.28 that would be seen this evening, 00:38:03.31\00:38:04.91 the devastation that has ripped the lives 00:38:04.95\00:38:07.48 of many of our Bahamians and citizens of our country, 00:38:07.52\00:38:11.89 as well as our guests or visitors 00:38:11.92\00:38:13.66 who live in these islands. 00:38:13.69\00:38:15.89 And so I appeal to every member to give 00:38:15.92\00:38:19.19 and to continue to give as we seek 00:38:19.23\00:38:21.66 to ease the burden 00:38:21.70\00:38:23.50 of those who have been affected by this devastating system 00:38:23.53\00:38:27.17 that passed through our country. 00:38:27.20\00:38:29.57 Listen to this plea. 00:38:29.60\00:38:31.84 We need cleaning products, a lot of bleach. 00:38:31.87\00:38:35.31 Everything, you think of a lot. 00:38:35.34\00:38:37.21 People don't even have clothes, 00:38:37.25\00:38:38.58 they kind of went through the hurricane 00:38:38.61\00:38:39.95 which is -- closing it back. 00:38:39.98\00:38:41.32 They dig in spoons and whatever through the bush, 00:38:41.35\00:38:45.79 generators, opened current sound coming down 00:38:45.82\00:38:49.22 as far as-- 00:38:49.26\00:38:50.89 The poles are gone. 00:38:50.93\00:38:52.26 We're gonna need some sort of assistance, 00:38:52.29\00:38:53.70 and that kind of way for a long time 00:38:53.73\00:38:55.86 battery operated things. 00:38:55.90\00:38:57.23 We're gonna need I guess kerosene lamps, 00:38:57.27\00:39:00.44 battery powered radios. 00:39:00.47\00:39:01.90 A lot of people right now are functioning 00:39:01.94\00:39:03.47 with next to nothing. 00:39:03.51\00:39:05.17 Any kind of medical supplies, medication would be fantastic. 00:39:05.21\00:39:08.94 The heart pills, the diabetes- 00:39:08.98\00:39:12.85 Right now, not just prayer, come here. 00:39:12.88\00:39:16.05 Don't just take photos of us, okay. 00:39:16.08\00:39:18.32 Where we are coming from right now, 00:39:18.35\00:39:20.26 we started out at day light, 00:39:20.29\00:39:22.39 okay to get from Scrub hill to get to Junky land 00:39:22.42\00:39:25.09 and we have boat, the only boat that survived 00:39:25.13\00:39:27.96 to get here to get the aid, to get it back up there. 00:39:28.00\00:39:30.97 It burst through the cement walls. 00:39:31.00\00:39:34.97 No one can tell you what that is until you see it. 00:39:35.00\00:39:37.44 It took-- the waves came, 00:39:37.47\00:39:39.71 it came through cement walls. 00:39:39.74\00:39:41.51 It carried everything. 00:39:41.54\00:39:42.88 And the people have very little left. 00:39:42.91\00:39:45.08 It is not funny. 00:39:45.11\00:39:46.65 survived somehow in terms of infrastructure 00:39:46.68\00:39:50.19 but nothing much out South. 00:39:50.22\00:39:51.99 When we come from here to go South, 00:39:52.02\00:39:54.39 you're gonna see devastation completely. 00:39:54.42\00:39:56.66 The roofs have gone, we need everything from rafters 00:39:56.69\00:39:59.09 to nails to all the man power you can think of. 00:39:59.13\00:40:02.16 Shovels, we need bleach by the cases. 00:40:02.20\00:40:05.47 If you could think of it, Long Island needs it. 00:40:05.50\00:40:08.10 It was Theodore Roosevelt who said, 00:40:08.14\00:40:10.21 "Nobody cares how much you know, 00:40:10.24\00:40:12.77 until they know how much you care." 00:40:12.81\00:40:16.14 Do you care? 00:40:16.18\00:40:17.71 Will you join hands with your administration 00:40:17.75\00:40:20.52 to continue to help to make a difference in Crooked Island, 00:40:20.55\00:40:25.02 in Acklins, in San Salvador, in Long Island 00:40:25.05\00:40:29.02 and other affected parts of our country 00:40:29.06\00:40:31.89 until everyone is brought back to the standard of living 00:40:31.93\00:40:36.63 that they were at before this hurricane passed? 00:40:36.67\00:40:40.60 May God bless you as you give generously 00:40:40.64\00:40:43.81 from the bottom of your hearts as we together hold hands, 00:40:43.84\00:40:49.51 we will emerge from this victoriously. 00:40:49.54\00:40:55.28 You know, I can't imagine losing everything. 00:40:55.32\00:40:58.65 We take so much for granted. 00:40:58.69\00:41:01.06 But losing everything, you-- 00:41:01.09\00:41:04.39 it's just, it's hard to wrap your mind around that. 00:41:04.43\00:41:06.76 Yeah. It is devastation. 00:41:06.80\00:41:09.93 But you know, I'm so thankful 00:41:09.96\00:41:12.33 that as a church that we are taught 00:41:12.37\00:41:15.97 by Jesus to care for one another. 00:41:16.00\00:41:17.51 Yes. 00:41:17.54\00:41:18.87 You said a while ago, today it's you, 00:41:18.91\00:41:20.24 tomorrow it's us. 00:41:20.28\00:41:21.78 And we all really should think about that. 00:41:21.81\00:41:23.81 Nobody is exempt 00:41:23.85\00:41:25.18 and we all have run into problems 00:41:25.21\00:41:27.02 but sometimes devastation 00:41:27.05\00:41:29.08 comes in greater measures than others. 00:41:29.12\00:41:31.92 There's just something we could do to help. 00:41:31.95\00:41:33.86 I know that you're needing churches re-built, 00:41:33.89\00:41:36.93 people needing homes re-built, 00:41:36.96\00:41:38.76 there maybe volunteers who construction people 00:41:38.79\00:41:41.16 who want to work, they can contact you. 00:41:41.20\00:41:43.30 You'll put up an address a little bit, Brother Paul, 00:41:43.33\00:41:45.70 that want to come there, maybe some one day churches, 00:41:45.73\00:41:48.44 is there any need for one day churches down there... 00:41:48.47\00:41:52.01 Certainly, the Crooked Island church 00:41:52.04\00:41:55.18 is gonna be a long time before that gets back up 00:41:55.21\00:41:58.08 to where it needs to be and so whatever 00:41:58.11\00:42:03.69 we can get to help them getting back to worshipping 00:42:03.72\00:42:08.26 and being the salt of the earth in that part of the area. 00:42:08.29\00:42:13.80 Certainly, we are open to... Sure. 00:42:13.83\00:42:18.83 She has named all kinds of items that need to be-- 00:42:18.87\00:42:21.14 They need but I think probably money, just finances, 00:42:21.17\00:42:24.74 we'll put your address up here in a few moments 00:42:24.77\00:42:26.68 so you can prepare for that. 00:42:26.71\00:42:28.41 And you contact them so they can get, 00:42:28.44\00:42:31.21 they know what they need rather than to me to-- 00:42:31.25\00:42:33.25 well, I guess I send batteries, 00:42:33.28\00:42:34.72 if everybody send batteries, we can't have anything else. 00:42:34.75\00:42:37.65 So in some cases, I think it would be better 00:42:37.69\00:42:39.49 to send the finances 00:42:39.52\00:42:40.86 that we would spend on buying whatever 00:42:40.89\00:42:43.22 and that let you all decide to where it needs to go 00:42:43.26\00:42:46.33 and how it can be used 00:42:46.36\00:42:48.80 to build these churches up, for one thing. 00:42:48.83\00:42:51.17 And but I mean, it is an amazing 00:42:51.20\00:42:53.17 to not only lose your home, you lose your church, 00:42:53.20\00:42:56.47 basically lose everything and you are uprooted 00:42:56.50\00:42:58.51 from your place that you live in 00:42:58.54\00:43:00.78 and live in with somebody else in other island 00:43:00.81\00:43:02.81 until you can get back home. 00:43:02.84\00:43:04.85 Yes. And... 00:43:04.88\00:43:06.21 I think it's easy, you know, to-- 00:43:06.25\00:43:08.68 For us here to kind of fall back into our routine, 00:43:08.72\00:43:12.35 we watch this, we see the devastation, 00:43:12.39\00:43:14.42 we're bothered by it and then we fall back into 00:43:14.46\00:43:17.69 instead of really accepting the call to help. 00:43:17.73\00:43:21.76 And so this is something 00:43:21.80\00:43:23.47 that we can't just put on the back burner, you know. 00:43:23.50\00:43:26.17 We have to do something. Okay. 00:43:26.20\00:43:28.77 Let me tell you a little story, a miracle story. 00:43:28.80\00:43:32.57 In one of the islands there was a-- 00:43:32.61\00:43:35.48 At the end of the real intense wind, 00:43:35.51\00:43:39.51 there was no food. 00:43:39.55\00:43:40.98 And one young lady, she had 00:43:41.02\00:43:44.65 I think two pieces of a fish head 00:43:44.69\00:43:49.16 left in her freezer. 00:43:49.19\00:43:51.76 And she took it and of course, 00:43:51.79\00:43:54.76 this was in area where we had about 00:43:54.80\00:43:57.20 40 or 50 people needing something to eat. 00:43:57.23\00:44:01.04 And they were able to get a little fire going, 00:44:01.07\00:44:03.67 and cooked the fish heads 00:44:03.71\00:44:07.11 and it was like the Last Supper and started to share it 00:44:07.14\00:44:11.81 and when she went back to the pot there was more fish. 00:44:11.85\00:44:14.48 Oh, come on now. 00:44:14.52\00:44:15.85 Seem like I've heard that story before, right? 00:44:15.88\00:44:17.59 In the Bible, Jesus and the loaves and fishes. 00:44:17.62\00:44:20.49 And that happened about four of five times. 00:44:20.52\00:44:24.63 And the Lord multiplied the fish. 00:44:24.66\00:44:26.66 Amen. 00:44:26.70\00:44:28.03 He is still in the business of creating miracles, huh? 00:44:28.06\00:44:30.33 So in the midst of all of this, 00:44:30.37\00:44:32.63 you know, God was able to re-affirm 00:44:32.67\00:44:35.50 the fact that He is God. 00:44:35.54\00:44:36.87 Yes. 00:44:36.91\00:44:38.24 And "He is able to supply all of our needs 00:44:38.27\00:44:40.94 according to His wisdom and His glory." 00:44:40.98\00:44:43.21 And so in the midst of tragedy, there's triumph. 00:44:43.24\00:44:46.82 Absolutely. 00:44:46.85\00:44:48.18 You know, and they are many stories like that, 00:44:48.22\00:44:51.19 that God just came through 00:44:51.22\00:44:53.52 that people are just grateful and saw Him work. 00:44:53.56\00:44:56.86 We look forward to getting some of those testimonies 00:44:56.89\00:44:59.09 maybe later in giving them 00:44:59.13\00:45:00.83 because it is great to see God in the midst of everything. 00:45:00.86\00:45:03.47 What we'd like to do, 00:45:03.50\00:45:04.83 we're gonna put up an address in a moment 00:45:04.87\00:45:06.43 but we have Mark Trammell 00:45:06.47\00:45:08.40 that we're privilege to have Mark to sing 00:45:08.44\00:45:10.74 from time to time for us here at 3ABN. 00:45:10.77\00:45:13.14 He received in Southern Gospel music, 00:45:13.17\00:45:16.54 the awards they give, 00:45:16.58\00:45:18.71 he's a baritone singer of the year 00:45:18.75\00:45:21.68 and his group, now it's Mark Trammell Quartet. 00:45:21.72\00:45:24.72 It's always a privilege to have Mark. 00:45:24.75\00:45:26.45 We're gonna have him sing a song. 00:45:26.49\00:45:27.82 It's a medley. 00:45:27.86\00:45:29.26 Giving praise and honor to Jesus, 00:45:29.29\00:45:30.99 we call it Jesus Medley. 00:45:31.03\00:45:32.46 But right after that we're gonna put up the address. 00:45:32.49\00:45:35.20 So we want you to be thinking now 00:45:35.23\00:45:36.73 and be praying about what is it that the Lord 00:45:36.77\00:45:38.43 would have you to do 00:45:38.47\00:45:40.30 and then I know He will impress you 00:45:40.34\00:45:42.47 what can we do to help our brothers and sisters 00:45:42.50\00:45:45.51 who really through this devastation. 00:45:45.54\00:45:48.58 There's many things that he says, 00:45:48.61\00:45:50.68 everything from physical to spiritual 00:45:50.71\00:45:53.05 from counseling to the physical, 00:45:53.08\00:45:55.82 to the finances that maybe some of us here, 00:45:55.85\00:45:58.69 we can send it. 00:45:58.72\00:46:00.06 We'll find out ways to do to the Bahamas. 00:46:00.09\00:46:01.86 I'm sure Paypal and other ways too. 00:46:01.89\00:46:04.19 But right after this song, we want to put up that address. 00:46:04.23\00:46:06.63 We want you to pray. 00:46:06.66\00:46:08.06 Ask the Lord what He would have you to do 00:46:08.10\00:46:10.43 to support our brothers and sisters and the Bahamas. 00:46:10.47\00:46:14.50 Right now, please be blessed by Brother Mark Trammell. 00:46:14.54\00:46:18.64 Fairest Lord Jesus 00:46:29.95\00:46:35.06 Ruler of all nature 00:46:35.09\00:46:40.03 O Thou of God 00:46:40.06\00:46:44.07 And man the Son 00:46:44.10\00:46:50.17 Thee will I cherish 00:46:50.21\00:46:55.18 Thee will I honor 00:46:55.21\00:46:59.65 Thou, my soul's glory, joy and crown 00:46:59.68\00:47:07.59 How have my shameful failure and loss 00:47:16.50\00:47:24.51 Jesus I come Jesus I come 00:47:24.54\00:47:32.45 Into the glorious gain of Thy cross 00:47:32.48\00:47:40.12 Jesus I come to Thee 00:47:40.16\00:47:47.23 Out of earth's sorrows into Thy balm 00:47:48.70\00:47:56.30 Out of life's storms and into Thy calm 00:47:56.34\00:48:04.28 Out of distress to jubilant psalm 00:48:05.98\00:48:13.59 Jesus, I come to Thee 00:48:13.62\00:48:21.60 He drew me closer to His side 00:48:26.77\00:48:34.74 I sought His will to know 00:48:35.31\00:48:43.28 And in that will I now abide 00:48:43.32\00:48:51.23 Wherever He leads I'll go 00:48:51.26\00:48:58.77 Wherever He leads I'll go 00:48:59.80\00:49:07.78 Wherever He leads I'll go 00:49:07.81\00:49:15.68 I'll follow my Christ 00:49:16.05\00:49:20.19 Who loves me so 00:49:20.22\00:49:24.69 Wherever He leads I'll go 00:49:24.73\00:49:32.67 I'll follow my Christ 00:49:33.67\00:49:38.07 Who loves me so 00:49:38.11\00:49:45.31 Wherever He leads 00:49:47.98\00:49:55.16 I'll go 00:49:55.19\00:50:03.16 If you would like to contact Paul Scavella, 00:50:18.68\00:50:20.95 write to the South Bahamas Conference 00:50:20.98\00:50:22.98 of Seventh-day Adventists. 00:50:23.02\00:50:24.62 Post office Box N-356, 00:50:24.65\00:50:27.42 Tonique Williams Darling Highway, 00:50:27.46\00:50:29.62 Nassau, Bahamas. 00:50:29.66\00:50:31.36 That's South Bahamas Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. 00:50:31.39\00:50:34.66 Post office Box N-356, 00:50:34.70\00:50:37.63 Tonique Williams Darling Highway, 00:50:37.67\00:50:39.83 Nassau, Bahamas. 00:50:39.87\00:50:41.47 You can call (242) 341-4021. 00:50:41.50\00:50:45.44 That's (242) 341-4021. 00:50:45.47\00:50:49.91 Or you can email him at president@sbcadventist.com 00:50:49.94\00:50:55.65 That's president@sbcadventist.com 00:50:55.68\00:51:03.02 Well, first of all big thank you to Mark Trammell. 00:51:04.26\00:51:07.00 That's beautiful. Wherever He leads me I will go. 00:51:07.03\00:51:09.80 And so really, that's what it's about today 00:51:09.83\00:51:12.67 and I feel blessed that you are here today 00:51:12.70\00:51:15.60 and you're giving us an opportunity 00:51:15.64\00:51:18.57 to help our brothers and sisters 00:51:18.61\00:51:20.08 who is less fortunate than we are right now. 00:51:20.11\00:51:22.68 As-- and again may come a point 00:51:22.71\00:51:25.28 that some of you or us 00:51:25.31\00:51:27.42 may need those brothers and sisters 00:51:27.45\00:51:29.38 and their back on their feet to support us 00:51:29.42\00:51:32.35 and I want to talk to you about the addresses there. 00:51:32.39\00:51:35.06 I think if you go to Paypal, 00:51:35.09\00:51:37.66 you can send money from anywhere in the world 00:51:37.69\00:51:40.16 that can get to your Conference 00:51:40.20\00:51:42.06 'cause that's what we've been doing 00:51:42.10\00:51:43.43 as people support us conversion money, 00:51:43.47\00:51:46.27 conversion overseas has always been a difficult thing 00:51:46.30\00:51:49.67 but now through going to computer 00:51:49.70\00:51:51.47 and look, going Paypal, 00:51:51.51\00:51:53.17 we are able to so people can support 00:51:53.21\00:51:55.38 your Conference anywhere 00:51:55.41\00:51:56.98 I think in the world through Paypal. 00:51:57.01\00:51:59.51 Yes, and once they make contact with us 00:51:59.55\00:52:03.08 we can give them that information 00:52:03.12\00:52:06.19 to help process, yes, any support. 00:52:06.22\00:52:09.92 We've got about a minute left before we go to our news break. 00:52:09.96\00:52:13.13 What would you want our viewers right now, 00:52:13.16\00:52:14.70 what would you like to say to them, 00:52:14.73\00:52:16.06 look in to that camera. 00:52:16.10\00:52:17.70 Well, we just believe that 00:52:17.73\00:52:20.74 it's a privilege to be a part of the family of God 00:52:20.77\00:52:23.81 and when one part of the family is hurting, 00:52:23.84\00:52:28.04 the entire family hurts. 00:52:28.08\00:52:30.48 And your efforts to support the islands 00:52:30.51\00:52:35.02 that have been affected in the South Bahamas Conference 00:52:35.05\00:52:37.99 is certainly something that you have the opportunity to do. 00:52:38.02\00:52:42.79 And it will help to advance God's kingdom 00:52:42.82\00:52:47.63 in this part of the world, 00:52:47.66\00:52:49.80 and to help to get people back on their feet 00:52:49.83\00:52:53.44 so that they can continue to serve 00:52:53.47\00:52:57.47 and to be a part of God's plan for their lives. 00:52:57.51\00:53:01.14 And so as God impresses you, please help us 00:53:01.18\00:53:07.85 there in the South Bahamas Conference 00:53:07.88\00:53:10.49 to help the peoples in these affected islands 00:53:10.52\00:53:13.56 to get back on their feet 00:53:13.59\00:53:16.26 so that they can continue their lives in service to God 00:53:16.29\00:53:20.66 and as the blessings come, 00:53:20.70\00:53:25.53 our praise will indeed be lifted. 00:53:25.57\00:53:29.44 And thank God for all that you have done 00:53:29.47\00:53:32.67 to help our people 00:53:32.71\00:53:34.31 in the South Bahamas Conference. 00:53:34.34\00:53:36.31 Absolutely. 00:53:36.34\00:53:37.68 Right now, we're gonna go to news break 00:53:37.71\00:53:39.45 and then come back with the closing thought. 00:53:39.48\00:53:41.62