3ABN Today

God and Technology

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Andrew DePaula & Scott Sassonne

Home

Series Code: TDY

Program Code: TDY015078A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:05 Spend my life.
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord let my words
00:27 Let my words
00:30 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people.
01:06 Hello I'm Shelley Quinn
01:07 and welcome again to 3ABN Today.
01:10 We're so glad that you're joining us
01:12 as you do each and every day.
01:13 And just wanna thank you for your prayers
01:16 and your financial support of this ministry.
01:18 Today, we have an exciting program.
01:20 We're gonna be talking about some exciting new technology
01:24 that God has seen fit to put into the hands of Adventists,
01:28 and this is patented technology nobody else has,
01:32 and you'll see why, as we go into this.
01:35 It is something that I believe God meant for the end times.
01:40 It reminds me of a scripture in, Daniel 12:4,
01:44 where the angel tells Daniel, "You, Daniel,
01:47 shut up the words and seal the book
01:51 until the time of the end."
01:52 Many will run to and fro and knowledge shall increase.
01:57 Of course, I believe here, he's referring to the idea
02:00 that as they're running to and fro studying,
02:03 that God's going to increase the light on their path,
02:07 but I also think that we can tell,
02:11 as we look around, we know
02:12 we're in the final hours of earth's history.
02:14 Because prophecy is being fulfilled everywhere we look.
02:18 And knowledge is increasing and I believe
02:22 its part of God's design, so that we can get the gospel
02:26 to all of the world before He returns.
02:29 Without further ado, let me introduce our special guest.
02:32 First we have Andrew DePaula, and Andrew
02:35 you are the president of a remarkable company,
02:39 called IntelliPaper.
02:41 Yes, ma'am, God has given me that privilege.
02:43 And it is very special.
02:45 Give me, if you had to tell me what IntelliPaper was
02:49 in 18 words or less, what would say?
02:53 I'm gonna put you on the spot.
02:54 We make paper USB thumb drives.
02:58 There you go. Paper USB thumb drives.
03:01 And people are out there are going, "What?"
03:03 We'll tell them all about it, shortly.
03:05 Yes, and we also have the CEO of the company who is with us.
03:10 And that's Scott Sassone.
03:11 Scott, how long have you been with IntelliPaper?
03:14 Been with IntelliPaper for a year now.
03:16 We have friends, common friends on the board of directors
03:19 who introduced me to this remarkable technology
03:21 and this remarkable opportunity
03:23 for sharing the gospel with the world.
03:25 Oh, wonderful.
03:26 Well and, Andrew, how long have you been working on this?
03:29 Oh, boy.
03:31 God gave me the idea for IntelliPaper
03:32 in January of 2008.
03:34 In 2008.
03:36 And we're gonna get to hear the whole miracle story
03:40 behind this incredible product and what the potential,
03:45 it's a mind blowing potential.
03:47 Truly, it is.
03:48 But before we jump into this story
03:51 and get to know these two gentlemen better,
03:53 we're going to have a beautiful song,
03:56 a beautiful song that is going to be done by pianist,
04:00 Johan Sentana.
04:02 And he is going to play "Be thou my vision."
07:09 Beautiful, I love his simple style on the piano.
07:12 It's just very, very gracious.
07:15 Well, if you're just joining us,
07:17 today our special guests are Andrew DePaula
07:19 and Scott Sessone.
07:21 And I had the great pleasure
07:23 of getting to know these two gentlemen yesterday.
07:25 We spend a good deal of time in meetings
07:28 and I think you're gonna love them
07:30 as your brothers in Christ just as I do.
07:33 So before we jump into the remarkable gift
07:38 that God has put in your hand, this remarkable tool.
07:42 Let's get to know you a little bit better.
07:44 Why don't you share
07:45 a little of your background, Andrew.
07:47 Alright, Shelley, so I was born in the US,
07:51 but, you know, that's all I can really claim.
07:55 I grew up in West Africa.
07:57 My parents were missionaries and so I spent
08:00 the first 18 years of my life overseas, between,
08:04 you know, the years in Africa which were about 12,
08:07 little bit of academy in South America
08:11 and then I spent a little bit of time in Europe
08:12 before coming back to the States for college.
08:16 And, you know, it's interesting,
08:18 people talk about missionary experience
08:21 and they're like, "Oh, what was that like,"
08:23 and I would never trade that for anything.
08:25 Did you develop a personal relationship
08:29 during this time, or was it--
08:31 I mean, with Jesus.
08:33 Was your relationship,
08:34 at what age did it really become personal
08:36 and not just something
08:37 being handed down by your parents?
08:39 You know, I had sort of three steps in that process
08:43 that I can look back at, specifically.
08:45 The first one was when I realized
08:47 for the first time at the age of 11
08:49 that God was real.
08:50 Okay.
08:52 And that was a miracle,
08:53 if you don't mind I'll share just briefly.
08:54 Sure.
08:56 I had a temper.
08:57 I was the oldest of three siblings
09:00 and I was a bit of a bully.
09:01 I'm sad to say.
09:03 And so, you know, it wasn't anything too serious,
09:06 but, you know, my brother and sister
09:08 would get on my nerves and I'd whack them
09:09 or you know do something not nice.
09:12 And my mom you know was trying to get me to stop this
09:15 and she kept telling me, "You know, Andrew,
09:17 you can't change your own heart,
09:18 God is the one that's got to do that."
09:20 Amen.
09:21 And she's like, you know, and I'd be sorry,
09:26 you know, I'd meet my mom at the door,
09:27 I was like, alright spank me, I was bad.
09:31 You were quite different than I was.
09:33 You know, you can't help yourself.
09:35 You can't help yourself
09:36 when you're trying to do things on your own.
09:38 And my mom would tell me, it's like,
09:40 "Son, you can't, you can't do this on your own.
09:43 You got to ask Jesus for help."
09:45 Its like, "When those feeling start to come
09:46 send up a prayer."
09:48 So one day I remember, I actually remember
09:50 exactly where I was in the house and my sister,
09:53 I think it was, had done something
09:55 and I'm getting ready to haul off and,
09:57 you know, clobber her and then my mom's words,
10:00 you know, go back through my head and,
10:01 so I sent up a prayer,
10:03 you know, like Nehemiah in that instant.
10:06 And it's incredible, all of a sudden it was gone.
10:10 That just, you know, that irritableness
10:12 that wells up inside of you was just, it was gone.
10:15 Just like, gone.
10:17 I had to sit down and I realized in that instant
10:21 that God was real.
10:23 Praise the Lord.
10:24 And that, you know, all of this stuff
10:25 that I believed, but it was only because of my parents
10:28 and my upbringing was actually real.
10:31 So fast forward to academy and I,
10:37 you know, moved away from home, went to a boarding school,
10:40 in one of our Adventist boarding schools
10:41 in South America, in Brazil,
10:43 and, you know, I'm uprooted from my family.
10:46 I'd never been away from home before
10:48 and so I took this step and choose
10:51 to transfer my anchor from my family to my church.
10:55 So I studied and I became a baptized member
10:59 at the age of 14.
11:00 But, you know, you're young, you have friends,
11:02 you have life, it's exciting
11:03 and all this different things happen
11:04 and so you kind of coast along and then I guess,
11:07 you know, what I date my present experience
11:09 from as an experience
11:11 I had between my first and second year in college.
11:13 I had a summer camp in Arizona,
11:15 where I was just telling Scott about this,
11:19 the whole structure camp was geared to help these,
11:23 you know, young campers experience God
11:27 and make a decision for him.
11:28 Now I was a councilor at this camp, you know.
11:30 Helping with the staff and stuff.
11:32 That summer, in addition to reading
11:34 "Desire of ages" for our morning devotionals,
11:36 I was involved in the summer camp
11:38 and I saw God changing kids left and right.
11:40 And just observing that happening changed me.
11:43 And, you know, coming back from that experience,
11:46 back to Walla Walla for my second year,
11:48 I decided, you know, I gotta get serious
11:50 about my Christian experience and my relationship with God.
11:54 So did you ever consider being pastor
11:56 or did you feel like you were called in any of that way?
11:59 You know, that was my quandary.
12:00 I mean, I came back,
12:01 you know, wanting to do something for God,
12:03 you know, on fire for him,
12:04 but I never felt like my talents were in,
12:07 you know, what we often call the sacred professions,
12:10 you know, preaching, teaching, nursing, doctor,
12:14 you know, those kinds of things.
12:16 And I wrestled with this,
12:18 I remember distinctly, for months.
12:20 And finally I just threw up my hands and said,
12:22 well, you know, I guess
12:23 I'll just be the best engineer I can be,
12:25 'cause that's what I, you know, I was training to be.
12:28 And serve God, you know, as a lay person and in,
12:32 you know, whatever support capacity I can,
12:35 'cause I'm not cut out to be any of those other things
12:37 that, you know, we so stereo typically associate with,
12:40 with evangelism and outreach and what not.
12:43 But God had very different ideas.
12:45 Boy, he did, indeed.
12:47 So he took your training
12:48 and we'll come back in just a second
12:51 to see how God kind of redirected him
12:54 into the area of technology and what he's done with that.
12:58 Scott, tell us just a little bit about you.
13:01 Thanks, Shelley.
13:02 And I'd like to add in the context
13:04 of what I've just learnt about my colleague here.
13:06 We been working side by side for almost a year now
13:09 and these are some fresh insights into the life
13:12 and character of a guy that I've come to know
13:14 and respect here.
13:16 How old were you when you had that little epiphany,
13:18 with regard to your relationship to Jesus
13:19 before academy?
13:21 Eleven.
13:22 Eleven, so praise the Lord, right?
13:25 That there is a gospel, there is a Savior,
13:26 there is a God out there that can reach even--
13:29 An 11-year-old. Amen. Eleven-year-olds.
13:31 I come to you from beautiful South Lancaster,
13:32 Massachusetts, where I'm happy to report
13:35 that Christian education is alive and well.
13:37 Yes.
13:39 My wife is an educator over Browning Academy.
13:42 We began a Building for Eternity campaign
13:45 for South Lancaster Academy out there.
13:47 And much of our lives have revolved around
13:50 helping young people, right?
13:52 Develop that relationship with Jesus,
13:54 knowing him personally.
13:55 Like Andrew had there,
13:57 leading up to his experience in the academy.
14:00 I was raised in another God-fearing family,
14:03 not of this denomination.
14:05 Where my mama taught me early on to have respect for God
14:09 and that seed was watered year over year over year
14:11 until the Lord brought somebody right across
14:13 the path of my life at a hallway at work.
14:16 Who simply asked, "How are you doing, Scott?"
14:18 I wasn't doing well at that time,
14:20 but I gave him the pat answer, "I'm doing fine."
14:23 And he grabbed me by the shoulders and said,
14:24 "Scott, you don't look like you're doing fine.
14:26 How are you doing?"
14:28 And that Christian fellow, Paul Smith,
14:30 and his God-fearing wife Dolore were my first step back
14:34 to the rest of my life here as a member
14:36 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
14:38 Praise God. Yes.
14:39 Now you also, you got an engineering degree from MIT?
14:43 I did my post-graduate work there
14:44 and that's the hallway where Paul Smith grabbed me
14:48 and, you know, in the middle of an academic institution
14:51 that excels in, I'll say intellectual pursuits.
14:54 God has a bastion of Christianity there with,
14:57 I'll say, the complete intellectual pursuit
15:00 that extents to the spiritual, right?
15:02 It'll combine what we know
15:04 and do here in this world with the spiritual.
15:06 Absolutely. Absolutely. And the world to come.
15:08 Well, now let's talk about IntelliPaper.
15:13 Let's talk about the direction God took you in technology
15:18 so that you could found IntelliPaper.
15:20 So I graduated from Wall Walla
15:22 with an electrical engineering degree,
15:24 you know, I met my wife there, I mean you can call it
15:26 Western Wedding College after all.
15:29 Along with a few other nice things
15:30 and I mean, it was a great school.
15:32 I loved my experience there, but,
15:34 you know, I'm a circuit board, circuit designer.
15:37 Digital electronics was, you know,
15:38 what I was in love with and I worked a couple of years
15:42 right out of school in the field
15:44 and I used to tell my wife that I go to work to play.
15:47 'Cause I love doing that. And so moved to Portland.
15:53 Ended up working at our Adventist hospital there
15:55 doing some information technology related stuff
15:58 which, you know, when you have an engineering degree,
16:02 you get a lot of background and training
16:05 in a lot of different supporting areas
16:07 and so I'd picked up a lot of that stuff
16:09 and so I was able to work there.
16:11 I feel like God was still, had me in school,
16:14 'cause, you know, later on, a lot of these skills
16:16 would really come to be useful,
16:18 but I learned all about telephony,
16:20 learned all about networking, learned all about Unix server
16:25 and system administration.
16:27 And then, through an incredibly
16:29 providential set of circumstances,
16:30 God called me
16:32 to the Upper Columbia Conference
16:34 where I was privileged to work with bibleinfo.com
16:36 Now that was not an easy decision,
16:38 because, you know, here I am making good money.
16:41 Yes.
16:42 In a, you know, a profession that,
16:45 you know, pays reasonably well
16:48 and so I ended up taking probably a 50 percent pay cut.
16:51 But, you know, we don't have time
16:54 for the whole story of that part of it here,
16:56 but God closed a whole bunch of doors
16:58 and gave me the boot.
17:01 Encouragement
17:02 Encouragement to get over to that job
17:05 that he wanted me to get there and through the first--
17:08 Now tell us bibleinfo.com the one that was?
17:12 Yeah, so bibleinfo.com is a website ministry,
17:15 still exists today.
17:16 You can go there.
17:18 At the time,
17:19 it was one of the premier Adventist websites
17:21 where you could get Bible information.
17:23 Topical Bible studies.
17:24 Topical, yeah, so, what does the Bible have to say about.
17:27 Death. Anything.
17:29 And there would be a short collection of verses,
17:31 little bit of glue text in between.
17:33 Not only that, but they had a team of volunteers
17:36 that answered Bible question and prayer request.
17:38 It was a really, really powerful ministry.
17:41 And so they needed, I mean they'd grown,
17:44 you know, it came out of an idea for an 800 number.
17:48 You know, Bible information line they use to call it,
17:50 that was a response to, I think,
17:53 the Waco incident in Texas and some of the bad press
17:56 that Adventist were getting at the time.
17:58 And, you know, this had grown little by little
18:00 and by the year 2000,
18:02 which is when I was called to work there.
18:06 They had grown to the point where they couldn't outsource
18:09 their technology anymore and they needed someone
18:11 to really come and, you know, help the ministry grow
18:14 by laying a good, solid, technical foundation.
18:17 And so that was the call that God gave me
18:20 and it made it very clear
18:21 that that's where he wanted me to go.
18:24 To the point of even picking the house
18:26 that we live in for us and number of other things.
18:29 So at bibleinfo I began,
18:31 of course, to do the work assigned to me
18:33 and I don't think that it was more than a year,
18:36 I feel in love with using technology in ministry.
18:39 Yes.
18:40 I mean, here was a place where I could exercise
18:43 my talents, my skills, that I felt
18:46 that I was blessed with by God,
18:49 in a way that directly affected the salvation of people.
18:52 I mean, I would see it everyday,
18:53 you know, I'd write code and it would go out
18:55 on the internet and do something
18:57 and then here would be someone
18:58 that would make the decision for Christ as a result of,
19:01 you know, at least facilitated by,
19:03 I mean the Holy Spirit does the work.
19:04 But facilitated by this code that I've written
19:07 or these servers that I've put together,
19:09 or, you know, a whole host of stuff like that
19:11 and that just--
19:13 So you found out that you were in a sacred profession.
19:14 I was. I was at a sacred profession after all.
19:17 You know, as an engineer.
19:19 And so, you know, fast forward a couple more years
19:24 and one day God gave me, I was leafing through a catalog
19:27 and I saw these, you know, CD, recordable CDs,
19:33 you know, they have the round ones
19:34 and whatever, that's normal, but then
19:36 there were these square ones, I'm like oh, that's cool.
19:38 So I ordered a few just for fun and ended up
19:40 putting the entire website on these CDs
19:43 and we ended up with a little business card
19:45 that you could hold in your hand and give away
19:50 but it had the whole website on it in all the languages,
19:54 and including six languages of the Bible.
19:58 And it was a hit, it was an instant hit.
20:02 We decided, you know, this is a great sharing tool and so.
20:06 I think we've got a picture of that,
20:07 I just want the people to see, there it is.
20:09 Absolutely. How tiny that was.
20:10 So, you know, these square CDs,
20:11 you know, you could fit them I your pocket,
20:13 but you can, you know, they would fit in a tray,
20:16 right in the computer and then you could read
20:19 the whole content of the website.
20:20 They were kind of conversational,
20:22 conversation builders as well,
20:25 because they were tiny and unique.
20:26 They had a pizzazz, a draw that was not,
20:32 it was more than just the fact that it was a CD.
20:34 I could give these things away, back in the day, to anybody.
20:38 I mean, I'd have them in my pocket
20:40 and then I'd sit next to someone in the plane,
20:42 or at the grocery store, I'd make conversation
20:44 and people would take these
20:46 that would probably have never taken a GLOW tract
20:48 or a brochure something like that,
20:50 'cause there's, you know, a lot of barriers
20:52 that people build or have around them,
20:54 about sharing tools.
20:56 So we decided that we were gonna make this available
20:59 to the membership and so we put together a program
21:01 and little bit of marketing effort
21:03 and we were giving these, making these available
21:06 for a dollar a piece to members
21:09 and they were going like hot cakes.
21:10 And I remember ordering them,
21:12 you know, 20-30 thousand at a time
21:15 and, you know, two months later we'd do it again.
21:18 And one day I called up
21:20 to order the next 20-30 thousand
21:23 and the manufacture in Hong Kong said,
21:25 you know, "I'm really sorry,
21:26 but we can't make these anymore."
21:29 And they told me a story that I couldn't believe,
21:31 it was a squabble between two companies
21:33 that claimed to own the patent on the square CD
21:36 and so they had to shut down manufacturing
21:38 while they sorted out this fight,
21:40 while technology moves on and I never heard
21:43 what happened, but, you know, CD trays went away,
21:46 I mean, now you're hard put to find a CD drive
21:48 in a computer anymore and I was disgusted.
21:51 I was just totally disgusted, because I felt
21:53 like the devil had pulled the rug out from under us.
21:56 And just when we had something
21:57 that was really gonna work well, it was all shut down.
22:02 Yes.
22:04 What you didn't know is God's really giving you a boot.
22:08 And we know that God does some of his best creative work
22:10 out of nothing.
22:12 And now Andrew and his ministry
22:13 basically didn't have the medium.
22:15 They had nothing with which,
22:16 to help equip the folks to share the gospel.
22:19 And out of that nothing came an idea.
22:21 Yeah. So fast forward four years.
22:23 All this time this has been bugging me.
22:26 Four years, it's been bugging me.
22:28 So I like new technology.
22:31 I like keeping up on the latest and greatest things
22:33 and one of the places I've had the privilege
22:35 of going a few times is CES, Consumer Electronic Show.
22:39 It's in January every year and it's this huge convention
22:43 where you can see anything that has to do
22:47 with consumer electronics of any kind.
22:49 Even things that will never be on the market, because,
22:52 you know, they're there just as a show-and-tell,
22:53 maybe they don't get traction or whatever,
22:55 so I mean, just everything is there.
22:57 And usually if you see something there it's--
23:00 An engineer's dream vacation, huh?
23:02 It's a playground. Yes.
23:03 Disney land for engineers, there you go.
23:05 There you go.
23:06 You know, you get and six months down the road,
23:10 you know, you might see it on the market.
23:12 You know, you saw it first in CES.
23:13 So I went specifically that January to find USB technology
23:19 that I could buy for less than a dollar.
23:22 A USB, just standard USB thumb drive that we have
23:26 and use all the time.
23:28 I, you know, we had the financial model
23:30 for this worked really well,
23:31 you know, we were able to purchase them
23:33 for sixty-ish cents, you know, in bulk.
23:36 We were able to sell them for a dollar to the members,
23:39 cover the costs of distribution.
23:40 We didn't make any money on them,
23:42 but it broke even and it worked really well.
23:44 And so that model, I knew intuitively
23:47 that we needed to find something,
23:49 if we were going to use USB technology,
23:50 because at that time, back in '08,
23:52 USB thumb drives were starting to show up
23:54 in giveaways and different things.
23:56 And they're cool, you know, they're new they're neat,
23:58 you know, they were replacing the floppy disks,
24:00 you know, they weren't using those anymore.
24:02 And so I though, shoot,
24:04 if I can get a 100,000 of these,
24:08 you know, at 75 cents a piece or something from China,
24:12 then we can load bibleinfo.com on all of these thumb drives
24:15 and share them like the leaves of autumn
24:17 and the whole model works all over again.
24:19 It's got the same wow factor, the same cool factor.
24:23 Well, I canvassed everybody
24:25 that had anything to do with USB at CES.
24:28 I think I must have walked 20 miles.
24:30 My wife was with me and we were both foot sore
24:32 by the time we were done.
24:34 I mean, we visited SanDisk, we visited,
24:36 you know, all of the big names and all the little people
24:39 from China that were, you know, they have pavilions
24:41 just full of these vendors, and what I found out was
24:46 that USB technology could not be purchased
24:49 for less than three dollars a unit, period.
24:51 Which was cost prohibitive. Which was cost prohibitive.
24:54 Which actually turned out to be good news.
24:55 Yes.
24:57 So I'm back in my hotel room, just totally disgusted
25:01 and disappointed and fiddling with my name badge
25:05 and there's lump in it.
25:07 I'm like, this is weird so I tear it apart
25:09 and there is a chip inside
25:10 with little antennas on both sides,
25:12 it was an RFID tag.
25:15 They've been tracking us through the whole show.
25:18 Through our name badges, you know, you register,
25:19 they know who you are and so, you know,
25:21 they know which booths you visited and everything
25:24 and in that moment it hit me, I'm like,
25:26 if they can do that with a name badge,
25:28 why can't I make a USB drive out of paper.
25:32 And so that was the God moment.
25:34 That was the epiphany that launched,
25:36 you know, what's been now almost a eight-year journey
25:38 of building IntelliPaper the company.
25:40 So you, the Lord gives you this idea
25:44 and when we're talking about a USB that's out of paper,
25:47 it's kind of think of it like it's cardboard.
25:52 Actually you've got something. Yeah, I've got one.
25:54 Here is a business card
25:56 that's a standard paper business card,
25:59 but if I fold it in half, like this.
26:03 Let's see if we can get camera in on this?
26:05 Yeah.
26:06 I think you're gonna have to lift it up,
26:07 the flowers are in the way.
26:09 So you're taking your standard business card.
26:10 So I take my business card and I fold it in half, like so,
26:16 and now I can plug it in to a USB port
26:18 on a computer, just like.
26:19 Do you have this on a something?
26:22 We got some B-roll actually that.
26:23 Let's look at that. Then again they can see that again.
26:25 Look at that footage.
26:26 So you can just turn a business card into--
26:29 Or any paper card for that matter.
26:31 Oh, any paper card. Here we go. Yes. Here we go.
26:32 This is a one of IntelliPaper's products The Great Hope.
26:36 And you can see that as you bend that,
26:40 you can end up with a USB.
26:43 And that just is amazing.
26:45 And so it will probably get plugged in here you'll see how.
26:47 Plugged in.
26:50 And you can think of this kind of like a key
26:54 that then unlocks this vault of treasures
26:57 on this great hope.
26:58 You can download the--
27:01 Almost any kind of content that you can produce
27:03 and put in that vault, you can share with other people.
27:06 So this particular, when you have this product,
27:09 you have the PDF file.
27:12 You can then download the audio.
27:14 The Great Hope is one of the sharing books
27:15 that we've had for a while and so what we've done
27:18 is we've distilled it to a card, you know,
27:21 so here is a pack of them right here
27:23 and we on that we have the PDF, the Kindle file,
27:27 the epub file and the MP3 audio files.
27:32 That's amazing.
27:34 All in one paper card that can be easily handed out.
27:36 That's amazing.
27:38 Okay, so kind of let's back up a just a minute,
27:39 I think we jumped up, but the, so, you,
27:44 God gave you the idea
27:46 of how to do this incredible product.
27:49 You began the business.
27:51 Tell us about
27:52 some of the beginning of the business.
27:56 Well, so when the idea was given to me,
28:00 you know, you're an engineer, you go to school and you learn,
28:04 you know, a broad range of topics.
28:07 You know, you're not a specialist
28:08 necessarily in any particular thing.
28:10 Well, this particular product needed a few specialties
28:14 that I wasn't, you know, up on.
28:16 So I have spent an entire year researching that.
28:20 One of the first things I needed to determine
28:22 was whether the cost would work.
28:24 You know, I knew from the experience bibleinfo CD
28:27 that we had to, we had to be able to make these
28:30 for less than a dollar.
28:32 In volume, in time, you know, scale and all that.
28:35 And so I spent a long time researching the components
28:39 that would go into this, what they would cost,
28:41 the raw material, all of that.
28:43 And when I finally convinced myself
28:46 that this was a viable idea, then went to,
28:51 there is a program in Washington State
28:52 called the innovation assessment program
28:54 that's run through Washington State University,
28:56 and so they'll take your idea
28:58 and they'll do some market research
29:00 and they'll do a patent search and they have a team of experts
29:04 and it's all under nondisclosure, evaluate it
29:06 and then they grade, they score it.
29:08 And if you're, if you get the speck is
29:11 if you get 50 percent or higher,
29:13 that's market valuable.
29:15 IntelliPaper scored 75 percent on this.
29:17 Wonderful.
29:18 So on the strength of that, I filed for two patents
29:22 on the idea and this was, you know, the incredible thing,
29:24 Shelley, because when I went into this space
29:27 and I started researching it I said, I can't believe
29:30 no ones ever thought of this before,
29:33 and, you know, the patent search came back etcetera,
29:35 there was a gapping hole in the IP space where,
29:39 you know, this is now squarely plugged of course
29:41 with our patents, but nobody had done this before.
29:46 So on the strength of that, I filed two patents
29:48 and then I began working on the technology.
29:50 It took us three years to get a first working prototype.
29:54 And so the summer of 2011, I held in my hands
29:59 for the first time, real working business cards
30:02 that had all the pieces.
30:04 And one of the key components that we had is,
30:07 you know, every chip, every chip that is made is,
30:13 you know, starts as a silicon wafer,
30:16 and here is a silicon wafer of our chip.
30:18 There's 5,500 little chips and I think we a picture of,
30:21 you know, how small they are, that we can show briefly,
30:24 they're next to a penny.
30:26 That's amazing.
30:27 There's 5,500--
30:29 More than 5,500. That is amazing.
30:33 And you cut these by hand? No. No. No.
30:36 I thought you told me that you were trying to automate them.
30:38 No, this is standard chip technology.
30:42 All the other electronics we have, cameras, televisions,
30:45 phones, everything have silicon chips in them,
30:48 and they all start their life as these wafers.
30:51 But we had to pull
30:53 special finishing technologies together.
30:57 We had to work with the manufactures
31:00 to create these minuscule little chips,
31:03 for us to do very precise specification,
31:05 so that, you know, they could be put into paper
31:09 instead of, you know, sorted down on a circuit boards.
31:11 Right.
31:12 And we don't need to get too,
31:14 we've go people out here going, "What's a USB?"
31:17 We don't want to get too technical,
31:19 but do answer that question for a moment,
31:22 'cause I know they're people, you'll see
31:24 that there is such an incredible opportunity
31:27 for ministry in this.
31:29 What is a USB
31:31 and then why is it exciting that this is a paper USB?
31:35 So USB stands for universal serial bus
31:39 and that's a technical term that simple means,
31:41 it's a plug that every computer has that you can put stuff in
31:47 to transfer data and information.
31:50 And so...
31:51 So these are also known as flask drive, they're known--
31:53 Yeah so into the USB plug on a computer,
31:57 you'll plug in a USB device.
31:59 Non we're used to flash drives or mice or keyboards,
32:04 or, you know, camcorders, or hard drives,
32:06 or whatever you want to transfer information.
32:09 So the flash drive being the common thing
32:11 that many people use, it's a little USB stick,
32:15 now we can have them on a paper card
32:17 and not only is this very inexpensive,
32:20 but now I have something tangible
32:22 that I can give anybody
32:24 that can have whatever content that I want on it.
32:27 So, let me just make this comment.
32:33 intelliPaper, is a business that has a secular side to it,
32:38 they're doing business with people like FedEx,
32:41 and in various secular applications,
32:44 but you're also doing something on the--
32:49 What they're trying to do the business module is
32:51 to get the secular to support the ministry side.
32:56 but if I am a business owner,
33:00 say I have my business cards made through you,
33:02 and let's say that I make a widget,
33:07 and it's really a unique widget,
33:09 but I have these business cards made
33:11 that I can fold up hand out, and some body can fold this up,
33:15 plug this little USB into their computer
33:20 and all of a sudden, my entire presentation
33:22 of the widget, a demonstration, audio, video,
33:26 everything is accessible through this little key.
33:32 Intelligent piece of paper.
33:33 It's an intelligent piece of paper.
33:35 Think of it like a catalog, you know, back in the old days
33:39 before computers, you know, you get the Sears catalog.
33:41 You could have your catalog
33:42 if you were a business owner on this.
33:44 That's right.
33:45 Also, now instead of giving someone just a paper card
33:46 with your contact information, you give them a tangible token,
33:51 key to an entire experience
33:53 that can tell them anything you want them to know.
33:56 That's amazing.
33:57 And the good news for the business person
33:58 is in addition to giving that information
34:00 to whoever it is they want to share it with,
34:03 the business person can also know
34:05 when that person connects.
34:06 Whether it's via the USB,
34:08 we actually gave you three options,
34:09 when it comes to communicating.
34:11 Via the USB, via the quick response code,
34:15 so if you want to do it live and interactively in person,
34:17 if they've got a smart phone or a tablet,
34:19 they can scan it immediately
34:21 and begin to have that experience
34:22 while they're there with you
34:24 and that can help you start to share the message,
34:27 perhaps in a little easier, little more effective way.
34:29 And then there is a third option
34:31 we call near-field communications as well.
34:33 Yeah, the radio frequency wireless.
34:35 Oh, things are getting, boy, when the Bible says
34:38 knowledge shall increase, it's amazing.
34:40 So you found out that there was a whole--
34:42 that so now have, how many, 17 patents?
34:46 We've been blessed with 15 patents.
34:47 Issues patents and there's more on the way,
34:49 we're working on a fairly large IP portfolio.
34:53 That is so amazing.
34:54 So now let's take it to the idea of how,
34:59 let me see one of your Great Hopes. Thank you.
35:02 So now you've got some thing that,
35:07 have you every tired to give away a book to somebody
35:09 and they're going, "No, no, no thank you.
35:10 I don't want the book." You know.
35:12 Or a GLOW tract or something,
35:14 "No, no, thank you I don't want a GLOW tract."
35:16 You go up to somebody and tell them,
35:19 "Would you like this?
35:20 This is a book about final days" or whatever,
35:23 and somebody is picking this up and saying,
35:25 "What do you mean this is a book? What?"
35:28 And if they understand
35:29 that all they have to do is to bend this
35:32 and then this little USB drive comes out,
35:35 people will take it just out of curiosity.
35:37 Tell us about the man on, this is so funny,
35:40 on the way down here in the airplane.
35:42 You really want me to tell you that story?
35:43 I do want you to tell that story.
35:45 Alright, so I'm on the--
35:48 Well, first of all, I can give these to anybody.
35:50 I mean, just like I use to be able to give these to anybody,
35:53 I can these to anybody
35:55 and there is a curiosity factor here that is unparalleled.
35:58 So my favorite, you know, because I'm in the business
36:02 is I will sit next to someone and I will,
36:06 you know, be making small talk with them
36:08 and they ask me what I do, and so I say,
36:10 well, I'm involved in making USB drives.
36:13 And I hand them this and they're like USB drives.
36:15 And so I say, yeah, we make them out of paper,
36:17 and I hold it like so and I crack it and fold them,
36:20 and the, they're just incredibly amazed.
36:24 So I'm sitting next to this young fellow
36:26 from Portland, and, you know, he's typical young adult,
36:32 kind of scruffy looking, you know, dressed a little bit.
36:35 Nice enough but he was tired
36:37 and wasn't really interested in making small talk that much.
36:39 And he probably isn't gonna take a book from you, is he?
36:41 No, he is not going to take anything from me,
36:44 in the traditional sense.
36:46 And so we got to talking and I asked,
36:48 you know, he wanted to know what I did
36:50 and so I make paper USB thumb drives.
36:53 He like--
36:54 And so I showed him, just like I did now
36:56 and he grabbed it out of my hand,
36:58 he grabbed it out of my hand and he says,
37:01 "Dude, this is like dope."
37:04 So he...
37:05 He meant that in a good way.
37:07 Yeah, so he took it and--
37:08 He took it and he pulled his wallet out of his pocket
37:11 and, you know, reverently stuffed it in and he's like
37:14 I got to show this to all my friends.
37:15 Yes, now that's incredible.
37:17 And so on here, he's got a kindle version of the book.
37:19 Yeah so no I just gave this young man
37:22 "The Great Controversy."
37:23 Yeah. Is that not amazing?
37:24 And it can be downloaded audio, kindle, a PDF.
37:27 In all the formats that he might be,
37:29 he would be most likely to read it in.
37:31 And in on the context of the times
37:33 in which we live now, given the election cycle
37:36 that's happening in our country right now,
37:38 what could be more relevant than a religious
37:40 and political history of the universe
37:43 and the great controversy between good and evil,
37:45 perhaps as we're seeing some,
37:47 you know, serious decision being made
37:49 for the future of us and our country,
37:51 over the coming year.
37:52 I know that, this is kind of, you know, 3ABN is,
37:55 we're meeting with these gentlemen yesterday,
37:58 'casue we're exploring some ways
37:59 that we might work together
38:00 and they're both members of our "Go" Evangelistic Team,
38:03 so we're looking at
38:05 how we might do something's together.
38:07 But I know it's kind of difficult
38:10 to get this in your mind at first.
38:11 I remember the first time at ASIA,
38:14 number of years ago, when you were first out
38:16 with your first card, it was just like,
38:19 I kept looking and saying, it'll do what?
38:22 We want to show you a little video roll
38:25 that they brought that I think is really cute,
38:27 and it'll just show you how the potential is unlimited.
38:31 You may want to use this for your personal business,
38:34 for your personal ministry, the potential is unlimited
38:38 with how these cards can be used.
38:42 Intellipaper's newest product line is SwivelCard.
38:45 Produced in rural Edwall, Washington State.
38:53 What you can't do with a regular Valentines Day card
38:56 you can do with a SwivelCard.
38:59 A SwivelCard is a smart card, with a chip and QR code
39:03 and wireless technology build-in.
39:05 You can plug it into a USB port,
39:07 scan the QR code, or hold your cell phone to it
39:10 for wireless connection.
39:12 It's been a family business from the start.
39:14 My wife has been very involved
39:15 and my son, Stephen programs chips in the summer.
39:18 We've also always worked to be environmentally friendly.
39:20 We use components like cellulose
39:22 and biodegradable adhesive.
39:24 We also help the community,
39:25 we're the only tech company in Lincoln, County
39:27 and half our crew is local.
39:29 We provide jobs from light manufacturing
39:31 through senior engineering and that's gonna grow.
39:33 SwivelCard helps the individual and the corporation
39:36 both to romance others in a uniquely compelling
39:38 and valuable way.
39:42 You know, if you could just let your imagination run wild,
39:45 I didn't get any sleep last night
39:47 after talking with these gentlemen all day yesterday.
39:50 Thinking about potential of a product like this
39:54 and God has put this in your hands.
39:56 And you've seen miracles at intelliPaper.
40:01 Very similar to, you said that you read
40:03 the Mending Broken People story of 3ABN,
40:06 he said, oh, I so identified with that. Tell us a few.
40:10 Well, so, you know, it's not an easy journey
40:13 to start a company.
40:15 I've never started a company before and so,
40:18 you know, I did the only thing I could do and I'm like
40:20 Lord, if you really want me to do this, you got to help me.
40:24 And one of the things that I've been convicted of
40:28 is that every aspect of the business
40:30 needs to be taken to God at any point of time.
40:32 Amen.
40:33 And so, you know, it's my habit,
40:35 on a daily basis to bring the business
40:37 and all of it's cares and needs to God.
40:40 You know, however complex or mundane that might be.
40:45 And I remember, I mean,
40:46 there's so many miracle stories.
40:48 I keep a journal and there's just dozens and dozens of them,
40:50 but one in particular that I remember is we were...
40:56 gearing, it was a week before payroll
40:59 and, you know, by then, I had a small crew
41:01 of just a few people working, and we didn't have enough money
41:07 for payroll and so, you know, Monday comes along
41:10 and I'm like Lord, what am I suppose to do?
41:12 I'm supposed to pay these people on Friday,
41:13 Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm praying.
41:16 Thursday morning I'm praying still nothing
41:19 and so, I, you know, finish my devotions,
41:22 go down to the shop and, you know, start working.
41:24 It was sort of in the back of my mind,
41:26 wondering, what am I going to do,
41:28 and a friend of mine shows up, just some one just unannounced
41:32 and, you know, of course, he's a friend
41:34 and we started talking and walked back up to my office
41:36 and he sits down in the chair there in my office
41:39 and he pulls something out of his pocket
41:41 and he hands it to me, and that's a check for $25,000.
41:46 It's like, wow,
41:48 and I'm at payroll, needless to say.
41:52 Yes.
41:53 And, you know, that's just one example
41:55 and we have another one that was flood related,
41:59 that was just incredible,
42:01 that I could, I could tell you about.
42:03 We've got some pictures actually.
42:04 Sure.
42:05 So one morning, the weather was acting weird
42:11 right at the end of the winter and I'm,
42:13 you know, one morning I step out of my office
42:15 about noon and we'd had a bunch of snow on the ground
42:18 and that it had rained and whatever
42:20 and melted fairly fast.
42:22 And as I step out of my office to go home for lunch
42:24 and I look at the creek with is just across the road
42:27 and it's almost to the top of the bridge.
42:30 And I'm like, oh, dear, this is gonna,
42:31 this is gonna, this is gonna, flood.
42:33 Not looking good. Not looking good.
42:34 He's out of the garage, okay,
42:36 he's in the manufacturing facility now with the team
42:38 with the business is up and running.
42:40 Prospects have never looked better
42:42 and the water starts rising.
42:44 And the water starts rising.
42:45 So I walk up to the house 'cause just,
42:47 you know, I live just a couple of blocks up
42:48 from this facility where we work
42:50 and I walk up to the house and call back down to the fab,
42:53 I was like, "Guys, get everything up off the floor."
42:56 I said that creek is gonna flood
42:57 and we need everything up off the floor.
42:59 Now I had no idea what it would be
43:01 and so I ate lunch and I went back down
43:03 and as I walk back around the corner,
43:05 the water's coming down the road and an hour--
43:08 This is a matter of an hour.
43:10 This is a matter of 45 minutes or so,
43:12 and an hour later, we in 28 inches of water,
43:15 and there's a picture that they can show.
43:17 Unbelievable.
43:18 Here is a picture of our fab, in 28 inches of water.
43:22 When you say your fab, this is your manufacturing--
43:24 This is the manufacturing facility, yes, that's right.
43:27 Where we make intelliPaper.
43:29 Now this isn't the building we're in now,
43:31 but you can see there,
43:32 this is a shot through one of the windows that--
43:34 Unbelievable.
43:35 We broke out, actually, to go in, you know,
43:37 the water is like a foot higher outside,
43:39 than it shows in the picture.
43:41 The water eventually rose
43:42 to just touching the bottoms of the tables.
43:45 Unbelievable.
43:46 And, but we lost nothing in all of that.
43:49 And so, you know, we cleaned up, we, we,
43:52 you know, moved out
43:54 and so then now we're wondering,
43:55 you know, what ware we gonna do?
43:57 You know, manufacturing is halted,
43:58 we had a job on the line, we had several more orders,
44:01 you know, in the pipeline.
44:03 What does a company do, you just halt it like this.
44:05 So the board met, we prayed about it and we decided,
44:09 you know what, we don't see our way clearly forward,
44:12 but we're gonna move forward in faith.
44:14 And so, you know, we made a decision
44:17 to relocate the business,
44:19 we didn't have the money to do it
44:21 but, you know, we're just gonna step forward in faith
44:23 and God, things came together.
44:25 God's grace.
44:26 There was an architect friend that, you know, came and said,
44:31 "Look, how can I help?"
44:32 There was a contractor that came and says,
44:35 "Look, I'm willing to help."
44:38 And when it was all said and done,
44:40 the move cost us about a $100,000.
44:43 That flood cost us about $100,000 that we didn't have,
44:46 by the way, but not only were we back up
44:50 and running in three and a half weeks...
44:52 Unreal.
44:54 The, you know, one of the guys that was on the projects said
44:57 he'd never seen something like this go together so fast.
44:59 We brought in modular units, and, you know,
45:01 we leveled the piece of land, brought in module units.
45:04 Pulled in new power, did plumbing,
45:06 did all this stuff and three and half weeks later,
45:08 we resumed the job that we had been on
45:11 the morning it flooded.
45:12 That's amazing.
45:13 And by, I think the flood was in February
45:16 of that particular year,
45:17 and by June, we paid bill, completely.
45:21 Praise the Lord.
45:23 That's amazing. That's just, it's incredible.
45:24 You know, I want to give people and opportunity at home,
45:27 and first, we want to put an address out,
45:29 but I just want to kind of review this with you again,
45:32 because, like I said,
45:33 it's so difficult to get this in your mind,
45:36 but if you have a business, or if you have a ministry.
45:39 Let's say that you have life style center, you can take,
45:44 well, you can order through them, these cards
45:47 and whatever information you want available on here,
45:50 video, a demonstration of your product,
45:53 your catalog, your, maybe it's a marketing tool.
45:58 What this is actually is
46:00 as someone takes your business card,
46:03 they bend this up and they insert this little USB drive,
46:07 this cardboard USB drive into their computer,
46:11 it's like this is a key that has, unlocks this vault,
46:16 this cloud based vault of information,
46:20 and it can be downloaded in any--
46:23 of a number of different formats.
46:25 So it's such an amazing tool.
46:27 If your mind can just go crazy with this
46:31 as you think about it.
46:33 Whether you are, if you want to do this,
46:35 I know you have FedEx that has used this.
46:37 You've got a number of commercial--
46:39 Educational institution as well.
46:40 Educational institutions.
46:42 Hospitals have used these tools.
46:45 So if this is something that you want to look into,
46:48 and we want you to know how you can get in touch
46:51 with intelliPaper, or Andrew personally.
46:54 And here's the information.
46:58 To find out how intelliPaper can work for your ministry,
47:01 you can write to them at 2525 East 29th Avenue,
47:05 Suite number 10B dash 388, Spokane, Washington 99223.
47:11 That's 2525 East 29th avenue, Suite number 10B dash 388,
47:17 Spokane, Washington 99223.
47:20 You can call 509-343-9410.
47:24 That's 509-343-9410.
47:28 Or you can visit them online at intelliPaper.info.
47:32 That's intelliPaper.info.
47:43 It is mind boggling, this technology,
47:45 but it is so exciting to know
47:47 that God has put it in your hands,
47:50 Andrew, because--
47:51 Not just because you are a Seventh-day Adventist
47:53 and you've got a corner on the market
47:55 but because your using really, truly,
47:58 Biblical principles in developing your business.
48:01 And we're so grateful
48:02 that not only are you looking at the secular,
48:05 but their business model is to develop the secular,
48:08 so that it can eventually be supporting
48:10 the ministry side of this.
48:12 One of the ways
48:13 that we want to support the ministry side of this
48:15 is by providing evangelistic tools.
48:18 And so this is one of the first ones,
48:20 you know, The Great Hope, as a sharing book.
48:23 I can give these, like I said, away to anybody that,
48:26 you know, many people.
48:28 Especially young people
48:29 and technologically savvy people that,
48:31 you know, are just so jaded with,
48:33 you know, traditional outreach methods,
48:36 but they'll take this and so, you know, we're working,
48:40 exploring ways to distribute this
48:42 and so, you know, get in touch with us.
48:45 I would encourage people to get in touch with us
48:47 and to explore how we can together work
48:51 at distributing the gospel on this new technology.
48:54 Amen. It is just so exciting.
48:56 I think that Scott said a while ago, he said,
48:59 when we were showing the break he said,
49:01 "We've got from that flood
49:03 to flooding the world with this."
49:06 Well, now we have again Johan Sentana, and I just,
49:09 as I said, I appreciate his style on the piano
49:11 and he is going to play for us, "Let all things now living."


Home

Revised 2015-11-19