I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn
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and we welcome you
again to 3ABN today.
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You know, it is--
just exciting things
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happening here at 3ABN
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and we've been
having such a wonderful day,
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I hope that you are
having an even better one.
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And we want to
thank you for your prayers
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and your concern
about this ministry
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and your financial support.
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Thank you so much
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because without you this
ministry would not exist.
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I want to share a
scripture with you
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before I introduce
our special guest today
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and this scripture
defines him completely.
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The scripture is Psalms 66:16
and here's what David wrote.
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"Come and hear,
all you who fear God,
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" who respect God,
who hold Him in all"
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and I will declare what
He has done for my soul."
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And our special guest
today is Jaime Espinal.
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And Jaime is the center director
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for the Centro
Misionero de Salud.
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Did I-- how did I do?
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Yes, you did very good.
I did, go praise the Lord.
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Translate that for us.
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Health missionary center.
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Health missionary center.
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And this is in Galeana?
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Galeana. Galeana, Mexico.
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Nuevo Leon, Mexico.
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Wonderful.
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Jaime, we are so
glad you are here
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because this is your
second or third time to 3ABN?
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Yeah, about the
third or fourth time.
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Oh, third or fourth time.
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Well, I do know that
you've got an exciting testimony
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of what God has
done in your life
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and he is going to be sharing
more than a testimony though.
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He is going to tell you
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how God brought
him out of prison
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into an incredible ministry,
20 years worth of ministry,
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a family ministry
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something that
you want to stay tuned
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if you know anybody
that's thinking about
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going into a family ministry.
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Because we are not only
gonna hear about his ministry
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but about a book
that he has written
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and this book is called
Family Outreach and Evangelism
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and my good friend
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Frank Fournier
and Steven Grabiner
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have both endorsed this book
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and this is a book
that's not just about
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getting it all
together in your family
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but it is a real how to book.
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How to know if you are
ready to go into ministry,
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how to recognize
God's calling on your life,
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how to pick or
choose a location,
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how to organize,
how to get educated,
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how to have income generation
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and it's just an
incredibly helpful book
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that many people want to read.
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But I think the most
important section is the last
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and that's on the spirituality.
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How to stay surrendered to God.
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How to really be
disciple yourself
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so that you can turn around
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and be balanced in your
life and blessing to others.
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But before we begin, we
are going to have a song,
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well, everybody loves music
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and this is by our
own pastor C.A. Murray.
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And many of you know C.A.
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he is the director
of our proclaim channel
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and he is going to sing
"As Water to the Thirsty."
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As water to the thirsty
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As beauty to the eyes
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As strength
that follows weakness
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As truth instead of lies
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As songtime and springtime
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And summertime to be
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So is my Lord My living Lord
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So is my Lord to me
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Like calm in place of clamor
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Like peace that follows pain
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Like meeting after parting
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Like sunshine after rain
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Like moonlight and starlight
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And sunshine on the sea
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So is my Lord My living Lord
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So is my Lord to me
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As sleep that follows fever
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As gold instead of grey
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As freedom after bondage
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As sunshine to the day
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As home to the traveler
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And all He longs to see
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So is my Lord My living Lord
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So is my Lord to me
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Well, that's my
Lord My living Lord
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So is my Lord to me
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And we thank you so much,
C.A., for that beautiful song.
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Well, if you are
joining us just a moment late
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our special guest
today is Jaime Espinal.
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And, Jaime, tell us the
name in English of your,
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of your ministry.
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Health Missionary Center.
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Health Missionary
Center in Galeana, Mexico.
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And in Spanish it is?
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Centro Misionero de Salud.
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Misionero, see
I left off the "O"
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while ago, I knew I did.
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So what we want to do
even though you've been here
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several times before
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let's go back
because this Psalms 66:16
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really is kind of a life
verse for you that, you know,
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you want to tell the
world, declare to the world
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what the Lord has
done for your soul.
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Tell us about your
days-- it's hard for me
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to even look at
you and say these words
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but your days as a drug dealer.
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Yes, well, God is so merciful
and I just want to say that
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because His goodness
and He goes to where we are.
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Yes.
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And I got into the
drug business in Texas
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actually many
years ago and by God's--
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God allowed me to be caught
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so I changed the
route that I was heading to.
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And when you say He
allowed you to be caught
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you actually went to prison.
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How many years?
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Well, I was off for 39 years
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but miraculously it was--
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they dropped the case.
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You know, it was no any
charge or anything whatsoever
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after seven
months being in there
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was dismissed the case.
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Glory to God.
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God really did miracle.
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That's what all I can say.
That is a miracle, 39 years.
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Seven month versus 39
years it's just seven months
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it's just the
number of perfection
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and you met the
Lord in jail, did you.
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And that's the best thing
that ever happened in my life,
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the time I spend there because
I saw miracles, I saw angels,
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I saw-- you know, every
time I was going to sleep
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I as for the boys are
speaking all night long.
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Sometimes I saw a finger
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pointing in some
places of the Bible.
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You see, I was just--
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I didn't believe
of somebody telling me
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what was the truth
before and so I therefore
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I was very
skeptical on hearing somebody.
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So here I was by
myself reading the Bible
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and a lot of doubts comes in
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but God clear
every doubt that I have
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through His word.
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So it was amazing, you
know, to see how God did
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so many things in order
to and get me out of doubts
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and to keep continue guiding
me as I was learning from Him.
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Amen. How old were you then?
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I was 24-years-old.
Twenty four-years-old.
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Now you got out of prison
and you went to live in Florida
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and you made a phone call
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that actually ended
up changing your life,
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tell us about that.
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Yes, I was trying to get
some literature in the Spanish
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and then I just happened
to met somebody and they,
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all the opposite side
of the country, you know,
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I was in Florida
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and this was in
Washington Estate
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where I got to know somebody
who was taking the order
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to get me this literature.
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It just happened to
live in that very same place
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I was calling from in Florida.
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So you call to a ministry
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to get the
literature in Spanish,
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you give him the address
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and the guy on the
other end of the phone says,
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what, I used to
live in that house.
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That's right, he said I
live in that very same house.
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I say, cannot be
and he said well,
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is there Mrs. such and such?
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I say, yes, that's my landlord.
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So well, I used to
live there with her.
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So here he is in
Washington and the reason I said
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that this phone
call changed his life,
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the two of you
became close friends.
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You established a
bond, a relationship.
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Yes, and then later on
I got to know his sister.
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Very well, as a matter of fact.
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Yes and it was a
wonderful blessing
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because that became my wife.
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Yes, amen.
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So you married his
sister and a strong Christian.
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And how did you know that God
was calling you into ministry?
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Well, you know, after the
day that I got out of prison
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I say God, I don't want
to be chased by the devil.
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I want to
follow You all the way.
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And all what I wanted
to do the rest of my life
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is to serve You,
to work for souls.
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And so on but before
I got out I told God,
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God, all I want to
do is work for souls
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and there are souls
in prison, out of prison
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I don't care if
You get me still here
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or get me out all what I
want to do is to work for You.
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How precious.
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And so I know when I got out
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that I was just on
the mindset to follow God,
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to follow His leading.
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So I know He had a
purpose for my life
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by getting me out of
the drug dealing business
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and now, you know--
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Getting the charges dropped.
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Right. All that.
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It's amazing. It's amazing.
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One day I was going to
hold a Bible study in one place
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and it was just
the very same place
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where I used to be
doing all kind of--
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Drug deals.
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Drug deals and all that
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so it's amazing how
God transforms somebody.
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Amen. I just
praise God for that.
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So you married
and did your wife know
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when she married you
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that she was going to
end up in fulltime ministry?
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Yes. She did.
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Yes, God was getting
her ready to, you know,
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and it was wonderful to
know how He did that because,
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you know, when I met her--
before I met her, you know,
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I thought that I
was gonna be like Paul,
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you know, just single.
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Doing it alone.
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Doing it alone but
then when I met her
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I was still was
thinking like that
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but when I hear
her praying then I say,
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boy, that I might change that.
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You know, there
is my something got,
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might have something for
me in so I will not be alone.
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God was whispering in your ear
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that it is not
good for man to be alone
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I've got a helpmate
already prepared for you.
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But it's amazing
because her prayer
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was what got me to
think about the possibility
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of how to open
myself to God's plans.
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Wonderful. Wonderful.
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So you married,
you have four children.
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What three girls and
a boy, is that right?
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Now how did you
end up in Galeana?
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Well, you see this side
there after we got married
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to go into to
do missionary work.
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So we start for
a couple of years
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we were on the road,
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we were in many
countries, Central America,
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I went to Cuba
in Central America
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all the away from Texas,
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Mexico, Guatemala, El
Salvador, Honduras, Belize,
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Costa Rica, Panama.
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We were going back
and forward for years.
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We were--
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Did you go to
Colombia your home country or?
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We never went
there. No. You never went.
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You know, we went until Panama.
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Yeah, almost there
but not quite there.
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Okay.
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And we were just helping people
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teaching them how to
live a healthy lifestyle.
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We were preaching the word,
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we were doing
evangelism with literature.
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You know, we
were printing books,
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we were distributing books,
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we were doing a lot of
things with the literature
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as we were traveling,
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that was the
source of our income
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as we were traveling.
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And we did it for a couple
of years without stopping.
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We didn't have no,
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any place behind where to go to.
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We were just
working for the Lord
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until we were going
by Montemorelos in Mexico
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and as I was doing some deals
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with the union
officers from there
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for some materials
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they invite us
to have some videos,
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to record some videos on health.
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So we had stayed
there for about a week
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and then during that
week one of the union officers
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that I know from before he said,
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Jaime, why don't you
start a training place
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where older
people can be trained
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and to become
missionaries as well.
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And then we ask him but where.
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Then he say well, we
know a place in Galeana.
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And where is Galeana?
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And then they
started explaining to me
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and then later on--
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Where is Galeana?
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It is about two
hours from Montemorelos.
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Okay.
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We are about two hours
southeast from Montemorelos.
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And so we start
praying about it.
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They took us over
there to see the place.
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We didn't like it at all.
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It was the last
place where we wanted to be
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and we were just praying
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and the more we were praying
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the more convicted we were
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that that's where God wants
us to start a family ministry.
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And, you know, after praying
about a month in Montemorelos
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we realized that
God wants us there.
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Now did you have
any children yet?
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Yeah.
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You had, you
already had children?
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Yeah, we had.
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You are on the
road all this time
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and dragging
babies along with you, ah?
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Yeah.
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We had our family
with us and, you know,
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it was-- we stayed--
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after we got married
we stayed in Tennessee
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for sometime too and so...
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Okay. Okay.
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So now you find
yourself getting ready to start
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a family outreach, a
family evangelistic center
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if you will, a
center of influence.
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Tell us-- I want
to take a few minutes
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and let's look at
this incredible ministry
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that God has given them there
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actually for 20-- you
been 20 years there now
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and then you will be
able to appreciate how Jaime,
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God equipped
Jaime to write this book
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on Family
Outreach and Evangelism.
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So you start in a
place that you are saying,
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oh, Lord, this
isn't where we want to be
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but God showing you,
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He changed your mind
and now it has become
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a place of great
beauty to you, hasn't it.
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Yeah.
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And mainly because what
God has done in people's life,
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you know.
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And we see young people
being transformed by His power
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and we see elder people doing--
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knew their
energies to serve the Lord.
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When we see all
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what God has done
there in people's life
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we are just thrilled,
you know, we are amazed,
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we are inspired every moment.
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That's wonderful.
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Okay, we have some pictures.
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This is as I said,
this is the 20th anniversary
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for the Centro
Misionero de Salud.
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Yes. Yes.
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I think your next
picture is of your lovely wife.
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What is her name? Marjorie.
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Marjorie.
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And, Marjorie, you all
make a very lovely couple.
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You look like
almost brother and sister.
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They say when you've been
married to someone long enough
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that you begin to look alike.
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That's right. Oh, sure.
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Now this beautiful
land, this is it, ah?
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Yes.
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We are in the 49 acres
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and we're on the top
mountains of La Sierra Madre.
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And it's just a
lovely place, you know.
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We have some orchid there,
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we have a lot of
food trees, pecan trees.
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And evidently you've
got corn here as well.
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Well, and we grow a lot
garlic and a lot of vegetables,
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a lot of, you know, produce,
you know, all year long.
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Is this something that
you actually teach people
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how to do is how the farming
techniques to get healthy food.
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Okay, and here is
your cooking class.
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Everybody looks like they
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got their little
plastic bonnets on
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and they are ready to get
serious about healthy cooking.
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Right.
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We have students,
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we have a medial
missionary training program
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that takes six
months of the training
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and while they are there
then we teach them cooking.
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You know, you
have hands on training.
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Yes.
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So they really learn
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how to do some
things very quickly
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and very nicely.
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All right.
00:20:02.23\00:20:03.57
And then we got some, oh,
boy, that looks so delicious.
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What kind of bread,
what do you call them?
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It is a whole wheat
bread rolls, they are rolls.
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And raisins?
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Yes, you have
raisins and coconuts
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and a lot of healthy good stuff.
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Okay, and on top of the
six months training course
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you actually have
this health food store.
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Yes.
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This is the health
zone and which consist of
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four different
services under one roof.
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It's a restaurant,
it's a health food store,
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and it has a library
and also like fitness place
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where we do some treatments,
massage and hydrotherapy
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and we, you know,
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advice people how
to get a lifestyle.
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Okay, is this is Galeana?
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Yeah, this is in town.
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This is about seven miles away
from the camp where we live.
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Where you live. Yes.
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That's an-- boy, I've
never heard of all four
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being under one roof but
that makes perfect sense.
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Yes, and we make
it a very sustainable
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because sometimes, you know,
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vegetarian restaurant
and struggles sometimes.
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They go out of
business but when you have
00:21:06.80\00:21:10.20
different attractions to
people they come for one thing
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or for the other.
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They-- and so
you will have people,
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you know, coming in,
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flowing in and they be
blessed by this services
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that you provide them
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and so we call them health zone.
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We have a radio program--
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for 18 years we've been having
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a radio program in the community
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and we educate
them through the radio
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and encourage them to
visit the health zone.
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That is really
fascinating model, really is.
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Now you also hold
health expos, is that correct?
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Yes, and as the part of
training for our students
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we train them how to do
and organize a health expo.
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Besides we go and work
with the different conference
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and unions in Mexico.
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They invite us quite
often to hold a health expo
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and to join with
their evangelistic efforts.
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Oh, that's wonderful.
00:22:03.02\00:22:04.35
In different places in Mexico
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and especially
in the large cities.
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Okay.
00:22:07.12\00:22:08.46
And then you also
train them in massage
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and various things as far as--
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What all do you teach for them?
00:22:12.53\00:22:14.06
Hydrotherapy and we teach them
00:22:14.10\00:22:16.10
principles on
anatomy, physiology
00:22:16.13\00:22:18.00
and how to do
some natural remedies
00:22:18.03\00:22:21.24
and how to cook
healthy and how to do bread,
00:22:21.27\00:22:25.97
how to, you know, bake.
00:22:26.01\00:22:27.71
And we teach them also
how to preach the gospel,
00:22:27.74\00:22:31.65
how to speak in public,
how to give Bible studies,
00:22:31.68\00:22:34.52
how to do evangelist campaigns,
00:22:34.55\00:22:36.28
how to organize them.
00:22:36.32\00:22:37.65
And the students
before they leave,
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before they graduate
they have to have experience
00:22:39.82\00:22:42.72
on evangelistic campaigns
where usually every year
00:22:42.76\00:22:47.13
they see people
and they get baptized
00:22:47.16\00:22:50.47
as result of their first from--
when they first got there.
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Oh, wonderful.
00:22:54.40\00:22:55.74
So they can see the
process when you sow the seed
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and cultivate it
and then the harvest.
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In six months they are
able to see all the process
00:23:01.08\00:23:04.75
and when they live
they live so encouraged
00:23:04.78\00:23:07.45
because they see people
00:23:07.48\00:23:08.82
that gave their
lives to the Lord
00:23:08.85\00:23:10.49
and they were able to see people
00:23:10.52\00:23:12.09
going to the
baptisms waters, you know.
00:23:12.12\00:23:14.02
Amen.
00:23:14.06\00:23:15.39
And also before they graduate
00:23:15.42\00:23:16.76
they need to do one week
health school in the community
00:23:16.79\00:23:20.26
where they teach the community
00:23:20.30\00:23:22.33
how to cook
healthy, how to do massage,
00:23:22.36\00:23:26.53
how to give a health
lecture and also a Bible,
00:23:26.57\00:23:31.97
you know, teaching.
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Bible study, wonderful.
00:23:33.78\00:23:35.11
How does the
community receive you?
00:23:35.14\00:23:36.98
You've been there 20 years so...
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Let me tell you what
God has done because,
00:23:39.75\00:23:41.85
you know, we give
all the credit to God.
00:23:41.88\00:23:44.12
There is so much
respect for what we do in town.
00:23:44.15\00:23:49.02
Even we work very
closely with the hospital,
00:23:49.06\00:23:51.89
the government
hospital, they invite us
00:23:51.93\00:23:53.96
to give lectures
to their employees
00:23:54.00\00:23:56.63
and also they invite
us to give to the patients
00:23:56.67\00:24:00.60
while they are waiting.
00:24:00.64\00:24:02.74
We teach them a
healthy lifestyle
00:24:02.77\00:24:05.51
and they invite us to do that.
00:24:05.54\00:24:07.64
We have a very good relationship
00:24:07.68\00:24:09.68
with the
director of the hospital,
00:24:09.71\00:24:11.38
with the
nutritionist from the hospital
00:24:11.41\00:24:13.78
and with the, you know,
00:24:13.82\00:24:15.98
we used to have a
elementary school in--
00:24:16.02\00:24:19.19
I mean, in our place and
a lot of people from town
00:24:19.22\00:24:21.86
got to know what we were doing,
00:24:21.89\00:24:23.73
what we were all about it
through the elementary school.
00:24:23.76\00:24:28.26
Yes, that's amazing.
00:24:28.30\00:24:30.43
Now you have I think have
about just a couple of pictures
00:24:30.47\00:24:32.87
we want to show before
we move forward from that
00:24:32.90\00:24:35.40
and this
baptism, is this a student
00:24:35.44\00:24:37.61
or is it someone from town?
00:24:37.64\00:24:38.97
No, this was a student.
00:24:39.01\00:24:42.04
He got baptized, you know,
00:24:42.08\00:24:43.55
in the last
generation of students this year
00:24:43.58\00:24:47.68
and they were able to
get 19 people baptized.
00:24:47.72\00:24:50.55
From the students?
00:24:50.59\00:24:51.92
Not from the--
00:24:51.95\00:24:53.29
Oh, from the town.
And few from the students.
00:24:53.32\00:24:55.09
Okay. Few from the students.
00:24:55.12\00:24:56.62
So that man got baptized there.
00:24:56.66\00:25:00.13
It was amazing
because, you know,
00:25:00.16\00:25:01.70
I met him and I was doing
evangelistic campaign myself
00:25:01.73\00:25:05.10
in the south of Mexico
and then I saw him there,
00:25:05.13\00:25:08.17
he was kind of very discouraged
00:25:08.20\00:25:09.84
because he was
born with only one eye.
00:25:09.87\00:25:12.87
And then his
self-esteem was very, very low.
00:25:12.91\00:25:18.01
And I encouraged him
to come along with me
00:25:18.05\00:25:20.28
and he came back with me.
00:25:20.32\00:25:21.65
We flew him, he
make arrangements,
00:25:21.68\00:25:24.65
he arrived-- I
got back home with him
00:25:24.69\00:25:27.82
and encouraged him to
take the training program
00:25:27.86\00:25:30.66
and then he start
taking the training program
00:25:30.69\00:25:33.60
and he start learning
how to speak in public
00:25:33.63\00:25:36.23
and he start
learning how to do some trade
00:25:36.26\00:25:38.57
like laying tile on the
floor and doing some, you know,
00:25:38.60\00:25:43.10
agriculture work and
different skills there
00:25:43.14\00:25:45.91
and he learned
all that, he love it.
00:25:45.94\00:25:48.31
And then he was able
to be on front of public
00:25:48.34\00:25:51.05
but not only that, we were
able to talk with university,
00:25:51.08\00:25:55.58
Montemorelos University
and they got him the eye
00:25:55.62\00:25:59.79
that he was
missing a prosthetic.
00:25:59.82\00:26:02.59
Oh, prosthetic eye. Yes.
00:26:02.62\00:26:04.66
Praise God.
00:26:04.69\00:26:06.03
And it didn't cost us anything.
00:26:06.06\00:26:08.70
Oh, praise the
Lord. Neither to him.
00:26:08.73\00:26:12.10
And then when he got that,
I mean, his life just, I mean,
00:26:12.13\00:26:16.07
then he was preaching
now and he got baptized
00:26:16.10\00:26:19.81
and he is working for the Lord.
00:26:19.84\00:26:21.81
You are gonna see a picture,
I think is the next picture
00:26:21.84\00:26:25.05
with the two eyes.
00:26:25.08\00:26:26.41
Look at him. Yes.
00:26:26.45\00:26:28.15
And so now he is out holding
evangelistic series of his own.
00:26:28.18\00:26:32.15
And that's what we
are all about, Shelley,
00:26:32.19\00:26:34.76
you know, to see people's lives
00:26:34.79\00:26:36.99
be transformed by
God's Holy Spirit.
00:26:37.03\00:26:39.93
And then so, now but
let me your kind of--
00:26:39.96\00:26:44.83
your ministry is similar to that
00:26:44.87\00:26:46.84
of a Wildwood or Eden Valley,
00:26:46.87\00:26:50.31
some place like this Black Hills
00:26:50.34\00:26:52.81
but this is just a family run.
00:26:52.84\00:26:54.81
Yeah, it is in a
smallest scale, you know,
00:26:54.84\00:26:57.05
just my wife and I and--
00:26:57.08\00:26:58.81
That's amazing.
How many students?
00:26:58.85\00:27:00.68
It look like you hit
quite a few students.
00:27:00.72\00:27:02.48
Yeah, we used to, we usually
have 15, 20 students, you now
00:27:02.52\00:27:06.65
and we also have
a lifestyle program
00:27:06.69\00:27:08.82
and we have a guest
that can be in there
00:27:08.86\00:27:10.66
and we usually have,
00:27:10.69\00:27:12.03
you know, four, six
guests that come in, you know,
00:27:12.06\00:27:15.03
to take our lifestyle program.
00:27:15.06\00:27:16.80
So it's just small, is
what we can do as a family.
00:27:16.83\00:27:19.93
That's what we
do. That's wonderful.
00:27:19.97\00:27:21.37
And we train the students
how to open a restaurant.
00:27:21.40\00:27:26.81
We have few students
00:27:26.84\00:27:28.64
they have their own
restaurant in Mexico.
00:27:28.68\00:27:30.41
Praise God.
00:27:30.45\00:27:31.78
Their own bakery, their
own wholesome food business
00:27:31.81\00:27:35.18
and they're doing that
00:27:35.22\00:27:36.55
and they have their own business
00:27:36.58\00:27:37.99
and they are
ministering for the Lord
00:27:38.02\00:27:40.16
and it is wonderful to see
00:27:40.19\00:27:41.96
how they are
blessing them as a family.
00:27:41.99\00:27:44.23
Amen.
00:27:44.26\00:27:45.59
And then you are teaching,
you are giving the health expos
00:27:45.63\00:27:47.96
and then in a village,
00:27:48.00\00:27:49.86
you are connecting
with the village people
00:27:49.90\00:27:52.13
and I shouldn't say
village but the town
00:27:52.17\00:27:54.27
and how-- boy, it was
right on the tip of my tongue
00:27:54.30\00:27:57.87
but whatever that
thought went that's--
00:27:57.91\00:28:00.54
I think that's what
you call a brain freeze.
00:28:00.58\00:28:03.95
So you are member of
ASI, you are member of OCI,
00:28:03.98\00:28:08.65
Outposts Centers International
00:28:08.68\00:28:11.72
and this is something--
let me, that's what it was.
00:28:11.75\00:28:16.79
Is this sustainability,
have you been able?
00:28:16.83\00:28:20.20
You and your wife
had been there 20 years
00:28:20.23\00:28:23.23
you would think
as a family ministry.
00:28:23.26\00:28:25.43
Your children grew up
doing this with you as well
00:28:25.47\00:28:28.34
and they are all
00:28:28.37\00:28:29.70
solidly connected to
the Lord because of it
00:28:29.74\00:28:32.74
but has there ever been times
where you thought financially
00:28:32.77\00:28:36.75
how am I going to do this?
00:28:36.78\00:28:38.11
Oh, sure.
00:28:38.15\00:28:39.48
You know, there have
been many, many, many times
00:28:39.51\00:28:41.68
where we have seen-- you know,
00:28:41.72\00:28:43.35
God miraculously
providing because, you know,
00:28:43.39\00:28:46.65
we work-- is a faith work.
00:28:46.69\00:28:49.12
You know, when we start the work
00:28:49.16\00:28:50.53
it was by faith that we
start this work over there
00:28:50.56\00:28:53.66
and He has been like
that every single day
00:28:53.70\00:28:56.63
and every
single day is a miracle
00:28:56.67\00:28:58.80
because we see God providing
00:28:58.83\00:29:00.64
in so many
different ways, you know.
00:29:00.67\00:29:03.07
There has been times
where we are very, very tight
00:29:03.10\00:29:06.07
and then here we have a group
00:29:06.11\00:29:07.44
they want to come for
our lifestyle program.
00:29:07.48\00:29:09.64
And we have group
that come from the States
00:29:09.68\00:29:12.21
and as well from
different places in Mexico.
00:29:12.25\00:29:14.82
And we also, we are exporting
some of our fruits from Mexico
00:29:14.85\00:29:20.06
to the States.
00:29:20.09\00:29:21.42
Wonderful.
00:29:21.46\00:29:22.79
You know, and we get some
literature from the States
00:29:22.82\00:29:25.36
and fruits to Mexico.
00:29:25.39\00:29:27.33
So we would like the business
00:29:27.36\00:29:30.37
as a part of the
ministry to become--
00:29:30.40\00:29:32.93
But it is nonprofit ministry.
00:29:32.97\00:29:34.30
You've organized as
a 501(c)(3) ministry.
00:29:34.34\00:29:37.17
Right. It's a
nonprofit organization.
00:29:37.21\00:29:39.64
You know, and we are
501(c)(3), because, you know,
00:29:39.67\00:29:43.21
there are sometimes, you
know, we receive donations
00:29:43.24\00:29:45.85
and it really is a
blessing because God,
00:29:45.88\00:29:49.28
you know, make it all happen.
00:29:49.32\00:29:51.45
So has there ever been--
00:29:51.49\00:29:52.82
I know that you are
registered in Hidalgo, Texas.
00:29:52.85\00:29:56.32
So when has there ever
been a time when you think,
00:29:56.36\00:29:59.73
Lord, we don't know
what our next step is
00:29:59.76\00:30:01.93
and you may be
come back to Hidalgo
00:30:01.96\00:30:04.23
and find a little
something in the mail.
00:30:04.27\00:30:07.14
Yes, many times,
Shelley, many times.
00:30:07.17\00:30:10.21
I mean, we go over
there and there is, you know,
00:30:10.24\00:30:13.94
we are just
praying God what is next,
00:30:13.98\00:30:16.98
You have led us this
far, what's next and well,
00:30:17.01\00:30:20.02
we go and we go to the mail
00:30:20.05\00:30:21.52
and here we see
a little envelope
00:30:21.55\00:30:23.49
just with the funds
that we are really--
00:30:23.52\00:30:26.05
The exact isn't it? Yes.
00:30:26.09\00:30:27.89
It's amazing how--
00:30:27.92\00:30:29.26
It's amazing and He
does it over and over.
00:30:29.29\00:30:30.93
Yes, He does.
00:30:30.96\00:30:32.29
So it's amazing how God is
blessing this type of work.
00:30:32.33\00:30:35.86
Well, it's
amazing how He has led you
00:30:35.90\00:30:38.87
and you actually have just been,
00:30:38.90\00:30:41.10
had just come back from Europe,
00:30:41.14\00:30:42.84
you go around and your wife
00:30:42.87\00:30:44.47
go around giving
lectures, don't you?
00:30:44.51\00:30:46.98
on how to do these things
00:30:47.01\00:30:49.38
and he was
encouraged to write a book,
00:30:49.41\00:30:51.78
a how to book and we want him
00:30:51.81\00:30:53.75
talk about this
book for just a moment.
00:30:53.78\00:30:55.88
This is a-- the book is titled
Family Outreach and Evangelism,
00:30:55.92\00:31:01.86
managing family run ministries
and centers of influence.
00:31:01.89\00:31:07.16
And it doesn't
matter how large or small
00:31:07.20\00:31:10.23
you want your
family run business--
00:31:10.27\00:31:12.33
ministry to be.
00:31:12.37\00:31:13.80
You are going to find
some wonderful recommendations.
00:31:13.84\00:31:17.67
I just loved the intro here,
if I can find it-- forget--
00:31:17.71\00:31:22.71
here it is.
00:31:22.74\00:31:24.78
Not the intro but
the one where the forward
00:31:24.81\00:31:27.32
who is written
by Armando Miranda,
00:31:27.35\00:31:29.42
who is the general
vice president of the GC.
00:31:29.45\00:31:33.19
He said, "I had
a wrong impression.
00:31:33.22\00:31:35.99
When I started reading the book,
00:31:36.02\00:31:37.36
family run ministries
00:31:37.39\00:31:38.73
that was written
by my good friend
00:31:38.76\00:31:40.10
and brother in
Christ Jaime Espinal,
00:31:40.13\00:31:42.40
director of CMS.
00:31:42.43\00:31:44.03
I thought it was one more book
00:31:44.07\00:31:45.53
about the family
although that's important
00:31:45.57\00:31:47.64
there's already plenty of books
00:31:47.67\00:31:49.00
about that
subject but I was wrong.
00:31:49.04\00:31:51.84
The manner and approach
that Jaime gives in this book
00:31:51.87\00:31:54.68
is that of a family ministry.
00:31:54.71\00:31:58.18
The involvement of the
family in God's service
00:31:58.21\00:32:02.38
and in His church
00:32:02.42\00:32:03.92
seeking to be the family
God intended for us to be
00:32:03.95\00:32:08.02
and also serving the community
in a special way as Christ did.
00:32:08.06\00:32:13.60
It is a call to the
ministry that God wants
00:32:13.63\00:32:16.73
every church member to develop.
00:32:16.77\00:32:18.97
It is Christ's
method in action."
00:32:19.00\00:32:22.57
So he goes on to say
00:32:22.60\00:32:23.94
how practical and inspirational
00:32:23.97\00:32:27.41
this information is.
00:32:27.44\00:32:29.81
And let's talk about
there are families out there,
00:32:29.84\00:32:35.48
families who are thinking
about going into ministry
00:32:35.52\00:32:38.49
as you and your
beautiful wife did.
00:32:38.52\00:32:41.09
How does a family know
00:32:41.12\00:32:42.79
when they are ready
to go into ministry?
00:32:42.82\00:32:45.29
Well, Shelley,
that's a very good question
00:32:45.33\00:32:48.03
because as you stated, you know,
00:32:48.06\00:32:49.76
we found
families all the Europe.
00:32:49.80\00:32:52.37
They want to get
into fulltime ministry.
00:32:52.40\00:32:55.60
In fact, many of
them they have dreams
00:32:55.64\00:32:59.14
and they were led
to be missionaries,
00:32:59.17\00:33:01.24
fulltime missionaries.
00:33:01.28\00:33:02.61
But somehow that hasn't happen.
00:33:02.64\00:33:05.48
And so one of the
advices we give to the families
00:33:05.51\00:33:11.32
is that when they are
praying and of course, you know,
00:33:11.35\00:33:16.32
and even fasting trying to
see what God has for them to do.
00:33:16.36\00:33:23.06
One good indicator that the--
00:33:23.10\00:33:25.10
So in other version recognize
the calling that God has
00:33:25.13\00:33:27.37
on your life first.
00:33:27.40\00:33:28.90
Yes. Okay.
00:33:28.94\00:33:30.27
You know, but
sometimes in the family
00:33:30.31\00:33:33.27
you might see one of the spouses
00:33:33.31\00:33:36.71
that is perhaps not quite ready.
00:33:36.75\00:33:41.15
Not as gung ho?
00:33:41.18\00:33:43.02
You know, not as
really need to live things
00:33:43.05\00:33:46.02
and get into fulltime ministry
00:33:46.05\00:33:48.69
and it's very
delicate this because,
00:33:48.72\00:33:52.26
you know, we advice
that families go away,
00:33:52.29\00:33:57.27
I mean, when they are
in agreements, you know--
00:33:57.30\00:34:01.84
So in other words
what you are saying is
00:34:01.87\00:34:03.51
one spouse shouldn't insist
on going into fulltime ministry
00:34:03.54\00:34:07.74
dragging the other
spouse kicking and screaming
00:34:07.78\00:34:10.41
into whatever call.
00:34:10.45\00:34:12.71
I think that you be more--
that's a good indicator that--
00:34:12.75\00:34:15.48
They are not ready.
00:34:15.52\00:34:17.55
No ready yet that they might
need to do a lot more praying
00:34:17.59\00:34:20.39
and waiting and
God is doing the work
00:34:20.42\00:34:23.43
not only on the spouses
00:34:23.46\00:34:25.23
but also on the children.
00:34:25.26\00:34:26.80
And so I think-- but you
see, the Holy Spirit usually,
00:34:26.83\00:34:31.60
you know, moves
when there's a couple
00:34:31.63\00:34:33.94
and they want in the direction
00:34:33.97\00:34:36.97
He has a
wonderful way of doing it
00:34:37.01\00:34:39.34
when they are in
agreement, you know,
00:34:39.37\00:34:41.08
so that's a good
indicator, you know.
00:34:41.11\00:34:43.41
And there is
times that as you said
00:34:43.45\00:34:44.98
one spouse may be ready
00:34:45.01\00:34:47.15
and a little in
advance of the other
00:34:47.18\00:34:50.82
but it's usually
because the other there
00:34:50.85\00:34:52.72
is just that one
more hurdle of giving up
00:34:52.75\00:34:54.56
little more of self, a
little more of, you know,
00:34:54.59\00:34:57.96
being ready to-- I
heard a wonderful story,
00:34:57.99\00:35:02.56
actually this was Lanny Wolfe
who told the story of a woman
00:35:02.60\00:35:06.17
who was praying and God
told her to sell her home
00:35:06.20\00:35:10.01
and all of her
belongings, go to Haiti
00:35:10.04\00:35:11.71
and open up an orphanage
00:35:11.74\00:35:13.07
and she says, "You
got the wrong woman."
00:35:13.11\00:35:16.44
But she ended up doing it
00:35:16.48\00:35:18.88
because when God
lays that on your heart
00:35:18.91\00:35:22.28
He never forces you
to do anything as He
00:35:22.32\00:35:25.89
but when He lay something
on your heart it may not be,
00:35:25.92\00:35:28.89
this says with you.
00:35:28.92\00:35:30.26
It wasn't attractive to
you at the very beginning
00:35:30.29\00:35:33.16
but because it's of God
suddenly it becomes something
00:35:33.19\00:35:36.56
that has this
compelling magnetism.
00:35:36.60\00:35:40.40
You want to do it
and that's what amazing.
00:35:40.44\00:35:44.04
But let's say a
family knows, okay,
00:35:44.07\00:35:46.94
God is calling me
to open an orphanage
00:35:46.98\00:35:49.51
or to start a restaurant
00:35:49.54\00:35:52.41
or to start a
center of influence,
00:35:52.45\00:35:55.45
how do they then-- how
would you counsel someone
00:35:55.48\00:35:58.85
to choose a location?
00:35:58.89\00:36:00.82
Well, depending on their,
00:36:00.86\00:36:02.49
the ministry,
what is their focus,
00:36:02.52\00:36:05.16
you know, what
is their ambition,
00:36:05.19\00:36:07.40
what is their
mission that they have
00:36:07.43\00:36:10.17
and there are
some outposts places
00:36:10.20\00:36:13.94
they are very fit
to be in the series
00:36:13.97\00:36:16.60
to where all the people is
like a vegetarian restaurant
00:36:16.64\00:36:19.27
and so forth.
00:36:19.31\00:36:20.94
And but also there are
that who will be more--
00:36:20.98\00:36:24.11
we have the cancelling.
00:36:24.15\00:36:25.48
There would be-- the
idea is out of the series
00:36:25.51\00:36:28.88
where they have
more nature environment
00:36:28.92\00:36:32.15
and they can be
more easily following,
00:36:32.19\00:36:38.76
you know, God's leading
00:36:38.79\00:36:43.23
when they are in
the good environment.
00:36:43.26\00:36:45.63
Right.
00:36:45.67\00:36:47.00
So, so it is
good to be, you know,
00:36:47.04\00:36:49.40
there are families
that they have live
00:36:49.44\00:36:51.11
all their life in the series
00:36:51.14\00:36:53.14
and so it is good for
them to be have as a process,
00:36:53.17\00:36:57.71
you know, not to just jump into
and then find out that they,
00:36:57.75\00:37:02.08
boy, they don't even
know how to, you know.
00:37:02.12\00:37:04.65
How to build a, how to
build a fire in the fireplace.
00:37:04.69\00:37:07.16
Yes.
00:37:07.19\00:37:08.52
I mean, to go
slowly and it's a process
00:37:08.56\00:37:09.89
and also with the family.
00:37:09.92\00:37:11.26
But sometimes the parents
are to say okay, we are ready.
00:37:11.29\00:37:13.93
We are willing to
but their children
00:37:13.96\00:37:18.33
they may be they
are not ready for.
00:37:18.37\00:37:20.44
I mean, you need
to work with them
00:37:20.47\00:37:21.80
so when they come
00:37:21.84\00:37:23.17
there will be an
excitement for them
00:37:23.20\00:37:25.77
not something that is,
00:37:25.81\00:37:28.18
you know, like--
00:37:28.21\00:37:29.91
In family ministry
that's very important
00:37:29.94\00:37:31.61
if you are so you got to think
00:37:31.65\00:37:33.52
consider your
children's education.
00:37:33.55\00:37:34.98
Yes.
00:37:35.02\00:37:36.35
You got to consider
your children's feelings
00:37:36.38\00:37:38.09
and how well you can
minister to your children.
00:37:38.12\00:37:40.42
You surely cannot go
and minister to anyone else
00:37:40.46\00:37:43.26
if you can't
minister to your own family.
00:37:43.29\00:37:45.23
Yes, exactly.
00:37:45.26\00:37:46.59
And sometimes depending
on the age of your children,
00:37:46.63\00:37:49.33
you know.
00:37:49.36\00:37:50.70
Of course, when they are
small you have to work with them
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.27
according to their age
but as they are growing
00:37:53.30\00:37:56.24
and then when you are
dealing with teenager specially
00:37:56.27\00:37:59.37
and you really want to be
very careful and very prayerful
00:37:59.41\00:38:03.11
as to how to approach them
00:38:03.14\00:38:04.81
so they-- so all
this will be part of them
00:38:04.85\00:38:07.45
not that it will be just
something from their parents
00:38:07.48\00:38:10.22
but from the family.
00:38:10.25\00:38:11.59
That they will be involved,
00:38:11.62\00:38:12.95
they will feel that this project
00:38:12.99\00:38:15.06
that involves them as well.
00:38:15.09\00:38:17.33
You know, even though
these family ministries
00:38:17.36\00:38:21.16
are as you said a walk of faith
00:38:21.20\00:38:24.53
we still have to think
about income generation.
00:38:24.57\00:38:27.84
Sure.
00:38:27.87\00:38:29.20
And you know God
always have that, you know,
00:38:29.24\00:38:33.07
the family ministry
is not something new.
00:38:33.11\00:38:36.51
We see Adam and Eve
it was a family ministry.
00:38:36.54\00:38:39.48
Abraham was a family ministry.
00:38:39.51\00:38:41.32
Isaac was a family ministry.
00:38:41.35\00:38:43.69
Jacob was a family
ministry and all these--
00:38:43.72\00:38:46.79
even Moses had
a family ministry,
00:38:46.82\00:38:49.32
his wife, his
brother, and his sister.
00:38:49.36\00:38:52.39
But when we see
Abraham he has a lot of wealth
00:38:52.43\00:38:56.67
and so God wants us to
prayerfully use the skills
00:38:56.70\00:39:02.40
that He has given us to explore
00:39:02.44\00:39:09.21
the income generator
00:39:09.24\00:39:11.05
that we might
have with the skills
00:39:11.08\00:39:13.18
that God already gave in us.
00:39:13.21\00:39:15.42
You know, you
remember when Moses have--
00:39:15.45\00:39:18.89
God called Moses
00:39:18.92\00:39:20.29
and he didn't want to
and He said what is that
00:39:20.32\00:39:23.06
that you have in your hand?
00:39:23.09\00:39:25.03
He had a... Rod.
00:39:25.06\00:39:26.59
A rod.
00:39:26.63\00:39:27.96
You know, sometimes
we have had a skills,
00:39:28.00\00:39:30.97
may be wife is an accountant,
may be husband is plumber,
00:39:31.00\00:39:37.31
electrician, whatever, you know,
00:39:37.34\00:39:40.14
we need to take in consideration
00:39:40.18\00:39:41.88
what God has already given us.
00:39:41.91\00:39:45.15
Many family they think
00:39:45.18\00:39:46.51
that they have
to throw everything
00:39:46.55\00:39:48.68
in order to serve God,
00:39:48.72\00:39:50.25
just to forget about everything.
00:39:50.29\00:39:52.25
And there might
be some occasions
00:39:52.29\00:39:54.22
where that might be the case
00:39:54.26\00:39:56.09
when may be you are
doing something that is not,
00:39:56.12\00:40:00.56
something that God's approves
00:40:00.60\00:40:01.96
or that God has
something better,
00:40:02.00\00:40:04.10
you know, the chance.
00:40:04.13\00:40:05.47
But we have to be very careful
because I have met people
00:40:05.50\00:40:09.94
that they say, "even my
career everything we put it
00:40:09.97\00:40:13.41
like we are gonna
do something there."
00:40:13.44\00:40:15.34
No, but God might have
plans for that that He already
00:40:15.38\00:40:19.61
allowed you to
have in your past.
00:40:19.65\00:40:21.98
So that's very important
to keep in consideration
00:40:22.02\00:40:24.75
as you are looking
for an income generator.
00:40:24.79\00:40:27.39
And then we also need to
look what things they are in,
00:40:27.42\00:40:31.93
what things are
available in there
00:40:31.96\00:40:34.86
after we see what we--
00:40:34.90\00:40:37.10
skills we already have
they got might wanted to use,
00:40:37.13\00:40:40.24
also depend on their
location and the area,
00:40:40.27\00:40:43.77
the needs that they are there.
00:40:43.81\00:40:45.51
I mean, it's
amazing how the Holy Spirit
00:40:45.54\00:40:47.44
kind of give you wisdom
00:40:47.48\00:40:49.61
and determine as to
what to do and how to do.
00:40:49.64\00:40:53.01
As long as you stay surrendered,
00:40:53.05\00:40:54.58
so talk to us for just a
few minutes here about balance,
00:40:54.62\00:40:59.65
about your own--
keeping your own, you know,
00:40:59.69\00:41:02.72
sometimes we can get so
busy doing the Lord's work
00:41:02.76\00:41:05.39
that we actually let the work
00:41:05.43\00:41:07.33
become more important than
our relationship with the Lord
00:41:07.36\00:41:10.07
and then that's when
things are upside down
00:41:10.10\00:41:12.27
and getting ready topple.
00:41:12.30\00:41:13.77
So how do you-- what are some
of the just a couple of tips
00:41:13.80\00:41:18.54
of how to stay in
balance when you are doing this?
00:41:18.57\00:41:21.74
Well, you know, it is
just like in the family
00:41:21.78\00:41:25.35
we can be so busy
that we don't take
00:41:25.38\00:41:27.38
good care of our children
00:41:27.42\00:41:28.82
and that happened
to us in sometimes
00:41:28.85\00:41:31.45
and we realize hey,
00:41:31.49\00:41:33.29
we are-- this is not the lost,
00:41:33.32\00:41:34.76
if we are neglecting our
priority with the children.
00:41:34.79\00:41:39.93
It's the same way
when we are not harming
00:41:39.96\00:41:42.86
special relationship with God.
00:41:42.90\00:41:44.77
If we are not having a
growing relationship with Him,
00:41:44.80\00:41:49.84
because if we are in the
same relationship with 20 years,
00:41:49.87\00:41:54.54
if we have no one
and 30, 40 years more
00:41:54.58\00:41:58.78
about wonderful God,
00:41:58.81\00:42:01.45
awesome God that we serve.
00:42:01.48\00:42:03.39
I mean, we have to be
growing, learning more of Him
00:42:03.42\00:42:06.42
and growing in that
relationship with Him
00:42:06.45\00:42:09.72
that will keep
us alive and going.
00:42:09.76\00:42:12.49
And it's very
important as a couple
00:42:12.53\00:42:15.76
to be brining
these new growing aspects
00:42:15.80\00:42:20.84
of our relationships
out flourished them--
00:42:20.87\00:42:24.27
you know, express them out
and that will encourage one
00:42:24.31\00:42:27.58
to ensure us we are not
in a monotonous lifestyle
00:42:27.61\00:42:33.25
but we are growing.
00:42:33.28\00:42:34.92
And so it's very
important, you know.
00:42:34.95\00:42:36.95
If we are not growing
that something is not right.
00:42:36.99\00:42:41.36
We have to be growing
all the time, all the time.
00:42:41.39\00:42:44.69
And so--
00:42:44.73\00:42:46.06
So does do you and your wife
help each other kind of stay
00:42:46.09\00:42:49.20
in check like, if you notice
may be-- just say for example
00:42:49.23\00:42:54.04
if you noticed that
she wasn't praying as much
00:42:54.07\00:42:57.37
or she wasn't reading or
studying her word as much
00:42:57.41\00:43:00.78
or you see that she
is kind of drifting,
00:43:00.81\00:43:02.64
do you kind of
help pull her back
00:43:02.68\00:43:04.68
and vice versa to
keep each other on track?
00:43:04.71\00:43:07.58
Yes.
00:43:07.62\00:43:08.95
So there is this
sense of accountability?
00:43:08.98\00:43:10.32
Yes.
00:43:10.35\00:43:11.69
In fact, you know, sometime--
every night we pray together.
00:43:11.72\00:43:13.89
You know, we pray
together before we go to bed,
00:43:13.92\00:43:16.06
every night we
have that as a custom.
00:43:16.09\00:43:17.89
It has been such a
blessing, you know,
00:43:17.93\00:43:19.93
to pray together at night time.
00:43:19.96\00:43:22.26
And there are
sometimes that things happens
00:43:22.30\00:43:24.30
and may be she gets
something got her real busy
00:43:24.33\00:43:28.47
early in the morning
00:43:28.50\00:43:29.84
and she has to
take care of some things
00:43:29.87\00:43:31.74
and then I can
remind her, you know,
00:43:31.77\00:43:35.88
because you are ready to
do your time with the Lord,
00:43:35.91\00:43:39.68
I can do this and this for you
00:43:39.71\00:43:41.45
so you can have
the time for the Lord.
00:43:41.48\00:43:43.15
Oh, that's wonderful.
00:43:43.18\00:43:44.52
And so we need to
keep that in our mind
00:43:44.55\00:43:47.36
and also praying
for His children,
00:43:47.39\00:43:49.12
you know, all the time
and listening to His children,
00:43:49.16\00:43:52.06
taking time, you know,
00:43:52.09\00:43:54.50
because we need to
nurture that relationship,
00:43:54.53\00:43:57.60
we need to nurture
our relationship with God
00:43:57.63\00:44:00.37
and with one and other
00:44:00.40\00:44:01.84
so we will be able
to function because,
00:44:01.87\00:44:04.81
you know, we are in a world
00:44:04.84\00:44:06.17
that we've been
attacked every single moment.
00:44:06.21\00:44:09.11
And you can't
minister to others if you--
00:44:09.14\00:44:12.81
if your own-- from an
empty, from an empty cup.
00:44:12.85\00:44:15.75
You got to go before the Lord
get your cup filled everyday.
00:44:15.78\00:44:18.05
Right.
00:44:18.09\00:44:19.42
Well, you know, we want to do,
00:44:19.45\00:44:20.79
I know that there
is some of you at home
00:44:20.82\00:44:22.16
and you actually have
some of your lifestyle guest
00:44:22.19\00:44:24.53
are from United
States, I think so.
00:44:24.56\00:44:26.76
They have to speak
Spanish didn't they?
00:44:26.80\00:44:28.13
No. Not necessary.
00:44:28.16\00:44:29.50
They don't, okay.
00:44:29.53\00:44:31.00
What we want to do is
put Jaime's information up.
00:44:31.03\00:44:35.30
There may be any
number of reasons,
00:44:35.34\00:44:36.97
you may be interested
in being a lifestyle guest,
00:44:37.01\00:44:40.01
you may be interested in
becoming part of the program
00:44:40.04\00:44:42.98
and they don't
have to speak Spanish
00:44:43.01\00:44:44.51
to be in your six month program.
00:44:44.55\00:44:46.98
You might be interested
in having him come to speak
00:44:47.02\00:44:51.85
to a group at your
church or to put on a seminar
00:44:51.89\00:44:56.16
or you might be
interested in getting this book
00:44:56.19\00:44:58.79
Family Outreach and Evangelism
00:44:58.83\00:45:00.93
which you can get
all of this information
00:45:00.96\00:45:03.47
here is Jaime's address roll
00:45:03.50\00:45:05.83
and his email
address and website.
00:45:05.87\00:45:09.50
For more information about
the missionary health center
00:45:12.17\00:45:14.94
you can write to, 116
East Coma Avenue #295,
00:45:14.98\00:45:19.91
Hidalgo, Texas 78557.
00:45:19.95\00:45:23.39
That's 116 East
Coma Avenue #295,
00:45:23.42\00:45:27.72
Hidalgo, Texas 78557.
00:45:27.76\00:45:31.19
You can call 956-373-1830.
00:45:31.23\00:45:35.33
That's 956-373-1830 or
go online at cmsmex.com,
00:45:35.36\00:45:42.67
that's cmsmex.com
00:45:42.70\00:45:45.74
or you can email
him at Jaime@cmsmex.com
00:45:45.77\00:45:52.35
Well, you know, I just
find it so exciting to see
00:45:57.89\00:46:00.09
how God can take a young man
who has gone so far off track,
00:46:00.12\00:46:07.83
just lock him up for a
while and then shine His light
00:46:07.86\00:46:11.60
into your-- into your darkness.
00:46:11.63\00:46:13.97
That's so amazing
how God has taken you
00:46:14.00\00:46:17.71
from that world of
drugs, even dealing drugs
00:46:17.74\00:46:20.38
and now he's
got you serving Him,
00:46:20.41\00:46:23.81
teaching others
how to serve Him.
00:46:23.85\00:46:25.78
Yes. And what a blessing.
00:46:25.81\00:46:27.88
And I didn't want to mention
00:46:27.92\00:46:29.48
this Family
Outreach and Evangelism,
00:46:29.52\00:46:31.89
this book is also available
at Amazon.com and how else.
00:46:31.92\00:46:39.19
And our website.
00:46:39.23\00:46:40.63
And on your website.
00:46:40.66\00:46:42.00
So you can do this at
Amazon.com or on your website.
00:46:42.03\00:46:46.40
And, Jaime, what we are
going to do right now is
00:46:46.43\00:46:49.07
we are gonna have a second song
and then we are gonna come back
00:46:49.10\00:46:52.91
for a few closing comments.
00:46:52.94\00:46:54.98
But right now we
have C.A. Murray with us
00:46:55.01\00:46:57.18
who is going to--
he is just like your
00:46:57.21\00:47:00.62
Psalms said, Psalms 66:16 says,
00:47:00.65\00:47:04.75
"I will declare what the
Lord has done for my soul."
00:47:04.79\00:47:09.39
And C.A. Murray is gonna
sing "I'll Tell the World."
00:47:09.42\00:47:12.26
I'll tell the world,
00:47:28.64\00:47:32.11
that I'm a Christian
00:47:32.15\00:47:35.35
I'm not ashamed,
00:47:35.38\00:47:39.02
His name to bear
00:47:39.05\00:47:42.66
I'll tell the world,
00:47:42.69\00:47:46.29
that I'm a Christian
00:47:46.33\00:47:49.73
I'll take Him with me anywhere
00:47:49.76\00:47:56.87
I'll tell the world,
00:47:56.91\00:48:00.64
how Jesus saved me
00:48:00.68\00:48:04.05
And how He gave me
00:48:04.08\00:48:07.72
a life brand new
00:48:07.75\00:48:12.42
And I know
00:48:12.45\00:48:14.96
that if you trust Him
00:48:14.99\00:48:18.39
That all He gave me,
00:48:18.43\00:48:22.03
He'll give to you
00:48:22.06\00:48:24.93
I'll tell the world,
00:48:29.20\00:48:32.91
that He's my
Savior No other one,
00:48:32.94\00:48:39.78
could love me so My life,
00:48:39.81\00:48:44.99
my all is His forever
00:48:45.02\00:48:50.63
And where He leads me I will go
00:48:50.66\00:48:56.46
I'll tell the world,
00:49:01.77\00:49:05.44
Jesus is coming
00:49:05.47\00:49:08.44
And didn't make me near
00:49:08.48\00:49:12.11
or far far away
00:49:12.15\00:49:15.78
But we go to
learn as if He is coming
00:49:15.82\00:49:23.16
Could be tomorrow or today
00:49:23.19\00:49:29.93
For when He comes,
00:49:29.96\00:49:33.67
and life is over
00:49:33.70\00:49:37.01
For those who love Him
00:49:37.04\00:49:40.71
there's more to be
00:49:40.74\00:49:45.65
Eyes have never seen the wonders
00:49:45.68\00:49:51.85
That He's
preparing, for you and me
00:49:51.89\00:49:57.89
Oh, tell the world,
00:50:02.33\00:50:05.80
that you're a Christian
00:50:05.83\00:50:09.20
Don't be ashamed,
00:50:09.24\00:50:12.94
His name to who bear
00:50:12.97\00:50:16.58
Just tell the world,
00:50:16.61\00:50:20.25
that you're a Christian
00:50:20.28\00:50:23.82
And take Him with you anywhere
00:50:23.85\00:50:29.42
I'll tell the world,
00:50:33.16\00:50:38.40
how Jesus saved me
00:50:38.43\00:50:41.37
And how He gave me
00:50:41.40\00:50:45.14
a life brand new
00:50:45.17\00:50:50.08
And I know
00:50:50.11\00:50:52.48
that if you trust Him
00:50:52.51\00:50:55.88
That all He gave to me,
00:50:55.92\00:50:59.59
He'll give to you
00:50:59.62\00:51:02.39
I'll tell the world,
00:51:07.16\00:51:10.40
that I'm a Christian
00:51:10.43\00:51:13.70
And I'm not ashamed,
00:51:13.74\00:51:17.51
His name to bear
00:51:17.54\00:51:21.14
I'll tell the world,
00:51:21.18\00:51:24.41
that I'm a Christian
00:51:24.45\00:51:28.28
I'll take Him with me anywhere
00:51:28.32\00:51:35.76
I'll take Him with me anywhere
00:51:35.79\00:51:41.66